Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 86 | Breaking Coronavirus Laws, Ungodly Politicians & Phil's Biblical Advice: 'Chill Out, Man'

Episode Date: May 8, 2020

Phil, Jase, and Al discuss coronavirus regulations in America and whether or not social distancing has disrupted the work of the church. Phil wonders what exactly the U.S. government has done for us lately, and Al thinks we may be living in a communist's dream. The guys also tackle the danger of ungodly politicians and offer advice to a believer who feels like he's not good enough for heaven. And Phil surprises everyone with his knowledge of 1990s pop culture See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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we'll make the world a better place. I am unashamed. What about you? I had my hair up, but I don't. We did one. I had my hair under my cap and people were like, why did you cut all your hair off?

I was like, it was up under my hat. They're not used to your golf unless you're golf mood. I had your hair. Well, you can't look. If you don't do that, every time you turn back, my hair goes in my face. Yeah, which is never good. Yeah.

So I talked about hair yesterday. I had my opening. I had it a little bit. Sometimes I like to. Yeah, I watch it. Yeah. You know what I realized yesterday is that you're getting a lot of your material and your bad jokes are coming from this podcast, which is kind of weird. He had some horrific jokes yesterday.

Yeah. Who's that? Ow. Yeah. Yeah. They were so horrific. that my phone was lit up with all the people saying laugh out loud funny because I mainly through Jason of the bus.

Yeah, it was all at my expense. He did what I do to Willie. So what we did that. So, you know, we're doing this live stream is kind of how we're having to roll now because of the, you know, the pandemic. So we can't meet. You know, you're in the same boat because normally you speak. And so Jason and Missy and our little worship crew, they've come up with a lot. a lot of really creative ways to, like, record worship.

It's been really interesting. I mean, they found that, I mean, it's like, it's kind of watching the evolution of this way they're doing it, you know, and I look forward to watching it. Well, what happened was we started off. We just rented the studio because a lot of what we're doing is acapella. And look, there's no place to hide when you're singing an acapella. I mean, trust me. You either got it or you don't.

All you have to do is record yourself in a shower and you'll realize that you need a studio. and some auto tuner. Some lessons. You don't have to give me a lesson. Who can sing and who can not sing. I can't sing. Well, it reminded me, like, because we grew up in the Acapabella Church. Obviously, we were at Wysivir Road, but we also were a part of a little small church out here that you and some other people started.

And so I had just come back, you know, to the last prodigal son came back home. And so they said, wow, you know, you might carry a tune. You'll be the song leader. So nobody else really volunteered for the job. Okay. So it was just kind of more getting it started. The problem was we had a little small church. That's probably what, 40, 40 of us.

And there were two women in there that had really loud, strong voices. Yeah. They could sing. Well, one of them could. One of them was a preacher's wife. And she had a really good voice. She was the song leader. And I don't care what anybody says.

Exactly. She was. Because you would go trouble. And then she takes out. She takes out. But here was the problem. We had another sister over here who's gone on to be with the Lord now. but she.

I'm not sure who you're talking about that. I'm talking about Doris. Oh, my goodness. But look, Doris couldn't sing. Right. But she was loud. She made it, she's like size.

She made a joyful noise. Well, I'm the song leader. So my old deal was I, I would say the first two words to get it going, hopefully on the right, you know, pitch. Then you had duly.

Then I had dueling. You got to remember you're kind of describing the old Phil Collins picture. I mean, playing his card. Phil Collins says he wrote a song, I can't sing, I can't dance, but I'm just standing here selling everything. So you can pull it off, according to Phil Collins. You can't care a tune in a bucket,

but you get them drums going on in a few riffs, and you slick them. He says, hey, I'm just standing here, selling everything. Your knowledge of culture at the ready never ceases to amaze me. You wonder where it comes from. I've heard that song 25 years ago, and Phil just rattled it off. I'm just saying he was playing a card meaning, hey, they're all bad by the me because I can't care to turn under bucket. But you know what?

Because he was a drummer, right? Oh, yeah. But he could sing. Well. Well, he was just saying in the grand scheme of voices, he said, I'm not up. up there, he was saying, no, I'm not a great singer. No, weird. Look, my wife says that all the time.

