Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #215 - Joey Diaz, John Evans, Dr. Joel Crandall and Lee Syatt

Episode Date: September 22, 2014

Jiu Jitsu Coach John Evans joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt in studio with a special call from Dr. Joel Crandall. This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout. Hulu Plus. Visit Huluplus.com/joey for an extended free trial. Dollar Shave Club. Use promo code CHURCH and get high quality razors sent to your door. HITecigs.com For a better tasting, longer lasting e cig go to HITecigs.com. Use Promo code joeyschurch for a 20% discount Music:  Check Yo Self -Ice Cube I Wanna Be Around - Tony Bennet Cemetary Gates -Pantera Recorded on 09/21/2014

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You better check yourself, call your wreck yourself, because I'm bad for your health. I come real stealth, dropping bombs on your motherfuckers. Hit it, Lee. Oh shit. Wigglefuck with joey Lee. Oh shit, little wiggle. Oh shit. And friends know we got that endow. No, I'm not a sucker, sitting in a house of pain. Look at Lee, he's getting all excited. I'll touch your head, you say you can't touch this, and I wouldn't touch you. Motherfucker. What? What? What? What? What? What's going on, baby? Nothing. I had a fun weekend. I know. You had the girlfriend, you tied her up. What are you going to do? You have to. You bastard. You love her, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. She loves you too. I can see you guys have a nice time. You know, for each other.

It's fun. We were talking and we almost. Almost eloped. No, no, God. My mom and my mom would be on the next flight out with a gun. You'd be out of the will. Oh yeah. There was no, there's no will, but we were going to do something. We were like sitting around the house and we didn't really have anything to do, and we're like, why don't we drive to Vegas? Why don't we drive to San Francisco? We almost did it, and then we both looked at each other. We're like, we like doing this, and she was asleep by like 11 o'clock, 10.30 on Friday night. Saturday, we met with Kim and saw your shows. It's just. You get some breakfast, you go into the gym. Yeah, we will go to the gym together. It's fun. You should ride a little bike and drive around fucking Hollywood. I tried

to get a bike and you broke it down for me for like 20 minutes. You wanted a bike by yourself to put a helmet on to ride on fucking Burbank Boulevard. They'll kill you. Okay. I'm talking about a bike when you and her get together on the same bike and you go to a park. A tandem bicycle? Yeah, and you ride around with little helmets on and you look so fine. You feed the ducks. If I had a tandem bicycle, like I feel like you would have a joey sense. I would just buzz and you'd call me, like get off that cocksucker and hang up. No, I'd probably hit you with the fucking call if I saw you. Have you seen anyone on a tandem bike? I see some fucking people doing some weird shit up here. There's a guy in this area that has a bicycle that you sit on. They were coming by. Yeah,

did you see those? Yeah, we were together one day when he came up. That fucking mutt. There's like two or three of them. They follow each other. They get in the middle of the lane. You know, I don't see the purpose for that, but maybe they don't see the purpose on why people do jumping jacks. You know, I had a beautiful weekend. You did with the family, the baby, the wife. Brea was great. You know, the shows are great. You know, new tribes of new materials. Some of it failed. Some of it did good shows are fucking crazy. That's all I could ask for. You know, I got to work on my knee. The swelling is going down. That's good. How long has it been since the surgery? It's going to be a month on Tuesday. And what does the normal recovery time? You know,

everything's different. I bet if I was 22, it would be five weeks. You know, I'm 51. I don't know. You know, I don't know. Yeah, I'm doing everything I can. I'm doing everything by the book. I went through a different couple of different web pages. I spoke to it. Well, I know it's a different level, but whenever like a football player does his ACL, they're like, Oh, he's gone for the year. So I mean, I know you're not getting to football playing shape, but it seems like it would take a little bit longer. What's time? It's just time. My main man is here today, Mr. John Evans, Jiu-Jitsu fucking Savage, my coach, my life coach, my everything coach. What's happening, brother? Not much, man. Thanks for having me. No, you know,

it's funny because I've known you for like two years. And one of your friends, well, he said he was a friend. He said he hadn't seen you in a while. So he trained the five star. That's never a five star. Yeah. And he goes, it's really nice to get him on the show. And I watched his BJJ break that. Have you ever seen? I go, no, I watched his videos, but I didn't know he broke stuff down. So I went on there the other night. It was just great. And you're funny. I thought it was funny. You were like, you know, it's different, you know? And just I think I watched who I watched two of them. But one guy is right. Fuck, no, I can't. I was going to write it down. I forgot, but you had a guy that won something and he went up against another purple belt,

and he did a tremendous move. Like he, he swept them, but they put his leg under him. I fucking, I'm terrible. I saw a move today, like at one of those gifts, they put on Facebook and stuff. It was like a Jiu-Jitsu guy, like running and jumping into somebody and rolling and like ended up tapping him. Does that ever happen? Or was that just like a demonstration? No, that can happen. For sure. He just ran and jumped and took the guy off his feet. Yeah, it was crazy. I tell you about the instructional on there yesterday. Cabrinha and his son. Oh, yes. Facebook sweep from the leg, the double underspace. Yeah, to the backtake. Right. Yeah, to the backtake. Beautiful stuff. Pretty fucking pretty intense, man. Those guys are

I didn't even know Cabrinha had a 17 year old. Yeah, I know. I know. And he's really good. He came when he had a cabrinha brought him up to his gym to train with us when he was brand new. Like he didn't know anything about Jiu-Jitsu and he was not good. But obviously he's a beginner. And just the difference in the last, I mean, he hasn't been training that long, just maybe two years, something like that. He is really good. Like a very good, very good purple belt level. And he's just a blue belt and he's only 17. So I mean, that kid's going to be, he's probably going to be a world champ one day. He's super, super good. Man, well, the mistake that we didn't get into this when we were 10. Jesus fucking Christ. Jesus Christ.

It's such a great sport. Now it's growing leaps and bounds, you know, and I tell you what, I'm pretty bored with the UFC right now. At this point in my life, like, I like to see a couple fights, but it wasn't what it used to for me. Like it's not like, I was really excited about seeing Joe Lozan. I'm excited about seeing Kormir. I'm excited about seeing Yo Romero next week. It's fighting Tim Kennedy. Oh yeah. That's a great fucking fight, you know. But I really, I'm really, every night I go home and sometimes my wife's not in the room and I'll put the computer on. I'll just watch like jiu-jitsu, like regular. And that's what I really liked about your BJJ breakdown, that it's just amateurs pretty much. The guy saw was a purple belt

against another purple belt, which was very interesting to watch because everybody always wants to see champions. I think it's a great idea for a TV show, something late night. You know, here we are in Pennsylvania, you know, like just go to every week, there's tournaments everywhere. And all you need is like five little guys. I think it's a great idea. I loved it, John. That's why you hit them. I was blown the fuck away. I'm like, this is a great idea. What the hell's the matter with you? What are you giving me the evil life for? I'm not, no, it's just the fucking joy. What's going on? Well, I gotta give you the joy. I'm gonna slip or something. What's going on? I feel like you have a dollar falling out of your

pocket. But it's amazing. Like I got a lot of people even today. Someone's like, when are you going to do jiu-jitsu? And I've been working out recently. And I did, I wrestled in high school and I did Taekwondo as a little kid. So I have a little bit of martial arts background, nothing that I would remember. But it's still, it seems a little bit too much for me. Like I feel like I need to lose more weight, which I know I don't, but it's like you get in your own head. But it is amazing how the only introduction I have, the only thing I can relate to the jiu-jitsu is the UFC. And I've met Eddie Bravo a few times. And I see some of these videos of people bending their legs and doing stuff that I know I can't do. So it would be kind of cool to have like a white belt

who looks like me and just like doing, doing like the, what did you, what did you call them when you did them across the room, the hips? Hipscapes. Hipscapes. That'd be kind of fun. Listen, Lee, just think of it this way. If I was 26 and I had an opportunity to join jiu-jitsu tomorrow, I would. Because I know by the time I'm 40, I'd be a black belt. Even if you lose the weight, it takes you one year, maybe 18 months. You're a young man. Even if it takes you two years to catch up to everybody, because you're going to get thrown a lot of stuff in jiu-jitsu. And you're not going to understand. And one day it really does hit you. You really, I have to learn more in the last couple of weeks from not doing it and just thinking, and oh my God, that move is supposed

to be a quick, quick move. You're not supposed to sit there. It's supposed to be a one, two, three, bam. It's just very interesting. It keeps my mind sharp, which I like. I like doing something that's out of my something. Come around, man. Yeah, not even comfort. Something, when I go to jiu-jitsu, we don't talk about comedy. We don't talk about podcasting. We don't talk about agents. We don't talk about the jiu-jitsu latest movie. So what else is there to talk about? Jiu-jitsu. It's good for me. It's an outlet for somebody like me that's involved in this shit, and I get frustrations like everybody else. I can't imagine something like John. John is a coach. He's a competitor. He's got no other fucking outlet. What's he going to do? Come to

the comedy club and get on stage? Do you know what I'm saying? No, I'm just teasing you. But that's, for me, that's what it is. And I would use anything like that, even karate. If there was a karate class and I could go twice a week where nobody would ask me about the podcast, nobody would ask me about anything. People would just come up to me and say, Joe, you got to work on your front kick, or Joe, you got to work on your guard. That's great for a guy like me. Yeah, I wish I, the quitting Taekwondo was a bad choice. I was like, I don't think I was even in middle school yet, and I was a red belt, because I'd been doing it for years. And the biggest trophy I ever won was like yellow belt forms. I got first place. And so I had it until I was like 22 at my mom's

house until she finally moved. It was a bit taller than me the day they, it was taller than me than me the day I won it. It was like your first grade or something crazy like that. Yeah, John, tell me a story. How you got into Jiu Jitsu? You didn't get into Jiu Jitsu and no, you know, I was, I'm still heavy, but you got in after an accident, correct? Yes. Yeah, I mean, I did, I did karate for a while when I was a kid and Taekwondo. And it's surprising, people are pretty quick to shun those traditional martial arts, because they're, you know, they don't see them as being valid, especially up until recently in the UFC when Machita started using Shotokan, karate, and now we see like people like George St. Pierre, they control the distance very well. But so I think,

honestly, those helped me a lot, like especially the Taekwondo with the kicks, because it's all hips. And so I feel like it's easy for me to understand, you know, the level of movement in the hips and Jiu Jitsu is a lot of hips. So when you say that the those original forms are being like, looked down upon, is it was it the like, the masters looking down or like, which is a fans, because I would imagine the masters all learned karate. Like that's, it's kind of like, it's not a bad thing, but it's, we talk about some comedians come in fat, come in and fat, and they have a certain amount of time that they're popular. It seems like right now Jiu Jitsu is like at the top of its popularity. So that would mean eventually it's going to fall down. And then someone will

probably look down at Jiu Jitsu. And it's just, oh, it's interesting how that happens. Yeah. I mean, hopefully it's not at the top of its popularity, because, you know, it's a great sport. And it's really not very popular right now. Unfortunately, I mean, it's way more popular than it ever was. Yeah. But it's there's just so much to it. And there's so many people that you should be in it. There should be like a lot more money there. We should have professional Jiu Jitsu athletes. And that doesn't happen right now. The only way to really make money in Jiu Jitsu is to, you know, win a big tournament, and then open your own school and have people come and come in to pay you to learn. So I think that's unfortunate because we should have just top competitors

right now. But I mean, you know, if it does go down in popularity, I mean, I'm sure it will at some point, just like everything does. But I mean, a lot with the traditional martial arts, I think they went down in popularity just because like anything else, there's a big boom. Like I think what was it the 70s when with Bruce Lee and, you know, like in America, everyone wanted to learn, you know, karate or kung fu or whatever. And there's this boom. And then of course, a ton of teachers come out and start teaching it. And it just keeps getting watered down. And as it gets more popular and spread out, and you see, you know, you'll have children that are 12 that have black belts and stuff like that, which is, you know, like in Jiu Jitsu, you can't get your

black belt, you can't even get, I don't think you can get your blue belt until you are 16. So you have to be like you started a white like everyone else, but then there's a bunch of other belts that you get as a juvenile. And until you're 16, then you can get your blue belt, and then you can go up the ranks as an adult from there. So he brought up an interesting point about the teachers. How would like, I'm very lucky that I have some people who are in Jiu Jitsu who could tell me go see John Evan, go see Eddie Bravo. How would like a guy back where I'm from in Boston, like not know either to find the right guy or know if he has the wrong guy, because there have to be some pretty bad Jiu Jitsu like it just, it must happen. Yeah, there's probably a lot of bad Jiu

