Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 842 | Phil’s Theory on Changing the World for the Better & the Two Hours Jase Will Never Get Back

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

Jase spends an evening hoping to see his niece and nephew on TV, and Phil emphasizes a way of life that could impact the entire world for the better. Al and Jase recall their childhood dependence on processed meats, though it all seems to be coming full circle in their later years. The guys review how the book of Acts fits into the greater arc of the gospel, and Jase makes a point connecting the tower of Babel in Genesis to the pouring out of the Holy Spirit in Acts. Plus, the guys explain what it’s like to be intoxicated by the Holy Spirit.  In this episode: Acts 1, verses 12-26; Genesis 11, verses 4-9; Ephesians 5, verses 15-20 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Still looking for Zach. He's off somewhere. I actually talked to Zach this morning. So I was going to send out an APB all points bulletin because I was afraid the man might have been kidnapped. I wasn't sure what happened. No, we felt bad because he said with me, tried to like... His daughter, Lela, made a round.

run at the American Idol show. Yep. And so she had sent Missy, my wife, a text saying when to watch, you know, American Idol. And we haven't watched American Idol since it was like season three. Yeah. Because when it first started, it kind of hooked me in because you had all these long lines and you had people saying, I'm going to be a star. And what made it funny is most of the people that came and tried out.

Couldn't see. Couldn't sing. So, ha-ha. Then you voted it. You know, the idea of it was you're going to vote for the next star. So I took a vacation as in 19 seasons later. They're in season 22. The show is nothing like it was when I watched it.

Now they don't have the long lines and all that. They go find people who have a following or somebody they've seen and they invite them. Yeah. It's kind of that kind of deal. I don't think they say that, but that's the gist ever. And now, am I, correct me if I'm wrong, because I haven't seen it in 22 years because I've never watched it. But don't, isn't our old pal, the Buck Commander pal, Luke Bryan is someone?

Luke Brian's on it. He's one of the judges. Yeah, Lionel Richie and Katie Perry. Now, before you say, well, what are you doing, promoting the show? Let me just give you this caveat because I'll watch two hours of this show and my niece never showed up. And that's two hours of my life that I will never get back. They're gone, Jay's.

Whatever you watch, that time is not coming back. They did end the show with one story that was really good. And the song she sang was, there was Jesus. So I thought, you know what? There's hope for America. That was outstanding. So. But now you're going to have to watch another two hours to catch.

Well, I said, hey, babe. Tape it. Tape it, let me know. Then I said, this is, this is our family. How about send a text to Jill who they're, you know, they're, they're friends. I mean, we're family, but they're like married into family. Right. And I said, which is Zach's wife?

I was like, see what the deal is. So it started. Unlike you, I checked with Melissa, who said the first two or three episodes. I said, I'll tell you what, then I'm going to record them and somebody can watch it. And then I'll just zoom in there when something. happened so yeah so i so she sent a text was like you know what happened he's like yeah it's somewhere in the first two or three episodes we got that memo and so then i said well hey ask her where is zach because i haven't seen him in a month we have a podcast tomorrow but then she sent a text back saying

oh he's been really sick so i didn't know that well then i didn't know that bad i was making fun of him and he's and he's sick so i called him this morning and he was like hello I said, how are you feeling, buddy? He's like, I'm not great. But he's going to get better and he'll be back. He told me he was going to try to be on. He's in Nashville at the NRP. He is.

He's still kind of working, but he's sick and he's also doing something. So it's just more than he can bear. We'll give him some. We're going to give him a pass. Hopefully we'll see him next time. We're going to unashamed. So a couple of things we wanted to mention. One is our cooking episode.

episodes. I did mine. Yep, they've been dropping. So you go to blazTV.com slash Robertson is where you go to get these episodes we're doing. Dad's already done duck gumbo that I think is out. Is that right, Maddie? Oh, do we get to tell what we did or is that a surprise? You can tease.

So Jace has finally now joined. Lisa and I did one as well. I'm not sure. That'll probably be out next month. And then Jace just... Well, don't say Jace, because equally involved was my love. lovely wife. Yeah, and we're trying to include, obviously, the whole family, different people yet.

