Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #235 - Joey Diaz, Herb Dean, Lee Syatt
Episode Date: December 2, 2014Herb Dean, UFC referee, trainer, and martial artist, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout. Ir...on Dragon TV. A New Roku channel with all the best martial arts films. Use Code words joey or church for two free rentals. HITecigs.com For a better tasting, longer lasting e cig go to HITecigs.com. Use Promo code joeyschurch for a 20% discount Naileditlife.com - Get 20% off a vapor pen by using code word joeydiaz. Music:Â Jungle Boogie -Kool and The Gang I Wanna Be Around - Tony Bennet Rider's on The Storm - The Doors Recorded on 12/01/2014
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Jungle boogey what what jungle boogey? Oh shit
It's Monday night December 1st bitches. What get up that bucket. How is that helmet?
24 days till Christmas
Oh
Shit everybody wants a present, but nobody wants to suck dick
Confucius oh shit hit it
Oh shit
Somebody's somewhere is jumping up and down right now. You know I'm saying at least I at what the fuck where you've been on a week
Well, I've been here where I was with you what night Saturday all right
You better get together and shoot we got stuck in traffic was a fucking disaster. How was your weekend good?
It was great. Your wife's getting ready for finals. So there's no chocha for you no more
So you're sitting at home like a fucking mook
Watching TV wishing you were eating Mexican food. Oh, yeah, look at you. Oh, this is gonna piss you off
But I have to tell you what happened. So her mom always has made the hot dog dropped in bacon
Guess what she's making for me this week that I
Think you might have to call it a hospital. You might have a heart attack
What she's gonna make it with turkey hot dogs and turkey bacon. That's disgusting
Tallowing waste of time. Yeah, I might as well go to Felipe's wedding her being the motherfuckin skiz house
What's up fresh from UFC 90 fucking to whatever the fuck number it's up to I know what you do last weekend
Okay, let's see last weekend. What did I do last weekend? I don't think I had any fights last weekend
This last week in a pass. Yeah, you know, I did Thanksgiving and then I just chilled around my house
It was very comfortable. You have the family. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
So me and my me and my kids we went out to my parents house and the whole family was out there and you know
We had a beautiful Thanksgiving and you know, I think it was um
It was a very successful Thanksgiving because we only started what I think maybe three hours late
Three hours late, which is awesome. What time was the due date?
Okay, it was supposed to be at 12 and you started at 3. What time was the first?
Turkey fucking piece of turkey about maybe 315. All right. That's not bad. I think that was good. I watched football
Yeah, yeah, I think it was good. I'm late. Some people brought the shit late, but it was perfect. It was perfect. And then let's see
What do we do? Oh, you know, yeah, it was all just love and family hanging out having fun. No arguments
Yeah, that's good. You gotta have a little friction on somebody's got to leave pissed off or they Thanksgiving
Yeah, well, no, my kids my kids were complaining about this or that but no ground folk arguments
You know, there's a little totally do that or that one told him this this this and that he's bossy blah blah blah
That's fucked up going those big big big Thanksgiving. I forgot all that was like and you said the kid table
I used to drive it because I wasn't a huge fan of these cousins
But this past
Thanksgiving I kind of missed it a little bit
Just like even though we even though you don't always get along like it's just it's it feels
I'm it's like a good feeling when a family's together even even if like your mom doesn't like this one sister and
It just gets crazy. I was supposed to go to my uncle's
But then he started saying, you know, he went to a little restaurant
So I bought this turkey from Boston Market with all the trimmings and I'm like, I don't want that shit in my fucking car
Anyway, cause gonna stink like fucking Turkey for three weeks. I drive with the Glendale
It might leak in the car. Fuck that. So I finally said, I'm gonna eat it at home
And then go down there for dessert, but he said he was gonna get something else
And so my daughter went to sleep because we kids you really when you have a baby you can't time
Yeah, how would she see she's 23 months on Saturday or some shit
So you can't time what time they're gonna fall asleep and should I took her out on morning and walked her and
It was like two o'clock. She slept till five only a four. I couldn't take it no more. I hit the fucking crib
And I slept till about six. I got up. I went to Steve Simone's house, which was very nice that motherfucker could cook
He met a few meatballs and baked ziti
Got a taste of the pumpkin pie and I got the fuck out of there by eight o'clock when the baby started night
And I went home and I think I watched the movie with my wife and
You know, but to me it was like walking out of the house tonight. I walked out of the house
And I'm on the top of the stairs and I looked down. I saw a palm tree and 18 years later
I can't fucking believe I'm in California. Oh, that's great
Like you really can't but like everyone so I catch myself. You're on sunset
And you're driving a light and you look at a palm tree and you look at sunset. You go, holy fucking shit
I'm on Sunset Boulevard. How the fuck did this happen? You know, see I grew up here
So I didn't realize how awesome it was until I started traveling and I start going to these places and like it's not the code
Okay, the code is rough sometimes, but for me, it's a novelty
But what gets me is that all the wildlife knows better they all leave and all the odd
There's no birds. It's all silence and and there's no green stuff all the like you see these these hedges, right?
But they're not hedges in the winter. It's just these twigs and people's yards
And you're like man, those hedges better be beautiful to justify twigs
For most of the year then you come back here and pass the other pastina lots of trees birds are chirping
I got squirrels partying in the backyard. It's nice. It's got parents
Yeah, it's crazy. It really is that you walk out and you realize like you have to check yourself
And that's the same way Thanksgiving is
Like that was a very peaceful Thanksgiving. I remember Thanksgiving
Me and a buddy went to call for another friend at his house
We were maybe 16 and all of a sudden the father was drunk
And we got to talk in the hand one thing led to another and voices started getting raised
It was 16 and the father finally took out a knife and chased us out of there
That was a Thanksgiving, you know, 30 years ago, whatever. So when I have a Thanksgiving like this, that's peaceful
Then there were the Thanksgiving when you had no money and somebody invited you over there
And you had to scrape up five bucks to get like a six pack of coax you didn't walk in there like a fucking idiot or an apple pie
And when nobody ate the apple pie you were pissed off
Did you use that $9 for something peaceful and you're thinking about taking it back on the way home?
And you're like fucking I just lost $9, but they fed me. I remember those Thanksgiving's being broke
So they all come into perspective, you know, Thanksgiving it really I
Like it cuz you always think back what the fuck was I doing last year Thanksgiving, you know
Was I eating turkey was they didn't dick was I in the bridge with a fucking sign?
It was crazy like I guess it was two years ago when Terry when Terry was pregnant and like she was
She I don't think she even ate like you and I ate and watched a little bit of football. She cooked and went to bed
Yeah, she cooked. Yeah, she was pregnant as fuck. She was ready to bust
You know, it cracks me. Yeah, it cracks me up about things
It was like the friends whose houses you used to go over just all the different houses
We had and then also what makes me think about is the friends who stopped by my house without calling
Even though it's kind of annoying sometimes those are my real friends because we grew up before they were cell phones
So we would just go by each other's house. That's how you did you just want to knock on the door
I remember that like remember that expression calling for somebody
Hmm when I was growing up that was the thing you called for Lee you called for her because the mom would answer
Yeah, you always called for somebody I went over and called for you yesterday. What are you talking about?
I'll never told me. That's when you went to somebody's house. That was called calling for right. Yeah. Yeah going over there
Yeah, let's go call for something. Let's go call for fucking her being there was no pay for on you
You just went over that fucking boy the clock and there's her mom get the fuck off. I stoop motherfucker. Okay, you know, there's no, uh, I
Don't
Because the baby and my wife I wouldn't want my old friends knocking on the fucking door unexpected
Do you know luckily for you? They probably don't live here there. No, they don't I don't have like crazy
I live in the same town. So they all you know, I got a few of my friends
We just come knock on the door if they don't I don't answer I can what I find out by the time I finally get to the door
They're like peeking through windows and stuff. Is he in there?
They won't leave cuz they know you're in there. They see the car. I see the car. No, I remember weird Thanksgiving
It's just one of those holidays and it kicks off a
Hard time for some people and you see it on their faces some people fucking struggle during the holidays Jack
You know, I struggled but I just fucking party till that's it a lot of people tell you know what once Thanksgiving heads
I just want to go to sleep and wake up January 3rd
Understood time for him to let it go
Because you know what it is is when you're gonna see all the people who you believe are judging you about where you believe
You're gonna be or where you think you should be. That's what I think it is
I see a lot of people who are going to that so they're gonna see their family and they're gonna see so-and-so's doing
Well and so-and-so did this and so-and-so got that for such-and-such and they're talking about this and that and maybe you don't want
You're not saying the things you want to say or would like to be saying, you know one of the best holiday seasons
I ever had I could look you both in the face and tell you this when I was locked up
Why because I learned a lot
Well the best how I still remember calling somebody Christmas Eve on the payphone and
Walking out and just looking at the prison the little army barracks
And going wow this wasn't as bad as I thought I
Ate you know I talked to some guys
We didn't drink we didn't smoke dope, but you didn't need to do they like not take it for granted like it's a special day
People out here kind of get sick of them and they don't really care about it as much or it was
It was really weird because you had these barracks and every barrack had an eating area
Like a bench a microwave a little refrigerator
You had to keep keep it clean on your own some guys kept it clean some guys were just animals
But there was the HIV unit and those motherfuckers kept shit spotless
So we would hide our stashes over there
So the one Christmas Eve we all went over there and I was in business with this guy in prison that cooked
He was an Italian guy, but he fucking cooked and he cooked from
tools
Herb Dean he cooked nachos every night. He charged two dollars for nachos and they were better than fucking restaurant ones
He got these salted chips from downtown Denda
And then he would make his own cheese. He would stick there the iron
You know the ironing when you iron he'd take the thing out of the iron
And that's how he would melt the cheese in the bucket
And then he would cut green chilies in there and onions and tomatoes and he would melt the cheese to take eight hours
And he'd be cooking that and people would be knocking on this fucking door all night
Is the chili ready? He fucking cooked and every day he cooked something different
Then there was these Mexican dudes that came in and their wives made these green chili burritos
But he was on probation for some so he would cut the profits with the Italian dude
So the Italian dude had nachos at night and green chili burritos
This was every fucking night this guy so we ate it wasn't like what you see and you know
We didn't eat lobster tails like good fellas, but I remember Christmas Eve. It was snowing
And we there was 30 of us in the HIV unit with six HIV guys from heroin, you know
And we were all eaten and we had all the fucking food that you'd have at home
It was mind-boggling and here's these guys
I probably had beefs on the street or whatever because I wasn't from Denver
But I knew that there was shit going on in there
Everybody was he never some guys are probably doing drugs, but for the most part it was a Christmas that I
Thought it was gonna be a bad Christmas
But it was a great Christmas
It was it wasn't bad at that time. I wasn't having good Christmases. I haven't had really good Christmases
My mother had just you know six seven years in my mother had just died
Christmases didn't even feel like Christmas
Not because they didn't feel like Christmas because I didn't want to feel Christmas, you know in a way
I didn't want to feel it, but that was the first time in 87 that
Christmas that I was like, okay
I fucking get Christmas again, and it was Christmas. Sorry to fucking know you down with that story
But it's a true story. So when I think of prison, that's interesting
I know some people make mistakes like like you've talked about DUIs and stuff or or just punching somebody in like hitting them wrong
But mostly when when I think of prison, I think of like bad people being there
What is that true? Do you think or like what percentage of them are bad? There's a lot of people that were bad
There was a lot of people that were there at the end of their sentence like they had done 20 fucking years
There was a lot of murderers in there. There wasn't no rapists in that place. There wasn't no child molesters
It was violent offenders that were trying to get
Into a system like I think rifle. There was a couple camps. There was rifle camp George West
And there was one other one rifle was more for drugs like if you were on drugs or you sold drugs
They put you through a rifle at the end. I think they had a movie theater
They had a swimming pool. So you would be a lifeguard in the town
They really did a lot of things in rifle because you couldn't escape. There's no way fucking
Who played blade?
Wesley Snipes could not escape from that jail
Because rifle to the cities three hours there and it's one road
Sorry, so they gave you all the leash in the world
They let you swim in the winter you got a job at the movie theater like at the Lowe's 16 in town and the summer
You got the body guard body guard lifeguard
So it was a drug prison and then the other one
Was the one for rapist and charm molesters?
