Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #143 | JESSIMAE PELUSO | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ
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Alright, without further ado, let's get this fucking party started, Jack.
Yeah, Joey's in the game.
Jack, one, two. Welcome to Uncle Joey's joint.
What's happening, you bad motherfuckers? Welcome to the fucking joint.
It's Wednesday, March the motherfucking second. A beautiful fucking day to be alive.
I'm feeling good. Nothing's going on. We did a fucking zoom today.
Listen, you know me, guys. I don't fucking like zooms too much.
That's why I come on in and bore you to death for fucking every week.
But this week we had to go for a zoom. Next week I'm getting a couple zooms because listen,
I can't do all the fucking talking. You know what I'm saying?
I need somebody to fucking break me down and make me laugh and entertain me also.
So we had a good fucking zoom today.
So without further ado, I'm just going to bring it up because listen,
I've been over here talking to you motherfuckers, breaking your fucking ears.
Somebody sent me a picture that he had bleeding and shit like that.
You know, I've been giving tremendous ear beatings.
I don't want to give a fucking ear beating, alright?
You don't have to tell me, Joey, give it a fucking breather.
So without further ado, I'm going to give you a Jessame Paluso.
We've been talking throughout the whole pandemic.
I kept in touch with her because she's one of my dear friends in LA and you know,
she lost her mom during the pandemic.
So I kept in touch with her pretty much and she was ready to come on the joint.
So I told her, I said, come on whenever you want to.
She said, let's do a zoom next week.
So here we fucking are.
So without further ado, a little Jessame Paluso.
Let's join.
Hi, cutie.
What's up, beautiful?
Oh, you look so cute.
Look at your fucking beautiful.
What's happening?
What's going on, beautiful?
It's been a long time.
Long fucking time.
I like that one.
Richard Pryor behind you.
Yeah, I got that beautiful.
Got a little Johnny Cash up here.
Johnny Cash.
Your girl smoking a joint.
I see.
What's been going on, beautiful?
A xenophobic right there.
What the fuck is that?
A xenophobic.
It's from the movie Alien.
And then it makes another alien in your belly.
Tremendous.
Fucking tremendous.
You look beautiful, Jess.
Thank you.
I was working out before and this is my sports bra
and I was like, you know, this is kind of cute
and for your male viewers, they can see a little
quarantine boobies.
A little cleavage.
Yeah, a little quarantine cleavage.
Actually, we're out of quarantine now, I guess.
We're out of everything.
It's over.
That's it. I knew it.
I fucking knew it.
How long can they milk it for?
People weren't fucking dancing to their tune no more.
We weren't dancing to their tune.
So,
COVID was either they were going to fucking
tighten shit and then a riot was going to ensue.
Eventually, look what happened in Canada
with the fucking truckers.
I thank them because I think
they're the ones that
really woke up the fucking world because
they were going to do it in LA for the soup bowl
and trucks fucking
blocking everything.
You motherfuckers want to impose shit on us?
We'll impose shit on you.
It was brave of them to do that in Canada.
They were, you know,
But look what's going on.
All of a sudden, all the masks just disappeared.
That's it.
Saturday, I got invited to a light mask and fucking party
like where you light them on fire and shit.
But my mask, I can't even let them.
I put a mask on.
I could smell weed and fucking
see juice in my mask.
The fucking breathing is yellow.
I'm not lighting those on fire. I'm saving those.
And if I ever run out of weed, I just cut them up
and smoke those fucking masks.
It is.
I was at a spot.
I was in Palm Springs doing some shrooms over the weekend
and on the tail end of
my high trip,
I saw ice cream spot.
So I went to go get some ice cream.
And this is Sunday. It's the day before
the masks are going to be lifted.
And I go inside just mask free.
I'm like, oh, it's Sunday. It's an ice cream shop.
They'll be cool. They're not going to fucking worry about it.
And it's these two young kids
behind the counter.
And I was like, I'll have this little ice cream
giving that chocolate joint on a cone.
He's like, I can't serve you without a mask.
And I said, really?
He's like, yeah, and you have to buy one. I was like, fuck.
And if I wasn't stoned, I wouldn't have cared
because I really wanted that fucking ice cream.
So I had to buy a mask.
And then he hands me the ice cream cone.
I just assume I take the mask off
and I assume I can eat it because it's a fucking ice cream shop.
No.
He said, you have to put your mask back on.
I was like, we got to stop this shit.
I'm so glad it's over.
It's fucking over.
Once I got it in my mind, it was over.
Like, I'm like, the fear has been lifted.
We survived.
I had 20 fucking friends that had it.
I got a friend up in North Bergen.
They had it three fucking times.
Three times.
They had it in the apple.
They need to get a fucking immune system
because to get it three fucking times.
Oh, he's hanging out at the wrong goddamn places.
Yeah. Where's he going? Who's he looking?
He sounds vulnerable.
But at the same time, you know,
I don't know what was going on.
I'm not going to even get into it.
I'm just happy to see you, but it's fucking over.
You look fantastic. You really do.
I love the silver. You're a silver fox.
Oh, yeah. It got silvery.
I'm old.
You look rich as fuck.
Yeah, rich. Yeah, good.
Rich. Rich in what?
Fucking fat cells.
You look so good.
You really do. You look like you own a yacht.
That's the kind of face you got right now.
I'm fucking sleeping.
I'm drinking a lot of water.
I'm not talking to agents.
That keeps you young.
You don't have to listen to that bullshit.
I'm just enjoying time with my fucking daughter.
You know, for a year, it took me a year
to acclimate to this type of life.
Yeah.
And then I realized I haven't had this life since I was 16.
You know, I'm Joey.
I'm running and gunning every day.
You know, we're running.
