Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 83 | What the Bible Says About Racism, Phil's First 'LOL' & What He Wants to Tell Gov. Cuomo

Episode Date: May 1, 2020

Phil, Jase, and Al answer a listener question about racists and explain why there's no room for racism among Christians. Phil learns what "LOL" means and notices something disturbing about how Andrew Cuomo describes New Yorkers. Jase shares what he tells parents whose children have died. And Al talks about the great work Samaritan's Purse is doing.  See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1  - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What do you got? What do you got, Dan? You got a letter there. Well, I got a letter. I thought I'd bring it up. This is from Solomon Tom. Solomon, I don't get many letters, dude. I get a lot of letters, dude, but I don't read them.

But someone handed me this one and thought, you know, might ought to look at him. So from old Tom, I've noticed you and your family are good country folks, excluding Willie. Oh, I like this guy. This guy's. Because he's, this is, all he's doing is, is listening to him. Solomon Tom's says, Willie's just a city boy. Low CEO city boy. You are better.

Wait, wait, wait, whoa, what did you say? Low. It says LOLL, L-O-L. What does that mean? Oh, boy. Lowe, then it says CEO Cityboy. Loll is not a word. Lowe is not a word.

It's an acronym. It means laugh out loud. Is that what it means? That's what it means. That's why I've just told this guy that now the audience knows. I don't read many letters, but I'm reading this one. But you didn't laugh out loud. And he's saying, you and I, I sent this to your son, Jace.

You and Sanjay's are my two favorite people. I didn't get it. Well, I didn't get it. Well, I usually don't get it, but I got this one. You're better than him. I know with the probably 1,000-plus emails you probably receive every day, you probably never get this because you're super busy, always doing something outdoors or on the water.

So he sees our lifestyle. He did say, I'm living in an area. This area, I'm not sure, but the counties, the cities are Indiana. He's from Indiana. Oh, I like Indiana. This is for you, Indiana, folks. Some of the greatest people I've met, I've baptized a lot from Indiana. They've come down here.

The cities are Linton, Martinsville, and Luguti, small towns, but very racist towns. I'm employed by a company, Lugati. I've been treated differently because I'm not white. I'm born in Karachi, Pakistan. I got my citizenship when I was young, due to being adopted by two American citizens what would you advise? I think he's dating with a little people who look at him. He's a brown man instead of a white man.

So I just gave him some verse, blessed are you, when you're hated, you're excluded, when you, when you, they reject your name because of me. And I did remind him, Acts 17. I gave him some verses and sent to him. I said, read Acts. Your Act 17 is a good point because the verse says, from one, Man. Now listen to this, Tom's. From one man. This was Paul.

Yep. Yep. Yeah. Speaking to the Greeks. Yeah. Explaining to the Greeks about who God is. And it says from one man, he made every nation of men that they should live on the earth. He determines the time set for them, the exact places that should live. Yeah, the exact places where they should live and the exact time, which shows you that, yeah, there's one race, the human race were created in the image of God. And people immediately go, well, how did he do that? But he did.

I mean, what other, when you start trying to figure out how that happened through the evolutionary process only random, I mean, how did that happen? And why you're there? How did that happen? While you're there, the Apostle Paul said in a statement emphatically, from one man, God made every nation of man. He determined the time set for him, exact places that you live. He did it so they might reach out and seek, seek him and find him, though he's not far from him any one of us. The kicker is the Apostle Paul was talking and look at their culture and what they built. He was talking to the greatest minds in Greece, the Ariopagus.

The Apostle Paul was addressing the brains of Greece. And in the middle of that statement, he starts out, God that live in temples built by hand. I notice y'all have all these gods you're worshiping. I even see one to the unknown God. He said, that's what I'm going to talk to you about. And he gets this diatribe, and in that diatribe, it's good for you, Thomas, because remember, Solomon, Remember Solomon, we're all members of the one race on planet Earth, the human race. My college professors begged to differ.

No way. You're Caucasian. You're a nigroid. You're a mongoloid. All these races. Well, that's what they taught me, the atheists. That's what they taught me. I embraced it and said, well, I put my answer back on the test when they said, yeah, three races.

and I played the game. I've since found out not true. God made us from one man, Adam, and we're all members of the human race, and we are to act like it. But you know, it's interesting, Dad, the academia of the world, they're still going with that.

