Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #231 - Joey Diaz, Rudy Sarzo and Lee Syatt

Episode Date: November 18, 2014

Rudy Sarzo, Musician and Bass Player who has played with Black Sabbath, White Snake, Quiet Riot, DIO and Blue Oyster Cult to name a few, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout. Iron Dragon TV. A New Roku channel with all the best martial arts films. Use Code words joey or church for two free rentals. HITecigs.com For a better tasting, longer lasting e cig go to HITecigs.com. Use Promo code joeyschurch for a 20% discount Naileditlife.com - Get 20% off a vapor pen by using code word joeydiaz. Music:  Jam on It - Newcleus I Wanna Be Around - Tony Bennet Party Train - The Gap Band Recorded on 11/17/2014

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Go. What's happening? Actually that's the original version. The original version. The one that are playing on is it's faster. It's got Steve Vai in it. Yeah, Steve Vai, you can hear it. Yeah. You always find the fucked up songs leaked like that. Oh, that's cool. It's it. Yeah, that was a little slow. I love this version. You like the slow version? I grew up playing this version, yeah. And I really love the feel of it because this is like a 70s vibe, which is what I grew up playing, you know, 70s music, you know, so it's got that really classic rock vibe to it. So by the time we re-recorded the song, the record company wanted it more modern. So, you know,

it has all these more of an 80s feel to it, but still is an awesome blue song. So what should I search for the newer version? Oh, it's just called slip of the tongue or Steve Vai. Is Steve Vai full for your loving? Because Steve Vai playing guitar on that one. On the microphone, Mr. Rudy Sarzo, the legendary Rudy Sarzo, Lisa, yeah, what's happening? I think I have it. Do you want me to play it? Yeah, yeah, just little differences. We're just fucking around. Oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, shit. Now, just do everything over. The vocals, everything. Or everything. Yeah, from scratch. Fuck it. Good enough for me. A little shout out, a little love for Steve Vai. He's going through some hard times right now. Right? He's going through cancer right now. Steve Vai? No. Somebody's

got cancer. I thought it was Steve Vai. Maybe I'm wrong. But if he is, hope not. Yeah, I just want to wish him good luck. He's a dear friend, you know, and, you know, he really takes great care of himself. He's a vegetarian, vegan. As a matter of fact, when we were playing together in White Snake, he turned me on. And I was a vegetarian for five or six years. You know, he turned me on into not, you know, food combining or not combining foods, you know, right? In the morning, just having juice and not combining your carbs with your proteins, you know, so your food digests better and stuff like that. So he really takes care of himself, you know, more than anybody I know. So maybe it's not him. I'm happy you're not a vegan no more. Cubans are not vegans, you know what I'm

saying? They try to slow it down a little bit. Like when the Cuban gets a heart attack, he'll switch it to turkey meat. I'll switch the fucking picadilla to turkey meat. But that's as bad as I get. That's as fuck that shit. What's up, Lisa? How was your weekend, buddy? It was good. You know what I'm doing a lot now? I've been on a diet for a few months, for like six months, and my girlfriend and I are getting sick of it. But I've lived in LA for like four years, and I've never really left the valley. Like other than working down in Santa Monica, I never left. So we took the train down to Japan Town or Little Tokyo in downtown. We walked for like 20 minutes. We found this like revolving sushi bar, like the place that goes around on the conveyor belt. We walked

around there. We went to a couple of Japanese bakeries and stuff. It was a lot of fun. Something different. You gotta get out of the valley sometimes. Because I mean, I've lived here for years. I haven't, I've seen like less than 1% of LA. So it was fun doing that. You can stale. I get stale. I get really stale. That's why I like fucking around and going along the beach for a laugh. Because I'll sit. I was just telling these guys that I'll sit at home not to lose a fucking parking spot. Like if it's between me losing this parking spot or me come out, I'll stay home. And especially like Tuesdays and Thursdays,

those motherfuckers double up on my block. Once you leave, I don't even know where these cars come from. It's like they pop from the ground up to some shit. Right. Well, I, when I didn't have a parking spot in my place, I would never, I would never ever leave. I don't know how you do it. I don't know how the fuck I do. But I had a great weekend. I went to Portland, Oregon. How was it? Fucking shows were great, man. I gotta tell you, I lived in the Pacific Northwest and it's always had this little cool feeling towards the Pacific Northwest. You know, Portland has really got it down. You know, Portland reminds me of the old Houston comedy scene.

Like that people were involved in it. Like the people went to bars and spoke about the guy performing. They didn't know his name. Just go down there and watch them. Portland has that feel to it. They don't need to know who you are or what TV show you're on or not that bullshit that comes with comedy. We heard you were funny. We're gonna come down here and check you out. You know, everybody brought me reefer and joints and fucking some guy brought the Russian kid, brought blueberry cake that was just brown from the THC. And I gave it out to the staff on Friday night and everybody got ripped. I came the next day and the manager's like, you can't be giving

that shit out to my workers here because the one girl was on the floor sleeping back there. So it was... Did you ever hear from the convenience store worker who you gave the gummy to? You gave the Gumi Sermonos gummy to like this poor lady? Oh, no, no. I haven't gone over there. I haven't gone over there to the spot. I'm going there tomorrow. I gotta meet somebody there for coffee. So I'll see you then. But it was just a great weekend. I really like Portland and I want to thank everybody who came. I want to thank Lisa who left me a little present for my daughter. She left me a beautiful little princess dress and a cute little shirt. And I want to always thank Greg and Lynn for always... They dropped off some medibles and whatnot.

So it was pretty nice. Well, it's really cool. Our guest is Rudy Sarzo. And you guys were talking before about Vegas. It must be really cool when you're like... You guys travel for a living. For a living. But I don't travel. Rudy traveled. Rudy got some freaking motherfucking fly amounts. But you get to go to different cities and go there a lot and get to know people. Yeah, you know, it depends on the band. Like when I was playing with Bluix or Colt, that was the last band that I was doing a lot of weekends, you know, which actually do make sense in today's climate, musical climate. The fact that if you can play Thursday through Sunday and go home on Monday and fly back out again on Thursday, you're fine. Because, you know, if you're going to be

playing Tuesday to Wednesday, there are going to be shitholes. You know, there are those gigs that you're just doing because you, you know, because if you don't play, you're going to be on the road staying in hotels. You know, there's going to be a tour bus to pay for. There's going to be the crew to pay for. So you just want... It's like a shark. You got to keep it moving. So, you know, so a band is the same thing. So if you take too many days off on the road, you start losing money. So my preferred way of touring, unless it's like, you know, a real, you know, high-end type of band, is actually just to do weekends. Because, you know, those are the prime gigs. Those are the A market or B market. And actually, the B market is what I consider now playing casinos,

because when you go into a small town, all of a sudden you realize that there's a casino right down the street. And it's actually one of the best gigs out there, you know. Do you do the same location for the entire weekend? Or do you go into an area and go like an hour away each day? No, I've actually done those. The residence, you know. I had a gig in Las Vegas about five years ago. It was called Monster Circus. Actually, we were right after Barry Menelow on that Elvis Theater, you know, at the Hilton. And I loved it. I loved it because, you know, you just get up there and you're staying at the hotel, you fly in. Again, it was one of those weekend things. You know, it was like from Thursday until Thursday, Friday and Saturday. I

think, yeah, Saturday or Sunday was the, you know, four shows a week. And the residents just go home and, you know, have a normal life. Now, how is touring, I was looking at you and I'm going, Jesus, I'm going to ask Rudy, how is touring chains in 20 years? Fuck it. I saw Rudy 31 years ago. You saw him play? Yeah, 31 maybe, right, 83. Well, actually, my first tour was in 81. So that's like 33. 81. 81. I saw it. Whenever they came to April to the Palladium. Which band? Ozzy. Oh, Ozzy. That's the first time I saw it. Yeah, that was 81. You played with Ozzy? Yeah. Who have you played with? Because, I mean, because it's so far, you've played with Ozzy Osborn, White Snake. Oh my God. Dio and, uh, Lois are called, that I just, yeah, I just mentioned. And who were you recently? Yeah,

the Jeff Tate version of Queen's Rite. Queen's Rite, okay. Yeah. It's so funny that how has it changed in 33 years? Like when you first started with Quiet Riot, let's say. Quiet Riot opened for Ozzy for, oh no, Quiet Riot opened for somebody for a while, the thing. Oh God, we open up for everybody from ZZ Top, to Scorpions, to Iron Maiden, to Loverboy, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest. Now, in those days, did you have a wife? No, that was 83. So I got married in 84. So 81, how was touring then? You toured every fucking, because I remember like looking at a band schedule, like for me, they would do Philadelphia on Wednesday, Newark on Thursday, and then shooting to New York on Friday or Saturday. But I also know that there was no like fucking Sunday through