I was at the one with violence burglaries
Maybe a little couple they got guys for drugs heroin, but long-term
Guys that had done, you know, there was a guy in there that told told me how he killed this guy
But the guy but when he was telling me the story and I got to meet him. I
Saw it. I could see it happening. Why would you mess with this guy?
You know something like if you saw fucking Spencer Antoine you knew not to mess with him
He was six for four. He played for Louisiana's whatever University of Louisiana. It was a linebacker. He had married
He had six kids. He was blue collar
And he went to Denver on vacation for his sister and some guy mess with his sister and he ran down the stairs and fucking
The guy said something another guy. He went upstairs and got a knife
He's from the fucking by you. So I was just I was literally just thinking that so let's say I go on a vacation to Minnesota and I
Kill somebody do I go to jail in Minnesota? Even if I'm from Boston, yeah
Now your family has to go visit you so his family would come every six months
They put away money. Oh, you had six girls or five girls and a boy
But I could see how he went down. He went up. He went up
Took the ear beating got smacked in the face went upstairs got a knife and came back and stabbed one of the guys
And killed them I could see it happening, you know, you could see did he get a long time
He got 12 years because he had a really good attorney, you know, there was another guy that became friends with a scout
Like just robbed the Denver Broncos
Like way before computers and all that shit. He bought a ticket
And printed the ticket in the same paper
He busted into the paper where they made the ticket to the Broncos the NFL
Just masterminded this fucking scam. He was some Cleveland chubby Italian dude
And he he was doing it in chunks so he would travel all around the country in
Chunks, so he would go to New England one week. So 3,000 fake tickets
Just sell them for 74 95. How can you do that? We're in bed with the New England Patriots at the new program
The NFL is in bed with them. If we sell the ticket to you
You get $10 off from the ticket price that they say people are buying them like hotcakes
And then he would go to Baltimore then he would go to Miami or they bust them in Denver the FBI
He was going to a town and he told me he goes out average
2,015 or 2,000 tickets at
Face Valley made a lot of money made a lot of fucking money
And you know how they caught him. He sat in his own seat
Oh
See him and his people were not allowed to go to the games because they didn't want to be on camera and I felt sick
He was a Cleveland Brown fan, and he went to the Denver Bronco fan. He stayed and sat in his own ticket
After the description of people and bubba bubba bubba, and then everybody came
That's the guy
That's how they fucking nailed them. Just tremendous one little mistake
He said he saved one of the best tickets for himself and went in there
And they did something where they zapped out the tickets
So the people who really had tickets
The tickets wouldn't be good or something something just fucking brilliant in those days like I met people that
To the regular person you consider him a scumbag
But to me, I'm open-minded as an artist and I like when people get fishy
I looked at his genius like that's genius to do something like that. Yeah, I mean when you think about I don't I think it
He's a scumbag. He's you know he's hurt. He's a scumbag and people just come back
But at the same time it's cool that people are able to think outside the box and people are American ingenuity and be a
Self-starter and you know what I mean?
When I was on hustle, you know, there was a guy and I always think about there's a couple dudes. There was one dude
That was a top
I think about a lot. I think I loved him. I loved him. I loved him with all my heart. He's a beautiful beautiful man
He had 14 cars when I met him and he has seven women dog and they would all come on different schedules
I don't know how the fuck he did it and he loved Nutter butters
So he had all of them bring him Nutter butters and he sent him one of his cronies
He had like 10 motherfuckers around them in all time and they knock on my thing Diaz Cuba
To a rape house looking for you and I'd walk over there and they don't be outside like four of them would be outside
Two in the hallway one in the back and I'd walk through them like not nerdy like what's up? What's up?
What's up? Yeah, and I go back to what's up, man? I got some and we listen to Bobby Brown. Don't be cruel and eat
another butters
Oh
This is in Denver, huh? This is in Denver, so he was a Crip from LA. I don't know what that song is
Oh my god the beginning of it just
And when the beginning the middle when they were all they would go crazy the brothers would throw up gang signals
And they'd be dancing the hallways and it was just a whole and and here's the interesting thing that it was a Crip
Army barrack
But they put one black one white biker in there. His name was tramp
And tramp was the head of some biker gang at the time of VP and
He you know, he hated black guys
But the busses balls they put them in this unit with all these Crips that was straight-up Crippin in there selling shit
They would go great
They would look to get and they would all be dancing with another buttons. You can't in the video
Yeah, and the videos they would do a moves on the video, but there's a part towards the middle
When he goes nuts Bobby Brown and then they would set up
They would set up a
Domino game in the laundry room on Wednesday nights and they'd be all around the building Crippin
But there was one black dude. They allowed his name was graveyard
Graveyard had the afro with the bonbons on the side and shit
Graveyard shit missing teeth and he'd be playing slamming dominoes
But there's a part on here with that part would come on no matter what was cracking they'd all start fucking dancing. It was I
Can't forget that shit, dog
And I would be right in the middle of that shit
Howling loving it saying now where the cameras
Where's the fucking people taking pictures? This was chairman. This was 16 fucking black dudes with things on what do you call?
Do rags do rags and the whole thing and one Cuban dude just sitting in the back giggling even like a tamale
Going what the fuck is this?
Tremendous man's funny thing about prison stories because you know
I've never been in prison and I don't want to be in prison and nobody wants to be a woman anybody starts talking about prison
Even though we don't want to go there's not like we're trying to find out about everybody the whole conversation stops
I'm gonna go tell us about this. Oh my god
Prison stories right anytime locked down or whatever whatever the look there's two or three jail shows and I'll watch every single one of them
I've seen them all ten times
It's cuz it's like a totally no one like you can't even imagine what that's like
It's it's from the moment you're born. You're sick. That's like that's where bad people go
So it sounds terrifying and I slid my way. I never think about it like that. I think about it
That's a place where I mean, I don't know as a person of color, especially in the you know in the times we were up
That's where you could end up
So it's not even you being bad. It's just that's a possibility
Depending on how your day goes. It's very easy to get caught up
It's very easy. It's very easy to get to be just a street guy
You could be at the wrong house and then all of a sudden you know you sell possession of stolen property
So I'm a customer three fucking stereos. It's a Wednesday. I know this Honda dealership across the street, boom
You know, I get off on a fucking probation and now I'm in a car with you
You got a joint I go to jail
So, how would you describe yourself at that point? Were you in the wrong place at the wrong time or were you like a bad guy?
No, I was a bad guy. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I was a bad. I didn't know you're telling the story
What'd you do? I kidnapped to do for drugs for cocaine with another dude and then he went to turn on me
But uh, it was so you kidnapped him and it was holding him hostage for them to bring you though
No, I it was basically what it was supposed to be
Was the dude was gonna sell me coke
Because he was gonna leave town. He was gonna rob his roommate
He had gotten busted and at the hospital for stealing liquor cocaine after a DUI. This dude was crazy
So he was gonna sell me the coke me. I'm thinking to myself. I just robbed this guy
So I got this other guy. I usually just work with Jersey guys my friends I grew up with I was out of my realm
I used this other guy and
That guy tried to rob me. So it was just one of these things where I was at the wrong place at the wrong time
But not really. I knew what I was going through and at that time. This is what I needed
I knew when I was doing this that I was gonna go to jail in hindsight. I knew it
I knew that this was gonna be a long shot and it was just a day of horror and that we didn't beat him
No, no, it was no you could drop the drug you'd be like what's he gonna do after he goes
Well, this is the gentleman who was
Trying to
Upstond with my cocaine. I
Usually they don't have any recourse. It was crazy. It was crazy because then the guy is that the coke belong to went to the police station
That's hilarious and he copped to it that see that was making it was okay
It was fucking crazy. This whole thing was crazy
But it was that the old expression what a tangle web we weave when we tangle to the seat
So I saw it evolve in front of you every day the last couple weeks
I've been writing just one story about my life
I would love to have seen that when that guy came into the police station was like so
Randy I like to report a crime. I'll never forget that his name was Randy Chambers and
You know from what I heard years later. He wasn't a bad dude
He was just holding the coke for these guys moving it from this guy stays at his house and discovers the coke
This guy that I kidnapped was no fucking angel
You know, I apologize to him. We're tight now. We talk on the phone from time to time
But he knows that he's he was no angel at the time in fact
Fresh off my situation. He got robbed again. He was involved in the same shit again. I bought coke from him
Four or five years later. I bought coke from at that time. He was on heroin
This kid was bad news for a while didn't give me the excuse to rob. Well, that's why he understood
He was a drug. Yeah, he's like he's like, yeah, I understand. He understood
I know that I could have been you so but it's crazy that I was cleaning off coke for a year
And I moved to Aspen and I was working at the Crestwood Hotel as a security guard and
Night I was a security guard at night and breaking into people's houses to stay in the house
I wasn't breaking nobody's house at this time. Oh, okay. I was on the level. I had a girlfriend
And we were staying at the employee housing at the Crestwood until my apartment opened up at the hotel
You had a wait a couple weeks till somebody moved out
And then you got a free one bedroom apartment to working there and a ski pass at the time. That's nice
Yeah, it was pretty fucking cool. There's 1985 and I had been coke for a year
But I was hanging out with people that were doing coke and one night I did
Like just before the year and I was like fuck I did 11 months and after that I was off and running
I wasn't crazy. I would just do a little bump from time to time
Then Danny Biancullo came out and started selling me ounces and I would go to East Coast and pick him up
Like a eighth of a kilo. I'd pick up nine ounces ten ounces and bring them back and I'd sell guns and and I got myself
Into this round, but they had blown up this drug dealer. His name was Steve graybo
They had blown him up in a car bomb
So his understudies were still around the people that were moving coke from was still around and some of the people
I knew was still getting coke from this graybo organization. They were white dudes to people
I knew it was a chick and a guy primarily
And I said and also I sure they're selling coke for 1800 an ounce
And I'm selling coke for 1200 an ounce and I'm giving them way better coke
So the word fucking got out. So one day this kid calls me he goes. Hey, man
My friends want to talk to you. They want to talk to you about
Maybe you go on business with them. You don't even need to go back East. Maybe they'll just cut you
a deal. I was a good fucking drug dealer at the time. I
Was selling the ounces
I had one guy that sold grams in Aspen and another guy that sold grams and color and in
snowmass village
My prices were so good that I could pay these guys like good money
So these guys would sell an ounce a night like they were fucking
Savages they would leave my house at eight o'clock with an ounce of coke and fucking half grams and knock back out my door
One with a way give me another fucking ounce. I would go guys. I don't have to even prepare it
I got it in rock form. So I was killing motherfuckers and I was selling at old school
I took it street today's money's guys are selling a hundred a gram and cutting it
I was giving them come for 80 and rocking it up for them. They were losing their mind
I was like fucking killing motherfuckers. So this guy calls me and then he goes. Hey, man, they want to talk to you
Maybe you buy the coke from them and me and this dude I go right as long as you go with me
I don't know these fucking people because no, no, no, I'll pick you up
We went we went to old snowmass when we got those snowmass they fucking pulled us over and
They made me go in this other car and they said put a fucking bag over yet. No, I'm like what no they didn't yes
They fucking did I'm like what the fuck are you talking about?
Like when I search you for weapons, we'll give you the weapons back on the way out
But and we'll put a bag over yet. I'm like what?
And I'm like, all right, put the fucking bag over my head. It was like a five-minute drive
And I went in I took the bag off when I went in and these motherfuckers that I went to talk to had bags on their head
We're little fucking holes cut out the shit. I'm like what?
