Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 99 | Phil Robertson's Protest Theory, the Power of Jase's Beard, and the Truth About Tithing

Episode Date: June 7, 2020

Phil, Jase, and Al discuss the protests and riots, coronavirus masks, women's facial hair, and the under-appreciated power of the beard. In response to an audience question, the guys offer their opinions on giving, the prosperity gospel, and whether tithing is required. And Phil answers a question about whether God called him to start his duck-call business. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Unachanged What about you? So it's been amazing for me. We talked about the kind of all the riots and all these things have been going on in our previous podcast. But I do find it

it's not funny, but it's ironic, I guess, that it was everything, every day on the media was so entrenched on the coronavirus for so long. Like it was just all day, every day. If you watch news, I know Jay's don't watch a lot. But it was just Corona 24-7.

And this thing flipped with this thing that happened with George Floyd. And it's like it just disappeared. In fact, I finally saw it. I was like, what are the numbers? I hadn't seen the numbers in so long. I'm like, I mean, what's the deal? I'm thinking if you want to spread a viral infection, do what these people are doing now.

And that would be the way. Well, we're going to find out, right? That's the quickest way to spread it. The experts say they're eating. Well, it's like thousands of people walking down the streets. All real tight spots and yelling and screaming. Instead of social distancing, they figured out how this is social banging together. I am in a big way.

And hollering and spitting. And they say, wherever it comes from, but all of the thing and throwing stuff from me to you, hitting up to people upside the head, the blood's flowing. I'm thinking, well, if you want to spread a virus, get thousands of people together on the street. And all of them. Well, they're like, hey, I may die with the coronavirus. but, you know, an innocent man getting killed by a cop, you know, I'll risk my life to stop. There is something to that.

Well, it's funny, a lot of them are wearing masks. Of course, a lot of the bad ones that the anarchist type have been wearing masks for a long time, so they kind of blend in. Yeah, it was perfect for them because they're like, they don't want their face. They typically wear the mask. So I'm wondering, I was going to ask you, I know, Dad, you haven't been to town, so you have not put on a mask through this whole thing because you never left here, right? I haven't gone.

You have no mass. I haven't been to a town. Right. I don't go to town but about once a week when I'm in my normal thing, four times a month, I will go to a town. Walk in. I tell them about Jesus and I walk out the door. I love them. It's great.

And really you get home. Half African American and half white. It's a great work. Yeah. Yeah. So we're all together there. I said, we can show people. We can get along.

tell the truth, you get home as fast as you can. Like, you're not hanging around. That is correct. You're not going someplace and looking around town and you go and then you come home as quick this box. Somebody said, well, that's a bad way to roll. What are you talking about? I said, well, to each is on. That's right. I just feel more at ease if, if, you know, make the little text in the second Thessalon, first Thessalon is four there, make it your ambition to live a quiet live. I'm like, well, that makes sense and mind your own business i said that makes a lot of sense work with your hands so your daily life will win the respect of outsiders so the rednecks they're looking at what's that old guy what's he doing and you know so that you won't have to be dependent on anybody well if you think about it

al that's a good way to roll yeah it's not bad so that's the role i've chosen so good badder and different not for everybody. More people ought to try it. I don't know. Here's my theory. The beard is another reason, another positive about it, is it kind of functions like a mask. I haven't thought about that, but. Oh, it does.

You mean just to repel people like, because they're afraid of you or don't want to get within six feet of you? No, he's talking about the hell. I mean, that's part of it. Nobody's ever tried to mug me while I had the beard. one of the few times in my life that I was clean-shaven, I wasn't mugged, but it was basically give me all your money, okay, which I had like four bucks. I said, good luck with that.

You were the worst mark in the history of burglary. And I preached Jesus too. Did you give them the few dollars your head? I gave him the $4. $4 and a gospel. What's funny is the guy, did they have a pistol on you or did he just have his hand in his pocket? Well, here's what happened.

I haven't told this story. I don't guess. I was out in a show selling. duck calls. I actually had about 10 grand in one of those bank bags. That's what he was going for. Well, and I had a trailer. It's broad daylight. I pull off the interstate, pull in, and open the door. I had dropped Missy and the kids at McDonald's, maybe, you know, on the way. And so I said, I'll come pick you up. I got to get gas. So I opened the door, but it was like so many people in there and the guest things were really big when i let's see it when i reached and grabbed

the the guests and put it in here and i turned around and there was a guy i literally three feet from me big guy and i was like because i have a gun but i was probably you know six eight feet away so i was closer than the i turned back to the back door well now there's another guy oh so they did the they got me which well you know has never happened again because now when i get out, I'm looking. And the gun is probably in a place where you get your hand. He said, I need some money. And I said, well, we all do.