My mother died.
I didn't have a day of peace.
I was out at night.
So this is the first time I've had peace
in fucking 40 years.
So I just want to feel like to you.
What's it feel like to me?
Yeah, what's peace feel like if you could describe it
to someone who's never had it?
You know what peace is to me?
That isn't much to people.
My daughter comes down at night at like 10 30.
She waits for my wife to go upstairs
and falls asleep.
Then she sneaks downstairs and we watch
a cooking show.
And then we'll watch something else for a half hour
and I'll send her up at 11 30.
But while we're sitting in that
while I'm sitting in my old man chair
and she's laying on the couch.
I'm watching a cartoon or whatever the fuck
the cooking challenge.
But I'm really not watching it.
I'm just basking in the joy
of watching TV with my daughter
at 10 30 at night talking about it.
We're going to go upstairs and get a snack.
We got any girls got cookies left.
Yeah, I'll go get one.
She went up and got a s'mores from me and her.
That to me is something I always wanted to do.
You know what I mean?
That's what I always wanted to do.
So that's really beautiful.
And that's the equivalent of beauty to me.
Me going to the softball games
me driving to the kickboxing.
Are people drive now
because you you're in Jersey now.
Are people like the locals
coming up to you
or are people giving you space?
Like how are you finding that with
being the celebrity in town?
No, it's 50 50.
I've been here for a long time now.
So I went, you know, I got out of the car
and went right to the fucking field
and saw people and got the initial
reactions from them.
Now they just wave at me and say hello
I'm part of a community now.
So they don't look at me as a dirty
comic or anything, you know,
they just think I'm retired
or I quit. I'm not doing it for right now.
I don't know what they think, but
it's a nice place.
I got Jimmy Florentine around the corner.
I called him the other day
and I thanked him. I said, thank you.
The other day, just Saturday, we were talking
he was in Florida.
Thank you for fucking turning me on
to this fucking community and he took me
to all his places.
So he opened up the door for me at the
vitamin store at the gym, you know,
you got to hook up on glucosamine.
Oh yeah, that's funny. You say glucosamine.
Yeah, yeah.
The health food store I go to
the guy I can't
even describe him to. He's a friend of Jimmy's.
He's this guy that he's done
everything in that health food store.
Do you understand? He's eating
every pill, every
crayton, every fucking
quick trip CBD
every time I go in there
this guy's got a fucking new idea, but he's
solid. He hooked me up with the acupuncturist.
I mean, the guy's been there
for close to 50 years.
His mother owned that health food store
before.
So all you got to do is go in there. He hooked me up with a vitamin,
my COVID package
the fucking CBD
Delta 8's and Delta 9's.
Yeah, I get those Delta 8's and Delta 9's.
That's the only way to fly these days, baby.
He's got everything in there.
And I just go to him and say, I need a vitamin
for an over 50 year old man.
He's like, if you're a 55, I give you this.
But since you're 59,
I'm going to give you that. He knows his shit.
That's awesome.
So I take a nutrient every day
like vitamins and when I swallow them,
it's like swallowing 22 black
dicks, a dead one,
and a Ukrainian one. It tastes so bad
when I swallow them and when I
do the first burp, I almost pass out
from the taste of that fucking multivitamin.
But, you know what?
I handle it and then you piss yellow all day.
I piss at night and it glows in the fucking dark.
My wife saw it the other night.
She's like, you got to go to the hospital.
I take this fucking multivitamin.
So she read it. She goes, Jesus Christ,
no wonder you're pissing that color.
This has everything in there,
plus like 100%.
Yeah, it makes your pee definitely look like a glow stick.
Yeah, you just fucking
pee the fuck out.
What am I going to do?
I got fucking problems. You know what I'm saying?
I'm just trying to keep it together. I'm smoking
good dope.
Now you and I spoke and
you were saying how you sort of
evolved your smoking habits a little bit.
Yeah, I had to when I got here
because of my anxiety and other things.
So I switched it around.
What did you switch it to?
I didn't smoke.
I gave it up for about eight months.
I really went under
my threshold. No edibles, no nothing.
And then I started
huge tolerance break.
Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
And it was fucking much needed.
And it was very good.
And I'll tell you what, I think I'm going to do another
tolerance break here for about 90
days. No, maybe 90
days is all you need.
I don't think I could do fucking eight months again.
That was a lucky thing.
I was withdrawing.
I had the pain pills, my knee surgery.
So it was kind of easy to do it.
I don't think I could do.
But three months feels good.
I don't listen right now.
If I smoke
eight bomb hits a day, that's too much.
I haven't rolled a joint in months.
It's just not worth it.
The weed we get, you don't need to roll joints.
You just throw fucking weed away.
So you look so beautiful.
You look like you matured.
What's been going on in your life?
Talk to me. I rested.
I've been sleeping more for one.
I mean, you're talking about sleep.
I don't know if it's like an age thing,
but damn, if I don't get a certain number
of hours of sleep,
I can't function in society.
I can't function mentally.
I've been sleeping more.
I've got a little
action past couple weeks.
I just kind of feel like,
we were sort of talking about relationships
and how difficult it is to date in this town.
I had this conversation
with my sister.
I kind of feel like
I don't really...
I'm almost 40. I'm 39.
And I don't have that
drive to be in a white dress.
I don't have that drive
or desire to
have a child right now.
And I know people are probably like,
oh, you better fucking hurry up.
Look, that mentality
is back in the day. Now people are healthier.
We're living longer.
So the idea of a woman having a child
at 40, early 40s,
it seems maybe taboo to some people
because of how we're living now,
it's more possible and probable.
My wife had hers at 44.
See?
Scary, for sure.
Scary, really.
