Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #100 | SAMSON MOEAKIOLA | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ
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what's happening you bad motherfuckers uncle Joey here welcome to Uncle Joey's
joint Wednesday the 22nd of September I'm fucking excited today for the last two
years I started working on the many Saints in Newark in March or April of
2019 and here we are September 22nd of 2021 and the movie gets released tonight
I'm very fucking excited what doesn't get released tonight's the premiere the
releases next Friday October 1st I cannot tell you how fucking relieved I am I
just want this to be over with I want to watch the movie with the people I
shot it with most importantly with my wife a few of my friends bought tickets
I you know I was against it but a few of my friends paid all the dough for
tickets they could have just waited and saw the movie for 1250 you know but they
want to be around and hobnob with people whatever I'm excited I thought about
the work I put in to get this this was a 23 year journey for me concluding with
this movie I took this movie and I was so proud of doing it that I ended up
moving to fucking Jersey I was so proud you know I was very proud of me for what
I had done you know today's podcast the guest is Samson Mokoleke Lee I don't
know what his last name is he's from fucking Samoa or he's Hawaiian whatever
he's a great kid you know everybody always says to me you know Joey thank
you for doing what you do you inspire us and stuff and I never get the chance to
return that favor you know to people you know like to say to you believe it or
not you inspired me by putting that video up or whatever when I first got
to many Saints in Newark the first couple days you know there's always a
doubt when you're in a project for the first couple days is a doubt until you
get into the rhythm I had to get into David Chase's shooting style and into his
mental psyche to understand what was going on you know well and I wasn't
struggling or anything to find it I just went on the set and I didn't really
know you don't know you know Mike said something to me today about he was
thinking about putting a video up and he goes I just didn't know you know you
just don't know you know how to do things so sometimes there's somebody there
you know when you go to something like you ever go have surgery or something
you go to a hospital and while you're sitting there you're a little fucking
scared you're kind of like out of your comfort zone but you start talking to
somebody and that person tells you like I've done it before it's fine and
also and you feel a lot better that's what I'm saying like sometimes there's
always somebody there to ease your anxiety when I first got on this film I
knew John Burntall and I knew a couple of the guys you know lightly from
different projects but I didn't really know anybody you know I didn't know
Alessandro I didn't know Corey and I didn't know Samson and Samson was just a
young kid he was there to play big pussy but his enthusiasm his eyes you know his
work ethic inspired me like I went back to the hotel room after like the second
day I had worked with him and I'm like fuck I got to pick up the pace a little
bit you know I'm saying these fucking kids are savages which is good it wasn't
that I was doing bad at all or I wouldn't know what I was doing I just
you everybody needs that little push once in a while you know it's like when
you open up a fucking jar that stuck like the other day you got pickles or
something you try to fucking open it and it don't open and all of a sudden I go
to like my grandmother and my grandma was like and she takes it right off
sometimes you never know who could do that you know and like you like Graham
you're strong no she just held it right or whatever I didn't know what I was
doing you know I knew what I was doing but I was kind of like out of it it was
the first two days three days on the set and just watching Samson his
enthusiasm was fucking contagious and I could tell his enthusiasm was rolling
over on other people you know because we were all talking in between scenes and
stuff and he was just a great kid and the thing that made it more special was
how young he was like you want to go up to him and go do you really want to
fucking get into this shit right now you know you should be on chasing fucking
skirts but you know what this is great this is great this is what you do I
wish I would have started acting at 21 I wish I would have started half the
things I started at fucking 18 or 15 but I was too busy fucking snorting coke
and you know jumping up and down and thinking I was cool you know now I'll
know for the next time when I fucking make a comeback I don't know I'll probably
come back as a fucking lizard or some shit and won't let me do the fucking
opportunities I want to do but it's funny man being an actor like well I was
talking to Samson on the interview I was thinking about a story I'm gonna tell
you guys how fucking fired up I was in 2003 like I really wanted to do this I
really wanted to succeed it wasn't money it wasn't that I wanted to hang out
with boats with bitches and you know you know girls gone wild and that that's
not what if you know anything about me that's not who I am I didn't want to go
to a bar I didn't want to you know I that's not what I wanted I just wanted
to find a little bit of success with something when I say success I mean
something that makes you happy something that makes you proud I've never
been proud of anything in my life I quit basketball my mother died I quit
high school I quit everything I started I quit this was the only thing I fucking
stuck with and I stuck with it because I loved it and there was a way for me to
contribute back to society the let society know I was healed I wasn't a
piece of shit junkie anymore and I wasn't a fucking thief I wanted to succeed
I wanted to see my name on the fucking side of the credits again it wasn't to
be a millionaire or you know have a boat or to have a butler or to tell people
what to do that was never my intentions it was just to succeed at something just
one fucking time you know so for me Robert De Niro was my everything you
know today he's a shell of what he was but Robert De Niro was everything when I
was coming up you know De Niro Pacino you know before that it was Steve
McQueen there was all those guys so my first big break honestly was Robert
De Niro's analyze that again it's not an Academy Award winner who gives a fuck I
pulled it off that's all that matters that I auditioned I read nobody gave me
dick and I did it I did it nobody else you know that takes a certain type of
pride I never used to sit back and smell the fucking roses but now I am now I'm
seeing what Catherine Narducci said you know people change you you talk to
different people it heightens your intelligence sometimes it heightens your
way of thinking you know but I always had that sense that you know yeah it's
not an Academy Award winner but it's a movie you know how hard that is you know
how hard the process was for me to keep it together enough to go in there focus
