UNBIASED - Trump Looks to Reinstate 'Department of War,' Oura Ring's Partnership with DoD, ICE Enforcement to Ramp Up in Chicago, What We Know About the Hyundai Plant Raid, and More.

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

SUBSCRIBE TO JORDAN'S FREE NEWSLETTER. Get the facts, without the spin. UNBIASED offers a clear, impartial recap of US news, including politics, elections, legal news, and more. Hosted by lawyer Jordan Berman, each episode provides a recap of current political events plus breakdowns of complex concepts—like constitutional rights, recent Supreme Court rulings, and new legislation—in an easy-to-understand way. No personal opinions, just the facts you need to stay informed on the daily news that matters. If you miss how journalism used to be, you're in the right place. In today's episode: President Trump Signs Executive Order Allowing 'Department of War' as Secondary Title (1:30) Another Executive Order Allows 'State Sponsor of Wrongful Detention' for Countries that Wrongfully Detain US Nationals (6:28) What We Know About the Raid at the Hyundai-LG Battery Plant in Georgia (8:43) ICE Immigration Enforcement Operations to Ramp Up in Chicago. Is It Legal? (14:46) Oura Ring Announces Expanded Partnership with Dept. of Defense Raising Concerns from Consumers About Sharing Personal Data. Here's What We Know (20:00) Quick Hitters: Supreme Court Upholds California ICE Stops, Appeals Court Upholds Trump's $83M Defamation Judgment, Trial Starts for Man Accused of Attempting to Assassinate Trump, Many Winners in Saturday's Powerball Drawing (28:25) Critical Thinking Segment (32:35) SUBSCRIBE TO JORDAN'S FREE NEWSLETTER. Watch this episode on YouTube. Follow Jordan on Instagram and TikTok. All sources for this episode can be found here.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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On Friday, President Trump signed an executive order titled Restoring the United States Department of War, which reinstated the name Department of War as a secondary title for the Department of Defense. This is an important distinction. Basically, what this order is saying is that the name Department of War can be used in communications, ceremonial contexts, and non-statutory documents, non-legal documents, and that all executive departments and agencies are to accommodate the use of this secondary title. However, this order does not permanently change the name of the Department of Defense.

Congress would have to do that. We will talk about that more in a minute. But the order says that within 60 days, the Secretary of Defense must submit to the president a recommendation on the actions required to permanently change the name of the Department of Defense to Department of War. That recommendation is to include proposed legislative and executive actions necessary to permanently change the name. So to be clear, to be very clear, for the time being, the Department of Defense can call itself the Department of War in certain contexts. The Secretary of defense can call himself the Secretary of War in certain contexts, but officially and legally,

the titles of each are still the Department of Defense and the Secretary of Defense. So in legal and statutory contexts, these two must still be referred to by their official names, which are the Department of Defense and Secretary of Defense. And that's, of course, until Congress officially changes the name of the department. Now, before we get into why the department's name was changed. Let's quickly talk about the history of the department just for purposes of adding context. Congress established the Department of War in 1789 to oversee the Army, Navy, and Marine Corps. And it was the Department of War until 1947, which was more than 150 years after its creation, when President Truman signed what's called the National Security Act.

The National Security Act merged the Navy Air Force and War Departments into a single organization called the National Military Establishment. Interestingly, the abbreviation for National Military Establishment was NME, which Congress felt sounded too close to the word enemy. So two years later in 1949, the National Security Act was actually amended and the National Military Establishment was officially renamed the Department of Defense. defense. And that's why today, we know the department as the Department of Defense. It has remained unchanged since that time. As far as why the administration is wanting to change the name back to the

Department of War, we know from the text of the executive order that the purpose is to, quote, ensure peace through strength. The order reads in part, quote, the name Department of War more than the current Department of Defense ensures peace through strength as it demonstrates our ability and willingness to fight and win wars on behalf of our nation at a moment's notice, not just to defend. This name sharpens the department's focus on our own national interests and our adversaries' focus on our willingness and availability to wage war to secure what is ours. And quote, after signing the order, the president told reporters in the Oval Office, quote, I think it sends a message of victory. I think it sends really a message of strength.

