Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #166 | RICKY WILLIAMS | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ

Episode Date: May 25, 2022

Welcome to UNCLE JOEY’S JOINT..... It’s Wednesday, May 25th.... Today we talked with the Great, RICKY WILLIAMS!! https://instagram.com/williams This podcast is ALWAYS presented by ONNIT! https://www.onnit.com This episode is also brought to you by Stamps.com & CBD Lion.…. Get a 4 week trial plus free postage and a digital scale by using promo code JOEY at https://Stamps.com Go to https://www.cbdlion.com Use Promo Code: JOEY For 20% OFF Your Order! Follow Uncle Joey on Social Media: https://www.Twitter.com/madflavor https://www.Instagram.com/madflavors_world And don’t forget..... The Mind Of Joey Diaz on PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/joeydiaz #JoeyDiaz #Madflavor #UncleJoeysJoint #TheJoint #Onnit #Stamps #CBDLion  #RickyWilliams The JOINT is Produced by: Michael Klein aka @onebyonepodcast on Social Media: https://www.Instagram.com/onebyonepodcast https://www.twitter.com/onebyonepodcast Huge Thanks to BEN TELFORD for the Tremendous intro video..... https://spoti.fi/unclejoeysjoint

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It was fucking great. It was really awesome, guys. It was a great experience. I've been speaking to him for a while and we finally put it together. I'm going to go on his podcast in June. He starts back up. We're going to do like two episodes. So that's where we're at. You know, it's great to have somebody like that that you could, you know, learn from for a little while. That guy's seen it all. That guy struggled. That guy, you know, it's funny. Somebody reminded me of one of his early movies and now I got to fucking watch it because it's one of my favorite movies. The Last Motherfucking Dragon with a. Do you like that too? I love that movie Bruce Lee, Bruce Lee, Bruce Lee Roy, Bruce Lee Roy and the show gun or Harlem and shit.

That's a great fucking movie. I got to see it again. I saw that in the movie. That's how old uncle Joe. Oh shit. Fucking Vanity's in it with a non acting ass Vanity, Mike Clark, Mike star. Fucked a lot of people in that goddamn movie. In fact, I saw that kid my first night in LA. I walked into fucking the comedy store and I saw him talking to Eddie Griffin to star in that movie. Bruce Lee Roy almost fucking died. I almost fucking died. But anyway, with all that aside, today we have a guest, Ricky Williams. I don't know if you remember him from the Miami Dolphins. Great guy. We had to do a zoom. He's in LA. I'm in Jersey, but it was pretty interesting. Got me thinking because I didn't take care of myself to like as a human being. Like, I didn't know what was listening. We don't know what the fuck's going on. You know, you go to the gym, you fucking sleep.

And every week somebody talks to you about carbs. This I didn't know what was going on. But I didn't start taking care of myself mentally till I was like 31 years old. When I started, I don't know, when I got out of fucking jail, I had some doubts about myself and whatnot. Those two years that I had from like 89 to 91 looking back on those years, I fucking struggle a lot. I mean, once I got on stage, that took half the fucking, you know, like when you want to do something, you don't do it. With comedy, I wanted to do it so bad, but I didn't have the balls to do it. So by the time I got to do it, it was such a weight off my fucking shoulders. And I saw all this shit that I was going through was coming from because I would not go on stage for some reason or another.

And if I sit down and really talk to you guys about what made me go on stage, it was clarity. Because I wasn't clear, like I wasn't, I wanted to be a stand up. I didn't have my, I didn't have my goals situated. I wanted to be a stand up comic that was it. I didn't have what level, what degree. I didn't know what I wanted to get into. But the defining moment for me was when I was lost. I was lost as a human being, man.

And I, I don't have to prison after I got married and separated that separation in 91. Really, it just fucked with my head guys. It just made me look in for the first time ever. And I'd seen the things I'd done. I remember the kidnapping and all that shit. And I figured, you know, this is maybe a religious matter. So I looked in my religious fucking life and I said, Oh shit. When I got into that altercation with sister Heisen in the fifth grade, I got thrown out and I never made my confirmation.

And my confirmation is basically the Holy Spirit for you non-Catholics and whatever the fuck you are. Yes, I'm a Catholic geek. So what did I do at the age of fucking 31 after I made my fucking, I got on stage. I went for my confirmation. I did it before I went on stage. I did it before I went on stage. I went for my confirmation and that entered the spirit in me. But guess what?

I didn't feel dick. If he entered me, he had a little dick. I didn't feel nothing. I didn't feel nothing. I was still a little bit less lost. And my brother, my friend, a dear friend of mine that took care of me. His name was Marnelli. That was his last name.

