Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #222 - Joey Diaz, Rigan Machado and Lee Syatt

Episode Date: October 15, 2014

Rigan Machado, Jiu Jitsu Master and Coach joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. Go to The Academy in Beverly Hills. Talk to Rigan and mention this show and get 2 weeks free. www.theacademybe...verlyhills.com Info for the Jiu Jitsu Camp with all of the Machado brothers in Dallas that Rigan talks about can be found here:http://www.rcjmachadopro.com/ This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout. Nature Box. Visit Naturebox.com and use promo code Joey for a free trial box Naileditlife.com - Get 20% off a vapor pen by mentioning the Church. Meundies.com Go to meundies.com/joey for 20% off. Recorded live on 10/14/2014. Music: Foo Fighters - Best Of You Foo Fighters - Cover of War Pigs from The Late Show With David Letterman

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Starting point is 00:01:36 joey Diaz, talk to Hegan and you're gonna get two weeks for free, which is a great deal. So it's TheacademyBeverlyHills.com and two weeks for free if you mention the church of what's happening now. Oh shit, another fun filled night with the church of what's happened now, joey Diaz, Lisa Yacht still recovering from the edibles and that battery acid Ari's brought last night. But we're here, special edition, the church cocksuckers. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Since he's talking about the best, I got the best on the show tonight. Mr. Hegan Machado joins us on the church of what's happened now this evening. What's happening, brother? It's a pleasure to be here. Oh my god, this is,
Starting point is 00:02:27 we have a very special guest. I mean, my heart's about the break. I'm so excited. Lee, what's happening? Oh, I'm still high. I can still feel it. How are you feeling, brother? You're not feeling too good? No, I feel fine. That last edible kill is the devil. The last two. Because we took it before and then you passed it around twice during the show. No, I just, it took me a while to get to the gym today because even though you like it, I'm not at the point here where I like going high. So I had to wait till like three and I could finally get out of bed, but I ate everything at the house last. I was gonna take today off from the gym, but I ate everything last night. I woke up this morning. My throat was dry. I was thirsty.
Starting point is 00:03:07 At six no more, I got up and drank a gallon of electrocuted water and I couldn't go back to sleep because I knew how to pee. I said, fuck it. And I stayed up. I went to acupuncture. I went to a jiu-jitsu today with Salami. He threw me around a little bit on my knee up there in the 10th planet and that was it. I didn't do shit today. I went to an audition. I got with the baby. I went to this place in Sherman Oaks where you take your kid and they lose their fucking mind. They're like 10 rooms, bacon, supermarket. Everything's rubber. Everything's rubber. It's amazing. Everything is rubber. I banged my head on the brick wall. It's amazing. The shopping carts, the cans. So I got fake groceries. Yeah, groceries, a medic, a kitchen, a basketball thing,
Starting point is 00:03:52 cars. It's for little kids. Oh, so they can play. 12 bucks. So I signed her up. I signed her up for like six things just to take her in the mornings before I go to jiu-jitsu or something just so she gets her shit off before Wally Kazap. Because she's 18 months, man. She fucking runs around. I'm an old man. I can't chase it. So I take her to the park in the mornings. I go to the park like at 8.30 with her and I keep her there till 10.30. And she runs. I run with her and I walk with her, but it's too much. I'm too much of an old man. But that was my fucking day. That's it. Higgin' Machado. What's happened to my brother? My friend. I'm so excited to be here. I'm very excited to be here. I mean, you know, I started jiu-jitsu a year ago and since day one,
Starting point is 00:04:33 everybody kept saying to me, did you go see Higgin' Machado here? Did you go see Higgin' Machado here? And everybody else had talked to me about John Jock. You got to go to John Jock. You got to go to John Jock. But all the other guys, the big guys were, you got to go to Higgin' Machado. So when I found out you were doing the seminar at Street Sports, what's his name? Renato. Renato Machado. Renato Machado. He's your first black belt? Renato was one in the United States, was one of the 12 guys. The first 12 guys that made that black belt in the United States. And they all started down in Redondo? Redondo Beach, yes. Redondo Beach. The first school, I think, was the second school we opened. We have one school in
Starting point is 00:05:13 the valley. And after that, we opened another school in Redondo Beach. And the first group of students who got the black belt started in Redondo Beach. How long does it take? I know everyone's different, but let's say a normal person starts jiu-jitsu today. How many years does it take, do you think? It's up to the student, because you're very consistent. You're training every day in four or five years, you have a chance to get your black belt. But you go once a week, you're two times a week, you break, have big breaks, it's going to take a little bit longer. It can take between four to ten years. But it's up to the student. The student's consistent, he's going to get quick in his belt. That's really cool. Well, because I know,
Starting point is 00:06:05 because Joey's talked about it for a year, and then there's been a lot of guests on who are involved. And it seems like the more you do it, the more addicted you go, and you just start going more and more. So if you start out doing once a week, you're going to end up after six months going five days a week. You know, the more you get in shape, the more you, you know, your body gets used to it. I bet you could go. I've gone three times in one week, and it's been hell. I walked around the store, but at least that was a goal of mine, just to do three times. You know, first you go once, then you go twice, and then you go three times. You know, I hope some of that can go four times or five times. But right now, you know, if you go online and read and this and
Starting point is 00:06:43 this, I mean, the internet loves you. You're like, I mean, B.J. Pence says you're one of the greatest grapplers in the planet at one time. B.J. is a sweet guy. I know B.J. for so long. I remember the first time I met B.J. He was a blue belt. He used to train half-grace in San Francisco. He, I have opportunity to met him, some competition, very sweet guy, but a lot of ability. I remember when he came to my academy, he was a purple belt, and he submit everybody from blue belt to black belt. I was very impressed. I said, you keep going, you're going to be a world champion. And he went to Brazil, was the first black belt, I believe, outside Brazil to be a world champion. In the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, in Brazil, I remember that. I remember one day I have opportunity to
Starting point is 00:07:42 talk to him in SMA. You keep going because you continue on the MMA, you have strong hands. I think you can be UFC champion. He did. He went all the way to the top. So how old were you the first time you got involved with Jiu Jitsu? When I was younger, I have a little bit kind of dyslexia. My mother was very close to Carlos Grace, the founder of the sport of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. And I have problems with coordination, I have problems in speaking, I have problems in school. In early age, Carlos was a nutritionist, was a doctor, he was the founder who created ideas for the family growing the sport. One of the ideas of Carlos, like let me bring him, this kid, to do Jiu Jitsu and do the grace diet. And I started living with Carlos and I have
Starting point is 00:08:46 consistency to have his attention to try to overcome these little problems I had as a child. I ended up getting addicted. I started living with him and moved to Rio. He was a school and full-time trainee for 10 years straight, no start. But I started very early. I started around five to six years old. But I started real training full-time around 14, like five, maybe six hours a day. Five, six hours a day. So you left your family and to move with him? I not left my family because my family lived on the country, lived like in a city called Teresopolis, which was two hours from the big city. My father didn't want us to grow up on the big city. My father wanted us to have play with dogs, ride horses, walk to school. He wanted to give us a chance to be a kid. He
Starting point is 00:09:52 didn't want us to grow up inside the apartment in Rio. It was very nice. We have the best childhood, but the moment I started getting like 14 years old, I moved to Carlos Grace's house, lived with my cousin. He was full-time trainee. Now, what was that house like? Everybody was there, right? I mean, all the greats to the eggs and all those people. When they leave Carlos Grace, he have a house in Ipanema, Ipanema Beach. And the house had four floors. The last floor of the last floor of the house, he had a big space. He put mats. And all the boys have his own mattress to put on top of the mats to sleep. Finish the row and put on the corner. And then when you get ready to sleep, everybody roll the mattress and sleep. Like I have made 10,
Starting point is 00:10:50 sometimes 20 people sleep on the mat. All cousins and brothers was a camp, like a full-time camp. Like wake up early, right there, we put the gear, start training even before breakfast. I remember waking up, like roll the mattress, put the gear, still have sleep. Okay, let's train little beer. That's how we start the day. Well, Joe, you've talked about it a lot about how basketball camp as a little kid, you would come back and be a thousand times better. So if you're living at like the master's house, I can't even imagine. Yeah. I can't even imagine what you guys were doing. And this is a no-yes. And you guys just train, train, train. How old were you when you started competing? I started a very serious competition around 14. Like competing almost
Starting point is 00:11:45 every event, every weekend. I was addicted. I got hooked. Yeah, I want to compete, whatever. Any place I have competition, I didn't care. It's a small competition, big competition. I want to compete. And what were the big competitions in Brazil then? The biggest competition was by the federation under Hobson Grace and Hallyu Gracie, which was everybody come to compete, was the World Championship at the time. And that was, I believe, two times or three times a year, have these big events. And I remember it was amazing because you see all the best fighters come to a big nation. It was a war at the time. Was it from money or sponsorship or was it all just to win? It was for prestige and honor. I believe at that time people didn't care about
Starting point is 00:12:45 money. They didn't care much about anything. They cared about to prove and to be respect. There was peace at the time here in Grand Rapids. That's what it was about. You know, when I was growing up, when I came from Cuba, a couple years later, Bruce Lee hit 1969, 1970. And I saw how karate and kung fu, and I had heard of Jiu Jitsu, but it was nowhere. It was nowhere in New York at the time. Even when I spoke to Matt Sarah, Matt Sarah said, when he started Jiu Jitsu, he had to go from Long Island all the way to Red Man, New Jersey. One day a week, the guy would show up. One day a week on a Sunday, you had to drive four hours to train for three hours and then drive back. That was his Sunday. And it's amazing how Jiu Jitsu
Starting point is 00:13:32 is just taken over now, like kung fu was in 1970. When did you decide to come to the States? The reason I came to America at the time, because... How old were you the first time? I was 22 when the first time I came. And you came to compete or just to look? No, I always wanted... everything was... I have a cousin who lives in San Francisco, a cousin named Cesar Gracie. Cesar Gracie was in my house in Rio for almost a year. In Cesar, I was talking about here, America's difference, more opportunity, you need to come
Starting point is 00:14:17 over. When they decide, okay, I'm going to give the shot, I stay in San Francisco, Cesar Lirubi, and I call another cousin of mine who lives in Los Angeles, Horion. Horion said, come to LA because it was just Horion Hoy's teaching. They used to teach at the garage, you need help because it's time for us to get everybody together to try opening the first Grace Academy. They said, okay, let's give the shot. I came and I helped Horion, and I remember the same time I was over there, I helped Horion. Hickson came and was Hickson, me, Hoy's, and Horion teaching at the garage. In Bays, I remember we have all kinds, only private students, a small group of
Starting point is 00:15:20 classmates teaching at the garage, and Liruba Liru started to grow from there because now it was just Hoy's and Horion's teaching. Now I have Hickson, myself, some other students that come from Brazil to help, and that's when they start to feel things start growing. And my brothers came and we started to decide, let's go to the valley, open another school, Hickson will open his school, and pretty soon start to grow from there. But I remember the Horion was the pioneer in the United States. What year was this? This is on 1992 or something. Wow, so 22 years ago. And you guys already had the vision for Jiu Jitsu 22 years ago, because the USC didn't come around until 98 or something, right?
