Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 88 | Phil Sings AC/DC, the Funniest Things in the Bible, and the Woman of 'Crafty Intent'

Episode Date: May 13, 2020

Phil's not into current pop music, but he has no trouble belting out AC/DC lyrics during Bible study. Jase calls out Phil's cellphone hypocrisy. And the guys talk about the funniest stories and conversations in the Bible, Jesus' Sabbath controversy, preachers who tell crude jokes, making a covenant with your eyes, and the story of the young man and the adulteress in Proverbs 7. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I am unashamed. What about you? I may change that net out, because you put that net to dry it out, because that other one I got is dirty. And that's a hold on a two minute, and I got it patched, but I got that to mind. I need to put mine out.

It is the one positive in the quarantine, because everybody's been fishing. I mean, y'all've been doing some nets, so I've eaten opalusus, which I hadn't had in a while. And then, man, Jay's been catching the crappie like crazy. Oh, well, I've gone with him two or four times.

I've caught more fish. Oh, you've got your net out? Oh, yeah. You'll have an op. I mean, every time I go. There he is. I mean, I'm running with the ops. 20.

Is it 2000? You're going to run yours today? Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to get one of them. You get two of them. All right. Well, look, I tell you this. because I cleaned 20 cropy yesterday.

So if I catch one. If you have some. I'll give it to you for Father's Day. Yeah. If you have the humpback blues, which is not the big one, but if you got a few in there, that's fine. I mean, Phil, the last time I ran that, I had, I would say, 50 blues and one up. Were they the humpback blues or the bull? Well, it was whatever kind of blue you want was in there.

You know, I had eel cat, humpback, chuckle head. I'm talking about the high fan, which tends to be not big, not the bull. the lake blues. They're the darker blue. They're a little bit musty. I know exactly what you're talking about. I know which blues are better than the other blues. Are you saying?

Having that argument about that guy. We have this guy who claimed to know everything. And the guy, you know how these people, they try to impress you, they're like, oh, you're commercial fishermen, huh? You'll remember this story what I tell you. And we're like, yeah. They said, well, I'll tell you this. You know, that spoon bill, he's actually.

actually better than an op, but he's not quite as good as a blue. And look, I looked at Chase when he said that. Chase said, I always knew that guy was an idiot. I thought, no matter what you ever say for the rest of your life, I'm going to struggle to give you any credibility because you had that completely wrong. Oh, did he ever. Better than an op, not quite as good as a blue. I'm like, so, and not only that, he's describing a spoon.

bill. So if you guys aren't familiar with fish, so a spoonbill cat, he's a catfish, but he's got a big old long bill on him. I mean long. Like a boat paddle. Like a boat paddle. And he goes in. He goes in. He's an ancient fish. He goes in and he's basically rooting up mud. And then that goes through his system. So when you open up a mouth of a spoonbill cat, what does it smell like that? What's the smell? Well, here's the rule I go by. It's smell like a rancid, gray mud. Exactly. Breaking news. I'll give you a quarantine rule to live by rednecks coming by. Rednecks.

Phil? That was Dan. Look, here's the rule. If something stinks when it's alive, you don't want to eat that. That's right. If he's alive and kicking, and you're like, boy, that thing stinks. You can smell him before you get to him. You throw him back.

And that's just general knowledge, right? That should be pretty simple. When something dies, it stinks. Okay, I'll give you that. But if it's stinking alive, no. No. A Spoonbill catfish has no bones, not one bone. All cartilage.

See, that's the evidence I say that there's a god on these little details about life. Now, how in the world did that happen? There's not one bone. And look, and what I like about it, which is because it's kind of a trick, because you think, oh, that would be an awesome fish to eat. Nope. Nope. You see what I mean?

It's already filetate. Yeah. They claim they're on the endangered list, but they are millions of pounds in this river. So I don't know who came up of that. Well, aren't they, isn't their eggs like a delicacy people? Caviar. They eat them as a vert. I think it's a poor man's caviar.

Yeah, it's a poor man's caviar. I looked at it. Have you ever tried caviar? Yeah, I have. Do you like it? I mean, no. It's salty. It's too salty.

I don't know. And look, by the way, you said, well, how did I try caviar? Because I was with Willie. and he said I'm buying let me try some caviar I was like I will if you will and you pay for it you pan of four hundred dollars for a spoon of fish eggs no I'm out on that it's a racket yeah I mean yeah it just wasn't that good well then I tasted it though they just put some salt I guess it's an acquired taste fish eggs but I don't eggs just doesn't understand I like a chicken egg texture of fish eggs yeah yeah it's probably the thought of a little much so I so I'm

riding out here. It's about a 30-minute drive when Jason had come out to this is where we grew up, but we live in town. You need to slow down. It takes me 40. Oh, no. I drove it like I did when I was 16. I used to do Tokyo Drift before Tokyo Drift was cool out here. They're going to get you. I know. But that's what you were famous now. We'll be fine. So anyway, so I listen to different, and I like different genres of music because you're kind of like all worship these days. I went all worship two years ago. Which I like that because it was a good way to – I did the – I do a lot of worship, too, and you learn a lot of the songs. But I still get a hankering for some other kind of music. So today was 70s day. You know, there's a satellite radio. There's a thing called 70s on 7. So it's just everything is from the era of 1970 to 1979, every song that you hear.

