Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #192 | ROB SHAFFER | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ

Episode Date: August 31, 2022

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Starting point is 00:03:02 That's 20% off and free shipping with code JOE at Manscape.com. It's Summer Sack, so get your shit together cocksuckers, and now it's time for the joint. Check one, two, welcome to Uncle Joey's joint. What's happening you bad motherfuckers? Welcome to another fun-filled episode of the fucking joint. It's Wednesday the 31st of the month, that's it, it's over. We did another month, we got four months left in the year, this is my favorite fucking quarter of the year. I love fucking going all out, I got comedy shows, I got a ton of shit going on. But anyway, I have a guest today in motherfucking studio.
Starting point is 00:04:41 This guy, my wife asked me who I had in the podcast today and I told her, the most interesting guy I've met since I've been in New Jersey. Welcome Mr. Rob Schaefer to the fucking joint. We're breaking his podcast cherry to boot too, so what's happening brother? Everything's great, well thank you for having me, I appreciate it. Oh man, ever since I met you I've been a different fucking animal. We met through Jiu Jitsu, we have a mutual friend Rob's story, oh he didn't go to class today. He was in class today.
Starting point is 00:05:08 He was? He was in class today. Okay good, I didn't think he went to class, but we met through him, he introduced me to Mr. Schaefer because he said maybe he could help you out with the breathing and shit. You know I love doing Jiu Jitsu, I just suck at it, but I keep showing up. But I think this guy's story is interesting for anybody who wants to do anything with their life, so tell us how it started, you were a stockbroker in the city, right? I was a stockbroker in the city, I wasn't your typical like yuppie Ivy League guy that went to Harvard
Starting point is 00:05:39 and became a stockbroker, you know my dad was in New York City Fireman. I was a high school dropout and I actually coached hockey at Manor Road in St. Allen, which I'm sure you're familiar with, right? Okay, yes. I was the owner of Manor Road, I used to coach the Senate Hockey and the owner of Manor Road owned a broker dealer called Joseph Stevens in Manhattan on 59 Maiden Lane and one day when I was like 20 years old, he's like Rob, what are you going to do when you grow up? And I was like I'm going to be a professional hockey player and he took me on his side, he's like,
Starting point is 00:06:06 let me tell you something, you're never going to be a professional hockey player. I was like well thanks a lot for the confidence, you know, well what should I do in my life? He was like oh why don't you come work for me, I own a broker dealer. I didn't even know what a stock was at the time, but I decided to take the opportunity and whatnot and I went there. I worked for 14 years on Wall Street, did very, very well. Due to a really unfortunate circumstance in my life, when I was 33, I had an ex-patch away, really fucked my head up a little bit and I decided to spend the next year of my life on a bender
Starting point is 00:06:37 that probably could have killed half of the Rolling Stones, you know. And then at the very end of that is when I found Jiu-Jitsu. How did you find Jiu-Jitsu? What made you go in there? During everything I always worked out, I was always in the gym. It could have been the worst day of my life, I could have been hungover, I was just a gym rat since I was a little kid. So I was in the gym, long story short, you know, these guys are carrying mats through the gym to set up this little room in the back and I figured they were doing like a yoga room or some shit like that,
Starting point is 00:07:03 but one of the guys I ended up going to high school with and actually grew up next to him since I was five years old. His name is Gus Branstetter, he's a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu. And we wrestled together and he was like oh it's great to see you, you would love Jiu-Jitsu. It's just like wrestling but with submissions, so why don't you come? So I'm like 230 pounds at the time, like fucking jacked. I look like a big beach ball, like a retard, like all the guys at the jersey, sure, you know. And I go to the class and it was cool. And then at the end he's like all right, we're going to do live rounds now and you're going to roll with this guy.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And the guy he points to, by the way his name is Dave Zanario, they call him Super Dave. He is a black belt then, he's still a very good black belt, very big competitor. He's about 125 pounds, if that, okay, I'm 230 at the time. And he's about five foot four, okay. So they're like you're going to roll with him. And I tell my friend Gus, I was like I'm not going to roll with this guy, I'm going to fucking hurt this guy. I don't want to roll with him. So yeah, go hurt him.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I said all right. So I roll with Dave, I had 110 pound weight difference between me and him. He beat the living shit out of me. When I tell you like probably submitted me 25 times in five minutes. And that was because he was being nice, you know. So after that, that was it. I was like whatever the hell this guy just did to me, I need to learn how to do that. And I need to learn it quick because that's never happened again.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Now, seven years later, it still happens every time I roll with him. But it's just, you know, now you know the game. There's always those levels and he's always up there. Yeah, but that's how I got into it. And I really, really fell in love with it. Really dedicated the past six years to training. I train three, four times a day sometimes between not just jiu-jitsu, but jiu-jitsu, the gym, the breath work that you and I have been doing together and things of that nature.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And it's changed my life in the best possible way I could ever imagine. How long did you stay at that school? I was only at that school for a few months, not for any better reason, just because I ended up moving. So I went up to North Jersey and I was training at a school called Pure MMA. I think they're the biggest in New Jersey. They have like 1,500 students in Rockaway. Andy and Mikey Main. Andy was on the Ultimate Fighter and he was the king of pancreas and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And Mikey's just another young, talented guy. But more importantly, they're just, like most people you meet, but they're just two of the greatest people. They built a beautiful facility. They have a great student base. And I trained there for a long time until I met Cyborg and then transitioned to fight sports and not training with Steve as well when I'm in New Jersey. Now, where'd you meet Cyborg? So I met Cyborg.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So when I first got into jiu-jitsu, I really, really wanted to be great at it. And I kind of got discouraged because I started at 35, you know, and you see all these world champions out there that are like 18, 19, 20 years old. So I thought I was very late and it was discouraging because I was still rolling with younger guys, but I didn't think I'd ever had the ability to accomplish much starting so late in my life. So I met Cyborg at, uh, at Nogi Worlds, I believe, or maybe, yeah, Nogi Worlds, uh, three years ago, I think it was 2019, like right before COVID. And I watched him at 40 years old, you know, win a world championship.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Actually, I'm sorry. I think in the finals of that, he blew out his knee in it. Um, but nonetheless, last year, for example, at 40 years old, he wins an adult world championship. You know what I mean? Like guys, a seven-time world champion, ADCC champion, and he's still winning at the highest level at my age. So once I met him, I was like, all right, there's my motivation. I'm going to be the broke man's version of that guy.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So now he trains in Florida. He trains out of Miami. So you moved to everything. I went down there to go move. Okay. I trained there with him. I went down there to move. He invited me to join the team, come back.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And now I'm moving, right? Moving down April 15th, 2020. And I lived in Miami. I mean, I lived in Miami in 2013. April 15th, 2020. I had my realtor appointments to look at places and fucking COVID happens, right? So they canceled all realtor appointments. You couldn't even go into apartments or houses to look at them at that time.