Starting point is 00:16:14 I think USC was the dynamite, was the explosion. Because before, I remember, I was reading the magazines, like Blackbell to Encycloradio, the magazine, Martial Arts at the time, and they have Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, Ben Joachim, Zina Bell, it was the only grab at the time, but they didn't have nothing about ground fight, nothing. I remember when the first UFC, Hoy's, had opportunity to submit people on the ground, was a shock for them, the world of Martial Arts. After these, everybody wanted training Jiu Jitsu. And that was the time Jiu Jitsu exploded. I remember when they opened my school, I have 100 appointments, people want to do it one day, like people calling to train it, to try, was crazy. I remember was, for me, teaching was the most
Starting point is 00:17:13 best time ever. It was like 20 classes every day, privates. 20 classes. It was crazy. That's why I started calling my brothers in Brazil, to help me, to come to help, because it was too much. I was a friend of Chuck Norris, and Chuck Norris helped us, and Chuck Norris did the advertising at late times. It seemed like, for us, for me, my brother was a big explosion for us. Because didn't have many schools, have us, and the Graces, my cousins. It was a big demand, but not many teachers. The teachers start coming little by little, when Carlos Grace Jr. started the competition, the sport competition. A lot of people come to the competition and start saying, hey, let's open academy. It's unlike now, I believe, you have over 3,000 academies of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in America.
Starting point is 00:18:09 That's a lot of schools. What is Jiu Jitsu like in Brazil? Is it like baseball here? Explain how the world is in Brazil. In Brazil, we think it's different. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is not a martial art. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is when you talk to people from Brazil, it's a lifestyle. A lifestyle to be a human pit bull. A lifestyle to breathe the sport, to walk the sport, to think, to act, to have the health, to the friends. Like when you go to the academy in Brazil, remember growing up, at least the time I was over there, is your brothers. It seemed like you're part of a Navy CO team. Your best friends inside the school. You go on the street, all the friends go together. That group was an amazing
Starting point is 00:19:04 time of a brotherhood growing up in Brazil for me was one of the best days I have in my life. You know, I never wrestled in high school. I played football. I played basketball. I had friends that wrestled. I just didn't never wrestle. So I never had the aptitude for it. You know, I joined, you know, Renato Laranjo? Eddie's the Brazilian. I went to his father was my first karate teacher in 1970 in New York. So I was always a karate guy. And you know, I started hanging out with Rogan and Eddie and they talk, talk, talk. And I'm like, fucking Jiu Jitsu, these fucking guys. What the fuck are they talking about? And this is what went on forever. And you know what? I started watching YouTube at night. And I'm like, that's interesting. YouTube changed the world. YouTube
Starting point is 00:19:54 changed the world. And I would, I would watch a couple music videos, and then I would just stay up, write comedy, and watch Jiu Jitsu. And I started watching your video, Marcelo Garcia, you know, the guy who fought Chao Sonnen, and in Metamorris last, who was Andre Gavau, you know, and I'm like, wow, I started watching Eddie and John John. It's very addictive. Oh my god. And listen, I made mistakes in my life. We all make mistakes, you know, and right now I gotta tell you something. I walked into that GMAC, VMAG, great school, great people. It was like nothing I ever encountered. I was, I was 330 pounds when I walked into VMAG. I was 30 pounds heavier. I was on testosterone. They told me to go on testosterone. My heart was big. I couldn't breathe. The first
Starting point is 00:20:47 time I did a hip escape, I thought I was going to die. I thought I was going to die. Like I saw spots and shit. I had to get up and take my gear off and go outside and get in and breathe. It was sub, but I knew I was coming back the next fucking day. I knew. And you know why I was coming back? Because one, it was hard for me. And I hate when something's hard for me. I want to figure it out. And two, the people. Nobody laughed. Nobody said this. Nobody called me stupid. They picked my hand. They put it here. They let me sweat on them. What man lets you sweat on them? Show me one fucking man that'll let you sweat on them. These guys are on top me, 300 pounds on top of a guy that weighs 180. And he's telling me to grab his collar, choke me, and I'm sitting there
Starting point is 00:21:34 sweating on them. I can't choke this fucking guy. I can't do it in my heart. He's like, choke me, and I'm trying to choke and I can see the sweat hitting him in the face. And I'm like, what person in the world will let you do that? When I went home, that jujitsu just got into me. My biggest mistake was not joining jujitsu at 35. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You know, your brother has a guy that's 60 up there. You know, Carlos was how old, still doing jujitsu. It's funny because I remember one time I was talking to Haley Grace. Haley Grace was 86 or something. I remember one of the guys, what's a, I think I'm too old for jujitsu. He started laughing. It's like, how old are you? Oh, my fifth teacher said, you're a baby. I'm 86
Starting point is 00:22:24 and still training every day. There's no age for, for build your health. There's no age to change your lifestyle. There's no age for you to improve yourself. And that was the biggest lesson I've ever had to, to, to see that person explain things who I kept, why. I love that comment because everybody finds ways to not to do things or the age or the weight or anything. But when you see guys like another day, I see a guy come to the academy to training in my school and he took his legs off. He didn't have any legs. And he jumped on the mat, started doing the warm up training like he loved it. To see he get his blue belt and he keep training his go to get his black belt and he don't have the legs. And people complain like, oh,
Starting point is 00:23:29 my toe hurt. Oh, this and that. Oh, no, I'm overweight. Oh, I'm too old. I look at the guy who didn't have the legs and the guy come and train every day is no excuse. The only person who can not let you train is yourself. The biggest battle in life for me is yourself. You're learning how to overcome yourself. You can accomplish anything you want. You're right. So is it like, let's say a 20 year old comes in and like a 70 year old, is it the same class or for like the 70 year old you're like, all right, we're gonna have you do this, not this because your knees, like how much does that come into it? Growing up in Brazil, my mentality was to build warriors for a war zone competition. We always thinking about competition. But when I start coming to America, I realized
Starting point is 00:24:20 not many people come for competition. A lot of people come for hobby. Some people come to improve their health. Some people come for losing weight. Some people come to build the confidence. Yeah, I learned how to adjust that what I used to do in Brazil to adjust for each student I have, is going to be up to you. When you come to the academy, I say, what you want from me. And the students, I want to do this, do that. Okay, I got it. Let's do it. It basically sometimes you adjust the type of training according to what the students want. In case the students want to be a world champion, it's a different training. You have to train more often and have to compete more often because it's about hours on the mat, hours in competition to get to the high level.