I know it. They're still trying to keep people separated by race. And it's really interesting. I mean, all that creates is races. The Democratic Party has camped out there on dividing these races, making sure we stay divided. Whatever. And then under the office.

Hospices of bringing us all together, not realizing we all came from Adam. We're just members of the human race. Get over it. That's right. And I think as believers, I mean, to our audience out there, I mean, we want you guys to know, there's no room for racism in being a believer in Christ. I mean, all men and women in Christ are... Think about it. If everyone agreed, we all came from one man and one woman, Adam and Eve.

If they all believe that, I'll just think of the prime. problems that would dissipate just because of that one belief system. Now, we all came from just one Adam and Eve. And they're like, what? They're like, no way. By the way, the guy that wrote you the letter, the cradle of humanity began in his neck of the woods. You are correct.

I mean, not over here. You are correct. As you think of Galatians 327 and 1st Corinthians 12. I thank you for the letter there, Solomon. 1st Corinthians 12 13 there's it seems to come up time and time again when someone is baptized into Jesus Paul would use that that phrase that when you mentioned the Democratic Party which they make a big deal about gender equality and then the dividing the races never stops well what they're pursuing is what 1 Corinthians 12, 13, and Galatians 327 says occurs in Jesus.

It's true equality. That's right. No matter where you're from, what you look like, what you did. It's a wonderful thing. Jenner, how much money you got. I'm like, what you're saying you're for, we have it. All the peoples of the earth brought together as one complete total equality, the head being Jesus. And people say, that's a craziest thing I've ever heard.

I said, if you would try it, it would bring a whole lot of love back and joy and peace and patience and kindness and goodness. Faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. That's what would be the results. If you just bought that. But it's a hard sale and it's hard to figure out why. Well, what they don't get is when Jesus was on the cross, God saw us, everybody. because our sin, you know, Jesus became sin for us, 2 Corinthians 5. And then now he doesn't see us.

He sees Jesus. So no matter – you've been really good your whole life, your spiritual life, of seeing value in people because of that principle. I mean, I even see it around here. Every human being is worth something because Jesus died for all of them. Every single one of them. And they're made in the image of guns. But what I was going to say is Phil, Phil is because people don't realize where Phil lives.

I mean, this is where people come to not be found. And so you got a lot of mischief around you. You got a lot of what they call river rats, what people would call poor white trash. But I've been amazed at how Phil, you know, values each person. Because he knows, you know, I share Jesus with them. They realize they have an identity. And a lot of them are real poor.

and they don't have much going on. You were telling us earlier about one of their kids was named Cricket. I was like, who names their kid, Cricket? Phil said, oh, that's rednecks. I'm like, does he have a brother named Roach? I mean, what's wrong with these people? But I think most people... Cricket's a she, by the way.

Oh, really? Yeah. It's a she. It's a she. Her name is Creak. She's a great woman. She is. She's a mom's hairstylist.

Her whole family. She's mom's hairstylistice. Sure. You let all up to Christ, right? Well, I've worked with them off and on, you know, and we baptized one here about. I married a couple of them. Got in the drunkenness and all his and the son. But I'd shared the gospel with him before, but it has a way of working itself back around.

And so we walked down the river down the other day, and another guy baptized him. But I was there on the premises, you know. And it was a river baptism. About 10 or 15 cars showed up with him. So it was a big event in his life. cut your hair, right? Because cricket is a half. I offered a pay, right? I said, you ought to take some money at Cricket. I'll pay you money to cut my hair. She said, I wouldn't do that, not at all, you know? Ms. Casey, you want some of take this, some of this chicken and spaghetti home with you?

So now we're trading haircuts for food. I mean, that's old school. I'll tell you this. I'm glad I'm part of a church, though, that like, you know, because I've studied with people before and they're, look, I've studied with racists before in this area. I mean, you get far enough. down here, and these people are racist. But you say, what do you do? Well, you share Jesus with them because that principle is what's going to change their heart. When they realize that everybody was made in the image of God, including you.