She's like, well, you know, and she'll say that. I'm like, babe, that's one of the reasons I married you. But they, she looks at it like. Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Bob Dylan. Whoa, we took a left turn on that. I was kind of, they're in my league. They just didn't, but they got this persona going. Yeah, right.

And there you go. Johnny Cash is still one of the most. So you can put it all. Bill Collins was. saying, look, you don't have to... Well, that's what I told Sai when Sy said he wanted to have a singing career. So, well, Bob Dylan pulled it all. Maybe you'll do that.

You know, the baritone that stuck his head out the window in New York City. He was, I mean, he had a voice, you know, and he won awards. But ever so often, he sticks his head out the window. He's quarantined, you know, and he's saying, you look, baritone, you know. You're talking about Bob Dylan? No, no, this is yesterday. Yesterday, some guy, some baritone great. he's been on there won some awards he has great boards where did you see this in i just happened to catch on a little new spot

you got to remember jason i'm under quarantine too and he asked it so anyway back to my story yeah so i would try to get these two it would be a dueling thing between the two sisters and whether the song went off the cliff or not was who took over because if doris ever got it he ain't coming back it's just going to drown itself out if brenda ever got it we were good to go. So that, my idea about being the song leader back in those days was make sure Brenda gets it. Well, to clarify what we did, we start off the studio, but then they're like, we can't have 10 people and, you know, we had to weed out the older people. As the coronavirus continued, our first thing was about 15 singers at a studio, and it was awesome. So then it had some older people and all that then we went to like five people in our house, but then they were like, well, no, we don't want to,

we felt like up. Because then it can't get six feet apart. So now, this guy, this guy, who's on our team, I call him a snap, crackle, and pop, because when he leads a song, he's a percussionist. He's all the time, he can't help it. He's just a rhythm. You know, everything's rhythm. But he came up with this app that you can basically, the finished product, you send it around up to nine places, and you can sing your part. And, of course, he sings, because he's a song geek, he sings everybody's part with.

with a cardboard. This is telling you how we do this. With a cardboard banner that has the name of the person who he wants to sing that because the guy's really telling it. So he sings all the parts. So it's a Brady Bunch look with him nine times.

Well, then they sing their part, whatever their name is, and then replace them with him. What are they calling this stuff on the internet? It's called music. Huh? Music. It's just on the internet.

It's not, there's nothing. It's called music on the internet or is it word for that one? Well, it's, I don't, what would you call it? I mean, Spotify? I don't know. I don't know. But I've seen. Remember, this is as close as I ever come to this and Blaze TV to be a part of the computer world.

Yeah. This is close to ever get right here, what I'm doing right now. You're in computer land. I feel like every time we have these conversations that I'm going back to Caveman. And I'm like, oh, this is a rock. Fire. It's still a rock. It's just a weird rock.

It's, you can't touch it or feel it, but it's a rock. Don't eat rock. You know, you're just how to do the basis. But it's all over the internet, dad. And I didn't realize it was because of the app. But I've seen a bunch of different people using it. Like some of them, one of them had like the whole choir from all across the country. The quality is pretty surprising.

You know, it's like. and they can do it like on a Zoom. So was this the birth? My point was, is this the birth of what the coronavirus because of the pandemic and the life? Is this a giving, giving birth to a whole? Possibly. It really is.

I do think it'll forever change. Because I keep hearing people talk about, you know, they had, they had, who's your old Mick Jagger and the boys, they had each one of them, they were wherever they were. But they're singing together. Right. And I'm looking at it. And I said, well, Jagger and him, you know, that old guy, you know, Keith Richards.

Yeah. So it's for them. They had the drama there. But each one of them, but they were parlayed and they got it together on each one of them had their own screen. Modern technology. Huh. That's pretty amazing.

So Rolling Stones were doing the same thing. Rolling Stones. So, yeah, I think it's now created this whole new thing. Nobody would have ever put that out probably publicly thinking, well, It's not going through the normal studio and all the reasons you normally put a record together. But now people are forced to, and it's actually, you're right. It's good. The quality is amazing.

So Missy and our crew have been doing awesome. So that's part of our live stream that we're doing. By the way, it's WFR Church. org. A lot of you, I know, we're checking it out. We see your names popping up on the screen. Which proves our boredom sometimes creates creativity. It really was it boredom.

