UNBIASED - Everything We Know About the Charlie Kirk Suspect, ICE Agents Kill Man Resisting Arrest, Missouri Passes New Congressional Map, New U.S. Jobs Report Sparks Investigation, and More

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

SUBSCRIBE TO JORDAN'S FREE NEWSLETTER. Get the facts, without the spin. UNBIASED offers a clear, impartial recap of US news, including politics, elections, legal news, and more. Hosted by lawye...r Jordan Berman, each episode provides a recap of current political events plus breakdowns of complex concepts—like constitutional rights, recent Supreme Court rulings, and new legislation—in an easy-to-understand way. No personal opinions, just the facts you need to stay informed on the daily news that matters. If you miss how journalism used to be, you're in the right place. In today's episode: Everything We Know About the Tyler Robinson: Charlie Kirk's Suspected Assassin (1:40) Supreme Court Issues Transgender Bathroom Use Ruling (18:04) ICE Agents Shoot and Kill Man Resisting Arrest Leading to Controversy (21:42) Department of Defense Memo Details Plans to Send National Guard Troops to Louisiana (27:45) Missouri Lawmakers Pass New Congressional Map to Likely Add One Republican House Seat (31:16) Bureau of Labor Statistics Says U.S. Added 911,000 Less Jobs Than Originally Thought. Here's What It Means (34:48) Quick Hitters: NY Gov. Endorses Mamdani, DOJ Sues Uber for $125M, TikTok Deal Reportedly Reached, Men Arrested in Salt Lake City for Placing Bomb Under News Van, Trump Says Construction on Ballroom Has Begun (38:38) Good News From UNBIASED Community Members (42:33) Critical Thinking Segment (46:12) SUBSCRIBE TO JORDAN'S FREE NEWSLETTER. Watch this episode on YouTube. Follow Jordan on Instagram and TikTok. All sources for this episode can be found here.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to Unbiased, your favorite source of unbiased news and legal analysis. Welcome back to Unbiased Politics. Today is Monday, September 15th. Let's talk about some news. I know I have quite a few new people listening today, so I just wanted to make a quick note that this podcast does not cover international affairs. When I asked everyone on Instagram yesterday what they wanted to hear about in today's episode, I received a number of requests for things like what's going on in Palestine,
Starting point is 00:00:30 what, you know, what's with the protests in London, what's happening in the Congo, can you give us an update on Ukraine, things like that. As a general rule, I do not get involved in international matters unless the United States is playing some sort of substantial role in a particular situation. Back when the conflict between Israel and Hamas first broke out, I did two separate episodes all about the history of the conflict between Palestine and Israel. real and answered a lot of your questions. And while those episodes were great, I realized over time that, you know, being a one woman show, it's just not feasible to cover the globe. The quality of my work is much better, just focused on the United States. So that's what I do. However, I do have an
Starting point is 00:01:19 international section in my newsletter, which goes out every Tuesday and Friday. It's not as detailed as the podcast. It's basically quick hitters in pop culture, politics, business, health, and international news. But you can always find that, or I should say, subscribe to that by clicking the newsletter link in the show notes of each episode. So with that quick little note out of the way, let's talk about some news, starting with arguably the biggest story from the last few days, which is that officials identified and have in custody the suspected shooter of Charlie Kirk. He is a 22-year-old Tyler Robinson. So Robinson was taken into custody on Thursday night in St. George, Utah, around 11 p.m. local time after allegedly confessing to his father.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Utah's governor, Spencer Cox, who has been playing a pretty big role in keeping everyone updated throughout this investigation, said Friday at a press conference, quote, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident. And quote, that family member who reached out to a family friend is confirmed to have been Robinson's father. So here's what we know about the suspect. Robinson was raised in St. George, Utah, by his parents alongside his two younger brothers. Robinson's father owns a business installing kitchen countertops and cabinets. His mother is a licensed social worker.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Robinson became a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as Mormon. At a young age, however, his family apparently had not been as active in the church in recent years. He was a 4.0 honor roll student who scored in the 99th percentile nationally on standardized tests. His ACT, he scored a 34 out of 36. He graduated from Pineview High School in St. George in 2021. He was offered a four-year merit scholarship to Utah State University, but he actually only attended Utah State for one semester before he enrolled at Dixie Technical College in St. George. In 2022, he earned his apprentice electrician license, and at the time of the shooting, he was a third-year student in the electrical apprenticeship program. Former classmates described him as, quote, quiet all the time and a little goof.
Starting point is 00:03:50 noting that he liked to play video games. Now, a lot of you, and actually, before we get to politics, just to touch on that video game remark, he has a very, he was very much involved in the internet, starting at a young age, and we'll talk a little bit about his involvement on Discord, but he was very much an internet kid. Now, I know a lot of you, like I said, have questions about politics, so this is what we know as of now. According to Governor Cox, Robinson grew up in a conservative.
