Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 969 | Godwin Created Jase’s Fave ‘Duck Dynasty’ Line & Jase Unwittingly Gets Drawn Into a Drug Deal

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

Jase chooses one specific Godwin one-liner as not only his favorite “Duck Dynasty” moment but a tactic he has been utilizing in marital squabbles ever since. Phil remembers the first time he met pre-Jesus Godwin, who was sneaking beer into a church function. Jase tries to share ducks with folks in a rough neighborhood, only to be mistaken for a drug purchaser. The guys read their favorite verses in Colossians as an overview of what Paul wants to get across for the entire book. In this episode: Colossians 1, verses 15-20; Colossians 2, verses 9-12; Colossians 4, verses 5-6 -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? What y'all been studying? We've fixed to study, Colossian. Colossian. Colossie. We just finished Ephesiex. Welcome back to Unashamed. We have one of my favorite human beings on the planet.

I didn't even pay him to say that. John Goblin from our brother slash sister podcast, which is the Duck Carls. room. Everybody knows John from that and, of course, the show. But John's been a dear friend ever since he came to Christ over 20, has it been 25 years now? 25. 30? The man who need. 30? 19. I'll tell you exactly. All right. January the 21st, 1996 at 1 o'clock in the morning. Now, Dad, there's a guy that knows his conversion. So his memory is doing a little better than ours. Hey, you can't forget that.

Do you take Prevagen, John? I was going to say the man who needs no introduction, all those subtitles would be welcome. Or optional. I've told it before, John, I tell it every time you're on here. My favorite thing to do is watching the audience that has never heard you outside of that Dynasty. Because they think you only speak in little clip phrases and crazy stuff like you're doing the show. And when you stand up and share your testimony and your story and do your duck doll demonstration, they are stunned. I didn't know he talked too much.

Godwin, the greatest line in whatever, how many 130 episodes, five years, whatever, how many seasons? It's, it got weird. I think it's like 11 seasons. Seven seasons. The greatest line of all Duck Dynasty, I think I'm going to go. I give that to John. Got one. What?

Really? They were sitting there arguing out in front of Phil's porch. Phil was mad about something about the water or something. And it was like everybody was given their arguments. And Galwyn was just standing there not participating in the argument. Yeah. But he had a mic on. And Galwin said, my hand smelled like taco meat.

Remember that? It was his random Had nothing to do With anything ever But I just thought This is This is So in the moment of filming that

Did everybody Crack up when he said? We all laugh It's a heated argument Yeah But I think him saying that Showed you Since he was in the inner circle of the family

That even though it appears We're having an argument Yeah It's not that big a deal deal to anybody. You know how most world. Which, by the way, for those of you listening to this podcast, because I know there's been quite a rancor lately, if you worried about Zach and because the whole big word argument,

at the end of the day, we just go forward. John's been a part of our family long enough to know. So don't worry about stuff like that. Like, we're good. We're all still on the same page. We love each other. That's what I was going to say. Don't get more upset than we get about stuff.

I actually use that line for the next three or four years. in our marriage. You know, if I got, we were having, we were having an argument. Now, I didn't say taco meat, but I would just, if we were having a disagreement or argument, I would smell my hands and whatever they smelled like is what I would say.

Smells like. That is some unconventional marriage advice right there. That's good stuff. You know what we've been doing, which has been better. And because we're all married here is when it, Because we're not having huge arguments, but we're having a disagreement, which is normal. Yep.

We've been raising hands. And I don't mean in worship. Taking turns. That's been saying. Yeah, I'm like, when she's talking, I raised my hand. Nope. And then when I started talking. I thought you were saying, you know, just started raising hands and singing.

I think we should. She'd probably raise her hands. Your hands already up. But we're doing it with a smile on her face. And then it's like tennis. Yeah. We're raising the hand. hand and then it usually ends well let's just agree to disagree yeah go to bed yeah I like that

speaking of wives we were gonna have Paula on today yeah but she's sick and couldn't make it so we're still hoping because I don't think she's ever been on she ain't been on a shame I know she's she's been on a duck all right yeah so how is that because when jace and missy are on together it gets interesting oh it does you know there there's some usually a little bit of back and forth and you're not telling that story right. No, it ain't that. You don't ever have conflict. She just, yeah, she knows her.

She's a matter of fact. Oh, yeah. She tells it like it is. Little lipp. Are you uncomfortable when she's on or comfortable? No, I'm comfortable. Okay. She's one of my favorite humans on the planet.

