Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #160 | JON BERNTHAL | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ

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Starting point is 00:04:53 You don't even like Mexicans and you're jumping up and down. Fucking tequila, fucking bean dip and farts. You fucking love it. My main man is in here today, John Berthal on a Wednesday to get this fucking party started. We talk the podcast, we'll talk, we on the night, we'll talk generalities. What's going on, brother? It's great to see you, man. It's great to be here with you in Jersey, in your home, man. South fucking Jersey. It's fucking beautiful, man.

Starting point is 00:05:17 Central Jersey, good to see you, man. Now you know what's going on with you. Yeah, I'm happy for you. I love seeing you out here, talking to your wife, seeing how great your daughter's doing out here. How much you love this community, how much the community loves you. It's great. I fucking love it. I love it down here. I can tell. I can tell.

Starting point is 00:05:33 I thought bad this morning because I had to go, I go to a health food store. That guy's had that health food store for 30 fucking years. Wow. So you can go to him with any question. I want a bag of heroin. Let me call my friend. I was just in there. I had to go get stuff from my knees.

Starting point is 00:05:49 They have like a stuff to strengthen your tendons. Stuff you put in or stuff you rub on it? Stuff you put it in water in the morning. So I take it with my vitamins in the morning. It's like glutamine mixed with something else and something else. It works? Fuck yeah. I don't have pain in my left knee at all, but I went there this morning and some salesman was there when I walked in.

Starting point is 00:06:08 He's like telling the guy, I fucking, this shit don't work. The guy's missing teeth. He's built fucked up. He takes Crayton every day. He lives on Crayton. Whatever the fuck that is. Crayteen. Crayton.

Starting point is 00:06:22 Crayton or something? Crayton. Crayton. I don't know what the fuck Crayton is. It's some green shit. Yeah. But he lost his teeth. Fuck him up.

Starting point is 00:06:30 Besides that, he's like a fucking pillar of fucking hell. This guy has eaten everything at that. When you go in there and you go, I want to try that. He'll go, don't do it. I did this for a while and it didn't work out for me. Like he's tried everything in there. Wow. Wow.

Starting point is 00:06:43 Everything. When I was sick, when I was sick, I went in there and I go, this is what's going on. I mean, he gave me Crayton. Wow. And it's like red Crayton. It's like a Japanese herb or something like that. They grind up and it's supposed to be illegal. Huh.

Starting point is 00:06:57 Right. But I guess everybody in this area is heavy on the crate. Is that right? Is that right? You get juice the night before and you put like four tablespoons in and you put it in your refrigerator and when you wake up in the morning, you drink it and it fucking sets you out for the day and they have a red, like a green hulk is good. Like the red dragon.

Starting point is 00:07:16 You do it. Anything red is to relax. But that's not just for the knees. That's for general. No, no. This is for everything. This is to get high. Did you ever do like the tie boxing liniment on the knees?

Starting point is 00:07:27 No. Have you ever done that? No. That is the fucking shit. Do you know in the movie you and I, the first movie you and I did together in fucking New Orleans, uh, Sylvester Stallone, he fucking went, yeah, but my son had just been born. My son Bill had just been born. He was stuck at the NICU, right?

Starting point is 00:07:42 Cause he was super fucking early. So I go down there for rehearsal and I fly home to go meet my son, literally like meet my son for the first time at my house. And when I, when I landed the airport at LAX, I get a call from my agents. They said, Sly wants you back in New Orleans for boxing rehearsal. I go fucking boxing rehearsals. Cause remember I was, I did the part, but then I also did young DeNiro cause they found I boxed a little bit or whatever.

Starting point is 00:08:05 So I'm like, I could want to meet my kid. Like what do I got to go box with Sylvester Stallone? And they like, they need you back there. So I get back on the fucking plane and I go to this boxing rehearsal and he's in the ring with, uh, with, with DeNiro and he's kind of like, you know, like all the executives are kind of watching him and he's kind of holding court doing his thing. And I walk in and he goes, yo, you're next. You know, and I'm like, all right.

Starting point is 00:08:26 So like, you know, I just started hitting the bag, whatever. And then they finished the rehearsal. He fucking walks out of the ring and I came back for no fucking reason. Right. And I'm like, well, look, what am I doing here? And then I met this kid, Greg, we're mentors. Now this huge stunt stunt guy, he was playing the young Stallone. So we were like, Hey man, we're here.

Starting point is 00:08:40 You want to just go in the ring and get a few rounds of sparring here and say, cool. So I go up into the ring and this woman comes up and she comes to the ring. She goes, Hey, I just went into your bag. You have that tie boxing liniment and, and, and, and Sly really loves that boxing liniment. So I went into your bag and I took, I'm going to go rub it on his back. And I'm like, you went into my bag and took my fucking liniment. You know what I mean? That liniment is really fucking hard to get, but I got bad knees too.

Starting point is 00:09:05 And it's great for about like, if you're going to move, it just, it just makes everything, uh, numb, you know what I mean? So I go, all right, fine. Like you'll fucking rub it on his back. Like I came here for no reason. I'm sparring with Greg. And now like he's getting all my boxing liniment on his back. So the fucking sparring is done.

Starting point is 00:09:21 About 45 minutes later, he comes out. He's been, you know, massage. He's showered. He comes out in this like beautiful fucking suit and a top hat. You know what I mean? He walks out and I go, yo, I'll see you later. You know, as he's walking out, she comes back over. She goes, Hey, I just want to let you know.

Starting point is 00:09:33 Sly's just going to go ahead and hang on to that boxing liniment. And I'm like, motherfucker. And I completely lost my, and I like ran out after him. My stuff, my gloves on, my mouth, go slide. So like, what's going on? He's a, yo, and I'm like, hey, look, man, like where I'm from, if you're going to borrow something from someone, you know, normally you ask, you know, permission first, like you ask, you know,

Starting point is 00:09:53 and he's like, yo, I'll let you box in my gym. I was like, hey, look, man, like you made me come down. You're like, you know, I'm like, what are you, you know, and, and he's like, look, I don't need the liniment you hang on to. I was like, no, keep the fucking liniment, you know, but I'm like, but you know, and we I thought for sure I was going to get fired after that. You know what I mean? And we still, it made us start off on such a wrong fucking path.

Starting point is 00:10:12 You know what I mean? And that's all I think about with that fucking box. This is the greatest shit on earth. But, but then slide did become super fucking nice to me. This great guy and all that. But yeah, that's what I thought when you talked about your bad knees. Now, speaking of Thai fucking heater, that vitamin guy also told me about a Thailand Viagra that your dick is hard for three days, that they take it

Starting point is 00:10:32 in Thailand on a Friday and it fucking rocks to a Sunday. You know, when I saw his missing teeth, I was like, I don't know. That sounds interesting, but I don't know. I don't know. You got missing teeth and I don't want to fucking, you know, take the Thai pills. And then I got a hard on for fucking three days. I don't even know who to stick it in. As you see, my wife is a Christian.

Starting point is 00:10:53 She don't play that shit. So, you know, when I got married, my freaky days were done. They're done. Just like done. So, yeah, but no, I like the area. I needed this. You know, when people call me saying, why are you moving there? Nobody really understood.

Starting point is 00:11:07 Like I just wanted it. It was time for me to be around my people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was time to be, you know, even though I don't see my friends as much as I like to, I know that that, you know, when we knew that LA was the same thing. But like, honestly, man, most important, like sitting down with her and seeing how happy she is and how much it means to her to have community and understood that, look, everybody wants a shit on LA.

Starting point is 00:11:30 But the truth is there's trappings of LA. And if you're trying to raise a family there, it's there's a lot of there's a lot of fake nonsense there. And I think that that's really hard. You don't want to raise kids in that environment. And it was great to see how happy she is. And it's great to see how much your daughter's thriving. That's like, that's what we're on this earth to do, man.