He was working at a kitchen at Naropa Institute in Boulder. And I went over to bullshit with him one day to get a fucking free meal because I was a comic and I was broke. He would tell me, come by and get a free lunch. And, you know, it was a vegan place, but I still went in there, ate seven grain bread and, you know, all that shit because it's free. You got to eat what the fuck is free, you know? So I looked at one of the catalogs from the school while I was sitting in whatever, in his restaurant, at a table. And they had some pretty interesting courses, man. And I went to see a speaker there.

That was my first experience there. I went to see a speaker. I forget what the guy's name is. If I showed you his picture, you know, he's like a fucking well-known. I went to see two guys there, but this was the first one. And it was kind of hippie-ish. I didn't think I belonged there, but the dude was speaking my type of shit. He was talking about spirituality and how you have to connect and all this shit.

And I was lost, man. I was like, I don't know what the fuck this dude was talking about. I smoke reefer. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. So I fucking, I signed up for a walking meditation class and they taught me how to breathe. It was Monday nights. I'll never forget this. And I would go there.

You got to take your shoes at the door. You got to like fucking do something around the thing. And then you would have to have a thought and walk around. I never forgot this stuff, guys. I thought it was so interesting to me. And I did it for a couple of weeks and it got me by. And you know what? It got me over the hump.

And then I didn't look back into that ever again. I just go, I'm cooking with gas now. I don't really have to take care of myself. Yeah, we all do this shit. You know, once I hit 200 pounds, you know, and then we hit 200 and we don't go back to the gym. Once you get your blue belt, you don't go back to jujitsu. You know, there's so many fucking things that. So from 90 fucking one, 92 to 95, it was to get my head back.

You know, it was the first time ever I felt kind of weird in the mornings. And what I was going through last year when I moved here was this. I kept telling people it feels like when I got divorced, I was lost. I didn't have an anchor. And man, when you don't have an anchor and you're fucking lost and you just get up and like I had at that time. Yeah, I was fucking into, you know, writing stuff down like my schedule and I was doing everything. I could to take care of myself that way. But the mind was where and I always had refa.

But the problem with the refa was that I was doing cocaine. And that the refa can't. Nothing works when you're doing cocaine. Nothing works. But that's what I got into. And then when I got into comedy, I said to myself, you know what? I can't even think about the spiritual world anymore because I'm going broke. I'm going broke.

I got to get on the road. I got to do shit. So then you go on the road night and I committed to cocaine. I said, fuck it. I'm not going to go with this shit feeling wounded. I'm just going to do cocaine to whatever. And I never even looked at myself again till I was 44 years old. And that's when, you know, I had to go to Weight Watches.

I had a, you know, and I never, I never really spoke to anybody. But that's when I realized all the things that go together for you to do your job the right way. You know, last year I wasn't doing my job. And I'm still not doing my job the right way because I'm not a hundred percent yet. But I'm getting every day and I do the same shit every day to take care of myself, my mind, I don't put no pressure on myself. I journal, I do a lot of fucking things, but the reefer helps. You know, the, when I was in LA, what I was doing on the church was not the way you smoke reefer.

Guys, we were going, we were savages on that church and everybody around us was savages. It's just the way it was. That's not the proper way to smoke reefer, you know, and I found that out when I got here, when I had to chase the fucking dragon all day. And now I smoke before I go to the gym, maybe before Mike comes and then at night is when I need it. I go on the front of my house and I smoke my little fucking joint. I look at the trees and the mountains and I hear the deer running around and that's my peace of mind right there. You need peace of mind every day.

And some, you know, the pandemic was the best thing that happened because some people got to look at their lives for the first time. But again, after the pandemic blew over and they switched jobs and whatever, they stopped looking after your life. You got to look after your life. It's an everyday check-in. It's an everyday check-in with yourself. You know, when you get older, you're like, fuck, my ankle hurts, my ear hurts. Last week I had 15 pains. If you come to me in the morning and go, Joey, what do you feel?

You know, my knee hurts, my ankle, you know, all that shit, but so is the inside of you. So your insides, they're rough. You got to take care of them. I'm very happy that I signed up with BetterHelp and spoke to them about therapy and I would never do this before. But now, ever since all this shit last year, I tell you what, man, I check up on myself more and ever. I'm very happy I walked away from comedy for a while to get my life in my head together and to just see what the fuck had happened. I needed to see what the... Bro, when you're in it, you're in it.

