Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #248 - Barry Katz, Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt
Episode Date: January 15, 2015Barry Katz, Comedy manager, joins in to Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt. This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout. Nature Box. Visit Naturebox.com and us...e promo code Joey for a free trial box Meundies.com Go to meundies.com/joey for 20% off. Iron Dragon TV. A New Roku channel with all the best martial arts films. Use Code word joey for two free rentals. Wed. January 7th at 2pm. Visit NanoTech's booth at CES to meet UFC Star Tim Kennedy. Their booth number is 15423 Recorded live on 01/14/2015.Music:For The Love Of Money - O'JaysEarly In The Morning - The Gap Band
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I fucking slept shitty last night.
Really?
Oh fuck.
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Oh shit.
Taking it back.
When black people are black people.
They fuck around with fake dreads in their heads.
Smellin' like dust.
What?
Fuck at the church on a Wednesday night.
Barry Katz in the house.
Lisa Yat in the house.
Oh shit.
They got a tight crisp brown up, set them down and give them back hands to this song.
Damn bitch.
What?
Wednesday night.
Fuck dancing with the stars.
Fuck the Emmys. Let's do this.
What's going on Lisa? What the hell you been all day?
I've been here.
Eight hours to eat breakfast.
I talked to you at nine.
Breakfast I'm going to go to the gym.
I'm just making lunch.
I went to the gym at 12.30 today.
What the fuck do you do for those eight hours?
I'm cleaning.
Only I clean the day.
You got these veterans coming to your house.
What the fuck is that?
Every day I get in the car with you.
And there's always a new adventure.
I call you the other day.
I'm cleaning because Paula's coming over.
That's nine in the morning.
At one I call you.
You're still cleaning because Paula's coming over.
I'm going to pick her up for lunch.
And then I get in the car with you the other day.
You're talking about some fucking dude who went through Afghanistan.
He lost his wrist.
He comes to your house and he cleans once a month.
These guys are casing your fucking house.
What the fuck guys coming over to your house?
I don't care if she's an ugly woman.
I want a woman over the house.
A four foot two apocalypse doll
with no neck thing in my toilet.
I don't want to see no fucking guy.
It makes me nervous.
Let the guy's case in the fucking joint.
What is wrong with you?
So when does the guy come over and clean?
Once a month. Last Thursday very month.
And you have these people on the payroll?
I guess it costs like 20 bucks an hour.
Yeah.
Look at you. You're like fucking...
I would never do it.
When they clean the fucking toilet and they get a flashback
and they start beating you with a bow and arrow.
I don't stand right next to them.
You said you had to deal with Barry Katz in studio.
The main man in this fucking town
making it happen and shit.
What's the name of the podcast?
Making the industry shaking their boots.
Industry stand.
That's right. Industry stand.
My main man Mr. Barry Katz in the house.
Thank you for having me back.
I can't believe I made the cut to come back.
I've always loved you. I've always been a fan.
I've always fucking cracked me up when I see what's happening.
Right back at you brother.
This is incredible.
He tells me that time I'm cleaning.
And then in the car last week he's talking about this Vietnam vet
that comes over and sweeps the house.
And he's in extra movies.
He is.
What the fuck kind of people do you meet online?
I came into this podcast
and really a respectable Jewish man.
And now I am a self-hating Jew right now
as I watch you.
Why? Because I have a cleaner come once a month?
No, because you have a yarmulke with a Boston Red Sox.
That's how someone sent me this.
It's so cool.
Who doesn't want a Red Sox yarmulke?
You don't have to wear that the whole day.
It's 16 days to patch it, bitches and catches.
I know.
Something crazy. Like 33 days.
Somebody just told me the other day.
Is it like early February? Like we're around Super Bowl?
Something just munching it to me the other day.
Like hey man, can you imagine? 36 days to
bitches and catches and I'm like Jesus Christ.
Yeah, like from Century City to here they might make it in time.
Yeah, oh my God.
What the fuck, me cats?
Tell me something about what's going on.
It's so good to see you. What movies are you doing?
What the fuck would you install last week?
I just, I couldn't believe our pot.
I got so much great feedback
from our podcast.
I know the church of what's happening
because I thought it would be the temple of what's happening.
No, you dropped fucking serious knowledge
that people want to know about.
These people at home think that
what we do out here is glamorous.
They see the final product.
Well, they should come to this office and see you
when you're cohort here.
No, no, no, no, no. They should see, you know,
what goes on in a set and when they hear these
stories they go into fucking shock.
You know, the person in Iowa
really thinks that, you know,
when George Clooney and Brad Pitt
are hugging and giggling at the golfing globes
they really like each other.
These fucking people hang out and have cocktails.
They don't let these guys on each other as agents
finding out where they're going to eat
and who could show up first
and the creepiest fucking lifestyles.
I did an interview with this woman,
Sarah Siegel Magnus,
who's one of the producers of Precious.
And she was telling me that literally
like she was at the Golden Globes
in the Academy Awards
and at the table
they weren't even talking to each other,
the round table, they just literally
everyone hated each other.
Until the camera was on.
The great thing about podcasts
has been around for a while, I didn't even know about it.
But then the thing like five or six years ago
that really made podcasts take off was comedy.
So now a lot of people
out there and myself included
have learned a lot about
comedy, like the industry, but not really.
Like not the behind the scenes stuff.
Like they learn what comics go through.
And that's why, you know, one of the reasons
why I started industry
standard, it's, I never really
told you this, I don't think, but I,
every manager, every
agent, every lawyer I talked to said
don't do it.
Don't do it. No
managers doing it. There's a reason
why they're not doing it because
you're giving out information
that people don't like to have out there.
You're talking about things factually
that people don't want to have out there.
But this is what I felt. I felt
like if you're in a situation
where if I represented you
and let's say the De Niro
movie happened and I would be so excited
for you and I would hug you
to death and congratulate you
but then I would go home
and I would say, my god
Barry, you only
you only helped one person.
You only helped one person.
Is there something you can do where you can
you can help more people.
And I thought of all these meetings I've had
with network presidents
and studio executives and showrunners
and I'd get out of the meeting
and get in my car and I'd be like, god
I can't believe I was the only guy
in that room
to hear Doug Herzog talk to me for 90 minutes
or
Chris Albrecht or Steve McPherson
or Phil Rosenthal
and
what would it be like if
millions of people could hear what they have to say
and that's why I started
and most all of these people that I interviewed
have never done a podcast before.
Granted, I sometimes
do certain artists
who are executive producers
on their own shows
but for the most part I just deal
on the other side and it's really
apparently it's been pretty inspirational
I've been fortunate.
