Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 877 | Jase Refuses to Join Missy’s Hair-Raising Adventure & How to Hunt Gators for TV

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

Jase isn’t much of a thrill-seeker like Missy’s latest adventure, but he and Phil recall their closest encounters with dangerous reptiles and how they managed to get away unscathed. Jase relays th...e dangers of hunting gators with a television crew in tow. The guys consider that the gospel should perhaps be expanded to include one more tenet, as well as the mechanics of Jesus’ death and Paul’s establishment of the church at Antioch before his expulsion from the city. In this episode: Acts 13; Romans 8, verse 11; Mark 1, verse 14; Acts 2, verse 24; Psalm 16, verse 9 -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We're hanging out in Acts 13 and 14. I did get an interesting picture this morning. Zach, you might appreciate this being a Florida native. So one of my Gulf Shores neighbors down to the southern layer, they're about three houses up. And they're on the water. I'm across the street from the water. We're on the lagoon. down there. And it's kind of marshy. There's a lot of marsh grass around where we are on this lagoon. So I've seen a couple of gators out there because it's a good gator covering, you know, for them to have that marsh there. But one of my neighbors, they ran over something in their carport. They get out and they look and they had this picture. And so at the front of their garage, which I walk by this house all the time, at least I go walking, is about, it looked like about a six to eight foot
Starting point is 00:00:57 gator and they had run over him because he was under their car. And so, of course, I guess when they ran, when they backed over and then he scrambled up there to the front of the carport, which would make him a little more dangerous because you just ran over it. But I just thought, man, I don't know if this weather we're having because of storms, if it pushes them in or if this is just what's happening now. But you started having these six and eight foot gators in your carport days. I mean, flooding is one thing, but, you know, dealing with a repriments.
Starting point is 00:01:27 That could cause you or your little poochies like your little ones at your house. That would just be a snack. Yeah, it's like when I was in, did I tell you when I was in South America? I mean, there's a lot of crocodiles. And they're a little more aggressive and fierce from what I hear than the American that I shared these stories with you. Can you remember? No, I don't remember anything about a crocodile.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Traffic jams. Oh, you said you saw them off a bridge or something. Well, people would, yeah, people would line up. and watch crocodiles eat cows that were trying to cross the river. And I'm like, what's going on? And so then my lovely wife, you know, because she's, we're in South America, we're going different countries. And she's like, well, let's go.
Starting point is 00:02:16 You know, you've seen these things in movies, which I thought at some point we had gotten to a point in our society where we quit walking. between cliffs on these little Raiders of the Lost Ark type things that are their bridges, but everything's moving on them. They got chains and they're like, oh, it's safe. You know, you fall off. You have a lot of time to think about your impending death. She's like, let's go do that.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I said, no, you go do it. Let me know how it works out. So her and my daughter, you know, because they like that adventure. Yeah. But what I noticed is the crocodiles, because every time this one of these little bridges, they're not a bridge, what is that? A walkway that you're...
Starting point is 00:03:09 Just like the one on the Indiana Jones, where they walking across, all the crocodiles are down below. And I'm like, I'm not putting the Lord God to the test by walking across this when we don't have the resources in this country to build a bridge. You know, and my wife is like, oh, I'm sure it's fine.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You know what you call that? That's famous last words. You know, I'm sure it's fine. So I think my line was faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. I get that with God, but I don't have faith in what I see. You're not have faith. I'm like, if I just so happen to make it, the fall,
Starting point is 00:03:54 because there have been people who have fallen great distance. and survived. Yeah. Well, now I'm surrounded by crocodiles. Why would you do this? But they did it. Oh, yeah. And now they lived with them.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And screams and hollers, you get screams and hollers going out through the caverns and the valleys. And I just thought, it just, you know, I mean, I think my wife sometimes is not that, that courageous. And then she does that. And I'm like, for what purpose? For what in? What's what I asked John Luke? John Luke, when he was young, he was a teenager, like, back when the show was on, he was like 15 or 16,
Starting point is 00:04:35 and he went skydiving for the first time, and he's gone several times since he told me. And I was just like, why? Like, and I said, what's you thinking, John Luke? Just tell me, because I don't even like getting on an airplane and flying in it with everything closed up. The idea of jumping out of one has zero appeal to me. And I get it that you would be flying and all that.