You think when these guys, I read about these musical tours. Guns N' Roses did like a fucking eight-year tour. You know, when you do that, you ever see the Motley Crew movie when he describes touring? Can you imagine doing that? I'm exaggerating with Guns N' Roses eight years. But all those guys, Motley went on a huge two-year fucking, you know, all these bands went on these huge... When you come back from that, you're a different person, guys. You've forgotten everything.

You're a different person. You've just been in a fantasy for two fucking years. On a bus, jet planes, going to London, hanging out with Lemmy, Ozzy. You don't even know what's what. You don't even know the fuck you are. And that's why when I got back, I was like, you know what, man, I'm not feeling it. I'm going to take a breathe and I'll tell you what, I'm not 150%, but I'm a lot better than what I was. And I'm consistent with it and I'm happy for right now it's working.

So if it ain't broken, don't fix it, Cocksuckers. Listen, it was a pleasure to have this guy on the show. We had a great fucking talk. Enjoy it, Cocksuckers. Ricky Williams. What's happening, little brother? What's going on? Welcome to Uncle Joey's joint.

What's happening, Mr. Williams? I'm just hanging out. You're looking good. What's going on in your world? What's going on? A lot of stuff. A lot of hustling. You teach yoga today?

I did not teach you. I did a little bit of yoga, but I did a little bit of yoga too, my man. So I'm taking your lead. You know what I'm saying? I did a little bit of yoga today. I did a little bit of yoga too, my man. So I'm taking your lead. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Great to have you on. Big fan, big believer in what you're doing now. Wanted to talk to you for years now. Yeah. One of my guys that, you know, I'm falling into your web slowly but slowly. I've been an acupuncture for 15 years. Wow.

You know, because I was 4'18 and I wanted circulation and I used it for a cocaine addiction. You know, it really worked. I mean, no rehab, no hugs, no crying, none of that shit. She just ducked me with needles and she would put an earring on me every week. Like an acupuncture thing because that's addiction thing. Yeah. And I would fucking pop it. I would leave there and go do coke.

I did that for about a year and I got sick and tired of popping the earring and I said, fuck it, Dr. Amy, you got me. So I moved to Jersey now and I got a great acupuncturist, a Japanese Italian lady. Oh wow. The Japanese are very precise, you know, they're very good at what they do. So yeah, it's wonderful. I mean, just that whole way of looking at the body and understanding health is, to me, it saved my life.

Saved my life too. Well, I got one foot in the grave on a banana peel, but I'm pushing every day, Mr. Williams. Amen to that. And we also have another thing in common, which I'm very happy you went public with. And that was social anxiety. I'm a stand-up comic, Ricky. You know, I go out, I do shows, you talk to people afterward in the last four years, like from 216 to 21 to the pandemic, I was starting to get social anxiety.

Yeah. When there'd be too many people. And I've been doing this all my life, you know, cracking jokes. I always have a thousand people around you cracking jokes, but this was something different. It was painful. Yeah. It was starting to get painful. The people who came to the shows probably thought that I just didn't want to talk to them.

Yeah. I couldn't do it anymore. Yeah. I couldn't hold the focus. How did you find out you had it? How did you find out? Yeah. Find out you had it.

Well, I mean, the whole thing, the whole thing of anxiety is you feel it, you know, something that felt comfortable, you notice, you know, something doesn't feel right here. And, you know, as a football player, as a guy, I just tried to push through it and say, like, I just got to push through it. But I got to the point where I realized, you know, maybe this is trying to tell me something, you know, and I think, at least for me as a kid, I was always looking outside to see what I had to do or what I had to be to, to get acceptance from other people. And I worked all the way up to being a professional athlete.

And then I started to realize I actually needed to accept and love myself. And I realized chasing other people's approval put me in a place where I didn't even know who I was. And so I needed to take some time off and be by myself and get to know, get to know myself. And as soon as I did that, the anxiety, you know, 95% of it disappeared because I knew who I was and I started making choices based on what felt good to me, not what I had to force myself to do in order to get other people's approval. You know, that's a beautiful thing because that's how I feel a lot.

Yeah. You know, right now I'm dealing with the standup comedy thing. And I want to go back to it, but I want to go back to it on my terms. Yeah. That's what happened. That's what happened with me. That's exactly what happened with me. Yeah.

But I'm going to tell you something. Even at my terms, I don't think it's going to stick around long. I just don't, I don't know. Sometimes you, I did it. My wife, we had a child when I was 50 and that really turned, you know, I wanted to find myself, you know, when you see a child, as your child is growing, you learn a lot from it. About yourself from that child.