Starting point is 00:11:47 I'm not. I don't have a bad thing to say about LA served the purpose for me. That's right. And I know, listen, I thought about moving to different places. Northern California. I thought about moving to Reno. Yes, what she said. I thought about going back to Colorado, like go towards Telluride.

Starting point is 00:12:05 But then the pandemic came. Yeah. And the pandemic came with just like this weird feeling to it. Just wasn't it's like right now, you know, I was we were talking Monday about the things you never want to think about. You never want to when you're down 200,000, like when you owe 200,000 and you say to yourself, how am I going to pay this guy? And you go, I'm never going to pay. I don't want to think about it.

Starting point is 00:12:25 It's the same thing right now. I think I think America, I think the world right now. We're not in a good place. I agree. You know, between inflation, the numbers are going back up all this year. We're not in a good place. And we have a war going on with a guy that anything could happen. And if you think about how this is going to end, it's the same thing

Starting point is 00:12:44 as on $200,000. You don't want to think about it. There's so many things you can say. So many variables right now. You know, that's right. So I and every one of those arguments already in rupture, but every one of those sort of topics is being taken over by folks that just want to get you on their side or the other side.

Starting point is 00:12:59 They just want to make it so, hey, I'm with these these guys are these guys. They just want to wave their fucking flags from the sidelines. And and and that makes it so you never actually face the issues. You never actually talking to people of real experience in the fucking issues. We're talking the wrong fucking people. The wrong people got the mic. You know, I don't know the issues. I just have I go by feeling.

Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah. And I go by the direction the wind is going blowing. I mean, I think this is the calm before the storm. Yeah. For some reason, I just we were talking on Monday about, you know, how we're worried about our children. That's what world are our children going to go into? You know, all I ever wanted was to have a child with this woman.

Starting point is 00:13:37 And now our children are going to be able to buy a house. Are our children going to be able to have the same things we had? Who the fuck knows? Yeah. But these is what, you know, you have to think about or not think about. Yeah. And move on. But it's a different world right now. But when you've got kids, it is, you know, really loving, really understanding what it's like to love somebody more than you love yourself.

Starting point is 00:13:59 Not give a fuck what happens to you, but you just want to throw down for that kid. The only reason you're on this earth is for that kid. And it's crazy to actually face the fact that, like, you might be leaving them a world that's worse off than you came in. You think about all the things you had as a kid. You're like, wow, my my kid, I don't they can't really experience that. You know, like, I don't know. And I'm sure, like, you know, I was walking through New York, you know,

Starting point is 00:14:22 I'm doing that, you know, down here for press. And I was thinking about, man, can you imagine New York in the 70s? And, you know, you always think how much better was. I remember what it was like 10 years ago, 20 years ago, the fucking energy, the palpability of anything could happen at any fucking moment. And just how electric that was. And there was that that that feeling, you know, if you can make it here, you can fucking make it any.

Starting point is 00:14:45 I don't care what you do, but I remember pounding the fucking pavement as an actor thinking I didn't have a fucking hope in the world. But I just keep on grinding, keep on pounding the electricity fuel me. But now you're like, you see it and you're like, wow, like, what are these, what are these kids coming up seeing, you know, like everyone's on their fucking phones. But, you know, then again, maybe you're just like, hey, look, I'm just an old fuck. Like every other miserable fuck from every other generation who thinks that,

Starting point is 00:15:08 like, you know, kids today don't don't know anything and they're missing out on anything. And I don't know if that's just part about life and getting older. I don't want to be that old fuck. Me neither. You don't ever want to. My day, we and the electricity 10, 20 years ago in New York. That shit ain't like I was out last night in New York. It's cool, but that ain't what it was fucking 10, 20 years.

Starting point is 00:15:29 No, and you should have had it in the 80s. I couldn't only imagine when it was like a paradise to go over there, you know, living here, especially where I lived. I lived eight minutes from the city. Right. So it was dessert. Right. Right. It was always dessert. Right. We did this in Jersey. Can you imagine what we're going to do in New York at 3 a.m.

Starting point is 00:15:49 Let's just go over there, get a case of B and see where the fucking where the night takes us, you know, New York was a fucking great place. I'm like, I'm too old, but I wish I could have done a play. Yeah, I can put all that time you have done a play and not worry about money. You could still do that. You know, bro, I got a fucking my agent fucking reached out to me last week. You're not going to believe this. She goes, I sent this department or my actors and the only one they wanted to

Starting point is 00:16:20 see was you fucking to go up to Yale on Monday to Yale rep to Yale. The college, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And do a table read into David Geffen Arena or something. That's yeah, it's a great theater. Go fuck you. Go fuck you. You know, I'm going to do it next time. Joe, you would crush theater. And I'm telling you, man, that is where the big boys go, man.

Starting point is 00:16:40 Fuck all this on camera shit. I mean, it's like great. We do whatever. No second takes, no nothing like think with you and your background, what you're able to do, like no other comic in the world, you on stage and your acting ability, it would be a fucking revolution. I would love to do. I would love to do a play with you. I always want it like I'm thinking I've been talking to Vince Pastore, pussy about doing the one about the butcher.

Starting point is 00:17:04 Oh, no, no. Requiem for a dream. Requiem for a dream. First and then the one about the butcher with the ugly butcher that falls in love with the good looking chick played by Ernest Borgman. We always read it and acting acting class. I forget what the fucking Sam or something like that. Who the fuck knows? No, no, it's not.

Starting point is 00:17:22 Sweeney fucking time. Do I look like Sweeney Todd? Do you know what I was? But I always felt like I always felt when you were stand up, you feel very insecure on a set. Sure. But then again, you know, like I got an audition the other day and they I looked at, you know, you always look at shit. And I could tell by reading the audition that it was a fucking hand job.

Starting point is 00:17:43 You know, it was it gave you too much information. And then I saw who's in the movie, who casted themselves in the movie already. It's a husband and wife team. His rating on IMDB is four hundred thousand and hers is like six hundred thousand. So they want me to read for this movie. I go and my wife was looking at it at the phone. I go, it says SAG scale. But trust me, there's a by the way there.

Starting point is 00:18:06 You could tell just by the extent that they sure enough on the bottom. She goes, yeah, it's still waiting for SAG after approval. I go, fuck that because they just want to. So when you're in a movie, you have a lot of those things. You have a lot of people that just cast themselves or whatever. But I think in theater, those are the high level fucking straight up. Straight up, especially at a place like that, especially, you know, so you kind of get. But this was Yale.

Starting point is 00:18:27 They were going to give me two hundred and ten dollars. Yeah, there's no money. No money. I was taking a train out of Penn Station, but then taking an Uber home. Yeah, from Yale at two hundred and ten dollars is for that Uber. A New Haven, Connecticut or something like that. Straight up. Holy shit. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:42 So they just wanted me to do the table read. So next time they do contact me, I will go up there. Yeah, I think you should. I would love to. That's great. But I don't know if I could do those 80 hour fucking rehearsals, man. But you know what? Like it's I don't know, rehearsals, fucking heaven.

Starting point is 00:18:55 It's it's fucking heaven. It's where you can try anything. That's how you grow. You know, it's like all it's like getting it's like getting a lot of time to work on your set, but with other people, you know what I mean? With other people inspiring you and challenging you and change. There's nothing in the world like rehearsal. I fucking live for anything can happen.

Starting point is 00:19:13 Rehearsal, you're there to take risks. You're there to fail. You're there to fuck up. Like what else you get to do that as an artist? Like you it's like, look, I'm sure you have your own way of working on what you work on and you have your own method for your comedy, right? But for an actor, it's like we got to like carve out our fucking time to put our work in.