She is amazing. You did good. And y'all come a long way, as we all have. Oh, wow. Yeah. In our marriages. We have. It's a struggle at first.

But you embrace the struggle. The two becomes one. Well, I just remember, because we were next door neighbors with John and Paula for 16 years. So we basically raised our families together. So we were there for each other. And I just remember in the early days, when somebody becomes a new Christian, you know, there's still got all the old life that's there that you've walked away from. But it's so much fresher because it just happened.

And so some of the stories that y'all would tell, I mean, we've all got stories, right? And some of the stories, I just remember Paul telling a story about some old Gavis. that it was making a play for you and y'all, I think we're out in a bar, parking lot or somewhere. And Paula had her by the hair of the head banging her on the side of a piece. This was BJ, right? This is all before Christ. But I just looked at Paula and I was like, how did, I mean, she's the sweetest,

kindest, you know, to serve people, person on the planet. And imagine her with a handful of a woman's hair. You'll break your nose. I know it. Well, I knew then I didn't want to mess with it. And Gobbin used to ride motorcycles and bulls. And so how much whiskey did it take to look at a bull and say, okay. I wasn't much on whiskey.

Oh, okay. But I drank a lot of beer. Yeah. Foked a lot of dope. Yeah. In fact, you were drinking beer the first time you met Dad. Yeah. Sneaking it in the solo cup.

Yeah. The first time you were. Some church folks wouldn't see us. That's exactly right. You are like all of us, the definition of a new creation. New creation. For almost 30 years now, I can't. believe that.

No, I got one problem, one thing I've seen developed that I've got to confront you about. You don't know this is going to be an intervention. Oh, no. This is why we invited you today, John. We just. We're unashamed intervention. Intervention. We just completed 16 days of teal season, and Galvin's always welcome, and he did not show up one time.

Ooh. And you're turning red here. I know. It's embarrassing. Now, either you were hunting somewhere else, which is okay. Or maybe. Never hunted. Never hunted.

You didn't hunt. Or maybe Ms. Paul is somewhere in this transformation of marriage, somehow and other, I don't know. But I won't give your reasoning, but I just thought I'd bring that up. Two years ago, we planned a trip to Yellowstone Park. Okay. And it kept with her brother and sister-in-law. Are there any teal in Yellowstone? There was, yeah.

Oh, really? Oh, man. And so it kept getting her daughter had a baby one time. It kept getting blocked and then COVID. Well, it was when COVID first come. That's the first one shut it down. And then the daughter had a baby. And then this one was open.

And then we planned it. And I said, that's opening week of Tulsi. If you're listening, John's eyes just got really big. It really did. I wish I'd have a picture of that guy. We done had. You went out in a blaze of glory that day, me and you were there. Oh, that I'll never, ever forget that.

That's what happened. That is the most memorable. That was when I was filming. Which is like the perfect one to go out of it. I was filming the TV show, because Till only move at certain points of the season. I don't even know how to describe it. Because a lot of people say, well, you duck hunt, but Teal, especially the Blue Wings, are a little different. They all get up and go together wherever they go.

It's like women going to a... They did that and they came down in front of them being this man right here. It's like women going to a bathroom. You know what I mean? They all go together. Exactly. And the blue wing till kind of have that. And so you'll get them three or four days, maybe, maybe one or two of the 16 days.

Yeah, we've gone about four or five times, no till. Yeah. One or two. It finally came. It was just one man to have. It was just the two of you. I just kept hearing that. That's the sound of teal as they fly.

Because you don't really look for teal, you'll hear them. Yeah. So I tell people that when they're people, because people who don't hunt much, when we've had that problem this year, they all want to stand up. And I'm like, you don't have to look for the teal. And they're like, what are you talking about?

I was like, sit down and you'll hear them. You'll hear them. And trust me, the first time you hear them, you couldn't have shot him anyway. even if they fly and make two past. So one of the funniest things John does in his duck call demonstration in his speeches is about, you mentioned about the women going to the bathroom together, it made me think about it. So when he does the teal call, he'll say, here's the way of the tiller.