Well, you got to remember, you're going to see this, but, you know, she does make a guest appearance on the podcast, but I'm basically asking for a favor. Because she resurrected something in our family that was lost. Phil used to make a crawfish all grottin, and then he forgot exactly what he did, and he spent four or five years trying to figure it out. And it just never got back there. But Missy's like, I think I can do that. Now, we're talking about this 20 years later.

And so she did a sample for our Christmas get together. Which was the crawfish pie. Well, no, she did a crawfish pie, but she also. Oh, and I had some of that. She did that all great. Yeah, that was the crawfish. It's a little different than what Phil's was, but it's spectacular. It's very good.

So we had an idea to, I wanted to do the greatest freshwater fish that I know of, which is the crappie. And so we did it two different ways. And one of the ways we did it, we topped it with the crawfish all grott. Ooh, man. Oh, yeah. Feel free to invite me down, Jay says color commentary when you're doing it. So we invited two of our friends. That is a fantastic idea because like the red fish with the crawfish etchie fe on it.

But croppy is even better. We had never put the All Groton on. I did a black and croppy. I just, we had never personally done that. I had eaten that. And so that's what we did. We invited a couple who recently have moved to Louisiana and they're from California. And so we just thought that would be a good way to introduce them to Louisiana cuisine.

See, you got to guys, you got to check out these episodes. They're a lot of fun. and Jason's teasing and making me hungry. So Luke sent us in the mail. This is the unashamed mailbag. Luke Bryan sent us something. It says Luke. It could have been Luke Brian or it could have just been another Luke.

It said, here's what I'd like to see you guys cook. So he has now sent his request for what we're supposed to cook. Jessica stew. Oh, yeah. Is it good? It's fantastic. All right. So we need to have, one of us needs to have Jeff and Jess.

But I don't, she hasn't been forthcoming with that. Oh, she's one of those hide-it. Well, I mean, look, it is spectacular. Okay. Missy's meatloaf, he requested that. So y'all could do that on a future. That's fantastic. Phil and or Jace's fried catfish.

Of course, we just did the crappie, but catfish would be a little different. I might could do some fried catfish along with something else. Yep. Miss Kay's fried pie. which we hadn't had those in a while. That'd be a great idea. They're really good. They're very good.

And then it says the boss hog. I have no idea. Does anybody know what that is? Is that a dish? Is that Willie? I think that's a human. That's Willie. It used to be a guy that played on the Dix of Hazard.

I remember that, Boss Hog, the original. And then Willie had the white suit and the white hat. That was kind of his thing for a while there. He was doing that look. But I guess I need to find out, is there a dixote? dish of the boss hog we had a hamburger at miss kays years ago when we were at a restaurant and we made the boss hog burger and it had a piece of a fried bologna on the burger because willie loves baloney and so you lost you lost me then you lost me now look i'm not willie said it was

delicious but i don't know buddy i'm not hating on bologna because when we were poor and live down here that was one of the five food groups and uh if you burn it and cook it long enough and put it in between some cheese and bread. That was my take. I was like, man, I ate a lot of bologna as a kid. But I will say this, my neighbor down in Gulf Shores, he kept talking to me about smoke bologna. And I told him just what you said, Jays.

I was like, man, I appreciate it, Eddie, but, you know, I ate a lot of bologna as a kid because there was nothing else. And I just kind of feel like I've had a lifetime's worth, you know, early. It's same with Vienna sausage. And he said, no, you need to try this. So he smoked a whole baloney roll. And he cut off a big old chunk of it and brought it over to my house. He smoked it.

I don't know how long on his smoker. But I'm going to tell you something, that thing was amazing. So smoke baloney will work. The problem is is the bigger narrative, which is I used to say or people would ask me, what's in baloney? But then I would come back with a question. that after I would say, look, you're getting it wrong. The question is what's not in it? These are the undesirable parts of animals that make up baloney.

So I'm just saying, let's just say that. So, Dad, do you remember this? This is going way back. This is back in the 70s. You used to go up to Brumet's market, which was in El Dorado, which was above where we lived. And you, I'd go with you because I was a little kid, and you would buy a big old chunk of bologna, and you'd buy a box of Wilson weenies, which is mostly what we could afford. Every once in a while when things were good, I guess you might buy a steak or two.

