Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #131 | DOMENICK LOMBARDOZZI | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ

Episode Date: January 17, 2022

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It's colder than fuck out there. Not really. They said it was the fucking weather people love to scare fucking America. They started torturing us like last Tuesday. Big snowstorm. I woke up this morning. I woke up Sunday morning fucking dick. I'm waiting for fucking, you know, a snowman out there. It was nothing. The sun was out with 24 fucking degrees. It could still snow. Then it got cloudy. Then towards the end of the day started raining. Now today we got a little slush out there. Nothing too fucking serious.

But it's still a motherfucking beautiful day to be alive. I had a great fucking weekend hanging out with my family. I called a little jujitsu class on Saturday. I worked out Friday night. Had a nice dinner with Jimmy and the boys. We had some Chinese food over at Empire motherfucking Szechuan. Tremendous. You understand me? I gained a couple pounds, but I shit them out the last few days. I was backed up from the COVID when I threw the fucking kitchen sink at it. My stomach was fucked up. I had to drink probiotics for a few days.

And then I went and I deadlifted and everything fucking came out. I'm still not at fighting weight. I'm probably like five pounds over, but I'm tip top motherfucking McGorm on my way. I want to tell you guys something. I've been getting questions from a lot of you guys. Send them emails, ask me about that. You saw a journal on Instagram or some shit that says, you know, you could, it's a homemade journal, whatever, and it has different things to get you enthused and all this stuff. I looked at it guys. It's $48 fucking dollars for a notebook with directions.

If you want, I'll take $28 and I'll send you a notebook with a picture of my nutsack in it or some shit like that. Are you fucking retarded? You ain't paying $48 for a fucking notebook to journal. That's not going to happen right now. It's the same thing. It's just like as you check in, like it's social fucking media. Listen, journaling is journaling. It's just sitting there in the morning and dumping whatever in your fucking heart, whatever is hanging on a fence that's bothering you. Maybe you lost an hour sleep over it.

You know, a couple of last week there was a night where I got an email from an agent and I looked at it and I go, I don't know what the fuck he's looking at. And that night I slept well. I slept like seven hours, but I could have slept like nine and I got up early and I was like, that's what's bothering me. It wasn't bothering me. It was just that he sent an email. It didn't bother me at all. But I journaled about it that morning and I felt a lot better. And it's so weird that afternoon I started getting emails and I got like two emails and they're like, this is journal on Instagram. Is that what you're talking about?

No, I'm talking about go to fucking CVS and buy a notebook, buy a three fucking chapter notebook. The ones with the binders, the first chapter is, you know, buy four of them because you're going to need one for every quarter. So the first one is like your daily routines, what you, you know, you're journaling. What's going on with you? Maybe you're thinking about your mother or something like that. Maybe your father, maybe your girlfriend cheated on you. Write down the specifics, break it down, read it. That's what the therapy part of it is. You're reading it. Once you read it back, it should make you feel a certain way.

And you don't read it that day. You read it a couple of fucking days later at the end. Like I read all mine on Friday, on Friday morning. I write my journal on that night for like 10 minutes. It takes, you just go through it. I write a page a fucking day. It's that easy. I don't want you to spend 48 fucking dollars for a notebook. Chapter two could be your fucking goals. You know, I want to do better at jujitsu. I want to lose 20 pounds. I want to go back to school. What do I need to do to go back to school? Well, I got, even if it's that simple, I don't give a fuck. That's that simple.

I want you to break it down into steps so you know exactly what steps you've conquered. I got to get my GD. I got to get my mother to sign on the school loan. You know, I got to do all this fucking thing, but you don't want it to rattle in your head. So just write it down. Hey, I don't give a fuck. If you think I'm retarded, I do that. I just write it down. What do I need to write a book? I got to outline. I got to think of the stories and I got a journal because I got to figure out what stories I want to use and what, you know, how does this apply to my fucking story? So I do all this shit and I've been doing it for, I think this is 1994 when Jim Handy taught me how to do it.

I usually would put Jim Handy on the podcast this time of the year. I did it about, you know, three years in a row when I first started the podcast. It's not that he wrote a book on goals or anything. He just read it and he turned me on to it in a way that it helped me throughout. It helped me with fucking comedy, you know, like it makes you, how do you get better at this? Well, I got to go to 55 fucking sets a month. But when I did stand up every fucking beginning of the month, I pull open a page. What do I want from this month? Okay, this month I want to book a guest star and then I would, that would be one. Then A and B would be, what do I need to do to book that eggshell?

I need to go online and see what's going on. I need to send more pictures. I need to get my reel in order, put fucking this on it, take this off. You know, you don't want to send the reel. It's you in 2004, completely different with blonde hair. It's not going to get you to fucking job. So it's little things like that. What can I do for comedy? I got to write five minutes a day. I got to put together 15 minutes every weekend. When you keep yourself to the fucking grind that hard, results will come. But if you monitor them, the growth is fucking tremendous.

The other day I was at Jiu Jitsu and after Jiu Jitsu went to get something next door to eat at Bagel Boy on the 516. That motherfucker, they ain't fucking around in there. Not that I ate it, but it's fucking good. I ate it last time. I'm trying to cut down this time. Last time I went in there, I had a double chicken cutlet sandwich on Italian with American cheese, fucking bacon and French dressing. That puts it over the fucking top. That is a tremendous sandwich with a schnapple iced tea. Stop. Where you going to get that type of love from? You understand me? Bagel Boy on the 516, they ain't fucking around, dog.

