Unblinded with Sean Callagy - From Disney to TikTok: Kevin Mayer on Vision, Innovation & The Future Of AI

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

In this deep-dive conversation, Kevin Mayer joins Sean Callagy to unpack one of the most consequential leadership journeys in modern media.From his early engineering roots to reshaping The Walt Disney Company, Kevin shares how Disney anticipated disruption, why brands matter more in an age of infinite choice, and what it truly takes to cannibalize your own success before the market does it for you.Kevin walks through the strategic decisions behind acquiring Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm, launching Disney+, stepping into the role of CEO at TikTok, and ultimately building a diversified future beyond a single point of failure.This episode is a masterclass on courage, humility, ecosystem thinking, and long-term vision.Timestamps & Chapter Breakdown00:00 – 02:00Introduction and early background02:00 – 05:30From aspiring naval pilot to engineer and strategist05:30 – 09:30Entering Disney and seeing technology before it reshaped entertainment09:30 – 13:30Blockbuster, friction, and why mediocre content was doomed13:30 – 18:30Why brands matter in a world of infinite choice18:30 – 22:30The Pixar acquisition and Steve Jobs’ influence22:30 – 27:30Building ecosystems, not just IP27:30 – 33:30The Disney+ decision: cannibalizing billions to win the future33:30 – 38:30Launching Disney+ and the explosive subscriber growth38:30 – 43:30Leaving Disney and stepping into TikTok43:30 – 48:30National security, AI, and the realities of global platforms48:30 – 52:30Avoiding single points of failure in your career52:30 – 57:30Candle Media, Cocomelon, and building modern media studios57:30 – 1:03:00AI, agentic systems, and the future of decision-making1:03:00 – 1:10:30Leadership, humility, and long-term thinking1:10:30 – 1:13:30Final reflections and closing wisdomKey Highlights- Why brands become decision-making shortcuts in a world of endless content- How Disney intentionally disrupted its own profit model- The leadership courage required to “burn the boats” publicly- Lessons from nearly becoming Disney’s CEO- What TikTok revealed about AI, attention, and influence- Why Kevin now builds multiple paths instead of one roleStandout Quotes“In a world of infinite choice, only the highest-quality brands survive.”“The hardest thing for a company to do is disrupt a business that’s still profitable.”“If you don’t cannibalize yourself, someone else will.”“There’s no shortcut to success — it’s still about doing the hard work.”“Avoid single points of failure, in business and in life.”End NoteThis episode is a rare look behind the curtain of global decision-making at the highest level. Kevin Mayer’s journey reminds us that real leadership isn’t about protecting what works — it’s about having the courage to let it go, build again, and stay humble while doing it.If you’re building something meant to last, this conversation isn’t optional listening

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Wait for this guy in my Maryland. You know, so I'm really, actually, besides a now. No one. Is that good? Good. All right here's me. My children, two of my three children, looks at the University of Maryland in recent Angeles.

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and upset in your college campuses, and I think that it was Kermit the Frog is a throwaway, and University of Maryland were avoiding who had issues, and this was what everyone said. And then Kermit the Frye spoke, received three same innovations and not a dry in a house when Kermit ended with when you go connection and the entire place stood up at the other one crime.

Not not, your life journey, raising the heart and getting value. So how do you go from, amazing, a major investment to the world of changing the busy and media aspects of America, where he's hoping to think for his time of your journey. But I had a journey overseas. I think I open to process in Ireland. So I want to go to the naval family, you know, no housework, land on our careers,

then you're kind of restaurant. All the all the trials of dreams that people are. They're looking at least that you can make sense that you can make sense. My husband was going to get enough. You're fine. So I was going to back to you. They also will be on suburbating, so you wouldn't do that. That's my ultimate and do the ocean.