Starting point is 00:04:58 But I'm just going to wait for the resurrection because Jesus. Well, that's me. I'm saying. Well, what I was going to. He said, he said, I just, the idea of it exhilarated me and it was better than I expected. And I was, you know, like he would convince me to go. And I said, well, that's good for you, bud. I'm waiting for the resurrection.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I mean, to your point about the alligators, you know, we had a place one time, Phil deal where we'd get alligator tags. You remember that Phil? Yep. And, but I didn't even, when we first got. got the place, Phil and I just took off roaming all over. We were leased in the place and it's a duck hole. But it was just, I mean, it was cool.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It was about this time of year. And it had been cool the night before. We're out there in the swamps, looking at the duck holes, you know. Well, the next day, the same place that we had just gone all over the property, it got warmer. And we were going to go do it again. I don't know if you remember this. And we went out there, and there's literally an alligator under every log. We had just, the day before, just stomping around all over the whole property.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And this place was literally teeming with alligators. And it kind of hit me that, you know, I could have died here. Yeah. What are we doing? And eventually we caught them. But so we were, for our treasure hunting show, we were going to do a little duck blind scene in, during teal season. And so I'm going back a few months.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I mean, the show hasn't even released yet that we did. But like our show usually does when we went out there to get in the blind and do our little scene, whether we were going to shoot teal or not, I was like, if a bunch comes by, but it's pretty hard to shoot teal when you have a camera crew with you. Yeah. Because they're not camouflaged. They're standing out a little bit. But when we got to the blind, well, a big alligator jumped off the blind.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And they're like, forget the teal. I mean, let's follow the gators, you know, because they're all these TV people, you know, they're, they're having my wife's same experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, there's all the gators out of it. Let's get them. Get the cameras on them, you know. And so, long story short, the guy who owned the place, I was like, what do you do with these alligators? He's like, we're fixed to catch them.
Starting point is 00:07:20 We just got our tags in. I was like, well, do you want to partner up? and do this on TV, and he's like, sure. So we went alligator hunting for the show. And so, and we caught one. And you'll see it on the show. Well, I'm bringing this up because the day after we caught the alligator, they called an alligator that was almost 14 feet long.
Starting point is 00:07:48 That's a big boy. And I got a picture of it. I'll ask him if we can show this picture. And you know, you see these pictures on the internet. internet and you're like, well, that can't be real. Because if I saw this picture, I'd say no way. Because even though it's almost, well, it just doesn't look real. I've lived in Louisiana my whole life and I've seen a lot of alligators.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I've never seen one like this. This is a monstrosity. So the producer of the show, she's like. That's two Zach Edie's laying in to end to end. 14 footer. You know what I'm saying? That's a big animal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And so when we caught the alligator on TV, success, my idea of success and their idea of success was two totally different things. Because when I got home, Missy said, well, how'd it go? And I said, we survived.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Because you don't realize trying to film that alligator, he doesn't realize we're doing a TV show here. You think you missed the memo? When you've caught one, he's trying to defend himself here, you know. And the only way to bag the gator is, uh-oh, there it went. Okay, the power went out, so it's mid-alligator story.
Starting point is 00:09:11 We have a storm going on. There's alligators going around. It's hard to get a podcast going on. I forgot exactly where I was in the alligator story. But I was fascinated. 14-footer. Yeah, so what happened was the next day they catch this 14-footer. And, I mean, they took a picture.
Starting point is 00:09:30 There's two six-foot men standing on each other's shoulders, and the alligator is two feet longer than two six-foot men. And so the producer, I sent her that picture, and she was like, man, what bad luck that we only caught one, not near that size. I won't give you the details. You have to watch the show for that. And we called her nice alligator.
Starting point is 00:09:56 But compared to this, and I said, bad luck. I said, if we were to try to land that alligator for your TV production, someone would have died. Or at least lost an arm. I mean, you don't, because they just don't understand the power is my point. There is a power and there's power. A 14-footer with 20 people standing around in a little rickety John boat trying to film it. No. So, you know, be careful what you wish for.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I love it. Well, and look, that's, I mean, and there's more of them now. I mean, I can remember when there were no gators in Louisiana. Yeah. This is all in our lifetime, Jason. I mean, you used to could. Well, in North Louisiana. In North Louisiana, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:10:47 South Louisiana, you've always heard. I always have them. Yeah, North Louisiana is what I meant. Yeah, well, you're right. That was, we never saw them when we were kids. But they migrated up here. Now we see them all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:58 But, you know, as a general rule, what I'm saying is alligator is I deem them as harmless just because I've been around them. I think the only way you'd get in trouble is if you were around a nest during the springtime and stumbled upon. Or if you're trying to catch one like you were describing. Well, right. If you're, you have one. a live one that, yeah, there's something could go wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:22 But crocodiles, different story. They're aggressive. And you see these people who are tourists or whatever. It's the same people that go up and try to hug a bear, you know, hug a bear. John Denver song in the background. And it's all fun in games, so somebody gets eaten. That's a hugger. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:43 You know, so if you go out there and try to be stupid, It's not going to end well. It is a wild animal. I grew up in North Florida, which was, there was a gator infestation where I grew up. And so I was never afraid of them for a couple reasons. One, when we would go ski in on the Swanee River, I mean, there are gators on the bank the whole way down. But as soon as you ski by them, they go in the water. They're kind of like turtles.
