Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 938 | Phil Was 100% Right to Pull a Rifle on a Utility Worker & Our Cash for the Taliban Is NOT OK

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

Phil gets an unexpected visit from a utility lineman when there’s a power outage during the night, and Jase totally supports Phil’s distrustful response. USMC Force Recon veteran, speaker, and author Chad Robichaux joins the guys with his son Hunter to talk about their recent harrowing mission in Ukraine to rescue an injured journalist. Chad and Hunter explain some of the workings of the U.S. military-industrial complex, including bombshell new evidence that millions of American taxpayer dollars are being sent directly to the Taliban and other terrorist groups.  -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashame. This is, thanks to Zach, this has turned into guest week. Yeah, that's good. We're trying to keep it versatile. Yes, right. So we had, we had Sign Lisa on the last couple of podcasts, which is always good. Everybody loves hearing from our different family members, and especially like our female audience.

Bill has just come up. He's hijacked my notes. He's coming up with a thought as we speak. He's drawing something out. Which, you know, real life is, there's just things that happen that are way more interesting than things you can come up with. I mean, just when I was driving down here, I got about a quarter mile from here. So in between Fields, House and where we're at. and I saw something moving in the ditch.

I thought, uh-oh, big, dark. You're like me, and I guess it's just from years of this 30-mile trek we make out here, but I'm always looking, I mean, I'm watching the road, but I'm looking as much off-road as I am. I'm going to put you to the test because you arrived two minutes after I did. Yeah. And so did you see a large critter? No, but I was actually 20 minutes ahead of you because I was.

That was with the... No, but I mean, just this last... Oh, right here. Yeah, it was in between... Oh, no, I didn't see it. It would have passed that. That's what I'm saying. You didn't see it?

I didn't see it. I saw something approaching the road. And I looked, slowed down, because I thought, what if this comes out here? It's moving. But it was weird. Upon closer inspection, as I now stopped, and now the creature, the beast, probably six, foot from entering the road. It was a loggerhead turtle that I would say weighed 75 pounds.

It was dark and wet and had moss all over its back, literal. It's growing on him. Either it's growing on him or he's... I've seen them grow out of them from the water. I thought maybe he had gotten out of the water and realized that he has some netting. like things on his back. And I thought... Well, they caught gilly seat.

He was wearing his own gillies seat. That's a good illustration. And I thought maybe he went up to the high ground because now he's headed back toward there's a pond over here. He was like, not like that. He was like... Oh, I mean, Phil. You remember that time we ran up on the loggerhead turtle?

Fisherman, I guess that's what you're talking about. The biggest one Iversed, I was the guy that had the Tacoma truck and it was in the back of his truck. Is that the way you're talking about? Well, Phil and I, hours. One day on the, well,

when you used to have the boat dock, we come up there. And I think Phil was always inspecting whoever was down there. Oh, yeah. I always,

shady looking characters. He went out there in the back of this guy's truck was about seven or eight longer had turtles. Do you remember that, Phil? Yeah.

I mean, like, because as soon as I popped my head over the back of his truck, it was like, yeah, and you, whoa, it looked like a horror movie.

Oh, these things were like... And one of them, his sides were touching the sides of that truck. It was one of those little narrow Tacomas. This one was in that range. Yeah. I thought, man. You know, those things are old days. Remember our guy, Harold, Brent Harrell, he's the guy that, you know, he studied him up at ULM.

And he said those things can be 100 years old and older. Well, what I noticed about the loggerhead, just to finish that up, the professional loggerhead catcher. I noticed he had about two fingers left on both hands. How was that? I was like... His hands looked like a loggerhead snout. It was just like two fingers left. He had had trouble with him. Oh, well, they'll take your...

He didn't even ask. I just assumed if you only got four out of ten digits left and you're a professional loggerhead. I shouldn't laugh. It wasn't funny, but it was. I don't know. I just thought, boy, you... He was from deep South Louisiana. and was returning that way. But he asked me about, did I know where anywhere? And I told him.

I said, yeah, just go right on up. That bayou right there, a lot of them up there. And he did. I told him where to put the nets, turtle nets. Because you got to, it's, they're tricky to catch because they'll die pretty easy in your nets.

They will. You got to have the right equipment. But, hey, the Cajun world claims. You got to be able to get up and get out of air. Yeah, right. The Cajun world claims. that they're one of the best things. Well, you know, the famous chef, John Foles,

when he came up and cooked for Willie one time, he made a loggerhead sauce become. And it's one of the best things I ever had. I mean, it was good. So I have tasted it. That's the only time I've ever eaten it, but it was good. I was just curious if you. I did not see him, but I wish I would have.

Did you take a picture? No, I didn't. I mean, now. I'm at a stage of life where I take pictures in my mind. because I'm married to a woman that, and I love her, she's amazing. But everything we do, I feel like now there has to be a picture before we could actually participate in whatever venture. The scary thing is, I've never owned a picture, picker. Camera.

