Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 90 | Phil's Secret Bunker, the Duck Dynasty Prayer That Didn't Make the Cut & Jase's Jelly Issue

Episode Date: May 17, 2020

Jase is shocked when Phil reveals his secret jelly stash, and Al laughs till he cries over Jase and Phil's jelly shenanigans. Jase experiences one of the top 10 most shocking things he's ever seen a human being do. The guys talk miracles. And Phil remembers the time he sent a not-so-subtle message to the "Duck Dynasty" film crew with his prayer at the end of the episode. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So I made biscuits. You know, I do breakfast on Sunday mornings now since we do virtual gatherings. And so it's, we do the same thing. We take the Lord's up, but I make a big breakfast, you know. And then you and I have a debate during my own sermon. Because they, now, this, that last Sunday, like, I threw you under the bus.

Oh, I threw you under the board of course. I know. And then they're telling me what you're saying. This is all happening in real time. Al, I'll make some, you know, some comment about, uh, he was Kay's favorite, you know, coming up and all. He kind of went down and I was the worst, you know, all this stuff. So I, you know, I said, let's all guess who's the favorite.

We all know Jason is not the favorite. I mean, like, everybody can't agree on that. So we got a good laugh. And then so I gave Jason. So I was trying, you know, because we have a common bond. between the brothers. You can use each other as illustrations for humor purposes. And so Al, he's just throwing me under the bus.

But everybody's watching, I have to explain this to Phil, because he has no idea what I was talking about. So you can go to, there's a company called Facebook. He doesn't know about Facebook because that's old Zuckerberg. Facebook. Yeah. I don't know why they call it Facebook. It should be Spacebook because it's your space, but anyway. So they had to think of it.

Or the wall. It should be, you know, face wall maybe or profile wall. But anyway, so we're all watching it there, and it's weird because you're talking to each other. So Al's throwing me out of the buzz. Everybody's laughing. So I typed in, public service announcement. Only listen to Al. I think I put it.

I only take Al seriously when he is quoting scripture, exclamation point. But, you know, then you can see people like it, you know, and they use the emoji. you know, with the... So they're having these conversations virtually online. The church is that, because they're all watching it at the same time

and interacting with each other while we're doing it. It's really been a strange phenomenon this whole thing. I mean, you and my are... I actually got that line from one of my buddies who said boldly.

He said, I've noticed something about you. I was like, what's that? He said, I only listen to you if you have a duck call in your hand or a Bible. And at first I started to say thank you, and then I thought, Hey, what are you trying to say here, but?

That was a sting. Well, in this case, well, Jason and I argued last night. And, you know, the family got together for some get together. And I said, you and Jason are going. I said, you've been doing that for a long time. Oh, I know. I said, yeah, Jay said that you said, you have a free flight to the vacation. You're going to like this.

I said, I said, there's no just saying it's a free flight. Okay. I don't know where he got that. First of all, Phil said. We're revisiting this whole flight. That was like back there in Duxley. Okay and I got into it last night. Oh, Mother's Day.

Well, look. He said over the free flight. I said, Northfield knows better than that. You pay big bucks to fly around. So here's what I did for her. Look, she hadn't got her Mother's Day card. As soon as we finished this podcast, we're going down there eating shrimp for Mother's Day, even though it's the day after.

Well, you can make up with your mother, Jay. Oh, no, here's what I did. I got our card, and I said, a great mother is more valuable than money. Stop fussing. And I have $10, $100 bills. $1,000 in the car. You're giving it to her?

Yeah. That'll do it. You're fixing to see it. That won't do it. Oh, Chase, I'm so sorry, but what. Oh, I know. I thought. Jay's will be her favorite today.

Money talks and everybody else is. Why will she get off this argument? So I thought, I told him Miss the other day. She's like, what? I was like, oh, yeah, I'm trying to make a point here. It's cost me $1,000. Well, Willie gave you, what he gave you on the pocket? I want to be there and see that.

Well, you're fixed to see it. You're going to see it 32 minutes. Your troubles are fixing to end, pardon it. So I'm making breakfast, and I realize that. I'm out of jelly, which to me, the way I was raised, I didn't really understand why. And I'm going to, this is almost like an intervention for you, Phil. But I felt hollow. It's like everything I've just created.

Is it true intervention or mine? It's yours. It went from me to you because I realized that I'm a victim of the way I was raised. He's blaming you. Run out of Jenny? So, yeah. Do you ever run out of deli? That does not happen around my house.

No, so here's why. I'm going to, this is no embellishment. I'm going to tell you just what happened. Oh, yeah. No impalishment. The first question is, where's the jelly? I'm like, yep, I'm out. So I come down here the other day, run the Nats, and I told Phil, it's like, hey, I need some jelly, you know?