Starting point is 00:19:31 But this is determined set, you know, eight, nine, 10 hour days where everyone's got to fucking be there. You've got to be on stage and everyone's throwing down. So it's like, think about the shit you can discover and how you can grow. We don't get that. It's like playing baseball, right? Like you fucking play baseball. You can work, you can hit off a tee, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:19:48 If you don't have anybody else, what you can throw ball against a fucking tree, right, you can like stretch, you can work out. But in order to play the game, you got to have a bunch of other people with all the equipment, with the field, with the ball, they got to be willing to play. They all got to be allowed to be there at the same time. That's how you get better at baseball. You go to practice. The way you get better as an actor is you go to play rehearsal.

Starting point is 00:20:08 You don't do it by sitting alone in your fucking living room saying the lines to a mirror. You know, you don't say it by like the the 10 seconds you get between action and cut on a film set, you know, you driving in the car, you're saying the lines over and over, what fucking practice is that? You know what I mean? Rehearsal is fucking where I love it. I love all that shit.

Starting point is 00:20:25 I like when they block on a movie. Yeah, yeah, I love all that. I've always loved doing that for eight hours. Doug, I got to tell you a funny story. I don't think I told you. So we do the table read, raise them. Yeah, I respect the shit out of Ray Leone. You know, I love Ray Leone.

Starting point is 00:20:41 I say, how are you doing? I keep it to a minimum. He's from Union, New Jersey, up the corner here. So I keep it to a minimum. I don't see Ray for like two weeks and we're shooting and all sudden Ray shows up, you know, and it's like five in the morning. I'm in my trailer smoking dope and I finished my joint. I, you know, I go to make up and there's Ray next to me.

Starting point is 00:21:04 I don't say good morning. Are you doing ladies good? And also on the way out, I go, Ray. Not for nothing. If you want to rehearse the lines, let me know. You know, this motherfucker didn't even answer me. Oh, yeah, he heard me loud and clear and he just looked over at me and he just fucking turned his face.

Starting point is 00:21:23 I'm like, fuck, right? So I'm going to say none of this. Now we get into the scene. It's a table and Satriali's and he's sitting there at the end and I'm sitting right next to him. So I got to live off. I don't say a word. So first line comes up, hop along, kiss a DJ.

Starting point is 00:21:45 What are you talking about? And then he starts with his Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin joke. And he's fucking it up. Like he can't. We could talk about this now. I remember, yeah. This was like the first day he was in there. He's spitting food.

Starting point is 00:21:58 He's trying to chew. He's fighting food with the thing in it. They fucking watch his name leaves. God bless him. You know, whatever it's David Chase. He fucking can't take it no more. Because the fucking girl came over 20 times. Ray, can you imagine coming over to him?

Starting point is 00:22:19 Oh, my God, no, like that's the way, you know, dog. She came over 20 times. Ray, the line is gone and he's like wiping his face and shit. You're like, hey, Ray, you want to hurt those lines? No, I didn't say that. So all of a sudden again, action. Ray fucks up the line. I can't take it no more.

Starting point is 00:22:36 I go, Ray, maybe you should have fucking read those lines to me. He just looked at me like you. He didn't like me that much. He didn't even talk to me after that. Ray, you should have fucking read those lines. You know, he got so angry, he just left. Did you hear about that? He just left.

Starting point is 00:22:51 We shot that scene without him. I heard like somebody there and shot that scene without him. So he's Ray Liotta. He's the star of the fucking movie. What are you going to do? You know, he's having a bad day. So I don't say nothing. I'm dying to laugh.

Starting point is 00:23:04 I'm dying to laugh. He's spitting food. John is going crazy. The guy that's playing Sylvia, he's like, what the fuck is going on over there? This is going on for three fucking hours, four hours. Finally Ray leaves. He just left.

Starting point is 00:23:18 Nobody said nothing. I think, honestly, people were like, thank God. Thank God he left because we just didn't have it together. Read those lines off camera. So, Doug, I did not want to laugh. It's my first time with these people. I don't want to laugh and I don't want to be an asshole. So I'm saying nothing about it.

Starting point is 00:23:34 I'm just sitting there from time to time giggling by myself. And then at one point we're sitting there. It's got to be three in the fucking morning. We're there from six in the morning and fucking. John McGarro looks at us, there's like six of us, and he goes, what the fuck was going on with Ray today? Doug, we fucking lost it because everybody was waiting for somebody to say what the fuck was going on.

Starting point is 00:23:56 Everybody lost it. And then we pack up rap. We all get in the van. We're shooting back to the city. We're sitting there, we're tired, and out of nowhere, the makeup lady goes, can I ask you guys a question? What was going on with Ray Leo today? And this time, the fucking driver of the car,

Starting point is 00:24:12 the teamster, was like, he busted out because he's like, Doug, I was listening to it. What the fuck was going on in there? He was just having, but then, like I didn't see Ray. I didn't see him at all, maybe one other day. And then I went to see the movie and you see him in prison. And you're like, oh fuck.

Starting point is 00:24:32 He's a fucking killer. He's a fucking killer. He's a killer. That's 30 fucking years of acting. That's right. You know who I flew out here with, man, and wanted me to say hello, it's Brennan Schell, man. Good man.

Starting point is 00:24:42 I'm a fucking unbelievable guy here. I was literally listening to him on Rogan, and then I'm fucking on the plane, and he says, hey man, he says hello to me. He's sitting like almost right next to me on the plane. I said, I'm fucking listening to you. Then we started talking about kids, and his kids are in Jiu-Jitsu too,

Starting point is 00:24:57 man, he is such a fucking good guy. Like such a good guy. He wanted me to send you love, and he's brilliant. I'm gonna hit him later, because I know he's in the city. I'm gonna hit him later. It's crazy because when he hit me yesterday, or whatever, he hit me on Instagram.

Starting point is 00:25:13 I hit him back, and I'll call you tonight or something, he was gonna be in town until Wednesday and Thursday. Yeah, something like that. And I started thinking about Brennan, and I started thinking about what Brennan's gone through in his life, how he wasn't that good of a fighter, people made fun of him, and then, you know, Rogan talked him out of fighting,

Starting point is 00:25:29 which was a big step, if I was a friend, to tell somebody that. And this kid jumped into comedy with both hands. And, you know, years ago, I did something with Joe in Atlanta, and he was there, and he kept looking at me. He was a fighter then. I'm on stage doing stand-up,

Starting point is 00:25:47 and every time I look in the audience, fucking Brennan's shop is like, looking at me with like a weird look. So after the show, Rogan goes, man, Brennan's shop wants to say hello, come back and talk to you. I don't want to talk to that motherfucker. I swear to God, I'm like, don't bring him back here,

Starting point is 00:26:04 because that dude don't like me. And he was doing, he was watching comedy, like with a weird look on his face, I don't want him back here. And Rogan's like, okay, Joey, I won't bring him back. And then I met him. And I realized that he was a student. That's it.

Starting point is 00:26:17 What a beautiful, humble guy. He was a student. He was watching me like fucking hanging onto the words. It's embarrassing when you see somebody do that. They're either hating on you or they're fucking going, what the fuck is this guy saying? So years later, when I met him, we'd had that conversation.

Starting point is 00:26:33 He's like, no, you were doing a joke about something. I was thinking to myself, how are you getting this out of your mouth? Aren't you ashamed or embarrassed or something? So he reveres you, man. I see what he's doing now. Brilliant. And I give him the thick boy stuff,

Starting point is 00:26:48 the special he produced, directed, everything himself. You know what? And people chop his legs off. Like in any society, I don't know, society. I mean, people chop his legs off all the time. But I've spoken to him. Because he's scared. He's different.

