Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #106 | JON BERNTHAL | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ
Episode Date: October 13, 2021Welcome to The JOINT..... It’s Wednesday, October 13th..... Today we spoke to our Great Friend & Actor, JON BERNTHAL! https://www.instagram.com/jonnybernthal https://www.twitter.com/jonnybernthal T...his episode is brought to you by DraftKings, Public Rec & CBD Lion….. Download the DraftKings SportsBook App & Enter Code: JOEY https://www.DraftKings.com/sportsbook to receive $100 in Free Bets when you Bet $1 on any Football Game when either team scores a point…. Go to https://www.cbdlion.com Use Promo Code: JOEY or CHURCH For 20% OFF Your Order! Go to https://www.PublicRec.com & Use Promo Code: JOEY for 10% OFF! Follow Uncle Joey on Social Media: https://www.Twitter.com/madflavor https://www.Instagram.com/madflavors_world And don’t forget..... The Mind Of Joey Diaz on PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/joeydiaz #JoeyDiaz #Madflavor #UncleJoeysJoint #TheJoint #JonBernthal The JOINT is Produced by: Michael Klein aka @onebyonepodcast on Social Media: https://www.Instagram.com/onebyonepodcast https://www.twitter.com/onebyonepodcast Huge Thanks to BEN TELFORD for the Tremendous intro video.....
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Welcome to Uncle Joey's joint.
What's happened, you bad motherfuckers? It's Wednesday, the 13th of fucking October.
Do me a favor.
Somebody call me, please.
Anybody know where the fucking time is going?
Where the fuck is it going?
Friday is going to be the 15th of the fucking month already.
What the fuck is the month gone? Where's this year gone?
All I remember it being fucking 4th of July and me
lighting firecrackers in a fucking one of those Roman candles in October fucking 13th.
It's great. I'm feeling good.
Hope everybody's doing well at home.
Fucking went to this place last night and fucking Edison called Harrell's.
Holy shit.
I wish I was exaggerating to you, motherfuckers.
The sandwich is possibly nine inches fucking tall.
I've never seen anything like this.
Yeah, it's this fucking big.
You go with six people, even the waiter will say, just order a sandwich for two.
You're like, but there's six of us.
He's like, trust me, just order a sandwich for two.
Holy shit.
I went off my way.
Watch your points.
I mean, I blew the fucking system last night.
If you got a chance to go to Harrell's and fucking Edison,
the onion rings, the fucking listen, it's the best Jewish deli I've been to since
fucking cats and you guys know I love motherfucking pastrami.
I kept it light a couple ounces, you know,
but I had to eat a fucking onion ring and I had to get the fucking mushroom bali.
You know, I'm down with the Jews from day one, Jack.
They had Kegel, they had all that Jew food.
I was like, what the fuck?
And it just wasn't.
It was delicious to fucking dessert.
If you got a chance to go there, I gotta tell you something, motherfuckers,
that I'm really proud of Jersey got some good ass food.
I mean, good ass food, you know, South Jersey.
Holy shit.
I mean, I am very, very, very fucking impressed, guys.
And it's, you know, me, I look to talk shit about somebody's restaurant,
but don't even give me a fucking opportunity to down here.
Everything is good.
Even the fucking Wawa, when Ari came down here,
he was so excited that there was a Wawa.
I had a thirty five dollar gift certificate.
My car had to give it to him.
He was like, oh, my God.
It was like giving him a fucking, you know, a fucking receipt to like,
what do you call those coupons?
You give people like gifts to a restaurant?
Like it was like giving him like a fucking thing to rails or something.
He was so fucking excited over thirty five dollars, a gift card.
You get gas.
He loves the sandwiches in there.
Like people to fucking pretzels.
Oh, my God, Mikey brings me to pretzels.
Some nights I get super fucking stoned.
I put them in the microwave oven.
I put a little hot mustard on those motherfuckers or what?
Or I, you know, me, I'm a hillbilly.
I'll dip those motherfuckers in olive oil.
So when I wake up in the morning, I shit nice.
That's how you know what I'm saying?
That that 10 points for the whole pretzel.
You eat a half, but it's only five.
You got to use your head cucksuckers.
You know what I'm saying?
Who the fuck you think you're dealing with, Joey Bananas?
I fucking I'm having a hard time sleeping like three nights in a row.
I didn't know what it was.
And I'm like, oh, instead I smoked that pipe.
I got a bang it out with the fucking joint last night.
I went back with the joint.
I got some of that fucking laughing gas.
I put some keef in that motherfucker.
I rolled that motherfucker up and I went in the front and smoked it.
Holy shit.
I came downstairs.
I don't even know who I talked on the phone last night.
I fucking blacked out again.
I'm starting to feel like that chick that died.
What's the name of the singer?
I got to go to rehab.
I'm telling you, Doug, I'm like Amy Winehouse, Jr.
I'm blacking out at night off a reefer.
No, nothing, nothing else.
I do some edibles.
You know, I do like I do the tea, which is two milligrams.
I do three ABX capsules, which is 300.
Sometimes I put an extra one in there for good luck.
You know, I'm saying like you don't want to slip on the way to bed.
You want to fucking a little extra four hundred for good luck.
I'm out of the tincture, the farm's tincture, but I got the syringes.
So before I was using a syringe, the whole fucking syringe in the tea.
That's a waste.
That's overkill.
All I got to do is I could split the syringe now into four nights.
If you're looking to make that Michael Jackson tea,
you could split, you get a syringe from fucking whatever farms.
And I just put like maybe two tents in there.
That's it. And guys, it's over.
I put the tea, I make a regular cup of tea.
I put an ice cube in there for the cool off.
So I don't have to sit there like grandma for two hours drinking tea, sipping it.
I don't need that in my life, burning my tongue and shit, burning the roof of my
mouth one day I took because then I take the tea bags out and I suck on them for
a while, like I just suck on them like that nuts.
I put one on this side and one on this side and I just sit there watching TV.
Just a little bit under my gum.