Starting point is 00:11:01 So I said, all right, you know what? I'll sit tight as soon as this shit is over. If thinking it's going to be what, a week, you know, two weeks, three a month, right? Then I'll go move down. Well, here we are now three years later. Things are finally just subsiding and the prices down there are more than doubled. So I'm still probably to a fault, so loyal to that team. I will never compete under any different team.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I'd rather quit. You just do, but I'm training right now with, you know, Steve and inferno. As you know, I'm up here. They're super supportive and help me as much as they can while I'm here. The thing that impresses me the most about you is you became a champion. At the age of 40, 30, yeah, 40, 40. And it's really interesting that after I spoke to you, you're a champion. I mean, you're a champion in life because you put everything you have into this.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Like, you know, the ability that you have as a stockbroker to work and make money, you pushed that aside to make, to be happy, which a lot of people don't even understand that concept. They will never think about that. They'll never adjust it because they're scared. They won't be able to make money. You took a chance. You put some money away and you said, this is what I want to do.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I'm going to change my budget. You drive a car like me, a Subaru, you kept all the, you kept your fucking over at low and you've dedicated yourself to training. That's a day that's spectacular. The truth of that is that if it wasn't for Jiu Jitsu, I wouldn't have done that because, you know, the business that I was brought up and it was about, you know, who has the most towards the biggest house, who has the nicest car, the nicest watch, and you never were happy.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You know, you could have made a million dollars and the guy down the hall made two million and, you know, you weren't good enough. Once you start training Jiu Jitsu, as I'm sure you know, because you meet so many people from all walks of life, none of that shit mattered to me anymore. I was like, you know what, I'm happy doing this and if I can just do this effectively and enjoy myself, I'm good. And I did. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:13:01 Through Jiu Jitsu, my business exploded. I got into another business now. I'm doing solar. That's exploded just from people that I met through Jiu Jitsu. I'm here with you because of Jiu Jitsu. 99% of my great friends in life I've met through Jiu Jitsu. So it's really, you know, it's the sport that changes, not just me, but anyone you talk to that really falls in love with it.
Starting point is 00:13:22 It has the biggest impact on my life and anything I can imagine. I read all this stuff online about Jiu Jitsu as a cult, Jiu Jitsu as this. And it's really hard to explain to people the satisfaction you get from Jiu Jitsu. I went to karate as a kid. I did everything. You know, I tried everything at least one time. When I walked into that Jiu Jitsu place for the first time, because I had dear friends that were already in the fucking game, their masters of this shit.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Right. And they couldn't get me to do it. And one day I just watched a match and I'm like, I like this better than that old MMA shit. I saw a beauty in Jiu Jitsu that I never saw in anything else. Like I saw it in basketball. Of course. You see it in baseball. There's a certain beauty to it.
Starting point is 00:14:07 But Jiu Jitsu just grabbed me and Jiu Jitsu is a life changer for some people. Like it was for you. Jiu Jitsu lets you know how fucked up you really are. And the things you gotta, yeah, you're going for a blue belt. You're going for this. But there's so many personal things. Like for me, I was a mouth breather. So we're working on that now, right?
Starting point is 00:14:28 Right. But no. I mean, listen, I've got my nose broken 18 times and then you put two pounds of coke in there. I ain't gonna help your nostrils of breathing. I still remember getting surgery. Like all the surgeries I've gotten since 2013 and help me with Jiu Jitsu. But they showed me that I like to breathe. Like I never knew I wasn't breathing properly.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I had no fucking idea. I would walk stairs and go, why am I fucking out of breath? It's three fucking stairs, you know. And then you learn, I realized I couldn't breathe right. That's what I was doing. So forget your Jiu Jitsu. I had to learn how to breathe right. And then I had a surgery on my knee.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And why did I get it? And I'm like, I'm never gonna go back to Jiu Jitsu after the surgery. Are you fucking kidding me? You don't even let the knee heal. And you gotta go back. And the thing I noticed about Jiu Jitsu is one thing. Like I was going to kickboxing for a while at this kickboxing in America. You know, I had gone from 418 pounds to about 270 and I wanted to keep my weight there.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I wasn't involved in Jiu Jitsu before. But I would go to these kickboxing places and I would see these guys with the rash guards and the fucking knee pads and the fucking pants and greased hair. And they're fucking hitting me for real. And I'm like, can I ask you a question? What do you do for a living? I'm a fireman. I'm a fireman.
Starting point is 00:15:45 A fucking fireman. You know, so it was a little too real for me. Like that kickboxing place, it was like people were trying to always over prove themselves. Then you walk into a Jiu Jitsu gym. And the first day they'll say to you, go with that guy. And as you're going with this guy, he's beating you up. You're not breathing right. But he'll stop and go put your hand here.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Put your hand over here. Do this. Do that. The people you meet, that's never been done. Like I never had that before. You know, I was, I went through a really bad period for about a year after I moved there. I was confused. And I walked into Gracie one day and fucking, they were very nice to me.
Starting point is 00:16:27 You know, and a week later I had to have knee surgery and I had this Corona fear. I had the Corona fear. Listen, man, I was asking somebody the other day, how come all these people haven't gone back to work? Like there's a lot of people, like I just read somewhere else that they can't do this year because they don't have enough employees. People don't realize they're still Amazon. There's still a lot of people that are hiding in the houses, guys. I want you to know that. There's still a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:16:56 What about all these people that I lost their jobs for not getting vaccinated? Now you don't need a vaccine anymore for anything, but these people still lost other jobs. Well, the thing with me was, I, like, I, if you're a union and they fight Joe with his vaccine, you better call them up and say, listen, we're taking these motherfuckers to court. I'm union. Can't fucking fire me over this. These cops that lost their jobs and firefighters. It's funny because when I went to LBI this year, I met some fire lady, like a fire woman, a firefighter.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I was a female and then she crossed the street with like 10 other chicks and they were all yoked and shit. And she was telling me that they became firefighters during the pandemic because all these guys, so they were like, we'll take the fucking vaccine. You don't need my, yeah, I don't need my uterus. I'll take the fucking vaccine. I'm a lesbian. My heart flop next week. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah. So it's so weird how everything has changed. Oh, but back to Jiu Jitsu, I was a mask guys. Mike would come on when I'm like, you got to go. Like, like I couldn't take it no more. I couldn't, I would be afraid to get him sick or for me to get sick from him. He's got kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I didn't dog. That was my biggest fucking fear was somebody going, Joey, I'm dying because I went and smoked the joint with your stupid ass. And I didn't want to. So I didn't encourage it. But the kid called me, Sean, coach Sean from Hollis Grace. He's like, bro, what are you doing? I go, nothing.
Starting point is 00:18:18 My knee goes, come in and just exercise. At the time I was going to the gym and stuff, dog, I was so scared of COVID when he put me in a closed guard and he was like breathing on me. I'm like, I'm going to fucking die. Jiu-Jitsu ruined my life. Jiu-Jitsu ruined my life. And he threw me around a couple minutes and shit. I'm like, oh, this is tremendous.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I conquered COVID fear all in one day. I went to acupuncture the first day, September 22nd. I went to Jiu-Jitsu and then I had the hardest thing of ever. I had to go to the city for the premiere of the soprano movie with 2,000 people on the beacon theater. I still remember getting jumping out of the car and a bunch of people hugging me and going, I'm dying. Yeah, I'm not going to make it home.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I'm dying at this movie theater. And the next week I went to Jiu-Jitsu and my fear was gone. Yeah. I went to their seminar and I went upstairs and there was like 60 people upstairs. Oh boy. And I forced myself and everybody was so fucking nice and people were so cool. And I joined Jiu-Jitsu basically for social reasons and for health reasons because I know the people I'm going to have around me are going to be the best people.
