Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #192 | ROB SHAFFER | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ
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What's happening you bad motherfuckers? Welcome to another fun-filled episode of the fucking joint.
It's Wednesday the 31st of the month, that's it, it's over.
We did another month, we got four months left in the year, this is my favorite fucking quarter of the year.
I love fucking going all out, I got comedy shows, I got a ton of shit going on.
But anyway, I have a guest today in motherfucking studio.
This guy, my wife asked me who I had in the podcast today and I told her,
the most interesting guy I've met since I've been in New Jersey.
Welcome Mr. Rob Schaefer to the fucking joint.
We're breaking his podcast cherry to boot too, so what's happening brother?
Everything's great, well thank you for having me, I appreciate it.
Oh man, ever since I met you I've been a different fucking animal.
We met through Jiu Jitsu, we have a mutual friend Rob's story, oh he didn't go to class today.
He was in class today.
He was?
He was in class today.
Okay good, I didn't think he went to class, but we met through him, he introduced me to Mr. Schaefer
because he said maybe he could help you out with the breathing and shit.
You know I love doing Jiu Jitsu, I just suck at it, but I keep showing up.
But I think this guy's story is interesting for anybody who wants to do anything with their life,
so tell us how it started, you were a stockbroker in the city, right?
I was a stockbroker in the city, I wasn't your typical like yuppie Ivy League guy that went to Harvard
and became a stockbroker, you know my dad was in New York City Fireman.
I was a high school dropout and I actually coached hockey at Manor Road in St. Allen,
which I'm sure you're familiar with, right?
Okay, yes.
I was the owner of Manor Road, I used to coach the Senate Hockey and the owner of Manor Road
owned a broker dealer called Joseph Stevens in Manhattan on 59 Maiden Lane
and one day when I was like 20 years old, he's like Rob, what are you going to do when you grow up?
And I was like I'm going to be a professional hockey player and he took me on his side, he's like,
let me tell you something, you're never going to be a professional hockey player.
I was like well thanks a lot for the confidence, you know, well what should I do in my life?
He was like oh why don't you come work for me, I own a broker dealer.
I didn't even know what a stock was at the time, but I decided to take the opportunity and whatnot
and I went there.
I worked for 14 years on Wall Street, did very, very well.
Due to a really unfortunate circumstance in my life, when I was 33, I had an ex-patch away,
really fucked my head up a little bit and I decided to spend the next year of my life on a bender
that probably could have killed half of the Rolling Stones, you know.
And then at the very end of that is when I found Jiu-Jitsu.
How did you find Jiu-Jitsu?
What made you go in there?
During everything I always worked out, I was always in the gym.
It could have been the worst day of my life, I could have been hungover, I was just a gym rat since I was a little kid.
So I was in the gym, long story short, you know, these guys are carrying mats through the gym to set up this little room in the back
and I figured they were doing like a yoga room or some shit like that,
but one of the guys I ended up going to high school with and actually grew up next to him since I was five years old.
His name is Gus Branstetter, he's a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu.
And we wrestled together and he was like oh it's great to see you, you would love Jiu-Jitsu.
It's just like wrestling but with submissions, so why don't you come?
So I'm like 230 pounds at the time, like fucking jacked.
I look like a big beach ball, like a retard, like all the guys at the jersey, sure, you know.
And I go to the class and it was cool.
And then at the end he's like all right, we're going to do live rounds now and you're going to roll with this guy.
And the guy he points to, by the way his name is Dave Zanario, they call him Super Dave.
He is a black belt then, he's still a very good black belt, very big competitor.
He's about 125 pounds, if that, okay, I'm 230 at the time.
And he's about five foot four, okay.
So they're like you're going to roll with him.
And I tell my friend Gus, I was like I'm not going to roll with this guy, I'm going to fucking hurt this guy.
I don't want to roll with him.
So yeah, go hurt him.
I said all right.
So I roll with Dave, I had 110 pound weight difference between me and him.
He beat the living shit out of me.
When I tell you like probably submitted me 25 times in five minutes.
And that was because he was being nice, you know.
So after that, that was it.
I was like whatever the hell this guy just did to me, I need to learn how to do that.
And I need to learn it quick because that's never happened again.
Now, seven years later, it still happens every time I roll with him.
But it's just, you know, now you know the game.
There's always those levels and he's always up there.
Yeah, but that's how I got into it.
And I really, really fell in love with it.
Really dedicated the past six years to training.
I train three, four times a day sometimes between not just jiu-jitsu, but jiu-jitsu, the gym,
the breath work that you and I have been doing together and things of that nature.
And it's changed my life in the best possible way I could ever imagine.
How long did you stay at that school?
I was only at that school for a few months, not for any better reason, just because I ended up moving.
So I went up to North Jersey and I was training at a school called Pure MMA.
I think they're the biggest in New Jersey.
They have like 1,500 students in Rockaway.
Andy and Mikey Main.
Andy was on the Ultimate Fighter and he was the king of pancreas and stuff like that.
And Mikey's just another young, talented guy.
But more importantly, they're just, like most people you meet, but they're just two of the greatest people.
They built a beautiful facility.
They have a great student base.
And I trained there for a long time until I met Cyborg and then transitioned to fight sports
and not training with Steve as well when I'm in New Jersey.
Now, where'd you meet Cyborg?
So I met Cyborg.
So when I first got into jiu-jitsu, I really, really wanted to be great at it.
And I kind of got discouraged because I started at 35, you know,
and you see all these world champions out there that are like 18, 19, 20 years old.
So I thought I was very late and it was discouraging because I was still rolling with younger guys,
but I didn't think I'd ever had the ability to accomplish much starting so late in my life.
So I met Cyborg at, uh, at Nogi Worlds, I believe, or maybe, yeah, Nogi Worlds,
uh, three years ago, I think it was 2019, like right before COVID.
And I watched him at 40 years old, you know, win a world championship.
Actually, I'm sorry.
I think in the finals of that, he blew out his knee in it.
Um, but nonetheless, last year, for example, at 40 years old, he wins an adult world championship.
You know what I mean?
Like guys, a seven-time world champion, ADCC champion,
and he's still winning at the highest level at my age.
So once I met him, I was like, all right, there's my motivation.
I'm going to be the broke man's version of that guy.
So now he trains in Florida.
He trains out of Miami.
So you moved to everything.
I went down there to go move.
Okay.
I trained there with him.
I went down there to move.
He invited me to join the team, come back.
And now I'm moving, right?
Moving down April 15th, 2020.
And I lived in Miami.
I mean, I lived in Miami in 2013.
April 15th, 2020.
I had my realtor appointments to look at places and fucking COVID happens, right?
So they canceled all realtor appointments.
You couldn't even go into apartments or houses to look at them at that time.
So I said, all right, you know what?
I'll sit tight as soon as this shit is over.
If thinking it's going to be what, a week, you know, two weeks, three a month, right?
Then I'll go move down.
Well, here we are now three years later.
Things are finally just subsiding and the prices down there are more than doubled.
So I'm still probably to a fault, so loyal to that team.