I suck everything out of those fucking teabags because the tincture and shit goes
into the teabag, so I drink everything out of the teabag and then I stare it up
good, the tea and I down that motherfucker, the joint is rolled before I even go
upstairs to prepare the tea. You know me, dog, the joint is rolled at like nine
thirty. I don't want no misunderstandings.
I go from the tea to the porch and I smoke my fucking bone.
Oh my God.
I'm loving it, guys.
I don't need to smoke in the daytime no more.
A lot of you guys threw me out of the church.
If you're not high by two o'clock, go fuck yourself.
I get it. I'm against the rules, but I'm doing my own motherfucking rules.
I'm down to one fucking number a day at night.
That's tremendous, guys, especially coming where I was coming from.
I was smoking 82 fucking thousand bongs a day and that was just a bongs.
Never mind the fucking hits.
I hit that freeze pipe again the other night.
That's not a bad.
Oh, that's not a bad.
When Lee told me he wasn't coughing anymore, I knew there was something in it
because I remember when I lived in Colorado, I never fucking coughed.
And I was in that high altitude.
I got to tell you something, that fucking pipe,
that great little fucking pipes, I'll give you the bong because I'm not going to use
the big bong. I used the little one, the one I show them.
I used the little one.
That thing hits like a fucking mule.
That'll kick you right the fuck.
I've never been a big bong guy.
The big bongs are nice, but A, they break, they're big.
And B, I've always felt that the little mules do the best job.
You get yourself on 18 inch and smaller.
That little midget one, I don't like the midget bong.
That's a blow job.
That's a die hard.
But the fucking the bubbler.
Yeah, I like the big, the medium fucking whatever.
I don't like the little.
I don't mind having a bubbler, but it's got to be a little fucking bigger.
You know what I'm saying?
Today's guest is John Burntaw.
I've been friends with him since Grudge match.
He was on the church.
I've never been friends with a leading man before.
We speak all the time.
You know, we got tight after Grudge match and we got tighter on the bond during
the Sopranos, it was great to have him.
You know, he's just a great guy to have around.
He's knowledgeable as fuck.
He knows everything about acting and he's just a great fucking actor.
As you guys know, I'm not a good actor.
I'm a mediocre actor, but I work hard.
So I make it seem like I'm doing something.
But this guy is just great.
He's been a great friend to me.
Great, like I said, it's great having a fucking leading man as a dear friend.
You could ask him questions.
I'll never be a leading man.
So it doesn't fucking matter.
I love this guy with all my heart.
He's got a new movie out that he sent me the night and he knew he knows my taste.
I mean, we've talked about all the movies.
I like he hit it right on the fucking head with this movie.
I've watched this movie twice and I was about to watch it again last night,
but it was just getting too late.
I was watching the Dodger San Francisco game.
So I didn't really want to fuck that up.
I enjoyed it, man.
This is one of those.
I like small time movies.
I mean, I like big movies too.
But the best way I've learned about acting is by doing small production movies.
You know, when you do a big movie like Spider-Man 2,
people opening up the doors for you of eight people gushing around you,
tucking your shirt in, making sure you have a little hair over here,
shaved that you do a hundred dollar a day movie or a low budget movie or a movie
that the budget's not that high.
A lot of those people aren't on the set.
You got to you got to fucking do it all yourself.
So it's a big education.
I had a podcast.
I was on some girls podcast yesterday, sweet girl, Jessica.
And I was explained to her that, you know, years ago,
like I had been in 20 fucking things, I got 75 acting credits, guys.
You know, I should know a thing or fucking two.
I didn't even know I didn't count them.
The guy Chuck counted them when he brought me up at the Q&A in Eaton Town and whatever.
I have 75 credits.
You learn shit after a fucking while.
But I told Jessica yesterday on the podcast when I was doing her when I was on there
that I did General Hospital fucking years ago.
If I would have got that call for General Hospital when I moved to L.A.,
I would have been fine.
They don't talk to you on that set.
They don't say nothing.
You check in, they tell you what room you're in and that's it.
There's a monitor on the wall that tells you when to go out,
when to rehearse, when to come back, then they'll bring you back out again.
You don't even have you go out there.
You say the lines to a soap opera like, let's say I'm doing a scene with Mike
and I fuck up a line, we start the scene from the top on a soap opera.
They don't even give you that.
They started from that line, pick it up from where you thought, oh, OK,
Charlie, let's go, you know, that type of shit.
And they rush you out of there.
You're like, you're gone. OK, that's it.
There was days I was getting there at eight and I was in my car at 9.15.
Like they don't fuck around.
They rap at five.
So if you're thinking about getting into acting,
me and Mike were talking about this early, how yeah, when you're a musician,
we're told that you have to be a musician and a band and tour.
Not really. There's other type of musicians.
There's people that make millions of dollars that you don't even see.
You've never even heard that makes jingles.
You know, much money there is in fucking jingles.
What's that one, the Jeopardy jingle?
That guy gets like 64,000 a week.
I think it's one of the guys that
created all those shows.
He also created the jingles to those shows.
This company, Marv, something like that, his company is fucking huge.
So just because you're not touring doesn't mean it's like right now,
I'm looking for a content writer job.
That's the same thing as doing comedy.
You're writing while who's not better.
Who's better than fucking you for a content job?
That's me.
That's what I'm looking for, a little content writer job to describe.
I have a friend that was a big time director.
And one day he just quit.
You know what he does?
He directs the videos to how to build shit for Costco.
No, for Ikea.
He's been there for 15 fucking years.
Happy as a pig in shit and he's home by five o'clock.
So always, you know, don't give up.
If you're a musician and your band's fucking up, who cares?
Just create jingles and make millions of dollars and you don't get VD.
Who's better than you?
Enjoy John Berthorke.
Talks suckers.
Check one, two, welcome to Uncle Joey's joint.
What's up, beautiful?
What's up, my man?
Here you go.
What's up, my man?
How are you, Joe?
He's good to see you, man.
Great to see you.
I saw you on the red carpet and then they made me fucking go in and I didn't see
anybody. You know, I gotta tell you, man, you know, I saw you there.