He said, you know what I'm talking about. And so I looked at the other guy and they were just, they didn't threaten me. They just look threatening. And I thought, this is give me your money. When you look menacing and you say we need the money, you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. And so I said, I'll give you what I got. I said, but I, you know, I mainly use credit cards. So I grabbed my wallet. When I went to the wallet, they both got closer because it was in my side door.

And I, because I thought I have a gun in my console, in the console. Because I had kind of a moment here, I thought, should I just go for the gun, you know, and just start blasting. I thought, I know I don't have any money in here. So, so I just got it. I think I had $2.1. bills and like a bunch of change and i just said hold your hands out and he was looking at me i said i'm going to give you this money and tell you that if you focus on jesus and the power of the resurrection you know give you meaning in life you find you a job i said that's a better way to operate he just looked at blank stare and so they left with their four bucks yeah so i i finished filling up here's what's funny because then i was kind of shook up now i pulled him

and McDonald's. He just got robbed. They were straggling. I was like, hey, let's go. I just got robbed. She's looking like, get in the car. You broke up the firm. Let's get out of here.

Just got mugged them all day. So I had no beard then, because now if I look like this, people think. They're probably, you look more dangerous than they do. Maybe it's a little bit. And plus they think, you know. But I've read various articles. This keeps things from getting into. But it also holds a lot of germs.

Well, look, the other night, I had gone metal detected in the field. And when I got home about every five minutes, I'd feel something crawling, you know. And it was like a different species above. One of them was a spider. And Mississippi would scream every time. I was like, I cut something. I was like, this is keeping that from going in my mouth, though. It caught it.

And I didn't get it yet. Well, that's great if you are a spider. But for him and being. not so great. Of course, I'm like, why are you screaming when the bug is on me? It helps in the sun, helps in the morning time, keeps you warm. And it keeps the, I think it keeps you cooler in the summer. So, so.

So, so. Germ has to penetrate this. I mean, it's, you got a point. So you haven't worn mass much because you haven't done much in town either, right? No, I haven't. I mean, I've gone to the grocery store a couple of times, but you got to remember since we're well known around here. Right.

I go to stores either right when they open. open or right when they close. It's just become a part of my life because there's fewer people. Not that I don't love people. I just don't want to spend three. I haven't been in a store in years. You've been in a town. So I have masks.

And for those that are watching and not listening, I just don't have a beard out. I don't have a beard. So you're basically a prime suspect about coronavirus because you have no buffer. Right, which is why I wear a mask. It's not normal. So my, so my, my mask are my moods. I have three masks. And so depending on my mood, that's what I wear when I go to the store or go and interact with people.

The first one is the N95, which was the ones that a lot of health care people use, which is the least comfortable, but it's supposed to be the most safe. You know, so it's, you know, this is the look. Problem is it's hard to talk in this. I mean, it's hot and uncomfortable. I mean, you said it's the least comfortable. Nothing about this looks comfortable. It's not comfortable. It's the least.

In fact, I've seen more people at work places, like have it. like not on their nose because I've realized, oh, that must be uncomfortable to try to wear it. I had to go to the doctor. And now the rules are, if you go to the doctor, they have to wear a mask. You have to wear a mask the whole time. So we're trying to talk to each other. You know, every once in a while she goes out of the room, I take it off and trying to get a break. I mean, it's not easy to operate.

Now, this one, Jace, I thought you'd like. When I'm in a mood where I want to show LSU colors, National Champion, that's my purple and gold. So it's a purple would go for those of you. Why don't you just go the bandana? I've seen people. Well, I've seen that. I don't know. That just looks thuggish to me for some reason.

Oh, well, that's what I'm going with if I have. Now, here's the one I like when I want to get a reaction. And for those of you listen, it says Trump 2020 on it. So most people around. You'll get one. Yeah, most people around here are like, yeah, I love your mask. You know, I was just in the grocery the other day. And all the little checkers, you know, they were like, yeah.

And then I went to Office Depot. And there was a younger guy in there. And he saw it. I saw him. He looked. And he never said a word to him. He checked me out. He never said, hello, have a good day.

And I was trying to be nice to him, but I thought, I guess not a Trump fan. So I just like it to get a little reaction. Well, I'm glad God put you in our family so you can, you know, keep us up on civilization. That's right. Because I haven't really noticed these types of things. I've seen a lot of people, like, if you drive by, they got mask on. And I'm like, well, you're in your car. Why are you wearing a mask?

Right. By themselves. Yeah. which I don't really get. But I've seen that a lot. Oh, yeah. I'd say hundreds. Especially older people, right?

I haven't noticed the A. I mean, I've just noticed. Well, I've noticed a lot of older people. The virus does not spike because of all the, whatever you want to call it, all the just lawlessness run around in the streets. If it doesn't spike with all that going on, it's not easily, it's not easily spread through human beings one-on-one. They say it. If that doesn't bring it up, if I doesn't bring the numbers up, you can say you forget being under lockdown. Forget that.