But do you remember that little place in the El Dorado, Brummets Market? It was like a little meat market. Barely, I just. It was good. You're going way back. I'm going way back. We've talked about the Wilson Wheaties. They were the snapping weenies.

They tried to make. They tried to make a comeback. Didn't work. But for a while. Did the new ones not have the snap? Didn't have it. And they were basically just too much color dye. Yeah.

I mean. They were real red. Yeah. Very red. But the original Wilson Weeny was spectacular, but it's no longer with us. No. It went the ways. The government.

Wasn't that what Benny Prince said? Oh, yeah. The government got it, boy. Yeah. They ruin everything. He was, we used to duck hunt with him. And every problem. in life from, you know, because a lot of things I would agree with him on, but he even got

down to the Wilson Wienies, but every problem in life is a government conspiracy. It's a government, boys. So, he said, we were talking about Wilson, Witties, he said, there's a government. They got them. He said, they ruin everything. All right. So one more thing before we moved to our study, we've been talking about dad's new book. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And we've been talking about pre-ordering those because it comes out March the 12th. There's a couple of different places to go. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.com is one. That's the regular pre-order place. And you can also go to Phil Robertsonbook.com. And that's, you get a signed copy there. Here's the book. Thank you, Jay.

This is what it looks like. I read it, why Jesus is your greatest hope on earth and in eternity. Right. So. Good saying. And I have to say, and I don't know, it's like I've said before, all dad's books have been great, but this one, I think, is the best one. No doubt.

You've done so far. Get me one for Christmas, and I'll read it. All right. I haven't read it. All right. Live and learn. Here, Judge, take that you can read it. Okay.

All right, so we're back in, we're in Acts 1 and 2. And the reason we're doing this is we read Luke. We all had, I think, a profound light bulb moment. on how much the kingdom was being discussed and what it was going to be like from Jesus' lips and his actions. Yep. And as I was doing research even last night,

a lot of scholars believe that originally this was just one book. Yeah. Luke and Acts. And you make that connection because he brings up this Theopolis, because when he said, in my former book, when you read Luke Church,

Chapter 1, we didn't bring this up in the introduction, but we were talking before we got started today. And Phil had a good point about the kingdom that he's going to give. But in, let's see, hang on. It's the first verse 4. Yeah, so in Luke 1, 4. 3, 3. Yeah, 3 and 4, where it says, therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to write an orderly account for you, most excellent. Theophilus so that you may know the certainty of the things you've been taught.

So they were kind of speculating that maybe, you know, this Theopolis paid for the investigation or, you know, what have you. I be funded it, yeah. And so what I found interesting, though, is sure it might have been one book, but Ax actually goes with Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John as it funnels to Acts because this is, what happened after Jesus was ascended and exalted as king of kings, where he's at right now at the right hand of God. Well, then you get to see this kingdom, this new temple, this new adventure as far as people on the earth representing heaven through the spirit of God as Jesus is exalted. And so I think what's also interesting is Luke, not only investigated this, wrote this down, but he's a part of some of the missionary journeys.

When we get to Acts 16, Acts 20, Acts 27, he goes from just saying, when this happened to like, we headed out. This happened to us, which I think is very interesting. No, I think you're exactly right. And while we're here, I wanted to plug this movie. I've mentioned it before. It's called Paul Apostle of Christ.

and it just struck me when you were saying that, Jase, because in the movie, Jim Cavizo, who plays Jesus and The Passion, plays Luke, and he's interviewing Paul, you know, so he's working on these books that he's working on, you know, and Paul's one of his interview sources, and it was just fascinating. It reminded me of the chosen, this idea. It was kind of like a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff you can imagine going on. Of course, at this point, Paul is late in his life,

so he's dealing with guilt, You know, because he's, you know, he did a lot of bad stuff. But this movie is so good. And a little irony, Dad, the guy that directed that movie is the same guy that directed your movie, the blind. So that was just... Well, just think about this big picture. So you have Jesus being recorded by Luke, you know, coming to Earth and discussing what the kingdom is going to be like. That's the first thing out of his mouth.

