Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 945 | Jase & Missy Let Loose on Biden-Harris Open Borders That Put Their Daughter’s Life in Danger

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

Missy’s anger boils over at the immigration crisis in America since it puts their adopted daughter, Karina, in a life-or-death situation. Jase gets a sweet surprise from his kids and grandkids for his birthday, and Phil’s brutal honesty about baked goods will never go away. The guys and Missy emphasize the importance of family, sacrifice, and teaching self-sufficiency when raising children. Missy sees evidence that letting her children find their own way through adversity has helped them be stronger. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Oh, well, look at here. You are just full of surprises today. Look, you see J-Ber? Oh, good. Say happy birthday. Hi. Hey, Mary Bear. Hey, Davey. You hear, Lulu? Yeah.

Say happy birthday, J-Rock. What? What? That's sweet. So welcome to Unashamed. It's the J-Rock birthday. a special. If you're watching the podcast, this is a good time to be watching because we've got Missy is on the podcast today. Hey, Missy, welcome. I'm ashamed. And we have some very special guests that Missy, I'll let you introduce that are beaming in from Nashville. Well, I'm not sure that the

kids have been on the podcast ever besides just showing some pictures. So welcome to Maris. Hello, Maris. Can you wait? Davey. David, and then we have brand new precious Francis, baby Francis. It was just a few days old. There she is. Oh, and their parents, Brighton and Reed. Yeah, that's what happens, Reed, Brighton.

So I think y'all are going to sing happy birthday, right? We are. I'm so glad you're joining me so you can harmonize with me. Are you ready? Are you ready, kiddos? You want to sing happy birthday to J-Rock? Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear J. Rock. Happy birthday to you.

But that was way better than the guy who sang on the last podcast. Oh, right. I was actually sang a song in the last podcast. We had Rhett Walker on the podcast and Jay's sang a song. Thank you for redeeming the family name, Bessie. What did he say? He's known for, Won't you sign me up? So what Reed is talking about is Jace is actually known for one song

from when we were in youth group, and he would sing it at our house. He was the leader. Do you want to do it, babe? Reed got you started. Yeah, I made a, I had a, what a love that in this? He doesn't need commentary. Just sing it. Look, listen, listen, I'm nervous about singing because I did a country western vibe.

And this is kind of a spiritual. And the reason I sing it is because I had the Holy Spirit of the Lord. And when I heard this song, I thought, now that is a song. And so we were in the youth group and they sang this song. And I think it was Mike Kellett, who said, He said, hey, get up and lead us. And I said, you know what? I believe this song so much that I'm going to do it.

So I walked up there. I was nervous. Heart was pulsating. Is this what you do every time, y'all tell a story? Babe, I'm building the drama. I got up to the mic. If you go to a concert and the singer won't sing, he just like talks the whole time and it drives you crazy. I got up to the mic.

So there I was. Making my singing career debut. You ready, Maris, and I went. No, Maris is gone now. She's totally out. She's lost. Yeah, you lost her. We'll fix to pull her back in with three famous words.

All right, hold on. Sign me up. Sign me up for the Christian Jubilee. Write my name. Write my name on the roll. I've been changed. I've been changed since the Lord has lifted me and I want to be ready, ready when Jesus comes.

I thought you were going to sing the whole thing, that. And that song was what made Jay's famous in the youth group right there. It was Missy backing you up with the echo. Yeah, it was a lot better with Missy. So what happened was I started there, but then as the spirit's fervor grew, Then I just went, sign me up. I mean, I just, I kept getting more emotional about the song.

And then finally someone came to him and said, maybe you should just speak. You want to preach instead. Well, Kellett would always say, Jay's, you want to sign us up? You know, so it kind of became part of the youth group lore. So I got to ask you guys before you go, because I know y'all just don't for a minute. But what's it like having three under three? I have to know because that sounds pretty daunting. Mass chaos.

Yeah, at all times. Brighton, you look amazing. You don't look like you just had your third child. Oh, thank you. She's a rock star for sure. I told that story on a previous podcast that less than 24 hours after giving birth. Brighton looked like she does right now. I just could not believe it.

I thought, okay, well, have a baby next day. Meet the, you know, meet the grandparents' day. I mean, it was something. Oh, thank you. Well, thank you for coming on and making J.Roc's birthday so special. We throw them under the bus a lot, so it was good to do something nice for them. All right. We love you.