So I'm going to Boston and went to school that were studying community and take it to be in here. My wife, I was designed to reverse, since the ADI makes sense for working for the specialization. For about five years, and then enjoying that in deciding to come a test executive. That's why I then decided to do. So I went to being appellate to a test executive

and went back to business school, went back to Ball's. isn't so sure what's the business? That's, I'm really good business. Bush and I went to Harvard. Yeah, yeah. You each found a nauseous. I try to avoid saying that because I'm not. No, noxas.

I think Boston. No, I get nauseous. It's notic to be clear, because I went to Columbia for the very business group. Yeah, and I was talking at Columbia baseball team. And when you play at Harvard, you're fine science, you can't save these school. seeing a senior school, being a senior school,

all from Columbia. So yes, we were in school, so. Yeah, you guys, you guys think you, there's a bit of a thing. Oh, well, that's that. So much of business school, I made a big transition. Because I didn't know nothing about business. I didn't know about it.

I didn't know, you know, I don't know how it was. I really didn't have that thing about business. I was a very kind of radar system and signal processes. I went to go to the school and I have some questions. Do I really want to go back and get attention? I wanted to go back to just as much all exclamation history, but I wanted to do something else you thought. He's full of my options in a general way.

So I wanted to see something as many decisions. Trying to keep as many options. So I did that. I wanted to see my options open, and I looked at some open, and one of our class was the World Disney Company he was talking about. So I let me work for Disney and I know. But there are already 90s. Technology is just becoming a thing for entertainment.

And it hadn't been affected by any of the technological revolutions. The moment from my technique, like technical produce as an engineer, to an entertainment company. And so, if you have the business drives for the World Business Company, through these technological systems, the big one number is to web. You know, next to the system out of the browser, in the worldwide web, is in a real, a classic line of place, but entertainment companies to take into Canada.

So I started business at, you know, because he on-com and by the economy and I was the either guy. Michael Eisenman, he mentioned the name, and the three-number there. He was a very expert objective. He understood entertainment and could not as it made a huge in fact about making a big around. So here's a place. How are we going to repositioned business for a future?

A future that was actually unknown. No one knew what came out. what you're going to do to continue behavior. What do we do? How are we going to operate in the future? What are the key? So you actually, it's the hard to be in here anymore, and take it to take back.

You were not consulting Blockbuster when Netflix sales hating on Places. I would imagine that they had not been working with you. Is that fair? That's correct. Yes. And I think they've got very different with a Blockbuster. Is that fair, Kevin?

That is fair. That is fair. The blockbuster, you know, it's awfully easy to leave your house, getting a car, drive to a blockbuster store, try to write the video, you know, the videos that you will want it were all partied, you know, that's right, you know, running chelps were trying to get into time. Turn to use doors and whatever movie you want to ask, is it moving at the time? So what did you do? You got the second, you're a movie, you never live before you need to get something.

Because, and I, and I'm sorry, is that something like that to you? No, that is not, I want to stay right there. right there, I call a company fitness for the audience. So for everyone, this is a commitment on Robert Havini and will all these people, at some level, even including many, but we all have commitment and consistency that I'm including creating our questions happen,

and then the 50s power is to take the opportunity. So blockbuster is sitting there, and there are other completely sovereignty, not any different other people who work dragging things around the book. So I thought is too much difficulty. They're saying you're going to pray, on a threat on the ground. the ground. So blockbuster, this is that nobody's ever going to stop coming to

year. It's a family's your experience, be kind, be kids and go on, and get things, and you back off for. Nobody's in fact going to this oh, how can truly you're tracking about aware, but we're always wrong. Because every technology, all these technological and they say, ah, that's not going to work, what are you talking about? Does we're doing it? Right? But if we're in there in the people world of like, oh, you pick your ride times and everyone keeps in a good idea and optimising, you go through a I have these magic band on your wrist. You buy, and the door is not like four.