Starting point is 00:27:03 And that's what we were talking about. Like when I came in after I came in from sports, it was like, you know, it's very different level. But like people saw me and they're like, this guy can't fucking do this fucking it. And like, man, it's so, it's like, but you know, his strength and his resilience, but like to come through it on the other end

Starting point is 00:27:19 and just be so kind. He's like such a kind guy. He's got a heart of gold. And here's the fucking crazy thing. For all the people that enjoy putting Brendan down and cracking stupid jokes and saying he's not funny, the people who do that have never done anything in their life and have never faced adversely like this guy.

Starting point is 00:27:35 If I was Brendan Sharp with all the hate he's gotten, I would have quit by now. But this motherfucker kept going, started thick boy industries. He's always working and he keeps fucking swinging. So for you motherfuckers that don't think Brendan's funny today, give him a couple of years. You're going to be eating your fucking words.

Starting point is 00:27:51 And the people that are putting them down are people who've never done anything. That's right. Never mind quit being a fighter and then going into comedy, one of the hardest fucking things you could do ever, ever. And you got to give the guy credit. He's remained a sweetheart of a guy.

Starting point is 00:28:07 I'm going to see Brian this weekend. I'm going to hook up with Brian at the stress factory this weekend, do some shows with him. He's trying to fucking do some videos and stuff. We're going to go out and eat. I'm going to take him to fucking eat the stage. New Brunswick got some good food too.

Starting point is 00:28:22 Yeah, but. Oh, they got steakhouse 85. That'll knock you into a different world. And they got a place called the stage. You get the seven ounce YU beef. They cook it on the stone with some whipped potatoes and shit. I send the chef a bag of reefers or even those were fucking solid.

Starting point is 00:28:38 Oh yeah, you have no fucking idea. But Brendan, you know, it's like I love underdogs. I've always loved underdogs. I'm an underdog. I always want to be getting points. Give me the points. I don't give a fuck. I'll take them.

Starting point is 00:28:52 I'll fucking rock your world. I'll rock your fucking world. So give me the points. I don't give a fuck. That's what we thrive on. We thrive on people going, you're not going to do this. Okay, watch my fucking smoke. I may not do it perfectly, but I'm going to do it.

Starting point is 00:29:05 That's right. Okay. And if I could do it once, I could do it again and again and again until I fucking get it. And then you're going to reach back and you're going to try to lift up and support anybody else who has that same sort of mentality and that dude's going through that same kind of thing

Starting point is 00:29:17 because your heart's been through it. You say, hey, look, I see you, man. I believe in you. And you thought, that's what we connected on in the plane too, like that and just being dads. But I'm just real taken with that guy, man. You see something. Solid fucking dude.

Starting point is 00:29:29 You know, and it's like, he came from, I mean, this kid, did you see the video of him crying? Yeah, dude. Did you see that video? And he's like, just, he's got a hard to go. That's right. All those guys, you know, what was done in county a couple of years ago was a fucking nightmare

Starting point is 00:29:45 because those guys are all sweethearts. Crystal Lee is a sweetheart. Brian's a sweetheart. Fucking Brendon, is it like a student? Like Brendon used to call and ask stupid questions and I go, but on the flip side. And I know you've seen this. How many people have come up to you and said, John,

Starting point is 00:30:04 I want to do what you're doing. All I ever want to be was an actor. You know, I do this, I do that, but I can't put the pieces together. But you know, they're bullshitting you. They just want to fucking hitch on your trailer. But then you see people who are savages on their own and you'll do anything for those people.

Starting point is 00:30:19 You'll go, you don't want, man, whatever you want. Because I see what you're doing. And whatever you're doing, I know that you want that ship and I know you want that Porsche. It's not in your house today. But keep doing what you're doing. You'll have it in two years and forget the monetary. Fuck all that.

Starting point is 00:30:36 Forget the monetary. Love doing it. It's what you want to do. That's why I didn't want to do stand-up for a year. Because I wasn't in love with it anymore, guys. That's a hard decision to do. First off, every time I was doing stand-up for the last year, I felt like a gay man.

Starting point is 00:30:52 What does that mean? What am I trying to say? I'm doing something I don't want to do. Like I'm doing something. I didn't, it was like, if I, you ever seen L.A., you ever seen L.A. to this people? You ever seen L.A. to this, you ever hear like, I was at a restaurant one night and I heard a guy

Starting point is 00:31:09 and I'm thinking to myself, and I love gay men, I was thinking to myself, dang, nobody is gay. Can be this gay. Nobody can be this fucking gay. Only in L.A. could somebody move to L.A. become gay. And then when they move out of L.A., they switch back to being fucking,

Starting point is 00:31:27 Anne Heisch, whatever, Donnie Brasco's wife. Bunch of people just happen to be gay in L.A. when they get there. Then 10 years later, you look at Facebook, they got a family. No more gay. What happened?

Starting point is 00:31:39 They became gay to be part of the fucking game. And I hate to say this, but it's true. So they could belong to something. They could just go belong to that. And they'll take it in the ass. Like, what's the difference? You know, I fuck chicks, some guy fingered me in the ass. What's a dick in the ass at this point?

Starting point is 00:31:54 I'll do it for three, four years just to get some work and hang out and have friends and get invited to parties. And then one day when nobody wants me as an actor, and I'm a failure, because I am, I'll fucking move back to Florida, find a woman. What I'm trying to say is that there's, it's like me trying to fake gay. Like I just didn't want to do comedy no more.

Starting point is 00:32:13 I just didn't, it wasn't in my realm no more. Recently, I'm falling in love with it again. Like I watched a Rodney special the other night. You know, I watched a Kenison special the other night. That's what I wanted. I couldn't even watch a special. The only special I watched was Allie Wong's new special. That was the only one.

Starting point is 00:32:31 And she inspired me a little bit, but now I wanted to fall in love with it again. If you can't do comedy for free, you're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it, you know? So it's like when you did the small machine movement. Small engine repair, yeah. Small engine repair, that was labor of luck. That's it.

Starting point is 00:32:49 You didn't do it for the money. You did it because you believed in the project. That's how you know you like what you do. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's kind of, that's kind of for better or for worse. That's the whole thing with me. I mean, I think the success of it is just being invited back to come play again, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:33:03 That's what you're aiming for. So I'll be lost as fuck without it. Now I see that you put a podcast out that I told Mike. Me and Mike have discussed it on the show and off camera. I love it. It's a video podcast. And we have videos here. We have a video and an audio.

Starting point is 00:33:23 You did a video podcast that's just a little bit more real. We were talking about this before. It's shot in the winning time. I like it. I like how it's shot. I like all the angles you got. I like that nobody's neat. You got a backwards hat on some days.

Starting point is 00:33:38 You guys fucked up some days. You're not trying to be Johnny Carson. You're just trying to get the information out to inform people. What made you come up with this fucking idea? I mean, look, it's not, it's just not, honestly, Joey, it's not about me. I got no real desire to put myself out there anymore.

Starting point is 00:33:56 And if I'm being dead honest about it, I mean, the guys that I really respect, that really do what I do and actors, I think putting less of yourself out there is probably better. And the more people kind of get to know who I am, who John Berthal is, the less they're gonna believe me as a doctor, or as the punisher, or as a fucking baseball player, whatever it is.