Thank you. Happy birthday, man. Man, that was a neat little surprise, Missy, that you lined up having, reading Brighton and your grandkids. zone. That was awesome. Five of them at the same time right now in their life. I was asking a lot. So if she turned me to, if Bright and turned me down, I wasn't going to take offense, but they pulled it off. Yeah. They did well. That was, I thought they just called in. I just thought, how did they call in here? We worked it out. Maddie and I worked it out. So we already, in the last podcast, Missy, we already did my yearly joke, Elvis died joke. So we don't have to do that on this

podcast as well because for the audience you know we record two on the same day so it's two podcasts we get to talk about jace's birthday but missy has brought balloons uh if you're watching uh behind jays 55 when you first put them up when i'm turned around it said 25 and i thought man that that goes back a few years and you also brought a cake i think y'all are going to participate in some this this is this is a what kind of what cake is this missy it is a what kind of what cake is this missy She got up and baked it, I guess, this morning without me even knowing. No, but I did call your favorite place two days ago and ordered it. And it's a coconut cake and it's, I don't know, like three or four layers.

Coconut cream. It's kind of like, you remember the old Italian cream cheese? This is a coconut vibe of that cake. Italian cream cake. It is fantastic. It looks delicious. Well, and Zach, the two people that don't need to be. be eating it are not there, which is...

Yeah, I feel no temptation to jump in there with the house. I mean, I'm glad we're not there. The three people they can afford it are there. To quote, a famous philosopher, you never want to get to a certain age and say to yourself, I should have had a piece of that cake. That was Phil Robertson in a duck blind one morning. They cooked biscuits in the blind. And somebody due to dietary concerns said, well, I'll...

I wish I could eat that, but I can't. There it is. And Phil said that you never want to reach an age where you think I should have ate one of them biscuits. When you're lying on your death badge, you say, man, I wish I'd eaten that biscuit. Hopefully most people are just listening because I'm fixed to eat this cake because it is good. They made it this morning. That was part of the reason why I was late was because I was banging on the door to this place for quite a while. I had to walk in the back. I had to go around the back. Walk through the supplies and the kitchen to get inside.

Oh, to get it to the podcast, to the Lair? To get the, to pick up the cake this morning. Because they would not, they just kind of looked at me through the window. I was like, Hey, Lair, I have a cake order. I'm supposed to pick up. And what temperature was it outside? 98. Getting up to a balmy 101 at some point later today. So. So now we've cleared up the confusion because Phil thought I was 56. What? I wasn't sure.

And he thought I was well into my 60s, missis. How can you not be sure of your own age when you know that you're born and you know what year it is? Well, I said I wasn't sure, but I got a text from one of my buddies because I've actually got a few texts today, which is weird. You would think this is live. But let me find it. I'm not following that. Well, I'm saying usually, I don't remember getting this many texts on the day of my birthday. I was like, well, I will say last year, and I posted this on social media, babe, I posted about your birthday.

Sorry. Oh, that's what happened. So, um. We cleared that up. Well, but what I put was, and most people remember it last year, we were going through really, really, really, really extra. I don't even know how to say however many words, that makes it a hard, a hard year. to go through, and it was all compiling in these last week or so. So, um, Jace's birthday just literally was ignored.

Like, we got up that morning and just went to work again. We had both babies at our house, and our kids were going through something really major. And I think about halfway through the day, I realized today is your birthday. I got over it. And we could not even, we couldn't do anything, you know, but we were surviving. So. I called it the. Elvis syndrome.

That's what you keep that referring back to, which makes it kind of funny, but I just wanted to do something extra special to make up for last year because you deserve to be celebrated, babe. Well, isn't that nice? Well, there you go. Usually, when Missy's own, Jay's is kind of awkwardly, you know, waiting for the other you to drop. I'm not sure if he tells his stories what's going to happen, but today it's just all sunshine

and roses. Oh, I know. Well, she's been in the last couple days, I'm like, man, boy, she's. really just being an extra special nice. I was over my birthday. But I realized how old I was. This was a text for my buddy. He's a fireman down in South Texas.

Actually, he gave us permission to treasure hunt his place and we became friends. But he said, happy double nickel. And I thought, what is he talking about? I didn't keep reading. I thought, because we're treasure hunters. I thought, is there a double nickel? Then it hit me 5.5.