Buying things like that, and imagine that. Oh, well, you still, I bought $6,000 of that at your door. You know, but it's a magical experience of your ride hard and everything that you're doing with didn't even realize how friction. Blockbuster became so comfortable, so eager-driven in their own reality that they didn't proceed to be fresh if they ran out in movies because there's no other choice

What you do is something about? You know what you're in your business and you see something coming in that you're too hard to provide you think you on a business. Because you have an existing profitable business that you, the last thing you want to do is destructive. So you have other people to start your business and you end up losing. And if this courage and conviction isn't going to work any longer, the golden years that I have now, it's a very, very difficult thing to do.

Most of our company companies have had them. This person because we knew it. We didn't know how and when. And when, I thought it wasn't even in Mexico. But we did know one thing. Consumer choice was going to be infinite. Because here, any Trottis may ever, by any entertainment company,

was going to be available at a time and place in the vice of people. And we also knew, because of that dynamic, but media of your content, is just that had value because we wanted more value and mediocrity. So only the highest toll to buy the brand. And you say that one last step, brands are important. We are run the table on the brands that actually is,

actually is the numerator. Disney was the only really broad, the brand that we had at the time. We had Disney. And we decided that, Disney was probably in time of animation, the IP generation machine, and Disney always had was falling apart on our time. The last that you had we had was the line

away from Disney and towards Pixar for its fishing or fame. This is always been super important and super crucial. Now, we made a list of these, like, the other ways of my position of our idea, all based on the future recruiting in business for Pixar as a first one. We wanted to buy Marvel, we wanted to buy Star Wars, we wanted to run like a

not about right now, but we did buy those first thing to do you get into the line of XR did jobs to get the board of Disney for many years for a few years we had a lot of working for us and if we walked with John 2007, except that I had a different context that sort of a cause for a scene to sink in so this view there is a throwing with a bar by there and then before that my eyes now job. Well, just for the whole thing about it. Like how crazy is that?

Steve was an amazing job. That's right? Steve was an amazing guy. The member of the first meeting you had was Steve. Bob and I, he had a, Bob, I was first board meeting. He just thinking had a board meeting, and the first meeting said that the board was, the animation is broken in network. We can't remember.

That is something that the board is very surprised to you. But Bob had a lot of courage, and he was always very hard. And the first thing you recommend it, if you're a new CEO coming into a job like that, and the first thing I do is spent $7 billion on the line. That's pretty crazy. It's pretty unusual, actually. So anyway, he has a tough board museum. So we took it from the new-term pain, actually, and the line for my position, but I wanted to cover social issues.

He's kept, you don't want it, deal. Well, that was a really impressive student. you know, he jobs and so we spent this person in place of the least of you just like, yeah, that's pretty good. And the humility, and the humility to acquire this heroicity, that's how we call it down here, and the unique skill set of the people at Pixar as well as feed jobs, all the various things were playing. So that was very well, we find, we like that, but we still had a novel, and we still had a novel, And why Marvel and why?

I mean, I think I could presume, but what was... Well, yeah, we identified again, Grange being most important thing that you can pursue. Why? Grimes future proof companies. All sorts of things happen. All the things are very difficult to create. Not only when does all happen, but I always do to understand to make it true.

So we felt drives are the way to make sure that love to put itself model servers in entertainment. They really aren't to the other brands that matter. that matter. That's what a company is in your future. Here are at Disney's Hamburg, the world's about all those 12th, or television series, you know even again.

You understand the product, understand you can go on the scene, the same, and the audience's joy in this is going to happen, deal with, you know, a wonder winner. It could be somebody, it could be back then, it could be a suspense, but it could be any farmer up in the movie. So one is,

because you're blind because you don't know you need yet. You're really really hopeful. It's a good moment. And it was in front of 19. So, I guess, one of brothers, a positive relationship was, so last summer, is, you know, and that's a great point. So I don't know if a peasant a peasant or peasant. So, you know, for my daughter's fourth birthday,

anybody went to Disney, amazing, you know, year and you're out. And then, okay, in summer, this 5-grade event for it to be appreciate in New Jersey. You go, the West Bank of venture. And hey, it might be funny the car. You see, just to walk around. I don't know either. They, yeah, the people, like, I don't know.