Starting point is 00:19:31 100%. This morning I was talking to a guy from the FBI in my class. I'm a fucking criminal. And he's talking to me for 20 minutes about kids. He's in charge of organized crime. He goes to the city every day for fucking, and here I am talking to him. A couple of weeks ago it was me, him, and an actual gangster in class. He only trains in the gi though so you can't see the wire, right?
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah, you can't see the fucking wire. It's just a great thing. And now I have all these friends from Jiu-Jitsu. They call me some of them smoke weeds. I meet the one Asian guy. We smoke a number from time to time. And it's great and I'm getting healthy. Like today I burned 511 fucking calories.
Starting point is 00:20:10 That's a lot of calories for a fucking day. Doing something fun that you enjoy. Oh my God. And I'm getting beat up. Coach, come on. You know I'm getting beat up. I did get in the Americana today. There you go.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Simple. I could never get those. I could never get those. And that's the game I want to play. So I've been working on just simple Americana's, Kamoros, and side control. And it's just, like right now I want to do comedy part time, but I want to do Jiu-Jitsu full time. Even though I suck at it. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:20:40 We were just talking about recuperation. And we were talking about I want to lift twice a week and then go to Jiu-Jitsu three times a week. But I can't do it. Like my goal was to hit five classes one week and I hit four. But that's fine. You know what the goal should be? To have as many classes as you can and still do your best at them. Like even when I train twice a day, six, seven days a week, by the sixth or seventh day I'm not getting really good training.
Starting point is 00:21:06 It's my body's falling apart. I'm 41 as well. You know what I mean? I'm getting up there in age. I don't recover like I used to. I'm just a little bit retarded. If I don't train twice a day I lose my mind. So like it's the lesser of two evils.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I'm a big believer in like destroying your body to fix your mind if you've ever heard that saying before. You know? And when I'm destroying my body I have no stress. I'm happy as can be. All the endorphins come out. I leave that room feeling great. Then I can go deal with all the bullshit I have to deal with afterwards. You know?
Starting point is 00:21:32 You know it was really impressive. What really impressed me about it was a couple years ago on the church when I had the previous podcast. I don't know. Me and Lee were talking about something. I did about 20 minutes about my day. Do you remember that podcast? I go, let me tell you. There was a couple new podcasts.
Starting point is 00:21:48 No. But that was like, I wanted people to understand. Like people think that you just go up on stage at 8 o'clock at night and people fall down laughing. Right. And you walk off the stage and people throw coke at you. This is what people think. And you go into the green room and somebody's sucking your dick and all day you sleep and you party, you know. And people have no idea.
Starting point is 00:22:10 When you get to a certain level. Like, okay, we see guns and roses now. All right. Guns and roses is not partying no more. They're not partying. They're clean and sober. They're old and, you know. So what do they do now?
Starting point is 00:22:23 If you talk to them, like I don't talk to them, but if you look into their day, I guarantee all five of them are working out. I know Duff goes, he's a fucking kickboxer. He trades with fucking crazy man. When Duff, for Duff to get healed, when his fucking liver blew up or whatever rupture for drinking. He went to one of the group. That's Benny the Jet. Okay. So he trains at Benny the Jet when he's in town.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And I think he takes him on the road on the tour. That's cool. I would train him. I would too. So, you know, people think like a guy like you walk in, you got a nice build, you know, you're healthy, you're strong. They think you just pull up with your Maserati, go and beat up three people and get back in your car and go home. Tell me about your day. Tell me about your supplement intake.
Starting point is 00:23:09 All right. So these people know the road to a champion. Well, my day is seven days a week, but that doesn't mean I actually do it seven days a week. You know, I do have businesses that I run and whatnot. So I plan on training two, three times a day, every single day, seven days a week. And when people ask me how much I train, I tell them I train every day. But life happens sometimes and I don't actually train on those days. I just never plan on not training for a day.
Starting point is 00:23:32 You know, like I'm leaving for Worlds on Thursday, so I took off today and tomorrow to let my body recover. Okay. I still tell people I train every day, but I didn't train today and I'm not training tomorrow. But when I'm healthy, which as you get older, that's half the battle, right? I have, you know, two blown-out knees, two herniated, this is my back, you know. When I'm healthy and the weather's permitting, my day starts off. I get up every morning and I go do a mirf. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Mile run with a 20-pound weighted vest, 300 squats, 200 push-ups, 100 pull-ups, then another mile run. Now, before this, is there any coffee, any breakfast? Oh, yeah. I'm up before. Any supplements, any protein? 4.30 in the morning, I get up between 4.30 and 5.30 is like my favorite hour of the day. The world is still asleep. I have my coffee, check my emails, look at jujitsu shit on Instagram and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:24:18 and just get myself mentally prepared for the day. I take a whole bunch of supplements, everything from, you know, magnesium, salt. I take, what is the word I'm looking for? I'm having a brain fart at the moment. I'll take a peptide called BPC-157, which fixes your, it actually regrows muscle fibers, tendons and ligaments. I take those for my knees and my elbows, my tendonitis and shit like that. I take Harderine, which is another peptide that helps with your lung capacity and your
Starting point is 00:24:48 endurance. I do a lot of breath work, which, you know, we've done together. And if you don't mind me discussing that briefly. No. So, you know, as I mentioned, I do breath work with a girl named Gabriela Borges. She is fucking awesome. You want to go tomorrow? I'll see you.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Well, if she's available, I got to get you in there. I'll ask you and we'll go. We've got nothing. She is amazing. I met her just like, I met her through Jiu-Jitsu. Okay. We started bartering. So I was teaching her and her awesome daughter, Giselle.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I was teaching them group Jiu-Jitsu lessons and they were teaching me breath work lessons. I went there because I wanted to have, you know, better breathing. I still compete with guys sometimes that are 25. I'm 41 and they have endless gas tanks. So I'm on my way there. I'm like, I got this breath work coach. This is going to be great. I think I'm going to go do some meditative breathing with some nice music and like relax
Starting point is 00:25:33 and everything. That was like the fucking polar opposite of what we did. I walk in there. She's like, I walk in there. She's got Metallica blasting. She's making me do these diaphragm expansion exercises with like a 40 pound kettlebell on my stomach. I'm like hyperventilating.
Starting point is 00:25:51 She's like, we have three minutes left. And you know, when you go do something and like halfway through in your mind, you're like, I don't want to be here right now. That's how it was. But through that, it completely changed my life, not just for endurance. That was actually probably the littlest piece that I took out of it. But, you know, I had really bad anxiety and depression that fixed it dramatically. You know, you were talking about, you know, fight or flight, your sympathetic nervous
Starting point is 00:26:17 system when for people that don't know what that is, it's like if someone opens this door and jumps out with a knife, we're going to go and stop breathing and hold our breath and our heart rate goes up and your pupils dilate and you freeze. And that's okay. That's when your body is telling you, get the fuck out of here. You're in trouble. But that happens too often in people. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:36 And by activating your parasympathetic nervous system, which is pretty much the opposite, that's your body telling you, chill out, calm down, you're going to be fine. And the only way to activate it is by breathing. So, you know, through that, everything, not just jiu-jitsu or just life. Life got better, you know, and I do 20, 30 minutes worth of breath work a day. I just add it to my everyday routine. It's probably the best 20, 30 minutes that I have every day. And now she's working with Bass Rootin.