Jitsu coaches and you know, it's really tough. I had this problem myself when when I was starting out. You just don't know what you don't know and it sounds really dumb kind of but but how are you going to know, you know, what's out there what you're missing if you don't already know that stuff. So, you know, you just go to any place and you put your faith in that instructor and hopefully the vibe is something that fits you, you know, like maybe they're very positive there or maybe you want like a drill instructor type of person if you if that type of energy motivates you or or whatever just people that that are like-minded. And so you just hope that you're learning the best techniques but I mean I think I was training for nearly two years when I started to realize I

was looking up online on the forums and people were talking about all these different positions and I didn't know hardly any of them so maybe something's up maybe I should start looking around at different gyms and I mean that's about as good as as you can hope for just kind of keep an open mind to know that the place that you're at is not the end all be all of whatever you're taking and you know look around I think that is was really looked down upon in the beginning of Jiu Jitsu. They used to call you like a Crianche which is a he's a guy from a Brazilian soap opera that was like a trader so they used to call the people that would go around to different gyms but now it's not so much of a thing that was back in old school Brazil when there was no video

there's no YouTube and and everyone would have their own styles and then if you went from one gym to another then you would show them their styles and you know this huge trader and it was a big terrible thing so normally you'd only get to see those new techniques when the top level guys would do them in a tournament maybe like once a year or whatever so but that's all gone I think now just seeing what's out there is is the best way to do it and just try to keep an open mind. Is that why they have like like there's the 10th planet there's the Machados there's the Gracie's is that why they have those schools so it's kind of like if you're at this kind of school with this name someone up there has checked this guy out or is it

is it like a franchise now? Well now it's probably more like a franchise but I mean back in the day you know like Gracie Baja was in it was from Baja Brazil you know like it's that that that area of where it was I think it's in Rio yeah it's in Rio and you did not go to I don't even know was around back then but you didn't go to the other gym you wouldn't go to Gracie, Humaita maybe or you wouldn't go to Checkmat or whatever you know I don't think they were around back then at all but you know you wouldn't go to the other teams gyms because that's they had a different style and if you were to tell your secrets you know the gym secrets to this other gym like oh man it was just that was the worst thing you could do so but I mean now

there's anyone goes to a tournament and does a new move like it's all over the internet and five minutes and everyone knows it and is deconstructing it so all that's gone it's you know a lot of the moves are now similar from gym to gym certain styles like my coach Cabrinha he comes from Terere who was a fantastic grappler he beat Marcello Garcia just he kind of revolutionized Jiu Jitsu in a way like he's a he was very athletic but also very technical and fast and you'll see people that come from him have a similar style so you'll see different different ways that that the students when they become teachers they'll show the technique and they kind of have similar styles to them but I mean really everyone's doing

everyone else's thing now too I mean you look at like the Barambolo which was the real big popular thing and the Mendes brothers did it and Cabrinha was doing it and you know all the real sporty guys but then the guy that's credited with inventing it was Samuel Braga who's Gracie Baja guy and you know those couldn't be you know more different so you know everyone's doing all of it and a lot of it almost everything that's out there now and is popular now comes from old school judo like old old school judo where they have books where all of it has been laid out already and you'll see like a go-go plot or something that like Eddie Bravo does and you'll see that in those old black and white pictures and just like what this this was back then and you know yeah so it's just it

wasn't at the level that it is now so you know no one knows about that it's already been you know invented and figured out but yeah it's a it's pretty interesting now I think now just try to try to find the gym that suits you and you know you don't necessarily need a black belt instructor if that's what you don't have access to and and sometimes that's not even the best thing for you but typically I mean I try to find the the place that's going to give you what you want if you want to compete maybe go with a competitor but also know that just like in basketball or something you know you got like Pat Riley and who is the guy that coach the Lakers Phil Jackson Phil Jackson yeah right like they're they're basketball players but they weren't fantastic

right sometimes the best players don't make good coaches so I mean I was actually a little skeptical fucking great point you know that's it Phil Jackson was horrendous I grew up on fucking Phil Jackson and I used to gamble in the eighth grade and seventh grade like little bets ten dollars like me and why the old Donald would split like a five-timer and whenever they put Phil Jackson in we would watch the game on the phone so I would call Lee and we go Lee ready and we'd watch the game go that motherfucker so you and me would be talking about the game like let's say we bet the Knicks okay so we bet the Knicks and we'd watch the game on the phone we were that young and you know your mom would say get off the phone what the fuck are you doing I'm I'm

talking to Lee we're talking about the phone uh the game and then but once Phil Jackson would get put in we'll like turn I'll talk to you tomorrow don't fuck it we'd hang out you know but uh great questions tonight and especially the one about there's a lot of people who put down traditional martial arts and I've read it a lot the last two or three years and I don't believe that I think every martial arts has one or two things that if you keep working on that it will help you will it help you in the UFC will it help you in a street fight fucking maybe fucking maybe because if you just know one kick just one kick just one leg kick if you just kick upward even if it's wrong if you know how to get the most power that kick up even if you break your leg when you're kicking his

knee but he goes down the martial art worked it got you out of a fucking bind you know martial art is what you want it to be I will look both of you guys in the eye and tell you that the day I quit martial arts was the day I let drugs into my life as a young man so that's what the martial art was doing for me it was calming me down the people that I went to the karate with the gush and rukarati with his name was kevin norlander the guy and he was a fucking nazi you know he was perfect for me and smile he was a vietnam vet he had been tortured he had learned this before he went to vietnam and practiced it in vietnam and while he was in vietnam he learned other styles from people from other places so if you're from kansas and you know shodokan and i'm a

gush and rukai then we'll exchange so this guy was his hands were big he was he wasn't a nice guy I used to play basketball by where he used to live and he would see him and he wouldn't even say fucking hello like he just wasn't a nice guy at all but his teaching was effective and not what he talked to you because he had the soldier mentality so he talked to you as a young kid like a man like he'd say this is what you need to do he used to check your fucking loud report cards in those days if you didn't get c so like bees you want to lie in his class so for him for you to keep coming to his class you had to have good report cards that's how deep this guy was so traditional I and I'm not saying they did that in japan two thousand years ago but with his translation of with his translation

of martial arts was help me and if it's helping you as a young man I know one thing though my daughter turns five I'm taking her somewhere where I don't know at least for 90 days until she comes home it says daddy I don't like that but I know she'll get something out of it I know I get you know I know I get little things out of it I know from going to martial arts as a kid five nights a week now I have to go to the gym it's in that same realm you know something I got something out of it the other question is does it work well let's say judo for example if you grab my back at all I need to know is one move listen the beauty about jujitsu is you're a big guy I'm a big guy there's two or three moves that are for us and then what we're gonna do is we're

gonna do that move 10,000 times and we're gonna be that good on that move but joey won't they see it coming ronda rousey arm bars everybody you know that's the thing when you get that good at it even if they know it's coming if john looks at me and goes joey I'm gonna fucking uh americana yeah you know and he just goes for that arm he's he's great he'll keep going for that arm and he'll break it down he'll just keep going for that fucking arm eventually he's gonna get it you know and that's you don't need to do flying arm bar you're never gonna do a flying arm bar it's hysterical Scott Ross who I love dearly is in charge of the white and blue belts at 10th planet follow Scott Ross on facebook every day he posts the warm-ups at 10th planet if a normal person

looks at those warm-ups they won't even go to the fucking gym never mind jujitsu are they hard oh god you know he does quarter guard to the split level to a jumping pass to a full mount and you're like what the fuck is a quarter guard you know and it's hysterical because he turns into a it's just you do I do you and it's just it's this opera of and I just look at the 10th planet warm-up every day and I go whoo thank god I'm not going down there today you know but every system has something whether it's judo jujitsu aikido they have something that's going to work for you are you going to become a UFC fighter with it and kill people with it I don't fucking know but if it keeps your powder dry and it gets you out of a jam once or twice in your life that martial arts worked

you know that martial arts work and it's kind of funny for you where you go you recently found you go to one school but you won't find a new school where their teacher the coach or whatever master is is for he all his moves are for big guys a big and how would you find that like but it's well no everybody told me everybody told me but that's that's a cool thing like they're like okay you're good here but this guy is going to teach you the moves for a big guy yeah so for you to move more efficiently you know John Evans weighs 180 pounds with a rock in his pocket what John Evans could do even if I was John Evans age what John Evans could do with his body I can't do with mine so there's different things for you you know when you go to Cabrinha I bet that the guys that weigh

