Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 885 | Jase Is Astonished by What Dr. Oz Says About Uncle Si & Willie Suffers a Tea Accident

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

The Robertsons’ relationship with iced tea is full of ups and downs, from Willie being scarred for life to Uncle Si being called the healthiest Robertson by Dr. Oz because of his famous tea consumption. Missy comes up with a great idea to both treat the Mia Moo families to a family movie and help her new friends the Smallbones. Jase is proud of Zach’s son for solving a family mystery using his metal detector, and Phil is excited to finally get underway with Acts 16. The guys read and examine the biblical account of Paul and Silas’ imprisonment and conversion of their jailers in a spectacular way. In this episode: Acts 4, verse 12; Acts 16 -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we've still been laughing in between doing our podcast about Jay's baseball story. I'm sure people will go and look that up. Zach already did. He was watching it where he's at. But it's funny because I didn't have time to tell the story because we ran out of time on the last podcast. But I was watching the game a few weeks ago.

I'm a Dodger fan. watching the Dodgers play. And there was a guy out on left field and he caught a home run ball. But it was from the other team. And so, like, you know, this started back with the Cubs years ago. Like, so the fans start yelling for you to throw the ball back, you know, who you're not supposed to keep one from the other side, you know. And so it was funny.

So he catches it. Of course, the camera's on him. And then you see him on camera, but none of the people around him noticed it. He reaches in his pocket. He still got the ball he called in his glove. He reaches in his pocket, pulls out another ball, and then throws it out onto the field. And the fans go wild.

And, you know, he thought he had gotten away with it, but the camera caught him. I thought the same thing about this guy, and if you weren't with us in the last podcast, this was an LSU game and a meaningless game because they've had a rough year playing next. It was a midweek game. It's already six to nothing.

It's in the eighth inning. And, you know, Tommy Tank's hits his, home run and this guy when you just start thinking about the back story because that became the story the game's over they showed this guy literally for the next 30 minutes doing all kind of weird because one you were worried about him I mean this could kill him the exit 109 miles an hour yeah and it was still on the rise it was just a vicious home run and so but you think about this guy He positioned himself as buddy, his family, in the left corner bleachers. He brought his glove.

He wanted this moment. He had a-anticipating. He had a dream. If I could catch a home run ball at LSU game, that would be all I need. And here's the moment. You have it. And instead of catching the ball, you take it off the noggin, bounces out of the stadium.

and then it's such a vicious hit that you're concerned about him and he becomes the most famous person at the field and we'll go down in infamy because if you hadn't seen it it's only funny now that he's okay and the way he was acting about it and just the way the media just knew this you couldn't have picked a more perfect guy to have a story and that was the story with this guy in the dodger game because they sent buster was it in buster only he went out and interview interviewed him. And of course, they keep going back to this guy. And he said, so they're asked him, and he's a Hispanic guy. And he was pretty funny and engaging. I mean, you think, this guy is out in the stands. They said, well, obviously, you came prepared. He said, oh, yeah, I don't like getting booed. He said, he likes to get booed. And then he said, but my wife's going to be mad at me about something. And they were, and so they're interviewed. These are the guys in the booth. They said, why is your wife going to be mad? And he said, we don't have enough time. I thought this guy is on national television being interviewed by these guys in the thing

And that's a funny lie But it's like the guy for the Cubs who caught the foul ball in the World Series Oh the what's his I don't remember Brinkman look it up Somebody look it up Bartman Bartman that became the most famous foul ball I had to move he had to move out of the state of Illinois That's what I was going to say he had to move because he thought oh I caught a foul ball and now the city wants to hurt you because you cost us he was getting death threats

and it's well the people were even believing in since it was fan interference because it wasn't a foul ball yeah it cost them a chance to win the game exactly and then they're like oh it's just a curse you know we're curse we'll never win the ghost or whatever eventually they did didn't they yeah they won they won they won 16 so much for any other gods where bartman hopefully can get his lap back together. I don't know, but things happen. They do. Zach, you were going to say something. Well, I was thinking about my son, you'd be proud of him, Jace. We're under construction right now at the house. And so one of them busted, one of my kids busted a pipe outside and it's just spewing out water. So I get the little, they got a little tool you used to turn off a water meter. So I went out to the water meter.

and I turned off the water meter and it did stop. The leak stopped or the outside in the yard. But what I noticed was that inside the house, the water was still going because I called Jill and I said, hey, just so you know, I just turned the water off. And so you know, you won't have water for a little while until I fix this pipe. She said, I'm using the water right now. It's on. Which kind of got me worried.