Starting point is 00:25:08 You understand? It sounds like you have to go upstairs. You want to reach quicker to the top, you have to walk more. In case you just want to do steps to improve yourself a little bit, you can do little steps. And you're going to keep growing your knowledge, your game, your health, but to be on the top of the mountain, you have to pay a little price. Time, effort, consistency, love what you do is not just like one click and make your world champion. No, it's a lot of work. And it's cool that there's different mountains. Like the mountain, the top of the mountain for you, Joey, might be like doing it, doing 10 minutes and not, not being winded or the top of the mountain for BJ Penn was the UFC. That's kind of cool. The top of the mountain for me and this
Starting point is 00:25:58 is just to, I want to stay healthy for my daughter. And I know that I know that if I do this, listen, man, you could just lift weights for so long. You could just run for so long. You know, you could just do all these things for so long. I know I could do that. And listen, we all have good and bad days. You're going to get hurt. You're going to twist an ankle, you're going to twist a wrist, you know, but for the most part, it's what, for me as a 50 year old, this is what I enjoy right now. I'll do, I'll do kettlebells. I got them in the trunk of the car. I'll do, you know, kettlebells. I'll do swings. I'll do, you know, the clean and pull. I'm doing everything I can to be better at jujitsu. Do I want to be a world champion? Not really. I don't have the time. I
Starting point is 00:26:37 wish I had 10 hours a day. You know, I know from comedy. When I got into comedy, I was fucking terrible. I was fucking terrible, but I had one thing. I had presence on stage. I had presence. So I had something to work with, you know, I had something to work with. And I kept going. And the reason why I got heavy, because I didn't even think of my health, I did everything I could to become the best comedian that I could. And that means you got to go out seven nights a week. That means you stay out till two. Some nights you got to drink and smoke pot. You know, some nights you got to get your dicks up. You know, it's always something, you know, but I was young. I thought that me walking would keep me healthy. But I dedicated, and I know how hard you have to work,
Starting point is 00:27:22 to be at the comedy store, to be in Los Angeles is the world series for comedians. This is as good as it gets. The comedy store, the Laugh Factory, the Impromptu, those are them. I'm not Bill Burr, and I'm not Mark Mann, and I'm not Joe Rogan, but I'm walking with them. Do you know what I'm saying? And I had nothing going on. I went to prison. I had problems, you know, and I, so I know the work that has to go into jiu-jitsu. I know the work. If I wanted to be a painter, I know what needs to be done. If I wanted to be a bricklayer, I know the work. I know that you have to sacrifice, you know. And a lot of people don't want to do that. A lot of people want to be world champions and go there once a week and do an arm bar and go home. And then
Starting point is 00:28:04 they get beat up, and then that's the end of the fucking dream. That's the end of the dream, because they don't think they had it. They didn't put the time in, you know. So effort, you know, I believe one thing. I don't want to be a world champion, but I want to be good at jiu-jitsu. So you know what? I got to go. I got to go, and I got to get beat up, and you got to do hip escapes, and you got to pass out, and you got to get choked out. For me, I know if I do jiu-jitsu, I could do fucking anything. When I leave the academy at 1245 and I'm driving up Laurel Canyon, my dick is this fucking big. Even though it's two inches, my dick is this big. I'm pushing cars out of the way, because I did the hardest thing for me. That's the hardest thing for me, is to do
Starting point is 00:28:47 a whole thing of hip escapes in back. So every time I go to the academy, I always do hip escapes, just to get that old way. Then Dave teaches, or you teach. I learned something from Hugh, I learned something from the other guy. And the next thing, you know, I'm driving home going, I can't believe I fucking did it. You know, for the first year, every time I went to jiu-jitsu, I took an aspirin, and I hugged my cats and my wife. I thought I was going to die. The first fucking year, I thought I was going to die. So I would take an aspirin, I would hug the cats, I would hug my wife. My wife's like, what's going on with you? Just in case I don't make it back from jiu-jitsu. But I'm going to fucking go. I don't give a fuck. So I understand what you're
Starting point is 00:29:25 saying, and I want people at home. You're a world champion. I mean, you could read up on you and it says, you know, you win 19 fights in one day and all this, but it's so weird, since the first couple months I got into it. Eddie Brown was one of my best friends in the world. I love Eddie. Eddie's my heart. Eddie will tell something good about me to everybody. But I want to learn the gi. I'm old school. I'm traditional. I want to learn the fucking gi. I want to learn the gi first, and then you go to no gi later. But I knew nothing. I came to you, nothing. And whatever I walked into the academy with, you know, ever since I go to the academy, I do the BJJ training journal. Have you seen that? You told me to get a notebook. I go online and do bjjtraining.com.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And you learn the technique. I put the note of how I felt. Baba Baad, Dave taught this, you know, take the arm away. You make notes and you write the technique and you put mat time. And it keeps everything going. At the end of the month, it says you went 16 times, you'll improve. But you told me, get a notebook. At first, for the first year, I would leave there and I wouldn't know what the fuck they just taught me. I would go home and be lost. Now, as soon as I walk in the house, before I take a shower, I eat, I go on the computer and I write the move down, you know, little things. I like this, guys. I enjoy doing this. Let me ask you this, Higgin. I'm a white belt. I don't want to do nothing. I just want to learn jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Why do I call Higgin Machado over Eddie Bravo or John John or Cabrinha? Why do I call Higgin? For me, I think I have a good experience in life. I think I have a good experience in this sport. Everybody has knowledge. Everybody has techniques to teach you. For me, my goal, when people come to my academy, my number one goal is to make that person a better person. Yeah, able to do that. That's why I can see myself to be a master, a instructor, a professor, because I see the person improve in many different ways, improve to be a better person, to be a better father, to be a better friend, to be everything he enhanced. I have a chance to push that through the jiu-jitsu, to have a chance to talk to him, to explain about his talk here about what jiu-jitsu
Starting point is 00:32:07 made for me. I have one philosophy. Very simple. The philosophy is love jiu-jitsu. Jiu-jitsu is going to love you back. When they come to the academy to teach, it's not about to teach their cat to love what they do. Why go over there to do a seminar? I feel that's not work. That's something I like to do so much. I feel so privileged to teach something. I love it. And basically like the consequence, money, success, a glory, fame, all these come and go. But what keeps me happy every day to know I'm doing something. I love it. To have a chance to give that love to a student, to give him a chance to start love, to come to the academy. That is bring some love for him, bring some love for his life, helping him to come a better person to
Starting point is 00:33:06 something. I'm very good. I think that's Higga Machado. That's a good way to put it, man. Thank you very much. Now, when you walked in tonight, we were talking, I told you you were going to do the podcast Sunday, but then I spoke to my friend John and he said he was doing a thing for your rules. You're starting a new league. You said you want to talk about this new league. You're starting, and why? Yeah, I explain why. My whole life, I competed in Jiu Jitsu. I have been doing Jiu Jitsu for 42 years. He competed all my life. Basically, the sport of Jiu Jitsu, one of the things sad for me is to see we lose some of the top competitors for the MMA. Let's start thinking like, wait a minute, why did that happen? Why you lose some of the top competitors for the mixed martial arts? Because
Starting point is 00:34:11 come to a point, mixed martial arts, the MMA offer money for the athletes. The athletes can come famous. They can make money. They can open opportunities for him to get the big sponsors, because in pay-per-view, reality show, TV, Jiu Jitsu is a great sport, I believe, in over 180 countries right now. Any part of the world you go, you're going to find the Jiu Jitsu School there, a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu School. But I think my goal is to change that. My goal is to be sure the athletes start making money on the sport they love. He want to stay on the sport for the rest of his life competing the sport. The sport is going to take care of him too. I think because you train all your life, but you get a medal, after a while you said, poor, I have enough medal. Now I have to
Starting point is 00:35:10 think about how to get some green in my pocket. And what I did, the first thing I did, I tried create a team, a group of people with capacity to push this sport on the next level. For lack of experience, I unite myself to people who didn't know much what they're doing and was not success. I did a couple try, try to do this, try to do that, but the team was not success. When they opened the Academy of Beverly Hills, I started teaching a private student for this kid. And his father is a guy named Matt Thimlin. Matt Thimlin was one of the major guys who helped Fox to grow around the world. He brought Fox Sports to Australia, he brought to Brazil, he brought all over the world. And he sold his business for fortune.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And after this, in Stockholm, a box promoter, over 200 fights from Mike Tyson, all these major fights, George Foreman, he promotes some amazing fights. What's his name? Max Hellerman? Matt Thimlin. And we come partners, we got the whole team complete. We got one of the biggest producers from Colorado named Kirk. We got like a great global market guys, we got that team of guys to create the rules. But we specialize for try get to TV. Everything about the rules is for TV. How we can make this sport for TV excited, like people like it, to raise the number of points people try hold the fight is going to lose points, and to push this, the guys to be more aggressive. Like I give example, you do a throw, you do in the World League, no, the World Brazilian
Starting point is 00:37:07 Jiu Jitsu League, we call the aggressive rules. Why? Like example, you do a throw, not a small throw, you just do a take down a little throw, two points, you do high throws above the waist, you do a big throws, the guy go very high is four points. The reason because you want to see a lot of big throws, we create like example, every time the guy don't want to fight, start lose points automatically, he lose two points, he start hold the game, lose four, the third time is qualification. He basically like start create something like bonus point. What mean bonus point? You do a sweep, a mount on top, you score two points very close to each other, you do the two points plus the mount plus two points for bonus point. Because more points
Starting point is 00:37:59 we bring to the game, to the chess game is more exciting. It's like you see submission, you see like people is going to be excited to see action, you understand? That's what the change, I try build this sport to go more grass, to bring it like to TV, to get big sponsors, to get bigger tickets sell on the arena. That's what been work for the last nine years. Finally, these next years we organize to put together 20 events, the website is going to be come out for soon. And for soon you guys going to hear about this new world league, it's like the world league, the world Brazilian-Jewish league, the name of the organization. And where is it going to be based on Los Angeles?
