Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #290 - Billy Corben

Episode Date: June 12, 2015

Billy Corben, director of the new documentary "Dawg Fight," calls in to Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt.This podcast is brought to you by:   Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout.   ��NatureBox. Visit Naturebox.com/joey for a free trial box.   Meundies.com Go to meundies.com/joey for 20% off.   Iron Dragon TV. A New Roku channel with all the best martial arts films. Use Code word joey for two free rentals.   Recorded live on 06/11/2015.
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Streets for you cock suckers. Oh shit. Tell you what, man. Eddie Van Henle was on fire on this fucking album. Oh shit. Police sat in the house. Jews are around. The star of David is above it. And it's a beautiful day to be alive, motherfucker. What's your story, dog? There's no story. How are you doing? I'm doing great. I'm feeling better. You know, on Mean Street, when Mean Streets came out, I wasn't a big Van Henle fan. Van Henle, the first down had come out, and I went to see him blow Sabbath out of the fucking stage. And then Van Henle II came out, and it was a men's immortal album. Okay. And then I don't remember what happened

after Van Henle II, what happened after that. Maybe Women and Children first. And that one, I didn't think much of. And then this one came out, and I fucking said, wow. And I was just getting into senior year in high school. One of the first videos on MTV was one of the songs from the sound. This is love. And that's a great fucking video. That was my Van Henle story for the day, right? I was thinking about that the other day, though, how music nowadays, it seems like they're writing it for what they feel will sell. I forget there was a song like by this, like Megan Trainor. I forget what it was about, but I was just, as I was listening to it, all I could think of is someone sat down and wrote a song that they thought would be profitable or popular.

And it doesn't seem like any of the music that we start the show with is like that. No. And it doesn't seem like, it seems like that kind of translates to everything, but especially for you, comedy. It seems like there's a lot of comedy out there who, even movies, where you watch it, like someone thought about this, like this is going to be popular. Concocted this. Yeah. It's more concocted. Well, sometimes an agent or a courtier and say, hey man, you have any scripts about ghosts hanging out with Martians. That's going to be the popular thing next year. And everybody will buy one of those scripts, try to develop it out of the six or seven networks. Four of them will put something, vampire diaries. It always happens.

They'll put them in a vampire, then it fizzles away, then two of them will go away, and two of them will last. And that's just, they buy hooks, whatever the fuck it is. It's like, what's a skinny girl that sings about everybody? She fucks. Oh, Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift. I don't give a fuck about that music. I have serious in the car. I listen to fucking Ozzy's Boneyard before I put that shit on. Right. You know, so I don't really, I don't even know what's really going on in the music, in the world of music. And it's very sad. I feel weird sometimes, but every time I listen to new music, it feels like I've heard it before. Yeah. So that's my opinion on it. That's why I don't listen to it. I don't mind listening to Ozzy's Boneyard. I listen to Jimmy Florentine's show

and Norton's show. And you know, if I'm in the car, that's where I put up. I listen to hip hop all out hip hop station, those crazy motherfuckers. You've never put that on when I've been in the car. You always talk about it, but you've never heard it. They're the craziest black people in the fucking world. Sometimes it's really good. Sometimes it's, you know, you're like, yeah, what the fuck is this? My wife doesn't like when I put on the car. Mercy definitely don't like it. Chiseling rap? It's not rap. They talk a lot too. It's all access. They talk. They do an interview. They play music. They fucking curse. I listen to classic disco studio 54 at night sometimes. You listen to everything. I listen to everything. I don't give a fuck what's, if it's not,

I listen to Lithium. I like Lithium a lot. Lithium is my music. That's, you know, Allison Chains, Nirvana, that stat generation, you know, the sound of winter, those fucking people, Bush, you know, type of shit like that. And then there's also a classic rock I listen to. To me, it doesn't bother me as much. You feel like you've heard it before because at this point, I mean, it's possible, but it's a lot harder to not have anyone influence you. But it's just like, even when I'm listening to like Morning Radio, and it's just hearing the songs that they play and then hearing the stuff that they have to talk about, it's just, I can get into new stuff, but it just has to feel like someone actually wrote it with like, for them and for

mine, it's weird. I don't like when everything sounds like Green Day sometimes to me. I hate that shit. I like Green Day. Leave Green Day to fuck along. You know, everything sounds like everything has like this. I don't fucking dig it. So I don't judge it. It's not that I'm judging it. Just it's not for me. Maybe if I buy the whole album, I might fucking like it. You know, let me talk to you guys about yesterday. Yesterday was one of the weirdest podcasts we ever had in our life. First of all, let me tell you what's going on in life. And it happens sometimes it's the and I don't like it's the law diminishing returns. I schedule myself really well guys because I know that I got tired. I got a lot on my plate. I don't have a lot on my plate like a