Starting point is 00:12:10 You know, they want to get away there. They weren't aggressive. And then on the campus of University of Florida in Gainesville, which is where I was born, they have a lake. It's called Lake Alice. It's like in the center of campus or on the edge of campus, rather. And there's literally gators, like 12, 14 foot gators is on the sidewalk and the sun. I mean, it's kind of a weird feeling, but they're right in the middle of everything. There's this lake, just full of alligators right on the campus of University of Florida.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So I never was really afraid of it. Which is why they hit their mascot as a gator. The closest I came to losing a hand is we were frog hunting in a slew in North Louisiana, which you wouldn't think this happened. We have alligators, but they're not as planting for somewhere like Florida or South Louisiana. And so we hit a log, we come over, I'm on the edge of the boat. You know, we grabbed frogs with our hands. And when we bounced over the log, because our mode of operata,
Starting point is 00:13:14 when you're frog hunting is if you have something in the way like a log pile because a frog's liable to be anywhere you get over that with speed it's shocking all well you just let's how you get the frog
Starting point is 00:13:30 what we do there's a signal that the man is fixed to catch the frog if he raises his hand and shakes his finger that means give it all it's got now you will also tear up equipment put hole in the boats turn boats over. All this has happened in these moments.
Starting point is 00:13:46 But Phil knows what I'm talking about. Phil train me. Oh, yeah. And when I bounced over that log with my hand up to get the frog, just a gator that I did not see, he just opened his mouth. Like, come to me, my pretty. So here I am. Hand up.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Oh, no. There's an alligator in between me and the frog, and his mouth opened. Yeah. I don't really remember what happened. after that because I went up on the frog at that point. From the front of the boat to the back of the boat without any knowledge of what happened in between. At that point, it was sheer panic and instinct took over to get away from that allegation. You said, what did you do?
Starting point is 00:14:29 I looked down and to see if I had wet myself during the process, which I hadn't. Because that was terrifying. You know, you would think all he had to do was just snap because I was that close to him. But I don't think he was really trying to attack me. He just saw something coming toward him. He thought it was going to attack him. Yeah, I think that's what I. So Unashamed Nation, you see, all I need to do is tell you about a picture I saw this morning.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And there was our cold open. Frank J. Jace out of our mailbag said, you've heard of John the Revelator? Well, I love Jace, but he's Jace the Interrupter. Ha, ha, ha. So there you go. Sometimes in life, you know. need an eruption. Let's take our first break.
Starting point is 00:15:23 So I'll tell you this, though, I wasn't as scared that moment as I did when I got dared because there was a frog. We dried docked because it was too shallow. And there was the biggest bullfrog I've ever seen in my life. And there were three snakes cold up. I've seen that many times. In between where the boat is dry docked and the frog. And my buddy dared me.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And I just, I was young. I was stupid. Now, this is the man that wouldn't cross the rickety thing, but he'll tiptoe through the tulips around three cotton mouth. That's a good point, Al. If there, you do. I would have gone by on the rickety thing. I'm not going to do it just to do it.
Starting point is 00:16:16 If there's a huge bullfrog on the other side, you might have gone. Oh, I would have done it. I'm Indiana Jones. And I got out of the boat. And the guy, you know him, old Williams, he was the motor man. I just, my adrenaline was pumping so much. And I just ran, did, it was like the triple jump. Triple jump.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah. And I'm like, sigh, I think I actually broke the record for the trip. triple jump, got the frog, triple jump again. You could have been a gold medal winner with that triple jump. Dove in the boat and O. Williams said, it was a miracle. You know, that's what we should. There's an idea, Zach, for a new television series. We call it the Redneck Olympics, where you have things like snakes and things in the mix of why you're doing your Olympic feats.
Starting point is 00:17:16 You think I made that story up, but it's a true story. It lives in infamy because I thought, I think I'm going to retire. I mean, I would watch, way more interestingly, would watch a triple jump over three watermockesons than just a guy running down the thing. Yeah, there's got to be, you got to raise the stakes. Yeah, there's got to be an element of danger. I agree. Redneck Olympics.
Starting point is 00:17:38 The reward outweighed the risk. We had our tease that we did a cooking episode yesterday when I think, thought about Redneck Olympics. Jay Stone came up with a, because we did a, he was cooking a dish yesterday on our cooking episode, which you guys can see if you go to Blaze. It's the Robertson cooking show is where we're doing our cooking episodes now. And it was interesting because he came up with the, we talked about the Cajun Trinity, you know, being garlic, onion, and bell pepper. And he talked about the Redneck trilogy, which was cream cheese, jalapinas, and, you know, And bacon.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Oh, that's the Redneck trilogy. You can put that on anything. It is pretty tasty. I actually ate some ducks in that manner last night. Yeah. Well, yesterday we had pork and venison that way, so. Isn't that something?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah. So I'm not just telling you that story because there's no spiritual application. I've been waiting for the, I've been waiting for where you were going to bring this. Well, in the book of acts, and you got all this persecution and mayhem and there's powers that are at work against God. people and God. It's mainly gods that we've created that human beings create. And you're like, why, why are we going through this much pain, suffering, and why is God allowing all this? And I'm telling you, the reward is greater than the risk.