were very strong, we're much stronger than anyone would really understand, end quote. Secretary Hegg Seth said the change reflects a broader cultural shift within the department telling Fox News, quote, we won World War I and we won World War II, not with the Department of Defense, but with a war department, with the Department of War. We've reestablished at the department, the warrior ethos, we want warriors, folks that understand how to exact lethality on the enemy. We don't want endless contingencies and just playing defense. We think words and names and titles matter. End quote. So again, it's important to point out that the president does not have the legal authority to actually rename the department officially,

right? And that's exactly why this order refers to the name change as a secondary title. To legally change the name, Congress would have to pass a law, which could happen, considering both chambers of Congress have introduced legislation to do so. The Department of War Restoration Act of 2025, if passed, would formally rename the department. That, of course, has to pass both chambers, which likely won't be difficult, but you never know. Speaking of executive orders, the president signed another order on Friday titled, Strengthening Efforts to Protect U.S. nationals from wrongful detention abroad. We're going to keep this one short. Basically, if another country wrongfully detains a U.S. national and doesn't release the U.S. national upon request by the United

States, the Secretary of State is to assess whether that foreign country meets certain criteria and then the Secretary of State is to use his discretion in designating that country as a state sponsor of wrongful detention. This also applies to groups that have control over a country but might not be considered a government entity. So think ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, et cetera. For that designation to be lifted, once it is given, the foreign country or entity has to either release the wrongfully detained individual, demonstrate policy or leadership changes, provide credible assurances against future wrongful detentions, or the designation can be lifted if the president directs termination. Now, you might be wondering, what does it

matter if a country or entity receives the state sponsor of wrongful detention designation? Why would they care? Well, per the order, the United States, if that designation is given, the United States can, A, impose sanctions, B, potentially withdraw foreign assistance, C, declare that country's citizens inadmissible in the United States, D, restrict the travel of U.S. citizens to that country, or E, restrict exports to that country. So the impact would be felt both financially and diplomatically by the countries that receive the designation. To give you a couple of real world examples in where we could see this order be applied, obviously we know Russia has wrongfully detained American citizens in the past, so it could be applied to Russia. Hamas, right? Hamas no

longer has custody of U.S. nationals, but if it ever were to hold a U.S. national hostage again, this order could apply to Gaza since Hamas exercises control of Gaza. So those are just a couple of real world examples of how this order could be applied in practice. Okay, moving on. Last week, more than 400 federal state and local law enforcement personnel conducted a raid at a Hyundai LG battery plant in a very small town known as Ellibel, Georgia. This operation is now known as Operation Low Voltage. So the raid resulted in the detention of roughly 475 workers, most of whom were South Korean nationals. According to a DOJ press release, quote, on September 4th, 2025, hundreds of federal

agents executed a federal search warrant at the HL Georgia Battery Company LLC in Ellabel, Georgia, searching for evidence related to the unlawful employment of illegal aliens in violation of federal law, end quote, a search warrant filed in the Southern District of Georgia specifically identified for individuals as, quote, targeted person. to be searched, end quote, and multiple agencies participated in this raid, including HSI, FBI, DEA, ICE, GSP, ATF, and others. Homeland Security Investigations, Special Agent in Charge, Stephen Shrank told reporters, quote, this was not an immigration operation where agents went into the premises,

rounded up folks, and put them on buses. This has been a multi-month criminal investigation where we have developed evidence and conducted interviews, gathered documents, presented that evidence to the court in order to obtain a judicial search warrant. End quote. So here's a little bit more about what we know. Elabel, Georgia is a very small, unincorporated town about 30 miles west of Savannah, Georgia. There's really nothing there besides a couple of churches, a couple of convenience stores,

and then this Hyundai LG battery plant, which is Hyundai's first fully electrified vehicle and battery manufacturing campus in the United States. The plant is actually not yet fully operational. It's still very much under construction. And Hyundai has said that the plant would eventually create about 8,500 jobs, but only a very small fraction of those have been fulfilled at this point, because again, the facility is not yet fully constructed. As far as what we know about the actual raid,