But some of them that I had studied with, you know, the first time they visit our church, it's a shock because most churches, from what I've been told, are not interracial. You know, our church is. And I remember one guy I was studying with, he, we were. sitting there, you know, because I was thinking, well, this is good. We're singing, you know, and the sermon is good. And he leaned over, and he's like, there's black people in here. And I looked at him, I said, I hadn't noticed. He said, what do you mean? I said, I hadn't noticed what we're, we're all in Jesus. We're believers. And I said, some of my best friends have darker

skin that I do. I said, it's not something I notice. You're noticing it because you don't understand how we all got here. Once you understand that and who Jesus is, we're all on the cross with Jesus. Have you all ever noticed that you take a little text like reach out to the poor? The poor will always be with you. Reach out to them and share with them and help them. That's what he said. Now look, they will come up with the human race. 10,000 reasons why you shouldn't reach out to the poor in the down tribe and you give them food cards and you give a little cash to this one you get this one out of jail and you work with this one because he's in the she's in the rehab you said why would you do that and a lot of people they'll come up with reasons why you shouldn't help the poor they'll say

they're ripping you off they're not they're going to go down there and get drunk on the money you gave them they're going to go down there they're just taking advantage of it they'll give you 10,000 reasons why you shouldn't reach out to the poor which is amazing and you're like Jesus said, reach out to them. That's right. You said, well, you know, some of them going to slick you, you said, of course. And it doesn't matter what color they are. No.

You said, well, well, two weeks ago, one of them slick $200 out of you told you one thing and did something else. I'm like, it happens. Oh, wait. I've had it happen 100. So they give you reasons why you should never start helping the poor. And once you start helping them, everyone that does you wrong and rips you off for $100 or $500 or $500. $500 or $5,000.

I've helped people get into business the whole thing. Then they get back to get drunk again. Somebody said, well, you mean, you just sucked out that much money and you got ripped off field. And you're going to help another one? You say, yeah, just keep that. And he also said you'll always have them with you too,

meaning that there's always going to be poverty. That's right. There's all be people that made mistakes. And that's why he said in him is bigger than that anyway. It doesn't matter. I mean, we're trying to help people along the way, but people want to get into systemic. That's the big word now.

I think the church, the kingdom of God, made a critical mistake, an error in judgment when they said, we'll let the government take care of that. Oh, that's right. That's the problem. You say you shouldn't think like that. You are to participate in helping the poor and tell others to do the same. It's our responsibility. They are.

We love them. They're human beings. I don't care where they came from or color they are. Just reach out to them and you help them and you move on. You keep helping them. So let's, let's take a quick break. Tough concept. Let's take quick break in a little.

So, so I got my first mass, Jays. I haven't, I'd just been kind of avoiding people during the quarantine and the pandemic. So I had not got a mask. This is one of the good ones, the N95. And the reason I got it was because Samaritan's purse is here locally. They're staged on our parking lot at our church because, yeah, we had tornadoes. ripped through here. I went to the tornado zone yesterday.

Yeah, well, I did too. That's why I got a mask. Well, I didn't see you. Well, I went to another one. They got them all over town. But I did a video for them, too. Did you do anything? No, I just wanted to go look.

Oh, you just went to look. I went with them. Yeah, I went on the Monroe side. Yeah, we were in the south of the river. It's amazing. When you see a tornado, what happens, I mean, there, there were some cars that look just like they had. gone through a you know these machines you know they smash them that's what they

look like yeah I mean they they they look eerily similar but you could see how far down the tornado hit because it snapped every tree off at the same that's right place I mean just like like toothpicks and it was some of the oldest trees you know in Monroe or West Monroe so we had a lot of damage here thankfully no fatalities even though the storm and the and the tornadoes that came through here you know Oh, once they left here and went across other states, the 36 people lost their lives. This is some bad dude. Mississippi guys.

Yeah, we saw some. It's like when I pulled up, there was a certain smell about it because, you know, there's just things are out of place, I guess. But, you know, from oil or whatever. Gas. Cars. But it just, it looks like a movie set. Yeah, like a war zone. You know, just because everything's fine.