I said, how in the world did I turn off the water meter? and I still have water. And then I remember that when we first moved here, there was a, I saw an old water meter in the back of our property. And I got to thinking, I wonder if that water meter is connected to the house. But it was covered up with probably,

I don't know, probably 28 inches of pine straw, leaves, mulch, just like a mulch pile. And so I had a guy come out here. I said, hey, I need you to move this mulch pile because I think there's a water meter somewhere under that pile, and I need you to find it. So I paid a guy to come out here with a front end loader.

He spent, you know, four hours moving everything around. He calls me up, said, look, there ain't a water meter under there. I promise you, no water meter. I said, there's a water meter under there somewhere. He said, there's not a water meter. I've looked everywhere. And then I remembered that Fred had, he's now into metal detecting. He has a metal detector.

Uh-oh. And so the, the game was. $50 to the man who finds the water meter. Ah. And I'm in the middle of the- He went and spent 800 to win 50. Exactly right. Well, but he's been finding stuff.

So while we were recording the last podcast, he bust up in the studio here. And he gets me the thumbs up. He's like, I found it. Where's my money? So he, and I went out there. So during the podcast, he wants to get paid. He wants to get paid. I go out there and he has the whole thing exposed and swept off.

And it's like this, it's like there's a hole about two feet deep. And at the bottom of that hole is in fact a metal cover to a water meter. And so my son is, he's a metal detector guy. He's a fish one now. Has he ever watched that show, Duck Family Treasure? He's heard about it. Yes. Is that what got the fever going?

That's what got the fever going. Look there it does. You're in. I just figured my cousin, who was an executive producer, would have said, you know what, that show worked. My son has become a metal detector. This is the first I'm hearing about it. Yeah. On the podcast.

Well, we do, in our family, it takes a lot for someone to say, good job, Jace. Well, Jace, can I tell you what? I was actually going to tell you that he was in the metal detecting when I heard you were coming through Black Mountain, but you never stopped by the house. Well, we did blow the horn. How old is your house? house. Your house is old. Built in 1897.

Okay. Well, I need to investigate that. The next time I come through, I will not blow the horn until I'm in the yard. There you go. And we'll, me and Fred are going to go out and see what's what's in your yard. Fred found anything out there, like a value, any kind of coins and stuff? Because you should have some. He's found, what he's found is a lot of these, the old windows that they used to have.

they had weights on them, metal weights, and they were tied to ropes. There's like these long metal, they're like iron anchors that the rope is tied to it. It's on a pulley system. And that's how they operated windows apparently back in the late 1800s. So he's found a bunch of those weights, which means that I don't know if there's another house here. I don't know, but it's like there are weights to a wind through. That is right. Yeah.

You only knew a professional metal detector who could come and tell you exactly what you dealing with. But maybe you'll find one. Yeah, maybe you'll find the team, like a team that would have their own television show. You need a guy that's a close friend or in your family that possesses a certain set of skills that could train young Fred for future endeavors. I'm smelling a whole new series here.

The next gym. Next gym. Well, what I like about that, if you haven't noticed what our family does is we try to do things that are good, clean, fun, like duck hunting, metal detecting. And these are things you can do with your family that take up their time, especially the kids. That's good, clean fun you can do together.

And that's, we've used that as a platform to declare Jesus. No, dad used to always say when he'd speak to audiences, especially with young men in it, he would always say, if you want your kid, stay out of trouble that you won't find trouble in a duck plan or a deer stamp you know but you will find trouble in town you know that's what you used to always tell us oh yeah they used to have that cheesy saying you know if you don't want to have to hunt for your kids take them hunting yeah you know but but the i i i agree you know somebody said i think when we had for king and country uh which

i've been doing a lot missy and i to promote that movie we actually for our charity with the craniofacial families that we help. And a lot of you people have supported and sent your money to, which we appreciate. You know, Missy's like, you know, some of the, we pay a lot for their surgeries and travel when we do our, our fun day for them and invite all the families. And basically what we're doing in that charity, which my daughter leads, is connecting these families. Because it's such a life of suffering and you need that support. you know, Galatian 6 comes to mind, carry each other's burdens.

And she had an idea, which I thought was fantastic. I love it because my wife, when it's something about Jesus or kids, she is a warrior. And I sent that statement to Joel Smallbone. He's the one that dresses kind of weird, which is probably normal for our society, but to us it was a little weird. I sent that to him because I said, well, we, We offered tickets to all the families to go see the movie Unsung Hero because it's such a family-oriented movie.

And it also is a family that is reliant on God's power. And it's a message of faith to trust God, no matter what circumstances, because their early beginnings was tough. But I thought, what a great idea, babe. Because it's so inspirational, especially for the families that we're helping. They need these moments of inspiration.

Here's something good and clean you can do with your family. Go see this movie. You'll laugh, you'll cry, but you'll be inspired that you're part of God's forever family. So I was really proud that we got to purchase a lot of tickets for these families. So one story I didn't get to tell on the last podcast. I only had one thing I had to do. We were doing podcasts the day of the wedding. And so they were all getting stuff ready and, you know, prepped and all that stuff.