Double nickel. Oh, that's how old I am. So y'all didn't know what that was either. I never heard of that. And then he said this. This is the message. I'm not making this up. I'm reading verbatim.

Remember, you can now order off the back of the Denny's menu for a senior discount. To which I replied. Oh, wow. Thanks, bud. If I'm ever starving to death, I'll look into it. And that's not a knock on Denny's. I've never been there. I was going,

where's the last time you've been to Denny's? I've never been there, but I just don't go to fast food places that sound like the name of a bowling alley or Denny's. They're known for their grand slam breakfast, Jay. Yeah, when I think of Denny's, I think of a name on a bowling ball. I think of a guy wearing, you know, a mechanic. Out, outfit, and it's got a patch that says Denny.

So I just, it doesn't, it's not like when I'm going to go eat there. It doesn't make you hungry, is what you're saying. It doesn't, it doesn't make me hungry. But anyway, if I'm ever hard up, I will go get the senior discount, which is kind of humbling that they offer a senior discount for 55 years of age. I believe that, I believe they filed bankruptcy. So that's kind of bad news. Oh, did they?

Oh, no. I'm sorry. They may still be around. The one here is, we don't have one in Black Mountain anymore. They just built a new one. Brand new one here. West Monroe, yeah. I'm glad Dad, I was just about to say,

somebody needs to tell Dad to put his headphones in a microphone. Phil ate that piece of cake in 30 seconds. You liked it, Phil, huh? Was it pretty good? Dad, what do you think? I've tasted better, but it ain't better. Now, that's humor. That's great.

As he's licking the plate. He literally went, yeah, that was Grady right there. That was a great. I've tasted better. And you wonder why I don't make it to bring it here. Oh, classic dad. So you brought the cake in.

There's no way you could be offended in that circumstance. That's exactly right. I was going to say the name of the restaurant, but now I will not. Oh, classic. Jason, the only way I knew was your birthday was Dad did a TikTok video this morning. Yeah. And so that's how I knew when I watched. to as TikTok.

No, we actually went through that. We, you know, because Rhett said he got a song idea of watching something from TikTok. And I asked Phil, what do you think of when you hear TikTok? And Phil said the world's a tiki-talkie place. Greatest line ever. So, Missy, I want to ask you about this because Jay's mentioned Karina recently, which is sort of your daughter, daughter from another country, I guess. We have several of those in the Robertson family, people that just came and stayed with us and never left.

So we've told her story before, of course, on the podcast. But he mentioned about your frustrations because, you know, we've talked a little bit about, you know, immigration and it's such a big issue now in a political campaign. And so there's all this stuff going on about it. But that's a real life situation with an orphan. girl that you guys helped and now has become our family, literally. But she's really struggling with trying to become a legal citizen, you know, with the work piece and all that.

So just talk a little bit of that. I know it's been a frustration for you. And so we said, we said business says she'll come on the podcast and doesn't want to look. I want to hear about this. Well, you said frustration a couple of times. Frustration does not begin to warrant what I. would rather use as my emotion, I am ticked. It makes me infuriated to watch what is happening. And I know y'all don't like to get political, but this is just facts. Our open border is why she's

having so much problem. She is fleeing from Nicaragua, just the same as millions of other people are doing it. She chose to do it the legal way. She pays her dues every single year. She works in Washington, D.C. at a very large economic firm because she has three degrees that she got from an American university here, full paid tuition because she's so smart. She is an asset to this country. She is living in an apartment in Virginia, paying her bills all by herself. She is paying her taxes. She is getting where she needs to go without a car, the metro system, which also you have to pay for. she's doing everything herself and getting turned down every year. And she re-ups. She'll apply again for a green card and she will get denied. And she'll pay $785, which is a lot to her. She does not

spend money. She saves it all. And she gets denied every year. And I finally told her, we had a good conversation, Jason, I did with her because I don't know what it's like to be an orphan. and I cannot say that I empathize with her. I can sympathize, but she, everything that she is doing right now, every decision that she is making is out of fear for one reason, and that is being deported back to a country that is volatile. And if she is deported back to Nicaragua,

you know, without the Lord's help, she will die there. She will, she will be killed there. because of her sex and because of her age. Those women and girls are disappearing by the thousands. And she has nowhere to go. She has no family. So she is scared literally to death about that. And so when I told her, when you hear on the news,

we need to fix our immigration system. That means the legal immigration system. They're not even talking about the illegal immigration system. They're saying we need to fix our legal immigration system. There's no one working on that because we are being flooded, flooded by illegal immigrants coming and getting all of the stuff that we, our taxes, pay for, the phones, the hotel, everything that she's paying for herself, we're paying for everyone else who's coming across the border illegally. So frustration does not begin to outline what I feel about this.