Thursday off. You guys were right back at it. We were always on the road. There was a circuit that you would play the A-Markets, like where you're talking about the Philadelphia's and the New York City and, you know, but then we had the B-Markets, which were towns that had hockey arenas or B-Market, you know, like the minor league hockey arenas, those were great venues, you know, and so we would do all of those, you know, and it was great because we were really never off. And you really don't want a night off, you know, 33 years ago, having a night off meant that you're going to wind up, you know, the next day with a huge hangover because there's nothing to do. 33 years ago, you check into a holiday and it was a home box office,

which really was a box. It was a box with a roll with a string on it with three levels. Yeah, and you have basically HBO and whatever channels they had, you know, local channels. That was it. That was your entertainment. So your our Facebook was actually going down to the bar, you know, to meet the fans and the crew and the other band that we were touring with. That was our social networking was going down to the bar. So it meant that you went out the whole night drinking, you know, and that really affects you after a while, you know, being on the road. So, you know, we had all those distractions. We don't have that anymore. You know, we can actually be very creative because we have all the technology

available to us. You know, the same technology that allows our music to be stolen gives us the freedom to create more. Isn't that ironic? But it's it's weird how I used to see those schedules like how is touring chains? I mean, even with me, when I went on the road 15 years ago, I went on the road with one thing in mind to do jokes and to get hot, to get fucked up. I didn't know when I was coming back. Yeah, I had a plane ticket for Sunday at three in the afternoon. But I didn't know if I was going to make that plane or not because I was going deep on Saturday night. I was going deep on Friday night. It didn't matter to me if I got a movie, it didn't matter. And now, Jesus Christ, I'm to the fucking dime. Like I'm to the dime. Like I gotta be on a they're picking

me up at 415 Thursday morning. I'm better eight o'clock Wednesday night. You know, I get off the plane, I go whatever I do to Philadelphia, take a shower, I relax. When the old days, I would go right out. I would just throw my clothes in the fucking room and shoot out to do something that had no meaning. No meaning until 630. I go home, take a shower and go to the show. Then I wonder why I'd bomb. Why did you bomb? Because you haven't relaxed. Your mind hasn't stopped. You haven't taken a minute for yourself. I go out that night, get fucked up, and that's the whole weekend. There was no creativity. There was no, it was just doing the shows. I didn't even look at a notebook. I wouldn't even bring a notebook with me. How could you continue with your career bombing?

It was about, it was a 50-50 shot every night. It was a 50-50 shot. And it didn't matter because after the show, I was no longer fucked up and get my dick sucked. So the bombing didn't really, I was bombing. This was my mentality then. I was bombing in a place where it didn't matter. I was trying out a new joke. I wasn't, I wouldn't go prepared. It was just a horrible one. But then I got better and better. I got better about it and I would bring a notebook and stuff. And some nights I would write, coked up, like I would actually get coked up and write or make believe I was writing. It was, it really was a disaster. And then, but I still made progress. It was, or in my mind, I thought I made progress. I started headlining. Obviously, I started headlining me.

I didn't take it, the addiction was the whole thing. To get away from, at the time, my girlfriend, because I couldn't get high around her. Not that that stopped me. But it was just to get away from her to go and get high. I remember I used to do two weeks in Texas from 2003 to 2006 or 2002 that Club owner would headline me over the holidays. And I would do two weeks every night, Rudy, every night. I remember, I just, the other day, I just, a cold case was on. You know, I showed cold case that was on for a moment. I'm on one of the episodes. I shot that on the Monday after the holidays. You know that two week break you have? Like I had to shoot that like January 4th. And I came back that January 3rd. I wish you guys looked that episode up and see how big I am.

I had to be 420. That's when I was walking around at like 410. But after those two weeks, I was just, you could see it. You couldn't even see my eyes from the bloating, from being bloated, from all the eating salt, eating restaurant food, french fries, you know, not taking care of myself. And now it's completely different, Rudy. Now it's completely different. I got a question for you because, you know, I used to play with Sam Kinnison. You know, we shared the same management. I played on his record. We became friends. I went to a lot of his gigs. And what he used to do was at the end of the show, he would bring out a band. Right. Most of his buddies, you know, kind of like an old star band, we would do Wild Thing. I actually

played on that record and it was in the video. And I remember him going out on stage really messed up. I mean, like, you know, drunk and, you know, coke and, and he would bomb. But people would still show up. It was crazy. You know, maybe it was like to see a train record. It's like the same thing. Who's the chick that died two years ago? I don't want to go to rehab. At the end, at the end, you knew the bitch was either going to cancel, be fucked up, sing a song and give you the finger and leave. People still pay the 120 to go see it. People love a train. Is it different with bands? Because with comedy, it's only you talking. So like, would it be easier to tell if you were messed up? Oh, please. Yes. And then, but I would imagine being fucked up messes with, with playing music.

It must. Oh, yeah, yeah, you can play and be screwed up. No, no, it's impossible. Especially if you're playing some quality music. You know, I mean, I can tell you because I, I experienced that. I mean, there was a show in Kansas City one time I was playing with Ozzy and Ozzy used to like take, take B12 shots. So the promoter could only find a dentist that would come to administer the B12 shots backstage. You know, so the guy goes over to me on the side right before I was going on stage and say, Hey, you want to bump? And you have, remember the old days, there was this little bottles. Yeah, a little carburetors. It was like, like, what do you call those? It was like a little bullet. Oh, and you turned the thing around. And then you turned it

around again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What the hell is a doctor? You know, it must be someone like, you know, really good, you know, prescription, you know, cocaine, I guess, you know. So I, I did it was the only time that I've ever did it, you know, on, you know, with Ozzy going on stage. And I'm telling you, I spend half the show, I just, I just wanted to like not die. It's terrible. It's awful. It's terrible. I would, with all these problems I had, I did have one piece of thing that kept me together. March 17, 1992, I got on stage, coked up. I never got on stage, coked up ever again. Why do you remember the date? Because I bombed that bad. It was too different. I thought that, wait a second, if I do two lines, I'm gonna

get chatty. And I'm gonna go up there and just chit chat. I'm gonna be fucking great. Nobody's figured this out yet. Richard Pryor figured it out saying, Kenison got it. And now I got it. And I went on stage because the cocaine cuts your heart from your material. It cuts it. That's why you can't be funny. Yeah, you'll get away with some jokes. There's some jerk-offs that laugh, but you don't sell the joke. The joke isn't being sold. It's just like reading a book. So you went out and you, whatever. That's what it felt like to me. I could tell if I did too much coke the night before, it would affect my stand-up. Even if I didn't do coke the whole day, it would affect my stand-up. I couldn't control my mind. Was it like a hangover?

Yeah, it was like a hangover, but it was like a mental. Your heart and your mind aren't connecting your mouth and your heart and your soul are not connecting. It's very weird to explain. See, in addition to affecting your physically, I mean, your emotions, it affects your body. It's like it affects the blood flow to your ears. So you start to hear more bass than treble. And if you're on stage and somebody's doing blow, they're just going to start turning around and saying that you're playing way too loud, where you're just playing at the same volume as you always play. And there are certain records that if you go back in the 70s and you listen to them and the bottom is gone, it means that they spent the night mixing those records. And

to overcompensate, they lower the bass, the bottom end of the record. So it sounds like sizzling like a lot of highs. They were on blow when they were mixing that. And a lot of records were mixed like that back in the 70s because you had a deadline. You had to spend so much time recording and the record company says, listen, we're coming back tomorrow to pick up the record, the mix record, and then we'll take it a master and then release it. So a lot of these guys were under the gun. Because if you're going to do a mix at night, you're going to take you two weeks to do it. And sometimes you just didn't have two weeks. You would have like maybe one week. So you're trying to compensate by just staying up long

enough to do two mixes a day. I just read on YouTube about a month ago, they had a campaign about volume four, the album Black Sabbath. And what the whole part of it was that the first four Black Sabbath times, I guess were recorded in one night. Like the first one one night, the second one one night, I don't know how true it is, whatever they were saying. How does that happen? How do you fucking go into a, I mean, I always want to be a musician. Easy, easy, easy. Because don't you have to, all right, so let's say snow blind. All right, Rudy, we're doing snow blind. One, two, three. First of all, we don't even do it together. You lay the bass first. No, no, no, no. How do you do it? Not like that. Back in the day,

back in the day, a lot of the bands would go on the road and they would do all these, you know, they played everywhere. Back in the day, you start your tour like in Stockholm or somewhere in Scandinavia and you do like a Scandinavian tour, which means that you're testing your material to go into studio in a couple of weeks, right? So you do all these tours to get the band tied and get paid for it. That was like pre-production. And then you go into studio and then you do like one or two takes of each song and you're done. You're done. Like in the days when people used to record in the same room with a really good engineer that knew how to mic everything and yeah, that's the way it used to be done. No, lay your track, lay

your bass line. So like I read the one Aerosmith book, the one from 98 when they talked about how much they hated each other and in 75. So Joe Perry would go down and do the guitar. Like they had to sign a sheet. They all lived in the same house, but they had to sign a sheet to go into the recording studio one at a time. They wouldn't get along. So everybody, the drummer went. So did you play the song first and everybody left? And then you redid your bass lines and he did his guitar. Was that how it was done? Because I'm fucking confused here. Yeah, listen, if you read about the Beatles, that first record they did with George Martin, they actually did that in one day. They did. And it was like 14 songs, 15 songs, because in America

we would get 10 songs per album. But in the UK release, it was actually the full record, the 15 songs or whatever they happened to record. And I think that what happened was in America, engineers and producers, they either got started getting picky or lazy because the guys back in Europe, in England, all those English engineers and producers, they had it down. They knew. I mean, I've worked with some of those guys and then over, look, it got so bad that you had to spend one day just to get a snare sound back in the 70s. If you were going into to make a record, it was a given that the first day was just drums and you would spend most of the day just getting a stupid snare sound. Come on, you know, just put, if you know, if you know what you're doing,

you just put maybe three mics, the best setups I've ever played with, just three mics, one on the kick, one on the snare, one overhead. And that's it. Most of the classic rock records we listen to, that's the way that they were recorded. And then either direct or both, you know, you amp, you put a mic on the bass amp and direct and then, you know, you'll get isolation rooms. You know, all the students were designed like that. So you isolate your amplifiers or the case of like where the stones used to record, you know, they did exile on Main Street in a house that Keith Richards rented in the south of France, you know, and they took the basement and they just, you know, make baffles to separate the amplifiers. And that's how they did it, you know, and they,

those are classic albums. They have a vibe. They have soul to it. You know, we were talking about the soul and your material when you're delivering it. That's what's missing when you start separating people. And, you know, one guy, I do a lot of records nowadays in my pajamas at home with my little dog watching me because they send me the tracks. Are they, are they going to be timeless records? No, no, no. To me, a timeless record, everybody has to be in the same room to actually, to record that. What's, is it, is it like a feeling? Is it like, like, kind of like the room has like a, like when the band's playing together, is it like? Oh, right now, right now, we're experiencing it. Okay. We, you and I, we did a podcast. It's way different this one because