the press release says, quote, upon execution of the criminal search warrant, several people attempted to flee the location. For example, a handful of people ran into a sewage pond, located on the premises, agents used a boat to fish them out of the water. One of the individuals swam under the boat and tried to flip it over to no avail. These people were captured and identified as illegal workers. I said that those taken into custody included some who entered the country illegally, some who held expired visas, some who entered on a visa waiver that

prohibited them from working, and at least one lawful permanent resident who was held because of alleged prior firearm and drug offenses, which can jeopardize green card status. Of the roughly 475 individuals detained, we know that there were roughly 300 South Korea nationals. Another 23 were Mexican nationals, but we don't know who makes up the remaining 150. Per the Mexican consul general's office in Atlanta, most of the Mexican nationals detained signed voluntary releases to return to Mexico in the next few days. And we know that the South Korean government is facilitating the return of the South Korean nationals. On Sunday, the South Korean presidential chief of staff announced that negotiations with Washington for the release of the

detained workers had concluded that South Korean officials plan to charter a flight to repatriate them and that the South Korean government would, quote, review and improve the visa system and stay status of people traveling to the United States for investment projects. And quote, at the same time, the South Korean Foreign Ministry said it conveyed, quote, concerns and regret, end quote, to Washington. It dispatched diplomats to the state of Georgia to form an on-site team. And it warned that the rights of Korean nationals investing in U.S. projects must not be violated. So basically, just that we're all on the same page, what's been happening?

And we saw this happen during the Obama administration a lot, too. as well as during Trump's first administration. But the federal government will specifically target employers who are hiring illegal workers, meaning they're hiring individuals who do not have work authorization in the United States. That is a violation of federal law to hire those individuals. So the federal government goes to a judge and says, hey, we have probable cause that this person or these persons are breaking the law by hiring unauthorized workers. and therefore, we need a search warrant to search their premises and determine whether they're doing

what we think they're doing. If sufficient evidence is presented to the judge, the judge will sign off on a warrant and federal agents will go in and raid the factory or plant or whatever the employment site might be. So that's what happened here. One thing that makes this raid stand out is that it was the largest single site enforcement operation ever carried out by the DHS. Now, another thing that's a bit different when it comes to violations of federal law, the employers that are hiring these illegal employees don't necessarily get arrested for violating the law. In fact, the press release from the DOJ makes clear that this is an ongoing investigation. No charges have been filed, and all people are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. What typically happens instead is that

the unauthorized workers will be removed from the premises and in many cases deported to their home country, which is what happened here. But the employers typically don't get arrested or face charges. Okay, let's take a break here. When we come back, we'll discuss the ice expansion in Chicago, the ORA Ring Partnership, and more. The kids are back in school, summer vacations have come to an end. It's officially the start of cozy season, which means it's time to slide into some bombas. You've heard me talk about bombas before. They make incredibly cozy socks, but also slippers, t-shirts, and underwear. However, the socks are really special to me because my husband goes through socks like no one I've ever seen. I've

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and throughout Illinois and other states, making sure we're upholding our laws, but we do intend to add more resources to those operations. End quote. Nome's remarks came one day after President Trump posted to truth social, threatening to deploy the National Guard to Chicago if Illinois's governor, J.B. Pritzker, did not, quote, straighten it out.

fast, end quote, and that it's referring to Chicago's crime. Trump's post was also made on the same day that Chicago's mayor, Brandon Johnson, signed an executive order putting measures in place to limit local law enforcement's cooperation with federal troops, i.e. immigration enforcement. Naturally, all of these discussions have led people to wonder whether this is legal. And there are two things to keep in mind here. So immigration enforcement is different. from deploying the National Guard. We have to talk about them separately. Immigration enforcement

is entirely within the federal government's control, right? That means ICE can go into whatever cities it wants and lawfully enforce immigration law. And the key word there is lawfully, of course, ICE still has to abide by federal law and the Constitution, but it does have the authority to enforce federal immigration law nationwide. Neither Illinois's governor nor Chicago's mayor could tell ICE to leave or, you know, actively keep ice out of Chicago. What Chicago's mayor and Illinois's governor do have the authority to do is tell local police not to help ICE, which they have done. But they cannot prohibit ICE from doing its job. Deploying the National Guard, though, is a different story. And for those of you that have been

keeping up with the podcast, you know this. And I don't want to go too far into it because we have discussed it a lot lately. You can always go back and listen. in the past episodes and get caught up. But basically, the president can deploy the National Guard in certain situations. And that is because the National Guard is under the control of the state governor, not the president. So if a state's governor requests the National Guard, the president can send in the National Guard. If a state's governor doesn't necessarily request the National Guard but approves the deployment of the National Guard, the National Guard can go. Neither of those situations are true in Chicago. Illinois's governor has not and will not request deployment of the