I've never owned a camera. Whatever's happened, I didn't get it on the picture taker. The fact that you're having trouble even describing this thing. humans are into, which tells us all we need to know. And now, Dad, this is everybody's camera. And I will say that these things, like the high definition on them, they're better than most cameras would have ever been. So it's pretty amazing.

Yeah, it's pretty amazing. The amount of pictures now, even when we go on. I've had thousands of people through the years come up with that in their hand and stick it in my face. Yeah, they're wanting to take a picture. They weren't trying to. intimidate you. He said, what are you doing with that picture taker?

You're taking my picture. Well, at least they're doing that. It's worse when people walk by and they like put it behind them and you hear it click as they walk by. I mean, I think that's kind of creepy. It was funny because we were standing in line the other day, Lisa and I, Chapulte down there and Foley. And there were two young girls standing in front of us.

And, you know, their kids are always on their phone. And so she's on her phone. We were just waiting in line. And I glanced over her shoulder because she had her phone out a little bit. and there was a picture of me and Lisa on her phone. So she thought she recognized us, and so she was looking, which is what you would do. So she Googles us and she's looking.

Who are these people? Yeah. It's actually Chipotle. What is that? Something, you were in the neighborhood. It wasn't very good. That wasn't crazy about it. Yeah.

I try to answer the ones that already have the pictures rather large. You know, it would be a folder like that. Yeah. And they'll have a letter. Yeah, those are usually people that are trying to sell it. Yeah. Send it in. It's real awesome.

I wondered if they just sell them. Yeah. Well, it depends on, you got to know what to look for. Jason's right. If they look real professional, like they just came off a movie set and there's a stack of them, then that's somebody's selling. That's something you probably don't know. If it's somebody, somebody took a picture and has a letter and a kid or something, then I'm much more inclined. I'm kind of like Jason.

I ain't much on the... Some get by me, you know, I'm not... Well, Phil, it's hard to get by you down here. You know what I mean? but so that's what that leads me to the other real life how you probably people on your porch and you've never seen them before well that's where i was going with this so so i get a call from dan the butler who uh i guess i guess we're still classifying him as your butler who lives up the way and he's kind of the guardian of the gate he's he's seasonal though so there are seasons

where he's butler he's the house guy and like right now his season he's he's he's season is he's the plant, the stuff guy, because every day I see him coming in from the fields out there. Well, he's working in Cahoots with Jay on that project. But I just meant about the gate. And let's face it, Phil lives in a place where people come to run from something or to hide. Yeah, kind of like Alaska. Yeah, so there are, you know, a few characters that bear having somebody kind of.

Law enforcement tends to be here quite often. Yeah, that's where I was going with that. And they've been in the studio. Which is, Phil, to your credit, which, you know, the amount of people you've shared Jesus with, you know, based on your assumption that if they end up here, they must be lost. One way or the other. One way or the other. Spiritual or physical. I got it in my mind.

God sent them. So let me get this message out to him. Phil, through the years, I think one of the best things you've ever done. So people show up at Phil's house back before. the gate and all this. And they're lost. And they're like, hey, can you give me directions? And Phil's like, yeah, I'll give you some directions.

Sit down here and he'll open his Bible. Which I'm like, great segue, Phil. One time, there was about 50 cars when the television show broke. And, you know, I just looked up one day. And there was about 70 vehicles came. in mass, just behind one after the other. And you only have seven acres.

Pull up in my yard and they all started getting out of their vehicles mixed with, we had a couple of vehicles. So here's about 60, 70 vehicles out there and the crowd has formed. So I walked out there, got my Bible, I walked out there.

I said, before there be any picture taken or anything like that around here, I said, let me give you. something that you need to hear. They'll preach the gospel to them. And of all the whole crowd, I said, how many of you want to go down there

and now and I'll baptize you down there in the river? I said, whoever, raise your hand, let's go. One man, one man raised his hand in the back of the pile, he raised his hand. He said, I'm ready. He said, I need you that. So I said, follow me. So I got with him and all the crowd walked down there.

We baptize him. You had a great cloud of witnesses. That's right. It's kind of like Luke 15, the one out of 99, but this was one out of 70. Yep. Yep. So that's good. Look, I get a phone call.

One got eternal life and the rest just watched. I don't know why that's funny. So I got a phone call from Dan and he's like, you know, I'm a little worried. He said, you know, we had a situation. And you know how Dan is. He tends to He tends to dramatize He's a bit of a hand ringer

Well he'll dramatize things So you Not that there's anything wrong with that My family does the same thing So you have to keep that in mind He's like well we had a situation You know middle of the night It was an emergency

Down at Fields And It was an electrical emergency He tried A tree fell, power lines go down, a fire starts. And I'm like, on the road going out from my house. It was right there to curve. Not right by fields else, because once you go through the gate,

there's quite a, quite a distance there. The tree was huge. And it just came down, unbeknown to me. So somebody called up the people that deal with that kind of the power people. Yeah. But I didn't have any info. Well, I just, my dog started barking. I'm going to explain it.

