Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 994 | Uncle Si Spooks Jase’s Houseguests & Jase Comes Home to a Yard Full of Reporters

Episode Date: November 18, 2024

Jase discovers that he might be more immature than he thought after his brush with disaster on a child’s hoverboard toy. Uncle Si’s craziness disturbs Jase’s houseguests, and Jase comes home to ...find a press mob looking for a story in his own front yard. Maturing in Jesus is like riding a bike — it’s something that we learn to do better with experience, and it eventually becomes ingrained in our souls. Jase stresses thankfulness for God’s mercy as Paul stresses it throughout Colossians.Zach's new podcast, “Not Yet Now,” premieres on November 19. Check it out: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/not-yet-now-with-zach-dasher/id1770712976 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5AfQIyrbRtYuQNN9kIqFw1 iHeart: https://iheart.com/podcast/238399575/ In this episode: Colossians 1; Colossians 3, verses 15-17; Colossians 4, verse 2; Luke 17, verses 11-19; Luke 18, verses 9-14 -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. I'm trying to just, I'm trying to get used to the news surroundings. We still, Dad's not back with us yet. He's still in recovery mode. And we're in the duck call room. It's your first time here. I've been here a time or two for special stuff and not just a normal podcast. So I've been on their podcast. I guess Matt, is this where Saa sits? It's right here. Am I in his chair?
Starting point is 00:00:34 It looks very... It's very busy. Or distance. There's a big distance between the two. Well, and that's another problem, Zat. So here's my issue. So I can see you in the monitor now. I thought you were Jace originally.
Starting point is 00:00:46 If I'm wearing my glasses, I can see you. If I take them off, I can't see you. I don't know if I can read my Bible. I think J. should be sitting right across the table from you right there. Like, well, I'll always. would be however that used to be my place at duck commander yeah now that sigh has taken over for germrophobic reasons i go nowhere near there yeah i got you this is uh you that's like six feet apart right there we're jason and i are social distancing during this side lives there and i'm
Starting point is 00:01:20 you know you're not afraid of covid but you are afraid of sigh there you go well i'm looking he's got little figurines of himself. Yeah. Over here, there's a little Cy figurine hugging a giraffe. Okay. I see some arrowheads. There's a little Japanese
Starting point is 00:01:38 gong type instrument. drums, bells. There's a lot of noise makers here. Is if Si doesn't make enough noise on his own that he needs to know. Oh, here's a Black Panther. Yeah, he likes to illustrate main points with the use of props.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Well, which is funny, and it's always been that way. I mean, it's like when we were even building duck calls, he'd reach over there, we'd be having a conversation, and he would tap that bell.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Ding. Then you had to figure out where you are going. If he liked that. Oh, so that's his reaction, I see. Oh, yeah, he likes to react in prop fashion.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yeah, I got you. Slap the table. He slaps a table. He does that a lot. He got that from Domino's. Yeah. Which I can.
Starting point is 00:02:26 respect that. Yeah, me too. I can slam a good dominoes. So we're here. Jason and I are suffering every year this time of year. Right for it, duck season usually in the October, early November.
Starting point is 00:02:40 It's always kind of muggy here. We're getting ready to transition in the fall. And something happens. Maybe it's a blooming something. I don't know what happens, but your allergies go nuts. Yeah. And then it develops into a sinus infection. So every year, the question is, how bad would the
Starting point is 00:02:55 infection B, and Jay's got it bad this year. Mine's not as bad as normal. Well, I'm better today, but the last time I saw you when I had the big beast of a man. Old Colton. What a story. And look, after that podcast, I'll have to confess something. I underestimated the outcry of the community when you have a current NFL player, just, show up in what we lovingly call funro so when you say the local community you mean the the local funroites yeah monroe and westmore the funroians so my neighbor had entered had set all this up and uh because he knew one of the owners of the san francisco 49ers but people started contacting him and it's like what about this so after we did the podcast i walked out and that was a small group of people
Starting point is 00:03:55 people had gathered. And they were like, okay, here's what's next. And I was like, what do you mean? What's that? So there was a couple of schools that they had lined up for him to go visit without any kind of conversation, you know? You were reviewing this as just a Bible study. Well, he came here because of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah. And we got that taken care of. And then he. But they had done some other things. They had other things in my local. But then Si got wind of him, and so I was like, well, I want him on my podcast. So then there were too many things and not enough time. It got into that.
Starting point is 00:04:35 So I became his handler, which is funny. I've always wondered how you would be as a handler. You know, I think I did pretty well. You've been handled a lot. Did you grow an appreciation for Bonnie and others? I really did. I really did. Well, I call my handler the smiling bulldog.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I was more just a bulldog. I was just like, look, there's not enough. A bulldog without a smile is an attack, though, Jay. Yeah, so there's not enough hours in the day. So I just, I got with him privately. And it's like, look, if you don't want to do any of this, just tell me right now. But if you want me to use my best judgment or what I would do, which is. We had to do this a little bit a few years ago when you had Tebow here for a thing.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Same kind of deal. Same kind of thing happened when he was here. and I didn't have enough, I confess, I didn't have enough boldness to just tell people, no. No, yeah. But I did this time. So what we wind up doing is he did Cize podcast, which. Were you, do you watch it?