And he's like, yeah, yeah. So Phil, he leads me out of his house. We go to their little kitchen, you know. Well, we open this closet, and I, it was, it reminded me, because I didn't even know this existed. It reminded me of like a wine. seller. It was a jelly seller. There's hundreds of jars of jelly. And look, they're all dated. And I'm like, I'm out of jelly. They have enough jelly for a hundred years for a village of people. And here's what's funny? He said, no, what kind were you looking for? I said, well, I'd like

some slow. And he said, well, here. Now, he picked up, oh, that's 2018. Then he started telling me where he got the slow berries. And I was like, this is like a wine cellar. I got, 2018 everything had dates and a story and so I took two slows and one may haul which seemed kind of small compared to what I'm looking at but he was giving it to me like it was gold bars that is gold bars and so there's a lot of people wanting to get into that particular cupboard I mean Phil I didn't know in that by age you had escalated to this level of jelly hoarding this is a good lesson for you. When you have a pandemic, just remember, always have plenty of jelly. The reason is it makes the world a little sweeter. Even when there's a pandemic. So this story is not over.

So we leave. I have the three jars of jelly up in the refrigerator. So Missy wants to go to the plantation for the weekend. That's what we've been doing because she wants she, she has to get out of the house. By the way, how was the slow jelly in Mayong? It was all fantastic. I mean, It's better than anything. I mean, it would make, like, if you went and bought some jelly at a grocery store, it would literally make you gag. Yeah, it ruins it. To try to eat them.

And so we go out to the plantation. We had her parents there because we hadn't seen them in two months since the quarantine. And they reached a point to where they said we'd rather die than not see, you know, our family. That's funny you said that because Jay's grandmother, she's like 91. Yeah. Same deal. They were just like holed up the whole time. And so they came over yesterday for our little Mother's Day,

celebration. And I said, well, they walked in. I was like, well, I mean, are we hugging or what are we doing? I thought the same thing. And look, she said, oh, I, hon, I started hugging yesterday. I just decided I just, life wasn't worth living without a hug. I think we reached the bottom of quarantine. Yeah. I mean, because, you know how, how Missy's parents, they, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, I have not laid eyes on them. But they didn't even sent many texts because I think they were thinking, what if, you know, No, you don't. Chase, I haven't been to a town of any kind in two and a half months.

There you go. So whatever the people here today are getting out of me, you say, this information coming out of me only comes in a little bitty spurts. Yeah. I'm under, of course, I've always been about halfway lockdown. But, I mean, I'm just saying. You're a pioneer of sense of distance. Well, this was just a good excuse to say, well, you know, pandemic. So anyway, so we, I think get up that morning.

I mean, we sat around the fire. And by the way, Mia brought a friend. She was 16 years old. Well, I noticed when we were sitting around the fire. And I just met this girl. And she had a, what do you call those things? Euculele. And I said, you want to sing us a song?

I was kidding. She said, yeah, I'll sing you one. So I thought, well, okay. Entertainment. This girl opened her mouth, and I was, to say, shocked and impressed at the same time. This girl was born to sing. And so when she finished, she did a version of reckless love, but it was like she just made her own version of it. And I said, how did this happen?

Because I was thinking, do you sing at church? She said, no. And when I asked her that, she told me about her convergent story. She's like, I really wasn't raised in church. But she said, I came to Jesus two years ago. and I really love worship songs, you know. And I was like, well, where did you get that song? She was like, well, I just did it, you know, I saw it.

The ukulele is the only thing I've learned out of play. But it was, I was so impressed. I said, well, I would like to be your agent. You tell me, I said, I mean, I told me, I said, that girl's welcome at all time. Bring her, because she's got. So one of these days, I'll introduce this girl to you in some capacity, because I'm telling it was the 10, it was in my top 10 of most shocking things. Really?

I've ever seen a human being do. And I said, have you ever sang in front of people? And she said, no. But I thought, what kind of person? Because I'm kind of intimidating looking. And she didn't know us. And she sang that song with as much heart and passion as anything I've ever seen. It was impressive.

And I kept trying to figure out the, where did she get this? And I couldn't figure it out. And so finally I just deducted it. I said, I want to tell you something. I said, because I've tried to figure out how you're able to do this. And the only conclusion that I have is that God made you to sing. And I would like to be here with you in the process. The birth of Jabal, he was the father of those who live in tents and raise livestock.

His brother's name was Jubal. He was the father. Here's the little girl's father. He was the father of all who played the harp or the flute. She's got a ukulele. Same thing. String, Nesimus. She is a descendant of Jupil.