I saw you there and your eyes connected.
Joe, I love you so much.
I love you too.
You've always been so good to me.
I like, you know, it's crazy because then I spent the rest of the night there at
that fucking party looking around for you, trying to find you.
And I was so bummed that we didn't get to see each other.
You were the guy I was looking for.
But, you know, we did, you know, it's like we, it was like a old school romance
movie, you know, we locked eyes and I see and it's, you know,
sometimes, man, everything that needs to be expressed can be expressed in a look,
man. I, you know, I felt you when I saw you.
I just, I just wish, you know, and even today I wish that I got to be with you.
You know what I mean?
It was great, though.
It was great seeing you.
It was great seeing you on the big screen.
You know, it's fucking great, man.
How are you?
I'm good, man.
I'm good. You're so good at that movie, man.
So are you. You were great.
I love that boohoo.
I still say them.
I'm saying boohoo to everybody now.
When you boohooed Junior, I fucking loved it.
Boohoo.
Look at Dickie Maltesanti.
He fucking his dad died and he stepped up.
Cocksucker.
You drove that fucking guy to kill Dickie.
Shit.
With the boohoo.
How's this new movie you're shooting?
You enjoying it?
Yeah, it's good, man.
You know, here in Baltimore, man, it's, you know, it's it's a it's a really
it's a I'm really honored to be a part of it, man.
You know, David Simon, George Pelle, Conos, those guys are heroes to me.
You know, I'm making it with this guy named Ray Green, who directed the this movie.
Came Richard.
I got coming out about Serena and Venus and their dad, Richard Williams.
And, you know, I love this guy and making it with I love this town.
It's a beautiful city.
It's a brutal city.
It's got so much heart.
I'm so grateful to the people here for embracing me.
And it's a sensitive story about sensitive stuff.
But, you know, the people in the police department here and the people in the
community here, they've really welcomed me in.
And it's that that's a real honor for me, Joey.
I know you love all that shit.
You love it. You're the real deal, man.
I listen since I became friendly, I started watching your work.
And I'm watching it to learn, you know,
with the fucking I bought a learn.
I can't tell you how much I love that punishment.
I cannot fucking tell you.
I cannot tell you.
I look at it.
I want to ask you some questions about how intense was the training
before? What did what discipline did you train?
And you were fucking motherfuckers up in that show.
I mean, look, Joe, you know, the training part, you know, you know, the weapons,
you know, the stuff I do, a tear and a tear and tactical, you know, those guys are
greatest, the weapons training.
And obviously, you know, I've done the fight training, you know, most of my life
and we're carrying who you know and love.
And and and then, you know, I'm
look, man, the the folks from the military, Kevin Vance from the Navy Seals,
Tyler Gray, the guys that I've gotten to meet along the way and been part of my
training and everything, you know, I'm just I'm so grateful to them.
And the training, look, that's I mean, I don't mean to be I don't know what
the word is, I don't I don't mean to be cute about it.
You know, that's the fun part.
That's the easy part, you know, I think the training.
I think, you know, the the tough thing there is is, you know, it's really at
its core, it's about a man who's who's lost his wife and kids that they were
taken from and, you know, like you, man, my family is everything.
I until you know what it's like to to have this profound love, this love where
you you absolutely in a second give your life for them, for your kids, for your wife.
Until you understand what that's like, you can't even begin to start to imagine
what it would be like to lose that.
And that's a if you really want to approach that realistically, that's a
that's a dark road to go down.
It's a dark road to go down.
And and I think the hard part of that is that you've got to you got to play that.
You got to respect that.
You got to do that honestly.
You got to go to those places and and also, man, look, this character means so
much to the the the carbon book audience, to to law enforcement, to military.
And and that's enormously important to me.
It was enormously important to me to look at you say you want to do it right.
I don't know how to do it right.
I just know how to kind of give it my all.
And and and that's what I wanted to make sure that I did the entire time.
And and that's the only part we can that's the only part in this business
and in this job that we can kind of control is giving it our all.
It is effort and dedication.
It's really crazy when it comes to acting.
I came from the stand up school,
but I grew up loving movies.
I love film.
I love sitting in a movie theater.
The whole I have a process.
I have to eat Chinese food.
I have to smoke a joint.
I like going to the movies by myself.
Maybe too, because people are paying the ass.
So I like going movies.
I've always held sacred.
You put
like I've never I've been to acting class and I, you know, done little things,
but your level of commitment to acting, I could definitely see it on the big screen.
I don't know if you could understand that,
but your commitment and I really saw it in the in the many saints.
I saw a little bit of it in the Punisher.
I saw a lot of it in small engine repair.
You're a powerful fucking actor.
You know, look, Joey, I appreciate you saying it and I say it right back to you.
But don't you think the whole thing?
I mean, look, when you really think about stand up and what you guys do,
you know, I have so much admiration and respect for it because you guys are
flirting with disaster every time, like the courage that would take to go up there
and not only risk bombing, but but embrace it, embrace that risk.
What do you got for me?
What are you guys?
They're danger here or I'm going to run towards it.
I think this thing that we do, we've got to find that.
We always got to find the danger.
We always got to embrace the real palpable risk of a failure
and a phone flat in our face, taking that big risk.
I think we got to do it.
And I think that that comes really for me.
It's it's training, it's dedication, but it's also just living life, man.
It's living life.
It's being big, gone through shit, growing, changing,
you know, sticking your, you know,
seeking adventure in the way that you've lived your life, understanding that you're
going to fail, admitting your failures, you know, going down some pretty dark roads
and then trying to come out the other end of them.
And when I look at you and I look at your life and I look at the kind of artists you
are, you embody that, you embody that absolute honesty at all times, absolute
honesty at all times, the way you live your life is the way you do your art.
Yeah, I'll tell you, man,
a guy just sent me this morning, coincidentally, I was going to,
I knew I was going to do your show.