Oh, it's coming from boredom. all right we stuck in here don't have anything let's get a single song together so that y'all it's sometimes boosts it boosts creativity so you're changing the old saying from necessity is the mother of invention boredom is the mother of invention that's what we are dealing with now you know what i love about these uh that made me think though phil saying that it these legalistic uh religious brothers among us god love them extra grace required you know they they they they they should struggle so much with taking a verse and like absolutely stressing the necessity of it. And the one that I think about is that Hebrews 10, I think we're going to get to a question

today on this. But it says in verse 25, let us not give up meeting together as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another. And all the more as you see the day approaching, well, the legalistic mind, they're having trouble here because that is correct we're now have established a habit of not meeting together that's right and some people are like I mean so you even see there are some churches that are breaking the law and getting together I saw one of them yesterday yeah they were meeting and I thought we've had some problems in our state I saw the cop there and I thought I wonder if he's telling

them you're not allowed to do this but that's what it's coming from this kind of place but actually, if you had the ability to watch the online service, it's better than you think. It really is. Y'all have gotten used to it. You know, I mean, it's hard. A lot of times we do a lot of speaking. You kind of feed off your audience. But when there is no audience, it's kind of tough to feed off of it.

So you actually just got to make in your mind, you know what, we are together. Because you kind of are virtually. Everybody's talking to each other, which is weird, Al, when you're preaching, everybody's talking. I know. So they wouldn't do that in a normal because they're talking. There would have to be a strong point that Jesus made when he said, where two or three come together in my name, I will be there. That has to mean something.

That's right. Well, look, and it was fascinating, Jay. So I get home yesterday, and Lisa is watching it sits over. You know, it just ended. Well, she didn't watch it as it was happening. So she had to wait until it ended. Well, then she's watching it again. So I get home.

So I'm actually watching the Facebook feed, and I'm seeing what you described. Because I just got through preaching to the camera. Well, I had to defend myself because I was trying to thought about it. I was seeing how your comments. So here's the deal. Look, you have all of these in lieu of the pandemic, all of these edicts. Governors are saying, you know, you can paddle a P-Rogue out there and do a little fishing, but no outboard mortars. You start right there.

You can't gather up in over 10 people in one spot. and they go on and on. You can't be church services. That's all gone, gone, gone. You look at all these edicts. I have racked my brain, and you two are a good, good too, to ask this question. I racked my brain, and I thought over the last, during my work life, I'm supposed to be retired here. I'm about three-quarter retired here, so we're doing this.

This is where I ended up. But for 56 years, beginning about 16 years. old rough-necking in their oil field at $1.86 an hour. That's a floor hand on a drilling rig. You say, in the last 56 years, they've been taking the government, takes money out of your checks, takes money out of your checks, takes money out of your checks, and you end up paying the government about 35 or 40 percent of everything you take in. Well, I did that for 56 years. they took about right at 35, 40 percent the entire time. I have racked my brain, and I look back over the last 56 years.

Maybe y'all can help me here. What has the United States government ever did for me? What have they ever done for me? Well, I mean... They give you a protection... from foreign enemies foreign enemies okay you got that one

yeah they kept I guess they did I mean no they did World War II okay I get it some of the ones after that's a good thought

now keep going start from there and I'm down at the top of my head that was the first thing that popped into my head and they built a few bridges and roads that we used they helped that in a while

but I remember I heard they built a wall when we first started down here 40 years ago, this was all dirt. It was fine. I could make it. That was kind of a state thing, though. Yeah, but they're still, trust me, parishes and states are still getting most of their

funding from the government. But it looks like to me, I asked you to a question. You came up with one that I'd already thought of. Well, all right, the Japanese empire decided they were going to conquer the world and Adolf Hitler. Okay. Well, we rose up against him. Okay.

I'm saluting. I'm saying, I thank you. My dad was in World War II, and my mom was a riveter of airplanes. They were part of the war effort. Okay, I understand all that. But in the grand scheme of things, I'm looking at all these recent in the last month, the government edicts. I'm trying to figure out, okay, they saved me from Adolf Hitler and the guy thought he was God, Hirohito. They saved me from that.

but I think but what have they done for me or you lately but what I was trying to say is I think JFK what was his statement asked not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country that's what would be the answer they would give you what I'm saying is which is I'm thinking when I so when I look at these little laws that they make right when they say you can't meet together I'm like no problem we're going to meet we'll come together with the brothers. It may not be but three of us, two of us, or ten of us or a hundred days. Well, but you don't use online. I consider what we are doing at this moment. Yeah. I'm serious. I consider this meeting with the brothers. Look, on a gigantic scale.