And I was listening to that today coming out here, and I was thinking, of course, I guess everybody thinks that their era of music, kind of their coming-of-age era is the best. I mean, I assume that. I don't. Well, except for Jays. What was your, well, you were 80s would be your? I don't know. I can't match the numbers. No, I'm kind of a Leonard Skinnerd.

Well, that's not the 70s and 80s. Wasn't it? So, but I was thinking about. Greedis Clearwater. So same at CCR. Oh, no. When was, when was it? Bad, 60s mostly.

70s, you know, today, here's the line of, so listen to this. So Linda Ronstadt. she had some these are the songs of her coming out Linda Ronstadt Queen Chicago Eagles

and then the last one which was one of my favorites was the Commodores singing Brick House which is just I mean I'm about to jump out of the truck it's so good but I thought

you talk about an era she's a brick wow oh yeah I've always said I mean that was an era I hated their politics I said but they were the greatest

guitar pickers of all time that group. Yeah. Late 60s, 70s. Early 70s. I think. And I heard, you know, you like that music. So obviously we all, that's what we grew up with, you know, the late 60s, early 70s.

But, I mean, I just thought about what an era of music. You know, now music seems kind of the same. It's just, you know, I don't know. It's not that good to me. But my, like, my daughter, the song she's listened to, I've never heard. You know what I mean? She's like listening to song. But, so, I mean, it's just.

What does she like is popular music? I mean, just. I have no description for this. You don't really know genre. It seemed kind of a beep-bop-y computerized type music. You know, little small gangs of young people singing it. I'm assuming they're dancing around. I sell them, listen to any modern.

Well, you remember, Dad, when we were doing your book tour, some guys, some young guys. So their idea was, and it was funny, I have to say, because at first I wasn't sure. I thought, uh-oh. So we want your dad to listen to this music. Like they had music videos and they were modern music. Do you remember doing that? So dad had his earphones. And he's watching this video.

He's listening to music. So they start the first one. And I had never heard of these people. That's like, yeah, cut it, cut it. He said, do I have to, how long do I have to listen? So I'm laughing so hard because I'm sitting here off camera. And they basically did about four or five modern. singers. Of course, Dad was like, I mean, I'm looking at this. All I say is butts and boobs,

you know. Really? Yeah. Oh, it's just, I mean, I don't know where did people watch. There were these chicks that were saying. Jirated. I get the idea. The gyrations and all that, but it was pitiful. I have a rule. When someone like, hands, it actually worked out. They took advantage of my generation. They say, watch this or look at. I never look at. When there's someone, you know, they're just, hey, look, let me show you something. I was like, is it a video? Yeah. yeah, let me. It's funny. I'm like, I don't want to see that. Because I don't want to get in that situation. So I just offend them.

Well, it was funny because it was a great idea. And these were all young guys. And so they knew. They said, watching Phil Robertson react to modern music videos will be funny. And they were right. It was very funny. And the stuff dad was saying, you know, and I was laughing so hard. It was like being on the podcast. Jason on the cell phone, I never had to chunk a cell phone. I just observed others who had them.

And I'm like, no. I said, that's too, too, they're attached to it too strongly. I mean, a lot of your principles are based on truth and good things, but you go too far because the hypocrisy is when you need to get a hold to somebody, you are like, who has a phone? Plus, there's a lot of them now. I'm like, what happened if there's no phone? And most people right now are listening to us probably are watching the cell. A lot of them are on the phone.

So I'm not telling everybody to get rid of their cell. phone. I'm just saying, I never had one. You remember the day you are our your show is on the internet. We had an argument one morning because they were like telling me where Northwest was and because it's always been there. Well, I get out my phone and I got him and sigh over there. I got a compass on my phone. And they're like, no, well, that's on your phone. I mean, how do you know that's right? See, it was like, because it was on the phone, it's technically on damaged, evil influence. It's false. So now we're arguing with the compass.

It's fruit from the poisonous tree. Because it's not hanging around their neck with the little ball. You know what I mean? Floating into fluid. I'm like, no, it, this, they got it figured out. This is it. It's a compass on the phone. GPS, yes.

Didn't believe it. So I said, no. I wouldn't believe that. You follow that. You'll be in the Gulf of Mexico. Well, so you'll love this story. There was a, there was a guy a few years ago. I went out and spoke at Camp Chioca.

which stands for Christian youth camp always get that Chi Yoca which is funny because it's camp Chiyoka so it's camp Christian youth camp which is kind of redundant. I have a confession. I didn't know that represented that for the first 30 years. Really recently. I think it was some kind of Indian. I thought it was an Indian name because we live on the Washington River. I didn't know it till right now. Chioka.

