Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #260 - Doc Willis, Joey Diaz, and Lee Syatt

Episode Date: February 25, 2015

Doc Willis, Comedian, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout. 
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Recorded live on 02/24/2015.
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 Brother's Gonna Work It Out - Public Enemy The Song Remains The Same - Led Zeppelin

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Starting point is 00:02:02 Churchill was happening. Now I got my main man Lee in studio, my main man Doc. What's your last name, Doc? Willis. It is Doc Willis. I was like, who the fuck? I thought there was a baseball player some shit. What's up, D? Good to have you here. You know, I've been a fan of yours for a long fucking time. Man, I'm more of a fan of you. Love you like a motherfucker. What's up with you, cocksucker? Not much. I had a kind of easy day. Okay, you got an easy day. Get up and fucking eight, then you sit there for 10, and then I call you two. What are you doing? I'm here. What the fuck are you doing? Get up. Out. I worked on a blog. You put out a blog yesterday. You did? You put it out already? Yeah, that's why I love you, bro. A blog. Oh, blog. You don't fuck around. I'm trying to do
Starting point is 00:02:45 some writing. Trying. You're in the bid, bro. You're going to Florida this week and you have to be Keeney ready? Oh, no. My dad goes nowhere near pool. How about SPF number 10? No, he got a pound of locks. A pound of locks for you guys. He just he called me. Did he say, I think I got too much locks. I got a pound and six bagels. It's gonna last till Sunday. Well, yeah, we're gonna be there. Well, we're gonna be bagels today. Yeah, what's wrong with him? You get those daily fresh. That's why he sends you and you bring them back fresh. That's right. That's right. Yeah, don't forget it. Throw those bagels out. But the time I get there, you're gonna need fresh fucking bagels unless you get them in a power tech and routes or something like that. They're terrible. Those fucking things.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I don't know where you got them. Yeah, you got to get nice. You like bagels? Yeah, I kill them. You kill those motherfuckers. What's your favorite? You know what they got this, uh, like pizza flavor kind. Where? I get them at this coffee shop. It's got like cheese and like a pizza sauce on it, man. Shit. Tell me shit. They got that place by the Fairfax that makes a nice bagel there. Fairfax and what? Fairfax and Sunset on that side. Next to the supermarket, they do a turkey. Bristol farms. Next to Bristol farms. Next to have a bagel place right next to Bristol farms. I ain't never paid no attention. Not bad. Not bad. I went in Bristol farms for the first time. I was like that. Yeah, they don't fuck around there. You go in there with a hundred. They'll
Starting point is 00:04:05 take it. Yeah, yeah. Bristol farms don't fuck around, Jack. They find out when you go in, they have something that reads your wallet and says how much is in your ATM card. They'll take it. They'll raise the fucking fish prices. They'll do everything. Every time I go in, I drop 50 bucks for fucking lunch. They got great lunch. Oh, they do? They got, yeah, they got good food. Oh, shit. I just went in there and bought a cake. I mean, the cakes is fucking. Yeah, they don't fuck around. They don't fuck around at Bristol farms. There, man. That's the dynamic. We haven't talked about your birthday cake, Joey. Oh, the fucking ice cream cake. It was delicious. Carvel cake. We got a little one, the little, little, little one. And me, Lee, my wife, and the baby
Starting point is 00:04:41 ate some fucking delicious Carvel, bro. I don't even know what that is. Oh, shit. Ice cream cake. They got on my rounds. Little ones. They got like chocolate. This one was mocha. No, it wasn't mocha. Like, I don't like mocha and I was too hard to tell you, but I don't like mocha. It was like double chocolate. Had like little chocolate balls on the outside. Oh, those little chocolate chips off the chain. I have a little piece. I still got in the refrigerator. There's some left. Still in the refrigerator, but it's fucking got freezer burn. My wife didn't close the back end, so it tastes like a fucking shrimp or something like that. I hate that shit. Yeah, when somebody puts something in the fridge and they don't cover it, and it's not the whole fridge, it smells like
Starting point is 00:05:15 Cubans. My mother would do that shit. You go to eat flan. It smells like steak and onions. You're like, what the fuck, man? You got to cover this shit. But Cubans don't give a fuck. They'll just put the whole turkey in there with no cover. And everything tastes like fucking turkey in the fucking house. That shit drives me crazy. You hear the Red Sox sander Cuban on the Cuban kid? Yeah. I'll be too. But it's hysterical. It was a 31 million dollars, but the side kick was it was a 31 million dollar tax. You know that tax goes to? Right. Fidel like a motherfucker. You think so? I know so. Who's the tax for? Who's the 31 million dollar tax go to? I don't know. So it was 31 million to sign him. Then there was a 31 million dollar tax. I think
Starting point is 00:05:56 whatever the signing bonus was, it would be the tax. It's the tax. So who do you think that tax goes to? They wanted the embargo to be lifted. That's Fidel's paper. All right. So next time you talk about Jews, you better fucking check into Fidel's heritage. Because that motherfucker don't stop, man. Carlos like that, the big drug dealer that worked as a meddling cartel all those years, went up in front of Congress. Once he was in jail and he ratted out Fidel. He said we were giving him 800,000 a ship. Wow. Fidel didn't care what was on that ship. I don't know. I don't care if you're going to make 20 billion. I want 800,000 a ship. Think about that. They were sending out 10 ships a week. I'm surprised that Fidel is still alive. He's got too much paper. He's like
Starting point is 00:06:38 sure. When you get that type of money, you don't die. Old Jews don't die. They keep doing fucking plastic surgery and putting them in caves and shit. They don't die to that last dollar respect because they ain't leaving shit to their fucking relatives. Those fucking Jews are fucking. I love them. I love Jewish people. That's so cutthroat. I love them. But I was telling you guys today that I have an agent. I have a theatrical agent. I have a voice and they're all in the same building. Nice people. It's all the same agency. Theatrical is a little weak and whatever is a little weak. But things are bad all over in LA. Things are not what they used to be for addition. People are freaking out. It's horrible. So I talked to this old agent I had years ago. He called me out of the
Starting point is 00:07:18 blue with a conversation. He says his agency was number 55 ranking and all this. I said you know what man? I'll come down and talk to you. That's all I said. Let me come down and talk to you. Just so happened last Tuesday I had a meeting. So I had to cancel his and then Thursday I had an audition. I got a callback for an animated game. One of those fucking called a video game. So the meeting was Thursday at 2. My callback was Thursday at 2. When I get signs like that, that's something. Something. When something doesn't want me to go somewhere, that's a sign. No matter how good it sounds. You're superstitious like that too. Very superstitious. Very superstitious you know. If you're supposed to go somewhere on a Wednesday you don't know and
Starting point is 00:08:00 it rains then the next day something else happens. You're not supposed to go down there. Don't even go down there. So that Thursday I called him like a man. He's an agent so I can't lie to him. I go hey man I got a call back to producers. I got a meet with the producers from Pembroke, Frank. They were casting direct in the valley. They put me in maybe six movies, seven movies in ten years. Great fucking people. Real loose. You could tell they get high. Everybody they're because young kids they talk about dope. They got music playing in there you know. So I called him like a man. I go hey man I got a produce session. I can't meet with you. He goes well if you want to you could still file your agent. I go why would I want to do that?
Starting point is 00:08:37 I have to pay two commissions. I'm paying two commissions. I got a two-year-old bro. I'm paying two commissions. I go let me figure this out and I'll call you back. But he called me during my birthday last Thursday. You were over. My wife we were having a good time. He called me at 6.15 which I'm not big on. Don't call me at 6.15 unless it's an envelope. Don't be calling me to chitchat. It's dinner. You know what I'm saying? I would never call somebody at 6 o'clock. It's in case you know. So I talk to him Thursday. I go all right we'll talk tomorrow. The next day I don't call him. You know I get busy. His mother fuck calls me again at 6 o'clock. Now I'm at the church with the baby and the wife and they show movies and they get
Starting point is 00:09:15 free tacos and shit. Just something for kids. It was like 80 kids running around. So I'm not going to be here for three weeks. I figure I go. 6.15 this mother fuck calls me again. And he starts his routine. I go I stopped my number two. I told you yesterday I'm not paying two commissions. And number one I'm dear friends with one of the agents. Let me talk to him and once this is all done. Once I shoot it I'll sign with you. But right now it's a fucking nightmare if I do this. This is what happened to me last year. I left my agent and I had to shoot Marin and now the both agents wanted money. I ain't giving you shit. Trust me. I won't give it to you. We'll rip this contract up right now. If I get it I ain't giving you a fucking dime. I work too hard.