Yeah. At least I did. I would look at that. And then I would compare myself like, man, at eight, eight years old, I was running numbers for a bookmaker. My daughter doesn't have a fucking clue. Yeah. You know, she has no resume, whatever.

But, and that helped. But I think that I wanted, once I got to see my child and I started finding little things out about myself, I want to explore those things too and see what was going on. And last week I was outside. I was, I had his comedy show Thursday night and I was outside with a bunch of kids and moms and just talking shit, you know, and the kids are running around all of a sudden, I got to get my car to go do comedy. That was terrible.

Yeah. I felt awful. You know, sometimes I think we do, you know, it's like going to college. It's like picking a major when you're 18, you don't know shit about fucking life when you're 18. But your parents was an attorney. Yeah. I'm going to go to that.

This ain't me. I just want to sell fruit. Yeah. I just sell apples and sell flowers on the fucking corner and that's what you get put into that pressure. And then the marriage, you know, the college sweetheart and also in the college kid. And it's just, you have to something like for me, last thing I remember Ricky was 1993. You know what?

I know exactly what you mean because I was there and that's when I woke up and I said, you know, there's got to be, there's got to be a different way to live my life. And so I just started, I just really, I just said, fucking, I'm going to do me and see what happens. If it doesn't work, I'll go back to pretended. But I said, I want to at least try being myself and see how it goes. And it just became addictive. I started to enjoy everything, even the stuff that I used to hate.

I started to enjoy because it was about the experience and what I could learn about myself. It wasn't about, you know, checking some box or doing something again to get other people's approval. It's a beautiful thing, man. And then how do you tie in? Because I bought, listen, I was a fucking geek. Mr. Williams growing up. I was a karate dude.

I bowed. I thought Bruce Lee was fucking God, you know, and then like I was a Catholic. I saw people getting high and I didn't like it when I was a kid, but I knew there was nothing wrong with reefer. Even as a kid, I'm like, they just make some giggle. Yeah. I'd see my Godfather do it and my mother do it, but I wasn't allowed to talk on the street what I saw in my house.

Yeah. If you came up to me and you were like, you know, I'm thinking of smoking pot, I'd say fucking do it. Yeah. Because it just makes you giggle. I look at my Godfather, he just sits on the couch and giggles like a fucking idiot. Yeah. You know, it doesn't really affect him.

Like how come my mother had a bar? I don't drink. Yeah. I saw the effects of alcohol. Yeah. You've been around with somebody who's drinking. I can't handle it. That's fine.

I can't do it either. That's all my social goes right the fuck up. I don't understand it. You know, when I go to a bar, I get anxiety. Why? Because I don't fucking drink. Yeah. I want to smoke 10 joints and I can't sit at the bar and talk to it.

It's just a clash. So yeah, I think that's what really like when I got back, when I moved here, after, you know, I moved here in August of 2020, I was like, wow, I don't even know the fuck I am. I moved back to New Jersey where it all started and I didn't know who I was anymore. I was like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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I think the edibles, I'm dropping 1500 milligrams of that devil, So gracious. Yeah, I got a big tolerance. You know, it's just I think that added to the anxiety. That's a little bit of fuel. Yeah, for sure. You know, it's a process to me. Like, you know, what I want I started really dealing with my social anxiety.

I realized it was two things. It was one, it was changing my internal habits of thinking, you know, because that's the main thing. When people say mental health, to me, what mental means is they're talking about what's on the inside, right? And I think, at least for me, the time I was born, I wasn't really worried so much about what was on the inside. I was so worried about what I had to do externally.

And so when I finally started to turn inside, and this is what cannabis really helped me do, you know, that's what happens when we smoke, it makes us more aware of what's going on on the inside. And for a lot of people, if we haven't really been paying attention, it's a lot. You know, it's that feeling when you haven't cleaned something for a long time, you kept the garage, you keep putting it off, and then finally that one day you say, okay, I'm going to go attack the garage, and then you step in and you're like, whoa, it's a lot. Okay.

I think that's when people get paranoid or they get anxious when they smoke is because it's too much, right? And what I realize is that the aim is you have to love and know who you are on the inside. But there's a lot of stuff we've been, we've been piling in there. And so go slow is what I tell people and having someone, it doesn't have to be a therapist, but just having someone you trust who you can really talk to. Because once you get to become more aware of the stuff on the inside, it can't just stay there.