Starting point is 00:34:18 And there's been this whole thing among actors that they always say, maintain your mystery and all that shit. And look, for me, it really kind of came down to me just sort of being kind of like disgusted with discourse in the country. I just kind of got to a point as a dad and as an American where I was just like, you can't have,

Starting point is 00:34:44 there's no room to have a discussion anymore without having an agenda, without saying I'm on this side or this side. And I feel like so many of the kind of major issues of the day are being led by people who have no experience with those issues. It's some fucking celebrity or pundit or so-called expert. But for me, I just know I've been like super fucking blessed,

Starting point is 00:35:08 man, by both the life I've led and the career that I've had, that I've gotten to really know and have real relationships with people who have really walked the walk. So the folks on my show are, they're cops, they're special forces soldiers, they're surgeons, they're coaches, they're teachers, they're civil rights lawyers, all kinds of political agendas, all kinds of races and religions and sexual orientate,

Starting point is 00:35:36 whatever the fuck they are. The only criteria is they're real. They actually walk the walk. They got the respect of their community. They got the respect of the people they work with. They've really done the things that they're talking about. What I find is people who have really walked in those valleys and really have had boots on the fucking ground

Starting point is 00:35:55 of that shit, they go into life with empathy. They go into life like understanding folks on the quote unquote other side. Look, man, I mean, we talked about policing with this new show. Look, man, I'm sure sometime in your life, you've been beaten up by a cop. I sure as fuck have been beaten up by a cop.

Starting point is 00:36:11 And look, that being said, some of my best friends in the world are cops. I've also experienced unbelievable sublime generosity and kindness from cops when I've been protected by cops. And like the fact is in this country, for some reason now, we've confused being completely fucking steadfast in your views, completely unchanging. It's my way or the highway as being patriotic

Starting point is 00:36:37 or strong or tough, where to me, there's nothing more cowardly. There's nothing more un-American than saying it's my way or the highway. This country is about fucking sitting down with people that might think differently than you and having a fucking beer and being like, hey, man, you might teach me something.

Starting point is 00:36:50 I might teach you something. We still love our kids. We still love our sports. And we can go to, and you know what, man? Like push comes to shove. We will fight together as Americans to preserve this country. It's the greatest country on fucking earth.

Starting point is 00:37:03 And I think we've become so divided. I'll tell you, one of the things on the show that I'm most excited about is in a few cases, folks in Shreveport, folks in South Central Los Angeles and DC and Baltimore, I've had guys come on who are either active or ex-gang members who have done decades in prison, some of them. Some of them did life sentence.

Starting point is 00:37:27 One guy that I had got out of Supermax in Florence, Colorado, was locked up with Larry Hoover. And I had them on literally with, sometimes with the cop that put him away. And what I found is like, here are two people on opposing sides, quote unquote, of this sort of argument about race and policing in this country.

Starting point is 00:37:46 But yet they're finishing each other's sentences. They're more alike than they are different. They both lost time, they both lost friends, they both lost loved ones to this, you know, war on drugs or whatever this is. Yet, they find fault with their own groups. They find, they can reach across the quote unquote, fucking aisle and say, hey, here's a cop

Starting point is 00:38:04 that I really fucking respected. Or you know what, here's a gang member I really respected. I really respected the way he was there. His loyalty that he showed. How he protected people in his community. And to me, it's like, if these folks can do that, we all should be able to do that. And so again, without wanting the hardest thing

Starting point is 00:38:23 for me about doing the show is that it's, I'm asking a lot of people that aren't used to coming on camera, aren't used to coming on the mic, people that I really fucking love and respect and who have opened up their lives to me, which I think is sacred. And I'm asking them to open up their lives to, you know, whatever platform I have.

Starting point is 00:38:41 But I genuinely fucking believe that those are the people that we should be listening to. I love the people we have on. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I'm not an interviewer. I'm not like good at this. I'm not, but it is not about celebrities. It's not about fucking acting.

Starting point is 00:38:56 It's not about, it's literally about discourse and spending some time with people who again, who walk the walk, they don't just talk about it. It's crazy how one of the biggest problems I have taking pictures of people is, do you know you're taking a picture of it? I stole a chain one, a can of chains that belonged to handicapped kids one time.

Starting point is 00:39:16 I took it. But you stole? I went to get ice cream. But if I went to get ice cream, to go shake, and I had like $18, I needed 20 to go into the city to get a bag of reefer. And that's not even taking the bus. I'm walking over to George Washington Bridge.

Starting point is 00:39:32 What I'm trying to say is a real point there that in life one time I went to get something and there was a mug, a can, where you put your change and there was a couple of dollars, I took the can. Just took the can in 1993. Why? Cause I'm a fucking thief. You know, I went to prison, I did all these mistakes.

Starting point is 00:39:48 I always want to celebrate. Like I always go, why would you want to take a picture of me? There's a doctor somewhere that saved the kid's life. And you want to take a picture with a fella. Cause he cracked a few jokes, cause I smoked dope. Are you fucking retarded? What is wrong with you? Go take a picture with a cop

Starting point is 00:40:04 that just gave birth to a kid in a fucking fire. Like he just saved a woman and the baby was fucking, you know, those are the people that we should celebrate. We don't celebrate them in America. We don't only celebrate them. The man of the day, celebrate them. That's it. And then we want to like talk about all these issues.

Starting point is 00:40:20 We want to, you know, we want to talk about all these issues, but the only way we can talk about them is by saying you're either on this side or that side. And whether the folks that are actually living it, they don't pick sides. They're busy doing it, you know what I mean? They're busy doing it. They see beauty and they see brutality

Starting point is 00:40:36 in the life that they're living. And they call it out. They judge people for the content of their character and the fucking look in their eye. It's not because, hey, you're on this team or you're on that team. And, you know, look, man, I think for me, it kind of, you know, during the pandemic

Starting point is 00:40:50 and when the sort of the, in the height of the reaction to both George Floyd, the George Floyd video, and then, you know, during, you know, the verdict, you know, one thing that I was really seeing is I was like, look, man, like, I want to be out there. I believe in this movement. You know, I believe that, you know, what that guy did, you know, I didn't need to be there.

Starting point is 00:41:13 Seeing that video, that was just a level of disgusting, horrifying violence that I knew that that needed to be weeded out and I knew that there was something in the culture of policing that needed to change with that. It was, I needed to be a part of that movement. I needed to be out on the streets. I needed to be a part of that protest.

Starting point is 00:41:32 But then I also saw on TV people throwing fucking bottles at cops, people fucking hurling insults at cops and each one of those cops has a family. They've got wives or husbands or kids or brothers and sisters. They're all human beings trying to do the best they can and this is one guy. So anytime I go out to the protests,

Starting point is 00:41:50 I go down to Newton division and I go talk to the cops too. And I just didn't understand why you couldn't be both. Why can't you be black lives matters and pro police? Why can't you do that? And what was crazy is the folks who are actually from these communities, you know, everyone's saying defund the police.

Starting point is 00:42:06 Let's say the people who are from these communities, you go talk to the folks in Shreveport, Louisiana where the murder rate is just fucking skyrocketing. I'm talking to people in some of the, you know, most ignored communities in that fucking city. They say, we need more policing. You go to Baltimore, we need more fucking policing. Baltimore, there's been so much police corruption.

Starting point is 00:42:25 But I talked to my buddy, Tony Maggio or Keith Galliano, guys who grew up in fucking East Baltimore who are policing for the right reasons. And our community mind, they got the respect of their community. They're fucking aggressive ass serious cops and the community fucking loves them. And they love the community.

Starting point is 00:42:40 They're doing it for the right reasons. It's just, it's so much more complicated than anyone wants to make this shit. All these issues, you know, it's like when I, you know, talking to my friend, you know, in Moscow, we had on the podcast the other day to talk about what information is really like over there

Starting point is 00:42:55 and what people are really hearing on the ground in Moscow. It sucks because, you know, right now so much of the information is so fucking agenda-driven. And again, like, Joe, you know me. I'm a fucking asshole who says lines for a living that somebody else wrote. I put makeup on, like,

Starting point is 00:43:11 I researched the shit out of my shit, but I am not the guy to be delivering political discourse to this guy. Like, I is not about, but these fucking people, I know for a fact, we need to start listening to people who actually do this shit,

Starting point is 00:43:24 who actually have seen it. You wanna talk about war? You wanna talk about combat? Talk to special forces soldiers. Talk to Marines. Talk to guys who have actually been there. Talk about what they've seen. Like, let them open up about their experiences.