If you want to be a fat fuck, they got the answer. But I usually, when I go with the guys after fucking Jiu Jitsu, I got a cucumber salad. I don't eat the cucumbers, I just inhale the onions and I tell them to give me extra fucking tomatoes. I ain't stupid. Those cucumbers are alright if you're going to put them on your eyeballs or something like that. Which I need to put one of those motherfuckers on my eyeball. I'm getting fucking uglier and older by the fucking day. Now that I started getting high again, guys, it's every man to himself. I'm back to my, if you're not high before two o'clock, go fuck your mother campaign.

I'm back on it. I already got high this morning at 11 o'clock. I'll get high when I come back from the gym. I added fucking smoke and dope before I go on the treadmill. It used to take, like it used to struggle to get me to 30 minutes. I see the weights and I'm like, I should be lifting. Oh, Friday night, I got super stoned. I did like three hits off that freeze pipe, the bubbler. And I went down and I put AC DC Power Rage on from beginning to end. I did the whole 40 minutes fucking from kicked in the teeth again, sin city.

I got to tell you something, AC DC Power Rage is a bad motherfucking album. I was looking for it today to make it the album of the week on Patreon. I don't think I have it. I think I lent it to somebody, but that's a bad motherfucking album. I downloaded it from iTunes on my phone. So I put the little earplugs in and I just walked like a gooch. But I got to tell you something, man, when you fucking walk on that treadmill, after you hit that pipe three times, first of all, I've always been a firm believer, especially for me, especially for me that you have to.

I smoke a little bit before I go to the gym, but the last year and a half I haven't been doing it. I want to be a nice person. I didn't want to walk in there smoking like Cheech and Chong. But now, like if I have to go to the gym at 11, I smoke like a 20 to 11, drink a little fucking liquid IV, the cherry, the grape flavor, tremendous. And I had to taste like Pedialyte, you know what I'm saying? But you drink it, it's good for you. I started drinking it when I had the fucking COVID, the liquid IV, tremendous. I love the fucking cherry and I love the grape.

I go down there. What do you, Joey, we don't give a fuck about grape drink. Tell us something we don't know about. It's Monday, motherfuckers. Listen, I started watching a wire a few weeks ago and I'm fucking blown away. Like I love good TV. I love all this shit. But I started watching a wire and I was watching me and my wife watching two episodes a night. In fact, last week one day I broke my rule and we even watched one like before dinner.

Like we're like, we can't even wait for that episode. Let's see what the fuck happened to Kima. So I mean, when you like a show this much, it just blows me away. So, you know, I go on, I'm a fucking nerd for TVs and shit. I go on IMDB and I fucking read who's in the mood and I realized my buddy was in it. Dominic Lombardozi, fucking good friend of mine. I love him with all my heart. You know, I had Dominic on last year and a lot of you guys, I was in shock because you weren't responsive to it.

But then again, I was out of my mind. My interview and skills were low and I usually interview somebody when I have something specific. Like a lot of people always said to me, Joey, can I get on the podcast and I go, give me a week or two so I can think about what angle to attract you. And then there's some people that I just, like when I had Chris shift on, I didn't have an angle. I didn't know much about the Foo Fighters and how they got together and what planet they came from. So there's situations like that where you learn not to have something on the podcast unless you really, really know their background or you're really, really a fan. I've always been a fan of Dominic Lombardozi, but I called him up the other day. I said, Dom, I'm watching the wire again.

I'm fucking blown away. I want to tap into some of the, you know, the details of the wire and stuff like that. And he said, absolutely. So without further ado, it's my main man. It's Monday, a little Monday chat with Dominic Lombardozi and I'll be back in a little while to wrap it up. And then I come Wednesday and do the solo one and talk to you about my hemorrhoids with you people want to hear. But today it's me and fucking Dominic. I hope you enjoy this little chit chat about the wire.

Stay black. There he is. What's the story, Dom? Happy New Year, my brother. Happy New Year. Welcome to Uncle Joey's joint Monday morning. How are you, my friend? Good, man.

You fucking put in the pieces together. You know, it was a long, I'm fucking trying. I gained some weight after the COVID because I started drinking cranberry juice and army. I don't drink fucking juice anymore. They told you 10 years ago to drink juice. So I gained a couple pounds. But you know what? Jiu Jitsu walking around.

I love the treadmill. And that's it. Just trying. I'm enjoying fatherhood for the first time. I'm happy for you. It's, uh, it's, it looks so, you look so relaxed. Yeah, that's it. Like, I don't want to say like, you don't, you don't have a care in the world because

I know, I know we all do. We all do. Do you, you, you radiate that, you know, that's out there. You know, you exude that. So it was a long time. It's nice just to fucking be a human being. Yeah. I was never a fucking human being as sad as that is.

I was always, you know, and then comedy and then, you know, I got a girlfriend and then you feel half a human and then she talks into using your insurance. And, uh, you know what I'm saying? You got insurance. Go take care of yourself. Yeah. Oh, you mean I could use this? Yeah.