Starting point is 00:05:42 No, I wasn't here. But look, and they were like, his dad was here with him. And he kind of a shy, soft-spoken guy, but just a hunter through and through. And there, but when I was leaving, they were like, come, you sit in too. Come on, too. Oh, so dad was on too. Dad was on too.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I'm not sure how that went. But when we got back, I said, how was that? And they were like, crazy. We didn't realize how crazy sigh really is. And I was like, you didn't? I said, well, I tell people all the time when they say, it's crack. Yeah, sigh as crazy as he was on that duck show, I said, oh, it's worse than you think. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I use the iceberg illustration. You know, you see the part sticking out of the water, which is impressive. But underneath, it's way, way bigger and deeper. Yeah. That size and sanity. So what we wind up doing, which was, look, having said all that, sounds like I'm being negative. But what we did was awesome. We took one of the school visits, which was OCS.
Starting point is 00:06:44 They were fixed to go on a road trip to play that night. That's what I say is during football season. Yeah, they were fixed to go. Well, because I said, look, I think we should do that because I know these people. And if you do size podcasts, I can have you back by, it was like three o'clock. Yeah. Because they were leaving town at 2.30. So I liked the way that was set up.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I was like, we get there at 2 o'clock. They have to leave at 2.30. We're out of there. So we wind up doing that. Of course, we just put this together in two minutes. So we show up out there at Washington, and we show up out there at Washington. And because I knew the head coach, my son played football there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And they got the pretty much the same coach. You and I were there the first couple of years of the school. And the reason I wanted to do that one is because I know those guys, they love Jesus. Oh, yeah. And they put Jesus first in their program, the football program, because I went, you know, went through it with my son. So we walked in there, but I just, the buzz was amazing. I mean, they were excited.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I mean, even the coaches. And I spoke probably five minutes. Because I was worried, I mean, look, this guy was baptized the night before and as fired up as he is. And he's talked in front of people before, because on the way out there, he said, well, I've done this before, but I always felt like something was missing in my message. And he said, but I don't feel that way right now. And I said, I like where you're thinking with this. I said, well, look, I'll break the ice for you so it's not so awkward. I'll talk five minutes, and then I'll pass it off to you.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I'll just kind of tell how we got here. And I was like, then you share what you're doing there. And it was, he did amazing. He probably talked seven or eight minutes, and there was, all eyes were glued. because I was standing beside him watching the young men, the football players. And we've all been in the front of enough audiences to know when you got them and when you got them. There wasn't a cell phone. There wasn't a blink.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And it was the story of Jesus. It was to make the most of opportunity. Most of you, this will wind up your football career right here. You need to make the most of that opportunity. And so then, of course, then people were texting me. Of course, they just descended on him after it. He signed everything that they had shook their hand.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And so then we left. Then he did size podcast. And but people were texting me already. That's why I should have made the connection that there's quite a buzz going on here. And so, because even that night, they said, well, good job, because they won by like four. touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:09:43 You know, they went on a road trip, played a higher classification school, I think. They used to be, I'm not sure now. But I think they won like 48 to 20 or something like that. So everybody was like, well, you didn't screw that up. I was thinking, look, our speech, I'm not sure we should be equating that. So you were higher elevation than just a football game. So then the next day I took him out and we had, you know, we ate supper all together. Some of our family got together that night, kind of a celebration deal.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Then we studied the Bible pretty much all night. And then I took him down to the land and showed him our duc places because he had to fly out. But we get back, well, the media mans are in our yard when we get back, the local media. Uh-oh. I'm like, what's going on here? Well, they got wind of the OCS thing. and, you know, it's just, this is, so they sent a... They had their little cars that are wrapped with the name of the cars on the TV station on it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I always laugh about that because in local TV markets, they got like a little Kia or something. You know, the little bitty car, you got to go cheap, and it's got the name emblazoned on the side of it. So the media had sent my neighbor the schedule, and he had forwarded it to the football player. He looked at me, and he's like, I'm fixing to get on a plane, you know. And I was like, okay, I'm your handler. So I got with the media, and I was like, look, it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:11:19 You got five questions and ten minutes. Which is smart anyway, because local media, you know what that's going to be? About 20 seconds on their broadcast. Well, exactly. But they had B-roll shots and here's the wardrobe. I was like, oh, no. No, no. I was like, you come as you are.