and fucking go in front of fucking somebody not be nervous that that's a
lot of fucking steps there's a lot of fucking moves there's a lot of different
pieces in auditioning but you do it and you fucking and this is what we do but
I still remember getting analyzed this and my scene was with Anthony Lampakle
who was at the time was a great actor I don't know what the fuck happened to him
I just saw him a few weeks ago he must have gained like 80 pounds like he looks
like the guy from gladiator have you seen the guy from gladiator got a movie on
fucking Netflix holy shit he's been eating cheeseburgers for the last two
fucking years I mean I'm no fucking physique de la morale but fuck Jesus but
anyway I'm getting psyched up about this the near-all movie and I can't wait I'm
trying to book this is 2003 2002 I'm trying to book you know I'm trying to
book comedy shows so I'm trying to call the fucking agents and say listen
although club owners and go listen I'm coming out on this movie I think
analyze that came out December or something like that so I was trying to
get dates around it so people like you're in a dinner movie come on Joey
stop bullshitting me so I had a fucking prove it to these people that I was on
the thing I contacted the producers they will not give you your reel before the
film gets released nobody will give you a real before the film gets released you
know I don't care about my scenes now I could care less I'm not looking to add
things to my acting reels or who gives a fuck you know you want to see me watch
the many saints you know that's all I got for you but so I needed this real you
know the book of the things I wanted to get on the Sopranos I wanted to get they
were doing a lot of mafia movies big end high-end mafia movies so I called the
producers they told me they couldn't give it to me I called the production
house they said they couldn't give it to me and one day I'm doing a show in
Atlanta this is how fucking weird life is I'm doing a show in Atlanta and there's
a nice little dude there African American dude he's in the service we're
talking and I tell him my dilemma I'm like I'm trying to get this clip from
this movie and he goes I get it for you I go what are you talking about he goes
listen I got a friend who could hack right into that fucking streaming service
and take a piece out for you I'm like whoa whoa whoa you're gonna hack the
fucking studios movie system and get me the real and I'm like and they're like
yeah we do it all the fucking time I'm like all right send me the real well a
week later I get an email with the real and the phone rings and the kid goes
look at your email I got you the real I go oh thank you I owe you he goes there's
only one problem it's backwards because they send it backwards so nobody could
steal it so when you do steal it you gotta change it around so it you know
it's like I'm standing here and he's standing there not in this scene with
we're cross and it was a fucking nightmare so I'm like oh my god I got
this fucking thing and I got my scene I'm so fucking excited but now I gotta
flip it around nobody knew how to flip it around I must have called 20 fucking
people savages nobody could flip it around I'm like how am I gonna send this
tape up so I finally call this dude somebody told me call this dude he'll
help you if he can't help you nobody can't and this dude fucking says come on
down bring me the CD I bring him the CD with the thing I taped off the fucking
email you know I have no idea what I'm doing and the guy looks at it and he
goes he goes this is this is a property of whatever United or I don't know who
the company was he goes we can't turn this around we're gonna go to jail I go
listen who gives a fuck I go you got this boring ass job anyway the guy lived
in a fucking garage I swear to God the guy lived in a fuck he had a little
cot next to his little computer and he would just sit there with his little
cat and fucking dude like nasty things and fucking you know cut videos and
stuff all day I think he was like I added a slash hacker whatever he's like I
can't I'm fucking scared I go listen dog you better fucking do this because I
already told this guy I was getting it so he did a bunch of things I saw him
getting computers and cotton and fucking transfer into other computers and he
goes you're gonna have to go home I have to mail it to you because you know it was
on a CD I took it off the computer put it on a CD a DVD and then he was gonna
send it back to me I get all the way home two hours in the fucking garage I
open up my computer I'm ready for fucking the headline the fucking thing
flipped again like you can't even describe this thing and it flipped again
and separated us more so I said fuck it they're gonna have to wait till December
to get the real and that's my fucking story about fucking my friend hacking
into the studios to try to get my real they came out backwards and shit is it
nobody could fucking fix it back then it was 18 years ago anyway cocksuck is
I'm excited about the many saints in Newark I know a lot of you guys excited
about the many saints in Newark here's my man Samson who's playing I love him
in the trailer in the trailer the new trailer because I think they got like
two trailers out I saw the one trail last night during Monday night football
and they're like what do you call yourself pussy I fucking love that
people at home must have fucking flipped their wigs let's watch Samson I'll
see you guys afterwards stay black
what's happening you bad motherfucker look at my little brother looking fucking
younger you look younger Doug how are you Sam yeah putting the pieces together
excited for fucking tonight you know this is what we all put the work in for
two fucking years ago living on the streets walking around every fucking
night eating pizza you know the whole fucking thing it's coming to the I'm
very proud of you and I'm happy for you you know this happened for me at 58 you
know this happened for you at 20 something this is a this is the beginning
of your fucking career and how to balance it from this and people busting
your balls and you know yeah man it's listen you can't get ready for this
fucking life you just live it go you're gonna get hit from time to time you're
gonna get some fucking ass kickings but you have a roast beef sandwich you get
up and you do it again fuck them you know and you go back and get what
belongs to you like fucking fuck nut and fucking gladiator you know what I'm
saying he came back fucking missing fingers I don't give a fuck I'm taking
what's mine how's it going how's New York looking it's cool man I yeah it's
only like my me like my fourth or fifth time here you know when we came to shoot
the movie with my first time ever so really yeah first time ever and then we
filmed I had want to say one or two days in Jersey and that was my first time in
Jersey too so like that time and then I came back for the rap party we had
Alessandro's premiere for our self-defense that came to that and then
Reese's yes live this is literally like my I think it's like my fourth or fifth