Starting point is 00:38:51 No, we're going to do all over America. Yeah, we're going to start the major cities, California, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Texas, Florida, Atlanta. Yeah, we choose some the major cities after these we're going to few small cities, but we want to focus in a place have the biggest number of academies to bring the competitors on the sport. We're going to sponsor a lot of the sport, the fighters. When you do the championship, we're going to give big part of the money for the athletes, back to the athletes. We're going to give money for the academies. We want to start the philosophy of the organization, honor integrity in respect like honor the sport, integrity organization in respect to competitors. That's based the
Starting point is 00:39:55 culture I want to create in this organization. I want to the athletes have a home to start making money. I want the athletes start see the new generation superheroes. We want to make them to look the new stars. Anything the organization start growing to the level we want, which I believe is going to a wheel, but I want to do a year to get all the mistakes on the organization class. I don't want to start professional right away. We have capacity because the relationship for my partners. But I told my partner, let's do one year amateur to get to a level we can go professional. We super organized, super ready to go. And my partner agreed, let's do one year amateur in the second year we will go professional.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I think you did two years away from TV. I think the rules are the most important. That's why I want to focus so much on the rules to train the referee, to make a little bit more entertainment for people to do. Because it's very important when you watch TV, to the sponsors, you have to be very aggressive, you have to be very motivated. Because we're going to be able to capture more people to watch. Because you do like he's doing right now is not so attractive to TV. It's attractive for the people who know Jiu Jitsu, the people who have the fans, but forget more people to watch. We need to make entertainment. Like same like when you watch UFC, it's a takedown, it's a submission, it's a knockout, it's kick, it's very exciting to watch. That's excitement I want
Starting point is 00:41:46 to bring to competition in the grappling world. I want to bring to the Jiu Jitsu, I want to try to push to the next level. I want to be sure Jiu Jitsu, the athletes start making money, they can leave doing that sport. They're good in what they do, they will be famous, they will be making a lot of money, they will get everything they want from that sport. You know I get up early, you guys know I get up fucking early four, three-thirty sometimes and I write, you know I write. I got up last week in Denver one night and I saw fucking darts on television. Fucking darts. Guys that throw darts at a fucking ball. No, I'm not disrespecting darts, I'm not disrespecting pool, I'm not disrespecting poker on TV. How many times you put on TV and there's five fucking
Starting point is 00:42:38 lunatics with sunglasses on playing poker? How fucking exciting is that? There's no excitement at all. No way you just sit there like a fucking moron and watch these guys play cards. I think that Jiu Jitsu could be 20% more exciting than fucking poker, okay? Even until you work out the clinks, you know, some people don't understand it. There's a new channel on right now, NBA. Anybody wants that NBA channel? Whatever, just a basketball, whatever. But NBA has basketball games but there's no fucking basketball now so we think they show. They show old games and they show the NBA in the 70s and how they got people, the NBA on CBS, that's what it was called. And they had people, you know Red Orback was a great coach from the Boston Red Sox. Boston Celtics used to smoke a cigar,
Starting point is 00:43:32 little guy, fucking whatever. And at halftime of the basketball games, he taught a clinic. He taught a move. He got a professional to teach slam dunk or dribble or defense or something like that. You put together a half hour Jiu Jitsu show, you know? Three matches, four matches, one of them, in between one of the matches, you come out, John Jock, and somebody teach a move to educate. Yes, I think you're right. You have to educate them. Yeah, but when do we get to TV? We're going to come to a TV show, a reality show, the whole pack. We're going to make like America Idol. We're going to do a ranked system. More people competing, you're high on the rank, you're an automatic Google professional. It's going to be, you have the whole mathematics behind. But we need
Starting point is 00:44:19 to do one year of events to understand how to do the right way. Because the moment we go professional, you don't want to do mistakes. You can't afford to do mistakes. Because it's going to be a chance to change the sport to the next level. Basically, that's what the group decided. It was not just me, but it's a group of ten people who analyze everything to be sure we do everything in the right way. So far, we're doing amazing. I think people will love this news world league because we will change the sport to the next level. Are you filming for the next year? Are you going to film the events? No, yes. We're going to have like probably online pay-per-view, the semi-finals and finals. Because it's like what Joey said earlier. Like let's say for the first
Starting point is 00:45:17 year, the numbers aren't amazing because they're finding out. But on YouTube, if you put up the best fights, then the next time they come to that city, you'll sell out. And then it's a cool process. I agree with you 100%. Today, the power of the social media is crazy. I think we hire the best group to work specifically like what you say, YouTube, China, this and that. But we'll be bigger than that. We want to have a show, like exactly what teaching, educating people, interview the fighters, go around and go to people's houses, have a little bit more education about this sport. We're not just going to be on the mat, but we're going to be on the guys' house. I want to talk to the guy. Why are you competing in Jiu Jitsu? Show his training,
Starting point is 00:46:09 show his preparation to go to this event. We're going to do all these behind the scenes, you know what I mean? To get people excited to come to the competition, to excited to be a part, oh, these world-class guys get ready to compete, the Toro Tokuma World League, we need to bring all that. And I would imagine it would be good for the schools because I know nothing really about you. I'm a very amateur fan, but everyone knows like the Winkle John camp, the Black Zillion. So like when you get the tournament up and running, let's say the champ is from the Academy in Beverly Hills, everyone's going to want to go there. If everyone goes to, if one of the champs is from 10th Planet in Chicago, they're going to want to go there. So it's going to be cool. It'd probably
Starting point is 00:46:58 be good for like the schools to be involved in it. It's going to be good for everybody. Listen, when Machita won that Monday, 10,000 people signed up for Chodokan Karate. That's just the way life is. Everybody wants to do what they want to do. Listen, when I grew up doing martial arts, I grew up going to Aram Banks. When I was a kid, Aram Banks was in New York, used to get Madison Square Garden. Like Billy Banks is? No. This is Aram Banks, a white fucking dude. And he would get Madison Square Garden on a Saturday. And he'd have karate, judo, kung fu stars. And at the end, he'd have a guy come out with a glass and they'd shoot him with a 22 and he'd take the bullet out of the air. It would break the glass. He had a special mouthpiece with a jaw. And finally,
Starting point is 00:47:47 it got on Wild World of Sports. If you look at YouTube, Wild World of Sports, Aram Banks Karate, that was huge. That's just just a fucking beard, you know? But he took Madison Square Garden once a year and fucking packed it. Nobody knew. There was no social media. There was no fucking commercials on TV. There's a market for it. We're ready for Jiu Jitsu. We've accepted MMA. It's on Fox, you know? And just, I know it's going to work because I know your passion. I know your passion for the sport. I know that. I love the sport. I love Jiu Jitsu. For me, I want to explain something here. Go back to the past little bit, when you mentioned something about Gi, no Gi, this and that. I want to explain for you in Brazil how we think. Because I think in America,
Starting point is 00:48:36 sometimes, think one guy do Gi, the other guy do no Gi is different. In Brazil, Jiu Jitsu, the word Jiu Jitsu for us, is the same like for you grappling. You understand? Right. When you go to Brazil, you say, I'm a Jiu Jitsu, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competitor. For us, we, a grappler, you take the Gi, we, a grappler. You go to MMA, we use the grappling to win the fight. You go to Asambo or Judo, we go to the ground, we use the grappling to adjust the knowledge, how good you are in the goal, to adjust according to what we do. We want to be good with Gi, no Gi, fight, no fight. Judo, any type of grappler, we use the grappling. That's what Jiu Jitsu for us in Brazil. When people come on, no, at Bravers, no Gi, these guys with Gi, no. We are grapplers. We both with Gi, no Gi.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Some people don't want to teach it Gi, teach no Gi, that's okay. But for us, we train everything. We train people to fight grappling for MMA. We train people to fight grappling for Judo. We train people to fight grappling for Asambo. I want to train grappling for sport Jiu Jitsu. Whatever have grappler, I want my students to compete. I want my students not to think about, oh, I'm just a good, you're a grappler, you're everything. When I first moved out here, I moved out here to be an editor. And there's two main programs that editors use. And when I came out here, I would ask people which one do you like? And some people would have an answer. But the best people who told me the answer were like, I'm an editor. I can, if you get any program, you give me, I'll figure it out. So
Starting point is 00:50:34 it seems like it's kind of like the same thing. It's like the real, the best people in Jiu Jitsu want like, oh, this kind of gear, this kind of movement, like I'm just a Jiu Jitsu player, like it doesn't really matter. Like I give a good example. When I used to train with Ross Grace in Brazil, Ross Grace brought us Wesley. He won everybody training Wesley. He wanted us to train Judo. He put his students to fight Asambo. He wanted us to learn every sport to, because more knowledge you have, your grappling in general is going to be fantastic. You can't limit yourself. Oh, I just want to train if you get now. You want to train if you get no gear, you want to compete, everything come to you in the grappling world. That's why when they come to America, I compete Judo,
Starting point is 00:51:23 I compete with Wesley, I compete with Roman, I compete with Asambo because didn't have Jiu Jitsu competition. I didn't want to stop. I want to keep progress my grappling. Doesn't matter all kind of competition. I want to keep going my knowledge. I want to use my ground fight to adjust for whatever is coming. That's a beautiful analogy, bro. Have you noticed that Joey, like because you did karate as a kid, has any of that, even all these years later, has any of that, like have you had like a flashback to a movie you did in karate and a work you did too? No, but I think that I'm not a I was never a fast guy, but karate always made me very quick, like just boom, like quick. I think that helps me a little bit. And as I get better in Jiu Jitsu, my footwork will help, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:10 whatever it is, you know, whatever. But yeah, probably everything helps, you know, everything helps at the end of the week. Like you said, no matter Asambo, if you, you know, I know young kids now, 25, 26, they train, they go to the wrestling camp in North Hollywood, they go to Judo and Swatel, whatever that is, and Olympic and Swatel, that's, that's the thing. You know, that's why it's so hard to do, you got to do all these things, you know, if you want to be the best, like you said, you got to do the fucking Sambo, the grappling, you know, it all helps. What do you think, brother? Yeah, I agree for you 100%. We all agree here. So, so there's no, because you've talked about the little bit I know is that there's different schools like Machado, and then there's