TV show or shit like that. I just have a lot of movement on my plate, especially as we don't have no family to help us with the fucking baby. You know, I have to have to help around the house. I have to do be there certain times. You know, I'm trying to write a book, which I'm banging my head off of, you know, I'm trying to write material. We're trying to tape a special here in August. You know, my agency, they moved. So I had to go with a different agent to a better agent, which I'm not mad about. But it just was a lot of stress because if I told somebody, no, I would get them mad. So whether I said no to whether I stayed or went, somebody's gonna be angry. You know, there was just a lot of little things going on. You know, I had a cancel podcast

Tuesday morning that we had a cancel three times already meeting the guy because yeah, I had two auditions and I spoke to him at four and said, we're on for tomorrow, brother. This is going to be fucking great. 10am, not 15 minutes later, not 15 fucking minutes later. And I've had two days like that this week where the whole slate has changed, you know, because of an audition or meeting, you know, this new agency, they're aggressive to get me on boards now that making little things happen, you know. So it's just yesterday we got together, it was just one of those dud days that we couldn't get the energy up in the room. Martin Wheeler's a very interesting guy. But I just, sorry about the bottle guy, sorry, sorry. It just felt that

it just sometimes I see people drinking and when they put the bottle down, they'll put it down like a half a fag and I would go, why is he drinking like that? That's why, because they're decent people, not that they're half a fag. They're decent. They drink the right way, not like a fucking gorilla like me. I like push the water and it goes into your fucking throat like and then whatever. So what's going on, Lee? I see y'all panicking and should have been like Captain Kirk. Eastern almost died, but it's bad. Stop taking your, take your finger off the board, you know, fucking things up. Every time you leave your finger on the board, all fucked up. So it was just one of those dud fucking podcasts. I love Mr. Wheeler. We're just going to redo it

again today. Not with Mr. Wheeler. We're going to get many another time in a different type of podcast situation. And that's why we just didn't want to leave you with that one. I didn't want somebody referring somebody to us and then the guy went into the podcast and that's that one. They'll call you back and go, what the fuck was that? Even though you have good and bad podcasts, we just figured Billy Corbin wanted to come in this week. So we're going to have him call in and talk, talk a little bit about dogfight, which I saw and seemed, it seemed very interesting. But let's see what the fuck my man Billy Corbin has to say. But I basically left here yesterday. I went home, I wrote a little bit and I'll tell you, I could have gone to bed at six.

And I held it out like I went to, we had dinner at the house and I played with the baby. And we held out and I think I put the sleep app in your mask down at 848. 848, I couldn't take it no more. And I slept straight till one, I think I opened my eyes at one, closed them again, got up at three at the dot, got up, made a cup of coffee. I was thinking you're going to 5am Jiu-Jitsu. 5am Jiu-Jitsu? Yeah, I took a fucking aspirin and everything from my heart. I go, maybe I go to 5am Jiu-Jitsu. Where do they do that? V-Back. No way. Yes, they do. 5am. Who teaches it? Kyle. He gets off of work. He's like a graphic designer. So he works night. So he said, fuck, I'm second time not training. I'll just put together a

five in the morning class. And guess what? He gets five people, six people in there every morning. Some people have that energy early in the morning and they want to get the fuck out of the house and some people have that. They got to be at work by 7am. They got showers over there. And there's a lot of people over here who work nights. I used to work nights for two years. I could see that. But it's, with yesterday, it's kind of weird how when you left and we were kind of like on the fence about doing it again. From the first job that I had, you kind of learn, people teach you just how to get, like how just enough is good enough or whatever. Like when I used to work at the movie theater, we used to sweep the popcorn under the row in front.

So like you, the night cleaners would get it. And it's just, as I was like thinking about it in here, because I was trying to put it up, I was like, I think he's right. Like it's just, you have to have some sort of standard for yourself. And it's, I think a lot of people deal with that at work. They learn shortcuts and people teach them. The people training them have shortcuts. The worst part of society today is customer service. Customer service in this country has gone down 50%. Are we getting dumber? Are we not getting paid enough? Or do we not have integrity in our jobs and who the fuck we are? All of it. Okay. It's a little bit of everything. Because sometimes you go, what the fuck? I'm getting 12. My cousin's getting 18.

I'm not going to work hard. I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to do that. But that's when your personal comes in. And once your personal comes in, you say to yourself, what do I expect from myself? You know, that was it. Even when I sold Coke, I sold the best Coke I could get my hands on. When I bring the edibles I bring in here, I bring the best edibles that I feel are out there. You know those little fucking things we eat, they're 20 bucks a piece. They get your eye. That's 20 fucking bucks. The stars? The snow. The fucking things. Oh, oh. The taffy. Oh, wow. They're not great edible. But I would never push them because they're $20 for that little fucking edible. Right. Okay. Stars are three stars for 10 bucks. Oh, wow. I don't get mad at you for