Starting point is 00:11:35 That's right. You get five questions. I was like, y'all can build your, because it is a, cool story. I mean, the guy's on his bi-week, he's down here talking to kids and talking about Jesus. I mean, look, I love the story. And so it
Starting point is 00:11:49 went really well, and I'm real happy with it. And I appreciated the buzz about it, and I think we got it right. So if I offended anybody in our community, I'm not apologizing because it's like, there's not enough hours in the day. We did the best we could.
Starting point is 00:12:05 He wasn't Jace, the Duckman. He was Jace, the handler. I was Jace the handler, which was humbling and it made me appreciate my handler. Yeah. So. Well, it was interesting because I mentioned in my sermon yesterday, Jay's because it fit. I was in this, I mentioned this last podcast. I was going to do this Caution's 115 text.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And it was the second step in the recovery, cellular recovery deal, which is earnestly believed that God exists. And so I was making the point right off the bat in my intro that. that if you've got to look at, is Jesus big enough to believe in in your life? Because if you've got other things that are bigger, he won't be. And so I mentioned this young man. I was like, look, he told an amazing story about his journey to get to the NFL. He got cut. He came back.
Starting point is 00:12:56 He worked. He believed in himself. And he mentioned all that building up. But then he realized in his life that wasn't big enough. Yeah. As great as it is, as much as we love the fact he's doing it. and that's what led him to want to have a deeper relationship with Christ. And so that's what led him here.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And then I mentioned the Dodgers win the World Series, which is a big deal to me. But I said, you know what happens? As soon as the game was over and the parade was over, they looked at the manager and they said, do it again. Yeah. That's because anything in this life is temporary results. And even if you're at the pinnacle,
Starting point is 00:13:29 you're only at the pinnacle, T, do it again. You do it again, to do it again. So I was making the point that Jesus is big enough that he did it. So we don't have to worry about doing it again and again again. Exactly. That was my lead in. But he was a great illustration for that idea. But what happens is when Jesus is shared and people respond,
Starting point is 00:13:49 and especially if they have a platform, it starts a fire. That's right. Do you know what I'm doing this weekend? I'm speaking to the local college team before the game, ULM. And then the next night we're doing the FCA, the Fellowship of Christian, athletes are having a big gathering at ULM, and I'll be speaking there. So the following night, so I'm like, this is what happens. I mean, this is the Book of Acts continuing in the community where people are responding
Starting point is 00:14:22 to Jesus. We're going to look up, Zach, in a couple of weeks, and there's going to be the little panel on NFL network. And we've got a special guest today. Guys, knows all these players, old Jace Robertson. She may get in there with this, man. This will be your thing. So, but I will say this.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Of all the things that happened with that encounter, you know, it comes back down to the quarterback, you know, for the 49ers that he mentioned. Just being bold about his faith, planting the seed, you know, his parents planting the seed when he was young. But all these little things coming together, you know, if you don't think Jesus is not powerful. Yep.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I give you that mother. the last three days of my life. Hey, oh, by the way, guys, I did want to remind you, tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:15:08 Tuesday is the big day. We are going to be launching our new podcast or my new podcast called Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher. You can check us out anywhere, a podcast or her, wherever you listen to them at. Also, you can go to the YouTube channel,
Starting point is 00:15:22 which is at Dash or Zach, Z-C-H, at Dasher Zach. And look, the best way you can help us is just leave a comment, subscribe, and then rate the podcast, Any of that helps us get up the algorithm, so I want to thank you all to advance.
Starting point is 00:15:36 But tomorrow's a big day, so keep us in your prayers. And I was serious when I said, because the Cowboys and Saints lost again yesterday, but for the rest of this season, I'm pulling for the 49ers just for spiritual reasons. And I can't guarantee anything beyond that. But this year, because of spiritual support of not only our man Colton,
Starting point is 00:16:03 but also brought Purdy, I am pulling for them that they may get back to the Super Bowl. I mean, they're not great. They're having some struggles. but that's what I'm going for. That's where we're going. That's where we're going. This year we're 49ers fans.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I never thought I'd say that. But I was impressed by the whole thing too, Jay, so it has an impact on you. Yeah, that's fantastic. What happens if we have somebody from another team that wants to get baptized now? Then we'll pull for them too. I mean, this is a bad pressure. This is why Jason. I had to say this is really and truly this is one of the reason why Jason Willie used to be just like one team people like me.
Starting point is 00:16:39 But then they got to meeting so many awesome people on these teams and stuff. You start pulling for people more than you pull for teams. Because I've got to be honest, it doesn't have a place in my life like it used to. As much I love LSU, I don't let 18, 19-year-old men dictate my mood for very long, whether they want a football game. No, you're exactly right. I was into fantasy football before I knew what fantasy football was, because that's what fantasy football is.
