Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 944 | Phil Ends His Nap Early for Lynyrd Skynyrd, Jase Confesses a Crime & Jep’s Gonna Be a Grandpa!

Episode Date: August 22, 2024

Jase confesses a wrongdoing he did to Phil nearly 50 years ago that he’s held inside the whole time, and Jep announces his impending grandfather-hood! Award-winning singer-songwriter Rhett Walker reveals the surprising and touching way he met the Robertson family a decade ago, and Phil gives the short list of people he’ll wake up from a nap for, including Lynyrd Skynyrd. Jase makes up a song off the cuff that really impresses Rhett, and Zach confirms that “The Blind” has been nominated for a Dove Award.  In this episode: James 1, verse 22; Hebrews 2, verse 11 -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? This is in chapter 16 of Matthew. They all wait the same. From that time on, he has a starting point. Jesus began to explain to his disciples, and this is what you're reading when you finally get to the books over there. This is what you're reading. What he had to say right here. he must go to Jerusalem

suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief, priest, teachers of the law that he must be killed on the third day be raised to life. Now, you know what's a starting point because I turn one page and it says the son of man is going to be betrayed into the hands

of men. This is Matthew 17. It's going to be betrayed. They'll kill him. And now on the third day he'll be raised. And it just keeps going on. You say chapter 20. Started in 18, 19, 20, 20, we're going up to Jerusalem. The son of man would be betrayed to the chief preteachers of the law. They'll condemn him the death.

We'll turn him over the Gentile over. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. By the time you get to Matthew, the end of Matthew, you say, what's the leading edge of it? Every one of them, I put it in yellow, the crucifixion, the death. of Jesus, the burial of Jesus, the resurrection of Jesus, the Great Commission, for what we're told to do, go preach that. It was so redundant that if you look at it that way, by the time you get to what they said

to these different various groups of individuals, I mean, who've now put their faith in this same. Who's now put their faith in it. But it just hammered and hammered and hammered. hammered. You know, we're going up to Jerusalem, the son of man will be betrayed over and over. So nobody could miss it, Matthew, Martin, Luke, and John. Well, how do they miss it?

The same way you miss it when they're called to be there. It's explained. You all need to go with one group here. You have the preachers. You have the... But every bit of it is over and over and over and over, so much so that it. becomes pretty amazing. It really is.

I mean, it's just zero point. I mean, everything he did, I mean, over and over and over, then he'd go back to that. Got to go up, got to get up here and got to die. Got to be buried, got to be raised. So to miss the gospel of Jesus, I mean, you have literally missed the ground floor count. Yeah. Now, I mean, it's it right there staring at you for four books, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and Judge. You can't miss it.

Yeah. Welcome to the podcast. So welcome to Unashame. Well, you know what happens, Phil. Sometimes you have a cold open. Sometimes you have a hot take. It just depends on who takes off first. Let me just tell you what's happening.

At this stage of Phil's life, at his house, there's a bunch of dogs. Women. There's some older women there. Hurt women. hurt women. Barely can't make it next. Slipp and fall women. I'm there.

Whoa, wait a day. Mom's there. And Phil's sitting in his chair, studying his Bible. That's right. And he reads it every day. And he gets up,

looks over to the dogs and say, hey, don't miss this. Matthew, so then when he gets out and sees people, he's like, look, let me just remind you what's going on. I'm locked into a. zone that I can't get out of. I might need to come down there. I've been so sick, Phil.

I might come down there and stay at your house and become part of the infirmary down there that you take care of everybody. You wouldn't have to say a word. You'd ride it out. What's fixed to go from daylight to dark? You said, boy. I mean, when they get on the gospel, dude, they get on it. Yeah.

But it is stated if you count up all the time that it stated, Jesus died was buried and raised on the dead. It's amazing how many times. that's mentioned. You can't miss it, you would think, but you look at the world now, you say, no. I've said many times to people, look, in various arguments, I've said many times the Bible is about Jesus. And look, the response, a lot of times that I got was, it is? Yeah, I know it. Yeah. It's amazing. So we also, for those of you listening, you're not watching, you're listening, It's been, we've been rolling here five minutes and Japp is here.

Hey, welcome to. Let's walk in and had a seat. Sorry, I actually went and saw Mom the infirm. You say what happens when it comes out of that kind of logic. It's making sure you get screwed on right. Miss Kay made the deal. She looked over there where that road turns into my driveway. Yeah.

Over and over and over. I would look out there. and I would see Jepico going to school. That would be you, Jeff. That's you, Jeff. And he would have the farmer's son up here. Gary Glenn. Gary Glenn, be standing with him.