Because you have a generator, so you never lost power. Well, I'm going to explain the situation because this is, this, this, this is a crazy story. And it just happened. So somebody calls the power company because whatever was destroyed, it affected people on both sides of the river. Power line, the line. Yeah. Or the power line. but I mean that place was like a central hub for other people's power.

Actually, the tree that fell going through the wires, hit them together, and you had a fire breakout, and there was smoke coming out of it. But I'm in my bed in there. So what happened was the power company comes down, and they deemed an emergency, which is important because, you know, it's like do whatever it takes. We don't want the woods to catch on fire or whatever. So there's some type of emergency.

Well, Phil. Then wires are hot when they break, they're hot. O'Hill's in there asleep. But now look, everybody knows who lives here. Everybody from the power company, they know who's a place this is. And they know that he's armed. So the first thing they do is they get around the gate somehow. I wasn't sure exactly how they got around the gate without the gate code.

But they have the gate code on file somewhere. Well, that and you've got a, it's a, they can, call it a Yelp gate, so they have a certain frequency they can hit on emergency. Yeah, but they didn't use that. They just went around it. I don't know if they tore it down the fence and then put it back or whatever. And where the tree fell, I couldn't see that because of the timber. Yeah.

Well, right, but Phil's asleep, you know. So then here's where it got wonky. Well, they have a policy that if you're going to be on somebody's property, even though it's an emergency or whatever, you've got to go let the landowner know. And so this is where Dan's telling me, and he's like, so you can imagine, I said, oh, I see where this is headed. Because Phil has the generator that kicks on when his powers off. Phil's asleep. And we have had multiple shady characters breach the gate and law enforcement's called.

You know, we've had a history of this. That's the reason Phil is so armed. And when the dogs go off, they send a representative. to knock on Phil's house. Well, he was greeted with Phil and an AR-15, pointed at him. That's it. And so, look, the guy tells the story, well, we're here to fix your power. We had an emergency.

But from Phil's perspective, because the first damn was like, well, I'm worried, you know, that Phil's traumatized this individual. But I'm listening to the story, and I thought, well, from Phil's perspective, this guy starts off the conversation saying, I'm here to fix your power. Well, the generator's kicked on without Phil knowing it. Power's up. He has power. This sounds like the start of every horror movie or Dateline episode.

I'm here to fix your power. I mean, he's gotten through the gate somehow. It's just one guy. I'm here to fix your power. There's an emergency. Phil can't even see where this thing happened. Well, I was going a lot by his clothing, which he did not have an orange hat. Well, exactly.

This man here is not, has no, he's by himself. No uniform, nothing that identifies him. So the guy's upset. He really came about that close coming through the house. Well, exactly. Open that door up, man. I said, don't touch that gate. Dan's upset saying, you know, Phil's reaching age.

I mean, he's got the guy at gunpoint. I was like, Dan, I stopped the story right then. Yeah. I was like, Dan, here's what you do. I said, I think Phil acted like any person on the planet would act. Including us. It was a quarter to five. That's what time it was.

Well, yeah, it's the middle of the night. You know, this story, I'm like, Dan, if that would have been me, my gun's not going down. This story's not adding up. So, fortunately, he didn't get shot. But I said, you need to call the power company. And they need to change policies, especially when it's somebody like Phil that they know and he did i was like and if they do anything other than say apologize let's just call it even we won't ever do that and they did they were real nice about it said you know we we got to

thinking about that that was just dumb right just wouldn't bear some more just feel i mean what's he gonna do they're halfway down the road i do nowhere near the tree falling the work no you were i didn't know he didn't have on a uh a uniform like you see a lot of them yeah not this dude he was he had that I was just looking at his feet. It got out and the only thing between me and him is my back door. And so, and then I told him that. He was at the back door? Got the back door.

And I told him, but then Dan, you know how Dan is? He can be stubborn. He said, I was just worried about the guy being traumatized. And at that point, I was like, he should have been traumatized. The story wasn't making sense. He's lucky to be alive. and I'll tell you one thing, you'll never do it again. So were you in your underwear?

Did you have to be in the underwear? In the underwear. In the underwear. In the air. Being well known, if you're well known enough, there are people who will come in the dead of, middle of the night. Middle of the night. And this fellow's walking in. All he had to say is I'm with the power company.

He needed a better opening line. So that was the story, but we have our guests coming on, and I actually thought I would ask them about this. Because these guys know about guns. Well, this is a tough situation, but I feel like Phil did absolutely nothing wrong and function like anyone would under that situation. It was just one door between me and him, and he walked up to it. And I was telling him, I said, don't open that door. I mean, something to that effect. I said, get back.

Get back. Yeah. All right. So we're going to take a break, and our guests are here, zooming in, are here. And so we're going to welcome to the podcast. We'll be back in just a minute. Welcome back to Unashame. We have two of our favorite people on the planet.