And some guy just sent me this YouTube video of the last time I was on,
I guess this actor who was in episode one of The Walking Dead posted this clip
from our interview, when I was on your show and I talked about
an experience that I'd gone through when I kind of had hit a rock bottom and I'd
made a big mistake and we talked about sort of changing your life and turning a
negative into a positive and, you know, man, I love your audience.
You don't know how many people saw that episode and have come to me and said,
you know, I made a big mistake and I went through a dark time and I turned it into
a positive and I think only folks that have been through that can really talk
about that and can articulate that and can then provide hope to folks who are
actually going through that and you're that guy, Joey, and I'm just really
grateful for that conversation.
I'm grateful that folks have come up to me and said that that actually had an impact.
We're not here just, you know, I mean, look, maybe we want to make people laugh.
We want to have a good conversation.
But if through this, you actually get to reach somebody and give them a little bit
of a hope if they're in a tough time, it's beautiful, man.
And I think your story and the way you conduct yourself for me, it's inspired.
And people have no idea what it's like to be on set with you.
What a gift that is.
You get a front row ticket to Joey, you understand we're shooting the show.
Then you get to sit in the back room among the chairs.
Normally I just stay in character, I stay with it.
But I was like a magnet to those chairs.
I get to hear Joey just cracking everybody.
I mean, the crowd, people don't understand how big of a gift it is to be on set with you.
It was fun.
It was a long fucking night.
And we got into some great conversations with the guy from the brother.
He was great late night.
He was talking some fun.
He was dropping some truths to the guy that.
Yeah, Harold.
Oh, Leslie Leslie is fucking.
We had some great talks at night.
He was he's a deep fucking dude.
I didn't know he could sing.
But the thing that you mean that guy is really
talented, the thing that you, me and him have in common.
We love what we do and we opened up our world to take advice.
We you appreciate your audience.
Nobody appreciates their audience more than me.
They made me become a better comic and a better person because I knew they were there.
That's right. I knew they were there.
They're there. They're there watching you there.
They're watching your every move to make sure you're not a flash in the pan
or you're bullshitting them or you're a hypocrite.
I've been with them and I love them.
If you love, if somebody gives you love, how do you receive?
I'm going to give that love right back.
You've got to give it back.
It's valuable and they're coming to see Joe Ideas.
That that means something, means something to them.
So it means something to you, of course.
When you walk on that set, I'm thinking about my performance, but I'm also thinking
about my behavior and I'm thinking about the people that are coming to see that movie.
They're going to have to get a babysitter.
They're going to have to drive.
They're going to have to do so much to go see that fucking movie.
I get all that. I got that from comedy.
They're going to get a baby there on top of the fucking shit you're hitting them
with, you know, the popcorn and the fucking raisin.
That's for twenty two fifty and the whole fucking thing.
They got to go through a babysitter.
They're going to go out to dinner.
Right. You're going to take your wife out to dinner
before you go to a movie.
There's all these things you got to do.
So I appreciate them doing that.
I know how hard it is to say goodbye to your daughter and your son.
I'm going to see some fucking stupid movie or whatever.
I consider all that shit.
So I want to be the best.
When I used to do comedy, I would do the spots at the store.
Yeah. And people are not going to believe the story.
But I'll tell you how fucking shitty I am as a fucking comic.
I would do spots because I never wanted to bomb on the weekend.
So what I did was I did more sets so the percentages would be in my favor.
So a lot of comics just go out on the weekends and then they'll bomb on the road.
One show don't go one out of five shows.
They'll bomb.
I didn't want to do that to my audience.
So I'd rather take a bomb on a Tuesday or a Thursday because I know it's coming.
You got to know what's coming when once you put your hands up.
I don't care how good a defense.
What's that ratio? What's that ratio?
How much how many shows you expect to bomb out of like if you do 10 shows,
are you definitely going to have a bomb?
Two out of 10.
No, really? Yeah, I don't give a fuck who you are.
Except for you or with the audience.
I've never seen you bomb your life.
You bomb you.
Well, we're over critical.
You're over critical.
You look at it, you watch a movie and you do something wrong with your hand.
You beat yourself up.
Of course, you do a bad choice.
You beat yourself up.
Well, I just know and that's what you need to do.
You need to beat yourself up.
That's right.
You know, when you're driving home and I had to drive up Laurel Canyon.
That's a beating.
That's a fucking beating.
That's a beating that your father would give you.
You got to get your life together.
You got to step up to giving you this opportunity.
You're going to be a pussy the rest of your life.
You're going to be a pussy the rest of your life.
You just ate a bag of dicks.
Don't let it happen again.
You know, that's the talk.
But when you're a performer, when you're a baseball player, you bat 364.
There's a percentage.
So I'd rather go out during the week and take a brick to the fucking head on a
Tuesday than take a brick to the head when those people have a babysitter.
And when they really can.
Sometimes I didn't bomb on a Tuesday and sometimes I didn't bomb on a Thursday.
So I knew I had to work extra hard.
I had to go over my set list before I got on stage backwards and frontwards.
You know, even though I make it look organic,
that's the whole thing is making it look organic.
I want them to think that I said it for the first time.
I've said it 3,000 times, of course, of course.
That's where we're at, brother.
That's it. That's it. That's it. I'm with you.
And that's your love and I could see it in your work.
And that's the most important thing that people have to see.
If you call it in, people will see that too.
I remember one night I opened up for Rogan.
Wasn't prepared and somebody came up to me after the show and they said,
Doug, you called it in. It destroyed me.
Your original feeling is to punch him in the mouth.
But then you're like, that's the punk in me.
That punk doesn't exist anymore.
He came to me to tell me to tell me a real thought.
He knows that he expected more from me.
And I called it in.
So he came up to me and told me the truth.
It's actually a good friend.
A good friend tells you the truth no matter what.
That's the only kind of friend you want.
And this guy wasn't a friend.
He was a guy in the audience that paid 25 bucks or 40 bucks or whatever.
He paid to see Rogan and he got a piece of shit from me.
And I agree with him that night.
I went up to the room and I was furious.
You know, that's if you don't get furious, there's a problem.
It's like people who say, well, how do you still get butterflies?
If you don't get butterflies, you shouldn't be in that.