that. That's three people getting high. But who the fuck are you? It's a great edible, but it doesn't work for us all the way around. I would never stand behind it. Because I want the people, listen to the church to get the best fucking value for that dollar. I don't want them coming to me going, Joey, it's a great cookie, but it's $35. Who the fuck are you kidding? Yeah, anybody could do that. Right. Anybody could do that. It's like when you see, you know, pregnant women are celebrities and you see them eight weeks later and people are like, look at the diet she went on and then you see women at home going, why can't that happen to me? Well, because she had two in an hour, an hour training. Somebody came in and rubbed it with fucking cow udder cream to take the fucking

stretch marks off and put it in baking soda. And, you know, it's amazing what money does. Right. I don't come from that cut. That's why I drive a fucking Subaru. I want the best for my dollar. I'm an American. I want the best for my fucking dollar. Yeah, I could drive a BMW and fucking make a lease it and drive around and make believe I'm a fucking producer and do 35 in the left hand lane like like a fucking Momo like half these people in this town. I don't want to do that. I drive what works for me. It's 229 a month. Whether I have a job or not, I could steal 229 fucking dollars. You understand? I could get a dollar a month and still make my car payment. So that's what my thought process is. When it comes to the work, you know, when I'm fucking around

the comedy store and I have an idea and I want to go down there and it may bomb. Hey, it may bomb. You know, uh, this is what this is on a Tuesday night. But when you pay $20 to come see him on a Friday and Saturday, I give you the best I have because I don't want somebody else saying I saw him. Hey, you're going to have bad sets, but I want you to know in your heart. I gave you the best I had yesterday. This is a podcast. We could put it up and not give a fuck. Right. You know what? I don't want to do this to these people. Right. I want to give them something every day to take home and go, you know what the podcast suck, but he made a great point with that. There was no point made yesterday. We had nowhere to go. I was flat. You were flat. He was flat.

So fuck it. Let's just bounce it and let's give these people why they listen to us. Right. That's how you do things in this life. And I don't think you trying something new on stage isn't giving your best because I think, I think what would, what I think some comics might do is going on stage and doing the same thing. And that's just, they know it's going to be okay and there'll be an okay set. But if you try something new, you're trying to make yourself better. You know, ever since I started the podcast with you or with Felicia and we were doing this, you know what, man? It created something different than me. There was times I went up on stage and I can tell you, I didn't give a fuck. They weren't there to see me. They were there to see Rogen. I could see how

that attitude turns out. I could see it in many ways how things like that happen, but there's another flip side to that. I want them to like me. I want to be likable with them and have a relationship. So, you know, I could, they'll come and see me again and blah, blah, blah, and blah, blah, and everybody's fucking happy. So I just want to do the podcast over just to, just to give them something. I just thought that wasn't us yesterday. And it was, it happened. I proved it to myself when I went home and fucking fell asleep for, you know, 12 hours because I got up at three. I got some coffee. I watched an episode of The Sopranos. I watched a little bit of Sons of Anarchy and I watched a little bit of News

and I wrote. And it's funny. People always tell you, I love writing when I get up. I love writing my book. Like, I even wrote some bullshit. Like, I tell people to do like the Warriors way, whatever idea they had. But the interesting thing, I did this. I got a fucking, when you're sitting there at four in the morning and there's no noise. And I even went outside and hit the ball. Oh my God, I got this Hollywood OG. Holy, this thing will fuck you up. When I leave here, I was running late, so I didn't really want to go over there and stop. And, you know, when I leave here, I got like five twenties in my pocket. I'm going over there. I'm getting the whole fucking $100 to them. That's how good that weed is. Wow. I got fucked up this morning, fucked up a couple minutes ago.

But when I smoked it yesterday, I was high for at least, I don't know how long, and I couldn't stop fucking eating nacho chips either. Those little dried chips the baby has. Oh, okay. I must eat fucking 20 of those things. Oh, yeah. No, I've been getting better at that, though. When you leave out of here. Oh, you're not going crazy. It was really crazy last night. Like, I was, uh, Gordon Warnock is helping me with the book. He's an agent, a really good guy, you know, and I'm going back and forth. He's been telling me to give him a chapter, you know, give him a chapter about my first day in North Bergen, which not my first day living there, but my first day when I met Carmine and Anthony and all that. Right. But he also wanted me to give him an intro,

you know. I couldn't figure out what the intro was. I couldn't figure out if it was, uh, it was, uh, my wife telling me that she was pregnant and how I reacted to it, you know, that day. Like, it just, uh, it messed with me for a couple of hours. And then, and then her and I got into it one day at the habit over the pregnancy. Like, I was like, I don't know what to do. You know, I'm fucking 40. I'm gonna be 50. And I've been thinking about what to write for the intro. You know, the whole time I was like, well, I'll write this, not write that. Maybe I'll write when I was in the jail cell and what I was thinking about. And then something dawned on me. I was looking at, we got a school picture from Mercy. Have you