Dad just learned that. I just learned Christian youth camp. Who would even think of such a thing? I was pretty smart, though. I mean, what's a weird name? One of them subdivision girls. So anyway, I'm at Campioga, and I'm speaking. Lisa and I actually were speaking.

We're doing our testimony. And so, you know, you're trying to, you talk about some of the things you did that were wrong when you were a teenager. You're trying to convince these teenagers, don't go down this road. This is a bad deal. This is, this is, we're trying to teach you something. Well, there was a young guy there. And at the, it once it was old. over. He came up to, he said, hey, could I talk to you? I said, sure. So we went down and sat under

a tree because Jason knows we worked at camp for years. You were a camper. Yeah, it's all a special place. It is. And it's really good because you sort of cut the noise off. And I was that money you said about the phones because now, you know, you got to turn your phone in when you get there. I mean, Willie runs it now. Oh, yeah. John Lou. Lou. Did he buy it? No, it's a board that runs it. But it's a really great. Well, Willie's out there all the time. Oh, yeah, John Luke fixing it. They claim he's re-re- Oh, it looks.

You wouldn't even recognize it, the work they'd be. Well, ever, you know, 40 or 50 years, you might ought to do a little up to. Well, it's 60 years old. That's right. So anyway, but the spiritual environment's always been great because you're taking kids like out of the rat race world and you put them out in the middle of the woods and you teach them the Bible. And so it's amazing what happens over the course of a week.

They kind of come in like typical teenagers. By the end of the week, they're singing songs and they're crying. You just get it. You adapt to your surroundings. You do. You take the cell phones away and all that, and they have to go through the 24-hour, you know. Withdraw.

Their hands are shaking. I see them at my house all the time. They walk up there. I'm like, it's still there. And they're just, I want to see the phone. So this kid, this kid named Trace, at the time he was 18 years old.

And he starts telling me his story. And it was amazing because his parents, They were from Kansas, and they were fans of the show. This is years ago. The show was really still going on really hot. So they wanted to come down because Sadie was going to be there and Reed and Cole and, you know, our kids were going to be a camp. So that was the draw. So his sister, who was, I think a couple years younger than him, really wanted to come.

And so he thought they were just bringing her down to drop her off. And he was coming with him. What they didn't know is his parents had packed him a bag. He had just, you're going tea. Yeah, he had graduated high school. He didn't know they packed him a bag, so they get down there. It's like, okay. And then they're like, all right, well, we'll see y'all, you know, next week when we come back to pick up.

He's like, what do you mean, y'all? I'm not going anywhere. I mean, I'm not staying here. They're like, oh, yeah, you're staying here. You know, because he had been living a terrible life. He was a prodigal son. And he came to the Lord from it. What he did.

And so anyway, so he said the first thing they took up the phone. And it was like, he was like, I mean, he was. livid, you know, he was like, what kind of deal? So literally, they left out of the thing. He's just standing there in front of the mess hall, like, Mom and Dad are waving by with his little brothers. I kind of like the idea. They were at their ropes in.

So here's what's interesting. So what happens. So what happens is, he's there. First day, he's just mad as a hornet, you know. But what are they going to do? Just walk out and leave him. He didn't have a rig. He can't drive anywhere.

They took his phone. So first day, he's just mad. man. Second day he said I started kind of listening a little bit, you know, and I thought, well, I could be worse, you know, places. And by day three, he's kind of softening to that. He said, well, you know, the Robertsons are here. And he got to meet Sadie and, you know, Reed. So now he's kind of warming up. So I come into the picture about day four. And Lisa and I share our story. Well, of course, he loves the Robertsons. That's why they came down here. We share our story. Well, my story is his story. I mean, I was where he was at the same age. except nobody left me at Camp Chioca. So we do our story. But now I see him. He's shredded. I mean,

like his heart is open. And so he tells me his story. And I said, well, let me tell you the story that changed me, you know, because I'd already done it, but we went through it again.

So this is like day four at camp. Well, the last day of camp, he gets somebody to call me. And they said, hey, Trace is going to get baptized at camp. And he wanted you to come out.

And I said, man, I'd love to, you know, because we'd had that conversation. So his life, changed in one week. And so we became friends after that and I stayed in contact. So he gets back home, and this story is in our Bible, by the way, Dad. So he gets back home to Kansas and he says, you know, this phone is the bane of my existence. I mean, everybody, everything about it has not

been good for me spiritually. And he didn't realize it until they didn't have it for a week. So he went out back. And I guess it would be because of us, our influence. And he threw it up in the air and he shot it with a shotgun. Now, that's impressive. I'm not easily impressed. That's what he did. Now, there's a repentant man. That's right.