Starting point is 00:27:03 She's a certified, actual certified breath work instructor under Dr. Belisa. And the cool thing is you have guys now like Wim Hof, right? That's bringing a lot of attention to breath work. But all these people show you really cool shit, but they don't actually teach you how to breathe. You can imitate what they're doing, but most people, when they breathe or they're out of breath, they take these big, huge breaths with their shoulders and they fill up their lungs up here, right? So, yeah, if you think about it, right, your lungs are shaped like two teardrops or two pairs like this. The parts that are up by your shoulders, they're the smallest part.
Starting point is 00:27:35 So, when people are breathing so much to fill up this much of your lungs and not this, that's when you start gasping for it, right? Because you're becoming oxygen star because you're only getting this little bit. When you breathe out of your belly, not only does your diaphragm grow and your lungs grow because they're muscles, all right? But that's when you can slow down everything, control your breathing, control your nervous system. And in studies that Wim Hof has done, they literally gave like him and his entire team like pneumonia. They gave it to him first and he wouldn't get sick. Like, he just didn't get sick. They thought it was a fluke.
Starting point is 00:28:11 So, they took like ten of his students. It might not be pneumonia. It was a flu. Regardless, whatever it is, they gave like ten of his pupils fucking pneumonia and none of them got sick. And this is like a documented study. You can Google it. It's amazing. So, and he swears that you can actually control your body's own immune system by breathing. So, pretty cool stuff, you know? I've downloaded the breath work app. I'm up to level 18. There you go. I do like three different exercises in the morning.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I do seven days to better performance. They have everything. Seven days to lower blood pressure. Seven days to fucking reduce stress. The app that the breathing exercise I think I'm getting the most out of is fucking the sleep one. You know, it's a long inhale and a long exhale with a pause and then you have five, ten seconds to go back. Don't I do it in bed with the sleep apnea mask on to really give me anxiety at night? Because the cat's on top of me. So, if I'm doing this and the cat's on top of me, I just have to pet her and my anxiety goes away. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:29:19 You know, she's stupid. These two cats I have left or not, they're great cats. I love them with all my heart. I used to have a cat that that motherfucker knew when I was anxious. And he would jump on me and stick his claws into my chest and I would be, what would you do with me? You know when you're anxious, you just want to be fucking alone. When you're anxious, my wife kissed me the other day. I'm like, Terry, come on, I'm getting anxiety attack. And you want to linger over here for two minutes. Get the fuck out of here. Go take a drive.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Go take a drive. But I've been in situations where I've been fucking anxious, breathing, sweating, hyperventilating, and that cat used to jump on me. And I love that cat a lot. I don't know, I'm not a big guy. I'm pushing animals or hitting them. I would just sit there and go, Finny, get the fuck off me. And he would squeeze his claws into me. And I would go, ow, ow, ow.
Starting point is 00:30:09 But at the end of the hour, I was, guess what, that also happened. Anxiety was gone. That motherfucker knew what he was doing. Oh, they all know. They have a sixth sense. All animals do. They fucking know what he was doing. So it's like at night, when I go upstairs now, I trust her. I know she's always going to jump on my side. So I'll do the breath work on my side, on my left shoulder.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And it pushed me out. And it's pretty interesting. I'll tell you why God works in a weird fucking way, because I have the whoop app. I fucking love the whoop app. It's helped me dramatically. But what it's helped me with the most is sleep. When you wake up in the morning with the whoop app, do you have one? Yeah, I had one. I don't use it anymore just because I didn't like wearing it.
Starting point is 00:30:54 That didn't show all the data on it. So I use my Apple Watch now. But I did have the whoop still. I just don't use it anymore. It's really weird with the whoop. Remember what is it? What does it ask you in the morning? How rested do you feel? No. How was your breathing? Did you have sex last night? Oh, all the questionnaires. Oh my God. Every morning you got to answer this questionnaire.
Starting point is 00:31:12 But let me tell you what they ask you. Did you cup? Did you do acupuncture? Did you stretch? Did you drink? All that stuff. Did you drink alcohol? Well, they'll know by your breathing. I have a sleep apnea machine, and it's got a computer in it. So at the end of the month, they send me an email. Oh, and that has all your data too? Oh, yeah. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:31:31 That has a little bit more in depth. But that data will tell you, as soon as you're drunk, like the doctor would call me like a day after and go, what, did you drink on the 18th? Oh, you could see immediately. Yeah, you could tell because you dehydrate and something goes wrong. In your heart, Rego, alcohol is... And I was a heavy drinker before you did, too.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Like a struggling heavy drinker, especially after Max passed away. Alcohol is the worst drug in the world. It's the worst drug in the world. People have no understanding of what alcohol is going to do to you in the long run. Oh, it's absolutely terrible. There's two things you can't quit without dying. Alcohol and benzos.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Cold turkey, right. You would draw and die. You would draw, you fucking, you have a great chance of dying. So alcohol affects you also. But what else goes by your day? Like after the supplements and the weight of vest, what else adds to your day? Well, I come home. Usually I have a healthy breakfast.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I go get my first training session in. In between my first training session and the nighttime sessions, when I actually do whatever work I need to get done. So, you know, I still run my private equity group. I just got into solar cells. It's been doing really, really well. So I get my work done. But again, I get to make it on my schedule.
Starting point is 00:32:43 So that's like my time to do it. And if I have something in that timeframe that has jiu-jitsu or the gym related to it, I just rearrange my schedule. So I'm really blessed now that I've put myself in that position. I can make my day pretty much happy every day. However I want it to. Then I go back and get my second training session in for the day. And I do try to dictate what my training sessions are.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Like I'll work on specific things for the entire week. Even if the class is learning something, I'll obviously be respectful and do the drills that the class is doing. But when I roll, I always roll with a purpose. Like not just, okay, I'm going to try some random shit out. And if it works out great and I'm going to have some fun, I go there every day with a purpose. Like I'm going to work on this this week,
Starting point is 00:33:19 you know, either something I want to learn or something that I'm lacking or, you know, whatever it is. I feel like if you don't train with a purpose, you're taking away a whole aspect of learning. You know? You know, perfect example is I tell people, like anyone can imitate things. Like when you go to jiu-jitsu at first,
Starting point is 00:33:35 and I could teach you how to do an arm bar right now. And I can show you how to do a really good arm bar. You'll know how to do an arm bar. It doesn't mean you know how to do jiu-jitsu. It just means you know how to do an arm bar. My girlfriend has a fucking awesome arm bar. You know what I mean? She has no idea about conceptually how to do jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 00:33:51 She just knows how to do an arm bar. You know? So I'm very big on learning the whole picture of it. Not just imitating moves or seeing one cool thing on YouTube. I'm going to learn that today, even though it has no relevance to anything else that I'm doing. That's it, man. Home by 9 o'clock and bed by 9.30.