Right. Way more than you can put in a football game bleachers. Right now we're talking. So I said, you know what? What are you talking about we're not meeting together? We're carrying on a conversation here. And, you know, I don't know how many hundreds or thousands or a million or two or listen to it. But I'm thinking, oh, we're meeting together and we're not going to stop meeting together. That's my take on. Hang on. Let's take a break. Where am I going wrong? Let's take a break. I think your overall principle, I agree with. I mean, I think the country is so big, the world is so big that these little decisions really don't trickle down to individuals for the most part, you know. I'm answering what you said, what they've done to, we don't give up meeting together.

And you said that the legalistic approach is we'll break the law and to show you, we're going, we're going to meet together. But in this case, they're trying to protect, we've talked about before, the vulnerable. So we, we're going along with it. I mean. But look, there's a, they have a good reason. But here's a perfect example to that's point. I got two things said. But one is, It depends a lot on the state you live in and who's in charge of it. We have our governor, John Bell Edwards, who I know pretty well. He's a Democrat. He's a good, good man.

Godly man. Godly man. Pro second amendment, pro life. And in our state, he made churches and what we're doing right here at this table, what he calls essential business. In other words, you know, there was non-essential versus essential. He said church work is essential. I mean, that's a godly man would say that.

So what I'm saying? Now, he still said, you know, social distance, not meet more than 10 just because of the virus. But in other words, he said, you guys go do your live streams, get your people together, get your worship people together in smaller groups and do it the smart way. But then you got other states that did what you described. So a lot of it is who you elect. That's why it's important who you elect to run your state. I mean, you know, because that's going to be the one that makes these laws. I think I probably should have rephrased my question to say over the last 50-something years,

what has the government done that I actually needed for it to be done? Well, I agree with your... Can you think of anything other than... Because y'all said World War II and... No, we said protect the country. Well, I was more just saying the protection that's implemented, and the two passages I was thinking about... How has the government helped you lately?

Come on out with it. I'm trying to finish my sentence. First Timothy won. In Romans 13, I'm trying to inject some Bible here, that said where God, he set up the authority and the government, I just think if you pulled that out, well, it would be mass chaos as far as the biggest, the person with the biggest stick and the biggest rifle would blend. That's what would happen. So granted, they may not give me a little thing, but, you know, and you don't want it, I don't, I don't care for. but you have to have it. God set it up because if you don't, and that's why I was bringing up First Timothy,

that the law, and I think in that case, the law that they enforce, is built not for those who are keeping the law, but for the lawbreakers. You know, one passage I wanted to read in that light is verse Romans 13. Three, it says for rulers, hold no terror for those who do right. And I think that's why you have the feeling you do because you're trying to do what's right. But for all those who are not, oh, we need them. So even though we got to put up with our mess and apologies involved. But when you choose your government, Jay's, you should be able to choose a government that's small and lean to that's point.

But out there's millions of people when you have one vote. Well, right. That's what I'm saying, though. That's why we're talking about this because it's important to realize a lean, small government. that understands its purpose is to protect its people and to build infrastructure inside. And after that, that's about it. Everything else we get into, to Dad's point, you're still paying, by the way, you're still paying 40%.

Even in retirement, you're still paying. Yeah, that's right. Okay, you got screwed. But you know what? Get over it because that's just the way it is. Well, we've got to change it, though. I mean, our purpose is elect small government people who are conservative and say, this is what we want to do.

But, my logic is that becomes people's ministry. I believe our ministry. No, no, no, no, I'm saying it. We're talking about politics. But we know a lot of people in the political world. They view that as their ministry, which is, okay, that's fine. But I'm like, I would rather share Jesus, change the heart, and then if I can help them go toward politicians who are more open about spiritual, godly principles,

great. That's the best way to do. Here's my point. So the ungodly, God forbid, the ungodly wins the next election and the next election after that and the next election after that. You say, so what happens when not only do they have an edict during the pandemic that you can't meet together as group? You're like, well, that's a bummer. You say, so what do you do? Well, you still meet together in secret. You meet together like you just go with the small groups. You're obeying the edict. But my point is when you get to and you end up in a place like Bernie Sanders wants us to be to where socialism finally takes root, then communism.