What the fuck how you never told the story because I just remembered this I was writing this stupid shit
And this is an I'm an old snowmass and I'm in this fucking like
garage slash barn like what he carried heavy machinery and
The guys like you don't know me my let's just say my name is Kurt
With a bag on the head with a fucking white like not like a KKK bag
Right fucking brown bag with little holes like a fucking three idiots and I'm thinking about this at first
But I'm like, you know what these motherfuckers are retarded, but they're the type of guys that probably you know, whatever
They got it going on. I'm not because like my name is Kurt
Let's just call me Kurt whatever and you know, you're fucking shit up
You know if you want to buy it from us we'll sell it to you for 14,000
I was like listen, man. I'm not even up to that level. I'm already been involved with these guys. They go give us a try. I
Think I took like six ounces in the missile like that, but they have like a middleman
They just took me out there like scared me like to scare me or some shit
But I was like come on you guys been watching too much fucking Miami Vice. I
Fucking got back in the car and I had to put the bag on my head and then drive to my car and they took it off and then
The next we got the next couple weeks. I got a call that to deal with these guys. I had to be a volunteer fireman
This is crazy shit, dog
And here's the fucked up shit that you got to be careful what you wish for
Because for years I was like, I'm gonna be a good drug dealer. I'm gonna be a good drug dealer
I'm gonna be a good drug dealer and I was like fuck, you know, and here I was
That's it. I had reached around a fucking drug dealing with these fucking savages
Like this was it these guys carried weapons and they had bags over their fucking heads
Like this is it. I'm on Miami Vice
Welcome to the fucking real world and I kind of shit my pants, you know, I kind of like I kind of shit
I used to carry a weapon then I had a fucking holster with with two fucking clips
I mean, I was just fueling my fucking fantasy
And this is why I tell people all the time like when I call Duncan on that YouTube video
Because this is how quick you fall into shit
I think that would have messed me up the bag because that that's like, I don't know. That's like some like yeah, that's that's crazy
I wouldn't like that at all not being able to see where you're going
It was
As far as etiquette as far as etiquette fucking surreal guys, but that was it that was the beginning of my end
So wait, what happened with the firefighter?
Yeah, they're joining the fire department. So how to join the fire volunteer fire department
Because you had to join the snowmass club to get the blow from them
and
The only way you afforded to play in the snowmass club is a you paid the 22,000 a year to join or
B if you were volunteer firemen, they gave you free admission into the snowmass club
And they put the coke in your locker and you take the coke out of the locker
They did everything to the snowmass club
So I got became a volunteer fireman, you know, I did the two weeks of training and they make you shut out a fucking fire and a dumpster
they do like
You know because up there that most of the fires were fireplaces
Those were 60% of the fires were like fireplaces
It wasn't you weren't gonna handle Jew lightning or nothing like that. Nobody's arson and shit. Nobody's burning shit down
So that's what I had to learn to do and I did it for like four weeks to lightning
I just that was okay. I was just figured that went up. That's good
They made me a volunteer fireman, and then I didn't show like two of the things
But they call you and shit like hurry up. You got to go to a dumpster
I didn't show and they fired me. That was my end of my cocaine career with those guys because I couldn't they wouldn't do it any other way
They had security the people they were in with the people at that fucking country club. Either they owned it
They were in and that's where you had to do all your choice actions. Uh, you know, put the money in a locker
Fucking crazy shit guys. This is this yeah
This is old-school shit. This is what I'm trying to write now because this is what I think in my mind that
This is the shit people want to like what the fuck happened. This is what this is the beginning of my demise
So how far away was that from you like doing the bad deal?
Two years like that was that role that rolled my psyche right into that madness
That blew fucking out. That was like putting gasoline on a fire. You had like a mini drug empire
I never I never knew you had people dealing for you two guys. You ready for this who it was who?
Mike who called in for the podcast with the book about knives
Mike and car hall who never called in he got sick that day. Oh, yeah
Then I got mad but all the people that I was around those times I've called into this fucking show
Microbuck. Microbuck was a bartender and aspen so he'd take the coke with him and
He'd knock on my door one o'clock. He was better than car him and car were about the same and
Those days I wanted 40 for the fucking grand
So they would sell for 80. They made just as what I made
So they were hopping Jack. They were hopping fuck that shit. I had these motherfuckers hopped up
So it was just that it was weird like and I sold the ounces
So they did the fucking little shit and I did the ounces
So I knew the fuck I was dealing with and you know those half-gram
It was 50 people selling fucking coke in the streets and aspen in those days. I can imagine that. Yeah, I just had a niche
I knew fuck 50 40
40
Get up get rid of it. Give him a little rock show him a rock. Everybody wants to buy coke
They give him powder. Why give me these people powder give my fucking rock and two little lines of powder
They go nuts. They look at it and buy another one. Give me the get the same shit. Yeah, give me another one
Boom, you just sold an eighth. You just sold the fucking gram where you had nothing. So what I undercut the guy by $20
I'm still selling it. I'm moving double the amount because I'm undercutting them by 20 fucking dollars
You know, no, everybody was buying coke. It was like snowcombs
Like fucking snow cones Lisa. So what year was this?
This is 86
This is 86. How do people find out about four years old?
How do you I was at the time? Yeah, 63
And this is 86. So I was 23 years old
How do people find out about like a new drug dealer that has like a good price
Like how does that? I've never even had to deal with that. But is it just friends?
Car hall went out. Well, he was his guy was a bartender when you got one guy was a bartender
The other guy was a bartender call. I fucking told color how to do it when you want you want to sell coke
Sure, if you
If you want to sell coke, you gotta do coke. Oh
You're not gonna buy coke from some of you walks in like a secret agent
One FBI agent you want to buy coke from the most fucked up guy at the place
By the time Carl got out his jaw would not stop
There's people who could go out and control their jaw
Carl would be fucking John and I told Carl, let's tell you take 28 grams out
What's 28 times 80 10 times 8 1600 bucks, right? I think he was giving me like a thousand at the time or something
Right take a gram right off the top crush it up and give people bumps anytime you see a bitch
Give her a fucking bump because they're gonna keep chatting
They're the ones that are gonna sell it for you those dumb little bitches. Then you got to bang them and get the fuck out of that bar
You got to go and get so they would have three bars car hall would sell
27 grams and three bars
Because you give some weight to your friend come on do a bump of it
You got more on you. Yeah, hold on. Give me 10 minutes. I'm gonna go to the ATM machine
Whatever the fuck you got to get them hooked like new jack city
That's crazy. Wow. That's the sound thing new jack city. That's it
It's new jack city in a micro economic type of way. You know, what's that micro and macro economic?
This is how you do it
But in that little small little area you probably it probably pretty easy for you to get I know guys
That was buying coke from 10 years ago. They're still in business in hollywood
And they're geniuses
How much money would you make like a week for me? Sure a thousand a week just from me as a custom
No, no, no, no with you as a dealer
You want to make five to ten
20
If you're home during the week, you know, you just work nights. I know the guy I was getting it from was making like seven or eight
Living in hollywood. He would make one trip up north take a bus
Come back with school books u.s.c. Ra Ra Ra
Go right back to hollywood cut that shit up and he'd go to work from
Four in the afternoon to one selling coke and ecstasy
That's a lot of money he changed his number every 60 days
He wouldn't have it in this house
You want a lot to go to this house? He never told you where he lived
He made he met you in a predetermined location
You know, he never had it on him
He would always go busy and within five minutes some chick would show up
Some dude would show up
He'd have different people every night
And then he'd go you see that can over there. It's right behind that can you don't even know who dropped it off
He already know what you want. So he'd drop it all behind the can he'd have the chick drop it all behind the can
He's still in business in hollywood. I still talked to him once a month
He's just invited me to his bed his wife's having a baby
It's fucking tremendous
I give those guys credit. They they eluded the law. They eluded and he got busted years ago
Once you take a bust or two, then you know how they work now. You won't take a bust
Especially if you work smart
I'm not advocating drug sales here. We just got out of terp beans here. We're talking about fucking drugs
We want to talk about the u.s. See you in
Oh, I think I appreciate I appreciate you for not
Oh, Tony Bennett 1963
Oh, shit
How you feeling Lee? I'm feeling good. All right. Who takes care of you 35 milligrams. Look at you
Who takes care of you like Uncle Joey?
You got the Tony Bennett come on. He's the smoothest man
Keep it going. Keep it going. You gotta turn her down for this
This is every monday I play this with my mother the spirits a lot of candle I changed the glasses of water
You know what I'm saying? I close this gar smoke for a leg while and I get the party started
I'm gonna add this to my to my play. Oh, this this is the pet music here. This is slinging you play this for a freak
Stop if you give a two blast to coke those fucking panties fall right off that little onion opens up
You really eat that motherfucker the death jack
Wow
Was hilarious as before I came my daughters are like, okay, so dad, uh, tell us where the podcast so we can listen to this
Now I'm like, okay, don't worry, baby. I'm gonna text you when I get there. You guys are gonna say, okay
We want to listen. We're gonna watch it dad. Like I'm so glad I forgot
I
Be like that so we want to watch the party. Hmm. There's nobody for this one. No, no, maybe not maybe not when you get home
They'll both be there. What's an onion? You're like, what the fuck?
What's an onion daddy? What was he talking about? We really like to cook
What's up, Lisa?
Nothing the fuck is how many pounds you lose so far 75 look at you. You're a regular fucking joe atlas. Give me a crab
Give me a crab. Give the cat. Look at you. Look at you bad motherfucker 75 pounds. Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm almost back down
I had lost a bunch of weight juicing and I got down to somewhere and I'm almost back down
Are you still with that fucking juicing? No, I know it's not throw the juice away. Yeah, it's gone. It's gone. What do you do with it?
I gave it away to somebody. Would you give it to I don't know why you lying to me?
You still got you and Judy it's in your closet with dust on it that thing's not going on eBay a week before Christmas
But it worked for you
It didn't nobody didn't it didn't because I put it all back on plus 15 pounds. So now I'm in the process of losing again
Are you gonna have a juice again? No
Fucking kill stay off the juice
That's it. No pineapple juice. Nothing. No, that'd be cool. It's just the green juice. I made I can't even
I can't even look at it. He was trying to sell it to me one day. He's like, yeah
He was shaking it up. He's drinking in front of me because he has fucking face
Oh
That should put your body into shock though. Yeah, it kills not that great
I kept telling you you throw a hamburger in that like some hamburgers some apple juice
Never know what happens. It could be like a hamburger smoothie. You could be like make a fucking million dollars
You don't know until you try right?
What's going on here Dean? Tell me something good, brother. Oh, man
Just living man. Just looking forward to the holidays, you know, just uh christmas coming up
I'm gonna be uh ruffling lots of fights doing what I do, you know, what's this weekend?
Oh, this weekend is robbie lola. Were you being Las Vegas? I will be I will be there on saturday
See, uh, yeah thursday. I'm gonna be doing king of the cage here in california
Friday, I'm gonna do the rfa down in orange county saturday go up
vegas
That's amazing and you stay fresh you go to bed early. Oh, yeah. Yeah drops in your eyeballs and shit
Yeah, when I gotta be like that. Yeah, I gotta go to bed early
You're the best in the business. Otherwise, it's my responsibility to stay up a little bit late so as so I can sleep in
All right
That's a man. It's fucking tremendous that you're the best in the business as we have at the table right now
You've been voted, right? They did vote on I think that's crazy. You know
Yeah, they did vote on that at the best official. Hey, I'm so happy that uh, our fans appreciate the job we do
You know, you know people in our sport. Yeah. Yeah, I was watching football sunday called leapistov
Uh monday, and I was watching those guys when they now you could challenge them
Yeah, you could challenge them for a couple years and I was like that would work in mma. Maybe maybe I was just thinking that
But there's no real point to challenge unless it's stopped and then
Well, that's what the people that's the that's the hardest thing. Yeah, that's the hardest. Yeah
And I get it. I fucking get it especially now, you know, especially fucking now
And you know when somebody's out, they don't know they're out until they look at the tape
Well, did you hear about that ohio state player?
No, that guy he was a football player
He had wrestled all through a college and into senior year
And he he joined the football team and he had some concussions
And he went missing on wednesday and they found him yesterday. He got into a dumpster and killed himself
Because I don't know if it was because of this concussion stuff, but that they're checking for that
But yeah, they think that's what they're getting. They're saying that people get concussion like junior seo
That's the other there's other reasons why people might want to kill themselves though
That's true, but it's just it's scary to think about like
I mean
Mercy's never gonna play football, but I mean if you had a boy
Would you let them play football?