Starting point is 00:04:20 conservative family, but his own ideology was different. Cox has said, quote, it's very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who is deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. And quote, when Governor Cox was pressed by CNN's Dana Bash about where that conclusion was coming from, Cox said that it's coming from family members and other individuals who have been interviewed by the FBI. die. Now, it's important to note that we don't have any examples from officials about his leftist ideology other than his remarks about Charlie Kirk. Specifically, a family member of Robinson told investigators that at a recent family dinner, Robinson mentioned Kirk coming to UVU in the near future and mentioned that he did not like Kirk. He did not like the viewpoints Kirk had
Starting point is 00:05:10 and that Kirk was, quote, full of hate and spreading lies. However, outside of those remarks, we don't at least at this point have any other information from officials that would confirm his leftist ideology. We do know that I believe it was the Guardian that reported someone that Robinson went to high school with also said that Robinson shared leftist ideology, but then the Guardian actually issued a correction saying that the person they spoke to retracted their statement saying that they didn't really remember. So nothing, I mean, Governor Cox said that this, this is indicative of leftist ideology, but again, we don't have any official examples outside of those remarks about
Starting point is 00:05:51 Charlie Kirk at this point. I know some people were speculating that Robinson was even further right than Kirk, and that's why he didn't like Kirk, but we don't have any evidence of that at this time, and that's not what officials are saying. So once we know more, I will update you accordingly. Voter registration record show Robinson is currently registered as being unaffiliated with any party and per the Washington County Clerk, he's never cast a ballot in any election. We also know that Robinson lived in an apartment in St. George with a transgender partner. That partner is a male transitioning to a female and according to officials has been very cooperative with law enforcement and knew nothing about Robinson's plans. When asked
Starting point is 00:06:37 by CNN's Dana Bash, whether there's truth to the fact the suspect lived with a transgender partner. Governor Cox said, quote, yes, I can confirm that, that the roommate was a romantic partner, a male transitioning to female. I can say that he has been incredibly cooperative, had no idea this was happening, and is working with investigators right now. And quote, Cox also said that investigators were looking at that relationship as a potential motive for the murder, but that's about as much as we know on that front. Now, let's talk about his Discord messages. So Discord, for those that may not be familiar, is like a mix between a group chat and a community forum. So you can talk with friends directly, basically like texting. You can also stream live.
Starting point is 00:07:24 You can video chat. You can join what are called servers, which are like online communities built around shared interests. So gaming, sports, politics, hobbies, etc. Then inside those servers, conversations are organized into different channels, which are basically like chat rooms for specific topics. So as an example, maybe there's a book club server for people who like to read. And then within the book club server, there are different channels for different genres of books. That's obviously a very innocent example. But that's the general gist. There are also some pretty dark corners of discord too, which can involve, you know, extremist propaganda, grooming, exploitation, even worse. So there are definitely dark corners of discord, but not all of discord is dark.
Starting point is 00:08:11 A lot of people use discord for gaming, studying, just hanging out with people online. So what we know from these discord messages that were given to law enforcement is that after the FBI released surveillance images of the suspect, a user on Discord who was in the group that Robinson was in, along with about 20 other people, tagged Robinson's username and wrote YWA with a skull emoji, which stands for where are you at? Keep in mind that the other users in this chat didn't know about Robinson's plan. So at this point, tagging Robinson was just meant to imply that Robinson looked like the suspect in the surveillance pictures. This other user was saying it as a joke, right, not knowing that Robinson was actually the
Starting point is 00:09:02 suspect. Robinson then wrote back saying that his doppelganger is trying to get him in trouble. Another user then wrote in the chat, Tyler killed Charlie, which officials again just they think it was a joke considering they didn't know about Robinson's plan. Another user then suggested that the group could turn Robinson in and get the $100,000 reward that the FBI was offering. Robinson responded to that, only if I get a cut. Another user then wrote, whatever you do, don't go to a McDonald's anytime soon. This was in reference to the arrest of Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the United Health Care's CEO's murder. Robinson agreed and wrote back, quote,
Starting point is 00:09:44 Better also get rid of this manifesto, an exact copy rifle I have laying around. end quote another user suggested that the killing of kirk would result in president trump sending the national guard into utah to which robinson replied quote in a red state nah clearly this shooter was from california end quote robinson also wrote in the chat quote i heard the ammo had something about trans stuff on it but they aren't releasing photos or exact quotes and then robinson followed that up with quote and also the claim wasn't backed by the official FBI just some dude in the briefing room, end quote. A few minutes later, Robinson joked, writing quote, I'm actually Charlie Kirk wanted to get out of politics, so I faked my death. Now I can live out
Starting point is 00:10:30 my dream in Kansas. And quote. So that exchange on Discord was around 1 p.m. local time on Thursday. We know that about 10 hours later is when he was taken into custody. So at some point after having that exchange on Discord, he must have confessed to his dad, which let his dad to contact a family friend who ultimately reached out to law enforcement. Robinson is not currently cooperating with investigators and has not spoken to them since invoking his right to an attorney, which by the way is not unusual. Okay. So once you invoke your right to remain silent and you get representation, you typically do not want to say another word if you want any chance of freedom down the road. The people who don't care about, you know, freedom hoping to get