He does it like for extended amount of time. He said, and here's the male. And he just stops when he does it. And then he goes in this little bit about women and men and how many words they have. have to say it's a fantastic funny I do a similar illustration I said I looked it up on the Google

a woman says 20,000 words in a day and a man says seven I'm a he does the bag of it's so good John well in the duck world the women do all the talking yeah

well yeah the mallard hen and the mallard Drake you could do the same thing with him that's what I do that version So I wanted to tell you all that to say this. We had a, you'll get a kick out of there. Because now I can give you a hunting report and our listeners don't like it. So about two or three days before it was over, we had old Martin, your partner and former

partner in crime in a good way. He comes down because he wanted to film and he had a cameraman or whatever. Because it was the day after the front came through. And so we thought, oh, we're going to get them. them to why they're going to move well they did three of them came in awesome and uh we shot two and that was it so the next day comes well it's back down to just the bare minimum now because it's like well they didn't come so when i get to the boat house so it's 5 30 in the morning it was me phil and jay i think was maybe we had one other person but uh my phone's ringing and i thought now who would

call it. I could feel it vibrating in my waiters. And I was like, who would be calling me a 530? Because everybody knows you knows, you're involved in getting to hunting. And I had waiters on, so it takes a lot to get your home. And I thought, you know what? I'm not going to answer it. I'm going hunting. If it's an emergency, they'll keep calling. So we get in a boat. And about that time, Jay says, Martin has your gun. And I said, well where's Martin Martin's not he was here yesterday yeah oh no I then figured out

why my phone was going off and sure enough I got my phone out well Martin so our gun cases look similar and so I was like well I have Martin's gun no problem and Jay said well Martin's gun is a 28 gauge which then led me to say why would a man

that size. He's an offensive tackle. He's shooting a 28 gauge. And for you non-hunters there, that's smaller than a 20 gauge. Yeah. It's... The only man, I knew that shot that gun with Sye a few years ago. He shot a 20-8.

And I said, well, that's just embarrassing. And Jay said, well, he thought y'all's cases look alike. I said, no, not that part. I was like, once you become a man... I was like, You put away childish things. Yeah, I was like, this is like, I said, there's a reason boys don't get married.

You don't want to show up honeymoon night with a 28 gauge. Everybody laughed. I'm throwing Martin out of the bus. So I was like, well, I'll have to go back and get my gun out of the truck, which is 30 minutes away now, and I'm going to miss the prime time. The opening, the opening out. So I dropped them off. I come back here to where we're at to get my gun.

Then it hit me. I was like, but I'm going to spend all my time. By the time I get out there, it's going to be over. So I called jail and I was like, have y'all seen any till? And he's like, no. So I went dove hunting right out here. Because you had a 28-gagone? No, I have my 12 in the truck.

But a 28-gays would be a pretty good death. I didn't have any shells. Okay. 28. So I killed three duds. Well, they killed no till. So it actually, I made lemonade at a lemon. I could have blown up.

How could any man? You know, nope. I just, doves are way better eating. They're delicious. My wife enjoys the dove better. Me too. He's happy now. And so in the meantime.

I don't have to raise hands. Yeah, so here's what's funny. Here's what's funny. Good comment. So I'm out here in the dove field. well at about eight o'clock and i had to go pick them up well i look up well here comes martin martin's buddy our neighbor play had his dog eaten yeah by alligator yeah i heard about that yeah yeah we told that yeah and they were tracking and we showed some video yeah yeah had his little

chip you know yeah well now everybody's panicky because you know we have dogs and we i mean the gators it's become an epidemic and they're getting bigger and bigger so everybody's like going in together let's catch the big ones i mean there's plenty of alligator so we had to get a tag we get the tag they set out the line and he was coming to run the line i was like well you could have come two hours later and brought me in my gun but anyway yeah so i had to clean my doves i go pick up phil and them they didn't kill any till so on the way back somehow phil you got in on the play by play with the uh with the gator right yeah i watched him drag him out he had drowned himself on a stob he went out there and made a circle a couple of circles yeah hung up

he got hung up which made it easier to retrieve him they just dragged him out and he was about we have a picture of him he was about nine or ten footer yeah somewhere in that range I want you to check out this picture John this is great which Maddie will show it to you guys you know when you're walking through water by knee deep in this country did you see that picture of him you run up on something like that he's you understand Oh, yeah. And it's got Dad's head in the mouth of the game. Well, they said Phil was given the play-by-play from the bank, which is the wise position to be in during the...

You see, Dad's broken down like a shotgun. He looks like a big cat there in the position. Look how he's, which is pretty good, Dad. You can still sit all the way down. I can't even, my name. You break down all the way like a shotgun when you're sitting down on the ground. It's pretty impressive. So we got the gate.

And now they're looking into, you know, they're going to make a gator gumbo. And which, I mean, Martin's in charge of that. We'll see how that turns out. What are they doing that? I heard them talking about it. And they're also going to look at. I wouldn't eat a drowned alligator. Well, they're going to eat him.