And all of a sudden, there's a quarter mile swath. And you just look off into the distance. And it just, I'm. mean destruction. All the roofs gone. And that was in a real poor community. But, I mean, there was a lot of people. So I wanted to mention to our audience, because there's a lot of folks out there that like

to volunteer and these guys are always looking for it. Samaritan's Purse is wonderful. And, of course, we're good friends with the Graham family that started this. The idea was, is we'll help people, like you were saying, in a tough time and then try to, you know, meet their spiritual needs. And there, I want to say, Al, I mean, that. They, what was the last time they came? They came in 16.

We had the floods here. The flood. They were awesome. Yeah, they anchored at our church both times that they've been in our community. I mean, we didn't plan on giving a plug for them, but I'm just, I'm plugging them. I saw a commercial the other night that they were, you know. When I saw, they've been in New York with a pandemic and all that. So I wanted to mention.

They built the hospital there to take people who are sick out there. What if? Central Park. Is that where they did it? Central Park. Central Park. and they even got badmouthed about that. I'm thinking, why would you bad mouth somebody who just built you a hospital with doctors and nurses?

Because you talked about it earlier. It's divisive people. They want to talk about what do you believe about the Bible says about this. Instead of we got all these sick people, let's just help them. It's that, like Jason was saying, you've got to get that bigger view of trying to help people. At that moment, it's not the time to debate our views on homosexuality or anything else. We're trying to help people. Well, right.

And you help everybody. They were helping everybody. Which goes to what Phil brought up. You're not, you know, the community I was in yesterday with that tornado. I mean, it was one of the lowest income areas that we have. They need some help. And I guarantee you, if you wait on the government, they're going to die. It just is not a high priority.

But I was so impressed at how many people were there with chainsaws and a bottle of water. And because we're in the coronavirus era, too. I mean, we're going to stay six feet apart unless you're helping someone who just lost their house with a tornado and they're walking down the road saying, and 300 families had to be sheltered. And so now we can't put them in one shelter. So if you want to check it out to find out if you want to see if you want to volunteer for these guys, it's Samaritansperse.org is their website. And they'll tell you where they're located.

What they do is they bring in some volunteers, their leadership team, but then they train your local volunteers on how to go out and help. So our church has been blessed both times. Franklin Graham has done a great job with that. Still continues to do so. They're wonderful people. So I want to mention one more thing before you get into our text. By the way, before you do it. So Solomon, Luke 6, 22, and 23, Acts 17, 24 through 28.

We read that. Matthew 543 through 48 about love. Matthew 22, 37 through 40. Read that, my man. and it'd make you feel better about your situation. Just suck it up and move forward and forgive them and just do good to them. Be good. So time is ticking on something we've been talking about.

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So they don't agree with something you say. Surely people wouldn't take away some of the things I've said in my life. They would. They would. So anyway, Blaze TV, the good thing is they back, I mean, you can always go to Blaze TV and watch everything that you're seeing from the podcast. We're going to show everything. I love those guys for that. They're back in our place, so to speak.

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quarantine, which is pretty good. So we're in the second part of, well, we're at the latter part of John 4 after, you know, this woman in Samaria became a voice for Jesus. If he can use her, he can use us, he can use anybody. And then I think it's fitting for our condition right now, looking at it big picture. When Jesus left, he goes back to Galilee. and in verse 46 of chapter 4 it says once more he visited cana and galilee where he had turned the water into wine and there was a certain royal official whose son lay sick at copernum when this man heard that jesus had arrived in galilee from judea he went to him and begged him to come and heal his son

who was close to death and jesus says this i don't think this was a positive statement we can debate it unless you people see miraculous signs and wonders Jesus told them you will never believe I mean am I wrong to sense a little frustration I think he's not I think that is definitely he's not happy which I've said many times you if in life especially in the religious world a lot of people are searching for the miraculous and they miss the miracle worker if you're in good shape