National Guard, nor will he approve the deployment of the National Guard, right? So the only way the president can lawfully federalize National Guard troops and send them into Chicago is if, one, the president invokes the Insurrection Act, which he has not done, or two, one of the following three situations are present. There has been an invasion of the United States by a foreign nation, or there's a danger of invasion, there's been a rebellion against the federal government, or there's a danger of rebellion, or the president is unable to execute federal laws with regular military forces. Those are the only situations where the president can lawfully deploy and federalize the National Guard without invoking the Insurrection Act or getting

a governor's approval. Now, we know that a California judge just ruled that Trump's deployment of the National Guard to L.A. was unlawful. The administration had tried to argue that the ICE protests and riots were considered a rebellion against the federal government and therefore deployment was lawful. But the judge rejected that argument and said that while there were protests and riots, they didn't rise to the level of a rebellion against the government. So if the president tried to deploy the National Guard to Chicago under similar circumstances, whether it be to combat crime or to assist ICE in immigration enforcement, it would likely be deemed unlawful. That's not to say the president won't try because we saw him try in L.A. That's just to say that if he did, he would likely

get sued by Illinois, it would turn into another legal battle like it did in California. Now, the reason the situation is different in Washington, D.C. And the reason the deployment of the National Guard in D.C. is likely lawful is because that is the one place that the president has control over the National Guard. D.C. does not have a governor. It does not have statehood. Under the law, the National Guard is under the control of the president in Washington, D.C. So the situation in D.C. is not, you can't compare it to any other city in the United States. And just so we're very clear, this same discussion applies regardless of which city we're talking about. Chicago, L.A., Boston, New York City, Newark, San Diego. It doesn't matter. Any,

country in the United States, these same laws and rules apply. Lawful immigration enforcement by ICE is permissible. National Guard deployment is more nuanced. All right, let's move on. More than two and a half million people own an ORA ring. And a lot of those people are wondering what will happen to their personal data now that ORA has expanded its partnership with the Department of Defense. So let's talk about this. First, what is an ORA ring? An ORA ring. is a smart ring that works as a wearable wellness tracker. So it tracks things like sleep, activity, heart rate, body temperature, and it does this via various sensors in the ring that each detect different patterns within the body. The ring then sinks with the app via Bluetooth,

which users have to pay a monthly subscription fee for. And the app provides customized insights and recommendations based on the data that the ring collects. So as examples, the app might tell a user who didn't get as much REM sleep as they usually do to try to limit caffeine or alcohol intake. It might tell someone who's been inactive for a while to go for a little walk. It might notify a user who's had an elevated temperature that they might be getting sick. So it's things like that. Well, at the end of August, August 27th, to be exact, ORA announced an expanded partnership with the DOD. The CEO of the company said, quote, we're proud to expand manufacturing to the United States and are committed to empower

the Department of Defense with technology that prioritizes security and promotes readiness, resilience, and effectiveness to support service members and their missions. End quote. ORA's press release highlighted that one, the DOD is now ORA's largest enterprise client, and two, ORA will open a new manufacturing plant in Fort Worth, Texas. So that's the expansion, right? This new manufacturing plant. A few things to note here, and then I'll address the concerns from ORA ring users.

First, ORA has been partnered with the military since 2019. The partnership actually started after 17 sailors were killed in two separate collisions. Following those collisions, the Naval Health Research Center, or NHRC, launched the command readiness, endurance, and watchstanding program to advance fatigue research because those collisions were said to be caused by fatigue. As part of that effort, NHRC tapped ORA ring to track sleep. and certain other biometrics. ORA also works with active duty units tracking their data to enhance military performance.