I am literally ticked off at our government. for allowing this to happen and this administration, they have a lot to answer for. And I don't think it's going to be on this earth. I think it's going to be after this earth. And they are going to have to answer for quite a lot because what they are doing is a detriment not only to us as Americans, but those ones who are coming here to actually better themselves and make a better life for themselves. Ooh, I like, I like angry, Missy.

We need a lawyer. That's what I'm saying. And we need a lawyer who would like to take on Karina's case. We really, really do. And we've had a few that we've talked to. I don't give us much hope. No. But I just thought, you know, if you have a system, there are cases because this is real to us because she's part of her family.

Yeah. And it's like every box that could possibly be checked for you becoming a U.S. citizen from being here for years, contributing to society, being an orphan. she has nowhere to go. She comes from a Civil War, Third World country. I mean, every box has been checked. She's paying her taxes. And it's just, I'm like, who is the person? I'd like to meet this person who keeps looking at her story.

Because we didn't even tell you the best part of this. She educated herself. She got a scholarship to go to high school in Germany. She couldn't go to school where she was at. They didn't have school where. she was at. I mean, she came from the slums of a third world country. You just think about that. So she does that. Then she gets a scholarship to come to America. This is all self-taught. She graduates a university. She gets three degrees.

With honors. Yeah. With honors. And it's like, how do you keep declining this human being? You know, what are we doing here? So I don't know. That, that, that, That's the heart of what's behind it, you know. But she's so fearful. That's why we've asked her to come on this podcast or in some format and tell her story because I think it would really move a lot of people to get behind what is being forgotten. And it's the people like her who are actually working and doing it right. Well, we, well, here, she's an adult.

And so what I said, she makes every decision right now out of fear. she is very fearful that if she does that, she will be deported because of political reasons. And so, you know, this is her choice. She's 24 years old and she has to make these decisions. But as a mom, again, she is doing great at her job. She loves the Lord. She loves the church she's going to. But right now she is very fearful of what's going to happen in the future. And so I'm actually pleading with your unashamed audience here that if you have any suggestions, please let us know because this is a whole new world for us and we're fighting evil right now to get it done. No, and I think it's so good that you mean.

In fact, we need to, even whether she wants to go public with it or not, we do need to at some point get her story on camera just to have because I think eventually her story is going to help and others to change. we had Chad Robes show on the podcast, a few podcasts back, and he was talking about Ukraine and some of the work they're doing over there, just amazing stuff. But he had such a way of helping me to understand, because you hear these, you hear a word, like immigration or Ukraine, and it becomes instantly a political football, and you don't realize that there's people involved here.

You know, these are people who are suffering in different situations. And that's what's happened here, busy. I mean, this has become such a political thing that nobody's doing anything, but people are the ones who get hurt and good people. I mean, wherever their situation is and they're coming from. And that's what you have to remember. Our government is in place to serve and protect its people. Well, it was set up to do that.

It no longer is that. It no longer is that. And that's what's happened. Let's see. We'll start with if you want to tear a rundown of each of the kids. Look, I met somebody when I'm in Franklin, which is a lot. I really love to go to Church of the City. It is a fantastic.

The worship there is amazing. The pastor there is amazing. And I have some really great friends that go there. And so they save me a seat every time. And I get to walk in and just, I don't know, just get filled up, it seems like. And so I was talking to a lady. And it was, she said, you know, how are you? And I said, good, good, how are you? And I said, actually, I'm fantastic.

And she said, she just kind of looked at me and I said, last year, because we went through so many major terrible things at the same time, I quit saying, good, how are you? Like, you know what? I'm doing pretty terrible right now. I could use some prayers. And so now to get past that surfacy, so good, hi, everybody's dressed up for church. And we're worshiping the Lord, which is fantastic, We just have that kind of surface level. It's not really the place to get into anything deep. But I said, I quit saying good. And here I am saying it again.