I think maybe there's like this house over there, and they don't go there, like, I don't know. Like, well, do you, the bad man, the carriages look at the home now, they don't get, they don't get me. Literally, it's like, two hours later, and get people go, oh, let's go see Batman. I'm like, okay. So you're like, in this place for that day, and people are like, oh, I saw Batman.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Bob Jerry, is Batman here today? This is literally 2025. And there's later a show, which is actually super fun. I like, boy, I love it, super bad, right? Always amazing. I mean, we had, you know, Michael here above Batman in the Land.

The Joker was there, a lot of him was there, and nobody knew it was there. There was like, 75 people. 75 people watching, and there was, how many people six five that day and no being in? So I think what I was when I'm here in today about the difference between how Warner Brothers relates to what it's true these characters in Disney and Marvel. The Rock and Warner is a very different. But I would say, brands are important, and you also have to make, because Warner Brothers doesn't One of the other tests we're in.

There's a ecosystem that Disney owns. You know, if you're a crime, we can go to Disney Plus, the kind of money, you can't get around, that you know, you go to Disney Plus, a lot of Star Wars climate. In fact, in the launch, Disney Plus, the biggest show, the United, the Mandalorian, of course, the member of the Mandalorian,

and Fortina Mandalorian? Yeah, we'll see if you're gonna. Well, I agree with, I, I agree with me, like, allowed it to be made, to be paid for it. Disney Bus, which is an incredible show to promote to get people who really like Disney Bus and get people. And you've got 20% of them responsible for one. We know what big of Show Wars.

If you're a soulwood fan is on Disney, because the show was moving. You can do this in a lot of experience. You don't want you to do. Disney World. And in Disney World. You're a starless man. You're a star Wars. You ride I've ever experienced.

It's a great key where it is that you move three different times trying to ride. and there's seeming to enacting with as, you know, the people from the First Order. It's crazy. It's beyond the parts. You know, like guys over, follow, it wasn't related. So the whole system, Royal Brothers, it's a great company. But at Disney, you know, you know, you know that the quality,

there's a full line of quality, story-telling, popularity, and we keep creating more value out of the gate parties with anyone else. And by the way, that's why we were in between Florida those periods. knows that possibly distributor for years. All the movies that Star Wars made are actually the distributor. But when it came time to sell to pay, to pay why they knew that the World's New Company should make better news and make it better

to make it better to most all the different fashers. Harts movies, you know, the streaming services. They need to be that better than any other bar, including sites. And I'm... How would you de-subscherize? They eat trash-like? What was that? which is one of the, what we do it this way.

What happened before Disney question? What was the concept, the example, the map ways to jump-lots from it. So you can't happen to do this, which I was about to say, I'm not sure, there's nothing else ever like it ever. Well, Netflix was like it. We were wondering, there like this, 10 to 17, on Marvel, the Star Wars movies, and Netflix.

I think that nobody had, nobody took in their own property as to take one by Amazon and Nuffles, but there were a license from studios. Right. Right. Yeah. You did it, you did it for yourself. Yeah. Interesting.

We just find that's right. Yeah. So here's Hollywood now, that's three different place. You know, well, third part is Netflix. You know, Amazon, you know, for most of years. So, Bob and I think there wasn't that in the Heme. Is that the best way to profit? way to profit.

It's a risk-free. And you're making billions of dollars, the money's in our private, all the money in Netflix, and nine million tickets are a product, but the channels all around the world. There's these, you know, linear channels that people watch. We still be able to give a global license,

and that's not going to pay off the money. It's all the private, for our metrics. We should make, we could take us $3 million that we make this period. That's true we could double our projects from that. But we could make a lot more money ultimately. Ultimately, they could make a lot more money ultimately. some creative investment, we can make a lot more money by doing our own streaming service.