I'm looking at you. You're looking at me. We're, we're communicating in the same room. You know, it's not like me at home with my telephone, you know, my cell phone talking to you, calling in. Okay. Yeah. It was good, but it doesn't have that, that intimacy that we're having now. You know, it's amazing. We were talking about a band, how you have so many different personalities to deal with. And you were saying how lucky I was because when you do comedy, it's just you in the microphone. You just got to show up at a bar, plug it in and fuck it. You go crazy. For a guy like me, when I was growing up, I read all those magazines. I read Circus. And I read about recording sessions. And I, and I, and my dick used to get hard. Like just,

you know, the stones go into Jamaica. Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? Everybody going to Jamaica for two months. You know, whether we like each other or not, we got a big bag of reefer. We fucking get a couple of black chicks and we start, you know, whatever. To me, that was phenomenal. Exile on Main Street. Now, what happened next? It wasn't somebody owed money. It wasn't somebody owed money. That's why they were hiding. That's why they were in France. Somebody was looking for you. Richard was looking. Somebody was looking for somebody. You know, I mean, there's a documentary about it. And they touch on it lightly because it was basically a documentary, Exile on Main Street documentary. If you got Netflix, you can watch

it on that. It was basically about the making of the record. But, you know, it was a, they were tax right. Tax. It was tax. Yeah. Tax. Because in England, if you made a certain amount of money, if you stayed in the country, you had to pay so much taxes. So if you make the record somewhere else, you know, you're not going to be hit with all those taxes here. Do you prefer working solo or with the group? Because I've worked with a few comedians and comedians don't really tour that much together. Some of them do, but not really. It's like a single person. I would imagine with a five or six person group. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A company is more like boxing. Yeah. It's only like two guys in the ring at the time. You know, it's a men, you know, one-on-one, you know,

a band is really a team support. But how often does it go bad? Like how often do people hate each other and fight about money? How many teams? How many, name a sport? I mean, is there any happy team? No, of course not. I mean, there's something going on because everybody, we're talking about this. That's the crazy factor. You have to be crazy to do what you do, Joey. I mean, it's, you know, no, I've always known. I spoke to my wife about last night. I was talking, we were talking about something. She goes, is that person Joey Diaz crazy? Or the other crazy. And I go, Joey Diaz crazy. He's crazy, but he's not like hearing voices and shooting people. I mean, you know, to be crazy doesn't mean to be evil. Right. No, no, no, no. It's just like outside of the box,

you know, you're doing, you got dreams and you just go for them, you know, you're not going to listen to, to everybody else telling you, oh, no, because you're, you're whatever you are, you're never going to make it and, and whatever. So you leave town because you want to get away from these people. And you wind up whatever you think the, the, all the opportunities are. To me, it was LA, you know, because the record companies were here and all the musicians that thought like-minded were here. So I joined a band and I slept on the floor and I, you know, and I did all this crazy shit, you know, that if I look back at it now and go, oh my God, how did I have the balls to do all that? And I, but I did, you know, and again, if you lose that edge, that craziness, you're in

trouble because you're going to, you're not going to move forward. You're not going to progress. It's the craziness that will keep you going forward, getting better, getting crazier. I always thought when I got off drugs that my comedy was going to be done. That was one of the reasons towards the end I didn't want to get off the blow or nothing. And then I thought about it and I was like, wait a second. I always, always fucking crazy. I just went to Miami and I saw people, they were holding Los Santo Mio for 35 years. They held a bunch of my stuff, t-shirts and trophies and, and I went down and I started talking to her and I said, you know, I was going to your house on 140 A Street. And she goes, whenever I met you, she goes, she goes, when you called,

I started thinking about you, you know, and our evolution, you know, she was 18 and I was six when I met my godmother's daughter. We all got back together. And I used to go to 140 A Street and she goes, you were a quiet fucking kid. She goes, you built models. She goes, you had million fucking models. She goes, you will lock yourself in a room and put on music and, and, and build models all fucking day. Then I was three, four models in a day. It was brilliant. You paint them and like this. I don't remember. I really don't remember like a little thing. And she goes, but then you got hit in the head with that lunchbox. And that was the beginning of the end. She goes, not that the lunchbox made you crazy. You just didn't like it. It brought

the real inside of you out. You were scared. You were timid. You didn't know the language. She goes, but once they hit you in the head with that lunchbox that day, everything changed. She goes, you became aggressive. You became, you got stitches and even in the hospital, I remember you told us that night at dinner at your mother's bar, you said, this will never happen to me again. Nobody will ever hit me in the fucking head with a lunchbox. In fact, I'm going to hunt them down tomorrow. And they all looked at me like, you can't go hunting these kids down in Central Park. And I went to Central Park by myself. And then when I moved to Jersey, I was so insecure about being Cuban that the first day I went out,

there was a fight. And I knew for me to get through to these guys, I had to jump in that fight and stick up for this kid that was getting beat up by himself. As crazy as it was, he was one kid against eight. That's as crazy. Bruce Lee can't do that shit. But in the back of my mind, I knew, I knew for me to get into this neighborhood. I had just come from New York City, where there was a couple of Spanish people, Puerto Ricans, whatever in the neighborhood. I was moving to North Bergen, New Jersey in 1960, 1970. There's not too many Spanish people. They were in Union City. They were that way. And they were in West New York. They were in North Bergen. So that I lived in that house for a year before I went out. Do you know that? A year I lived in that house.

I would always go to my mother's bar in Union City. I wouldn't go play with the kids in the neighborhood. And my mom would tell me, you gotta go play. And one day I left with my white clothes on because I used to dress like, you know, my mom used to dress me in white with the white sneakers with a gold chain. And I went around the corner. I heard them yelling and screaming. And I jumped in and backed that kid. And my life is, I never looked back. I always had to follow that mentality. I always had to be fucking nuts. But what people didn't know was that I wasn't trying to be nuts. I really was fucking nuts. You know, it just came to me natural. And then as I got older, I got the Cuban in me. And I worked very hard to get that Cuban man out of me. The jealousy,

the quick reaction, the hand. My hand would come up first. I wouldn't even give a fuck. I come flying through a window. I worked hard to get that out of my system. Like I really had to work hard to get the Cuban. What do you call it? The Cuban also out of your system. Because it was going to take me down. It still takes me down. That's why I avoid a lot of different situations. You know, we're going to have Steve Byrd on the podcast. He had a couple of weeks and he called me this year to ask me if I wanted to do his show. And I thanked him because I got the last time I saw you. I was very crazy. I went at somebody at the comedy store. And as they were breaking us up, I remember looking and it was Steve Byrd. And looking at his face, come on. Holy fuck, this guy's

nuts. And my anger wasn't towards Steve Byrd. But him seeing me in that situation always made me very embarrassed in front of Steve Byrd. I never wanted to see Steve Byrd again. If he wouldn't have called me, I wouldn't have been his friend anymore. Because he saw me. It's like the night I stuck up for Marilyn, my friend died. And somebody kept torturing her when she was alive, this fucking producer from LA. And at the wake, he showed up to the wake. He had the balls to show up for the wake. You know me, Doug, that's my fucking realm. I'm from the world that I died. If you're going to come, how are you going to bust somebody's balls when they're alive, then walk into his wake. Not when I'm alive. Not at my fucking clock.

And I went off and that reputation followed me in LA. People don't mess with me because I went off. I made the guy leave. I told him, I'm going to get off the stage. When I got off the stage, I'm going to go, you're returning your wife. And I meant it. I didn't care. In my world, where I come from, that's, I'm fucking nuts. But I work very hard. For people don't see that, I work very hard. I avoid a lot of contact with people. I already know this. I knew this at 30. I knew when I got out of prison, that was one thing for me to do what I was doing as a comedian, that I had a combat down because, and that's why I avoid it. I avoid it. Number one, number two, when something happens, I attack that situation right off the bat. So it doesn't

eat away at me. Can't eat away at me because if I let it eat away, you know, I see you, then it's going to be bad for you. It's going to be really fucking bad for you. So I can't let it eat away on me. I really can't. I get fucking hot. So I got to call you at your house and go, Ape Dog, this is the situation. And if you hang up on me, then I'm going to go to the house and light it on fire. That's how crazy I am. That's how fucking nuts I am. And it's just, I don't want to hit nobody. I just don't want nobody going to eat. I don't like, I'm from old school. You don't even, if, what's the, my favorite line in the Godfather's, they should have met, they should have stopped him with a Munich. They, if they would have stopped the Munich,

we wouldn't have had this fucking problem. But, and that's what I'm, that's why I go crazy. And I've worked very hard to eliminate that from my life, you know, to eliminate that, uh, whatever. So that's the craziness I have, but it's a thin line. It's the same craziness that fueled me to keep doing what I do because my thing that fuels me is improving a fucking point to you. I'm proving a point that when we went and told people that we were going to be comedians, they told me I was a felon. They told me I was too old. They told me it was too hard. They told me a thousand reasons why, but I believed in myself. And I also believed that if they knew about my life and who I was inside, it would help me. And that's, that craziness is what keeps me

waking up every morning to prove my point, that anybody could do what the fuck I do. You know, everybody tells you you can't do this, you put limitations on yourself. This one I got in the car, I was going to go to jujitsu. And, and the car this morning, I was talking to myself out of it already, talking myself out of it. But then that Cuban voice that says, I've seen God and all those bad words came and I fucking shot down the Beverly Hills. So that crazy, you're right. That crazy is what fuels me. What brought the conversation up was we had lunch one day and you had said to me that in the music business, there's a thin line between mental health and the artist. And it's the same thing in comedy. I mean, you're right. What makes somebody get up and say,