Starting point is 00:09:53 So I tell them at the end I go listen let me fix this shit. Let me shoot the project and I'll fucking sign with you. I got a call from my agent today saying hey man who'd you sign with. They're already on your IMDB and they took me off Showfax. They mean that you can't even submit. I looked at this. I just called the agency and I go tell them to call me back and I called the cell and I go you know are you a fucking asshole or are you taking fucking lessons. I call you like a man. I talk to you like a fucking man and tell you the truth what's going on and you go behind my back and take my agency off my fucking wall without my permission. I can call SAG. You're getting in trouble for that shit. I ain't a crime stopper. I go you're a fucking asshole now we're
Starting point is 00:10:34 done. Don't ever call me back again. You know you have an hour to get this all fucking whatever an hour. And then I see that the guy that was helping me in New York he disappeared too. He took him off. That's the way this guy is. I mean that's how people are in LA like bitches like fucking how old is he 50 40 doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck if he's fucking 10 nobody like when I was younger like you get something like I used to get excited about something I'd be too over anxious and that always kills things like you you can't seem to to need you or so I didn't know if he was young or I talked to him as a man. There's no young when you talk to somebody as a man and go explain the situation to him he still does it. He did it because he's a devious
Starting point is 00:11:17 motherfucker. You're like a little bitch. See how I met this guy was he used to be partners with my old manager. Guess what happened. My old manager and his wife broke up. This guy started dating they've been together for eight years. So right there you got to suspect somebody right there. That's just that's my my manager's fault for not checking them. So right there when he told me that I'm with her now she's just to say hello I was like in my world that's not cool. That's not cool. That's not cool. But as we were talking that's LA. You get these people that they were raised out here that don't even know they're they hang out with gentrified Gentiles. So they have no you know it's like we found out now what I was saying on stage that the joke is true. When I wrote it
Starting point is 00:12:00 it was true. I didn't know if you wanted to bring these Gentiles you know there's a big thing with the peanut allergy. Yeah. And once I discovered this my head almost blew up because this is unheard of. This is unheard of in any other culture. In any other culture when you have an allergy to something you you feed it you know and in fucking Greece if you're allergic to bees they'll get a bunch of bees and stick me with them and shit until your bee allergy goes away. But when I was a kid I figured this out. When I was a kid I just like maple syrup and I couldn't have it so I started eating and eventually the maple syrup your body allergy. Same thing with dogs. I got bit by dogs eight times because I was allergic to them so I get creepy around them like don't touch them don't
Starting point is 00:12:38 touch them. And they bite me. So once I figured out you talk to them and you hang out with them the allergies go away. This lady was telling me no once you have a peanut allergy he has it forever I go no he don't. If he's about 50 he'll have it forever. But if you take a kid that's five with a peanut allergy and you give him a little peanut you blend that motherfucker every day. You don't give him a whole peanut and kill the motherfucker. You just give him a little bit every day let him itch for a little while eventually you build your fucking resistance to it. And where they do the study and fucking Israel with the Jews because it's a cult. See there's a problem that happened in this country right now all these yuppies they gentrified Americans. They're like third generation
Starting point is 00:13:13 fourth generation whatever they had loyalty to their culture is completely gone. They're just white bread wonder bread motherfuckers walking around lying to people with no character with their fake fucking glasses and you know the Jones that they drink Starbucks every day they pay eight bucks for coffee. That's gentrified Gentiles they want to be a part of in their dick. They got nothing inside just those little fake glasses and their tattoo. They roll up their sleeves you make sure and see that tattoo. They ain't got nothing that means they got nothing inside that's why they're putting the fucking tattoos on. So you know these motherfuckers are telling me no no no you're gonna die my kid dies your kid ain't gonna fucking die. The culture has changed like my mother used to
Starting point is 00:13:55 check under my eyelids. Did you know that when I was a kid every morning when I wake up she'd go come here she'd check under my eyelids to see the blood under that. If there wasn't enough blood under that she'd make me a fucking red steak. This is when I was five okay. We grew up on a thing called emulsive of cod not cod liver oil emulsive of cod. It's like taking a fish and putting in the blender with the bones and the eyes and the tail and drinking that shit. Now and when I was a kid it came white it was white. They have that CVS but now because kids are pussies they have them strawberry flavored and cherry flavored. They ain't no flavor. That flavor is that it's like strong fucking sperm. They give it to you in a spoon when you're a kid. Cuban minds give it to you in a spoon
Starting point is 00:14:36 you never get the flu. I was never sick as a kid. I was never sick that I got I never had flu or cough. I was a sickly kid till about eight and then it all changed because my mom said fuck these American doctors. I'm gonna take care of you my way. Lee and I were talking about this that cultures you know different cultures have different remedies. Mexicans if you get your nose busted don't put a penny on your forehead to make your nose stop bleeding. Does it work? Who gives a fuck? It may don't but they believe that. Some cultures just have different fucking remedies. Paula's mom makes voodoo drinks. It has like different spices or she said it tastes like wood to be honest. And what does it do for you? I don't know Paula had it when she had a surgery
Starting point is 00:15:16 that that the word could have been cancer but it wasn't and then her mom took it for something in her stomach so it just I think it's just like they have different things for like just any like general fixes but I was I'm actually worried about that. My mom has been really on like a germ cake lately like she always has the sanitizer and she won't touch certain things and and she she like she got nerf she she was like in the elevator she presses the buttons with her elbows she's nerf she like doesn't want to get germs and I'm like I your mom has been your mom has been slipping for years you know this I love you but you know but there's a lot of people who do that no they don't because they're not jews you know why jews don't give a fuck because what's the
Starting point is 00:15:58 filthiest thing you could touch a dick a dollar bill any jew that's worried about germs he's a fucking puke all right because any jew knows you gotta pick if there's a $20 bill with shit on it a jew will pick that motherfucker up blow that shit in the air and put that in his pocket he ain't worried about hepatitis and germs that's a fucking 20 with shit on it I'll pass that cbs to the Puerto Rico never know your mom's like as I said she's too gentrified away from culture you know she's not touching doors and shit I don't touch a door at 7-eleven but they give you a dollar with fucking a bowl on it I'm taking that motherfucking dollar you understand me so tell your mom to get the jew back in it she needs to put the hat on it's hilarious $20 covered in my
Starting point is 00:16:45 fucking line in my line to you I'm probably sure you would me too I don't give a fuck when I was a kid there was a net one day I had changed in my thing and I wanted the toilet and there was shit floating and I put my hand in this shit as a kid like under the shit it was touching my it was my own shit it's not like it's a stranger shit I took the change I don't give a fuck and you wash your hand and I lived nobody fucking dies doc what's up you bad motherfucker doc how long I know you now sure probably roughly I started doing open mic in and out of the comedy store in the early 2000 like 2001 and then I'll come back here and there here and there so I've been knowing you since she was hosting open mics back then two two thousand yeah yeah so it's been about 13 14 years 15 years
Starting point is 00:17:30 2015 so you were a little kid when I met you right yeah yeah not a little kid I was about 26 I'm a little kid yeah yeah yeah you can't be no 31 now I'm 41 41 yeah you were a little kid when I met you were Lee's age when I met yeah amazing you had to start doing your thing now right was comedy store guys but I disappeared for seven years right I had different reasons I knew that uh I knew I was there when it all went down right but I knew my reason I had been going away from there a little earlier I knew that to open up other doors you had to close that door I had been at the store too long yeah it felt like and it felt like it was going a different direction and the direction was that his name was Tommy right and uh I was friends with Joe and I go down there and Joe would
Starting point is 00:18:18 put me and Ari before him right and he always had a problem with that he didn't like that he wouldn't say that the Joe he'd say it to me and then when Joe went on tour with whatever a comedy with Eddie Murphy's brother and John Efron Joe Rogan yeah went on tour in 2005 with those guys and that's when when he was gone Tommy would say things to me and I would say time what you're saying this shit to me for about the whole time he's falling in love with that puke Capparulo right right and he's milking Capparulo he's telling Capparulo he's funny and Carlos Mancey and Joe Rogan he's more than all these people and I like John at the time me and John got along it was when John sided with him right and then uh I had a couple problems and they had problems with uh Tommy but I also had
Starting point is 00:19:03 a problem with Dean do you remember I almost smacked Dean yeah I went outside and that's when week later was when I joined Kung Fu with the brothers on Vermont because that's when I realized I was so much out of shape right that was why I said to you Steve Byrne gave me that look that night and Steve saw the crazy I mean Steve never really talked to me after that because I was gonna go after Dean uh when they were shooting that thing with the store one night the mining the mine the store right it was one night TBS came in to see Paulie so Paulie made sure that me and Rogan and a bunch of us wouldn't go up so Rogan got into an argument with Paulie and Dean in the hallway and I was sitting outside and I turned my back because the things they were saying to Joe
Starting point is 00:19:46 I thought Joe was gonna knock them out and I honestly turned my back for the lie detector test but I did not see nothing the manager yeah not Dean Delray the company no Dean Gilbert so Dean and I got into words and I pushed them and people got in between us I just didn't like him either I just didn't fucking like him why or who I don't know why uh I was on the coke you know I had my problems you know and uh I just felt it I just felt that he wasn't a cool dude Tommy and I knew it doesn't take a genius in my life to know when I'm gonna have problems with somebody yeah so after the thing went down with Carlos and those pussy ass comics turned on Joe I had no reason to go down there because I'm the type of guy if you can't have a voice if they scared you with a spot
Starting point is 00:20:33 then I don't want to be your friend I don't give a fuck if you're a comic and that's my problem with comics that their loyalty is not for us if it's between your friendship and a spot at a club don't go with the spot yeah that's what I don't like either man all right man I'm that whole ordeal was my thing at the store yeah I didn't know what time man I knew he was racist now imagine this you was able to just walk out and leave now I could have walked out and leave but my thing was was like I was an employee there so I was exposed to way more than what you are and so my thing was was like why run you know I'm saying I'm like if these guys are gonna be bitches yeah and I'm just gonna I'm gonna be the only one that's gonna be causing hell around here
Starting point is 00:21:16 because I was like Tommy ain't going he he's not gonna get away with this shit when I'm here you know and I'm like so I went for a force whatever or whatever I had to get towards now nothing threw up we use it we use it at night when I went off in the main room with I know yeah I know I was there for them it was I thought it was for the Marilyn Martinez thing yeah I was there that's not I went off yeah pull me off and I was going I was working outside okay when you went off and so I didn't see what happened all I know is that they came to me and told me what happened and I was like what Joe and then and then from there I know that that you either left or they banned you or whatever some shit what I had left that was about three months I wasn't
Starting point is 00:21:58 really going there anymore I hadn't made any decisions yet right I just kept telling Tommy and everybody I was on the road I just wouldn't go down there right because I at that time Capurulo started getting an attitude like he was a tough guy he didn't know he'd be flying through a fucking window if it came down to it he just got crazy down there so I knew before he got crazy right I'm gonna get the fuck out of here there's no reason to hang out here no more right and then I heard the allegations of racism I heard that he told a couple black comics to get the fuck out of here right I heard that he called a woman a nigga to her face or something yeah they got into it I don't know what the deal was I just heard this through the years and I'm like and I had you know
Starting point is 00:22:35 Tom Petty as they called them right racist he was great man it was horrible I could tell when somebody don't like spits and niggas and chanks I could tell they don't take a fucking genius they just have a certain aura to them I only met him a couple times and he was he was weird to me just because I was very lucky as Steve and Tony would put my name down so but he talked to me like I maybe thought I was an agent or something but as a fan of podcasts I've heard nothing but bad things about him like so why do you think he lasted for as long as he did because the brothers was fighting over the club you had Paulie and Peter fighting over the club and and Peter had no idea what was going on because Peter lives in Oregon and Paulie was there so they were fighting because