Yeah. So it's like been a great fucking journey. I'll tell you what, I never thought I'd say this, but it's great to be back on the east coast and the story. No, um, we, we've had some sidebar conversations, you know, and, uh, I didn't think you were going to come back east. I actually thought you were going to do like that migration, like to Texas or with Florida or whatever, where people are going and, uh, uh, I'm happy you're comfortable.

You just seem happy. And if you're happy, I'm happy. I had a feeling that what was about to happen, you needed to be grounded by family. Yeah. Now I have no family, but the kids, I grew up with a family. I got two guys, 20 minutes from here. I got a guy around the corner. I see them every couple of days, but we talk every day and they keep me grounded.

My daughter's Godfather. I grew up with. It's just nice. I'm nice around the people that when they tell you something, you know, they're going to do it. They're not blowing smoke up your ass. It's just nice. It's very nice, man.

So it's, I never thought I'd be back here. I never fucking saw it. Well, I mean, you know, I, I, I, I personally could understand why, you know, um, sometimes it's hard going back where you grew up. You know, there's a reason why we wanted to leave, you know, um, I get it. I get it without going into details because I know your history. I, you know, and if anybody follows, uh, Joey knows his background, knows how he grew up, knows about his family, knows about his neighborhood and, uh, could understand why he possibly wouldn't

go back. I couldn't be in that neighborhood, but I could be close by. And now my deli closed. Yeah. The fucking, the one, my childhood deli closed about 10 years ago. So we transferred over to a different deli, guys, tremendous Tony, great guy. And now he closed his deli. So it's like a, I don't even need to go up there anymore.

I just sit down here, but I got to be honest with you. During this pandemic, I've dipped into every well I can to stay entertained as a comic. I watched all the specials, then you go through the Netflix stuff and then you go through the Sopranos again and all the shit, the Punisher. I watched some great shows. We're sitting here about three weeks ago and my wife goes, this fucking wire is sticking out on, on HBO. Did you ever watch it?

And I go Terry with comedy and drugs. I don't know what the fuck I watched. I had to, and I'm going to tell you what happened to me. Yeah. Like we're comedy and the drugs and the weed. I don't know what the fuck I was right in. Yeah. Don't worry.

I was, I was lost Dominic and then me and my wife had a talk and she's, I go, Terry, how is this 2002 to 2008? And she's like Joey. Yeah. Yeah. You got to remember HBO was on fire and she started reading off you guys, the wire, Sopranos, Sex in the City, Carnival. She just started spitting out all these shows, you know, that HBO had.

So I, I got caught. If you think I watched the pilot of Sopranos in the first season, I was in Cleveland, making fucking crazy people laugh. I didn't fucking know. So I played catch up the whole time. I remember what this is how fucked up I was in the drugs and life. I remember watching the wire, but I got it confused with one of those NBC shows. I think did you get it confused with the shield?

No, the other one with a lot of people. I think people come up to me and man, I love you on the shield. Oh my God. That's the ball guy. That's the worst when people get you confused from a movie. With Chick-Las. Yeah. Yeah.

With Chick-Las. No, no, this was the one with. I'm not even kidding. It happens all the time. Oh, I could just imagine. I was lying. I'm not lying. I can fucking imagine.

And when people want to believe what they want to believe. When people would come up to me, I had a couple of ones that told me I was a liar. That was big pussy. And started arguing with me on a set of fucking Spider-Man. I'm on the set of Sony and these family walks by and they take a double take. They're doing like the tour of Sony. They were from Brooklyn or something. I'm not him.

I'm sorry. I'm Joey Diaz. They kept turning around looking at me going, fuck you. You're a fucking embarrassment to Italian. Say who the fuck you are. I'm like, you want to see my license? No, it's a phony. They thought I was really pissed off.

So in all this hoopla, I started watching the wire. I knew you were in it. I got it confused with some show on NBC with the guy with the bad skin. The fucking comedian that was in Scarface. He was on SVU with me. We got into an argument on the set and they fucking asked him to go home because he got, like, I was a 400 pounds. He's trying to pull me off from under a car on a worst sled, but there's snow on the floor. I'm telling him an ice cube.

Look, I'm stuck on the fucking tire here. And he kept pulling. He's like, I'm going to hurt my back. You're fucking shit. I'm going to relax. We got into a little argument, even though I knew him. And then he's a comedian. Yeah.

He was in Scarface. He read the fucking thing when Tony was in the car. He was the one that was on stage. Bowser, Richard Bowser. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I got all that shit confused. And then anyway, we put the fucking wire on.

And by episode five, we were both hooked. The pilot was the first episode was fucking tremendous. It just takes you there. And then after episode five, we looked at each other and said, what the fuck is this? And now we're on episode with season three. And I'm like, I got to call a fucking dog. Yeah. That's a hamster.

And break this shit down for me. And then we're going to come back when this, when I finish the season and break it down for me again. How did you book this? How did you find out about this? Give me a fucking process here. Okay. Um, 2000, uh, uh, 2021.

No, 2000, 2001. Because yeah, I remember I just got back from Paris or something like that. And, and, um, there was the audition for this thing. Now, originally they were recurring characters. Herc and Culver were recurring characters. So I, I, I went, I read for Alexa Fogel. There was one producer. Um, his name is Robert.