If you put me in the ring with a four year old, I'm going to get butterflies
because I know I'm going to get hit.
Well, I'm going to get kicked.
I'm going to kick him.
I might be to his ass.
He's four.
I might pull his fucking hair.
The small engine repair.
Tremendous movie.
So it twice started watching again last night.
I'm trying to figure out with the wife how to connect it to the TV so he could
see it because I'm a fucking idiot.
I had to sit there.
Great story, great acting.
Thank you.
What is this coming out?
So it's so it's it was in theaters and now it's just
coming out, it's going to be on demand.
It's going to be on video on demand now for a few weeks and then it'll come out
in Hulu, I think next month.
So you can see it on demand now.
You know, look, you know, it's a movie, it's a real passion project.
We did that as a play 10 years ago in LA at a 40 seat theater in a late night piece.
Me and John, you know, the guy who started in the movie, he wrote it and directed it too.
You know, he's a guy from New Hampshire.
You know, it's looking to about the kind of guys that don't really make movies about
anymore, you know, just blue collar, real guys.
And it's really, really explores a father's love for his kid.
I know you understand that and what you do.
Nobody's perfect in that movie.
You know, it's very much about the gray area and it's about, you know,
sometimes the way we talk, you know, you get joking around with guys, you say things,
but then sometimes it goes a little bit too far and sort of explores that.
And then sometimes it gets dangerous.
And nowadays with all the pressure on these young kids with social media,
I don't want to give away nothing in the story, but it shows how one thing can
kind of lead to another how and the difference between just talking a little shit
and when it actually gets toxic and when it gets actually very dangerous.
And and what that does to these guys and the way that they handle it is imperfect.
You know, there's no that's the kind of stories I love.
It's not about good guys and bad guys.
It's all very gray, but very honest.
And I think, you know, this writer, John Polano, you know,
when I was in trouble, the thing that I talked about the last time, you know,
I came on, I was in depositions.
I had done see right after season one of The Walking Dead 10 years ago,
a buddy of mine called me up and he said, hey, listen,
you want to come do this play reading tonight?
I'm like, listen, buddy, I'm in depositions.
That's the last thing in the world I want to do.
He said, come on, come on, you got to come do it.
So I agreed to do it.
I show up. It's the last thing I want to do.
You got all these theater folks around.
I see John Polano there. He's sitting there.
I go, what have I got myself into?
We read this thing out loud and I'd never heard writing like this.
I mean, I, I think he's the best American playwrights since David Mandon.
I said to him after I said, let's do this.
He said, we could do it.
I had a teeny theater here in LA. It's just 40 seats.
I said, I'm in. Let's go. I'm in right now.
We did it. The play exploded.
It became and won all the awards in LA.
Then we moved it to New York off Broadway, blew up.
It was always this passion project for John and I that we would make it into a movie.
And, you know, 10, 10 years later, we finally did.
You know, everybody who had ever done the play has roles in the movies.
You know, my dog, who was in the who was backstage at the original play,
he came and was in the movie.
This dog played him in flashbacks.
You know, we it was a real labor of love.
And I think you said it when we talked about it the first time.
They just don't make it's an old school movie.
It's funny. It's a thriller.
It changes on a dime.
And I really think it's we're proud of it and we're proud of it.
I'm really glad that you watch.
I knew you like it's about everything I love.
Friends and my daughter and kid, you know, a kid, you know,
I really love friendship.
I'm a fucking student of friendship.
I love.
You know, I was telling the podcast people,
I went to the carnival in my hometown Saturday night and people were asking me,
like, what are you doing here?
Like, why are you here?
Do you have a limo driver?
Where's your security?
And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?
I came up here again as a labor of love.
My buddy runs the carnival.
He runs that park.
I wanted to see him.
But when I got there, they didn't want anything from me.
They didn't want to hear nothing.
All they wanted was to take a picture in love and they were giving me love.
And what a beautiful opportunity.
Oh, my God, what's better than that?
You know, you know, I when I was I was just home a couple of weeks ago and I got
to go to the North off high school football game in my hometown.
I live in a small town of Ohio, California.
There's no place I'd rather be.
Take my kids to the game and, you know, to see the community and be out there.
You know, we we spent so much time on the road, so much time where, you know,
we're just, you know, we got to be somewhere every second.
We got to be on.
We got it. It's just great to, I don't know, just to be around folks and to get
to connect with people.
It's such a gift and I know that's who you are.
I mean, it's what you do in everything.
And we're really lucky, man.
We're really lucky that we get to that.
You know, just the fact that you go and take a picture with somebody,
mean something to that I can't I still to this day.
I can't believe it.
You know, I couldn't believe it myself.
I couldn't believe it myself.
They didn't want anything.
They didn't want to talk about nothing.
They just wanted love.
They were happy to see me after 40 years.
Tons of people I hadn't seen since high school.
My friends banned who the first time I saw my buddy looked that I went to dinner
with before the carnival looked at me and he goes, it's like being in the shed.
When we were in high school, he had a shed and we go there and all of us
would play the drums and shit.
And I turned around and I go, no, this goes back to the rec center in the seventh grade.
When he was playing the guitar and this fucking guitar string broke
and I died a laugh and I'm like, why am I laughing?
That dude's up there doing something.
I'm over here, a spectator with these jerks off, drinking beers and smoking pot.
And I became friends with him and now we're dear friends.
And his mom was there.
You know what it's like to see his mom after 30 years and I went up to her
and thanked her for all the meals, all the shit she put up with in her shed.
Dad has shed.
We painted the walls, Pink Floyd, the wall.
They had no heat.
There was no fucking heat back there.
And we would go back there when it was 20 below.
No, yeah, without drinking gloves with the fingertips out with the fucking drinking
gloves and that was it.
Those are what kids do in Jersey.
You know, that's why I moved back here.
One of my daughter to have this life.
Friends, friends, people who live and die for you.
People who come over and talk to your kid at three o'clock.
This fucking basement is packed.
Once they get off the bus, they all walk down here.
I love it.