That's what Jay says every time we talk about you guys. We have Chad and Hunter Robeshoe, father and son. I think it's the first time you guys have both been on. Is that right? Is this your first time on, Unashamed? Yeah, it's my first time on here. Excellent. And, of course, I know so much about you guys because you guys do Jiu-Jitsu and a lot of really cool stuff we're going to talk about because there's a new book that's just come out that features you guys.

But Jay is always talking about your jiu-jitsu skills because he's so impressed. And Hunter is a blackbell. Is that right, Hunter? Are you a blackbell? Yes, sir. Yeah. I am. Yeah.

And so he talks. Which means you can whip most human beings. Don't mess with this man. That's what it. Black belt is a belt. Everybody needs to understand the, what would I call it, and the atmosphere. And in these times,

these people who shoot up in churches, schools. So someone who speak there like me, I drive from 25 miles on down in the woods out there. But I come to town on Sunday, I'm very aware I've got people paid to not let somebody shoot me while I'm there. So that's the atmosphere and I'll leave, but I'll be followed by a certain amount of law enforcement. Men with certain skills. With certain skills. So when we come out of,

of the gates, whatever, it's just unbeknown, to me, it just crept up on us that preaching the gospel to the public doesn't come without a price paid. You need someone there. Yeah, persecution, spiritual warfare, whatever we want to call it. Yeah, exactly. Well, and the good thing is, Chad and Hunter are the kind of men that are standing in the gap for, things just like that, which is what a great blessing. And that, in fact, I mean, mentioned the book right off the bat and show everybody. It's called A Mission Without Borders. I'm about halfway through it because I just got it yesterday, but I could not put it down

last night. It's so good. And I read it. And then I saw Jason there. He was one of the endorsers on the books. Yeah. I got to read that before it was released. You did.

Yeah. I was honored to do that. So the tagline. I can barely read your writing, Chad. You had a bunch of yellow pageant. No, I'm making that. I mean, you know, I got everything working against me. I was a Marine, and I'm from South Louisiana.

In fact, we started before you guys came on. We were talking about loggerhead turtles earlier in this podcast. And I said, we're having a couple of guys on that know what a loggerhead turtle is. Oh, yeah. You guys know. One crossed the road this morning up there, and I said like this, it was like this. Yeah, it was one of the big old turtle. I had to stop, and I thought I was going to wait for him to cross, but he was so big and moving so slow, I thought, I think I can make it.

We were just talking about how real life is interesting, you know, where else can you go and have to, you know, wait and see if a loggerhead turtle is fixed across the road. They'll wait about 75 pounds. Oh, yeah. Monster. Take your hand, take your hand off. Yeah, we'll take your hand off. Yeah. No doubt about it.

So let's get into a little bit about the book because it's like I said, it's fascinating. I didn't even know like the last time we had you on the podcast. And by the way, I've heard from so many people how inspiring that was talking about disease and talking about just the Afghanistan stuff. And I mean like people have started listening to our podcast because they first saw you on here, you know, a lot of people, you know. So thank you for that. That's super encouraging.

Oh, very, very good. And then, of course, Jay's spoke at the gala, this past year. So we talked about Mighty Oaks. Yeah. Mighty Oaks. Which you got to check this out. And especially if you've ever served, if there's issues going on, you got to find out about these guys. Because you guys, I would say, based on me doing some research on what you guys are doing,

I think you're doing more for vests than anybody, including the VA. I mean. For sure, more than the VA. Yeah, for sure. And we talked about that more. That's not hard. Well, I mean, we bring in a spiritual solution. You have a spiritual problem and you bring in a spiritual solution.

The VA can't fix it with pills or, you know, clinicians. You've got to bring a spiritual solution. And since we've gotten to know you, Chad, you send us some really inspiring things that you run across in your travels and a lot of spiritual things. And it's such an uplift to us and to know that God's got you in the position that he's got you in, which is powerful. So I didn't even know about you guys going to Ukraine. and what you've been doing until I read the book.

I mean, because I hadn't talked to you in a while. So that's why I was so drawn to the book. So tell us a little bit about it. Hunter was with you as well, which I don't know, is this the first time you guys have done something like this together? Yeah, I mean, so Afghanistan, when we did the Afghanistan, the Evax, which, you know, your audience has heard with going get a Z's and ultimately, God led us into a miracle, which we've got 17,000 people.

Hunter was part of that team, the 12 people that we put together. Okay. But he didn't go into Afghanistan. So, you know, and that was a large in part because he was needed in Abu Dhabi and he had a role there. But also, as a dad, I would have never wanted to bring him in Afghanistan. He's a Marine. He's an Afghanistan veteran, a combat veteran. But he's also my son.

And so as we built up for Ukraine, he wanted to be participating in that. But it was, you know, taking your son into a war zone, you know, behind Russian lines is something at no father would ever want to do. especially, you know, the fact that we survived, I went to Afghanistan eight times. He served in the same war going to Afghanistan, surviving that. Like, I don't want to be responsible of bringing him there. But the book really tells more than about the Ukraine war, where the book tells to me, the biggest takeaway is that I'm a father like many other fathers out there who loves our kids so much. We want to protect our kids.