They'd be throwing rocks at the mailbox and whatever. But he got his teaching and learning and a lot of it because somebody would just drive by, no matter what they're doing, if I just pull up out there, Gary Glenn would look over there, and he would see all these Bible studies. Well, now he said, please come see me when I become, it makes it known that I'm one of the elders,

is why it's very much. I watched him become an elder, and I mean, it's pretty amazing. I mean, because everything that pointed to anything, it was out there, and it had a gag limb, was there in you, Jeff. I feel like we're making a movie here. From farmer's son to elder, to elder,

JEP to Jepico, which is a version of Jericho. How it happens. How it happens. You start when they out there, you know, throwing rocks at the mailbox. They're little, they're seventh, eighth graders. I do a lot of that gyp. Just keep pouring it. Keep pouring it out.

I have to confess something, Phil. Well, I started off throwing rocks at a bar sign, and I want to confess to you. I never told you this. I was seven, eight years old. I guess I'd been five or six. but I'm the one who broke that sign out in front of the bar. Yeah. Every day I would try, but I wasn't strong.

Y'all saw the whole two things. I was overseeing the, I was overseeing it. Treat itself. I thought. The good of their healing is when they finally got the gospel down and being preached. Yeah. And when they're going to school, you say, and it actually churned out people who are elders in the church now. I want to get that off my chest because I just remembering it.

Because look, I thought the sign, I didn't realize this is a cheap bar, probably the cheapest bar that you could lease that you had there. This is pre-Jesus. But I didn't realize, I thought the sign was one solid object. I didn't realize that it was hollow in the middle. So when the rock actually hit it, it just shattered. Oh, you took the whole thing now. Oh, yeah, it just started crumbling.

Of course, you know what I did. Ran. He ran. as I thought, oh boy. You did the Genesis. You saw it on. Every redneck kid runs when they tear something up. So no, you never knew, you all never knew that Jason did it.

No, I'm just now revealing that. I'm revealing that. I think Al was there. I was there. What did Phil say when he sees the sign? Oh, he just starts griping who, who would. What kind of man? What kind of, what idiot would tear up a person?

Yeah, would do that. I'm sitting there thinking, gulp. because he didn't think, you know, I had the power to pull that off. So I was eliminated due to my small stature. And since I witnessed it, I didn't say anything because I didn't want to get blamed for why didn't you stop it? A lot of cover up in the Robertson story. That shouldn't have been in the movie. If I had known about it, it would have been for sure.

That would have been awesome. So, Jeff, speaking of patriarchy, you. you've got two married daughters now. We've talked about that on the podcast. But since the last time you were on, there's a bit of news that I don't think we've mentioned on the podcast. May we have? You want to share that news with the unashamed ones?

I can. That made you feel? Breaking news. I'm going to be a grandfather. Hang on, Jep. This doesn't seem right. Well, you know what, Jeff? Now I know why you've been following me.

around for the last week or two. Have I been following you around? We played golf together once. I looked up one morning, Jim, here recently, and the ones that do the rocks at the mailbox waiting on the school bus, their grandfathers. They're grandfathers. And I'm like, what just happened? Yep.

From rock flared. The name of this podcast is sometimes they're just not enough. frocks. Not enough frogs. That's right. No, it was like totally not planned. Obviously, they're both in college. And it's just one of those crazy things.

But it's awesome. And they're super excited. And, you know, Lily, I think, has always reminded me the most of mom. She has her stature and just, she's very sweet. And just, so I'm excited. Well, that was where I was going with that since I've just had another grandchild. Another one? Another one.

I thought you might be wanting to see how I was operating this transition, because trust me, it's a transition. Well, the difference being I'm not going to have a weird, goofy name like you, Jay Rock. I'm like, come on, dude. Look, my name's going to be Pappy. Kind of like Papp. You know, just Pappy. Pappy Van Winkle. I like Pappy.

Look, the original idea was to be a rock when the seas. are raging and you don't know what to do. It morphed into J-Rock. Now, I have to admit, since those toddlers are not very good with the English language, it's more, it's been a few other names. It's been Jock. It was actually, like Jock better. Jock. I've heard Jock. It was actually gay rock. Gay rock. Jay-rock. Or some form of that. So. I mean, you chose a very difficult name for a two-year-old to pronounce. How difficult is a rock? We've been talking about to rock.

That was my name. Rock. Go back to the sign. You know, on this rock. I was going to be the professor. Call me the professor. I mean, yeah. I've watched the whole process.