It actually has to move. And so having someone, again, doesn't have to be a therapist, but having someone you trust who you can actually talk to, who's not going to judge you, that's the process is get in touch with what's going on on the inside and find someone you can talk to about it. And then it starts to move. And you start to see it. And then it's not so scary because it's buried.

It's out in the front. So you can actually do something with it. And did you, I speak to a therapist once a week just to, you know, keep everything balanced. I got my wife. I can tell her whatever the fuck I want. She's cool with me like that. So I, but this is life though. This is life.

To me, this is like, we pretend and we've been taught it's not, but this is life. And if we, if you have like a wife that you can tell anyone, if you have any person in your life that you can talk to about anything, to me, that's the most important medicine, most important medicine you can have in life is just at least one person that has your back and you can tell them anything and they're going to, they're going to love you through it. To me, as soon as I had that half of my anxiety disappeared, you know, because I think as, as we're, we're social beings and we need connection, but even a, we have a lot of friends.

That's a superficial connection, you know, as social beings, we need a deep connection with someone and a deep connection means someone who's seen your ass, you know, someone who's seen all of you and they still love you. When you have that, like, I think you can take on anything in the world. My wife smelt my feet. She loves me dog. Yeah. Yeah.

It's real. I think it's fun guy, toenail, cheesy shit. That's not good. So if she stuck around for 22 years, I could tell her anything. Yeah. You're doing something right. You're doing something right. No, I dig what you're saying.

And I dig, you know, when you first retired, you know, I was listening to you and I remember having conversations with Rogan about you on planes. We would just talk about you. And I'm like, you know, I go, you know what probably happened, man? Sometimes I think marijuana helps you. You know, the great Bill Hicks had a joke and I love this joke. He said, marijuana, don't make you lazy. It just makes you realize that what you're going to do ain't worth getting up.

Amen to that. 100%. That's it. That's it. And sometimes you smoke a joint, you're like, whenever I got a problem, you know, before I started talking to therapy, I would just smoke a joint, go for a walk. That's the answer for me. That's what worked.

A little walk. I need material. I smoke a little bit. Go for a walk. It's been working for thousands of years, thousands of years. That's, you know, if we look at our history, we were hunters and gatherers. We were nomads. And so when we got to a place and all of the food and all of the water and everything dried

up, we, we smoked one and we started walking, right? And we found a new place to settle and build. It's ancient. It's ancient medicine. It's real. You like that it's legalized now. I know you were always going after it. That was one of your main things like Cypress Hill.

One thing, the main thing is you look at all the people, not only the people that are still in prison, but the people that have served time, the people who's ruined their life, lost their jobs, all of the people that have been punished because of this plan has been illegal. That's my, that's my biggest gripe is people are, I mean, we, we say in the, in the constitution or the Declaration of Independence, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Like if that's not what cannabis is about, then I mean, what are we doing? So to me, to be Americans and to say people can't consume a plant to help them, help some feel better.

That's ridiculous. It's crazy. It's un-American. I also feel a lot better since I've been doing CBD every day. Yeah. Yeah. I, I'm sponsored by a great company and they sent me a full spectrum and you know, I do two times a day.

I hit that and my life's been a little bit more slower. Yeah. It's a little bit more tranquil, you know, like you're feeling, I hate saying those words. People like Joy, what are you talking about? Yeah. It's a little bit more tranquil at night. You know, I had to learn to re-issue my sleep again and I think that helped me out also. You know, I gave up on me and my tolerance is so high.

I got to smoke like 35% weed to get high. But now I got a system. I just smoke in the morning and I smoke at night and I'm good when I would be Snoop Dogg and smoke all day. All day? Yeah. Yeah. It wouldn't work for me.

Yeah. And this is after, like I said, I've been smoking since I was 13 and I hit it for two or three years. I was ashamed to smoke. Mr. Williams, I'll tell you why, because I was a Catholic, but whatever I was feeling, that shit I had at that age, because in the seventies, nobody spoke about anxiety. It disappeared whenever I smoked pot. And after my mother died, I really dove into marijuana.

That was my savior to keep my head in chill. And then I just came to terms that this is something I'm going to do the rest of my life. Yeah. This is something that I know. It keeps my powder dry. Yeah. Like that dude treat William said in something, some, some fucking movie I was watching, he kept saying it keeps my powder dry.

Yeah. That's important. You know, it is very important. Yeah. Life is short. And if we, you know, our powder is wet too much, you know, we waste time, waste time. Well, it takes you under and it doesn't let you grow and see life for what it is when you have.