Because this is the opposite. This is this is running and interacting and fighting and jumping and hollering and up in people's faces and all that. I said, so this is a good way to test whether the experts were right or not. Right. But you just gave me a thought. Because you know, if we have a rule in our duck blinds that if you don't have a beard, you have to wear a mask. And by the way, I have a camo one, too.

That's what I didn't have with me. I've got a camo. Real true, too. But see, now that I've touched your mask, what do you do? You got to wash it down. Yeah, you probably just totally ruined it. I wish you wouldn't have stay away from. But if you just look, females tend not to have the type facial hair.

There's is like a little peach for us, and they get rid of that. I like the way they tend not to ask. How do the females? How do they get rid of that peach fudge? Do they shave? Or do they, I've never asked. They don't like any kind of peach fuzz. I know, but how do they remove it?

For a man, you either got to scrape it off, which makes no sense at all just to say, I'm going to scrape my face off. Surely I'm a creationist. I think God created male and female. So with males, I'm looking at hair coming out of their faces under their arms or other places, but it comes out of their face. Well, you look at women, you say, not so. So I got a question for that, that.

Not so much. I've got a argument for that. What is the deal with the American Indian then? Because they don't grow facial or body hair. Nope. So what happened to them in the process? Because you're right. Everybody else.

Great questions. Another evidence of God. With something. In my opinion, all these details on how people are different. And, you know, they say we came from the same thing other than God. you just start running into problems when there's so distinct differences. But look, I wanted to say, Missy showed me last night. There was some kind of graph.

It's weird that you brought this up. But they had like different things, and it was a graph, and how the coronavirus has affected it. It's like shaving, you know, the line started going. And I'll find a copy of it so they can post it. Like shaving was the way to spread it? No. They were just saying since the coronavirus, the trends. And like shaving went way down.

Because people are at home, right? Well, they're at home. There's like, you know. He wants to shave if you don't have to. You know, wearing, uh, like, I mean, some of them were kind of funny. Like wearing bras, you know, way down. Not because they don't go anywhere, you know. But then when it, the last one was wearing mask.

And it literally was, do we wear it? Do we not? Do we wear? Oh, yeah. It was like. It was the only one that was just chaos throughout the whole top. It was just like the stock market, right? Oh, we need to wear the mask.

Now, don't have to wear the mask now. Well, they were saying early on, no masks. It's like booze, you know. That went up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, alcohol sales were up like 25%. They're like 10 different things, but we put that graph. It's pretty funny.

Well, let's talk about spiritual writers. We talked about it. Well, hang on. Let's take a break. So today I've got some viewer questions. We love, and listener questions, we love to answer your questions. and I thought I'd kind of start with ones that I kind of see here's a little bit from our perspective, maybe a little bit easier to tackle and handle for you.

The first one was one we get a lot. That's why I want to ask it. And I don't know that we've talked about it. Maybe we have at some point. This is from Corey with the C. And I'm not sure if that's a she or he, but they say, can I ask your view on tithing? And this is one that we get a lot because obviously there's kind of sort of the – Why do you think we get that a lot?

I don't know. I'm shocked that we get this. We get that a lot. And a lot of times it's like, it'll be framed like if I give money to something not at my church, is that okay? You know, and so most of the questions are ones I've heard my whole life being inside the church. But I thought we should just give our broad opinions about what we think about it and what the Bible says. I mean, I always go to big picture on everything. We are not under law.

Under the law, most is what was required to God. I'd say, okay, well, we're not underlaw. I know it. But the people who were, probably they give 10%. I've heard the 10% tithe, which goes back to the old test. That's where most of this is coming from. And you can already tell that I don't like that principle to be like a standard. I mean, I go, the verse I think of is where it says, where's the one that says what he's

decided in his heart and give cheerfully, you know. Now, should you be greedy or, you know, a hoarder? Remember the guy in the story in the Bible who he would, he had all his success and what he did he do? He just built a bigger barn and built a bigger barn. And his whole life was about what he had for himself. Bigger barn. Where the brothers meet where we are, it's a group of all the colors.

So we're in there because we look at from one man, God made every nation of men. Adam. So we all came from Adam. So to us, it's one race. It's the human race, irregardless what my sociology professor said. And the bottom line is you say, do y'all pass the plate, as they say, you know, no, there's no plate being, there's no, I don't pass a plate? We don't pass the plate. Nope. Do people give? Yeah. Oh, y'all just like. There's a box in the back, you know, embedded in concrete. So it'd take a pretty good little ruckus to get the thing up. But if you want to get, which I do, instead of me taking money to give up there and to give them a lesson on Sunday morning, instead of taking their money, I would never do that.