And, Jeff, I'm looking at your whiskers. And they're beginning to get gray. Yep. Yeah. They are. From top to bottom. That's your number one granddad tip. You need to, number one, state the obvious.

I'll just tell you, I mean, when you look at your children being raised, you'll look up and you'll say, what just happened? Because their children are now being married. Yeah, and having other kids. And having other kids. I noticed number two that my wife went to a different degree of insanity in a good way. over grandkids. So prepare

prepare yourself. Oh, that's going to happen. It just, I just never seen anything like it. Jessica's definitely going to be that way. And her mom is like that too. Yeah.

She just, this is, when the grandkids on the way, that's one thing. When the grandkid comes out, it's like opening day of duck season times 10 in their mind. Yep.

It's going to be good. Well, look, We need to take a break, but when we come back on the other side, we have just been blessed here lately with some amazing guests. And we've got another one on today. And so we'll introduce him on the other side of the break. Welcome back to Unashamed. We have the great Rett Walker coming in from Tennessee. Ret, welcome to, welcome back to Unashamed.

I mean, I don't know about great, but, you know, good, maybe. You are great, Red. your music is amazing. In fact, I think the last time you were on, you actually sang a song, didn't you, in the, in the layer? Yeah, I think so. Al, in his mind, he came on this podcast that nobody had ever heard of. He sang a song live and then Unashame was launched.

That's right. He actually made us what we are today. No, no, it's not the case. I was like, I get to be on unashamed. This is great. Finally, my PR firm has done something worth notable of paying them for. Well, you and Japper buddies as well, which is one of the reasons. We love having Jep on, but it was a good excuse to have Jep back on because you were coming on today.

So that's always fun too. Well, I've learned that just from listening that we're all getting old is what the case is. I mean, y'all are all grandpa. now and you know I've got a I've got a 19 year old now that is in a serious relationship and I'm just I'm feeling it every morning when I wake up I can feel my kids getting older in my joints well my theory rat is that when she does get married which she will at some point it may not be to this young man but to somebody that that will make you a true patriot when your kids start getting married Zach just joined the club last year and then of course when they started

having children, then you really are an old toot after that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just, I've been a get off my lawn guy, you know, since I was 15. So I think I'm prepared to be a grandpa. So I was, I was, it was funny, right? Because I was looking up yesterday because I knew, no, you were coming on. So I was trying to see about your new music and everything you're doing now. And there was a picture that popped up, you know, you just Google somebody or do a search.

Dad, that's when you search on the internet for somebody. So I googled and the picture popped up and it was you in your band with Willie and Corey. And I guess it was from back when the show was on. And it said, Rett Walker meets the Duck Dynasty people. And that was the caption. And I got tickled because I thought, that's what we were. Like nobody had an individual. We were just those people.

The Doug Dynasty people. And it didn't matter which one of us you were with in a picture. It was just those people. So we kind of became our own thing. So I got tickled at that because it looked like it was from maybe 10 years ago. I'm sure. I mean, that's about the same as like just saying the redneck people. Everybody refers to me as, you know, that redneck dude that sings about Jesus.

Who's that God? Yeah, exactly. I will say last time I was there, Ms. Kay had made some jumbaya and it was in a bag in y'all's fridge. and she sent it home with me. And I've been chasing that taste ever since. That was probably dad that made that. Probably so. Like I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

And I'm going to, I'm going to die fighting for this. Don't feel bad, dude. I can't do it either. I've tried many times. It does never turns out as good as yours, ever. And I've even put it in a bag laid flat in the fridge. I was like, maybe it sits overnight like this. that that's what does it.

You know, it just kind of combines. That's good. Even the carrier itself, maybe makes a difference. Now, my lovely wife reminded me, which I have, you know, I have a problem remembering anything, reminded me how we met. And I don't know if you remember. I mean, you might be like me, but when she told me the story, I remembered. So we were at the K-Love Awards.

This was like 2012. over 13 because our duck show had taken off. And so somebody at Caleb said, hey, I got an idea. Let's do an award show and get those duck people to host it. Just think. Oh, gosh, yes. Who thought of that idea? And look, they also said, and let's get Rhett Walker to sing.

I think you had a new album or whatever. So then this is how this meeting went down. This is, this, you can look this up. actually happened. I'm not making this up. So the K-Love awards, they're like, you know, what can y'all do? Because obviously they asked us to host the award show. I think it was the first one. I'm pretty sure of that, maybe. Yeah. No, it was the first one. Yeah, okay. Help me along. Yeah. At the rhyming. At the rhymin. Well, you tell about rolling the dice. I'm not sure. I know it was me and Missy. I'm not sure who else of our family hosted that award.

show. Anybody can fill in that blank. But I know Missy and I were, were two, maybe it was Willie and Corey. Maybe it was. I think it was Mrs. Kay and, it may have been.