He spoke about the kingdom. Yes. Yeah. And then you have this journey that ends up in Jerusalem, where he saves the nation of Israel through the hands of, you know, all the, you know, what McGuigan always calls the gods, little G's, all this colliding of authority. Yeah. And Jesus conquers sin and death.

and becomes the greatest authority imaginable. And he did it in a way that none of them could even recognize. And the things he was doing as far as showing what the kingdom is like, is kind of an upside down version of what most people think when they think of success. And you go back to Luke 6th. You remember that where he was like, it's not about money, power, being comfortable, satisfied, people speaking well of you, and he goes through those qualities about being broken and being

insulted because of him and these different things. Because we know that's where his power flourishes once you have this open, broken, humble spirit. You're ready to kind of recognize God's love, I guess, in Jesus. But what's interesting is that when you get to Acts and the Spirit is, you're ready to poured out, Jesus is exalted, and those two things, even though they're separated by chapters, they go together, which is what we talked about last time. Right.

And then all of a sudden, Peter emerges in a way that's really hard to wrap your head around. We take it for granted when you're reading Acts 2 all the way to about 10, because it highlights Peter those eight chapters. To say that he's transformed is not even a strong enough word. Because, Jace, you mentioned it before. We're only a month, a little over a month, after he had denied Christ and was restored. Yeah. I mean, a month.

So it's not like years have gone by. I mean, he was just denying him in the courtyard 40 days ago. So call it the being around Jesus, a dead man that's now alive for 40 days. Call it having the Holy Spirit pour it out. being able to speak in another language, call it the spirit now being available, but somewhere in that process, the man literally caught on fire. I mean, he just, he got it. He got it. But you remember when Jesus told him, as he said, I'm praying for it. Satan is asked to sift

you as wheat, but I'm praying that when you return, you will strengthen your brothers. So it's almost like Jesus was plant that little seed that look, it's fixing to be rough, but you got it. You got something that's going to happen. So it's like he plants that seed in him. I love that. And then, of course, when he restores him, you know, then it's more kind of challenging him.

You know, do you love me? Do you love me? Do you love me? Yeah. But you notice that, and we didn't mention this much, Jason, in the Acts 1, but it's Peter who quotes Psalm, two different Psalms,

to replace Judah. So here's Peter all of a sudden. I mean, we never really see Peter quoting a lot of scripture in his interactions with Jesus. But here he is. First thing he does, he takes charge. He says, we need to appoint a new guy, which we talked about that out of the two. But he's quoting scripture saying, here's a fulfillment that we need to do this. So you can already tell something's changed about him right there, you know, right off the bat.

Exactly. And so then when it picks up in about chapter 9, well, then you see Paul emerge. Right. And we'll go through all the details with that. And he's the main character all the way to the end. That's right. And I think it really, what happens is a definition of what you read in Acts 1,8, when it says, but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you,

and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem. So they start here in Acts 2. then Judea and Samaria. So that's the surrounding area. In the next section. And then into the ends of the earth, well, what I find fascinating is like Jesus and Luke ends up in Jerusalem to culminate this idea of the new temple,

the new kingdom, and what does death-bound resurrection mean? Well, Paul winds up in Rome. Right. And that's when you get to the end of the book. and the last verse in Acts, because the kingdom has not mentioned a whole lot in Acts, but it's more what it looks like,

the new kingdom on earth of Spirit-filled people. But the last verse in Acts and, what is that, the third verse that Phil's going to read, says it starts with it and it ends with it, because the last verse in Acts says, Paul boldly and without hindrance preached the kingdom of God and taught about the Lord Jesus Christ. Yeah.

And what's, and the irony is Peter initiates the gospel to the Gentiles. He was called, remember off the roof to go to Cornelis' house, but it's Paul, the most Jewish of Jews, that gets the role of being emissary to the Gentiles. Gentiles. But he was a Roman citizen. So like it all set up for exactly what it needed. He was a Roman citizen, but he was a Jew of Jews in his own word, a Hebrew of Hebrews. And he had the pedigree, he had the training, he had all of it. But God said, tell you what, you're going to suffer.