So I say, now, look, there is no passion to play. And they were all kind of looking around the first. Well, you know what I said, look, just give as you prospered. I said, there'll be a box in the back. I said, it's bolted to the floor. I said, we have a little girl, secretary, she'll take care of that. I said, but now that pays for your lights, if you want lights. I said, if you don't want to pay for electricity and get lights or a bathroom,

if you don't want to pay for it, I said, if we're going to have it, electricity, heating, cooling, and bathroom facilities, we're going to have to pay for it. I said, I'm giving enough to pay for it, so you actually don't have to give anything. But if you want to give anything to the church, this goes across the road, to White's Ferry Road, we're kind of like a satellite of a bigger group. Right. So this group's a couple hundred. So they're in there.

They don't have to give anything if they don't want to. I just remind them if you're generous toward God and you're generous toward your neighbor. It's a good thing. It is a biblical principle. No doubt. I'm out for giving. The amount is you can't say 10 percent. Well, I don't have a law emojis.

Because, by the way. Well, good. I thought we were going to disagree on that. I'm glad we agree. Oh, no. We're basically saying keep your money in my own life. I've noticed that the more I give and the more generous I am, the more blessed I become. So let me read this verse.

That's true. However, maybe it was luck. But some people only give to be blessed. I don't agree with that. All right. Let me read the principle, Dan. So you tell me if this sounds like what you just said. Second Corinthians, 9, 6.

Remember this, Paul said. Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly. Which was my point. And whoever sows generously will also reap. Which is my point. Generously. Each man should give what he has decided in his own heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion. That's what I do.

There's your 10% rule. For God loves a cheerful giver. Yeah, that was the verse I was thinking. Yeah. And God is able to make all grace. Second Corinthians, 9, 6 to 8. Perfect. Look, we go up there.

What happened? We have individuals. We've appointed them. This C. has got the man on the job. During all the pandemic and all that, you say, well, what about the people, you know, who are just pouring down, trod? I said, the grub, we have a big meal every Sunday morning. There's a meal when you get there.

I don't care who you are. If you're hungry, we got something unique. We have donuts, you know, and people jambalai. We have food there. So if you want them. So we all have a meal. During the meal, we stop. remember the blood of Jesus and remember the body was nailed to a cross so we remember the Lord we protect the Lord's supper but as far as like charging anybody to walk in the door for crying out loud I just don't think it may be the American model but it's not the biblical model right

biblical model is what you just read yeah I think if people if you introduce Jesus to people and they fall in love with Jesus they'll give yeah I would rather have 10 sermons on how great Jesus is and zero on giving. Yep. Somebody says, well. One. Yeah. So the food supply kept on going once the pandemic came, we had one of the brothers. He's up there on Sunday mornings where we used to meet, but now it's on the lockdown.

So the health officials, the government authorities say, hey, lock her down. No more meeting. We say, like, it's fine. So we're two or three are gathered in the name of Jesus. He'll be there. So we just diffused. We're out and about in the neighborhoods where whatever we're doing. You say, but what about the ones that are hungry?

We have a man there on Sunday morning and lunches are being given. It may be like their favorite, as it turned out, the guys who are sleeping on the street and the gals, we're giving them grub. We're giving them something to eat. You say, well, what would like a common meal like that be because of the pandemic and all that? A can of buying a sausage, a ham sandwich, and some chips. Well, they all said the ones who were receiving that. People like me are paying for it. They're not having to pay for it.

They don't have any money. We don't pick up a collection. I say, well, where is the money coming from? We're helping out in that area that we're doing for the most part. We're making sure that if you're hungry, you come. come here, we're going to feed you. I don't care who you are, what you look like, what color you are.

We're not worried about all that. Human race, human beings. So we just keep the grub going. And they said, we like that. We like that one. It's got the vion of sausage because they can carry that in their pocket for a day or two. Eat the sandwich. Eat the chips.

But they got a little reserve left there, you know. So a good principle out of that is that things you do every single day are giving. You can't look at it. That's right. It's all just in a collection plate or whatever. I mean, sometimes it's helping somebody. I wrote two checks this week. I got paid.

So I wrote one to our local church because I support what they're doing. For years, I was the one being supported. So I'm enjoying being able to give back and not receive anything money-wise. And then I wrote one to promise keepers because they're cranking promisekeepers back up again. It had a huge impact on me when I was a young man. So I'm like, I want to support those guys. I want to help them get off the ground. But so anything you do that you give where there's money, time, effort, whatever is giving.

That's the idea that we just read it. I think what happens is what turns people off is because they kind of run it like a business, which is understandable, you know, churches. But a steady diet of lessons on giving, which is my point. Or the prosperity gospel like you were talking about, which is not right, where a lot of pastors will say, if you give to me and to our church, then here's what's going to happen for you. Yeah.