Starting point is 00:19:07 So if you imagine that's what God had to do to catch us. That's good. That's a good spin. Despite the dangers, the evil, because a cotton mouth, I think, is just evil. Yeah. I mean, you can make a correlation with the evil one embodying a snake. Because once you get to know a cotton mouth real well, what would you say, Phil? They have no fear.
Starting point is 00:19:33 None. They will bite you. Oh, yeah. And so that's the point I was making. I'm way more scared of a cotton mouth moccas than I am an alligator. Which, by the way, some other friends of mine down at our house down there were swimming. our pool and they took a picture and there he was old gym right outside my swimming pool down there i haven't seen one so now i got to deal with that when i get back anyway so back to x 13 jays nice
Starting point is 00:19:56 pivot uh to give us back to our text we left off we kind of were just looking ahead into this sermon we got a little bit into the weeds of it but i want to read it today because i have to say i mean the sermon in Acts 2 that Peter gives is probably the most famous sermon in Acts. But this one's pretty good too. This is Paul's first recorded sermon. He's on his first missionary journey. He just had this dust up in Cyprus. And now he's in the Pasadian Antioch.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And so he goes into the synagogue. They ask him if he's got a word. And he's like, oh, I got a word. Hold my fermented drink and watch this. And so he says, standing up in verse 16, Paul motioned with his hands, And men of Israel and you Gentiles who worship God, which we talked about that in the last podcast, Listen to me, the God of the people of Israel chose our fathers. He made the people prosper during their stay in Egypt.
Starting point is 00:20:51 That's an interesting way to put that. With mighty power, he led them out of that country. He endured their conduct for about 40 years in the desert. He overthrew seven nations in Canaan and gave their lamb to his people as their inheritance. And by the way, that was all predicted when Abraham left. This land was predicted way back the end. So he's kind of doing the same thing Peter did and also the same thing Stephen did, remember in his sermon. Yeah. It happens over and over. That's why we went back last podcast, which to some who are new in the faith that might have seemed very historical and hard to grab a
Starting point is 00:21:32 hold of. But this is God's message to the world. This is how it happened. He chose, Israel and brought Jesus to restore Israel and through that opened it up for everyone. Which is why for people, I don't know, some groups for some reason think the Old Testament's not important, but it really gives you the basis. It's all there. So it just, it enhances. Look, it's difficult. It's not an easy read. But I'm telling you, if you can really spend a little bit of time back there on some of those prophets and what happens, it really brings it to life for you. But unfortunately, a lot of people also view the Old Testament. like the sum of the Jews, I would say the majority of the Jews,
Starting point is 00:22:11 because there's a phrase in here that we're going to get to where even though they had those scriptures and had those stories, they didn't recognize Jesus. Because when you read Luke 24, when Jesus said, I'm fulfilling everything that the law and the prophets said about me. You remember that John 5, you study the scriptures thinking that, them you're going to have eternal life but you refuse to realize that those scriptures were about me yeah so yeah so you don't want to miss the point is is the point um so in verse 20 all this took about 450 years
Starting point is 00:22:54 this idea of the the exodus and the conquering of canaan after this god gave them judges which there's a book about that until the time of samuel the prophet so these are kind of eras is a good to look at it as you're reading through the Bible, the era of the judges, the era of the prophets. Then the people asked for a king. Now we got the era of kings. And he gave them Saul, son of Kish, of the tribe of Benjamin, who ruled 40 years. And that's a whole other interesting story. After removing Saul, he made David their king, because really David was the only one that was picked by God. Everybody else either came through heritage or was picked by men. And he made a covenant with David.
Starting point is 00:23:36 He made a covenant. They would last all the way and be recognized in Christ. Let's take another break. So in verse 22, it says he testified concerning David, I have found David's son of Jesse a man after my own heart. He will do everything I want him to do. And David was a flawed man with a lot of issues, but he was also a believer and very special to God.