The time over 40,
the more years over, like Janet Jackson had a kid at 50.
Do you think you could have that kid? No.
You don't have $10 million to
pay for a fucking van soon
and a nurse and a witch doctor.
You gotta have 30 fucking people
to have a kid when you're fucking 50
gyms and a doctor has to come over
every day and check your ass
whole cent and your oxygen.
So she had the kid, but it cost her
a lot of fucking money.
Yeah, the older you get, the more expensive
it definitely gets. That's a really good point.
But I don't have the drive
for any of it. I don't know
if quarantine changed it for me
or losing my mom changed it for me,
but I feel like
I don't want to settle for
anything, so
I just sort of feel like
singlehood is where I'm at right now
in life and I'm feeling
comfortable with that.
That's okay for now.
See, society puts all this pressure on women
to be fucking married
and then women take that pressure.
They fucking don't know what to do.
Their friends are getting married, your sister
got married, this jerk off
got married to the richest guy in the world.
He's having a wedding on a boat.
And here you are in Albany doing jokes
for a bunch of fucking
boogooches there, so
it fucking weighs on you
when you look around and see what's going on
to the people's like, but I gotta tell you
what you're doing that other people aren't doing.
You're living your life.
Yeah, that's true. I'm exploring
and traveling and
creating things.
Those things become your family.
Those things become your children. Those things
sort of take up
residence in a different way in your life.
And I think
also going through
you've experienced so much in your life, so I know
you can relate to all different types of losses
and trauma and stuff like that.
It really has made me realize
that
it's okay to say no to shit.
It's okay to not want
to put up with bare minimum
bullshit. And I
think until I lost my mom
I didn't realize
how much shit I was putting up with.
It was like I was blind to it.
And now I look back and like, why was I even
giving
any sort of
attention to those toxic things in people?
So it feels good in that sense to
be free of feeling
like I need to accommodate every single
person in this world that
previously I would have given entertainment
to and now I don't.
How long has your mom been passed away for it now?
It was a year in November.
Yes, a year in November.
About 16 months, 17 months right now.
How are you feeling?
I feel lighter for the first time
in a long time. I feel
more present and
I didn't even realize it and I wonder
if you've gone through these experiences or times
in your life where you don't even know you're
depressed. You have no idea.
You're just like going through
the motions and
just surviving and then
until you get out of that
you go, oh shit
that was depression
functioning
from a point of survival
and
not being fully present and just
sort of grasping at everything is what I was
doing until
last November, the year anniversary
of my mom, until then
did I realize I was depressed
for like a full...
I don't know, I think on and off for years
my dad died in 2018 and I feel like
I've just been sort of surviving
and coming up for air since
2017 when he was sick because he was sick
and then he died and you know
dealing with the death and loss
it's so heavy and it's such a revolving
evolving process
then quarantine
hit and then my mom died
so I feel like I've just been in this like
fucking wash
cycle, this emotional wash cycle where
anytime I've come up
for air I'm put back down
and now I feel like I am breathing
out of the
the
tumultuous part
of it all so I feel
like more present and just
I feel like it's the first time where I know
who I am
that's what it feels like to me
I feel really calm, really present
and because of that
similarly to you
I'm
smoking less, I do love weed
but I'm smoking less but I also
do edibles, I microdose on
psilocybin and I've done that through the
entirety of you know the past four years
so I do have ways
of using things in medicines
that make me, that help me
feel balanced but
I'm using a lot less of those things
and I think that is definitely indicative
of me feeling a little bit more grounded
like my feet are planted and not like
I'm kicking in water anymore
so you're grieving both
your mom and your dad and you know
that this takes a long time
maybe that's why
you're not in a rush to look for a fucking
man, I have a child because you have
no, she got no grandmother, the kid's not gonna
have a grandmother on this side, you know what I'm saying
so
I think about that a lot
yeah, right now you know you just
had two serious deaths
and it's weird, you didn't get a chance
to grieve one and then the other one died
because grieving doesn't take two fucking weeks
people have no idea
that grieving doesn't take two weeks
grieving hides at that
funeral, he hides
when the casket goes in the grave
and it makes you think you're okay
it makes you think you're okay, like you even
start going what the fuck
my mother could have died twice and I don't even miss it
it's fucking weird
like for me, I gotta tell you this is the most
disturbing story of my life
fuck the kidnapping
fuck bottles of people pussy
fuck kidnap or robin hookers
I think the most
disturbing thing I ever
ever, ever
fucking went through
was my mom died
November 8th, right
so I was cool all of November
I was like damn
I don't even miss this bitch
I mean I miss her
fucking cooking
but I really don't miss her
then I went to see Judas Priest
November 29th and the wall came out
that weekend
so the wall kind of took my mind away
like it picked up where I should have started
missing her after two weeks
but the wall took me through the whole month
of December and I remember
that I was fucking hating Christmas
I didn't even
think of what Christmas felt like
right? yes
Christmas Eve came
nothing
Christmas Day came
nothing I was like
fuck
I'm gonna go talk to a priest
because I don't even think I love my mother
I mean it was horrible what I felt
it was like just another day Christmas
I thought I was gonna break down and
now you know when it hit me
like a night before New Year's
I was at my friend's house
party getting warmed up for New Year's
the night before New Year's
just a little warm up and that song came on
Mother by Pink Floyd on Side 1
oh yeah
and I had to listen to it you know
my mother dying I had put it on
put it on put it on but for some reason this night
I couldn't breathe
I went outside dawg and I just started
puking and crying and the puking
carried me all the way home I was like on
70th Street I had to walk to 39th Street
it's fucking 10 degrees
is 11 you know and I'm
walking puking and crying
and the tears would freeze on
my face and I
walked she was on a hill a cemetery
on the hill and I remember that I jumped
the fence because
I didn't believe she was dead
I was like she ain't dead they're playing a trick on me