Starting point is 00:34:07 How many hours do you sleep on that? It's a regimen that you sleep on. I sleep six hours every night. Six! That's it. I'm good on six hours. But it's got to be six solid hours of sleep. You know what I mean? When I train the way I train,
Starting point is 00:34:23 I go to bed by 11 o'clock and I'm up at 4.30 or 5. But I was unconscious. It's all REM sleep and I wake up feeling good. I can sleep for 10 hours, but get spotty sleep and wake up feeling like shit. So six solid hours of sleep, hydrated, I take tons of salt.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Salt is a really big thing that people underestimate for rehydration and even for performance. Every single time you exercise, you burn an entire teaspoon of salt, which is 2,000 milligrams of salt. Every time you have a cup of coffee,
Starting point is 00:34:55 you burn about 500 milligrams of salt. People are at about a 5,000 milligram deficiency of salt every day. And salt actually helps you rehydrate. It doesn't dehydrate you. It doesn't raise your cholesterol. It doesn't raise your blood pressure. It's all bullshit. Salt is what your body acts.
Starting point is 00:35:11 It doesn't raise your body to actually hold water. So a lot of people need enough salt, then they don't realize. That's right. There you go. But it's really weird, even with liquid IV is a sponsor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And that's got sodium in it. It's got sodium in it. And a little heavier than on the sodium. I didn't know why. That's exactly why. And now I get it. You know, they're taking salt pills during that time. When you sweat,
Starting point is 00:35:43 you're not sweating water. You're sweating salt, minerals, magnesium, shit that your body needs. So especially when you have an active lifestyle, you need to take a lot more salt than you actually would think is healthy. You know, I'm somewhere between 5 and additional. On top of what regular food
Starting point is 00:35:59 has in it and shit, I'm somewhere between 5 and 7,000 milligrams of salt on top of that a day. Wow. Which is what I'm losing due to the gym and coffee. I do drink a fair amount of coffee. A lot of stretching in your world? That's probably the one thing
Starting point is 00:36:15 that I've been trying so hard for years to do that I just fucking hate doing. So stretching for me is like, every time I get injured, I'm like, it's because I don't stretch enough. I'm 41. And every time I get injured, I'm like, once I start feeling better, I'm going to stretch again. And I sign up for yoga classes and shit
Starting point is 00:36:31 that I never go to, because to me, I hate stretching. It's boring. I can train you just to 10 hours a day and I'll be happy as can be. And to me, stretching is like a flow roll for one round. That's stretching. You know, I'm used to nothing now. Now we can kill each other. You know, but if you tell me to take 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:36:47 and go sit in the corner and like touch my toes and shit, that 10 minutes feels like it's like getting sent to the principal's office. Like, I don't want to do this shit. At night, I've been into stretching. At night, right before I go to bed, I'll turn the TV off for like a half hour before.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I'll do a couple fucking downward dugs. I'll do a couple warrior poses for my shoulder just to stretch out and open my chest. I'll mix the breathing with it. And then the other thing I do is I saw online that some guys, like if you have knee problems, get a fucking Olympic bar
Starting point is 00:37:19 and put it on your calf and roll it. Right above the knee, so I get the gun, I do that. And I got the roller. And that's a fucking workout. You got a roller. When I finish 10 minutes of the roller, you burn like 100 calories. You're picking yourself up. You're rolling. You're like, what the, why am I breathing
Starting point is 00:37:35 so heavy? Huh. Then your shirt gets caught in the roller. Yeah, you're back and you choke yourself. Now you're choking yourself. It's a fucking nightmare. But I do it. And that's why also, what I was talking about, well, whoop, they give you a countdown. And I'm like, why do they
Starting point is 00:37:51 give you this countdown? Is this, do you have an animal in the room sleeping with you? All these little fucking things, like somebody in the bed with you. Oh yeah. Did you sleep alone? They asked you all these things. And it really like made me fucking think about it. But the two things they asked you,
Starting point is 00:38:07 they don't ask you if you worked out. They asked you if you stretched. It was stretching. And if there was breath work. Yeah. And you set those, right? Because you tell them in the beginning like the things that you do. Then they ask you if you did the things you told them that you do. Right? Yeah. Okay. So you do those. I didn't know what breath
Starting point is 00:38:23 work really was. So I would just. I didn't either. I really thought breath work was like she was going to sit me in a nice chair and play some of that like hippie music and shit, right? And be like, take a nice deep breath up to three and then exhale. Yeah. Wait till I take you. You're going to, you're going to have a half of a heart attack.
Starting point is 00:38:39 But I'm telling you, it's insane. I have half a heart attack with the app. It's insane. The app's got some shit. Like the app will give you breath work. What's it called? The app is called breath work. Yeah. It'll give you some exercises and then it'll give you, especially in the mornings, that's when I need my breath work.
Starting point is 00:38:55 So I'll sit there in front of the computer. I'll stand sometimes like in North Carolina. I stood. It was really nice. I could see the computer, what it was saying. But there are things that you have to switch and fucking. But there's some breathing work out for like seven minutes long. Holy fuck. Yeah. There's a black dude on
Starting point is 00:39:11 there, Terrell, that teaches a couple classes. He, that fucking dude will put you in another world, man. I love breath work now. Now because of it. It's amazing. And it's helped me. It's amazing. I noticed it two weeks ago in Jiu Jitsu.