Starting point is 00:11:11 off, they'll talk. They'll confess. They'll say whatever. But the people who want a chance of freedom, they will not speak a word. So that's the current situation. Robinson, again, has not confessed to the shooting, and he is currently being held without bail in a special unit at a Utah jail. It's worth noting that the criminal complaint against Robinson has not yet been filed, but once it is, which could be tomorrow, we will likely get more information about the allegations against Robinson and what the FBI has found during the course of its investigation. And of course, once we have that, once I go through it, once I read it, I will update you accordingly. So what I want to do now before we jump off to the next unrelated story is talk about a few
Starting point is 00:12:00 parallel storylines here. First, I want to address the theories that the suspect does not look like the person in the surveillance pictures released by the FBI. I really only have a few things to say here. First and foremost, the surveillance pictures that were released by the FBI were very blurry. Since then, I have seen enhanced images being compared to pictures of the suspect. And while I agree that the enhanced pictures don't necessarily look like the pictures we've seen of the suspect, we have to keep in mind that those enhanced pictures might not be accurate, right? It was not the FBI that released those enhanced images. So most likely, it's some AI platform out there that someone used and, you know, the platform said this is probably what this person looks like if we
Starting point is 00:12:42 enhance the image. So please just take those pictures with a grain of salt that are circulating. The other thing worth noting is that this morning, FBI director Cash Patel confirmed that DNA from the towel that was wrapped around the suspected murder weapon and DNA from a screwdriver that was left on the UVU rooftop both match Tyler Robinson. Patel also said that Robinson wrote a note prior to the shooting saying, quote, the written note that we believe it did exist. And we have evidence to show what was in that note, which is, and I'm going to summarize basically saying the suspect wrote a note saying, I have the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it. That note was written before the shooting. Evidence of its existence, we now have
Starting point is 00:13:26 learned existed before the shooting, was in the location in the suspect of partners home. But we have since learned that the note, even though it has been destroyed, we have found forensic evidence of the note and we have confirmed what the note says because of our aggressive interview posture at the FBI. End quote. I understand that that quote was very confusing, even as I watched him say it. The wording was just very confusing. Basically, he's saying they found forensic evidence of a note, but that note has since been destroyed. So do with that information what you will. The last thing I want to talk about is how people are getting fired for their remarks about Charlie Kirk. A few of you had questions about this. Specifically, your question was why
Starting point is 00:14:06 doesn't freedom of speech apply here? So we've heard about, I mean, a few people, but so far I think there's been a school resource officer that was fired. Teachers have been fired. Airline workers have been fired. An office depot worker was fired for refusing to print an image of Charlie Kirk for a customer that was going to a vigil. So let's talk about how these people can lawfully be terminated despite possessing the right to freedom of speech. What's most important to understand is that the First Amendment limits government action. It prevents the government from silencing or punishing you for your speech. However, the First Amendment does not require private employers to allow speech without consequences. And even when it comes to the government punishing you for speech,
Starting point is 00:14:51 there are exceptions like incitement to violence, true threats, obscenities. So there are always exceptions to your right to free speech. But this is to say that private employers are not obligated to follow the First Amendment in the same way that the government is. The First Amendment specifically protects you from punishment from the government. So let's take the teachers and the school resource officer first because these people are employed by public institutions, which are government actors. For public employees, some speech is protected, particularly when people are speaking as private citizens on matters of public concern. But that protection is not absolutely. If the speech disrupts the employer's interest in an efficient workplace, the employer can take
Starting point is 00:15:40 adverse action against the employee. And when it comes to whether speech disrupts the employer's interest in an efficient workplace, there are different factors that are taken into account. Does the speech impaired discipline by superiors or harmony among coworkers? Does the speech detract from work relationships that require loyalty and confidence? Does the speech impede? performance of the employee's duties or the office's operations generally. There are various questions that a court will run through to determine whether termination was lawful. The extent of disruption will be balanced against the speaker's interest in the speech in question. If the extent of the disruption is greater than the speaker's interest in the speech, the employee, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:26 was lawfully terminated. It's important to remember that even for public employees, free speech does not mean no consequences, especially if the speech is considered to be irresponsible or detrimental to their position or to public trust. When it comes to private employers like Office Depot or Delta Airlines or whatever, the rules are a lot more straightforward. If your employment is at will, which most private sector jobs in the United States are, your employer can end your employment for almost any reason, unless, you know, it's illegal, discrimination, retaliation, etc. But also, if your employer sees your speech as harming the company's reputation or violating company policy, you can be lawfully let go. Along similar lines, many workplaces have rules about
Starting point is 00:17:16 employee behavior, including what employees can post on social media. If someone's speech violates those rules, whether it be with hate speech, threats, statements condoning violence, whatever it is, the employer can rightfully terminate the employee. Now, specifically with the Office Depot employee, that employee refused to print an image of Charlie Kirk. That is a refusal to perform a job duty. That's a whole other issue, which can be grounds for termination. But at the end of the day, yes, we have a right to free speech. That right does not extend to all situations, especially when it comes to private employers. So let's take our first break here. When we come back, we'll talk about some news out of the Supreme Court, a controversial ice encounter in Chicago, and more.