He had a hard head. And a hard end. But don't you think it's fascinating that the Romans were the ones that actually carried out the execution? Correct. And you have this this kingdom begin Jesus is exalted and now Paul who his his like you know when you have the you see the people get up and they say hello and they give you my name and then they tell what their problem is I'm a drunk I I struggle with

you know whatever and everybody's like hi my name is yes you know Matt Paul's like hi I kill Christians. Torture people. Yeah, I mean, that was hit the most unlikely person imaginable. And while he's in prison, handcuffed, he is sharing Jesus and doing this. And eventually, if you just fast forward through history, Christianity became the number one religion in Rome.

That's right. And still is cord there with the Catholic Church. Let's take another. I mean, do you think that's a coincidence? Because people all the time say, and I just don't know if this is true. Just look at history. Well, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the story is always, it's near, it's near, it's near, it's near, it's near, it's near, it's near. Get ready for it, it's coming, it's near, it's at hand.

I mean, over and over and over. Warnings are just saying the kingdom of God is next. That's right. I mean, the switchover from the kingdom of God. being talked about and promised. It becomes, when it becomes real, it's a pretty rough go of it. It's rough. It's turbulent waters.

Oh. Cheesy line of the podcast. And people are being killed of it. I'm going to give you my, what's a, we don't have, we need a cheesy line button. Rim shot. Ready? Somebody told me this one time because, you know, I got into metal detect. This is a near to.

to hear. We got into metal detecting and we're uncovering history. And so I was always thinking, you know, you learn from history, learn from your past, you figure out what you did wrong. But somebody said,

you know what I like about history? I was like, what? The more you look into history, the more you see his story. Get it? Yeah. History, his story. I thought it was very cheesy,

but very powerful. And that's what I was trying to outline here. You go back, this really happened. Look it up. Why did all these men have this, and women, have this transformation? What could have happened? Why did they all go to their death? I mean, appeared to over 500 of them,

but most of them died rather than deny Jesus' Lord. And then all of a sudden, the very people that killed him, years later that they put their faith in him that became their state religion was Jesus yeah you can't make this up well you can't and it shows the power of it and jays you were mentioned acts 1 3 that dad was talking before he came home he after his suffering he showed himself to these men gave many convincing proofs that he was alive he appeared to them over a period of 40 days and spoke about the kingdom of god exactly and what were you going to say about that film yeah you were Tell me about the simplicity of the church and how it started with the kingdom.

It was so amazing to me that it was their behavior. Save yourselves from this corrupt generation. Those who accepted his message, and this is always underneath it about baptism. This is Acts 241. Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about 3,000. Here comes the kingdom of God. We're added to their number that day. Let's see.

They devote themselves to the Apostles' teaching. Fast forward a couple thousand years. That's still happening. And to the fellowship, that's still happening. To the breaking of bread every Sunday morning, the remembrance of Jesus. Eat the drink the wine, eat the bread, his body, spirit. everyone was filled with awe, which is pretty amazing.

They're like, can you believe this? Many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. God made sure that anybody walking by and start listening, he would be overwhelmed by what the apostles were doing. All the believers were together and had everything in common. What a fine group of people that would be. selling their possessions and goods, they didn't make any difference.

They say, we're all in Jesus number one. They gave to anyone as he had need. Boy, wouldn't we have a great nation if the kingdom of God was operating under the mindset of this group? Every day, not here, there, not Sunday morning, make sure you meet you got to be church on Sunday. Every day, they continue to.

to meet together in the temple courts. I mean, they were meeting the old saying now in America is, y'all going to church today, this was like every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes. They were all visiting each other, had relationships. I looked back on just my conversion. And boy, did we ever break bread in their homes? I mean, it's amazing.

and ate together with glad and sincere hearts. They're all having breakfast, supper, dinner, next day, get up, same thing. Praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. Everybody's saying, that is a wonderful group of people. They're so kind, and they offered us a meal, and the Lord added to their number daily, those who were being saved. So from there, you start in the book of Acts, and the troubles that come with it.

And, but as far as what you have to do, that's doable by any group of individuals. And we need to bring more of that kind of thinking in front of everybody. So this thing is not about going to church one day a week. You don't see you after that. Well, what are you doing on the side? You know, where's the help coming from?

It's a valid point, Dad, because what you have seen over 2,000 years is sort of a formalized, ritualized, sort of going through these same things over and other. I mean, this seems very organic, what you just described, right? That is correct. People living, living it out every day, meals in a home somewhere. So you're describing this beginning point, and you're right. I think a lot of churches today try to read. reproduce these things, but it's really hard. It's like...