time ever so I'm always for us when I'm here I was like you know fucking I was
like ho hum on this movie in the beginning yeah but you really motivated
me like that's where you know it's like when you it's like when you go join a
jujitsu school or karate school or something they always the the school
will always sell you on you know the camaraderie and this and you know
staying young like not staying young they don't put it in those terms they they
say that keeping your mind young you know it's really important like when I
was looking at this website the other day from the jujitsu school I'm going to
and they had a thing when you're older you know when you're older it's good for
you to go to a thing because you stay not that you stay young not that I'm
walking around with fucking skinny jeans and try to be cool with blonde hair and
a streak and fucking tattoos on my cheek you know what I'm saying like people
try to stay young by looking young you know yeah I died my head a fucking
shoot shit and stuff like that but that's it like I don't you know I don't
wear like a fucking hat and take pictures of me smoking a cigarette like all
mysterious and creepy you know that that's not what I'm about but just trying
to keep your thought yeah and when I met you and we started talking I would see
your enthusiasm and I would go this poor fucking bastard he doesn't know he
doesn't know what he's fucking so funny it's so funny everyone like most of
course you know everyone on this is that this is my first thing ever Michael's
first big thing you know his first feature and he's you know playing such
an iconic character but it's like us too and then it was a bunch of vets and it's
funny because like a handful of you guys have all stayed like I remember you
being excited to come to work one day and it's like yeah chill out I was like
what man I'm happy like it's fun like making a movie we're making a prequel
to the soprano it's like why are you not excited to like oh my gosh like it's
just so dope like everything about it's so sick like what people understand is
we would have done it for free oh like I wouldn't have sat there and fucking
negotiated with somebody like I'll do it for free David Chase directing learning
teaching you know see what the fuck he does you know I would have done it for
free like it didn't even bother me at first I was like the money I got the
hotel three weeks without my daughter and I was like and it was and flew back
to LA in the back out right yeah I flew out three times I flew out to LA I flew
out to Milwaukee one time in Minnesota and then I had to fly back for Sunday
because I was shooting Tuesday thank God I didn't have to shoot Monday I was
fucking beat the fuck up four shows in theaters and then another flight and
another flight my back was hurting but and then I flew back and I came back and
shot the last seven days maybe yeah and I think it was fun it was fun for me I
really had a great time I always had a blast we were working I mean it's I had
a blast every day I mean there was even days where I wasn't working I still went
to set I saw that I'm like this motherfucker's loving it I thought you were
going for the free food because that's the only reason I go to the set I came
to see you shoot your scene get the fuck out of here I came for that steak that
free steak they give you a PDM you got to milk that fucking PDM you know I'm
saying they give you $55 you got to put that in your pocket and fucking you got
to take as many cookies home as you can the fucking longest yard they had so
much food today and hey the Sopranos had a lot of food to the many saints had
tons of fucking food but the longest yard had 25 people that needed to be fed
you guys had like the guerrillas wrestlers I never forget the big guy
the leap I'll never forget walking down to get the van with him at six in the
morning and before he would get in the van the guy at the restaurant at the
hotel would just hand them at the go thing you know what it was it was like
15 hardballed eggs he would sit in that van eating hardballed eggs and I could
smell I would tell him to leap knock it off with those fucking eggs you stink
terrible what's gonna come out of your asshole is gonna be even worse he would
just cuz they're Indian they love eggs they love hardballed eggs I didn't even
put the correlation together till years later when my daughter was in daycare
there were these little Indian girls that would eat fucking eggs every day
hardballed eggs and you would walk in there and you could smell shit in the
whole day care because I can I go who's fucking shit like this that it smells
like an eight-foot man and they would say little Indian twin girls they were
the cutest fucking things they were so cute I could have quit my job I could
have quit everything and just walk these two Indian girls into Disney and lived
off the 10% they were twins and they were five they were my daughter's age they
were beautiful but they had kicked them they were kicking them they were
kicking them field goals from the 80 yard line they was thinking up a storm in
that fucking bathroom but you know that's the whole thing when you do a movie
you're like I'm excited to fucking eat like if you do a movie and you don't
gain weight you're a loser playing that simple I'll spit in your fucking face
that's what movies are for I never ate more than and it's funny because like
you know you have crafty and there's lunch and then there's all kinds of
different things and then I remember I forgot what we were doing but we're at
base camp you remember this day it's like me you Magaro somebody else who's
there and it was taking so long and you ordered us pizza it was tremendous
oh my god we got some pizza from Brooklyn that guy used to fall asleep
there's a guy in Brooklyn that has a pizza pot I know what his fucking name is
he's an old Italian guy and the guy from the Green Book was the guy that told me
about the pizza place he was Nick Nick Nick was it that's right so yeah it was me
you Nick Nick or there was like some there was like another like a featured
action that was hanging around us too I thought it was Paulie it was Billy there
I think it was Billy might have been Billy it might have been Billy I just
remember cuz we're all just in there and I don't know where it's like I'm ordering
a pie all right yeah fuck yeah and the one day we ordered gyros shit with fucking
me and burnt all we were ordering food I don't give a fuck and I was you know I
was working out I was but I was eating I wasn't eating under the sweet shit that
little truck that they had that you went in with the little Mexicans that was
deadly in there that motherfuckers were not fucking around their job was to
fatten you up I think I went over with I cheated up like seven times in one
hour they're like what do you want this time I'm like I don't stop I gotta relax
I remember we shot in Brooklyn I just started walking I went to Carvel and I
bought fucking those flying sauces and I gave them to the girls in wardrobe and
makeup and they weren't fucking nuts I was giving them reefer and fucking flying
sauces they were so happy I came back which is by I would buy a whole thing of