It's like acupuncture. You have a blockage. You have a fucking blockage in one of your, uh, you know, the sense, the radiance, radiance. This is a blockage. You're going to open up that blockage and we have blockages all over our body when we wake up in the morning and throughout the day we have different things, but still we have our breathing, our yoga, you know, walking on the grass with no feet on to connect to the earth.

We have so many things. My pool opens up, uh, this weekends, you know, and I'm so excited because I could walk on the grass barefoot. So, so how does it feel? How does it feel when you're around your like old friends and you start talking like this? Like, do they look at you like you're crazy? Do you not talk about this stuff or like, how do you, how do you deal with that? Whenever my friends call me the Jersey ones, the fucking, you know, the knuckleheads that

I love till the end of time. Yeah. Because California, you know, I went to Colorado first. I was a motherfucking boulder for 12 years. Okay. Yes. You got a lot in bold. I went to Naropa Institute, you know, those guys, I learned how to meditate.

I was always looking for an answer. I've always been looking for what makes you feel good spiritually and mentally. I'm a Cuban dude. So I got Santaria. Yeah. Santa Maria is the spiritual life. The people who look over you, you know, the people that you pray for, that you light a candle for on Mondays, that they are people who watch you.

So I always understood all these things about life. I went to Boulder. I learned a lot there. And then you go to Cali and you talk to people who are smarter than you and they really open your eyes to a lot of things that make sense. I'm so rooted in Catholicism and my Santaria roots from Cuba, but I, at heart, I'm a Buddhist. I really believed the whole thing. You know, I read a lot of the readings.

I'm like, I don't even know where I put the book after the move, but I really always have thought of that Buddhist lifestyle, you know, karma, what you put in, you get out, you know, all those things. They've always made sense to me. So I've always been in search of and, you know, at about 10 months from being 60 and I'll tell you what has always worked for me. If I got to say what has worked for me, it has been my marijuana use. It kept my powder dry all those years, you know, and then when I got locked up, I couldn't

smoke for those 18 months or whatever. And I consider that a big help at that time. I needed to, when I got locked up, I needed to absorb what the fuck was really happening. If not, I would be back out there doing the same shit I was doing, Ricky Williams. Oh, I hear you. So you have to, you know, you have to clean everything out and fuck and absorb what's really happening. I'm getting punished for something I fucking did.

This isn't a fucking joke. This isn't a fucking joke anymore. Okay. I got people at home waiting for me. I got people like disappointed. It's fucking time. But then I got out of jail and I started doing the same shit again. And then I realized I hadn't made my confirmation in 91 right before I got into comedy.

And that's when I went to the Naropa Institute and I joined up and two months later I got into comedy and that's where a sort of a peace came. It was a peace, but there was still skeletons that had to be taken care of. So since that time to now, you know, I tell people all the time, you got to check on your skeletons from time to time because then those motherfuckers come on and check on you. It's not good. So it's too late. It's too late.

If they're checking on you. It's too late. Yeah. Yeah. So you have a medical marijuana company now? I do. I have a medical marijuana and I have a recreational marijuana company. So my medical marijuana company is called Real Wellness and it's really when I started

consuming cannabis, I started learning about other herbs and realized, you know, that herbs are a much more humane, safer way to go to take care of our body than pharmaceuticals. And then my recreational cannabis company is called Heisman, H-I-G-H-S-M-A-N and it's not about a trophy. It's about having these kinds of conversations and talking about how getting high or consuming cannabis actually helps us find true happiness and achieve our goals, meaningful goals. Because for me, I was chasing external goals and I reached them, but they weren't meaningful. I started consuming cannabis, getting more in touch with my internal goals.

And as I've pursued and reached those, it's been much more fulfilling. And it's funny. You asked me before what happens when I talk to my friends about this. Whenever my friends call me and then a pinch, I refer, you know, acupuncture. I refer maybe a little reefer, maybe a little writing, you know, I think that they look at me and they think I'm fucking crazy. I'm a big journal. You know, if you don't have something on paper, you really can't see what your situation

is. How many nights have I gone upstairs and gone to sleep and there's one fucking hang in the nail will not let you fall asleep. And then you toss and turn all night when that shit happens to me. All bets are off. I come downstairs. I open the notebook. Let's talk about what the fuck is bothering me.

Mr. Williams came over and took two joints instead of one. You know, what am I going to do about this? I have to call this motherfucker and tell him, come on, Ricky, you took two joints instead of one, those little and that, that's me, but that's who I am. I got hung up on those little things, you know, when you smoke pot and make you look within. So when I go to an audition, you start looking within and it's dangerous because you're going to get the truth.