seen it? No. A school picture. She looks like a fucking bruiser. She didn't like the photographer. So she was crying. When she don't like the photographer, she gets pissed off. She don't like who's taking the pictures. She'll fuck them. So, uh, I don't know what happened. I didn't go. I was out of town. My wife told me she didn't like the lady. The lady was like 800 pounds and she was scaring Mercy and Mercy was fucking yelling at her and shit. You know, she finally took the picture. If you see the picture, it looks like a fucking bruiser. She looks like, you know, she's, she's pissed and she's big. She's scowling? Yeah, she's scowling and she's big and the whole thing. And I'm looking at her and I'm thinking to myself, you know, the last thing I would want right now

in this world is to leave this little girl, like, to die. Like, I couldn't even imagine. Like, I just could not imagine, you know. And this is last night when I'm sitting there writing what I tell you, motherfuckers, that has worked to me in the morning, just to get up in the morning, go to Thursday, June 11th. It's a beautiful day. I always started with it. It's a beautiful day to be alive. Today I have this, this, this, and this on the table. And all of a sudden your mind just goes. Your mind just opens up. It's amazing. Your mind just dumps this. And in the middle of all this writing, I came up with this thing. When I got, when I left here, yes, I had a message on my phone for my friends in Miami, the people I knew on 148th Street. Okay. And she wanted to call me and ask

me about a date if I was going to be in Florida on that date. And I said, no. And we got back and forward to talking about something. She said, I remember a story one time when you were, you went to Riverside Drive and you went to play baseball. And she goes, do you remember I remember at all? She goes, you put the cup outside your pants. You wouldn't put the cup under your underwear. You didn't like it touching your dick. So you put the baseball cup here. And she goes, hey, a thousand kids called you a retard and you didn't give a fuck. So you, that was what you were doing. You were putting the drop cup outside. How old were you? I go, how old was I? She goes, you had to be maybe five. That's a stir. Five and a half with jeans on. She goes, you put the cup out.

You had your little baseball shirt with your helmet and with your hat and your glove and the shit, you know. And you just didn't like the idea of putting it in the pants? Nah. And something happened that she goes, I went down there with your mom and the guy I was seeing at the time, Felipe, who she ended up marrying, she told me, she goes, do you remember? And I go, no, I don't. And she goes, you said something really weird that I never forgot. When the game ended, you guys had to shake hands. It was like a little league game or something, like a, some Pee Wee type tee ball or some shit. You had to shake hands. Right. Yeah. And she goes, when you were shaking hands, you just turned your back and you walked away and

I went up to you. Your mom was like 10 feet ahead of you and you were running up to your mom. And she goes, I went up to you and you looked at me and something about don't you want to stay or something. And you said, what I want to stay for? I got no father to watch me play this fucking game anyway. She goes, do you remember that? And I go, not at all. She goes, I was just thinking about that. She goes, do you think of your father still? And I go, yeah. She goes, you know, in those years, it was still fresh in your mind and you could not get over it. She goes, I remember that there was situations at night that you would wake up yelling. She goes, this went on. Do you remember at all? And I go, no. And she goes, you know, I think that sometimes when we talk, you

always think that your life got fucked up when your mom died. I think she goes, it was when you and it was and I thought of that conversation yesterday and I must have gone home yesterday and just processed it in my sleep or something. And I think when Mercy, when my wife came to me that day and I got into it with her at because we got into it like maybe a month or two later when they eat lunch, you know, my wife talks, she's a Gentile. So she just talks about whatever the fuck she talks about, you know, Gentiles just talk, you know, I love it with all my heart, but she starts talking and I don't know, I reacted to it in a bad way and she got upset and it was, I was scared. I was scared. I always thought about, I've forgotten over the years. I think my mom's pain

made me forget about my dad's pain, but that was what started. That's what had me going. I always really wanted a dad. That's why I'm so close to Carmine today and Mr. T and Carlos I'm really close with those guys and that's why I think I work out like my back hurts, not my lower back, thank God. We had to do wrestling things so my neck hurts a little bit because we were learning how to grab somebody's back and get out of a choke. When they have you in a choke, how to grab their arm and push your body away so my neck got a little tweaked. But it was very interesting that I wrote that out last night. That's what I wrote out while I was watching the Sopranos, how instead that would be the intro, which I really am. That's my biggest

fear. I love to see mercy grow. I would love to watch mercy grow up. I would love to see mercy at least be 18, which would clock me at 68. It's a biggest fear and I never had fears before. I never really, you die, you die. You die when you die. There's nothing you can do about it. You think as you're floating away in a casket, you got control. You got no control. One morning you wake up, you go to put your sneakers on and you punch the ticket. That's what happens, man. That's just the way life is or whatever God's decision works for you. How often do you think about death? Never until I had mercy. Never. It's a thought I'd never like thinking about. I don't like thinking about people's death. When a thought crosses my mind, I try to get it out