flying sauces eat one and just give it to them I think that day that particular
day I ate it with John Berthold me walked over to Carvel it was right down the
corner we shot those last scenes the bar scene yeah yeah yeah I had that and I
remember one night we went to eat dinner and they had to be two in the
morning and the only thing that was open with those fucking bars where you
smoke that shit from the hookah bars and brahman how many fucking hookah bars are
there in Brooklyn everybody's smoking a hookah get outside and smoke weed your
fucks every fucking hookah dog I went back to LA going what the fuck I forgot
about New York that at two in the morning they could be 30 people to
bodega we would go eat dinner and remember we had to go to a school and
then get out and then walk yeah yeah one day we must have walked two fucking
miles go get dinner through fences through yards down the stairs I'm like
what what a fuck I remember that I remember because I yeah we had a walk
over and like you know everyone on this move so sick so don't everyone's cool
and they're like oh you guys want rides or whatever and I just remember I was
like yeah I would take one in front I was like now we'll walk and I was like
but I guess we're walking right here we go but yeah I remember that was that was
those were those are the days like I remember filming and I remember having
such a blast like being a character and being on set and beer on but it was like
it was just being around everybody that kind of made me love this movie even
more being a part of it you know and making these these relationships you
know I felt like that was kind of I mean that was what I took away from it the
most you know this is unreal this is this is my life now so I think that was
kind of one of my favorite things about about filming this too how was the
process for you of this film how long did it take from you finding out about
this film to you auditioning for it to you finally being on the set mine was so
wild so at the time I only had a manager I had I had moved to LA
I had been in LA maybe like a year I've been in LA a year and my manager got the
audition and it said on title New Jersey project and I was like all right cool
whatever then you know I don't know how how other actors operate whenever I get
a break down and at the sides of you know to audition or self-tape whatever I
always look at you know who's directing who's producing the writers kind of do
my research can see what's going on and I saw you know Alan Taylor and then it's
all David Chase they're coming out there they chase oh man this is this is a
sprantles prequel and my manager was like yeah so I was like oh shit but it was
funny because I was reading you know how David is I was reading for the role of
butter that was my character but so I was like all right I don't care what it is
I don't care if I die I don't care if I don't care if like I'm only in a scene
I want to I want to do this so I remember I got the sides on a Tuesday and I hit up
one of my boys and I was like yo can you run these lines with me it's pretty big
yeah let's do it so we were running the lines when we went through it it's like
three or four pages and I'll never forget he was like yeah this isn't gonna
work man you sound like Biggie Smalls I was like oh shit I was like because I
didn't know you know how to do like a mafia you know so we watched the pilot
that night and I watched the pilot of the sprantles I had never seen it before and I
watched the pilot and I kind of like got a feel for it and then we ran it again and
my boys like yes do it just like this so I memorized it I went in the next day
and put it on tape because they had sent it to LA to find butter and I read they liked it
it gave me some notes I ran it one more time and we chatted for a second and then
they were like the best of luck and then that was on a Wednesday and then that next week
that next Friday so like you know 10 days later uh they hit up my manager and they were like hey
you're our guy and so we we did that you know we did a concert with everything and then they were
like also here's your NDA uh you're playing a young version of Big Pussy and I was like oh
shit I was like this is wild this is crazy so it happened so so fast that those 10 days felt
like forever but I mean it happened really really fast and then they're like all right what's your
you know what what's your availability for you know we want to do the table where you can come out
in March before we start filming blah blah blah and it just all happened boom boom boom boom boom
so it was it was pretty wild it was it was kind of uh it was kind of insane how fast it happened
but the funniest part about all of it was I started watching Supremes after I got it
after I got the audition and I think I was like halfway through like season one maybe I had just
finished season one and mind you I'd only been in LA for a year and I only had a manager I called my
manager I'm like hey there's this guy in the show Vinnie Pepp still hasn't I kind of looked like
I was like I want you to call him back and I want you to see if there's a young version
big plus I want an audition and my my manager Ryan Glasgow great guy who's this 50-year-old gay man
he goes listen sweetie calm down that's not how this works and I was just like all right my bad my bad
my bad let's get a little too ahead of myself and then that's why when the news came we were like
ecstatic he was like I hope you understand exactly what you're stepping into because he was a huge
Supremes fan as well and ever since then it's just been so it was a really good process but I mean
I'm excitedly at the confidence in me to kind of to step into this world you know I remember when
we first did our first scene together I was looking at you and I'm like your excitement was contagious
and that's what I've always told people that you know when you get excited about like I have to read
sponsors for this podcast you know and you have to be excited that's what makes other people get
excited to go fuck it I need me on these fuck it I'm gonna put a bed in tonight with DraftKings
you know excitement creates excitement and I remember how excited you are and I'm like you
know what I gotta get fucking excited like this fucking guy you know when I got the audition
and I heard about the film I called my agents because they're fucking sleepy you know they
probably keep me on the road yeah they shoot a movie you know yeah so I called them beat
them up a little bit like yeah I gotta read for this you guys fucked up with the Irishman
and you fucked up with something else you didn't get me into that I didn't even read for Green Book
I don't know what the fuck you guys are doing so I'm taking control of this shit I want to
audition for this one I'm gonna get somebody to get me an audition for this then they sent me the
paperwork and they're like audition for this role and I remember looking at it and for me it was
looking at it and figuring it out I had heard about David Chase's writing for years yeah you
gotta remember I went to New York in 99 and I was passing out tapes to different comedy clubs and