I'm going to fucking live three or four years in this life of sleeping in floors, you know, and everybody's done it. If you listen to the roses, slag, you know, aerosol, everybody's fucking paid that price where you got to eat a bug one day. You got to eat a Coke snot. That's it. That's all there is. That's it. Yeah. But you know what? Like, like you, you know, I know you and I used to hang out with Sam Kenneson and a bunch of other Jimmy Schubert, Jimmy Schubert and comedians and all you guys are as crazy as you are. You guys are the nicest people, most generous people I've ever known. Sam, which out of his mind, generous. I mean, like beyond, I mean, it was like embarrassing generous, you know, type of a guy. So it's again, going back to being crazy,

it's not about being evil. None of that at all. Not knowing any boundaries. No boundaries. You know, you're limitless to what you really want to achieve in life. You know, you've had a night that Sam and Billy, I don't want to. Oh, God, I was on stage. What happened? What the fuck happened? Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas is very simple. Sam was, you know, he used to do two shows a night. So on the first show, he hadn't gotten to sleep for about two or three days, you know, so we were up in suite. Lenny Bruce's mother mom was there because she was always hung out with Sam. And you know, and the whole gang, the Carl and Bob Mitchell, Walt is Alan Stefan. Yeah, all those Jimmy Schubert guys. And so Sam used to bring on stage Sabrina

and Malika who became Malika became his wife and Sabrina was his sister-in-law, right? And it would be dressed like showgirls, you know, Las Vegas showgirls outfit with the feathers because they used to be showgirls before they met. So we're on stage doing, playing a wild thing, you know, the song and Billy Idol is there, you know, and he's on stage doing his Billy Idol thing and he starts grabbing Malika and Sam, which has, you know, he went nuts, you know, so we get off the stage, go back up to his suite and he's like throwing shit around and he's just like going insane. He's like saying, next time when the next set, I'm going to fucking deck up, you know, on stage, you know, all of that. So second show comes around and he does his

comedy and then we do our song and Billy was gone. But his sidekick was there. So Sam just decked his friend because he couldn't get to Billy. And that was, and that's what happened. Caesar's palace. That must have been fucking, listen, the reason why I got into comedy was after I read the Lenny Bruce book. I was wafering. Like I was wafering. I didn't know what I was going to do with my life. I was leaning towards comedy. But once I read, ladies and gentlemen, I knew it was for me. And when I was seeing all that, I mean, when I was watching Sam go crazy, and I knew he had the outlaws and the craziness and the fucking hotel and the crashing cars, that was another part that lured me to this craziness. It really is craziness. When you were there, when you were

part of this, were you looking around saying to yourself, this is just insane. This guy's a comic playing fucking music. And it was more insane than any musician I've ever been around. Yeah, it was beyond rock and roll. It was comedian crazy, richer prior stuff, you know, level. And you're talking to a guy who was in the same band with Ozzy. I played with Ozzy, but no, Sam Kinnison was more crazy than Ozzy. I can't even imagine that shit. This morning, I was driving and they were talking about the Pink Floyd album, the new Pink Floyd album. Did you hear it yet? I haven't listened to it. But the beauty of it was that two weeks ago, that fuck Roger Waters came up and said, I have nothing to do with this album.

And you have in a band, you have these four people, and there's always this one little ego that floats around, but he controls it or he doesn't. To me, these egos destroy the music business with their craziness. One is Roger Waters. I don't know. I've never met David Gilmore. I don't know how crazy he is or the rest of the guys. I don't know what happened, but I know it. When I think of crazy ego, I think of Roger Waters and I think of Sting as much as I love Sting and as much as I love the police, you know. What I mean, do you know? I mean, how the fuck does this happen that your importance? Because when I was thinking about like Sting, for example, like, so you're that important that

you're going to break up this band and take away from us fans for your ego. The same thing with Roger Waters. And then the fucking guy goes, you know, I don't know what David Gilmore says. I don't know. He goes to release this album and Roger Waters says I have nothing to do with this album. That's just now my instrumentals, right? I don't even know if you know about it. It doesn't fucking matter. You know, people like that is just I have never heard what the voices in their heads are saying or what they sound like. So it's kind of hard for me to be put myself in that position. Because there's going to be some crazy motherfuckers going on in his head telling them shit. Well, I mean, it's kind of rose talking to asking earlier, like, if you were in a band,

not maybe not you, but don't don't think a comedian, since always by themselves, like if you were suddenly in a band with a group of people, don't you think that ego would have the same thing would happen? I think I'm surprised it doesn't happen more. I don't know. I got a question for you. Do you consider yourself an artist? Me? Yeah. Yes and no. Because that's a problem with musicians. Most of them who consider what this is art, what I'm doing, and I'm not doing it to please the audience, I'm doing to please my artistic intentions or vision. Do you ever go on stage like that?

No. No, never. That's why I don't like the word artist as much as it's used, especially in this town, especially in life. I'm an artist. So for me, when you say you're an artist, that means you got to trust fun and your parents send you money every month and you get to try different shit every month. That's what you're telling me. When somebody says artist, my ears always go up and I look over at a coffee shop because that's where I hear that. Yeah. When I think of an artist, I think of Van Gogh. I saw one painting to his brother. His lifetime and cut his ear off. No, I think of if somebody refers to themselves as that, but I get the art and I get what I'm doing as an art and because of that, maybe I'm an artist

because a stand-up is set up punchline, joke telling, and storytelling. I take that and I mix it around. That's the art. When you learn to play the bass. But we learn to play instruments so we can deliver a message and a message, there's a structure just like you have in your storytelling. It's the same thing with the song. There's a structure to it. So there's definitely an art to being a comedian because you're telling a story, you're conveying, you're putting people in a state of hopefully happiness when you tell your jokes. And from the moment there's a middle, I mean, there's a beginning and middle and an end to your act. So there's an artistry to it just like being a musician. But I don't think

you take it as seriously as a lot of these guys. No, no, no, no, no, no. I consider art like the first instrument I ever played was the bass. I learned the pastoral music. I didn't like the bass because it was boring as fuck until I watched you play it. Then I wanted to go sign up again. Do you understand me? Yeah, it's your, that's what I call the artist, your interpretation of what I just showed you. There's a thousand front kicks. There's a thousand front kicks, but the way you throw it, that's your art. Well, it's because I went to a lot of shows in Miami and I saw like Miami was a really a unique place to play back in the seventies because it was either the beginning of your tour or the end of the tour because logistically,

a lot of the bands that came from England, you know, Europe and England will come in and bring their equipment through the port, you know, Florida, the old Miami port. That's how they brought their gear. So they will either begin the tour there and they will rehearse at the sporatorium for a week. And, you know, so you either saw the first show, which was really not the best of their tour, or you saw the last show that traditionally a last show with English bands, they used to pull all these gags on each other. They would like throw whipped cream and get ahead with eggs during the set and stuff like that. So you either, so either ways, you were going to see a pretty shitty show because it was going to be the first show or the last show of the

set. So I saw a lot of boring performances from a lot of guys that were really high because a plus in addition to that was the drug capital of the world at that time in the seventies, you know. So they were like high on blow heron or or or booze or all of them at the same time. So I said, you know what, I never want to be one of these guys. You know, the guys that just stood up there and and just they were basically like, you know, mannequins on stage playing because they were they were so high now because they were bad, but they were they were just so high at the time. Yeah. So that's why it's fucking crazy. See, for a long time, I thought they started a lot of tours in Philly for years. I would look at the schedules and I would see tours starting in Philly

and I thought it was because Philly is such a rough place to play. You want to get out of the fucking way. That's what I always thought. I didn't know why because I seen the Stones in Philly and it was the first night of that tour and I seen AC DC at the Palladium and there was a second night of that tour and they started in Philly. So I'm like, oh, I never even thought fucking bands played in Miami instead. How hard is it to tour? Because I've been lucky enough to go with Joey for a couple weekends and I'm not even performing, but leaving on Thursday morning, coming back Sunday morning, I don't know. I'm exhausted. Like I can't imagine doing a month on a on a bus going to radio on do you do radio or do you just sleeping all day and then doing the show? It all depends

the quality of people that you're touring with as human beings. If you can really have fun and really respect and vice versa, they'll respect you. You could have the worst, you could be playing the worst shitholes, but if you really love the people and really love the music, it doesn't really matter where the conditions are. I've been in some great traveling conditions with some tours and people that I have not, I would just wish and couldn't wait for it to be over just because, you know, to me, the most important thing is the quality of the people that you're touring with, really not the accommodations. Oh, you're right. You're absolutely right. What was the most fun you had on the tour? No drugs, just fucking guys getting together and jamming and you know,

yeah, I, you know, it's nothing helps come close to to the significance of the Blizzard of Oz Diary of the Mad Men tour with Randy and Ozzy. Well, actually both, you know, yeah, and Tommy. Yeah, every night on stage was the Super Bowl every single night. The quality and of course, you know, we had the tragedy happen to us. I would say second will definitely be either white snake or deal because I really love touring with Ronnie. Ronnie was my god. Was he really from New Jersey? No, Cortland, New York, upstate New York. Upstate New York. Well, he lived in New Jersey or something. Somebody said they saw him once in New Jersey. I'm like, come on. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it because after Rainbow, he came back to the U.S. and

lived in the Northeast, you know, and then he moved back to LA when he then started Black Sabbath. You know, up to that. It's funny because you talk about the Super Bowl or whatever, but on the other side of that, I still remember buying a cream magazine and reading how Black Sabbath had just broken up and it was fucking traumatizing. Like it was just traumatizing. I couldn't even think. Like, yeah, like Led Zeppelin, that one's the Jonathan Led Zeppelin died. There was a point where I was just lost. You know, my mother had just died. The music and the reefer was everything. And all of a sudden, you know, Black Sabbath broke up and I'm reading this cream magazine in February, freezing my ass off that they broke up. And all of a sudden,