Starting point is 00:23:16 one felt one was that Peter felt like Paulie was too selfish and he didn't know how to run a club and then he was only trying to do it for his own benefit and then Paulie felt like Peter you are you not here you don't know what's going on so it was just like a whole lot in between and and financial and stuff like that so at them while they were fighting and going to court because it was in it was on the news and right on internet so like what they was going through that there was nobody there to do anything for him because he he was the door guy and he wound up like like uh he wound up being like an errand boy for her because you know how all of his employees just had to run water over there sometimes take her to their house so he started doing that consistently
Starting point is 00:23:57 then he started being around her more then he started taking her to the doctor and doing all this other stuff and then Duncan trusted Duncan trusted what yeah he quit so then Mitzi at the same time she was dilapidating mentally you know struggling with the Parkinson dementia you know what I'm saying so like the more she was breaking down what she would do is she would make the list give it to Tommy and then she would come in and check and make sure that there was the people going up and as time went on she taught him but she she started breaking down quick and once she got pulled once the brothers kind of like pulled out equations because she couldn't she couldn't be there anymore they just left him in power because that was all he knew so there was it was
Starting point is 00:24:33 like he was just in a position where nobody else was there you know nobody so he got that position and then all hell broke loose because he started implementing his dumb ass rules and then he started putting like his own personal feelings towards it the racist shit and all that and it and it and it killed the the the life of the club for everybody else who was getting spots and getting on to them it was like no it was great when he took over I was like you know every time they say that I go hey man well name the people who made the club hot and if you name all the motherfuckers that he named them all the people that Mitzi passed and all the motherfuckers that he was working the doors so what that tell you she knew what the fuck she was doing everything has an up and down
Starting point is 00:25:12 to it you know what I'm saying so people didn't realize that she was on a down curve she was on the down part on her way back up so as soon as that happened Sebastian got hot Cabrillo got hot Steve Burns start coming around they got Ian Edwards they start getting all these guys coming in and at that time that's right after Joe left because Joe Joe left and then so all these guys just started rising and people were like praising him and I'm like come on man you can't you can only give him a certain part of the praise and that was in his very very minute part of it but but to the put it to the other guys who getting spots or he did this he did that now look what happened Adam takes over in less than five months he's doing twice as better than this dude you see what
Starting point is 00:25:50 I'm saying so that automatically lets you know where where where he was meant the thing that bugged me and I think bugs a lot of people at any job is when a boss takes themselves too seriously and gives himself an apartment that's what he was doing that's what he was he lost his mind right but he became he became bud Friedman overnight he was telling comics what to do what to say how to say it how to dress and it's like who the fuck are you and I'm here with I'm living my life but I'm having these things going this just isn't right that you should be doing when I went down when I went down that he broke down to me the school of minting how he he formulated Tony Hinchcliffe well yeah well here's the thing what he was doing because he was
Starting point is 00:26:31 taking knuckleheads like T and just because they were young you know what I'm saying so he was just taking his own little school group of guys and saying okay let me try to cultivate these little dudes right that's the word he used and being yeah and he would push all the older guys out the door because he had this dumbass philosophy he would say comedies for 35 and under because basically what he was saying was as long as people was young enough for him to manipulate mentally he could do that you know what I'm saying so that was that was his whole thing and so he was trying to push these guys and make these guys into stars you can't make make people at the start they either got it or they don't you know what I'm saying you got to be about the game he wasn't true to the game
Starting point is 00:27:07 if you ain't true to the game you ain't gonna be shit you're only gonna be with the fuck you are so that's why he lost everything you know he had he had he had the world in his hands he had the number one club in california in my opinion you know what I'm saying and he he took that and manipulated it all for his own power trip and they ain't no it and thing is he didn't realize he was so insignificant in this world as far as the world of comedy he didn't realize that that's that's that's something that even the owners know that you know what I'm saying the owners know that yeah they got some some some part of it but this real game will we become as an individual and especially if you become a star or famous in my opinion you you do more than what a owner has ever done because it takes it it's
Starting point is 00:27:48 a level if there's a level to this game that that that a owner would never be able to experience as a stand-up comedian you know what I'm saying and so I look at the game and and I look at people like Tommy and I just I just brush him to the side man I used to get into arguments with him all the time because he used to try to tell me how to do my stuff he tell me he tried twice I told him shut the fuck up you don't know what you're talking about like you know you don't know what you what are you talking about he he would he would mimic missy shit I've been around and know what missy say you know what I'm saying so so he would say and you're not messy your beats is coming look I'm like look you ain't missy stop saying that say your own words it's just like you should
Starting point is 00:28:23 hear the people like oh Tommy man oh it was bad well you told me a story Joey about your roommate who was the talent coordinator right and so isn't it isn't part of a comics fault because you told you said like your roommate they kiss up to him because who he is we had this conversation at the and joe's podcast about the tape sending the tape right and it happens you ever go to a burger king a white castle there and you just anything I'm just using I'm using fast food and you're sitting there minding your business and some boss comes in and just goes off I had all those bosses and you're looking at the employee going are you and even the employees like something goes to the head they get this they become something other than what they're supposed
Starting point is 00:29:14 to pay they become too cool or sunglasses or they come in an hour late or they're in authority on everything now and you just don't have that in comedy right it affected me the most in comedy because again we'll bust it on motherfucking ass right and you're telling me my fucking business you're in a club in Kansas I got nothing against Kansas I'm just saying you're in a fucking little club in Kansas that nobody performs at just local guys and guys from the Midwest and you're telling me my fucking business about LA shut the fuck up and that was my beef and then they get too big like Mark Babitz and the guy from Tempe they get too big in their mind oh people really like me you know people think this I'm I'm an expert in comedy you know the guy in Tempe
Starting point is 00:29:59 wanted to be the guy here at the improv the guy from Houston wanted to be the guy here at the improv and it's like that guy I told him I was thinking about that story today the drummer from the crickets buddy Holly Bant who how he would do it to young the abuse that goes on with young comedians in a comedian that is trying to find his voice it's disheartening and that's why I don't give a fuck about these known comics when I see these young guys they're the ones that I give a hug to and let them know dog you're doing the right thing fuck this bitch throw a glass at that motherfucker fuck him fuck him make your marker and enforce it like they told you in Scarface because once you let motherfuckers know you ain't fucking with them they won't hide and that's good
Starting point is 00:30:42 because I'm gonna knock you out anyway or we're gonna get into an argument or I'm gonna quit or something's gonna happen or there's a flip side to this guys you guys are hearing me go enjoy why you're being so rough I'll tell you why because if you're not rough on them you're gonna be rough on yourself you're gonna take this abuse from these people and then you're gonna become something else that's gonna make you drink when it comes to your art I don't know about your fucking job your job is something different yeah your job you're working for them they're gonna go off that's what you're working for them no but there's a there's a difference every boss I ever had that acted like Tommy or seemed like Tommy acted like had no life outside of that place no absolutely
Starting point is 00:31:19 like what you're talking about when someone goes into that to their job and they're making twelve dollars an hour as a manager you're making nine as a regular employee and they're yelling at you and and you should be here 15 minutes early and and just yelling at you for for nothing it's oh that person always like is who doesn't have any friends he goes home and no one talks to him like I ain't I don't really trip too much on if a boss is yelling at me this depends if I'm not doing what I'm supposed to do and I can yell that that's fine I'm supposed to do what I'm supposed to do but like I gotta just constantly just own own 10 all the time yeah it's just like hold on man you know you you you're being disrespectful and and the hardest part is like I come from a rough
Starting point is 00:31:59 city you know and I grew up and and with a gang you know what I'm saying so as a teenager I was around I was around killers and and and we've been a part of I've been a part of something that that most people don't experience so when you have the mentality like I have it's hard to take to digest yeah to digest when somebody's not right they if they're not real you know what I'm saying like you if if I hate people who they they're only a certain way with certain people and then they flip when the next person come and I'm like what what is this I love my favorite you can talk about it I go to the store sometimes with Joey right and a lot of people have been very cool to me yeah but some people don't even make eye contact they won't they'll say hi to
Starting point is 00:32:46 everyone in the circle who they know and just turn their back to me right so you said you worked at the store like what do you what do you experience that would you experience comics being nice to everybody and then yelling at you to get their car I've had it happen and I've checked people I'm one of them do they have a problem with that you know what I'm saying so like especially don't fucking shake my hand and then tomorrow don't shake my hand you know what I'm saying now the flip side of that is this there are some people who in my stomach I can't stand and I'm not gonna lie to you like it's sometimes I just can't force myself to say hi sometimes I'm like man fuck this dude today but the difference between disliking somebody but
Starting point is 00:33:24 still respecting them and doing your job or dealing with them right right right right and then just awful though there are some bosses who treat people terribly yeah yeah yeah but that's just yeah that's just everywhere you know if anything anything anywhere I mean it was people in my own gang that that wasn't I wasn't cool with you know but that's just that's you learn that's that's everywhere you go there's somebody in some way shape or form no matter where you are that's like that you go to a church I guarantee you one of them church members you just ain't gonna get along you're gonna get along with everybody yeah you just that's what life is about yeah y'all whether it's connect whatever it is you know but because of because of what you're trying to
Starting point is 00:34:02 accomplish you just do it for the sake of that but other than that man when Hollywood is filled with fake people filled so so and you have to check that that's my that's where my mistake has been that I've always checked Hollywood people and the word got out right and people don't like to be checked anywhere else in the country I pull your side go hey man before you were a little rough on Lee right you were a little rough on me though you know right oh man I'm sorry I had a bad day my wife left me cool dog let me tell Lee right you know the next time he sees Leo pull Lee to the side and buy him a drink here don't look at you like you disrespect him like you blew up that fucking world I've been on sets I was on the set where a fucking director yelled at me I turned around and
Starting point is 00:34:43 said hey bitch before I became a comic or an actor I'm a fucking man and that's where it ends and I'm treat you like a man fuck this direct this shit with your little tattoos and your classes and your hats or a big nose you're a fucking director you know so when I come on the set if I can tell you the director I don't want to do business with you I want to see the guy's dress like a fucking bum as a director not because he's got the hat with the feather and his sleeves are rolled up and oh that's the director who gives a fuck fuck him yeah I'm kind of like when uh because I yell a lot at the comedy store you know I had a lot of people and it's it's it's it's primarily because I get too hot too fast you know I get I go from just to this and then a lot of it is because
Starting point is 00:35:27 of the fake people and the people who they don't really have a love for not just a game of comedy but just for people in general just for people in general yeah so they so they so they they only they they live in these self-centered worlds where they only exist but then they come in yours and you like no no no homie you like like if you pay attention the world you're coming in is mine and the world you're living in is is is yours and mine and mine is yours it's all the same world so so like how do you how how do you disrespect me like by by treating me like shit because you know this person and you you connected with that person and you man people so funny style it and and that I just I had a hard time with it Joe I started a hard time and at the comedy
Starting point is 00:36:17 store I have to work on that because you know people catch me they like man don't be yelling at me man and I'll just be like sorry man it's just sometimes I'm I get so mad at them because it's like they don't give a fuck man like like they'll just the guys would just be sitting on the door and and the whole the whole hallway would be filled with people talking in the hallway and comics is on the stage and I'm like dog like like what's your job like I shouldn't have to tell you to to clear this out dog like you know what I'm saying but it's like nobody cares I don't yell at them because I'm trying to be a boss I'm trying to yell at them to get them to understand that we all listen we all spend this together this comedy game it goes from the from the owner