We want to control their situations out of our own fear. So the story that really comes out in my view of this book is being that father, but realizing that as much that I love my son, God loves him more. And as much that can protect my son, God can protect him more. And God burdens my heart to do things like go help the people in Ukraine, go get Americans out. But God was burdened Hunter's heart too. And so I had to come to the dilemma to where I was getting into way what God's burdened him, his heart to do. I had to make the decision to trust God and trust my son to allow him to go there. And that came through a realization that the truth is that, you know, the safest place for Hunter to be is not in Texas,

back home in Texas or in the Ukrainian war zone, facing the Russians, the safest place for him to be as in the middle of God's will. And that's a very difficult thing to come to you. It's easy to say, but it's hard to come through in real life when you're going to combat zone. But that's what happened. And now I look back. And it's really relinquished me from a lot of fear that I carried as a parent. So, Hunter, I want to ask you about something because I was really drawn to the Benjamin Hall story, which is in the book. And for those of you that remember, Benjamin Hall was there was a.

he came under attack and two four people I think were killed and he was gravely wounded and he's he's a fox news correspondent so a lot of people our audience watches fox and so they you know they know the story I had no idea that you guys were you know instrumental in getting him out and all that until I read it but in in reading that story and hunter I want to ask this question to you as I was reading that there was a at some point kind of in the operational part of as you guys were planning to go and get him and everything that happened, you know, Hunter gets, he needs to stay behind and do something else. And I don't remember exactly the particulars, but I remember, Ted, you in the book, you were saying, you know, you were fighting that same battle you're talking about. You were

kind of glad he wasn't going, but at the same time, you know, it's like you trust that he does the right thing. And so you told somebody else part of the team, one of you guys better tell him and that happens in the book and part of the story. So Hunter, what was it like for you? And what's it like to do something like this. You know your capabilities and what you're called to do, but then doing it with your dad, who's got this kind of double thing of looking out for you? I mean, how did you deal with that part of it? Fleshly, like the fleshly, worldly desire of me wanted to be like, what the heck? Like, I'm here right now. Like, you know, it's like you got a German short-haired pointer

ready to go after ducks. Like, that dog wants to run. And that's exactly how I felt. But then, you know, like I looked at it in a biblical way as like God has us wait for certain times to come around, right? There's a lot of patience that we see in the Bible, a lot of waiting. And so when I was told that I needed to stay back, that they needed me back at our house, basically providing Mission Overwatch and coordinating with certain people, I was like, you know, obviously very bummed that I wasn't going to be able to go into. Ukraine to physically extract Benjamin Hall. I was, I was very much thinking that when I was packing my bag and putting it in the vehicle,

that I was going to be in Ukraine within six hours, uh, going after this guy. And when I wasn't, when, uh, when the crew is taken off and I'm tracking them and I'm coordinating stuff, I was like, man, like, this really sucks, but I know God has me here for a reason right now. Like, there's, there's an absolute reason why. things happen. You can relate it to combat. Like, you know, if I was,

if I wasn't in this certain position at this certain time, I would be dead. Or if I wasn't in this spot being able to support in this certain way, the mission wouldn't have success. Because overall, what we're doing, we want mission success, right? And certain people have to do certain things.

It goes all the way down from the administrative guys, the door kickers. Everyone has their role. And I really had to be, be patient and understanding what the role was that God had me in during that season. Yeah, and I love your answer was, I think I'm quoting this right, it said, I'll do what I have to for the team, for the for the team to do us best. Yeah. And we've been talking a lot about that.

We've been studying Ephesians on the podcast and we've been talking a lot about unity and how, you know, we have this diversity of thought and people, but the idea is, you know, from God's people that we still go forward, you know, and our deal is to do that. And that's what I thought of that, Hunter. I thought your answer was ultimately the right one, of course. I want to do what's best for us to succeed. And wherever God wants me to be, that's where I need to be, which I thought was pretty powerful.

I tell you a funny part in that story that you guys may have read, one of the things that got under Hunter's skin, and he loves Adam the Roach, by the way. One of the things that got under his skin is Adam that came over the house that night for dinner. So he just happened to be in there. And everybody else's special operations veterans. And C-Spray gets off the phone and is like, hey, we just got a call from the Pentagon, Benjamin Hall, Fox News reporters,

catastrophically wounded, his team's dead, like a wife and two little girls at home, if we don't go get him, he's going to die. Like, who's in? Everyone raised their hand. And you look over, and Adam's there. Who is his hand raised? They're like, hey, do you know how to drive?

You want to drive? Like, come on, you come with us. So Hunter's like, you know, a combat veteran. Adam's a baseball player. And Hunter's like, what the heck? Like, I'm like the veteran. Adam just came over for dinner. He's never even served in the military.