if you have a good relationship with the one who can do miracles, i.e. Jesus, why are you looking for the miracles? You have him. Jesus fried the fig tree. I always go back to this. And when the Pharisees and teachers of the law, the most religious people on the face of the earth, saw what happened to the fig tree overnight. They woke up the next morning. They said, whoa, the thing would just shrivel up. and gone. Instead of saying, I'm going to volunteer to be with you from now on. That did it for me. You just touched the thing and you fried it. Instead of that, they said, who gave you the authority to do this? You see the same thing in our redneck world? Oh, look, you can do something amazing. And in our redneck world, whatever it is, they're like, do it again. I'll be. You're just,

but you can't do that again. You see what I mean? That kind of reminds me of what people do. Do another one. They're like, oh, the Lord gave me a miracle, and they're like, do another one. What is that good enough? What is the point of the miracle? Even when they, in spite of all the miracles Jesus did, they still did not believe in him.

That's right. Which is kind of a recurring theme. Let's take a break. Well, before I read the rest of the story, you know, Hebrews too is my go-to. for the purpose of these miracles and signs and wonders, it says, how shall we escape, this is Hebrews 2, 3,

if we ignore such a great salvation, which we know from Acts 412, salvation is found in no one else but Jesus. He's the one that saves us. He's the miracle worker. This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him. God also testified to it by science.

wonders and various miracles and gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. Finish your where you started when he said, unless you people see miraculous signs. Right. Go on with that guy. So that's where I was getting back to. Yeah. So he said, unless you people see miraculous signs and wonders, you'll never believe. The royal official said, sir, come down before my child dies. Jesus replied. you may go, your son will live. So evidently, and you've got to realize Jesus knows.

He didn't even go see him. He didn't even go. I love this. I just absolutely love this miracle. Now, this is a miracle. This is not, a lot of people have God working in their life. When we pray and God heals them, because we believe that, that happened. But people say, well, it's a miracle.

Well, no, it was God working in our life. It was supernatural. A miracle. is this. You just say he's healed, and he's healed on the spot from however many yards or miles away. Okay, well, how did that happen?

He has control of atoms and molecules. Now, here we are. The whole world is in full-blown panic. And rightfully so, to some degree, over a virus. Yep. I know if I don't read anything else out of this, Bible that Jesus Christ has the power over the atoms and the molecules that is causing the problem. Would you agree?

Correct. If you can heal someone from that far away, so you say, well, how come he just doesn't, will there be people who love Jesus who die of the coronavirus? Yes. Well, what happened? because that's what that's what people who don't believe in Jesus that's what they point out they're like well what what happened because that situation having healing in that situation was not bigger than their relationship that's an eternal relationship with Jesus they they're

not dying that's correct they're they're living they're with Jesus they're in Jesus they'll be back however you want to say it So that's why these things happen. So then in verse 50 it says, the man took Jesus at his word. I think that's the key phrase of the whole story. Because you would think, well, don't you have to come do something? Don't you have to do a seance? You have to see.

You have to put your hands on them. But Jesus said, you may go, your son will live. I just think about people throughout life who have a kid, you know, maybe dying from cancer or whatever, and they're trying to do anything and everything to get them healed. It would just be very difficult with somebody in that situation to meet somebody who supposedly has some kind of power, and they just in passing say, they'll be okay, and they'll say, I'm going to take you out your word at that. Most people would say, well, no, I won't. you down here, you know, get in your donkey and come down here and let's assess the situation.

But if we could just take that out of, the man took Jesus at his word and departed. While he was still on the way his service met him with the news, that his boy, he was levy. When he inquired as to the time, so he had to run a little investigation, which is okay, because we doubt. He took him out his word, but he was like, no, what time did he start functioning? Because that's what we do, right? His fever left him yesterday at, he said, fever left him yesterday at the seventh hour.

Then the father realized this was the exact time at which Jesus had said to him, your son will live. So he, uh-oh, and his whole house believed. including the kid that survived. This was the second miraculous sign. Here's an interesting little offshoot to that. I was listening to Governor Cuomo, the New York governor.

And he listed four qualities about New Yorkers. And I wrote them down right quick. He said New Yorkers are frustrated. They are anxious. They are scared, and, you know, he has a way of delivery, and he was really stressing each point. My New Yorkers, I'm looking after, I'm the governor of New York, and I've just observed. But that's three. Yeah, I've observed, yeah, I get to it.