even though you
saw her at the wake for four fucking days
even though you saw them close the lid
even though you saw them
fucking put her in the hole
I ran to the cemetery
I tried to dig her out with my hands
the fucking concrete was frozen
and I remember I caught myself
and I was just babbling crying
like the tears, saliva
boogies coming out of my nose
I jumped the fence and I ran to my house
because I used to fucking always go
maybe she came home maybe
I don't know maybe she got lost on the bus
I don't fucking know and I would sit there
and wait for her at night on the stairs
and I actually
was the one that I even knocked on the door
I believe it
and I was like alright I'm going fucking
crazy I can't do this anymore
and that
I've always remembered that night like it's
fucking tattooed in my fucking soul
how much pain
I was in and after that
the pain just didn't go away
for years
and it escalated oh my god
it was horrible
and it would go away and then at night
it would come back
because you were busy the night
you're busy all day
you're like I got over her death
and all of a sudden you walk in your house
you take a shower you're alone
and it fucking lands on you
like a fucking hammer
sure does the night time is the worst time
and then I was doing drugs
and I was you know
mugging people whatever the fuck I was doing
then the deep
the deep
came in 84
and that's how I ended up homeless
in a fucking park living in a rocket ship
because the pain was
unbearable
and then I was okay I was leveled
but 42 years later
there's still
a little bit of pain and it's like I tell
people and their parents that I go you're gonna make it
but it's like
food anything you eat from now on
it's not gonna have salt on it
that's the way your life feels like it's missing
salt
and I've always said that so grieving
takes fucking years
years it's a long time
and you might grieve your mom first
yeah you might grieve your mom first and come to terms with it
but one day you might have a cocktail
and smoke a joint and all of a sudden you open up
your dad's and now you gotta grieve that
motherfucking you're like what the fuck
how am I thinking of him he died three years before
my mom so
grieving is a fucking mental
nightmare
because it's like it feels like boot camp
for your soul
and it's so individualized
you know there's like that Kubler-Ross
method of
or the stages of grief but
for me
you know the stages obviously aren't linear
and there's other things
that occur
that happen that aren't even
a part of what is supposed to happen
to you and the other thing that was
fucked up for us is because of
COVID and a lot of people experience this
we could have a funeral
so we didn't get to go through that like normal
tradition
of
which is a healthy process
to see them dead
like you said see them be buried
see them in the casket
one of the reasons for that
is so that we can identify them
as being dead and having
some levity with that and connection
with that helps us understand that they are
in fact dead and even
for you you know it was
unbelievable for you and that's how strong grief is
but we didn't have that so there was a real
the disbelief time for me
lasted
for months I was like
this bitch isn't calling me back
where is this bitch
she doesn't want to go to marshals and
she don't want a day drink and go to marshals what
she's got a life now
part of me was like oh she's so
it's really crazy how you
get your mind
like the man said the mind playing tricks on you
your mind
really fucking plays and once you go through that
shit you also learn
that what Rambo said was true
the fucking mind is
the most unique thing in the world
the fuck computers
your mind could do so many fucking
things it's like when you don't want to do something
all of a sudden you start getting tired or
man I don't feel good that's your fucking mind
playing games with you you know
when you read the art of war
not the one by Sun Tzu
but the other guy that talks about writing
have you ever read that one the war of art or whatever
the war of art
they talk about that how your mind
you know
fuck I forgot what I was gonna say to you
I gotta stop smoking this fucking reef
no you were saying how your mind is a thing
that creates everything and how
your mind is like the most powerful thing
and it's you're right like
literally it's the same
thing is if you believe it you can achieve it
what that's saying is
if you can create or
muster up something in your mind
it becomes your reality our thoughts
become our world
and it's wild how
anything within
that can sort of create a reality
whether it's a
reality that's close to what's actually going on
or us thinking our parents are still alive
we're thinking those thoughts
and we might seem crazy to other people
because our reality that's our truth in that moment
because our brain isn't you know
it's so powerful that it creates
whatever that world is
it really is like your mind
is unbelievable
you know I was reading about that new diet
noon
noon noon I was just reading about it
some guy was talking about on Instagram
they had something and I said let me look
this thing up and it's a diet
unlike like weight watches
or whatever it attacks your mental
wow
you want it to this diet
the first 20 days or something
there's a lot of journaling
a lot of walking 9,000 steps a day
shit like that but it teaches you how to eat
all over again
but it's psychological
and it's pretty interesting I was thinking about joining up
and seeing what it's about I'm just
not in the mood to start another fucking diet
I'm happy with weight watches
it works but
it just goes to show you that
the mind can
the mind can conceive
the body can achieve
so it all starts with your mind first
it really does
it's like you can create your own placebo effect
it's so weird how I did a podcast last year
about turning the switch
how some people
it's hard
some people turn the switch on
quicker than others if I put two people
on the same open mic
and watch them and they both do the same amount of sets
every night
one guy is going to naturally be ahead of the other guy
you know what I'm saying
one guy and then the one guy catches up over
in time the guy that got ahead
his cat dies he doesn't go off for a week
and then the other guy comes in and does the sets
and catches up with him
but it's just really interesting how
we can start at the same time
and we can both have different results
but we both get to the same destination
you know what I'm saying
the destination
is the comedy store
every night on stage that's where I want to be
so when you write down that goal
that's where it starts
I want to be at the comedy store four nights a week
next to Bill Byrd, next to Justin May Paluso
next to Joe Rogan
and the more you write that
that's why I always say I like writing goals
because the power of the pen
the power of the pen will take you there without you even fucking knowing
it's so weird even now I write little