He shot his phone with his shotgun. It is a way of saying, my life has changed. So here's the end of the story. The rest of the story is that about maybe six months later, he's a Kansas boy, he moved down here to West Monroe, and he went to work for Duck Commander. With old Stone back there putting Duck House. Really? Work for us for about.

two years and now he's a mechanic. He's a diesel mechanic. That's what he learned growing up on a farm. And now he works for Nice Wenger's company up there. He's running. He got married. I did his wedding. He's still around. He's still here. What you probably don't know is when he worked at Duck Commander, he asked me to kind of disciple him, you know? And so I've had many a Bible study with him. So he sent me a text. As soon as the coronavirus deal hits, you know, the church is everything. We're not able to meet and all that. So he sent me a a text. He said, you know, I just wanted you to know that me and Shay, he just got married a few months ago. He said, me and Shay, you know, we're young and healthy. And we want to volunteer for any

older people in the church that don't want to get out. We'll go fight the crowds. We'll go to the grocery store. We'll go to the thing. And so that's what they've been doing. He and his little young wife. So you talk about, I mean, that's a life change story. But I thought about it because I thought about the telephone. That's good because Ms. Kay just talked to one of the sisters and her husband is at the beginning stages of Alzheimer's. So Ms. Kay just called her up out of the blue, and the sister gave Ms. Kay that information, but she basically needs little help. I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, we got them.

Yeah. They're, there. Don't let me forget that. We, when we talk to Ms. Kaye. And then we have a few other volunteers, too, which is really neat to see how people kind of pull things out. It really is.

When you need to. So, and so we're in John 5 today. We're finally getting back to our text. And we've been talking about, of course, that we, the guy got he that was at the pool, you remember? He was a paralytic. And so Jesus heals him. And then the last time we talked about this, we talked about that there were two issues from some of the people there.

One is Jesus told the man to pick up his mat and walk. That was the way he healed him. He said, pick up your mat. Get out of here. And he did. He did what he was told. And all of a sudden, in 38 years, he's been an invalid. Now he's hopping and skipping and jumping.

But Jesus slipped away, kind of his little Jedi, you know, way he did things back in that day. Teleporting and thinking is the way he was. Slipping into the crowd. Described it. So anyway, so the people were there on this guy. They're like, well, who told you to pick up your mat? You talk about Mr. Forrest of the Tree. Who told you to pick the mat up?

He was like, well, I don't know. Just some guy. The man who ill me. The man who ill me, you know. And so Jesus sees him. later, and I think this is where we left off last time, Jason, I'm not sure. Yeah, we were along in there. I mean, we've referenced some of this.

He says, see, your well again. Then he says, stop sending or something worse may have. I mean, we talked about that. But then what that leads to is Jesus now having an argument with these people about the Sabbath, which is crazy because they kind of missed the whole point. Yeah, actually, it says the man that was healed didn't even know who Jesus was. Didn't know he was. Didn't know what he was for Jesus had slipped away.

So it wasn't like the man that healed me, told me. He just said, I don't know who he was. Well, I had just introduced the idea that he was basically, since they were accusing him of working on the Sabbath. Right. He then, because I never hear people bring this up. He then got into what he does in 16 and 17 when he says, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath that Jesus persecuted him, which was the ugly portion of this. how would you like to persecute the son of God?

I mean, Jesus said to him, my father is always at his work to this very day. And I, too, am working because it was the Sabbath day. Because he was going back to Genesis 2. And they're like, what? Because they don't realize this is the son of God. Hey, we wrote the idea of the Sabbath. But you've missed it.

We're working. in which to bring back to the phone issue, you know, think about how many verses you can Google it, I'm sure, where it says the Lord calls you, which is, you know, when you think of call, somebody's calling you, you think of a phone. But in actually, in actuality, that's what he's doing, that he's working every day 24-7 calling people to him. Well, and they missed the point that Jesus makes, because you remember one of the other the Gospels, he says, you don't understand the Sabbath. The Sabbath was created for man,

not man for the Sabbath. In other words, he was, where's that at? I'll say one of the other gospels. Yeah, it's good. That's a great way to look at because think about it. He was saying, look, I, God, the creator, which by the way, that was the real problem here. He was comparing himself to God. That's what the text says here. He said, I created the Sabbath as a rest day for you. This was, for your benefit. But now you've turned around and made that into law like as if you can't even help somebody.

And he went into that about how that the idea was, you know, one of you says if you're, what do you say if your ox falls in a ditch, you got to get him out of there. Mark T-27. Yeah, there you go. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Which was a great principle. Yeah. Because what he was saying was, you're right, Jay's, I created everything.

but then I still sustain everything. So you can't, God couldn't quit working. It's just funny to me. He's like, I'm working right now. That's right. They didn't get it. No, they didn't get it. There's a lot of humor in the Bible that it has to be.