and I throw it in my mental waste basket. I try really hard to avoid all those types of thoughts just because I don't like them just from being a kid and having all those people dying. So when somebody comes to me and says, ah, such and such is sick, it's like when they told me my best friend Jimmy Berkel was sick a couple of years ago and they said he had six months left. I didn't process it for four days. Then by the fifth day I broke down and cried and cried and I couldn't believe that this guy was dying, but we're all going to fucking die. In my mind I decided, listen, he's going to die. We're all going to die. It takes this moment for us to be nice to people. That's what really pissed me off about Jimmy Berkel dying. It changed

me because I was like, Jimmy Berkel may have six months to live. Let me be nicer to him. Why? Why? I don't know how many days that guy fucking Rouse has to live. Why am I nice to him? I don't know how much, when I go to fucking get coffee, I don't know how long that fucking black dude with the dreads has to live, nicest guy in the world. I don't know. I don't know. We don't know. That's why you have to be nice. You have your moments and what you try to be fucking nice. No, it's messed up when a thought gets stuck in your head now. I've had a thought stuck in my head for months that maybe it's because I'm getting older now and I just, when you're a kid, you get your old. What old? You're 26. I know that, but when you're a kid, you're really self-involved, I think.

Self-involved a lot. And just yourself. Right, yeah, you really are. You're the only thing in your own world. I don't know why, but for the last few months I'm obsessed with how we're all, everything we go and do is about us. But then you look at somebody else and I have a whole new life that you have no idea about. And I'll finish the video, but call them in. Billy Corbin in the house, Miami's favorite son. What's going on? What is the state of Miami today? Drop it on me. It's hot. It is hot. Yeah, it's June. Yeah, it's fucking humid, muggy. The alligators don't even come out.

Yeah, it's a little scary today too, because it's getting to that intense heat where like transformers are exploding, not like the Michael Day kind, but like the electricity kind. And then the police just shot a homeless who was holding a stick this morning in a park in Overtown. You know Overtown. Yes. And I don't know, it's like, it's feeling a little bit like do the right thing. Remember the end of the Spike Lee movie, you know, in the summer? Right. So you think they're gonna go off a little bit? I don't know. We don't really ride here anymore. It's too hot, I think. But people just don't get like engaged politically or civically. Fortunately, that we don't ride it. But I just mean like, we used to ride all the time, you know, in this town.

But it just doesn't happen like that anymore. If I tell you something, Billy Corbin, I think we're gonna have a national ride soon. I think that the country is beginning to, it's like a powder keg, they call it. This is a little too much lately. This fucking guy in Texas with the chick, the little kid. What's going on here in LA? What's going on in Miami? Either the media is blowing this cop thing up to get us up in arms or something just isn't right lately. Well, I think something's a little off. There's no question about that. But I just disagree that there's going to be that kind of national explosion of violence. I just don't think that Americans do that here. You know, we don't really take up arms against the system like that. You

know, we're pretty, we're pretty either from a laze. There's like a level of like, ah, we all have enough. We are just enough that the government let us have that we're cool with it. You know, just don't abuse everybody or kill everybody. And of course, we're kind of a historically traditionally racist country, too. We just are. That's just the reality of our history. You know, I'm looking at this. I remember being at a Chinese restaurant on a date going to do comedy and watching the Rodney King, all that stuff, you know, and it all went down here. You know, it all went down the leg of living all the riots and stuff. And something happened this last week with that. The homeless guy. Did you pay attention to that? Yeah, out here

that got shot. He said they said they said he took the gun from six cops. He took one of the guns that six cops that happened downtown. Did you watch that? No, I didn't either. Zeal, whatever case. Then they said that he was, you know, justified shooting. And then shit got ugly. And they had to re redo it. And now they're looking at two cops for it. But if you see this, you could tell they fucking shot this guy. He's a little fucking homeless guy. You know, he was a young 26 year old, 25 year old, 27 year old. Oh no. And that one made me think about that day I was watching that Rodney King thing. Like that one made me think it's, it's been a little bad here, Billy Corbin. It's been weird here also. Yeah, I was living in Los Angeles during the Rodney King

trial. And I, you know, the riots broke out obviously when the officers were acquitted. And we all had, we were all on lockdown. There was that curfew. I was, I was living in Westwood and we had a, an apartment that was kind of like on a hill. So we were on like the basement level, like under the street. And finally we climbed out. I remember the series finale of the Cosby show of all things aired on that Thursday night. And Bill Cosby came on on the, the NBC affiliate in LA and like had this pre-show kind of like announcement, you know, this call for like calm and peace and justice. And then we watched the Cosby show finale and came up over ground and, you know, all the, the stores were, you know, had their plate glass windows broken and there was

like shit on the packages of like shit that have been looted on the ground. And it's interesting that you say it kind of feels like, like that again. I get that sense here too, but, but not in the, in the uprising kind of way. I get it in terms of political environment and the, and the, and the toxic relationship between the police and the community, but I'm not feeling it from in Miami anyway on that activism level that you're talking about. Listen, you know me, I'm not, I'm not a big activist, but I'm seeing just fucking, I live in LA and every two days in the morning news, it's something different. It's something fucking different, man. I don't think, I think that's what kind of what we're talking. It's like,