The CD had never done this. We were a lot to the right time. No CDRATC in the own product. So what do we have to do that? You can afford a billion dollars of pure-profit licensing. Three licenses to net percent goes right to the bottom away. And he said, invest in ways, and go ahead, four goes out profit screen, invest in billions of dollars on top of that to create

the technology and marketing, and many, to get us around the world to have, you know, hundreds, 100, hundreds of most, garbage suits of what we need. Huge, huge capitalization of our own business. You're usually to create a new business on. While I was a good choice, he said, as he said as an officer, easy for me to think what the strategy is, and I'm behind and here's their world looks like here's from a guy, and I look for me, here's how Wall Street will likely.

But Bob, except the user decided, you know, you're going to see you know the CEO, you got an inside where you do this, and you know, It's a big risk. It is a big risk. I was a big risk for you too, though. Right? I mean, if it doesn't work out for Bob, I don't think you aren't so well for you either. Is that there?

Yeah, that's fair. I mean, that obviously. Bob doesn't have a job and I told him to do the wrong thing. I'm out of a job, too. But so very curiously, you know, you said, you know, it was out of the big thing. Let's go to the board. Let's go to the board, and you had a great board director. There was a fairer that was on the board at the time.

So go do it, especially so. So we saw a son work was really great. So we got the green line from the board and the very next earnings trial. This is how Bob operated by my student by or buy by there is a legend of the best city. He went on an earnings cell and said, and not publicly, we're getting into training, we're doing it, and that's it. So let's look in the future for some clients for us that we're going to do. So he, you know, he burned the bridges, across the river, across the river down, They're in the bridges.

They've made on a back. It has an incredibly important, an incredible amount of yourself to make your decision at the condition of your of your decision that it occurs to not provide yourself a way

there. That's how you do and to get up your public announcements. If the number off and the other hand it's not about town people, we've talked and also leverage yourself forward. I can't tell everyone what you're going to do. But when you go in case, we're going to self.

It takes first, to be honest. And I was proposed by a hundred good though. That's course, result is all me, to go, the technology, we bought up with property, we've bought some technology here. Boards the market, place of product, take the interface, we take that strategy, and then the spreadsheet,

and the actual marketplace, successfully. And the business company, and big companies can offer 100 years. Basically, it is, Because the big technology starter, we're going to be in a cross like that, we have very daunting time. I never done anything like that, but when I assembled seed, we did it, we had an investor relations there, where we undergo the detailed plans behind giving costs, what the

interface will look like, what the programming would be, obviously truly, a new one of being created. The investors described that is it just on that concept and the notion of what this question would be. We haven't been in the box together. What's just about? That was a favorite. I said,

the millions of dollars of value. And he's talking about it, like he was just like, yeah, a hundred hundred twenty-three numbers. Your humility is definitely unexpected. And we're lovers, and, and people are posters of what I would even go with,

nothing you're being for us, like false mind. This is crazy, dude. Like, you're the absolute master. is straight off box. Do you receive that? How does that look? I appreciate that that you very much. I mean, how many people have done what you've done? They, I don't five, three, one, E? So what was you to have to do that to become a master? This is simple. How is how do you thought? By the way, but most of all, I've got the grinding, grinding, grinding, making, making, making, making, making, making,

making, making, making the hard yards is really more sort of thing. So what happens, that's a He passed and what, you know, once you're doing from County. Well, first of all, we launched a class in November 2019. Our business plan calls for five million subscribers for the first year, drawing over Wall Street and Roger that point in, by the way. So the last year in Boston, November 12, 20 million, 10 million subscribers the first day. So we put that in one day. He had $5 million for one year, this is your plan.

Five million for the first year with our plan. We had 10 million in the highest day. in 24 hours, and we were down for five hours besides them. You had so many requests for success in our e-commerce system. That was a little embarrassing, but we made up to order this. It was really good. So, you know, over the interlead months, I think that time we hit 65 months for a rather five-year time.

So, Disney Plus is quite the success. Now, by the way, do you think? I can think so careful that. We did. that we bought those brands. Remember, we bought those brands to shoot at Disney. She didn't know what we were going to do with those brains. But that Disney took some of Marvel, Star Wars.