How's he getting to go? And I'm having to stay back. Adam was in my vehicle and came out. Man, props to him for just saddle a lip and coming with us. That's amazing. I didn't know what he threw himself into. Well, exactly. I think I would have had to say, look, if we need a baseball game breaks out over there,

we'll call you. If it's baton practice, yes. No, I did not. All hands on deck, man. If you're there and you're able-bodied, we're taking you. And I can't imagine that because you guys, like, that was a hairy story. Like some of the things you face with the checkpoints and all the stuff.

I mean, that would have been something. To do that not as a comeback guy, I can't imagine that. I was wondering, are you nervous in those moments? You're going through these checkpoints. I mean, what is the, I know the adrenaline has to be pumping, but how would you describe that? Is it more nerves or? I mean, it's just like what anything does, right? Like, I mean, if somebody goes out in the first duck hunt with you guys, they're probably nervous.

They can't even get their, they can't even get the, you know, a barrel point at the ducks because they're, they're shaking, right? But what you've done it so many times is nothing, right? So, like, I've done eight deployments to Afghanistan. I've done over 100 operations of a as an AFO, like working as a singleton, going by myself out, you know, you know, along the Taliban and stuff like that. So there's a certain level of composure that comes with that. And you just get used to that kind of environment, you know, like, and you kind of know what you're, where your fears are, what the realities are, what can and cannot happen. So it brings some composure there.

But there's always like an element of risk. I mean, when you're going out in a place like Ukraine, these people are, the biggest danger, it wasn't the Russians. The biggest danger is the local Ukrainians who scared to death. They're not the military. They're people who took arms up as a militia in their neighborhood to put a checkpoint to protect your wives and kids in their neighborhood. So they're sitting there with a shotgun and a machete and a hunting rifle.

And you roll up in the middle of the night in them. And now we're like fighting. age males. They're already told that Russians have American passports and pretending to be NGOs. And so to them, we're potentially going to kill them. And so that's where the real day. So knowing how to be calm those moments, knowing that calm them down and let them do what they need to do, just takes a lot of experience. And unfortunately, Ukraine, there was a lot of younger veterans who went out and tried to, there was no criteria to go out there. So you could just go out as NGO and do that. And there was incidents where U.S. American veterans went out there as the NGO to help and

wasn't experiencing that capacity and got shot by Ukrainians manning checkpoints. And so, you know, there is a lot of risk. But our team is so experienced. You got seized prey. We talked about in the book who's, you know, Special Forces, Army Special Forces, Ground Branch with the CIA, a couple of our guys with CIA, ground branch guys and a lot of combat experience. So a very mature level of folks that were there. So always scary in those environments, but experience kind of gets you through it. What I didn't realize that I was reading the book is the, it's not just what's happening, but it's rumors of everything. I mean, that's what got me that you spelled out so clearly, because like you just said, they've heard something. And so much that runs through as rumors

because people don't have much access to what's going on. And so they're getting little bits and pieces from here and there. And that then drives up the fear that. that's going on in those settings. And so when I was reading the book, that's what fascinating me because I thought, man, you just got people out like the story you told about dad,

just trying to protect your family. Yeah. So it wouldn't be like these, a lot of these guys just have a hunting rifle and like you described. So it was really amazing to me to think about what would happen if we were all of a sudden cut off from information

and you're only getting rumors or things and we would just band together to try to protect ourselves. So it really is a scary situation. Well, Let me ask you all that. So before y'all came on, you know, my dad, a tree fell, which y'all have been down here. There's trees everywhere. Yes.

Down goes the power line, starts a fire. So it happens in the middle of the night or, you know, five o'clock in the morning. And so they come down to fix it. The energy people, yeah. But y'all know. So they got through the gate, breached the gate. My dad's unaware of all this because he has a generator also that. that kicks on when the power goes off.

So they send one of the representatives to knock on his door at 5 o'clock in the morning saying they're there to fix an emergency power situation. Well, my dad has got an AR-15, you know, standing there in his underwear, saying, now who are you? Because his power's on. And how did you get through the gate? And so they were talking about the guy being traumatized. but I was like, well, from Phil's perspective, how would you want him to respond?

And so, you know, I told the story about, you know, meeting with the energy company saying, you need to change policies. When a guy has a gate, there's been threats there before. When your story's not making sense, you'll maybe change the policy that you physically have to knock on his door. So I was wondering what y'all would think about that. Absolutely. I mean, look, especially, you know, in Phil's, position, you know, you got, I mean, you're a well-known person. You have people that love you and

have a lot of people to hate you. You talked by speaking in churches. Like I travel and speak all over and there's some places I go speak that I just spoke in World Outreach Church in Merseboro, Tennessee and they have a security detail for me. Every now I'm going to speak there because, you know, people that's people that love me and people that hate me. And so, you know, you have a gate up for a reason. And you should have that gate up. Yeah. And yeah. So, I mean, that's it. That's to be on the power company's responsibility. like call, sit out of the driveway, like announce yourself. Don't just walk up to my door in the middle of the woods past their gate without letting

know and not expect to be greeted with a gun. I mean, you come to my house at 4.5 a.m. You're going to be a gunman at the door. It's probably going to be one you don't see too. I had the dogs. The dogs were at the door. Yeah. They're their first line.