I will never compete under any different team.
I'd rather quit.
You just do, but I'm training right now with, you know, Steve and inferno.
As you know, I'm up here.
They're super supportive and help me as much as they can while I'm here.
The thing that impresses me the most about you is you became a champion.
At the age of 40, 30, yeah, 40, 40.
And it's really interesting that after I spoke to you, you're a champion.
I mean, you're a champion in life because you put everything you have into this.
Like, you know, the ability that you have as a stockbroker to work and make money,
you pushed that aside to make, to be happy,
which a lot of people don't even understand that concept.
They will never think about that.
They'll never adjust it because they're scared.
They won't be able to make money.
You took a chance.
You put some money away and you said, this is what I want to do.
I'm going to change my budget.
You drive a car like me, a Subaru, you kept all the, you kept your fucking over at low
and you've dedicated yourself to training.
That's a day that's spectacular.
The truth of that is that if it wasn't for Jiu Jitsu, I wouldn't have done that
because, you know, the business that I was brought up and it was about, you know,
who has the most towards the biggest house, who has the nicest car, the nicest watch,
and you never were happy.
You know, you could have made a million dollars and the guy down the hall made two million
and, you know, you weren't good enough.
Once you start training Jiu Jitsu, as I'm sure you know, because you meet so many people
from all walks of life, none of that shit mattered to me anymore.
I was like, you know what, I'm happy doing this and if I can just do this effectively
and enjoy myself, I'm good.
And I did.
And guess what?
Through Jiu Jitsu, my business exploded.
I got into another business now.
I'm doing solar.
That's exploded just from people that I met through Jiu Jitsu.
I'm here with you because of Jiu Jitsu.
99% of my great friends in life I've met through Jiu Jitsu.
So it's really, you know, it's the sport that changes, not just me, but anyone you talk
to that really falls in love with it.
It has the biggest impact on my life and anything I can imagine.
I read all this stuff online about Jiu Jitsu as a cult, Jiu Jitsu as this.
And it's really hard to explain to people the satisfaction you get from Jiu Jitsu.
I went to karate as a kid.
I did everything.
You know, I tried everything at least one time.
When I walked into that Jiu Jitsu place for the first time, because I had dear friends
that were already in the fucking game, their masters of this shit.
Right.
And they couldn't get me to do it.
And one day I just watched a match and I'm like, I like this better than that old MMA shit.
I saw a beauty in Jiu Jitsu that I never saw in anything else.
Like I saw it in basketball.
Of course.
You see it in baseball.
There's a certain beauty to it.
But Jiu Jitsu just grabbed me and Jiu Jitsu is a life changer for some people.
Like it was for you.
Jiu Jitsu lets you know how fucked up you really are.
And the things you gotta, yeah, you're going for a blue belt.
You're going for this.
But there's so many personal things.
Like for me, I was a mouth breather.
So we're working on that now, right?
Right.
But no.
I mean, listen, I've got my nose broken 18 times and then you put two pounds of coke in there.
I ain't gonna help your nostrils of breathing.
I still remember getting surgery.
Like all the surgeries I've gotten since 2013 and help me with Jiu Jitsu.
But they showed me that I like to breathe.
Like I never knew I wasn't breathing properly.
I had no fucking idea.
I would walk stairs and go, why am I fucking out of breath?
It's three fucking stairs, you know.
And then you learn, I realized I couldn't breathe right.
That's what I was doing.
So forget your Jiu Jitsu.
I had to learn how to breathe right.
And then I had a surgery on my knee.
And why did I get it?
And I'm like, I'm never gonna go back to Jiu Jitsu after the surgery.
Are you fucking kidding me?
You don't even let the knee heal.
And you gotta go back.
And the thing I noticed about Jiu Jitsu is one thing.
Like I was going to kickboxing for a while at this kickboxing in America.
You know, I had gone from 418 pounds to about 270 and I wanted to keep my weight there.
I wasn't involved in Jiu Jitsu before.
But I would go to these kickboxing places and I would see these guys with the rash guards
and the fucking knee pads and the fucking pants and greased hair.
And they're fucking hitting me for real.
And I'm like, can I ask you a question?
What do you do for a living?
I'm a fireman.
I'm a fireman.
A fucking fireman.
You know, so it was a little too real for me.
Like that kickboxing place, it was like people were trying to always over prove themselves.
Then you walk into a Jiu Jitsu gym.
And the first day they'll say to you, go with that guy.
And as you're going with this guy, he's beating you up.
You're not breathing right.
But he'll stop and go put your hand here.
Put your hand over here.
Do this.
Do that.
The people you meet, that's never been done.
Like I never had that before.
You know, I was, I went through a really bad period for about a year after I moved there.
I was confused.
And I walked into Gracie one day and fucking, they were very nice to me.
You know, and a week later I had to have knee surgery and I had this Corona fear.
I had the Corona fear.
Listen, man, I was asking somebody the other day, how come all these people haven't gone back to work?
Like there's a lot of people, like I just read somewhere else that they can't do this year because they don't have enough employees.
People don't realize they're still Amazon.
There's still a lot of people that are hiding in the houses, guys.
I want you to know that.
There's still a lot of people.
What about all these people that I lost their jobs for not getting vaccinated?
Now you don't need a vaccine anymore for anything, but these people still lost other jobs.
Well, the thing with me was, I, like, I, if you're a union and they fight Joe with his vaccine,
you better call them up and say, listen, we're taking these motherfuckers to court.
I'm union.
Can't fucking fire me over this.
These cops that lost their jobs and firefighters.
It's funny because when I went to LBI this year, I met some fire lady, like a fire woman, a firefighter.
I was a female and then she crossed the street with like 10 other chicks and they were all yoked and shit.
And she was telling me that they became firefighters during the pandemic because all these guys,
so they were like, we'll take the fucking vaccine.
You don't need my, yeah, I don't need my uterus.
I'll take the fucking vaccine.
I'm a lesbian.
My heart flop next week.
It's okay.
Yeah.
So it's so weird how everything has changed.
Oh, but back to Jiu Jitsu, I was a mask guys.
Mike would come on when I'm like, you got to go.
Like, like I couldn't take it no more.
I couldn't, I would be afraid to get him sick or for me to get sick from him.
He's got kids.
Yeah.
I didn't dog.
That was my biggest fucking fear was somebody going, Joey, I'm dying because I went and smoked
the joint with your stupid ass.
And I didn't want to.
So I didn't encourage it.
But the kid called me, Sean, coach Sean from Hollis Grace.
He's like, bro, what are you doing?
I go, nothing.
My knee goes, come in and just exercise.
At the time I was going to the gym and stuff, dog, I was so scared of COVID when he put
me in a closed guard and he was like breathing on me.
I'm like, I'm going to fucking die.
Jiu-Jitsu ruined my life.
Jiu-Jitsu ruined my life.
And he threw me around a couple minutes and shit.
I'm like, oh, this is tremendous.
I conquered COVID fear all in one day.
I went to acupuncture the first day, September 22nd.
I went to Jiu-Jitsu and then I had the hardest thing of ever.