And they fucking play and they talk and I come down with apple juices and
tell them to knock it off.
Don't touch the guitar, you fucks, because the kid up the corner.
My uncle was a guitar, but I don't give a fuck.
Don't touch the guitar.
Like he's a great kid, they're great kids.
But this is my life.
This is I love this shit.
I love it. And you're right.
You know, I think this thing about for you, you know, when I look at the guys I grew
up with, they're still my best friends in the world.
And even being here in Baltimore, I'm closer to DC.
So every chance I get, you know, I'm back there with Dougie to all the guys that I
grew up with. And you know, it's I think as you get older,
especially when you start to have kids of your own, you recognize you're nothing.
Your friends, you know, it's funny.
I'm doing this show right here now that I told you about in Baltimore.
And the other day I was working nights and during the day I shot down in Baltimore
and I just I needed to go see my friend, Dougie Thornell.
I went to his house, I go, I get outside his house.
I just lean on the horn, right?
I just lean on the horn outside his house.
I see him look out the window like, who is this?
And then he sees me, he goes, what do you do?
I didn't even tell him I was coming.
I say, Dougie, I'm not going to tell you the scene, but I was doing this crazy scene.
I mean, my character, the thing that he was doing that day was nuts.
I said, hey, Dougie, this is a kid who was raised on television.
He had a milk creek that he used to sit on.
He'd sit like this far away from the television, knows every line from every movie.
And I go, Dougie, this is what I'm doing in the scene today.
Give me, what would I say?
What should I say here today?
He gave me this line.
I'm telling you, Joey, it was fine.
I mean, it was just fine.
I gave him a hug.
You know, it's like, we're nothing without them.
Like he, I would rather talk to him than any writer, any director in Hollywood.
He, you know, he gets it.
He gets it and he gets me.
You know what I mean?
It's, it's a great feeling, man.
When you could, and when I got back here, I had some friends that were
fucking jackals, you know, there's some friends that haven't stopped to fucking grind.
And I had to tell him, like, listen, guy, I ain't that type of party no more.
You know, call me when you want to changes, you know, but there's a handful of guys
that have accepted me.
We talk constantly tonight.
I'm going to a friend's house to watch the Dodger fucking San Francisco game.
You know, people like, why aren't you doing comedy?
Because I'm feeling devoid with other things right now.
I'll get back to comedy eventually.
But right now I just got, I'm in a thing that nobody knows.
I haven't seen in years.
It's called a community.
That's beautiful.
I'm part of a community.
I was at a softball game.
My daughter's softball game last night sitting on the side.
Fifteen parents that pass an entertainment's donuts around.
You know, it's a different fucking world.
I'm living for your daughter, man.
I mean, there's nothing there's that's the thing.
There's no job more important than that.
It's the it's the most important job you're ever going to have raising these kids.
It's it's the biggest gift.
It's the only chance you're really going to understand beauty.
You're going to understand failure.
You're going to understand hope.
You're going to the love is so big and so beyond anything.
And that's I imagine that's why you do it.
It could be the only reason.
And you know, I'll tell you with the old friendship thing and just in terms of that movie,
you know, I just want to say I'm glad that that's the term that you you use
because it's a really hard thing, I think, to get on screen for real.
When you see real friends, the way you joke with each other,
the way you know each other's secrets, the way you can attack each other
because you know each other so well.
And you know, Shay and I have known each other a really long time.
It's his daughter, George, a brilliant actress who was in the Punisher.
Shay and I worked together a long time ago, but we've been long term friends.
John and I have been friends for 10 years.
And the three of us, the bond was so tight.
Everybody's kids were on the movie.
Everybody who had ever played.
Well, all our circle of friends came in and did little bit parts.
You know, Kerrigan was there.
I saw Kerrigan.
He was great.
You know, they were all there.
They were all part of it.
You know, it was such a labor of love.
And I think when you when the set, you know, when you go when you approach
something with that, with that in your heart, that this should be a place
where about love and friendship and family, you know, that was how the entire
thing was run.
And I really do think it comes out on the on the screen.
It does.
It really does.
Now, which one was Shay, the guy that was in Narcos?
Yeah, the guy who plays a packy.
OK. Yeah, yeah.
The third of yeah, Shay.
Yeah. And he was, you know, he's a brilliant actor, you know, a boardwalk
empire and Wolf of Wall Street.
He's he's he's like what I mean, he's he's a genius, that guy.
He is a fucking genius.
He really is.
He's done a lot of shit.
He's worked a lot over the years.
What did you think of the many saints?
But first of all, what happened when you saw the Nero?
Anything?
Man, well, you know, you know, I gave him a hug, you know, I haven't,
you know, I haven't really seen him since since, you know, we work with him
down in New Orleans, you know what I mean?
And it was so great to see him.
And I mean, you know, I mean, that night was just so magical, you know,
him introducing it and just being in the king's presence like that.
You know, well, look, you know, I was that was my first time seeing the movie.
I was really it was such a perfect night and such a perfect audience for it.
You know, I was blown away by the work.
I was blown away.
I thought the movie was beautiful, thought it was shot beautifully.
I thought the story was great.
I thought the performances were just incredible when you look at Vera
and you look at Leslie and you look at Corey and Alessandro.
I mean, just such brilliant performances.
But I think, you know, my big takeaway, honestly, was Mikey.
It was just Mikey.
I, you know, this whole thing for me, I've been blown away
with Michael Gandolfini since I met him.
You know, he came to me before this thing started up in Ohio
and he came to me and approached this thing with so much humility
and respect and reverence and he was in this process.
He told me I'm trying to get to know his father better.
And he was sort of traveling the country, getting to talk to all these people
that had worked with him and been with him and been real friends of his.
And then, you know, he takes on this role.
And what a I mean, I mean, when you just to try to put your
your heart around the magnitude of what that must felt like for him.
You know, I was just staggered by the way he approached it the whole way
and how hard he worked and how kind he was.
He never let the pressure get to him and then go through this entire
press process of everybody asking him these questions that it's not like you and me.
Oh, so what was it like to work with Joe?