Starting point is 00:37:03 all the way down to the janitor everybody's everybody's gets the same love there's no you don't you you don't show this person this kind of love and and do half an ass job over here because you feel like this you do your shit all the way through and that's why I'll be trying to get them at the club like like this is a team thing so so if the waitresses need the the dudes out the hallway then you move the dudes you don't sit there and be like the back talking to everybody and just letting that all chaos go all over here and the girls got these heavy cherries back hurting carrying them all back and forth like like where's your carrot homie that's that's what I get mad about I'd be like come on man you common sense yeah common sense is always fucking drove me crazy on
Starting point is 00:37:41 people you get the airports you got nine bags of people in front of you stop at the door oh it's a beautiful airport get the fuck out of the way what beautiful airport move there's people behind your move they stop right there they put their bags down it's just uh this society is the worst I feel that anything I've been people online in the world they call them douchebags and people have money or they act weird like we go to that coffee shop over on riverside and cofax where I tell you to stop by there's people who just pull up block other people's cars and get out and get coffee and I go nuts you told me something that you judge people on the little things yeah like that's it and there's nothing to me that infuriates me more especially in a city where track where
Starting point is 00:38:23 parking is is rough than people who just you can tell so much by how they park if they're in two spots with their nice new car and it's it's packed it's dinner time in a restaurant and they just didn't care that someone else isn't gonna be able to park there heck like it kills me it's you have something with parking in front of your house in my neighborhood in fact I saw I saw the Mercedes that was brand new first of all you buy Mercedes and you take the train to work pay for fucking the parking by the train this fool parks by my house so I know the motherfuckers around the corner from me evil and one day this guy bought the car brand new and he took three parking spots and two days later I went out there and he was yelling the guy with the Mercedes somebody scratched my hood
Starting point is 00:39:05 in the side of the door that's the type of neighborhood you live in motherfucker so next time you'll park correctly I went by his car was parked correctly yeah it was parked on the corner he left the space for three people but he had to fucking take that brand new car back and get the door buffed out in the hood yeah he'll park correctly from now on that shouldn't even have to happen that should not have to happen but that's society today and I applaud the guy that scratched his fucking car applaud it do that in your neighborhood you see a guy ain't doing the right thing scratch his fucking car and when he comes out hey man hey wave at him what happened these fucking kids in this neighborhood with the shopping carts they walked by
Starting point is 00:39:46 you said something real interesting before the lawsuit at the store Tommy from A to Z what the fuck happened uh from my understanding uh Paulie I'm talking about the Tommy one when you had to go to bed with him oh the laws are the racist thing oh so I get approached by the lawyer and uh he's like uh the lawyer one of the lawyers of the club so he's like doc we want to talk to you come down to the downtown Beverly Hills and we need to talk and then I was like he's like you know what this is about and I told him yeah first because I kind of figured it about Tommy and then when he walked away I was like wait a minute no because I know Paulie and his brother was going to court about this club so I was like I hope it ain't got nothing
Starting point is 00:40:30 to do with that because I don't know shit about this you know what I'm saying that's between him and Peter you know I'm saying that's family shit so um I went down there and then once I got down there they were he was like man doc we've been knowing I've been knowing you for about six to eight years now why why you never even told us about this with Tommy and then I said well I said well as racist as this dude been I said you I said I figured y'all to find out sooner or later I said but I've been telling everybody else who I need to tell and then he said and then I said I said now you found out now how do you know because I didn't come back I didn't come and snitch on him you know what I'm saying because I mean and then he's like well I don't know Peter called me
Starting point is 00:41:08 and then he told me don't talk to nobody but you first and that you was the dude to talk to and he said so what's what's the deal he's like what's going on and I said well I said what you didn't heard he said well I we've heard some things but do you have anything you saw or seen him do I said no there's nothing he's that he said directly to me everything's been done indirectly and I said but it's through all the people that he's associated with and feel it affiliated with all the other comics with deception of those who was getting spots and didn't want to reveal it to me but even those who was revealed were getting spots was revealing it to me like Rick Ingram you had some real dudes that were just like look man this how this dude is this is what this dude
Starting point is 00:41:43 been saying and that's how I started finding out and then the story started coming from the waitresses to everybody all the white waitresses just just tons of people story after story so he asked me you say man what what name something that happened so uh like he was talking about early with the calling it stood the black girls it was two of them what's your comedian no it was this is what happened I came in on a Saturday employee come tell me what happened he's like amen this happened Friday the last night I go what because I wasn't there that Friday night and then the comedians came later and then they verified the story and they said the same thing and I'm like wow so this is what happened two girls came to the show they was from the hood you know at that time Tommy
Starting point is 00:42:27 whitened the show so much that nobody really couldn't enjoy the shows except white America or people that was more involved in white culture you know what I'm saying so they watched the show they start getting bored with the show so they start heckling so which is which is you know any club policy that you heckled you gotta leave simple so as they was leaving out uh some of the comics were standing right there on the or starts they were you know how everybody leaned up against the pictures and they all talked back and forth right there so someone was standing there and then you know at that time it's still kind of popping in on the patio stay at the girls and making so much noise I guess some people kind of leaned in and look like what's going on and the girls was coming out like
Starting point is 00:43:04 it was cussing cussing at everybody like fuck y'all we not coming back here y'all can keep this corny ass comedy play blah blah and all this and as they got down the stairs and they got ready to give go out the door they say Tommy leaned at the out the booth and yelled at the girls that's why you fucking niggas don't belong out here you need to stay with the fuck you belong so instead of the girls realizing that they had a lawsuit because they could have just took the witnesses everybody's numbers and say hey y'all saw what happened but and then witness did a lawsuit they just ran back up the stairs cussed them out and then left so like I told them that story and I told them about one of the one of the waitress came to me another story about one of the waitresses I was talking
Starting point is 00:43:40 to her and then she was like you won't believe what Tommy did and I go what and then she goes well I went up there you know how like the waitresses when they won't change they run up to that big that big window in the or but if the cashier is up talking to a customer or a comics right there at the little window sometimes they'll just run around there and interrupt if it's a if it's a comic they talk to but if not they'll just stand behind a customer and wait but in this particular case she didn't she just grabbed a rope and just like waited on the side so Tommy couldn't see her over here waiting so a white customer come in he walked up to her walk up to him and he says hey I'm gonna be on vacation for this week uh and I came here uh Tuesday to come
Starting point is 00:44:27 check out the show and he's saying your show was really good on Tuesday and he say is it is this is it just gonna be as good as the show that you had on Tuesday and then Tommy's like hey all our shows are good what are you talking about he's like yeah he was like are you gonna have some of those same comics too because I was over in that big room those guys was really funny and she said what I'm missing to be he looked at the customer and said what you went to the fucking nigger show our show is funnier than a fucking nigger show she said the customer the customer back back and was like what the fuck and he got awkward and she said she looked at her and she said she was standing there like oh my god like what the fuck and then I asked her I was like was he oh dude she was like
Starting point is 00:45:02 yeah he was like in his mid 40s and I was like what he looked like a bum or something she was like no he's just like he could have been a diplomat or something and he's just like he don't even know who the fuck this guy was he just threw that shit out there and I go holy shit and then I was like all right man and so like we got into it was because one of the comics came back and told me they was like man doc man I was talking to Tommy and he's and man he started getting really upset I said man calm down I was like tell me what's wrong tell me what he said and he was like man well Tommy said he hated you and missy hates you and the only reason that she keeps you here is because you show up for your shift and how he don't like niggers and niggers in an interracial date
Starting point is 00:45:38 and he said that uh yeah man just so dude just so this is like so then so then he's upset because his his aunt is married to a black man so see he's flipping off and I'm like calm down I was like it's cool I'm gonna handle this shit so like after that I just started telling everybody but I gave everybody else a more straight to the point story I didn't give him that I basically said that Tommy was saying this is what Tom he said doc's a nigger he don't like fucking niggers and niggers shit in the interracial because that's what it sounds like to me you know what I'm saying like you know he didn't put my name with nigger but he know goddamn well he might as well have put my name in there how you gonna say that and then follow it with the rest so I was telling everybody
Starting point is 00:46:24 nigger I don't know it not to his face I heard that this is what I heard I heard that uh Paul Mooney kept calling the store for spots and he wasn't getting spots when was the last time you said on Mooney seven years ago right six years ago right after a year after me right and I heard he was calling up there no no he came like a little bit more after like I mean I think five years yeah about four or five years he kept calling for spots or something they even called him back and uh you know how somebody gets to call him they go Tommy it's Paul Mooney he wants to know what's going on and that's when Tommy said tell him we don't do late night nigger shows no more or something like that that's what I had heard and uh I was gonna ask if you thought it might
Starting point is 00:47:17 just be he's like hanging around comedians and trying to make jokes but not now he sounds like he's there was some about listen I like everybody I give everybody a benefit of that and he was always very nice to me as a phone guy once he got power he spoke to me out of place a couple times right and then it all hit the thing that day he called me because he thought I was gonna put a bug in Joe's ear and he was telling me how Carlos keeps going in there and bumping people in Capitol rule was funny and Carlos and I said not for nothing he is the rule no matter even if fucking Benny Hannes on stage throwing knives in the end he's killing if somebody comes in and they have a show on network they bump right they bump they finish and they bump that's how it is he kept arguing
Starting point is 00:48:07 me going no it's not the way it is like I'm gonna argue with you I don't want to fucking argue with you about right and what he was trying to tell you know he didn't like Carlos but he didn't know how to get rid of Carlos right he didn't know how to get rid of Carlos at that point I don't think him and Joe were tight anymore something Joe had seen his true colors so Joe wasn't taking his calls no more who rogan talking Tommy Tommy's oh no you know what they got him to the beef right where where the thing was with Joe and Tommy was the Joe told me when I talked to him he said that uh when they when him and Carlos got into it right right he called in and Tommy told him he was banned and so his beef was he said he had already called Missy and talked to her one on one on the phone
Starting point is 00:48:53 and she just told him hey okay it's fine just stay away from Carlos y'all stay away from each other but then he called in and called in his spots and Tommy's like now are you banned for two weeks and then so he got mad like bitch I talked to Missy I ain't supposed to be banned why the fuck am I answering to you so that was his whole thing was like I shouldn't be answering to this motherfucker like like it was it was ridiculous and which he was right how the fuck how the fuck was Tommy the one to to to relay that message to him you know I'm saying like it that wasn't supposed to be because I guess it was it was handed down from Peter to Dean and then Dean to Tommy and then Tommy has Tommy the one that told him so his thing was was like Joe told me he said if if they had
Starting point is 00:49:33 that fucking idiot running it he's like fucking he wasn't gonna come back up there no more and that was the deal because I was trying to like I wanted him back to come back up there because you know the comedy kind of took a turn to where like I felt it was only once like on like this one style of comic it was going a certain way and it didn't it didn't have its you know what I'm saying that spice to it you know because it was you back in the day was you Sergio love Cap everybody are we all these different it was so different you know I'm saying Joe Rogan Eddie Griffin was still popping in doing a lot of time he got ready to he got ready yeah he got him band you know I don't know if he got him band per se uh Eddie I mean Eddie's no fucking angel