goals and I go to the gym and boom
three weeks later I'm achieving them
you know like
being able to row 20 minutes in a row
you know on the row machine whatever the fuck
like I always do stupid shit like that
you know I started walking
on the treadmill so you gotta like fucking
put it up to ten and run up the hill
and die and then switch it
but you gotta change it up on your mind
you know it's so weird how the mind
and I gotta be honest with you
and people aren't gonna believe me when I tell you this
with comedy I did a lot of fucking
meditating
I did it myself there first
like I would go to a theater with Joe Rogan
and go
wow
I'm never gonna be able to play this fucking theater
and then I would go
see you're catching yourself talking shit
yep
you have to leave here saying you'll be back on your own one fucking day
when you leave the theater
have your hand touch the wall or whatever
and then go home that night and write it
I wanna play this fucking theater
when I used to work for Joe
I wrote those theaters names down
and I think
I like the 31 theaters he took me to
I went to 27 of them on my own
wow
you know and I always
a lot of people don't know about that little secret that I did on my own
just to prove to myself
that this is where you came at one time
as an opener
and now you came back here as a headliner
yeah it's
you know you're basically applying
a lot of really
advanced
strategy
for yourself
visualizing and visualization is huge
for achieving goals
it's probably one of the most important aspects of it
and writing it down I do the same thing
I do the same exact thing
mainly because I have ADD
like
actually diagnosed ADD
not just when people say oh I have OCD I have ADD
I really do and it's a struggle
and one of the things that helps me
with all my chaotic thoughts is writing them all down
and I realize
the same thing where you
you start to write things down and then you're like
it's really important to
track yourself
otherwise we're just ships
with no direction we're literally just floating around
in this fucking ocean
not doing anything
not going to any port, not visiting anybody
not catching any fucking fish
you're just a ship in the ocean doing jack shit
you're rudderless
and it's funny because when I got into comedy
I knew nothing
you know I didn't have a coach to tell you
so everything I did I figured out on my own
and the little things were
to write the date
the name of the venue
you know if you were a
feature or a headliner or MC
I wish I would have done that
and I would write out my set
and then
but I would be honest with myself like when I get home
from a show
before I even did a line of coke
before I rolled the joint
before I peed, before I took a shit
it was a discipline
I opened up this notebook and would write down my sets
so I did
the Houston Laptop
I did okay
I could have done better
would you write that down?
yes and I wouldn't write the reasoning
like I would never say the audience sucked
I would always put I need to work harder
and then I would always put the material
that I used
the key jokes so when I come back
I don't use those jokes again
and it's funny when I lived in Boulder
I started that
I had a 20-set
a month goal
there wasn't 20 sets
there was no way
when I was an open mic unless somebody took you on the road
and I wasn't ready for that
unless you're entertaining a field
of weed
I would go to like
like a fucking
what's that shit that Miley Cyrus's dad invented
the whoopee song
remember
they used to dance that fucking dance
in my breakie breakie heart
a bunch of rednecks with boots and hats on
in a fucking country boss
dog Sunday nights I would follow
a line dancing class
there was comedy at 8
after a fucking hour
line dancing class
you had to throw these fucking rednecks out
because that's the way the club did it
and then they do
country dancing that night at 9
fucking horrible
you know Monday I was at a fucking Australian bar
and they put us in the back
in the rehearsal room like the rooms had padding
and shit on it
and you had to close the door and you couldn't breathe
and there people were on stage turning purple
because it was like a bank vault
and they would only seat 16 people
Tuesdays I had the comedy works
Wednesday I had club 56
or the fucking Elvis impersonators room
he was a chef
and then he was an Elvis impersonator
he weighed like 500 pounds so I had to open for him
and then wait for him to do his
set so I could go back up there and greet him good night
nobody knows
I'd rather take it up the ass than have that job
now in hindsight that I think about it
seeing an Elvis impersonator
is fucking suicide like
that's what Elvis like listen
you could do 20 years in jail
or sit through a set of an Elvis impersonator
with a knife next to you
if you can make it you'll fucking walk free
out of this fucking prison
Thursday I had El Torrito
the Mexican joint in Burbank
where the fucking you get poisoned in there
the food was horrible
El Torrito was so fucking bad
like it was holding on
in 94 and 95
but El Torrito was in Burbank
across from where
fucko does the tonight show
you know Jay Leno
it's good next to it
whatever the fuck he's doing
now he's got a coffee shop in his garage
go fuck yourself you got 2 million fucking cars
cock sucker
go get a ticket somewhere
that place was where
Boston Market is now
in Burbank
not Boston all
fuck Boston Market
that place is disgusting
it used to be really good
when the first fucking started
you remember the lines from Boston Market
everybody was eating chicken
but what happened to Boston Market was
people started saying whoa
we can make our own chickens for 699
so every supermarket started making
chicken so Boston Market fucking
I think there's 8 of them left
and they're all like off a through way
that's the worst food to eat
while you're in transit
there was a terrible one in Burbank
and my daughter liked it
my daughter liked the one in Burbank
and she would ask for it
macaroni and cheese restaurant
it was fucking awful
and I would have to sit there with her
and eat that fucking pigeon meat
cause that's a fucking pigeon
oh fucking horrible
wait can I ask you a question
I remember you saying something one time
that along with back to what you're saying about
writing the date
and the place the location
do you also have a notebook
that you've known everyone you've ever performed with
well that notebook
would have that on that
so it would be the list
the line up that to me is so interesting
to see
I have a couple of those flyers
and things and it's interesting to see
who's stuck with it cause it's very
out of like 10 people like 2
have actually broken through
so it's interesting to see those names
that have stuck it for the long haul
in this industry and who has actually
believed in
a nice amount of success where it's
all they do
there's only one guy
that's doing real comedy
from when I was doing comedy in 92
93