ORA says it advances defense operations in four key areas, stress management and resilience training, fitness optimization with physical stress and focused recovery, fatigue risk management through scheduling optimization to prevent placing over-exerted personnel in safety critical roles and early illness detection to proactively alert individuals and command before illnesses spread. So ORA, again, has worked with the government for years, but this is what has people concerned. Orra's press release says in part, quote, underscoring its commitment to responsible data practices, ORA's enterprise platform will empower government personnel, including performance coaches and commanders, with individual and unit insights and unlocking.

targeted deployments enabled by Palantir Fed Starts IL5 ready hosting environments. End quote. Palantir is the big name here. So Palantir Technologies is a data and tech firm that's been working with multiple different federal agencies. Palantir's partnership with the government goes back years, but since Trump took office this past January, the role of Palantir in federal projects has increased. as examples. Palantir recently received more than $113 million in federal funds for new contracts

with the DHS and the Pentagon. It will potentially also work with the Social Security Administration and the IRS. And Palantir's data analysis product is currently being used by at least four federal agencies. Now on top of that, back in March, President Trump signed an executive order that called for sharing data across all federal agencies to quote, maximize government efficiency. And that led, that executive order combined with Palantir's involvement led to speculation about a national citizen database, which I have addressed in the past. I don't want to get into it now. Basically, critics worry that Palantir's expanded federal role combined with Trump's executive order on, you know, data sharing could give Palantir even more oversight of agency and

personal data. Notably, Palantir has denied being a surveillance database. But when ORA mentioned Palantir in their press release, some got worried. And in response, ORA's CEO posted a three-minute video attempting to ease consumers' concerns. I'm going to play that video for you because it'll be more effective than me just reiterating what he said. So here it is. Hi, everybody. I'm Tom Hale. I'm the CEO of ORA. And I have been watching this weekend's conversation online, with some real concern. I've seen a ton of misinformation and people are really upset. And I just want to acknowledge that and start with the most important thing first. ORA will never sell your data. We will never share your data without your consent or your authorization. If you want to

participate in a research study and you want to do that, great. We're going to provide you the tools to do that. If you want to put your data in Apple Health Kit or Google Health, we'll help you do that. But we're never going to do that for you. And we're never going to do anything that would be, I don't know, against your health. Look, the way to think about this is that your data is yours and yours always. That is our commitment to you is to protect your data and your health. And we stand firmly against unauthorized data sharing. We have always held this point of view and we will always continue to do so.

And we take it incredibly seriously. We'll want people to understand it well. So let me zoom back. I wrote it down, so I'm going to give you some perspective here. Separate from the services that we provide ORA members, we make ORA available to U.S. service members, men and women, and government employees via government-only enterprise solution. And to meet security for that government-only enterprise solution,

some of those programs require that we use the IL, impact level 5, IL-5, security environment. Now, Palantir's Fed Start provides that environment today, but they do not have access to any of your health data. That DOD enterprise solution is separate, completely separate from the ORA platform that our members use. And your personal data never touches any government system. And nobody from Palantir or the government has access to your data. Full stop. Let me just take a minute to talk about our privacy practices.

Our privacy practices and our policies have consistently been reviewed and audited by independent third parties such as Mozilla and UpGARP. And we undergo regular third party audits of our security and privacy practices as part of certifications. We are always working on additional compliance, things like multi-factor authentication so that you will have absolute confidence that your account. is secure and your data is secure. We are committed to innovating in the name of privacy and in the name of your security. And looking ahead, we continue to invest in the compliance programs that support that. Today, we are supported by the most stringent compliance in the world. That's GDPR and HIPAA.