John Lennon gets shot, you know, and I go to Blika Bobs in the city, this fucking tremendous record store. And I find this EP by the Blizzard of Oz and it's four songs, maybe, you know, 81. Yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck? And listen to me. And I'm telling you guys, this is the people I went with, I could call them right now and have them call in, you know, this was everything to us. Well, you probably got the UK first. I got the four songs. That was in 1980 because in 81, that's when they actually released Blizzard Blizzard in the States. So it was John Lennon got shot December racism. December. So it was December or whatever. When I went to the city, they were doing something at Strawberry Fields, whatever. I didn't go that way. I went into the

village. In fact, when I go see, no, no, I was a different. I went to the village and I got that, that EP. I just found it by mistake. It wasn't that I was looking for it. Or I knew about it. And then in Cliffside Park, New Jersey, there's a place called Things from England. They're still Steve. Steve Lang, Steve Lang. They're still there. In fact, you've seen it. It's next to Rudy's. Rudy's fucking Rudy. It's up the block. Or the guy who won the place, Steve Lang. He passed away a few years ago, but it was a really good friend of my brother, Robert and me. He's still open. Yeah. It's still open. I think that's where I bought the Ozzie tickets. That's where I would buy everything because he always used to buy a block for himself. So he'd tell you, if you're in a

bind, come open. I'll try to hook you up. I know friends. Great guy. Great guy. This is fucking crazy. But I just said that. Things from England. I bought so many things there. I bought so many, like UK releases there, you know, as a child, like anything from UFO. I bought tons of shit, even if it's $20 more than the regular album. I tell them to put it away to the side. There was no fucking layaway there. You just looked them in the eyes and said, dog, put that away. I'll be here Sunday. If you're not here Sunday by one, I'll sell it. I need to sell it. Things from fucking England. That's amazing. Do you think that world still exists because now with digital, like people just go online and buy it? Does that even still exist? Do you go to a store and find

that CD? I find that people usually download stuff that they would never buy anyways. If you're going to buy something, it's because you're a collector and your heart is into it. So you're going to buy it. I talked to a lot of kids and they say, you know, I just downloaded because I want to see what it's all about. And they're really not into it. They're kids. They didn't grow up without music. They're stealing music that they didn't grow up with it. So they don't have any emotional connection with it. To them, it's just like, let me check this out. It's like us listening to the radio, you know, and they will not buy it anyways. But even if they are buying it on iTunes, it's not like going to that record store and just,

what is this record? Well, first of all, it's a digital download. It's never going to sound as good as an actual LP with the right equipment. So yeah, there's pros and cons about it. I mean, of course, we've gotten used to hearing certain things. I have a couple of photograph systems at home, you know, LP play, I know, I never. Don't let someone that a play record. I'm going to even remember the last time I played an actual album. Yeah. Yeah. I never take them out and put it out. No. Well, let me tell you the flip side of that, the flip side of that as a fan, as a real fan, as a fucking fan of the music, there's nothing like going home, putting the album on and reading that out. To me, that was an hour of my day with tears in my eyes. The whole

fucking time. I'd be listening to that. I'm reading the cover. Thank you to the charitans. You know, I didn't give a fuck. I knew the recording engineers. I knew the tour managers because there was nothing like opening up an album and taking the poster out. And there was David Lee Roth. I'm down hailing too. And I ripped it up. That cock sucker was chained like that. I didn't like it. But the point is, the point is that there was something about that. When I download, you know, White Snake on my iPod, that's it. That's it. The mysticism, the whole thing about the music to be strictly honest with you. I bought Sabotage next to the Wing Fung Chinese restaurant. Used to have a little music store in North Bergen, New Jersey. I remember that you

couldn't wait to get home with this fucking album. And let me tell you something. You had a better chance of stabbing my mother in the neck than taking this fucking album from me or than looking at this album. Because while it had the paper on it, nobody was going to look at this fucking album. Let me see it. No, there's nothing to see. No way I know. I think you don't got to see nothing here. Come over later after I listen to it. I'm going to look at this album first. You take it home. There was nothing like taking that album out, putting it on. And if it was a thing that helped me, you roll the joint in there. If you people say that today they still go to old album places and they open it up and they see seeds and albums and shit. Because that's what you did.

You cleaned your seeds out. The seeds would roll. And then you'd roll your joint, you'd smoke it, and you'd read the fucking album. And you'd listen to the album two or three times. Then you went out and talked shit about the album. There was no internet to fucking go on and say Rudy's album is good or oh, it's tremendous. There was no commercials in the 70s that said get white. No, it was word of mouth. You went to the basketball court dog. I got the new fucking rainbow album. Oh shit. Oh shit. I got to borrow it. You ain't borrowing shit, bitch. Stop being so cheap. Go buy a fucking album. That's how it was. They've removed that. Even if I buy your fucking DVD, I open it up and it's a sheet of paper. They don't even have that anymore. No, I want to see

something. Read me something. Give me the lyrics to the song. Give me something. I tell people if you open up into the outdoor, Led Zeppelin's Last Album, you take the album out, the fucking sleeve, you get a sponge, you wet the sponge, then you squeeze that sponge, and you go like that, and all of a sudden the pills and everything will pop up to life. They're all different colors. They did things to make you, if you open up something. Yeah, there were like four different versions. Four different versions. Yeah, yeah. If you opened up some girls, some girls was brilliant by the stones because you moved the heads. So there was all these advertising for wigs, and you moved the faces of the stones. Led Zeppelin III was a thing you spun around

inside the album. Yeah. How much would an album cost? 7.99. Okay. 8.99. This fucking 20 million that's unheard of. It was about the fans. It was about them. It was about everybody made a little bit of fucking money. Everybody made a little bit of money. Everybody was fucking happy. Well, record companies made a lot of money. Made a lot of money. I spent $20 for him and Ozzy Osbourne. $25 at the Palladium. I paid $15.50 for Pink Floyd the Wall in 1980 at Nassau Coliseum. Why would I give you $250 and go to fucking the Hollywood Bowl to sit there like a mutt when people would kill themselves, when people were fans of the music? Fans. I mean, when you're on stage, you fucking cried. You fucking cried. You were like, God damn, I'm here. That's what

it was like. I don't see that anymore, but I'm not young anymore. You know the only place I see that and I'm not a fan of the music, but you know those like boy bands like One Direction and and like how those like young girls are with like those kind of bands? So is that kind of good? I mean in a way. It's it's you're talking about the Beatles with chicks are jumping up and down and yelling and fainting. I'm talking about guys going to see you know at the end of Almost Famous when she goes off on The Fucking Kid. She goes off on The Guy. She says a beautiful fucking speech about the fans. It was about the fucking fans, man. It was a beautiful thing when you went to these shows. It was it was the biggest thing in my going to see you at the Palladium was the biggest thing

in my world. When I found out you were Cuban, you gave me hope, man. I knew I could do something in my life. I didn't have to stab people or sell nickel bags in Union City. You know I've been a fan longer than I've been a professional musician and there will come a day that I will stop being in professional musician because you know I'll be too freaking old to be doing this, but I can guarantee you I'll never stop being a fan. I'm a fan. I can't believe it. I couldn't be a musician if I was not a fan and would be impossible. How can you be a musician if you're not a fan of of what you risk everything in life for? When I go see a band and I listen to songs and I'm watching them, I'm thinking about all the effort I wanted to put. And that's how I felt when I was