Starting point is 00:50:14 but here's the thing though Tommy never had the power to ban that's what people were were wrong you know I'm saying like the only way he could ban was through permission of Dean or or Peter or Peter now what is Dean leave Dean left in 2011 September because he wanted to uh he wanted to go work in Hawaii with his with his boy with some some company that they started but then he moved up north and he started doing something up north so then uh he's been up there ever since you know um so he just I just feel like Dean kind of was like everybody was fighting at that time and Dean kind of was like man I'm gonna write my hands of this you know what I'm saying so Dean thing it wasn't comedy anymore it became something else yeah it was like yeah it was
Starting point is 00:51:00 like this it had this bad cloud like this negative energy man it was horrible man like dog like the brothers was fighting you know what I'm saying and then you had Tommy being the way he was so there was no real structure of power the comics was getting into it there was this he say she say Tommy was gossiping and spreading rumors and lying it was so fucking chaotic like there was no real structure and that's why I was trying to get people to understand like like like like bitches who don't who don't who who who who who don't have that kind of discipline they fall in line with somebody like him because they they they that's all they know is bullshit so like a lot of the people that were full of bullshit kind of rolled away with him but then the flip side of to it is
Starting point is 00:51:42 like like you say take a cup of real on them they were about doing their comedy you know what I'm saying so them becoming who they were was mainly because this is the thing that Tommy is feeding these young guys you know I'm saying he had a disrespect for the guys like you guys you know like perfect example this was maybe about a year or so ago Chris Rock came in right no you heard the name I just said Chris Rock asked asked first of all out of respectful can I do 40 minutes Tommy say well it's 930 it's too early you can wait an hour and go up later after Rick Ingram and he or you can do 20 minutes but you have to wait until Whitney Cummings until Whitney Cummings go up because these people here for her so Whitney flipped Whitney go what she goes no no no she goes
Starting point is 00:52:34 no you know no Chris you're supposed to go first like you're supposed to go up when you're supposed to go she goes no and Chris is like no I can wait she goes no no no you go up and she said not only do you go up you do as much time as you want she said it doesn't matter you're supposed to like that so I was like damn Whitney real so then I walk out later on after Chris get up he leaves because Chris wound up going up and he wound up doing like 35 40 anyway so like I talked to Rick Ingram and Rick Ingram Rick Ingram was sitting right there and he said Whitney came and sat down right next to him while Chris was on stage and then so he said that Whitney turned to him and was like Tommy been not turned on this goddamn light on Chris so then Rick said he looked at her and
Starting point is 00:53:19 he was like shit are you kidding me he said not only gonna turn on the light he gonna turn it on in 15 minutes and he said like right after that 16 minutes boom light comes on Whitney grabs him like what the fuck is he doing like what is he what is he doing and like and I'm like yeah he had a disrespect for the game to the to the utmost and and and that type of behavior was taught to these other guys you know what I'm saying like like I know Tony Yawboy but Tony he's he's on Tony's that motherfuckers on some other shit you know what I'm saying I love Tony I love Tony Tony Hicks is a dear friend of mine I love him but I know that he was blowing smoke up Tony's ass right right I do know that and I heard that but he was blowing smoke up everybody's ass right
Starting point is 00:54:02 because was he not claiming Jerrod Carmichael though after the racist shit came out right right he started claiming Jerrod Carmichael but that's the thing he started saying that Jerrod he developed Jerrod it was him that developed Jerrod see I wasn't there but I'm telling you what he was telling people go talk to them and go ask any of them dudes when it came to open mic I was doing the list them dudes was getting up because of me not only that when they were coming in Eleanor was hosting that live back then Eleanor was putting Jerrada Tommy wouldn't even he wouldn't even show him no love you know Tommy tried to get out of the racist stuff right and what are you guys talking about first I'm the one that developed Jerrod I don't just develop see that's what it's not real I was there
Starting point is 00:54:40 I'm there oh I know yeah I know right after that Jerrod got passed go find out what month Jerrod got passed and I'll tell you right now what month we I went it was either the day right at the end of July or the beginning of August when I went in for the for the investigation of 2010 so anything after that if you ask any of them and who got passed and you see the time that they got passed the hire then you know you know I'm saying like like uh I was told about one of the comics he was like man doc he's like he pulled me to the side he's like man did anybody anybody ever come say thank you to you anything and I was like nah I'll say for what he said because they need to man he's like all these dudes is up in here because of you and he's like that they should at least say something
Starting point is 00:55:20 and only one comic did he went on Twitter and he said something but I didn't acknowledge it because it was like you know that's not why I did you know what I'm saying like I took the bullet and because of that I love man you're talking about agents producers Tommy kept me from everything everything wouldn't give me no spots in La Jolla nothing out of that out of the eight years that I was nine years that I was there at the store before he got fired 10 years that I was there at the store before he got fired no no this would be my 10th year coming up or 11th year this would be my 10th year coming up to nine years I was there I only had got sent down to La Jolla three times you know what I'm saying like he hated me but it was cool to me because my thing was like
Starting point is 00:56:00 you can't stop me if I'm gonna be good you know what I'm saying and so like it just was so ugly at the club because he had these young guys and he was pushing these young guys and pushing so he was ignoring like all of us he told Felicia Michaels she was too old yeah because he said comedies for 35 and under yeah he told her he heard her he killed her with that yeah yeah so that's why I was like you know it became like crazy and then you know you had people like like like all these young guys uh they were getting help like from Matt Edgar to Tony was hooking up with Jeff Rodney and everybody was getting this help but it's like yeah they ain't done shit you know what I'm saying like they were getting the treatment like they were doing shit we're missing it wasn't like that
Starting point is 00:56:46 it was like I'm gonna help you grow but it wasn't no no putting these people on a pedestal and trying to get them to rot you know what I'm saying so it was like like these young kids got these eagles around there so like I was constantly like checking checking people because me man I don't give a fuck who you who you with you I'm from you you if you you could be with the Bloods of the Crips you could be with whoever MMA niggas whoever you got well I'm from we don't we don't we don't that don't matter to us you know what I'm saying you get slapped just like the next guy and if you put my hands on if you put your hands on me and if I hit rock bottom in my heart and I feel that way I'm coming there ain't nothing to do to stop that so to me I didn't have I there was no filter
Starting point is 00:57:33 I mean it should have been at some point because sometimes I got a little bit out of hand but my thing was was like you can't you can hide behind whoever you want in Hollywood but you ain't never safe and and and you y'all need to y'all need to understand that that is real out here and that any moment you can get it any moment that's anywhere I listen you're preaching to the choir you knew that I had my proms up there I did great up you know I went back in August right it's the best thing I've ever done Leo tell you it's the best thing I've ever done for my comedy I needed a joke I needed to to run with people I see the change right I feel the love now yeah but I also know I've also been the guy that you've grown up in my house when my mother
Starting point is 00:58:20 adults would come over sometimes adults want to talk to my mother and I stepped down about something I was supposed to one thing I always took pride in that nobody ever had asked me to leave the room right you know what I'm saying and that's why I left the store and I would always get reports of the store because at the end of the week I'm a marine the store are the marines the lab factory yeah whatever they're the fucking peace corps you know the improv that's the motherfucking boy scouts right the comedy store are the marines Joey how can you say this Richard Pryle I just saw a picture on the website of Richard Pryle Paul Rodriguez and Sam Kennes and talking okay those are marines in my world of comedy so when Mitzi passed me I became a fucking
Starting point is 00:59:03 marine of comedy and I lived it that was who I am in my heart and because that Mitzi sure has told how many motherfuckers to go fuck themselves in their career a lot that motherfucker told the motherfucker to go fuck himself he jumped off the building look at Louie CK did you hear what he said yeah he was like she was like nah nah she didn't fuck around if she didn't feel it she didn't give a fuck what Holly would say that's why I come in that's the same school I thought I got passed because of Eddie Griffin a lot of people I got passed I was ready for the store from the day I got on stage people kept saying to me has Mitzi sure seen you yet you're her that's it it's I walked in three she gave me ten I got off start calling for spots tomorrow I got here January 29th I was a
Starting point is 00:59:44 regular February 15th not even a month it took me to become a regular and she always gave me six seven spots a week there and now I got I go back to the store and you see me bro I go I don't even go into the bar area right sometimes I go with Lee and I get him his favorite diet coke with uh what is it great co-makers and co-makers and coke okay but besides I don't even go back to I don't mingle I don't go there and hang out there I do my spot you know why because I'm 52 right kind of years for 35 year olds okay if you follow me in my heart I've always known this but I go down there drop some fucking love and I get the fuck out of there right like a bullet in the fucking night right because I know I don't belong there no more and I know when I was young and I go and I'd see
Starting point is 01:00:24 old guys they go what the fuck are these creepy motherfuckers doing here at night waiting for a handout or shit he gives me if I call in for six spots he gives me two and you know what I'm very satisfied right I am so satisfied doc because Mitzi gave me say I'm gonna call back and say Adam you didn't give me six but what are you fucking crazy right I'm an old man all I need is two I don't need six fucking spots there all week right I know where I am when I'm there I show the utmost respect that's my motherfucking house that's my motherfucking comedy house I don't do before but any comedy club in the country that's my house right everybody's always known that so now that I'm back there I see the difference but I heard it was horrible yeah he was putting people
Starting point is 01:01:06 against people he was putting comics against comics he thought he was doing what Mitzi was doing like if Mitzi finds out that Dr. Mi had an argument she'll make doc follow me for a month yeah that's what Mitzi will do she'll make me hand the mic to him for a month make me learn again but you know he was doing it stupidly like a fucking redneck that he was a dumb fucking redneck that he was because that's all he was right at the end of the fucking week that's why I couldn't listen to him anymore he was trying to tell me my business I've been on Greyhound buses I've done comedy in Buffalo Iowa I've done comedy in all these rooms where they look at me in the bible belt where I'm hated you know I'm hated in the bible belt and they just throw holy water at me and shit and you're
Starting point is 01:01:47 gonna come tell me my job that's not gonna happen come talk to me about my job and we'll find an even ground right but don't I wouldn't ever go to a plum and go whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa did you put some teflon on that motherfucker and use copper that's not my game that's something somebody told me at the farmers market right and I'm repeating like a fucking jerk off no I would never tell someone I would talk to them about that game and learn something offer a suggestion they go no okay right I always thought that would work you know what I'm saying right right doc I think I know Joey's answer but who were worst people to be around comedians no no comedians or like people who are in gangs and criminals and like which would you rather spend
Starting point is 01:02:30 your time with I would rather it depends if it's uh I would rather be around comics you know why you want to be around gangs and criminals well not like not we're talking about from a loyalty standard from waking up from like a friend knowing that if you call me at three in the morning I picked you up in the fucking car right I know where I stand when I'm when it comes to the gangs though that's a friendship that that that friendship would kind of fuck you up as a person because uh you have people that willing to die for you and people that I've had people do stuff to people and I didn't even tell them to do it they just heard something happen to me and then they took it upon themselves and went and did it you know what I'm saying and I get the phone call and I'm like
Starting point is 01:03:13 man I you shouldn't have done that man you know I didn't tell you dog you're my dog that's exactly what they told me that's the school of thought I'm from right right that's how I grew up you basically had a gang but not like and that's why I have a hard time with society after I left New Jersey because I was raised different I was raised in a society where if I got up and went somewhere and some mother fucker sat there oh that's my dog's chair dog get up and that's his lady don't say two words I'll bash your fucking skull with this bottle they had your back so when you've had that treatment before and then you don't have it and then you start running with people that you know I told the story thousand after story one night I did some blowdown there with some cats
Starting point is 01:03:51 I bought 520s off a chewy 620s for a hundred he'd give you right and I and the people that were supposed to come get it never came so it's one in the morning I got six fucking packages so I somebody asked me man I'm tired can I get a bump I gave him a bump and I go ahead take the rest of the package a week later he goes to a meeting one of my boys in the meeting they go who do you want for this role they say Joey D is that dude said that coke fiend I just gave you a package okay so that sell out man still to this day 10 years later nothing bothers me more than Joe Rogan thing nothing that's why I stayed out of the store just to show him right that I had him bothered me more that Friday night when I heard that they were all gonna pick at the store right