It's 2015
and I always say this
you're not a fan anymore
when I was growing up I was a fan of the Beatles
today I could have contacted
John Lennon on Twitter
and eventually he would have cracked and said
hey go fuck yourself
there was something
within our fans
and then you would have tracked him down and shot him
whatever
but now it's a different thing
for you to exist as an artist
maybe not, maybe I'm wrong
it would be nice to communicate with people
who buy your records
it would be nice to communicate with people
who come to your shows and pay
$62.18 ticket fee
to come see you at whatever
so I'm a fan of everything
when I did
I don't know
I was listening to James Coburn
talk about when he shot
The Magnificent Seven
how they didn't want your brother to steal the movie
because he was a foreigner
so they tore men to them every night
they would call him and hang up
and break into his room and put lizards in his room
he hated lizards or something
you know what that does to people
love hearing that shit
there used to be a TV channel
in the movies, AMC
AMC would play the movie twice
in a night but they would play it
in the beginning with fun facts
that you didn't know about during this scene
Steven Seagal broke his ankle
and they had a postpone shooting for six weeks
and that's what you're doing
with the entertainment business
I would listen, if I was a civilian
if I lived in Iowa
and I watched television
and I was a fan of Breaking Bad
and Sons of Anarchy and Community
I would listen to your podcast
because I want to know what they're fucking saying
it's, it's
I, I almost
feel embarrassed about it because it's like
you know there's 350,000
podcasts out there
and
technically no one knows who I am
no one knows who these people are
but they come and
as you know I wouldn't be here right now
unless the podcast we're doing
well because that's the way
the business works and that's probably
what we'll probably talk about
today is the fact that
you have to get people's attention
you have to create a problem
you have to do something
that gets people to notice and that's
why you call me, you call me because you love me
I know you love me but I wouldn't
be here unless that podcast
wasn't doing what it was doing
and I just wouldn't be here
because if it was, it was number
347,000 as opposed to
number 100 or number 150
or 500 out of
350,000 that's why
you're in places that's why you do things
that's why the church of what's happening
so many people want to be on this
because it's doing so well
if your thing wasn't doing well
you wouldn't be able to get anybody
on here but your friends and I would
be here to do it for you
and Joey and I talk a lot about
either people
or organizations
in an industry that are
like in the industry working in it
and not understanding
part of it so as a comedian Joey
wouldn't you be more
excited to work with a manager who had a
podcast and would understand when you call him
and be like I want to get sponsors for the podcast
or I want to get different guests he
wouldn't understand it. He's here
Barry is sitting there
because I have the utmost respect
of him just doing one thing
you know and that's
a fucking having knowledge
what the fuck a podcast is
what conversation do you and I have on the phone
every three days
about how the fuck am I doing business with them
they don't know what a podcast is
right now in the entertainment business
it's changed in 15 years
it's a different realm. 20 years ago
a movie came up
I would call Barry and say Barry
I want to go on for this movie Barry would call the casting director
and he'd know somebody in the producing
office and go hey my client
they'd be perfect for this call casting
get them in there blah blah blah
today if you call casting they go
can you please submit him
electronically
or the business has changed
yeah there used to be just so your audience knows
this is fascinating in the casting
world if you were a casting
director and you were somebody who
walked into an audition
for anything let's just say
10 years ago you'd walk in
you'd walk into the casting office
and it would be like an A-bomb
victim's office from Nagasaki
I mean there would be like
piles
thousands of headshots
and resumes
boxes everywhere envelopes
and the whole thing was
you'd have the red envelopes from CAA
you'd have the blue ones
from William Morris and they'd open
certain ones first in the trajectory
of the biggest agency
to like Ed's agency
and now the thing is about
anybody out there and I really
truly believe this
I say this on my podcast
everyone opens
a FedEx
everyone so if you're an actor
out there and you want to be
noticed get some FedEx
envelopes in LA
submit yourself
if you want to do a picture
and whatever note you want to do
and bring it like your FedEx person
person's office and they will open it
have a link in there
or if you email a casting director
with a nice funny note or whatever
they're always going to open it
do you know anybody
in the history of the world
who does not open an email
there isn't anybody
everyone does but it is hard now
because a lot of jobs are applying online
and when I was applying for jobs
I felt like
if I didn't apply when it was first posted
then I wasn't going to get seen
especially if it's just submitting a form
if it's by email
I would never do it too late in the week
at night and I would do it
right after lunch
or right early in the morning
because if you're getting 200 emails
for a job and someone sends it to you
at 10.30
it's going to get hidden
unless there's something right up front
that grabs their attention
now excuse me
I had a big earlier that shocked me
you said off air
you said
I applied to these jobs
why don't you tell the audience where you
the three places you applied to jobs
no just tell them the three places
Domino's
Pizza Hut and Best Buy
ok stop right there
now I don't mean to go toe to toe
with you or anything like this
but if your audience is out there
and you're applying for a job
you would never apply to a job like that
I had a full time job
working in television
and I had a college degree
and I needed
before Joey and I met and I needed money
so what you're saying is
those are your three top choices
to make money
not top choices but
I worked 77
I asked you the three places you applied
and that's what you said
so my thought process was
trying to be an editor
so maybe I'll try to do porn
but I can't put that on my resume
so why even do it
so I worked 7-7
10-7 every day
so I wouldn't get home to 8-8-30
so I can't have another regular job
I was thinking of late night
stuff I could do
this is the thing
I hope you don't mind me saying this
this is a story that I
I learned a lot
from what happened to me in New York
at this one time
this one week I realized
something
so I used to go to this place
called the Cosmic Diner
I think it was at 53rd and 8th now
it used to be at 57th or 58th
and Broadway
one of those diners where you go
and the servers are just so nice
and so wonderful
and beautiful and sweet
and you can order all this stuff
$10 or $15.20
or whatever it was
and if you had a little extra money on you at the time
and even if you were broke
it was $10
you might give the girl $5
thank you
wonderful
and I remember I did this deal for Dave Chappelle
and I had a big deal
and I said you know
I'm gonna treat myself
and I went to the 4 seasons to have lunch
and the bill came to $50
and my server
was also this wonderful woman
was so incredible and nice
so great
and I felt like generous a little bit
I'm not too much probably because I am Jewish
but I gave her like $15 tip
not a lot
but a little extra something
and then as I was walking back to my office
I realized something
two wonderful
wonderful charismatic
people who did a great job
one chose
to apply to a job
at the Cosmic Diner
the lowest
of the low kind of
New York City Diner
lovable to go in these places
late at night don't get me wrong I love going in these places
but the lowest budgeted place
the basically the motel
five
of restaurants
and another person
who does the same exact thing
same exact skill says
you know what I'm going to apply
to the top
the like peninsula
of restaurants
and I'm gonna work there
and at the end of the week one person makes
three times more money
than the other one
and what you did is you made the choice
to work at the motel
five of jobs
because of your qualification
at night knowing that there were other jobs
that could pay you more money you had the skill
said but other people went
and got those jobs and applied to those
and you didn't because maybe you didn't think
you were worthy of those jobs
maybe but I'm glad I didn't because I would never
have been working with him if I had two jobs
I wouldn't have had time to work with him
sometimes fate
like I've had times when I've done
something like you come out here
you expect things to happen
also one day you know things aren't happening
quick enough you go to the stupid audition
that your manager sends you on
for this show on NBC
you're going there with a bad attitude
but something you do a good
read but in your mind you don't think it's a good
read you go home and you go you know what
fuck this I'm gonna apply for this job
you walk down and you get humiliated
you apply for the job
on the way home your phone rings
and you book the row
it was you had to take
a fate
society something wanted to see you
eat shit for 10 minutes
before it rewarded you
if you wouldn't have gone down there
do you know what I'm saying
that's true look what's great about you
Joe is that I believe
this to be true
when you do an audition
you
are always ready
and always prepared
but you know you have
the illusion you know you have this
like laissez faire illusion
like hey if I can I'm just gonna go
in there I'm gonna look at this for about a half
hour walk in and see what happened
but you are not you're the exact
opposite of that guy
and and and the work
ethic that it take like I was
like my kids are
started getting into magic they're
nine and ten
and this morning I
wake up at like seven o'clock
which is late for me and normally wake up at like
five thirty six but I was up late
and I wake up to this
I get out of bed
I'm wife in my eyes I look down over
to the living room my son is there
he's half naked and he's playing
with the cards and doing them a certain
way and I'm like
hey buddy what are you doing
I'm so frustrated I've been working
on this trick for an hour and a half
I said well that's
that's fantastic
no daddy it's not
fantastic I just
I've been you know I get it
and then I get it again and then three more
times I don't get it and I said
but that's how you get better
you have to keep working on it over
and over and over again
to be the best you can be
and the fact that you realize that and you've
been here for ninety minutes from
five thirty in the morning till seven
working on this trick
and that's the way you have to be with an audition
and I want to share one thing with you because
it reminds me of you and
you can discount it on and for everybody
out there in your audience
one of my first lessons when it came time
to figuring out how to
be the kind of person that you need
to be to get somewhere in this business
I think you'll like this
I was in
I was a teenager in Long Meadow, Massachusetts
and I'm listening on the radio
and it says Elvis Presley
is going to come to the Springfield
Civic Center
and
tomorrow morning at eight o'clock
tickets go on sale
and back then
as Joey and you know
there's no internet, there's no
ticketron, there's no
you have to go to the box office
there was a ticketmaster
you have to go to the box office wherever
you want to get it
so I get excited
I look at the bus schedule, I plan it out
I get
prepared to take like a four or four
thirty bus down to the Springfield Civic Center
so I get there around
a little before five
not to myself
I am going to get these tickets
I get there
at like quarter of five in the morning
and guess what I find
there's a line
a mile long
around the Springfield Civic Center
so I think I'm
the king because I'm getting up
early and I'm three hours early
and I'm outsmarting
everybody to get these tickets
but I didn't outsmart anybody
and I just, I waited in line
for eighteen hours
to get one ticket
because
I thought to myself three hours
early that's enough time
to be the best I can be
and get the advantage here
but the fact is, is that just like acting
if you work
on your scene for three hours
there's somebody working
four hours
there's another guy working five hours
there's another guy working 24 hours
on the scene
and there's always going to be somebody
working harder than you are
and you have to work as smart
and hard as you can
now luckily I got my ticket to Elvis Presley
but that's because there were about ten thousand seats
but when you're an actor
and if your audience is listening
to your job or whatever it is
there's only one job
there's only one part
the only time that you have a shot
of getting something and being like
third best or seventh best
or eighth best is when they're doing
a new cast of a sketch show
that way you know when they're clearing out
SNL and they're hiring eight new people
you could be the eighth best
person auditioning and get it
but for the most part on every role you go up for
it's either you're getting it
or you're not
and that's why you have to be as prepared
as possible and what's fascinating
about podcasts is
you know you work hard at them
you're going you know Monday and Wednesday
and however you do them you put a lot of time
in you really work hard at it
and that's why it's doing so well
if you just did it
inconsistently
how many people do you know they start a podcast
and they're going forward every week
and then all of a sudden it just disappears
and you're like what happened to this guy
who's number one for a week
it drives me crazy
it eats at my crop because
that's
60% of the people in Los Angeles that you don't know about
that'll call you and say
I'm writing a screenplay
I spoke to CAA and ABC
we're ready to go and after three weeks
they disappear
off the face of the earth
then you bump into them at the farmers market
a year later and they're selling fucking
real estate and in the ride home
you're sitting there going a year ago
this guy was going to write
the next break in bed
and now he's selling fucking real estate
what a...