That happens all the time because I've had several kind of one-on-one. situations. Following Jesus is not about money. In fact, as far as I can tell, do y'all know of any situation where Jesus himself, when it comes to making money? Well, I'm sure he made some money. What's interesting about it is he's personally, there was no doubt because he said, I don't even have a place to lay my head. So personally, he wasn't for money. Because I guess when you own the universe, why would you? But he, but he was pro business. because all of his parables are about business stuff. So I found it interesting that Jesus had no problem with the concept of making money.

He just didn't live for money. By the way, he did say to pay your taxes. Yeah. He did. The king always pay your taxes. Well, remember Judas had the purse. It's not like we're out here saying, well, we're rebella and we're going to try to slick you every way we can. Right.

And Judas had the purse, remember, because he'd like to dip into it himself. But that was so they could eat. You know what? What was the story about the coin where he says, you know. They fanning the fish? Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's one of my favorites. Yeah, we tell that one before.

Hey. But look. Hang on, Jason. Let's take quick break in and tells him. You know, Matthew 19, I think is famous because the young man who had great wealth, you know, and Jesus knew his heart. But he'd come in there, you know, what I got to do. And he got to the point of, well, go sell everything you have. Well, that was a deal breaker.

Yeah. Because he valued. that. So I've often asked myself, which it's easier for us because, and I tell people that all the time, because people say, well, how has money and fame changed you? That's probably the number one question I get at these events. And I hate to say it because it's embarrassing and they think I'm lying, but I'm like, you know what? It just really hasn't changed me much. Because I know if it was all gone, I've experienced true joy without any material possessions. We all have. So I, I, that's the difference, I think, in people.

People that haven't experienced joy when they don't have anything, it's not because they don't have anything. It's because they didn't have Jesus. They didn't have all these other issues that kind of bring up. And think about it. That's your focus, Jay, is when you've amassed it. Your biggest fear is losing it and going back to the way you were before you became a big star, before you became a football player.

The love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. a person who wants to get rich will pierce himself with many griefs. Well, that's what I'm fixed to read. I'm like, boy, be careful when you're dealing with money because. You know, I don't watch it. I mean, Jesus took it a step further, and I think we miss on how difficult this is. Because he says, I tell you the truth.

I mean, this is in red letters. It is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. It's just a hard thing to do. And that scares me. But I'm saying these preachers, they'll use that and saying, you don't want to be rich, so give me your money. Okay, that's a dumb thing to say. Again, but they, I feel like those types of sermons, oh, they just, they literally get under my skin. I mean, I agree with you.

It's like you hear a missionary come talk and they're obviously trying to raise money. But the longer they talk and the more they talk about how they need money, the less I want to give it to it. If they just did a short thing about the work they're doing and how impactful it is around the world, then I'm like, I want to help that guy. All right. Who's the last guy? I'm going to tell. I'm not bragging, but Al brought this story up. I tell you, who's the guy who just spoke.

He was in Greece. Larry Bowles. All right. So this guy, Larry Bowles, he gets up. Look, he tells about five minutes what he did, what he does in Greece. Awesome. I think we've talked about podcasts. He's helped.

All of the world comes in. Some of our listeners have helped support him since we've talked to him, which I appreciate it. So this guy preaches, then he preaches Jesus. He said, but here's what I preach. And it was an awesome presentation. About the deity of Jesus. Who Jesus said. He's like, I got one, and he did a little illustration.

I got one string on my guitar, and this is it. Well, I got up out of my seat. I said, miss you got any checks, you know, because I'm kind of my cash, man. And I didn't have enough cash on me. And I said, give me a check. She's like, what are you going to do? I said, don't worry about it. I took the

You ask your wife You're a first spring on the pew Yeah When I ask for a check Because I don't ever do that That made her nervous You want to make your wife nervous To give me a check

When you don't know what I'd do that Then she's like Then she's overshadow Look looks Then she did The old line She said with the collection plates Already passed

I said I know it So I write a check For $3,000 I just picked the number Because I thought about Act 2 you know, 3,000. I thought this whole boy, now he's preaching Jesus

and risking his life to do it. But I like this ministry. So I had never met him. I just, he had finished his sermon. He was sitting on the second pew, you know. And so I sat down beside and he was looking at me like, this is all, because the service is going on, you know what I mean? And I handed in that check.

And I was like, good job. And then I went back to my seat. Well, here's the part that I didn't like. Well, somebody, one of the leaders saw me do that. And they were like, I saw you give, you know, the missionary a check. And I was like, yeah, is there a problem? Because I was a little bit like, you have a problem with that, you know? He's like, well, we have a fun.

It goes through the church. And he started explaining taxes. And, you know, my eyes kind of glazing the back of my head. And I just, I wanted to say, I don't care. Live. This wasn't a business decision. This was an impulse. You didn't care about whether you got tax credit.