Yeah. When you do stand up and you tape it, your performance and you take it back to your room and you do a little reefer and then you listen to it because I don't want to watch me, but I'll listen to like pivotal jokes just to see if I'm saying them right. Jesus Christ. It makes it. It cleans house. For me, reefer has been a spiritual confession.

That's how I call my consumption of reefer. You know, there's recreational reefer for me and then there's the reefer for my mind. I smoke it. I take a walk around the park. I sit down on the bench. I breathe a little bit. You know, I focus on my third eye, you know, just little things like that. This is beautiful, man.

This is this is beautiful. Two men having this conversation and I hope that I hope people listen. I hope people listening are getting curious about what the hell we're talking about, you know, because it's real. I mean, these these little moments of when we can like reclaim a sense of peace and like balance ourselves, like everything lines up. See, I don't think I think enlightenment. I think we've all experienced glimpses of enlightenment, you know, and I think when

they talk about the Buddha becoming enlightened, he was just able to hold it more consistently but we all have had those glimpses where everything just feels like, you know, those times you look in the mirror and you're like, damn, you know, everything's going well. That's enlightenment. It's just how can we how can we keep it going? How can we make it more consistent? Now, where is your marijuana company located? California, obviously, we're based in California, but we also are in Oregon and we're in

conversations right now with, you know, several other states. So we're, you know, it's our it's our intention to become a national brand and really get this conversation, this type of conversation going going on, you know, not even only throughout the country, but really throughout the world. Because like you said, it's like refer, you know, it's medicine. And I think people used to talk about medicinal marijuana and still people would laugh. But when we're when you see two people who are actually are using it this way and sharing their experiences, you know, and obviously people are interested enough in us to be

listening to this. So I, you know, I think this is wonderful. I think this is wonderful. I'd like to offer you whenever you want to come on. You're always welcome. If you want to promote anything, talk about anything, any new enlightenments that you have. Yeah, that'd be great.

Let me ask you a couple of questions. I'll get you out of here. Yeah. Is there any part of you that misses football at any level? There's not a part of me that misses football, but there is something I miss about football. And the thing I miss about football is when you show up for work, there's no excuses, you know, everyone like the coach tells you what your job is. And then you go out there and execute.

And then after work, after practice, you go back in and you watch the film and you see how am I doing? So just this attitude of excellence that there's no excuses. We just work towards excellence on a daily basis. I miss that. I miss that. I mean, I have it within myself. I push myself that way. But, you know, in the football world, that's what everyone is there for.

But I find in the regular world is almost the opposite, where people are always making excuses and pretending, you know, that they're not responsible for what's going on in their life. And so, you know, you talked about the law of karma, the law of karma. That's what I loved about football. It was real. Like the film doesn't lie, you know, the film doesn't. Did you do your job?

Right? You can see it right there. And if you didn't, right, you have help to help you get better. And I just love that idea because to me, that's life is is the linebackers, you know, the bills, the issues, the people, they don't stop, right? But your ability to meet all of them and do your job and handle them with dignity and respect, you keep growing and you keep learning and life becomes worth it. You know, it becomes worth it. You know, you were always a beautiful man and you become a more beautiful of a man.

And the reason I asked you if you had any inclination about football ever football is changing, football is changing across, you know, everywhere. I mean, it's you, they play in England, whatever. But it's changing in the United States. You know, when I was growing up, there were, I don't know, eight football teams for the town of North Bergen. Now there's like four, you know, moms are not putting their children in. And even though we're getting extra helmets, we're getting better padding.

The NFL is doing technology, whatever. I think that you would be a fucking tremendous coach to the youth. Yeah, I think that you would build a different type of football player. One would be more complete and one that would be in charge and in connection with his body. You know, like if you got them at eight and nine and coach them till 13, 14, then let them out into the world. The lesson you would give them because you're not, you didn't read a fucking

book, you would end the trenches, you know, one of the best. You were there, but I'm sure that you could have been better if your mind. 100%. And that's what I would love to see. If I had an eight year old son, even if my wife said, no, fuck you, he's going to Ricky Williams, whatever, coach him for two years until he gets to 12 because he's going to be a different man going into football. You have enlightened yourself to a fucking degree that is beautiful.

And it's not phony. It's not a wokeness like everybody's. No, it comes from your heart. I could feel it. I see it when you interviews, you know. So I think that you have a lot to offer young men, man. And I don't know how you felt about football, but you have the ability to change it. I'm on the same page with you.