They're getting better at it. Some are, yeah. In the last 10 years, I've seen some things coming together that's good things. These people are not worried about, I mean, it's smaller little groups meeting together here, there, young, or nationwide. There's a lot of religious groups now operating under the auspices of the kingdom of God. I mean, Jesus is the king. He died for your sins. That's all right before this here.

Peter, what do we do? Repent and be baptized. The promise is for you, your children, far off, the Lord of call. In any other words, he warned them. He pleaded with them. Save you, Saraseph, this corrupt generation. Well, fast forward to modern day world. That still stands, Al.

Yeah. That's many of the words who want to save yourself from this corrupt generation. It was pretty corrupt under the Roman Empire. No doubt about it. And the kingdom is thrust right in the middle of that. Well, to this day, there's a lot of going on with people concerning Jesus of Galilee. Yeah, that's exactly right. And we're still a part of it.

I mean, we're still boldly bringing it forward. Yep. Let's take another break. I think one problem, when we were studying, what happened in the first 10 verses of chapter 2, when the Holy Spirit was being poured out, one thing we didn't talk about, and I think we'll address your question on,

you know, why does it look so different in our modern day than it looked like what Phil just read? it's like we almost have a have a temple mentality yeah we've kind of reverted it up into factions we reverted back because we can't all agree on all the other points and and even in acts too i mean you go to from church to church you'll walk in a church building and you'll think is this a funeral but then you'll go right down the road or across the street and you'll say is this a party are these people drunk well i mean that's just the reality i've been in both with equal enthusiasm and so you know they're highlighting different things and the bible is complex cover to cover i mean you're

dealing with a lot of history you're dealing with a lot of symbolic language you're dealing with a lot of prophecy uh you're going back thousands of years and all of a sudden you're putting this all together practically and people just look at things and and decide to think things are more important than others and they go set up their own group that's what they do so and and we're not saying by the way that because you're seeing this picture here that's a beautiful picture that they didn't have problems too look people are problematic if since we're doing a high view of acts when you jump over to Acts 5 and Acts 6, you immediately see these guys weren't together for very long. They started having problems.

Remember, first, it was the widows, and you're not taking care of my widow, but you're giving her some. All of the rest of the letters, once you get acts at the centerpiece of it, and you start looking at what the church, what the, people go to Oregon, where they, if you could play a guitar, you're going to hell. I want the guitar, and I'm like, well, here we got. A little slack, man. If you get into specific issues, that's where you get into. Yeah, that's where you wind up, yeah.

But what I was going to say is this reminds me of the picture in Acts 2 as being the exact opposite of what happened in Genesis 11. God gave them a command to multiply and fill the earth. And so the whole world back then had one language in Genesis 11. chapter 11 everybody understood each other which i find fascinating and a common speech and so they found a plane and settled there and they said to each other let's uh you know get some bricks and instead of stone and they said come let us this is verse four let us build ourselves a city with a tower that reaches to the heaven so that we may make a name for our ourselves. That's the phrase I wanted to get in there and not be scattered over the face of the

whole earth, which on its own, it sounds great because they're unified. And even God himself, when he came down, he said in verse six, if as one people speak in the same language, they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them, which is incredible. And it's a great statement. You're like, well, what's the problem? The problem was he said scatter and they didn't trust him. I mean, it's almost like a garden moment where he said, you need all the trees, but that one.

And then curiosity entered the equation. And they're like, but I want that one. I want to camp out right there. But that's not what he said to do. So that was kind of the problem with that because he's highlighting being unified. He's like, you want to accomplish something, get together. You'll pull it off.

So y'all know the story, but what does he do? So he confuses their language. And when he did that, they couldn't complete the project. And so that's where we got all our different languages, which is crazy. You won't hear that in a public school. I don't think of it. Because look, look, this tower, think about just the practicality of it. The building of the tower was the out.

idea that as long as you could see the tower, you as far away as you need to be. In other words, they were already starting this thing that Thomas Jefferson said when they started the country, don't pile up on top of each other with the tall buildings. We need to spread out because if we do that, we're going to cause ourselves a lot of grief. Well, that was going back to what Jason just talked about in Genesis 11. And here's the reason why. They weren't dependent on God for anything. They were, it was humanism, even way back then. The idea was we're the top of the food chain. Yeah.