Well, now we're looking at a gigantic country with billions of people, a billion and a high people over there in China. You say it is against the law to practice Christianity in China. Oh, they slaughtered them in the same. 70s, my old Seidong, he slaughtered. Anybody that had Bible, they burned the Bibles. They were done with Christianity. You say, well, did it stamp it out?

They kept right on going. But they do it in secret. It's against the law. They still practice Christianity. God's still there. There are sons and daughters of God all over Red China. You say, but they don't know how to dig them out of these little places where they meet in secret. And they're whispering the script.

That's my point. Well, and you know what it would look like that? If you know what it would look like if America went down that road, living in a pandemic where you don't work and you're waiting for the government to send you a check? And then they tell you what you can do, what you can't do. And then they say, that is correct. Call whenever you see your neighbor outside because they're not supposed to be outside. The life we're living right now is what it would look like if we went down that road.

My point, though, is this is a communist dream. we're living in. I'm saying when you read the Bible about the government's role, 1 Peter 2, Romans 13, 1 Timothy 1. It seems to you, and all those three, if you look at them and read them all, they all have the same theme in common. They're set up for people, they're not really affecting people that's trying to do right, because they have all these other qualities. Let's get into, you know, work and provide for your family. but it's set up for the for the rugged and so I'm saying you asked me what my take is and I'm trying to answer your question I'm like the only thing I'm worried about as far as the government is to keep us keep bad people locked up as best as you can and other you know people that are trying to attack us I ain't worried about your rest of it so let's let's take a break I got an answer for that too so I agree jays so we're citizens not here first The Bible tells that in Hebrews, right? We're citizens of heavenly kingdom.

Well, and Philippians 320, our citizenship is in heaven. It's in heaven. So, I'm just visiting this place. As believers, that's our driving influence. But while we're on this earth, we have an opportunity to be citizens of the U.S. and impact our political surroundings. Because our country was founded as a Democratic Republic. I mean, everything we read about in the passages and the scriptures were all under monarchies. They were under kings. So you get a good king, things were good. You get a bad king, things were bad. The point was you've got to be a part of the first kingdom always, which is what drives us.

Yeah, we are a monarchy in Christ. That's right. We have a king. We have a king. He's a good one. Dear friends, I urge you as here's the way people would view us. First Peter, too. First Peter, yeah, 2.11.

Dear friends, I urge you as aliens and strangers in the world to abstain from sinful desires which war against your soul. Live such good lives among the pagans that though they accuse you of doing wrong, the powers that be, the governmental authorities and the heathens, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day visitors. He says, just do what's right, no matter who's running the thing. That's right. Just remember God is running the thing from heaven and his people. They will not relent or they will not stop. Look at the next verse.

The verse 13 says, submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority, instituted upon the man. That's my point. Whether to the king or the supreme authority. Which is right. You can't meet in a large group. I'm like, got you. No problem.

Got you. No problem. And they're like, how they took that? easy because they didn't slow the kingdom of God down at all. But in this case, they have a good reason, so we're going along with it. But you're right. If they ever made me cross a line of where I'm denying Jesus, no, because I've learned something with all people that have given their life for Jesus, you're better off not denying

Jesus than anything. That's correct. Whether death, torture, because to our faith, that's not a problem. That's why all those guys did die. That's right. Because they viewed that as, okay, you're going to kill me or I deny Jesus. Well, I'm going to go with you better kill me because I'm not, he came back from the dead. So that's my point is if they say, well, okay, you, you, you, uh, you, uh, swooned on me.

You, you backed off. You caved into them. I said, no, I didn't. They said, well, are you meeting in large groups? Nope. And they're like, well, you caved into them. I'm like, no. they claim there's a pandemic.

I believe them just from the news reports. So I think it prudent, pretty good advice, not to gather up in a large crowd. I don't care what you're doing. So I would say, it doesn't bother me to pull back. I know where two or three of us are. And look, the work of the kingdom goes on, and we're living proof of that right now. Well, we're speaking to way, I'm going to meet with that 200 people on the side of the road. if it's the last thing I do.

I'm like, why don't you just let it ride? JFK actually had it right, though, because by sharing Jesus with people, you then change the heart, which then causes righteous behavior, which then calls not a need to be concerned about the government because you're doing what's right. So actually, we're helping the country to be a better place indirectly through people coming to Jesus. Sure. No doubt about it. In warfare, they call it hearts and minds, you know.