You see his name all over the place. Um, Robert F. Colesbury. Beautiful human being, great producer, produce movies like the natural. Um, and he also produced 61 that I did with Billy Crystal. Okay. Maybe three years prior to that. And so that's the only familiar name I knew on this. So I went in, I read, they called me back and I wind up getting the part audition, auditioned

again, and I got it. Now, mind you, not a regular recurring. Supposed to be, maybe who knows, does five episodes, six, but he's doing the pilot. We went there and went to Baltimore. Um, it looked like a bomb hit the place. I mean, well, Baltimore looks like now did not look like in 2001. No. Very much like the show.

Very, very much. You know, actually not even sugarcoating it. That's what it was. And, um, all the actors from day one, from day one, when we were all in that hotel, I've never forget the redness, uh, the red, uh, the red Renaissance hotel, um, in Baltimore. Um, we all got along. We all got along and it continued for five seasons. You all got along, man.

I'm telling you, we were like a family. We stayed like a family till this day. It shines through. It comes through. Yeah. And then I remember doing the show. I remember shooting the pilot. Like this.

I don't know. Uh, you know, I don't know if this is going to get picked up. Yeah, you know, I remember doing the ride alongs and, and the first time they, they made us do a ride along was with the homicide cops. I'm like, this is not like what we're doing. So they put us with these narks and, and totally different ballgame, two ways of policing, completely different, completely, uh, completely different animal. And I said, all right.

And me, me and set who plays carver, um, did our thing, you know, and then when the show wind up getting picked up, we live together the first season, the same apartment, like a college dorm who came in who want to smoke weed. You smoke weed. You stayed over there. You want to play mad and you stayed over there. You wanted to just drink and bullshit. You stayed at the table.

That's what it was. Our door was always open to everybody. And, and when I went to work with Seth, it just was, it was like, uh, it was like this, uh, okay. And we just was easy. Not that it was easy, but working with Seth was easy. Laughing, joking. We understood each other.

We, we understood each other's timing. It just, that's the way that's, it just was a great, that was my college. That was my college when it came to acting. I was never formally trained. I was never institutionally trained. Uh, I was institutionally trained. Yeah. A couple of brothers taught me how to act in there.

I just, um, you know, acting is weird. You know, you, you, you, you act with people who, who have degrees and acting, you know, and, and, and all that. So that just wasn't my, my route. But I always tell people who are old enough if they remember the apex tech for school. Yes. Uh, commercial apex guy. Yeah.

No, you remember the guy? Yeah. You learn a trade. You learn a tool. When you learn the tool, it goes in your toolbox. Remember that? Yes. That's what acting was for me.

Exactly. Just like that. And, uh, the wire was college. The way the talented people, I couldn't believe it. All the people in there. That was strong. Yeah. They were all much more experienced than me.

And I, and I had to figure things out. I had to figure things out and I had to figure them out quick. Last night, just to let you know about setting you last night, you're sitting in a car. You're waiting for the longshoreman to make a move and you're eating. And you're like, I'm done with Mike. Can I get some of your fries? And he goes, what do you mean? And also you started eating his fries and he goes, you know what?

You're a fat fuck. And you're like, you think I'm fat. Just kidding. But while you're saying it to him, you're eating the fucking fry. You think I'm bad? And I'm dying to laugh them right there. I'm like, no, okay. So in a way, cause you guys are a comic relief.

You are, but I didn't, I loved how they used you. Yeah. I loved how they used your comic relief. You know, I loved all that shit when, oh my God, when you took the deposit for the 1200 and you put the bug in the ball and the ball got run over by the fucking truck. Oh my God. Oh my God. All that shit.

It balances. It's like, I really love the writing. The fucking writing was. Look at the names. Look at the names of the writers as the episodes pass you by. And you're like, he wrote an episode for this show. Richard Price. Dennis Lahane.

George Pelicanos. I mean, these guys are just over my, you know, that's just like David was, has, has such a great system. I love working on his production, whether it's, whether, whether it's the wire or whether it was the deuce or what I did a day, he called me to, to, to come and do a day on, we own this city. And I just look because it's on the page, man. It's on the page and you just have to finesse it or bring whatever colors you want to it

or whatever your process is and, and that's what it is. And, but there's something to be said when the Bible is right and on the wire, the Bible was right, you know, um, but whichever avenue you took to get that through whatever you needed to, to, to, uh, to bring it to the, to, to the forefront, that's up to you. But it's on the page. I mean, um, one of my favorite scenes, uh, is the scene where I console or I wouldn't say console, but it's probably the only time in retrospect that you see her be kind is with Bodie's grandmother when they raid and they're turning.

Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Real early in the show. Yeah. You go and see what the fuck were you doing in there? Right. You were very gentlemen.

And you know what? I remember getting shaken down by cops in time and there was one cop that came back and he goes, Hey, we're sorry about this. You know, not, not impersonal, but the show is very unapologetic. As you watch this show, you're going to realize, um, people don't change. People are who they are. You know, you watch a show and a lot of people sort of have this epiphany and they change their life and all their bad qualities of miraculously gone.

It doesn't happen in this world. It does not happen. I played a character for five years who more or less was a bully when he needed to be who worked outside of the lines. Yes. He tried, he was doing it to bring down drug dealers. You know, it's not like he was doing it to rob old ladies or whatever, but it doesn't justify what he was doing.