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Starting point is 00:22:19 school district to allow a transgender student to use the boys bathroom. This is a ruling that was issued on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination, so it got a bit buried in the news, but I do want to briefly talk about it because it adds to the ongoing battle over the use of bathrooms in schools, which the Supreme Court has not officially decided, by the way. It's gotten a few requests to do so, but it's turned those cases down. So let's start by discussing the background of the case and what this recent Supreme Court order means for the future of the case and the future of the issue. Last year, South Carolina included a provision in its 2024-2020-5 budget appropriations bill that required students to use the school bathrooms that correspond with their biological sex at
Starting point is 00:23:07 the time of birth. That is still the law in South Carolina. But during the 2024 school year, in eighth grade transgender student who was born a female but identifies as male used the boy's restroom. Soon after, the student was suspended from school and reportedly threatened with expulsion. In response to that, the student filed a lawsuit with a group called the Alliance for Full Acceptance, which is a Charleston-based advocacy group, and argued that South Carolina's law violates Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, and the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. Now, initially, when this lawsuit was filed, the plaintiff requested what's called a preliminary injunction,
Starting point is 00:23:52 which we've talked about before. Basically, it would, in this case, prohibit the student's school from enforcing the state bathroom law against the plaintiff. Eventually, the request for a preliminary injunction went up to the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, and the injunction was granted. So the state of South Carolina then appealed that injunction, to the Supreme Court on an emergency basis. Now, the thing with emergency requests is that the
Starting point is 00:24:20 party requesting emergency intervention has to adequately show the court that it would be permanently harmed if it wasn't granted the relief it was seeking right away on an emergency basis, right? So in this case, South Carolina had to show that it would be permanently harmed if it couldn't enforce its school bathroom law against this particular student immediately. And on Wednesday, in a brief order, the Supreme Court denied South Carolina's request. South Carolina did not show sufficient evidence that it would be permanently harmed if it was barred from enforcing its state bathroom law against this student. So a few things to note here.
Starting point is 00:24:59 First, this order only applies to this particular student. So by denying South Carolina's request, the student school cannot punish this particular student for using the mail bathroom, but South Carolina schools can still continue to enforce the state law against other transgender students. The law is still very much in effect. Two, the Supreme Court's order did not decide the case on the merits, right? This case still has to play out in the district court, then make its way through the appellate process, and then eventually make its way to the Supreme Court. And even then, the Supreme Court doesn't have to decide this case. The Supreme Court has turned down at least three similar cases since 2019. So perhaps it
Starting point is 00:25:41 turns down this case as well, or maybe this is the case that, you know, the court finally takes to settle the debate. We shall see. Okay, moving on on Friday, an ICE officer shot and killed a man during an attempted arrest in a suburb of Chicago, Illinois. And the incident is causing a bit of controversy. So let's talk about this. 38-year-old Silvio Villegas Gonzalez was an undocumented immigrant from Mexico who had reportedly been living in the United States for decades. though it's unclear when he actually entered the country. Gonzalez was working in the U.S. as a cook at the time of his death, and he was also a father of three. He did not have a criminal record, though he had pleaded guilty to four different traffic violations over the years with the most recent violation in 2013.
Starting point is 00:26:30 According to a DHS statement, quote, ICE officers conducted a vehicle stop to arrest Silviero Viagas Gonzalez. He refused to follow law enforcement's commands and drove his car at. law enforcement officers. One of the ICE officers was hit by the car and dragged a significant distance. Fearing for his own life, the officer fired his weapon. The target of the enforcement operation was Silvira Villegas Gonzalez, a criminal illegal alien with a history of reckless driving. He entered the country at an unknown date and time. End quote. So I would like to make one thing clear because I always questions about this. So the DHS said in its statement, they called, they call Gonzalez a criminal illegal alien and I just, alien, and I just told you that he didn't
Starting point is 00:27:15 have a criminal record. So let me just clarify something really quick. When I say he didn't have a criminal record, I mean, there are no, there is no record of him committing any crimes. Okay. If he crossed the border illegally when he came into this country, technically he violated federal law and that is a crime. It doesn't mean it's on his record, but it means that he committed a crime. So that's likely why they're referring to him as a criminal illegal alien. Now, if he came in lawfully and overstayed his visa or something and was here, you know, illegally because he overstayed, that's not a crime under federal law. That's a civil offense. So he technically wouldn't be a criminal illegal alien.