It's kind of weird. I know one thing I watched the hbo report which is tremendously interesting
At junior seo and six other players the most memorable one was the young brother
That was a sweetheart. You could tell in his face. He was just a happy young brother
He came down with a fucking gun and shot himself in front of the wife and kids
You know, he had six concussions. He was a defensive back
But this is my argument. This is the only thing I find. I'm no genius. I'm no specialist
What's been happening the previous 50 years? That's what I'm gonna. That's what I want to know
Has anybody looked into a report of the players that played with the fucking leather helmets
Guys football came out with leather helmets. Am I lying? Am I wrong?
Am I correct? Am I wrong?
How does anybody know? Does anybody get involved in this conversation here?
You know, there used to be leather helmets, right where those guys are strong as us. That's the other question
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, but that's the other question that they hit as strong as we did
You know, we're we're a superb human being now with all these minerals and all this shit that we're
These new ways of training and new methods of training. You're really optimizing the individual
There's so many ways to spend something or so many ways to interpret things
You know, it's like at the end of the day with some of these conversations. I'm like, I don't know
So I just want to ask the question and you could email me
At joeydears.net and in a week or so when you listen to this
I mean the hits I saw jack Lambert put on people right did he get concussions that he killed himself
The hits I saw Earl Campbell put his head down. I know Earl's in rough shape
They just replaced his hips or his knees. There's something going on with Earl
But you know, how is his mental state these players I saw took tremendous fucking hits Ronnie lot who lost a finger
Crushed people, you know, those guys that played defensive backs. That's what I left watching that
Thing on HBO thinking of especially defensive backs and linebackers
They're the ones and when the running back puts his head down. Yeah, her she'll walk
I see him all the fucking time, you know, how many hits that he fucking take to the fucking head
You know, just that Georgia that motherfucker got hit in the head with 20 fucking sledgehams
Those fucking white kids. What division is that in Georgia? That's the real fucking division
Those are big fucking corn eating white motherfuckers that hit hard. They throw weights around and they throw bales of hay
Those bales of hay weigh like 800 fucking pounds
So I just want to know is her she'll walk her. I want to know I want to know what the
What the percentage of those players in the 70s on top of it, you know, I mean guys who can do that are intense people to begin with
So, I mean, where's romanoski?
That motherfucker clocked 80 people in the head. So I want to know I want to know what else was it something in their diet
Was it a type of steroid or they were doing?
While they were getting hit or for the recovery
What drove these men crazy because I know that
What could it be or could it be their makeup to begin with?
Why are we different? You know, I am allergic. I goof on people who are allergic to peanuts
I didn't grow up with nobody was allergic to fucking peanut. They were allergic to eat the fucking peanut
I'm allergic to maple syrup and dogs. I was growing up. I couldn't have a dog around
If I walked in your house, even if you put the dog outside
And then I would be at the hospital. Yeah, I swallowing nose bleeding
Eventually the more dogs I played with
The thing went away
maple syrup today
Listen, I'm a fat dude that smells of rizzo
Can't wake up in the morning. I can't stand eggs
I can't stand eggs eggs is society's punishment on me
I eat them because that's
My option yogurt with the peanuts in it and bananas and raspberries. It works from time to time
But I'm hungry 10 minutes fucking later
So eggs at least fill me up scrambled
With ketchup
What about the ones on those ribs right there?
Yeah, that's Cuban. We walk. How are you? Yeah, that's called we walk. How are you?
That's a big Cuban dinner. What they get is a mound of fucking rice
Then they put a steak on that motherfucker
Then they put two fried eggs on that motherfucker
And what you're supposed to do is cut it with the yolk and the yolk mixes with the fucking rice
Now if that doesn't get you dick hard and put protein in, you know, these people only consume soy protein
Listen, Sergio Levo one of the greatest bodybuilders. We know that's what he ate for breakfast
That's what he did. We walk. How are you? I mean eggs on horseback
Are you kidding me or what are you fucking kidding me? That's what the Cubans call it eggs on fucking horseback
That's to really send you to a different fucking dimension
What's up, Lee? What are you giggling about cocksucker? So that's that's my thing when I watch that I want to know
What's the middle lineback of the chicago best that you did all those crazy movies?
During the 60s, he was fucking headbutt motherfuckers. Come on guys
He did all the police academy movies and all that shit
You know, he was supposed to be the hardest hitter of all time, you know, where's that guy today? So
I know juniors say I was a very nice guy. You heard that all the fucking time for years
There was a big player from the fucking anybody twit twit me big player from the fucking
60s for the chicago bears. What the fuck? Nobody knows here. Unbelievable. What am I gonna do with you guys?
What am I gonna do? What show is he on? He was on
police academy and shit
Bubba smith no
What the fuck no movies, I mean that movie any other movies
Uh, he did a couple of things
But anyway, you know, he was like the hardest hitter for chicago bears. Bubba smith keeps popping up. No somebody else
That's all right
But it really is, you know crazy that that's what I want to know the percentage of the other players where you know
Uh, ufc fighters. Yeah, they're getting stronger and stronger
You know, you walk around for years at 205 to 10 you draw. Anthony johnson's a strong dude, you know
I could see something like anthony johnson hitting you god forbid, you know, the wrong way in the fucking head boom boom man
See and he killed that fucking korean kid
young come kim
Think of a buku
No, what was the kid's name? Is it a buku kim? No, young come kim. What am I supposed to do? Young come young come young come?
Don't come kim. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was the greatest fucking fights ever on television
You could have robbed 10 banks
At that day, nobody would have known everywhere. I walked in there. Everybody was watching that fight
Everywhere you it was on wild world of sports everywhere you walked into that afternoon
Everybody was like hold on one second
You're like, what the fuck you watching the best fight ever finally I watch like the last four rounds
They were beating the fuck out of each other league
No referee no no Nevada commission. They threw everybody out. This is a fight guys. Fuck these two and that korean kid wrote on his chair
Uh fight to the death or something before he went out there
He he fought and he died in his dressing room that fuck. Yeah, man
1982 83
That's gonna be really bad if someone dies in a UFC fight. No, god forbid. I'm just saying that these guys are getting stronger
Yeah, these guys are getting stronger and sometimes this throws this judo throws involved
You never fucking know, you know with football. I mean, it's been okay, but all these concussions
This is amazing every fucking week. Somebody's got a concussion and you got to watch him now
I've had a concussion. It's not a good feel. No, I what does it feel like? I don't know. It feels like it feels like your body
I remember puking a lot. Oh dick buckets dick buckets. That's him dick buckets
Dick buckets was a hard-hitting motherfucker
How is he doing today? Is he suicidal? Has he been around? I mean, these are the things you have to look at
So, I don't know when they did that hbo thing what it's conclusive is something with the water
For me, I thought about it and it could be a drug with the hits to the head
Something they're giving them, you know after this guy has received two
Maybe they're giving them something
That they don't know it's experimental the FDA blah blah blah blah blah blah
I'm saying it's some sort of syndrome that guys are getting after concussions that make them feel this way, right?
That make them feel this way like cte or something something like that. So that's what I'm curious about are they giving them something
you know
Society athletes are getting sold
I've had a couple concussions. Yeah athletes are getting sold a bill of
Society is getting sold the bill of lady
You know, the there's vitamin people who really believe I I get sponsored by on it because
I've gone to dinners. I've hung out with Aubrey
And I know what Aubrey does
Aubrey talked to me for years about opening up on it before he did it
You know, he always talked to me about this combination of stuff when he went to like columbia
He would go and get ayahuasca and all that shit really these countries. Yeah the guy that does on it
It has a great podcast. He he writes a blog. He's very intelligent. I'm gonna go look at it
But what do they have on all three like he just has a lot of different
Old abalone. I don't know what they do all that stuff. I'm not very familiar with so I don't want to
Talk about but I know that he's into minerals and
Making he always took stuff to make you better or give you more energy
Right. So when he came up with on it and rogan was telling me about it one night
I saw his passion. It's the same passion. I have to stand up the same passion. I have for food
So I know that on it's good. That's why when he contacted me. I was like, absolutely
I was kind of proud in a way because
He does have a couple good products there that do work
But there's a lot of people that are selling you misinformation
They're selling you faulty fucking products. They're selling you shit that there's really nothing in it
If you take half those protein shakes in the market
They probably all sugar and half the protein in those fucking things and you wonder because sometimes there's some that you know
That's always the low sugar high protein one and some of them taste so good
And you're like, oh man, all my dreams have come true. The next, you know, the best tasting ones are always off the market
After a little while, maybe people find out, you know what?
Maybe it wasn't true what they said was in there or maybe there's some other stuff
You don't know what's fucking in there. You don't know what's fucking in there
The only protein shake, you know, is when you're making a home and you put wheat grass in that motherfucking
Sierhan sierhan and fucking peluca trees and ginger
You have sierhan sierhan and your fucking protein shake. No, but I like peluca trees
That's like gunpowder. You put that in your fucking shake like like what's his name in that movie about Africa?
He was snorting gunpowder and blow
What's that movie to do that fucking was selling guns?
Guns of war. Nobody. Oh, I didn't see that movie. No, uh, damn
What's a nickels cave? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's one of the god of war
That's when it was really last good movies. That's an interesting movie at the end of guitar fucked up and he goes down to this little village
And they're drinking on this dude keeps sending them shots of fucking coke and gunpowder
That's just tremendous in west Africa. What the fuck they are
And his brother was great the guy that won the academy award this year for whatever the dallas bias club
He was a transvestite. He was the brother in that fucking tremendous
He played a coke fiend and shit
If you haven't watched that movie, what's the guy?
Dogs of war it's on every fucking night on showtime or one of those it's not every night every night
And every night I stop what I'm doing and I fucking put it on see I don't watch a lot of tv
I do the netflix thing and but I gotta catch up to it. I got a lot of movies. I gotta catch up with gotta work
You know what man? I decided today. I'm getting rid of direct tv
As soon as the football season's over because I paid for the stupid nfl package. I'm just canceling it. I'm paying 150
I'm gonna get one of those amazon sticks
That you can play the watch espn app on
And that's really all I watch and then I'll buy a dvd if I want to
But I'm it's too much money. It was I sat down and thought about it and there's nothing on
It's crazy. How there's how little there is for how much we're paying
But there I found that you know, I I stopped watching tv
But then I found out I'm missing out when I check in and watch some tv
They're making amazing stuff man. Some of these tv shows are netflix is making great stuff
Yeah, you know televisions trying to fucking come back
And they're losing us. They're losing us little by little and they know it the cable networks and hbo's and we go to hbo's
You're just gonna buy what you use, correct? Yeah, what is that the rumor?
Uh, well, you can do that. You can just sign up for hbo go
But if you have amazon prime you get access to all like the hbo go things
I think or maybe all the old series
So it's there's just so much stuff available to you
No, I I do you watch a game of thrones. No, I don't have a I don't have hbo right now. I don't watch it
I don't watch it. I've heard it's great. I heard it's great too, but I mean, I don't have tv
But I I have to watch tv for my little entertainment. That's part of me getting entertained and refueling at night
You know, sometimes I'll scroll by espn and it bores me to death
Some of those reality shows late night. All right bad
You know, at least they're interesting the prison ones
There's always something on discovery or something that are fucking earthquake again. No, that was me. Okay
That's how he is. You got like a size 19 fucking footer being tremendous
And then you got like late movies, which I really enjoy. I enjoy a nice
Even if I saw you know, it was on last night. What more fucking eight millimeter with neck cage and james gandalfainy
None of you motherfuckers ever saw that. Yeah, that's all that nick cage is an investigator and he's investigating a missing girl
Right. Yeah, I remember and he has to and
Rocking phoenix is the dude who works at the fucking porn store
Are you kidding me or what? But last week you went to see one movie. It was the
Haven't seen eight millimeter is what I'm talking about
Eight millimeter wasn't out at the break. There's a fuck what's out of what's not out
You're supposed to call me and say she wants to go see eight, man
Wasn't a bad movie. Yeah. No. All right. Take the fucking stick out of your ass. All right. It wasn't a bad fucking movie
You're making crepes on a Friday. God's second
It wasn't a bad movie. It wasn't so he has to go investigate
That's how he gets him. He has to go get
Cut a deal with the fucking dude to make a porno movie from but then does he end up getting drawn in or something?