160 get the most out of Cabrinha maybe I don't know I look at it that way because it's their body type type deal maybe not maybe I could be wrong you know but I mean there's some truth to that like I'll there's there's a reason why he has a lot of top competitors at the lower weight classes because he's one of them as well and his style does have a lot of athleticism involved but he also has a lot of really good bigger guys too so well if a big guy takes his system and adapts and well that's scary if they can if they that's going to be scary yeah that's really because now you got a guy like you that's moving like a guy that's 180 oh wow or you know what I'm saying I'm not saying that you're not 180 I'm just saying that you're moving like a panther so now that's

got to be scary too that's a different avenue to look at also you know it's amazing it's not at the height of its popularity it's and it's not even getting there because there's so many different like look at Burbank how many schools are in Burbank for example gotta be five or six like there's one on every street there's five there's two on Cahuenga there's two jujitsu schools right next to each other down the block from Portos go to Portos and go down the block and make a U turn at the Portos there's two jujitsu schools right next to each other there's a jujitsu school like a juice bar and a jujitsu school the other jujitsu school is mixed with a with a crossfit but they still have the Brazilian flag out there the other one is big he used to be on Lancasham

he's a John Machado black belt okay they used to be on Lancasham mixed with a Hopsquito school for years they were by good year tired that's where he moved I guarantee you got Gracie Baja right you got Alberto Crane who won the UFC you got Eddie Bravo has a school in Burbank yeah Brent Berniston uh Brent Berniston he's my friend yeah subconscious yeah I've been teaching there for the last two weeks yeah is V Matt considered in North Hollywood no yeah yeah it's North Hollywood Burbank has a school with the ultimate Ninja Turtle teaches oh yeah yeah that the yoga power and I heard that's not a bad place right that's not I used to train with him yeah he's not a bad guy or something somebody was out of kettlebell place where I go yeah his son goes

there it's a kid they do yoga there too yes they do yoga combination they mix it together so you know it's different styles for whatever you want you know whatever fits your thing I mean that they used to be an Aikido school where guys who wear skirts with swords wooden swords right on Magnolia right by they burnt down it there's a gym now there's like an Irish gym Newman's gym there's a Taco Bell there oh yeah I'm Magnolia do you know what that is so in the little like shopping yeah shopping center I must have driven by it yeah there used to be one it's it's it's it's fucking amazing it's amazing how many uh jiu-jitsu schools and different prices and different and it's what works for you what you know what hours work for you what nights work for you what

days work for you there's so many different options you know but he's right you don't need you know you don't really need a master black belt you know he's right I never thought about it that way that Phil Jackson those guys were great but it takes a guy maybe there's a guy that's not a great competitor but see something that none of us see and he could coach you to the end you know it's very interesting stuff you know do you ever have guys come in who might not be right for jiu-jitsu on mom and show how that would exist but are there people who jiu-jitsu isn't the choice for or could almost anyone do it well I think that's why I love jiu-jitsu so much I mean you see I mean there's people I've coached that have disabilities there's uh there's people that

that are amputees that are in there or you know isn't there a desk guard guy who does it in a wheelchair Joey I'm not sure I think there is but you know that's crazy yeah it's it's it's for everyone that's one of the great things about it it's not it's not like striking where you know you have to be able to throw like an explosive punch and a lot of them and have crazy movement you know even if you're just out there if all you can do is is just a maybe a half a hip escape and you're tired like well you got a half a hip escape in and then you know maybe a little bit later down the line you'll have a full hip escape and you'll just turn that into something else and it's it's always learning and growing and all body types and people are different ages women

yeah anyone could do it it's it's amazing it's really you know when I went to um I was strapped you know I still struggle I was having a hard time in salami whose uh Renato Magno black belt came to me he says hey I go to Renato Magnos I teach that uh Higgins doing that thing and I had heard from all these guys about Higgins my friend in New Jersey my cousin got a black belt from so I just it was 65 bucks what did I have to lose and I went down and when I was down at Dan in Asanto it was two people away from me he's 70 fucking years old yeah he's a 70 year old purple belt flipping and doing shit I couldn't fucking do so how bad do you think I felt but you just keep going you just keep going and here's the beauty about jujitsu that I that they don't sell you on

whenever you look at somebody's uh you know Facebook or you look at their uh web page they talk about agility they talk about self-confidence they talk about um weight control they talk about you know just all these things but what they really don't sell you on is the camaraderie they really don't sell you on how when you first walk into a jujitsu a guy that's 100 pounds lighter than you will come over to you and say get on top of me let me and you're sweating on him and he's like put your arm here grab me here choke me here you know I'm going to New York next week I'm gonna take you to my house and show you how many emails I've gotten offers from people to come to their gym and train to help me with my fucking knee to help me with my breathing to help me with my

past guard passing do you want me to take it to my house and show you the emails I got last week I'm I'm the beauty and the beast email it's a camaraderie people come to shows now on Thursday they'll give me a card and go listen I have a garage man if you want to come by the mom it's cool you know I could teach you a great hip escape or a great arm bar for a big guy like you it's really amazing the people that have reached out to me I've kickboxed I've gone to Kempo you know I do comedy I'm hungry more people have contacted me to teach me free jujitsu to give me a workout than they have to do anything else and that's what they don't that's why I kept going only because nobody's gonna say to you hey you're a fat fuck or hey you have no strength

there's two things that are for you there there's definitely two moves in jujitsu a half guard that you control them a pass there's something there for you and it's not it's the you know it's the guy that comes up to you when you're sweating he comes up to you and hits you in the back and he goes bro take two breaths and let's do it again and you know I can't I like yes you can't come on get on top me this is how you work on your cardio that's why I keep going only that's why I keep going because nobody's there to kill me you know I don't I'm not gonna die I'm though if they hurt me they hurt me on accident you're gonna get hurt more from misplacing your hand your leg you know nobody's gonna break your arm nobody's gonna throw you on your head they don't get off on that

they want you to come back they don't want it done to them so that's what they don't sell you on in jujitsu you know when you look at the tournaments on TV and you go that's boring how can somebody do something like that once you start going you see the camaraderie you have with these guys now when was the last time somebody let you fucking sweat on them there's women that you're fucking they won't let you fucking sweat on them and here's these guys like come on get on top of me grab my neck all right put your arm under here grab it squeeze your square and they're turning purple and I'm on top of them with 300 fucking pounds I'm like I can't do this no more and they're like please that's how you learn that's what jujitsu is about but I didn't get really nowhere else and

that I really needed in my life I really need that you know when you're not uh athletic enough is everybody else you really need to I don't need somebody to give me a hug but I need somebody to say hey man I watched the hip escape play you did a lot better than what you did last week that's it I mean that's gonna make you come back on Thursday you know and that's what people in this country uh we don't want to do nothing no more we just want to join something and be a black belt or be the top dog and if we can't do that we quit we move on to the next day there's a taekwondo school on Wilshire close to Cabrinha that they sell you the package they sell you the 15-dollar package to become a black belt are you serious and you pay for the whole black belt series up front

it's on 50 something Wilshire there whatever he's been there for 30 years does he make them earn it or he just hasn't prepaid a black belt so you come down you join today and he'll go look at let's cut this shit you can pay me 100 a month do me a favor go get me $8,000 and that'll get you accelerated black belt program that gets you for three years give me three thousand a year I mean it's fucking ridiculous I don't go for my black belt I don't go to choke nobody out I don't go to play a UFC fighter I just go to try to stay healthy and breathe you know and that's the beauty of it you know the first time I met John Evan I went to his school with jeans on I just went to see what the afternoon class was about and John's like roll up your pants get out there I was like are you

fucking crazy but that's how open he was to it he'll come over and work with you and work on the guard with you and whatever you know it was just very different it really I needed it at this time and like I said with comedy you have I'm a professional comedian man 98% of my conversations steer the comedy they always end up movie tv a podcast something so when I go there it's my hour it's my hour not to think of fucking comedy I'm just a fat guy in the corner getting fucking an arm bar to death you know what made you come up with the BJJ breakdown um you know I just was doing commentary on videos and I started because I was injured um which you know when you really try to compete a lot or try to be at a high level of the sport injuries can happen and I had an

issue with my back for a long time for years and I just kept getting injured and I didn't want to waste my downtime right like I was not able to train but I wanted to watch video but I figured if I'm watching video you know I know what's going on because I've been training long enough but I remember I'd been training for like maybe two or three years and I watched some high level competition and I didn't know anything that was happening like I had no idea what they were doing it was some black belt finals of the worlds and I couldn't tell you what guard pass they were trying what guard that they were doing which is also kind of what makes it a hard spectator sport it's so it's so technical that sometimes it can be tough to watch without context so I figured well maybe

I'll start commentating and trying to like give a little more insight into it so that way the casual observer could see what's going on and maybe appreciate it a little bit more because if you don't it just looks like a couple of guys in pajamas just hugging each other you know so it can get a little boring so but with the context it's it's actually really exciting it's also because it's so technical even though it's a bad spectator sport because of that it also makes it a great sport to participate in because you'll never learn all there is to know and that's exciting because as soon as you start to really like master something you're at the very very pinnacle then it gets boring for me at least you know there's always something to learn

now when I was a kid I'd go to Central Park or Hudson County Park and I would be a circle around these two guys and they'd be playing chess okay nothing's as boring as watching two guys playing chess nothing's as boring as watching a golf match on tv if you go to play golf it could be okay whatever you do you smoke pot you drink beers you're getting sun you got your spf number two on you hit the ball whatever the f*** why is jujitsu how can how would a network make jujitsu feasible to watch like uh dr. krandall who's gonna call in a couple minutes dr. joe krandall went to a sumo competition this week and he said he was very interesting down in Long Beach that he watched close to I don't know how many matches 200 matches in two hours because they're f***ing lightning

quick you know the only thing and granted like I said before I don't know anything about jujitsu but just from a pure a sports fans point of view the only thing I didn't like about the last metamorphosis was weren't like five out of six matches uh ties or like a lot a big percentage worse and it's kind of like why people don't like soccer in America it's nice to have a winner and like I don't know if it'd be points or what it would be but it's just it was it was kind of uh I know I know they were happy how well they did but as a fan they're like oh you want somebody to win well metamorphosis submission only correct or is there points I forget it was supposed to be submission only but uh and I think the first one was truly submission only but that's that's kind

of one of the big conundrums in sport jujitsu for a spectator because pure jujitsu I mean if you one way to look at it is that jujitsu was made to be used in self-defense and in a fighting situation and uh a good way to think about it is trying to because uh in a jujitsu match it can go it's just a grappling match right you can go until submission but then if you put no time limit on it it could be four hours long for one match has it really happened four hours there's been some pretty long matches I mean there's definitely some matches recently that have been submission only no time limit that were well over an hour come on yeah oh yeah I mean yeah in the states no absolutely even at like um I think there was one at the dream tournament which is a fantastic

tournament by the way um they ran one I think it was a brown belt but it might have been purple and two of the guys went for like an hour and a half or something like that for one match and that just is not spectator friendly I don't want to watch an hour and a half of how's that even physically possible because I wrestled not well but I wrestled five five minute round it's fucking killer how do you do an hour it's killer well see because there's points in wrestling though so and there usually isn't jujitsu but if it's a no time limit submission only then nothing matters except for the submission so if you rest and you let the guy just trounce you positionally like they're running all over you they're getting mount they're nearly locking up

submissions but you find your way out of them maybe you didn't use very much energy and they still at the very end of it have nothing so you can conserve a lot of your energy and wait until they're tired and then attack them or if you're just going at a pretty decent pace if you're two good athletes and just very stubborn then you know it can go a long time just like a tennis match remember that one that was that happened I think maybe like a couple of years ago and those guys ended up going and they had to like continue it the next day yeah yeah I remember that no one because you have to get over two like I'm not great with tennis two sets yeah all right like over the the next guy to call it an official win so they went up to where it was you know match

point or whatever and then you have to you can't just beat them with one one score over the other person has to be like an extra two or something like that just to make sure you're the definitive winner and one guy would score and then the other guy would score oh no you're talking about uh the thing at the end like when goes the advantage yes right and what does that call but they just kept going forever and it was I mean that match ended up being hours and hours and they had to do it on the next day to finish the second half of it I mean it was crazy so if you get two stubborn guys and tennis I don't know if you've ever played tennis I've played it a couple of times you're running around a lot it's a very physical sport to think about doing that for hours is rough so