Starting point is 00:52:52 the Gracie, and then there's the Bravo. And it seems like they're like, some people might think there's like competition, but there's probably not. Can I say, every school of Brazilian Jesus comes from one bag, but sometimes have a different flavor. The flavor comes from the instructor, but everything comes from the same bag, the same grappling, but the same instruction, the same, but some, some guys more grass, some guys more flexible, some guys like more this, more that, and the competitor, he adjusts the way he like to teach. That's the difference. Some people like to teach this, that little bit different, and they adjust, oh, I like to teach this new game, he, that's me. Oh, I like to teach this, but the basics, everything comes from the
Starting point is 00:53:43 That's what you found Teagan, right? Yeah. No one. So, the beauty of jiu-jitsu, it's an art. Yes. Like comedy, like drawing, and the beautiful thing about an art is I teach you an armbar, and however you, or you teach me, and I don't teach you, shit. And however I get that armbar is my art. Yes. Are you with me? Like, they've talked to Mountia a day from the armbar, from the mount, the hand, I'll get good at it eventually, but then I'll turn it into my style of armbar, and that's the art. That's the art that you will adjust to your, what was your game when you were competing all those years? It's basically like, when you're a blue belt, like in the sport brazilian jiu-jitsu, the belt is almost like
Starting point is 00:54:35 the levels as a grappler. Like, for example, blue, purple, brown, black, blue is the start as a white, blue is the first real belt you get. Sometimes people analyze the general knowledge you have, like you have the ABC well done. Now, purple belts, I mix it up more the techniques, but the same techniques you do as a blue belt is the same techniques you do as a black belt. The difference from when you do as a blue belt to the black belt, you sharpen the techniques used to submit as a blue belt, the same technique is going to submit as a black belt, but the difference, the experience, the dreams, you submit like thousand guys, if the techniques are basic, your confidence in your game is going to be different.
Starting point is 00:55:32 On the beginning, you're, oh, let me train, let me try this sweep. This sweep is going to be the same sweep you're going to do 10 years later, but the difference is you're really doing really, really well because you did so many times, that's the difference. It's like each person is going to figure out what he likes. When he starts to play around, when he starts to dream, he's going to feel, I like this better. Every time I train this work, that's your techniques. It's like, basically, you try many things, but the techniques you try work, that's going to little by little tell what is going to be your game. Now, this camp that you do, how many years has you done this camp? This camp, I believe we have now four years. This one is going to be, I think this one is the
Starting point is 00:56:30 50 years. Basically, the camp was very difficult to get all the brothers together because all the brothers in different states, very busy. Sometimes I call my brother Jean Jacques, he's in Abu Dhabi. I call my brother Carlos, he's in Max. I call my brother John, he's in Canada. Everybody got so busy, it's very hard to get all the brothers together. My brother Carlos said, you know what, let's get everybody together to do a camp, all the brothers together. You bring my students, you bring your students, you bring your students, you bring a big group and have a good time, we will see each other. That was the idea, but stuck at very success. We stuck at point like we have to hire a bigger place, three times bigger than the place we have before, to have all
Starting point is 00:57:25 the students from all these different places to come to training. It was a big success. It's going to be 24, 25th and 26th this month. It's going to have all the five brothers over there. It's very easy. You just go to rcjmachadopro.com and have all the information, all the details. Even give guidance like hotels, how to get over there, the time. It's a great vibe because every day you train two different brothers, after this everybody get together, go to a big barbecue place over there to everybody eating. It's fun. I think this year is going to be the biggest one. We have already signed up so many people. We still have a big space. I recommend you guys to go as soon as possible to hold your spot. What's the website again? rcjmachadopro.com. I'll put it in the description.
Starting point is 00:58:42 It's three days. It's Thursday, Friday, Saturday. When I was a kid, I used to go to basketball camps and football camps. They're a week long. It's three days now. There's four brothers, five. John's where in Dallas. There's John, Jean-Jacques, myself, Roger and Carlos. Where's Roger? Roger is my older brother. He has a school in Pasadena. By the ice house? The little school? Yes. That's your brother there? Is he there though at night? He has a school over there, but he teaches all over. He teaches sometimes in Santa Monica. He teaches tournaments. He's doing a lot of seminars. He's pretty busy, but he owns a school in Pasadena. Yes, it's right there by the ice house. I've seen it right there. Then the other brothers in Tarsana and Malibu, John
Starting point is 00:59:32 Jacques. John Jacques just get ready to open a big school in Malibu. Is it even bigger than the other ones? Yes. The other one is no more space. He now got one four times bigger. By the Malibu colony, the area, I think right next to the fire department. Right. Where was the other one at? It was right by Cross, in the very famous sushi place, Nobu. Yeah, it was across the street, but it was 1,200 square feet. It was small. I heard it was very small. This one is over 5,000 square feet. It's going to be a good space for feet like three, four, four hundred students easy. And where's Carlos? Carlos is in Dallas with John. John moved to Dallas. Carlos and John have probably like six schools now in Dallas. Now I bumped into John Jacques in Dallas maybe
Starting point is 01:00:33 seven years ago. Yes. At the airport. I was with Eddie and Joe and they bumped into him. What was he? He was down there visiting John. Yeah, when he go to Dallas just to see to see my brothers. No, when I went to the somebody told me at the Academy and I went home and looked at the website and everything was hunky-dory. Even with the surgery, I was going to try to go to the Dallas improv Wednesday and Thursday and then come see you Friday, Thursday and Friday and then come home Saturday. I couldn't stay Saturday. That was the problem. And I thought, you know, that would be and then I got that call. I got to go to Miami and pick up that stuff. So that was my deal. You know what I'm saying? You're going to go to Dallas for three days and let
Starting point is 01:01:16 he can beat the fuck out of you for three days. No, he's the star first, but it's not about beatings. It's about loving. Have a good time. Do you guys ever think because from the way it sounds, it's kind of like if like the best baseball players were having, like do you ever think like it's kind of for the students, it must be kind of crazy to have like the Machado brothers all five of them in one place? All five of them in one place, yeah. For me, my philosophy, me and my brother, we have a philosophy. The philosophy we have about friends, about business, about anything in life. Leave your ego at the door. And it's not about the money. It's not about the success. It's about to build good bridges
Starting point is 01:02:04 and have good friends. And when you go to the camp, we treat everybody the same. You want to love everybody. You want to have fun with everybody. I think that kind of culture for me, my brothers, help us to unite each other because there's no gritty between us. My brother doing something, we want to support him. My other brother doing something, we want to support. Like you go to my brother, Jean-Jacques, or go to somebody, you ask, who's the best between you guys? Jean-Jacques is going to say Higan. You ask me, who's the best between you guys? I'm going to say Jean-Jacques and Carlos. We're kind of, we're not better than anybody. We're total together. We're great. You understand? And basically, this is amazing,
Starting point is 01:02:52 that kind of culture you create because we try to transfer that for the students. That's why when people come over there, there's no ego. There's no, we try to beat each other. There's no about who's the best. It's about, let's have a good time. Leave your ego outside. Let's, inside here, we want to have fun, train, exchange knowledge, and have a great time. That's what I love, the Machado group. We have a great philosophy about life. One of the matches that I've watched on YouTube, and now that you brought up, I was thinking about it, is one against one of your cousins. It's a famous Nixon. Now you guys live together, and you train together. Yeah, Hickson, for me was my idol. Growing up, I was,
Starting point is 01:03:41 was horse in Hickson. At the time, the champion of the family, like, for me was, wow, this guy's the best. He basically, like, growing up, Hickson loved the Machado brother. He loved us. He come to training for us all the time. He invited me, Jean-Jacques, to come to his school, to have private lessons with him all at two or three times a week. He always, one of the things about Hickson, Hickson is so sharp in details. He taught my, my game to be very detailed about. He explained to me, you have to focus on the details right here, right there, this little movement here, and this opened my mind to come a master in details. Hickson was very good on that. I learned a lot about that. But the problem with the growth of the sport, I was very successful compared to very early,
Starting point is 01:04:38 and basically have, was events called the company, have a big, a close line called the company. In Brazil, like we say, Adidas, Reebok, but in Brazil was a big sport company, sponsor all the major sport. They really love jujitsu, start make big events, big money, TV, these and that, and they brought thousands of people to watch the event. Hickson, the black belt was the day everybody came, like thousands and thousands of people, national TV. And the problem, Hickson's fighter got hurt. And my fighter was a fighter. I won three times before. And Helio Gris said, wait a minute, we need a show. We need to have a good fight or that's not going to be good for the sport. Helio Gris was very sharp. And he came to Hickson and said, you have to fight Hickson
Starting point is 01:05:42 because that's going to be one of the best fights ever. You have to go and fight Hickson. And he told from my coach, told from everybody, that fight has to happen now because it's the opportunity to motivate people. These people came here to see a show. We need to give the fight to them. For me, it was very hard because Hickson was my teacher, my idol. Imagine like, oh, you have to fight your coach. I said, the first answer has no way in hell. I'm going to fight Hickson. My jujitsu improved 80% because of Hickson. And basically, everybody said, man, you have to fight, isn't that? I said, I'm not going to fight. I'm not going to fight. I'm going to give, go over there, raise Hickson's arm. He would be my owner to do that because he's the champ. But one thing,
Starting point is 01:06:43 Hickson is very smart. Hickson knew me so well. He came to me in Higan. We have to fight. Yeah, I said, oh Hickson, I prefer not because I don't want to fight with my cousin and my coach, my idol. He said, you don't understand, we'll have to fight. I said, Hickson, in case you're going to the mat to re-fight you, it's going to change. I'm not going to look you like Hickson. I'm going to look you as a competitor. And Hickson said, the best is going to win anyway, or something like that, who pushed me, might trick me. At that point, like I said, okay, I will go after you. It's like, almost like I said, you know what, let's do it. Hickson knew how to do that. And that for me was one of my best fights ever because nobody holds nothing back.