A daughter of Juba. I'm glad we cleared that up. So the next morning I cook breakfast, look, you know, Missy makes the biscuits. It's fun. We're all, we, because we were doing Sunday morning from the plantation, you know. And so the biscuits are ready, you know, I love. And I was like, where's the jelly?

And she said, I forgot the jelly. Well, in that. Oh, the jelly you got to. down here out of the jelly cellar. The whole story about being out of jelly, now we're going to the plantation, we're cooking biscuits, it's going to be the greatest. But we forgot the jelly. I realized in that moment right then, I thought, this is all ruined.

It has all, because I thought, it's 35 minutes back to the house. I was going to say it. I said, I said, I can be back here in 70 minutes. And she was like, what? I said, well, I noticed something, which I probably. shouldn't have said this story because now I'm mad because I'm like you're in you're in charge of bringing the ingredients out of jelly uh-oh we're out of jelly the intervention about blaming now because yeah I said I went down to Phil's secret bunker and made the deal to get the jelly

and now you didn't bring it and I said look when we go so now we're having a mother's day fight so you guys and gentlemen never on Mother's Day do you ever forget the jelly. I said, look, let me tell you something. I said, when we're in a duck blind, because we eat biscuits in the duck blind. I said, I have seen this happen many times I'm telling of this, which I shouldn't have. I'm apologizing right now. I said, when someone forgets the jelly, I said, I started to say, I said, Phil will go back. And I was like, well, he sends someone back for the jelly. And I said, guess what? If you forget the biscuits, nobody goes back. They don't go back for the biscuits. But if you had the biscuits, they go back for the jelly. We're eating

the biscuit so we can get to the jelly. It's not vice versa. I would like to do a survey and the survey, ladies and gentlemen, out of all of you who are listening out there in computer land, how many of you are still making homemade jelly from the fruit picked off the land? Less than 1%? So the people are listening to it. They're saying, less than 0.01%. They've never tasted homemade jelly and they don't know how to make it. I mean, Phil, you got the jelly.

I'm with you and I realize I have a problem of overvalue in jelly because I really was mad. I was like, you run the whole trip. You forgot the jelly. Jay, here's the thought that might not have ever crossed your mind. Why don't you and the little yuppie girl you're married to? Why don't you learn how to make jelly dude? Learn how to make it. Luke you say, I learned how from my mother.

Because it takes all day. I mean, you know. Well, that's a workhouse. Which is why it's so protected, right? Let's take a quick break. So another thing came out of live stream, Jay, is that I thought was really cool was you're talking about songs. So, because it's funny because Missy does the worship, you know, she and some other people, but basically in charge of putting it together. And so, you know, obviously when you're all together on.

on Sunday, you know, they get up and we sing all together. Well, everything now is being done to the computer. So I don't know what they're doing or what they did. And so I'm like, well, we're running out about this. Well, right. So they got these things. Well, it looks like the, you were laughing so hard. The tears were streaming on your face.

Oh, this is the jelly seller. Yeah. I didn't know the jelly tail would bring it to tears. Well, I just, look, I didn't realize we were that hooked on jelly. I think how is not. I don't think he was shedding. I think he was crying because anybody forgets the jelly. I started crying over what that story you told you.

It was a painful moment. It was tears of joy. Look, I didn't finish. I ate that biscuit without jelly and guess what? Threw it up. No, I didn't throw it off. I ate it, but the biscuit was fun. He literally vomited.

Thumbs down and. Well, I made the experience, I realized then that I'm eating that. biscuit as good as they are. They're homemade biscuit. Without the jelly? No. I don't eat biscuits without jelly ever.

Two things are interesting. One is that Jay's fault with his wife and his mom on Mother's Day, which tells you something that's going on. But what I was going to say about the music was that two things happened, which you hadn't seen it yet, Dad. Y'all will watch it later today. Is that first of all, there's this song called Awesome God, which is a great song. when we've been singing for years.

And our uncle Gordon does like the lead part on it. Yeah. It's a riff kind of. It's kind of a riff. And he always miss times and it's funny, you know, because he always messes up. But he's so good at it. And it's almost just like you appreciate it.

So it was such a great thing for the church, because those are all the comments that all of a sudden, they're singing online and all of a sudden hear Gordon pops in. Yeah, because we do it and have squares. And what's funny about it is Perky, who's kind of our guy that puts the... changes this stuff and missy they start he starts off singing then missy pots up she's singing like a harmony part well then perky pops up again because now he's singing another harmony part there's four-part

then missy pops up well then gordon pops up singing the lead and look that was one take they did all that which i you know we never most people i think think oh they've been working working for hour no they literally sang the part saying the part saying the part saying the part gordon saying the part It was really. Slapped it together. I mean, it's not 100% flawless, which I think makes it cool. I know, Al, that when I made the comment, when I keep a covered full of jelly, we still have some fruit to go, you know, some pears, dewberries, and on to the slows.