Oh, it was mom and dad. Yeah. Yeah. And I, because I remember, because a lot of things, yeah,

that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. A few things. Yeah. That can say, why am I here? Look,

that's what happened. We were, they like scripted it. No, and Phil's like, no, I ain't doing that. No,

I ain't doing that. I ain't doing it. So Missy and I did a lot of talking during that. But so then they were like, what can y'all do? And Missy's like, well, I can sing, you know, so I think she actually sang with someone. Yeah. Famous. I should know that.

But did she sing with a lot? No. It wasn't. Let's see. Who was that guy's name? Famous. We'll ask her when she comes on. But they also, she said, well, our son can sing.

Reed. And so they said, well, let's have. him do a solo so he was going to do the song hallelujah you know hallelujah you know it's a good son Leonard is Leonard Cohen who sang that so we're on a bus somehow yeah no one Leonard skinner so we're on like a little shuttle going to the award show so you know getting I mean we were a little nervous we're not what's what what are we doing here Leonard Skinner did come down and sit on my Oh, boy. That was years ago because most of them are no longer with it.

But we love Leonard Skinner. And the two long buses pull out in my yard out there. Yeah, I remember. And so. You remember when Leonard Skinner, Dad, somebody called, they called you and somebody said, he's taking a nap. It didn't wake you up. No, that was me.

That was another thing. I was like, like, hey, Leonard Skinner, wants to see your dad. I think it was like some family members of Leonard Skinner, and they were getting the band back together. And I said, well, he's taking it now. And we couldn't wake Dad up. And the dad was mad afterwards he says,

hey, if it's anybody to do with Leonard Skinner, wake me up, son. Yeah, he kind of gave a list. He was like, look, if Jesus calls, you wake me up. The president calls, wait me up. Leonard Skitter to wait me up. Everybody else? Let me sleep.

Remember that film? So anyway, so I'm telling this story because Missy told me I was fascinated and I hadn't forgotten it. So Missy, I mean, a reed hands Missy his guitar on the bus as will you hold this. But then the shuttle hits a bump or whatever.

Guitar falls, goes into pieces. It wasn't just like a string fell up. It literally busted. remember this. And look, it took years for that, what happened in that moment for my wife and my son to patch that up. From his perspective, he's fixed to sing, he's nervous, now his guitar is shattered. So we get to the rhyming and we're backstage and, you know, it's stressful and we're not stressful people, but I can't blame him. And I think, Rhett Walker was standing in the vicinity, heard the story, and he approached Reed, never met him.

This is how we met, say, hey, you can use my guitar. Do you remember that, Rhett? I remember that. God, that was 10 years ago. That's how we met. And Reed's like, really, dude? I remember him saying that, like, I can use your guitar. And he walked out there, used Rhett Walker's guitar saying hallelujah.

Crushed it. Crushed it. crushed it, which just shows you you need the struggle. This was God's plan. I mean, James won. The trials, somewhere in there, you find that power of the Lord in the struggle. The thing I remember about that first award show was they got frustrated because I wore a cut-off sleeve, Waylon Jennings shirt to perform on stage.

And I was like, hey, you asked me to be here. you know what you were asking for you know i didn't know you got called to the kela principal office yeah hey i just ran in to read uh in nashville like maybe eight nine months ago i was sitting at a restaurant and all i heard ret and it was reed he was on a lunch break or something like that yeah he lives in nashville red y'all should get together more often well we need to we need to pull out the guitars and just play for fun sometime. Looking back on that, that's funny, but, I mean, Rhett, that showed a lot about your character,

you know, I mean, you're like, here, you is my guitar. I don't know. It made friends for life, I guess, but I really appreciate that. And you calmed him because he was, I don't know how old he was back then, we could do the math, but he was very young. I mean, that was 10 years ago, yeah.

Yeah, he was a kid. He was a kid. And playing the rhyming. Playing at the rhyming. man, yeah. He'd have been about 16. Yeah, he had to be young. Yeah.

Oh, I'd have been scared to death. And look at us all come full circle because then we have Red on and he sings a song and launches our podcast. And now, Rhett, I don't know if you know this or not, but we, one year, last year, we were the K-Love podcast of the year. And we have a trophy there somewhere on the set to prove it. So we've come full circle. You just want to rub that in because I've lost every single award that I've ever been nominated for.