It was written for our humor. That's right. Miles did it. Because they were like, you're working. We're having a conversation here. He's like, yeah, because he's calling them. See, I thought it was hilarious when he tells the guy, oh, I see you're still well. I mean, that's funny to me.

That was a sarcastic, like, of course he's still, you just healed it. I also think it's kind of humorous when he's like, stop sinning or something worse that's going to happen to you. Worse than being an invalid for 38 years. You think, well, you don't think that's funny, but it kind of is. It is. You know what I mean? He's like, you thought that invalid 38 years was bad? I have to have a little bit of sarcasm.

It's one of my love. I think the funniest has nothing to do with this. But to me, the funniest thing in the Bible is when the guy was the demon, this person was hollering behind who was it paul and silas yeah it was a it was a girl yeah it was a woman it was a girl member of a slave the whole conversation is funny and then when they get down to the end it's like paul i because somebody uh simon tried to cast out the demon he wanted the power you know and they said paul i know no what was the exact phrase it's jesus i know and paula know but who Oh, that's the Sons of Sceiva.

Yeah, the sons of... Yeah, the sons... You've got two different stories. Okay. That's two different stories. Well, I know it just popped into my head, but it is... Now we've got to go find it. It's a funny story.

The Sons of Sceiva story was there was a guy who was saying he was casting out demons. And so then a guy had a demon. And so this guy... Acts 19. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Let's read this story.

It's hilarious. It is funny. but it reminded me that 11th I mean 19 11 13 or 14 13 or 14 okay some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits that's it was yeah they tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon possessed so they're not they're Jewish they haven't they're not converted but they're trying to use Jesus's name they would say in the name of the name of Jesus Jesus whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out. Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. One day, the evil spirit answered them, Jesus, I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you? Which is never good when a demon of treasures. Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all, all seven of them.

He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding. You need to preach on that. If you can't preach on that, something's wrong. Oh, that's right. You know what I mean? You're out there trying to do, you know, the Lord's work and you're not, your heart's not in it. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of underlying principles there. But, you know, I took it quite literally, too, Jace, because you can imagine all the years I've been in ministry. I mean, I've had people ask me to come throw out demons. but I've always been aware of that text and thought, you know, I'm not, I mean, I know the power of Jesus can do anything, but I really don't play around much with the spiritual realm of taking that I can do that. I guess if you were confident and you just knew this is what God had called me to do. I've seen, but I thought about that verse.

I thought I go down there. Look, you already know by their name. They thought they were something. I mean, think of that name. My name is seven sons of Skiva. And demons like. They were playing. They weren't converted, but they were playing like they had the power over the demoniacs. Yeah.

And which that's a, that's a bad line you're running on there. Well, you know, I'm always, yeah. I'm sorry of the spirit world. I am too. And, you know, even you have the verse in Jude where it says you shouldn't even, you know, joke about or we get that inference, you know what I mean? And he's like, no, we don't do that. That's right. Even the evil one, that's right. I've run up on this type situation before, but I just stick with pouring them to Jesus, pouring them to God loves them through Jesus.

He's died for you. He'll resurrect you from the dead. And I just wade through the cursing I'm taking at the time. You know, I've had them just cursing and care of it. If you'll calm down, I'll tell you, got some good news here. But it's also the point that is not about us either. Most people, I mean, they obviously, the underlying theme is they were taking credit. You know, if I speak or in somebody, well, that was really good, I always go.

I say, well, I got, look what I'm speaking from. I mean, I appreciate it. But I have the greatest manual ever. Right. So. Yeah, because it goes itself. Let's take a quick break. You're right.

So I've always had the mindset, Jays, that I, you know, I, you know, I, don't like, I don't take praise or criticism too personal. I mean, if somebody doesn't like something, okay, sometimes I'm probably should be preaching stuff you don't like, because maybe that's the Almighty. But even, even Jesus from his human side, you see hints of that. Right. I remember, you know, having an argument about this verse when Jesus in 41 of chapter 5, when he said, I do not accept praise from men. Right. You know, and you think, well, why? I would think he did. Because you worship him, right?

Well, right. Remember the time when he ran upon the rich young ruler and he's like, good teacher? And he's like, why do you call me good? Nobody's good, but God alone. You're like, well, what principle do you think he was trying to share with there? He was basically saying, it's not so much about me, but who I'm representing, even though that is me, but, you know, that's hard to explain.