94, 95 in Denver
that's a kid by the name of Jimmie
Bay the Mexican guy
I'm 59 he's got to be about 62
hard working guy just never left
Colorado he had it too easy
he had a bunch of gigs during a week
you know every time a concert would come in
they'd call them great guy
but I thought about that too
I thought about the fucking guys I started
with and where they are today
and none of them are around
they're not even in the comedy game no more
wow it's a tough industry
I know we've talked about this
I'm sure people have listened to conversations
about how hard comedy is
but it really is a weird thing
it's a difficult
job to get good at
it's a difficult career to pursue
because
you've got to branch out
even you
you've branched out into other things
and you've done a ton of acting
podcasting and all of that
out of all the things
that you've done in your career
do you view comedy as
the only thing you really enjoy
doing I know you haven't
you're sort of off the road for a while now
but out of everything you've done
is that the thing that you love the most
or do you enjoy making films as well
in my life I mean listen
I love comedy
and the young comics that are watching this
show let me tell you something
do you want to be a comedy writer
whatever
give stand up a world
for one year I don't want you to be a pro
I don't want you to get good at it
just make a commitment before you get into
any field camera work
any field you want to directing
go do stand up for a year
just go once a week
talk to them guys
learn the mind of a stand up
because that's the best mind in the industry
I'm very proud to say yes
I love stand up comedy
stand up comedy took me out of the fucking world
of criminality I fell in love with it
it was all I ever knew
and the one thing about me is I really fucking
respected it like that's where
mind and Joe Rogan's connection comes from
we have nothing in common
fucking genius
we have nothing in common
but our common thing is our love
and respect
and dedication for stand up
I would have died for it
but it's also
it's the ground floor for any entertainment
career
when you do stand up one of the
greatest things I've ever watched in my life
was Roseanne Barr
on that fucking show what's Larry
King
right
what happened I have a vague memory
well she did the one episode
she was talking about how Oprah kidnapped her
and put receptors in her brain
to steal her ideas so
when you say that you're like fucking Roseanne
what are you talking about but then
he asked her a question he goes listen
why did you throw
all the people from ABC
the top brass out of the Christmas party
one year
and she goes listen
I was dealing with a bunch
of fucking idiots
I love Roseanne for this
I love Roseanne for what she did
for me by saying this
she goes in Hollywood
we deal with a bunch of fucking idiots
they went to college
they watched two movies
they're not us
we dove ourselves into this
and then she made this statement she goes
when you do comedy
you're the director
you're the writer you're the sound tech
you're everything
it breaks down into all
those categories that you could grow from
so she goes
when they told me that they wanted me
to beat the Cosby show out
I thought about it and I go
I was going to ask for help but I didn't need help
I knew how to beat them out
by being fucking funny
so she goes I fired all the writers
they gave me because they didn't know shit
about shit and I had
to stand up writers and regular
writers to mix
and friends people who knew me
and they were writing the episodes
and I know half the guys she hired
it was fucking it was really good
for comedy
it was really good to take these guys
and take them through a set and help them
fucking punch up scripts
and that's how she beat Cosby
she knocked Cosby out of Thursday night
because she said she went back
to her comedic roots
and if you think about it how many times
are you down how many times have you called me
and said I can't get no help I can't
get this and after a week
as a stand up comic you know you go
fuck help I don't need their fucking
help I'm taking this into my own
fucking hands and you put it together
better than they were going to do with the
agents and I did that
I did that with the longest shot I did that
with America when they told me they didn't want
to see me for the longest shot I said fuck you
that's what they told you and you
accepted it they're not going to tell me
that he's going to get two comedic
actors
what Adam Sandler needs is
a fucking kick ass comic
for that fucking role and you don't
believe in me as much as you do and I understand
that but guess what I believe in me more
than you believe in me so I'm putting that
audition on tape and I'm sending it to Adam Sandler
and I got that fucking movie
and that's what comics do
we figure out a way
and we always go back
to us nobody can help you
nobody's going to help you sell tickets
nobody's going to help you write material
nobody's going to help you
book comedy gigs nobody's going to do
shit or you have to assume that
you do have to assume that
at the end of all your crying and all your
woe is me you go fuck
you I'm going to take
matters into my own hands that's why I put
auditions on tape just a minute
when all these motherfuckers were telling
me to go out on the road on Wednesdays
you had to do radio on Thursdays
I would say no I do a podcast
on Wednesday night and someday
this podcast is going to fucking
help me out and now I'm 59
and I don't want to do stand-up
that's why I work those Wednesday nights
to build the fucking podcast
and to build trust with an audience
even though the agents want to oh they want
you to come in on Wednesday night for what
to do some stupid radio on Thursdays I don't
need to fucking do if they want me to come and do radio
I'll tell you what cancel the week
and let's find the week when you don't need radio
and they would go okay don't worry about it
come on in so that's the thing
about stand-ups and that's the thing about us as human
beings they're not going to
help you nobody's going to help you
assume that you have to think like that
exactly nobody's gonna help you look
at the situation and
write three different scenarios on how you
could help that situation how can I become a better
comic I could write more I could perform more
you know I could hang out with Doug
Stan Hope and learn more I could hang out with
fucking jesame there's three different variables
here I'll put nine months in to see if my
I go on a triple run
for fucking a year
you want to get really good go for a fucking
triple run for a year
do each of those rooms twice and then come back
and see me you'll be a fucking powerhouse so
hell yeah I don't know what you're talking about
I changed
you know I have reached out to you
for help so many different times and
just from
you know that whole
conversation what you just talking about like you have
to assume that no one's going to help