I got nominated for a Grammy and it was a tie that beat me. So I couldn't even pretend in my head I was second place because there was two people in front. I was at least third. You lost in a tiebreaker? You're like in the golf, you know. I wasn't the one in the tie. I was two other artists. I was like, I can you pretend I'm second?

You won the bronze medal. Yeah. Just go home. I don't want it, you know? I think it shows, I mean, because you got to, I think I can help you with this, Rhett. You're kind of the duck people of the contemporary Christian world. You know, we were, because you're just a different, you do you, which is different.

I mean, the fact that you do have that Leonard-Skinnered vibe. Because for years, look, the reason I'm saying this, I never listened to contemporary Christian music. But when I was asked, I do now and I love it. But when I was asked, well, who do you listen to? I'd say, you ever heard of Rhett Walker? And they would usually say, no. So why don't we listen to Red Walker? Well, Phil, you don't have any, you don't know technology. You have to use technology to listen to the music. If you don't have a radio, a cell phone, a computer, or, you know, how could you listen to him? Well, yeah, I don't know, but he doesn't. something other than, you know, put it somewhere else.

Phil, the only way you're going to listen to Rhett Walker is if he drives to your house and starts singing. Actually, you heard him once on this bike here. Turn him loose. If you feed him jumble, he'll do it. Do you have XM radio, dad, serious XM on your truck? Why would you ask him that? He doesn't know what that is.

He would know what that is. Phil, do you know what XM radio is? Never heard of you. I thought what are you? You're his son. What kind of? question is. I thought he may know that.

Phil, are you a Spotify or Apple music guy? No. No. The last time we brought up Apple feels like, well, how many apples does he have? He was thinking of the actual tree with growing apples that you could eat. And Spotify, I don't know where you'd go with that. Well, I'm playing Fox and Friends at the top of the year. So watching TV.

There you go. You found the one vein. Rick. He's fixing to break through. All other attempts. He's breaking through. He's broken through, Phil. He's coming out.

I told my PR people, I said, I need Dr. Phil to know who I am. And they chase that other guy. And I was like, you're chasing the wrong field. Well, if you, Fox News or Gunsmoke, that's the two ways you're going to get to dad. And Gunsmoke's been off the air for 50 years. so. Look, look, I was really impressed. I did a little crack research on what you're doing now.

Uh-oh. Because you have a new album out. I do. Uh, you want to tell us what the name of it is? Days that we dreamed of. Days that we dreamed of. And look,

you actually did, because I don't want you to sound like you're bragging on yourself. So I'm going to brag because it's better because this is true. Because if I didn't love this, I wouldn't share this. So when I looked at his new album on YouTube, and he put this up yesterday. he put up this there's a you did a little docu-series about the making of the album yep i loved it and here's why the number one thing i loved about it is it's real it's authentic and it's kind of the

nostalgia uh behind the scenes of why you did it but it's about your family and about your roots and who you are which is why i said you're when i relayed you did kind of the duster uh behind the scenes of people of the contemporary Christian music world. There's really nobody. I mean, maybe Mac Powell and a pinch. Y'all have a little similarities. But it's just different because it has a gritty southern rock feel. But this song you did is more, I don't know how you would describe it,

but it's kind of a misty-eyed kind of song. You reflect on it. So now with that, I really loved it. And I want you to watch it. It's like 25 minutes, but it's like a little docus series that you and your wife did. Yeah, I will say this, you know, you have different artists that make songs for radio or make songs for a certain platform. I've never been one to put Jesus into a song so that way a radio station would play it. Like, I want to write songs about life lived and lessons learned because me and April were a teenage pregnancy and celebrated 20 years this year on

July 3 with four kids. I was like, I want to write this record kind of about that journey. And we were sitting on the back porch and one night. And every night me and her selling the back porch. And I'll drop kick a kid if you come out there and bother us. Like you better need, you better need the emergency room if you're coming out there. And she goes, you know, we're living in the days that we dreamed of when we were 17 and pregnant. it and, you know, not even in the statistics to make it.

And it made me go, man, most of the time when you hear that you think monetary things and a new side by side will make everybody happy. But those, those aren't the things that make life what life is, you know. And I was like, man, it's not the house you live in. It's not the car you drive. It's not how many commas are in your bank account. Like it, if you have a house that's full of love and points to Jesus and kids, that that want to sit around the dinner table and have dinner at night. Like that's the days you dream of.

And we have that with our with our four kids. We got 19 down to six. And so she told me that on the back porch. We're living in the days that we dreamed of. And then she said, we need bread. So I went to the grocery store. And I'm on the bread aisle staring at my phone writing this song because I was like,

I got to get out what I. I'm thinking. And so I know to most I look like an idiot that had lost the list. His wife had sent them to get, you know, but that's kind of what brought this record as a whole was like, all right, this is what I want to write about because my whole thing since day one has been faith, family freedom. That's why I leave. That's why I sing.