I mean I have to wake up and do it again the next fucking day I know right where you left off the night before that's gotta be goddamn night man and that wasn't for the finals I don't think that was just to see who goes on so then you're depleting yourself like crazy just so you can go face someone else it's just so it would have to be to make you get too feasible that means it would have to be points and all the time limit or maybe like maybe a 10 minute and then over time might be over time three minute over time if we need it well see that's the thing no one has figured out how to make it make it truly exciting but also watchable right uh and and in a timely manner because submission only no time limit is kind of the only way to make it

pure jiu-jitsu if you just wanted to make it pure jiu-jitsu because then it's only submission it can only end by submission or somebody just gives up they're I'm too tired I just tap out right so that's all fine and dandy but then it's not you know if you're looking at it in the context of a fight if you get mount on somebody you know like if you look at Meta Morris where Andre Galvo fought um uh what's his name here on Gracie and here on let him basically just run all over him get dominant positions mount and everything and tire himself out and then at the end he started to push back when Andre was tired and that one of course only went to 20 minutes or something it started putting in a time limit on it um and it ended in a tie because it went to the

time but I mean you can't say that that I don't know he at the end he said like this is you know this was the real jiu-jitsu but uh because they always quote like what Helio Gracie one of the inventors would have wanted to see in jiu-jitsu I'm not so sure because he was a big uh proponent of self-defense if it would have been his wishes to see someone get mounted over and over again where in like an MMA situation you're getting punched in the face uh like that is not maybe the best way to do jiu-jitsu so you've got this kind of give and take with that I don't know. Has UFC ever because like you say you're not as much of a fan anymore right now you're not that interested there's some fights that aren't as exciting what if like two at two points in the UFC fight there

was like just a jiu-jitsu match with like the top level people that nobody knows about like you would think they'd want to branch out it's and show like how this is jiu-jitsu like the next we have a wrestling match like you think that would make it more interesting they wouldn't have to have all these bad fights. Yeah I mean they they I mean do you have to look at look at it from their perspective as a company they're going to just want to do whatever's easiest that gives them money and if jiu-jitsu as a sport is not um as doesn't have the fan base doesn't have the rules figured out quite yet you know they're not going to really get behind that because it's a lot of work and from like a business standpoint why put in all this work for maybe you get your losses back

maybe not but you're eating into you could be doing something more productive so I understand it from that standpoint but somebody needs to come along and develop it I mean with my commentary that's what I try to do at least just so people understand what's going on but as far as a tournament goes it's like I did a tournament at my house for money just randomly like I wanted it's something that I'm going to start doing more often because I'm trying to open up my own gym right now so once that happens I will be live streaming tournaments from my gym and I will try to figure out the ruleset better but for my ruleset I just made it no time limit submission only just because it would be easier and I hate anytime it comes down to so no time limit yes no time and what a couple of

the matches win about 30 minutes so hold on we got dr joel come in here what's up buddy hey joel it's joel how are you doc I got mike good you I got uh mike john evans here with us hey what's up in hey john and I got all right sciat the flying juo how are you doc good thank you very much for taking the time and calm you know I wanted to introduce you to our listeners and whatnot and let them know what you got and I got a question for you doc I want you to explain yourself sure what is an exercise psychologist break it down make a science physiologist physiologist I'm sorry yeah we basically we studied human movement and uh you know just try to get the body to move more efficiently in which can you describe like in what manner to me doc I mean

well what I what I do joel is I look at the structure and I also balance that out with uh the aspect of what's going to happen emotionally with the brain and uh try to think up all the diaphragm so the body can be strong and and just work efficiently so that's kind of what I do is I look at the different structures of the body and see how they're making or having possible dysfunctions in the body that are making the body more difficult to move than it should be that's what it's all right because we didn't know what was going on here we looked it up and tried to read and I want to break it down you know every time I've gone to see you doc I've always had great results uh whether you're a great patient and you know as you know we always do something different

as well right it depends on what the client is going to present no and I've been doing the homework he gave me and uh it's funny I got on the epileptical my breathing is great now I work on the breathing I I got the tape that uh you know I tape my mouth at night now when I sleep so I can breathe and uh it's helped me I had to go through a couple different tapes because I kept ripping it off or drooling on it like a savage but I finally found this but uh all the results that I've gotten from what you give me have always been great and I just want to let people know what you did uh you know exactly even with my knee when I went to see that they did a couple movements with you the next day my knee swelling went down by half half it went down I mean yeah we didn't do uh

that much yeah I work as you know uh you know I work a lot with the breathing because if you're not breathing efficiently you're not moving efficiently because most people will hold their breath when they move so that's a common denominator that a lot of people miss is the breathing so you must be able to breathe yeah it was my problem I still hold my breath for everything and I and I I try to do it now I want to ask you something doc real quick because with the exercise you gave me I breathe in through my nose and breathe out through my nose in jujitsu a lot of things they always say you breathe in through your nose but exhaust through your mouth what are we doing differently a lot of people uh you know Americans have basically come up with that your

thing is basically just dig through their nose more usually much more than we do when you exhale through your mouth you're releasing all that pressure that the body needs uh and you're changing your pH levels in your blood you're changing the CO2 levels that your body needs to push the oxygen off of the red blood cells so the oxygen can get kicked off of those red blood cells and into those cells and tissues where it's where it's needed it also helps it cross the blood brain barrier so you get more oxygen into your brain and when you exhale through your mouth you lose all those benefits oh okay so that's why you have me putting the tape on at night and whatnot correct on my mouth that was why because I was confused especially when I went out that day you came into watching

through the hip escapes I didn't know if you wanted me keep breathing in out of my nose I didn't know so now that breaks it down but it's been working whatever I like the results I got from you that's why I wanted to get you on here and explain what uh you know what you do even my wrist pain is gone I know John Evan went to see you for his back at one time and yeah and now how do you guys know each other I dream that through Errington Zollars at Fitnecks who's also uh he was I think 2009 Brazilian blue belt world champion oh well yeah he's really good Evan I've actually he started watching me compete um and he saw me at some random tournament and came up to me I think he was a white belt and said that he was a fan of mine which was I thought was hilarious because I was

I think a blue belt or a purple belt or something at the time uh and then I end up training with him at Cabrinha's and he's got super good himself and it's just like well I'm a fan of his now as well and then fortunately got to meet Joel through him and uh yeah I mean Joel diagnosed some things with me that no one seemed to be able to pinpoint so it was pretty cool and you work with just athletes doc or anybody in particular I work with anybody from four to 104 years old find out the limit myself on what we can what we can work with and what is your specialty specialty like if somebody was looking you up what would they really uh be looking for you for like well I what I'm doing creating my own little style of body work right now and I call it voila and it's you know like I

mentioned earlier we're looking at the structure of the body and how it affects movement and I also do this uh wonderful technique called restorative breathing uh and that is just an amazing stuff working with my mentor there lowest lane out of phoenix and uh so she taught me probably more about movement than any movement especially south and that has actually changed my life because I was concussed many times as a as a child uh and also you know playing a collegiate football and uh the restorative breathing technique which really helped me get my brain back functioning again so I can think so I can create this uh body work that I'm doing now it's funny because when I do like the uh elliptical I always say rolling the epileptical and I do you

I always say the epileptical I don't know why and I have to really work on the elliptical but it's really crazy uh whenever the last month and a half I've been working with you and I do do the breathing exercises when I'm doing the elliptical it seems really hard at first but once I open up I like the eight minute mark I'm good to go but not only that it feels like when I'm breathing that my whole body's getting fueled it's really hard to describe I can feel the energy in my legs like sometimes when you're doing the epileptical for example you just feel your arms but when I do the breathing that you've worked with me on I can actually feel the energy lifting from my uh heels up to my cat you know I'm saying like I could I'm describing that exercise

because that's where I've I've noticed the most improvement on my breathing yeah that's because your body's being oxygenated so now that blood can get to your extremity and that oxygen can get pumped into those extremities so you can feel it better so it's sort of like a yoga type breathing um no it's a little different than that it's all nasal breathing with the tongue on the roof of the mouth and the mouth is uh the teeth never touch and why is that important they breathe through the mouth so that's why we say it's not going to breathe and why is it so important to have the tongue on the roof because I work on that also when I do the uh the 30 seconds of kicking the tongue on the roof of a mouth is huge no matter

if I'm talking with that with a client today and I was explaining the importance of the uh tongue on the roof of the mouth and the beauty of the of the tongue is actually the first thing that was ever formed on us as humans while we're in the womb and when the tongue is on the roof of the mouth your body produces oxytocin and dopamine which are two great drugs that make you feel happy it also pumps your sinuses Joey I haven't had an allergy attack in 14 months and I used to get done three times a year and it's all due to the breathing good but having the tongue up is able to pump my sinuses the other thing it does is it uh balances out the nitric oxide the CO2 and the oxygen levels in your body so your body is healthier inside

the most other most important thing it does when your tongue is on the roof of your mouth it stabilizes your head neck and your entire spine so should you have on there when you're rolling oh my god you go that's the true core I said yes yes it is the tongue is the true core so should you have your tongue on the top of your mouth when you're rolling also you try wow yeah that's just amazing die yeah well yeah I took his class the other day it's an awesome class everybody should get there because he's such a great teacher and he's so positive and you know he keeps keeps it going but I'm sure my tongue was on the roof of my mouth because I was so

tired did it help though oh yeah yeah I'll have to start start working on that I used to hold my breath and turn it you know John you know with my head and neck injuries you know I gotta really make sure yes that my neck stays stable that's the one way I can do it in the class oh nice so by putting your tongue on the top of your the roof of your mouth I'm sorry you say it like that you see you learn something new every day people so it stabilizes that's I didn't know why you made me it was your entire spine hey doc you know I'm old school you tell me what to do I do it I don't ask and I had to ask tonight I had to ask because I had John so I wanted to ask why the tongue on the top because I've been doing that especially when I do the the 30 second drill you know with the

with the heart monitor and all that and yeah dad was like yeah why does he have me have my tongue up there all the time when I'm and sometimes I forget to do it and I start all over again because uh you know you just told me so no I'm getting great results doc I wish that more people would go see you know in this day and age we get more and more people popping up with uh different forms of uh you know training or uh strength and conditioning everybody has different exercises and I love it doc I love it that people are thinking outside the box even with healthcare you know uh we're living in a country right now where the healthcare system is fucked it's fucked I mean in more ways than one they milk you to debt the insurance companies I just had

surgery and I can't believe all the the paperwork and the bureaucracy and sometimes all the stuff you go to you're not even getting healed you're not even with traditional medicine you know so I like thinking outside the box that's why I go to acupuncture that's why I come to see you you know because I don't think a doctor could fit you you know those things they learned was 10 000 years ago shit's changing daily and uh no it's just amazing it's just really amazing what's going on whether it's jiu-jitsu whether it's with kinesiology or with you know what you're doing the exercise I mean it's just great with the breathing the rest of rate of breathing who knew about this 10 years ago and it's even how my sleep at me I think that the taping my mouth at

night has helped me a little bit with the sleep at me believe it or not so uh I think that if somebody has sleep at me or having problems with their breathing and they live locally in the california area they should try to look you up I mean we have your webpage what's your webpage what is it there it's uh it's physiocarescenter.com it's p-h-y-s-i-o-carescenter.com doctor it was a pleasure and I will give you so much for having me on and then John best of luck to you and I look forward to seeing you in class soon oh are you coming to class this week Tuesday I should hope to make it there I think on Thursday okay well I won't see you Thursday but I'll see you next week for sure doctor right all right fellas you have a great night thank you very

much for calling in my brother you got it Joey bye bye see I don't ask but I gotta ask no I thought that was funny when he said that you know some people listen there's what happens and it happens jujitsu it happens with doctors it happens with anything you know uh I'll come in to see you for something I ask you for your advice you give me your advice you give me a consultation if I don't ask you why you did that then I won't know because you're gonna tell me why you made me do that and on the way home I'm gonna think of the reasons why well well maybe I can't do that or whatever maybe there's an excuse if I don't ask why I have to do that I just do it there's an old saying yours is not to wonder what yours is just to do or die shut the fuck up and do what the fuck you

gotta do you know but it's really weird how somebody will say well I can't do that because my knee try it that way just fucking try it if you can't do it then we'll do it your way but a lot of people just shut off that well that's not gonna work for me they're right away to dismiss it I don't dismiss anything I gotta give it a shot yeah you know maybe I'm telling you something to do and I don't have the time to tell you why to do it I'm just telling you because I fucking know and one day you'll come to me and go oh I figured out why you told me to fucking do that yeah right John Evan what's wrong guy that's right it's Monday a little Tony better a little Tony better for your people on a beautiful Monday morning with John Evan and my name man