Starting point is 00:17:06 You draft players from all different teams, they form your team, you root for them. Well, I did that based on the kingdom of God. I meet somebody who happens to be a professional player and he loves Jesus. Well, I'm rooting for them. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Well, Willie. It's like a fantasy team, but in this case, it's a reality. The kingdom is real. And Willie kind of got into that world. Whenever he first met Todd Helton somewhere, Helton was a hunter, played for the Rockies, and wind up having a real spiritual impact of his life, which opened the door for some.
Starting point is 00:17:39 other relationships, some we still have. It's a little Roche and all those guys. So it's like anything else. People are just people and all these things that they do, which we love because we love sports, is just a thing that they do for a living. Just like Iris is hunting and now it's podcast and, you know, it's just what we do. I'll tell you this, though, one thing on the football side
Starting point is 00:18:00 before we get into Colossians that I thought was impressive because this guy, granted, he was morning raised in Ohio, cut him a hunter-type, followed us. us along the way. And if you looked at him, because I made a couple comments during our last three days, I was like, boy, you're a lot smarter than you look,
Starting point is 00:18:20 you know, and he just kind of would chuckle, you know. But I can say that because look at me. That's right. So, but we were sitting there before he got after the media blitz, and he was fixed to go, I was fixed to take him to the airport. And we were, we just had college football on. And it was like third and one or something.
Starting point is 00:18:43 They just typical, I think we were watching Florida. Georgia. Yeah, Florida, Georgia. Sorry, Zach, to bring that. So it was like pivotal moment in the game. It was like third and two. Handoff. Well, the guy gets tackled like four yards in the back field.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And so I looked at him and I said, now we were talking, and we didn't even have the volume on the TV. It was just on. And I was like, whose fault was that? And he was like, the offensive tackle 100% because he was watching the offensive tackle. Right. And I said, well, why was that his fault?
Starting point is 00:19:26 And so he had ascertained in less than four seconds of viewing. He said, well, they had the strong side, the two receivers and the tied in was on the strong side. So the play was designed to cut back against and go on the weak side. So the offensive tackle should have known the one place you can't let the defensive end go is on the inside. And so about that time they were showing the replay. He said, look at that. He let him come in the inside.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And I said, well, don't you know that he knew the play? He said, oh, he knew the play. He didn't know why the play was created. And I thought, now that's some wisdom. because I thought about our Christian life. Yeah, that's good. It's like, it's one thing to know you're here. It's another reason to know why you're here.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That's right. And because he said he, you know, you conclude when you know where the place is going, well, where's the one place I can't let him come? And that's why it was his fault. He's like, now that comes to coaching too. I mean, somebody should have relayed that information or it didn't take. But it just made me realize, okay, there's a. difference in professional offensive lineman than playing football. That's what I was going to say that.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I was sitting here thinking, Jason, another spiritual application of that, him saying that, is look at his growth because he's been the pros now, what, five years? Yeah. And so he had a college career, but he's able to look at that college tackle as well as he would himself and say, oh, no, schoolboy. You know, here's what he's learned and matured to as an offensive lineman, which shows you how smart those guys are, you know, and what they know. Well, that was his transition, you know, in his speech, he said, what I learned was you very rarely get a second opportunity. Because after his first season, he got cut because he dominated in college. He had 48 starts. And he said it was actually pretty easy, just based on his size and speed. I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:24 you see a guy that's 6-6-320 and can move. Yeah. And he's smart. Well, but the smart part, I think, is what he realized, okay, I got to get dedicated. I got to start. watching some film. I got to start realizing why this play was even constructed here. And he said, that's the difference in why he came back and got better. But then he said, the ultimate thing is, I realize this is not about me, which is what led him to Christ. He's like, God's giving me this platform. That was the missing link in his mind because he's like, look, I can't work any harder. But I still realize this is not about me, and that's really helped him with his confidence. That's good.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Well, I've always said, you know, we talk about O. lineman, and, you know, if you're a football fan, you realize you'll hear the announcer say all the time, the war in the trenches, and this battle's going to be one in the trenches. And that's really true because the only time you really notice those guys is when bad things happen, somebody missed something. Because when they're functioning, it's just providing success for somebody else. So I just always thought that was a great illustration for us, because sometimes, I mean, like being the one carrying the ball, but instead sometimes she was in the trenches, man.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You're just trying to make sure we're going in the right direction. Well, now I thought the other winner in this is his quarterback because now that he contributed into him, his eternal path. Yeah, path changing. And now this confidence he has, I thought, you're fixed to get his best effort as far as protection is concerned. Winning. And then the NFL.