which is that's why they're having the same problem with the Sabbath because he's like, yeah, I wrote that, I'm working now, and it's the Sabbath. I'm trying to save your sorry hides. He didn't say it like that, but that's kind of the impression. Well, and that's what I'm saying is I've met through the years a lot of really inflated pastors and church leaders who think of themselves more highly than they ought, as Paul would put it. So, I mean, that's why I never wanted. to be like that. I mean, look, I'm never as good as some people think I am. I'm never as bad as

others do. You just got a job to do. I mean, I'm called to do something, and so that's what you do. And we were trained, Jason and I were trained to make a mag lad or sad. And really that's what it's really not about us. I mean, we keep hammering on this. You know, we've been crucified. And I've had so many discussions about people saying, well, you know, I just don't know what the Lord wants me to do, and I'm trying to find what, you know, what the Lord wants me to do in this situation. And I'm trying to figure out how to give my testimony. And it's just one question after another with that same theme. And I'm like, I thought you died. This ain't about you anymore. You know, our purpose is to allow God to use us to share Jesus. I mean, we're just

get to be along. That is the part. We all have the same purpose. He said a couple things. In different ways. He said a couple of things. One of them is if everybody loves you, that's the way they did the false prophets. Yeah. And he went on to say, blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you, when they insult you, and when they reject your name is evil because of me. What he was saying is a person really doesn't understand the work of God until some hatred comes his way and some insults.

and you say, hmm, what that's showing you is you're beginning to get into the battle here. That's right. You're making a difference. This is not going to be easy. I mean, if you think so, you'll never be persecuted. You are on the wrong, wrong train. But you know how it is. You will be persecuted.

People think that some people just think they're closer to God, you know. That's right. That's right. They get behind this religious. system and they you know like this the guy we read about the seven he was a high priest you know the seven sons of skeeva and then some demon got a hoot of him and you know beat the crap at it exactly whatever i mean he's like okay jesus you will and the fact there's the fact that that story is in the bible i mean well would it be in there that's exactly right well you quoted romans

you know where it says don't think of yourself more highly than you all i mean that's a bible verse there's not a saying that's in the bible for a reason but i also brought up that 41 because a lot of people and you and I in the theological world have been involved in arguments about because some religious educated people they don't like it when people pray to Jesus you know because they use this first as an example right they're like you pray to God in Jesus name but here's what I want to say about that even though Jesus did say that I do not accept the praise for men I'm not with these people who made a fundamental doctrine on that because now you're trying to put the

godhead into your feeble brain at odds with each yeah and like oh well wait a minute let me Jesus cover your ears because i'm going to talk to god the father right now these these beings which we introduced in the last podcast they're eternal they're all powerful they're omnipresent they're everywhere they're all knowing you know i've said many times they use matthew 11th you say, what does it mean to be all-knowing? That means you know what would happen if something that didn't happen, happen. That's right. You're like, wait a minute, back up the tape.

You don't hear that too often from C-plus minds. Well, just think about it. You're like, oh, he knows, you know, God knows what's going to happen, and he knows what happened and what will happen. No, it's deeper than that because you're trying to understand it in your mind. that won't work. He knows what would have happened if something that didn't happen, happen. You're like, alternate reality, yeah.

He makes a reference there when he runs up on that city and he says, if y'all would have heard the same message they had, you were repented a long time ago. That's where I'm getting that from. And I'm like, we just take that for granted. He knows something that would have happened that didn't happen, but he's like, if it would have happened, this is what would have happened.

Well, that's why he makes those little things that we sing songs about, but we don't understand the reality of when he says, you know, I know I have the numbers of your hair on your head, numbered. Well, we just take that for granted. Nothing is going to get by me. Yeah. We're like, well, he was just kidding. No, he wasn't kidding.

He'd give you an actual number. You know, you guess the marbles in the jar. You just think of the things we can do in heaven, Al. I can guess how many hair. are on your head. And what I lost this morning, you know, in the shower. So, but if you imagine God being outside of time and space, which is what you're describing by all those words, omnivotent, unniscient, you know, omnipresent, he's

looking at everything from our perspective that's happened or will happen, but he's looking at all of it at the same time. He's outside. That's right. That's why he didn't, he wasn't saying, I don't accept praise for men like, don't praise me. Well, that wasn't his point. He was trying to introduce them to the father.

We see a glimpse of it from things we invent. We made in God's image. And we make things like computers. Well, you just think of the information, the storage of information, and where that's brought us in the last 30 years. You're like, boy, that happened quickly. Just think of the information that is poured into a computer. And you say, man, what a device.

but the one who gave you the ability to store information, just think what he knows. That's right. I mean, look what we've done as feeble human beings, Al, and just the information age, as I guess we ought to call it. So let's take another break. And you're right, Dad, you know, it's even rebooted great franchises like Star Trek. I'm a Star Trek fan.

So they were trying to figure out how were they, how can they tell the story some people had died and actors are no longer there? so they went alternate reality. Somebody travels in time, changes everything. So the future, therefore, was changed. So now we got new actors playing. So you what I'm saying? I mean, but that comes from your...

You're beginning to show that God created you. That's right, because where would you come up with that? That's correct. How could you imagine that? Because it all comes from this basis. That's why I've said that. You know, I offended every Hollywood person that worked with us because I was like, you know, you get all this out of the Bible.