Yeah. So don't tell them that. I'm going to try it, Phil. Turn them loose. Yeah. Well, Jay said he found somebody. I don't know how many hours. He got twisted around that post and died.

I don't know how long they're. it been. Well, I brought that up, but he said, if you put enough garlic, onions, and bell pepper in it? Well, he's found somebody. Some Cajun that has found a way to do it where they're actually pretty tasty is what Jay told me. Yeah, so they're going to try it.

But then they're talking about what they're going to do with the frame. Yeah. I don't know, boots or. He said the head of it, he's getting mounted, and that's going to be the centerpiece piece on their dining room table at his house. If they could get up your. your dog they can get you oh yeah oh yeah no doubt about dangerous so once they get too big i think you got to take you got a thin hurt a little bit so that was it was an exciting wow and that all

happened the same morning same morning yeah and then i so then the next day which i shared about this on a previous podcast a little bit but the next day me and jay went with martin as he said i found a little nest up i tried to get phil to go feels like nah and i will say this i think that was top three teal hunts i've ever been on we killed 24 teal in less than 24 minutes we were averaging yeah that's one that's one a minute yeah and we were just being very very so you went to clay's place we did yeah well they i mean they just descended in there bunch after bunch after bunch and that smart weed that smart weed that smart Weed and they had some kind of millet out there.

Mushhole. There were hundreds of teal. It was funny. Our greatest bunch we didn't shoot. They were so pretty. We only needed a couple. We just decided to watch them. I'd say it's about 50, I guess.

And they just kept coming in. They just kept coming in. If you get the sun up on them when they're banking and see they're flickering that blue, that is so pretty. So it was really enjoyable. That was the morning. My waiters were really. speaking. But then that night, we had, Missy had had her little event, and we wound up

baptizing three young women. That's awesome. And, yeah, I was wet all day, which was really good. Well, I don't know who normally hunts with Martin and Clay, but Jay told me last night that Clay looked at him after y'all were shooting those ducks, and he looked at Jay and he was like, man, you and Jay's, y'all are shotgunners. And so I don't know, he was apparently surprised, who normally goes that they don't hit a lot of. I ain't noticing stuff like that. Yeah. I killed six.

You know how I know that? Shot six down? That's the limit. Can't kill but six. You're talking about how pretty them teal is and how God put the colors on there. I learned something in Yellowstone that is pretty awesome. Lodge pole pine trees that grow up there. Lodge pole pine trees.

They call them lot. The Indians used them. for the TP pole. Oh, yeah. It's a type. Some of the pine cones, a select number on the tree, has a rosin.

And that pine cone won't open let it seed out unless there's a forest fire. Really? And it pops open. God said... And then it reseeds. I'll replant it.

Hmm. Isn't that something? Is that awesome? Pretty amazing. It is. It's got to be extreme heat to make it pop and let that seed out. So when they have a fire, God recedes the earth. And it replenishes it.

I was wondering why you were named after God, you know, Godwin. Pretty good. So I was up in Yellowstone a year and a month ago. And it was some of the most beautiful territory I've ever said. It's amazing. And I noticed because people said, well, I want to see some wildlife. But I figured out like everywhere else in the world, especially a place like that, you want to see wildlife, go to the water. Yeah.

Because every time I found water in Yellowstone, I found all of God's creatures. I mean, moose, bear, elk. We're saying everything we wanted to see. Yeah, we did too. We didn't see a wolf. Paula wanted to see a wolf. Yeah, they said that you kind of go a little further in the northern part. They went to the Lamar Valley up in there.

That's where all them buffalo were. Right. Yeah, we saw a lot of Buffalo, too. That's a beautiful place up there. It's just a valley. They own all that, so it's like it's just made for people to go and look at, which is pretty amazing. For what Roosevelt built that arch, we went and looked at it.

Yep. 1872. Let me see if I can find it. I highly recommend. It built it in 1872? It was a part, at first part. You think they would let me treasure hunt out? Well, Daddy always told me you don't know what you get by with until you try it.

I thought you're just going to say no. He built his arch at Gainer, I think Gainer. That's where they used to come in from the north side. And the art says, for the benefit and enjoyment of the people, and that's where you go in. That's the way that, when they go in in wagons. Did you go to O'Faithful? I was a little underwhelmed, only because, like,

I don't know what I was expecting. but it just was basically some hot steam that came up and we'd waited there an hour to watch it and I just thought I mean the whole area was beautiful and amazing with all the steam but I just kind of thought it would be something bigger I don't know were you were you happy with it I liked it I found it well there were a lot of people fell in there were a lot of Asians they were uh yeah a lot of Asian people were yeah it was yeah they came from another country to see it they did and look I'm sure there's nothing like that where they're from So I get it.