Lisa yeah I want to be around you gotta get Tony better to call he's too busy he has too many bitches when somebody breaks your heart lose your shape you'll be fine I'm pretty high either pot cookie or chocolate chip he has a brownie that he brings in every day there's a new chef this one tastes good they're all gonna make me go crazy every day it's a new chef I swear but they taste good they do the tricks look at you you hammered yeah what's next for my main man John Evan talk to me god damn it talk to me John Evan what the fuck it's a Sunday night here I got no stories nobody's throwing heat at me least fucked up yeah how you guys gonna start a whole new week I'll tell you something that happened to me last week John Evan

I had to do a story teller show for Comedy Central and it was the I'm danger they gave me like categories and they told me danger or friendship and all this and I wrote this story and I had it was getting taped for Comedy Central John Evan at 10 o'clock at night I had already submitted the story and at five o'clock I'm sitting on my couch with ice on my knee thinking I can't tell that fucking story that story sucks it's not gonna fucking work you know and I'm like what story am I gonna tell and about two months ago I was on the podcast with Lee and I told the story that I never told before on the podcast about that after I got locked up for a while after I got out and stuff years later I was getting my life together and I did one last fucking dirty crime

and it was like the worst day of my life like I fucking hated it like I kept thinking I wasn't gonna get caught and all this for nothing and what happened was I had a friend I was in New York and I was just don't want to pay child support I was behind the April on the child support and I was just behind the April sometimes you think you're behind the April and you go looking you're like eight nine thousand dollars down I owed rent money I owed child support money I just wasn't making enough money and I was making great money I was making like three four thousand a month selling cars and Manhattan and I was paying no rent my rent was like two hundred dollars a month but I just couldn't get over that hump you know and I was doing stupid

shit I was picking up coke for people in New York and stupid stuff like that my buddy came to me because I got this cop who uh works at the DEA and he's got a DEA jacket and all this kind of shit we're gonna rob a drug dealer but we're gonna watch him first they already know all we have to do is go in there did I tell you about this no so I said fuck you know and I had never done nothing like this before in my life this is after you got out of prison this is like when I'm living in Jersey with George in 93 George didn't even know about it nobody really knew about I never said I didn't know about and I just was in this hole and I go there's only one way I'm gonna get myself out there's either gambling or I'm gonna have to kill somebody with a lot of money

I gotta do something so I was on a roll I put this bed in I bet the Jets against the Philadelphia Eagles and Randall Cunningham got hurt during the game and the Jets won and I won all of this fucking dough like two grand I'm lucky I won a parlay so I was halfway in the battle now I had to get a plane ticket to go back to Colorado see my daughter this is 94 I'm like if I go back there I don't have enough money to get a gifts and the hotel and all this shit and my buddy came to me goes listen we could rob this guy you never know you might make $30,000 you might make $10,000 I had nothing to lose so I go what do I gotta do he goes all right listen just you and me we're gonna kick down the fucking door I'm gonna make sure they all get on the floor and then we're gonna take

that coke and run that's it the guy's always got like four keys in there simple he goes you're gonna have a weapon I'm gonna have a weapon we'll have another extra weapon when I get to the guys house that day he's got a bulletproof fucking vest and I'm like what the fuck you know like once I seen a bulletproof vest I was like wait a second this is supposed to be a walk in the park why do you have a bulletproof fucking vest on and you know why he's like wow you never know the guy was an asshole but he was my friend I like them so he goes uh we don't go over there we drive over and I'm the whole way I'm thinking how am I gonna do this that plan is terrible I know please please I've never done arm robbery before I don't know about arm robbery it's not like you're on

YouTube and type arm robbery and and I tell you how to do an arm robbery of a drug dealer so when I was locked up there was this black guy and his name was ecchi and he would always come in to the window I would always see him I was the stock clerk in the kitchen and he always had this thing he would kick the door in and he'd go freeze put your fucking hands up and everybody would go ecchi knock it the fuck off because he was that good he got everybody's attention he's scared the fuck out of you he would just go freeze and he would put his hands like he had a gun and he didn't have no gun everybody would look at him go ecchi cut the shit out the fuck is wrong with you're scared half the people you know so I'm like I'll just play ecchi I'll just do what ecchi did

and he kicked the door and I remember running in that was sitting there like watching tv and I just held the gun I had tears in my eyes I did everything I could not to cry and have nervous breakdown you have no idea guys how scary that is and he's like I know there's drugs here everybody get down he started tying them up and shit and I'm just sitting there with this gun just holding it like with this loaded gun a 38 that was disgusting I thought it was in the game like an automatic weapon they gave me like a semi-automatic 38 or 32 whatever the fuck they are and it took like four minutes but it felt like I was in there for four fucking hours it was horrible you know I went in I said freeze I didn't know what to do after that that was all

he ever said he never said no other lines after freeze he would just go freeze and he would just stand there and I just stood there and my friend grabbed it up and he said let's get out of here and we ran out and that was it the people didn't chase us or fucking nothing I think I got like 16 grand something like that but that was it I was gonna tell that fucking story at the Comedy Central thing thank god I didn't have to oh my god I did an arm robbery it did not know what I was doing I improvised during an arm robbery do you understand I just didn't really notice something and I figured something out what and I'm I don't want to offend you I love you but you're a pretty bad criminal like the last the last two years why did I got into comedy because I was good at

dancing to the singing dance I got into fucking comedy because it was my last resort guy okay it was the last thing on the Joey Diaz bandwagon you know like a good start to your career with like the jewelers and stuff like the later on the plans didn't go so well you know after all I didn't want to be a fucking criminal no more so things just started popping up it wasn't like I had a choice to fucking orchestrate them you know I didn't want to be a criminal all my life I didn't want that fucking thing for me but that's just a crazy story that the only reason I got what I think of the shot what if one of those young kids had a gun they would have shot us oh what if what if we're still in probation no no I was off every thank god I was just on fucking stupidity

pills that day and I think about that and I think that you know you think about your life you think all the times you could have got like just things that could have happened that's why you know whenever my two feet hit the floor we fucking morning I rubbed my head I go to god or whatever the fuck you are thanks for giving me another fucking day because you have no idea you have no fucking idea how dumb of a criminal I was I'm a dummy doesn't take much to you know you know we could crack some jokes and we could write some jokes and maybe I could write something but I don't know nothing about nothing I just got away with murder all my fucking I don't know nothing about nothing but don't you remember your book or your next book I got a little common sense I don't know

nothing about nothing no like John Evan he knows about shit John Evan John Evan you never told us how you got to tell least just so he knows that yeah um I mean I was not an athletic kid at all like in high school I I ran I remember they because I uh I just stood out of high school early but for the year that I was there where they could lock me down to do some PE I remember they forced me to do the mile and and take my time and it was like 12 minutes and something which is like you can walk the mile in 12 minutes and something so it was not an athletic kid I was a really poor athlete um never wanted to be athletic or do anything like that uh and you know but just say as I got older I decided I'm gonna get a motorcycle I thought that was uh just the smartest

thing to do and um so I got a sport bike and honestly loved it a lot of good things about sport bikes but uh eventually ended up crashing it and um had a bad a really bad accident and tore my diaphragm I got a concussion and I broke my tailbone but I tore my diaphragm but because that's kind of a hard thing to see uh I think they have to do like a CT scan or something um they did an MRI a job a hard time breathing an x-ray not initially because it was just a very small tear and that can just happen it's it could be a genetic thing it could be when I looked it up at the time uh years ago they said like one percent of all automobile accidents result in a torn diaphragm which seems very high to me but uh because I'd never heard

of it but they didn't see it because they just treated me for my broken tailbone and my concussion my head was hurt really bad um and I was okay in like two three months I was fine but that torn diaphragm kept going and then three years later uh it tore the rest of the way and my stomach went into my chest cavity and collapsed my lungs oh my god and just out of nowhere too I thought maybe like a month beforehand I'd broken a rib or something because it was hard to lift weights I was just trying to do some like bodybuilding type workouts or whatever and I just stopped doing that because it hurt too bad they did an x-ray they didn't find anything and then uh you know I ended up in the hospital in the emergency room and I at the time I had long hair

right before I was in there and I was in like a metal band and I ended up shaving it all off except for I'm like well I'm gonna shave it off I might as well leave a mohawk right so I left a mohawk but it was like 2004 or something like that um you know pretty like a fairly progressive time uh but for whatever reason me with that mohawk they just thought that I was just some punk kid and I mean I was in my 20s you know like they just didn't believe anything that I was saying they thought I was faking it so they kept me in the ER because they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me that's why they they thought I was just joking uh but they'd give me morphine but I couldn't even lay flat I had to sit up kind of like in a seated up fetal position

and just horrible pain the worst pain I've ever felt in my life for two days they they kept me there trying to figure it out but kind of like half ass like they didn't really care um but then finally the the gastroenterologist uh they're like well we need to get him in so we can see if there's a problem and he's like uh he's fine he's just dramatic and they were gonna release me but it's like maybe we'll fit you in and he put me in last on the day I remember that because I'm watching the seconds count down because it hurts so bad and they finally took me in and they shoved a camera down my throat and uh immediately like well I guess I woke up during it and I ripped it out and started trying to fight them but I was completely out of it I have no recollection of that

but uh as soon as they got me out of there they saw immediately in my stomach was they thought they were gonna have to remove part of it and uh they had some guy from San Diego that was a surgeon they flew him up here in like 45 minutes and had me on the operating table like right then it was a it was a very life-threatening thing um and then afterwards it was uh I was I was fine but they were joking because it took about a week in uh I mean I was in ICU for like three or four days and then I was in the in the hospital just for a week recovering they said well you know he he may never be an athlete or anything again at a high level and I don't even know if that was serious at the time but I was young and I had no aspirations to do to do anything like that but at

the time I was like damned if you can tell me what I can and can't do so I I had always watched UFC and I saw hoist Gracie you know he's a tiny guy he weighs about what I weigh now but a little bit taller he's skinnier um and he was just beating these really huge muscle-bound people in the UFC and I was like wow if if I could learn something like that that's technical like oh that would be awesome so I said if I can recover in one year because it took me about that long to do a sit-up because they cut all my stomach um then I'll join jujitsu and so that was nine years ago and I've been training about eight years so that's how I started jujitsu that's fucking amazing yeah it was silly maybe you're fucking do it you can be throwing sidekicks for Jesus by next year I