Fucking tremendously. It's on tonight. Don't forget the cock sucker. I'm gonna forget. Don't forget. I'm gonna start watching more tv
You know what I do online? I
You know, I just play guitar and sing real bad to my kids. It's about it. Nothing wrong with that. It's about it
You got a tough job. So, you know, you got to be focused and but I should watch tv
I feel like I'm out of it like half the jokes
I don't get because you know, I don't get the references, you know, I mean people are like making jokes today and like
I don't get it and then they'll explain to me. It was this tv show and this guy did that
Everybody else in the room got it and I didn't
So, you know, so I can be, you know
Culturally aware I need to spend some time in front of the television. I'm not gonna ask you something
I remember because somebody asked me this a while ago out in the club or something
They were like in
Minnesota last year nice kids came over to me and they said man you had her dean on
If they go to the school do they get certified in Minneapolis?
Okay, oh the school and pass it I'm sorry to change the subject
While it came to my mind
And I forgot to write it. That's a good thing to ask. Okay. So how it works is to
To referee a match to be an official you need to have a license
And the way the athletic commissions are work, especially all the ones that go to the abc
They say well, you need to have you need to go to an abc approved course an abc recognized course
So, yeah, you need to take the course that you come back
Which is your certificate and you go and you start doing shows amateur or pro shows and but you to get licensed you do need a certificate
So it doesn't automatically mean you get licensed there
But you should not be able to get licensed without passing it
But it doesn't if they if if they come and get a certificate from you
They go back to florida new york or whatever the fuck they're from and be a referee
Yeah, after they get licensed after they come back
They're gonna when they're gonna say look they they're gonna go apply for a license
They're gonna go. Well, what course did you pass? They go? I took this course. Is it abc recognized? No, you need to take an abc recognized course
So there's me john does one a couple other guys doing here in california
And they have them in new york too. Somebody does them in new york
They have someone the east coast somebody does them like there's a couple guys on the east coast
Who's the guy out of new jersey who does them a guy out of massachusetts who do them?
Yeah, I don't think anyone in new york because it's not, you know, sanction. Yeah, the u ofc's not sanction
But they have other mma events. Yeah, but they don't have mma. It's not supposed to happen in new york pro mma
Definitely and the amateur. I'm not sure really what goes on with that. I've never really done one out there
Yeah, and this is all because of a fucking union
That's who you're trying to tell me
I think I just know it's not legal. I know there's something to be involved with you
There's something with a union. It's something you know, you know, whatever that's above my pay grade the hotel workers union
Or something. Yeah, I think it's the uh, the culinary culinary union. Yeah
It's amazing. That's politics is getting involved
In the ufc fucking tremendous at least the fucking public is seeing it for what it is now
You guys are at home thinking your fucking congressman's working hard for you that martians aren't gonna invade your neighborhood
You better fucking set that alarm and get the shotgun ready, bitch
Because they don't give a fuck you know I'm saying at least I had you know
I can go for it right now a wise potato chip not a bag not three not four
Just one what flavor the regular one. That's east coast potato chips and shit. Why is this shit?
I was always an onion and garlic type of motherfucker myself
But right now I can just go for a plain chip just one one of those big ones with the brown edges and shit
Come on now. What could you eat right now? At least I had told me the truth
What do you got hidden at the fucking castle the fucking league? I don't got I have to go grocery shopping
You have to go grocery shopping. I do you believe like a deal with
I don't have I don't have so much stuff. What do you got in the house? You got any peanut butter nothing?
Yeah, I do. Well, that's a peanut butter and jelly. You got any white bread? Yeah, no
What do you got? Why don't you make those rice cakes and drown them out? I'm out of rice cakes
Oh, sure
He calls me up and I'm me. I'm like three times higher than I am now
And he tells me you're eating those like rice patties
Just I don't know why you don't like rice cakes so much
Because they're disgusting. They make you thirsty. Anyway, what the fuck you bothered me for?
I'm talking about referee school. Keep it up. I'll send you there for the weekend. You'll be an Idaho referee
I hate fucking
Jew events and shit, you know what I'm saying?
Lee boom boom, where's the fucking envelope say at?
Everybody's blowing me up. They know I'm in the church. What's happening now? Oh, shit. Oh, who knows? Yeah, one of my buddy Disco Dave
Oh, let's go Dave. Give him a shout out. Uh-huh. There you go
You love doing what you do and I could see it in the fights. I could see in the old fights
I can't tell you evolution. I'm not that good. I got terrible fucking eyes. I don't see how the shit you see
But I don't see how the shit they see in the football
I don't see. I never saw it. I never catch the first time. It's amazing to the catch. How much they catch
Going going so fast
And that's why it's kind of ridiculous when fans get that upset at a referee for making a call
like when the fan has seen
Thousands of slow motions and and you have to do it in real time. Like you can't look at it again
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, sometimes some of those calls are so close, you know
I mean, some of them are like like a fraction right on a like a little fraction of it
Of an instinct that we're calling you like, you know what you make your calling what you think it was
And if they took a poll with all the knuckleheads that watch television today
If they took a poll amongst knucklehead international
They would all say punch him till he drops or his eyeball fucking falls off
Of course, of course, they would say that and I don't see it that way
I could tell you tell that one punch when they're wobbly
You know, you know, and you know he's got one more left
So what do you look for when you're gonna like stop the fight?
Like what are you what are you looking for the person to be waiting to be doing?
What is the person who's gonna lose doing like what's the threshold for that?
Well, I mean, first of all, I'm looking for them to be are they doing something that makes sense
Are they doing you know, because I'm not judging on how hard they're getting hit
Or meantime you're getting I'm judging on what they're doing back and are they doing it somewhat effectively and does it make sense
If they got hit and they're waving their arms in the opposite direction of where the fighter is obviously
They're not in a situation to be able to deal with what's happening. So it's time for me to help them out a little bit
That's basically what I base it on
So once taking shots, are they doing something that leads me to believe they're going to be able to get back into this game?
Or is things getting much much worse?
Jew
referee
Overeem against bigfoot. Yes. Yes. Yes. It was on the other night
Uh-huh
And there was one punch where you don't have to be a referee. You knew overeem was night night. Oh, yeah, yeah
It was just a matter of you getting there whatever and he could take another two or what?
When I watched that that was one I was sitting there going
Only an idiot could tell he's not out. He's on his feet because he's got strong fucking legs
Right, right. His mind hasn't told his knees yet
To fall you you could see you could I don't want to see somebody take more abuse
They get knocked out they get knocked out the first shot if they argue with you and they tell you I wasn't knocked out
I was just thinking about Bermuda. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they always they always got something dog. I was blinking
I felt them. Listen, you were wrestling with fucking the matchmaker. Right, right. That was the fucking matchmaker. That's usually what we'll say
Yeah, you know, um, hey, let's let's watch the tape and we'll see about
Watch the tape and you want to you know, whatever
But when if you see it and you're a real man, you'll understand you were knocked the fuck out and it happens and
You'll think about it and go wow, I was I was in the fourth grade
Eating a fucking cookie with my favorite teacher teacher. Yeah. Yeah, and those are the things I've been knocked out
So I've had those things have you know where all of a sudden I'm in my living room
But all the people from uh from the the gym because I was in the gym or in my living room
I'm like man these guys never come over my house. What they doing here pass remote control or whatever
What you know what I mean like and that those are the kind of thoughts you're having
I've had guys say some strange things to me like guys, um
You know, tell me if they're gonna keep fighting at this place that they're um
They're gonna have to get better seats because they can't see the punches coming from when they're way out there when they have
Bad seats like that. You know, I mean, so yeah a lot of times guys, they're not thinking right for that minute or two, you know
The one that kills me is the fucking blood ones
Because once you're cut
And you accept the fact that you're bleeding you don't really feel it. Yeah
You don't feel it. You don't feel it if you have a heartbeat
I've seen it and I've experienced it that once I got I stepped on a glass one time in a fight
I was punching and I my foot just went
And I felt the glass go through the fucking sneaker the bottom of the bottle was cracked just perfect
Just perfect
So as soon as I stepped it was just perfect like if the whole glass would have been cut
Uh, the whole bottom like two inches up. I wouldn't have hurt myself
But since this was down here and this was sticking up and sharp and it went right through my cat or congress
Whatever the fuck I had on and I and after I accepted the puddle in my blood and I didn't faint
I kept pushing people and getting involved
And until a cop said to me, hey you you're fucking foot's drowning
You know, you're bleeding. I'm like, what are you talking about? That's when I felt how much I was bleeding
You don't even when you have broken arms and limbs. You don't fucking know didn't
What's his name before the couple rounds with a torn bicep
Your adrenaline carries you through once that motherfucker they that you look back to the dressing room and you sit down for three minutes
And that fucking rigor mortis sends in that rigor mortis sets into your head and the punches you got and your blood
That's when you realize but at that moment
You don't even feel that fucking cut and then in the cuts
They're really at the end of the day the cuts as far as the bleeding
I mean someone could bleed a lot before they're in danger of bleeding death more than it's going to happen for one of those cuts
But so that's not the issue. But we're just wondering about are they going to get ripped open further?
Is it going to be they're going to have nerve damage or something like that or think you know, those are the things we're worried about
Or like the poor young lady with the ear when we're in for a year is going to get ripped off
You know what I mean? So that's what we're going to stop the fight. That was tremendous. That was tremendous
That's a shot. I you pay $10 for I would have paid $12.50 to get like a little ear blood on my face. You know what I'm saying?
I'm like a pimple that won't go
Hey, the ladies bring it man, and she was mad. She was she was really upset with me for stopping that fight
She's like look i'm i'm here to do this. You know
Yeah, the ladies are no joke. Oh my god. I would have fainted if I was direct
That's how you stop the fight for sure once the ref passes out. It's all over. I don't give a fuck
Your ear is hanging off your head. You dummy
It's oh god almighty. I've been to a couple fights where the motherfuckers are bleeding
And I gotta give him credit
I want to give him like 200 bucks out of my pocket because I couldn't do it
Joe what the what's the joe? Whatever when he fought bj pen?
Oh, joe stephenson joe stephenson. I fainted. You know what that was a that was a pretty buddy match
I fainted in my living room. What happened?
Oh, he hit him in the head and there was blood and it was a perfect shot
It was it was a I had gone back to give him instructions
That was what it was one of the most like as far as the precise punches because I went back to give him instructions
And they his on his pads they're working this thing out and then they're holding it low
And he drops down and throws a kind of a strange unorthodox punch
And I guess his design for when someone changes the level and shoots in on you
You're gonna catch him right there and just as he worked the combination on the pads it happened just like that
It's like I went in there and watched the pads
Then came out the rep to fight first thing it happens boom that punch it lands perfectly
And bad night for joe
Way to get him. Hmm. Yeah, right. You're right. You're right in the forehead. Yeah
When I was a kid 2020 that's the one that's on friday nights when a wrestler exposed wrestling tricks
Oh, oh, yeah
When I was a kid one night a rat and I was like the highest rating fucking show ever
It was a 2020 about wrestling. Yeah, it was that's the one where where dr. D slapped the guy
That was one of them. That was one of that's when they went after the boy. That was just an open hand slap
Oh my god, the guy went down. He started holding on to his ear. I can't hear
Yeah, he walked up and he said it was just he said, yeah, I think pro wrestling's fake
Oh my god, just smacked him right in the face. This guy thought he was one of those cute, you know
Brent must burger looking like motherfuckers. This guy clocked him in the ear with a cup hand
He sued mbc. He sued somebody. Yeah. Yeah, he sued the wrestler. He sued somebody
Well, they did all this thing about tricks and that
Again, don't fucking listen to me
I just know don't shoot the messenger
The big thing was you got revved up
And the blood went to your head and then you took a razor blade and you cut your head here
And it bled a lot because it was like, why would there be blood there at that time?
Well, because I think yeah when you're revving up, yeah, you get and facial cuts bleed a lot, right?
Something you would cut right there with a razor blade
And the blood would come out every time your heart beat the blood would go boop
And television people go nuts if you want, you know
And they cut themselves because they don't want those the ratings will go right up
Ratings go right through the fucking roof. It's like putting on a green bag game
And there's two feet of snow everybody. Well, that's a train wreck people love that shit. Could you do that to yourself?
Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go home and do it right now and play with the cats and jump up and down
What the fuck is wrong when you can I do that to myself? No
But if somebody was giving you 30 grand
Yes, and you're all revved up you get punched in the head for a living. What's a car? What's three stitches?
Who gives a fuck?
You might go to a bar and get hit with a bottle of Michelob and there you are getting stitches on with some dumb
Bitch at the bar. It's a second thing pro wrestling is scripted. Those dudes go through some stuff
When they train like I was to train with these pro wrestlers over at a no-key dojo
And taking those bumps and the things they would do to each to themselves
Like this guy's gonna body slam you on your head
But not only that I'm gonna jump when he picks me up so he can get me higher before oh, man
It's crazy. Last night. I was in the Eddie Bravo podcast talking about
If if I was a musician
If I was with the fuck Lee
with the fuck Lee
So you got that
Sucking phone on there texting or whatever the fuck get that phone up there. You can't suck it
It's getting twits from fucking some
20% off chicken or some sushi in the valley
You're gonna fucking puke and blame it on my edible later. Cut suck it. I was talking about a musician right now
Uh, there's a book about everything I learned about business. I learned from the grateful dead
Yeah, at the end of the week, bro, the grateful dead made it happen
They did for 20 years what people aspire to do they played every night and they sold our concerts
And people had a good time. They smoked dope. They stunk like shit. You know, they camped out. Right, right, right, right. Yeah
That's what you want when you're a musician
So what they had a whole
Thing around them. They had a whole community a whole a whole like, you know, I don't know commerce was going on
That's shake down street. Yeah, shake down street all that shit. It's just brilliant. Lee. It's very fucking brilliant. But
I didn't know anything
About entertainment. I knew nothing
Until I did the longest yard and I saw those wrestlers work
I saw the wrestlers do things
That actors comedians don't do
First they're very accessible
They know when they do those live events
It's all about the pictures and the autographs at the end of the fucking fight
So I remember being at restaurants and adam sandler would be there and people would bug him
When I did the longest yard the most bugged people on the set
were adam sandler and
Not goberg, but the other guy steve
Austin the one I was supposed to be on his podcast
Steve
Stone Cold Austin
Stone Cold was at the bottom of end of his career. I guess night 2004
And him and adam sandler would get tortured everywhere the most. I noticed this. This is just stupid shit. I look at
Who's getting tortured here? Who's the biggest fucking star in the room?
Think about that. Steve Austin is a fucking wrestler and adam sandler gets 20 million fucking a movie lead. What are you looking at me like?
All right, so
This is a guy that was getting bugged just as much as the number one movie star in the world at the time
Whatever the fuck he was
But it was how he reacted to it adam had bodyguards
Steve Austin didn't
You know when we did the longest yard kevin nash
Would leave on wednesdays to do an event somewhere in north carolina
And he would bring back the tapes and we would watch them and giggle
But at the end it was him with the fans at the end hugging on fans. He taught me that angle of it
Like he really those guys they commit
That's just the one part of it and then what they do to train
Those motherfuckers are in great great shape and they get hurt
They get fucking hurt and they work through that shit
And they get money right the wwe pays them. I don't know the league. So please don't attack me. I don't know wwe
Yeah, I think that's right. That's wwe. I think you know, I all I remember is being a kid and watching chief chief j strong bow and watching
You know fucking all those crazy motherfuckers the arab dude and shit and I stopped watching over the years
And then now it's like, you know, whatever coal. I don't even know those fucking people
But I learned a lot about entertainment from the wrestlers
And then you think about it. Yeah
That's been on for fucking 50 fucking years
Since I came from Cuba, there were men wrestling on tv
And then one day you find out it was fake and you're like, I'll fuck those bitches
So when the dude started showing blood
That always made you think twice about wrestling. Is it fake? Is it fake? He's bleeding from his fucking head
Come on, Lee. You gotta put two and two together cocks like I'll wake up
I didn't give you these edibles so Confucius enthusiasm. I'd say you sit there and stare at me like I owe you $20
Fuckin her beans here, you know, this is
Fucking does the best fights and shit in the world and you're sitting there. You don't ask them no questions
No, it's fun. No, you know, I think the MMA athletes do that too. Those guys always sign those guys. They have to so nice
They have to yeah, because I think you know for so long that everybody we're just so happy that people appreciate what we did
You know, listen, I know one thing when I go to watch the Dallas Cowboys play on Thanksgiving day
against the Eagles
I don't go there thinking
But if I buy the most expensive ticket, I'm gonna get to shake Jerry Jones hand
But when I go to the most expensive ticket the UFC
I know I might get to see Dana White and take a picture of them
Or chuck ladell. It's pretty intense guys
That's one thing I saw that I thought was brilliant from the beginning
UFC on tv is one thing
And I gotta say I'm pretty spoiled because Joe's my dear friend. He's taken me to him. So now I'm
I pick and choose a UFC event is a fucking pretty phenomenal thing to go watch
Especially in Las Vegas to me. That's where I go
That's there's all these things that you see there that you don't get to see at home like the certain like the mid like the those uh
Videos they put together like to the different songs or whatever that are like really well done
And you only get to see them there
You get to see a lot of things and you feel this energy before the fights
I've always
Enjoyed those fights to the next level like I don't tell Joe what my plans are to after I do them
Because I I don't want him to panic. We've done acid at those fucking things good for you
When Anderson silver kicked Vito Belfort me and Ari were an acid
Are you fucking kidding me me and Ari were an acid?
You have to prepare for this shit. We always take addables. We always know when to take them
We always pop them at 445 and then we pop another one at six
Then we pop another one at seven once Bruce buffer says it now. That's okay Bruce buffers
Bruce buffer alive man the stuff that Bruce does you they don't get to see you don't get to see that
The 360s he jumps all around just the way people walk in and out
I've seen you know after a fight a fight sometimes he goes in the locker room and two fights later he'll come out
And be walking right there with a lump in his head talking the fucking
Somebody who was in the audience that he wanted to talk to so it's a pretty phenomenal event
You know if you and you heard me the other night, I don't go to events
I just stopped going to him like I won't go to the one in LA, you know
I won't go to the u.s.c. now
Not so much fun. No, I like the hotel. I like going right downstairs like a doctor
Then you go right upstairs take a shit smoke another joint and you're back and you walk around the fucking casino like a doctor
I got a hop around casinos like some fucking immigrant
Going from one hotel to the other taking buses and circus desolato and do that shit
And if you and then if I go to an event here
I'm always thinking about getting on to the 405 of the fives. I'm not watching the event resting
The whole time I'm I gotta get the fuck out of here because not I'm gonna be in bumper to bumper
Right, you know, so that's the other thing. I don't want to be involved in that
When the fight comes saturday night once Robbie Lawler gets in the cage with little Fidel
After the first round, I get a little fidel little fidel
That's a good one. Yeah after the first round. I get up
Is that is that only you says that or am I missing out? Do a lot of people call him that? No, that's just me
Cuban I got that's a good one. I don't like people with those fucking beads. They make me nervous and shit
So little fidel, right? It's fighting the law. He's on the headline
It's not
The Guillermo oninho. That's the co-main event
Right when the lawler fights
Fidelito after the first round I get up already
I get up
I walk up
People say where you going? I'll be right back. Fuck you be right back. I'm out of here
But the time they come out for the second round. I'm already by the fucking top of the stairs
Right by that time they let you sit out and hang out and mingle the cops don't bother you no more
Again if they don't get knocked out
Then I walk a little closer to the door
And I go by like a french fry store and I just sit there. They're closing up
And I watch them on it
It goes into the fourth round. I walk 30 more feet
And I watch by the escalator right by the tv
So does he knock some out of the other guy knocks the other guy out of my man here comes out and says it's over
I head for the fucking door. I already know the decision
I'm gonna sit there and get trapped
What if somebody drops a stink bomb or a little fucking bomb or something I'm trapped down below fucking sniffing that
That's who you give away your game now. Not everybody's gonna be up there. They don't know no people don't think like that
They want to sit down. That's what's the ending. Let's watch the credits. Go fuck yourself the credits. Get the fuck out
Get up. Why's the pop going don't trip cocksucker?
What's up herb dean? What the fuck the outlaw josey monday december 1st
24 days till christmas get your shit together cocksuckers. You know what i'm saying? Let me give some shout out to you
Lee you're sitting there like a fucking mummy of death cocksucker. Never again. Can you even know that?
Mick gray down. That was true. I love you brandy lee your sexy bitch brandy lin your sexy motherfucker jay
Gomez throwing heat chris parker keith roberts
Sergio or tega
Talking lay. I'll see you this weekend
And kaspa 2307
Stay in black bitches
What?
Listen, we're getting high in the 16 days. What's it? The eight days of fucking yamaka
Hanukkah we're eating an edible a day forget the 30 for 30 leaf tapped out
But his mom leaves on the 16th. So starting tuesday september 16th
We're gonna eat a lettable and light a candle for the fucking jews. That's how we roll either you're in or you're out
All right, I can't tell you where you get your edibles. You got to do that shit on your own
But you people think that what kills me about
America's that they think that all california denver they're legal
We can't we can't get those edibles. You don't need these edibles
Buy a quarter ounce of some fucking mexican brown weed
Put some butter in a frying pan take all the sands out in the seeds
Cut that motherfucker up small
And start cooking on a low flame and suck that butter out of that thing
And let that butter go to the side and get all greenish and shit
And you already have your brownie batter mix and you squeeze that powder in then you throw more weed in that motherfucker
Another stick of butter and you squeeze that motherfucker
The butter and you keep it all low. You see I'm saying you don't burn the fucking butter
And then you drain it into the brownie mix and you stare that brownie mix up again
You taste it from time to time
Who the fuck are you and again you fucking burn that weed all the way down man with light fucking a little bit of olive oil
Mix it up nice nice nice
You stare that motherfucker up you squeeze it down you keep dumping it in the brownie batter you stare and that's it
You when that weed looks like that you throw the weed away you throw the frying pan the water you put some fucking
Bounce in there whatever the fuck you put soaked this shit. I don't like people don't fry soaked this shit
You gotta soak your fucking frying pan and you get the brownie
You put some cooking spray on the on the tray and you pour your brownie max and then you cook in the oven
It's just as good as we're getting out here
If you don't eat one don't get you're going to eat two you'll look like lead by the end of your fucking brownie mix
That's your uncle joey's telling you this. You don't need to eat these elbows
This is just a lie people selling you this shit the best edibles. I've made the ones I've made at home
I can't believe you just gave out a recipe for how to do that. What the fuck? This is pirate fucking radio
This is a podcast. We're dropping knowledge Herb Dean is here. I can't not give her being an education
Maybe he wants to make a fucking brownie. What the fuck am I to judge him?
You know, I mean I was listening
Sure now somebody calls her deal and says, you know how to make these brownies joe dears is talking about boom
He's Johnny on the spotlight
Yeah, but what about like Cassius Morris up there? He shouldn't know how to do that. Why not?
Cassius Morris is slinging dick. He's working for what's his name? He's getting paid let him be 16
Who's just on the news?
I know did you see the Cassius Morris don't fuck around. Cassius Morris is a little young kid does a podcast
Okay, for two years now since he was like 13 calling people interviewing people buying tickets to concerts
Fighting with security to get back there. Really? These people walking around another dude
Fucking Momo with the movie
Let's watch fucking papa you fucking dummy and here's this 12 year old figured it out you
Unbelievable I got affected. I'm sorry the holidays get me all fucking hyped up
Hyped up like public enemy anywhere. I'm sorry, brother
What's up? What's happening?
You know, I'm just enjoying you man. Keep it busy. Yeah, I'm excited this weekend. I'm excited about these fights
I like El Nino's fighting the kid from the warming. I don't even know who's on the end of the court
That's exciting to keep him in walking. Yeah, that's a good fight. Now. How many fights are you allowed to
Ref a night before if you have the main event?