I didn't care whether I got tax credit, whether you kept a record of it, whether this is going to mess up everything. I took a check out of my wife's purse, and I gave this guy $3,000 because I thought, you know what, he needs some money. He's in Greece for crying out loud. And he's mainly working with people fleeing out of Islam. And you know what else? Look, Phil, and you know what else? He didn't ask for it. Yeah.

By the way, you've illustrated a point that I've just noticed in America. I think it's a worldwide phenomenon that most of the money that's on the earth. I know where this is going. It's in the women's purse. It's not in the man's bill, though. It's in the women's press. That's why you looked at Missy when you needed some money. I'm trying to figure out how you affected somebody with a statement.

That as it turns out worldwide phenomena. That's where most of the money is. Tell our audience where you first noticed. is that. We would be selling duck calls at a show, right? And you would see the guy looking at the... And he wants this duck call, and he would always do the same thing. They all looked at that duck call, and I'd blow it. And he said, man, that thing is sweet. That sounds like a mallard hen. He wants that duck call, and he goes, he looks at his woman. And she would be like, either thumbs up or thumbs down. I do, man. We were at some show in Arkansas, and they kept doing that.

That stuck with me. I said, you know, that's the source. Well, is that not true in your own relationship? I mean, who has the money in your money? But Phil, you give you all the money. I give Missy all the money. I mean, I'm like, here it is. But if you want to make spiritual decisions with it, I mean, I do think you have maybe the final answer if you're going to make a big decision.

I mean, I knew 100% that when I, because I could sense it with her, we like this. Yeah, that's good. This is what he's saying, this is what we're trying to do here in America. He just happens to be doing it in Greece. Which, by the way, the marriage counselor, I'm not a marriage counselor, but the marriage person in me wants to warn the audience,

that may make sure you know your wife well enough to know you can, I mean, if you try to just pull what Jay's just did in some relationships, that may lead to just. Well, now, Al, you're opening up another can of work. I mean, what I'm saying is you've had a $3,000 check in some relationships, so we may have, but, but the bottom line is, if you are generous and you can work it out with your woman as husbands here. You can work it out, the bottom line,

but the Lord knows who is generous towards him and you are not. I would just make it my goal to make sure you don't come up on the stangey end. That's right. I want to say this. There's things you can do. We receive the blessings, you know.

God's really blessed us. Well, if that's the case, you better give to the source of all wealth and honor. So let's take a break and Jay, you bring that point on. There's also things you can do in the world that I consider giving. You know, the coronavirus hit. I looked at all the people I asked the first time I played golf, you know, they had the coronavirus rules, you know, and so they had laid off most of the employees.

But as they started getting better, more and more of them came. So about the time they kind of had it fully staffed one day, but it's a pretty big staff there. all the cooks and all. And so I just decided I took a watt of $20 bills, I mean a watt. And I thought, I'm going to give everybody a tip just and the guy who kind of runs the shop and the one that runs the kitchen. I gave them a hundo. And they were looking at me like, what are you doing?

I said, well, y'all hadn't been working. I want to because I think that's a way, number one, yeah, they hadn't been working. They probably could use the cash, even though. a little bit. But it's also, if I ever start a conversation about Jesus, I think that was a helpful thing. Yeah, that'll be open to listen. By the way, you two boys, y'all are my sons. But if you'll reel back time and look, ever since y'all raised up and you,

well, y'all went out and married, you got kids and all that stuff, I mean, how many times has old dad here ever come to y'all and said, here's what you ought to do with your money. How many times you heard that out of me? None that I can remember. Zero. I didn't know it was an issue, really. It's not an issue. I'm just saying, I don't have the right to tell you, boys, y'all are my sons, but I don't have the right to tell you what you do with your money. Well, you could say that's a dumb move or, you know, I mean, I wouldn't mind you doing that, but you're right. You've never said one word about that. You're a little iffy on the stock market when I first got in, but now through the last few much. Now you're saying, well, maybe you could buy me a couple of us. The only reference I have

to stock market is as I see the guys who are talking about it and I quickly go to some other, some other source of information. Yeah, but I mean, stock market, that's the reason I think, you know, we looked it up and we've, we have, we have scoured the scriptures, ladies and gentlemen, and we have found no verse in the Bible that says that gambling, which is really not, stock market you're in we have found no verses that says that's sinful not one and if you think about it you say I wonder why gamblers never never mentioned there because even Jesus when the when he had given the talents one of them he told the one that went out and buried buried the the blessing he buried and didn't use the money for anything he just

buried and sat on it Jesus did you at least could have put it in their world with draw interest so that tells you right there he was for that Well, the last time we brought this up, I got a scathing. Somebody sent me. My assistant, what she'll do is every once in while? It's like the worst emails that are sent in. She'll send them to me just because she thinks it's funny. Bring it down to reality.