I've observed my people here. They are frustrated, they are anxious, they are scared, and they are angry. Well, I jotted that down right quick, and I said, that's not saying too much. that's an understatement for people who are undergoing a pandemic which can kill you. Yeah, that's not a positive. No, he said, here's what I've noticed. They're frustrated, their anxious, they're scared, they're angry. Well, as soon as he said that, I thought to myself, I said,

but what about the ones, though, who have their faith in Jesus, and they understand that the righteous, as the psalmist said, the righteous even wins even at death. Death won't separate you from the love of God. What about those? But he just conveniently had missed the point that, look, it's a pandemic, it will kill people, people get sick. Your best insurance policy, I don't care what anybody says,

your best insurance policy is that when these things, things come by and they have come by and they've come by and they've come by and by by and by now we ought to say you know we might ought to get used to these pandemics from time to time because they seem to show up the entire time I've lived on planet earth when I'm 74 years old almost so you look at that owl and you say the only the only peaceful way of looking at that you say what about the ones who are still have their faith and they still are helping each other and they're reasonably joyful in spite of it all and they're still at peace with God and each other and they're

they're patient, they're kind, they're faithful, they're gentle, they're exercising self-control in spite it all. I just wanted to, I said, I wish I could just talk to them and say, man, it's not all New Yorkers. A lot of people. The people of faith, you'll be surprised on how they're taking this. Well, and you're right. And it's interesting because from my observation of what few times I've been around town, when I see people and observe their behavior and they're, you know, getting some groceries

or whatever, you know, how I'm interacting with them, they're just what you said. They're peaceful. They're patient. They're very kind to each other. And I've noticed a lot of generosity to like people, you know, tipping bigger because they're delivering food to... In fact, I've seen more of it during the pandemic than I did the last 40 years. My observations have been very positive about people's reaction. I'm not saying that everybody... No, I mean, I think he's right. There is something. I think James says something

about this when he says, if any of you should lack wisdom, he should ask God, he gives generously it all without finding fault. Because there is a certain amount of wondering what to do and how to make wise decisions and throughout this whole process. You know, later on he said, Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial. This is verse 12 because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life. But then he gets to about chapter three,

and he breaks that wisdom down into two categories. You know, in verse 13 through 16, he says wisdom that is filled with bitter envy and selfish ambition and boastful things, that wisdom does not come from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, and of the devil. And where you find envy, selfish ambition, there you find disorder in every evil practice. Then he has the other category, which is the wisdom that comes from heaven, which is my point, if you're in any kind of trial, it is possible to have these qualities when you're in Jesus. And he lists them.

It's pure. It's peace-loving. It's considerate. It's submissive. It's full of mercy. There's good fruit. It's impartial and it's sincere. Now hold your point right there.

Hang on. Hang on, hang on. Let's take a quick break. And Jace, after you listed those, wouldn't it have been something that if the governor of New York had said,

I've watched my people and instead of him saying, and this is what he said, they are frustrated, anxious, scared, and angry. wouldn't it have been something if he had said, you know, I've looked at my people, and he had listed what you just said.

Yeah. Well, because think about the health care workers. They were what? They were pure and what else was? Yeah, I was going to say them again, because think about the health workers and those people who, and I think they said 80 or 90,

members of the police force had died from the coronavirus from helping people. But look, pure, peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy, good fruit, which just the results.

But I like these next two. Impartial. Yep. You know, because people that are coming in, though, who's thought is it? Is it the president's?

And the health care workers, think about it though. Whoever comes in that door, they're helping. Yeah. They're putting their life on the lot. They don't care where are you from,

what color you are. That's right. And sincere. So I think there's a lot of people who step up with godly qualities, but if you want to make the world a better place and your community, a better place, and your house a better place, if you have those qualities rather than selfish ambition, bitter envy, and boastful sayings, you're going to be way better off. I mean, it's hard to put those in the practice.