And so I had one job to go by, we were serving tea at the wedding. And we were having to get 20 gallons. Normally I would make my own tea, but, you know, we had too many people for that. So McAllister's has really good tea. I mean, if I'm going to buy tea in town, that's typically where I would go. So I told Lisa, so I'll order it, and I'll pick it up on my way out. So I stopped by our local McAllister's and I go in and said, all right, I'm here for the tea for a wedding. I got my suit on.

I mean, I'm ready to go preach. I'm on my way of the wedding. And she said, okay, 20 cups of tea. I said, 20 cups of tea? And she said, yep, that's what I got you here for them. And I was like, I was told to pick up 20 gallons of tea. And she said, well, I'm looking at the order here. It's 20 cups of tea.

And I was like, we're going to have a lot of thirsty people. And I said, I got, you know, we got 175 people. And she said, let me, let me check. And I said, do you have that much? Can you make me some tea? I said, because literally I'm an hour and a half away here. And she said, oh, no, we made it. But it's just rung up as 20 cups.

I said, okay. I said, but you have the tea. She said, oh, yeah, I see it. And I was back in Milwaukee. I was like, okay, so good. And she said, so 20 cups of tea, right? I was like, nope, I'm going to need those 20 gallons. So what happened was the computer had it wrong,

but she was having a problem making the link because she was like, what do I do? I said, tell you what? I said, are you telling me that we're just undercharged in your system here? That's what it is. I said, then just ream me up 20 gallons and I'll pay you for it. I'll pay you for the rest of it. She said, okay, I got it. But it was so funny having to walk her through this process, I thought, as I usually do

when I go into some place to buy stuff now, is that people just have a hard time. I thought you were going down a road of where, somehow we were going to get 20 gallons of water changed into tea. Which would have been a John, too. That's a lot of tea. Well, it was funny. So two girls start bringing out. They had like two gallons each.

And they go to handle it to me. I said, could you guys load them in the car? Because I'm like ready to go to the way. Could y'all do that for me? I said, I'll make it worth you a while. So then they're hauling tea out to my car. And we wind up with 20 gallons of tea. It's so funny you bring that out because we're such tea snobs.

I mean, so Missy, she'll want to. to go somewhere and I'll say, how is there tea? She's like, I don't know. I was like, well, that matters. It matters a lot. Because there's very few places you're right. Because it's all about the water, whatever water. You've got to have good tea.

You've got to have good water. In fact, we just did on our last cooking episode that appears on Blaze TV. You got to subscribe to Blaze to get it. We did a whole segment on tea because tea is such a big deal. So we had a blind taste test with Sai, dad, and mom as to who made the best tea. So you'll have to check that out on the cooking with the Robertsons to be able to do that. Let's take her first. But surprisingly, McAllister's Chick-fil-A and the airlines, if you ask for a black tea,

which I guess I'm the only person in society who does it. I do it too. Well, I'll say, I want black tea with a cup of ice. Yeah, and so they stop and they're like, what do you mean? It's like, I want a black tea and I'm going to pour that over ice. And she's like, so you want an iced tea? Like, yeah, but I would just let you know. Because you don't want to bring something out in a bottle of iced tea.

That's no good. Exactly. And so I'm making my own. And it's always good. It's good. Yeah, because they brew it. It's all about the brew. So Zach, Melissa came over, speaking of tea yesterday, and she's right in with the tea snob with us.

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's strong in her. And so somebody said, oh, I was making tea. And they were like, why you made this tea? Because of those 20 gallons of McAuster's tea, I had about four gallons left. So I was giving that to the kids because that's day old tea now, which I don't drink that old tea. And so I'm making some fresh from me and Melissa. And they were like, why are you making fresh tea?

I was like, I've got my cousin here. We're not going to serve that day old McAllister. Are you kidding me? That's only fresh. It's a dangerous, it's a dangerous addiction you guys have. I remember when I ran for Congress, Willie asked Willie to introduce me to some of his money friends because I was raising money to campaign.

And he said, yeah, come over. I'm going to take you out to meet somebody, be at my house at 5 o'clock or whatever, whatever it was. I get there and probably within an hour before me getting to his house, he was making tea.

And he had to, the glass container on the right there on the side of the counter and he pours the boiling water in the glass container into where the tea bags were at and the exploded. I remember that. Yeah. So the boiling water hits his legs. And I mean, it is like third. I mean, it's bubbled up.

I mean, four inches above the shin bone was a blister about four inches high. It was a bad burn. Oh, it was horrible. And I was like, are you still want to go? No, we'll go. I said, I don't know, dude. And so he was in pretty bad shape. Can you imagine that?