We was walking like 8,000 steps a day on average. Oh, yeah. Walking them board walks. You reminded you when we were in Utah that time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because it was the same kind of territory. Well, Godwin gave us our segue. All right.

We're in the book of Colossians. We are starting the book of Colise. You're here on new book day, John. Well, I got a new book to study now. But you know what made me think when you said they had the archway and what was the slogan? for the benefit and enjoyment of the people. Yeah. Well, you just described the book of Colossians.

Yep, you gave us our tagline. But with Christ being as the center, because you think about, you know, when I read Colossians numerous times preparing for this, I think I got to, when I got to chapter four, which we're just, we're not going in order. This is the first time we've even talked about. Yeah, we're just going to kind of do an over there.

You know, when he gets to the end here in chapter four, he says, devote yourselves to prayer, which is not unlike Ephesians when he got to the end. He started talking about prayer a lot, being watchful and thankful, which is kind of two things I experience in the duck line, but, you know, it makes me realize in my Christian life, there's a lot of things I need to be watchful for and to be thankful for. And pray for us, too, that God may open the door for our message so that we may be proclaim the mystery of Christ for which I am in chains. So you kind of get the context of his writing.

And I think it was more kind of like a house arrest situation than being in a prison, but I mean, he can't leave. Then it says, pray that I may proclaim it clearly as I should. Be wise in the way you act towards outsiders, making the most of ever opportunity. Let your conversation be always full of grace. Season with salt, which we can talk about what that may mean. Yep. But here was the line I was trying to get at,

so that you may know how to answer everyone. And there's some other passages in Colossians also that makes me just thought, you know, this is for everybody. Yeah. And you remember in chapter one where he said, all over the world, I think this is verse 23. this is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven. I mean, this is for everybody.

I think we forget that sometimes. Even the day we shot all the ducks, I didn't realize, because I wasn't thinking, what if we kill a bunch? Because I had a treasure hunt lined up after the duck hunt. But we killed full limits. so everybody took their limit. It was kind of like everybody take their ducks. But I'm like, well, I'm fixed to go treasure hunting.

So what am I going to do with these six ducks? So I thought, well, what would Jesus do with these six ducks? Because I'm in a different part of town than I'm normally at. And when I got back to town and y'all know where I was, you know where Clay's at. So when I got back to town, I don't know how you had. depict that part of town, I would say it's a pretty, I would call it the slums of our twin cities here. The most poor community there is. And if this was at night, I wouldn't even attempted this. Like, because I used to. And you have been mistaken as a weed buyer before in neighborhoods like this.

I've been mistaken for a lot of things. It's usually a Duck Dynasty guy or, a homeless guy or a threat he pulled up he pulled up one time and some ducks and he said hey you don't want

some of these ducks and they said man we out of weed yeah that's that happened that happened in my hometown and I was like

I don't know I got dust he said man we out of weed yeah I forgot about yeah that's one of my favorites

I started saying ducks and then it was like weed no weed duck no weed and he wouldn't take him

maybe he's going to pay you so I tried it again. I told Missy this story. She's like, you better tell this story on the podcast. So I pull up at a store and I rolled down the window and everybody started backing up. There was a lot of people around the gas pumps here. Everybody kind of backed up just I guess the way I looked. Yeah. And I said, who wants some ducks? And it was just dead silence. Everyone was crickets. And this woman piped up, the oldest looking woman,

and she just looked really poor. And she said, I want them ducks. So I said, okay, well, you guys, I got the ducks out there. And she's like, well, I'm going to need $2. And I was like, I'm not selling the, I said, I'm not selling the ducks. That would be illegal. Yeah. She's like, no, I want you to give me two.

dollars and I was like but I'm giving you the duck and she said but I need to get on the bus I was like oh this has nothing to do with the ducks she said a ride exactly I'm going to take the ducks but I need to get on the buck

I take a duck for two dollars so such a group of people had gathered up and some of them you know I wasn't sure just by the way they looked so I was like well I can't find my wallet But I'll give you my name. Her last name wasn't by our days.

I didn't know where my wallet even was. So I dig out $2 out of my console. Yep. But when she opened her hand, because she's got the ducks in one hand, and I put them in a little bag, well, she's got about $5 worth of change already in her hand, but I couldn't see it.