They're slow because they don't get ripe. I said it made the world a little sweeter. I didn't realize forgetting it would curtail. I hate to make this more. Even your personality with your emotional. We're back on the jelly, but we're going to get to John 6 about fish and bread, and I was going to make the point that, you know, I'll look at bread in a weird way because I need that jelly. It's a pretty good leap, though, that Jesus being the bread of life, you know.

Oh, yeah. But look, listen to me, you have more jelly than you will be able to consume. So look, when we get into the wheel and all. that just put one blurb at the end jace is in charge of the jelly distribution oh yeah that's exactly what we need after hearing your whole jelly affliction today you're the last last one should be given what gives one immediate access to the cupboard is in fact the ones on their hands and knees are over there in the water about knee deep the mayhaws are falling in the water swamp water it's a swamp little bitty apple that goes but phil all those people are over 70

Most of them are old, but if you scratch around under the trees to get the berries and all, it's a workhouse. Well, and we grew up doing it. So let me make one, I got us to one more before we leave this topic because it was very touching. And people go, you can go to WFRChurch.org, by the way, and watch any of our stuff. The second song that came up right after Gordo was another song that I love is called Love One Another. It's a really pretty harmony song for Acapella. Yeah, can I clarify on that? that one was a little more difficult because the distance away, if you went colds in California.

Right. It's impossible. There's a time delay. Yeah, that's tough. And so, I mean, look, it wasn't, because people watching and say, well, that wasn't very good. It was hard to get. It was very good. It's good.

But I'm saying it's like the timing is a little off, but that's all because of the time delay. So here's what, so here's what looked like, though, Dad. You don't appreciate this. This is because your grandkids. So Missy pops in first. You remember the song, Love One Another. Yeah, one another. So she goes first, the alto.

And then Cole pops in singing the bass part, you know, that part. And then Reed pops in with the tenor part, the God's Love Part. And then Mia pops in for that last soprano part. And then they all sang together. Pretty cool, Jay, I have all your kids singing. It was really, I mean, you know, of course, obviously it's my family. It was my niece's niece and nephew. Did you see the comments?

Like, why in Jay's singing? Yeah. I said, hey, I'm leading this outfit. I'm the, what's the guy who does all this? You're the band director. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, I'm up there. I've always wanted to do that, even if I could fake it.

Plus, a man should not think of himself more highly than he ought. Look, I sing. That's a good text. They're all singing. Let me kind of blend in it and make them think I'm part of this show. I'll tell you this. I got this from Si, because I see. sing constantly in the grocery store.

You know, I sing in public. But I don't do it on purpose, like, because I know people are like, well, you can't sing, but I sing. And I got this from Sa. It may not be good sounding to the ears, but it's entertaining. Yeah. It's a joyful noise. Make a joyful noise.

Because my kids laugh. Yeah. Every time. Oh, yeah. They come down. They're laughing. But really, in our family, Missy, you know, her, I guess she must be a daughter of Jubal. Yep.

She's the only one that had a musical being. Nobody else really does. I mean, we can all sing. What is weird how that translated to our kids. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The genetics of it are pretty amazing. Because Reed just came. I mean, Reed can play nine instruments and he's had zero lessons.

By the way, so the audience will know, we don't believe guitars would send anybody to and all this stuff. But we just say... I don't think anybody's wondering that. But we're just saying when you're singing acapella and your family's singing archipella like Jace is talking about, a few people get together, it's just something about no frills, which I'm into no frills. I always get it from me.

Jesus right before he went to the cross and they were in the garden and it says there's just a little phrase. It says he got with the disciples and sang a hymn. I just always viewed that as a special moment. I like a cappella music. Now, I would rather listen to guitars. You know what I mean? It's just better.

But there's something cool. I think all our experiences at camp, you know, when I was coming up trying to find my way like everybody else, there's just something cool about being with young people out by a pond in the middle of the night. And you just start, somebody starts singing to God. And I've just had a lot of my high moments in my Christian life was gathered around some people spontaneously. singing around a campfire. There's something to us.

I'm telling you. And it's interesting because if you don't like, that's one of the reasons why we've tried to keep the tradition of it because it's the oldest. I mean, they were doing that. That's right. I mean, that's this natural. But I had this conversation with Carly. She's my 14-year-old granddaughter. She and me

are tight. And she was asking about the parts, you know, because what's happened is she's grown up so much just in contemporary Christian. She doesn't really get the acopal thing because we don't really teach it much anymore. And so she was asking me about the parts. And so I And she said, well, the only time we've ever done it was at camp, they kind of put us in groups. And I was, you know, she was trying to figure out.