He wasn't able to work within the guidelines in order to make a case or bring up a wire. But if you notice and that we could, we could have this conversation when you finish the cause you're going to say, oh, you know, hurricane cover that fuck ups that this that that, but I have a rebuttal for that sometimes because I've heard it enough time, but, um, there's no hope in the show. Anybody who represents hope doesn't make it. And you see that you're on season three. You're with Hamster.

Damn. Bunny Colvin has been introduced. I think it's just Robert F wisdom, who you should definitely have on your pod because I mean, even his history, Rossifarian and and Bob Marley. I mean, I'm mad. I don't even want to give it away, but, um, I would, I would love to facilitate that for you because you should have them on your show. I love Kima.

And I'll help you out any way. I love Kima, but Kima, I love Kima. I like what she's going through right now with the, with the fucking wife and the, the she's pregnant. She don't want to be a cop. And then on the other end, you got the smooth chief, the, the, the, the thin brother that could pass and his going through the same thing with his wife and my heads. I'm watching this going.

I've never seen a show where they're showing you what's going on at home as a cop. Joey, did you realize this, um, this show is, it shows everybody, every race, every class, everybody in all different stages, whether you could be white and corrupt. You could be white in the nice part. You could be on the street and have a heart. You could have a badge or the credentials, all the stripes on your sleeves and be the, be just as bad as the person that you're trying to incarcerate. You could be a politician.

You'll get to that later, but you see it. You see the breakdown. You see the breakdown of the social fabric because the show is the star of the show. The star of the show is Baltimore. Baltimore represents every little American city in the United States. You understand? Yes. So that is why that show resonated, should have resonated back then and it resonates

even more so today. It's, I'm watching it and it's like it happened yesterday. Let's get that out of the way. It's like it's timeless and that is David, David Simon, Nina, big shout out to Ed Burns, Robert F. Colesbury, all the writers, all the producers who have played on that show and they're a genius. Now let's get to the other side of this because let me tell you something. To fill that void, whoever did the casting, I'll suck his dick or her dick.

The casting is still. Wait, you don't know, you don't know Alexa Fogo? No, I'm a, I like that. To me, you had to submit a tape to Alexa Fogo. Oh my God. Oz. No. Never was.

Old, old Tom Fantana stuff. Nothing. She is. Nothing. New York. She's New York. So you have to cast that show. When I see that chubby black dude with the dredge that's a drug deal, like a kingpin in

his own that proposition Joe, proposition Joe, the casting on him. So he passed away, but God bless. Beautiful. So I'm fucking real the acting on that dude, unreal his look, the casting when he's eating. Yeah. You know, it just shows. I mean, the acting. Come into the picture.

Who? Snoop. No, Snoop. Not yet. With Omar? Not yet. Snoop Dogg? No, the girl Snoop.

No, she hasn't been in yet. No, you're in for something. Yeah, we haven't even gotten to fucking Omar. I decided early on, with all the television I've watched, everything, movies, I think one of my favorite fucking bad guys right now. Hands down. Is Omar, when he comes into the projects

and he goes, oh, the big bad wolf. And he's like, don't make me come up there. He cocks the shotgun and it's like a six second. Now, like maybe a 20 second pause and you're like, why isn't anybody shooting this motherfucker from a window? But instead a bag of crack falls out of a fucking window and lands next to him. And you're like, holy fuck.

The writing is second to none. I like that they didn't make the long shawm in Italian. That would have been the easy route. They didn't. And that's not the case in Baltimore. In Baltimore, right. It's not the case. They made them Polish and whatever.

Greek, I like all, don't. And even then, the guy that played the Greek has been in a thousand things. Who, the old man? The old man. Which guy are you talking about? Glasses that they want to see him all the time. The long shawm and want to keep seeing him.

And finally he shows up. An old guy. He was on Miami. Are you talking about Paul Ben Victor or Bill Raymond? I don't know. The Greek. Then there's a little guy that he was in Casino. Oh, no, he was in the Irishman.

He was in the Irishman. The dude, there's two dudes that play the Greek. The one dude is the one that talks. My boy, everybody loves Raymond. And Pacino to invest in his hotel in Vegas. Come on. What can we do here for us? The guy that you.

You see, you remember when you played in the Three Stooges as well. I thought that's where you were going. No, no, no, no, I'm a Three Stooges. I love all that shit. Channel six, Miami in the summers. I'd be in a photo. Watch my boy.

Now, the actual Greek, the guy who is the Greek, Bill Raymond. I just finished working with the he played my father on. I did a show, a limited series for HBO called Mrs. Fletcher. And he played my dad. Tony, it's crazy. And I worked with him 20 years ago. You know, just everybody in there, the guy that plays. The longshoreman that the cop wants to take down.

That guy, I've seen him do some great fucking work. Yeah, you know, everybody in that movie, everybody in that TV show is doing great work. And here's where, like after the last week's episodes, I watched with my wife, we actually had a discussion that. This show might be as good as the fucking Sopranos. If you're looking at it from what I'm standing. It's debatable. It depends what your preference is.

Very debatable. But the writing is second to none. The way they go into the show. Different fucking completion. That's why that's why when people come up to me and they say that, I just basically look, I don't I don't really classify things like that. I don't know. I don't know. Just because. Hey, I don't know.