I was like, well, you've been playing this game all morning, huh? Exactly. So who knows what else? She had accumulated. I'd have to go back the next day and see what she had that day. Yeah. So then, well, here comes somebody else wanting $2. And I was like, look, that's all the $2.

This is over. But then a guy stepped forward, the biggest guy, and he's like, you want them Duck Dynasty Dene? And I was like, how'd you guess? You know? And he was like, I thought that with you. Well, then people really started gathering. And so I was like, well, time to start talking about.

Jesus. Because really the crowd had gathered and I was like, let me tell you about the ones that made the ducks. And look, when I started talking, everybody left except the Duck Dynasty fan and the woman. And she's like, I'm with you, honey. I am with you. When I said the word Jesus, that was it. That was the exit strategy.

But I just thought, okay, this is for everybody. You know, no good bad or indifferent. I thought it makes people mad, glad, or sad, or I got to get out of here. Dad, you know where he learned that little trick from old PR? I was used to when the folks would show up back when the show, they'd show up at Dad's house. And Dad looked out and saw the crowd. He said, well, we're fixing to do one or two things. We're fixing to have a big baptism or a mass exodus.

Yeah. And he'd go out and preach Jesus. Remember, Dad, you'd stand up on the back of the truck and lay it in? You could get about one out of 30. But isn't that something at just the mention of Jesus's name, and there's a power that is unleashed to where people make a snap decision on whether we're continuing this conversation or... But he ain't really there.

What I'm saying. So, Jay, that's another segue into my favorite verse, which I think is the key verse of the whole book in Colossians 2, 9, and 10, which says, for in Christ, this idea of the power of Him, for in Christ, all the fullness of the deity lives in bodily form. What you want to tell me, a statement. And, and you have been given fullness in Christ who is the head over every power and authority. So, all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form in Jesus, and you are in Jesus. So what does that mean?

We have all the capacity of the very fullness of the deity living in us. That's either a very scary thing or a very wonderful thing, depending on your perspective. Well, here's what I thought. You say, what's Colossians about? And I'm going to prove this to you. And I think there is a caveat. You know, in Ephesians, we stress the phrase that you just read three times without even doing it on purpose, which was in Christ, in Him. but if you if you add up all the places where it says Jesus or Christ or Lord or even King depending on your translation

with all the times it just says he or him talking about Jesus you'll see you'll say what is this about so if you just pick up which some people call this a poem or you know something that Paul had a song maybe a song that someone had put together because of all All the paragraphs in the Bible, this has got to be in the top 10. It's a good one. And I'm just going to, instead of putting the he and him and the pronouns, if I just read it because it's referring to Jesus, if you started reading verse 15 of Colossians 1,

if I can do this without preparing for it, it says Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn overall creation. for by Jesus all things were created things in heaven and on earth visible and invisible whether thrones powers rulers authorities all things were created by Jesus and for Jesus Jesus is before all things and in Jesus all things hold together and Jesus is the head of the body the church Jesus is the beginning and the first born from among the dead so in everything, in everything, Jesus might have the supremacy.

For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in Jesus and through Jesus to reconcile to Jesus or to God, all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven by making peace through Jesus's blood shed on the cross. That's a mindful. That's a lot of Jesus. What I'm saying is a lot of people like, well, you know, why y'all keep talking about Jesus? I think this was about Jesus.

I think so. In some capacity. But what I think Colossians does, which I don't know if you want to have a theme verse, that stresses is when he starts talking about mystery, and we talked about this in Ephesians, you know, there were a few mysteries that Jesus saw. One of them is that Jews and Gentiles can be together. That's why, you know, I told, I told that little story about going in the neighborhood. I was the only white person there, and I was trying to use the ducks because the economy

is so bad there, I thought, this will be a good meal for somebody. And I think she actually turned into a salesman of the duck, which would be illegal, but it's okay. I mean, I'm like, you know what? I don't think anybody's going to put her in jail. But in that, also, I was trying to share, these are people, and I'm part of the human and family with them, and that's why I brought up Jesus, because that's what unites us.

That's one mystery. But one mystery he refers to at the end of chapter one is that the mystery of Christ is that he is in you. He's in people. And so as when you think about in Christ, in Christ, well, now he brings up this idea of Christ in you. Right. I knew at some point

I never had noticed this but I said let's see he's going to get to the very moment in Christ all the fullness this is chapter 2 verse 9 all the fullness of the deity

lives in bodily form and you have been given fullness in Christ there you go he's the head over every power and authority in him you were also circumcised the putting off of the sinful nature They said, what the world is that?