But it's because everything just seems like it's just so good. The Lord is just so good right now to us. He's good all of the time. But we're seeing the results of him being faithful to us and us being faithful to him. And, you know, we're getting up and coming to church that morning from a tornado ridden house and still able to say all of that. And it's because our family is doing amazing. And Reading Brighton, having this third little precious, perfect angel is amazing.

Her Brighton's parents were there and helping with her. It's just like we are all in it together. And it's what I dreamed of to be a grandmother, really, to just be able to help and support my own children, but watch them do what. what they need to do. And they are amazing, amazing parents to those children. And I look at Maris, and I look at David. And I could go on and on and on and tell you everything they do about their day, but it is so intentionally planned out and perfectly executed, in my opinion, from mainly their mom, who was with them 24-7 and then read as the supporter of the family. And, you know, people say,

oh, my grandchildren are the best. I'm sorry, they're not. Mine are. And it's not because of me. It's because that their parents are fantastic. So everybody in that household is doing wonderfully well. They love the Lord and they're training their children to do the same. Well, there is something really special about, you know, watching your kids mature into those roles. Yes. You're exactly right. And, you know, and being that person, it makes you proud that because, you know, less faces your own kids. Sometimes you just want to strangle them when you, you know, when you were raising them.

And then you see them so good with now your grandchildren. It does change everything. It says a lot about sacrifice that, you know, when you don't realize it, you do a lot of sacrificing for your kids. I mean, think about what you do every day. I mean, especially, I think the mom takes the brunt end of that for whatever reason. But Lulu, because now I've been introduced to another person. with our grandkids, which is the same person I'm married to, but now the Lulu is just awesome with the grandkids. And they all love Lulu the best out of everybody.

I'll just say including their parents. I'm not sure how that's happened. No, no, that's not true. They do, babe. You're awesome with those kids. People have special gifts, and that's hers. And so it's nice when you've been married 34 years, which we just. celebrated our anniversary.

Yeah, that was like last week. That was part of this week's celebrations that we actually brought baby Francis home on our anniversary. So that was pretty special. Didn't really, we didn't celebrate. We didn't celebrate because, yeah, we felt bad. We were all sitting around and somehow that came up. And Brighton was like, oh, today's your anniversary?

It was kind of like my birthday last year. somebody you know when the dam broke everybody realized oh today's your birthday and i was like ah don't worry about it i'll get another one hopefully next year it gives me incendiary to stay alive well i always remember it because we when you guys got married uh that summer we had jason i had just graduated from preaching school and so we were working um i mean i guess it was full time we were interns but i mean it felt like it was part-time because we had no money and so like Do you remember that, Missy? We were poor.

Oh, it was less than part-time pay. Exactly. That's why I quit college and went to work. Yeah, and Lisa had to work too. And so it was, you know, but I thought what you mentioned, Missy, about what you guys went through last year in the last podcast, Jay's read James I, talking about trials and, you know, and perseverance. And, you know, when you go through something really difficult, it does give you an appreciation

for the good times and for the blessing. and you see them in a different way. And so even thinking back, you know, to y'all get married. And of course, Lisa and I had been married, but just a few years ahead of y'all. And I think now we're able to look back and say, man, look at what, look how God brought us through so many things. When we weren't sure how we were going to make it, you know, we were just, we were literally living on faith and love, you know, and how it seems faster than fast. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

You just look up and you're like, that's my. kids with their kids. Well, it makes you appreciate that verse we read, you know, in Ephesians 3. I think we read that in the last podcast also about family where, you know, when Paul was praying, he said, I kneel before the father. He lost to him. His whole family in heaven on earth derives its name. I mean, he's the architect of family.

And when you look at what it takes with everybody sacrificing and loving and being there for everybody and then enduring all the pains of life. I mean, it really becomes beautiful somewhere in all that struggle. Well, it's like my other son, you know, y'all met Reed again. But my other son, he, you know, he was going through a pretty tough time. Just, you know, what we all do as a teenager trying to figure out what you're going to do. He goes through college. Then it's like, now what?

But actually Reed's wife went out and was kind of had a, what is the, what is the a sister-in-law to, you know, to man talk with him. Like, hey, we need to do something here. And so he winds up getting a job, and I'm sure he wasn't making much more than minimum wage. But you fast forward a few years, and he's been promoted over and over again in departments that he didn't even go to school with.

But I just look back on that, and I think, you know, you don't think about this as a family, but for whatever reason, which her name is Brighton, and she tends to brighten everyone she encounters. Would you agree with that? I'm not just saying that. Absolutely. I told her mom she named her completely accurately.