Starting point is 00:27:56 But the fact that the DHS is referring to him as a criminal illegal alien implies that when he did come into the country, he crossed the border illegally. and that is how he got here. So I just wanted to clarify that because I know some of you may have caught that and thought to yourself, I thought you just said he didn't have a criminal record. Why are they calling him a criminal? So hopefully that clears things up. Since the incident, other officials like the governor of Illinois are calling for a detailed investigation. Governor Pritzker is asking for a quote, full factual account of what's happened to ensure transparency and accountability. Critics, including immigration advocates, claim that this shooting is another example of the aggressive. tactics employed by the federal government and that there was no cause for the stop in the first place. Gonzalez's family members have started a GoFundMe page in the wake of his death and they wrote in part, quote, it is cruel what ICE agents did to him shortly after he dropped his sons at school. It is with heavy hearts that we announced the passing of our beloved Silviero Vegas Gonzalez, a devoted father, a cherished friend, and kind soul who touched the lives of so many. End quote. At this point, we don't really
Starting point is 00:29:05 know many details surrounding the lead up to the shooting. We know that the FBI is assisting ICE in the investigation at the request of the DHS, but we haven't seen body cam footage or any other form of video evidence be released to the public by federal agencies. We do have two videos that have made the rounds online, which were taken by nearby surveillance cameras. So one of the videos shows two ICE agents at Gonzalez's car, one on the driver side, the other on the passenger side. And you can see Gonzalez put his car into reverse as these ice agents are talking to him. In fact, the agent on the passenger side almost like reaches his hand into the car to stop Gonzalez from reversing. But Gonzalez reverses anyway. And as he reverses,
Starting point is 00:29:53 the agent on the driver's side holds on to the side of the car. And the agent is still holding onto the car as Gonzalez backs up and eventually drives away. Once Gonzalez drives away, you can no longer see the ice agent in the video frame. So it's unclear how long he held onto the car and was dragged. However, a different surveillance video captures Gonzalez rounding a corner nearby. So we ended up taking a right-hand turn, at least what looks like a right-hand turn. And that video camera picks up the sound of two shots. Now, those two shots presumably came from the officer, the ice agent that was latched onto the car. So if we take... those facts and come to a conclusion, that would mean that the ice agent was on the car
Starting point is 00:30:42 from the point at which Gonzalez drove away until after he had rounded that corner. Now, again, we don't, we can't see the ice agent on, on this surveillance footage. So we don't know that with 100% certainty, but gathering the facts, that's what it seems like. We'll know more. Obviously, once federal agents come out with more information. We also know that this incident came just days into the administration's launch of Operation Midway Blitz. Operation Midway Blitz is an immigration enforcement effort, specifically in and around Chicago.
Starting point is 00:31:16 The DHS said in a statement that the operation was launched, quote, in honor of Katie Abraham, who was killed in a drunk driving hit-and-run car wreck caused by criminal illegal alien Julio Kukul Bull in Illinois. The statement goes on to say this ICE operation will target the criminal. criminal illegal aliens who flocked to Chicago and Illinois because they knew Governor Pritzker and his sanctuary policies would protect them and allow them to roam free on the streets. And quote, but as much as I've told you is as much as we know. So very few details are available to us as of now. As always, once we find out more, I will let you know.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Over the weekend, the Washington Post reported on documents circulating within the Department of Defense, which outline a proposal to activate a thousand members. of the Louisiana National Guard for deployment across the state. The document suggests that the Pentagon is considering a mission that would deploy National Guard soldiers to Louisiana's largest urban areas, including New Orleans and Baton Rouge. The drafted memo, which has not been signed as of now, is addressed to Attorney General Pam Bondi and Homeland Security Secretary Christine Ome from Secretary Pete Heggsett. It proposes that Guard troops would be deployed.
Starting point is 00:32:32 through September 30th, 2026, which would be a year from now, though a start date is not specified in the plan. The plan anticipates that Louisiana governor Jeff Landry would formally request the troops, which if that was the case, if the governor requested troops, that would allow the troops to deploy to the state with Title 32 status. We know that Governor Landry has spoken favorably about receiving federal support, telling reporters earlier this month that he would take them. But at this point, there has not been confirmation that Landry has submitted a formal request. And I've touched on the National Guard quite a few times in recent weeks, but just to be clear, Landry would have to submit that formal request for the National Guard to lawfully be deployed
Starting point is 00:33:16 to the state. If Landry did not request or did not approve the deployment to the state, then there are only three circumstances in which the federal government could send in National Guard troops. And so far in California, sending in the National Guard troops without. the governor's consent or request has been deemed to be unlawful. So, again, like, it really just hinges on whether Landry is going to submit that formal request or approve the deployment. Now, the stated purpose of the deployment is to provide support to local law enforcement in high crime areas.