It just it just makes me feel a little uneasy to know. I know there are shows that I like. That I love, whether they be the Honeymooners, the odd couple. Game of Thrones, Sopranos, Mad Men. See, I think Mad Men is a genius. That's a good show. My wife. It's more my wife's. He turned me on to it. And then, you know, sitcoms, I love sitcoms.

Mike and Molly, everybody loves Raymond. You know, I just love watching people act. I love. I love filming. I love TV. I love watching people act. When it's something that like when I watch the Y, I'm learning. I'm taking notes, not that I'm going to work, you know, anytime soon, but I'm taking notes. I did it.

I'm looking. I'm going, Jesus Christ. Look, you know, the thing that opens me up to I love watching stuff that opens me up and takes me away while I'm watching. And I still remember going to cop weed on one hundred and seventy eight than Amsterdam and there were Cubans in 1984. And I'm like, I would go there every day. And one day they saw me speaking English. They didn't think I spoke. I was talking English.

And the one guy came on and he's like, Hey, you you want to sell a nickel box for us? I go, Yeah, why not? And I stood out there for like a week until I realized that I was getting twenty five dollars for every twenty five nickel bags that I sold. I had to sell twenty five nickel bags when I make twenty five dollars. And I'm like, what the fuck are they doing? So one day I went there, he gave me my twenty five nickel bags and I'm going to go up the block and catch the people by the light.

The guy goes, that's a good idea. I went up by the light. He goes, you go up there. It was like 10 in the morning. I sold three bags and I just kept walking to the hundred seventy eight to the to the poor authority. I stopped at fucking the gambling joint upstairs. I lost 20 and I got on the bus back to Jersey. Then I have a cop over there and then I went to San Francisco

and I lived the block away from the hate Ashbury. And again, they were all Cubans that come over in Mariel and I spoke English to like help us out. So I'm on a corner with these guys hiding coke in the bumpers, hiding weed in the bumpers. Fuck. And it was there was a trans, not a trans. He was a guy, a Cuban dude that only fucked half trannies like Cuban ones that just put makeup on and they put like two bags for their tits.

And he would have them out there slinging. Right. So you went up to him, gave him the ten bucks and he would have two men dressed as women slinging with a wig on and heels and the whole thing. And if they fucked up, he would backhand them and the wig would fall off. It was fucking tremendous. It was right off the show. So when I watched this shit, I remember like, oh, my God, this is as real as it fucking gets. Yeah, I mean, that that sort of lifestyle

has been kind, I don't want to say it's been like romanticized, but the streets, anybody who's been in the streets, anybody who's who's been in their car three, 34 o'clock in the morning and not been in the best neighborhood really knows what goes down. So really scary shit goes down to some like I mean, I've seen a lot, you know, and you're like, how do you come back? You don't come back to being treated like that and they have to.

You know, you have to do these people have to. Even like watching. It's sad, man. Even watching Michael B. Jordan in there. Like, you're still friends with him. Like he was 12, 13, 14, 15, whatever the fuck. I'm like, wow, look at the acting. No wonder this kid became who he was. This guy was around fucking.

So the show just fucking rattles me. I love you with all my heart, but it makes me love you more like, you know, my wife and I were talking and Mercy was in the room. So we were watching. You know, I can't have my daughter in the room for a while. No, no, no, no, but it gets it gets richer, Joe. See, at season three, season four, it, you know, season two, a lot of us were light.

Season one, we were very heavy season two was predominantly the, the, the, the longshoremen and all that. And a lot of us didn't have much to do. Like, if you notice in the second season, I'm doing a lot of surveillance. We're in the car, we're on the boxes. We're here, which was kind of a blessing in the skies, because we got to work every day, all the time we, every time we came to work,

we did second unit with Robert F. Colesbury. And then Bob winded up passing away during season two, going into season three, which by the way, we never knew we were going to have because HBO was never really that hot with the wire, you know, so David always had to pull the rabbit out of the hat. And we had some supporters there, like Carolyn Strauss at the time, who really believed in the show. And I, and we, we kept getting another season, but it was like, oh, we're done.

That's it. Very much in the shadows of a lot of those shows at the time, you've mentioned a few, you know, like six feet under Sopranos, Sex in the City. When Sex in the City was on, Sopranos was on, Six Feet Under was on, any other. You didn't know about it. Nobody knew about the wire when we were doing it. It wasn't until later on and then we, the show had never got nominated, never, David, I, I don't think David got

nominated, I mean, he won a Peabody Award, but he never got nominated. Michael K. never, Idris, Wendell Pierce, I mean, Wendell, how many things have I seen Wendell Pierce in? Everywhere. He's beautiful. I too. Yeah, I love him. Never met a very, very dear friend of mine.

A very dear friend of mine. Send them my love. I'm a big fucking fan of his. I think he's beautiful. The bunk. He makes me laugh, you know, he's great. He's, and he's a beautiful human being, man. And the other African American detective, God damn, he's good.

The one that figures shit out in the beginning. In the first season, he's like the quiet guy he collects. He makes and he was in the pawn shop division. That guy is a velvet fucking hammer. And that's what I like. I like to see acting. I don't want to go see no offense to anybody. Antonio Banderas, I expect him to be a fucking good actor.

But when you put a cast like that together, I know some guys and I don't know some guys. And guess what? The guys I don't know, I'm falling in love with, a.k.a. Oh, so watch Euro last night. To what? Which one? I'm a win. Antonio Banderas.