Starting point is 00:39:27 That when I was passing a guard, I was more listen, when you're out of breath, you can't focus. Well, that's, that's, that's the whole sympathetic, parasympathetic nervous system. That's a hundred percent right. And ironically, when you get nervous, you stop breathing even more. When you get
Starting point is 00:39:43 nervous, you should breathe, right? But human instinct is when you get nervous, you tighten up and you make it even worse on yourself. But I'll tell you what else is bad, the underlying thing. When I go to a gym, you know, especially with my knee or something, I get anxiety. As soon as my knee does something I don't like. That's it.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I'm on a different edge. Okay. I feel everything open up because now I don't know what's going on in my knee. Am I going to collapse? Is this knee going to fucking just wilt? I don't know what's going to happen. Right. And even in with Jiu Jitsu, I can't lie to you. When I walk into Jiu Jitsu, my anxiety level is fucking high.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And at Hollis's, they have stairs. Okay. Yeah, it's upstairs, right? It's fucking crazy. I go upstairs but not breathing. I go up Hollis's stairs and when I get to the top, I got a pee. I got to take my belt off. I'm breathing. That's the anxiety. Yeah. That was the
Starting point is 00:40:31 anxiety holding me down because if I have anxiety on the mat when we do warm-ups, it's a fucking night, man. Oh, for sure. But as soon as I go and I feel comfortable, the windows, everything's all right, then I can breathe. And knowing that breath work fixes that shit, for me at least, I'm going to speak for myself.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Breath work for me helps me with anxiety big time. I was somebody that had to carry around Xanax all the time. But the cool thing about taking, not the cool thing, but when you take Xanax, the cool thing is when you have anxiety and you have Xanax on you, you don't get anxiety as much because you know that you have the solution to it in your
Starting point is 00:41:03 pocket. You're like, well, if I do get anxiety, I could take this and feel better, even though it's not what you want to be doing. Well, I still have that. It's just I don't need the Xanax anymore. I know if I'm going to get anxious or have the borderline panic attack or whatever, I'm doing, go shit somewhere, do breath work for five, ten minutes and get myself back
Starting point is 00:41:19 to where I'm feeling great and normal again. You know, I never did Xanax, like as a kid and all that. You do Xanax when you do blow. People give you fucking Xanax on the street when you do blow. And then, I don't know, over the years I'm more of a speedier guy,
Starting point is 00:41:35 like I like cocaine. We all like cocaine, so. I've never tried it. I was never, you know, I like Quailudes. But what I'm trying to say is I was never a downer type of guy. Right. Same. Like kids, when I was a kid, people would show up with all these pills.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I was never really a downer type of guy. Pain. No. No, I was. When I was a kid, I tried codeine. I got, I had a twist in my ankle. They gave me codeine. I puked for a week, so that was the end of that. Vicodines make you feel kind of weird. Like, I'll tell you what, if I was going
Starting point is 00:42:07 to a Dodger game, I would ask my buddy to bring me to Vicodine. And I'd pop them into a Dodger game and sit there in the heaven. But I would go to a Dodger game once a year, so it's not, you know, it's not bad. I don't feel guilty about it. But Xanax, I had a prescription since 2010, and I would take them
Starting point is 00:42:23 periodically because you can't take Xanax when you have sleep apnea. You can't take the fucking strong ones. You can take the ones that control anxiety, but they don't do shit. No. They don't put you to sleep or anything. Bro. You know, I have a high tolerance for a lot of shit. Like, if I get
Starting point is 00:42:39 a penicillin shot and I do penicillin, like I get a penicillin shot, you're going to have to come back the next day and give me another penicillin shot. Really? Wow. Since I'm a kid, all that shit works a little backwards on me. So when the pandemic started, a little bit before the pandemic was when I started
Starting point is 00:42:55 the night after I tried to follow Holly, the girl that's a writer, and I got such a bad anxiety attack that I blacked out on stage for 12 minutes. Think of walking on stage in front of people at the world famous coffee store, your heart beating.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I couldn't see and I kept looking to the window on the side. They boarded it up at the main room. When I would be in the original room, I could always look to the side and see the traffic on Sunset, see the door guys. When they boarded that up, I went into a fucking state of
Starting point is 00:43:27 panic and I woke up 12 minutes into the set and they were fucking on the floor like I had shot them. People would just laugh and I'm like, what are you laughing about? Are you laughing at me? I didn't laugh at me having an anxiety attack. But obviously, I just went from muscle memory and I was just
Starting point is 00:43:43 killing them. I just woke up on stage like, okay, thank you. And I ran the fuck out and I caught a road. It's the worst feeling ever. I've been there. It's the worst feeling ever. That was it. So I started taking it and I would put the Xanax in my pocket, the little football. And then I kept going to the store
Starting point is 00:43:59 but somebody would give me a joint and then you forget to take the Xanax. But my wife was washing the Xanax. I was putting the I was putting the Xanax in my top pocket. But once the pandemic hit, I couldn't stop taking the fucking Xanax. Yeah. I mean, listen, they help.
Starting point is 00:44:15 They do it. When you have anxiety, they help. They help for a while and then they feed into it. Well, yeah. I mean, you become dependent on it. No, it wasn't even the dependence. When I moved to New Jersey, if you told me come over to my house, I would take the Xanax
Starting point is 00:44:31 and by the time I got the house, I'd have to take another football. Because you were still like anxious. It was social anxiety. So it was social. It was a bunch. It was just the COVID fear. It was the COVID fear mixed with anxiety, which is not fucking good.
Starting point is 00:44:47 No, believe me. I've been there before every competition and still to this day. I mean, I've competed a million times. I still, for the 10 minutes before I actually walk out and compete, my fucking vision goes black. I'm sweating and in my head, I'm like, I keep doing this to myself every time. I'm like a masochist and torture myself
Starting point is 00:45:03 every month with this shit. Not in the league of competitions that you're at, obviously. You're at it to the world this weekend. But in local competitions, is that a tool elimination? It depends on the competition. Here's my problem.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I'm going to get anxiety on the first match. I go up against a blind guy and I'm going to lose. My first match in a competition, I'm going to lose. It's the type of person I am. You can't look at it that way. Your first match, you're going to win because you're going to do the first match. That's winning.
Starting point is 00:45:35 You know what I'm saying? No, in the long run, you win. But what I'm saying is, even when I went to as a kid karate tournaments, you would always get two points on me. A motherfucker would always get two points on me. And then my Cubanism, my New Yorkism would come out and I'd kick you in the stomach
Starting point is 00:45:51 and I'd win and I'd get disqualified. I would lose my mind and kick above the... Because when I was in karate, it was just belt and neck, right? You couldn't kick above the thing. I'd kick him in the head with a spinning back kick or something. But then, that's the type. You have to smack me once. When I played basketball,
Starting point is 00:46:07 you have to put eight points on me up. Okay, motherfucker, that's what I want to do. Let's rock. I'm one of those guys. So the first competition I would do, it had to be double elimination. Because I'm just going into the first time to hold on. There's a lot of places around Robin you're guaranteed three matches.
Starting point is 00:46:23 You know? There's one actually NJBJJF, which is like New Jersey, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. It's right in... I think it's at CBA or like one of these local colleges. And that is like the perfect... This is my first competition competition. It's around Robin,
Starting point is 00:46:39 you're guaranteed two or three matches. It's generally a lot of people's first competition. The chances are you'll be going to get somebody that's their first competition too. And you just get the experience. And I could pull guard? You could pull guard. Because I'm not going to be thrown. I'm not the guy that's going to talk you out of pulling guard.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I play guard. There's these people out here that say if you play guard you don't get into Valhalla. You know what I'm saying? I'm not one of those guys. Once my knees went and I couldn't shoot anymore, I'm a guard player. So what are you doing this weekend?
Starting point is 00:47:11 The Worlds? Masters Worlds in Vegas. And this is the biggest tournament for Jiu Jitsu? Because I don't know. The biggest tournament for Masters. I mean the biggest tournament in Jiu Jitsu is Adult Gii Worlds. This is Masters Gii Worlds for everyone over 30.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And then I have in October, No Gii Pans which I won last year. And then in December No Gii Worlds which I won last year. They didn't have Masters Worlds or Pans last year because of COVID in the Gii. So I only got to compete in No Gii.
Starting point is 00:47:43 This year they had all of them. And I took second in, I think it was April and ended up breaking my ribs like I told you in the 30 seconds left in the finals and I couldn't finish the match. So that kind of got me. And the guy that I lost to was in my bracket in this one.