the funny thing is you'll point it out to me now
you'll be like I met this guy but I think he's going to disappear in like two weeks
and they disappear
and you know when they're going to be around
you just know
hard work discourages so many people
that come to this town
so many people come to this town
the standard and have a drink
all their problems are going to be solved
six weeks of acting classes
the standard a few drinks
they have a word for it I networked
it's true
I'm going to share something with you and you
and the Jewish star
this is something that I
it just came upon me
about a month or so ago
I want you to think about this with your audience
this is crazy
I'm going to
I'm going to actually do it with you
okay
do what you want though
now you got to be honest with me
tell me
how many hours a week
you fuck off
in other words
you just don't like
in other words you're doing things that are just
they're not for your family
they're not for your daughter
they're not for your
they're not for your career
they're not for your career
it's just things that you just fuck around
an hour and a half a day
an hour and a half a day
time seven days
is how many hours
let's just round it off to ten
you got your calculator
on your phone
get ready
so you got 520 hours
of fucking off
now divide that
by a 40 hour work week
so you got
so what was the number again
520 divided by 40
520
divided by 40
13
13 weeks
of fucking off a year
now imagine what you could be doing
as an artist or
accomplishing as anything
in this business or any business
if you dedicated
that extra time
for your career
what would happen
you'd be like much more productive
you'd make much more money
and you'd get where you want to go faster
but that hour and a half
is also of entertainment
for me to refuel
to be able to entertain
I can't sit there for six hours
and write straight nobody can't
either fucking what's his name
when I'm blowing all that stuff
but I mean I can't sit there
do something for half an hour
make a few calls to yourself
but I think a lot of people have more than an hour and a half a day
oh no and I understand
a lot of people like today somebody said to me
hey did you see the call on the Dallas game
I can't help you
20 years ago I gave up football
on the Sunday I'm a comic
I've already sacrificed
I cut as much fat as I can
I know when I tell you an hour and a half
it's
the first 20 minutes in the morning you read the news
how much does the news
change your fucking life
it doesn't
does it matter if the stock market crashed
or what the fuck
some guy accused the house senator
that he's going to kill him
some bartender
how does that change your bill at rouse
how does that change your mortgage
it doesn't
who gives a fuck today you said something to me
we can't do the podcast because the AFC championship game
how does that really affect your life
how does at the end of the week
it's entertainment for you
because you work a 40 hour week
it's stressful but how fucking stressful
really is that you need football
go to Cuba see if they watch football on Saturdays
and Sundays and they live their fucking life
so there's a ton of shit
we could cut out of our lives
tons and so many aspects
movies, TVs
whatever I don't watch
I don't know what the fuck aftershows are
when I first became a comic
I don't know what television was
when I first met Joe Rogan
and they kept telling me he was on news radio
I thought he was on like CNN
I didn't know what news radio was
I had no fucking idea
does your audience know that story about Joe Rogan
yeah people know now
I didn't know what news radio was
no do you know the story of how he got
does your audience know the story of how he got news radio
this is an amazing story
so
there's a comic
respected and done HBO specials
who
auditioned
and got his first
television role ever
in the history of his career
for news radio
and he booked the job
very exciting
he goes to the table reading
for those of you don't know in your audience
the table read is where you go that first time
where you're sitting around the table
with your script
there's bags for you and all the cast members
and the director and there's studio executives
and television executives
and writers all sitting there
waiting to laugh as you
read it from your script
and you finish the sitcom script
and at the end people applaud
and then
you find out what you're doing for the rest of the week
that you're rehearsing and you're taping
this particular person
was at the table read
first job they ever booked very excited
and then after it was all over again
there he as manager
got the call
we're gonna replace him
he's not right
we're gonna make a change
and
they auditioned some more people
and Joe Rogan tested
and booked the role and was on the show for five years
and you talk about fate
do you know who that person was
Ray Romano
that is correct Ray Romano
should send news radio Fruit Basket
because Ray Romano
was the highest paid television
sitcom star in one year
of anybody in history
so think about it
he felt shitty forgetting
fired
you never fucking know
I did a movie with a guy
I've heard stories about him
and I forget what his name was
he was the original Crockett
they gave him money
and he signed them up
he was the original
the guy that was gonna play
Crockett on Miami Vice
and somewhere along the line
they saw Don Johnson and that was it
and that guy still in town
still doing movies and
there's a couple of movies
King of Queens
the original father in King of Queens
a historically phenomenal
actor, comedian Jack Carter
did the pilot
Jerry Stiller
the rest is history
it's very very common
when you go onto these sitcoms
that you can be replaced if you're not ready
and you know
it's one thing as an actor
this is what's amazing about
also our field and Joey knows this as well
this is what's crazy
about the acting profession
and we're coming into pilot season now
if you're an actor or an actress
you only have to
fool them four times
for five minutes
and you could be on television
for seven years
and I'll tell you how this is possible
you go in you do your first audition
for the casting director only
she or he reads the paper
like they're functionally special needs
I mean they can't
if you ever go into audition if you can find
the casting director that reads like an actor
God bless you
tell me who they are
it's very rare they try really hard
they work really hard but they're just going through so many things
they're just reading it
but you do it you do your five minutes
they put you on tape
and then the producers look at it and they say
hmm let's bring that person
back to the producer session
they come back
with the executive producers in the room
for their second five minutes
they do their second five minutes
and after that's over that's on tape
and they huddle and they say
you know what
that was really good let's test that person
so then they send them a contract
that they negotiate for seven years
because you never want to get an actor
to go in
and test who doesn't have a deal
because if they get it they could just say
we want more money we want this
so you do the test deal
you go and your first test is with the studio
like the financier
or a 20th century fox
or something like that
you go to the test at the studio
you do your five minutes
you leave
and you find out if you're moving to the test
of the network that's your third five minutes
you get it
you go to the test for the network
the network president is there
the network executives the studio is there
the executive producers
you test for five minutes
you go out you go home
I got the job
I am the blonde girl on two broke girls
and
you are on television if you're Beth Baer
for seven years
and probably 150 episodes
when you haven't booked the job
maybe booked two jobs
in 95 or 100 auditions
and that's the way it works
and there's no other profession that works
that way and we should be very grateful
because
as actors think about this
if you're a brain surgeon
okay you can't fuck up one time
if you fuck up one time
you're done
it's over
your career is over you can't work in this country
one time in your career
if you're an actor
you can fuck up
99 out of 100 times
nobody gives a shit
if you do well that one time
let's take Joe Rogan
you're on television
for six years and you have a
monstrous career because you get on
you prove yourself
Aziz Ansari
just look at all the names that have gotten their shot
that have booked something
it's amazing what can happen
and that's what's great about our profession
yes the odds are
1 in 200
1 in 300
1 in 100
but who cares
if I had a chance to play the lottery
if I had a 1 in 500
shot of winning
I'd play every fucking day
so if you're an actor or an actress out there
or anybody in that profession
you're in a great spot
as long as you can go in
and do extraordinary work
because if you keep preparing harder than everybody else
and you keep studying harder than everybody else
eventually
you're going to get your shot
and you're going to have a career
and you're going to get on television
you know you continually grow
I mean they sell a lot of bullshit
in this town there's a lot of people making a lot of money
in this town selling bullshit talent
acting classes
remedies
the whole thing but if you continue to grow
you know
that you could be here for a lifetime nothing
happens and all of a sudden you're working
at 50 fucking eight junior soprano
you know and all of a sudden you're
it's endless
but you got to be here how many people
that I'm here with that went to Montreal
that got huge deals
and I don't know where the fuck they are
I haven't seen them in years
you'd have to
if you're in
I don't know how many people listen to this
who are in this business
but it applies to every business honestly
but let's just focus on the agony
you would have to
work non-stop
to fuck up
as an actor or an actress
if you dedicate the time
and you work hard
to be the best representation
of yourself
and you work harder and smarter
than everybody else
it's impossible
for you not to get a gig
it just can't
I tell people
there's certain actresses you meet
along the way
and they walk in your office
and they're just incredible
they have poise, they walk in
they're worldly, they're smart
and they can go into any room
and get anything they want
but in the acting profession
you can't do that
you have to do the work
and that's the problem with a lot of
if I may be so bold here
and I'm generalizing
a lot of very good looking actors
and actresses, there's a sense of entitlement
because in their personal lives
they can get anything they want
a beautiful woman
can walk into a bar
and she'll never pay for a drink
she can walk up to any guy
and say let's go
she can get anybody to do anything
for her
and so when it comes to the acting profession
it's easy to think hey if I study for an hour