No, I mean, look, when Reed and Brighton, which, because we introduced them, you know how you get nervous when your kids are thinking about getting married? And you're like, well, is this the right one? And I remember Reed coming to me and was basically explaining, you know, this is where we're headed in this relationship. And I was like, well, if you don't marry her, I'm going to have a problem with it. Because she just made him such a better person.

And it was really noticeable. I was like, look, she brings out the best, which I think he was kind of surprised at. Can I add a little to that? Because they've known each other since the eighth grade. They were friends in the eighth grade. Oh, you mean they met. At school. Went back.

That far. Oh, they're junior high. We didn't know that. I just thought she ran into some girl up there. No, it's a story, Phil. It goes back to junior high. Yeah, so she was. Well, I was longer if it goes back that long.

Is that a proven fact? That's a proven fact. Word and to Phil. The earlier you start. Early in the matter. Yeah. So they, she was on the homecoming court. I think it was her sophomore.

year and she asked him Reed to escort her on the homecoming court. And of course that I just kind of got all excited because she was, she was top pick for me for Reed early on. And he was dating another girl, was not too happy about, but I was trying to keep my mouth shut. She might be listening to this podcast. He dated a few girls. He did.

But Ashley, who's Brighton's mom, we just kind of started talking. Like, you know, was Brighton interested in Reed? Why did she ask him to escort her? And I was like, well, I would love it if this actually led to them dating, you know. So Ashley starts putting little bugs in Brighton's ear about Reed. And I told Reed a couple of things that Ashley said to me about how when Reed walked into chapel one day with the girl that he was with, Brighton kind of sighed, you know. That was in 10th grade. When I told Brighton some of the things that Ashley was saying, his face kind of started lighten up.

And I said, Reed, are you interested at all in Brighton as a girlfriend? And he said, Mom, she is way out of my league. And I said, Reed, I think that you're better than you think you are. I think you are. But I appreciate the humility. Yes, but it was like it turned on a little light bulb for him like she might be interested. So Ashley and I take a little bit of credit of putting those bugs in their ears because then Reed got a little bit more gumption and courage and actually asked her out. This is sounding like the Western version of a arranged marriage.

It sounds like what are we working on here. Just a few little bugs in the ear. No, it is a cool story. But that's why I said, you know, in life, your family, you have to. to hold each other accountable and, you know, all these other things. I just thought it was so weird. That's why I wanted to share that story that later on in life, who knew that she would be having a talk with his brother just about,

and it wasn't like he was doing anything, you know, crazy or what he just wasn't doing much. And she was like, you need to make something out of your life, you know. Well, what happened is she became a fan of listening to The Daily Wire. and it's which is right there in Nashville. And Cole just wasn't really excited about selling insurance. I think it's what he was doing at the time. And she was like, you should go apply at the daily wire. And just talking to him.

And they've been really close through all of these years, Brighton and Cole as friends. I mean, she knew him when he was in the sixth grade. So it's been a while. And it kind of motivated him like, maybe I can. So he went and applied, of course, went through like three or four layers. of interviews and got the job. And now two and a half years later, he's been promoted twice and then now was just accepted to a brand new role and position making a lot more money.

And so, which he again thought, I don't have the skill set to apply for this higher position. I need to study more. I need to get some more training. And then he went for it anyway and they hired him. So he was like, I got the job. Well, he had told us. He's like, yeah, I interviewed.

He's like, I didn't even go to school for this, but they recommend that I interviewed. And I was like, well, what do you think? He said, oh, I don't think I did very good. I'm not going to get the job. And so then three or four days later, he sent a group text to our family. He's like, well, I got the job. He's putting that religious philosophical degree he's got to good use with the boys at Daily Wire. Well, I was just going to say, though, that it does speak to the power of family,

especially a family that has Jesus at the center. I mean, even in the book of Ephesians, you see what Paul did. You have all these thrilling things, to Missy's point about how are you doing? I think we should be the people on the planet who say things like that. I'm thrilling.