Starting point is 00:33:54 The Guard's role would reportedly focus on logistics, communication, and drug enforcement support and the documents indicate that the troops would supplement and not replace local police, though it's a bit unclear exactly what that would entail. I mean, obviously, it means the troops would be assisting local law enforcement rather than completely overtaking their role in the city, but to what extent they would be assisting local law enforcement, that's what we don't know. Would the troops be partaking in patrols? Would they be carrying out arrests? Or would they just be simply serving in a support role behind the scenes? That those are kind of the things that on Cherub. The Pentagon's draft states that the deployment would take place under Title 32 of the
Starting point is 00:34:35 U.S. Code, which I've mentioned, and Title 32 does allow troops to make arrests and serve as a civilian police force so long as the governor gives permission. Supporters of this proposal argue that the National Guard can provide manpower that local departments lack, particularly in regions where drug trafficking and violent crime are pervasive. However, critics argue, and this includes Democratic lawmakers in the state, argue that the state is not currently facing an emergency that justifies militarizing our city streets. Some critics also claim that the deployment is politically motivated rather than a response to genuine community needs. So we'll see what happens here. Again, this is just what's being reported. The Washington Post says that these are documents that are
Starting point is 00:35:21 circulating within the Department of Defense. Some more stateside news. Last week, amid all the chaos, Missouri passed a new congressional map that will give the state one more Republican seat in the U.S. House. Now, this new map, of course, follows Texas's new congressional map, which has the intended effect of adding up to five Republican seats to the U.S. House. Missouri's new map is referred to as the Missouri first map, and it redraws the boundaries of Missouri's eight congressional districts. Most notably, it alters a district in Kansas City by dividing portions of the city and pairing them with more rural areas. areas to most likely achieve the result of one more Republican seat. The boundary line runs across what's called Truist Avenue, which is a longstanding dividing line in Kansas City. But opponents are arguing that this new boundary will reduce the voting power of minority communities. And we'll
Starting point is 00:36:15 talk about that more in a minute once we get to legalities. Supporters of the map, though, say it better reflects Missouri's political and geographical realities. Notably, not all Republican law in Missouri voted to approve this map. A few of the GOP lawmakers that voted against the bill included the state House Speaker Jonathan Patterson and State Representative Bryant Wolfen. Speaker Patterson told a news outlet in Kansas City that he did not support how the plan carved up one of the city's counties into districts, quote, represented by three different Congresspeople. End quote. State Representative Bryant Wolfen said the move was a partisan power grab that that runs a foul of conservative values. He said, quote, there's nothing conservative about using
Starting point is 00:36:58 our supermajority to grab more power. End quote. If this is signed by the governor, which it likely will be, the map is expected to shift Missouri's current six to two Republican majority in the U.S. House delegation to a likely seven to one split. Democrats have already filed a lawsuit challenging this map and have also discussed trying to build support for a citizen referendum, which would basically attempt to reject the map using a statewide vote of citizens. As for legality, and as we've talked about in the past, state legislatures are allowed to redraw congressional districts. However, the process typically happens once a decade following the census. Redrawing maps mid-decade is less common, but it's not necessarily prohibited, at least depending on the state. In Missouri,
Starting point is 00:37:49 it's not prohibited. And partisan gerrymandering is also generally up. held, which is redrawing district lines to favor one political party over the other. Gerrymandered maps are typically only struck down if they're unconstitutional or illegal. And this is under the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution or the Voting Rights Act. So per the Voting Rights Act, maps are not allowed to dilute the ability of minority voters to elect candidates of their choice. Per the equal protection clause of the Constitution, race cannot be the predominant factor. in redistricting. So now that Democrats have filed a lawsuit, it'll be up to the courts to decide whether this new map can stand or whether it must fail under one of those, whether it's a violation
Starting point is 00:38:34 of the Voting Rights Act or it's unconstitutional. At this point, the new map remains valid, of course, unless a court were to rule otherwise at some point down the road. Let's take our second and final break here. When we come back, we'll finish with a couple more stories. We'll do quick hitters. We'll also do a good news segment. And we will finish with critical thinking. welcome back last story of the day before we get to quick hitters good news and critical thinking this was actually meant to be a story on thursday but obviously other events kind of just took over the news cycle so a couple of weeks ago the bureau of labor statistics that's the federal agency that tracks jobs reported that the u.s economy actually added 911000 fewer jobs over the
Starting point is 00:39:16 past year than it originally reported and that's the biggest revision of its kind ever because of that last week, the BLS announced an internal investigation into how it collects and records its data. So let's break this down. Every month, the BLS releases a jobs report that shows how many jobs were gained or lost and in which industries. And they get these numbers by surveying more than 100,000 businesses and government offices across the country. That report also includes the unemployment rate, but that number comes from a different survey, which is one that looks at U.S. households instead. So on September 5th, the BLS released its jobs report for August. And it said that the economy added just 22,000 jobs that month, which was well below expectations of about 75,000. The report showed gains in health care, but losses in the federal government mining and oil and gas. So while health care added some jobs, those gains were almost completely canceled out by losses in these other industries. Now, here's where things get a little bit complicated. So the BLS doesn't just rely on its monthly service. It sort of double-checked its estimates against a much larger report called the quarterly Census of Employment and Wages.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Now, the quarterly census of employment and wages is basically a full count of payroll records collected through state unemployment systems. And because it's based on actual tax data, it is considered to be much more precise than the monthly surveys that the BLS collects. When the census report shows that the monthly survey estimates were off, the BLEs, the BELS were off, the BLS will go back and make revisions. And this is called a benchmark revision. Sometimes it's a revision downward, as it was this year. Other times, it's a revision upward. In this case, though, the downward revision was massive. The BLS had originally estimated that
Starting point is 00:41:06 from April 2024 through March 2025, the economy was adding an average of 147,000 jobs each month. However, the payroll records collected from the quarterly Census of Employment of Wages showed the real number was only 71,000 each month. Now, if we add that up, it means job growth was overstated by 911,000 jobs over the course of a year. If you remember, last September, the BLS made another huge revision. Last September, the revision was a downward revision of 818,000. In fact, That revision was the largest revision since 2009 until this one, of course. And just to put a number on 2009's downward revision, the total number of jobs in the economy was revised down that year, 2009, by 902,000.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So this year's revision actually broke that record by about 9,000. Now, because of this year's miscalculation and likely last year's miscalculation, the BLS announced last week that it's going to be conducting an internal investigation into how it's collecting and reporting data. Keep in mind that all of this is happening against a political backdrop, right? President Trump recently fired the BLS Commissioner after saying the agency was putting out rigged numbers to make him look bad. However, economists pushed back on that assertion.