I mean, the way it was didn't work out for me, but I learned so much and it helped me become who I am. So I feel like I do have a responsibility to give something back. And football is changing. And I've always thought because football trained me to be the man that I am today. And I think it's a it's a it's a mistake to say that that football is is not a positive thing because it teaches teamwork. It teaches toughness.

It teaches how to take care of your body. It teaches how to take care of the person next to you. And I think if we cherish these values as using football to train young men to be leaders, not millionaires, you know, I think that I think that's going to be more useful. That's what happened. And that's what happened to change the game a lot with college and stuff. There's not, you know, I watch I'm a Cuban kid.

I never spoke English. So when I came to the United States, I watched everything I could and I watched football and it's changed. You know, I see him playing on the street and stuff like that. But I think we can make way better football players. I think football got away from itself. I mean, I was at the gym before and I'm watching a football player beat up an ex football player beat up a guy at Newark Airport.

You see that? Yeah, I did. Clock the head. The guy went over, but it's funny that, you know, when you play football, you're built to be rough and tough. I think in life, there's places to be rough and tough. There's places to be gentle. There's places to be gentle and rough and tough together. Amen. That's the new men that are coming up, you know, that's

that's what's coming up, you know? So if you have a coach, man, I'd be a number one fucking advocate. Even if you just did Ricky Williams football summer camp, I'll be there to coach you. I love camps. I love five star basketball camp. I went to booze. I went to Joe Namath's football camp. I didn't even the playing football. I went to offense, defense football camp in Pittsburgh. I saw Jack Lambert shaving and dipping his fucking razor in the toilet

water as he was shitting. You know, you can't tell that we got a shit. Now, Jack Lambert's mentality, nobody could get through to a guy like that. You know, like if you swent to Jacksonson, listen, I think you should have Buddhist and reefer to your life. That motherfucker would take his teeth out. No, those were solid dudes, you know? Yes, yes. The world is changing. Yes. The world is changing. Ricky Williams, you're a fucking master and I love for what you did.

And listen, you said something before that triggered me a little bit. You said that whatever happened with football, no, man. That was what you need. That's what needed to happen for you to get to where you are right now. To get into that clarity. You didn't fail. You didn't do nothing. It was just who you were then. Yeah. And this is who the motherfucker you are now. You can't put football down because it's a party.

When I look at you, I see the man. I see you running at me and me just fucking fainting, you know? Yeah, because it's probably going to hurt. Yeah. Well, this was great. This was great. It was good, good connecting with you and really having like a like a heart to heart with another man. Thank you. Thank you. No, I didn't want this to be. I didn't think it was going to be reefer or whatever.

But I always had a bone to pick with you because you opened my eyes about the social anxiety. I didn't know what was going on. I looked it up and I read the article. This is two years ago, I read the article about the helmet. You didn't like taking it off to make eye contact and stuff. And that's when you discover it and blah, blah, blah. My heart goes out to you and your family.

You're a fucking gentleman and a half. When I come to California, I'm coming to visit in your office and shake your hand and give you a hug. And maybe we'll do a bong here for Jesus together. Let's do it. Let's do it, man. How strong is your reefer over there? That high Smith is strong. When they wear it, we're above 30 percent, all three straights. Oh, shit. So we're seeing the devil.

Exactly. We're seeing Tom Landry and shit. And I'm saying, who else we got to come up on this? He's got a lot of knowledge for young players. I tried to talk to him on the phone. He was still a little Hollywood Henderson. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I know Hollywood. We connected when I was in Austin. Yeah. He did. He hit the lottery twice or something.

I know. It's crazy. Bad motherfucker. I still have his book. I still got his book and I still have the original Playboy interview from 1980. I remember best interview I have ever read in my life, man. So hey, it was always a pleasure. Thank you. God bless you and your family. And I love you, man.

What's the name of the recreational spot? Heisman. Heisman. I love you, brother. Stay black and beautiful. I sure will. All right, Joey. Yeah. Stay black. All right. I want to thank you, motherfuckers, for supporting this week. We had a great week. Chas, myself fucking Ricky, Mike, we're all here, man.

It's Memorial Day on Monday. We will be doing a show. We'll see you guys Monday morning. Have a great fucking weekend. You know, be careful. Don't drink and drive. And that's it, cocksucker, smoking drive. But use light or viseen and a lot of fucking tic-tacs.

That's all I got for you. Laughing gas forever. It's there. Stopping tomorrow, Thursday. Tell them Uncle Joey sent you at the ice cream shop. Pick up some fucking edibles. Pick up some fucking laughing gas. I don't know. It's fucking Memorial Day weekend. Stay black.

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