Starting point is 00:43:36 Don't listen to some motherfucker who's just pontificating about books and he's never set foot there. I just, I know in my gut that that's the answer. I know that's the answer for our kids. I know we got it. Those are the people that need the mic right now. So that's what we're trying to do with the show.

Starting point is 00:43:52 It's a great fucking show. Thank you, man. Thank you. I appreciate it, man. Thank you. You know, you're gonna put time into this. Go for it. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:44:01 Go for it, bro. Go for it. Get fucking everybody that you can on there that you could put a light on to show people what these people, look at what happened. We gave a light to the fucking fire department, right? After 9-11.

Starting point is 00:44:13 We loved them. And now we don't wanna fucking give them benefits when they're dying of cancer. That's right. You know, we always put, we love fucking the nurses and the doctors who saved us over the pandemic, but then we fired them.

Starting point is 00:44:27 Over a fucking mandate. And now, you know, I mean, it's just never, it's never, they can never, and these are the people, the lunch lady. You know, I think about a lot in my fucking day, Mrs. Sabatino, a lady who used the lunch lady in my grandma's school. Think about what a lunch lady goes through.

Starting point is 00:44:46 That's right. Sometimes kids don't have money. They put the 55 cents up for you, whatever it is, for the milk and the cookie. Sometimes she would wink at me and give me an extra cookie. That lady controlled those students. And she didn't even know, with love and nobody.

Starting point is 00:45:02 And the effect, the effect that adults have on kids. How can I fucking remember that from my childhood? I still remember her from my childhood. Probably more so than a bunch of your teachers, right? And let's talk about teachers. Yeah. Fuck the teachers. Guess what I'm doing, Saturday.

Starting point is 00:45:17 I'm going to see my freshman year teacher. He's in from Florida. He helped me out in 85. My other teacher, Mr. Barone, I took him to the fucking grudge match. Oh, really? Oh, that's beautiful. And we were sitting behind an arrow.

Starting point is 00:45:32 I took Mr. Teranova to the longest yard for me. Those teachers, people don't respect teachers. And they got a bad rap last year during the pandemic. And I said some shit about teachers. I'm sorry. But teachers spend seven hours a day with you. That's more than your fucking parents. Your parents get home at five, cock-tock.

Starting point is 00:45:51 And they push him back at nine. That's five fucking hours where I come from. These teachers, these men and women, these coaches, they're with you all fucking day. They know you better than your fucking parents at one point. And we don't give them nothing. They have to fight for fuck. Every month I got to donate to some fucking teachers,

Starting point is 00:46:10 $16 so they can get students pencils. Because yeah, I do it every fucking month. They hit me from, I'm getting hit from schools in Africa. Everybody, I donate to every fucking school because I teach these supplies and the fucking schools don't reimburse them. It comes out of their pockets. So they're not making any moolah.

Starting point is 00:46:28 And then I got to pay for shit for these fucking kids. So these are the tough jobs we don't look at, man. And those are the people I talked to. I love that I speak Spanish so I could talk to the bus boy at the restaurant. So when your white ass ain't got no water and bread, I got water and bread like a motherfucker because I gave that guy a $10 bill when I came in.

Starting point is 00:46:50 You know who gave him a $10 bill? The last time somebody gave him a $10 bill when he left Mexico and his mother put it down in his pocket to cross the fucking fence and to last for a month. So these are the people that need attention in this country. These are the people that need attention in this world. And we fucking forget about it.

Starting point is 00:47:05 You can learn from them, man. You'll learn from them. You can learn a ton of shit from them. You can learn a ton of shit from them, you know? So I mean, these are all the things that, these are the people that we should be celebrating, especially after what this country went over the last two fucking years.

Starting point is 00:47:19 So, you know, whatever, whatever the fuck. What's on the agenda? What's going on with you? You know, man, I'm just, I'm here promoting the We Own The City, you know, the HBO show, I just been doing a little bit of press and then, you know, I got to get back to work. I got to fly out in a couple of hours back to California.

Starting point is 00:47:42 Hopefully I'll get to my kids games again. That's really what I want to fucking do. I want you to tell them the story about the day I called you in Baltimore and you were on the set and you're like, Joey D, hold on one second. And all of a sudden it's like, yeah, yeah, I got it. All of a sudden you got back on. You're not going to believe what happened.

Starting point is 00:47:58 Some guy just ran on the set and I had to punch him. Oh, you were, you were, I talked to you that day. I was on the phone with you. I was on the phone with you. We were talking about something and you're like, you're not going to believe what's going to happen. Wow. I'm doing a scene and some guy just ran.

Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah, that happened, yeah. And we got into a fist fight. Wow. We thought it was an extra. I talked to you that day. As it happened. Man, we were doing that. We're doing that.

Starting point is 00:48:18 I think it'll come out maybe, is it next episode? I'm not sure which episode it's in, but we were doing the uprising scene which we're shooting it at. What David Simon and those guys do so fucking right. I mean, you know, you love the wire. I love the wire. You know, these guys, they have such unbelievable access

Starting point is 00:48:38 and respect and reverence for the city of Baltimore. They've spent their entire, him and George Pellicanos, they spent their entire careers there. So, you know, they do it, we shot every scene that went down, everything that happens in the show really happened and we really shot it where it happened. A lot of times with the real cops and with the real victims or with the real perpetrator,

Starting point is 00:49:01 whatever it is, you know, and we're shooting it with the community. That show was being shot for the city of Baltimore, by the city of Baltimore, with the city of Baltimore. And so we were shooting, you know, the uprising scene at Madawan Mall, where it actually went down, where, you know, Wayne Jenkins, his character I show up, he shows up to this big protest

Starting point is 00:49:20 and some guys threw some bricks at some cops. So Wayne runs in, he gets the guy through the bricks of the cops, he'd be fucking dragging to the ground and takes him into custody. And it was this sort of moment where Wayne really stood up for the other cops, whatever. So we're doing that scene all day. And they told us before we got there, they're like,

Starting point is 00:49:37 look, this is gonna be a really sensitive day. And again, huge respect to the producers. It was all people who were actually in the uprising were there that day. Everybody who I was standing on the line with, they were real Baltimore police officers. So it was like, I just have so much respect for these guys to show up and do that.

Starting point is 00:49:53 You know, you're making a show about police corruption in Baltimore. I'm going on ride along with these guys. They opened their hearts to me. And that's not because I'm a great guy, it's because what they did with the wire. They said, hey, the wire tells the truth. If you fucking are here to tell the truth,

Starting point is 00:50:07 tell the fucking truth. Expose whatever the fuck you want because we respect the truth. So we're out there shooting this scene. And I'm doing like, you know, you do like 40 fucking takes. It's a big thing. And I've been like 20, and these are all stunt guys that I used to fuck with on the Punisher.

Starting point is 00:50:19 I know all these guys. And, you know, we've got a choreographed. I'm beating this guy. We're making it rougher and rougher and rougher. So all of a sudden they throw the brick, you know, the bricks made of like fucking plaster. It doesn't hurt. I block it with my fucking shield.

Starting point is 00:50:32 And then I run out there. And all of a sudden there's this guy with dreadlocks. I've done it 20 times. I'm like, who's this fucking guy? Like I never, you know, and we talked about this really. And sometimes extras do like weird shit, you know, like they want to get into the scene. But we've done it 20 times.