You go to the ER and they're like, what happened? He's like, I was making some tea. It's a tea accident. I never heard of that. Don't, we all learned a valuable lesson that day. Don't put boiling water in a glass jug. I mean, it was bad. I've never seen.

I mean, it was. I remember when that happened. I mean, yeah, third degree. I'm surprised that he continued with the trip. We drove out to Allah and we were out there all night until late at night. He was still raising money for you, even with third-degree burns. What a cousin. And I'm going to push back about you saying that's an addiction or whatever.

If tea is bad for you, I give you exhibit Uncle Si. Evidently, it's not that bad for you because he has defied most laws of nature was staying alive as long as he has. He drinks a gallon a day. When we appeared, two gallons, we appeared on Dr. Oz together as a family, back when the show was going on, Dr. Oz said, who do you think in your family has the healthiest liver? And somebody jokingly said, well, we know it's not sigh,

and he was like, wrong, because tea is a great diuretic for your liver. He said, Uncle Si, drinking that tea as the healthiest liver. Oh, you need to get on some of that tea. You drink a lot of tea. I drink tea. Yeah, I love tea. But you had bad liver enzymes, though. I make it and drink it every day. Me too. And I love making it. I like hearing the gurgle sound. Oh, yeah. I'm like, they have tea makers. Do you know now, though, that Mr. Coffee has quit making tea makers? I don't know what's going to happen when this last one goes out. We're just going to have to go back to boiling on the stove, I guess. Yeah, there's always a way. I have connections. I know people. Well, let me know. There's a warehouse somewhere with 1984 NIVs and. Mr. Coffee tea makers. By the way, Zach brought it up because I get every other week I get an email asking what

Bible you is this, the 1984 NIPA, but quit looking for it because it's not out there. I'm looking for it because I've said, I don't think it's the greatest translation. I mean, a lot of things I think they get wrong. The 84 is better than the 2011 or whatever the newest one is, but you're right. There's some issues. I've started following Zach's lead and going with the ESV. It's nothing major. That's why I did the little Greek...

But we've memorized all our Bible verses in this version. That's the problem. Yeah, it is a problem. It doesn't sound quite right to me otherwise. Which, by the way, since we're here, Acts 16, we are finally going to get to that story that we've been pushing for the last few podcasts to try to get to. We've kind of told the story, but there's a couple of elements in it I want to read. We're in Act 16, and we had Lydia's conversion.

Paul is in Philippi. And then there's this girl who we talked about a few podcasts ago, who is a fortune teller, but it's coming from this evil spirit that she has, that has possessed her. And so, Jay, I forgot how you described it. Well, I said that even though she didn't say anything wrong, when we get to Acts 16 and 17, you're really going to see how this is the true God against all these gods. I mean, Rome was to say that there was a god on every street corner is not an embellishment. They, from Mars to Jupiter to Artemis, these are just off the top of my head here,

but they were just into gods that when you think, well, what are these gods? You know, I'll just think of Greek mythology and all the Greek gods, and that was the culture at this time. and you just think about what Paul and the other disciples are up against here. They're going around saying there's one true God. Well, that was just, you want to pick a fight? Go do that in a place where they're like, oh, no, everybody has their own God, which is not a whole lot different than our culture today.

You figure out who God is. See, when you think, well, what are these guys? They're made up. people make up, you say, what is a God? Like, we're going to get to the, or do we already do that when they, yeah, we already did that about Zeus and, who was the other, yeah, that was back when their first journey. Hermes and Zeus, remember that, I mean, they saw a miracle and they're like, oh, the gods are real. No, these are fantasy gods that they made up, people have made up as a way to excuse basically

how they want to live. I mean, even when you get into, what was the woman who, the temple of, was it Diana? Yeah. Where they're having sex. There's an emphasis one. Yeah. One of the two. Yeah, I think it was Corinth.

They're, they're like, it's okay because the God, this is the God we follow. We're offering sacrifices. So we're, well, it just sounds like a good way to have sex with a lot of people. Yeah, which was part of their culture. Yeah. we established that we were talking about Philippi that this place is very gentile it's a it's a roman military stronghold and it's so it's so not Jewish that they didn't even have a Jewish synagogue there which is the only one that all these other ones he finds a synagogue when he gets to down where they didn't

have one so you remember he establishes his first relationships with lydia by a river you know that was the only place he could find anybody that seemed to fear god was down that river back well exactly and That's why I brought up the history of Philippa, you know, remember when we went through the Alexander the Great and the Cleopatra later and all these things that have happened, who were so into this occult world and supernatural happenings that they had invented. So this slave girl, she basically didn't say anything. Here's what she said. These men are, now she's got this spirit. What birth are she at? I'm in 17, these men are servants of the most high God who are telling you the way to be saved, which is true.