So weird about perspective, you know. It is. And so hearing it from a young person was really interesting because we grew up learning it just kind of because we were taught that way. One of the first people I brought to the Lord when we were late teens, he's one of my good buddies. I remember he had lived such a, you know, hell-filled life. And he surrendered to Jesus. He was sincere. But when we went and met for the first time at the building,

I remember while we sang, I was like, look, you can join in, you know. And he said, I just can't. I'm opening my mouth, but it won't. It's like, I'm just embarrassed. And I said, well, I said, I think that's the transition from what you've been doing to now, which is being vulnerable and unselfish and you're singing to God. I said, it may take a little time. But I forgot about that conversation.

Then a few weeks later, he caught me in a parking lot, and he said, I sang for the first time today. And he said, then I got teared up. I was like, well, that's a good day. I said, because now you're starting to understand this ain't about you. You need to be broken sometimes about, you know, our past and where we're at. Well, you said that, Dad, when you first converted, you know, came out of your worldly thing, it was hard to sing it first just because. I couldn't sing a church song. Yeah, it was just so.

foreign to you. That tells you right there that you're under the control. You were under the control of the evening one. You just think about singing as long. I was looking at everybody else, and I'm thinking, and I look down at the words, you know, Jesus loves me. I just said, I just couldn't say. This is exactly what you just found. Now you do.

Yeah. So I think it's a, I like being in situations where people sing even though they can't. I mean, you know, like someone like Missy, she's saying. hearing how it sounds musically. And I have to help her understand that some people we get to sing, even on our teams and all, they don't

have the greatest voice. But I always tell her the same thing. I said, but I love their heart. I think I've helped her with that. Because I'm like, I don't care how it sounds all the time. If you got the people that love Jesus, and especially

if they have a story, I want them singing. It's the same thing about speaking, Jason. You and I learned how to do it the proper way. But when I hear somebody get up and they don't really have a ability, but their heart just pours through it. I mean, like,

they're doing a lot of things. If I were just going at it from the way you're supposed to present, you know, a presentation is all wrong. But the heart just, I mean, you know. I mean,

it's like we have a guy, we've mentioned many times on this podcast at our church who, uh, the man, I don't, hollers, screams. I don't know how to describe it.

And at first, First, it really bothered me because I thought, this guy's a distraction. I'm, how am I going to confront this guy? But after a while, once I got to know him and realized his personality and he's a real emotional person and he, you know what, it's just kind of how it is. And the more I really studied for I confront him, there's way more about shouting in the Bible than there is singing. And I thought, you know what, we have a shouting section.

And I invited him to be a part of our Holy Roar class. he can't sing if he's listening. Sorry, brother. But I love your attempt, but he shouts well. Oh, he does. And so we've done a couple songs where I'm like. And who's gotten mentioned more than them during the last day? Every time I was...

He usually just shouts Jesus, which is awesome, which is always right. Let's take quick break. So I guess we need to get to John 6th because that's where we are. I thought it was interesting, Dad. You know, there's a saying. I don't know if you said it or mom said it. but I've always heard it growing up. If you feed them, they will come, right?

That's a old old old, I mean. Well, think about how many special moments over something like singing that you have over a meal, even what we did for Mother's Day. We go out there, even though we forgot the jelly. I mean, we're all gathering up around the meal. Even our show that was on for years, even though most of the spiritual religious stuff

was edited out of our personalities. They put that meal and that prayer, which became kind of the signature moment. People equated us with being people of faith for that one reason. I've always wished that they would have run more of the spiritual things we said, but they cut them out. I said, where are y'all from? They said, New York and San Francisco. I said, I get it.

I think it was L.A. L.A. Close to know. Oh, Sam. Yeah, L.A. and New York. I'm like, and y'all are, you don't want me to say in Jesus' name, amen? They're like, that's right. Yeah.

So I gave my prayer one time. You know, I said, Lord, I pray that you give these people time to repent before you burn them in hell for not using your son's name and a prayer. We're trying to make a point. It might have been. And I got done. I said, in his name, I do pray. Amen.

I looked up in the film crew looking at me. They're like, Mr. Robinson, could you give us another prayer? Maybe tone it down a little. That's why I'm not going to make the cut. But in a way, in a way, it was kind of, it worked out, you know, which God works everything out for his glory. But it worked out even better in the sense that I think it made people seek that part out more. You know, it was because there was something about it and they weren't sure.

I mean, it was a lot of funny stuff, a lot of goofy stuff. But there was something there were, there was something emanating out of the show. That's where this podcast came from. We had an effect on the producers and all. Sure, yeah, and the world. But you got to remember my philosophy. I won the sound man over to God, old birds, one of them. That was another show.