I had to go to the city for the premiere of the soprano movie with 2,000 people on the
beacon theater.
I still remember getting jumping out of the car and a bunch of people hugging me and going,
I'm dying.
Yeah, I'm not going to make it home.
I'm dying at this movie theater.
And the next week I went to Jiu-Jitsu and my fear was gone.
Yeah.
I went to their seminar and I went upstairs and there was like 60 people upstairs.
Oh boy.
And I forced myself and everybody was so fucking nice and people were so cool.
And I joined Jiu-Jitsu basically for social reasons and for health reasons because I know
the people I'm going to have around me are going to be the best people.
100%.
This morning I was talking to a guy from the FBI in my class.
I'm a fucking criminal.
And he's talking to me for 20 minutes about kids.
He's in charge of organized crime.
He goes to the city every day for fucking, and here I am talking to him.
A couple of weeks ago it was me, him, and an actual gangster in class.
He only trains in the gi though so you can't see the wire, right?
Yeah, you can't see the fucking wire.
It's just a great thing.
And now I have all these friends from Jiu-Jitsu.
They call me some of them smoke weeds.
I meet the one Asian guy.
We smoke a number from time to time.
And it's great and I'm getting healthy.
Like today I burned 511 fucking calories.
That's a lot of calories for a fucking day.
Doing something fun that you enjoy.
Oh my God.
And I'm getting beat up.
Coach, come on.
You know I'm getting beat up.
I did get in the Americana today.
There you go.
Simple.
I could never get those.
I could never get those.
And that's the game I want to play.
So I've been working on just simple Americana's, Kamoros, and side control.
And it's just, like right now I want to do comedy part time, but I want to do Jiu-Jitsu full time.
Even though I suck at it.
I don't give a fuck.
We were just talking about recuperation.
And we were talking about I want to lift twice a week and then go to Jiu-Jitsu three times a week.
But I can't do it.
Like my goal was to hit five classes one week and I hit four.
But that's fine.
You know what the goal should be?
To have as many classes as you can and still do your best at them.
Like even when I train twice a day, six, seven days a week, by the sixth or seventh day I'm not getting really good training.
It's my body's falling apart.
I'm 41 as well.
You know what I mean?
I'm getting up there in age.
I don't recover like I used to.
I'm just a little bit retarded.
If I don't train twice a day I lose my mind.
So like it's the lesser of two evils.
I'm a big believer in like destroying your body to fix your mind if you've ever heard that saying before.
You know?
And when I'm destroying my body I have no stress.
I'm happy as can be.
All the endorphins come out.
I leave that room feeling great.
Then I can go deal with all the bullshit I have to deal with afterwards.
You know?
You know it was really impressive.
What really impressed me about it was a couple years ago on the church when I had the previous podcast.
I don't know.
Me and Lee were talking about something.
I did about 20 minutes about my day.
Do you remember that podcast?
I go, let me tell you.
There was a couple new podcasts.
No.
But that was like, I wanted people to understand.
Like people think that you just go up on stage at 8 o'clock at night and people fall down laughing.
Right.
And you walk off the stage and people throw coke at you.
This is what people think.
And you go into the green room and somebody's sucking your dick and all day you sleep and you party, you know.
And people have no idea.
When you get to a certain level.
Like, okay, we see guns and roses now.
All right.
Guns and roses is not partying no more.
They're not partying.
They're clean and sober.
They're old and, you know.
So what do they do now?
If you talk to them, like I don't talk to them, but if you look into their day, I guarantee all five of them are working out.
I know Duff goes, he's a fucking kickboxer.
He trades with fucking crazy man.
When Duff, for Duff to get healed, when his fucking liver blew up or whatever rupture for drinking.
He went to one of the group.
That's Benny the Jet.
Okay.
So he trains at Benny the Jet when he's in town.
And I think he takes him on the road on the tour.
That's cool.
I would train him.
I would too.
So, you know, people think like a guy like you walk in, you got a nice build, you know, you're healthy, you're strong.
They think you just pull up with your Maserati, go and beat up three people and get back in your car and go home.
Tell me about your day.
Tell me about your supplement intake.
All right.
So these people know the road to a champion.
Well, my day is seven days a week, but that doesn't mean I actually do it seven days a week.
You know, I do have businesses that I run and whatnot.
So I plan on training two, three times a day, every single day, seven days a week.
And when people ask me how much I train, I tell them I train every day.
But life happens sometimes and I don't actually train on those days.
I just never plan on not training for a day.
You know, like I'm leaving for Worlds on Thursday, so I took off today and tomorrow to let my body recover.
Okay.
I still tell people I train every day, but I didn't train today and I'm not training tomorrow.
But when I'm healthy, which as you get older, that's half the battle, right?
I have, you know, two blown-out knees, two herniated, this is my back, you know.
When I'm healthy and the weather's permitting, my day starts off.
I get up every morning and I go do a mirf.
Okay.
Mile run with a 20-pound weighted vest, 300 squats, 200 push-ups, 100 pull-ups, then another mile run.
Now, before this, is there any coffee, any breakfast?
Oh, yeah.
I'm up before.
Any supplements, any protein?
4.30 in the morning, I get up between 4.30 and 5.30 is like my favorite hour of the day.
The world is still asleep.
I have my coffee, check my emails, look at jujitsu shit on Instagram and stuff like that,
and just get myself mentally prepared for the day.
I take a whole bunch of supplements, everything from, you know, magnesium, salt.
I take, what is the word I'm looking for?
I'm having a brain fart at the moment.
I'll take a peptide called BPC-157, which fixes your, it actually regrows muscle fibers,
tendons and ligaments.
I take those for my knees and my elbows, my tendonitis and shit like that.
I take Harderine, which is another peptide that helps with your lung capacity and your
endurance.
I do a lot of breath work, which, you know, we've done together.
And if you don't mind me discussing that briefly.
No.
So, you know, as I mentioned, I do breath work with a girl named Gabriela Borges.
She is fucking awesome.
You want to go tomorrow?
I'll see you.
Well, if she's available, I got to get you in there.
I'll ask you and we'll go.
We've got nothing.
She is amazing.
I met her just like, I met her through Jiu-Jitsu.
Okay.
We started bartering.
So I was teaching her and her awesome daughter, Giselle.
I was teaching them group Jiu-Jitsu lessons and they were teaching me breath work lessons.
I went there because I wanted to have, you know, better breathing.
I still compete with guys sometimes that are 25.
I'm 41 and they have endless gas tanks.
So I'm on my way there.
I'm like, I got this breath work coach.
This is going to be great.
I think I'm going to go do some meditative breathing with some nice music and like relax
and everything.
That was like the fucking polar opposite of what we did.
I walk in there.
She's like, I walk in there.
She's got Metallica blasting.
She's making me do these diaphragm expansion exercises with like a 40 pound kettlebell on
my stomach.
I'm like hyperventilating.
She's like, we have three minutes left.
And you know, when you go do something and like halfway through in your mind, you're
like, I don't want to be here right now.
That's how it was.
But through that, it completely changed my life, not just for endurance.