casting directors and my manager called me he goes you gotta drop a tape off at this new show
the Sopranos and I'm like I can't sing you know I can't fucking sing why am I going in for the
Sopranos and I forgot all about it and one night I'm in Cleveland all fucked up at the hotel
and I turn it on the TV on and it's the Sopranos and I'm like I read for that and it was by that
time it was like episode four or five it I didn't watch the trailer or the pie I didn't know nothing
I was it was a fucking comic in 99 okay well soon as a whole different world it was a whole
different fucking world you know and I came to New York with no whatever of auditioning for
the Sopranos or anything and I did the New York comedy festival and her assistant saw me on stage
at 12 30 at night and came up to me after my set and said can you read for the Sopranos tomorrow
11 o'clock I go no I'm leaving for Buffalo she's like well you just gotta make it there I need
Georgie and walk in to see you tomorrow yeah I auditioned for them for Gigi the FBI agent
and for Bacalazzo didn't get any of them and then they contacted me to put a uh a comedian on tape
and I didn't get that one either and then a couple years later I got hit up for the part of Big
Pussy's brother and I put it on tape and I got fired I was shooting spider-man too and they called
me when I met Sony going Georgine called me Georgine walking Christopher Walken's wife and she's
like we need you to lay this audition down and I'm like well you know I gotta wait till I get home
and I fucking I booked it and I got fired a lot of people don't know that yeah that's news to me
yeah for lack of confidentiality agreement because they said I told somebody I was auditioning for
the Sopranos oh shit yep so that's why when and there was a certain person that ratted me out
you know so I was like wow you know I just when she called me I took the hit I was a little upset
I knew I'd never get on the Sopranos and I moved on so when I got the movie I went home and like
won the first break I had and I'm like you know what I'm not even mad at that rat anymore that
ratted me out because he did me a favor I would have done the Sopranos when I wasn't ready
yeah you know I'm saying sometimes you got to be ready for something sometimes you're gonna
get a few projects I ultimately still fuck that guy but yes you know I'm saying like you're gonna
get a role in the future that you're gonna call me one day and go remember the conversation we had
on the podcast seven eight years ago I just bumped into that situation you're gonna shoot something
that I don't know you're not gonna feel it you know it's funny because since you know since
we wrapped on this and everything and you know my career has been moving there's been so many
like and I that's so frustrating there's been so many like me and one other guy me and one of the
guy me and one of the guy and I'm like and all of them have been really really dope projects and
it's like man I could do this I could do that but wide range you know I mean all over the place like
one was for you know you know working in military one is like a vampire one is you know but this
guy was so it's all over the place but it's always been me and one of the guy and and one of like
some of the advice I keep getting from a lot of you know vets is like it'll happen when it when it
when it's time it's time that's just that's how it is out here that's how our industry works when
when the moment's right when the timing's right it'll happen I think that's it was the same with
this when I to play a young Vinnie and then it was right and then it's just it's it's gotta it's
gotta take time that's why the longevity of it of people's career is and the people that make the
whole shit it's like it was the right moment in their careers you know so I think that's kind of why
it's giving me comfort you know it's giving me some comfort because I'm like I want to work I want
to be I want to be number one car sheet you know like I want to be that I want to do that you know
so I think it's I think that eagerness is kind of uh it's it's a little it's a bit of a little bit
of a bad thing sometimes I guess no it's natural brother you gotta be aggressive you're in fucking
LA that's what the problem with LA is a lot of people go to LA and they're not aggressive
they're not aggressive I'm gonna be honest with you I wasn't that aggressive my first four or five
years there and I'm aggressive I'm an aggressive mother fuck I get up in the morning I go you know
when when Mike walked into that I was putting on a dish and on tape I do my work you know oh yeah
but you could be aggressive and then you could there's a certain way of being aggressive working
smarter you know yeah and I fucking was aggressive as fuck like you couldn't tell me no like they told
me no for the longest yard do you know that what we don't even want you to read for it
what but dog this is what this is what I'm you're gonna run into this where people gonna go we really
like samson but he's not gonna read for this and you're gonna think about it you're gonna go home
smoke a joint go out one of your friends you're gonna tell one of your active friends hey I want
to read for this and they go you'll be perfect for this who told you know and you're like they said
they didn't want me and you go fuck you I'm gonna hire somebody and put me on tape for the longest
yard I went and bought extra small t-shirts and extra small football helmets and I put them on
like a two-year-old football helmet on my head I had a headache for two fucking weeks and I got a
shirt that was six lot sizes too small for me and my gut was huge the shirt was ripping as I was
doing the audition I could hear the shirt going but I didn't give a fuck I'm taking this role
because the roles we're gonna be offered to Tony Saragusa or Vinny Pasteur both of them
sweethearts both of them great guys yeah but the one thing both of them aren't our comedians
so how are you gonna order how are you gonna give two roles in the comedic film to two guys
that are not comics they're great actors in their own perspective Saragusa's a funny dude you know
he was with football with the fucking whatever but I'm when I let that settle I put it on tape and
I nailed that movie because you're not gonna tell a guy like me no that's never gonna fucking happen
not on my fucking clock and that's the that was the difference of aggressiveness that was the
difference I was kind of aggressive how long have you been like what number was that movie wise for
how to be like number 25 I'm saying like like for like a big role like that's how deep into your
career was that 23 years later I started acting in 97 so took me three years to get my feet under
me I did a couple projects and then for like four years three years I just did college films
yeah I just did all those UCLA USC films that nobody would ever gonna fucking watch nobody's
ever gonna see those three people the directors now we gotta do some homework we gotta find
yeah the director's grandmother his mother and his uncle is gonna watch the movie ain't nobody