So that's how we earn your trust. So that's what the CEO had to say. Just to round out this conversation and close any possible loops, what we know is that ORA is expanding its already existing partnership with the DOD by building a new manufacturing plan in Texas, but that according to ORA, this expansion has no effect at all on personal data from everyday ORA users. Military data flows through a completely separate platform from consumer data per ORA. Okay, so hopefully that clears things up for people. Now for some quick hitters. The Supreme Court has allowed

ICE to continue stopping individuals in California for questions based on criteria such as speaking Spanish or gathering at locations where day workers often gather. Basically, immigration advocates filed a lawsuit against the administration arguing that these kinds of stops violated the Fourth Amendment because ICE lacked what's called reasonable suspicion, which is constitutionally required to justify a stop. In July, a lower court had ordered the DHS to discontinue the practice if the stops were based largely on a person's apparent ethnicity, language, or their presence at a particular location, like a farm or a bus stop. However, today the Supreme Court disagreed. Notably, the Supreme Court did not offer an explanation with the order, but Justice Kavanaugh wrote

his own concurrence. That said the circumstances the agents were considering, quote, taken together can constitute at least reasonable suspicion of illegal presence in the United states. And quote, Justice Sotomayor wrote a dissent saying the order goes against the normal practice of the courts and allows the federal government to continue arresting people based on their appearance or job. An appeals court in New York upheld the $83 million defamation judgment against Donald Trump today, rejecting his claim of presidential immunity. The case stems from comments that Trump had made back in 2019 while he was president, accusing E. Jean Carroll of lying about her allegations that he sexually assaulted her in the 90s. A jury previously found

that Trump's remarks were defamatory and awarded her $83 million in damages. And then today, in a unanimous opinion, a three-judge panel on the Second Circuit Court of Appeals said the damages were reasonable given the extraordinary facts of the case. Jury selection began in the trial against Ryan Ruth, the man accused of attempting to assassinate President Trump at his Palm Beach golf club last year. Ruth has pleaded not guilty to federal counts of attempting to assassinate a major presidential candidate, assaulting a federal officer and multiple firearms violations. However, if he is convicted, he does potentially face a life sentence. Interestingly, Ruth is defending himself despite not being a lawyer, but he will have a court

appointed counsel on standby. A little bit of lottery news for you. I was keeping you aware when the jackpot was rising, so I feel as if it's my duty to let you know that there were two winners of the $1.8 billion powerball jackpot over the weekend. The two winning tickets were sold in Missouri and Texas, and the winners will have the option of taking an annuitized prize of $893.5 million or a lump sum payment of $410.3 million before taxes. Tickets winning $1 million dollars were sold in California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Texas, and West Virginia. There were also 232 tickets that won $50,000 prizes and 90 tickets that won $100,000 prizes.

So a lot of winners there. Now, I did want to note quickly before we move to critical thinking that I did have quite a few request to talk about the Tylenol autism alleged link. However, I am going to wait until we have the report from the HHS before we talk about it. Right now, we're just hearing rumblings that the HHS is going to make some announcement based on some report, but we don't have that report yet. The most detail that we have at this point is that people familiar with the matter have said that the report is likely to suggest as being among the potential causes of autism, low levels of the vitamin folate and Tylenol taken during pregnancy.

But that's really all we know at this point. So I just want to wait until we have that report before we really dive into it. They're saying we should have the report sometime this month, but we will see. All right, let's now finish with critical thinking. The critical thinking segment is not meant to be too complex. It's not meant to stump you. It's just supposed to be an exercise for our brain. It's important that we ask ourselves why we feel a certain way about an issue.

It's also important to try to familiarize ourselves with opposing viewpoints and arguments. So for today, let's revisit the Department of Defense name change. For those who support changing the name, consider that the department's responsibilities extend far beyond combat, right? Things like disaster response, peacekeeping, cybersecurity, space operations, counterterrorism, evacuation operations, the list goes on. With that in mind, do you think the term Department of War accurately or fully reflects its mission? And why or why not? For those that oppose the name change, I'm going to flip the perspective. Given the department's history of involvement in wars, do you believe Department of Defense is an accurate description? Or does it

potentially understate the department's role. Why or why not? And then finally, I'd like to challenge you, this is kind of like a fun challenge, to think of a name that comes closer to accurately depicting what the department does, something that's more accurate than the Department of Defense and more accurate than the Department of War. Let's see what you come up with. That's what I have for you today. Thank you so much for being here. As always, I hope you have a fantastic next few days. that are going out tomorrow. And I will talk to you on Thursday.