Starting point is 00:42:29 They said that's not how the BLS works. The commissioner doesn't personally create the numbers and, you know, the agency just reports on the data that it has. So all that's happening at the same time. But the bottom line here is that the BLS significantly overstated job growth and it's now investigating why. All right, let's do some quick hitters. New York Governor Kathy Hokel has formally endorsed Zoran Mamdani in the New York City mayoral race. In her endorsement, Hokel praised Momdani's courage, urgency, and optimism, saying those qualities are what the city needs and its next
Starting point is 00:43:01 leader. She acknowledged that the two have disagreed on some issues like raising taxes, the NYPD, and Israel, but noted that they share priorities such as improving public safety, combating anti-Semitism, and expanding economic opportunity. Mamdani is running against incumbent mayor Eric Adams and former governor, Andrew Cuomo, both of whom are former Democrats but are now independence, or at least running as independence. Zoran Mamdani is running as the only Democrat in the race, so it's not too much of a surprise that Democratic Governor Hogle chose to endorse him.
Starting point is 00:43:35 In some other news, the DOJ has filed a $125 million lawsuit against Uber, alleging it has violated the Americans with Disabilities Act. The lawsuit claims Uber has routinely refused service to people with disabilities, charged cleaning services when service animals shed, and imposed cancellation fees on riders after drivers unlawfully denied service. Uber says it disagrees with the allegations and points out that it requires drivers to agree to its service animal policy, claims to enforce penalties for violations, and says it has invested in training, technology and reporting tools for riders to raise complaints. The DOJ's lawsuit seeks a court order to stop the discriminatory practices, force policy changes, mandate better training, and
Starting point is 00:44:21 require Uber to pay affected riders and civil penalties. The United States and China have reportedly reached a framework agreement intended to keep TikTok operating in the United States under revised ownership arrangements. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant announced the deal following trade discussions in Madrid, saying that although the commercial terms are not publicly disclosed, they have been, quote, agreed upon between private parties. And quote, a phone call between President Trump and China's President Xi is expected to finalize those details. Two men, aged 58 and 31, were arrested in Salt Lake City, Utah after authorities discovered an incendiary device placed under a vehicle belonging to KSTU, which is a local Fox 13 news affiliate. According to court records, the device, quote, had been lit, but failed to function as
Starting point is 00:45:12 designed. End quote. A search warrant at a home in Magna, Utah led to the discovery of additional items such as explosives, firearms, illegal narcotics, and fake weapons that were claimed by the suspects to be real. Photos and videos from the scene outside the home showed anti-Trump signs on the yard. The motive for policing the device has not yet been determined. However, both suspects. Their names are, and I'm sorry if I mispronounce these, Adib Nassir and Adil Justice Ahmed Nassir, were booked at Salt Lake County Jail on Sunday. And President Trump says that construction has begun on the new ballroom at the White House. While speaking with reporters on Friday, Trump pointed to the work vehicles on the south lawn and said, quote, right there, you see all
Starting point is 00:45:57 the trucks. They just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, end quote. Notably, in the original announcement, the White House said the ballroom would hold about 650 people, but since then, the president told NBC News that the plan has changed a bit, with it now expected to seat around 900. The president said, quote, we're making it a little bigger. It will be top of the line as good as it can get anywhere in the world, end quote. So it's unclear how big the ballroom will actually be, considering specific details on the layout design and location have not been released publicly. And I should say specific location. We know generally where it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:46:33 but also the project proposal has not yet been submitted to the National Capital Planning Commission. Okay. You all loved the good news segment at the end of Thursday's episode and requested that I incorporate more good news at the end of all of my episodes. I can't promise you all include a good news segment in every episode going forward, but I will make a conscious effort to include good news more often because I do agree that we could all benefit from hearing about the good things that are happening, not only in our country, but also around the world. For today, I had kind of a different idea. I've done this once in the past, and those of you that were around then really liked it. So what I did is I asked all of you on Instagram to share something good that's happened
Starting point is 00:47:13 to you in the last week or so. And I wanted to share some of those responses here so that we can all feel a little joy for the people who are part of this unbiased community. I received a ton of responses. So if you don't hear yours called out, it's not because it was bad or anything. It's just because I can't possibly relate all of them. I don't have everyone's name, so I'm just going to use their direct quotes and go down the line. My son was recognized in school for his good character. My son learned to walk. I went to the grocery store and there was a good, there was a food drive going on, so I got some food for it. All three of my kids came over for Sunday dinner. My biopsy was benign. I've seen a lot of people open to having conversations with the