Not with the circumcision done by the hands of men, but the circumcision done by Christ. Having been buried with Him in baptism, and raised with Him through your faith in the power of God who raised him from the dead. I said, I bet it's in there if it did. But that's the first time I've ever seen that. Yeah.

Well, just think about it. There is a point in time when the old you goes down, in the water and is gone. He compares it to a spiritual circumcision of the heart. Think about this. It's a pretty heavy stuff if you look at it. Think about the power of you getting in Christ. That's powerful because he's in heaven.

But then think about Christ being in you. Now all of a sudden, that'll start changing the way you off. You're like, oh, I got to get in, I got to get in, I got to get in. Now that you're in, well, guess what? He's in you. But that's safety back on. That's right. I mean, that's the last time when somebody said in our family, as a, as not a joke, but like, it was kind of a, what would Jesus do?

You know, we were talking about some situation. Yeah. And I was laughing about it. And I was like, hang on, let me ask him. What would you do? You said, because we out like he's a million miles away. And I'm like, hey, what do you want to do here? What are we doing?

Because he's in every single moment of every bit of time. Well, that's the only reason you could change. You know, people change. You'll see the change. And it's him, it's you really grasping what you've done. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we get caught up in the words of all this.

So, well, I have God's spirit, which is the spirit of Christ. Yeah. But he just said, let me reveal this mystery. to you that Christ is in you. I mean, that is just a powerful awareness that we don't,

we're scared to even deal with that in the old you dies and is buried. And the new you in our bow. One of the things that I noticed this time through, because every time you study a book, because we came straight from

Ephesians to hear, the thing that I discovered was that the message that Paul is laying out here is impactful whether he knows you or doesn't. So Ephesians, what was so personal about the letter of Ephesians, was that Paul had spent a ton of time with him. Remember, he lived there a year and a half. I mean, he knew these people. When he left, remember in Acts 20, I mean, he had this heartfelt conversation and they were all sad because they would never see him again on Earth and they knew that.

In Colossians, in Colise, he had never been there. Yeah. This was what amazing. like he didn't plant the church there it was probably planted by epiphras who we read about in the first chapter so paul sends them much of the same themes of ephesians that's why i just wanted to study it and i agree because there's some similar themes although he looks at a little from the different side from the ephesian side was more the body's responsibility this is more the headship of christ probably because they were having more false teachers there yeah there's five different kind of groups

that are mentioned that were the false. Which is why he's so focused on Jesus. He's like, well, right. He doesn't say one, two, three, four, five, but I just notice in chapter two, there were some people introducing some thoughts. You know, one of them was like,

some of them were worshiping angels and some of them of this philosophy that was making a harsh treatment of the body and false humility. But it said, it says an interesting phrase in there, which I think is scary, when it says some of this false teaching, it said they had lost connection with the head.

Yeah. Which, think about that. You're like, what does that mean? When you don't have Jesus as the focus, you basically decapitated yourself, you know, which is not a good way to live. You're not going to be alive long or function very properly without being connected to your head.

Lose your blessings. Got to be a gruesome analogy in there. That's true. So my point was, even whether Paul knew the people, deep relationship with sharing, you know, the book of Ephesians, or doesn't know them at all. The message still applies. So if you take that and put it into our current thing today, sometimes we think everybody does church speak. And it's like, well, they're going to get it because the message is powerful, whether you're a part of a church or not a part of a church, whether you're in this church. that church, this group, or that group, the message of Jesus, it counteracts everything out there.

I mean, that's the one thing that's always solid. I also think it was a smaller town, and I think it's significant. That's why I started this off of this for everybody, because Ephesus got all the, I mean, it was like the Las Vegas. It was the Roman capital of Asia Minor, so it was like the big. Well, they had a temple that was the seventh wonder of the world. Yeah, people came just to see it. And right down the road was Colossay, or however you want to say it, Coloss. And Colise, there were three little towns there together, and it was the least of the three.

Laodicea and Hieropolis were much bigger towns than Colossi. So this would be like West Monroe compared to New Orleans or some other place. Yeah, and I think that's significant because it's all people. This is for every person, even whether it's a rural place or some big city or, like, like, oh, we're going to take over the world if we get this city. But, yeah, I think it's interesting. And so Laodicea, which is one of the other neighborhood churches there in towns, you know, it gets mentioned in Revelation 3.