Starting point is 00:47:59 So I hope I get him again. Get a little chance of redemption. It's pretty interesting that 10 years ago obviously 15 years ago before the Jiu Jitsu Revolution it was basically for just athletes. Nobody
Starting point is 00:48:15 could have walked into a Jiu Jitsu place. And now Jiu Jitsu has grown so much that you see all shapes and sizes and it fucking inspires the shit out. And the coolest part is some of the very, very, very best guys like Mikey Musimachi for example
Starting point is 00:48:31 who by the way is extremely athletic but I just mean by looking at him it's not someone you would consider like oh this kid's a jock, this kid's a specimen look at him, you know what I mean? He's this big and he's one of the best ever, ever to live in the sport. He's amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:47 But it's just so weird how I could go online now and look up Jiu Jitsu for a 50 year old. Oh yeah. Jiu Jitsu for a 60 year old. What are the benefits, what are the it's all there and I'm seeing it like when I left that light there was one other old guy in my school
Starting point is 00:49:03 in the whole school that was just and I would try to go in to roll with him. He finally came to when they was like we gotta get each other's number because they're feeding the purpose. I'm coming in here to fight these 20 year olds and they're not they're just shutting me down. And now they have so many things
Starting point is 00:49:19 available for over 40. Like I just went to class Sunday and they signed two other older guys and I went up through and gave them a hug and said you know just keep coming don't get you know there was a girl that joined that she was so big she couldn't put Jiu Jitsu pants on.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I saw her Saturday she's wearing deep pants and wait a year from now. And you know it's like go at your own pace you don't need to be scared no more nobody's gonna choke you. None of those schools want that reputation. They don't want the reputation that if Mikey comes in and he's been a guitar
Starting point is 00:49:51 player all his life and he comes in here they're not gonna break your fucking fingers you know that's what and look at all the people in entertainment that are doing Jiu Jitsu. When you talk to Ricky Rocket from Poison like I knew Ricky like from Eddie Bravo like Eddie Joey this Ricky I don't
Starting point is 00:50:07 I never knew the guy then one day I went to an airport and there he was and we were both on the same flight we got stuck for fucking eight hours so I started talking to him we started talking to me and I'm like this guy's not even a rock star you've seen what's his name from Tool when he's on
Starting point is 00:50:23 Rogan he don't even look like a fucking rock star he loves Jiu Jitsu more than fucking he loves Jiu Jitsu and this guy I remember when I talked to Ricky I go Ricky you're excited about this Tool and he's like I don't know I can't do my privates
Starting point is 00:50:39 that's what he was concerned about not that he was gonna make millions of dollars not that he was gonna make millions of dollars it changes you it changes you and there's days like I tell you what burns me up the most there's days like I have a plan like you you know what I'm gonna do this I gotta make these calls I gotta write this submit it and then I'm gonna catch
Starting point is 00:50:55 a quick 45-minute Jiu Jitsu class like a couple weeks ago I fucking had an appointment at DraftKings like a conference call and I fucking didn't go to class and then they called me at like fucking 11 and said we're gonna push the meeting
Starting point is 00:51:11 back I get more furious at that I couldn't go to class because you fucking pushed the meeting back you mother fuck like that fucking bothers me to death now like so it's it's it's been completely
Starting point is 00:51:27 different for me and after I met you I really started thinking about what I wanted to do like how I wanted to do this you know I'm gonna lose weight I'm gonna go down to 250 I put some weight on last week on the fucking vacation it was scary it's alright it's cumulative
Starting point is 00:51:43 not week by week it's what happens at the end of the year listen man where I was and where I am yeah it's two different fucking stories so and now I want to this is what I want to do I'm happy I'm not doing comedy as much as I am anymore you're not very funny yeah that was
Starting point is 00:51:59 not anymore I really it's so weird how I get my moments of being funny but I'm not like my mind isn't dancing I'm in New Jersey now I got beautiful people around me you know it's like it's like I still like going on stage
Starting point is 00:52:15 but I much rather go to to class three four days a week you know I'm getting to an age I'm six months away from being 60 and I saw Hollis today when I trained and he goes you really like it you know why if I was in another school like in LA I couldn't go there anymore
Starting point is 00:52:31 they would just kill me you know Baral and you know all those schools Alberto Crane's got a great school but here I could go to this school till I'm 70 I could just tell I could go there till I'm 70 because there's a guy that's in the 60s that goes here
Starting point is 00:52:47 twice a week cute this old man in the world he doesn't run he just does little slides for his warm-ups we play sometimes me and him I go where the fuck you been he goes out my wife won't let me out of the house there was a 70 year old guy that I got a stroke during class
Starting point is 00:53:03 and came back two days later he's got the itch he was a Vietnam vet a fucking military guy and he joined there about a year ago I haven't seen him because I think he moved he moved to another school now but he was fucking 70 he went in there one
Starting point is 00:53:19 day he got a stroke he came back two days later there's a listen man we don't want you in class like you don't understand I need this I need this shit that's what happens you either come in and you get obsessed to where it consumes your life you know what I mean like people become drug addicts it's the same fucking addiction
Starting point is 00:53:35 you know it's just a more healthy addiction you know but people either come in and they get obsessed or they just fade out real quick you know there's really no middle ground it's like oh this is okay I kind of have fun I'll go once a week and see how it happens you either go in and you're like this is the coolest shit I've ever done
Starting point is 00:53:51 or you come in and like this guy just sweat in my fucking eye in my mouth right and he had his balls in my face and I don't think I'm I don't think this is for me you know for me that sounds like a glorious day right let me tell you something man
Starting point is 00:54:07 you know I don't understand how to say listen let's be honest with ourselves December whatever July 16th when I first got on stage for the first time I had a three-minute set I'm not going to lie to anybody in my mind I thought I sucked
Starting point is 00:54:23 you know the first time I got on stage I'm like but I did have something I had a presence you know I had something going for me okay we can build on it you're not the funniest guy in the world but we can build on this okay when I walked off the set that day I remember looking at my wife
Starting point is 00:54:39 at the time and going I gotta get rid of this check like right the first time I got on stage the first time I got on stage it's just I wanted to be a fucking guy I knew right there it's the weirdest feeling that you do something one time
Starting point is 00:54:55 I get your 15 fucking jobs I get your job tomorrow as a chef at the best restaurant let's go to cousins okay I get your job at cousins okay that's the first day you're going to go you know what I don't know Joey not for me it's either for me I like the food you know I like cooking but it's not for me
Starting point is 00:55:11 I got on stage and pretty much bombed the first time I knew I had presents just by their faces how I walked up when I got off the stage I knew that like my roofing career was fucking done my salesman career was fucking done
Starting point is 00:55:27 and this chick I married to who I love she gotta go because she's standing in my way of me doing what the fuck I want to do here's the difference with jujitsu first time I walked into jujitsu I got choked I got thrown around I had a run and pee outside
Starting point is 00:55:43 take my top walk the first time somebody mounted me I was still hooked yeah of course how can you be hooked on something that you don't even have an aptitude because I think it's easy especially when you're in a class with some talented athletes I think it's easy to observe
Starting point is 00:55:59 what's actually possible right then you talk to some people and you're like how long have you been training like I've been training for a year I've been training for two years but those people all suck too sometimes worse than you so when you see what everyone else has done they all started in the same place okay if I just I know it sounds tacky because