Starting point is 00:24:05 From this man's descendants, God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus. So he made the Lord. that leap you just made, as he promised. Before the coming of Jesus, and this is interesting, John, talking about John the Baptist, preach repentance and baptism to all the people of Israel. As John was completing his work, he said, who do you think I am? I am not that one. No, but he is coming after me whose sandals, I am not worthy to untie. So, you know, because John was lauded as the spirit of Elijah and a lot of people thought he was the Messiah. And he said, no, I'm here just a point to the Messiah, which is that point of don't miss Jesus. And then I,
Starting point is 00:24:51 then I wanted to read this and park here for a minute because this was the point we were making. This really is the money part of his sermon. He says in verse 26, brothers, children of Abraham, so he's called them back again. He's bringing them back. This is what a preacher does when you making your next point. You know, you bring everybody back. Yeah. And you God-fearing Gentiles, so he adds that again, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent. The people of Jerusalem and their rulers did not recognize Jesus. Yet in condemning him, they fulfill the words of the prophets that are read every Sabbath. Remember, this is what they're doing. They're there during the Sabbath. Though they found no proper ground for a destinus, they asked Pilate to have
Starting point is 00:25:40 him executed. So now he's getting down down rubber mese rope. When they had carried out all that was written about him, they took him down from the tree and they laid him in a tomb, but God raised him from the dead. And for many days, he was seen by those who had traveled with him from Galilee to Jerusalem. They are now his witnesses to our people. So I want to stop there before we get into the next part, because he's going to do what David, I mean, do what Peter did and quote David about the resurrection. But that, in essence, is the gospel message. But he's expanded the idea that it was more than just the Jews who missed him. But also, Zach, which is interesting to me, is he shows you that everything had been talked about and was fulfilled in this moment.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Yeah. as well. Yeah, he's given this, he's given a history of Israel. So I think this verse 26, you can't miss this, because he gives a history of, of the children of Abraham, Israel. But then when he addresses, readdresses them, he, what does he, who does he include? The Gentiles. Correct. The fellow children of Abraham and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us, Jew and Gentile. that this message of salvation has been sent. I mean, and you see this is happening in almost every single chapter of Acts. I mean, when the sheet came down from heaven and revealed all the different animals that were previously considered unclean that God said, don't call anything that I've made clean, unclean.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And then the next chapter, it tells us he was talking about Jew and Gentile and the inclusion of Gentiles. And so this vein is coming out here in the gospel. and also when he says in verse 27 that the people of Jerusalem and the rulers did not recognize Jesus, yet in condemning him, they fulfilled the words of the prophets that they, that are read every Sabbath. I mean, there's a lot of prophecy in the Old Testament about them not recognizing the kingdom when it would come, not recognizing the king when it would come, that it's a secret. I've mentioned this on the previous podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Mark four talks about this when it says that Jesus, Jesus says to you have been given the secret of the kingdom of God. But it's not for those that are outside. And he gives this quote out of this Old Testament prophecy here that they may indeed see but not perceive and may indeed hear but not understand lest they should turn and be forgiven. So it's a revelation that came in Jesus, but not everybody recognized it. And that was in part to fulfill what the. Old Testament it prophesied, but the secret of the kingdom is this. Colossus 127, that it's Christ
Starting point is 00:28:37 in you. So I think that's what's being established here with the multi-ethnic kingdom that these guys are establishing on behalf of Christ, is that you're going to have, God's going to live not in a temple anymore. He's not going to be found in your centers of worship, in your synagogues, in your Ariopagus in Acts 17, which is coming up. He's not going to be found in those places. the God of heaven will be found living in humans, Greek and Jew, Gentile and Israel, male and female, slave and free. God will Christ in you, and that is the secret of the kingdom. And you're seeing this unfold in real time in the New Testament Church. I think that's one of the key undergirding truths of this passage.
Starting point is 00:29:30 No, and I think you're right, and I think that's exactly why that Paul's methodology was what it was, because he was going into these synagogues first to just declare the gospel to the people there. I mean, for them to understand this is what it's all about. And I think his credibility as being a Pharisee, as training under Gamal, all those things give him, that's why they said, hey, you got a word for us. It's because of his background. But now he's not only giving him the good news, but he is expanding the horizon that it's more than just us. It's always struck me.
Starting point is 00:30:08 He just threw in all this to 450 years. Yeah. God's way more pace than we are. That's a great point, Dad. Because if it doesn't happen in 45 minutes for us, much less 450 years, right? I mean, this was not an easy thing to have happened. to the human race. That's right.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And it takes a while to get it, get it out there and get it set up. I know it. What were you going to say, is that? When you read verse 32, which I know we didn't get there yet, but it says, we tell you the good news, what God promised our ancestors, he has fulfilled for us, their children by raising up Jesus. Yeah. And he goes into some songs.