His deal was, how come I never hear any of y'all cuss? He said, I've been all over the world filming people. He said, not one cuss word. He said, I know you're doing it because I've got you miced up and I'm listening for a slip of the tongue, somebody to use profanity, Mr. Roberts, and in your family group. He said, I've never heard anybody. to use any profanity but us the ones who are filming the show and he said i've got you all miced up

do does anyone ever curse do they use i said no he said why i said because this is the most vile production crew i haven't been around i said i'll talk to you about that later on it was later on later on i sat down with him and i explained to him jesus his death for his sins and his resurrection converted because originally he was intrigued by not hearing cursing and when I told him why he was converted and to this day he still keeps in touch with me in between film shoots and he's doing great. It was weird all those awkward conversations we had because they would drop a F bomb and then they're like oh I'm sorry you know that happened so many times.

He said I'm finding people they're coming in here and they're telling us don't be cursing around these people. They don't do it. They really tried, but you just can't. Nah. You know, I was like, love. Too much L.A. and too much New York City. But what I was going to say is my philosophy, and I think maybe the reason that it happened the way it did, is I think the key to finding Jesus is getting him out of a church building in the real life. And even where we were just at in John 5, getting him out of the Bible, where it's not a book, you know, of rules. Well, fire it up, Jay's.

Get on John chapter 6 and elaborate. Well, we're here. I love this. I mean, this is deemed a controversial chapter. People avoid this like the plague. Because later in John 6th, when Jesus says this profound statement, 53, I'll tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink in his blood, you know, you have no life. animals.

Well, right, because you hear these cool stories. He feeds the 5,000, which we'll get into. He walks on the water. Then he starts talking about, I'm the bread of life. Well, all of a sudden, you're like, no, this is cool. This is going on. This is getting weird. This is getting weird.

Then he's like, unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood. And then they're like, okay, this is a cult. Then they get in the conversation about, you know, the demons. And yeah, he's so, but I don't really blame them. I mean, if I heard that today, I would probably be, because you know how we are, we're so skeptical, even about different denominations, I was going to say religions, but even different denominations around Jesus, you go visit somewhere and you're kind of waiting for the, no, let me see, this is good, okay, and then you're like, I don't know about that now.

And that's just kind of how human beings are wired. You tend to think negatively about it. You set the stage properly because it starts in verse 2, John 6.2, a great crowd of people followed him. So the question is right. Well, wait a minute now. It actually starts in one where it says they crossed on the far shore of the Sea of Galilee. Look, where I've been, I was here. And so I saw this.

Could you see the other bank? Yes. I immediately thought of this story. No, it's way off. but it's like a big bowl with like a ridge, another ridge, another, it's like the higher you go up, you just see more, but you can see the entire sea. Now, it's about as far as you can see, and the ridge is in the background, but it's like it keeps. It's more like a giant lake.

Yeah, that's what it's kind of what it felt like. I mean, giant, giant, giant lake, but you can see across on the other side. Yeah, which is interesting. So, so the great crowd of people follow. and because, here's the reason why, they saw the miraculous science he had performed on the 6th. So to your point, it's, you know, the crowds are big when stuff's going on and it looks like, man, this is exciting. And by the time we get to the end of Chapter 6, that crowd starts getting small again. This is an ancient woodstock event.

But he did clarify. He clarified, and I know I've read this another podcast, but I really like this. he clarified in verse 26 because he said, because they looked up and said, well, how did you get here? Because that's why I think it's important for being there. Because you can pretty much figure out how people got from point A to point B, because you can see the whole sea of Galilee,

even though you're looking a few miles, I guess. Because they, in verse 25, he said, when they found him on the other side of the lake? Right. They asked him, well, when did you get here? because you could pretty much have somebody watching in and out. I got on a boat and rode one side and down the other, took me all day. So Jesus answered, I tell you the truth, and he kind of clarifies this.

One, he says the miraculous signs, but he says, you're looking for me not because you saw miraculous signs, which seems to be in contrast to what he just said, but because you ate the lows and had your fill. It's even worse than we thought. I mean... They're falling in the grub. That food is good. This bread does need jelly. Yeah.

Which is why I wanted to tell that. I told you, I said, I'm going to tell you a story because I knew we were at. Because as good as that biscuit was, I thought it needs the jelly or it's not complete. I mean, I didn't pull a feel at when I was about 12 and you were real early in your faith. And it was probably an embarrassing moment as you look back now. but Kay forgot one of the ingredients in the biscuits and we were all, because we had to wait for Phil to go first, you know, he gets the biscuits.

He took one bite, and so then everybody else can join in. And he grabbed the pan, open the door, do it out in the yard. I don't remember that. Oh, I remember. I knew that one. I remember. Because Kay was like, what happened?