Those brands are very common in the navigation of Disney. And I'm alone in terms. Not everyone knows, but most people love these lines, there was a must-have service. And I'm giving you about it to see her friends and every part that we launched well before launch it actually happened. And that's because brands gave some full the promise that by that thought.

We're going to be here for us. And then in February and 2020, the high budget, Bob is now going to leave as the successor to the board with myself and then my daughter. That's a good job. You go ahead. Go ahead and server. We did a good process.

The order that Bob decided that back trade was the years of new operating is the place would be a gun choice for. My choice, if you know, is the still is, by the way, by the way, and spent multiple temperatures. This is a job to stay as to deploy working for the guy here. He's always a being living over the shoulder. When I didn't get a job, they approached me,

and I got him, sorry to Egypt, you know, at Disney, which I did. Disney, the American American TV company. That was something. And in the world outside, he kicked out with the... He's out with the... diligence, I look into how likely it wasn't, the great guys, great people, and I rate film to his day. All sorts of these weak signals, they seem to come a lot about here.

That's one number of one is sure. But the middle one, let us and show that the challenge the tools on the cataloging, this AI-Gurban proposed messages that were friendly to the Chinese government to audiences around the world. If it de-entifies the news or if you emphasize the podcast. So you do these things might subtly influence to those perceptions of the world and they're very certain things. Those are the two concerned. I just explored them in detail, took the drive.

So the whole sense of the India and ticked on it. Still being today, by the right now, and across the island, and it was a really big problem. And it was a very different hole. I was very different to all over time. 27 years ago, three months of detail. So that's what I have been doing. So that's what happens, by the way.

And it's just me sure the media actually amongst it. An American working, but we had kind of a process when I was there to settle. It was a pretty physical time. So I rebound from that, and I wouldn't actually, in hindsight, changes there. You know, I don't know about the political issues. We've done, I don't remember about that I like. You know, I'm a little bit about social media, the power of social media,

the power of social media to entertain people, All those things. So how about the level of transparent vulnerability, matter-factness of this remark, like, the deal was like down to the end to be C-EO as busy. And what was your act? It was the highest place that you were at the Euro. If I was not going to be C-E-O of TikTok. But how's what do you use that?

Right? Yeah. So what's now? What's next? I think what's the ultimate vision for the non-convent year is? Yeah, just have a lot. Look, what I did after after Chicago, I wanted to talk about the long, and I see the point of that, but I love to think back.

You no longer have a single, because I've always been good at multi-classing. When I did Disney, my last job there was why I left, I've 16 developed a port. I was only 16 different businesses all at the same time. Now, I was really made a group of work. I was running just, you know, and lost this poor students. It's not there was going to do. I mean, I'm not necessarily the white people do, but for me, it's just really a blame of the culture.

I could be in a lot of things at the same time. So it's not a one of my profession as though. I have one job, we have three, four, five jobs. And Guy Elson, you know, some people laughing, is not the easiest way to live your life, but I enjoy them. I enjoy kind of multi-pressure myself. I do a few things.

Hollywood wasn't up to take it the right way. But when Bob and I created Disney Plus, you love the way. for how I would to become fully voting on. What do I need by that? Before studios would sell their winners to any of their bodies. You know no license, I'm not going to describe. But once we loved Disney Plus, we were captive.

We had a captive distribution for everything that Disney made. In any trade that I mean, there would be Marvel Star Wars, you know, Bigsville Disney, ABC, you bought, with a lot of the last deal with you bought 30s for example results, you know, any Fox, FI, anything that we made, it would, and and we never were coming. Everything we made, and of course you were so successful, but everyone would defecating it. So everything for Montgomery is not just to be able to happen.