Starting point is 00:50:45 I know all these guys by name. And now there's this guy like running at me with these fucking dreadlocks. I'm like, who is this fucking clown? And I go, oh my God, is he about to sock me? And he fucking reaches back. I'm like, this dude's going to fucking hit me. And sure enough, he just throws a fucking right hand

Starting point is 00:50:59 right at my fucking head. And the last second I blocked it with my riot shield, but it hit my face and I felt it cut my, I felt it cut my face. And I just figured, all right, he's a background actor, but if he's going to take a swing at me, I'm going to take a swing at him, you know?

Starting point is 00:51:12 So I just like, wow, and I hit him with this right hand. I hit him like right in the eye and he fell down. And then we finished the scene. We're like fucking around doing our thing. And then the scene was over. And I go, and I'm like looking around to see what happened. The guy walks up to me, Joey, his eye is like, I mean, he's bleeding profusely from his eye.

Starting point is 00:51:34 And he comes over to me and he gives me a fucking hug. He goes, yo, dog, you a real one, man. You a real one. And he hugged me. Then he looks to his right. Three real Baltimore city police officers fucking are chasing him and he runs off. He just happened to be running by and he's like,

Starting point is 00:51:50 yo, I'm going to go knock that motherfucker out on TV. And that's Baltimore. And like the fact that he gave me a hug after that, it was the most Baltimore thing I, like he showed me respect, you know what I mean? It was incredible, man. And then, but like, you know, then like I had this big, and then I guess I talked to you, which is nuts.

Starting point is 00:52:04 Right then, right then. It's so crazy, man. Right then, you know what I mean? I'm going to believe what fucking happened. You're not going to believe this. I'm like, Jesus Christ, how does this shit go on? It's crazy. It's crazy.

Starting point is 00:52:14 It's crazy. And it was fucked up because then I had this like line of blood on my face from the fucking shield. So then, you know how, then it's like, it's got a match. We got to wait. I'm sitting there like, I'm going to lose takes because they got to stop the bleeding because it won't match.

Starting point is 00:52:26 And I'm just, I want my takes. You only got like half a day to shoot the scene, but you have fucking actors. You know what's funny? You mentioned Travolta, I was Travolta. Stallone before. I only saw that motherfucker for two minutes on Grudge match. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:52:39 As I was walking in, as I was walking in, he was walking out, he was in the yard. And I stood out there. I didn't know whether I should go in the fucking building or not the gym. I was ready to go in the gym, but I saw him out in the parking lot. And I go, I got to go up to that motherfucker

Starting point is 00:52:55 and say something. And as I went over like this, I saw him go like this in the SUV. He was looking at himself. Also, he went like this. He went, like, he got a tricep shot. And I go, there's nothing I got to say to him right now. There's nothing I got to say to him so best.

Starting point is 00:53:12 I love him. I fucking love that motherfucker. I mean, how can you know? I love that motherfucker. He's my hero. I mean, I love that motherfucker. And like, you talk about like a fucking underdog. Like, when you get into that Rocky story

Starting point is 00:53:22 and what he did and what he's done for you, like he's a fucking hero, man. He is. Fucking, I love him. But it was so interesting to see him. I mean, like, I don't know who was, like how many people watch that movie, whatever. But it was so fucking interesting to see him and De Niro.

Starting point is 00:53:38 Just two titans, fucking titans, legends. Italian-Americans came up at the exact same time. And you're like, you fucking Rocky. Like, to do what he did in Rocky, like he, I mean, he is a fucking brilliant artist. And then you've got De Niro, who's also came up at the same time, was considered one of the most brilliant artists,

Starting point is 00:54:00 American artist probably of all time, right? He's in top five. I don't know, at least for me, right? But these guys, they made decisions along their career that were so fundamentally different, you know? He went on, he did Rambo. He did fucking, like all those big fucking friends. Tango and Cash.

Starting point is 00:54:18 Tango and Cash, fuck it. Did he do Robocop or was that, did he do Robocop or was that Schwarzenegger? He did do Robocop. No, no, what was the cop one that he did? Like the robot, you know what I'm talking about? Yes. The one with the, what's the one?

Starting point is 00:54:33 Just Dread. Is that right? Right, just Dread. Who fucking, you know what my point is. The point is, is like, that's the way, and nothing against him. Like that's, he was a huge action franchise star and De Niro just kept on going out and doing it.

Starting point is 00:54:47 And it was just like seeing these guys, you know, kind of being pitted against each other in a movie when they have so many similarities, but so many differences and they come from the exact same, you know, era and background, but they've lived, and like, I think they both sort of had envies and jealousies and admirations of each other.

Starting point is 00:55:08 It was extraordinary. I found it fucking fascinating. And for me, man, you know, like I'm, I'm just a De Niro guy, man. So I was just like, you know, I played his son. So I was just all about De Niro in that. I was so like protective, you know what I mean of him, but it was such a, it was such a, such a fast.

Starting point is 00:55:24 It was, that was a crazy shoot, man. That was a crazy. I learned a lot on that shoot. Like it was just a really neat, I'll tell you who cracked me up. I love Cool J when he called De Niro Benjamin Buttons. He was like, this motherfucker's Benjamin Buttons. De Niro looked at me shook his head.

Starting point is 00:55:43 He's like, everybody in there was really cool. I still talk to the director, Peter. Peter, he's great. Yeah. Peter, I still talk to Peter from time to time, but it's just, I love the last fucking Rambo. Did you see it? The last one in Mexico and then he recut it.

Starting point is 00:56:00 And he fucking, holy shit, with that fucking finger in the shoulder and all that. That was the most violent one he ever made. But look at what he did. I mean, look at what he did in Creed. You know what I mean? He's a beautiful actor, man. He's got so much heart, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:56:17 He's not gonna be in this one. In the new one? Yeah. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Like that's how, to see him, he's fucking old. And to see what he's doing, he's still out there. I fuck him.

Starting point is 00:56:28 It's just, he made more money than anybody doing this pandemic. Oh yeah. They played three of his movies every fucking day. Every fucking day, you know? So. He's got a new show. He's doing a new show with Taylor Sheridan.

Starting point is 00:56:41 Yeah. And Taylor's the greatest. He's the, fuck, I've done three things with Taylor. He's the greatest. Is Taylor directing? I don't know if Taylor's directing or shit. You know, Taylor's got an empire now. You know, Yellowstone in 1883 and like, you know,

Starting point is 00:56:54 he's doing all the, you know, I think the other one's like mayor of Kingstown. Maybe I'm probably butchering the name, but he's got, you know, Taylor, Taylor was a fucking actor on Sons of Anarchy. He played the cop on Sons of Anarchy. And, you know, man, he just, he got sick of telling other people's stories.

Starting point is 00:57:11 He got sick of, you know, hanging out with a bunch of guys trying to be tough bikers, you know, and Taylor's a tough motherfucker. He's exactly who he says he is. Which cop was he on Sons of Anarchy? He was the main cop. He was the main cop in the first few seasons, like the, like the, he was sort of like the villain in a way.

Starting point is 00:57:26 You know, he was like the guy that, you know, he's trying to keep peace in the town. The white dude? The white dude. That's Taylor Sheridan. There was a skinny dude that was a little built. Sons of Anarchy. And then there was the old guy.

Starting point is 00:57:36 That's right. He was the younger guy. The handsome, younger guy. Yeah, yeah. That's Taylor Sheridan. And so he said, you know what, man? I'm done with this shit. I'm gonna go write a script.

Starting point is 00:57:43 He fucking wrote Sicario. You know what I mean? And then he got done with that. He wrote Sicario and then he got done with that. And he wrote Heller High Water. Then he got done with that. And he wrote Wind River and directed it. You know, and then he, and now he's got, he's got an empire.