That's when my faith was a little weak. Well, yeah, I told you. We were young. It was. Now I'm just taking it. Well, I don't know. kill you let's eat it yeah you threw it out and was like something ain't right

she's like well I didn't have such and such ingredient and I tried to just slip it by you you don't sleep it by him that's one of the poorest reflections on me I've heard lately I know it was a sad how old was it 30 well I was probably 10 or 12 so

but I remember it I thought man I would have eaten that biscuit despite the missing ingredient because I was hungry but these people are after the grub which with the old saying Ms. K's, if you feed them, they will come. There is something to be said about that. Well, there's an application right here to all churches.

People come for the blessings instead of the blessing giver. That's right, which we've talked about for it. Let's take a quick break. Jay, she's doing good. Well, I've said the same thing about the miracles a hundred times. And look, I've gotten a few emails about it because they're like, so you don't believe in miracles? You've missed the entire point. So I'll say it again.

Having Jesus as your Lord and being on a friendly basis as in, he said, you know, I will never leave you or forsake you. I will protect you. I know your name. I will be your shepherd. If you have him who is capable of doing miracles, what do you actually need the miracles for? I'm not, if he wants to give me one, great. I guess I have something greater than that miracle, which is the point he was trying to share here. Well, and look, the reason you're right is because you look at verse 5, and I love this,

Jesus never misses an opportunity to disciple and teach his disciples. Verse 5 says, Jesus looks up, so he sees this great crowd coming, like Jay said. You can imagine coming around the deal to be there with him. And he looks to Philip, you know, and remember Philip was one of the first disciples, and he says, where should we buy bread for these people to eat? And then it's saying, how are we going to feed this stuff? this bunch. Well, and then he asked this to test him, before he already had in mind

what he was going to do. So I love that about Jesus. He knew what he's about to do, but he he nuds, you know, he gave a little nudge there. But look, Philip says, eight months' wages would not buy enough for anybody, everybody to have one bite. He's like,

what are you talking about? You're crazy. But then I love, look at Andrew, who was another one of the first ones, he says, and this is Peter's brother, here's a boy with five barley loaves and two small fish, but how far will that go among so many? But I like it because it shows he had a little bit of faith. Like, well, here's some stuff. But, I mean, you know, it's almost like he's embarrassed, but at the same time.

It might, I don't think it would make it past the first row there. Exactly. Well, it's almost absurd. Right. But here's the point. And just to go off what I was just saying, here's what people miss, what they missed, and here's what people I think in the church miss about these stories. If you go through the whole chapter and you pick out the supernatural powers that Jesus showed

that they missed, and I'll give you an example. I'll give you a few examples. In verse six, it says, he asked this only to test him, and here's the phrase, for he already had in mind what he was going to do. I mean, that's God's. already, he has the plan. He knows what he's going to do. But if you had got caught up in the question, he already knew because he knows. He has the capabilities to know at different levels what's going to happen, what, you know, what didn't happen, what should happen, what I'm going to do. So there's one. Here's another one. In verse 15, Jesus, knowing that they intends, tended to come and make him king by force, which I know we'll get into this later,

withdrew again to a mountain by himself. You know, it's kind of hard to hem up a person who knows the future. He's certainly not like any local politicians. Because he says, they want to make me king. I'm heading to the hills. And he runs away from the crowd. He gets you out of there. That's exactly right.

And then in verse 19, you know, when he actually walked on the water, and I'm not, I didn't even read where he actually somehow made the bread and fish multiply without anybody really noticing it. I think it's just appearing on the ground and it just keeps, it's like a fast-growing plant. And so then you do that. Then you get to 21 and that when he finally did get in the boat, there's a little small statement that says, and immediately the boat reached the shore where they were heading. I saw that.

You ever had that happen? I saw that. You're in one point. It was like here. It was over there. Without your knowledge, boom, the boat moved. And you're there. And you don't really realize what just happened.

What happened? We're here. I don't remember. It's foggy. All right. I've just picked out four things. And we hadn't even gone through the first. He knows what was going to happen.

He knew what was going to happen. He's walking on water, which is not possible. He's multiplying food somehow. He's moving boats. without your knowledge. Then he famously said in verse 35 when he said, I am the bread of life. How could you make a statement like that?

I mean, just what? We've heard it so many times. I think you'd make that the answer was, look, I walked on water. I got the boat from one spot to another, and you didn't even know what happened. I got 5,000 people here.

Grub going in every direction. therefore I'm the bread of life. What do you think? Well, just think about it. If you had never read the Bible, because they didn't have one, I mean, in the New Testament, and you didn't know about Jesus and all this, and we're down here on a river, and somebody, you know, we're eating some bread, bread and fish. And somebody says something to you and says, hey, Phil, I'm the bread of life.