And I'm not saying this is directly the problem in modern, you know, using... But you're right, it's ironic that the languages come in at this same thing. That was the point I was going to make is then to draw all these, these same speaking people as far as their heritage, Jews, from all nations, because they were scattered. He brought them all together. The spirit was poured out. And then the miracle was them hearing their language from these 11 guys from Galilee. In which I told you all my point.

There are some people don't agree that I think it's just the apostles. And Phil read one of the, another reason why I think that is because while ago when he read in chapter 2 in verse 42, It says that everyone was filled with awe and many wonders, miraculous signs were done by the apostles. Why is he mentioning that? I think that's who was doing them. Now, we do notice from the letters that they were able to impart that power to other people when they laid hands on them. But we also saw the problem with that when we get to Simon the sorcerer who tried to offer money for that ability. Right.

Bad idea. So my point is... And we never read about anybody in the book that was imparted gifts that imparted it again. You don't see that anywhere. Yeah. It was only the ones who were with Jesus. Exactly. But my point is that they were familiar with that story in Genesis 11, way more familiar

than what we highlight. They knew the first five books of the Bible, like the back of their hand. The crowd gathered here were people that believed in God who had come through Israel's heritage, and they knew it like the back of their hand. I'm positive. They put two and two together here. We had all the different languages that when we were trying to make a name for ourselves and not listening to God. And now all of a sudden, God has called us together, and we're hearing one voice,

but we're hearing our languages from the one voice. I mean, don't you think that's just awesome? Yeah. For that to be the sign that the Holy Spirit has become available. And so then even in that sign, you said, what's the practical part of that? Because I always found it comical. And I want to do a lesson on this because they thought they were drunk. And I don't know if it was the excitement of having this power.

Something was happening that they thought these guys. were drunk the excitement level was so much i mean the only thing i can i do on the planet where people have thought i was drunk when i wasn't was when i catch frogs because i've never been drunk from alcohol yeah and but when i'm out frog hunting if people were watching on the bank they would say that guy must be drunk because i'm hooping and hollering i'm jumping in the water i'm woo i'm dancing you know and because it's it's just one of the most fun things i think you can do But I think when you get to Ephesians, which once again, and I'm making a strong push for us to study that next. I think that's where we're overheaded.

Let's take our last book. When you get to Ephesians, look, you see a similar thing. So if you take the Tower of Bible, you take what happened in Acts 2, then you think the outpouring of the Holy Spirit is then when you pour something out, it's now available. And what Peter said in Acts 238, you can now get the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. which would make sense if he poured it out there's a difference in somebody pouring something on you and pouring something in you correct but if you pour something out what is the purpose of pouring something out it's either bad well we know the holy spirit is not bad or you pour it out so you can ingest it yeah yep you know if i poured a glass of milk i'm doing it so i can drink it right which is i think

what happens. In 1 Corinthians 12, he uses that terminology when it says we're all given the spirit to drink. I think it's a key, key verse. And by the way, just to show you about language and the Holy Spirit being on someone, remember we talked about Balaam and that donkey, I mean, the Holy Spirit can even come on an animal and the animal can speak. We were taught that in school. We decided not to go down that route because it does get so complex. Right. You know, when we were taught in Bible school, they had all the different phraseologies of the spirit like being on you or under the influence or being in you.

Well, it is different. And I do think there is a point there. But I just wanted to read in Ephesians 5, and I just wanted to make a practical point. When he says in verse 15, be careful how you live, not as unwise, but is wise. and if you listen to our last podcast, I went through a whole deal about

we rise up as the temple of the Lord because of the Holy Spirit, and that's in chapter 2 in verse 21. So he's talking about living as children of light. And then he says in verse 17 of chapter 5, understand what the Lord's will is. Now watch this. This is kind of funny.

Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the spirit. Be filled with the spirit. Why do you pour something out so you can be filled with it? Right. And watch what he says. He doesn't go the miraculous line here.