I'm fantastic. Because then that usually triggers a response of, oh, really, why? And then there's an opportunity to share Jesus, you know, number one. But then he goes off into, you know, four or five and six and just starts talking about life and husbands and wives and children and work situations and just decisions that you make. And so isn't that really what we do as a family reflecting God architecting all of these families that we have? I mean, I just think it's an awesome

way to display that. Because life is hard. To me as a mom personally, if my kids are suffering, if they're going through something traumatic, if they're not doing well spiritually or struggling, I can't say I'm fantastic. I just can't say it. I can't say those words. I know God is faithful and he is with me, but when you hear me say,

I'm fantastic, automatically you know all four of my kids are doing great without me having to say it. And I think I can speak for a lot of moms like that because they are my succession. That's what I put my heart in. into are my children, not a career, not anything else, came before them. And now I see that they're doing the same thing, especially reading Brighton. You know, Brighton's full-time RN at Vanderbilt Emergency for years and had a very successful career and realized, you know what,

family is much more important and I want to raise my children to love the Lord and to sacrifice and be good citizens of the country. And that falls on me. And I'm not going to parent by proxy, basically. I'm going to parent myself and that that means sacrificing, which they did for a long time. They lived in a tiny little rental house in not so great of a neighborhood, you know, outside of Nashville that kind of made my heart skip a beat when I would turn the corner onto their road and see bars on the windows of homes. And I thought, okay, Lord, you know, keep them safe. Reed said I was overblowing all of that. But still, as a mom, Mom, as a mom again.

That was my first thought when I pulled into the neighborhood. I thought, what were we doing here? No, my first thought was, where's my pistol? Literally. I mean, it wasn't. Good to see you. Where's your weapons? I looked down and thought, let me go ahead and get this out just in case.

But, Missy, what you're describing is a very ancient, I mean, this has been around. You look back in the Bible. Job is one of the earlier characters, you know, people in the Bible. And I loved it because it shows you what kind of man he was. And, of course, he went up losing his children. You know, he went through so much. But he would, every time he would offer a sacrifice and pray to the Almighty, he would pray for his children.

And if any of them had ever, you know, fallen short of God, and I'm paraphrasing, that he offered a sacrifice for them. And this was before he went through all of his bad stuff. And so you think about that, even going back thousands of years ago, this idea that you just described, that we raise our children and then our grandchildren, and dad's case now, great-grandchildren, for them to have a faith walk. And we know, just like with us, that's not going to be easy. I mean, they're going to be difficulties.

They're going to face things. But we are preparing them to be ready. And the only way you can do that is to be with them and to make a difference. Reed has actually, we've had some amazing conversations about that just in this last month or so. And Reed said, the way that you and dad trained us to be self-sufficient and grow up and realize you're not going to take care of us, we have to do it ourselves. And we never really had those conversations. It was just kind of understood. You get up and out. You're on your own. And that, of course, when you know that you've raised them that way, you're not going to come in and their life easy for them because that's not what we raised them to do. And so the little house that they rented for six years, you know, until they were able to be in the home that they are now because of what rebuilt it, rebuilt their house. And so that's his jobs. But I just look at that. Not only are they able to see the reward of their sacrifice in a tangible way, material way,

but because they struggled to really work hard, make ends me emotionally, spiritually, mentally, the stress of bills and all of that, it makes you a stronger person. And, you know, Reed was telling me even things like, you wouldn't give us gas money. You only gave me gas money when I started taking my brother and sister to school because you didn't do it anymore. It's like, yep, anything else you wanted to do, it was, you had to go get a job and find your own, you know, way around town to your friends' houses. and out to eat and things because, well, mainly we didn't have it at first. We didn't have that. But he said, I'm so glad that you made me do that. I have such an appreciation for what we have now because I'm working for everything that I have. Nothing that we have has been given to us.

And so I'm just thrilled to hear my adult son with three children to say that, you know. So doing the same thing with the rest of our children and they're doing fantastic. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because that's kind of controversial, but I've said things in the past because I look back on my life, I was thankful we were so poor when I was a kid

because it made me appreciate what I have now. I mean, you just don't appreciate it unless you realize the struggle that it took to get here. And I said this one time in a sermon and got flack for it when I said the most dangerous situation

you can put kids in, is taking them to church every Sunday, having a bunch of money and giving them everything. And people are looking around because they're like, well, what do you mean? You just threw three quarters of this whole congregation under the bus. But that's what I was getting at was if they feel like they're entitled, if they are raised without any kind of struggle, all of a sudden you look up and it's chaos.