Starting point is 01:07:41 And Hickson came, I came, and we went to a war. There's no like holding back. I'm not going to, no, we both tried to do everything. For sure, I realized, I did the best fighter for my life, but Hickson was the best. And I realized, to have a chance to go to the best guy in the world, with 18 years old at the time, you were 18, and have a chance to give him a match for he never forget was for me was a big victory because I realized, you know what, I think one day I'm going to be a big champion because that fight woke me up for after that, I changed so much, I grew so much as a competitor or as a fighter was one of the best experience I ever had that day. It changed you forever.
Starting point is 01:08:37 It changed because you realize you can, you can be like your idol, you can be good as the guy you dream growing up to be and to have a chance to get the experience to fight the guy and do a good fight is amazing feeling. I realized Hickson was much better. I realized I didn't have what's take. Because for me, I believe like this, you're going to the map, you don't want to win by two or three points, you want to take the picture, you want to say, now I'm the number one, I'm the champion. Yeah, I believe that day I didn't have 100% what I need. I was young, I didn't feel I have what's take to beat the champion like Hickson. But one thing I got from the fight, I got the biggest experience of my life and from that day
Starting point is 01:09:32 I wake me up in a level is amazing. I felt like I come from a young guy to a real man. You know what I mean? To a real competitor. After that I won so many amazing matches. I come so successful after that was amazing. I'm thankful for Hickson because Hickson didn't come to me to try to treat me, probably didn't want to fight, probably give me the victory or something like that. That was an experience I'm never going to forget. Now when you say, there's a lot of, I let people know that you were going to be on the show tonight, a lot of people said I'm going to tune in for the people at the beginning or whatever belt you're in. When you say details, what an excellent teacher is a detail. Details for me is everything.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Like Hickson called the invisible jujitsu. Like you can go teach a lot of techniques and this and that. But the details will change the techniques to master the techniques. Like example, when you know every inch about the techniques, when you know, hey, you change your movement a little bit here, you put your finger here, you pull it a little bit here, you create leverage in the level of details. The techniques when you do it is so easy. It's amazing. That's when you realize wow or a difference. That's what you call the difference to know the techniques and to master the techniques. It's two different things. Everybody can know the techniques, but when you master the techniques, it sounds you have a tool you can apply anytime
Starting point is 01:11:10 you want. It's like the magic you have on your game. When you start showing the guy, you're so good in the techniques. Many different details. When you do, it's easy to apply. It that's the magic I think I learned through Hickson growing up to focus on the details. Today, so much improved because I realized that is very important. Now, when we get on the mat and we slap hands, what should a person like me or a beginner be thinking? One of the things is like you seem like you want to ride a bike or play soccer or you want to play volleyball or anything. You go have fun. Go play, try to do something, try to get my neck, try to have fun. We play chess game. Use your weight. Try to do this. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:05 When you offense, try to use your offense. When you're on the board, try to use your defense. Try scapes, try counter my attacks. That's what's the fun about jujitsu. The reason is very addicted because it's a chess game with your own body. You play with your opening body and when you start to get good, you learn how to play your game with your own tools, your body, your mind, your hands. It's amazing. You get so addicted because when you realize you're asking today five guys or one hour, you probably sweat two geese or something like that, it's amazing workout. It's not just workout, it's fun. You're in an environment, you build friends around you. It's amazing. I do, you know, when I was growing up, I avoided things that bothered me. But as I got
Starting point is 01:12:58 older, I want to conquer the things that bothered me. I don't like needles. I can't stand fucking needles. So I go to acupuncture. I go to acupuncture for the last eight years. I go every Tuesday because I hate fucking needles. Every time they, today I looked at my knee and I had a thousand needles in my knee. I almost fucking fainted. But I didn't faint. I sat and talked. I don't like needles either. Oh, I sat and talked with her today. I spoke with her. She had the needles in here. And I was talking to her. I looked down and there was needles all over my leg. And I was sitting there going eight years ago, I would have fainted three times. The truth. I've never said this anywhere before. When I tore this meniscus, the left one, it was because I fainted at acupuncture.
Starting point is 01:13:39 She stuck a needle in me and my leg went out from under me. And I fell and I tore my meniscus. That's how I tore my meniscus. This one. Oh my God. I didn't tear it jumping or running. I tore my meniscus from fucking fainting. Wow. Now I don't faint no more. I go get blood. I look the other way. I put my eyeball. You overcome your fear. I have sleep apnea. You have sleep apnea? You know what sleep apnea is? You can't fucking breathe and you sleep. No, I'm okay with my sleep. You sleep like a rock. But sleep apnea, you can't breathe on your back. That's no good. Okay. Every time you're, like if I go to the doctor's office and he puts me on my back and he doesn't pop that thing up, I fucking have anxiety. Yeah, that's no good. So the other reason why I joined Jiu Jitsu was to
Starting point is 01:14:20 overcome that. Yes. You don't know what it's like when you have somebody who's over 200 pounds on top of you, you get anxiety. You know, now I don't get the anxiety no more. So I went to Jiu Jitsu to overcome those things. What happens if there's a fucking blackout and I can't sleep because of the sleep apnea machine? I don't ever want something to control me. So now because of Jiu Jitsu, I fall asleep on the couch at night. I forced myself. And I get up at two and I go to the bed and I put the machine on. But I forced myself to do that. That's why I go to Jiu Jitsu to breathe. I didn't like that fear. What if, what if? So now I went and I got hooked for other reasons. I don't want to choke nobody. I don't want to hurt nobody. Sometimes people say, you know, put your throat
Starting point is 01:15:03 on that thing. I agree with you. I haven't started for you after that. It's Jiu Jitsu, but I don't like it, especially with, you know, I always roll with John John guys. Those motherfuckers, they fucking pretend. When they, when they hip escape, holy fuck, you know, and I don't mind, I'm not a baby. It just looks like, you know, you're flashbacks as a kid. I have a story for you. I remember in Brazil, I have one private lesson. Just me on the guy in the room. And some like, he used a lot of strength, big guy, like business guy, older guy, but good acting and kind of bodybuilding. Nice guy, we're good friends, but I was teaching him. And when they mount on top of him, for some reason, he started to get panicked. Like,
Starting point is 01:15:55 get out of here on top of me. Get out. I want to get out of here. I don't want to be here. He said, you know what? Nope. You have to get out of yourself. He started pushing me, panic. When I punch him, everything, I hold his up. No, it doesn't matter. You punch or scream. You have to find the leverage to get out of here. You can do whatever is screaming. Just me and you here, nobody here. In case they happen outside on the street or happen in any situation in life, screaming is not going to help. You have to think about the solution. What to do here? What I taught you? Show them the techniques. Focus on the technique. Don't scream. Don't panic. Focus. Focus. It's like he started breathing, relaxing. It's like he escaped.