And they're like, what? You know, I was like Leviathan, you know, somebody come out with a movie, Bihamoth and, you know, all these creature, maybe. I was like, that's in the Bible. They're like, that's in the Bible? I'm like, yeah, it all wraps around good and evil. And the idea, that's why I always do this with these products, you know, that they sell. Because they're selling godly principle or they're trying to get your money,

but it has nothing to do with what they're selling. Yeah, the old rock and roll song, highway to hell somebody says yeah that's a psalmist was talking about when you go down with the adulterous woman no in proverb 7 yeah proverb he said what you're talking about there's right you said with one of them guys

one of them musicians read that said good a night we make a song on that wouldn't that isn't that isn't judas priest is that he seems that or it's who does highway to hell no that's ACDC I think that no look Phil I have I have

I have read that story to more people. Or have you? Teenagers. Well, yeah, Proverbs 7, because people don't think that's in the Bible. I mean, it's quite the story. I mean, I'd like to reference it if I could. But he was warning against the adulterous, and he said, like in Proverbs 7, 6,

it says, at the window, speaking of humorous stories, that's really not, he said, out the window of my house, I looked through the lattice, and I noticed a simple man who lacked judgment. So he was immature. He was going down the street near her corner, walking along in the direction of her house at twilight as the day was fading as the dark of night set in. And you said, what does that mean? Oh, he was acting like he was just taking a walk, you know, about dark. But he was headed in that direction.

Then out came a woman to meet him, dressed like a prostitute. Of course. Wasn't a prostitute, but she's dressed like one. And now he's happened to be going in that directions. It's a common sense story. You're like, oh, I see where this was going. And then she says, oh, and with crafty intent. And then it says she took hold of him and kissed him.

And with a brazen face, she said, I have fellowship offerings at home. That sounds so, ooh. You said, what's the point? coming to my house, have fellowship offerings. Of course. So I came out to meet you, I look for you,

and I have found you. I have covered my bed with all these fancy sheets from Egypt. It doesn't say that, but colored linens from Egypt. I have perfume my bed with all these different perfume. Come, let's drink deep of love till morning. Let's enjoy ourselves with love. So right now is the touchy-feely part of the song.

He was headed down there. romance. I got a perfume bed. I got linen. Let's, you know, let's drink of love. That means let's have sex. But they're all, they're playing a game. But then she says this statement, my husband is not home. Now, once she said that, that dude should have taken off. Because then that, that context leads to the end, which is where the ACDC song comes in. Because now, I was wondering when you were going to get to ACD. All at once, he followed her like an ox going to the slaughter. Uh-oh, this little love story, we got an ox getting his head cut off.

Before, like a deer stepping into a noose till an arrow pierces his liver. Oh, gross. Like a bird darting into a snare, little knowing it will cost him his life. Then when the ACDC part got to this, he said, oh, yeah, many are the victims. She has brought down her slain or a mighty throne. her house is a highway to hell. So he's like, I'm on the highway to hell. Yeah.

That's a bad highway. And I listen to that song and said, yeah, tell me about it. But isn't that funny, that is where that came from? That's exactly where it came from. So now you know. So it sparked in my mind, Jay, something Job said. This is Job 31 in verse 9. By the way, Job 31 is one of the greatest chapters in the Bible about

a character, what a man's character should look like. Here's what Job said. Now, this guy's ancient. You know, he's back in the day where you didn't see anything but ankles and eyeballs, you know, women's were covered up. But he starts off by saying, I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a girl. A covenant with my eyes.

Which is really powerful to me. It really is. Every Christian man at some point has to do that. That's right. You can't just say, well, people need to cover up. No, you make the covenant. You make it first. And you're assuming they're going to, because in this day and age, they were covered up.

And he still had to make the good. But here's what he said, Jay's. And I thought about that verse and you're reading it. In verse 90, he said, if my heart has been enticed by a woman or if I have lurked at my neighbor's door, then may my wife grind another man's grain. You know, that phrase is always stuck out to be, who wants your wife grinding up some other man's grain and may other men sleep with her? So in other words, what he's saying is, if I'm going to go down that road, then we're going to go down that road, why wouldn't my wife just be the same thing? No, no man wants that.

So, so why would I be lurking at my neighbor's door, you know, or taking that stroll? I mean, we're all men here. You're around me. The amount of crude jokes and just about, oh, it's ridiculous. And about unfavor. I remember I had a, we were, I was on a retreat and we stopped at a store. I mean, there's preachers and the preacher. There was a woman walked in front of us with crafty intent.

You know what I mean? She wasn't dressed for the church social. But he made a comment. And like, I forgot exactly what he said, but it was something that a preacher shouldn't be saying. I read anybody, yeah. Yeah. And I said, highway to hell. But he was looking at me like, I can't believe you just said hell.

You know what I mean? I was thinking, yeah, well, I can't believe you. I didn't say it. But I just thought, I think he got the message. America always, by the way, just a little afterthought there, always presents. these wicked men who are always praying on the women, it seldom mentions this woman. Yeah.