thought sidekicks for Jesus but I know you do I know you do well uh a kind of a weird question Joey and I talk about sometimes about how in comedy there's no one to really tell you like yeah your headline now it's kind of you have to do it for yourself how how weird was it to like make the decision that you could be a teacher because like you like how do you know when you're ready or like that sort of stuff that must be kind of a weird thing to go through yeah teachings teachings is unusual because not everyone's a good teacher you know good competitors frequently are not good teachers like we were talking about earlier and you know if you're a really good at jujitsu and really good maybe at competing you really only have to know a couple of moves that

you do very very well just like what Joey was saying you only have to learn this one or two things for your body type and if you do them really well even if they know it's coming they can't stop it so you know like a lot of competitors especially at a lower level they don't maybe know all the aspects of the game but as a teacher you really have to know a lot of different stuff and know how to do it well and how to explain it well and I've always just like the technical kind of nerdy analytical part of jujitsu so I try to learn everything but I think I was just training under Sean Williams who's a fantastic professor he's a five star jujitsu and I think he had to leave town and it was emergency and there was no one to fill in and he was opening up

a new school and so he had me teach the class because I was just the highest ranking the most knowledgeable there so I did that and then maybe a couple of times he you know he felt comfortable with it I guess people said that I did an okay job and just from there you just start doing it so it's just kind of forced on me really because it's really hard to say like I'm ready to teach now you know like I didn't feel like I was ready at the time I'm just like well I'll just try to show some of the stuff that I know I do fairly well that pretty much is just regurgitated from what I've been taught and that's just kind of how it starts and then you learn a lot when you teach though so it's it's a good I think it's a really good thing to teach because I've learned so much

just some things that you take for granted and like Joey will say like how do you do this thing and like well that's it's obvious and then I'll start explaining it to him and be like oh I just never even looked in depth at that thing before and now I understand it much better myself so you learn a lot of stuff like that from teaching that you just wouldn't even think about which is I think is great but yeah you're very good at it and you're very patient and you it's it's I've had really good martial art teachers and really bad ones and I had gung-ho ones you know that it's just great you know it's I couldn't imagine a life without martial art tonight and I never took it to be a tough guy you know I always took it to just something it was just

something that just seemed cool for me you know I didn't really like judo that much I really didn't really like the aikido's I like the karate's like the kung fu's I like getting punched in the head I like going I think the best times I ever had if I got to tell you as a kid were playing billy basketball and hanging out with my karate friends and going to tournaments on the weekends on saturdays and dog I went to when I was a kid I probably competed in 50 tournaments and I probably had maybe eight trophies I wasn't good at that shit I wasn't good at it I was good at forms you know I would always if I felt behind on sparring on the fights because they were always semi-contact from your neck to your waist so if I always fell behind I didn't know this at 10 and 11

you don't know this because you're a fucking moron but as you get older if I would fall behind on points I get frustrated and I throw higher kicks not to hurt you but I would just get frustrated and I was good at the higher kicks so I would kick you in the ear and I get disqualified you know I wouldn't go to hit you I would never kick you all right or something you know but these are things you learn later on you know I didn't know about but those are my best times in my life leave forget the partying forget the fucking chicks that suck your dick and eat your ass and all that that's all you don't have to forget about them well no you know you're right you're right you're right uh it's just funny how I like that and I couldn't name all the stupidity all the stories

I tell you and everything Lee I could probably name one of those kids I remember a kid Glenn Cologne that was a prodigy type kid when he was like 13 he was a black belt and four different things and people would contact him and make them come to his school like call you and say John do me a favor and you come to my school I really like to have you in the style it was just amazing to see this kid he didn't do drugs he was very quiet you went to his house John his mother he had a single mom and uh they probably had a room and a half of five foot nova trophies when this kid was 13 it was something that I never saw before you walking was you haven't been to Lee's house yeah I know you walked in his house and you had a you know walk against the wall like everything was

just trophies because he had done it since he was five you know and I remember two or three kids their names maybe two supito this kid supito because when you were super you know when you're a landlord you were super his father was the super of the building so his name was supito so we called him supito because he was the little super and he had you know we he let us train in his basement I remember this kid Mario Diaz when I was older later on when I was in high school he was a Chinese Cuban kid and at night so this was the deal you went home you went you trained at your school then you went home you ate dinner you did your homework and then you all everybody lied to that mother we got to go to Mario's house and do a science project you threw your gi out the window

and then you walked out of house you grabbed your gi and you went to Mario's house Mario had a basement maybe two of these rooms every fucking six inches there was a hole in the wall and his father wouldn't know it like we put posters over it we fought down there until the end like we go from nine to eleven thirty this is after karate just like six hours of school fight clubs with the pads on the fucking arm things we had the heads a mouthpiece and we just kill each other the good thing was like let's say John Edmond was uh a fuja a paikung fu guy and I was a gush and ru guy and you were uh uh something else guy and we would teach each other different things so that was pretty neat that was but I got honest to God and when I go to when I go to your class John on Tuesday I had

a great time I have a great time at those two classes and the only reason when I go to Higgins on Monday Wednesdays because sometimes I have acupuncture or I have an audition auditions are usually Tuesdays and Mondays because you have to shoot the rest of the week the table read is on Wednesday for the next week so my busiest days are always Monday or Tuesday after that the week fucking dies for me you know after Wednesday I got shit unless I have comedy I sit there for two fucking days you know I always make the Thursday class but those are the highlights of my week I try to make those because I fly on Wednesdays or Thursdays but it's changed me a lot man it helped me with my comedy it helped me with uh just even this breathing thing I have when I first started

going to just John I was always paranoid the only classes I go to were yours because I trusted you you know I would go to John's classes because I tried there was a smaller class and if I had a heart attack John could save me faster I always stay close to John's he could but no that's that's that's basically it man you're a great teacher John thank you you know I know you're a purple belt with a bunch of fucking stripes you're gonna be a brown belt soon but it's amazing that uh you learn from people you don't even have to you know that's a great point you make you don't need to go to these world champions you know jujitsu is very I mean it's all from fucking I mean they teach the same shit every school with just different variations you know and

well isn't it a lot of like when I was at the the taping the other day I was walking up by the line for like the next show to come in and I just saw two people discussing moves so like it's not it sounds like it's like not even like your teachers anymore like you'll just talk to people and like you'll teach each other so do you don't even need like you don't even need like a master or something like its teams well no you have training but you have training partners sure yeah you know John will say to me oh I thought of uh John taught me something that I use all the time now and I'm not good at it but I'm gonna keep using it because it's very energy efficient for me it was a a move that he saw a brown belt when a contest with uh you know an arm what not an arm

drag oh the sleeve drag the sleeve drag from the closed guard it works for me I'm a bigger guy it's a fluid movement you know so he could tell me it on the phone he'll call me and say hey man I got this movie I want to teach you John has sent me emails I still have it the light just late this oh yeah that's my favorite that's my favorite fucking sweep so now you want to open up something yeah that's what I'm trying to do um it's I'm just trying to get my own gym going and like I said I've got big plans for it I want to do tournaments and all that stuff but I've got a bunch of students right now that really are kind of just waiting on me I'm waiting I love it I love for you to you know I know that your school's going to be small at first you know so you have to grow

when I did the whatever thing I only did for 90 days because I knew by then you'd get going you know up here I have the other thing to begin a class to group on also so I just I'm just waiting for you to come up here and get what's your vision for your school what do you want out of your we all want something out of I mean I just want a place where people can train pretty much all hours of the day that'd be nice like a Cabrinha does that he it's just kind of an open format you can come in and drill even if it's not a class designated time and he's there pretty much all the time and you know you can even if it's tough people commute so you can bring food you can take a nap on the couch and the mats or whatever if you want and you can just train so you can make it fit your

schedule because not a lot of people have time that is just just fits perfectly in with what maybe the school that they're attending runs classes at so it's just nice to be able to offer that variety so maybe maybe if you only can train like for three hours in this one chunk two days a week all right but you normally would like to train like six days a week then at least you have the ability you could maybe take a class for two hours and then still drill for an hour afterwards or whatever something like that I think is is just a great thing to have just because you know I love the sport you love the sport and if you can if you can spend as much time as you can work into your life to spend then that's that's always a cool thing for Jim to have so you know it's amazing

I like feedback like I said I just don't have a a Monday Wednesday morning class or day class and I had a problem I you know I always have this one problem now I get up early you know last night went to bed at two but I was walking around at seven o'clock I couldn't fucking believe it this morning I was walking around at seven o'clock my lord you gotta you can't keep doing this I didn't take a nap all day or anything you know I went to eat my wife but I don't even know what the fuck I was gonna say now it's amazing how I don't I can't train at night I'll do it if you put a gun to my head but I'm not gonna give you the best results and I asked John when they go John I have a hard time training after eight and he goes my girlfriend has the same problem she has to do it early in

the morning that's when your breathing is up your focus is up more something just doesn't click at night something just does not click from the hip escapes to when I'm running around the gym it just didn't do it for me the daytime I think I pay more attention so for me the days work better you know well learning any martial art takes a lot of like brain power and after a full day of work I mean you're almost I don't know how you could absorb it that's that's why I like the work days over no but it wasn't even that as much as my cardio okay so like physically yeah physically mentally I'm fried yeah yeah that's part of it like by six o'clock I've heard every fucking mind fucking the world and auditions and this and that and you're like you know what I have something else on my mind

or whatever you know you have that one I don't know it's just me and late nights just don't work and for years I did it at the water lived in Hollywood if I didn't have a spot I'd go swim or something or hit the bag you know not anymore now it's just basically I like my shit the daytime so I don't know what it was so everybody's different that's you know I when I when I was 400 pounds before the character Joey Karate came about when I was like 375 I joined tanks who though I joined um Taekwondo it's a Subak though it's it's it was Chuck Norris's style before he went to tanks who though and just kept the tanks who though this is a Subak though it's not bad it's Taekwondo guys it's but the teacher there was a really sharp guy his name was Kevin Najir Najir is his last name

in fact he was doing so bad on the Taekwondo end of it this is why I respect Najir he was doing so bad on the Taekwondo end of it he was he belonged to a federation so he went to the federation he was hey man you know because of the UFC ain't nobody joining Taekwondo schools no more all right they're joining fucking kickboxing and jujitsu oh then for then uh what's his name came back you know the show the con guy that Machida Machida and then karate school started filling up a little bit more that monday but until three or four years ago martial arts was traditionally for traditional martial arts was very quiet takes a lot for somebody to go join a hopkido you know they're gonna go join kickboxing it's the end thing so uh he wasn't doing too well with the tanks who though

he called the the koreans and they said no you gotta pay the two thousand a month and he goes and fuck you and he went and he joined Gracie brothers the twins and Torrens and he took their course and he got a blue belt and they certified him to do combatives so that's like jujitsu where you don't wrestle i guess you don't roll or something and he opened that school and he says it's fucking amazing because he gets all anyway where people get beat up he gets the students he goes every week i see a guy coming with a sling on his arm going i want to sign up i got beat up at Gracie Baja i got beat up at 10 planet or i got beat up at this school in hollywood so he gets like a lot of executives and stuff and one day i bumped into him he's like how come you don't come