or two here I can just walk in
and I'm gonna be like I am
in my personal life
but it doesn't happen that way
because they don't care about that
a lot of people think okay
what am I gonna say when I walk in the room
do I say hi, how you doing
do I make a little joke here, do I do whatever
in the end
nobody gives a fuck about anything
but when you start reading the words
to when you finish reading the words
because even if you make the greatest
joke in the world up front
or you don't say anything
in the end what they're looking at
is how you read the content
that you're reading
and how you performed it and what you added
to it that nobody else added
and that's why you book the roles
you book because it's not
because
your average
it's not because you're doing whatever
anybody else is doing it's not because
it's because you clearly were the top choice
and nobody else could
knock you off the mountain
and that's what everybody needs to realize
in anything they do it's like
you know if you're a person
who's fairly good looking or has charisma
and you're applying to regular jobs
of course
if I send an actress
who's really wonderful
and beautiful and sexy
and smart on 10
interviews
with regular jobs
what do you think she's gonna go 0 for 10
it'll never happen
she'll probably get offered 9 out of 10 jobs
because those jobs
just require somebody who can walk
in a room
and give people the confidence and safety
that hey I want to be associated
with this person
but in our town
when it comes to the entertainment business
you can't just be that
you have to deliver the content
you have to deliver the lines
that are written for you
there's a lot of good looking people in this fucking town
there's a lot of looking
no there's a lot of great people in this fucking town
and the people that you see
when I watch some of the Leonardo DiCaprio
he's fucking good at what he does
he's not just a pretty face
he's really really good at what he does
or at least what I perceive
look at Gilbert Grape one of his first movies ever
Edward Norton
Primal Fear
look at these people's performances
Richard Gere did not want Edward Norton
he didn't want Edward Norton
because Edward Norton was just a Yale graduate
had his resume
was empty
but he came in and his performance
in the auditions
were so extraordinary
he had nothing to lose
so extraordinary that the producers
were fighting with Richard Gere
we have to have this guy
Richard Gere just wanted somebody
that he felt safe with that he knew
had booked a lot of jobs
and had done a lot of acting
but Edward Norton was so far
imagine how great you have to be
to knock off
100 actors who've done like 10 movies
it's you know
that's what you have to look at when you look at that
anytime you see
somebody new in a movie you have to say to yourself
how did this person get the gig
well they got the gig
because they were 10 times better than everybody else
in the auditions and that's how they got it
I know sometimes you go to
see a television show or a film
and you look at an actor and you say
god that person doesn't seem like
they're that great in this
how did they get it
well they got it because
some people are great at certain things
but not a lot of others
some people are great at getting the gig
just like in a job like a domino
is you're great at interviewing
you get the gig and then you crash the car seven times
you know people are good at different things
I love booking the gig I hate doing it
just to prove to myself
I love lighting the gig
you said something very interesting
when I first got here
so I had this guy that
I would go to his office
and I would see him fight on the phone
for me so I knew
if he got me in there I had to go in there
and fuck them up so at night
I would cancel comedy gigs
and stay in I would lose 75
that I needed to get this role
so when I would go into
a room it's so funny I would walk into
an audition sign my name
I'd look around the room I'd see all these
actors I had seen in movies
and I'd sit in for about two minutes
Barry Katz I'd be in the toilet
I said I might as well get in the car
I'm gonna lose this
and then I'd think about what I'd done
stand up like the places I had been
like I've been the buffalo
to that bowling alley
I've been Iowa to that fucking pool hall
these motherfuckers in the room
never did that I'm gonna go in
and get the role and that's what I would think
about the work I had done
I thought about those nights I stayed up
and rode a Greyhound bus
and that's what made me go in there and just go
fuck and ape shit
and I also listened to what they were doing
even if I'm the first one I'll sign
my name number five
and I'll listen to all five of those guys
go in there and do the same exact audition
for Bader and Biel the same
I'll take one thing
and turn it around and that one thing
will get me a callback
and by the time I go to the callback
that'll give me three or four days
oh new motherfucking jam to go in there
and freak them out again
plus I'll save a little bit
for the third callback
so they think I'm fucking Johnny
bananas but I'm really not I put it together
so I would look at an audition
straight and make notes
then I would smoke a joint and relax for an hour
and look at it again and put the coloring
into it and that's how
I would do it and then I'd look at it again
for the callback but it was always a process
for me and even though
I knew I didn't have a chance
in my mind
I just want them to put my head shut up
at the wall to maybe fuck
with the casting process for a few days
like if the guys
agent called back and said
we want them to have a double Y
then we'll go you know let's just go with Joey D
we're not going to have this problem
and I'm sure I got a lot of roles because of that
because I did so well
when I got smiley face what's the girl's name
Faris
she told me at the movie
at the table read
she goes I was in the read one time
you did so well I knew you weren't good for that
but I felt so bad you came down
I had to give you something
so she gave me two days of security
guard you know
that's what was always my intention
to not to book it
but to fuck up the auditioning process
in a way
and you just said something really interesting about that
you know she gave you the security guard thing
that's another thing when you're in this profession
if you do really well
but for some reason
you're just not the right type
or it's not going to happen that way
that's beyond your control
even if you're the greatest sometimes
they're just looking for something and they're just
set on it no matter what
but if you do really great work
they're going to call you and give you
that security guard role
they're going to call you and give you a guest star
because they know that you deserved it
and just fate would have it
that they just couldn't put it together there
and it's the same when you go in
the job for the
the accounting firm and you go in
you have a great interview but for some reason
they're looking for a guy who has
you know mortgage experience
and you don't have that
well you'll get the call for the next thing
they're doing because
they loved you and you were prepared
and you were
really working hard to make an impact on them
who cast
two broke girls, Julie?
Julie Ashton
Julie Ashton has given me more
jobs in this town than anybody
she did one of my first podcasts
and it's one of the most popular podcasts I have
she is the best about
I went in to see two years ago
I went in for two broke girls for a mobster or something
I just to set your audience up
Julie Ashton cast
Reno911, MadTV
the internship movie
two broke girls, she's done a ton of stuff
she started the Steven Spielberg company
and
her story is fascinating
in that she
you talk about taking jobs late at night
for certain situations
she took a job, she wanted to make as much
money as possible so she took a job
as a hostess
at what do you call the Chippendales
and so she would work
till four o'clock in the morning
get her tips, sleep for two hours
and get the Spielberg's office by
eight
and that was her lineage in her first
job in history
so talk about the two broke girls, I'm sorry
well a year and a half ago
I went in for two broke girls
I thought I killed in the audition
on the way home, showing off the phone rings
you booked it but they said I booked
something else and I drove home
and I go what the fuck are they talking about
I went in for two broke girls
I didn't book the show with John whatever
and showing up she goes
we'll save you for two broke girls
I got this opened up
she goes as you were walking out of casting
one of the producers was coming in
so she was casting two shows at once
but I've known Julie, Julie has put me
basically in
four pilots
to somebody
when you come into this town as a comedian
or an actor the book of pilot is huge
to get a call
to come in and shoot a pilot just like that
like twice she's like come on down
I need a cop I forgot to cast
what are you talking about
yeah come on down just come on down
go to the table read it's three days
this is what it pays a rehearsal
so it's rough now
what's happened lately is
when a lot of more of the movies are shooting here
people always call me
and offer me three days, two days
another movie in New Orleans
everything's local hire so we've lost that
a lot of people have lost that little
market that we had and I was one of those guys
I learned how to act
with those bullshit roles
I always encourage
actors that I work with
if there's a local hire just say
hey I don't care you're going down
to New Orleans you're paying for your own ticket
you're paying for your own hotel
and you're not making any money but you're going to be on screen
and I encourage
everybody to do that
it was a local hire
they gave me a hotel because I put a Houston address
and I thought it would be a great idea
and sometimes
I've always hustled
I've always believed in the hustle
and I get that from just growing up
in New York City
for the longest yard
they didn't want to see me they said they wanted to see celebrities only
I thought about who they were going to see
the choices they had
and I said they're really good celebrities
but they're not comics
Adam Sandler's about comedy he's not about celebrities
so I put an audition on tape
I bought a little football helmet
I bought a tight shirt and I sent it in
and here we fucking are
I still believe that
I've just gotten lazy
everything's more secured now
you just can't go on a lot and drop off a tape
blah blah blah
you have to learn that
and I think it applies to every business
because when I came out here
I had a job and it took me about 18 months
to get another job
I had like 10, 12, 13 interviews
and didn't get a second job
and like you adapt and you learn
you learn different ways to like interview
you look like a Chinese Jew tonight
that's how high you are
what do you expect?