you has been the most vital
piece of advice
for me not just in my career but in
life becoming really
self-sufficient and becoming savvy
and and realizing you
have everything inside of you and the
resources you need to get shit
done and no one's going to do it
for you in the longer you think that the
longer you're going to wait and nothing's going to get done
and and
beyond that
whatever they tell you isn't gospel
whatever
agents say or
whatever anyone says
that's not the way it is
it's the way they know it to be
and
one phrase that I can't fucking
stand in the industry
is well that's the way it's done
okay well at some point
somebody came up with an idea that hadn't
been done before and you know what it fucking worked
don't tell me that's not
the that's the way it's done have a little
bit of gumption have a little bit of
fire under you and that's
that's what I think it makes
comedians different the ones that succeed
and break through there's a fire
there's a relentless
ambition there's like a
not accepting no
mentality and in this
almost like a blind confidence
especially when you're first starting out
you're like fuck you
no I'll make it a yes somehow
like what you're saying like they're not
they don't want to see me and I love that you're like
that's what they told you
that's how you're selling them
you bought that fucking line
like fucking Tony did from
Sosa I was watching that last night
Scarface and he tells him you bought that line
you know you bought that fucking line
listen this is the way I look at it
a wise man was told me his name
was Rick Dukerman God rest his soul
a casting director's job
is to book that film
she wants to tell you that she's going to search
high and low for the right actor
but when she takes the job she already knows
what she's looking for or three people
or four people if I
look to the job and I told
my agent I was right for it and he said no
I would fucking submit myself
I didn't give a fuck what he said
and maybe six out of ten times
I was right that means I'm betting 60%
they have
the limitation they're scared
and really now today they're very scared
when I got into the business
I used to walk into my manager's office
and hear him cursing motherfuckers out
I mean tremendously
yes he's out of the business now
because I think he cursed out one too many motherfuckers
but he fought for you
he believed in you
these motherfuckers today
look what they did to Callan and Dali
and all these guys by an accusation
the agents dropped them
you drop me go fuck yourself
now look at Dali and Bill Cap and Brian Callan
they're all jumping up and down
there's no more rapes there was never a fucking rape
there was never an act
but you guys brought into a fucking allegation
so you let all these motherfuckers go
when I saw that shit in the business
I'm like these agents are pieces of shit
and in time we're going to learn
how to avoid these motherfuckers
comics are going to go you know what
I'm going to get an attorney
I don't even want to go on a movie or TV
I just got to get an attorney
I love my attorney
Jeff Cohen
Jeff Cohen is a savage
one of the original Goonies
my attorney truffle shuffles motherfucker
try and fuck me over
he was so good
I trust
he's just so communicative
and honestly
perfect example
has been in the industry as an actor
was in Goonies
he's a
cultural icon
and because of that
understands how to
package things and understands what to look for
and what to ask for
after my dad passed away I started writing
about it and during
him being sick I was writing about it
and it became this thing
and I said I think I want to turn this into
a screenplay or something and
we ended up partnering with
a production company
and I wrote a screenplay treatment
for it
and Jeff didn't like the deal
he said you know I don't like this deal
for you
I know you want to do this and you want to turn
this into
a movie and I respect
that but this isn't a good deal
for you
most people would just take the money and go yeah
go ahead make the thing
but he knew it mattered to me
he's like you know this is something that is your story
and
you should write it the way you want it done
not hand it to somebody and have it be turned into something else
and I'll always
be indebted to him for that because
then it made me take a minute and sit
with it and go oh he's right I need to turn this
into a different piece of art this has to be
formulated more
and really spent some time on instead
of turned over to somebody else
to write my experience
you know because I wanted to
write the screenplay I wanted
to write the script and they weren't willing to
partner with me and I was like well
then I can't
how am I going to hand this to you
you want me to
hand my dad's story to you
and I can't fucking help
write it are you crazy
I wrote it so good you want to buy it
you should be smart enough to know that I'm good enough to
write it out
and Jeff was like we gotta go
and it's important
like you know you're right
about the lawyer thing like having a lawyer
that's tough and savvy and willing to go to
bat for you
that's one of the main things you need you know early on
I reached out and connected with Dane Cook
and that's one of the things he told me
too do you need a really good lawyer
start there
start with a really solid savvy lawyer
and maybe a manager
but a lawyer is somebody who will protect you
on all angles of this industry
on all angles
on all angles my life is a lot better
now my lawyer is Florentine's brother
fucking Uncle Dan
I love that
and that motherfucker does not play
fucking games
do you write your mother and father a letter once a month
oh my god
no
I tell you it helped me a lot
wow
I got a notebook of letters I write my mother once a month
your granddaughter's
doing grade
tell me your cousin Miriam
that is beautiful
that has helped me
so fucking much over the years
and especially after I had Mercy
because the hardest pain I think
after I had Mercy was
not having my mother around
she's an extraordinary little
fucking girl
that I wish my mother got to be around
because my mother is all she needs
to push her over the other side
Mercy is a wild woman
she can push
and
it's great but yeah
start writing a letter to your mom on the first
don't do it this month
that's a really good idea
and your father just a letter
if you want
you can put it in the envelope
and go through the process
yeah
but if you don't just put it in the notebook
that's a really great idea
and look at it at the end of the year
trust me I'm telling you
I believe that
thank you
through this whole process
I've looked for ways to heal
I meditate almost every single morning
I meditated every single morning
after my mom died
for a year
it changed the game for me
it really gave me a place
to put my emotions
and gave me a place to
have a little bit of space to breathe
and
start the day that way for me
has been vital
to my survival
and journaling and all of that