to taekwondo anymore he know my drug problem he knew everything he's a good guy i told him at the time this is like 2004 2020 because you don't understand if you just come in to see me once a week it'll help you and i'm like this guy's just a salesman and about two weeks ago three weeks ago i saw something that people had just worked out five minutes a day once a week lived longer than people wouldn't fucking work out at all so you know little things like that i've learned great things from different martial arts teachers you know i've been blessed i've never had a bad like phony like you could tell when you sign up at the schools that they're phonies and shit i've heard of all those stories i've never had that you know so and especially now jujitsu everybody's gotta be

good with jujitsu because it's so it's on the way up nobody's gonna have a really bad school now you know because the word gets out i mean in today's you have forums you have fucking forums you have more forums yes and you have the internet which you know you can't do nothing bad you can't do something crooked you know so that's your fucking question lili you can't keep doing marijuana products when coming on the podcast i'm sorry you slowed down the whole fucking momentum of the show you understand you gotta be alive here john evans here you gotta do a good fucking impression impression who of you you gotta make a good impression oh okay john when john evans opens up a school you're gonna join his beginner class and go there once a week and see

him that's scary but yeah what's so scary about this not scary this is john evans is your brother now he did no he's not scary i'm just saying no they're not gonna do nothing to you we just talked about this for no it's not about it's not about them what is it just like me doing it you're beautiful you'll be fine okay within two years you'll be a jewish killer kill fuck krav maga you understand you'll be fucking those krav maga motherfuckers up but you're jewish jujitsu do you know somebody ordered a shirt today from israel and my wife doesn't know how to do the letters somebody ordered a shirt from israel today she goes totally to come over here somebody ordered a shirt from fucking israel whatever well that's hysterical let me give some shout out to you real quick

some people listening bill schwarz i love you cocksucker joe cardner clayton web cleo you sexy bitch jq andrew southern oscar nunes down there in south florida and jamey haga thank you for listening to the show and whatnot all right so you're doing this page over the bjj submissions yes and what do you want it to have next like uh i'm just redoing the website completely it's gonna have i want it to have forums um so people can complain about stuff uh no but it'll have forums it'll have like a store so you can buy you know some cool jujitsu merchandise if you want to it's also going to be the website that we're going to use for the school too so um the students will be able to log on there and talk about whatever they want to but uh yeah and it's going to have all

the videos of the breakdowns and it'll have the live streams of the tournaments and everything so right now it's still in the old form but um i've been working on it for a couple of weeks and some of the functionality i'm the only one working on it so some of the functionality goes down from time to time while i'm trying to fix it um like all the videos on the main page there's just like one thumbnail that works right now so sorry about that but um mainly i think most of the people that watch my breakdowns they just go to youtube.com slash bjj breakdown and that's where you can find all of that stuff and i apologize i haven't been updating it that well because i've been working on the website and i tell what i loved about your videos that you put circles

so it's like uh you know the football guy madden yeah are you tell us right yeah you put circles and that you know like i said i when i first when i first looked at it i thought it was like what the gracey brothers do yeah if they do the u of c and they do moves yes what you did you know and there's a show called what's the show on 11 o'clock on saturdays now on fox fucking interesting show about comedians i've no i've no laughs jokes and it's uh hostela steve hostela comes up and he goes why don't you watch this guy from kentucky so you get all these younger guys to get exposure which is what you're doing with your page which i really there's something there there's something else there you know yeah there's something you

know anybody could see chocolate down anybody could watch uh you know gsp anybody could watch you know you go to these tournaments and stuff like that but to watch young guys you know like and just because i think the people who submit it would just regular people submit this the sometime like the last few have just been like um i think one was all a white belt competitor and another one was a blue belt a blue belt and a purple yeah and uh you know like so i'll throw they'll say hey i've got this guy that he wants some exposure can you put commentary on this match and i'll look at it i'll take it from anyone i think there's stuff to learn from anyone and if you look at like the top guys you look at like a hotter gracey or cabrini or something like that

like they were all white belts at some point too you know i might be commentating on their matches like uh i put commentary on this this kid from autos who's uh just i mean what's his name sam no well there's well there's uh there's um michael liara who's the brown belt who does the sleeve drag that i showed you but uh no he was a younger kid and i saw him at blue belt when he was still in the juvenile division and and i commentated on it because he has a really good match and i mean now he is like one of the absolute top purple belts in the adult division what's his name his name oh my god i'm drawing a blank he's gonna kill me rilando rilando samson and he is sick it was so good and i was fortunate enough to catch him kind of early so you know i he may be a black

belt world champion same with my friend isaac that i train with i he pretty much wins just about everything that he does now but when i was commentating or when i showed some of his stuff and had did a technique video with him you know he wasn't at the level where he's at now so it's it's cool to show some of the up and comers but i also commentate on the professional matches too or professionals they can get the highest level black belt one so um you know i think it's all good you can learn from every single one of those people so whether you learned what not to do from the white belts or maybe something that they don't even know what they did is technically wrong maybe but they do it so well that you can't say that it's wrong anymore and then it's like well

they just discovered a new way to do something because they don't know enough to know that it's bad you know like no one's told them no so they figure out this new way to do it and it might be the best way to do that one thing so you can see all kinds of cool things from all levels and uh yeah i don't know i just i like that you know one thing i realize i'm no genius i don't know nothing about jujitsu like most guys but when i watched the eddie bravo match against uh gracey whatever oh hoyler on the metamores not this one but the previous one i learned one thing oh at least i picked up something that there is a market for jujitsu there is a market for jujitsu i can't figure it out because i don't know

i don't know little things about see that's going to be the problem it's going to be people that want to do that you put the jujitsu on tv you don't really know how to put it on tv and the guys that know how to do the thing don't have time to put it on fucking tv you know somebody has to get a happy medium it's not going to be comedy and jujitsu it's not going to be jujitsu and girls because i don't want to see fucking girls i want to see two guys just have a match maybe it's just for eight minutes maybe it's just for nine minutes maybe it's the concept is there i hope that somebody puts it together and somebody will somebody will on a small scale and they'll just evolve into something

bigger you know like the ufc did you know look what the ufc has done in 10 years it's been leave some balance man so i'm a fan you know i can't believe that and i say this all the time most people of my age fucking dumped their wife and buy a corvette and take a viagra and fuck a bunch of young dumb chicks me i joined jujitsu and wrestle with other fucking fat fucks and smell people's assholes and i had a baby you know only i could fucking do something like that but it keeps my power to dry and that's the most important thing is uh just for it to work you know so thank you uh john for always being supportive and when i call you for answering the phone i've been blown away by jujitsu and anybody who's

watched me the last two years knows that really i just needed it i needed something like that in my life you know we have hard fucking lives man and i i say this every day i go to the why every day and i see people walking there with their fucking phones and i want to go up to them and say why are you doing this to yourself leave that motherfucker in the car come in here and break down your day break down yesterday break down your future this is your hour you know the i don't ever want to talk on the phone when i'm at the gym i don't give a fuck who calls me you know but i needed that and that's what jujitsu gave me something where that i could grow and not have this shit on my fucking mind all the time because trust me when you have a motherfucker

on top of you you don't know what the fuck you're doing it makes you think fast you forget about fucking comedy you start breathing so yeah it's just really been something i wish i would have got into this when i was 21 i really wish and it wasn't around it wasn't around you know uh if you guys ever want come to my house i'm gonna show you the movie that started all i got it off outray channel the other night five fingers of death it says 1974 but that's completely wrong that movie was released in like 71 that really kicked up the martial arts community in this country and then bruce lee came months after that three months after that fist of fury got released then the chinese flag and then we were often fucking running but i saw it

grow but bruce i never saw like nothing you're right it's on every corner fucking jujitsu it really is man and there's no more karate schools left there's a couple of them right there's a couple well a v-max that you show the time uh there's a couple places left but it's just too good man it's just too much fun and i never knew it was gonna be this much fun lee what's up no i think it's pretty cool that you do the commentating because i was a couple fights ago rogan to like a fight companion thing which at some point was better than what's on tv so like i was saying at some point they're gonna be able you why couldn't they say oh joey ds is is commentating the red sox tonight i'll switch to his channel so i mean like because you're just

taking previously aired fights you're not at the fight no i didn't previous did just like me and you wrestling oh and all kind of competition or tournament yeah so like it's just on like a video camera yeah so it's it's it's i mean if this was since we have the technology it's kind of a cool thing to do with it yeah no it's it's awesome i mean i like youtube's weird and copyright stuff is really weird to me um so like uh just to make sure i don't step on any toes and luckily very few people have raised the question with me uh like i'll go to the event and i'll just film it myself so um just so i don't even if they have their own broadcast or whatever i just have a good camera and i just go there and you know it still looks nice and just get my own video of it so

hopefully no questions asked there but do you do it live or do you get back to your office oh no no i wait wait till i get back because it's you know like i also some things like if i'm you know maybe if i get video whether it's submitted to me by someone that filmed it because they want it's it's their friend that's fighting or whatever and they want the commentary on it or i filmed it there like if it's at the worlds and maybe even it can be sometimes like a black belt level where they have like a live broadcast going like i couldn't live broadcast my own at the same time as them it would be competing with them you know so and i don't you know they've never the at least the ibjdf or budo videos are any of them like they've never raised anything against me so that

that's uh you know they probably see uh maybe they don't even know that it exists and hopefully this doesn't bring it to their attention if they're going to be upset but uh you know they probably i would think that they would see merit in it and know that i'm putting it out like at a staggered interval so um that way it's just not not conflicting with the product that they're trying to put out and i do a lot of like purple belts and stuff like that which sometimes they don't even offer to purchase in their uh in their videos that they put out on dvd so i try to keep it like that so it's not you know i don't want to like take anything from anyone i just want to do like my own thing i want to raise awareness to the sport and hopefully maybe they even get more sales from

it so i'm not to put you on the spot here what is the eta for the new and improved bjta breakdown coming it's going to be within the next month so before hopefully before october's over with then uh it should be up and going hopefully sooner than that but i don't want to i don't want to uh where can they send videos to you like if somebody's at home listening because you are going to get people going to send you shit yeah no for sure purple belts and stuff if you want to get viewed you know uh where they send you stuff too yeah um you can send it to john just john at bjj breakdown dot com and that's the i get all my emails from there and i sort through all of them and sometimes depending on the lately it's been i've been so busy with the the new gym and the new website and all

that um that i don't respond to you right away maybe not even within the first week or two but i will get back to you i swear um so send them over and i will get to them as you charge anybody to put it up it's just totally free like there's no ten dollar fucking submission fee in the sport is still like i said in my opinion it's way too uh unpopular right now it's just not it's not at the level that it should be and um you know i want to promote the sport i want people to be more aware of it so the thing that gets me is a lot of these top competitors are not being paid you like i said they they're only hope to get money from it is they dedicate their life to it and hope to god that you win something big like the worlds or the panams as a black belt and then

open up your own gym and just hope that people come and train under you and that's kind of like not a great way to live your life especially when you've put in so much hard work in such a rough sport you know and and maybe you win one year and you lose the next and then you blow out your acl or something or something that's have a horrible accident and you can never compete again and your life is kind of dependent on getting those medals so people keep coming to you um i mean that's just so rough you know i think people should be paid for their fights and uh for all the hard work that they put in so that's never going to happen until more people appreciate the sport and more people watch the sport so i'm i don't charge people