So whatever the spirit she had recognized what Paul and Silas were doing. Which is whether it was a demon or whatever it was, it wasn't unlike. Remember, when Jesus cast out the demons, they all know who Jesus was. That's right. But the problem is when you're tapping into a source that is not going to. God, the God, that's unacceptable to Paul. And that's why he cast the spirit up. Well, and also I think, let's take another point. I also think it may be because it says in verse 18, she kept this up for many days. I think she just got on his last nurse. Well, it could

have been an annoyance. But I really think the greater point is this is not, not from God. Yeah. And he says, finally Paul became so troubled for whatever reason that he turned around said to the spirit. So we never know it was a spirit. In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to come out of her at that moment that spirit left her. Now, to Jason's point about the surroundings, this, of course, upset the owners of this girl because they've been making money off over. So they dragged them. Which is another God. Exactly. That, I mean, people serve money as a God. They brought them into the marketplace. Verse 20, they brought them before the magistrates. men are Jews and are throwing the city into an uproar.

So you see there's kind of an anti-Jewish bias there, too. You can see that by advocating customs unlawful for us Romans to accept or practice. That's not even true. Well, because they're saying there's a God and it's not any of these gods. Because the Roman custom was any God works. And the irony was Paul is a Roman citizen, but this guy has no idea. Go ahead. Is that?

Yeah, I think we always, on this podcast, a lot of times we push back on over spiritualizing things. But there's also the danger. I think you look at this text of under spiritualizing it. Like there, obviously she was doing something by the power of some evil spirit. Right. That was not of this natural world, enough to where Paul rebuked the spirit and it stopped. And so I think it's, it is evidence. There's something going on here.

I think, too, like probably her, whatever she. was doing was, it seems to me, it was probably disruptive to what they were, they're, what they were trying to accomplish here. And she, because that, that idea of the, that she's following them and crying out, you know, so this isn't necessarily like, you know, a proclamation of truth that she's doing. She's becoming a real annoyance and a hindrance. And a distraction. Right. Well, You see that in our culture today. I mean, there's been stuff in the news, you know, even recently about churches when an illustration or becomes a distraction. Yeah.

You know, let's have an event. We're going to share Jesus. And then you do things that are, that seem not to line up with God's character. You're taking the culture to try to draw people in. And then excusing it by saying, well, Jesus. met with tax collectors and sinners, but sometimes the illustration is such a distraction to the power of God and the message of Jesus that it's not right. It was kind of my illustration I used in my sermon, Jay's, a couple of sermons ago

when I talked about Buckees, you know, which everybody loves Buckees because it's like a convenience store on steroids. The problem is that I laid out, because I was talking about how sometimes we fall in love with the messenger and not the message and who the man is, Jesus, that Bucky's is not very convenient. I mean, when I drive by one, there's a hundred gas pumps there, but there's also about a thousand people in there. And so I was like, I'm just going to stop at the convenience store at the end of my street.

You know why? It's convenient. And so I was making the point that sometimes the big and the shiny draws you in, but it's really not what it was designed to be. And that's exactly what happens. Well, that's kind of, I mean, because I've been asked 10 times about this situation that happened in Missouri just in the past week. You know, wait, I mean, that was, and it was what I was describing.

They had some kind of a guy dancing around on a pole. Apparently, he had been on one of these shows. America's got talent. Yeah, one of those, right. And they were using it to draw people in. They're like, hey, we brought, you know, hundreds of people to the Lord. And I've sat in rooms before and thought just like that, like, how can we do something to get people to come to listen to this? So, but so a guy, another preacher gets up and basically rebukes the whole bunch for having the guy come

and do this. Well, he was subtle about it. Not really. Well, without knowing the specific situation. He was subtle in the Jezabel spirit sort of subtle. Without knowing the situation, and I was not familiar with any party involved, so I'm giving you my take without knowing the details, circumstances, or whatever. But just my overall take, I was like, seems like this guy that rebuked everybody is a lot

like my dad from a personality standpoint in that when most people say something that's like socially awkward most people think oh maybe i shouldn't have said that but with phil's personality and this guy they they kind of like that you know and so which phil i think it's a good trait which is why people are drawn to that because you're not scared right to share what you really believe despite what people think about you. Well, and to sum up, what I'm saying, there's some people with unique personalities who would rather speak the truth, no matter what,

and have that happen, have that out there, they would much rather do that than be boring. And so that's what I attribute to. So this guy definitely was in that vein, and he kind of rebuked the whole bunch. And then the pastor who put the whole event on, he hollers out like, You're done.

You're done. That's enough. So, you know, is it a black eye for that church? Yes. But my point is... The fact, it becomes a national story, yeah. It's not worth... We have a mode, even when we do TV and entertainment, where someone will say something

or do something that, not on purpose usually, it's usually innocent. But it might be construed as not in line with the character of God. And it might distract from what we're trying to... compas overall. So we always take that, edit that stuff out because we're like no, no one joke or one illustration is worth the distraction of what we're trying to do here, which is we're trying to get Jesus to the world. Even in our little TV shows and stuff we do, they're not religious shows per se and they're not, you know, some kind of scheme of redemption hidden in there. But it's a good, compared to our culture, what's going on.