doesn't watch that movie you know what I'm saying let's be honest with yourself so no matter how
badly I fuck up ain't nobody gonna see it so that was my mentality but at the same time I was
auditioning for big shows co-kays you know shit like that on NBC ABC and nothing was happening
and then one day clicked and I booked the four-episode art kind of show and the first two shows I was
trying to get you know I was waking up out of my fog and then when I finally woke up my the episodes
I was really good at was seven and eight guess when the show got canceled six you got it you got a
career as a fucking path read a palm read a cock sucker episode six how do you tell that to your
friends like my career's on fire I got four episodes on NBC the first two you just like a mutt you
don't know what you're doing you just like see you know whatever the fucking line is after that you
go home and you're like why am I acting that way I gotta act more like a fucking and now you're
going you do a breakthrough you do your fucking you know Steve McQueen and the fucking show gets
canceled episode six and you're like yeah that's great that's great and I would have been mad as
shit dog and that happened to me eight times do you know what I'm saying like that's part of the
fucking drama that's part of the tears you know how about I'm on fucking my name is Earl I got four
roles recurring he pulls me over after the last episode for the Christmas break and he goes dog
you're doing all of them next year in the prison so I'm gonna be on NBC during pilot season that's
fucking tremendous that's like stealing you just write your own fire you know I'm saying what happened
there's a fucking writer strike January 12th no fucking episode that's it no pilot no fucking
great Garcia no nobody so these are the point these are the little things in the business that
fuck with you the best is when you audition for something how about these when you auditioned
December 3rd remember they used to be pre-reads you know that right I mean I've heard of it
they used to be pre-reads where you went in there the motherfucker didn't talk to you like a midget
read with you some guy with like a high patch on read with you and then if you got past him then
you read with the fucking casting director then if you got past the casting director you got a call
back you came in and you had a call back for the thing and then they called you again and you had
to read with the other actors that were selected and then they called you again and do the word
lines backwards you know and then fucking oh my god they would put you through hell when I first
got that light it was a pre-read first in a room where the people with bad breath you know those
people with ugly headshots that they got like their grandparents to take a picture of them you
know with like sunglasses on and shit it's them oh it was a nightmare it was a nightmare and then
so now you go for an audition December 3rd this is for the people at home I just want to give you
a little fucking a little taste of our lives next time you see Angelina Jolie with the eight fucking
kids think of what she had to put up with to get those eight fucking kids so you read for something
December 1st okay December 3rd you get the call back for the direct casting director then December
8th you get the call back for the fucking producers right and they love you now they start mixing and
matching let's go back to four brothers from you remember that movie four brothers from my parents
Markey Warburg when I did the longest yard they called me right into four brothers for 18 weeks
they mixed and matched me Markey whatever at the end of the day I lost a role to a black guy that
was a star so what the fuck did you put me through all this shit for 18 weeks of meeting people
talking to foreigners black people go to Detroit yeah they spent 10,000 not to hire me
unfucking believable it's the truth 10,000 not to hire me you're going to it's I've had people
tell me they've read me 18 times they were like this role is you and all of a sudden they tell you
didn't get it and you look at the role and they give it to a black midget now I ain't got nothing
against black midgets but where the fuck did they say black midget on the breakdown they weren't
even looking for a black midget when this fuck Michelle was fucking written all of a sudden
during my fucking audition is when they decide on the black fucking midget so now I gotta sit there
and watch this tv show I almost got with a black fucking midget again I got nothing against black
midgets I'm just saying this is the life of a fucking actor so when you see me on the many saints
and you see Samson on the fucking screening you're like that's so lucky not really we've been through
hell to get here you understand me
I had to go to Delaware and get breed done by the fucking COVID in Delaware to get here so
and you and on top of all this you gotta stay positive
like you gotta go today's my lucky day cocksuckers I'm gonna rub my balls and sniff my fingers
that's that's how in the process of all this people fuck me it telling you again the best
is when you read the whole month of December because the project starts January 24th and then
that you go read the last time December 19th and you call your agent December 20th and go
what's my status with the show and they go I don't know they're gonna contact you after the
fucking winter break you have no fucking idea what it's like fuck you and your fucking driving
job at uber let me tell you something you don't know what it's like Christmas you break the tree
they did that to me three years in a row I just lit the tree on fire fuck Christmas be cool
get shorty and there was another tv show that put me on a oh the movie with uh when fucking
ving reigns fought uh spade whatever blade whatever his name is Wesley Snipes it was supposed
to be with Mike Tyson went to prison and some guy beat him up in prison there's a movie that
it's a Walter Hill film doesn't really matter yeah that was one of those motherfuckers that
Walter Hill came to see me at the comedy store he had me in there every day reading with another
guy back and fucking fought and all of a sudden December 18th he's like I'll let you know January
10th what I'll light your fucking Christmas tree on fire Walter Hill are you gonna leave me hanging
you can't even open up a present without crying you're fucking you're looking at the sweater from
grandma gone I wish I would have got that fucking roll it's a fucking nightmare I had something so
similar and I had been in LA had a man four months so I had been in LA and I got I got the
audition and I went boom and they loved it went back from a call back and then I had a second
call back and they're like a it was for like a big amc show all right so that's what you know
first season they already had I think it was an eight twelve episodes and I was like man here it is
like let's go oh no that's a lie not for me I had been in here probably like eight months so I was
I was like all right let's get it I'm like I'm brand new to this I was like I'm my career is I'm here
like I didn't have to wait nothing but and then I'm learning it as I go so it had the initial