That's why I tour. And so I tried to, you know, encapsulate that into this record. And I'm pretty proud of it, man. I'm excited. Oh, it's, hey, it's, it's, hey, it's, it's, Fantastic. I think it's a sign of where you're at in your life, and which I would say, obviously, a lot of maturity in Christ has happened, because that's the feel I got. I saw one of your quotes, you know,

on why, you know, why you got into singing. I thought it was an interesting quote. When you said, well, when I was a kid, I would go, you know, play a guitar in the mirror. Yeah. And which I thought was funny, but it, uh, because, you know, me as a kid, a kid, mirrors were frowned upon. Obviously, look at all of us. That's always funny. But it made me think of that James one, you know, when it's talk about

trials come, and I wanted to read this, I know you're familiar with it, but, you know, persevere when you're under trials, but in that later, I'll have to see exactly where that is. In verse 22, it says, do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves, do what it says.

Anyone who listens to the word, but does not do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror and after looking at himself goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like but it just i thought about you i mean you're you're one of only two famous singers that i met who at the drop of a hat will just sing you know most of these famous people and i've been in those settings but they're like sing a song and they're like but i mean you'll just start singing the other one one was Carrie Underwood, by the way, who we were, I think, at that same K-Love awards. They were performing, and they said, we're going to do the, you know, warm-up run-through.

And she came in with no makeup on with Brad Paisley, and they just started singing, not even the songs they were supposed to sing. And I just thought, wow. Of course, it sounded amazing with no mics. But I just wanted to say that, Red. I think you've been true to yourself where you're not just trying to, oh, hey, let's, I think I'm going to be a singer. And let me sing the songs that are cool or so it's well done. I'll say this, man. And I think y'all could say the same for y'all's career and who y'all are as people.

I'm, I'm a believer first. Like, I thank the Lord every day that I get to wake up and there's joy to be found. and this world's a dark place and, you know, turn on TV. It's easy to see. But the fact is we're believers and this ain't our home. And so we know that at the end of the day, we're going home to our Heavenly Father one day. And second, I'm a dad. Like I, the fact that I get to have the title dad, you know, and still have a 19-year-old that calls me that

and the 17-year-old boy that calls me that and get to snuggle with my babies. Like, that's the best title I've ever been given. You know, later on down the aisle or the line, am I a singer? You know, I turned down a winter jam this past year because I want to coach T-ball. Like, that's a big tour and I love it. But I think those are my priorities and I think my career shows that. And, you know, I think the country boys need something to listen to, too. You know, I think they walk out of, they walk out of church and there, a lot of them are listening to Riley Green or Rhett Walker.

And so that, that's my priority. It might not be my career to some artists might not be as sexy as others. But man, as long as I'm paying my bills and be home with my family, that's all I care about. And tell people about Jesus when I'm on the road. Heck, yeah, let's go. Well, look, you're, you're the names of your. kids are like an action movie. And that's still, I always stood out to me.

I'm like, you need to write a song just using the names of your kids as the foundation of the song. So I kind of went with that in my mind, you know, because you could see it was like, well, it was autumn. I was running low on cash. The jet landed just outside of Riley. I met a man, richest man in the world. This is kind of a Willie Nelson vibe, but you know, you see where I'm going.

Did you write this before you came on the podcast? I'm making this off the cuff. That's not bad. To get to the point. Y'all might need to do a writing session, right? So look, you call it like the richest man in the world. His name was Jesus, and he didn't have a penny to his name. It's because we've been doing all this stuff about riches.

Dude, if you did that off the cuff, man, like. You need to drive up to Nashville every now. I'll tell you that. He's doing it. He drives up there. But I want to hear it in a tenor voice. For those of you don't realize, I just used the names of his four kids in that song. There's no way you didn't practice that.