Yeah. What would you think if somebody made that kind of thing? I would have, first thing I'd say is, whoa, whoa, whoa, here. Yeah, I know what you've done. You'd have grabbed your eight. are 15 of them. You're what? Where are you from, boy?

Let's take one last break. So if you go to Matthew 14, which is another, you know, eyewitness account. Well, hold on. Before you read that, because I have one more, and then I was done with the chapter 6. The last one was in 64. It says, for Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe in who would betray him, which he's talking about Jesus. But I just wanted to get that. I wanted to get that one little phrase about he's operating on a different level in every chapter we read when it comes to what we use sophisticated words,

obnicious and omnipresent and all-powerful. That's what people were missing. Maybe when I'm studied with people and I've studied with many and one of them through the years, I find myself saying in my mind, I hope this is one of them. I hope this is one of them. I'm referring to he knew from the beginning, the ones who did not believe. I'm always thinking my mind, Lord. Yeah, well, we don't know. That's what's interesting.

You have to treat everybody. I just always am thinking, I hope this is one of them. I'm praying for heaven. Well, I'm looking at it like God sent him here. Yeah, well, me too. Whether he responds or not, I think God knows, because that was another question we had sent in, you know, and I really believe that. I think the question was, what happens to people who don't hear the gospel? How many have you heard? I've heard that question millions of time. Well,

that's why we're here. Yeah, how many letters have we gotten? And I've just got a pile of them last week. Ms. Cage shows me some of them. Y'all got to remember way too many letters. But some of them, she'll say, this is an interesting case right here. We get a few of the letters. Most of them go to North Carolina over there. They're looking at them. But, but, but, so. Some of them, they say, it changed my life. I heard the story of Jesus, heard you all on the podcast, changed my life. That's probably there. One guy said, man, there was Phil coming out of my mouth.

He's a country Western singer. My point is, here's my, here's what I'm trying. He said, I quit cussing, Phil. If you realize that God's all-knowing, in Jesus Illustrated, he's all-powerful, he's omnipresent, he's eternal, he's love, everlasting, all these qualities that God is, that we're not. Then when somebody ask a question, well, what about the people who don't hear the gospel? Well, you just came up with something

that is so, what happened? He's all powerful. He's all knowing. He knows all scenarios that could happen, whether they did or not. And now all of a sudden, you're going to ask like some question that he can't do something. That's why we're here. Oh, he'll work it out. I got a whole book.

He's making, he's feeding thousands of people with a couple of fish. I mean, he's going to... And by the way, this isn't his first rodeo. Remember, Jesus has been there all the way through. He was God. So he's always been there.

So when manna came down out of heaven and quail flew out, you know, big quail feeds. We need to get into that for our next podcast because we're about out of time. But I sabotage you. We're going to read Matthew. Yeah. Well, I was going to make the point that just sometimes when you try to imagine what it might look like, the Matthew account gives you a lot of the Matthew account gives you a lot of time. a little better visual picture that Jesus is breaking this bread and passing it out,

and the disciples are then passing it out through the people. And so as he's doing this, he just keeps passing. And so what started out as a finite, you know, bread and fish is now going way beyond. And so look, as he's doing it, the 12 basketfuls that are picked up, it wasn't out amongst the folks. Trust me, they weren't, they weren't just throwing food off on the side. This was like men coming and women coming out of dirt. That's exactly right.

And so after he gets finished, everybody eats, then they come up and scoop up. Everything was just falling out here. Well, I'm interested in that process. That's really interesting. I mean, I'm wondering if they were noticing the process or it was. It was a lot of people, and he's probably up higher than they are. I don't even know that they knew other than the food was flowing. Well, it's like the boat being moved.

I'm under the impression, even though it doesn't say it, that they didn't realize it. So the number was 5,000. Men. And then there were also women and children. So, you know, that number just triple. But if you had a crowd on the, I don't want to misspeak, but I'm pretty sure if you had a crowd on the Sea of Galilee that size, I think you could see it from around the whole.

I think you would, I think you could see it. Maybe so. I don't know. Which would be incredible. Which would be amazing. I mean, just you're up there and all of a sudden, this, I don't even know how to describe that, this endless supply of fish and bread is coming from doing this. It just keeps coming, you know, feeding 10,000 plus people. And then these idiots are saying, hey, you got some more?

And they're missing the guy who has the ability to do it. That's right, which is what we'll talk. I say that idiot affectionately. That's an affectionate idiot, which we all are. So we'll pick up here. There's a lot more to unpack in this next time. So we're so glad you guys were with us today. You can subscribe on iTunes or Spotify or YouTube or Facebook.

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