It's a good safe place for kids. You make a really good point, especially in this context, because a lot of people just said, oh, look at this. We've got this spirit, this girl with a spirit where good, evil, whatever it is. And we could just take her into every town with us because she's drawing a crowd. But Paul was like, no, that's not what I want. You know, he cast that out. So the crowd joins in this.

attack on Paul and Silas, the magistrates ordered them to be stripped and beaten, verse 22. And magistrates are, I don't know if Zach, he's the smartest one here, but they're like the court officials, like when you would handle like misdemeanors or something that, because just think about what they're doing. I mean, they suppose, just think from their perspective. These magistrates are like, so the guy cast out a spirit. I mean, they're probably not even thinking this is true. Right.

So this is a petty disturbance. That's right. And I think it's important because you see that and you're like, well, are they in major trouble? Because it doesn't seem to fit where after this whole encounter, well, they just let them go. But how do you really prove this? Can you imagine being in front of a court? And you're like, what's the problem? It's like, well, I cast out a spirit.

I mean, as soon as I hear that, I'm like, what do you? exactly is the problem here? You're going to try to prove that these men cast out a spirit of your money-making scheme? Oh, who was a fortune teller and how you were making money? Which, by the way, that's not the charge they said, did that. They said, these men are Jews and they're stirring up trouble, and they're doing the insane things that Romans should be. They didn't say anything about a girl with a spirit. Well, that's why I brought it up, because how are you going to prove, what is your proof of this? I think part of what they were saying, though, because My translation says they advocate customs that are not lawful for us Romans to accept or practice.

And what they're missing is in Acts 17, as his custom was, Paul went into, his whole job, it's just right here, went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days, he reasoned with them from the scriptures, explaining, here's what he was doing, explaining and proving that Christ had to suffer and rise from the dead. So he was with the gospel just right along there. Which that's, I think that's what... He didn't deviate to the right or the left. Yeah.

He said, I'm doing my job. That's what he was saying. Yeah. You get back to Acts 4, you get the idea of what they may have been saying that was so offensive. It's Acts 412. And there is salvation in no one else. Yeah, for there is no other name under heaven given among, among men by which we must be saved. I think that's what they were.

Yeah, but that's what they're angry about. My point is the point of the story, though, is they're not saying what happened. No. Because nobody's going to believe that. So they're just. Because they're upset because they lost their way to make money. They're mad because their money's been taken away. But it's funny because it's the same thing that happened at the beginning of Acts.

when Stephen's stone, they bring a false accusation, just like they're doing here. A different group of people, though, but the Jews brought false accusation against Stephen. They brought a false accusation against Jesus. I think that's the thing that when you walk in the kingdom, when the accusation comes, it's never going to be an accusation against what you're actually saying or a proclamation of God's kingdom. It's always going to be a false accusation. Well, this is a council culture before it. That's it. That's a great point.

That's a great point. Yeah. No, that's been going on since Acts chapter 16. He said, this Jesus, I'm proclaiming you to you is the Christ. He said, Paul, some of the Jews were persuaded. Well, look, he's making headway. And Joe and Paul and Silas, as did a large number of God-fearing Greeks and a few prominent women. But the Jews were jealous.

So they rounded up some bad character from that marketplace. formed a mob and started a ride in the city. Well, that's what they do these days. Yep. Well, yeah, you have a totally different circumstance in the next chapter, but it's the same result. Same result. So here's the difference with our council culture, Jays, and theirs in verse 23.

After they had been severely flogged, so this is more than just getting kicked off of Facebook, they beat the fire at them because of severe flogging. I mean, we know that from the, crucifixion story, right? This is a serious beating. They were thrown into prison, and the jailer was commanded to guard them carefully. Upon receiving such orders, he put them in the inner cell and fastened their feet into stock. So they've been stockated here inside the prison. They've been beaten. And so you'd think, and this verse amazes me, the next verse. Because, I mean, you'd think at this

point, you're like, man, I don't know. This didn't seem to work out too well. Instead, about midnight, Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God and the other prisoners were listening to them. We just think about that for a second. Because what do we do? What we do is we get angry and then we have to basically create some kind of political revolt because we're so afraid. Our rights have been valid.

Yeah. And I mean, and I'm all for like fighting for religious freedom and whatnot. But man, it seems to me like these guys are in a culture. They didn't have any freedoms. But what do they do? In the midst of persecution. they sing hymns and they pray. They manifest the Holy Spirit in them.