Starting point is 00:47:57 other side. I signed two new clients this week. Someone said it's my birthday. Another person said, I got a job after looking for three months. We start our first and hopefully only fertility procedure today crossing our fingers. Witnessed a few of my patients making great progress in their recovery, proud of them. I finally got my dream job and I'm moving next week. I entered third trimester for baby number two. Church was packed like people were sitting along the back wall packed. I hatched chicks from eggs on my farm. We're getting a new puppy tomorrow. I made it through a major surgery and I'm feeling a little better for the first time today. My sister-in-law found out that her cancer hasn't spread. My family and I got tickets to see our favorite football team play. I got to
Starting point is 00:48:55 come home from college to see family. I went out with some hometown friends to wind down after acing my physics exam. I started my first coaching group for women of faith who want to heal after abuse or betrayal. My mom just finished chemo. My daughter celebrated her sixth soberversary. She is a meth addict and is now living an amazing life. Had a sweet little baby last month and hubby and I just moved into a larger apartment. Well, I don't know about you, but those made my week. I am so happy for all of you. And what I find to be so fascinating is that there are so many people tuning into this podcast that are at different stages in their life, going through different things, celebrating their own highs, struggling with their own lows. And I don't know,
Starting point is 00:49:44 it kind of just reminds me that you never know what someone else is going through. And while all of, these submissions that I just read are positive. We're all going through our own troubles. And I think that's why it's so important to treat each other with kindness and give each other a little grace on a daily basis. Politics isn't everything. I know I run a show all about politics, but truly politics is not even close to the meaning of life. Politics shouldn't dictate humanity. It's really not that serious. And at the end of the day, we're all humans navigating life and we should treat each other accordingly. So just please don't forget that. All right. Let's finish with some critical thinking for those that are new. This is a segment I try to incorporate at the end of
Starting point is 00:50:25 every episode. It's not meant to be too complex. It's not meant to stump you. It's just an exercise for our brains in a world where we are constantly told how and what to think. It's important to challenge our own opinions and to see the other side of an issue. So typically with this segment, we'll revisit a story from the episode and I'll ask you some questions that challenge how you feel about that particular story. But for today, I wanted to do something a little. little different. In the intro of last week's episode, I spoke a bit about the division that we're currently facing here in the United States and how I blame the mainstream media, politicians, and social media. And I made it a point to be clear about the fact that the perpetuation of
Starting point is 00:51:07 hate comes from both sides. And that is a fact. People want to argue about who perpetuates hate more, but that's really not the point. The point is that it comes from both sides. And I really didn't get too much pushback from my podcast listeners. I never really do. But on social media, people were pushing back saying it only comes from one side. The hate only comes from one side. And it's funny, like people on the right would say that the hate only comes from the left. People on the left say the hate only comes from the right. And it's easy to think that way when you sit in an echo chamber, but I wanted to give you some homework. I want you to do some research. You can spend as much time as you want researching, but I'm asking for a minimum of 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Spend a minimum of 10 minutes and find two examples of hateful rhetoric or actions from each side of the political spectrum, the left and the right. Most likely it's not going to take you very long to find them on the side you disagree with. And that's fine. But if that's the case, I want you to spend the majority of your time critiquing your own side. Analyze their words. Decipher what's hateful. And keep in mind, while you might agree with something that someone on your side says, it can also be hateful. So you have to be able to decipher that language. That's your homework. At least two examples of perpetuation of hate from both sides. And my intention with this assignment is not for you to surround yourself with negativity. Obviously, that's the last thing I want you to do.
Starting point is 00:52:35 But I think this is an important exercise because it teaches us how to see the hate that's coming from our own side. A lot of us are too quick to say, oh, it doesn't come from my side. It only comes from the other side. That's actually false. So my intention here is just to get you to see when it comes from your side as well. And I want you to be able to do identify it on both sides. That's what I have for you today. Do not forget about the newsletter going out tomorrow morning, which you can always subscribe to by clicking the newsletter link in the show notes of this episode. I hope you have a fantastic next couple of days. Thank you. so much for being here. I will talk to you on Thursday.

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