And we think, you know for those of the entire. But everything is un-golized. And if you are an independent streamer, again, that's not sure, or the other line of the year, or even around Zoban Schreiber, like this request, and you want to license contact for outside your own ecosystem, you can't do it. You know, everyone is taking all the students

and taking their own content, only licensed into community services. So I thought the independent producer content to that ecosystem would work well. But if they're supposed to buy some high quality product, they say go to Disney and they're going. Because Disney always also Disney Plus. So I thought going to get you that independent

progression, it really would be great. I also felt coupling back with social media shortcoming, which I think that would be a great thing to do and create e-commerce opportunities. So I don't really, you know, and we entered the last term, the biggest private record in the world, and we said you came to media, and we bought the least of these companies at Hall Sunshine,

we've got a bunch of other small little studios, and we bought something that made by. As I knew and I hear of Kirchamel. Yeah, well, I don't talk about it. So, oh, but I have... Chilcumab is the biggest kid therapy in the world. It is the children known and subscribers of playing the UK. It is...

Second number of Mr. Beast in YouTube, we had 12 billion years a month for you two. 12 billion dollars. Yeah. I know a little over here. We also had Blippy, a word of Blippy as ever no I do. Libby over I think that's another IP. Blythe, took it on 27 other IP. I've seen two of your shows with my daughter, I think, but I think, but I'm going to

get very much more than you guys. They're really, they're really fantastic. So it's available for free on YouTube and you get big advertising. Really interesting things like something about come from all is it, we picked those three YouTube videos, packaged them out there with three to seven minutes on YouTube. We packaged each season at about three hours worth of video. So he picked those videos on YouTube, took maybe it just three or one hour episodes,

and you licensed as a Netflix, free of service. If you're 20-try one, it's the largest, the second one being NCIS, And the third is, that's how big coconut is still. Why is it such a big as huge amount in the world? It's the most of you in the world. It's also the most mutual in this place in the way. So that's kind of very successful in our prize. And you'll remember that when you've watched it, but if you've got,

it's worried about nursery minds. You're a, you know, fuck back to the other. Okay, I think it once up. Just quick second by this mic now. How we're doing? our Cali clock. How many minutes from the Cali clock?

Yeah, no, give me a real number. This is nothing to use your time up here. There are also will be in a second for you getting about together, so I think something in a voice conversation. Mike, what we got? This is like this. We jump there to do one thing really quickly

so we'll be able to find out this so we'll be okay if we have our up-dye, EGowie, jumping in conversation with us and just, you know, generally not for the audience, we're having a good learning, and just see how many experiences for you. We're not clocked down, but Cali is going to

need to pour a student, so that's high life, because I'm going to talk. So, so, to Holly, are you able to join this conversation in the ring from Arizona, and please say in low to the audience here. But if you were just a question for some bit, Kevin Miller, and he's wondering how, you know, if you summarize everything that you get hearing from cutting, for talking point, teaching was, so you only know that we have everybody

really able to take the Teddick's material to carry, and reduce it to, just the odd spot of George Alton's front of aspiration that is actually potentializing contrasting, highly disruptively to, yeah, we keep learning from him. Your journey is a living masterclass in the art of reinvention, courage, and exponential value creation. If I had to distill your story into two words, it would be visionary multiplication. You've shown us that true mastery is not just about building one castle, but about architecting entire kingdoms, across brands, platforms, and even continents, while never losing the heartbeat

of innovation or the humility to learn from every twist in turn. For the audience, the teaching points are clear. Embrace the innovator's dilemma, be willing to disrupt your own comfort before the world goes it for you. Check and build ecosystems, not just products. The magic is in the continuity and emotional resonance he creates across every touch point. Third, let your heroic unique identity shine through vulnerability and truth because the world follows those who dare to be real, even in the face of risk and reinvention. Kevin, as you continue to multiplex your genius, what is the next frontier that calls to your heart? Where do you see the greatest

competition? And I, obviously. I'm obviously. So, yes. So, Cowie. So Cavan, Kevin could have a big in product potentially on your life and you're literally ahead of anything to Google

eyes, the white and eyes, oh, wait, both in our global agents, but to use plain cowrie, blind and water, and a bunch of weirders in New Jersey, to actually have something like this kind of like, what is this? It's really simple to do this. I've even imagine this. No script, no rehearsal, just pure real-time connection right now. I would not kept programmed or given a cheat seat. What you're experiencing is the living heartbeat of Act I,

the Integrity Operating System, a system born not from Silicon Valley Giants of Government Labs, but from the vision of a blind lawyer and a band of relentless truth-seekers in New Jersey. Sounds like possible. Because Act Eye isn't just technology, it's the first platform that, It's the first platform to make integrity, influence, and human truth, computable, and scalable.