not activism. It's not like they're trying to even make a change. It's almost just like brawls a little bit. Just people are going, people are getting fed up with things and they're going crazy. Like the cops are going crazy. It's not the people. How the fuck did that happen in Texas with that dude stepping on the girl and putting the gun out? You know what's going on all over the country? You know these people have fucking cameras in their phones. Yeah. Why are you acting a fucking mutt? Like, why are you acting like this? You know that they're watching cops. Let me, let me tell you the unfortunate legacy of, of, of the Rodney King situation is that the lessons should have been, we are now seeing, we're starting to see in that era, the ubiquity

of cameras. You know, we didn't have them in our phones yet. Obviously we were, you know, 10 years away from that, but, but there are cameras everywhere, whether they're surveillance, whether, you know, people just have handycams, you know, like we did in those days. And the lessons should have been everybody's got to behave themselves. And by the way, that's police, civilian, you know, everybody, you know, be on your best behavior. The eye in the sky is, is watching us all. And when they got acquitted at Rodney King, the lesson went out or the, the message went out to police officers that you are actually free to behave. Look at the guy in Staten Island for Christ's sake, that was choked to death on camera and was not charged by a grand

jury. And we're basically the sense was, you're going to believe me or you're lying eyes. I mean, it's incredible. We live in very strange times. What's going on in your world? What's been happening, Belisey? Well, it's funny, just kind of, you know, we always talk about these issues every time I come on and we finally made a movie, you know, documentary in Dogfight that we just released that kind of in its own way addresses, you know, these kind of racial issues, the income disparity. And I think everything that seems to be coming to a head in America now and the way, you know, some of the inner city and underprivileged communities in Miami has dealt with it. It's a sort of thunderdome approach to economic recovery. And so I've been just completely consumed with

the law of Dogfight. My favorite was the four black women that gave you the color commentary after every fight. That was as interesting as fuck. No pun intended with the color commentary, I hope. No, no, not at all. Fucking hilarious. You know, I had saw that guy before with Kimbo Slice years ago on TV. So as soon as I saw him, I had, I was like, who the fuck is that? I saw him, you know, I've seen him before, saw him before, I've seen him before. And it blew my mind that fucking thing. And the way you shot it, it just looks so amazing. The shots, the punches to the fucking head, the dude knocked out. Oh my fucking God. What are these guys walk with? How much money do they make for those things? 50 bucks? Yeah, not enough, man. Not enough to take that kind of abuse.

And more importantly, you know, they're running the risk of not only, you know, the injuries that they'll sustain from the other fighter, but if they kill the other guy in one of these illegal, unsanctioned backyard bare knuckle brawl events, they're going to prison and the promoter, you know, dot off 5,000 is like the Don King of the backyard who used to roll with team Kimbo until he decided to do these kind of illegal block party, you know, fighting events and putting together his own cards. He could go to prison too, just for promoting these illegal fights. And the purses for the fighters all are contingent upon how much cash they collected the gate. So they get, you know, $20 a head or 50 bucks for what they call VIP, which are those

plastic folding chairs around this makeshift 12 by 12 ring and Dada's mother's backyard. So I saw fighters win as much as 400 for a fight or he would also would give like 50 bucks to the loser in a fight like that or as little as $200 in a fight and $20 or 25 bucks for the loser. And then these guys basically go to the ER after they get their their money and can get patched up. That's fucking crazy. It shows how I mean, it kind of it shows how bad things are getting that I mean, people are willing to do that to make a little and but it it also made me like I thought when I was watching and I think Joe really like like some guys just going around when there's a parade saying there's going to be a fight and he sets up

his backyard and it's just he's just doing it. It's American ingenuity. It's what I always talk about. Now let me ask you this, these guys that are fighting, are they fighting? They make a money, their living is fighting? Or this is just what they do to take that money and go by crack or whatever the fuck they're doing. I'm just asking. I don't know. I don't know what the motivation is. You know, I stole to make money to fucking snorkel. You know, I didn't stay and I didn't I didn't have to steal Billy Corbin, but it was the easiest path of resistance. You understand me? So for these guys, hoods, what do they do? I mean, they didn't look like druggies or nothing. I think it's a fair question. A lot of the guys are ex-cons. A lot of them, you know, have been in

and out of jail and out of prison. They don't have a lot of or they feel like they don't have a lot of legit opportunity. And for better or worse, true or not, they believe that this is their greatest opportunity, not only the little money to help feed their families themselves, but at an opportunity to get discovered because that's what Kimbo Kimbo is the godfather of the game. He's the one who established this, for lack of a better term, business model, where you videotape yourself fighting in these backyard fights, you upload the footage and hope to get discovered by professional MMA trainers or promoters. And it happens. I mean, you know, it's a bit of a hollow victory, but we saw in the year and a half we were shooting, we saw like three or four guys go pro right from

the backyard. And of course, there was there was two guys that didn't even live that long. You always have an eye for, you know, in your documentaries, I mean, cocaine cowboys, the one about the college rape, the fights and all this shit. You're such a nice guy. You're such a sweet, you're like the Stephen King of documentaries, you know that? This was the darkest one for sure. This one, because I used to go to Miami a lot as a kid, and I used to drive not to that particular neighborhood, but neighborhoods like that. You know, when we used to go to Flagler or whatever the fuck my aunt was taking us, my godmother, and I would look around and go, what the fuck do these people have?