delivering Chinese food
with a little ponytail coming out of your head
like Fumanchu
look at you look at Chinese Jew tonight
what is wrong with you what has gotten into you
you calling me telling me we're going to do 500mg
before 8am
hahahaha
think about that what you just said
you went on 13 interviews
and you went 0 for 13
when I first got out here yeah
do you know what it takes to go 0 for 13
I don't know if it was 13 but
you booked as many jobs as a dead guy
yeah
how is that possible
I had a job and uh
no no forget that job
how do you go 0 for 13
how is that possible
because in this town
there's so many
there's so many people you were talking about it earlier
how
there's only one job
they don't hire 10 assistant editors
they don't have a new class
so uh it's kind of like
auditioning and at the beginning
you're not as experienced
they can't just leave you
because it's going to be at night so they can't leave you alone
you need to know what you're doing
you can't get the job without experience
but you can't get experience without the job
so it was tough so I spent 18 months
building furniture
doing bullshit jobs as a PA
and I finally got a second job
are you really on some kind of medication
or anything
it's not
Nancy Grace doesn't think it's medication
what are you partaking in tonight
he gives me a lot of edibles
I gave him an edibles
because I just noticed something really odd
like it just kicked in
oh no it's been kicked in
when I walked up the stairs
you were perfectly normal
and now you're like a shell of yourself
oh my god I gave him the star of death
what did he give you
I gave him the star of David
direct from Israel
what is it
it's a gummy bear with THC in it
and how often do you take that
every time I say it
it's not my choice
it's not your choice
you call me
you called me four times today
dog by this time
in the second quarter
first week second quarter late March
you're gonna be doing 500 milligrams
before breakfast
does Joey take these gummy bears
Joey's taking them
I ate three of them
how come he's still the same guy
you're like an amoeba
because he's been doing it for 30 years
I was trying to build up his tolerance
Joey's complains and he goes home
he had that game one in the morning
six o'clock he was still sleeping
he was fast
I think I realized
why you went 0 for 13
but he didn't do that
I interviewed Byron Allen
he said
I said do you smoke
do you drink
do you take drugs
what did you do in your career
I said you're a comic
he said
I never wanted to
start something
that the majority of the people who already had
were trying to quit
not that many people want to quit weed though
look at me crackin funny
and when I'm looking towards you
all I can see is the Jewish star behind you
I love it
that's why I give them the Jewish stars of debt
they're called stars of anarchy
that's incredible
25mg plus
plus just in case
I know what you're saying
you're a fucking soldier
look at you
so Joey you're just immune to this stuff now
no he's not
are you immune to it
no I get fucked up
it hasn't creeped up on you
yeah I'm pretty fucked up
I think I'm over here giggling at the whole thing
0 for 13
I think that it's like anything else
I think that
whether you're looking for a job or not
if you're just walking into businesses and handing
a resume you're dying
in today's world
in today's world it wasn't like my mentality
that I would knock on your door
I just went into a place the other day
and there was a kid selling himself
he was telling the owner
wherever the fuck I was a dry cleaner
I think it was
he was saying wow but I come in for three days
can't do that no more it's all corporate shit
that's what we did when we were coming up
hey babby what's up I need help
listen you have to pay me for one week
let me go in there I'll be the best assistant you have
that's what people did
can't do that nothing it's corporate
I have every week
I have so many
interns trying to
just come in
and just dedicate hours and hours
of time to just being around
my office it's unbelievable
you know
the amounts that these kids
are willing to work
and fight to get in the business
and learn about the business it's absolutely incredible
that's how I got my first job
and then the
thing that got me that oh for 3rd to 0 for 12
I had
I had applied to a job
and I was gonna get it but then she gave it to like
her next choice
so we went to lunch
and she just gave my resume out
I got a call from Hell's Kitchen
I was making $800 a week
before taxes and the guy
called me as I was going into that awful job
and he said hey I can only
offer you $12.50 a week
is that gonna be okay and my head almost
exploded and I only got
I didn't apply to that job I would never apply to Hell's Kitchen
but just someone I met
handed my resume off so it actually
is better to walk in now than just doing online
online job searches
because that's people do apply to that many jobs
I can't imagine being
Barry Katz as a producer
and putting the breakdown out
in today's economy in Los Angeles
for a role for a guest star
and who you would get
I would be in shock
I would you'd get a thousand submissions
you do get a lot of
submissions for things and that's the way it is
but it's still and what happens is
people again
electronically submit now and a lot of people
submit auditions electronically
and you'd be surprised
like people like
I know this is gonna really blow you away
like Clint Eastwood for instance
Clint Eastwood
does not go into a room
and audition anybody
he feels like
it's unfair to the actor
he feels like they you know
why create stress and anxiety for an actor
let them put themselves on tape
100 times and take the best take
and send it to me
I'll look at them all
and I'll decide who I'm gonna book
and that's how he books people
so it's like
it happens a lot so now people are putting them
believe it or not
I don't know if your audience knows this or not
but something in the last few years
that's been happening is there's actually
tests
for network shows where they don't bring
the actors in to test
they just look at the tapes that they did
and you can actually get a role that way
that's why I encourage anybody in this profession
to get up early in the morning
and just start putting yourself on tape
for anything
it doesn't matter pretend there's a role
get at the sides
from some or the script from something
and just pretend you're auditioning for it
over and over and over again
and work on it and you'll get to the next level
we're just laughing because he was on a podcast
yesterday
and I know you do send in some tapes
but I don't know
when I first came to Los Angeles
for me
it meant the world
I was at the comedy store
I was at the improv, I was at the laugh factory
and there's this reverse thing
it's uh
I want you to
work for me but I also want you
to fucking jump through hoops
well wait a second
you contacted me what's the fucking big deal
one thing I always
hated Barry Katz was
Barry Katz's producer
would stand up and say he needs tape
fuck Barry Katz, he lives in Beverly Hills
come down to the store
smell me, feel the other comics
I didn't think for me
and I proved it
I didn't think for me that I would go
well with tapes
for me to send you a tape of my act
it just wouldn't go well
I knew if you shook my hand and we bullshitted
there you go fucking Joey's crazy
and I did that with you
I did that with me
and I had a thing with you one time
and if I'm remembering this correctly
I was doing a
a national ampoune series of DVDs
four of them I think
and one I was doing like a blue show
like a show with comics
were a little bit dirtier
and I remember
I believe calling you
and asking you for a videotape
and you essentially told me to go fuck myself
and come down and watch you
in my mind I probably
wanted to say fuck him
but
instinctually I just said
I gotta go see this guy
and I went to see you and
it was over
I always knew as a comic
I always knew Comedy Central went like me
but if I had a stand
how I have with this podcast
and I told you about my life
and the struggle and helping up
I knew you would like it's like when you watch 24-7
and you watch a boxer
and also you see him with his kids
and you see him swimming
on a ballet class and his daughters painting his nails
and you're like Jesus fucking Christ
I knew that if there was ever
an opportunity to look beyond the stand up
that I could
I would have a better chance with you
so people come up to me
and go hey man I was just in Dane
anybody would come up to me and go hey man
I was just in San Antonio
whatever
if you wanna mention your name
you want you to send him tape
well wait a second
if you mention my fucking name
why does he want tape
it's for a feature act it's not even a headline
just tell the guy I'll call him
and give me the fucking week of work
so I always felt
Barry it was always like a power move
like I always just felt it was just a stupid power move
I'm not asking you
for 45 minutes it's for 2,000 bucks
you're gonna give me 600 bucks
you barely wanna give me a whole town and feed me
what's the tape
just give me the fucking week Joey
I'm sorry
let me just share this with you
something you said earlier in this
hey Joey
did you see that catch of Des Bryant
what do you think of the call
I can't help you buddy
I can't help you I don't have time
to watch the fucking football game
I can't help you
maybe there's people out there
I don't have time to go down
and see comedians or take people's words
for it and they just want to just
go with
what they see in front of them
but there's more to this story
I refused to send the tape
the power of no
I said no I'm not sending the tape
and finally somebody called me
and said he really wants to hire you
but he's not gonna hire you without a tape
and I just had this instinct
from going to comedy club owners
seeing the tapes and seeing the stack of dust on them
and the envelopes unopened
like I'm gonna see something
I went and I bought a tape and I took it out of its wrap
when I put Joey Dears on it
I didn't even put my act on it
I sent it to him do you know what happened
he booked you
he booked me
and he told me that it was one of the best sets
he had ever seen
and I said do you see what
so right then I knew the whole tape shit
what a great story
fucking freak man
I used to watch tapes with the sound off
and that's how I would decide
if I wanted to work with somebody or not
why?