It's not like this bullshit.
You know, they're talking to him about, you know, real shit about his life
and about loss and the courage and dignity that he approached that all with.
And then you see the performance, man.
And you don't see actors that he came in with the dialect down
with the with the mannerisms down with the physicality down.
He took a big swing.
He didn't approach this like some coward.
There was nothing safe about that performance and he did it.
And I was so happy for him.
I love this kid so much.
I mean, when you think about them, you know, like I know when you think
that how old that kid is, I mean, I go to him for advice.
I mean, such a wise young man, you're such a lived young man.
And and I really that was my favorite part.
It was just seeing Michael and seeing that that worked and that Tony Soprano
will forever live in the Gandolfini family.
That is that is beautiful for me, beautiful.
I'll tell you, there's a scene in the movie that killed me.
And that's when you get out of jail and he comes up to you and says, I miss your dad.
It fucking punched me in the stomach the first, second and third time.
I saw the movie four times.
I saw the premiere, the screening and then two Q&As.
In Jersey.
And I the first two times was to watch the movie.
The second time was to focus on, you know, you just focus on the acting.
I want to learn. I'm a student, too, you know, you, too.
And it was fucking brilliant.
I looked, I loved everybody's performance.
I thought everybody did a great job, you know, and I got to be honest with you.
John, I would never say I thought I did a good job.
And I never think I did a good job.
And when I was sitting at also dawned on me, how I felt like a band,
I felt like a band because when you do your first album as a band,
that's your whole life.
That's why people have so much hard times with the second album
because they just got a year to do it.
The first time you've had 30 fucking years, cocksucker, it better be fucking good.
You know, you've had all your life to prepare this first album.
You've been preparing it for five fucking years.
And reality, that's why it's so good.
But, Joe, you were flawless in them.
I mean, you, you, you add, I mean, like when you brought to just so much
reality and then the humor and then this, this character that so lived in.
And look, man, I saw what you had, like, I remember, man,
I remember in New Orleans, you know, the state that you were in, you know,
making that. And brother, like I saw you go through this process,
how committed you were and how just present you were.
And you were, you, you, you were, you were only about that fit.
Like when we were making that movie, you were just about it.
I remember even that day, the reshoot, when we came back,
I had to make that speech and you could tell I was, you know,
I was doing another movie at the time.
I mean, the whole time I was making that movie,
I was always running off to be doing something else.
I never, I always felt like I was just coming in and, and, and you came to me.
And I don't know if you remember this, but you said, you, you settled me, man.
You came to me. You're like, you're doing great. Just stay in it.
You came in and, and you were there for me in a way that I felt that I got to be
there for you in New Orleans. What was that? 10 years ago, how?
You're that guy, you know, like you, you were an anchor. Like you,
if you wanted to look at something that you absolutely believed in that movie,
look at Joe, just go talk to Joey. It'll get you.
I mean, I even talked to him for two seconds. I start talking like you,
you know what I mean? Like that's how your personality and how,
how undeniable it is. And, uh, you should be so proud of yourself, man.
It was really your work in the movies. Phenomenal.
You know, I was like, it took me 20 fucking years to get ready for this movie.
That's right. Like I was legitimately honest with people. Like I worked 30 years,
20, I'd done comedy 30 years, 28 at the time.
I worked 28 years to get ready for this movie.
I took 28 years of comedy lessons, acting lessons, watching movies,
watching performances. You know, I was, I mean,
I was the biggest Gandalfini fan there is. I love,
I've studied all his movements. When I got the audition,
I remember that I go, I got this because I got this first piece from
watching the Sopranos. It was David Chase type audition where he didn't give you
the right lines. He only gave you one line that counted.
So I knew I had to say that one line. Right.
People had talked,
spoken to me about his audition product like Sam was on a couple of weeks ago,
a little pussy. And he was saying that he sent them an audition for like grungy.
Grungy wasn't even in the fucking movie. There was no character named Grungy.
He was fucking with you. But I knew that one line.
He had used that before in the series,
not the line, but the way he had to deliver that line.
The music was on, music was on.
So there was an episode where they're in Adriana's office
and Springsteen is on and they're about to do something.
And Tony stops and he goes, Sylvia, listen, that was for them.
That wasn't, you know what I'm saying? If you pick that up.
So with me, the scene was Sinatra. My mother met his mother.
I had to point up and go, and that was it. That was it.
And I got that from the series. I love James Gandalfini and Michael,
I think, hit it out of the park.
And what we're trying to say is he hit it out of the park in more ways than one.
That's right. This just wasn't an acting job.
This was an acting job for us.
For Michael, it was therapy.
Yeah, it was a personal challenge. It was phenomenal.
On the mountain. Yeah, I mean, it was, yeah, exactly.
I think that's a really good way to put it. I'm waiting on that.
Talk to me about the Serena Williams movie, because that movie, I'm waiting for it.
That's the movie of the year.
I have a funny feeling that I'm telling you, man, it's so special, bro.
It's this one's going to be so special.
I mean, this this the story, you know, look, man, for guys like us,
you know, I remember when I first met Ray Green, the director of the movie,
you know, he's an ex athlete like we are, you know, he's he's a he's a father.
He's a family guy and he's a really committed artist.
You know, he's a, you know, he's a he's a New York guy.
This movie is like a meditation on fatherhood and it celebrates family.
But there's nothing corny about it.
It's so real and so inspiring.
And so it's just it's beautifully and authentically made, man.
I'm it's I can't remember ever being this proud of a movie and a group of people.
Will Smith is going to blow your socks off.
I mean, he's just what he does here is just crazy.
And and and I really just everyone's work.
These these young women, all the people in the Williams family,
you know, in this movie, they just they establish.
It's like what you're talking about a band.
They just established this family dynamic and it's just real.
It's just real.
And it's it's it's a beautiful sports movie with so much heart.
And yeah, I'm really I'm really proud of you're going to love it.
I'm excited for it.
It's just, you know, told me a lot about it, Anthony Edwards.
Anthony Anderson, is that his name?