That was actually probably the littlest piece that I took out of it.
But, you know, I had really bad anxiety and depression that fixed it dramatically.
You know, you were talking about, you know, fight or flight, your sympathetic nervous
system when for people that don't know what that is, it's like if someone opens this door
and jumps out with a knife, we're going to go and stop breathing and hold our breath
and our heart rate goes up and your pupils dilate and you freeze.
And that's okay.
That's when your body is telling you, get the fuck out of here.
You're in trouble.
But that happens too often in people.
Okay.
And by activating your parasympathetic nervous system, which is pretty much the opposite,
that's your body telling you, chill out, calm down, you're going to be fine.
And the only way to activate it is by breathing.
So, you know, through that, everything, not just jiu-jitsu or just life.
Life got better, you know, and I do 20, 30 minutes worth of breath work a day.
I just add it to my everyday routine.
It's probably the best 20, 30 minutes that I have every day.
And now she's working with Bass Rootin.
She's a certified, actual certified breath work instructor under Dr. Belisa.
And the cool thing is you have guys now like Wim Hof, right?
That's bringing a lot of attention to breath work.
But all these people show you really cool shit, but they don't actually teach you how to breathe.
You can imitate what they're doing, but most people, when they breathe or they're out of breath,
they take these big, huge breaths with their shoulders and they fill up their lungs up here, right?
So, yeah, if you think about it, right, your lungs are shaped like two teardrops or two pairs like this.
The parts that are up by your shoulders, they're the smallest part.
So, when people are breathing so much to fill up this much of your lungs and not this,
that's when you start gasping for it, right?
Because you're becoming oxygen star because you're only getting this little bit.
When you breathe out of your belly, not only does your diaphragm grow and your lungs grow because they're muscles, all right?
But that's when you can slow down everything, control your breathing, control your nervous system.
And in studies that Wim Hof has done, they literally gave like him and his entire team like pneumonia.
They gave it to him first and he wouldn't get sick.
Like, he just didn't get sick. They thought it was a fluke.
So, they took like ten of his students.
It might not be pneumonia. It was a flu.
Regardless, whatever it is, they gave like ten of his pupils fucking pneumonia and none of them got sick.
And this is like a documented study. You can Google it. It's amazing.
So, and he swears that you can actually control your body's own immune system by breathing.
So, pretty cool stuff, you know?
I've downloaded the breath work app. I'm up to level 18.
There you go. I do like three different exercises in the morning.
I do seven days to better performance. They have everything.
Seven days to lower blood pressure. Seven days to fucking reduce stress.
The app that the breathing exercise I think I'm getting the most out of is fucking the sleep one.
You know, it's a long inhale and a long exhale with a pause and then you have five, ten seconds to go back.
Don't I do it in bed with the sleep apnea mask on to really give me anxiety at night?
Because the cat's on top of me.
So, if I'm doing this and the cat's on top of me, I just have to pet her and my anxiety goes away.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, she's stupid. These two cats I have left or not, they're great cats. I love them with all my heart.
I used to have a cat that that motherfucker knew when I was anxious.
And he would jump on me and stick his claws into my chest and I would be, what would you do with me?
You know when you're anxious, you just want to be fucking alone.
When you're anxious, my wife kissed me the other day.
I'm like, Terry, come on, I'm getting anxiety attack.
And you want to linger over here for two minutes. Get the fuck out of here.
Go take a drive.
Go take a drive.
But I've been in situations where I've been fucking anxious, breathing, sweating, hyperventilating,
and that cat used to jump on me.
And I love that cat a lot.
I don't know, I'm not a big guy. I'm pushing animals or hitting them.
I would just sit there and go, Finny, get the fuck off me.
And he would squeeze his claws into me.
And I would go, ow, ow, ow.
But at the end of the hour, I was, guess what, that also happened.
Anxiety was gone.
That motherfucker knew what he was doing.
Oh, they all know. They have a sixth sense. All animals do.
They fucking know what he was doing.
So it's like at night, when I go upstairs now, I trust her.
I know she's always going to jump on my side.
So I'll do the breath work on my side, on my left shoulder.
And it pushed me out.
And it's pretty interesting.
I'll tell you why God works in a weird fucking way,
because I have the whoop app.
I fucking love the whoop app. It's helped me dramatically.
But what it's helped me with the most is sleep.
When you wake up in the morning with the whoop app, do you have one?
Yeah, I had one. I don't use it anymore just because I didn't like wearing it.
That didn't show all the data on it. So I use my Apple Watch now.
But I did have the whoop still. I just don't use it anymore.
It's really weird with the whoop. Remember what is it?
What does it ask you in the morning?
How rested do you feel?
No. How was your breathing? Did you have sex last night?
Oh, all the questionnaires.
Oh my God. Every morning you got to answer this questionnaire.
But let me tell you what they ask you. Did you cup?
Did you do acupuncture? Did you stretch?
Did you drink? All that stuff.
Did you drink alcohol? Well, they'll know by your breathing.
I have a sleep apnea machine, and it's got a computer in it.
So at the end of the month, they send me an email.
Oh, and that has all your data too?
Oh, yeah. That's cool.
That has a little bit more in depth.
But that data will tell you, as soon as you're drunk,
like the doctor would call me like a day after and go,
what, did you drink on the 18th?
Oh, you could see immediately.
Yeah, you could tell because you dehydrate and something goes wrong.
In your heart, Rego, alcohol is...
And I was a heavy drinker before you did, too.
Like a struggling heavy drinker, especially after Max passed away.
Alcohol is the worst drug in the world.
It's the worst drug in the world.
People have no understanding of what alcohol is going to do to you
in the long run.
Oh, it's absolutely terrible.
There's two things you can't quit without dying.
Alcohol and benzos.
Cold turkey, right. You would draw and die.
You would draw, you fucking, you have a great chance of dying.
So alcohol affects you also.
But what else goes by your day?
Like after the supplements and the weight of vest,
what else adds to your day?
Well, I come home.
Usually I have a healthy breakfast.
I go get my first training session in.
In between my first training session and the nighttime sessions,
when I actually do whatever work I need to get done.
So, you know, I still run my private equity group.
I just got into solar cells.
It's been doing really, really well.
So I get my work done.
But again, I get to make it on my schedule.
So that's like my time to do it.
And if I have something in that timeframe that has jiu-jitsu or the gym related to it,
I just rearrange my schedule.
So I'm really blessed now that I've put myself in that position.
I can make my day pretty much happy every day.
However I want it to.
Then I go back and get my second training session in for the day.
And I do try to dictate what my training sessions are.
Like I'll work on specific things for the entire week.
Even if the class is learning something,
I'll obviously be respectful and do the drills that the class is doing.
But when I roll, I always roll with a purpose.
Like not just, okay, I'm going to try some random shit out.
And if it works out great and I'm going to have some fun,
I go there every day with a purpose.
Like I'm going to work on this this week,
you know, either something I want to learn
or something that I'm lacking or, you know, whatever it is.
I feel like if you don't train with a purpose,
you're taking away a whole aspect of learning.