And so, you know, it's hard. Because, you know, when the duck show happened, well, we all got money. And look, they did too. I mean, they would have, they would make money for appearing on the show. Well, they put it in the back. Well, they were working. Trust me, it was a workhouse. And all my kids, except my daughter, they burned through that.

Like, you know. Cole actually saved his and studied abroad with his. Reed burned through it pretty much immediately. So what happens is because Missy's right at some point, the spiket was turned off, you know, with all my kids. And it usually happened in a come-to-Jesus meeting where they weren't making good decisions. And so then it's like, you know, I'm paying for this phone. So if you want a phone, you need to go get a job one day. I mean, we went through the same process, but it's very difficult to do, especially when they're struggling.

but I would just keep telling myself that struggle is going to be good. Them finding their way. That's why I told the story about, you know, our youngest son because it wasn't like we hadn't told him the same thing, but it just took somebody else coming in and him having to go through that struggle because now all of a sudden, you know, his chest is out.

And he went through it. Well, isn't that what the Christian life is all about? I mean, there's more in here about suffering and embracing and in persevering through trials. So I think as parents, that's a real tough thing to navigate because sometimes success and having a lot of material things does more harm if they feel like they don't have to work or embrace the struggle and kind of find their own way in the Lord, you know?

It's called entitlement, what it's called. And unfortunately, that's one of the things that's happened in our country. And while y'all were talking, Karina actually was calling me to wish me happy birthday. So that's why. Well, I know we're almost out of time, but I do want to say about Mia because I don't want to leave her out. She had a surgery, number 16, a couple of weeks ago. And I took her back to Nashville before the baby was born and just kind of waited for the baby to be born. But we moved her into her townhouse with three of her best friends from Lipscomb University.

And she, of course, videoed her room, sent it all to me. she is also doing fantastic. So she's about to start her junior year of college. And she has all A's right now. And she's very proud of that fact. And so we are pleased as well. But she's doing really great. She's going to be an intern at a church,

local church there in the college ministry. And then she's also babysitting her nieces and nephew. So she also makes money to pay her own gas. So there's that. well and you know what's funny is not funny funny but ironic funny is that mea you know her whole life she grew up on a television show so like so many people were invested in how she is and and her success and what a cool thing we were talking about this earlier one of the the great things i mean there's been a movie about our family we've been on television obviously one of the great things is long

after we're gone, people will still be able to look back and say, yeah, those are origins. Let me let you see some of, some of those people and what they did and how they impacted our culture. I tell my kids and my grandkids now all the time, I said, you don't know how blessed you are to have a foundation of faith that was put forward and went generation to generation. So you keep it going because I don't want three generations down the road for getting about what we did and why we're here. And really, Maris and David are watching Duck Dynasty. Now, Maris will look up on the screen and go, they're Jayrock, Jay Rock on TV.

And then there was a shot with Jason, Jason, Willie, together. And she looked at how she said, to Jay Rock. Then I had to chastise her. And then I went, she was playing. A larger Jay Rock. She was playing on the little porch, you know. And she said, Jay Rock. She's a question.

and I said, you want me to ask you a question? And I figured out she had a question for me. She said, how'd you get in that TV? I thought, boy, the mind of a child keeps it simple. How did you get in there? I'm curious about that. Well, Missy, thanks for coming on. It's always great to have you.

I love that we got into a little bit of cultural stuff as well. We're going to be praying about that. And if there's anybody out there that has some advice for them, Please let us know. Well, that verse you sent when you sent the notes last night, Ephesians 4, when I started reading your notes and that verse was right there, I just immediately teared up because that verse, which is the end of Ephesians 4. Ephesians 4 or what?

No, it's 320 in 21, I think. To him who is able to do it. Yes, yes. So I started reading that. I started tearing up because this is what, this is it. We are the result of this verse right here because. It is more than we can ask or imagine according to his power that is at work within us. And to him be all glory.

There's actually a song about that. And that's how I learned it word for word. Y'all want to sing it with me? Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine. according to his power that is at work within us To him be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus Throughout all generations forever And ever amen

That's how I learned that verse We actually didn't sing it with you babe you sing a solo and it was in my mind i was with you missy i was singing loud but i didn't want to mess mess you know that's one of the greatest things about about the bible is so many people have turned them into songs and you can teach your children scripture that way i love it well thank you for being here today's happy birthday double nickel well that was my birthday present right there it was a good one for all of us i'm the luckiest man alive thanks for listening to the unashamed podcast help us out by

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