No, I'm just thinking about some dude that's Spanish and nobody will come back at me and say, hey, Latinos and shit. Fucking people. He could have picked he came out with Antonio Banderas. You know, because I remember I was on a plane one time with Rogan and he was passed the fuck out. Rogan gets on a plane and passes out. If you think, oh, my God, you got him for two minutes.

I've seen him pass before the plane takes off. Really? Yeah. And then he'll wake up mid-flight and he'll go on a computer for a couple of minutes. He won't touch the food and he'll go back to bed. So he would get his food and I'd get mine. I'd eat mine, pick at his and then one day on a trip back, if you have to hunt this blog down,

I blew a fart next to him on a fucking plane in first class that smelled like 10 dead bodies. And it was one of those hot farts and he came out of a coma. It was that bad that he woke up out of a coma to look at me all weird. Like, you know, people look at you when they're in a deep sleep and they smell so like it must have gone into his soul. And he's looking around and when he looked on the screen

and Tonya Banderas was dancing with a bunch of black kids in Harlem, some movie he made. And the next day, Rogan wrote on a blog, fucking Diaz needs to go see a doctor. He farted, he woke me up. And when I went to look, oh, my God, he goes, I went to look and it was Antonio Banderas dancing with a bunch of fucking urban kids as I was dying to laughter.

What do you normally do? Like, if you have a long flight, like say you have a 10 hour, 11 hour flight, I've never had those. I can't handle that shit. I jump out of a fucking plane. So if you had to fly from New York to Hawaii, what would you do? Stop in LA first? I would break it up.

You know, I'd break it up a little bit. I don't want to be in a fucking plane for 11 fucking hours. So I go to LA, break it up a little bit, maybe get something to eat at the airport, go outside, smoke a half a number, breathe a little bit and go back in and get on the flight. Go back to security. Yeah, two hours, two hour delay is perfect. I don't give a fuck.

That back is going to hurt anyway. So you better walk around the airport for two hours, get something to eat. They got a couple good places to eat at LAX. Then you shoot to Hawaii on the flight to Hawaii, though. That's when you put the Mickey in the thing. If you got Rufi's every man for himself, you know what I'm saying? Because you want to sleep that last six gets on you. You could read.

I could watch two episodes and not goes to wires and look through my emails and shit for a little while, maybe switch the news on the plane. And then that's it. I'm ready to get the fuck off the plane. Yeah, I time it in my head. So I go to LA, I get off, I walk around, take a piss, maybe buy a Disney shirt. I'm not leaving the airport.

I'm not leaving the fucking airport. That's not going to happen. And then I get back on the plane. Why not? Why wouldn't you in today's LA in today's LA? No. In today's LA. No, oh, I would land in Vegas for a detour and go Vegas to Hawaii and get a nice steak stretch out. All you need is a two hour stretch out.

I want to get to Hawaii and get this party started. Right. So I need to stretch out, maybe a couple of wonton soup. Get back on the plane and that's when you dose that motherfucker. That's when you give that indian that gin, you know what I'm saying? We're going deep for fucking because I was going to take my family to Hawaii. Everybody goes to Hawaii. But when I went online, it was six hours or five and a half hours from California. I'm from LA. Yeah.

And I'm like, I'm not going through this shit. I'd rather go to New York anyway. I got to go down there and get a fucking attack by a shark. Yeah. But when are you going to that flight? I've done that flight a few times. It's a great flight, but I'd rather get off and stretch my body. I've done it from New York to Hawaii.

OK, straight, straight. Eleven. Eleven. Yeah, about eleven. Yeah, eleven, eleven hours and fifteen minutes. You cocktail. Yeah. Couple cocktail. Yeah, I see I don't cocktail. So it would be horrible for me to, you know, like if I cocktail, there would be I could see me fucking light and everybody got to do it in first

class, you got to have the pod, you got to lay down. I mean, no, I definitely would take a jet blue, whatever that that's what I would do. The other thing, if you're flying from New York, there's not that many flights that fly out there. I think there's only United and Hawaii, Hawaiian airlines that go direct. There are a few other ones that that do stops, multiple stops. But then, you know, that that's jumps it up to like 16 hours. I got to ask you one thing when, you know, it's 2002 to 2008.

We're talking about 2022. And I know that we have different feelings for work we've done. How you felt about something when you went on a set in 2005 is completely different. In 2022, you look at that as a different movie. Maybe it was a grown when you look back at your work in the wire. What do you say to yourself? I don't look at my work, I think of the experience. I think of the people that I met, the relationships that I still hold to today.

I cherish those. I'm grateful for those at the work. I don't know. I don't know. I really work was beautiful from what I've seen already. The work is beautiful. I could see how I know that if anybody would go on that show for five years, whatever you think you walked in there, you walk out a different fucking soldier.

And, you know, you got to what's that expression? You got to sharpen with metal. If you want to be metal, that show was as metal as it gets. I don't think there was a weak link. I'm looking now for a weak link and I can't find it. The kid that sells the Coke is a little African-American partner. Everybody is fucking like everybody. It gets richer.

OK, I'm listening. We're going to have you back in a couple of weeks back. Yeah, this, especially this season, I think you're going to find very interesting. Only because of your past, because of places you have traveled, things that are trying to be implemented in this season. I don't want to give anything away. No, I'm looking forward to it. I really, really think you're going to dig this season.