Starting point is 00:30:44 But I think it's important when we define the gospel, you know, we often limit the gospel, in my opinion, to just, just the death burial. and the resurrection of Jesus. That's part of the gospel, but the gospel that's being preached here is much bigger than that. And you see it in Mark, in Mark chapter 1, verse 14. Now, when John was arrested, and by the way, this was just mentioned, you know, John, at least John the Baptist's ministry was mentioned. When John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of God. And then he's going to tell us what that gospel is and saying that the time is fulfilled. and the kingdom of God is at hand. So I think it's important for us to expand our definition of the gospel that the kingdom is at hand. And the death, the burial, and the resurrection of Jesus, the 1 Corinthians 15 passage is how our atonement is paid for and how we enter into that kingdom. But it's also all of the Old Testament prophecies that led up to this. It's also life in Christ now.
Starting point is 00:31:52 It's also that Christ lives in you, Acts chapter 2, when they repent, baptized, every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you'll receive to get to the Holy Spirit. That's that Colossians 1-27, Christ in me now. And that is, so the gospel is that God is near, not just near. God is, he lives in the, in, human beings. And I think that when we start to expand our gospel of Christ in that way, it moves us away from just a gospel that says it's only about forgiveness of sins. It's only about what we're saved from. only about our justification to a gospel that says, yes, it's about that, but it's also about
Starting point is 00:32:31 what we're saved to, or rather who we're saved to. And now life in Christ, which is, which would speak to my life right now as a Christian, like what I'm dealing with on a daily basis, I need forgiveness. I need forgiveness now. I need healing now. I need hope now. I need transformation now. I want my, my desires to be transformed. I don't want to live in loneliness and misery and shame and pain. And the gospel has something to say about that right now, even post, my post-salvation. So I think that that's all kind of being unfolded. So what he does next, as you led into, is he now does exactly what Peter does. He invokes the name of David, which is going to have a huge influence on this audience in the synagogue, about the resurrection.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And so first he quotes Psalm 2, You are my son today I become your father, which is a messianic Psalm, because David in his Psalms looked ahead to this. this idea of lordship, but it sounds like he's talking about himself, but Jesus even said, he couldn't be talking about himself. He had to be talking about something before him, who was talking about him, Jesus. And then he says, he quotes that same one from Psalm 16, you will not let your holy one see decay, which is what David also prophesied about Jesus. And then verse 36, he says, for when David has served God's purpose in his own generation, he fell a sleep. He was buried with his father's and his body decayed. So he's making the point. David
Starting point is 00:34:06 wasn't talking about himself. He was talking about somebody else. And he's talking about something so interesting in life. Yeah. Is that if you had a way, if you could put something in a bottle and sell it for 20 bucks. And it was to keep your body from decaying. Yeah. Pretty sure that would make you a multimillion if it worked. A billionaire. That would make you a millionaire. That would make you a trillionaire. A trillionaire. That's right. If you could come up with that one.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It all depends on your marketing, Zay. I don't think it would matter how you market it. If it worked, trust me. I love that this, where this is going. Because I'm saying this is what we're discussing. Yeah. And people are like, there's more health stuff out there in pills and procedures. And you're reading about a promise that he's quoting that.
Starting point is 00:35:01 It says, oh, and what's the nature of the promise that his body would not decay? Yeah. That should get your attention. They should get your attention. I mean, I've seen more carcasses probably than most people, and they all have one thing in common. They decay. They decay, and they smell bad. Which there's a lot of, it's interesting in the scholarly world.
Starting point is 00:35:25 They read this because they can't decide or agree. if he decayed a little and it quit decaying. Yeah. Because he did die. Yeah. Or, you know, because in Acts 2, I mean, it wasn't like this the first time we're hearing about this. You remember what Peter said? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Peter said, what is the exact phrase? He quoted in Psalm 16, it says, so Acts 2, 26, he said, therefore my heart is glad, my tongue rejoices, my body also will live in hope because you will not abandon me to the grave, nor will you let your holy one see decay. It also says it another place in here somewhere. And he's quoting that same psalm. The same psalm is it some? Yeah, Psalm 16.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Yeah, they both, isn't that interesting? And I'm not so sure that they, he heard this from Peter. I mean, oh, I know the verse I was looking for, sorry. This is. Interrupting. 2.24. God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him.