Starting point is 00:23:06 The NFL, the tackle, let's face it, is the key guy for that, because they protect the flanks both ways. Well, it was great. We obviously had fun with it because we've talked about it again on another podcast, but we wish him the best, and I'll definitely be a huge Colton fan this season as well as the 49ers. So I wanted to do, Jason, a quick run-through. I didn't get a chance to do this, just as a way of review,
Starting point is 00:23:36 for Colossians 2, 24 through 2, 5. And this was a section that Paul followed up with his amazing, I don't know what you'd call it, the song we called it, where he... Well, Colossians 1 24 through 25. Yeah, 124 through 25. And so it was about his ministry, and we kind of called it a labor of love. And you had three asses in there, which were great because they were in the text. You had the suffering, you had the serving, and you had the struggling, which we talked about
Starting point is 00:24:09 that word, being contending with God's energy. I added three more in my outline from the same section. First one was the source because the gospel was where we began in verse 23. And then I added the word secrecy because he talks about the mystery and how that it was unknown. And I think what makes that so special and so unique is because this was a happening. And we talk about this along the podcast, that everything up until the moment of Jesus coming here had been pointing to Jesus coming here. And so nobody really understood that except God.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And then when that was revealed to us, it was the game changer. And it still is to this very day. And the last one was the last section we talked about, which was strength that you get from two to through five. So that was part of his, that was part of the idea that we can, we don't. don't have to worry about the struggle as much in the continuing because the energy comes from the almighty that's where the strength comes from yeah he puts that when he says in 29 to this in our labor struggling with all his energy right which so powerfully works in me and i just wanted to add you're like why is the struggle serving and suffering even coming it's it's when god
Starting point is 00:25:28 makes his plan and presence known, there's always going to be resistance. Because in this world, there are spiritual forces of evil. We do have our selfish desires. And when that is taught and proclaim, you see that in 28, we proclaim him, admonishing and teaching everyone with all wisdom. To this end, you know, I struggle.
Starting point is 00:25:54 So when that is proclaimed, there's always going to be resistance. resistance. Right. So, and you really see that even with the conversation we've been having about Colton, when you're new in the faith, even all the hoopla that happened immediately after is now all of a sudden we're in need of wisdom and what to do and we don't want to hurt people's feelings and you're talking to lots of people and people getting their feelings heard. It's like there's a struggle here as we're serving. Yeah. I mean, and it's just the way. And it's just the this happens, it's not going to be very comfortable.
Starting point is 00:26:32 It may not even be a matter of persecution. I mean, I think just in any form of a maturation process of any sort, whether I want to mature in my physique, and so I'm going to start working out, like anything. Or I'm going to learn a new language or I want to get a degree and accounting from a university. Like whatever that maturation process is, if you're maturing into something, just by the very nature of it, it's going to be a toil. It's going to be a struggle. It's going to take work. It's going to be, you know, you're going to have adversity.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I just had this conversation with Max and my son and just about because they're, you know, they're trying to make it music. And he's also in school at the same time. And I'm like, you know, the idea, you got to get out of your mind and anything in life. like for most of us you're not going to wake up one day and just be like man i i went from zero to a hundred in one day no you're going to go from zero to one and from one to two two to four then four back down to three and then three back up to five and it's just a it's a up it's like a trajectory and i think that's the process here it is a process of maturing in christ and it doesn't happen overnight which all the more you know lends the case for why we hit so much on like
Starting point is 00:27:54 formation and there's little things in life, there's moment by moment, sanctification moments that Francis Schaefer calls it moment by moment, but it's an idea that it's not a one and done. There's no arrival mindset on this side of the second coming. It's a, it is a walk in, in, uh, in conjunction with the way. It is a, uh, being in proximity to Jesus. It's being with him on a daily basis like any relationship any relationship it's going to take time effort and energy to mature that relationship into into deeper intimacy same thing here you can't bypass that into some kind of like give me a pill give me a doctrine give me a thing that i can just take it one time and be inoculated then i'm good that's not that's not the picture that paul's painting here yeah i heard a
Starting point is 00:28:49 good illustration on that from nt right one time when he was like he was saying it's hard to explain how the growth process happens, but he said it's really like when you first start learning how to ride a bike, the last thing you want to do in your mind is keep going. Because it's, you're wanting to start, you know, and I did this with all my kids, you know, then they're trying to get off, it falls over. All of the problem is if you just take off.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah. And so with all of them, I would eventually be just pushing it. And then they would think I was always there. And at some point, I'd just let go. And they don't realize I'm no longer pushing. And they're looking around, and they're just, they keep it moving. And I think that was a really good illustration, is that Jesus is about moving forward in your life,
Starting point is 00:29:44 whether it's proclaiming or serving others or looking for opportunities. it's just something you're not going to stop doing. It's not like, okay, I'm in, therefore I can go rest. Oh, no, it's going forward now where you work, where you, if you're in school. The bicycle was a great analogy. I would use another one because I had an experience with it recently. You know those things, I think they call them, I think they call them like a hover around. It's like two wheels and then there's a deck in it like in between the two wheels and you stand on it.