I'm sorry. He practiced that. I looked up and I was looking at that. I was like, well, there's a song right there. There's his next project. But it shows you what you just said. I didn't make it up. He's put,

I mean, he looks at his kids as the action, as the riches, you know, which is why they have such interesting names, which I just, I was impressed by that. Well,

you got to be careful, too, you know, all y'all young parents out there, be careful what you name your kids because names matter. And we named our six-year-old Elliott Cash after Selma,

Elliot Cash, and we're paying the price. That's a six-week. That's a 60-pound-year-old, six-year-old dude that is, you know, I think, I'm afraid he's going to start taking smoke breaks on the back porch. That's true. I got one name bear, and that's what he acts like a bear. Somebody asked me recently how I got my name on, actually on X on Twitter. And so I said, well, I assume nobody's really ever told me the Marshall, I assume is after mom because she's Marsha.

and then the Allen, dad says it was after Alan Ladd, a Western movie star. Is that true, Dad? Can you confirm that? I don't know. It's been so long. No, I think that's true. I don't know where you named, Pete. No, and I think Marshall was a combination of my mom, Marsha, and Marshall Dillon.

Marshall Dillon, which makes sense to that. So it was a West. Al you had a Western vibe. At a Western vibe. And, you know, I never really got into the, you know, cowboy boots and hats. So it's, it's, it's a good old out. Well, you did. Well, you did for like six.

months. You had a little face. You went, you was listening to Hank Williams, Jr. I went, when I was rebeas from the Lord, I was also listened to Rebel Country. Hank Williams Jr., David Allen Co., that, you know, that was my era. Remember, you took a big dip of snuff, and then you were just gagging out there in the yard. How you like it now? Part of my rebeas phase.

That's exactly right. Well, I was saying about that with family. You mentioned that earlier, Rhett, and that's one of the, of our favorite verses on the podcast, as you think about Unashamed and what you think of, you know, Romans 1, 16. But we discovered in our Hebrew study that an even better verse for Unashamed is what you were talking about. It's Hebrews 2.11. Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters. And I love that because, you know, really that's more of the unashamed life has because,

he's unashamed of us, which gives us power, you know. And so one of my favorite songs you did, I think it was last summer that came out, was The Man on the Middle Cross. Love that song. Such an awesome song. And because it's so relatable, right, and I think that's what people are going to love about your new album, too, is it's just relatable, you know. Well, I think, you know, after the COVID years, I think people figured out

how to read through unauthenticity pretty, pretty well. Like, it's hard to pull something over on somebody. And I think the man on the Middle Cross was one of those songs that was like, just so to the point. There's no glitz, no glam. It is just the gospel. And that was a, that was a clip I saw from Alistair Begg. And he was preaching this sermon at a Dallas seminary. And he said, and it just, it, it, it, it,

gave me the gospel and grace in a way that I haven't heard in a while. He said, can you imagine you got the man on the left, the man on the right, the man on the left scoffs, the man on the right is, you know, going,

you're Jesus. Like, why are you here? And he said, can you imagine if the man on the right wakes up in heaven? And the angels are like, how'd you get here? You didn't live a life deserving of spending eternity with Jesus.

Like, you literally walked the ground at the same time. You didn't go hear him. him preach. You didn't follow his his teachings. Like, how did you get here? And he said, can you imagine if the man on the right looked at those angels and said, listen, I don't know where I am. I don't know how I got here. All I know is the man on the middle cross said I could come. And when I heard that, I was like, man, you know, we make this thing such a trophy, Jesus. Like if I get my crap together and I clean up and I quit, you know, doing this, maybe I could do enough for Jesus to love me.

But scripture says those who call upon the name of Jesus shall be saved. And, you know, that man in the last minute said, you're Jesus, acknowledged him to be the king of kings. And, and, you know, it kind of, it helped me on my journey before I wrote the song. I'm just going, man, there, those, there's not those qualifications of South. that we put there. There are things we want to do after we become a believer. Like, you don't have to check your baggage at the door, clean up before Jesus,

before you come to Jesus. You can say you're the king of kings. I give you my life. That's what makes you want to read your word, be a better spouse, be a better parent. They're not qualifications of Jesus. And I think so many people carry that around and carry that baggage and go,

you know, once I quit drinking, like then I can come to. you once I quit you know whatever x-y-z and it's like no bring that to the feet of Jesus and so I found that I found that sermon clip on TikTok which is crazy of all things and was like this is the song we got to write and I took it to Matthew West who I was writing that song with and said hey man we got we got to write this clip have you seen it and he had it pulled up on his phone at the same time that's what he was bringing he was going to show me that same clip

up. And I was like, well, I think, I think the Holy Spirit's telling us something here. Yeah. And we, we wrote that song, man, and it's, it's been amazing to put out. It just got nominated for a Dove Award that I'll lose. Don't say that. I don't know if I told you all, we got nominated for a Dove Award for the Blind. Did I tell you all that?

No. It's breaking news. Everybody's getting nominated today. Hey, are you all going to the Doves? I don't, I mean, I saw it on. I found out about it online. So I don't know anything about like how to get there. So I got to, in two weeks, I'm going to the Doves.