You know?
You know, perfect example is I tell people,
like anyone can imitate things.
Like when you go to jiu-jitsu at first,
and I could teach you how to do an arm bar right now.
And I can show you how to do a really good arm bar.
You'll know how to do an arm bar.
It doesn't mean you know how to do jiu-jitsu.
It just means you know how to do an arm bar.
My girlfriend has a fucking awesome arm bar.
You know what I mean?
She has no idea about conceptually how to do jiu-jitsu.
She just knows how to do an arm bar.
You know?
So I'm very big on learning the whole picture of it.
Not just imitating moves or seeing one cool thing on YouTube.
I'm going to learn that today,
even though it has no relevance to anything else that I'm doing.
That's it, man.
Home by 9 o'clock and bed by 9.30.
How many hours do you sleep on that?
It's a regimen that you sleep on.
I sleep six hours every night.
Six! That's it.
I'm good on six hours.
But it's got to be six solid hours of sleep.
You know what I mean?
When I train the way I train,
I go to bed by 11 o'clock and I'm up at 4.30 or 5.
But I was unconscious.
It's all REM sleep and I wake up feeling good.
I can sleep for 10 hours,
but get spotty sleep and wake up feeling like shit.
So six solid hours of sleep,
hydrated,
I take tons of salt.
Salt is a really big thing that people underestimate
for rehydration
and even for performance.
Every single time you exercise,
you burn an entire teaspoon
of salt,
which is 2,000 milligrams of salt.
Every time you have a cup of coffee,
you burn about 500 milligrams of salt.
People are at about a 5,000 milligram
deficiency of salt every day.
And salt actually helps you
rehydrate. It doesn't dehydrate you.
It doesn't raise your cholesterol.
It doesn't raise your blood pressure. It's all bullshit.
Salt is what your body acts.
It doesn't raise your body to actually hold
water.
So a lot of people need enough salt,
then they don't realize.
That's right. There you go.
But it's really weird,
even with liquid IV is a sponsor.
Yeah.
And that's got sodium in it.
It's got sodium in it.
And a little heavier than on the sodium.
I didn't know why.
That's exactly why.
And now I get it.
You know, they're taking salt pills during that time.
When you sweat,
you're not sweating water.
You're sweating salt, minerals, magnesium,
shit that your body needs.
So especially when you have an active lifestyle,
you need to take a lot more salt
than you actually would think is healthy.
You know, I'm somewhere between 5 and
additional. On top of what regular food
has in it and shit, I'm somewhere between
5 and 7,000 milligrams of salt
on top of that a day.
Wow. Which is what I'm losing
due to the gym and coffee.
I do drink a fair amount of coffee.
A lot of stretching in your world?
That's probably the one thing
that I've been trying so hard for years
to do that I just fucking hate doing.
So stretching for me is like,
every time I get injured, I'm like,
it's because I don't stretch enough. I'm 41.
And every time I get injured, I'm like,
once I start feeling better, I'm going to stretch again.
And I sign up for yoga classes and shit
that I never go to, because to me,
I hate stretching. It's boring.
I can train you just to 10 hours a day
and I'll be happy as can be. And to me,
stretching is like a flow roll
for one round. That's stretching. You know,
I'm used to nothing now. Now we can kill each other.
You know, but if you tell me to take 10 minutes
and go sit in the corner and like touch my toes and shit,
that 10 minutes feels like
it's like getting sent to the principal's office.
Like, I don't want to do this shit.
At night, I've been
into stretching. At night,
right before I go to bed, I'll turn the TV off
for like a half hour before.
I'll do a couple fucking downward
dugs. I'll do a couple warrior poses
for my shoulder just to stretch out
and open my chest. I'll mix
the breathing with it. And then the other
thing I do is I saw online
that some guys, like if you have knee problems,
get a fucking Olympic bar
and put it on your calf and roll it.
Right above the knee, so I get
the gun, I do that. And I got
the roller. And that's a fucking workout.
You got a roller. When I finish
10 minutes of the roller, you burn like
100 calories. You're picking yourself up.
You're rolling. You're like, what the, why am I breathing
so heavy? Huh.
Then your shirt gets caught in the roller.
Yeah, you're back and you choke yourself.
Now you're choking yourself. It's a fucking
nightmare. But I do it.
And that's why also, what I was talking
about, well, whoop, they give you a countdown.
And I'm like, why do they
give you this countdown? Is this, do you
have an animal in the room sleeping with you?
All these little fucking
things, like somebody in the bed with
you. Oh yeah. Did you sleep alone?
They asked you all these things. And it
really like made me fucking think about
it. But the two things they asked you,
they don't ask you if you worked out.
They asked you if you stretched.
It was stretching. And if there was
breath work. Yeah. And you set
those, right? Because you tell them in the beginning
like the things that you do. Then they ask
you if you did the things you told them that you do. Right? Yeah.
Okay. So you do those. I didn't know what breath
work really was. So I would just. I didn't either.
I really thought breath work was like she
was going to sit me in a nice chair and play
some of that like hippie music and shit, right?
And be like, take a nice deep breath
up to three and then
exhale. Yeah. Wait till I take you.
You're going to, you're going to have a half of a heart attack.
But I'm telling you, it's insane.
I have half a heart attack with the app. It's insane.
The app's got some shit. Like the app
will give you breath work. What's it called?
The app is called breath work. Yeah.
It'll give you some exercises
and then it'll give you, especially in the
mornings, that's when I need my breath work.
So I'll sit there in front of the computer.
I'll stand sometimes like in North Carolina.
I stood. It was really nice. I could see
the computer, what it was saying. But
there are things that you have to switch and fucking.
But there's some breathing work out
for like seven minutes long. Holy fuck.
Yeah. There's a black dude on
there, Terrell, that
teaches a couple classes. He,
that fucking dude will put you in another world,
man. I love
breath work now. Now because of it. It's amazing.
And it's helped me. It's
amazing. I noticed it
two weeks ago in Jiu Jitsu.
That when I was passing a guard, I was more
listen, when you're out of breath,
you can't focus.
Well, that's, that's, that's the whole
sympathetic, parasympathetic nervous
system. That's a hundred percent right.
And ironically, when you get nervous,
you stop breathing even more. When you get
nervous, you should breathe, right? But
human instinct is when you get nervous, you tighten up
and you make it even worse on yourself.
But I'll tell you what else is bad, the underlying
thing. When I go to a gym,
you know, especially with my knee or something,
I get anxiety. As soon as my knee does
something I don't like. That's it.
I'm on a different edge. Okay. I feel
everything open up because now I don't know
what's going on in my knee. Am I going to collapse?
Is this knee going to fucking just wilt?
I don't know what's going to happen. Right.
And even in with Jiu Jitsu, I can't lie to you.
When I walk into Jiu Jitsu, my anxiety
level is fucking high.
And at Hollis's, they have stairs.
Okay. Yeah, it's upstairs, right?
It's fucking crazy.
I go upstairs but not breathing.
I go up Hollis's stairs and when I get to the top,
I got a pee. I got to take my belt off.