That's what. Look, people, I think, have mistaken the verse about sympathize with those in prison. I think I've said this before, but because you read that in the New Testament, but these people were in prison because they were sharing Jesus. Well, the people that are in our prisons, most of them, they're not in there because they're sharing Jesus. They're in there. They need to be in there.

So people say, oh, we need to go sympathize with them. I sympathize with them with a hellfire sermon. that was grace-oriented, but I mean, I'd go in there and say what your... Hellfire grace. Yeah. Well, I mean, because you have to be tough in those environments. Anybody that's spoken, they know. We all have.

If you go in there and try to be flowery and say, you know, today, they're looking at you like... Yeah, right. I'm like, what you're doing is not working. The getting drunk, the doing drugs, the, you know, shooting people. Yeah, Robbie, that is a surefire way to stay in here and to burn in hell fire. You will be punished. However, I have good news. That's kind of, you see where I'm going?

You know, Jay's because we look at that from a spiritual perspective is why you would give a message like that. It is ironic to me in our current situation that a lot of states are just turning criminals out just because of fear they make it the virus. I'm like, wait a minute, they're in there for a reason. They keep turn these people out, and then they go out and commit another crime. I like got my hand raised at the TV when I saw that. I'm like, can we have a, at least give them a sermon out the door? I mean, at least let's preach the gospel door. I thought the same thing does because instead we're just saying, well, just go back out.

The mayor of New York, he said, well, I just, I figured they would understand that this was their opportunity at another chance, so none of them would go out and do it again. I was like, what is it, an idiot? I mean, you don't wind up repeat offender in prison. There's bad behavior, sir. It's a dangerous world. That's when your moral compass is not working. That's a great point.

Well, they don't understand it either. I mean, obviously, that's the case. I mean, look, that's one of the least things I like to do is to go share Jesus at a prison. I mean, I really don't. There's nothing I get out of that. They got, you know, they're rough. It's just, it's, I, I, I, you're locked up while you're doing it.

I'm locked up. I love them enough to go do it. I've done it many times because I think, you know what? If I was, had lost my way and I'm locked up and there may be, you know, this, I know this. I have your answer right here. And so I'm thinking by some chance, maybe a couple of them will say, you know what? I'm going to do that. So it is 100% a service.

I've never been paid for it. I've never even got really a pat on. the back, people are like, well, you're going down there for? In fact, every time Dad and I've done it together, it's actually cost us because you have to get there and you got to, you know, so. But it's okay. It's worth it. But you say, well, why are you doing that?

As a U.S. citizen, because I'm even saying, I'm doing it for the kingdom, first, I'm one. But I'm also trying to make the country a better place. That's right. Right? Because I'm, you know, what was that movie when the guy was like, hey, you know, I know what your problem is? And then he's like, well, he's like, stop breaking the law.

It would help us all be so much more. All right. All right. Let's take a break and then we're going to ask a question. So we're taking a little break from John today to answer a couple of your questions, which, by the way, I appreciate all the questions they're sending in. This was really interesting because this is Kevin from Kentucky. And so I read what he said, and I want you guys to react to it because there's definitely some things in here we can. And if Kevin's thinking this way, some other people are, too.

He said, I've been baptized and gave my life to the Lord, but have strayed by mainly not attending church, which we were just talking about, as I should, praying, reading the Bible, bad use of tongue, which can get me in trouble, et cetera. That's what he said. He says, and this was an interesting statement, I have repented for those sins, but feel that I am not good enough to enter into heaven. what do I need to do to ensure my home is in heaven and that I lead my family and people down the right path? So what would you tell, Kevin?

I mean, look, my first reaction to that, because I know what we do is when we hear a question like that, my mind immediately goes to a lot of the words and semantics he uses that I think, that's not good. That's not good. That's not good. So instead of pointing each of those out, because I don't want to, you know, embarrass you. I'm like, the first thing you have to do is get into the New Testament and the Word and make sure that your philosophies and the way you're categorizing your condition is true.

Because it's like, I mean, one thing I would never do, I would say, I've been baptized and gave my life to the Lord. There's no but after that, you know. But nothing changed from when that happened. God looked down and said, because of what happened on the cross and the resurrection, and you surrender into that. You have God's spirit. You've been born again.