honestly meditating
writing and working out
if I miss one of those
I'm off
I'm a little off
I'm not
I'm not as intentional
and I used to think there were such woo woo things to do
oh you journal
bro what do you write
and now that I actually do it
I go oh okay
there's something to this
there's something to this because like we said
the mind
you have like 100,000 thoughts a day
that's exhausting
that's tiresome
and we
especially you and I as being artists
and performers they're not all fucking positive
no
not like a peanut gallery
dog you know for every positive thought
you got to get a negative thought
and you got to get a dark thought
you know so when I get a dark thought
I like
we won't pay attention to it
like I want to take somebody's eye out or something
I won't pay attention to that thought
but guess what I also came up with the thought
to add music to the
you know what I'm saying like I'll think of something positive and
move forward
you got any weeks
you got any tour dates coming up anything
yeah I actually do
I forgot I'm going back on the road
I've been off the road for months now
I'm going to be at the Kansas City Improv
for St. Patrick's Day weekend
with Cody Woods
the great great comic
he's a local guy from there
what else you got going on
I'm going on tour with my other podcast
it's a Patreon exclusive
pod for now it's called Girl
and it's with my friend Carly Aquilino
and her and I are going on the road
with Cody's
Nashville
and Chicago
New York
we're hitting all the
the COVID hot spots
in my podcast
Sharp Tongue still going strong
I'm so glad I stuck with it
somebody that was on my team a while back
told me maybe I should give it up
and it just goes back to that conversation
about having faith
in what you do and knowing you're worth it
and now
it's
allowed me to do whatever I want to do now
there's no more feast or famine
because I put more effort into it
and really stuck it out
now the podcast
is taking care of a majority
of my expenses
and that's because people are listening
and enjoying it
and if I had not
doubled down on it
and cut it off
that's where I'd be
it's all about listening to that positive voice
in your head knowing you're worth it
and not listening to people who've never done what you do
tell you how to do what you're doing
it's fucking crazy when they try to tell you
and you're like get the fuck out of my face
the fuck do you know
I get up at 5.45 every morning to do a fucking podcast
and you're gonna come over here
with your fucking story
when are you on the east coast again
when are you in Point Pleasant again
I owe them a weekend
a summer weekend at Point Pleasant
New Jersey
and Beach Haven
I don't know probably the summer
call Uncle Vinny call Dino at Uncle Vinny
yeah I have to I gotta come out there
I'll call him today
that's a great little club
it's one show Friday
one show Saturday
that's what I'm talking about
you're in the east coast
you come over here and crash two nights
I got an extra bedroom
yeah just give me a call
you know I love you to death
I love you too and honestly
you checking up on me throughout the quarantine
made me feel like I had family
and I appreciate that
I don't forget about my fucking girls
you know that
in fact I even called you and said
what's that thing with that little skinny bony ass
I don't want to see that bony ass
of yours ever again
for years you were keeping it together
now you're flaunting showing that ass
I don't know what the fuck's going on
that's why I asked you if you have put your grieving away yet
because
when I seen that little skinny bony ass
what the fuck is she thinking
that's my sister showing that ass
cute little ass but
you gotta put some weight on that motherfucker
you want Johnny Black to hit it with your dick
you know
Johnny Black hits it with your dick at the end
he'll break the cheek
you gotta put some mambo in that motherfucker
you know what I'm saying
when I grow up I'll break your fucking hip
oh you crazy bitch
keep me posted
I love you God bless you
and if you need something you call okay
I know that
don't forget to let it to mom and dad on the first
I'm gonna fucking do it
I am when we hang up and I'm gonna hit up
Dino too
I love you to all my heart
and whenever you want to come on
and talk some shit I like to come on the sharp tongue
so keep me posted
alright you dirty bitch
I love you
take that bony ass off the fucking TV screen
hey bye
bye
alright you bad motherfuckers
we talked a lot about losing somebody
because
that was the topic we were talking about
that the last couple weeks on the phone
what do we want to discuss
people during the pandemic
so I know you're feeling
weird and I don't want you to grieve alone
I wanted to break the grieving
process to you and throw you some ideas
if you're grieving somebody
and you're really missing that person
I told this to another friend of mine
that her father died a while back
and she was having a hard
time therapy and I go no no no no
write your parents
your brother your sister-in-law
you know I lost my sister-in-law
during the pandemic
I write her a letter once every other month
I started about two months ago
but my mom I've been writing letters too
for about 15 years
and my father
I've been writing letters for about
10 years now
so every month on the first which was
yesterday
this week I did it on Monday and I just wrote
on my short letter what's going on
and it helps man it helps if you don't
have the money for therapy or whatever
I mean grieving is something
you gotta do on your own
therapists could always help you know what I mean
I love better help but
this is something that you could do at home
and it's nice you you write a journal
you write a letter to them once a month
you write your goals there's a lot of work
to be done on a notebook if you have a
notebook at home it's not for fucking
you know you're not in school no more
you're not adding nothing get yourself a notebook
yeah you're not adding nothing you know what I'm saying
get yourself a fucking notebook
and you know writing it write your
thoughts down that's called journaling
that's it just writing it what you're feeling
for the day your girlfriend's a fucking
asshole your grandmother sucks dick
whatever you could write it in there and
learn how to deal with it a lot more and
if you lost somebody write them a letter
at the beginning of the month you'll feel
a lot fucking better
I want to thank all you guys I want to thank
Justin May and I want to thank you guys
for always having my back and always supporting
the podcast and the patreon
I want to thank Mike for always fucking
doing the innovations whether it's
the lights or whatever we're always
coming up on you motherfuckers always getting
a little bit better every week so thank
you for your patience and that's it
have a great fucking week
and I'll see you motherfuckers Monday morning
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