I'm breathing.
That's the anxiety. Yeah. That was the
anxiety holding me down because
if I have anxiety on the mat when we do
warm-ups, it's a fucking night, man. Oh,
for sure. But as soon as I go and I feel
comfortable, the windows, everything's
all right, then I can breathe.
And knowing that breath work fixes that shit,
for me at least, I'm going to speak for myself.
Breath work for me helps me with anxiety
big time. I was somebody that had to carry around
Xanax all the time. But the cool thing
about taking, not the cool thing, but when
you take Xanax, the cool thing is when you have
anxiety and you have Xanax on you,
you don't get anxiety as much because
you know that you have the solution to it in your
pocket. You're like, well, if I do get anxiety,
I could take this and feel better, even though it's not
what you want to be doing. Well, I still have
that. It's just I don't need the Xanax anymore.
I know if I'm going to get anxious or have
the borderline panic attack or whatever,
I'm doing, go shit somewhere, do breath work
for five, ten minutes and get myself back
to where I'm feeling great and normal again.
You know, I never did Xanax, like
as a kid and all that. You do Xanax
when you do blow. People
give you fucking Xanax on the street
when you do blow.
And then, I don't know, over the years
I'm more of a speedier guy,
like I like cocaine. We all
like cocaine, so. I've never
tried it. I was never,
you know, I like Quailudes.
But what I'm trying to say is I was never
a downer type of guy. Right. Same.
Like kids, when I was a kid, people
would show up with all these pills.
I was never really a downer type of guy.
Pain. No. No, I was.
When I was a kid, I tried codeine.
I got, I had a twist in my ankle.
They gave me codeine. I puked for a week,
so that was the end of that.
Vicodines make you feel kind of weird.
Like, I'll tell you what, if I was going
to a Dodger game, I would ask my buddy
to bring me to Vicodine. And I'd pop them
into a Dodger game and sit there in the
heaven. But I would go to a Dodger game
once a year, so it's not, you know, it's
not bad. I don't feel guilty about it.
But Xanax, I had a prescription since
2010, and I would take them
periodically because you can't take
Xanax when you have sleep apnea.
You can't take the fucking strong ones.
You can take the ones that control
anxiety, but they don't do shit. No.
They don't put you to sleep or anything. Bro.
You know, I have a high tolerance
for a lot of shit. Like, if I get
a penicillin shot and I do penicillin,
like I get a penicillin shot, you're going
to have to come back the next day and give
me another penicillin shot. Really? Wow.
Since I'm a kid, all that shit
works a little backwards on me.
So when the pandemic started, a little
bit before the pandemic was when I started
the night after I tried
to follow Holly, the girl
that's a writer, and I got such
a bad anxiety attack that I blacked out
on stage for 12 minutes.
Think of walking on stage in front
of people at the world famous
coffee store, your heart beating.
I couldn't see and I kept
looking to the window on the side.
They boarded it up at the main room.
When I would be in the original room,
I could always look to the side and see
the traffic on Sunset, see the door
guys. When they boarded that up,
I went into a fucking state of
panic and I woke up 12
minutes into the set and they were fucking
on the floor like I had shot them.
People would just laugh and I'm like, what are you laughing about?
Are you laughing at me?
I didn't laugh at me having an anxiety attack.
But obviously, I just went from
muscle memory and I was just
killing them. I just woke up
on stage like, okay, thank you.
And I ran the fuck out and I caught a road.
It's the worst feeling ever. I've been there.
It's the worst feeling ever.
That was it. So I started taking it and I would
put the Xanax in my pocket, the little football.
And then I kept going to the store
but somebody would give me a joint
and then you forget to take the Xanax.
But my wife was washing the Xanax.
I was putting the
I was putting the Xanax in my top
pocket. But once the pandemic
hit, I couldn't stop taking the fucking Xanax.
Yeah. I mean, listen, they help.
They do it. When you have anxiety, they help.
They help for a while and then
they feed into it. Well, yeah.
I mean, you become dependent on it.
No, it wasn't even the dependence.
When I moved to New Jersey,
if you told me come over to my house,
I would take the Xanax
and by the time I got the house,
I'd have to take another football.
Because you were still like anxious.
It was social anxiety.
So it was social. It was a bunch.
It was just the COVID fear.
It was the COVID fear mixed with anxiety,
which is not fucking good.
No, believe me. I've been there before every competition
and still to this day. I mean, I've competed a million times.
I still, for the 10 minutes
before I actually walk out and compete,
my fucking vision goes black.
I'm sweating and in my head, I'm like,
I keep doing this to myself every time.
I'm like a masochist and torture myself
every month with this shit.
Not in the league of competitions
that you're at, obviously. You're at it
to the world this weekend.
But in local competitions, is that a tool
elimination?
It depends on the competition.
Here's my problem.
I'm going to get anxiety on the first match.
I go up against a blind guy
and I'm going to lose.
My first match in a competition, I'm going to lose.
It's the type of person I am.
You can't look at it that way. Your first match,
you're going to win because you're going to do the first match.
That's winning.
You know what I'm saying?
No, in the long run, you win.
But what I'm saying is, even when I went to
as a kid karate tournaments,
you would always get two points on me.
A motherfucker would always get two points on me.
And then my Cubanism, my New Yorkism
would come out and I'd kick you in the stomach
and I'd win and I'd get disqualified.
I would lose my mind and kick above the...
Because when I was in karate, it was just
belt and neck, right?
You couldn't kick above the thing. I'd kick him in the head
with a spinning back kick or something.
But then, that's the type. You have to smack me once.
When I played basketball,
you have to put eight points on me up.
Okay, motherfucker, that's what I want to do.
Let's rock. I'm one of those guys.
So the first competition I would do,
it had to be double elimination.
Because I'm just going into the first time to hold on.
There's a lot of places around Robin
you're guaranteed three matches.
You know? There's one actually
NJBJJF, which is like New Jersey,
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. It's right in...
I think it's at
CBA or like one of these local colleges.
And that is like the perfect...
This is my first competition
competition. It's around Robin,
you're guaranteed two or three matches.
It's generally a lot of people's first competition.
The chances are you'll be going to
get somebody that's their first competition too.
And you just get the experience.
And I could pull guard? You could pull guard.
Because I'm not going to be thrown.
I'm not the guy that's going to talk you out of pulling guard.
I play guard. There's these people out here
that say if you play guard
you don't get into Valhalla.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not one of those guys.
Once my knees went and I couldn't shoot anymore,
I'm a guard player.
So what are you doing this weekend?
The Worlds?
Masters Worlds in Vegas.
And this is the biggest tournament for Jiu Jitsu?
Because I don't know.
The biggest tournament for Masters.
I mean the biggest tournament in Jiu Jitsu is
Adult Gii Worlds.
This is Masters Gii Worlds for everyone over 30.
And then I have
in October, No Gii Pans
which I won last year. And then in December
No Gii Worlds which I won last year.
They didn't have Masters Worlds
or Pans last year
because of COVID in the Gii.
So I only got to compete in No Gii.