Well, that was one that was just to make sure you don't get a big air. That was one. It was a woman. The day we had Zach on here, my cousin, but he's family. And she's like, you were rude. You did not let him talk. he was a guest. And but look, and so I didn't respond.

I thought it was funny. And she's like, you talk too much and you tell way too long a story. And you interrupt your dad too much. Yeah, and I interrupted. So, you know, we had a little laugh. I took the constructive criticism and I said, okay, you know, I'll try to short my stories. But what she didn't remember is Zach was the guest that day because he wanted to be on here and he worked behind the scenes with the show.

But we talked about the Western, we had the Western Awards. Well, once he hadn't seen the outlaw Josie Wales, what he said didn't matter. I don't want to hear anything you have to say. I've made it my policy, nearly everyone I've heard of, but knows that they have a cell phone. I don't. So you say, are you checking to see what people?

Always remember this, ladies and gentlemen, who are out there in computer land. I'm never checking what you say about anything. I'm just, I'm walled it off. I said, you may, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I forgot my point, though, Phil. So the last time we talked about the stock market, look, I got a scathing email saying, that's gambling, you know, the stock market.

That's why I brought that up. Yeah, I know. But you know what I thought about is when, you know, after Judas did what he did, and then they chose the next apostles, they did it by casting lots. That's true. God sanctioned, cast lots. I'm like, which is a family. I've always wondered about that one.

That is a good one. I think it was just to take out the human element. Then it had to be just, you know, God made the call. That's right. Otherwise you would. You say it a lot when people appoint people. But I mean, what I'm saying is that would be deemed as a camel. By the way, you carry over into investments if you're wise and you invest your money wisely, you know, that's why you say, God, if you're going to put your money at risk, which the stock market is starting a matter with, you said, what am I, God, this didn't outlaw all that because it's nothing to outlaw.

That's why I've never told you what to do with your money, Al, RJ's. He wants to go on the stock market. I'm like, hey, whatever. And look, everything. Well, Phil, there's so many, these people put restrictions in the church about issues that are not mentioned in the Bible. That is correct. Just think about that. I mean, they even do it with, you know, we've known people who do it with instrumental music.

Sure. You know, and I've looked at some of their arguments and they're like, well, you know, back in the Old Testament, They were singing and dance and playing instruments, and God forbid it. Well, when you read the story, it's because they were worshiping a golden calf. It wasn't what they were doing. It was the object, which it always said. Who you're worshipping is way more important than how. But that's the same way with finances.

The bottom line is you have a lot of verses about being generous toward God. And, you know, over in Malachi, the prophet, he said, look, you said you're tithing you're robbing me so they were stingy and he makes his final point god said if you're generous toward me i will fill your barns up filled up running over and tamp down i will bless you mightily if you are generous toward me well i've always read that and thought you know my best course of action is always be generous toward the one a lot of people say uh One of these, you know, one of the, they said, like Fial, I was a high school teacher, and he said, you know, did his question, did God call you to start the business, the duck call business, or is it just something you wanted to pursue? I just decided, I looked at what I was making in the school system, and I said, I'll top out at 40, 40,000 a year.

And that's it after about 30 or 40 years. I just looked at that and said, you know what, I can beat that. So I told Ms. Kay, I said, I can beat that. I didn't hear a voice that said, you know, go out there and get in the business world and build duck off. I just decided that was the route I wanted to take. I would be, what do you say, I'd be removed from the hustle and bustle of it all. I'm down there on the river. And I just started that business slow at first.

But you used to tell us, do what you love to do. And if you can make a living from it. That's right. That's a bonus. That's all that was about. and I looked up and I was blessed, you say, but it was your idea. It wasn't like God talking to you. I think God wants me to build up called.

I mean, no, I just decided to do it. So I want to ask you something about that. Let's take one last break. His question specifically, because it sounds like this is Rush, as his name, is trying to, he's like you. He's like you, a high school teacher, has a master's, which is kind of like what you had. But he kind of feels a pull to start a business. And so he was curious as to, you know, what was your thought process going into that, which you just described. But I definitely think you thought, though, Dad, that you were within God's will for what you desired to do.

That's right. I mean, I said maybe that's the best way to put it. I prayed to him throughout the whole process. I'll thank you, you know, money get tired. You know, Lord, help me out here. I went through all of that. I knew he was in control. So I looked up one day

But you did the big stuff. Great blessings came from that. I think it's harder for you to see because you were too close to it. But from my perspective, you have made this big move to get away from your past and to be a better family man. That's correct. And to be involved in the community memory. I started the church up here. And you're like, I'm going to work with my hands.