Starting point is 00:30:17 and you lean forward or backwards and the thing just like moves. Well, we got the kids, one of those, Fred, and I mean, he's on this thing like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:27 I mean, it looks like it's just an extension of his body. So I wanted to try it and I got on. And let me just say, I host somebody video that. Oh, it was, I stepped on it.
Starting point is 00:30:39 How quick did you go down? Let's just say about, about, about, it was less of a second. I mean, I stepped on it. And,
Starting point is 00:30:47 and, And I'm like kind of, you know, as soon as I got that second foot on it, that thing went out from underneath me. Before I was going to make fun of you for doing that, I'm going to have to confess, I did the same thing. Reed got one. And I said, let me get up on that thing. Bomp, head on the floor.
Starting point is 00:31:05 My head bounced off the floor before I even knew I was on it. Oh, I said this thing. Here's a death trap for adults. That's the difference in spiritual maturity. You boys are younger than me. I'm never going to, I, we were in a hotel recently, like the last time I was on a trip, and the elevator opens up and a man that looked like he was 45 or plus years old comes out on one of the, out of the elevator.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And he just zooms by us. And I thought, what in the world? I mean, do we need to do that in the hotel? But that's the only way you can stay up right to Zach's point. Because me and Zach both tried to get up on it. You don't get up on it. You take off on it. Just like the bike, right?
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah, if you just take off, you're all right. Playing the role of Phil since he's not here. That's why I don't get on hover things. No hover rounds. I don't get on things like that. I don't, you know, I sit. I don't try to ride things with wheels. I remember him as a teenager.
Starting point is 00:32:06 He sat me down and he said, let me explain something to you. Because our buddies had a motorcycle and he was coming down there and was like trying to get us to ride up. on it. He said, let me explain something to you. Four wheels is better than two. And two wheels are better than one. I was like, waiting for the next part. And he was like, that's it. Never forget that. It'll save your life. Dangerous. Dangerous, boys. I mean, that's, but it's funny that when you think about it, because riding a bike's the same way, you know, you bust your tail on it over and over and over again and then all of a sudden like something clicks and you had that moment where the parent like
Starting point is 00:32:56 let's go with a bike and you you don't realize it but you're you're peddling and you're on your own and then from that moment on guess what you never think about it again because it clicks and then it becomes muscle memory and so now I haven't rid of bike in several years but if I get on one I mean I'm gonna I can ride a bike it's not gonna fall over not gonna fall and and like with Fred when watching him on that hover round. Like he's not thinking on there. I got to move this way. I got to,
Starting point is 00:33:23 he, it's completely fluid. He has become one with the hover round because of his muscle memory. And he's been in proximity to it. He just knows it now. And that's actually a really good analogy of, of what it looks like when we mature in Christ, that it is a toil and it is a labor.
Starting point is 00:33:42 But what is the end that we're trying to meet is that it will become our default. And that the fruit of the spirit, from Galatians chapter 5 love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, goodness, faithfulness, self-control, all those things, that that will become our default. That will become our muscle memory. And that, but to get to a place where there's that maturation process, you have to work on the fundamentals of whatever the thing is. The same thing with golf, the same thing with any sport.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Skiing, yeah. Everything. But like when you go out there on it, like these golfers that, like, they're constantly working on their swing and what they're doing is they want they it's the muscle memory how many times you heard muscle memory anytime you're training for a sport and so you are or like a um a boxing match i was watched or mma fight i was watching a what's the guy's name the uh the irish guy that's the best um i don't i don't want but i know you're talking about what's his name come on uh anyways he was doing this choreograph dance and then they were or mike tyson for example and they
Starting point is 00:34:47 show the choreograph that he does in training, and it's the same exact move that he does in the fight. So they're rehearsing these moves over and over and over again. So when they get in the ring, Connor McGregor, that's what becomes their default. They're just, they're not thinking about swinging and punch, and they're just doing what they train to do. And that is work, and that is toil, and that is a struggle.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And that's when Paul says in verse 29, for this, I toil, struggling with all his energy that he may powerfully the powerfully works within me. That's kind of the picture, I think, that I get when I read and think about this idea of toil, struggle, you know, moving forward and maturing. And that's actually a perfect back to our text, because this section that we're just wrapping up, 124 to 25, he's reminding them of these things in relationship to his ministry and how he feels about them.
Starting point is 00:35:43 So I'm going to read verse 5. and then I want to read this next section so we can break it down. He says, this is verse 5 of chapter 2. For though I am absent from you in body, I am present with you in spirit, because we've made the point out long that he's never actually been there with him, but they share this same love of Christ and delight to see how orderly you are and how firm your faith in Christ is. So I love it.