Every blessing the song we sing you pour out, I turn back to praise. That's what they're doing in this moment. And it's them embodying that type of worship of God that starts to have consequences outside of their own circle. I don't think they were trying to evangelize here. I think they were just literally lifting up the name of God through prayer and song and other prisoners were listening to them. No, that's a great point.

And really took me back when you said that Acts 4 earlier. Remember, right after Peter said that in Acts 4, then they were beaten. And remember, it said they considered it a privilege to be beaten for the sake of Christ. So that's a whole different mindset. Well, but whether they were trying to evangelize or gospel, as you said, or not, they were. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, they certainly were. Because the jailer, which were fixed to see what happens, for some unknown reason,

he starts talking about being saved and what do I need to do. That's right. So it's making an impact. And Luke, I think he's watching. I think the jailer is watching these guys. I mean, this is something that I feel pretty strongly about,

that we spend a lot of effort, and I have in my life, spend a lot of effort in ministry trying to capture people, keep people, however you want to say it. But the Bible says that the workers, the problem is not the harvest. The harvest is plenty.

The workers are a few. I think if you lean into living out a kingdom life, I'm seeing it. People will come and say, hey, wait, what is this? What are you doing? What is this about? And it's happening here. At least Trouble talks about this in his conversion experience where he calls it boomerang

evangelism. I can't remember the entire story, but there was something like there was a gospel like exchange going on between two people. And then somebody is like in the room and they hear it. And they're not even in the conversation, but they come to Christ. Maybe it may have been him or someone else. I can't remember the exact story, but it was like, someone came to Christ because of a conversation that somebody else was having that they overheard. And I think that's what you're seeing here.

You're seeing this jailer guy. He's just, he's just in there watching the jail. And they're in there doing the kingdom stuff. And he's like, wait, how in the world are they? Why are they singing and why are they praying to God? They'll think he realized they're in jail, which created in him a curiosity to know about how to be saved. And it was the unexpected, too. Let's take her last break.

But I think, too, it doesn't seem to make sense with the, they were stripped and beaten and flogged, and then they're praying and singing. But I do think there's something to be, being eyewitnesses of the resurrected Lord. You know, read First Christmas 15th, I think, with Paul. Because I watched this movie the other night that I had never seen Missy. It just came up.

We were trying to find a movie, and she's like, oh, that was a good movie. It was called Risen. Yeah, yeah. Have you seen that? Yeah, yeah. That's loosely based on scripture. They got the events right, but that, you know, they kind of created their own character who was the head of the Roman guard.

Yeah, it was trying to prove. That was investigating the resurrection. They were scared that they were going to steal the body. You remember that? Yeah. But it's a great movie. I like the movie. We watched it again.

And what was captured there is that it was different. for them, because, you know, he would come in there and threaten and say, this is post-resurrection. He would threaten the disciples, like, you know, we're going to, if you don't tell us where the other disciples are, we're going to torture you and kill you. And they were like, go ahead. Because they were with a dead person who was alive. They're like, well, where's he at? And they were, I think it was Bartholome, you told this Roman officially, he's like, he's everywhere. Because he was disappearing, you know? He's like, he's almost like hippie giddy.

Yeah. And so I do think, you know, we should take suffering in the name of Jesus the right way. But I think they're extremely like that because they know this is a fact. This is true. So they're singing instead of pouting and crying and moaning. I was going to make that point too, Jase. Because there's a reaction. Why don't you read to it?

Yeah. There's a reaction that happens. and I think this is important because their attitude is things are tough but we're going to sing and pray and then look what happens. Verse 26. Suddenly there was a violent earthquake that the foundations of the prison such a violent earthquake that the foundations of the prison were shaking. So now that's a response to their singing and praying.

It's obviously the Almighty did it. At once all the prison doors flew open and everybody's chains came. loose. So this isn't a normal earthquake. This is one that... Mass, mass de-arming. That's exactly right. It freed everybody there. The jailer woke up, and when he saw the prison doors open, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself because he thought the prisoners had escaped. And there's a whole thing we could get into there. If the people got out on your watch, you might as well care yourself because what's coming is worse. Then Paul shouts, don't harm yourself. We're all here. We ain't going anywhere. I think Zach, to your point earlier, this is what really impacts this man.

Nobody left. So the jailer called for lights. He rushed in. He fell trembling before Paul and Silas. He then brought them out and said, sirs, what must I do to be safe? He said, I need to get, I'm on the wrong side. Whatever you got, I want some of it, which is really powerful. And it shows you the power of what happens when we witness that resurrection that Jason was talking about.

They replied, believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be. saved you and your household. Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. At that hour of the night, the jailer took them and washed their wounds. Then immediately he and all his family were baptized. The jailer brought them into his house, set a meal before them. He was filled with joy because he had come to believe in God, he and his whole family, which is incredible. So much to skip over baptism. They didn't. No, and they did it that night. Well, I mean, it says midnight in verse 25.