I was thinking, Governor, I was thinking, Governor, I just wish you had been able to say, I viewed my people during this pandemic and I wish they were like and I wish they had said but I've noticed something and I wish he had listed the quality just think about national television how that would have affected the nation instead of what he said frustrated anxious scared and angry people say what in the world you say which is true there some of them were like that but sure most are make a blankish david and his in his defense it is a crisis situation and he keeps coming out there talking and he hadn't been within six feet of anybody who's telling him, why not be a little more positive. You know what I mean? Because people are dying and you're not taking that lightly and it

makes you angry, which is, but, you know, that's why it just struck me. We were in a sad state of affairs. That's right. Well, when you don't have Jesus, when you don't have that miracle worker and you don't have the assurance, well, what else is there to do besides be frustrated and angry and anxious? You are correct, my man. Well, and I think that's the difference in. of the group think mentality of looking at a painting New York with such a broad brush, like you described. But this was their own governor talking. Well, I think that's the back to the story.

I think that's the idea of the guy. Like, you know, Jesus is obviously, I think Jay's tapped into it. There's a frustration there. He's right at the beginning point of his ministry to try to convince him he's the son of God. And constantly it's, you know, who gives you authority? Who do you think you are? We need more miracles. You know, and he had only done the one thing with the water.

to why. So that's a pretty frustrating answer. He gives back to this guy who was really just longing for the health of his child. So when the guy comes back and says, please, just come down before my child dies. I mean, I think that touched Jesus in the moment that it was like he saw right then. This guy, you know, has the potential as an individual. And I think that's the difference. It's always about returning to having a relationship with Christ because then you don't have to be fearful and angry. and we're surrounded ladies and gentlemen with a situation no different than two thousand years ago jews demand miraculous signs and they really did and Greeks look for wisdom but we preach Christ and him crucified raised from the dead so you look at it you say you know you look at it things have

not changed now now we have the experts all the bringing all the the bringing all the the wise together and we'll make the final call on the way you live your life and how you want you ought to believe we'll take care of everything these gentiles they're into wisdom big time out and and kind of a nanny state mentality too let's take one last break so when you look at this and you're seeing i think to jays's point is that jesus never said he came here to cure all diseases. He didn't come here to take away everybody's pain. He didn't come here to save everybody's children. I mean, we read these stories in the book of John. The point of why he said he came here is so that you would know he came here to save your soul and so you could have eternal life and not be

bound by sin. And so all these stories we tell when they're linked to where it's a miracle, a healing, something else, that's where it gets kind of murky for people. Because this is when you get these things saying, well, how many times have you gone to church service and And the guy gets up and is like, you're ready for a miracle. You know, everybody goes crazy. And I want to say, Jesus is better than a miracle.

We have it. It's better. That's right. I mean, am I wrong with it? No, you're right. You're right. I mean, look, I want to say this. If God...

The parents, all the parents out there that have lost their children early and they say, why would God do this? They just have to stop a minute and say, wait a minute. I'm going to be reunited with that child. That child is not dead. His body's asleep, but his soul and spirit or her soul and spirit are alive. You'll see them again.

Just calm down. Let God work. Yeah, that's where I came up with a, I didn't read this out of a book, but we've spent so many time in hospital rooms and kids that have died. And it's just tough situations. and we found ourselves in hundreds of those. And so you don't know what to say. And people, when they're in distress and they're upset,

they ask you very difficult questions because they're looking for answers. And so, you know, one thing I don't know, maybe the Lord put this on my heart or I don't know where I came up with it, but I remember having the conversations of there are cycles in life where we always look at people has lost or saved. But there's another category that we don't address, and I labeled it safe. You know, a kid is safe. That's right.

They don't understand the consequences of sin, and that's why I know we're all created in the image of God. Now, I know there's other religions that teach, you know, you're born into sin, but I just read Galatians 519 where it says the acts of the sin from nature are obvious, and I go down that list, and when I look at a one-day-old baby, I'm thinking, that's not obvious. They're not doing any of those things. And I get where the concept comes from. But you have safe, and you have people that are lost when they get old enough to turn.

And there's no doubt about that. And God, you know, it's like he doesn't know. You're never going to outwit God. And then you have saved. you know, the saved and the safe, they're good. And so in an effort to try to bring some people some comfort, I've noticed that really had a positive impact on people because they're like, I don't know if just the word safe.