This year they had all of them.
And I took second
in, I think it was April
and ended up breaking my ribs like I told you
in the 30 seconds left in the finals
and I couldn't finish the match.
So that kind of got me. And the guy that I lost to
was in my bracket in this one.
So I hope I get him again.
Get a little chance of redemption.
It's pretty interesting that
10 years ago obviously
15 years ago before the Jiu Jitsu Revolution
it was basically for
just athletes.
Nobody
could have walked into a Jiu Jitsu place.
And now
Jiu Jitsu has grown so much
that you see all shapes and sizes
and it fucking inspires the shit out.
And the coolest part is some of the
very, very, very best guys
like Mikey Musimachi for example
who by the way is extremely athletic
but I just mean by looking at him
it's not someone you would consider like
oh this kid's a jock, this kid's a specimen
look at him, you know what I mean? He's this big
and he's
one of the best ever, ever to live
in the sport. He's amazing.
But it's just so weird how
I could go online now
and look up Jiu Jitsu for a 50 year old.
Oh yeah. Jiu Jitsu for a 60 year old.
What are the benefits, what are the
it's all there and I'm seeing it
like when I left that light
there was one other old guy in my school
in the whole school that was just and I would try
to go in to roll with him.
He finally came to when they was like
we gotta get each other's number because
they're feeding the purpose. I'm coming in here
to fight these 20 year olds and they're not
they're just shutting me down.
And now they have so many things
available for over 40. Like I just
went to class Sunday and they signed
two other older guys
and I went up through and gave them a hug
and said you know just keep coming don't get
you know there was a girl that joined
that she was so big she couldn't
put Jiu Jitsu pants on.
I saw her Saturday she's wearing deep pants
and wait a year from now.
And you know it's like go at your own
pace you don't need to be scared no more
nobody's gonna choke you.
None of those schools want that reputation.
They don't want the reputation that
if Mikey comes in and he's been a guitar
player all his life and he comes in here
they're not gonna break your fucking fingers
you know that's what and look at all the
people in entertainment that are doing Jiu Jitsu.
When you talk to Ricky Rocket from Poison
like I knew Ricky
like from Eddie Bravo like Eddie
Joey this Ricky I don't
I never knew the guy then one day
I went to an airport and there he was
and we were both on the same flight we got
stuck for fucking eight hours so I started
talking to him we started talking to me and I'm like
this guy's not even a rock star
you've seen what's his name from
Tool when he's on
Rogan he don't even look like a
fucking rock star he loves
Jiu Jitsu more than
fucking he loves Jiu Jitsu
and this guy
I remember when I talked to Ricky I go Ricky you're excited about
this Tool and he's like I don't know
I can't do my privates
that's what he was concerned about not that he was gonna make millions of dollars
not that he was gonna make millions of dollars
it changes you
it changes you and there's days
like I tell you what burns me up the most
there's days like I have a plan like you
you know what I'm gonna do this I gotta make these calls
I gotta write this submit it and then I'm gonna catch
a quick 45-minute Jiu Jitsu class
like a couple weeks ago
I fucking had an appointment at DraftKings
like a conference call
and I fucking didn't go to
class
and then they called me at like fucking
11 and said we're gonna push the meeting
back
I get more furious at that
I couldn't go to class because
you fucking pushed the meeting
back you mother fuck
like that fucking bothers me to
death now like so
it's it's it's been completely
different for me and after I met you
I really started thinking about
what I wanted to do like how I wanted
to do this you know I'm
gonna lose weight I'm gonna go down to 250
I put some weight on last
week on the fucking vacation
it was scary it's alright it's cumulative
not week by week it's what happens at the end
of the year listen man where I was
and where I am yeah it's two different
fucking stories so and now
I want to this is what I want to do
I'm happy I'm not doing comedy as much
as I am anymore you're not very funny
yeah that was
not anymore I really
it's so weird how I get my
moments of being funny but I'm not like
my mind isn't dancing
I'm in New Jersey now I got
beautiful people around me you know it's like
it's like I
still like going on stage
but I much rather go to
to class three four days a week
you know I'm getting to an age
I'm six months away from being 60
and I saw Hollis today when I
trained and he goes you really like it
you know why if I was in another school
like in LA I couldn't go there anymore
they would just kill me
you know Baral and you know
all those schools Alberto Crane's got
a great school but here
I could go to this school
till I'm 70 I could just tell
I could go there till I'm 70 because there's a guy
that's in the 60s that goes here
twice a week cute this old man
in the world he doesn't run
he just does little slides for his warm-ups
we play sometimes
me and him I go where the fuck you been
he goes out my wife won't let me out of the house
there was a 70 year old guy
that I got a stroke during class
and came back two days later
he's got the itch
he was a Vietnam vet
a fucking military guy
and he joined there about a year ago I haven't
seen him because I think he moved
he moved to another school now
but he was fucking 70 he went in there one
day he got a stroke he came back
two days later there's a listen man
we don't want you in class like you don't understand
I need this I need this shit
that's what happens you either come in
and you get obsessed to where it consumes
your life you know what I mean like people become
drug addicts it's the same fucking addiction
you know it's just a more healthy addiction
you know but people either come in and they get obsessed
or they just fade out
real quick you know there's
really no middle ground it's like oh this is
okay I kind of have fun I'll go once a
week and see how it happens you either go in
and you're like this is the coolest shit I've ever done
or you come in and like this guy just
sweat in my fucking eye
in my mouth right and
he had his balls in my face and I don't
think I'm I don't think this is for me you know
for me that sounds like a glorious day
right
let me tell you something man
you know
I don't understand how to say listen let's be
honest with ourselves December
whatever July 16th
when I first got on stage for the first time
I had a three-minute set
I'm not going to lie to anybody
in my mind I thought I sucked
you know the first time I got on stage I'm
like
but I did have something I had a presence
you know I had something going
for me okay we can build on it
you're not the funniest guy in the world but we can build
on this okay when I walked off
the set that day I remember looking at my wife
at the time and going
I gotta get rid of this check
like right the first time I got on stage
the first time I got on stage
it's just I wanted
to be a fucking guy I knew right there
it's the weirdest feeling
that you do something one time
I get your 15 fucking jobs
I get your job tomorrow as a chef
at the best restaurant let's go to cousins
okay I get your job at cousins okay
that's the first day you're going to go you know what
I don't know Joey
not for me it's either for me I like the food
you know I like cooking but it's not for me
I got on stage and pretty much
bombed the first time I knew
I had presents just by their faces
how I walked up when I got
off the stage I knew that
like my roofing career was fucking
done my salesman
career was fucking done
and this chick I married to who I love
she gotta go
because she's standing in my way
of me doing what the fuck I want
to do here's the difference with jujitsu
first time I walked into jujitsu I got choked
I got thrown around
I had a run and pee outside
take my top walk the first time somebody
mounted me I was still hooked
yeah of course
how can you be hooked on something that you don't even
have an aptitude
because I think it's easy
especially when you're in a class with some talented
athletes I think it's easy to observe
what's actually possible
right then you talk to some people and you're like
how long have you been training like I've been training for a year
I've been training for two years but those people all
suck too sometimes worse than you