Starting point is 00:36:07 He gives him this compliment. Look, the word on what you guys are doing, And even though he's about to address some things he's worried about, is that, you know, you love the Lord, you're in the right place. I just need to help you, you know, tighten that up and help you remember that initial thing as we've been talking about. And I thought about, Jay's, the idea about how word gets out when something good happens.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And that's exactly what you were talking about Errin's spirit, so how the word and the buzz just kind of went around about this thing that was happening this week. And that's what's happening here with the Colossian Church as it relates to Paul. And so he's going to return back to sort of the theme he had before. He had that little interlude about his ministry because he says, so then, so this is kind of a change in thought. And I call this section Jesus' Lord these first few verses in which he's already established how awesome he is in terms of the creator and the recreator and the rescuer.
Starting point is 00:37:04 So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord continue to live in Him. him, rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness. And here's this little caveat, because this is obviously what's happening, there's a problem. See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ. And we pretty much know that's what was happening. That was what was creating the tension, the issues. Now he's going to go back to his earlier theme, but he's going to advance it, which is even more powerful. In verse 9, for in Christ, all the fullness of the deity lives in bodily form,
Starting point is 00:37:58 which he'd kind of explained that earlier, but now he's going to add something to that, and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power. were in authority. So now he's like saying, because of the fullness of Christ and deity, that now belongs to you because of him. And now he's going to describe how that happens. Look at verse 11. In him, you were also circumcised in the putting off of the sinful nature or the flesh, as some would say, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men, but with the circumcision done by Christ. Having been buried with him in baptism, and raised with him through your faith and the power of God, who raised him from the dead.
Starting point is 00:38:42 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code with its regulations that was against us, and that stood opposed to us, he took it away, nailing it to the cross, and having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them triumphing over them by the cross. So my initial take is, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:24 when he said, for in Christ all the fullness of the deity lives in Bali form, verse 9, that is kind of a throwback to, in chapter 1, verse 19, where it said, for God was pleased to have all his full, dwell in him and through him to reconcile himself all things including people whether things on earth or things in heaven by making peace through his blood shed on the cross so what i was going to say this is this is funny not funny ha ha funny ironic is that i would say colossians 115 through 21 is top 10
Starting point is 00:40:04 sections that churches use. Colossians 2, which is our participation. Right. And this uses is bottom 10 passages used in churches because, you know, you just read that and your eyes kind of glaze over. It's like what? I mean, all of a sudden we have circumcision brought up. You're like, well, baptism.
Starting point is 00:40:34 it's like we've been given fullness and people just avoid it because I think it seems complex when you first read it and there's probably a hundred and one different thoughts on this section so that's keep that in mind but we're going to tackle it and
Starting point is 00:40:56 try to simplify it from what from how what we think but one point I wanted to make before we get into the meat of what he said is in that first verse, verse six, to do another little throwback, six and seven, it says, so then just as you receive Christ as Lord, continue to live in him. So this is the transition from him saying, look how supreme Jesus is, to how you're going to live in him. And that's why he's going to remind them of their baptism and remind them that they have all fullness, or remind them that the law has been nailed to the cross, that he's triumphed over the, over the, and that's the
Starting point is 00:41:34 the powers that tried to take him down. He's using these things as ways to motivate them to eventually, when you get to chapter three, what does he say, since you've been raised with Christ, set your mind on things above. But so then he says, rooted and built up in him, which is an awesome illustration, because he's using the garden illustration where we're a plant, the gospel that, you know, he who plants and waters are nothing, but only God makes things grow. He uses that illustration. He uses the building illustration.
Starting point is 00:42:11 We're the temple of God. So you're being built up in Christ and rooted. So both illustrations, I think, are awesome. We are God's house and we are God's field, which I think is awesome. Strengthen in the faith as you were taught. But then he says this other statement, which I had overlooked,
Starting point is 00:42:31 and this is what I wanted to bring up in our level. few minutes before we next podcast get into the meat of what this illustration means and overflowing with thankfulness well when I read that at my private study I was like seems like he keeps bringing up being thankful a lot so if you look back in one three he's thanking god for them because of their faith then in one 12 he says giving thanks to the Father, and this is his prayer for them to give thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in the kingdom of light. So all of a sudden he's saying there's something to being thankful for what God is doing
Starting point is 00:43:25 in our lives, and now he brings it up again. So in this transition of how Supreme Jesus is and us living in him, he's like, you should be overflowing with thankfulness. Well, when you get to chapter 3 in verse 15, which I think is one of the key verses, let the peace of Christ rule in your heart. So it's one thing that he's qualified you to be in the kingdom. It's another thing that he's ruling as king in your heart.
Starting point is 00:43:54 We talked about that earlier. Since as members of one body, you were called to peace, but look what he says next, and be thankful. so in 317 he says and whatever you do whether in word or do you do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus giving thanks to God the Father through him then in 4 chapter 2 devote yourself to prayer being watchful and thankful now my point is when the Bible starts repeating itself over and over always have to stop and say, why is he stressing this so much?