Yeah, they were first line. So the guy just keeps walking and walking. Whether you go in. the worse it gets. Coming toward the door. And I said, don't go through that door. Don't try to get through the door. I said, back up, back off of it.

So he did. You've been validated. Then I'm glad you didn't shoot it. I stayed up the rest of the morning until I got daylight seeing what was going on where he came from. There was no going back to sleep after that. So welcome back. One of the things I was going to mention about the book is that, Chad, I think you

in the preface of it, or I don't forget how. its title, a note from the author, you articulated how so many of us feel about the whole situation about Ukraine. Very well. I mean, it really allowed me now to better explain how I feel about it, because you laid it out on the sort of the political side of it, how all of us, the money, the corruption, all the different things are there. You are even very pointed in about how things could be changed and the war could probably be ended, you know, by an American president doing what he's supposed to be doing. So it was very clear because a lot of people out there frustrated with the whole idea. But then you said the most beautiful thing, but what about the

people? You know, what about the people who are there and going through this? And especially a lot of even our brothers and sisters in Christ. And so you went to help people. You guys both went, and Hunter is well to help people. And it was, you captured it beautifully because we can look at the situation and know that there's a lot of things that need to be done differently on a political front versus just helping folks. So, I mean, I just wanted to tell you, I thought that was really well done. You helped me to be able to articulate that to people how I feel about the whole situation. And I wasn't sure because I'm like you. I hurt when people hurt. And then so you don't want to just say, well, we're just, you know, forget Ukraine. You know, that's just a country someplace,

you know. Well, yeah, we have a lot. I get a lot of, I've got a lot of, like, really aggressive, like mail from conservatives and Christians that support me. Like, what are you doing in Ukraine? Like, we, we're sending hundreds of billions of dollars there and Zewinsky's corrupt. And my response has been exactly what I said in that book. Like, if Swinsky's corrupt, like, and you're surprised that a politician's corrupt, you should probably read a history book, right? Like, I mean, I mean, and so is President Biden and so is a lot of other U.S. politicians in the White House that have been corrupt. But I don't, I didn't go there for President Biden or President Zewinsky. I went there to help people. And if we as Christians and conservatives, let our heart get jaded. And we and we don't do the things

that got called us to do and meet the burdens of our heart for people because of our politics, then we should probably change our politics, right? Like, I mean, we should be able to separate like, this is wrong. There is corruption. Our money's being wasted. It's going in people's pockets. Yes. But these women and children are there.

They didn't ask for this. And they're being slaughtered. Up to a million people, the museum has reported. Up to a million people have been killed since this thing is happening. And those people, Americans are there, women and children. I have personally witnessed mass graves of, of, have a lot of. up to 1,400 women and kids. Like, I mean, that's an atrocity.

And if God has given me the ability to help, I'm going to help. And what about you, Hunter? I mean, is, did you feel like your experiences there from a standpoint of helping people? Has that been something that has strengthened you and strengthening your faith? Absolutely. Yeah, I don't look at politics when it comes to serving people. you could be black, white, Asian, everything in between.

I honestly don't care. I don't care what your political affiliation is. I don't care who you support because I know what the truth is. And I know that there's nothing that can outweigh that truth. You can go there and, yeah, you might face certain obstacles on the way and enduring it. But it's worth it at the end. It sucks what's happening politically around our world, especially with Ukraine and all the money stuff. Like us Americans, right, we don't want our tax paying dollars to go into the pockets of politicians.

Like, if I want my money to go to Ukraine, I want my money going down to the men in the trenches. And it making its way to the right people, which most of us can agree that it's not. It's not unfortunately going that way. And that's why people are so upset. I think if there was evidence of the money being used correctly to like preserve world peace, I think it would be a lot different. But what we get to do is, I mean, you're allowing God to do things that are extraordinary through you. And by the way, I want to say that this could be over in 24 hours.

100% can be over in 24 hours. Which is what former President Trump is saying. he's saying that it can be and and he says if he gets elected it will be so he said he would do it as president-elect and i believe him uh and if you've seen if you've seen the response to it ukraine responded in a way that the elites in ukraine responded in a way that they don't want peace because they want to make money uh but put putin responded and said uh which i thought was incredible that putin would respond Putin responded it and i'm not defending Putin here by the way he's evil but he but he said uh president trump was talking about it a peace

deal with Ukraine. And he said, I don't know what his policy is, but I want to hear them because we can move forward to ending this. Like, as a candidate, he got Putin to say, I mean, come on. Like, you never hear the White House. You never hear Zewinsky. President Biden, Zewinsky have never talked about peace. Anytime peace comes up, they pass it up because there's billions of dollars being made

and going into the pockets of politicians in the warmongers and in neocons in D.C. kicking off that military industrial complex. Like the one thing that they are spending money, on that we're giving them is the rockets and missiles because every time one of those fired off at the Russians, somebody's making billions of dollars and industrial. They even brag about that even. Oh, gosh, yeah. All that's made here.