I I I do I ref between three and four fights. So you have two and two and four
So yeah, I'll either have three or four fights. Even if you have the main event
Yeah, they're over work. Yeah, they don't do it like boxing boxing if they have the main event a lot of times
That's the only fight they have they'll be back in a special green room and then they you know, they're back
They're doing their thing us. We we just ref fights all night. It's better that way you get warmed up
You stand focused on what you're there to do
It's been a while lately watching the UFC it's been and it's getting more
Referee involved it seems lately. Well, I think people are
Learning more about what the referees do so they can everyone's an expert. Everyone knows the rules
Everyone can make a commentary. Yeah
I it's um
Yeah, I think I think it maybe has been a little more ref involved. Why do you say that? Well, the last couple fights
The ref has come into the picture. It seems like you know, usually there's fights. This guy knocks this guy out
There's always a bad decision
There's always a bad decision
But then there's always that fight that suspect
An early stoppage
A blood thing, you know, so right away
You're involved big john's involved
Evil avian is involved. Yeah, masaki. Somebody's involved. Somebody's questioning you
You know and and and they go nowhere. That's what kills me about the questioners
They go nowhere. It stays. That's it. You just waste the three hours of your time crying about an early stoppage
You know nothing about you've never been punched to the head
I've never punched nobody through the head. You could tell by a certain sound the guy makes
Well at the end of the day, I mean, we we know why we're here
We're here to uh to protect these guys and make sure that they don't receive any unnecessary injuries
And try to make sure the event happens as clean and fair as possible
And we're not there to win a you know a popularity contest now
It's great that everybody, uh, you know pays attention to what we do
And give us some sort of respect for the things we're doing. It feels really good
But at the end of the day when I start counting on that or depending on that
That's when I've lost because my job is an official to make decisions that sometimes people aren't going to be happy about
And but that I know I can sleep with it tonight. And so, you know
I um after every show, you know, sometimes I no matter what I'm going to look on the internet and someone's going to have something to say
And before I used to never I used to never go on the internet
And so I was always kind of out of the loop with our sport because I don't want to get involved
I've seen officials go down that path more down the internet and they're arguing with kids on the underground and stuff
I'm like, don't you know that that's probably a 12 year old you're arguing with
This dude is like his mom is telling him to feed the cat and he's like, no
I got him on the line and he's pissed off. We're going at it
So I left the internet alone. But now through the social media
I do have my own social media at first I didn't have one
But there would be guys who would make up their own fake ones of me
The only way I could get them shut down was to make my own. So no, everyone can go right to me
Everyone can just go right to me with what their opinion is
I would love for somebody to hit me. I get back from the fight
I know at the end of the fight, I know with Joe that they would give you one from the box
They always give you a copy of the fight. I know Joe would always gamble at night
Somebody would give him a copy or if you asked for it or something
But I took that up to my room and I you know relaxed took a shower got room service
I'd always look at it
Just me
Would you ever be tempted to look at your tape in the night or once?
Oh, no, I watch no, I watch my fights
I watch fights afterwards
Especially if I have some you know, even if I don't have thoughts about or even even if I thought everything was perfect
There's fights that I've watched from years ago and I look back on. Hmm. No, what was I thinking there?
Why did I do that like that? You know what I mean from years ago and you know
And then some of my fights that uh that happened recently. I'll always go back and rewatch it again
I mean we live by that replay as soon as we're done
Whether no one's complaining or not first thing you see us do we're looking up at the replay because we want to know
If we did the best possible job, we could have done if there's going to be some other information from a different angle that we might see
You know what I mean? So yeah, we're always uh watching tape and always trying to think of better ways to do it like hey, well like um
You know, I can think of a mistake I made uh
Or or loski versus a paid apano
You know, uh, I remember, you know our loski paid apano is like going after a foot lock and I'm
Wondering and now paid up our loski's hitting them in the head
And I'm trying to get close because I think he might be putting them out but in my mind
I'm thinking
Man our loski's got incredible base. How's he not getting rolled from this foot lock?
How's he not getting how's he keeping his base like that? Well, he was grabbing the fence
I didn't see it because of my position. He's so tall. He's grabbing the fence over me
But that's an adjustment I've made you know and since then always up against there
I have a new position that I always pick at that time so that I'm able to see everything, you know, and that's
What were there to do?
I could tell when I see other events
Like they call me today, you know, I'm going to vegas in the morning
They call me today. Can you go come in for this thing at 2 30?
That means I won't get to vegas till six or seven o'clock at night, which sucks because I want to go to wain
The wain is my chance to look I smell I smell you smell you smell certain things just these certain things
Not that I'm gonna gamble. I'm not one of those assholes
But it's always just good to know to see if it affects the fight, you know, right your mind. Wow
He was all skinny yesterday looking all green and shit
Like yeah one of these edibles, but now look at him. He's all slim Jim McGoo
Just little things and you see there there if they're scared if they have a lot on their mind
How they're acting if they jovial
If they just relaxed, you know, I love seeing all that shit. Yeah, I think that sometimes the fight is
Is won and lost there by how they come out and their confidence level, you know, there's ways
No, you're true
We've seen some things, you know with andison he put the mask on and you get people rattled up and get them out of that game
I always talk about one of the greatest ones of all time was reberto durand before you support sugary linen
They went to rondo walking in the street and they were walking at each other
Sugary had his family with him and sugary stopped and he goes, honey, this is reberto reberto
And reberto's like tell your wife to suck my dick and all this shit and fucking sugary
That was it. He took him out of his game
After the fight, I'm gonna have a suck my dick real good and swallow my fucking cum. You fuck
You know in front of his kids
That's it. Wow that happened. That's it. Yeah, get the durand book get the sugary books
Sugary talks about it one of the specials on HBO. He did years ago. He goes. He said things to me that were fucking
I couldn't even put him in my computer
That's when he lost everything for him. He was like this guy's a fucking thug. He's a street garbage. No
That was his way of fucking with you durand
You know, he just got you. That's it. You know when when Muhammad Ali fought joe frazier
Wasn't he out there pointing the gun at him? He had a
started pistol and he kept going in africa
Come on down joe. I'm gonna shoot you and you know just to get him out of the fucking joe frazier is like
Is this motherfucker or george form was one of them?
There's an africa that was an african. He's like, was this motherfucker really gonna shoot me?
Come on down joe
You know, whatever the fuck that's that's people fucking with you. That's taking you out of your game
You know, he's I mean mom
I'll leave is one of the best in the game but doing that shit
Yeah, you hear a lot of the jokes that some of these fighters do to each other, you know
Didn't it just happen to keep people awake or different things to frustrate them and things like that? Yeah, keep people awake
Well, they're like maybe like send their friends have their friends find out where the room is at and play pranks and
All those type of things, you know, I think they're just having with tito ortiz and steven bomber
It came out like a couple days after their fight
What happened that tito ortiz was sending seven bomber pizzas and and girls
So like at the middle of the night he had to go and get like a motel six or something right next door
I heard something about that, but that's that's not the that's a pretty old old trick like guys do would do that a lot
I don't seem like I think it's probably pretty hard to find out
Where these guys are at now, but that's what guys used to do. Yeah, I think one of the
weirdest fights this year that was on the other night
I watched frankie egg against club cubs wants and I was out of town and I watched it that night when I came home
I thought it was phenomenal. I didn't get to see it. I forgot how good frankie egg was you forget how good these guys are
And that night I couldn't sleep I went to bed early and I got up at three and main event was on the UFC channel
And it was two fights. It was chris wide bananas and silver the first one
and it was
On aloe vera against
Frankie egg
I don't even know what the fuck i'm going with this, right?
What the fuck was I watching god damn I forgot what the fuck we're talking about see that
I'm sorry about that
No, thinking about something about the referee guys. Oh, yeah, we talked about the referee
We talk about guys doing things to get guys out of their game. We talked about um
Yeah, I don't who the fuck no see what I'm saying. Well, yes. I look at you and I get all emotional
I'm sorry. We're here with the what about you. What about what what what um, you doing any stand-up lately?
When's the next stand-up you know
I'm home now this friday. I'm gonna be at the south point casino in vegas the dirty at 12 30
I'm gonna swing by and do some jokes, you know, I'm gonna go to vegas and just swing by and that's it
Just get out of town. I'm home for the month of december. I don't like flying this fucking month. This month is a right
You know, all you have to do is go to vegas this month or maybe phoenix
I'm gonna go to go. I'm gonna be around here and then i'm gonna go to vegas and then i'm gonna vegas twice and i'm gonna go to phoenix
Right, you gotta go to phoenix. So that's it, but you're home, you know
Every year people sit at home and see people at the airport with blankets on
Chinese people breathing on you and they're like look at these assholes now you're becoming one of those assholes
So I don't want to fly
There's no reason for me to fly in that window. It's just a cause look at this weekend
It happened last week this weekend in chicago. There was drama already
They had a 1.2 mile long
Security line because so many flights were cancelled
Like this reporter measured how long the security line was 1.2 fucking miles. You want to fly and see your family
Yeah, I believe it midway. I think I believe it. I believe you have mid. I believe it
A couple weeks ago at a port and the security line was fucking huge. They're getting big
But now some airports ain't making you take off your shoes. Yeah, boston didn't make me knowing belts
No, no, they're not making you
They're telling you to come through with everything you jacked on your sleep apnea
I'll even take the computer out of the bag. That's the suckers. Just leave it in there. They're not gonna fucking know
Don't take it out no more. Herb Dean. Fuck those motherfuckers. I never do. Tell them Herb Dean
You know, they always ask me to take it out again. You don't know nothing. You're deaf
Give me fucking signals, whatever. Just throw a pan signals. They don't he's definitely among those sewers. They don't fucking know
When is the next uh, referee?
Uh, next referee clinic school. That's gonna be uh, I do it all every year. It's on april single demand
Okay, right. It's my third this year. So, uh, single demand because uh,
Well, it is May 3rd, but I do it in a single demand weekend because I know that Mayweather
Usually is beating up somebody on that day. So I know there's not gonna be a UFC usually so that's
Usually I do it
Sync on a mile a weekend. That's very interesting
Well, now they're throwing them into the hat. It looks like Mayweather's gonna have to fight packy out
But who gives a fuck by the time they're fighting gonna be 84
Who wants to watch that fucking psychiatric war fight? I don't need that shit in my life
And how many days is the clinic?
Uh, it was two days, but I'm expanded to three
Just to do what what are you at? Well, just because there's there's so much stuff to cover and uh, you know
I we do long days on those two days. Sometimes we're doing 12 hour days easily
Sometimes it's a lot of material to comprehend. Yeah, it's a lot of a lot of material to cover. So I want to add another day
Do you put a lot of them on tape and they get to see each other? Oh, yeah
A lot of tape a lot of tape I put them on tape
Well, because what one of the things that we do is there's um, we teach unified rules and scoring criteria and you know
referee mechanics and stuff like that and talk about a you know, we watch my mistakes and things like that
But then, um
Also, I want to make sure that people understand the sport because sometimes people are like, well, I want to be around this sport
It's it's pretty sexy sport, but I don't want to get punched in the face. So maybe I'll be an official
So, um, I want to make sure that they understand the sport
So I have them teach me technique and we put it on video
And it's it's pretty cool. It's fun technique. I haven't teach you
You know, they're they're they're the values of judge you're there to evaluate
The effectiveness of the mixed martial arts techniques. So I'm gonna have them, you know, okay
Show me your game, uh, you know from the on the cage, you know, show me some cage control on there
Teach me by the numbers teach me a darts by the numbers
And so they teach it and then, you know, I have a evaluators there that fill out a form on the technique
Was it, you know, did they show competence?
And then it's all on on tape. So they say, well, hey, I think my technique was stunning. You just don't know what you're talking about
That's fine. We'll have somebody else look at the tape. Some of the tapes are pretty funny
um
And then also if you're a referee you have to understand the what people are doing so you can keep them safe
You know, part of our job is to do a little submission defense for the guy when he taps out when he can't do anything about it
Or unlock the chokes after the guy taps out if you don't know
How the submissions work you can't help the guy defend against them. So at least you want to know that you
Do understand the stuff and the details it takes to do it to someone who's not letting you
It's not you just can't say, you know what this looks like a career move for me
I'm gonna go pay for this and get in there. You want the guy to be an established martial arts not much established, right?