Starting point is 01:04:33 and then Mitzi called him and said whoever pickets gets no more spots and not one guy showed up after that I had no business at the store it took me seven years to get over that feeling right it took me seven years to I was hurt I was hurt for him but then after a while I had to go take care of what I had to take care of those guys a lot of those people are gone today some of them are still around right 60 percent of them are still around yeah but now I know what the store is about right and I appreciate that you're there you know I appreciate the little I was telling uh Ari on his park podcast I heard you fear and uh I was saying telling him I said what kept me there at the store was two things one was I had to I had to because if if if I if I didn't things wouldn't
Starting point is 01:05:21 have got done the way they would they needed to be done and then the second thing was it was like I said man there's nothing that's why people always worked a lot I said people don't get it I'm the first dude that greets y'all I'm the first dude to see your face at the club I'm the first dude and I said for me that that that exchange that emotional exchange is priceless to see when you first popped in uncle Joe man shit man I'm telling boy when you came back I said man I'm telling I was about ready to cry that's how happy it was this is my nigga right here this dude is real peeps he's always been you've you've reached out to me more than I've ever reached out to you that's how real you are you would always be like doc you ain't calling me you motherfucker calling
Starting point is 01:06:02 I'm just like like Joe I'll be fucking up I'm sorry dog young guys with my life because I know that you young guys are going to take care of me if I take care of you yeah nobody remembers nothing more like Stevens Alson Stevens he doesn't go to the store they threw him out of there too all right but he was a producer on Arles he came to the store one night he hired me I called him for Christmas I called him for all the Jew holidays you know why Alan Stevens because he gave me that job he gave me one of the biggest breaks in my life did it go anywhere no but I learned to do two lines opposite James Colburn right that's what he gave me I can't forget that right so when I talked to one of these young guys and I talked to that's what helps my game that helps my game
Starting point is 01:06:46 and I take a guy that's been doing comedy six years and I grab him by the arm and I go that bit you did bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop he's gonna go home his head's gonna explode right right and you know and I try to do that I try to give the young guys love because say what you want I got a lot of love coming up and a lot of people were hating me but they didn't like that I was dirty or I tried to follow me to the pussy joke but there was motherfuckers that were hey come in I really dig what you're doing I like the heart and I judge people on heart that's one of my weaknesses I don't judge people on your car or your money or anything else I judge motherfuckers on a heart jack that's that's the cold hard truth now back to Detroit
Starting point is 01:07:25 not to throw you off the store okay before you came out here you were still gang banging no no no I stopped gang banging when I was like about 17 my mom's my mom's she made me move with like I had got locked up in juvenile now you know I failed school so I was like the streets is all I knew and when she found out that I was still selling drugs she she made me move with my eye and then she she she told me that I could make it and that if I just try she'd do whatever she can to to make to help me succeed and then she started crying you know I'm saying and my mom's gonna cry so when she started crying as a teenage boy and that's your mama I'm the only son I just was like I didn't really want to do it because I didn't believe in myself but her love was enough for me to go
Starting point is 01:08:16 all right I tried and she was right man I went to graduate that next year went to school that summer went to summer school and that next year went to to took her like one to seven one to eight took a bunch of classes boom graduated on time it was crazy it was rough but she was right so like because of that I just stayed out of the mix all right and then when I graduated from school I was still slanging dope though she didn't know you know what I'm saying because the the guys that when she sent me back when she sent me to go to school I was going to elementary and part of my middle school with these guys and my mom took me from over there because I was acting up over there to bring me over there with her but then I got caught up with the drug getting guys over there
Starting point is 01:08:58 so when she sent me back over here these guys now a lot of them was king pins and slanging you know what I'm saying it's like okay I just started having guys selling dope for me but I never forget it man she called me after I graduated from school and it was after my father high school yeah my graduate from so you went back to high school after you quit yeah because uh my mom was like that was that was the I mean I went immediately like it was that summer she moved made me move on my aunt then I went to school right right to school like it was immediate like everything was quick and I went like the moment she made me move with her I started right up in summer school right into regular then regular uh semester came then I went to school and I graduated then when I graduated
Starting point is 01:09:40 about two months later my father killed himself right and then like I uh my mom's called me like two weeks after after like a week after his funeral and she said I know this is a hard time in your life and she said but all I'm gonna do is just I'm gonna tell you where I am with you she said you're 17 now you're about to be 18 and she said now you made it through school I told you you can do it and you can do anything you want to do she said so I can't tell you what to do anymore because you're a grown man and that's how I'm gonna leave it she said but I am gonna tell you this she said a man does either two things he either works honestly and takes care of himself or he goes to school gets out and works honestly and takes care of himself she said but
Starting point is 01:10:33 either way a real man works honestly so I want you to think about that she said if you want to go back to college that's what I want you to do if you want not back to college you want to start college I'll help you just just try just let me know what you want to do and I hung up the phone and it made sense you know I'm saying like I don't know it just was like so I thought and I said you know next day I thought about it some more and I called all the young cats and all the dudes that owe me dope and money I called them up I go hey y'all you know it keep the dope keep the money that's like no man what are you doing man what no man I'm gonna pay you back no no I don't don't even pay me back and I said man if you can try to get out yourself I said I'm done
Starting point is 01:11:13 and I said use that money for whatever man I don't know I said but I would say if I was you I would just drop it man I'm trying to make my life better so I went to college and then I stayed on the right path but I got kicked out of college because for shooting you know shooting at some dudes on campus but anyway it's just like what college were you at Eastern Michigan University no shit yeah man it was a big deal man I was like my bill was half a million it was gross yeah man I had no 10% man I'm telling you man like like I still and that's why I love hit this the third you know what there's a third thing about the comedy store this is the greatest thing about working at the
Starting point is 01:11:53 comedy store too is doing that whole process I had to like mentally like wipe myself clean mentally because I went through like a depression and all this other stuff so when I came out here and I discovered I really wanted to try to do comedy and I started working at the store because Dean wound up making me work at the store like I didn't even want to work there but he kind of set it up and then like he set me up twice to work there and he didn't pay me and I was like man no I said you I said you're not gonna be having me work here and then you're not gonna pay me it's like that's what we be trying to do we be trying to get you to work here for the longest welcome to the club and I'm like okay cool you know I wasn't like cool I was a little upset at first and I
Starting point is 01:12:32 just called my mom I was like I don't want to work there and she was like nah you she said just try you know you never know and shit ever since I've been there but you and Ian Edwards is like one of my main friends because it's so funny I'll get mad or I'll say something and then he'll be like doc that's street shit you can't handle it like that that's not he'd be like yeah he said he said you talked about street shit he said don't he said that's not the way that you gotta and so he helps me and it's a lot of other people they help me and it's not like I'm like this like Billy the kid and no shit like that but it's just like like you like I say Hollywood is filled a lot of fake people and it's got some real people sprinkled in there you know I'm saying it ain't
Starting point is 01:13:16 it ain't full of all bad people no it's not right and so by me being there it helped me to a point especially the story and like you said you know you come through Lee and it's dealing with those attitudes and those personalities and then dealing with Tommy and then I had let Tommy affect me to where I was like extra mean to these guys Tony and them and they didn't know no better they these young dudes they younger than me but I was so mad at the racism and all this stuff and then these young guys with these attitudes that I started being a little bit too ugly you know what I mean so like I feel like the story that was one that was a chapter in my life that had to be written you know what I'm saying like I had to I had to to learn that that to that my way ain't always the
Starting point is 01:14:04 right way and and you gotta learn how to love people and sometimes you gotta love people even when they ain't good because it's the only way that's the only way you're gonna make things better if you got two people that just constantly warrant but you know what do you have and what do you have if you just loving the same person that's loving you know what I'm saying so I've been trying to learn how to just not not try to learn but just loving people despite you know what I'm saying because even Tommy I pulled Tommy to the side y'all one-on-one then if I'm lying go ask him you know what I'm saying I pulled him in the main room and I told him I said listen I see all this I said for these past few years you're going around you've been telling everybody how much you
Starting point is 01:14:47 hate me and I said you know that's pretty fucked up I said because you can go ask any comment out of all the shit you didn't do and all the shit you said about me I ain't ever told one of my hate you can go right now go ask any comment any comments that know that yeah I talk shit about them all the time because he was wrong you know what I'm saying they didn't want to hear because I was spitting the truth out but that was fine with me I would take the bullet you know what I'm saying and then when I say that to him he just put his head down and I just walked out but I had to tell him because my thing was was like like it was times even after that when he was hungry something I gave him cookies and some of my food man like hey dog I know you hungry eat you know
Starting point is 01:15:26 we all got to eat you know what I'm saying like eat they like okay you got your shit you got your issue but if you're hungry I'm a feature you know what I'm saying I ain't got time to be sit up here casting you down and what what what good what a good am I you know what I mean so like I tried to be the best I could be and you know I slipped and I have issues that I still work on but you know I'm fucking you know I asked you a question was there has the store been a journey for you man tremendous a tremendous journey I'm gonna tell you something right now in front of Lee and you when I die I want you guys to fucking go smoke a joint I mean the store I can't tell you what the store has been for me when people say to me well you turned your life
Starting point is 01:16:13 around no the store turned my life around Rogan once said that when this is all over said and done we're gonna find out that the store was like a beam of light from like Mars or something where the store is like if that was a shoe store or a restaurant it would have had the same effect on you the store I'm complete my set at the store is completely different than my set anywhere else in the country do you know why because I have more confidence at the company store in the original room than any other room in the country that is my room I've done from 97 to 2005 that hundred thousands of sets in and all different situations when they were drinking they weren't drinking and you find out about yourself when you're on that stage that is where my guts came
Starting point is 01:17:07 out because that is where I realized following Paul Mooney and dying that if I sit here at nine o'clock by 1130 if the people are still here since nine o'clock they've already heard every joke they've heard every genre every topical joke every what's topical this week I don't know the Oscars it would have been if there's six jokes comics would have been on for them when they're talking about the Oscars right right so when you go up at midnight I figured this out one day I'm like coked out delusion mind they don't want to hear nothing and I would go up there following Mooney there'd be eight people if you think they're gonna wait for the p-joke or for the setup or whatever they're not gonna wait for it so you just got to go out there and improvise that's why he plays the
Starting point is 01:17:48 piano and music when I go on stage because he knew I could just fucking run with it but while I was doing all that stupid improvising and dancing and taking my balls out and fucking around I found Joey Diaz's voice I found out who the fuck I was yeah that was called to my baby and I go if it wasn't for the comedy store I wouldn't have this baby I met Terry at the fucking store she was a waitress at the store my wife are you fucking crazy this baby this baby is from the comedy store so the comedy store has been in my life right now for 18 fucking years I'm 52 right so that's a third of my life it seems kind of like a high school I was thinking about it earlier when you talk about like the laugh factor and the improv it's people who work there