15. For my effort, yeah. When I was 15, I knew the effort that it took to do that because I wasn't doing it. I tried singing in the shower when I failed. Never mind. I knew the effort. I don't know why. Well, not only the effort, but look at the sacrifices because you know it's I'm not making stuff up here. I'll give you an example. Black Sabbath and I'm going to give you information that came down to me from from Ozzy and stuff that we sit around in the bus talking about. You know they were kids. They were kids who one day they went to a theater so a scary movie and figure out hey if we can make music that is scary as what the movie that we saw were on to something. So they went from being called worth. Yeah. To being called Black Sabbath. That was like

the okay we're going to be scary. So they started creating scary music and scary theme. There were still kids out of Birmingham in England. They were trying to find a way how to get out of that. Not have to be in the factory. You know how Tony Ayumi lost his finger? This is what Ozzy told me. He was he was working with at a factory with his dad. He was one of those press machines. It jumped his finger off and his father took him to the emergency and the doctor said listen I can attach the finger and the father said how long would that take to heal and said well it's going to be a few weeks and his father said how about if we just leave it off and say oh yeah he can go back to work immediately. That was the decision deciding factor of him not having the

full finger and having to have a whatever you know little plastic thing. But then again it changed the sound of music. He would never sound the same with the full hand. You know what I mean? It just changed everything. So out of out of that came this new sound this Black Sabbath sound. You know he played it different way and we started connecting emotionally with it right. Meanwhile these guys were managed the manager that they had in those days. They never saw any money. They just put them on the road. No this is before dawn. The original guy before dawn. It's just like if let's say if you were Aussie and you went to the office and said hey listen I haven't seen any money you know we just got off the road. The guy would open the door pull out

some keys and said yeah you see the Cadillac. Yeah it's yours. Now they weren't aware that they were already paying for that Cadillac anyways. But that was kind of like okay well I got something out of it and the guy would just leave. Meanwhile all these guys were making money money that the musicians never saw and they just kept them on the road kept them. You know I've worked with some people in the industry that they make you think that you're working for management. No the band hires the manager. The manager at any time said listen you guys take a hike. You know there's gonna be some contracts and some certain things that you're gonna owe them just like in any industry whether you if you're a comedian or an actor you have a certain management agreement and you know

the guy is taking you so far in your career and then you you know you disconnect from that person but still you owe them you know some royalties or whatever. It's the same thing in music but in music they always made you feel like oh you guys are nothing with us managers you know which was not the case. So they always kept things away from you. They never allowed you to hang out with the record company people if they you know by them you and the record company people no no no they had to be there to make sure that they were the buffer they were the the filter for you to get to the record company because if they figure if you realize that you really don't need these guys they're done they don't have a job. So they always make it look like oh yeah well you know we're

gonna keep you guys on the road uh do you need anything like uh some pot some some cocaine okay i'll send you some on the road and that's how bands you know were treated back then before they got smart nowadays like it's very rare that you see that happen to any band. Well when you are a musician the ego is built by money you know a sting didn't fucking get up and leave one day when they were three little dirty kids playing music everybody was in love it's when money gets involved that it makes it breaks up bands and when you're just a kid you're just excited to be playing really sorry so in front of people in a garage who the fuck are you kid if i gave you ten dollars in a joint really and i gave you a bed that's a lot better than you were doing at home so i mean

i just want to do when i first started doing comedy i just want to do comedy you know when i hate comedy now when i got to deal with money i wish i didn't have to deal with money i would love comedy that's when this is great it's when money starts coming in that people egos attitudes get shitty what the fuck you know i just watched that documentary again about the eagles you know they went to them one day and said this is us three we're making all the money and you're sitting at home and you don't get no money i can't see that either i can't see that either us five guys we're banned but you're not giving me all the money and i wrote the fucking rifter hotel california what are you talking about what are you talking about i'm a paid salary so that's one thing that's complicated

about the band that i would have shot everybody in the band now i know why you know it's tough that's tough the money thing is very tough yeah and and it's it's the manager's job or whoever is in charge of being the uh the counselor for the musicians where it could be a lawyer because a lot of bands actually have a lawyer and rather than to have a management that they have to give them a commission it's up to these individuals to be the clear heads because clear heads will prevail in a situation like that rarely do you see it happen rarely the powers that be side with whoever has the most power within the band whether it's the guy who wrote the songs or the guy who is the most popular has the biggest fan base or anything like that rarely do you see somebody coming in and saying

listen guys let's sit down and make this and work this out because once to be honest with you i in certain situation i've tried to be that guy and we're not much success but at least i knew that i couldn't go to sleep but if i just let it fall apart without me trying to be reasonable and say listen what do we work this out you know and of course it did not get worked out but nevertheless yeah people it's people like that that really make make a difference because again thinking of the fan as a fan if i grew up with certain bands and once they start changing the the personnel you know the band members it wasn't the same band anymore i wasn't into the band anymore because it was kind of like i grew up with lifers and teams like mickey mannell was a yankee his whole life

you know bobby richerson all these guys tony cubick it wasn't like they were you know they were with the yankees today and then they were with boston the next year and stuff like that i truly believe in and people who are members of a group for you know for their entire career and this is coming from a guy who's played with many bands but it was never my intention to do that it's just happened but ideally yeah i would have rather been with just one band of course i don't have any aspirations of moving forward or you know moving on to something else when i first started doing this no of course not i've been married for over 33 years now well 30 31 years you know so it's i wish i would have had the same type of music career you know for life

five guys same five guys let's say somebody passes on like it happened with brian jones even though brian jones was out of the band you know by the time you know and then he passed away but you know things like that you know you're just the same five guys you know four guys whatever you know and uh yeah that was my intention i think about a band like led zeppelin who had nine albums these are guys that were you know that problems that drunk problems the single lost a kid uh there were problems there how many bands today do you see with nine albums none i don't know how many how many fucking bands a bad company had a couple albums two seven or eight yeah yeah you don't see bands like that no the Beatles had 90 fucking albums i mean yeah

tony bennett's got 60 albums but he's by himself yeah you know every once in a while he duets with lady gaga some shit but besides that you know it's it's i've always been a fan of bands and music and what comes along like i said i would love i would be that guy that just rolls joints on the fucking tour like when the stones did something in jamaica or something just to see the process do you write your own music really yeah i do and how is the process from a to the album i mean how does that work it's you by yourself well it's it's it's a matter of writing the music and then convincing everybody else that that it should go on the record which is the toughest part part of them all yeah because if you're not the singer the singer is going to gravitate towards

the music that they write because it's it's it just makes sense it's like telling a singer sing this melody it's like a singer telling me play this bass part you know what i mean so it's it's you're you're you're getting into their territory so the best thing yeah the second best thing you can do is to actually collaborate with the guys or the singer because again you know you're gonna have vocals and you're gonna have melody you know vocal melodies and lyrics and the song so if you can actually collaborate with the singer and let him come up with you know whatever he feels comfortable and or the message that they're gonna deliver then you're on on the right track is that like the hardest part do you

think because i know i used to be an editor on tv and i hated even though i well you can't really admit it because it's part of being professional but i hated when i would come up with something and then a producer would come in and say oh i don't like that so it like let's say you were you were pitching your song and they wanted to change or they didn't like it what it like that feeling must be terrible then it's like the worst i would imagine it's the worst yeah it's one of those things that you have to just leave your ego out and just understand you know what's best for the for the big picture no matter how screwed up the big picture might be you know you just go with you know a lot of times you gotta have to go with the flow you know of the end of what the

individuals and it's uh it's tough it's tough it's like you imagine you trying to what you're going to be doing tomorrow night three other guys and you're gonna talk him to them into like okay this joke that joke you you tell this all the joke and you do it this way can you imagine that it's a pain in the ass i was watching the mr. james brown oh yeah yeah brilliant did you watch this mr. dynamite with mcjago when he told the movie yeah yeah no not the movie the one the the documentary it's playing now on HBO oh yeah they you haven't seen it with mcjago no and they told mcjago that 1965 mcjago was watching james brown on the sidelines they were doing the show together yeah and i guess the stones were headlining and james brown wanted to kill him because he wanted

the headline yeah he couldn't understand they're like it's a tv show but they said when james brown on the state went on the stage that mcjago was in the sidelines traumatized and in shock yeah from when they showed did you see it i saw they they had that scene in the movie that just came out and like james brown's like fall that welcome to america he blew them off stage oh my god and that's when mcjago says that's bullshit he goes as a matter of fact it was a different audience they had came in and changed the sound the band it was bullshit it was a complete different audience i don't know why they said that he goes yes his performance was they showed it if you watch the documentary they showed the stones and they showed they showed james brown and james brown

just took it to a different fucking level altogether and they showed mcjago putting it together but no he didn't well i mean you have james brown who's the real deal and then you got a bunch of white kids from england who were influenced by james brown and and all the uh you know all the blues players and all of that so you have like second generation so but just like elvis and all the other white artists could they could actually relate to the white kids better than you know an afro-american musician could even though afro-american musicians were brilliant oh they were the best really the best the best the nothing came close nothing no it's the it's the real deal listen uh david ruffin from the temptations to me yeah has one of the greatest voices of all time

the problem with drugs too and he was fucking crazy but the temptations uh you know and they were all from jersey like they were all like if you really look into it all those labels all those kids were from jersey and i heard those songs and i forget the one this magic moment that guy's voice i don't know who said that oh jay and the americans j black are you fucking kidding me that that is just i mean are they black well the only thing black about him is his last name his last name don't eat better cuckuck we do this every monday is my mother's favorite song when they came from cuba i want to be around to pick up the pieces when somebody breaks your heart

some somebody twice as smart as i am what's up cocksucker nothing to give some shout out to you my man uh like i said gregg and lin thank you very much coming to the show and give me the envelope i got a male something for you lee they had something for you and lisa again thank you very much for the special gift from my daughter nathan james turner i love you cocksucker amad alamed stay black mitchell convie derrick jul cleo happy birthday you know we love you here mr whiskey you're a bad motherfucker amy xp dj i love you buddy brandy lin hang in there you dirty bitch now what's the

prep project rock talk to me about project rock oh project rock it's it's well now it's being rebranded something else but it was just basically a bunch of friends you know guys that i play that i that i know from other bands like tim ripper owens you know he was in jewish priest when alpher was out of the band as a matter of fact they uh you know that movie rock star it was based on his story you know he did an interview with some journalists and some magazine and somebody took the story of him being just a kid that replaced his superstar you know rob alpher from jewish priest and you know for all of a sudden we went from a tribute band to actually being in the real band and they made a movie out of out of that story so uh but he's an

incredible singer and then you know guys like teddy zigzag who play with guns and roses keyboard player and james caul attack drummer from scorpions and kerry kelly who played with the house cooper and we would just go to russia deep deep deep into russia syberia concheca you know whatever you know not not what's considered san francisco and and la which is st petersburg and mosca we really went in deep in there and just bring music to the fans you know these are we're talking about what it's been 20 25 years since the uh the fall of the burling wall you know and this is a whole different russia you know forget about putin and all the conflicts going on you know politically let's talk about the people people are just fantastic