Starting point is 01:16:43 I remember he said, man, that was the best thing that ever happened to me. Because everything for me, I panic and get angry. I do this with my wife, with my work, and you gave me a lesson. I'm never going to forget because I realized over there in the room, I panic. And I want to do this, I want to do that. But I realized that's not the answer. I have to stop and focus for the solution. And I try to use now that for everything in life. I remember that class. I remember like, just me and you here in the room, I don't care you're screaming. You want to punch me, I hold your arm, get out of here. You know the answer. No panic is not the answer. Screaming is not the answer. You know the techniques. Focus. Because in everything in life,
Starting point is 01:17:36 it's going to have problems. You can't scream and jump and panic. Focus on the solution. Because again, until you use the semi-philos in everything you do, you're always going to find a good answer. That's, you know, for me, I got to be honest with you. I did martial arts when I was 15. And because of pussy and basketball and just life, I stopped. You know, the kids I went to martial arts with, we had a big camaraderie when you're 14. You go to karate movies, you go to eat Chinese food, you know, you eat the chopsticks. And they didn't smoke pot. They didn't do nothing. They didn't beat people up. You know, they didn't get into fights. So I stopped hanging out with the karate guys and my life changed.
Starting point is 01:18:24 10 years ago, I think 2006 was when I said that's it. I'm going to stop with the drugs. And I joined Kung Fu. And whether it was Kung Fu, karate, fucking whatever, I got something big from martial arts. I got something very big from it, you know. And now I push it to anybody, anybody who will listen. I don't give a fuck what you join. You want to go to the academy and see Hegan? Go to the academy and see Hegan. But I know Hegan and I know me. We just want you to be happy. If it's fucking Kempo karate, but you get something out of it. Because for me, you apply things from martial arts to life. You're absolutely right. For me, when I go see you and I drive up Laurel King and I'm not kidding you, that's when I go write my
Starting point is 01:19:06 best jokes. Because nothing could stop me. I just did something that is the hardest thing in the world to me. It's hard. Maybe to you, it's hard to go talk on stage in front of 300 people. For some people, it's fucking hard to make them laugh. I've had friends that have gone, Lee, come on up and they've run out of the fucking room. They're excited. Don't do that to me. Don't fucking do that. I don't like talking in front of people. I know actors, big time actors that will come to the comedy store. And I go to them. You want to go on stage and do 10 minutes? Fuck you. I would never do that. I'm like, you've done fucking movies. Huge movies. How can you not go on stage and talk to 10 people? They can't do it. Because you have to improvise and have all
Starting point is 01:19:48 kinds of stuff. You have to have all kinds of stuff. It's amazing that martial arts, if you have something going on in your life that's not working, I don't care what martial art you join. Somewhere along the line, that martial art will teach you things to apply things to your life. Somewhere. I believe is everything is very simple. You take life as simple. It's making easy for you. Like example, when they go to the academy, it's like I said, it doesn't matter what you do, not martial art. Whatever you do, if you love, they're going to love you back. You love to do comedy and do this and that. The comedy is going to love you back. I believe you do just for the money or just for these and that. It sucks. It's not the right
Starting point is 01:20:37 answer. Lee and I have been doing this podcast. We try to make it funny. We try to get it laughable. Some of the best podcasts we've had is when we talk about our life experiences. And to me, man, when I go do a comedy show, I got to tell you this, guys. When I go do a fucking comedy show, I want to see your show so bad. I get off stage and there's people that come up and they say, it's fucking funny. And you're right. Then you pick up your check and it's okay. But the best part of the night is when somebody comes up to you and you can see on their face, they're having a fucked up time. That's awesome. Something isn't going right with their life. Maybe they lost a girlfriend, maybe they lost a parent, maybe they had a shit day at work and
Starting point is 01:21:21 they look you in the eye and they go, bro, thank you for making me laugh. And I used to leave and go, what the fuck is that guy talking about? And now that's my number one thing. When I go do a show, people come up to me, hey, how you doing? That's great. But there's always one guy that comes up to me and I can see it on his face and he'll go, bro, I was having a bad fucking week. Thank you for making me laugh. That means more to me than a million dollars because I got to that guy. I did something to his soul. So you're right. You know what? I hate doing comedy for money. I fucking hate it. I fucking hate it. I hate coming after you afterwards and going, do you have my check? The best times I've had is when I go to a bar and get up on stage and just fucking talk
Starting point is 01:22:05 and I get off stage and that's the best because I don't have to deal with that. I don't have to worry about who's sitting in the chairs or what they're going to pay me or the check on the bounce. I just have to be, I just have to be fucking funny. That's it. That's the best thing. You know? We were talking when you come up here about the difference between Beverly Hills and any other place in the world that you've taught. Beverly Hills is a place like so unique for me. It's like what? Imagine like you grew up in Brazil. When do you hear about Beverly Hills? It's like a power place. Wealth is the most rich people in the world. When do you come to United States? You have a school in Beverly Hills. Just the name Beverly Hills. Like, wow,
Starting point is 01:22:55 I accomplished. I have my school in Beverly Hills. But Beverly Hills is something like even the students come over there. It's so different. The students used to have in Redondo Beach because the clients you get is not athletes, is not these, is not like a guys, young guys. The guys who come to you is 90% business guys, doctors, lawyers, actors, producers, directors. It's like a kind of level of clientele. We have to be very careful for they don't get hurt. You have to readjust the method you teach because the number one rule and follow not let people get hurt. You have to understand the physical level and how aggressive he is when he practices to go very easy to educate him a little bit more before I put them to train each other because
Starting point is 01:23:52 I follow a method. Let's build your knowledge and teach you how to train each other. It doesn't get hurt because in Brazil, growing up, I said let's put this guy on the fire. He gets a tough skin. Now we put him to beat people. It's like I remember how before you come a hammer, you start as an ape. People are going to beat you up. You get tough skinning. You wet it now to stop beating people up. It is a very tough method. Who works? You're going to get tough, but you can't do that in Beverly Hills. You do that in Beverly Hills. People get hurt because a lot of people never did any sport before. Some people being a businessman for all his life, it's unlike you put him to train hard. He will get hurt. That's why I have to go steps to a lot of knowledge,
Starting point is 01:24:48 dreams, and build up to appoint his way to start practicing, teaching him how to train without hurting each other, create a kind of culture. The number one is not to get hurt. How are you going to train? Everybody is part of everybody. In a way, nobody gets hurt. That's based on the culture I created in Beverly Hills. So far, being 100%, nobody got hurt so far. It's rumored that you're the jujitsu coach of the stars. Everybody says he's the fucking jujitsu coach of the stars. You have everybody. Everybody. I just the other day, I saw a tape of the guy from Fast and Furious saying he can be a child who changed my life. Vin Diesel? Vin Diesel. You got the other guy. You gave the blue belt. Two and a half men. Action culture. You got Duvau.