So now what do you think? It's two or three in the morning. We're middle of the night, early in the morning. Three or four in the morning. So so much for, you know, let's wait to make some kind of public confession. I mean, I'm just saying, to your point, Phil, I don't think we give it as important of what it is. you know, we just don't, for some reason, we tend to think, and I think it's just because of what we talked about before. There's so many days.

At the o'clock in the morning, they all agree to be baptized. Somebody told them that. Yep. But the only somebody that's talking of the Apostle Paul. I mean. Yeah, and they did it. I think people, religious groups are scared that somehow you're calling it a work or something that you can do. But it's definitely.

I'm just calling it. It's an opportunity. Well, no, it's an opportunity. Sure. And it's how they reacted. So then a few more hours ago, now it's daylight, first 35,

the magistrate sent their officers to the jailer with the order. Now this is weird. Release those men. I mean, sorry, too late, the Almighty already did that when he did the earthquake. Yeah.

But something happened in the storyline there, and we don't know what it is, from the false accusations to now it's like the... Well, that's why I brought up. It was a misdemeanor. It's less than a misdemeanor. They have some kind of altercation that wasn't like they were fighting or someone got injured. They took away these guys' chance of making money, and they pressed charges. And they were false, yet they were technically true as far as the customs of the laws.

Because they were saying Acts 412, basically. salvation is found in no one else but Jesus, and that technically was a violation of Roman law because they're like any God will do, as long as you just don't hurt anybody, and it's, you know, as long as no one gets hurts, basically. And all they heard was these guys are Jews. They're about to find out, no, they were more than that.

They were also Roman citizens. Yeah. The jailer told Paul, the magistrates have ordered that you and Silas be released. Now you can leave, go in peace. He's happy. His family is saved. he's like, you know, now you can leave. But Paul said to the officials or to the officers,

they beat us publicly without a trial. And here's the money phrase, because this is going to set the stage for what's going to happen the rest of Paul's ministry, even though we are Roman citizens. Dad, that's what they call it. That's what they call it DED. Don't ever do it.

I notice that they jumped from ran upon Lydia in her conversion, and it says the last words of what happened. after Paul and Silas came out of the prison, they went to Lydia's house. Yeah. They went out and had one just was converted. Because that was a house church. I think that was pretty. It was the very first house church.

That's exactly right. So anyway, he makes a big deal. And Paul says, no, we're not going to leave quietly. They can come themselves and escort us out. When the officers reported the magistrate that they heard Paul and his house were Roman citizens, that's a big, uh-oh. Because you don't do that. You can't, they were built on the same system.

We are. you had due process, you had rights as a Roman citizen. They were alarmed. They came to appease them and escorted them from the prison, requested them to leave the city. And then they went to Lydia's house, as you mentioned. But this is eerily similar to what happened in Acts 14, 20, after they stone Paul.

And then I love this. It's one of my favorite verses in the Bible, verse 19 of chapter 14. Then some Jews came from Antioch and I call him and won the crowd over the stone paul and dragged him outside the city thinking he was dead but after the disciples had gathered around him he got up and went back into the city you would think he got up and got the heck out of there but and here you see the same thing they in prison this earthquake happens and he's like no we we want an apology and an escort that's right and the same thing's going to

happen again later in act 21 in jerusalem Muslim, and ultimately, that's the one that's going to put him on the track to Rome. That's borderline present. Yeah. If you get into prison system and all of a sudden, the whole thing starts crumbling down and you've got some people that are saved, said, y'all need to lead us out of here. Right. I mean.

What would have been, well, it would be fun, just as if you could, you know, have the stories, then we don't have them of what happened when that Philippian jailer and his family hooked up with Lydia and her family. And then the other groups there and just saw what happened in that city because that's exactly what went on there. But that's why I made the reference in our last or I guess podcast before, two podcasts ago about, you know, Paul has this little greeting at the end of Philippians to the members of the kingdom that were part of Caesar's household. Yeah. This is the kind of boldness and courage that it takes to take on any power that sets itself up.

instead of God. Because you got to remember, these people were all bowing the knee to Caesar. He was the God of this age, even to the point of where they tried to change the calendar. So it wouldn't be a revolve around Jesus, but Caesar. They tried to implement a law that said,

we count time by Caesar. And the other thing is, when you're showing the character. It's sounding like the United States all over there. You're showing the character of God. You never know how you're going to impact people. This jailer, they could have had an accident in that inner cell and being killed. Instead, the jailer and his family were saved as a result of it.

So it's very powerful story. It's one of the best stories. It only took us about four podcasts to get it out there. But we got it. And next time we'll move on to Thessalon Nica. Dad's giving us a little preview. We'll get into that on next Unashamed. Thanks for listening to The Unashamed podcast.

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