and they love america music and they love rock and roll and one of the things the reason why they love it is because it was the music that that were not allowed to watch there were no rock performers during the cold war and or music you know it was all clandestine you know you have to like you know go in a basement listen to the music with your headphones and all of that you know yeah you you you made sacrifices a lot of people went to jail went to syberia because of you know embracing american music and one of the things that i found that was really interesting was and i and i and i i noticed this because you know being from cuba i was exposed to afro cuban music afro being the keyword then when i came to the united states i started listening to blues

and then i was exposed to african blues you know it's where it comes from and i'm going my goodness this music latin music and blues come from the same place africa you know and they brought here through you know the slaves i don't know you know it's a it's a terrible period you know in history but that's how that's how we got our american music you know through that one of the things you have to take into consideration is that the slaves in in the caribbean were allowed to play their percussion instruments because you know they were in spanish plantations you know whereas the plantations in the united states outside of uh of uh uh louisiana which was french they were not allowed to use their percussion instruments so they as as as

as a way to survive their sacrifice you know the hardships of working in the fields they would sing you know and if you listen to cuban to traditional cuban music and the blues is all one four five progressions you know it's the same format you know and and i'm looking at it and saying wow how rich are the music of the united states is you know that came out of this this terrible terrible times in in our history you know through slavery and and i think about not only that as but you know us as individuals when we go through bad times you know if you look at a diamond it's because it's being compressed we get our lives become compressed and the ones that can actually survive that compression we at the end of it we come up

like diamonds so if you listen to american music you listen to the blues you listen to jazz all of that it was a a culture a people that were compressed the hard that their lives were so hard that at the end of it the diamond that came out was actually music american music it's the most true form of american music that there is jazz rock and roll blues r&b gospel you know the the the the soulful gospel that we that we know you know we're singers such as aritha franklin came from and so on and this is something that the rest of the world does not have in common with us if you go to russia there's no african artists that have that influence in them you know what i mean it's not part of their culture so when they listen to the blues they're

hearing something that yes it's about hope and faith because that's what's happening in in the field when you know when they were working you know under such conditions you know the hope and the faith that someday all of this was going to end and they were going to lead better lives that is universal and you can hear in the music and you can hear it even really in the music in the notes that are being played all the pentatonic blues you know scales and riffs and everything that comes through that music and when you take that to a country such as russia that had their own period of hope and faith through music to be able to survive their lives they connect with it in a way that even most of americans today cannot connect with because right now we're connecting

with electronic music music created by computers that's our reference that's our connection we're losing soul we're losing our our connection with our heart and our soul and our spirituality even because this is if you listen to blues and jazz it's very spiritual music because that's where it came from spirituality so then again going back to russia uh one of the things that that i learned from traveling there is that all of these dictators communist dictators they had they were smart enough not to interfere with their faith they knew that they could not fight god so they let them they turned like a blind eye to it and they just let them keep their churches and keep their their faith and so when you travel through all these little towns the most beautiful

ornate buildings well kept is the actual church the local church you know they're very spiritual people very it's it reminds me of cubans you know it's like it's very tight knit culture people really relate to each other they help each other out and they're very communicative with each other you blew my mind sometimes people blow my mind you blow my mind without you just brought it up what do you what is your position on electronic music like sampling and all that that's going on right now you know any form of expression it's it's and you know if a human being can come out with like you know making music with with farts and it sells and people go for it yeah i'm not gonna judge that but to me what really moves me really touches what makes the the hairs in my arm you

know stand it's it's when it touches my soul and so far you know electronic music doesn't do that to me but then again you know you're talking about events at EDM they're very popular with the type of people who are looking after a certain experience you know and most of that happens to be you know they're they're induced by some kind of chemical you know yeah it it is what it is i'm not making this up you know and ecstasy or whatever so it is an event it's a social cultural event and you know to be honest with you if i would have known 40 years ago that i could actually get a laptop and go up there and make millions of dollars the hell with playing the bass take away looking at i don't even know what electronic music is well from what i know how

bad am i how bad are my people i'm sorry i just don't even know what it is i don't know what it sounds like i don't know if it sounds the same i i think there's a difference because i know russell peters gets mad about it there's a difference between some people go and grab old records and get loops and create music with actual old music but then i think some of these other electronic music people are just like solely with their computer they're not they're not going and actually finding the loops and like it's kind of what you're talking about when you're talking about the engineers and the the ones who really know what they're doing that i really like that because i'm a very techy person and i would love to go see an old engineer in the old studio not

with the computer but with like the actual analog material who actually knows what he's doing so like a great dj who can go and pick up a record and mix it together and make it sound really awesome i like that but then again i understand like the the dislike of just going on the computer and basically mashing it together yeah i mean you know and this is sort of an art to that uh yeah uh it basically because you know music music it it's supposed to move you it's supposed to affect you you know emotionally and put you in a certain state and if electronic music can do that to a human being there you go that's the the individual has accomplished that um what i what it's missing to me in electronic you know EDM electronic dance music it's the message and i think it's

since there's no message the individual can create their own message rather than to hear a song and even do there might be certain metaphors you know i mean i know that there's writers that don't realize what their song is about but there is a message in there that becomes your message but then when music is delivered that intentionally there is no message whatsoever then you're forced to create it yourself and this to me is what EDM does it's a you filling the blanks as a human being how is this music touching you what are you getting out of it you know how's it making you feel which is the most important thing about music especially if you under ecstasy those events are huge that they're like a hundred thousand people

you know you know you know when that stuff came up i was a little older along in the tooth you know i would go to more kind i would go to more concerts now like last week rake canella my friend came from jersey i had a band in the sixth grade we had a band we played the Beatles from beginning to end that's all we did we lip-synced yeah and then we went loose you know we we do a janet jackson we started off with the album and then we played live and he went to see judas priest yeah and i called the next day how were they and he loved them he loved the new guitarist he loved the the kk dog like tipped and i think kk's gone and he said howford sounded great yeah the whole thing and i love all that stuff and it's weird that i would

go to that every other night but it's such a fucking pain in the ass really you know i think when i was a kid it was easier when i was younger i would take the train and drink some beers yeah but i gotta tell you the importance of that uh and i i had an experience uh recently uh back in 1983 quiet riot opened up for for judas priest in england so i got to watch him every single night spectacular spectacular spectacular thank you forget you forget you know and life goes on you know and then recently uh the whole band judas priest did a rock and roll fantasy camp and how for you know he had just had some back surgery and stuff like that he was taking it easy i gotta tell you when these guys the real deal opened their mouth and we were just talking about

james brown well you know rob rob halfer in the metal world he is the real deal when he opened his mouth and he's saying you're like i don't care who was in a tribute band who's doing this and that is only one rob halfer it's and there's something about everything yeah let me rephrase that it's not something everything about his singing his voice is the real deal and he does stuff that you have never heard or probably might never hear anybody else do it's so it's he's like nobody else and what's gonna happen is someday hopefully not soon but eventually just like many other voices like i've worked with you know ronnie james deal another incredible voice one of a kind they're no longer with us maybe because he's still alive but he cannot

perform anymore or decides not to perform anymore so to me anytime that what any of these artists the real deal comes around you gotta go you gotta go you gotta go because it's not only it might be the last time but it's a reminder you must remind yourself of what the real deal really is all about what it sounds like what it looks like you and you have to hear it for yourself right there in person a lot of i've heard a lot of comedians say they don't like going to see other comedians because they don't want to get influenced and steal a joke or by mistake copy a joke or just be influenced do you still go see music and i'm a fan i'm a fan i must i must and it doesn't really seem like it's that big of an issue in music to be influenced by other musicians it seems like

everybody is and they don't like consider it's not as bad as like jokes dealing you should be influenced by everybody uh absolutely everybody has something that's so unique about them truly if you're dealing especially the real deal guys yeah i mean i you know guys that might not even be known for like being fast or or whatever or heavy oh boy yeah maybe it's the groove the pocket it's you have to you have to have a groove to your playing you know otherwise there's this is bullshit steve willow a dear friend of mine put children of the grave on my facebook page the other night from 1974 at the california jam i was listening to this morning this morning what's the name of children of the grave 1974 california jam first of all azi asmone was azi was john asmone yeah

that's when he was actually watching the video this morning oh my god somebody posted it that's what happened yeah steve willow posted it my buddy from jersey posted it and i sat there and watched that and i was fucking blown the fuck away it's 1974 no high-level technology this is just for fucking guys how fucking crazy is he's like it's like a daytime too yeah that's what they do kinds of california jam look at the people the amount of people what do you what do you clock at how many people are there uh it's like a whole it looks like wood stock i mean about 200 000 ontario yeah and we did the uh we did the us festival in 83 that was 350 000 so that must have been about 175 200 yeah just amazing i would and then they have another one of them doing something

on on don curses rock concert or midnight special yeah them a black sabbath and there's two guys with matching shirts just losing their fucking head it's it's it's mine i love all that stuff so it's called black sabbath children of the grave 1974 california jam but then again you know i when black sabbath came around last year i went to see them at the exporterium how are they the real deal again they'll actually i thought they were better than i've ever seen ozzy and and the guys because i you know i i play with ozzy and then about the following year with quiet right we opened up for black sabbath on their uh umborn was at the um 1983 they had the like the little the little devil on born again born again born again with ian gillen on vocals did you go see them do