But at least to have no two years be a blue belt. Maybe yeah to understand the techniques have to have that been taught
We tie maybe hung around a gym for a while sparred with some people and those were just to get kicked them out
Exactly this to get kicked in the knee, you know how somebody's walking or one of the most uh controversial fights this year
That the other day I still saw people talking about it was the cuban kid against tim kennedy
And the more I look at it like the other day they brought it up again on ufc
That was big john's fight. Yeah, it was big john. That was a big john fight
And the big thing was that at the end of the day he had vaseline too much vaseline on his face, right?
He was stalling a little bit, but still he was uh
Would you have done anything different?
You know, I'm not here questioning big john
What we all learned. Yeah, he's a good
But I think what happened is when he when big john went to correct it
Then you know, there's a little bit of confusion with
The with the corners and whatnot right there
So it ended up turning to this long who's on first kind of a thing, you know, I mean, so it was just one those
One those situations that every now and then kind of happens, you know, and then I believe there are some language issues as well
You know, so I'm not sure I don't want to speak for him on what it was
Well, he's cuban they cuban people know how to work it
They understand english when it's beneficial to them. I'm not sure if it wasn't him
I think but yeah, who but I believe there was a corner guys
Yeah, might have been so yeah cubans have the funniest corners
You know who's got the funniest corner in the business. Who's that or hey modra?
Yeah, the guy who corners him is has to be one of the funniest cubans
I've ever heard because he says things that are fucking hilarious
How i'm not george madder vallon. I just don't call time out to laugh
Is beyond me like what's he said?
Met a long guy at aso. That means bitch lap him. You can't bitch slap somebody in the ufc
You know metal in a bottle or you know spanish people and their fighters at heart the boxers
Their corners are so unorthodox there because it sounds fucking barbaric in spanish the way they say
But I always hear the corner say metal in guy at aso, which means smack. I'm like open-handed
You know, you can't smack somebody open fucking handle like that
You know like like a like in the 50s like a clerk gable type smack
But he has a hilarious fucking corner. I forget this shit. I always tell jojo
You have to make a point to listen to mind your vows corner
How emotional they get now they talk to me. Didale didale means
shoot
But in spanish it seems different it works
So didale means throw those punches. Mm-hmm didale, you know let those hands loose, but they just say didale that covers all the bases
Do they covers everything in spanish? It's not like in english. I have to say four different meanings to one thing
But he has a funny fucking corner. What li look at the shape of your league
Fucking mushroom whatever the shirt on what are you gonna eat tonight?
You're sitting there. Look at me. Look at me thinking about a cuban sandwich, aren't you?
You're thinking to yourself. That's nice is mambo open tonight. We went to a cuban restaurant the other night
Myself my wife the baby li
We got some nice cuban fucking picadillo some chopped beef with some olives in that motherfucker with some black beans and rice
We got the combo platter a couple fried bananas
Some empanadas some croquettes made of ham. Come on now. Okay, where's this at?
Right in glendale on victory boulevard. Are you eating cuban food dog? Oh, yeah
Yeah, you don't fuck around there right food the chorizo was really good chorizo was on fire don't fuck around
Those cubans do it right there from new work
So at least we got something to talk about, you know
Fucking herb deans in the house. I'm so excited. I'm a fan of her dean
I'm a fan of what you do and I'm a fan of
In our conversations. I'm a fan of what you stand for. I never knew that
That's what you stood for to keep the fighters safe
And it's you know, it's a nice feeling it's a night. I know you were in there with Anderson silver that must have been
Those are screams. You're here for fucking life when you hear that type of shit, you know
It's a tough job. It's a lot of respect for you, man
It's like you say with answers
It's it, you know, we see our our heroes get in there and put it all on the line and it's real
It's really happening right people are people going in there and they're taking risks
You know, that's they're not playing tiddlywinks. It's a tough sport. You know
It's a very tough sport. Where can they find you? What web page can they herb dean dot com?
Yeah, that's got the referee schedule referee school if you want to follow me on twitter
That's herb dean mma same with instagram and I think my I think my facebook is herb dean ufc
You know, and that was funny that one got started by this kid
He was on there pretending to be me. He was saying horrible things. He was saying like you say things that
He was saying horrible things
He was like he was like was quoting like all kinds of gangster rappers like those sort of kind of stuff
I was saying sometimes I'd like it, you know, I mean I was like I don't want to repeat the things he was saying
But people were harassing him so much
Like this is not and but he had like 10,000 followers. Yeah, a lot of people didn't like me on there too
Then finally he gave it up to me, you know, he gave he gave me the um
That he gave he called me. It's like I want to turn and it turned out to be uh, I think a 19 year old kid from from uh, australia
Thank you in australia. Okay. I see the picture of you a girlfriend a little skinny little neck, you know me
And I was so mad. I was like, why did you say all those things? He's like, well, I like
Rap music and basketball players. So I just you know, kind of and I like, you know, I like you
And so I just kind of brought all my favorite things together and I figured, you know, those things that you would say
I was like, well, I don't say those things
And um, he even gave me his address
I was like live it but I was it wasn't let it know. He's like, could you send me um some stuff an autograph thing?
I don't want for for building this up for you. So yeah, give me an address
He gave it to me
You know, I had another guy the funniest dude was the twitter guy who was smoked the herb dean. Have you ever told you about this guy?
No, I smoke the herb dean. Okay. This dude he went by smoke the herb dean and this dude was so funny and when I first
Found out about people were saying are you saying this stuff on twitter?
And I'm like, no and this dude portrayed me as if I was always high and ethnocentric, right?
So everybody was some sort of nigga or something like that and that's I was like like my comments on uh
On the kimbo slice versus big country. Do you remember that fight? Yeah
We're big country later on kimbo. It was like, okay
Here's here was the kind of nothing I heard worse than watching them bad ass cracker lay up on a swollen ass brother and get rewarded for it
That was the comment I was like and people were thinking it was me
And he would say stuff like that all the time and like when I first saw it was so mad, but then
All of a sudden I I just clicked and I just started laughing. I was rolling and my lawyer
He was calling go. I called okay. Wait before you send the letter
Let me like send it around to a few of my friends so we can laugh
So like me and savant, you know who worked at the jail. We were yeah me and savant
We just rolled for about a week just saying other stuff and like just crazy stuff
This dude was saying and then they shut him down, but I kind of miss him. I wish that
I smoked the herb I wish that he was back you smoke the herb dean if you're listening, you know reach out to me
You know I'm saying uh because you were funny
Oh my god, how somebody could take somebody's identity
And just say shit is fucking hilarious. I made a bill cosby joke
This is bill cosby dude on fucking facebook
That was saying some stuff to me that was hilarious like he knew me, but
I love all that shit that that's
You know kids are doing crazy stuff, but that's tremendous where they
Smoked he smoked the herb dean. No, he was he was funny, you know, I'm not trying to give anybody ideas or whatever
But down. Yeah, it was funny
Oh my god, I would love to do that to somebody
Just fucking
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I don't know. Who do I hate Lee? What do you think?
Who would I take over like who? I don't know. Give me an idea. What the fuck Lee you might be a nature valley
Nature valley who the ranch company?
Oh, like to make the uh, I hate ranch fucking dressing just talking about it every day
Just talking about like it's smelling the fucking air right that would be really funny if you were to be nature valley
Really? Yeah, I guess think of all kinds of stuff you could say is nature valley suck my dick
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Oh, you're always welcome
What days you teach up there herb
I'm there. I train on mondays and wednesdays. Take me up there. We need to do something
Teach them how to throw a flying psychic without the ropes, please
Tomorrow though, I'm gonna go see eddie bravo. I've been taking them down there with you tomorrow
Take the train. Don't you take a train downtown to eat french fry?
I'm gonna eat french fries with cheese on french fries. Yeah, the potatoes. Oh, yeah
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Herb dean, what are your new year's resolutions this year? What do you want to do?
Ah, well, you know, I don't have any yet. Now. It's a good idea to start thinking of something. I usually don't make resolutions
You know, I try to always go for this non shit and they crack by the 14th
You know what my um as far as for the fitness one, that's the big one, right?
That's a bit. You know what god was really was really interesting
I've I've noticed I've been through this cycle the last few years
November hits with November hits everything changes. I started eating better. I started working out better
And I realized what it is. It's the light when the light changes. I don't feel like sitting in the backyard
Drinking beer barbie killing and all that. I'm like on it. I just want to eat a salad go to the gym
You're healthy dude. You look good out there though. No, well, thank you man. I try to be happy, you know
You can't be a fat fuck
Referring it just doesn't look right. I couldn't be out there refereeing no matter how even for a while big day
Big god john was big. You wanted a big time died years ago when he worked a lot more
It's tough being a fat dude. Just for personal purposes, you know, I'm a comics at this point
It helps me out. It fucks me up sometimes from time to time
I think about it a lot. You know, I think about what I'm eating. I think about what I should need, you know
I'm gonna work on a movie next week. Those are the fucking kisses of death
A movie is a kiss of death with 24 hours. They got raisinettes
You know, I told them today no raisinettes on this movie last time they had raisinettes everywhere
Those raisinettes fucking put 10 pounds on me. I love raisinettes. They drive me fucking crazy
When you sign the fucking sponsor sheet, we want raisinettes
Because I could sell raisinettes. You understand raisin. That's a good breakfast. I'll email her get it together
You're slipping right this shit down her dean. I will see you
Friday night at the south point. Hopefully you come over. I wish I was no, it's too late for you
Well, no, no, I wouldn't normally be there. I would normally do it
But the thing is I think I'm going to be referring to fight friday
Here and I won't be able to get up there to the morning or come up
Saturday morning or drive up friday night when I'll get there to be like maybe the show might be over
But any other time I haven't seen for a while. I'm about doing man. You don't come out that much. I'm about do dog
It's tough
To go on the road every week raise a family
Be a husband workout
You know, you have me that's but you know the thing about is I actually I chill out on because I used to see you guys a lot
More often and then like I'm like, man, you know, I want to let my boys get some material
You know, I don't want to be seeing them every like to see the next week afterwards. You know what I mean?
I like when people I get embarrassed when my friends come
I get embarrassed how they feel about my material and shit. Sometimes I go off sometimes, you know
Whatever just be good singing. I'll see you Saturday night the whole town. Maybe I'll see you walking around after the fights
I'm excited. I haven't been to a fight in a while. So I'm very excited about going this week. This is going to be good
I want I'm a big fan of uh Gilbert's I like Gilbert as a human being, you know, I like
I don't know Robbie law or Fidel personally. I don't know to give them a walking
You know, I don't really know a lot of people but
I'm excited Lee's gonna come
Yeah, Lee hooked up. He's gonna drive out on Friday night like a soldier
You know, what are you gonna do here? Lee nothing
No, I'm excited
Maybe we'll do a little edible run out there through Friday and Saturday in Vegas
So up to the south point that that's nothing more for december because I do want to come see you
So because you have me rolling man. I mean the one is one used to do about the cat
No, no, no, I'm around a new year's eve. I'm doing at the ice house right in your neighborhood eight o'clock
Okay, new year's eve eight o'clock. You gotta everybody done. Boom. You're on your way home
Fucking jumping up and down. You can practice refereeing in your living room. Right, right?
You know, fuck it. Yeah, I'm running out of the ice house
New year's eve. Lee's gonna be there with a tuxedo. I'm gonna get him a nice tux
Yeah, you know, greg and lynn send you a robe. I gotta go pick it up the long
Oh, that's nice. Thank you send your robe. Finally. I want to take pictures of you with the fucking robe on with gel in your hair
You're gonna be smoking. I love you cocksuckers. Thank you very much for listening. Don't forget uh, december 17th
We're at the lab factory the live podcast and new year's eve at the motherfucking ice house
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You know, I love you motherfuckers. Thank you very much. Thank you for being for making the trip down
You know, I love you. Don't my I've been trying to get you on for a while and I'm ready for your podcast or your show
So whenever get me on I want to do some interviewing with you. Okay. Thank you for having me. Oh, please. You're fucking family
And I want to get you in studio so we could talk shit. Thank you very much
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Take a long holiday
Let your children play
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