I registered to vote. Yeah. And you were trying to do what you love to do, which is fish and hunt and try to figure out how to make a living. But the most important thing was you had put your family. faith and trust in God, and you were working hard. And I wanted to read this, because in that vein in verse chapter 3 and 23 of Colossians, it says, whatever you do, work at it with all your heart as working for the Lord, not for men, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as reward. It is the Lord Christ you're serving. And so...

That we did, Jace. You know? I think you have to get that. You got to have Jesus. on straight first and say, you know, I'm obviously he spends a lot of time about work, you know, working and we've read this one at nauseam about if a person doesn't provide for his earthly family, especially for his immediate family, he's denied the face in the worst than unbeliever. Where's that? Like 1st Timothy, 5, 7 or 7? So that's why I think, I mean, I think our take would be to rush, but also to folks

that are thinking about this, because I get this question a lot, and you may have before J's too, because we both went to seminary. and, you know, learn the Bible for a couple years. I wound up being full-time ministry. You did it part-time a little while, but we both always been evangelist for the Almighty. That's what we do. But they'll say, they'll frame it, and it's the phraseology, you know, when did you get your call? I mean, and it was like an audible voice or something like that.

And it's funny because I always said, well, you know, I went in kicking and screaming. I mean, Chase and I did not want to go to school to preach. In fact, the first year we said, no, they were recruiting us to go. And we didn't really want to go because we were like, preaching students are weird. You know, we had our reasons. I'm a terrible student. And you're young.

So what I'm saying is, I think maybe a better way to look at it from what dad said and I think our experience is that whatever you do, as you just read, you know, God's going to bless you in it if you're looking to him. I mean, he's going to find a way to do that for you. So it's not necessarily just it has to be the will to do this one thing. It's anything you choose to do. I mean, and so you want to try to be as. I mean, the opposite of that is the guy, you know, last.

on his couch, praying to God every day. Yeah, true. You know, show me a sign. Show me a sign of how I can pay my bills. Yeah. I'm like, well, I'm about get up off the couch. Step outside. Let's work Carol in there before.

Oh, no, we don't have to have that, Dad. That's a much. Carol, you'll be next time. We'll have to catch Carol. Carol's got a deep question that's going to take more than three minutes to do that. But the bottom line is you focus on Jesus and out of that grateful heart. And the passage I read in Matthew 19, he ended up saying it's hard for a rich man, but he also said, you know, with man, this is not possible, but with God, all things are possible.

You can, you know, find it in your heart to be a cheerful giver. If you have a lot of money, you know, give a lot. There's a lot of good. I'm still going to get this to Carol because she knows. First Timothy 117. Phil, we're going to be back. This is a totally different issue. I don't want a girl to be it.

to be at ease. She didn't even know until next week. You just brought her up. Carol, hanging at her next time, honey. We'll get you in there. I love it because that's like, and he's got a lot of stuff for Carol. She did. And we're going to probably do a whole podcast on that. So let me just wrap this thought up by telling you. Good questions. Thank you, Corey and Rush and Carol and others for sending in your questions. We love it. It drives great content. I was at a men's event this past weekend. And you realized something, Jason, it was really funny because when I was in there, I realized it was the first time I had been with people in a setting where I was going to speak in months.

Yeah. Everything we've been doing is live stream. It was just a little handful of people. And it was so refreshing. I mean, we were, we had worship and had a worship leader. Was it a house full of mask? It was, no, no mask, which was kind of funny, I thought. But I'm not sure we, we, they tried to social distance and follow the rules, but I'm not sure

they accomplished all that. But I loved it because being in their. room of a couple hundred guys. It was just, it reminded me about Christianity and what it's about and just getting that feel for that. And so I spoke along with a couple other guys. But what I was going to say to our audience about it was that I asked the audience, because a couple of guys had already approached me about watching the podcast and listening. And so I said, how many of you guys have ever watched or listened to the Unashamed podcast? And I was in Shreveport, which is pretty close to here about a hundred miles away. And I'd say a third of the audience raised their hand.

And I thought, man, that's awesome. And so afterwards, you know, the word I hear the most from you guys about the podcast. And Jason and I get on the emails is life changing. This podcast is changing my life or this podcast has changed my life. So we just want you to know we take that as a great honor to the Almighty. We're glad to be a part of your spiritual journey. By the way, so the G.N. who does all of our emails and stuff, because when Willie was on here, he said, what do we need to, we can need to call it by the Philistines.

About half the audience loved it, about half hated it. Yeah. Some of them said Unashamed Nation, what a half was that for me. One woman had a really interesting one, Dad. She said, you should be called the Fillage People, which, you know, kind of a takeoff of the bill. I thought, we're probably not going with that one, but I thought it was. I'm going to go out on a limb and say, we need more ideas. Keep the ideas coming because we're going to find that exact one.

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