to put my commentary or anything like that at least right now because it's just you know we just got to help each other out and promote the sport and you know it's for me it's awesome if like a there's a top brown belt and he like maybe wins panams and then they send me some videos i put commentary and then i'll get in the comment section like maybe the mom or the grandparents or something would be like oh thank you so much because i had no idea what was going on this match you know i know my son or my daughter or whatever does this thing and i don't really understand it and you know i watch it and i don't know what's going on but i know that won but now it makes more sense and that for me that's awesome so that's the other thing that people aren't

educated on it you know uh years ago i think somebody on one of the channels who have like 10 minutes dedicated to football for women you know i'm just dumb as that sounds women know more about some some women know more than guys and that's the other thing people are just not educated having people and it's and it would take a long time like i just because i i've been with you for a while i couldn't commentate i don't know what the fuck is going on or even close in the neighborhood one time i got put in a spot on one of those anime shows and i just blew it i think they put me on the spot just to get me out of the business or something like that uh no it's it's uh it's a beautiful thing that you do with this and i wish more people knew and it's you know you said it a

couple times during class and this goes across the board for kenpo it's a hard life when you get into martial arts to be a teacher and yeah sometimes you could open up six schools and do this and that and you know as a martial artist you can't have six fucking schools unless you're fucking superman you know and uh there is money in it the thing i've always loved about karate teachers jiu-jitsu teachers you know they're not making a million dollars they do this because they genuinely love this and that's something that you can't say about a lot of fucking people getting a rut and they keep a job they hate because of the paycheck whatever with jiu-jitsu it's like uh nijia nijia goes i got into this to make 20 000 a year that's it he goes and that's

my life 20 000 a year but when i take a kid who's got no athleticism and after eight years and nine years he becomes a black belt let's say in taekwondo he goes that's a million dollars to me you know i know for a guy like john when he sees me do a move that he couldn't see me do two weeks ago now i do it he's gotta feel good because i stuck with it what he told he didn't do something in vain you know the thing that i hate about martial arts instructing would be i gotta teach the same shit to 30 people that walk in that door and all those 30 people three are gonna stay that's the downfall of that that's where your frustrations come in that things have you know and john's got a great attitude he goes things happen in life you might get a

night job we have a great student at the school kyle kyle got a fucking job from two to ten he can't come no more what are you gonna do now you gotta quit your fucking job nothing you could do he's got the job for three months what are you gonna fucking do you gotta pay your bills it's not that he's being lazy is that you know last time i checked the schedule nobody's doing a midnight jujitsu fucking class did you imagine that wouldn't be that bad ha i wonder who the fuck would show up to a midnight jujitsu insomniac motherfucker i do it yeah you would one night i can't do a minute nothing you would if you weren't let's imagine like long order two joints in and you were still up oh fuck yeah you would fuck yeah the only reason why i won't go to jujitsu at

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and they make sure your asshole smells like peppermint you can't beat that john you know what i'm saying your asshole smells like christmas every day of the year everything about that people that's what i'm missing right now that's right what are you gonna do the rest of the night that you're all fucked up look at the shit i'm gonna go home and go to sleep sleep there's no sleeping you're fucking i'm so high and now you're gonna go see john everyone's opens up his school you're at least promise me i'll try a class yeah one class you don't love it you're gonna come back no i know i will that's what i'm nervous about you're not gonna fucking you're gonna yeah the next time paula sees you'll be like 110 pounds you're like you got fucking the hiv or something that's how good

you're gonna look if you go to jujitsu trust me i love the compliment you look like you had the hiv see why your jaw is protruding your eyebrows who the fuck knows what do you got planned the rest of the week john ever what's your next move what's your next what's your next competition are you gonna enter anything before the years i am that is an excellent question i had big plans to compete but uh i mean now it's trying to get the gym open and all of that that's proved to be a bit more work than i'd previously thought so i'm not sure if not this year i will definitely compete as much as possible next year um but yeah i'm just trying to get set up so that me and my training partners all have a good place to just train all the time and then we can get ready to hit these tournaments

up together so now one last question i know you gotta go ask your question when you let's say i say to you john i want to i want to do uh gracey uh white belt one and it's january 10th okay what do i do do i come see you eight weeks before like what uh is there a is a difference from a fight trading from jujitsu tournament you just want to make sure with a jujitsu tournament that you well first of all you don't want to learn anything depending if this is just going to be like your one jujitsu tournament rather than like i'm going to compete every once a month every month um if it's just going to be your one jujitsu tournament you want to limit the amount of new things that you're learning like right before the tournament because you're not going to be able to use that

stuff anyway you're just going to use the stuff that you've trained a lot so you don't want to learn anything brand new right before you just want to work on your basics um on your game it's more of a mental thing and you want to make sure you're in really good shape so you work your cardio a lot and you'll train hard uh just to make sure because if you've never done a tournament before that adrenaline dump hits you and as good as as good a shape as you think you're in you get to a tournament and you feel like you just want to die and that's it's the worst feeling ever if that happens say two minutes into your five minute match and then it's just three minutes of some dude just running all over you it's horrible so yeah you know like you come if you're gonna come to me

then come to me let me know what you're gonna do uh what you want to do competition wise and then we'll get you in good shape um of course if you're planning to do a lot of tournaments then you still want to be in pretty good shape but uh then you you have to constantly learn stuff so you don't have to worry about you know learning stuff right before tournament or whatever because you're gonna do another one the next month and that's honestly the best way to do it it helps keep the nerves down and so do one every month if you can yeah if you can do one every two weeks that's awesome too you just come in a lot less nervous there's a lot less to lose it's not it's not such a big scary thing anymore the more you compete it's just like anything else yeah so if

you go to one big one you know yeah maybe it's it's it's scary and you weren't prepared for it and that's your only tournament for the year or for the half year or something and then your next ones you're gonna be you're gonna have that thought in your mind you know if you didn't win that one it's gonna be lingering and you'll maybe be a little more scared or tentative in the next one which is never a good thing so you want to be uh confident and comfortable going out and not too full of anxiety if possible so there's like a blue boat out there right now like when i do my shows i do my shows in all these towns and towns are big sometimes are small you know i've heard about people who don't have they live in like smaller town they don't have six different fucking jujitsu

was just on burbank boulevard you know and they either like i heard what's the UFC fighter who died he told himself jujitsu didn't need by watching tapes at home i'm talking about not evan tanner yes oh my god wow old school yeah evan tanner he was great yeah evan tanner supposedly told himself a lot of stuff i don't know how true this is so please don't quote me on this so by watching tapes you know so people have questions so uh my contest my my tournament is january 10th it's the second saturday of january when do i sit down and start what is my training regiment do am i like a boxer do do i run every morning do i um do i spar hard every day you know what is it what is it like for somebody at home that doesn't have a million dollars sure

yeah zack let's say zack sure i was gonna do a big tournament in january well a big part of it is just um being your own critic and and making sure you're like your own taskmaster right like you don't want to like sometimes you go to a class and and you do your technique and you're kind of like lazy or bored or just don't feel like pushing it and then i mean of course you have to listen to your body if you're injured or something or you're there's a potential for injury you you got to back off but if it's just like oh i just don't feel that great or whatever then you know make sure that your sleep's in order and your food's in order so you're not you know you're not under you know malnourished or underslept and you're getting the recovery you need to and make sure that

if you can't do that like some people cannot train hard every day it's just not a good way for their body to to work especially if you're older um and even if you're younger honestly like a lot of people just kind of can get through it because they're younger but it's maybe not the best for their body but you should be at least training really hard in my opinion every other day at the very least and you want to be going a lot of rounds and push yourself so if you feel like real tired and you're gonna maybe puke or whatever try to keep yourself like at around that level like don't let yourself puke but keep yourself at that kind of like your your cardio is redlining and just sit in that pocket and get used to just push in the pace and try to go with people that

are better than you try to go with people that are as good as you so that way you're constantly like being forced to push yourself and i think that's that's a really important thing leading up to a tournament because the intensity level if you train real lazy and you get a little complacent you don't push yourself too hard and you're used to oh well this guy's gonna pull guard he's gonna grab my collar and we're gonna sit down have a nice little little roll and it'll be good and if i get too tired i can just stop training after the third roll or whatever you go to a tournament and some guy grabs the back of your head and it feels like the hand of god yeah and you know they they're fighting you like their family's on the line and you're just not used to that it's a

shock to the system and that is not a place where you want to be shocked if in a tournament where your nerves are already killing you you'll start to doubt yourself and then tournaments over basically you have to have that positive mental attitude of i can beat this guy and you know like it's very important so you got to train hard leading up to it for sure that's really important so a lot of mat time a lot of hard training and then maybe strength and conditioning depending on what your body can handle the conditioning more than the strength i depending on the body type um usually like two to three days a week for strength and conditioning that's what i recommend this is the real fucking deal that's if you're really going for it well you heard it here tonight look at the

shape of this fucking gendo look at the shape of you what you know your eyes are almost close to no yes sir no fucking thumb under the bus it's a day the devil was buried let's see look how you act in cucksack you look so good mr devil you look good though brother everything all right he's he's lost 50 pounds last two months you know zack always breaks zack always breaks my balls whenever i go to get to zack's like where's the flying juke zack is your biggest fan you gotta go surprised i love to see zack when i put a gi on you and make you go over there one day and see zack he would be you would make his fucking life if you went over there one day you would just be so happy he's a guy to let you beat him up he would say right get on top me choke me fucking pull my eye

whatever that'd be nice who doesn't want to beat him up sometimes shut the fuck up cocksack oh kippy you want look at those and nick pappadak is a sticks oh nice yeah he dropped some sticks great guys it was terrifying i was hitting them in the light yeah he was testing my freaking what is it called reactions i want to see his reaction you know when they kick you relax yeah you're gonna test this how were they they were good huge wooden sticks how could he hit they were good he doesn't he like he's like yeah i get knocked out of practice how could that how could that be appealing he still can't get over that nick hits people in the head on purpose like it's like now like an attack it's like they go there with the sticks like yeah i'm

gonna get hit in the head today oh my god yeah you pay me it's in there i love you john evin i thank you very much for coming on tonight and doc i mean there was a confusing call with doc because i didn't really know what direction to go in i want to give a shout out to my people down in san diego the revolution and the fucking medical malwan delivery alphamedic and my girl jessica down in every time jessica comes up she brings me a present from alphamedic so i always gotta give him a shout out so thank you john evin thank you i want people to keep in touch so they're on bjjsubmission.com bjj breakdown breakdown.com okay and that's where they can find you and send you emails and tapes and stuff like that to twitter i do it's under bjj breakdown at bjj

breakdown youtube.com slash bjj breakdown probably the best place to find my videos right now while i'm redoing my videos you got up like around a hundred i think no shit yeah something like that yeah oh all right i only found like three of them oh no yeah there's a bunch and these are the ones that the circles on them and everything okay tell us do you have like one fight like not just one but do you have one that sticks out of one that people can look up to see what it's like like a good example of it um i mean just any of the more recent black belt ones like maybe uh maybe uh leandra low or hadolfo vieira fight like i've done a couple of theirs more recently and those are those are pretty good just because they're exciting fighters it makes my job easy

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