you want to see them this last time yeah phenomenal where everybody said they were phenomenal everybody phenomenal better than i mean better than i've ever seen them you know everybody talks about john godi and i think the baddest motherfucking guinea evers tony i owe me i i say i love him i let me read the sponsors and i'll get you the hell out of it listen man it's always the problem with you i don't have 10 hours i wish i had 10 hours you know because uh i consider you the real deal you're the the fucking you're too much savage yeah and i was like mono me and mono and and it's crazy that we have uh you know the cuban thing between us because i love it it makes me and today i met another today i went to jujitsu yeah and i get in and some kid comes right over and he

goes come tell me man i do know fairly you know and i go you have fake febuls that's like a weird cuban there i go you have family and then and he goes yeah how'd you know i go i hang out with danny he goes oh my god my uncle's got cancer we started talking and more and more he goes i listen to the podcast and then uh he's a fireman you know we talked and on the way out he gave me a dick van dyke book you know is that i'd learn how to speak english when i came from cuba watching dick van dyke that was my short time learned to speak english and uh he gave me the book and he goes this is for you for all the excitement you bring me on the podcast he goes one of the things i was coming to see was you do jujitsu he goes so i brought my suit just hopefully you were here

and you came and uh i just felt good we were talking spanish for a couple minutes you know i got the cuban pulled out of me when i got and i didn't have it again i didn't have it again for like five years and now i'm way deeper than again i'm way deeper than i am i'm uh my uncle called last night my uncle that did the podcast for us he's 76 and he goes i made up my fucking mind but he said all this in spanish yeah i'm taking you your wife the kid my daughter the boys everybody we're going to cuba next summer he goes get your passport in order so now i gotta get my passport in order at least to go to cuba they won't let me go to canada but i gotta go like we're gonna go as a family we're gonna go as one big fucking we're taking a jew with us too what do you think you

think he'd come back if he went crazy over that cook at that they were like los polacos that's where the uh the the jewish community was in cuba los polacos you know los polacos yeah yeah yeah they you know they they arrive in havana you know from world war two you know running away from uh from hitler poland you know there you go bro really there's some views in cuba you kidding shit if you go to south beach there's like oh yeah temples everywhere you know cuban jewish temples yeah wow yeah so you might have to go down there with this dog we're going to cuba i'm down we're going first podcast ever from cuba first podcast ever from cuba have you been rudies and you don't ever wanna let's see i checked this morning we're still a communist country so

so you won't go even to perform like these people no i you know my mom and dad never went back they went back to visit my grandmother and never went back but you know it's it's they they sacrifice so much to bring my brother and me over here you know so they they'll always express their not us wanting to go back you know my brother and me so i i respect their wishes yeah how's your brother doing he's doing good you and your brother band now for the first time well we did we we toured it when you know with this jeff tate uh queens right and it was fun a lot of fun you know we hadn't toured together actually we had never toured together uh we played together in miami a lot and then and later on in new jersey but uh we had never been in a national touring

band before or international because we actually got to play in brazil and so it was it was definitely a lot of fun you're in the next tour with queens right with jeff tate yeah yeah i mean it's being rebranded as operation mind crime so i okay okay so i'm not i i don't have the timeline of what things are going to be happening in the near future but yeah do you still sing silent liquidity or you don't like to sing that one who jeff the new band yeah i know oh yeah it's a beautiful song and it's okay so we could do it okay because i thought that i thought they had the same pink floyd thing going on like jeff tate's queens right can't do the old queen no no no i think they something has something to do with operation mind crime that he does operation mind crime

and empire or something and whatever i you know i stay out of this you just don't give a fuck you're like me you just show up no because you know it has nothing to do with me right yeah nothing at all i was totally asked me quite i don't know because i don't even get involved i just know this yeah i mean it's simple if it had to do with me yes i will get involved but it has nothing to do with me you're a fucking great guy man i love just having you around you ate the croquette i went to mambo we picked up some empanadas did you like them i like it too i like the picadillo for them i'm telling you my wife got the shredded beef i liked it it was okay but it wasn't my mother's my mother's really doped it up with the olives and shit but this picadillo is okay pasita pasita

the raisins oh my god my mom used to make that picadillo dish which is chopped meat basically he's trying to it's sloppy joe for cubans it's a sloppy joe but she boiled the fries the little potatoes and then fry them with oh my god in the meat with olives stopping the couple raisins with some white rice stopping the fucking mateba i almost brought you a mateba and eat on bed that's a cuban soda mateba's a cuban soda and iron beer is the other one have you i haven't had it but i've seen you he's seen it at the house the guy with the muscle and shit eat on bed i am beer you don't bet you don't bet yeah we were talking about all those cuban words like niche niche means a black dude but now you can't say it no more but niches even

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my folks you know tremendous yeah right i went uh three weeks ago but i watched the other in the hotel i watched anthony board day in layover in miami oh shit oh shit rudy he went to some tremendous places but he talked to the most interesting he talked to some cuban fishermen that were cuban and after the revolution they came up here and they continue to do the same thing so all their buddies their cuban buddies they just fish all day and bring the same fish to the same restaurant and whatever they have like some days they have bugle some day they were saying all the fish names in spanish i was getting goosebumps i love all that stuff you know last time i went to miami i realized something rudy that and you can't you can't because of what we do but if you're

spanish at one point you gotta live in miami for a month or two just uh it was different i know some people don't like it my mother didn't like it my mother didn't want to be around a bunch of crying cubans she said but this last time when i went you pull over on the streets and they're drinking coffee and you go and they ask you if you want a cup to invite you to a cup for a court or whatever it is and it just i like that i like that thing i like that it's not starbucks and starbucks everybody's on the fucking computers look try to who's trying to be the smartest one in the fucking room and miami nobody was trying to be the smartest one in the room they were just trying to coexist man and i hadn't been around that in a long time and i really really enjoyed it so that's why you know i

grew up there and thank god you know my my mom and dad are still with us but it's say you know and they're almost 90 you know there's that that last generation even though i was born in cuba you know but we're talking about the last generation that actually left cuba with their children and sacrifice everything that they had to give their children a better life you know in freedom you know because after all that's what we came here for you know everybody had jobs over there it doesn't matter like you know things got screwed up when communism came in and took everything away you know so all the sacrifices and it's that generation you know and it's it's it's it's it's a bit sad because they never like in my parents case they thought they was just going to be like you know we're going to be

here in miami for a few months and then go back to havana you know because they they left our place just like we were going up for the weekend you know everything stayed because we couldn't give any of our belongings to our relatives because you know the comiteta defensa you know the the defense committee people would like shiva tiad and you know they were like tell us on us and we you know we basically had to sneak out of our house in order to get to the airport and get dressed in somebody else's place so that our neighbor didn't see us like hey wait wait when you because back in the day you you wore a suit when you flew you know yeah a suit and tie you know and so all of the stuff and then we we get to the united states and it's going through the whole you know you know the whole

process of becoming Cuban refugees even though we you know we we enter legally passports and visas and sponsored and the whole bit there's a lot of sacrifices you know and i see that last generation not fulfilling their dream of going back to Cuba someday because it's just it's you know every day you know it's like it ain't gonna happen you know it the only way for them to go back to Cuba would be to basically go back again under another communist country you know still a communist country so it it is a bit sad for me to uh to witness that that their hopes and dreams of that generation are basically you know my sister's there yeah i never really met my sister oh in Cuba yeah yeah she stayed yeah she stayed with her grandmother and got married and the rest is fucking history so i

want to do that there's a couple things i want to do i know the situation i know it's communist what am i gonna do yeah exactly you know i might die tomorrow i want to show my little daughter yeah but grandmother for the grave there's a side of me that that part of me wants to go wants to really to go the only reason you know the only reason only reason why i don't go is because because of my parents that's that's the only reason anything else i would really don't give a shit you know i just want to i would do it for myself you know just to go back and see where i went to school where i what i what i grew up and you know whatever i want to see the same streets my father walked yeah i want to see in the house where my father grew up i want to see the

school they went yeah well i see i want to witness that for first hand i want to go back to to walk the streets i walked when i was when i was a child and i left i was almost 11 when i left and i want to walk the same streets if still there or the same school if the building's still there because like everything is falling apart you know all i remember is an ocean really male con that's all i remember you remember close my eyes i remember holding my mother's hands is a little boy and that's all i remember and then being in new jersey wow that's it i remember but i if you talk to me about cuba i can't lie to you i don't remember the streets i remember what i ate i remember a beach i remember just looking out into the ocean that's it that's all i could remember so i love you

rudy with all my heart i wish you thank you thank you for having me i'm pleased i've been thinking about you for months and somebody hit me up saying we're gonna have rudy and two or three people kept hitting me i'm just i gotta get a hold of rudy i know you're busy i'm gonna be at uh philly helium this week and then lee uh we're doing a workshop next wednesday for a one-man show we're doing sort of like a testicle testaments me and margie brony that's at the ice house we might do a podcast and mix it up a little bit so uh that's basically it guys i love you guys again support on it iran dragon tv dot com hitty six dot com and nailed it life and we'll be back tomorrow night at eight o'clock guys stay black what do you gotta leave do you have a website rudy or twitter or

anything people could yeah twitter rudy sarsa twitter facebook uh tomorrow's my birthday sir if anybody wants to leave any message i'll leave a message tomorrow happy birthday i'm not gonna ask you how old you are 29 30 30 the second time plus you know i'll be i'll be 64 god bless you rudy yeah next year i get medicare and you get 10 percent off at restaurants well i think i already do that yeah triple a triple a and and the double a rp yeah i love you brother thank you very much thank you lisa thank you buddy this play early no it's okay i and if you guys i just started my first blog at leeside dot com if you wouldn't to check it out i'd appreciate it shows brought to you by on it dot com go to on it dot com and use code word church to get 10 percent off of any of

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