Starting point is 00:36:45 So whatever that means. Yeah. His body's not seeing decay, and it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. Because I think at that point you say, well, why? Because you had the Holy Spirit of God. Which then when you read Romans 8-11, it's real exciting. Yeah. Because it says if the same spirit who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you,
Starting point is 00:37:05 it will give life to your mortal body. Right. So your body won't see decay in the way that it can never be recovered. That's right. To be a little different than Jesus. And he said this in the next verse in verse 37, Paul did in his sermon, Acts 13, but the one whom God raised from the dead did not see decay. So, I mean, you know, Paul just flatly states it.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah, but the scholars don't agree. I know. But, I mean, that sounds pretty plain to me. They don't like it because it makes it sound like, well, our body's not going to see decay. Well, it is. Yeah, we're going to die. You're going to die. And you're going back.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Somewhere in there, I'm not sure what the answer. I brought up something I don't have an answer for, but I'm saying the scholars don't. But just because you don't know exactly how God's going to work that out, doesn't mean it's not true. Yeah. It's going to, it's kind of the same. argument when people say what is God made of well not sure how to answer that you know because you have verses that say you can't look upon God's face or you'll die and then people say well I didn't think God had a face yeah I thought he was light on an unapproachable light I just looked
Starting point is 00:38:23 this up interesting yeah so the the petrification of what he decacrification Yeah, I just like the way you said it. That's funny. Or putrification. I don't know how you pronounce it. Petrified. So it's like when you have a piece of pine kindling, you know, the petrified wood. Have you ever seen petrified wood?
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yep. What is that? It's part that didn't rot. Part that didn't rot. This is P-U-T-R-E-F-A-C-T-I-O-N. So petrification or putrefaction. Is it how to pronounce it? I think that means when you ate something bad.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Putrification. Petrification is when I ate something and vomited it up. You sure you got the right word? Well, it's on Wikipedia, so we have to, we have to, this is the problem. I'm trying to make the point. I think it's the petrified wood concept. I don't think it's Petra, though. It's putra.
Starting point is 00:39:23 It's putre. P-U-T. Oh, well, read us what that means. That'll help. The first part of decomposition of the body. Yeah. It's marked by the breakdown of the body tissues by bacteria from the inside out. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Putrified. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the future. So the first signs of putrification happened within 24 to 72 hours after death. You divide 72 hours by 24 and guess how many, how many days you get? Three.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Three days. Hmm. That's interesting. Well, we've discovered quite the concept here. But I was just making the point, if you have a choice of being putrefied or petrified, go with petrified. Yeah, Jesus was neither. He neither suffered petrification or petrification. Well, look up petrification.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Look up that one's that. I see that. That's why you're looking that up. I was trying to get a sermon. Let's take another break. Oh, I'm working. Are you petrified or are you petrified? Or are you in Jesus?
Starting point is 00:40:31 All right. Petrification. is the process by which organic matter exposed to minerals over a long period has turned into a stony substance. That'd be the wood. Yeah, it turns into water every time. It turns into a piece of rock that looks like wood. But that's my point.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Why is that in creation? Yeah. Gives you hope. Well, my point. Is there a way for me not to rot? I'm interested in that. I agree. But it is interesting that Jesus was not in the grave more than three days, and the process of putrification is first evident within 70s, within three days.
Starting point is 00:41:16 So his body was rescued before that set in. Which is why he waited, by the way, I think, four days to raise Lazarus. He waited another 24-hour period. So he had began to petrify. He had been, and even, there you go. So there's your answer to Romans 8-11. Even though we're going to be petrified, don't be petrified because you're coming back. We got a new shirt, guys.
Starting point is 00:41:45 And don't patronize me by missing out the point. So that's exactly what Paul's point was, and Peters, about quoting David, because what they said was, David did see decay. So he wasn't talking about himself. He was talking about somebody else. And so the somebody is Jesus, who you don't want to miss. Can you imagine the joy in that? I mean, we're kind of having fun with this. There's, of all the top joys in your life, when you come back from the dead, I mean, you're back.
Starting point is 00:42:17 You're back. It's just, hey, hey, baby. I'm back. And I'm better than ever, which is we'll really be true. I can't wait. It's an exciting thing. I'm just saying, you read over this and you're like, oh, his body didn't see decay. What are the technical aspects of that?
Starting point is 00:42:40 Wait a minute. Your body didn't see decay? As bad as this world is. Yeah. And you know what else it does? You know when you're near a putrified body, it stinks. That's it. But one day we'll smell lovely.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Lovely. to one with the aroma of death, the other the fragrance of life. So any good preacher knows you got to tell them what you're going to tell. You got to tell them what you're going to tell them. Then you tell them what you tell them. So here's his word. A lot of times preachers will say in conclusion. In verse 38, Paul's was, therefore, which means here's what this is all about.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Therefore, my brothers, I want you to know that through Jesus, the forgiveness, of sins is proclaimed to you. Now, that's interesting. He was talking about the resurrection. He was talking about his death. But now he's going to shift it into the forgiveness of sins. Through him, everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses.
Starting point is 00:43:47 That's quite the statement. Yeah, that's the one I looked up the Greek. It's like the literal word is from everything, from everything. from everything you couldn't be justified. Whatever it is. Yeah, right, whatever. And the law would never do this for you. Couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Or the animal sacrifices. I love that statement because it was very difficult for them to give up certain aspects of the Jewish traditions. Right. But he just made a blanket statement. Yeah. Whatever happened before has now been taken care of it. That's a huge statement. And it really is a comforting statement. I wouldn't receive that way by some people, but it was a comforting statement.