There's forgiveness of sins. There's no but. You are justified. That did not change. Now, your mind might have changed on how you view what's happened. So then he goes into all his. He's doubting because his behavior. He's not perfect.

That's what he's saying. So there's a couple options here. Number one, we're all going to mess up. no matter what. That's a given. Yep. So you said, well, am I messing up to a degree of where I don't think I understood what happened there? That's why I go to that, you know.

So either you didn't really understand what was going on or you're getting bad advice, which is once again why you should read it for yourself. But, you know, I don't think it's an uncommon problem for people to struggle with responding to grace on a daily basis. Some people want to put themselves in some kind of rule-oriented system, and then they can't measure up, so they're constantly feeling like they're falling away every five minutes, you know. But it just doesn't, it just doesn't work that way. Well, when you say, I feel like I'm not good enough to enter into heaven, at its merit in terms of, as it depends on you, none of us are. This is exactly right. So that part is true. Without Christ, none of us can be good

enough. I would recommend to this man, I would read 1st John, the first chapter of 1st John. If we claim, verse 8 says, you're walking the light and you get down. If we claim to be without sin, he's saying, but I'm still sinning and I'm trying not to. If we claim to be without it, we deceive ourselves and the truth's not in us. If we confess our sins, he's faithful and just, and we'll forgive us and we'll forgive us our sins and purifies from all unrighteousness. If we claim we're not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives. He said, I'm rang this to you so you won't sin, Kevin. But if anybody does, we have one who speaks to the Father in their defense, Jesus Christ, the righteous one.

That's how powerful grace is. you're not viewed as a sinner anymore. But I will add to that, Phil, since you're there, in verse six of that, two six, I think, it says whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. And that's a profound statement. And it seems detached from what he just got through saying. But at some point you've got to realize this is not really about what you do or don't do. It's more who you're with.

So your old self was supposedly crucified. And then another terminology that I didn't like is when you said, I have repented of these sins, which I realize that has some biblical words in there. But it's more about God forgave you of those sins. Because repentance means to make changes. Based on your forgiveness and grace, well, then changes they occur. But you're like, well, I've repented like I threw them away, but I don't feel like I'm forgiven. Well, repentance is walking like Jesus did. You're now offering Jesus' its forgiveness just like you experienced.

But how can you offer it if you're not experiencing it? He just needs to remember the model, God, perfect God, becoming flesh, in order to die and remove his sins and guarantee him he be right. He needs to zero in on the model. You say, well, how would I zero in on the model? Walk like he did. Walk like he did. First Peter 401's a good one.

Everyone around you, Kevin. You say filth coming out of your mouth. You say, you never heard that coming out of the mouth of Jesus. Why would you say that? You're not adhering to the model. Look at the model. You see any filth coming out of his mouth? No.

I'm like, make it your ambition to not let any filth come out of your mouth. It's what you just said, Jay. Well, it's hard to get people. It proves your repentance. It proves your repentance. Well, it's hard to get people to listen to your speech on Jesus if you're using four-letter words every other word. That's it.

If I went down and used a bunch of four-letter words and then said, oh, sit down, I want to share Jesus with you. Well, they're looking to me like, what? I've seen people come up used to, and they'd come up to my shop and a building duck house, and they were just cussing every other words, you know. As soon as I started talking about Jesus and the resurrection from the day at an eternal life, listen, they got religion within 30 seconds. They turn from four-letter words to... And when I'm in a public gathering where there's worldly people,

I mean, people that are not living like Jesus, and they're drinking or whatever, even though I know how grace-filled Christians can live, there's nothing wrong with drinking a beer, you know, based on what I've read, drunkness out. But when I'm in a public setting, I use those points of conflict to introduce Jesus. So they'll say, do you want a beer?