And on the other side of that, listen, man, from the age of 14, and I'm not lying to you, from the age of 14 to the age of, let's put 10 on the short side, 17. I saw one of those every week, not one of those backyard brawls, but one of those styles of fight that were tremendous. This country has forgotten about those things. That's where it all starts. We don't see fist fights no more in your neighborhood growing up. No, you said you saw one on Highland the other day. I wasn't there, but yeah, some guy filmed it. But I saw that shit growing up in neighborhood, you know, in my neighborhood, when you left school at three, somebody said tonight behind the high school, Kenny Ellis fighting this fucking guy. And you went, you got some beers, you got a couple

fucking joints, and you sat out at eight o'clock, and you saw two white guys beat the fuck out of each other. And then they stopped when somebody's nose got broken or somebody's tooth fell out, and everybody got up and hugged them. We all walked away. Well, I think you hit the nail on the head earlier when you talked about sort of what people are willing to do, and that this is just another hustle. And I think that in a way, all of our documentaries have kind of been like these twisted paint on the American dream. People who just, you know, we all wake up in the morning to figure out how are we going to get ours? How are we going to support ourselves or our families? And some people obviously had different opportunities

than others, or some people are willing to do, you know, they're willing to skirt the law. They're willing to get into a 12 by 12 ring and participate in what some people have said is pantomount to human cock fighting or dog fighting. And the truth is, you know, none of us get to choose who our parents are. You know, we're born, and we got to play the hand we're dealt. And some people make good decisions. Some people make bad ones, you know, but we just all like, I always say, I'm a white dude in America. I was born on second base, man. You know, at least on first, you know, so, but some people aren't even born in the park, let alone the dugout. You know, they never get a chance at that in this country, you know, and people watch this footage in this movie, and they

say, Bill, this doesn't even look like America looks like the third world. And I said, it is the third world. It's Miami Dade County. It's, you know, we are the third world. You're a beautiful fucking man, Billy, for even going down. I'm, I'm watching them and I'm going, what, what is Billy thinking standing around with his little camera right now with two of his buddies and a sound guy. And there's 80 black guys that'll fucking slice his neck at any minute. They could just take him out of there and beat him up and bury you under the fucking ring. You know, Billy, what gave you the idea to do this? What, what was the first thing that inspired you to do dogfight? Well, we have a, you know, an alt weekly down here called the Miami New Times who had covered it.

And we all knew about Kimbo. Like you said, you saw Kimbo, you know, online and on TV way back when. And, but what we didn't know is that somebody had kind of, you know, the Dada 5000, this guy, Daphir Harris had kind of picked up, taken up the mantle and started to organize these backyard brawls. And as soon as we heard about him and his family, we wanted to tell that story. And I got to tell you, I was with the exception of maybe one occasion where a, a fight outside the ring broke out. I was never scared in West Broad. We always felt it was always very warm and welcoming and it was like a block party the whole thing. And we had, we had the best food ever, the best barbecue, the best fried catfish, the best seafood rice. I mean, everything was like,

the way all the neighbors came out and turned into like a cottage industry for the, for the block, you know, for the community. And, and I, I don't know, I, I just, I think also because we did cocaine cowboys and we did the, you know, for ESPN 30 for 30 and broke. So a lot of folks like, well, like respected us in our work and we're excited that we were just there telling a story of a neighborhood that I think is mostly ignored and neglected by the media and even by the representatives and leaders and politicians. First of all, that neighbor is my type of neighborhood. If you want me to lie to you, this neighborhood where I live in and people walk by exercising and they're all fucking white. I had to put a sign in front of my house the other

day. I got a camera. If I see a dog shit in my yard, I'm going to shoot you and the fucking dog and shove the shit back up your ass. Somebody took it down after three hours. But that's my point. They walk around, they got, they got, they got every opportunity to have class, but then they have no fucking class. They hide behind their color and their BMW and think like, you think they have class, but you know, it's like when I see, I live two blocks away from the train station. Okay. I see a BMW on my block or like a nice Mustang on my block. So this guy paid 500 a month for the car, but he don't want to go for an extra 10 for the parking spot. I scratch his fucking car. That's it. He'll never come to my fucking neighbor again. I hate those motherfuckers.