so when you see what everyone else has done
they all started in the same place
okay if I just I know it sounds tacky because
this is what everyone says but if I just keep showing up
eventually I'll be that good
and then eventually I'll be that good
and I'm gonna keep getting better
this is the fucking lesson of the day
keep showing the fuck up
you're gonna suck
that's applicable to anything
keep doing it
and I think for me going back to jujitsu
it was the lesson I learned from stand up comedy
listen and it's like anything else in life
you know I could tell you Mike guess what
I got a guitar and I know how to play
cocaine and you're like okay
you know when you're in a band and somebody comes
up to you and they're like I learned how to play
tiptoe through the tulips you're like okay
keep going
bad eye take if I come to you you're not gonna believe it
I joined jujitsu the first day I choked out a guy
you're like okay
that's great you know let's see if it happens
the second fucking day
let's see if you go back the third day you got beginner's luck
gambling you ever gamble
you always win the first time
you fuck with $8000
until the next day
and you lose $20,000
but with jujitsu I was hooked even though
I sucked at it
like I knew this is what I wanted to do
I don't care what I have to do
if the devil comes to me tomorrow and says you want to be a black belt
in jujitsu and compete
and be the best jujitsu I would do that before anything else
like I would do that
I would sell my soul
to just be able to hang out on the mats
but I won't sell my soul
because I see guys
that are brown belts
and they do what we do effortlessly
I can't wait till
you come to watch me do stand-up the first time
I can't wait either
you're gonna go bro
you just went up there and did this
and it looked like so easy
it's like when I watch Hollis Gracie Roll
he don't do nothing
what's second nature to him
he puts his hand, does something
think of it this way for him
like if you're taking a test
like a multiple choice test
and you just have every single answer before you even got the test
you already know what all the answers are
that's how he sees jujitsu and he rolls
like anything you're doing he knows exactly what you're gonna do
he knows what you're gonna do to defend it
which we talked about, you know what I mean
and when you already know what your opponent's gonna do
before they do it
you don't really have to work too hard
if I tell you like Joey in three seconds
I'm gonna punch you in the face
that's how they see everything
as soon as they see you move your hips a certain way
open your guard a certain way
he knows exactly what you're gonna do
you know it's been doing it for his whole life
it's second nature, just like comedy
second nature to you
so I finally got like I'm a black belt in comedy
I'm a black belt with a couple of red stripes
like a coral belt
cause you get those every three years
while you're a black belt
you get your first three every three years
and your second two every five years
you go to coral belt
so yeah I'm like a coral belt
I could go up there and just see the game
when people talk to me about their stand up
like I'm a patron
I don't have to watch their set
I don't even do comedy, two years
I know where you're at, I pretty much know where you're at
you're just getting it together
you might be really good
in your mind you think you're better
you think you're ready to hang out with Rogan and Chappelle
but you're really not
you're gonna go there and try it one time
and you're gonna come back
with not the result you want
and then you'll start to stay in your lane more
and we all do that with Jujitsu
I'm gonna go over there and train with Hendo
really wait till he throws you out the fucking window
there's definitely levels to the game
so your first match is Friday night
I don't know what time on Friday yet
my first match is Friday
but the whole weekend will be on flow grappling
the whole weekend on flow grappling
so I want people at home
if you have a flow grappling account
a lot of Jujitsu people watch this podcast
support my man Rob Schaefer
and
we'll be fucking cheering for you here
thank you brother, I appreciate it
and when you come back with the title
without the title, you're still coming back here again
to let us know about your experiences
I'm looking forward to it brother, can't wait
I also want to start doing some type of videos with you
to help people like
if you want to video our lessons
you can video them, I think that'd be great
because I love the fact that people
of all aspects, of all walks of life can do Jujitsu
and I think people that don't do it
don't realize that, you know what I mean
there's a million people that are like
oh you trained Jujitsu, you're in great shape
I'm not in great shape so I can never do that
you know what I mean, so I think it'd be great to bring more notice
I was going to quit Jujitsu
but then I said okay I have
a problem with my knee
I could tap the fuck out on a lot of things on this
but then I thought about one of the greatest
fucking black belts we have in the world
today which is John Jock Machado
and John Jock has a disability
with his hands, he can't really grab
so I thought about him
and he just has to work, you know
I've never spoken to him about it
but I know like I've asked some of his students and they go
he's brilliant and he works his way around it
and that's what made me go back to Jujitsu
yeah I got one knee down
but I still got three motherfuckers
and now you have a great half guard, right?
and I got a great half guard and I can put my weight on it
the eyeballs pop out
honest to God I have a great time going
and let me tell you what the main reason
about going to Jujitsu is guys
to grow as a human being
you got to surround yourself with fucking champions
man, honest to God
the only way to sharpen metal
is metal, metal sharpens fucking metal
and for me
comedy I learned from a lot of great people
from Rogan, a lot of great people in my life
but with Jujitsu
man, you take a little piece from everybody
in that class every day
somebody gives you something
they're the most interesting people in the fucking world
honest to God
and you know I'm a boring fuck like with people
these Jujitsu people man
I go to my class, there's a Cuban kid
there's a Chinese kid, there's a black dude
who was a fucking wrestler
with Chris Wideman
he was on the same team as Chris Wideman
so I fuck around with him because he's a white white white belt
right, but he's a good wrestler
oh my god
so he's not a white though
no, he should he does
do you follow you, what you do
my Instagram is robchaffer underscore
bjj, but truth be told
I don't really, not one of these people that share
all my workouts and stuff, I'm 41
so I kind of came from that like old school thing
I'm private, I'm private
I don't want people to see me getting choked out
but if it helps you come to the school
yeah, absolutely
because you're going to live, you're going to get choked out
for 20 days and then one day you're going to figure out
how to make it choked out anymore
and if you're 50 and 60 and you're just sitting there
talking couch, come on guys
go to a class twice a fucking week
twice a week will change your life
just going to eat with different people
just talking about what people do with vitamins
it's mind boggling
and you just be surprised at friendships that you make
because unlike some other sports
I personally, and I'm not saying this from a biased
point of view, but I think in jiu-jitsu
there's a bigger camaraderie
than any other sport I play
I played hockey, I wrestled my whole life, I've been in other sports
and I love sports, there's always a brotherhood
in the locker rooms and shit
nothing like jiu-jitsu and now at this point
anything that I do in life
if I'm putting a new bathroom in my house
if I get arrested and I need a lawyer
I go to the room, there's lawyers, there's doctors
there's fucking plumbers, there's carpenters
I got everything you can ever ask for
so that's why everyone laughs like oh how could we never come out anymore
to my older group of friends
which I still love very much
I just don't have anything in common anymore
all I want to do is talk about jiu-jitsu with people
they don't want to talk about jiu-jitsu
you don't know about ADCC in two weeks
we have nothing to talk about
but Rob, I wish you all the luck this week
I appreciate you
thank you for coming on
I love you guys, we're all in my heart
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