cause you can tell when somebody's got it
you can tell when somebody's a star with the sound off
okay
very interesting, Sealy you learn this shit
about six months ago
Lee Korn when he was on the call
he wanted to be an intern for it
well he keeps telling me I'm gonna be
a comedy manager someday
well you're not gonna be a comedy manager
can I just tell you something
honestly in my heart
you're not gonna be a comedy manager
getting fucking high every day
or every podcast
or whatever
let me just say something
cause if you
look, this is
you're gonna hate me for saying this but I don't care
you're different
because
I worked with Chappelle for eight years
the guy
woke up at the crack of two
smoked a bag of weed a day
and if you can find me
that many people who are
geniuses like him on half a hand
let me know
the red light went on magical
he would write material
based on, in my opinion
how the
drugs were affecting him
or how he just had this thing that works
sort of like how
he's obliging me like Snoop Dog
you know
some people
I think the drug really helps
their art form now after a while
I think it hurts them
and it takes its toll later on
if they can't
pardon the expression, weed themselves out of it
but
you know Chappelle, I felt
that the
lifestyle he had made him
even more of a genius
who
a guy went 0 for 13
applying the dominoes
or whatever the fuck it is
the fact is if you are going to be a great manager
this is a show
this is a professional show
this podcast is one of the top 50
podcasts in the world
in comedy, okay
and you are a representation
of the brand
if you take a drug
before you go on the air
then your representation
of the brand is the fact that
you are somebody
who is lost control of
I'm just saying
so if you're a manager
out there what's to stop
you when you're doing an important thing
with managing to take that drug
before you do an important deal
the issue is
I'm working with Joey Diaz
and the thing of his brand
and before big deals
we have a lot of documentary
we only have one day to shoot
first thing he gives me is banana bread
if I'm not high
people yell at me on twitter
so
once it becomes a comedy manager
it's completely different
the reason why I love you to death
are you trying to tell me
wait a second Joey
are you trying to tell me
that if you said to Joey look
I just have to tell you this
I am gonna go clean starting tomorrow
that Joey would fire you
he wouldn't fire me but he wouldn't
no would he fire you
he might
would he fire you yes or no
it's a possibility
hell no
but I poisoned him 3 days later anyway
he knows that
he'd give me a sandwich
but you don't need a sandwich
you don't need the water
you don't drink the water
I'd fucking watch
I'd melt it
and put it in his fingertips
I never did this before
the jobs I didn't get
the jobs I didn't get were tv files
if I didn't do this to him Barry Katz
he would go home
and watch comedy specials
listen to podcasts every day
and he wouldn't even go out and he'd be the palest you
you've ever seen
how much paler can this guy get
this guy makes Jen Gaffigan look like
I beat him to death
to leave the fucking house
what do you think I call him at 9 in the morning every day
and I clocked him to see what time
he leaves he tells me
he's making breakfast and he's headed to the gym
I go how the fuck do you eat
I don't understand
did you just say heading to the gym
he lost 80 pounds
80 pounds
I'm the treadmill he's a savage look at him
80 pounds
what if you amputate
some legs what happens
no I haven't worked out since June
so you're trying to tell me how much did you weigh
when you started
315 what made you decide
to go that day and make that
happen I was 315
no but you were 315 for a while
what made you decide to do it
I had lost a bunch of weight before
I did juicing for a month and I lost
pretty much the same amount of weight
but I put it all back on it still makes him laugh
cause it was terrible I didn't eat for a month
just make
and then I just
I put it back on
and he
he had been bugging me to work out
so I decided to work out
just to walk Barry
cause we do the podcast and he'll go home
and he's a smart fucking guy
this guy he comes up with good ideas
he knows the internet
I mean he's put this podcast on the map
but I don't want him to sit in that fucking house all day
so I torment him to leave the house
and go get some sun so finally got a girlfriend
and him and I go to the gym together
so you got a girlfriend there
he's a savage you're in a half yesterday
yesterday
now she met you when you were 315
no I was
oh he was 180 when he met you
the mother started feeding
went down the tubes
he met a Spanish girl it was all over
but the shot in Barrycats
why are you spitting I don't know anything
they fucking cook up
do you want to make you food
you should find a Mexican grandma
to make you tacos
it would change your life
she made you tamales
so that would mean that she's
like
if she fed you and you gain weight
then that means you both gain weight together
yeah we lost about 75 pounds
she's doing great too
they fell in love
it was love at first sight Barrycats
you know what it is
5 minutes of meeting a guy
if they're going to be with him
I knew in 5 minutes when I saw Lee
I wanted to be with him
I saw fireworks and shit
he's a fucking savage
but this is the fact
this is what really impresses me about you Barrycats
we go to comedy clubs
to do a live podcast
Barrycats
it's like
you go into another fucking country
the comedy club
the comedy club manager is looking
like what is it
a podcast
so how many guys are performing
it's a podcast
how much time are they doing
Lee and I look at each other and go
this isn't happening
and I hear stories on a daily
of people still going
2015
still going what's a podcast
okay for the normal Joe
who lives in Boston
who works outside
and whatever isn't computer savvy
I don't expect them to know
what a fucking podcast is
but for the manager of Three Arts
he better know what the fucking podcast is
an agent at CAA
a publicity fucking moron
at some company
they better know what a podcast is
because even if they don't listen to him
okay
it's in their realm
it's in their realm Barrycats
so just
just the thought
that okay
you took the realm but you went out there and did it
I respect that
because these morons are still living in 2010
still thinking that they're going to get a deal
Montreal and put your client on television
it's a different fucking climate out there
these podcast numbers
are what cable TVs are doing
cable TV shows are doing
it's fucking incredible
I don't know if you know this or not
how I sort of got into it
indirectly
was that you know Jay Moore wanted to do a
podcast and he finally
decided when he was going to launch
and when he was going to do it
and he called me like
the day before and said I want you to do
my first podcast
and I said Jay
I'm
I never done a podcast this is a celebrity
thing you're interviewing comics
and celebrities I'm not
following your first show
he's like Barry I want you to do it
I said Jay I'm not going to do it
it's not Barry
be in my house at seven o'clock
so I do his first podcast
and at the time
I don't even know how this happened
because Jay wasn't really great on
social media
he didn't have a radio show
but from what I understand
that first podcast
that first day at launch it was the number one
highest rated podcast
that day in comedy
might have been the world who the hell knows
and the producers told me
that it was listened to by
I think 450,000 people
and here I was
the recipient of being
in the podcast
where he was doing where there were 450,000
people
and so he calls me after that
he says I want you to do my third podcast
I said Jay you can't
repeat me right away
it's not the way you gotta have Barry
come down
I said Jay I just
get down here
I do the third one
390,000 people
listen to that one
I finish it
whatever I have good time
I never done it before he calls me again
I want you to do my tenth podcast
I'm like Jay
you can't do three of me
ten you're this isn't the way
Barry don't question
me or the way I want to do things
I know what I'm doing
people
are listening to these with you and I
and they're getting stuff about the industry
about what's happening and it's
they're liking it
so again like another 300,000
so by his tenth podcast
over a million people
had listened to podcasts that I was on
and then the wheels started turning
like maybe
there's something here that
where I can maybe help
some people share these
stories of these executives and these people
and their journeys from
humble beginnings to
how they got to where they're going
and what they do
Joey it's a
I just share with you
a few little snippets, Andrew Panay
the producer of wedding crashers
and earth to echo
this guy was an intern
went to intern a tapestry
films he told me he would
get there at like four
to six in the morning every day
and stay until everybody left
and he would come up with ideas
and pitched them ideas all the
time of movies to do he came up
with the idea for wedding crashers
and within five years
he was a partner at the company
okay
Byron Allen
unbelievable story the guy was
his mother had a job
at NBC
he didn't have any money at all so he used to
hang during the summers
and he would watch the tonight show
he would stay outside and watch Johnny
come up with his car
and nobody talked to Johnny
but he would wait from the walk by
and John would say how you doing kid
how you doing kid
after Johnny left he would go and
talk to the guys on the sound stage
and he would work and read his cue cards
and read the monologue
and he would stand there and practice Johnny's
monologue while they cleaned up
and wouldn't you know he was the youngest
person in history ever to do the
tonight show with Johnny Carson
and there's the story Carol Leifer
okay Carol Leifer
auditioned for the tonight show
twenty two times
you talk about oh for thirteen
twenty two times
they said no to her
and the time that she auditioned the twenty
third time where she thought
just like you did at that audition
well just do it again and whatever
and I don't think I did well
she got the call and she did
the tonight show
I mean there's all the doctor Phil
was homeless living in a car with his
alcoholic father
look at his trajectory
the guy did the Oprah show
for four years for
five hundred and thirty five dollars
ten cents every Tuesday
four years
and
now he's been the number one guy on daytime
television for twelve years
it's like everybody has a story
of where they got the
Mario Casara the guy
who produced Terminator and
Rambo and Rambo
because it's great story where he was like
he was his philosophy
was don't bargain with anybody
just
the deal even if you pay extra
the time you spend
going back and forth negotiating
it's just a waste of time
rather spend the extra money
so this one time he gets a call from Jeff
Berg who is the president of ICM at the time
he's about to get on a flight
he says listen um
how much time before your flight an hour and a half
I got the script if you want it
you can have it for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
he's like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
that's a lot of money look
I'll give you the first shot
I'll let my assistant bring it to the airport
brought it to the airport
read it before he got on the plane
called Jeff Berg and said I want it