Starting point is 00:44:35 And so now you realize these people are hearing these other philosophies and we know what happens. They start arguing. And all of a sudden you realize that this is a lot like when Jesus was going around and I wanted to go read them real quick in Luke and he's doing all these wonderful things
Starting point is 00:44:57 but he was highlighting the people who came back and gave thanks. Because that's what's going to keep you mature and realizing how grateful you should be over what God has done. And so I picked the one in Luke, and I'll just give that, and then I'll get your thoughts on it. So in Luke 4, just to get this back to the kingdom,
Starting point is 00:45:17 in Luke 4 in verse 45, he says, but Jesus said, I must preach the good news of the kingdom to other towns also, because that is why I sent. So it's not like this. This kingdom is all of a sudden coming out of nowhere to the Colossians. You remember where he,
Starting point is 00:45:36 one of the first words of one of the other gospels is the time has come. The king is here. You're looking at him. So when you get to Luke 17, you remember this story in verse 11 when he was on his way to Jerusalem. Jesus traveled along the border as he was going into a village. Ten men had leprosy. They stood at a distance and called out in a loud voice.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Jesus has master have pity on us when he saw them he said go show yourselves to the priests and as they went they were cleansed and without going into detail when you had leprosy back then you were an outcast you couldn't go anywhere you were basically a crack in society loneliness people were terrified of you and you were out unclean so so they did and they were cleansed one of the ten when he saw he was healed came back praising and a loud voice he threw himself at jesus feet and thanked him he was a samaritan jesus asked we're not all ten cleansed where are the other nine was no one found was was no one found to return and give praise to god except this foreigner then he said rise and go your faith has made you well and i do think
Starting point is 00:46:53 there's something in there about Paul bringing up the Gentiles, revealing the mystery, which is Christ in you, and then he keeps saying, be thankful, be thankful, be thankful. So then I wanted to read Luke 18. We see the opposite side of this from a religious point of view. You remember where, in verse 9, to some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told them this parable. Two men went up to, to the temple to pray, one of Pharisee and the other tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself, and listened to his prayer. God, I thank you.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Now, he's being thankful, right, that I'm not like other men, robbers, evildoers, or adulters, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get. But the tax collector stood at the distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breasts and said, God have mercy on me a sinner. I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God, for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And I read that to show there's different ways of being thankful, whether you're giving God the true glory for what the energy he has supplying and the strength and the power and the forgiveness rather than yourself. But I just wanted to say, that's where he starts this. section about being thankful about what he has done and who Jesus is rather than how you're coping with it. No, I think that's, I think you're into exactly why Paul kept missing it, because I've noticed in many, many years of ministry, because you come across a lot of different people in the kingdom, that people who are thankful and grateful tend to not think that they
Starting point is 00:48:48 deserve things and focus on their rights. People who go to the people who go to the other way that think they deserve things because for whatever reason, I'm just speaking generally, they don't seem to be very thankful and grateful about what they have. It's like, well, I deserve that. That's, that's mine. And you hear this, and you see it really like in politics and then stuff like that where everything is about what I'm getting or not getting my rights, my this, my that. The one thing that always seems to be lacking is gratitude. Yeah. For their situation, you can be in the greatest country in the world, but if you only focus, on what you're not getting, what you don't have, you're not a very grateful person.
Starting point is 00:49:28 And your attitude stinks. And you can probably tell the reason I wanted to set this up is because he set it up that way. We're overflowing with thankfulness. And then when you get to chapter 2 and verse 6th of what else you read, there's more religious people arguing about that section. And I'm thinking, look, this is not about us. I mean, overall, this is about Jesus and us being.
Starting point is 00:49:53 overflowing and being thankful. I'm just glad I'm here. I'm glad you thought enough of me to send your son to die, to be resurrected. I can have hope and contribute and just be willing to struggle and suffer and serve in some capacity. So before we get out of here, I do want to mention a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Zach, you've got a new podcast that's getting ready to drop. What's it called? Not yet now. Jason's going to work with me on maybe changing the title, but for now, yet now is what we're calling it right now. And that's going to be you doing some Bible study with some of your guys up there. So we're excited that this one drop on Tuesdays.
Starting point is 00:50:33 So it'll give you one more. Yeah, tomorrow. Yeah, so it'll be one more day. By the way, on the YouTube side, you can go to at Dasher Zach Z-A-C-H on YouTube and anywhere a podcast or heard. All right. So we set it up. That's a good backdrop. We're out of time for the next podcast.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Because like Jay said, we're going to dive into this two. six and following because there's some really rich stuff in there as well so we'll see you next time on push it thanks for listening to the unashamed podcast help us out by rating us on itunes and don't miss an episode by subscribing on youtube and be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes and for even more content that you won't get anywhere else subscribe to blazed tv at blazed tv.com slash unashamed.

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