Well, and it's mentioned here. And the station at the end of this. Yeah, which they're mentioned. That's the famous passage about, I wish you were either hot or cold because you're luke warm, I'll spew you out of my mouth. And I think it also has that where he says, I'm here, I'm at the door, whoever knocks. Yep.

Isn't that this one? Yeah. Revelation 3. Right. So the backstory on that. It's 3.14. If I can remember this off the top of my head, you had Colise would have been, what were the three cities there?

Because the water, I think Colise was on the mountain. Yeah. And so they had these snow cap mountains. 90% of the time, whatever. So they were known for their fresh water. Well, it's cold water. One of the other towns, the Hieropolis, they have the hot springs.

Which is why he uses that illustration. And La Eadesia, I guess he was using that for an example. I wish you were a hotter cold. You don't want to be lukewarm, somewhere in the middle with the water illustration. And Colise was also known for making both red and red in purple cloth. That was their big industry.

And so there's a little place and that basically were all involved with the production of this one thing. But there was a major earthquake that it hit right around the first century. Destroyed most of it. Yeah, it hit it in 17, then it hits in 60 or 61, which is about when this was written. Exactly. So either it had happened or it was fixing to happen. Well, you just think about the pressure of this church, which a lot of people, one of the series I'm listening. too they're talking about living a non-anxious life in a chaotic world it's because what was going on

i mean nero was in power was the roman emperor well i would say he was uh probably the worst the most villainous i mean he killed christians started a fire blamed his own christians i mean yeah he was lighting his garden with christians burning at the stake and uh i mean i mean he was lighting in his garden with Christians burning at the stake. And, I mean, just was a terrible human being and was in charge. And was in charge at like 16. Yeah. And died in like 29.

I do remember this, like his first, well, first thing he did as emperor was killed his mom, murdered. Then he got married and killed his wife. Then he got married again and killed her. I mean, that was how he got started. So there you go. Good. Great.

Yeah. And, and, and, and, not a big, not a big supporter of women, no, but when you turn on, when you look at their context, their backdrop, I mean, you just had an earthquake or was fixing to or had one at least 50 years ago, which is not that long. Right. So you suffer with that. And then here comes another one.

And then you have a Roman governor and just dealing with the culture with the Jew and Gentile and the, especially when it came to religion, because they were being attacked on every front because there's five different thoughts. that he brings up. So there was a lot to be anxious about. And especially the more poor individuals, because they had the Roman tax, and that was basically how they built their fortress on their backs.

So with that as a backdrop, I think that's why it's so powerful. Yeah. Of what, maybe the Colossians 315 comes in mind where it says, let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts. I mean, why is that in there? Yeah. because it's a search as a human being for peace on earth.

And I like that kind of idea of small town because, you know, they've excavated parts of Ephesus. You can see it today. Same with Corinth. But you know when you go to Turkey where Colise was, which it ceased to be a town like in 3.30. I didn't mean a town ever. You look over there and it's just a mountain.

I mean, like it's covered up. They've never even uncovered it. They know where it is. And so I kept reading into this as I began my study thinking, you know, God can take the smallest of things that seem to be not a big deal to anybody around them and turn them into a big deal. And Colossians is one of the best books to show the supremacy of Christ that's in the Bible. I think the two things I've learned so far that we'll get into is one of redefined hope because biblical hope is not like English. what we define is on earth when we say, oh, I hope this happens.

That means there's some level of uncertainty that it won't. Right. But in Christ, whenever you read the word hope, you're going to see it in the first chapter. Oh, yeah. That's a certainty. Yeah. He's not saying, like it might not happen.

I hope the saints win. Well, right. Then it also says it's based on good news and truth. Yeah. So if you said, hey, the saints are going to, win the Super Bowl. Well, that's great if you're from Louisiana. But what if it's not true? Yeah, exactly. It's not good news to any other state. Exactly. And it may not be true. So you're like, I hope they win. Well, that's not what we're into.

That's right. Jesus, when it says, your faith and love spring from the hope. Well, that hope is anchored in certainty. So there's the difference. And I think that's one. That's one. One thing I learned and the other was there's a lot about, he says, I want you to grow into maturity. And so there's a lot in there about the process of becoming mature in Christ, which we really don't talk about money. Because the more immature you are, the more susceptible you are to believe things that aren't true. Which is what happened a lot here. So John is always a player that went by fast.

I'm going to read Colosha. Yeah. Now John is like, I got to get into it. We've got to get into. We just tickled it. It's a tickle. All right. Always good to have you, John.

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