So we only have a few minutes left, Chad, but I saw you recently on Fox and you were talking about, speaking of that, because it sounds a lot like what happened in Afghanistan as well, you with this idea of this industrial complex. So tell me a little bit about that. You were talking about the Taliban and some of this money that's still going on. This is kind of a new thing. I want you to tell our audience. Yeah, it's brand new.

Some reports have been leaked. I think the report came out that $293 million to the Taliban was misallocated. That's actually a really small number. I just interviewed yesterday on my show, the Resilient Show, Sarah Adams, who's currently with the DOD. She was a CIA human targeter, and she's allowed to be able to talk about some of this stuff because she's investigating numbers. We are currently, your taxpayer dollars, the White House is sending $43 to $87 million a week

to the Taliban. in that money is going directly to the top, it goes to eight people, with the top four people or, or sanctioned by the U.S. They're on the FBI's top 10 most wanted list. That's going to be cash, by the way. Pallets of cash are going to them for counterterrorism. But we know that that money is going, these guys are, or so which is illegal, by the way, even for the White House to do this, illegal because these are sanctined individuals.

And on the top 10, that's where $87 million a week is going to fit in the combat terrorism as per the Doha agreement, which is Nal and Boyd, it should be retracted. And that money is funding al-Qaeda, ISIS, is going to, it's going to a bin Laden family. It's going to Belad family because the bin Laden family is, you know, they're plotting a retaliatory attack for killing it further. So we know this money is going to the wrong hands. And it will make you guys, it should make everybody's stomach turn when to say this. Part of that $87 million a million a week on Taliban goes to a martyr fund.

So the Taliban is allowed to use that money to give to the family members of Taliban that we killed over the last 20 years as a mortar a murder fund for their death in the war and terror. They get $1,000 a month in a house. How can't even fathom how this is possible with our service members families who suffered during the we're paying our taxpayer dollars. We're paying our taxpayer dollars to go into those who are by the way, that does not happen for the U.S. military. Yeah. Like for the U.S. military for the SGLI, the family gets a cut check and that's it. So our taxpayer dollars are going to a terrorist organization paying for their life. We're paying for our next attack.

Yeah. So, Chad, why are we, the million dollar question is, or the $283 million question, why are we giving them this money? So about half of it is considered humanitarian aid, which we know is not being used for that. In fact, every NGO that was in, for an NGO to exist in Afghanistan, it has to have a Taliban member overseeing it. So all the humanitarian money is being oversaw by the Taliban. The second half of the money is, it goes in cash for counterterrorism. So we're paying the Taliban to counter terrorism in Afghanistan. Although since then, since they've been there, we went from four Al-Qaeda training camps to 52 Al-Qaeda training camps. There's been a thousand or, no,

a 6,000 percent increase in al-Qaeda in Afghanistan since they take it over. It sounds like we're having a management problem. I mean, it's reminding me of whoever was the head of trying to predict the former president at his rally. We need to change in management. Yeah. Well, I mean, I kept waiting for somebody to say, you know, you would think that a rooftop, a couple hundred-term. hundred yards away from the former president might be a place where there may be a threat. I kept waiting for someone in management to say, yeah, yeah, no, they just, they wouldn't.

It was a slow proof and it was dangerous. Yeah. So when you were describing that, I was thinking about the next podcast, we were going to talk about the new Reagan movie. And I was saying about Reagan, one of his best quotes, he said, the nine most frightening word yel ever here is, I'm from the government and I'm here to hell. Yeah, exactly. Which is very frightening when you think about it.

Can I say something real quick? Yeah, go ahead. I know you got to be short in time, but myself and Sean Ryan from the Sean Ryan show, his show, my show is a resilient show. If anybody tunes in to those shows or goes to my Instagram, we have a link in our bio to sign a petition. We have about 300,000 signatures on it right now. It's a way that you can be involved to help stop this money. Ahmad Masoud is we're trying to get him to come. He is our ally.

He's the leader of our allies for 20 years. Our White House shows the side of the Taliban, but they blacklisted him to come and testify before Congress for upcoming terrorist attack using our taxpayer dollars. And so we have a petition signed. We're working with Congress. So if anybody wants to be part of the solution for this to do the right thing as American, that's one thing you can do as you can sign that petition.

Oh, that's resilience, right? That's the name of your podcast. The resilient show is our podcast. And on my Instagram bio, I have a link in there. and you in the bio and you can sign that petition. We need as many signatures as we can to get a Mima suit to testify before Congress so that American people can see. The book is called A Mission Without Borders, Why Father and Son Risk at All for the people

of Ukraine from Chad. So, man, I appreciate you guys, the work you do. You're always welcome on Unashamed. We love you guys. You have to get down here during hunting season and hunt. Well, it's happening. That's right. That's happening.

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