Jeff Berg says cool
flies to London gets to London
whatever ten hours later picks up the phone
calls Jeff Berg says
so how we doing got this deal done listen
I don't have to tell you this Mario but uh
I gave the script
to a few other people and uh
the price has gone up a little bit
he's like what's the price gone up to
um two point seven
five million
he's like
you mother fuck two points
you told me it was two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars I know I'm sorry
I just wanted to see what it could get
do you still want it
he's like you mother fuck
what does it take for me to have this
script Berg says
three million dollars and you can have it
he's like god shit
I'm hanging up this
phone and I have this
script for three million you tell
me right now you give me a word
I give you my word he hangs up the phone
he paid three million dollars
for a script that was basic
instinct so there's all
these stories like this like Sam
Goris the president of paradigm
this guy you talk about getting
the shit kicked out of you
biggest moment of his life
uh
1998-99
Jerry Maguire his client
Cuba Gooding Jr
Wednesday Academy Award
he's going through all the parties
you know how it is with your agent
they're congratulating everybody's hugging you
Sam you deserve it
Sam this is great they're
hugging each other they're everything
but he's high five until six in the morning
every party he gets
in the office that day around noon
he gives himself a little break gets in
a call that comes in the office
Cuba Gooding Jr
hey listen Sam this isn't really
working out your agents
are a little too small for me I'm gonna
I'm gonna move on to a bigger agency
thanks buddy
okay gets the
shit kicked out of him I say how do you handle
that he said I went home that
night and I spent
all night long laying out
the plans of what paradigm
would be a literary agency
we'd have the commercial agency
we'd have actors we'd bring
all these people in and I'd
build an agency so where that
would never happen to me again if it did
I'd never have to worry about it
so everybody has their moments
and unique things that they talk about
that are just
absolutely incredible that you get
to hear it's
Deon Warwick I interviewed Deon
Warwick which isn't out yet
you talk about cracked
foundations if you remember her
and this is before a lot of people's time
but Deon Warwick is the probably I believe
the second highest selling
female singer in history
Whitney Houston's there too
and so she
she is a backup singer
for the Drifters in New York
she's going from Hartford to New York
to do the backup singing
and she meets Burt
Backarack and Hal David
this young writing
team and they say
we want to write for you
we want to do a contract with you
we love your voice we want to
write songs for you we think we can
do great things
she says okay but I just want to let
you know that one song that you
played me that you guys
I want to record that one
first I just want
you to know that in our deal that's the
one I want to record first
they say no problem they do the deal
they say come a month later she's
driving to New York a month later
she turns on the radio
that song is on the radio
with a different artist
they fucked her
on the contract
and I said to her
how do you start a relationship
with a cracked foundation like that
where you have to work with these people
you have a contract how do you know
they're not going to fuck you again
she said it's very rare
I sat down with them
I told them how unhappy I was
I told them how things had to be
and if that ever happened again
I would never do business with them again
and from that point on
the relationship was like 20 number one hits
so
everybody has a story
that's unique of how they came up
or they got fired or something happened
Phil Rosenthal
the creator of every bit of loves Raymond
in college
he's writing
and he thinks he has talent
and he's writing this thing with two other people
and
it's becoming successful
it's like an off-broadway thing
it's doing well
it's Tony and Tina's wedding
and right when it starts to do well
he gets a call from
the other writers saying listen
we don't need you anymore
and he didn't register anything with the writer's guilt
didn't do anything
and he got completely fucked
and he lost millions and millions
of dollars
but he worked hard every day
and wouldn't you know
he signed the largest deal
for a half hour comedy
writer in history
I believe it was 50 million dollars
so everybody has their story
of how they persevered through
these stories that
in their lives that really were bone crushing
and how they came back
and how they persevered
and I think that's what everybody
I think examples that they need to see
that happened because everybody has those low moments
I mean
you know the low moments that you've been through
and you know where you are right now
and with this podcast
that's why you're so such an inspiration
is because
you know I don't have to
I will say this to your audience
maybe you don't tell them or not
before you did this podcast
you might have thought about quitting
the business
not quitting I was gonna
not go on the road and just do sets in town
and just do TV
and film work to keep my insurance alive
that was it
I found the loophole and I was content with it
and so look what happened
you were at your lowest point
in your mind
anybody who's an artist
who thinks about giving up what they love
for the most part
that's the lowest of the low
but you found a way
to get the word out
to people
and it's the thing is
this is what people don't understand
and I know you're laughing
for some other reason
but this is the thing that people don't understand
it doesn't matter if
99 out of 100
people hate you
if one of those
100 love you you're a superstar
you're fucking done
there's 7 billion people
on the planet
if one out of a million people
love you
you're a star
a small commitment always becomes
a bigger commitment
all you need is one guy
and you build on that
I don't know Barry
I just wanted to
that was my biggest
and oh god you devil
he's in a restaurant with this girl
and he's got a kid
he's got a fake defunct
that he likes quitting music
to have a day job
that was one of my biggest fears
having to wrap my tail and go back to Denver
that was my biggest fear
was having to be one of those guys
L.A. for gay people
I didn't want to do that
I knew that if you worked hard
you'd get a little opening
I didn't want to be Seinfeld
I never wanted to be Seinfeld
I just wanted to prove to myself
I could do this
nice and easy
no static at all
Jerry will be the first one to tell me
comedian
shut up and do the fucking work
he wouldn't say fuck though
but he'd say shut up
stop complaining
do the work
let me give some shout out to you
Bobby Sharon, happy birthday
Cocksucker
Chris McDougal
Don Wrangler
Mike Vincent
James Harrison
Zachary Alaska
William McGrath
you're fucked up
sure you're fucked up
that star of David wasn't too bad today
so I'm thinking of doing the bypass
sleeve
I went to the psychiatry session
today I went to the support group
a timeout here
you have to go to a psychiatry session
to figure out what you're going to do
that's what they require
all this stuff
they require a ton of shit
does your audience know what this requires
it's fascinating
do you mind going into it
no
my blood pressure is really high
it's hereditary
it was high when I was in shape
and over the years it's just got worse and worse
I dropped a hundred pounds
but the weight's not coming off fast enough
I've had two surgeries on the knees
and they messed up an EKG
and I became friends with this cardiologist
and he recommended it to me
years ago and I said no
I go to Weight Watchers and they were successful for me
but now
it's like you had a plateau
I need to move the weight too fast
so he goes well
I spoke to Lisa Lampinelli
and she had the sleeve done
her husband had it done
she's divorcing
but before you go into it
because the audience and a lot of people don't know
what the sleeve is
we spoke about it on Monday's podcast
today was the day
the requirements
you have to go meet with the doctor
they break the dietitian down
tell you what to expect
it's like a four hour fucking thing
you go they give you a checkup
you have to see this list
you have to go to a support group
for one week in mandatory
and then you have to go to a different support group
you have to go see a psychotherapist
and do a test
a psychiatrist and do a test
and speak to them about the commitment level
of what this takes
because it's not just getting a surgery
so today this morning I got up
and I went and took the
like I said the test
and they go over the scores
and they go see things
what do you mean by that
I go Cosby
I knew he was a fucking tree jumper
and she just looked at me
like what are you talking about
stupid things like that
that's what they ask
tree jumper
yeah and then tonight I had to go
to this thing
from 6.30 to 7.30 at St. Joe's hospital
where they do the surgeries
and it was just about food
big decision
are there any things that they've said
about the food or things that you didn't share on Monday
that you can share today
I think this is fascinating
what do they tell you not to eat
well once you here's what Lee and I were discussing
before you arrived
we were discussing that
the commitment level is such
that if you did the commitment level
without the surgery
you'd still drop to 60 fucking pounds
because I got to go on a liquid fast
for a month before the surgery
and a month after the surgery
what did you lose
70 pounds okay then
so what's the fucking difference
so these are the doubts that you get
as you get closer
now this group tonight had people
who were in pre-op
people like me that was still in the beginning phase
people who were in pre-op
were 30 days away from their surgery
10 days away from their surgery
then they had a couple guys there that were
you know a couple years after the surgery
and they're still struggling
so if I'm going to give you my fucking stomach
and I can't eat Chinese food no more
what's the sense
if I'm still going to be struggling
three years later
you're going to kosher Chinese food
I just don't understand that point
I was giving you half my stomach
to end this drama
not because I got to go fucking
work my ass off afterward
the surgery is like just a deterrent
and you get sick if you eat too much
right you get sick if you eat too much
yeah it's not like a magic pill
no no it's not at all
how's Lisa doing
Lisa Lampin oh it looks great
you know everybody in New York that New York circle
got very awoken
when Dan Lafini just died at 51
so she did it
the husband did it
the chick from the view
the comedian
Rosie O'Donnell
oh and then the uh
Mike and Molly chick just lost a bunch of weight
did she do the surgery? I don't know if she did the surgery
I saw her the other day she looks kind of big
I don't know what fucking surgery she did
I don't know I just saw her on the headline
oh she lost weight maybe
but that's another reason
I have a two year old I was raised without a father
I get along with this little girl
I just uh I don't know
I get scared sometimes
when I went to the initial consultation
it was three in the afternoon
I didn't drive on the 405
I didn't cut nobody off
when I walked in there after taking my blood pressure medication
it was still
190 over 114
that's not good
was it supposed to be?