But I think it's a different thing. That's a different Dove award you're going to. That's the Doves Award. It's rewarding. Can I say that that Dove Award might be funner? If you're not getting in trouble, I don't know. Nobody important listens to this podcast, right? You're good.

I think they'd understand, you know, I just want to go stand in some gravel somewhere and shoot some doves and then I want to go win some doves. There you go. That's a good life right there. If you can add the beach to that, like count me in, dude. They're giving you so many ideas for songwriting here. Play on doves. That's just man in the world.

I mean, you basically. wrote my new record. Hey, we, we had a writing session and didn't know it. Phil's now got him another thing that he can use to hear your music. Do you hear what he said, TikTok? TikTok. What does that mean when you hear TikTok, Phil? That the world's a tiki-talkie place, and I don't know how to do it.

I never made the TikTok crowd. Missed them. That's funny. I thought he was going to say, ticking time bomb. Yeah, Dad said, it's a giant bomb. For some reason, I just see Phil in his chair like TikTok. What are they talking about? He has no idea what that is.

You need to sing a song about your son. Wait a minute, Phil, just because I did give my debut all day. I'm not the singer. I could maybe help write a song, but go ahead. Give me the idea. Well, just right now, when you walked in this morning and I looked at you, And I said, 56 years old is. Is that home?

It's actually 55. Yeah. But you know, at this point, does it really matter? Doesn't really matter. When I looked, I said, you know, and you, Al, number one, fix to go over in a. He's over 60. That's not quite. Oh, you're not quite.

Well, Phil went up a year. We had a leap year without knowing it. Yeah, and I was thinking, I need to get me out of here now. Lord, because my kids have caught up with me and now. Well, don't leave us yet, Phil. We're enjoying your being here. You said, I need to get out of here. I'm like, no, stay around.

It's a tiki-talky world, but you need to. We need Dr. Phil to stay around. Jepp thought your birthday was, you know, not until Sunday. He had two days away. Everybody was surprised. They're like, yeah, it's your birthday. What are you doing here? So, you know how I knew it was Jason's birthday today?

Because it's the day Elvis died. Oh, dang. That's why I never got into music. Why do you know the day Elvis died? Because it was the birthday party that literally went up in smoke. We were fixed to have the party. Everybody's happy. The candles are fixed to be lit.

And then my mom said, Elvis just died. And that party died with it. The candles were never lit. Nobody cared. It's like, it's your birthday and we don't care. Elvis died. Then every year I have to relive that. Don't even get you candles anymore.

He was, he was eight years old. It was 1977. That's how I remember it because it was August 16, 1977. And Jason's birthday party just, whew. Well, what it did, my birthday became a reminder that Elvis died. That's why I bring it up every year. So that's why I work on my birthday because it's, It's a good distraction from what people are really thinking.

How dare you? I could do the Unashamed podcast or I could sit at my house and everybody remind me that this is the day Elvis died. That's it. That's it. Well, you know, it's funny about this particular podcast, which, by the way, we're almost out of time, is that people are going to say, oh, you had Rhett Walker on. Yeah, we did. Did he sing? No, Chase did.

Jason. We actually talked about Elvis. And we talked about Elvis. I thought that was pretty clever off the top of my head to take his. I obviously didn't practice that. What do you think, Reg? Give us your opinion. I don't think you went off the cuff there.

I'm going to have to. He was working on that last night. You thought about that on the way in, in your truck today. That's what I did. I sang the song. I practiced in the truck. I thought,

you know, that guy's the names of his kids. It's an action movie. And he's at that stage of his life. And I thought, why doesn't it? Why isn't it? So there's the song. The reason we had you on the podcast is we're trying to get Jason's

A pitch. A pitch? Yeah, this is a pitch for now, collaboration. So that's what this whole thing was about today. Well, if y'all can get Phil on it, then I'm in. All right. But I need him to start the song with a spoken word.

He did that with George Strait. Really? He actually sang. You're not getting out of here with Jesus. I don't know how long it takes to sing it. But nobody's getting out except through Jesus. I got that figured out. Phil did a duet with George Strait called Christmas Cookies.

Christmas cookies. I think it was written by George Strait, but it's actually a really good. It's a really good song. It's a Christmas favorite. Hey, we're talking about my album, guys. Yeah, that's right. Not George Strait. Redirected back.

Days that we dreamed of. Ratwalker.com. I know it's one place you can go. Any other intel for the folks? Yeah. Ret Walker at Instagram and Red Walker music at Facebook. Butretwalker.com is the landing pad. You can find everything there.

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