audition was before Thanksgiving so then I had to wait like a whole two weeks to get the call back
and I got the call back and then I went two more and then like I had another one I think it was
like yeah like December like 15 16 17 in it right in there and they're like dude yeah you're got
are you available yeah you're available like you know you're are you on a veil so we're available
for from January to June right like everything's cool I'm like yes like let's do this like I'm ready
I'm ready okay well we'll contact you after the holiday break I'm like you want me to go home
and tell my parents after I just moved to LA and I'm excited I'm getting everybody so that's
when I learned I was like all right sense don't say shit don't expect shit because like you got
oh man it was the worst and and then I ended up losing it and they told us I think and they told
us like this is like January 12th so from that whole month I'm like this is mine it's mine like
I'm going I'm going up north like I'm filming in the north east like I was like hey that's my
grandparents like we have family up there right like I could go see them like I was it was done
like it was like they oh we love you you're our guy it's locked this contract in da da da this and that
nothing nothing but the funniest part about it the funniest part about is fast forward so that
was like before the experience 10 so fast forward like another two months month and a half I got
this audition for sopranos for many since so how that book did you know I mean like you know
everything happens for a reason but I was that's when I was really excited I was like oh man I'm
gonna be on this show series regular like I'm like four on call she like this is my life's about to
change no and then I was like mad you know for a little bit and then all of a sudden I get uh
I get this audition for this movie so worked out in the end what are you expecting tonight my friend
what are you expecting to see and I mean you saw it right yeah I saw it I'm excited for people to
see it I'm excited for it to finally be out I'm excited for you know mostly tonight I'm excited
for people to see Michael you know I mean me too there's been so much so much hype so much expectation
you know and so much you know I don't know you know I don't know the word for because I can't
imagine what it's going to you know I mean that's one of my best friends my brother I love that kid
you know I love him so much and I just can't wait for the world to see it like not only is he
a great person and a great actor but like he meets the hype you know I mean he really does
and I'm excited for the world to see this and then for his career to just kind of move because I
mean let's keep it real his father is one of the great actors of all time that's just that's just a
fact and I you know it's it's I always compare him and I talk about all the time we always kind of
compare things to to sports you know I grew football all right grew up playing football
and so I kind of relate everything to that and it's uh it's like you know being the son of
you know a hollow family you know you kind of got to live up to that hype you know you know
any sport you know LeBron's kids like they're playing basketball you got to live up you know
the father never wants that for them and you know the world is kind of like if you but it's like
it's that's just inevitable you're gonna have to live up to the hype and uh Michael does a
phenomenal job and I'm just I'm excited for the world to see it um Alessandro is I know he's he's
he's amazing in this I'm ready for the world for him to just not his career that just
bone Michaela and everyone just did a phenomenal job I'm just I'm excited for
soprano fans and new and and new people that come and watch this and then fall in love with
soprano daughter I think that's kind of the whole vibe of that um I can't wait for because
I mean just sitting down watching the show I was just like man I can't believe I called myself an
actor and I had never seen one of the greatest shows of all time you know what I mean so I I'm
excited just to be a part of this whole entire universe in itself you know you know for me man
I'm from Jersey and I can't imagine what it must mean for you oh for me it's like uh I'm from Jersey
I'm very proud to be from Jersey I'm very proud that I grew up here I made the most of my childhood
I robbed trains I fucking robbed jewelry stores I had a great fucking life I almost drowned in
seaside I almost died at seaside park on the hit of acid on the fucking on the water slides you know
I fucking I took advantage of this state uh everything it had you know and number two the
state was the second highest population of Cubans behind Miami and they fucking you know
I listen I when I came from Cuba I went right to New York City and I went to grammar school
New York City but my foot was always in Jersey you know like I used to get mad at people when
they talk shit about Jersey you know and I told David Chase one night at like three in the morning
we were shooting one of those long fucking nights you know he asked me something about the Sopranos
and I go listen man you did something that Bruce Springsteen and Bon Jovi couldn't even do you know
people love yeah and people love Bruce Springsteen yeah but I still remember in 1998
signing with an agent and she said give me your bio and when I wrote Northburg in New Jersey she
called me and she goes you gotta take New Jersey off people don't like it if you're from Jersey so
she filled in hell's kitchen and one of my friends saw it when he came to see me and he's like dog
what the fuck and I go you don't understand you don't understand that these fucking people don't
like Jersey really and within two years the Sopranos had taken that whole bad taste out of
people's mouths just flipped around now Jersey's a hot spot even the fucking Jersey Shore yeah
TV show couldn't make people really see what Jersey was for you know when you see the Sopranos I mean
even in our movie when you see the Sopranos they inflict Catholicism in there you know something
that you never do with a show yeah but in Jersey Catholicism is so big you're either a Jew or a
fucking Catholic there's no in between you know I'm a Lutheran no you're not not in Jersey you're
not unless you live down there with the Martians down with that fucking that shit past whatever
exit four those people that have like clear eyes there are binos and shit you know there's some
weird motherfuckers in Jersey Munaki New Jersey got the ugliest people you've ever seen in your
life everybody got a big head they walk weird when you're in Munaki it's like the Twilight Zone
the only good thing about Munaki is to go over your restaurant I have to take you there how long
you're staying in town for um you know I don't have a flight back okay the 27th and the 29th they
are doing movies in Eaton Town in Mammoth okay and they want all of us to go down there me you
Michael Gandolfini it's the wall something film festival oh okay yeah so I Michael agreed to it
he called me again this morning the guy he's like yeah we spoke a few weeks ago you know I he sent