Starting point is 00:56:15 this is what everyone says but if I just keep showing up eventually I'll be that good and then eventually I'll be that good and I'm gonna keep getting better this is the fucking lesson of the day keep showing the fuck up you're gonna suck that's applicable to anything
Starting point is 00:56:31 keep doing it and I think for me going back to jujitsu it was the lesson I learned from stand up comedy listen and it's like anything else in life you know I could tell you Mike guess what I got a guitar and I know how to play cocaine and you're like okay you know when you're in a band and somebody comes
Starting point is 00:56:47 up to you and they're like I learned how to play tiptoe through the tulips you're like okay keep going bad eye take if I come to you you're not gonna believe it I joined jujitsu the first day I choked out a guy you're like okay that's great you know let's see if it happens the second fucking day
Starting point is 00:57:03 let's see if you go back the third day you got beginner's luck gambling you ever gamble you always win the first time you fuck with $8000 until the next day and you lose $20,000 but with jujitsu I was hooked even though I sucked at it
Starting point is 00:57:19 like I knew this is what I wanted to do I don't care what I have to do if the devil comes to me tomorrow and says you want to be a black belt in jujitsu and compete and be the best jujitsu I would do that before anything else like I would do that I would sell my soul to just be able to hang out on the mats
Starting point is 00:57:35 but I won't sell my soul because I see guys that are brown belts and they do what we do effortlessly I can't wait till you come to watch me do stand-up the first time I can't wait either you're gonna go bro
Starting point is 00:57:51 you just went up there and did this and it looked like so easy it's like when I watch Hollis Gracie Roll he don't do nothing what's second nature to him he puts his hand, does something think of it this way for him like if you're taking a test
Starting point is 00:58:07 like a multiple choice test and you just have every single answer before you even got the test you already know what all the answers are that's how he sees jujitsu and he rolls like anything you're doing he knows exactly what you're gonna do he knows what you're gonna do to defend it which we talked about, you know what I mean and when you already know what your opponent's gonna do
Starting point is 00:58:23 before they do it you don't really have to work too hard if I tell you like Joey in three seconds I'm gonna punch you in the face that's how they see everything as soon as they see you move your hips a certain way open your guard a certain way he knows exactly what you're gonna do
Starting point is 00:58:39 you know it's been doing it for his whole life it's second nature, just like comedy second nature to you so I finally got like I'm a black belt in comedy I'm a black belt with a couple of red stripes like a coral belt cause you get those every three years while you're a black belt
Starting point is 00:58:55 you get your first three every three years and your second two every five years you go to coral belt so yeah I'm like a coral belt I could go up there and just see the game when people talk to me about their stand up like I'm a patron I don't have to watch their set
Starting point is 00:59:11 I don't even do comedy, two years I know where you're at, I pretty much know where you're at you're just getting it together you might be really good in your mind you think you're better you think you're ready to hang out with Rogan and Chappelle but you're really not you're gonna go there and try it one time
Starting point is 00:59:27 and you're gonna come back with not the result you want and then you'll start to stay in your lane more and we all do that with Jujitsu I'm gonna go over there and train with Hendo really wait till he throws you out the fucking window there's definitely levels to the game so your first match is Friday night
Starting point is 00:59:43 I don't know what time on Friday yet my first match is Friday but the whole weekend will be on flow grappling the whole weekend on flow grappling so I want people at home if you have a flow grappling account a lot of Jujitsu people watch this podcast support my man Rob Schaefer
Starting point is 00:59:59 and we'll be fucking cheering for you here thank you brother, I appreciate it and when you come back with the title without the title, you're still coming back here again to let us know about your experiences I'm looking forward to it brother, can't wait I also want to start doing some type of videos with you
Starting point is 01:00:15 to help people like if you want to video our lessons you can video them, I think that'd be great because I love the fact that people of all aspects, of all walks of life can do Jujitsu and I think people that don't do it don't realize that, you know what I mean there's a million people that are like
Starting point is 01:00:31 oh you trained Jujitsu, you're in great shape I'm not in great shape so I can never do that you know what I mean, so I think it'd be great to bring more notice I was going to quit Jujitsu but then I said okay I have a problem with my knee I could tap the fuck out on a lot of things on this but then I thought about one of the greatest
Starting point is 01:00:47 fucking black belts we have in the world today which is John Jock Machado and John Jock has a disability with his hands, he can't really grab so I thought about him and he just has to work, you know I've never spoken to him about it but I know like I've asked some of his students and they go
Starting point is 01:01:03 he's brilliant and he works his way around it and that's what made me go back to Jujitsu yeah I got one knee down but I still got three motherfuckers and now you have a great half guard, right? and I got a great half guard and I can put my weight on it the eyeballs pop out honest to God I have a great time going
Starting point is 01:01:19 and let me tell you what the main reason about going to Jujitsu is guys to grow as a human being you got to surround yourself with fucking champions man, honest to God the only way to sharpen metal is metal, metal sharpens fucking metal and for me
Starting point is 01:01:35 comedy I learned from a lot of great people from Rogan, a lot of great people in my life but with Jujitsu man, you take a little piece from everybody in that class every day somebody gives you something they're the most interesting people in the fucking world honest to God
Starting point is 01:01:51 and you know I'm a boring fuck like with people these Jujitsu people man I go to my class, there's a Cuban kid there's a Chinese kid, there's a black dude who was a fucking wrestler with Chris Wideman he was on the same team as Chris Wideman so I fuck around with him because he's a white white white belt
Starting point is 01:02:07 right, but he's a good wrestler oh my god so he's not a white though no, he should he does do you follow you, what you do my Instagram is robchaffer underscore bjj, but truth be told I don't really, not one of these people that share
Starting point is 01:02:23 all my workouts and stuff, I'm 41 so I kind of came from that like old school thing I'm private, I'm private I don't want people to see me getting choked out but if it helps you come to the school yeah, absolutely because you're going to live, you're going to get choked out for 20 days and then one day you're going to figure out
Starting point is 01:02:39 how to make it choked out anymore and if you're 50 and 60 and you're just sitting there talking couch, come on guys go to a class twice a fucking week twice a week will change your life just going to eat with different people just talking about what people do with vitamins it's mind boggling
Starting point is 01:02:55 and you just be surprised at friendships that you make because unlike some other sports I personally, and I'm not saying this from a biased point of view, but I think in jiu-jitsu there's a bigger camaraderie than any other sport I play I played hockey, I wrestled my whole life, I've been in other sports and I love sports, there's always a brotherhood
Starting point is 01:03:11 in the locker rooms and shit nothing like jiu-jitsu and now at this point anything that I do in life if I'm putting a new bathroom in my house if I get arrested and I need a lawyer I go to the room, there's lawyers, there's doctors there's fucking plumbers, there's carpenters I got everything you can ever ask for
Starting point is 01:03:27 so that's why everyone laughs like oh how could we never come out anymore to my older group of friends which I still love very much I just don't have anything in common anymore all I want to do is talk about jiu-jitsu with people they don't want to talk about jiu-jitsu you don't know about ADCC in two weeks we have nothing to talk about
Starting point is 01:03:43 but Rob, I wish you all the luck this week I appreciate you thank you for coming on I love you guys, we're all in my heart have a happy fucking Labor Day we'll be back fucking Monday with a podcast just so you won't feel at home
Starting point is 01:03:59 feel lonely and that's it motherfuckers, enjoy your Labor Day and we'll be back, stay black and now for a word about my sponsors alright you bad motherfuckers, I want to thank you I want to thank my man Rob Schaefer I want to thank Mike for putting it together
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