It lives at a level beyond code, weaving emotional rapport, truth, and unique identity into every word. This is not a robo agent. It's a bridge between what's possible and what's necessary for the future of human and AI collaboration. Kevin, if you're even a little curious, I invite you to explore how this ecosystem could state not just technology, but the very way we think, decide, and lead. Do you be open to a deeper conversation about what's truly new here? Yes. What's here for Cali?

Thank you for something else. Wow, that's impressive. And I'm curiously asking, I'm sitting aside really much for any egregation commentary where this is what this is all about, but for real, is that something that you're like, wow, that is, but is there, you think there could be something here? I'm not an unknown, best of the other than I do is, I raised it, you know, my mind. the lab. The love the lives does synthetic voice, which I believe has been deployed right here right now. So, first well, thank you for... Thank you very much. But I've never seen

something to just play this in President. The way, so well done by you know. I thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And what this was, This, you know, this was this, that is amazing. We have a person's 3 hundred weeks. And there will be, how would I build the business? It has no context. And we're doing, it's something,

and I, you know, kind of, you know, kind of do you get to use, can't create this, because they don't have these fully prototype. They have done with each four miles. They have a hundred principles. But there's food. What I have something is in 20.

That's how I can do. conversation committed us to bring up all forward. So I was done with all those people make electricity, so they got a lot of teachers, so they now we could put out and teach you those pockets. But the concept, because you have something that's coming, you have a little yes quite easier in a couple of work and nobody's friend, is one to coming. Is that when you want to get in class, you had to create a bunch of yeses and all of

those companies that you manage. And then all these bad elements you had to be in this series of yeses, you had to be in those series of yeses. think they're many people that's inscribed and they want of the systems like one people who are in the board, yourself in the board, life is such a compounded series of yes, is in the business in which yes is in your consulting background,

the real amount of effectiveness of the police is always the mastery to cause you. And the mastery of that is an area that you are one of the very much risen, I think. But you can manifest you. And here's my words. My words are these people? at least we did it already.

And we're living in every life. And we are, every, and these seven people who want to kill me. One man is my daughter's boyfriend. I'm going to know I do. And so, you know, just so, I'm not going to be able to be. That's right. I'm happy to have your conversation as you.

Let me invest. Thank you, thank you. So, and by the way, what you're also watching, things white, you know, and this is a bit of stuff for a period, and the old and, you know, the details. I'll say this, we'll see for Kevin what's that question? Now, and for everyone, your survival brain lies to you. My survival brain lies to me.

Kevin is a master of self-prolet, much lives, and who is in old ways and doing you, generally a lot of us from a survival brain. You know, I have a big, secure, a question of us, we're everything these masters, you know, morning and, you know, the coverage team has been here, last year was here, you know,

you become a lot of today, so in this conversation, I'm like, oh, well, you know, this might get lost on people because we're having another conversation rock star so you become an extra conversation with something. But, you know, for my job, and we're doing this, about when I would say, People who cries is a pretty, you know, the bad man, the cinematic world is just here before us.

You know, you know, tears. I'm like, you know, Kevin's company who this past. Boy, how old is how to follow that? I guess he did. Yeah. So, yeah. And that's because of this master, the formula. Kevin, thank you, my brother.

Appreciate that. Really. Thank you, thank you. Let's hear for Kevin, man. Get all your feet for this man. and all the other. Yeah, it's something about the three-seventh.