There's nothing wrong with me drinking one. But I would rather say, no, I'm high on Jesus. And they're like, what? I mean, all of a sudden, what did you say? I said, you got a Coke? And they're like, as in Coca-Cola? I said, yeah. So my point is, even though I have the freedom in my mind to show self-control,

I'm in a situation where other people are watching me. And I'm going to use that. I'm setting aside what I do and what I repented of or what I think or where this may lead, all these, you know, stupid philosophical questions that religious people ask. I don't care about that. I'm looking for an opportunity to share what I have in Jesus. And because what's funny is people that have come to Jesus and then they ask my opinion about drinking, you know, one drink or NyQuare or beer, whatever it is,

the alcohol content in it. I'm like, it's actually, you know, know, drunkenness is out. It's a good opportunity to show self-control, which is what I'll say. Other people who have a big problem with it, I say, you need to stay away from it because you can't handle it. People say, well, what happened to this freedom and grace stuff? No, that's called repentance. If you can't handle it, get away from it, you know? So it's like you're applying common sense to Jesus living, and that's the way I do with all these issues. Most people just try to get in a box, and I think this question is coming from a box.

He's got it, or he's been told by his pre, you know, this is out, you must do this, you must do that. But there's no sharing Jesus. And when you look at what Jesus did, and we've used this example many times, how did he have a reputation, Matthew 11, for being a glutton and a drunkard? Because he said, Jesus himself said, I came, and you called me a glutton and a drunkard. Well, how do you get that reputation? That's a good point. Let's take a break.

So I think the question here, and this is a legitimate one, is more the idea of embracing freedom. Because it really is about freedom. Remember we're set free from the law of sin and death. So what you hear Kevin saying is he's still wrestling. He's got the Roman 7 wrestle going on here with this idea about, well, I sin, therefore I'm dead again. And I was, I thought I wasn't. And yet I am. Tell him to read Romans chapter 8.

That's right. After Romans 7 is Romans 8. You just told him. You just told him. But my point is out, I keep coming back to, I think, in a lot of religious people, they think it's all about what you do and what you don't do. And they miss the walking as Jesus introducing Jesus mission. The more you're introducing Jesus, the less you're thinking about what you're. You did and didn't do.

But they go together, though, Judge, because think about it, if you're wrestling like Kevin is, he doesn't think he can share Jesus because he's not sure where he stands. Well, I wonder where that idea came from. Exactly. So that's something evil. It's evil. Well, that's what the evil one does. So you're not good enough. Who are you?

And that's when you look in the mirror and say, you know, grace is awesome. I'm not sure how good it is. Kevin, here's first John 3, verse 5. After he said that everyone who sins breaks the law, you know that he's, you know that he's, appeared, God becomes flesh, so that he might take away our sins, that's dying on the cross, and in Him, are you listening to Kevin? In Jesus is no sin, none, nada. You're viewed as sinless because you are in Christ.

The grace of God covers the Jesus was elaborating on there. So look, your position makes it so. that sin is not counted against you because you're in Jesus and your faith is in his death for you on a cross 2,000 years ago. The resurrection proves that you'll come forth from the dead and live forever. I would just chill out, man, and say, look, I just need to. Chill out, man. What are you doing? Come on your faith.

I want to read 1st Corinthiansthus 117. God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise. God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. He chose the lowly things of this world and the despise things and the things that are not to nullify the things that are so that no one may boast before him. So that was his whole point. God uses flawed people to share Jesus. When you do that, all of a sudden you'll look up and there'll be a lot more, I mean a lot less sinful activity going on in your life. And it actually just kind of happens along with the ride.

Yep. So Apostle Paul put it this way about himself, and this sounds a lot like what Kevin said, Romans 724, what a wretched man I am, who will rescue me from this body of death? I mean, I just think I can't do it. I'm messing up. I'm not sure I'm right. Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ, our Lord. Therefore, chapter 8, Romans 8, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

So if I'm going at it from the position of I'm not condemned because of what Christ did, then to Jesus' point, we're capable of anything good. Kevin, you need to remember Romans chapter 4. Blessed is the one whose sins are forgiven, whose sins are covered. And blessed is the man who sin, the Lord will never count against him. never count against him those mistakes you make dude are not being counted against you you need to realize it and say well good night i'm struggling with something god forgives us he forgives us of what we've done what we are doing and what we will do and that's uncomfortable for people

past sins remove kevin future sins not counted against you as long as you simply walk in the light. Everyone will know who you are. You have a clean mouth and you say you have a steady hand. You meet together with your brothers, small groups or big ones. You reach out to your neighbor and you love them and you love God and you move forward. You say, I can do this. Why? Yeah, you can do it. I say we send that to Kevin and now let's. I want to get some of the sticky chicken. That's about her. Sticky chicken is out there on the stove. So, Kevin, thank you for writing in.

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