120 over 80
so there's reasons
there's also mitigating circumstances
that's basically it
it's not like I'm not trying
or working out I'm trying
this is the thing
if I have a suggestion for you
you haven't asked me for my suggestion
you're a comedy man you ain't no fucking doctor
so you know what I'm saying
but it all applies
now for Lee
now I don't know his history
but the pattern right now
is that he was at 315
and now he's at
245
235
and so whatever he's doing
the pattern he's doing right now
in his life is working
now
he might be committed to this for his life
or he might not be
but I'm trying to be
it sucks because everyone
when you lose weight you gain it back
it sucks taking it back off
but it's not committed to this pattern
you're okay Joey for you
you've been trying to do it your way
your whole life it hasn't worked
so why not go with God
and let somebody else try to do it a different way
you know and that's the same with management
it's like artists come into my office
and they've been doing things their way
their whole life
and I'm asking them
to try something a different way
try a different approach
and it's the same with anybody who's going to be successful
you do things
look when you audition
for a role and you get it
all you have to do the next time you audition
is think about what you did to get that role
you don't go into the next
audition thinking let me
do this audition the way I blew
that last audition
and it's the same with life with this operation
no are you involved absolutely
so you've been doing things trying to lose weight
well it's not like you coming to me and saying
I have this new Jewish technology
to lose weight from Israel
and stomach barricades
it's not you saying to me I have a new diet
we're going to eat hummus
I'd rather lose half my stomach than my whole life
no I agree with you
I just don't know the
I have to just think more
and look at this whole food choice thing a little more
than give up your stomach
that's a big fucking commitment
did surgery make you nervous
in 2015 Lee
they've done you know
this medicine has helped us move on
moving to 70 to 60
now it's helping people live to 80
you know
so I got a few years left is what you're saying
yeah man you got tons of fucking time
you know in good shape you take care of yourself
you got no stress
I was just before I came here I was fitting my walker
for tennis balls you still got 3 million
hidden in singles you know
what the fuck you still got 3 million in a mattress
in Miami get away money just in case
from your mouth to God's ears
come on stop all you fucking Jews
got some money hidden away in their mattress
you won't touch it you could be starving
for fucking days you could be
sitting there like Gandhi losing weight by the minute
don't ever go a night long
and you'll look at that fucking money
and go fuck it I'd rather
start before I break that 20
Lee sonny I tell him cock sucker
these eating bagels
from Rouse every day the package
every day every year
I love you guys I'm gonna be at
uh
helium buffalo next week
get ready to freeze your ass off
and the week after that I'm at the Columbus
funny bone you understand me
so hopefully your people will be out there
Super Bowl weekend where you at Lee
I'm here aren't you going to San Diego this weekend
for your anniversary next weekend
look at you where you taking her to
huh she went to college in San Diego
so she's taking me around
is she yeah you have a good time
what hotel are you staying at
I forget we did one of those deals
you get like a five star room
and you just don't know where it is
I just have to put it in and take your chances
but in like a good area and a good
class so we did that it's like
it's not a name brand hotel
but it's right downtown so it should be fun
you know being in a museum the zoo where you
going to go no she wants to drink
drink you going to get some tacos and shit
hell yeah that's why I love this guy
he's honest he's a fucking savage
look at him
that's motherfucker fucking Barry telling
me the best manager in town look at you
I never said he wasn't going to fuck
I never said the gills
I never said you were going to be a manager
telling people to suck your dick and shit
all I said was
all I said was
what I think you need to do to be the best
he's the best he's almost there
he's going to get this shit some day
Lee is here
Lee is here as your co-host you could
have anybody as your co-host but he chose
you you know why he chose you
I'm not sure because you're the best for him
please the fucking man
it doesn't matter that you went 0 for 13
you went 1 for 1 here at the church
what's happening listen man
at his age
I would have missed this podcast 10
times when we were doing it at 6 in the morning
he was here every morning before I was
you know he's responsible he's a young man
he's great man and this town
people get excited about stuff
I found something I was cleaning my drawer
and I found something at the bottom of the drawer
somebody gave me
and this was just remarkable
like 4 years ago they gave me bank
information
and the investor information
and what they were going to do with this movie
and it was the kid from Superbad
they had him attached
and what they were going to do
and this girl today is selling flowers
in Seattle she just Facebooked me
and wished me a merry Christmas
like one of those mass merry Christmas things
and I looked and I go what have happened to that bro
oh my god that's who's script that was
she had an investor
in the Hollywood Hills who was giving a 7 million
she just disappeared one day
so for him to stick it out
I applaud him
most people would have tapped out right now
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run and shit
at the CES
in Las Vegas
Dave Foley over there shaking hands
tim cannelly letting motherfuckers know
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also
you're sitting there
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blood is a drug
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I started reading and it fucking grabbed me
I'm going to do a review of this book
not fucking bad he sent it to me nice kid
he's been on me for about a year to read his stuff
in the holidays I found some time
to read a couple books and I read one of his
we're going to review it very interesting
about Afghanistan
the whole fucking deal
so that's it what do you got planned for the future though
what's going on right now
at my man fucking Barry Katz Enterprises
well I got some great
podcasts coming up on industry standard
I got Rob Schneider coming up
I just did the best of
2014 and
and Deon Warwick which would be exciting
so but most of all
I'm excited to be here and I'm honored
and it's a privilege honestly to be here
to be asked back
you have no idea how full I am
I love you Barry Katz I didn't forget about you baby boy
I just I don't see you out no more
to get to get that call
to get that call it was
really really touching
you fucking don't come out no more you're in the manager
witness relocation playing
well I guess I have the Joe Ideas philosophy
people ask me to come out and say
fuck what do I have to come out for
that's true you're home you got everything a man
can want like Sosa
did you about Cassius Morris he got like
Donald Rawlings on his show
he's doing like a live podcast
I'm a club up there
Cassius Morris doesn't play games you understand me
but anyway have a good night
I love you guys we'll see you Sunday night
stay black have a great week
and don't forget buffalo next weekend
and the weekend after that the columbus funny bone
thank you very much
Lee Kevigetti is slipping
thank you
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