Starting point is 00:44:31 So then, Jay, so here's the point you made in the last podcast. He says, since he's making this proclamation, take care that what the prophets have said does not happen to you. In other words, you don't want to miss this like they did back in Habakkuk's days about Babylonia. That's why I brought up the big deal about Habakkuk, because when you read this verse, it doesn't make much sense. Right. And I'll read it for you. scoffers, wonder and perish, for I am going to do something in your days that you would never believe. Even if someone told you, he is telling you what happened.
Starting point is 00:45:04 That's right. And they're not, they're having trouble. Right. Believe in him. And it was because of that situation in Habakkuk where God was using a more evil nation to judge his chosen people. Right. So that one day he could introduce a savior to the world. And in this place, the same thing is fixed not happen to them. Jerusalem is going to be destroyed in just a few years from right here at the hands of Rome. It's the same concept. And you're like, oh, well, isn't that scary?
Starting point is 00:45:40 Well, it would be if you didn't have Jesus. Yeah. That's exactly right. Which is his point. Don't miss it. And look, it's the same point for us today. Yep. Because look, the number one conversation I hear out in the world is, man, what's happened to this country?
Starting point is 00:45:56 What are we going to do? Right. Oh, no. Well, it may be judged and it may go down. If you're outside of Jesus, it's probably going to be a struggle. Yep. If you're in Jesus, oh, well. Because it may go down by hands more evil than our evil people.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Oh. But you know what? Jesus is there. Very likely. So any preacher that preaches a sermon, he always wants to be invited back. So verse 42, as Paul and Barnabas were leaving the synagogue, the people invited them to speak further about these things on the next Sabbath. So he gets invited back. When the congregation was dismissed, many of the Jews and devout converts to Judaism, there's those Greeks again, followed Paul and Barnabas who talked to them or talk with them and urged them to continue in the grace of God.
Starting point is 00:46:45 It was kind of like that deal. They just, they wanted to hear a little bit more. Well, I noticed he said continuing the grace of God, which is the same thing that he's saying in 39. Exactly. Everyone who believes justified from everything you can not. Because you know what that meant. That meant people were saying,
Starting point is 00:47:02 are you saying, when you said that, do you mean anything? Do you mean like, what about this and what about you? They were giving them the whatabouts. You know that's what was happening. He kept saying, nope. As great as grace. is it's just very hard to accept. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It is. It is. We want to do it. We think we can somehow get our lives straight. You're reliant on the grace of God. So here's what's interesting. Here's the one I want to get to here in the last couple of minutes. On the next Sabbath, so now a week goes by on the next Sabbath, almost the whole city
Starting point is 00:47:41 gathered to hear the word of the Lord. So because of that one sermon in that synagogue, word has now gone to everybody. Remember, this is a bunch of Gentiles. Verse 45, here's that thing I was mentioning that there's always opposition. When the Jews saw the crowds, so it's not all Jews, but there's somebody that was in that synagogue the week before. When they saw the crowds, they were filled with jealousy and talked abusively against what Paul was saying.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Now, just think about that for a minute. I mean, the whole, what you said and what you talked about was so well received that the whole city shows up to hear more of the next week. And your response is, what is what is going on here? We got to, somebody's got to put a stop to this. Yeah. I mean, that was their mindset, which is, I think the same thing goes on today. It does. It's human nature and not the good human nature.
Starting point is 00:48:40 It's the bad human nature to say. see something you can't explain and try to shut it down. God is working and instead of embracing the message of God, you attack the vehicles at which the message is coming, which in this case is Paul and Barnumus. So he goes on and what he says was in verse 46, we had to speak the word of God to you first since you rejected it. So he's talking to these Jews.
Starting point is 00:49:07 We now turn to the Gentiles. So he just goes in and lays it out. For this is what the Lord has commanded. I made you a light for the Gentiles that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth. And that goes back to what Jesus said, remember, in Acts 1,9, when he left here. When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the Word of the Lord, and all who were appointed for eternal life believed. The Word of the Lord spread through the whole region, but the Jews, here's that opposition,
Starting point is 00:49:34 incited the God-fearing women of high standing and the leading men of the city. They stirred up persecution, and finally they expect. Paul and Barnabas from the region. So they shook the dust from their feet and went to Iconium and the disciples were filled with joy with the Holy Spirit. So in spite of the opposition, in spite of the difficulty, the gospel had been planted. And now you've got this church that's going to be in this place that they're going to eventually come back through and revisit.
Starting point is 00:50:01 So that gets us to the next city, which we'll talk about next time we get on the podcast. There's some interesting thing that happened. We already kind of looked ahead about them trying to make them gods. but we'll continue the journey as we go. See you next time on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to The Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube
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