Starting point is 01:18:36 but like you guys it's like high school or summer camp with like you guys have friends and stories from previous years I still talked to the first talent coordinator at the comedy store a man by the name of Scott Day that was brought in there by Louis Anderson's buddy from Minneapolis and he loved comedy he was the only talent coordinator that would sit there with you till two right and watch the shows you'd fucking be scared to go up in front of mitzi but you'd be scared more scared to go up in front of him but he would help you he would talk to you he would laugh he would hang out with managers at night you know and then he was replaced by Danny Kelly Danny Kelly was the one that it went right through his head that's the motherfucker that they would
Starting point is 01:19:17 call up and say hi we're coming to see doctor night from uh we're from Paramount we'd like to come see doc is there a 930 spot yes there is right and he would put himself up at 930 so they would see him then they'd follow him to see you mitzi found out fire at him princess quarry came along right she was good princess quarry was fucked and after princess quarry it was Duncan right then Duncan quit because of the reality show right and then Tommy came along and I knew by the time Tommy was in there a year in he would call me and just tell me about all his ego and all his conquests not in love but all his conquests at the store like I think that this guy's gonna be the next big thing and all this and I would just sit there and go you've been here for two years who are you to even
Starting point is 01:20:02 say this kind of statements you know he was being dishonest with himself yeah no he was he was so I'm really happy that he they called me when he left I'm really happy that I'm there twice a week if I can right just to see the young guys and go up there and I just lose my mind I get right back in the car and I fucking leave I've been blessed man it's just been great to have you guys back because I felt like like the other guys they not even near ready you know and they don't have they don't have that that facade that their power that y'all have yet meaning like they they're only they have a glimpse of of of what you guys have already become in art so like I feel like when you guys got taken away they didn't they didn't have nothing else to feed off of so these guys
Starting point is 01:20:52 kind of molded into these things that that that they that they never got a really chance to become pab bangers you know and and because of that it weakened the store so like you found Adam having like scramble and gather y'all like and we needed your ideas back we needed your organs back we need the our magicals because that was needed you needed that that that that power there so that that people can look up and go oh this is what comedy is okay because he had so many young guys up there and they were so yeah it was the same material same type of stuff and there was really no no real power in what they do like like that's that's the thing like we miss these club that I learned like the reason we feel the way about the club is just because man she really
Starting point is 01:21:42 loved us because she loved the game of comedy she loved comedy she was married to a comedian she had raised a son that became a star comedian she was the truth like when it come to comedy that woman was the truth I don't know about the other arm but with her yeah it was employees all day every day yeah and when I remember when our first came she was like fire him he's horrible they were like we're not gonna get rid of you she'd do that all the time I'm just like and then she went from that to Tommy even told me she said he said that she said once she the last time she saw me she said I see why he's here he's very truthful and that's when he didn't know nothing he was like I don't know what that means Doug maybe that means maybe you should start you know doing more truthful
Starting point is 01:22:25 stuff I said I've been doing it I know exactly what she's talking about so I'll keep doing what I'm doing and like unfortunately for me that's when she tapered off and I never really she never really got to see me again because Tommy wouldn't he hated me he would never put me up when she would come around you know I'm saying so I was only time I could see mom is when when Paulie would when she would come up there with with with with Alford her driver her caretaker or Paulie would take me over there to their house to go do something with him and then he'll be like oh say hi to mom or whatever you know but um that that love though that she established in that place that's something that that that that you can't duplicate there the the realness in that like she had she the kind
Starting point is 01:23:09 of love she had is the same type of love that we have as comedians to do comedy and that's raw that's rare and because she loved it that much she had every level dude employees on the doors non paid regulars who wasn't good enough yet to be moved into as a paid regular so she had three levels and you can see the level it was like what most clubs just got they star bangers but in her club you could see any given night you can go and see these different levels of comics and and she grew and she cultivated them and and and they became these awesome like like like it's it's it's so it was such a great process that's it man you can't touch it you that that discipline that that ability to sit there and watch comic after comic go up in the
Starting point is 01:23:54 belly room see what the comic doing come back down put them in the showcase see how they doing move them back to the non paid regulars put them up okay you you're good enough you think you're that good you go behind joe ds tam triply you gotta follow joe ds tonight or or you gotta go behind this guy you got she had that mental she knew that game and then at the same time she was slam you but then at the same time she was show love okay let me let me show them that i'm cool that it's it's okay and and and that was the beauty of her the art form of what she did to me like people got what they're gonna say about her she had her flaws but everybody got flaws you know what i'm saying but when it comes to this shit man she man hands down to me that love is
Starting point is 01:24:35 there forever and i will always have a love for her i feel it when i go down there come on man listen man uh i had nothing you know i'm a criminal and became a comic where i had good people around me but listen at the end of the day i don't know nothing about the longest you are and and the narrow movies or tv shows or marron i know one thing that she looked at me and made me a regular there and that to me that means everything in the world there was no tape i was there she came i went in there twice showcased for her kicked ass and she made me a regular and you can't take that from me anytime ever that that beats everything that beats evening at the improv that beats hbo because she's passed more fucking great comics than hbo has had specials right so let me give
Starting point is 01:25:27 some shout outs and we'll continue with this all right put my fucking glasses on uh big j hill i love you cocksucker benny the baker down australia stay black tommy terinova who's better than you thank you very much for the gift card my wife took it uh rock my strangelo you know i love you justin evans the stoic network alberto hymenes and dead squad m ufc you bad motherfuckers check yourself before you wreck yourself all right lee another star what how many before these oh my god i'm about to see a diablo red do it you these got you floating oh god look at your eyes red how old were you when you started gangbanger i would say about 13 but you were exposed to it since you were nine yeah like i was well the thing was was my mom made me move my mom moved over
Starting point is 01:26:21 there like when i was in this is in detroit yeah this is where in detroit this is not there born with those white no no no no no no in detroit yeah this is detroit this is this is that's downtown yeah yeah uh but i lived on uh the southwest side not the southwest northwest side of detroit for a while then i was on the east side of detroit so like uh um you you're familiar with streets over there in the denadine well you know if you see in the movie eight mile right that's the last street i left off uh basically where eight miles is where people don't know what eight mile separates the whites from the blacks when you cross over eight mile and you go further out it gets wider and wider and wider i was gonna ask you that as a joke i was gonna ask you if you
Starting point is 01:27:06 lived on eight mile back and when i was like now there's more black people who live on on a on a suburban cities on the other side of eight mile now oak park southfield worn there are few sprinkled up and worn and stuff like that but when you were back in that day when i was coming up like we used to have to go to the dollar short store dollar show over in the white neighborhood you know i'm saying so it's on the other side of eight mile on nine mile so like uh me and my boy went i was probably about 10 years old we going no we're about 11 we going to the dollar store i mean we're going to dollar show because we skip school you know that's how we do it so we go and we come back and we're close to eight mile and these guys they drive up onto the curb on the sidewalk
Starting point is 01:27:51 and starts chasing us in the car these white guys and they start throwing bottles at us and they like you know on the other side of eight mile you niggers and this and that and and like i grew like i was kind of poor as a kid so like i was scared and i was upset about that but then also was kind of like upset because they wasted all them bottles you know what i'm saying like they could have just rolled up to me gave me them bag bottles and said you never and then pulled off and i was like fuck you i'm gonna go get some penny candy you know say with these bottles but it was just like i was like mad as a kid and i didn't understand that and at that time as as a 10 or 11 year old you don't even really know what the word nigga was so i didn't even know i just remember
Starting point is 01:28:29 them yelling it kept yelling it as they were chasing us in the car you know what i'm saying so that that's how bad it was but now it's it's changed a little bit on the outskirts but the more out you go the more white it gets it gets real it's like you rarely see a black man was it Crips and Bloods then was it Crips and Bloods we don't know Crips and Bloods they tried to start for a minute but then you know because Detroit's the streets you ever watched gangland with the best friends well if you ever watched that yeah that's a show on spike no national it was on it was on history channel history yeah so you could actually watch it on youtube if you type in uh or or watch it on netflix look up the best friends episode the best friends was when you see them that's the core
Starting point is 01:29:10 of what most guys are in Detroit except the only difference is with the best friends they were just all hit me so it's eight dudes they started off i think i heard about them yeah they were they was voted like from what i heard i i didn't see it but i heard they were voted the number one of the most notorious out of all of my fears out of everybody the Mexican everybody because they had this thing man like when i was in a gang they were my gang pulled me one one of the guys of my gang rest of the rest of the piece but he he uh he said listen if you ever hear these guys over in this area he say they're not over here just just to be messing around they over here to kill one of us so most no if you ever see it or you hear say you kill these guys and i was like wow
Starting point is 01:29:54 really and they were like yeah man they said these dudes is and then i'm like 13 years old you see and they're telling me i'm like but these guys had a reputation because they just murdered in cold blood like they think was they had this thing called rock you to sleep and what it was was they would follow you around for two three years after they they got into it with you and they would let you live your life so you can get married have a kid or whatever then they'll call ahead they go okay now it's time and then boom it's just like who does that who follows somebody around for two three years and then takes them out i can see joey doing it right so like like it was kind of it was it was it was it's different like like the gangs in Detroit now that they like this little bit shit
Starting point is 01:30:37 but back then it was just getting money so like we ran this area right at least most of the guys in my gang some guys was like bitches trying to be part of the gang because they just bitches need to help i got into the gang because i just needed some money and i needed some money and crack was the way for me so i never really wanted to be part of the gang but what happened was other gangs start running up on me because they would see me with them now the flip side of two it is my great grandmother stayed across the bridge on the other side and i will have to go over there so i kind of grew up with the gangs over there too so we i had kind of a peace with them but all of them was worn against each other so it was like they were like we cool man longest you know you we know
Starting point is 01:31:20 you with them and blah blah blah and i was like but really i just was a drug you know i'm saying sold crack that's all crack now you ever process it did you go into a kitchen cook it up yeah yeah the microwave that's how you do it in the microwave yeah if because i wasn't moving weight then at that point i ain't have a key so like you know you you get like a eight ball of powder or could you do the whole eight ball at one time yeah i would always do like a gram of the time that's why you wouldn't lose no temps that's why you're doing it like that no for my own head no for your own so i would take good blow or shit that i would take like coke that tasted bad like they made a mistake with in the late 80s no in the late 80s the tough thing wasn't getting coke out
Starting point is 01:32:02 of columbia was getting the the cleaner in so they ran out of stepping on it all the way to from there all the way up north no no they ran out of ether alcohol yeah so they started using like bleaches and shit so you do the coke yeah it tasted weird so what what they figured out was take down those mistakes but it would when you put in the microwave it would burn the impurities with the baking soda and then when you smoke it still tastes like coke you don't taste the ammonia or the cat piss right they had all these flavors that were horrific i got stuck with like i don't know a lot of cat piss and i would cut it and it was still cat pissy but it was tremendous it was stronger than that it was just fucking it gave you a headache after fucking three or four lines you
Starting point is 01:32:48 couldn't tolerate no more i'll tell you at four in the morning anybody snorted who gave it i blow up was uh was uh benzo benzo peroxide so how do you do with benzo peroxide you put it in where you say the same thing same process you put it in with uh you mix it in with the with the cocaine and come kind of pasty and then when you add a little bit of baking soda to it to give it to dry it up a little bit and then once you you have once you have it in the water and you heat it up it starts you know it turns into that gel and then you take it out then you run a little bit of cold tap water in there you know you shift it a little bit and then that's how you collect all your tins yeah it hard enough you know what i'm saying so