an invitation to Allen and David Chase what are their chances of going into the heart of New Jersey
so yeah I want to know who's going to stick around for a few days they're doing one Monday
night the 20s yeah it's Monday at 615 in Jersey and Wednesday at 615 in Jersey it's the Art House
Film Festival oh yeah so they want us to do some type of Q&A so it would be you me and we'll see if
Alessandro wants we'll bring everybody I don't give a fuck we'll get some dinner at the Osteria
I'm a I'll take it to the fucking Osteria and we'll get some fucking uh your world I just live in
it okay that's it fuck it so I'll see you tonight ready to go you want to smoke some reefer tonight
or what are we doing tonight no it's funny it's funny because all my friends find out that you
know I was working with you and stuff they're like you know what like is he really smart you
you spoke in again I said I and I have one of my funniest stories was when we're sitting at a table
and uh it was like I don't know I think they were doing a different setup or something
when we're sitting there and I just remember like hey Sam I want to see the devil
and like you pulled out you're like uh what was it like little edible things it was like 200
milligrams of a thing I remember you said you like you snuck it to like your cousin or something
he was passed out of the bushes like three hours and everyone's like are you kidding I was like no
I was like he just I'm like he's his tolerance is unreal I'm like this guy is just like I was like
I can't smoke with him I can't hang out with him I can't be around him when he's smoking weed because
I know I'll just be I'll do slump I was like there's no way there's no I might hit a joint with you
but yeah bro I can't you keep it over there bro you keep it over there yeah we'll bring some
medibles tomorrow night I only got 100 milligrams now so we go you gotta go you know I'm saying
it's not like a 10 where you you put your foot in like a Cuban you know like when you land in the
United States you got a foot in the ocean you got a foot on the beach and you're an American
we don't work that way we put both fucking feeding we fucking jump what was that what
what happened that day remember we were filming and then we wrapped and you and I went back to
the trailers and we were waiting for our ride and remember one of the PA's came up and unwrapped
oh I was pissed I will never forget we're just sitting there waiting for our cars
he's smoking into it and he's like they off changed out of the soup got the sweats on
sitting outside the trailer to smoke even Joey I'm so sorry we're gonna have to unwrap you
I just looked at her like are you fucking serious and I'll tell you out of all the nights like
sometimes at night I smoke pot and I don't get high like because I burned the fucking candle
on both edges you know so but on that particular night whatever was in that joint toenail polish
whatever the fuck was in there fucked me up and she came back to me she's like you gotta
rewrap it was like two in the morning it was late it was late yeah yeah I'm like what the fuck I'm
on the corner in Brooklyn there's not a soul out I'm by myself waiting for an Uber this little
poor little Hindu girl came that was just the cutest thing in the world and they're like nah you
gotta go fucking unwrapping I remember going I am so fucking stoned and I had to take my clothes off
put the heavy artillery on the vest the white shirt the tie the jewelry and I walked in and I remember
that I wasn't mad as much as uh it was funny to me because I walked in and all of them were like
like a little prepared for me to go off or whatever and I was like what the fuck just
happened I go this is the most unprofessional thing I've ever seen in my life do you know that
Alan just looked at me he's a sweetheart him and the other guy that I used to call the Arab
whatever the fucking Swahili guy I'm like I'm like you are out of your fucking mind and so are you
I go this is the most unprofessional thing I've ever seen you for calling me back after two hours of
being wrapped and me for being a stoned as a fucking Tommy Chung I was high as fuck I didn't
have no lines they just wanted me to stand there it was somebody else's fucking scene
what do you gotta fucking do you know I'm saying I'm excited for tonight I'm excited to see what
happens with you in your career you're a young guy and you got all the tools brother I wish you
all the fucking luck in the world and hopefully tonight will be the beginning of a fucking great
fucking career so I wish you all the luck I can't wait to give you a hug tonight
and sneak an edible in your soda and uh by the end of the movie you'll be sitting there
what prequel
send tell my girl I said hello and tell her is she coming to the premiere yeah yeah she'll be there
send her tell her I'll see them tonight tip top magoo ready to go and then we're going to the
after party then there's an after after after party I'm at all of them I'm at all of them
that one is that a Chinese fucking opium den in fucking Chinatown I'm taking you to okay maybe
I'll skip that one but no we're going to the opium den they give you egg rows and opium you can't
fucking lose you understand me a Chinese guy rubs your feet you'll feel like fucking brand new
I love it I love it I'll see you tonight brother thank you for coming on the joint thank you
don't forget to follow Samson on Twitter Instagram wherever the fuck he's from
you're gonna love him he's tremendous it's gonna be a great time tonight take care Samson love you
all right that was a fun interview uh as you could tell we're all excited we're all fucking
giggly about tonight uh I just got a call earlier they're doing a dinner if I wanted to go to the
dinner beforehand you know this is gonna be great tonight I appreciate all you guys uh encouragement
I appreciate everything you did for me during this time you guys know that this is a special
I'm excited about tonight I'm excited about this project I'm excited about living in
fucking New Jersey I'm excited about being back as a fucking hole so I love you mother fuckers
don't forget we got great fights this week the return of Nick Diaz against fucking Robbie Lawler
we got fucking Shannenko we got Draft King we got a bunch of shit going on I love you mother
fuckers have a great weekend I want to thank Samson for coming on the joint and I want to thank you
guys for always having my mother fucking back I can't wait to tell you about the premiere and how
went I'll see you guys Monday morning tip top mother fucking Magoo ready to go the last week of
fucking September we're on to the fucking winter by the way happy spring it's spring today wash your
fucking asshole cocksuckers I love you stay black now for a word for my mother fucking sponsors
all right I want to thank my man Samson I don't know I don't know what his last name is he's a
great fucking kid I love him to death and he really helped me out through the movie follow his
career follow him on Twitter Instagram Facebook great fucking kid and do not forget to get your
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