It works. Crafty intent. It works both ways. Let's take one last break. Yeah, it goes both ways, Dad. You're exactly right. And you see both in the scripture. Well, the reason you brought up,

I thought it was good you brought up, I made a covenant with my eyes, is because, look, if you're walking toward her house about dark, it's too late. Because once she comes out with crafty and, tent talking about, oh, I got a smelly bed with some nice colored cheats. Yeah. You said, I mean, once you headed down that direct, you know where you're going, but you know, I don't know, I was taking a walk. I didn't know. She came out. I've talked to them. They said, well, you know, I was just down there. What happened? Well, he said, next thing I know. I said, hold it right down.

The next thing I know. I said, well, you drive in a vehicle? He said, yeah. I said, so you were stopping the stop signs and red lights and you took the right and a left. I said, you drove up there. Next thing I know. And now you're telling me, next thing you know. I said, you drove up there. Yeah. Once you get to next thing I know, you're gone. Here's the one I park up.

You know, we're on the couch and we first is denial, denial, denial. I didn't do it. I didn't, wasn't there, you know. Finally we, you know, get it broken down, tears are flowing. Well, I slipped. And I'm like, no, wait a minute. This wasn't a slip. Slip is when the floor's wet, you know what I mean.

And you don't. You, this ain't a slip. You got in your vehicle. You planned it. Drove over it. There's no slipping. You're driving. This was a premeditated path.

That was like driving to the water slide and getting on it and saying, you know what? I just slipped down the slide. The only slip that's going on is you're slipping out of your bridges. You're at a water park. I just looked up and I didn't have any bridges on. I don't know what happened. So I'm like, this is a sin that you need. need to own and that you can be forgiven of and God has poured his grace out.

But don't try to make it like, oh, I didn't know what happened, you know. I always bring that up about when I would share in the prison because it was always a slip. It was never my idea. It's not by fault. It wasn't my fault, you know. I mean, the guy just, you know, he said one thing, I did another. That's right. I wanted to finish the chapter up because he repeated the same thing, which is where he started.

And by the way, the whole thing is about testimony. That's the framework he puts it in. He talks about all these different people that had testimony about him. I'm talking about Jesus. And I'm glad you said that because I want people when people say, I share my testimony, I'm working on my testimony. We share God's testimony. That was Jesus's whole point here.

And they have put their faith and trust in Moses, which was fine. He was a great man. But now that philosophy has led them to the one Moses was writing about. And he tried to come at it from the scriptures first. And then he like, okay, well, they have the relationship with Moses. So he says in verse 45, but do not think I'll accuse you before the father. Your accuser is Moses on whom your hopes are set. If you believe Moses, you would believe me.

For he wrote about me. I'm the guy he was referring to. But since you do not believe what he was? wrote, how are you going to believe what I say? I mean, Jesus just had such a clever way of saying things that make you think, what did he just say? He said, the one that God said, there's going to be a prophet like me, follow him. He said, remember when Moses said that? He said, he's talking about me. Can you imagine what they were looking? They were thinking, dude. And by the way, the man who said that did a little powwow with Moses and Elijah,

to transfigured on a mountain. Yeah. I mean, he can back it up by saying Moses was there because they're like, we just have a amount of time. You remember Moses? Check us out. And he's up there talking to it. Speaking of funny moments in the Bible, Peter's, Peter's commentary during that. It was the funniest thing here.

Boy, this is a good thing that we're here all to get. Should I build a shelter? This feels like a church building situation here. But I wanted to say if you read Hebrews 3, the first six verses, it then talks about this, why Jesus is greater than Moses. And he gets down, I've used this in a lot of my speeches, because it says every house is built by someone, verse 4, but God is a build of everything.

And he said, Moses was faithful as a servant in God's house. That was Jesus's point. Moses had the same faith you all have today. But then he gets down to the end, which is our point about the Bible and the law points to Jesus. Correct. He says, but Christ is faithful as a son over God's house, and we are his house if we hold to our courage and the hope of which we boast. That's why it's not about our testimony.

We house Jesus. They're squeezed in between. Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself. For every house, for every house is built by someone, but God's the builder of everything. That's what they miss. That's what they miss right there. You got everything. You got evidence of God there because you see a house.

What? You know somebody built it. What if you didn't see somebody build it? Oh, no, they built it. We see the design. You have the evidence, and then you have the evidence that the builder is a lot more awesome than any other human being. Yep. So next time we come back.

to John. We'll hit two more of those signs we've been talking about that are coming up next. Good stuff. I hope you're reading with us. A lot of you have been telling me you've been studying the book of John. You're reading through it. Man, there's not probably a better study in the Bible. Everybody who comes to Jesus, the first book I always recommend, read the book of John. Because it focuses on Christ. Tell you who Jesus is. There you go. So we're so glad you guys were with us today, you can subscribe on iTunes or Spotify or YouTube or Facebook, and be sure and rate us on iTunes so that other people can know about the podcast.