And I know for a fact, season one and season four of my favorites. OK, I tell you that. Maybe not by seeing it, but by by work, my work experience, those those seasons. And I almost have like a photograph, like. But. Because I'm dyslexic, I read things and I understand them very clear because I read them slow and I have to read them multiple times. But I remember, I remember the storylines.

I remember the A story like B story line, the C story. I remember all that you could say episode. For this one, you just have to tell me what was going on. I could tell you what was going on in the episode, even though I didn't see it. I will watch three and four episodes and I'm going to make notes. Season three and four. I'll make some notes and next time you come on. Great characters get introduced.

Oh, my God, from what you're saying, from what I've seen. Great characters get. Oh, wait, you're in store for some really good ones. If you know anything about me, I love this type of shit. I love watching that type of show from A to Z. It's as interesting for me as anything I've ever watched. Well, a lot, a lot of this comes from. You know,

if you ever went on the Internet and I don't know, I don't know. But if you if you look at. Simon's treatment for this. Right. If you look at what he had to write in order to sell the show, it's so intricate. It's online. It's online. So, yeah, you can see it and it's so detailed.

And when you watch the show and you and you read that, it pretty much mirrors itself. I mean, there's few variations here and there, but pretty much solid. The realness and the authenticity that this show has also comes from the fact that David Simon was an investigative reporter. For the Baltimore Sun. He was in the streets. He talked to these guys. He knew these guys.

He knew the ins and outs. Ed Burns, another producer, writer, was a homicide detective for 25 years. Also a teacher. Ex-military guy. You know, so the foundation for this show was all there, you know, and all that realism and all that stuff that you talk about and everybody else talks about is because the people that were. Who who created this show.

Started off with a really solid and truthful foundation. And they just built from that. You could tell now that you're telling me who the producers are all real people. Some of these people are real people. Clay David, these are real people. Bunk is a real cop that he knew. You know, a lot of these, a lot of these characters are based off of. I'm sure there are certain liberties, but I believe that's what I'm talking about.

But based off of people through his experience as being an investigator or Ed Burns, you know, being a homicide cop, there really was an Avon Boxdale. That's a great name. Was an Avon Boxdale. Avon Boxdale. Yeah. Wood Harris, another great actor on the show.

Yes. Another great actor. Been around forever, too. Forever. Forever. Ever. And then his brother, Steve, great actors. Wood is amazing in the show.

So under the radar, just so there, but so consistent. He's so good. I even like the sister, his sister, that he has to, that her son supposedly killed himself in jail, that she plays like the sister she goes to see. That's another great character. Oh, my God, Larry Gildiard, the Angelo, the Angelo, just tremendous. The girl he met and the stripper that the Angelo diet. Yes, he iced him.

You know why the Angelo died? Why? Because he represented hope. That's crazy about Joey. OK, you're back in a few weeks. I could torture you and come back. What do you got going on? Anything I might have to hop on a 11 hour flight. OK, how soon?

But I got I worked on a film called Reptile. That should be coming out for Netflix. Next year, but other than that, you know, just trying to stay busy, trying to stay creative, you know, mom, good, everybody good. As good as she could possibly be, you know, she's hanging in there when my heart goes out to you and my family. I love you to death. And let's be in touch.

I love that you came on today to talk about this. I was fucking fired up. I'm fired up about it. It's OK. It's Sunday. I got somebody else turning the sauce today. OK. Well, let me take a picture of it. What I want when I told when I told my daughter, she asked me before she was going to be on the podcast.

So she goes, let me see him. I go, you just saw him. You know, and I don't she came down and watched for a little while. So all your pictures came up on Yahoo, but I clicked the one from Fat Tony. Jesus, what happened? Well, that's makeup, Percy. You know, we started talking.

And then in the middle of all this, you know, what my fucking daughter said? Because I know him. He's the guy that built the fucking house outside the treehouse. Because I called it down here to show the treehouse. That's how we were. We were looking for this. For the number. Yeah, yeah. She's like, he's me and my wife are like, you see why you don't say shit

around this little cocksucker? Because dogs, she remembers shit. She's like, he had the treehouse. I'm like, oh, fuck. Yeah. So it's a small world. Happy New Year. It's got to come up, man. Yeah. You know, your hopskipper jumping away, man.

You know, you got to come up. I love to come up and see your brother do something in the city. I have not even been there except for working and going to a movie. I haven't done dick there. They say to stay away from midtown, but everything else is cool. Well, I'm in Westchester, so perfect. That's even better than one nine one four representing. I'm through the tap and Z. You're in. You're in.

Yeah, I'm real close. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Make the pal of saves. Perfect. I love you. Enjoy your sauce to help. Stay black. All right. Well, thank you. All right, my friend, be well weeks, three weeks. OK, all right, you bad motherfuckers.

I hope you enjoyed it. Tom, it's a great guy. Follow him on Twitter. We always communicate on Twitter. He's a sweetheart of a guy. If you got a question about the wire or you have a question about acting, that's the motherfucker. And trust me, he will respond to you.

I don't care what level you're at or whatever the fuck you're doing. So do me a favor. I love you, motherfuckers, with all my heart. It's Monday, baby. Don't buy that fucking Fugazi journal to just get a fucking regular notebook. And that's all you're going to need. It's Monday, motherfuckers.

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