I'm like, trust me, they are safe. I'm not sure what's going on, but I know it's safe. That's right. And it seems to bring people some joy. Yeah, well, I mean, Paul said in Roman 7. I mean, once, you know, I was alive apart from law and then sin sprung forward into my life. And then it's – That's a really good verse.

There's obviously a time from. I think it's Roman 7, 9. It's a hard verse for people to wrap there. I've used it in discussions. Where there is no sin, where there is no law, sin is dead. So you don't understand. But he said once I was alive apart from law, well, how could you be alive apart from law? That's right.

You didn't know what the law said. You were safe. You were safe. You weren't held responsible for breaking the law. Yep. But having said all that, I will say this. If God wants to do a miracle, who am I to say, no? You know?

So, but all I was saying is the semantics of it. I believe God works supernaturally and providentially in life every day, every second. There's, he's working. He's pursuing. what some people call a miracle is a kind of a different angle of which God works. And I'm sitting in the context of miracles, and this is a good example. Jesus was frustrated about that question, about the idea of you just wanting a miracle rather than recognizing him as the son of God.

What is the greater thrust in his mind? you pick it up as you read over and over. He's like, yeah, you're going to sit in John 6th. Remember when he fed him and they're following him around? He's like, you're not following me, even because of the miracle. You're following me because that fish was good in the bread. You want some more for bread fish. You got to remember at the end of it all, and it didn't stop there.

When it came down to three days after they killed him and they look up and he's standing there, it just passed, we remember it. Easter Sunday, the resurrection. And you're like, good night. That's him saying, so you won't miss it, I am the miracle. Right. Yeah. They just kill me and I'm standing here.

Well, I get frustrated with people who attack our faith, people that don't believe in Jesus. And they're like, well, the only reason you believe in all this stuff is because you need a crutch to help you get over being angry and anxious. And so they tend to think it's just something that we came up with from a very, tale book to help us overcome our fear and anger. But what I've noticed is, is when a crisis happens, you can justify how I'm acting, however you want.

They're like, well, you've come up with a Bible story that's helping you get through. But I've just noticed they're way more in panic mode than I am. What they forget is when the jet is flying along at 20,000 feet and they blow both engines and they're gone. And now we're headed straight down to the earth. trust me when I tell you, everybody gets religious at that point. Yeah. Well, I've been on one of those.

Everybody got religious. When the jet is going toward the ground, and you're saying, I just saw the wings get blown off his thing for whatever reason. Everybody gets, you know what they say? God. Help me. Help us. All we're saying is, why don't you do it on the front end and be prepared when the day of death comes? Because we all die, Jason.

It's just a question of wing. Well, I'm back to your original thing. Then that keeps you from being fearful. and angry and bitter and frustrated. That's right. So just to give a little preview as we wrap up today. So we talked about water to wine and then healing this guy's son. In both cases, Jesus, these are the first two miracles according to John.

John basically zeroes in on seven miracles, seven signs he calls them. And those are the first two. Both of those, Jesus showed the power of God by just speaking things or even in this case, thinking things and then they happen. I mean, you know, what was, how many gallons was it, 180 gallons of water turned into really, really good wine. That was the first one. And look, and these first two are kind of under the radar, like not many people knew

what happened. In this case, the only person that knows about, in terms of the context here, is the guy and the guy's servants and the kid. We don't see anybody else really knowing what happened. No. But it should move you that. The first one just seems randomly weird. I mean, he didn't need a big crowd or watch this or no.

So that was what makes it even more believable to me is the idea he had the power to do it. I love it because it's like the first one made the religious people mad because here's Jesus had a party making wine. And then this one, he helps a kid. Right. I mean, I'm like, how do you not like this? And he kind of choose the guy out first. Like, oh, here we go again. You got to have a sign.

So the next time we get back into John 5 when we come back to this content, is really kind of the first one he does on a bigger scale. And it's a really cool one. And that's a guy at a pool. So we'll talk about him next time. But I want to kind of set you up for that. And then we'll talk about the rest of the signs. But remember, Jay started it off.

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