Starting point is 01:33:28 that's that's basically it so that helped you blow your dope up so like a lot of guys was doing that but i'd never i'd never fuck with no cut all my shit was always pure because my thing was was like if it's good they're gonna come back exactly why are you cutting it for i'm the same way i'd even knock five hours old it got to a 45 so i got constant it got to a point joe when they was having so much bad shit that i had to buy that dope off of them a lot of them i had to buy that dope off of them because they would sell i was like they would they would they would take that bad shit and i was like nah if i got some bad shit from the guy who was front me i automatically let him know egg nah this is some bad shit and then he would go back to whoever the dealer was pull out his heat
Starting point is 01:34:10 and like you're gonna you're gonna either give me my money back or you're gonna be you guys you know what i'm saying so like uh uh we because of that man my man the corner was cracking man we had a little had a couple little spots here and there but it was cracking man all of us on the corner it was like i'm gonna say 10 or 15 dudes on just this one corner you know what i'm saying cars we would take turns with the cars that's how many heads and fiends it just was insane at the time the money just was cray first in the 15th come on man you couldn't wait like man i made sure you really up on the fifth on the first and fifth man make sure you ready because those was your money making days like that whole week everybody's coming spending then like what i used to do too was i used to hit
Starting point is 01:34:57 like i would tell fiends this i would get like look you come back for every 10 customers i'll throw you one or two they're like really like yeah so you bring me a new customer i'll throw you throw you i'll throw you two you they go get out of here so when they was coming man we're bringing people in you know and it just was wrong so like like you you would think i would lose but actually what i was doing all i would do is just take a dime and break it in half and then give them one so really he just got a dime you know what i'm saying but he didn't care he just got something it's free it's free and people remember that when you're on the street and you help somebody up with a fucking high they love that shit it's uh i never was part of a crew that sold drugs in
Starting point is 01:35:42 the street i sold drugs to people i knew in 85 i would go to harlem and watch this cuban crew sell weed on the street like cuban refugees those dark skin mother fuckers that came from mario harbour and they were like you they had 15 to 20 dealers on the street from the top of the hill all the way down they took turns you got 25 nickel bags and you had to give the guy a hundred dollars that's what the street dealers were getting so for every 25 nickel bags you sold you kept 25 dollars these guys had no way to work they'd be out there all day they're slinging nickel bags a fucking refill leak and your magazine and the cops are gonna arrest you every 30 days you get you get away with it for 28 29 days and you know how to read the street they have different spots well do they
Starting point is 01:36:35 mess with you because i i told you i told the story the other day my girlfriend lived in in inglewood and on the corner they had a turned over 99 cent store shopping cart and there were always like six or seven guys just right there yeah and paul said the cops never came that they used to help her mom with the groceries because after a while it's kind of like now you have to remember too like people all the cops ain't good right so a lot of them is kind of witch you know what i'm saying and some of them is taking the dope and money from you so look if i'm on a corner right versus you got a stash spot that's number one so if i'm just standing on the corner what's the most they can do they can just either give me a ticket for loitering or tell me to get
Starting point is 01:37:16 off the corner so i don't have to be posted on the corner i'd go sit in front of somebody's driveway and sit on a on a on a curb and just wait for the people so what they're gonna tell me to get off the curb you can't can't tell me to move you know what i'm saying so like there's no way really to and and and if you really think about it the the amount of people that sell in drugs this is the problem with the communities there's so many people selling drugs they outnumber the cops they can't be everywhere all at once you know what i'm saying they stole they just patrol and they just wait till hopefully they see something you know what i'm saying so they're doing their job but people don't think they're not there they're there but they just they just and now you
Starting point is 01:37:52 include the bad cops who's also helping that makes it even weaker so like like like the communities just feel with with with helplessness because the the power or the authority ain't there so people people say that but i do know for a fact just be me being a street cat and being out there like there are there are a lot of cops that's trying out there they do but the other guys make it harder for them paul she she lived in the same building for her entire life and she said the cops just gave up like but before like i wanted her to move up here and they finally did and like right before and right after it's right next to england high school there were two drive-by shootings and one one drive-by and one guy just came up to a dude sitting in a car
Starting point is 01:38:32 and shot him in the head right and like the they were out there yelling at the cops right because it's they don't they don't go by there there's a dude in england a really like a like a 500 pound black dude who rides a motorcycle in a fake cop uniform right just to to to see i don't know what he's trying to do but they don't have apparently according to her they don't do anything down there or maybe they're working on it they run raids on particular areas vice cops they do it but they don't have the resources to get you off the street completely i had a friend that was a crypt and he told me the story one time he was here in LA and in 1980s i met him in 87 88 88 i'm sorry and he was telling me in the crack epidemic this kid had nine cars there's a young handsome
Starting point is 01:39:21 black kid i was friends with i can't find them on facebook i found the son and the son really didn't want to talk to me because i'm a white dude i guess fucking uh he said he was making at the end of the day after paying his dealers and everybody on the street from 85 to 87 he was making 3000 per dealer on the street he would take himself 3000 per dealer 3000 so if he had uh doc on the street at the end of the day he cleared three grand per head there to the streets and he had 1215 he had three on this street three out so what the crypts did was listen instead of fighting for the fucking corner put three your players on one's corner put three on the other corner let's just go to work no and everybody's happy we don't have to fight we take turns who's next your next
Starting point is 01:40:14 lead the crypt you know and that's what they did but he said he had you know 10 guys out there at one time that's three thousand dollars a day he had eight cars he had like six different women that came to visit him in that prison and they'd all bring him food but they bring him another brothers he had him on check down and bring him another brothers so on Sunday nights me and that motherfucker ate another brothers like a motherfucker i loved him with all my heart guys i love this gentleman with all my heart he told i thought like i was badass like oh i sold a couple ounces he was like listen let me show you what i got and he was and i could tell when other guys would come in as young as he was and the older guys would show him respect oh you're talking oh yeah we oh yeah i
Starting point is 01:41:01 would come here we know the same people and i know for a fact is i used to take visitations with him he also did a job that we got weekly visitation see everybody gets saturday and sunday visitation i took a stock clerk job because i get monday and tuesday visitation so now instead of being in a room with a coffee table to how to feel my wife's tits and finger i could do it wide open i just tell her bring a dress with no panties on and sit on top of me and i'll bang you right there well we're fucking eating pizza right so he had him all week and he had he told me i have him on check there are only a lot to see me once a month but i get two visits per week sometimes he gets two on one day and they bring him food oh my god he's the first person that returned me on the
Starting point is 01:41:45 church's chicken the spicy god damn i mean it was just you know so i i get it i get that uh when i was in san francisco 185 those cubans also had something going on the street and their english was terrible and i would help him and there was one cuban that went till this day i know if he would say matty why not for sali because he i go what's sali sali you know sale he didn't know what the fuck sali was when he'd say sales you should so it's uh it was a real trip talking to you today doc i thought this was going to be about something else and i ended up talking about something else but i wanted to get down for a while and i kept forgetting i'd go down there i wanted some flavor on the show and i know you bring it because we are from the same cut only
Starting point is 01:42:29 from a different uh you respect character and you want people to treat you respect because you treat people with all the respect and love in the world yeah so we some of these steps outside that boundary it hurts your internal like it hurts you it hurts you inside i want to cry i want to cry what happened to that i know that guy 15 fucking years how can you do something like that you're fucking up my world you're supposed to call yourself my friend right so i get the anger you know you get the angus with some people you don't get it with you i get it because i get it a dog i get upset every fucking day right because they do shit that's where's your character where's your heart at yeah really gonna do something like this i just got a lot to learn
Starting point is 01:43:10 myself so i try not to like make just keep myself and check as much as possible and when other people check me out it's embarrassing in there it hurts but i know that they're coming from a true place and and if it's the and if it's the truth then i need to hear it and i have to say i'm in i'm in just don't yell across room in front of 20 people pull me to the side and wait man you've been slipping there's what's going on either get it together get to give it up and you go home and you go fuck that motherfucker but then after a few days you know what he's right and maybe that talk is the best talk of your fucking life sometimes i see it i see it all the fucking time yeah i just you know i just you said dog you said earlier like at some point at the
Starting point is 01:43:52 at the comedy store that you realized you were messing up and you needed to to change your ways yeah because uh but it's i i think what happens to people like tommy is they don't ever realize that like i was thinking about it last night every six months or so i find myself not working as hard or or i could be doing a little bit different like every six months i get a little bit stagnant i get comfortable with what i'm doing and i feel like people like tommy they never they never realized or they don't choose to change it well you know what the problem is is like this is my philosophy like age one through like seventeen you basically you know people are living for you they're taking care of you most most everybody has to they have to be taken care of by somebody
Starting point is 01:44:41 because they're kids so you you're at doing that time you're learning what what life is as a as a child and as a teenager then after that when you become 18 19 20 you start learning to be an adult and start learning to think more on your own and then you start coming to who you are once after like age 27 28 by the time you're like 29 30 you know who you are so the problem is is after that point it's hard to learn and change back into anything because now you're this person it's like it's like a computer with a virus you know what i'm saying you if a computer if a computer got a virus for too long that's why you have to catch it right away but if it got into for too long it'll be stuck like that and you have to get a whole new computer and unfortunately for people
Starting point is 01:45:23 like Tommy he's stuck in the virus and for him to to make a change it it's going to take a long time to reprogram yourself so that's why when like i said when i got to the store that's what the store had been doing for me and just just other things too but it's i've been going through a whole like re-changing and i've gotten better my mom said i've gotten better she's like your whole lot better than what it used to be and i'm i'm thankful for him man you know and but like people like Tommy he'd probably be like that for the rest of his life because it's just hard to make that change he can't what he can do though is he can like say i want to do this and work on it but it just takes so much time it just doesn't happen overnight you know what i'm saying it's
Starting point is 01:46:06 just so let me ask you something you know when i park over that there two hour oh sure one more start of here i gotta ask you something and we'll let you go uh where's Sergio love uh he didn't come back up there back and forth and you know since the thing happened with Tommy he's been the last time i talked to him i got his number if you want it where is he he's uh he lives over if he's still over there he's off of Le Brea and uh at the at those expensive apartments over there uh the Palazios or whatever you know i'm talking about no he's Le Brea and he's just a good dude if you talk to him yeah yeah i'll hit him up i'll hit him up i'll hit him up i really always loved yeah he's uh been doing this first he was doing this race car thing that he was working with with
Starting point is 01:46:51 these guys some kind of race car thing and then the last time i talked to him he was doing some show or something tv thing up in vegas that he was working with and then that's the last time i seen him you know man he wanted to go hard and Tommy i had to stop him a couple of times yeah he's uh he's no joke let me read these sponsors real quick all right and we'll get you out of here a big shout out to my motherfuckers that on it i love you guys with all my heart i took uh shroom tech the last two days just a great product if you want to work out and you want that little extra fucking push iron dragon tv well i know you put church oh yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna go back to that i'm just trying to mix them all up but since you reminded me listen
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