Anthony, the brother.
Yeah, the chunky brother from Hustle and Flow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He I didn't know this.
Well, he lived in LA and he said that he would walk to school and see them practicing.
Oh, yeah, they lived in LA.
I didn't know all this shit.
Yeah, they were from Compton.
You would just tell these young girls you're going to be the champion of the world.
You know what I mean?
You believe and it's this this this exercise.
He had this unique and beautiful way of parenting that was wholly his own.
And he stuck to it.
And it's about this thing.
I think that all families and all parents eventually go through that, you know,
we give so much to our kids and we try to prepare our kids and give them so much
love and so much preparation.
But at some point, we got to say, go fly, go fly.
Now you've got to make your steps and that's a hard thing to do,
especially for a parent that's been so committed to that child.
And this just whittles that down and explores it in such a beautiful, honest way.
And it's it's I'm telling you, man, the movies, the movies thrilled.
It's thrilling.
When does it come out Christmas, right?
Yeah, November, November 19th is the perfect.
It's a beautiful fucking Thanksgiving movie.
What else is going on in your world?
They should know about my brother.
Man, you know, I'm just doing my thing here in Baltimore.
You know, I got a movie coming out on on Netflix.
This thing I did with Sandra Bullock.
I think that's going to be really special.
That'll come out, I think in December.
Then I did this other thing with Lena Dunham, a real different kind of film for me,
but something I'm also really proud of, something I produced and did with her.
She's she's she's she's wonderful, man.
And, you know, then I got this new this new TV show for Showtime American Jigolo.
And then this thing I'm doing for HBO here.
We own the city, which is, you know, again, the same creators of the wire.
And it's a real it's a real special project, something I'm really honored to be a part of, man.
And, you know, I'm just doing my thing.
I'm away from my kids right now, so my heart's a little bit broken.
So I'm trying to make the most out of every second.
That's what we do, Joey.
When we're away from these kids, you know, we have to know it's their names.
We're putting on the work.
So I'm just I'm trying to put every every ounce that I got into the work
right now and and get home to them and get home to them in a way
where I can hold my head high and hopefully I get them proud.
But I miss it, man. I miss him real bad.
When do you go back?
I'll be done right before Thanksgiving, you know, perfect.
Are you going back at all?
Like in between, you know, I don't think I'm going to get the break.
I'm going to really try to get back for Halloween so I can take a trick or treat.
I got to get there. It's just, you know, we're shooting on weekends
and this one's been pretty pretty pretty tough to get away.
But but I'm definitely going to try.
I just don't, you know, I don't want to make him any promises.
But but I'm hoping with everything I got that I can get home for Halloween.
Listen, man, you're doing some great fucking work out there.
And Charles Bronson still needs a motherfucking replacement, though.
I've been over here waiting since that motherfucker died.
You know, they trying to sell you Jason Stanham.
Fuck him. He fucking did the mechanic.
You can't do that.
You got to have some respect in your career.
You can't do a Charles Bronson movie.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying you got to act like Charles Bronson and Steve McQueen put together.
You got it, dog. You're that motherfucker. I told you when I watched the Punisher,
I called you right up. There was no texting.
There was no good morning.
I was like, dog, you're the next Charles Bronson.
It's over.
You got to start shooting people at night and fucking like a death wish.
We got to remake.
Well, fucking Bruce Willis, we made death wish.
I want to shoot him now. That motherfucker.
I don't want you doing a Charles Bronson movie.
If you're going to be a Charles Bronson movie,
you got to kill double the amount of people and you got to kill them smart.
You know what I'm saying?
I can't wait to see the Sandra Bullock movie. I love Sandra Bullock.
Great, great person, great human being.
She's great in this field.
I think this movie is going to be really good.
I haven't seen that one, but I'm hearing really good things about it.
She it's time. She's got to show her monkey, though.
She's at that age.
She's got to, you know, she's done everything.
She's coached the football team.
She fucking married Ben Affleck in the one movie early on.
It's time for her to show a monkey.
It's always different. I bet you I'm going to come back and ask.
This one, I guarantee, is the side of her you haven't seen.
I love her. Don't get me wrong.
But it's everybody has to show their monkey,
even the chick from Titanic kind of show it.
You got to show that monkey, Sandra Bullock.
I want to see it.
I've been a fan for 20 years. I deserve it, you dirty bitch.
Show me that monkey.
You got that Austin shape to it and shit.
I love you, John Berthal.
Stay in touch.
I love you and let's connect.
I might drive to Baltimore if you're there till November.
Because I got John Rollo down there with the gym.
We'll go down. I need to see John.
OK, let's go get a gyro.
I know you love those fucking gyros.
I was going to take you for one up here.
You got some great fucking gyros when we were shooting the many saints.
You took care of it, Joe.
Oh, fuck. And how's Lauren doing?
Lauren's good. Head of security, man.
She's good. She's not with me on this one.
I just got Bambam.
She's Lauren's getting married.
She met a wonderful guy.
He's got like, you know, they're surfing.
They're out in this band. They're doing their thing.
And I'm sure she says love, man.
She loves it. Everybody loves you, Joe.
I love her to death.
So take good care of yourself.
Keep putting out great fucking films.
You're one of the best actors out there.
And you're my brother. I love you to all my heart.
Always right back at you, Joey.
I love you. Stay black. I'll see you in the next couple of weeks.
I appreciate you. Love you, brother.
Thank you. Thank you, Joe. Thank you.
I'm happy you guys like John.
John's a great guy.
If you're an actor, look up John.
Study John. Copy John.
John learned how to fucking act in Russia.
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go to the original church of what's happening now when John was on.
I'm happy you guys love John today.
Thank you for watching the show.
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So if I was you guys, I'd get it.
It's a great movie.
You don't have to go to the fucking movies.
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I watched the movie twice.
I'm going to watch it again tonight.
So enjoy it. Enjoy the weekend.
I'm happy you motherfuckers are here.
Thank you. Thank you for everything you do.
Thank you for your support.
Thank you for always having my back.
I love you guys with all my heart.
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