Starting point is 01:25:39 You got all these people. How do they fucking find you? Growing up in Brazil, the other passion I have, I love movies. I love every move. I grew up watching Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris. After these, I started following Van Dunne, Steve Seagal. Growing up, I watched all these major movies. In Beverly Hills, I start surrounding myself with actors, producers. They take me to parties, introduce me to some of the actors. The actors today are a big fan of fighting. Basically, the best feeling is like you meet the actor and the actor, I'm your big fan. Wait a minute. What's that? You're my big fan? I'm your big fan. For me, it's the best feeling in the world, like a given example. Mick Rook is a good friend of mine. He trained for me. For me,
Starting point is 01:26:36 he's one of the best actors ever. The other guy I love so much is Mel Gibson. I think Mel Gibson was the best director, actor. Basically, I end up to meet both. One day, Mick Rook was talking about how he liked Mel Gibson as a director, and Mel Gibson loved Mick Rook. I called Mick and said, Mick, let's have a lunch. I will call the group of Mel Gibson to come and we'll have a lunch and go to a Brazilian barbecue. He called me and said, let's go. Call them and see if they want to come. I called Mel Gibson's group and Mel Gibson came. The best feeling I ever had was to have a barbecue. Brazilian barbecue. I have Mel Gibson on one side and Mick Rook on the other side. Yeah, just sitting and listening to the conversation was an amazing time. It was one of my best times
Starting point is 01:27:33 to be around by these two great actors to listen to them, to talk about movies and things like that. That's what I love about Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills is a bridge for so many relationships, so many people. I feel very blessed to have an amazing school in Beverly Hills. Now, you also spoke about you're putting together a new school in Culver City. Culver City, I have a friend of mine named Chad. I met Chad 20 years ago. Chad was the double of Keanu Reeves in Matrix. He started doing stunts and fight calligraphy and came as stunt coordinator, second year director, and now he's a director. He just finished a movie with Keanu Reeves coming out in two weeks, John Wicker.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Pure action. He has a company called 8711. 8711 is specialized in fight calligraphy, stunts, actions. Everything related to action. They directed in action over 80 top movies from Ninja Turtle, Born in Supremacy, Ninja Assassin, movies. Some of the best action films ever seen. They had this powerhouse of stunt guys. Chad wanted to bring the best people in the world to come to this powerhouse place for stunts. I came to do the grappling. He basically was going to help the stunt guys he had to learn more Jiu Jitsu, to bring Jiu Jitsu more to the big screen. At the same time, I have the opportunity to teach some of the actors to do the same, to get better in the Jiu Jitsu, to start doing more ambars, more this, more that,
Starting point is 01:29:30 to bring a little bit more mixed martial arts for the films. At the same time, now we open school there, which the place is going to open probably a month. 8711 is the stunt group, but we're building a website that's going to come out soon. The next month, we're going to open school for the public after seven o'clock. We have classes over there for Jiu Jitsu, but it's a good group. It's going to be a good space. We have almost 3,000 square feet area for training. You're still going to keep the academy open. The Bethlehem is my baby. The other one, the Culver City is going to be a place for me to train stunts, open school. I bring a team of instructors to help me. It's going to be another place where I want to start building a good team of competition, because it's two different
Starting point is 01:30:29 clients, the Bethlehem used to the Culver City. I think the Culver City is going to be able to bring some of the competition back. I want to start building a team for competition. I think the one over there is going to be a good place to people who want to train very hard and want to compete. I have a question for both of you. You've done comedy for over 20 years, and you just said that you've done Jiu Jitsu for over 40 years. People's goals when they're working and everything is to master. You're a master, but I would imagine every day you're still learning. How often, for both of you, are you still finding something new in Jiu Jitsu or comedy? It's a good question. Like I give you an example for me. Right now, I create two new techniques on
Starting point is 01:31:21 the sport of Jiu Jitsu. Basically, you learn how to be this chess player who has a big experience training. So many people competing, build a lot of champs. You know a lot of stuff. I create these new games coming out. A lot of people don't even know. One is called the Handcuff. The other one is called the Higa Trap, which is a game I created. You're going to see how people start applying. The first thing I'm looking for is something called the seed. This is something you're going to plant, the first techniques. From that technique, I start playing around and find the branch, how we're going to grow this game. But you need to find the techniques, the first one. When I play this chess game, I see something very different. Nobody do it. I say,
Starting point is 01:32:13 wait a minute, what's this? Let me study this new movement. In that moment, I realize the seed techniques is the best feeling in the world. You start playing around and start creating a game around the technique you create. Nobody knows. And that's the best feeling. That's what you always learn. You always look sometimes at white belt training. You do something different. What did you do? And based through that, you feel so good because you realize you're never going to be a you always open your mind to keep learning. You never know enough. It's never going to be over. You're never going to one day you're not going to wake up and be like, I know all you did too. I don't think you ever because you just don't stop growing. The game always improves, always
Starting point is 01:33:02 have something new to learn. It's amazing. Let me give hold on one second. Let me give some shout outs. I'll get back to you here. Real quick, Frank Barker down there in Australia. I love you. Benny Perez, Phillip Body, Stay Black, Leon Vega Suarez, Joey's water bottle, and Metal Brad 42. The pumpkin bread was tremendous. I ate half of it and left the other half and Denver with some staff have helped that. You said something very interesting. I think you taught a little bit of the Hegan trap at the seminar. And then it was amazing. I go to the seminar and the guy that's sitting over here is Dan Inesanto. And again, I was feeling bad for myself. And he's 77 years old. 77. 77 and doing like little moves. So I left there like my head was going to explode.
Starting point is 01:33:53 What advice do you have for somebody coming into your school or Danny Jiu-Jitsu school? What advice do you have for a white belt that's going to listen to this today and go into a school tomorrow? I think the best thing the moment he's walking, he's already had a victory. He's already a champion because some just walking to have the action to go inside the academy want to sign up. For me, he's already in because from that it's just consistent. He keeps coming. He's going to fall in love with the sport. And the rest is going to be time. He's going to feeling health. He's going to feel, adapt a new lifestyle for himself. He's going to feel like build an environment who helps to desintox. It's like sometimes life is tough. Work the routine. Sometimes you do things
Starting point is 01:34:49 you don't like. I think when you come to a place like the academy to practice, to train, you forget about all the problems. Your stress is out. When you go home, you feel like a new guy or have a great workout. I sweat. I hang out. I talk to my friend. When you go to the academy, you're not talking about business. You're not talking about your problems. You go over there. You work out to have fun. You're talking about funny stuff. I think that's what the academy is good for a lot of people. It's not just go for land issues. Go over there to have friends. Go over there to get the stress and release because the academy is something positive. Something can help you to come a better person. Take advantage. You know, when I go into your academy or a YMCA, the lift weights,
Starting point is 01:35:40 I never bring my phone inside. I never bring my phone in because when I go to your academy, I just want to be a fat fuck. I don't want to be a comedian. I don't want to be a guy that does movies. I don't want to do nothing because on that mat, you're nothing. You're just and that's my philosophy. When I go there, it's my fucking hour heat or my hour 15 or my hour and a half because I leave everything at the door. I don't wear my comedy or additions to podcasts. I don't give a fuck. This is my fucking hour. This is my hour. The babysitter's got the baby. My wife is at work. If there's an earthquake, what am I going to do? You know, I'm here and I think that when I go into a place and I see somebody with a fucking phone, I feel bad. I go, you know what? I know
Starting point is 01:36:25 that they're probably busy but as a student I'm here to learn. I don't want to remember nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing. We had John Evan in here a couple of weeks ago. John Evan is a friend of mine. He's a brown belt, nice kid, very knowledgeable, very technical. And he said something here one day that, you know, a lot of people want to join Jiu Jitsu to be with Hegan or John John but he goes, then there's the Phil Jackson syndrome. You know, Phil Jackson was not a great basketball player. When I was a kid, they put Phil Jackson in the game. I turned the fucking game off and go to sleep. Fuck Phil Jackson. But he became one of the greatest coaches of all time, you know, in basketball, one of the best coaches. I go to your school. I went in your academy and
Starting point is 01:37:08 you taught me some stuff but then you have a guy named Dave. Who's tremendous? I mean, he is your spirit. You know, I've learned more from Dave in the two months I've been going there than I did in the whole fucking year. I mean, how long have you trained Dave for? When did you meet Dave? It's like, it's like almost like you raise a bunch of kids and these kids come the next generation of teachers in your school. David, I met him, who was a soccer player, this and that. I brought him to the academy. I like him because he's very patient. He loves Jiu Jitsu. The moment you get the instructor who has that love, he goes to the student, he gives his best to help the student to learn it, to improve, that's the kind of people and instructors I want to have at the academy.
Starting point is 01:38:02 This kind of environment, what I love, I want to have an environment like people there, they have a good time, the instructor love to teach, the students have fun. That's what is very addicted for me at the academy, to have the kind environment they are. He's, it's just very weird that you go there and he's great. I mean, the spirit, this guy techs me. You know, I wasn't going to go back this fast. I just had knee surgery. I wasn't going to go back for two months. He fucking techs me. He fucking techs me. Every Monday and Wednesday, are you coming to class today? He knew. He knew I had fucking knee surgery. He would hit me up and go, how's your knee? When are you coming to class? You got to love somebody like that. Monday, 10 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Monday and Wednesday, it's 10 o'clock. I got a text from him going, hey, bro, I'll be there at 11 o'clock. You training today? You're like, God damn it. You know, that's beautiful. It's beautiful that he called. Nobody fucking called me to ask me how my knee was. He called and said, how's your knee? I got some exercises come down. We'll put you on the side of the mat. That's what I like. I was looking for a reason not to want to go to Beverly Hills. Do you know that? I just wanted to go and say, I'm not going to go there no more because it's too far. I fucking love it. So thank you very much for taking me out of my comfort zone. It's an honor to have you at the Academy. It's an honor here to be on the show. I'm so thankful
Starting point is 01:39:41 for you guys. Give me a chance to express this life. I love your English, brother. Still, I'm going to work on the accent. No, you can't fuck the accent. It makes you international. Keep it. Yeah, keep the accent, brother. Listen, if you're listening to the podcast, do me a favor. If you're in the LA area, you're visiting. If you live here in the valley, whatever, come on down to the Academy of Beverly Hills or the new school in Culver City, the webpage will be up. Look for Hegan. You get two weeks for free at the Academy or at the new school in Culver City. Once it comes up, I'm having a great time going down on Mondays and Wednesdays. I know he has a class on Saturday and they have classes every night, either 7 or 815.
Starting point is 01:40:21 I think 815 is Tuesday and Wednesday, Thursday. Yes, 7-11 on Monday and Wednesday. Yeah, the website is Academy, the Academy, the Academy, Beverly Hills.com. And then the phone number is 424-274-3242. Just mention about the show and I give you guys two weeks for it. Just be sure you mentioned the church and ask for Hegan. Right? Yes. Ask for Hegan. You'll see him. He has the Gion all the time with the black and red belt. Real quick here, a little shout out to our sponsors for maximum optimization. Go to honet.com. Honet offers Hemforce Protein. They also have Alpha Brain. They also have New Mood and Stroom Tech and Immune and the other one. They have Alpha Brain and New Mood. But what's the Shroom Tech? Sport. They also have Kettle Bells. They
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