He says, speak to one another with psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart. Always giving thanks to God, the Father for everything in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. And my only point is, what's being introduced here? and the reason Phil when he read Acts 2, 42 through that, and why it was a movement, is when people saw them loving each other, singing, praising God, forgiving each other, having people in their homes, taking the Lord's supper, praying, given to each other as they had need, all these things, praising God, enjoying the favor.

What was happening is you were seeing the result of the, the spirit in dwelling human beings. Right. Look, they were high on Jesus. They were drunk on God's spirit. And it's the exact opposite of having too much wine. That leads to debauchery. It's misery.

It's bloody knuckles, busted windshields, wrecked vehicles, prison sentences, busted relationship. I have plenty of that. So don't you think that's fascinating? That in the moment, they're like, what are y'all drunk? I mean, Peter's like, hey, it's nine in the morning. What are you crazy? Which is, it's funny.

But that was just the sign that pointed to something even greater is that you could have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and get practical on a daily basis, showing who God is with all these relationships, with all the good things. The very things that Jesus was saying, this is what the kingdom is going to look like. We're dividing racial lines. We're standing up for the unjust. We're helping the poor. We're speaking Jesus as Lord.

I mean, all the things you want to come up. That's what it looked like, and it happened when they were indwelling by the Holy Spirit, which is what we're supposed to look like. It's not supposed to be a Tower of Babel looking model. It's supposed to be more of a movement model where the temple, wherever members of the temple of God are going, they're thinking, are you under the influence? And you're like, yeah, I'm under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Because Jesus is Lord.

So that's kind of a practical thing I thought. We need to be the people that are constantly getting pulled over by other human beings. And they're like, what's wrong with you? What has happened? Are you, is this? And I think that's a good way to look at it. And every time we meet up there, that right there is what it winds up being right there. Yeah.

And it goes on a different. That's the picture. When I speak every Sunday morning, I'm speaking to a group of people, there are people coming to Jesus. They're accepting Jesus by faith. They are taught to love God and love their neighbor. It's just a flow of them. And it's not limited to that spot. No.

It can happen here. It happens here twice. I asked the guy where he's from. He said, where he's from? He said, Samoa. I said, American Samoa way out in the middle of the ocean. He said, that's where I'm from. I said, you've made a long trip to here.

He said, I want you to baptize me. You know. Well, we're giving an overview. And the next time we're going to get together, we're going to get into that actual sermon in Acts, Yeah, I was going to say because the middle, we've kind of given you like an Oreo cookie. We gave you the front side, was the Holy Spirit. They gave you the backside what it looks like.

In the middle, the creamy middle of this Oreo is the message of Jesus. Of Jesus. I mean, he's the one that pulls the whole thing. But I do think it's fascinating. We're trying to give you an overall view of this. And here's why. So if I just ask you a question, who wrote most of the New Testament? What would be your first answer?

Apostle Paul. Y'all both say Paul. Guess what? Wrong. He wrote more books, but if you look at the words, actually Luke has like 38,000 words and Paul has 32,000. If you look at it percentage-wise, Luke in his two books wrote more than Paul. Yeah, which is probably was one book. Yeah, it's 27% of the New Testament and Paul is 23%. And I thought found that fascinating. It's pretty amazing. But so, so I do think you have to look at the overall view of what it is, because this is it. This was the prediction.

This was the fulfillment of prophecy. This is what the kingdom is going to look like. And then here it is. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all had to be there for the information that we see in the book of Acts. Yeah, and the story. It is, it has a, it has. information, but it's a story that is then transitioned into what Jesus being exalted ultimately means for us, which is the outpoint of the Holy Spirit.

And what's fascinating about Acts is even though it ends with Paul speaking about the kingdom, that same promise for Jew or Gentile of Jesus being declared, people being cut to the heart, people responding to Jesus and receiving God's Spirit, it just continues. Yep. It acts as really like a dot, dot, dot that comes all the way to, and we're three dots in that story. So, and that's the thing that makes this different. It's, there's a lot of stories out there that impact people, but this story is life-changing.

That's it. In its ability, and that's what's amazing. So we're out of time. We'll kind of, we'll get the middle of that Oreo the next time we get back into this study. We've got a guest coming on the next podcast, which I'm super excited about. So we'll get back to Axe and looking at the big picture. So join us here on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to The Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell to get

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