Starting point is 00:57:58 He's, and he's speaking to people who Hollywood isn't really speaking to very much anymore. Yellowstone's like the biggest fucking show in the world. It's a fucking amazing. It's a great show. And Taylor is just like, he's done things his own way. And he's refused to play ball. And, and, and, and he's, I mean, you know, man,

Starting point is 00:58:17 like you know how it is. You become a series regular on a show like Sons of Anarch. He walked away from that to write. He had never written anything. And he's been such a kind like supporter of mine. How me, you know, when I started writing, you know, I wrote this show called The Bottoms, you know,

Starting point is 00:58:32 which we just sold to HBO. Like that, you know, he was the first guy I went to. He was the first guy that said, write this, do this yourself. He's like, I'll help you. I'll give you advice. And he supported me, stuck by me. He's, he's a beautiful, beautiful guy, Taylor Sherry. He's brilliant.

Starting point is 00:58:47 And I think now that he's got Stallone, like this will be even a new iteration of Stallone with Taylor. It's going to be great. Now, Taylor wrote this. Yeah. So it's a mob thing. Yeah. It's a mob show. And it's a Terrence Winter. Is it, is it?

Starting point is 00:59:01 That's what I heard. I don't, I think Terrence is the executive producer. That might be right. That might be right. That might be right. It's going to be a good show. It'll be great. They didn't call me to go to Oklahoma.

Starting point is 00:59:10 So yeah. Yeah, Tulsa King. That's right. Tulsa King. That's what it's called. They'll call you. Call fucking Joey. What are you guys doing? No, they didn't want me for the pilot.

Starting point is 00:59:17 They said they were, they had something. In the future that they might, whatever. One last question. Why the fuck were you in the Sandra Bernhardt movie? Jesus Christ, me and my wife were like, what the fuck? Why is he in the Sandra Bernhardt movie? God damn it. Sandra Bernhardt.

Starting point is 00:59:39 What's her name? Bullock. Bullock. But that's all I knew what you meant, which is beautiful. You see? I watched that was fucking awesome, dude. I love that movie.

Starting point is 00:59:46 I liked it, but I, I, I, I, I, I, I, What am I doing in there? Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. People give me a hard time. Dude, listen. First of all, I, I, I, here's the thing. She called me. She called me.

Starting point is 00:59:57 I remember exactly where I was. Yeah. I was sitting in the, I was sitting in the parking lot. You know where the, what's that great fucking breakfast spot on Fairfax, on a sunset in Fairfax. You know what I'm talking about? Right next to director's guild. Across the street from the Starbucks there.

Starting point is 01:00:14 What's it called? The fucking waffle. The griddle. The griddle. Listen bro. He's like an advertisement for smoking weed. You know how much fucking weed he smokes? He remembers everything.

Starting point is 01:00:24 No, I remember that place cause Lindsay, Lindsay Lohan went in there the week of trial. Oh really? Did you ever go in there? Yeah. I mean, that play, how great is that? The only problem I got is that you got to wait online. So I used to pull up there and go peep, peep.

Starting point is 01:00:38 You fucking sheep cock suckers. Yeah. There's bagels across the street. I would pull off and they go, why is he yelling at us? Because you're standing on line for fucking eggs. No, for eggs. For eggs.

Starting point is 01:00:48 Anybody can make an egg. I don't stand in line for food. I can't. Okay, anybody can make an egg, but they have good luck. It's amazing what they do. They do. It really is. It's a breakfast.

Starting point is 01:00:56 It's a breakfast beyond what, you know, you get an omelet like this fucking thing. It's almost like you can't believe what they're doing in there. It's right, right? But the big man, like big potatoes for breakfast. Like chili. Amazing.

Starting point is 01:01:10 Like they got a ton of shit in there. Huge menu. Huge menu. It's a great place. It's a great fucking place. But see we're so packed. So I would just stay in the car and go south and go to Dukes.

Starting point is 01:01:19 Dukes. I like Dukes. Next to Whiskey Go-Go. I like Dukes on Sunset. Yeah, I used to go to Dukes when I first came to town. When I first came to LA, I'd go to Dukes all the time. But I'm sitting there in the fucking parking lot behind. Where's it?

Starting point is 01:01:31 The griddle? The griddle. I'm sitting there in the griddle. And you know, I talked to the director of that movie and she did a movie, she's German. She did a German movie called System Crashers. That was so fucking good. And for me, that's my thing, man.

Starting point is 01:01:46 I just want to work with great directors. I don't give a fuck if it's a big part little, but I really don't care about that. I just want to be with great directors. But I will say, I said to them, look, I can't do this one. I'm too busy, I got too much going on. I can't do this. I can't do another.

Starting point is 01:02:01 I want to work with you, but cutting fish and not doing anything, I can't do it. And then, fucking, Sandy Bull called me. She called me and she just said, look, I need you to do this. I need you. And the truth is, man, call it whatever. I had so much respect for the fact that she did that. She said, I see you in this.

Starting point is 01:02:18 I want it to be you, nor the director loves you. Like, I want to do these scenes with you. And she's like, I'll make it easy on you. We'll get you in and out. But like, I really want it to be you. Like, do this for me. And I'm like, fuck, man. Like, I had, you know, gravity.

Starting point is 01:02:31 I watched Gravity with my kids the other day. I'm Sandy Bullock is a fucking gangster. Sandy Bullock's a gangster, but it's time to go. And a good person. She's a good, good, good person. She got one, let me tell you something else about Sandy Bullock. All these movie stars with their like, you know,

Starting point is 01:02:48 10 person security details and this team of fucking Navy SEALs and all this shit that only draws more attention to them. No one's going to do fucking shit to them anyways, right? Sandy Bullock has got one guy, Pete. I think his name's Pete. And he's a retired LAPD detective. This guy is like, you remember that show Hunter?

Starting point is 01:03:05 Yes. Remember Hunter? Yes. This guy looks like fucking Hunter. This guy, like he's got gray hair. He smokes cigarettes. He's probably like six, five. You know, he'll like carry her bag or carry her sweater.

Starting point is 01:03:15 So he does that. It's just him. It's just him. And we were on the streets of fucking, you know, on Hastings down to Hastings in Vancouver, you know, where like, it's kind of like what skits. It's, it's, it's Canada's skid row is Hastings, right? It's skid row, right?

Starting point is 01:03:31 So it's like, it's just like our skid row. People aren't like shitting themselves. Nobody's got a gun. You know what I mean? So she's walking across the street and he's just, I mean, he's just like this fucking cool ass old handsome dude with his aviator smoking a cigarette, holding her fucking bag.

Starting point is 01:03:45 And all of a sudden she's walking across the street in a scene and some guy out of nowhere just starts running at her. This motherfucker does not even pick up his pace, Joey. He just fucking mid-sentence, fucking puts a cigarette down, walks over, fucking grabs that motherfucker by the arm two inches away from her and just fucking takes him off the street.

Starting point is 01:04:04 It's like she didn't even notice. This guy is like, got her like, he's, he's, he's, and it just says so much about her that that's who's in, you know, they've been together forever. He loves her. He loves the family. I got, I got so much good to say about Sandra Bullock, man. So like she asked, I came, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:04:21 That's okay. I love you. I love you too. I'm happy you swung by today. Get a chance to watch We on the Night. I love it. It's gonna be. We on the city, we on the city.

Starting point is 01:04:30 You know me. Don't matter. I don't even, you know, yeah. Nine o'clock Monday. That's all you need to fucking know. HBO. I love this motherfucker. He's a savage.

Starting point is 01:04:39 One of the best in the business. And if Hollywood goes how I want it, the next Charles Bronson. That's it. Plain and fucking simple. Hopefully he'll win the Oscar and send an Indian to pick it up like Marlon Brando. You know what I'm saying? I love you.

Starting point is 01:04:53 I love you too. Thanks for coming on, buddy. Thank you for having me, bro. All right. I want to thank you motherfuckers. I want to thank John Berndtall for coming on today. I love you guys. I love the support you give me.

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