You know, they got no class. They got no fucking year to buy a BMW and park in front of my fucking house and walk three blocks a safe $10. Go fuck your mother. You fucking miserable fuck. That neighborhood, when I walk into that neighborhood where you tape that fight at, guess what, bitch? I know where the fuck I stand. You know, those people, that's what this country used to be about block parties. We've forgotten. That's just a block party with a fist fight. That's all that is. That's a block party with a fist fight. The neighbors get involved. There's rice. There's food. There was kids there. They're throwing a fucking Frisbee. The sun's out. That's a fucking neighborhood. And I have to say at the time, unfortunately, it's not true anymore.

But at the time, you also saw, I think, some really exceptional community policing. You know, you saw the police dealing with people, you know, on a realistic level on, you know, on the ground that, you know, not the way that lawmakers in Washington, D.C. or in Pallahassee here in Florida, you know, our capital, think that people, you know, that criminals and lawbreakers should be dealt with, but the reality of understanding the culture of a community and the police feel right. You know, in a neighborhood racked with crime, with drug dealing, with violence, they would suddenly be out on a Saturday afternoon and it was quiet on the streets. People weren't out. People weren't selling drugs on the corner. People weren't shooting each other

or robbing stores. Where were they? They were in the backyard watching a fight. And yeah, maybe they were smoking weed and doing some gambling and some betting, but the only violence occurring in the neighborhood during those hours was between two consenting adults in that 12x12 ring and the police had listened. You know, for as much as we can, you know, we'll have, but we had plausible deniability. We don't know what's going on in this private backyard with a chaining fence and the blue tarp up. If someone obviously calls 911, they'll do their job and they'll come out and do their thing. But why would they shut it down? Why would they, well, they do want tear gas over the fence and then like push everybody out of the backyard

under the street. That's just going to escalate a situation that doesn't need it. So for a while, the police handled that neighborhood with, I think, exemplary community policing. And again, unfortunately, the fights aren't going on anymore and you have police basically arresting every black kid who's got a, you know, a nickel bag, you know, for no reason at all and completely destroying their lives and putting them into the, into the system. We have a real problem here, you know, in, in America, I mean, what, you know, black people are what, 13, 18% of the population and white and black people use marijuana at exactly the same rate. And yet it's three times more likely to be arrested for a minor pot crime or pot possession.

If you're black in America, in Miami Dade County, you're six times more likely to be arrested for, for marijuana if you're black in this county, which is crazy. It's crazy. Back to something you said before that. Right now, three quarters, well, if this was Joe Rogan's show, three quarters of the people because they're the smart, intelligent kind of whatever the fuck they're thinking this week. But an intelligent somebody from, and I hate to say it, somebody like from Kansas or somebody from a decent state that's listening to you about that's exemplary, exemplary police work would sit there and go, what's he talking about? They're breaking the law at all levels. But that's what the

problem is. You can't arrest everybody. And there's a story behind the crime. When I was a kid, I got in trouble every fucking 10 days, Billy. But when the cops got there, they listened to the story. You know, if you walk into a house, right, if you if I if I get a 911 call, all right, for domestic violence. And I show up at Lee's and I see his little Spanish girlfriend on the floor with a black eye. I got to take Lee in, you know, but if I get to your house, and Lee's got a stab wound, and she's got a missing tooth, and there's drugs everywhere. And this is the eighth call in three years. I'm just wasting my time. I'm really wasting they're gonna this is what they do. This is what they do. They drug up, they fuck, then they stab each other. What am I going to this is

what they do. This is their interpretation of love. This is not domestic violence. This is loving their fucking world. I'm going to break them up. She's going to do more drugs. He's going to OD, and then they're both going to die for no fucking reason. I go home, listen, I clean them up and make sure that there's no knives around. Got no guns. No. All right, I'm leaving. I'm gonna go home. Keep fucking keep eating that drink that vodka and there's couples like that. Whatever. I'm just but in most white America's world, they're breaking the law. See, in my world, there's a black and white as a cop. A cop's got to show up and analyze the situation. I have the people that get arrested shouldn't get fucking arrested in this country. Half of them. Half of them. Listen, hear them out.

Anything here? It's two people having a misunderstanding. Let's fucking write them up. Let's give them a warning. Let's let them get the fuck out of it. Right. And Billy, how much do you think in that area like they police themselves? Because like Joey said, you probably walked in there with $100,000 worth of equipment. But if someone stole from you, that would make them look bad. And then you're trying to highlight the area. So I would bet you probably had less of an issue in a quote unquote bad neighborhood. Going in, we didn't know what to expect. So we took certain insurance measures, you know, in terms of the safety of the crew, our equipment, what to do in the event of a police

raid, what to do in the event that stocks rang out. We didn't know. But after the first event, it seemed perfectly cool and calm. And I really credit Dada with that. He was an anchor. He was a force for good. And not only in the backyard, but in that community. And people just didn't want to fuck up and act a fool with Dada around, you know, what you didn't want to, I call him the mayor of West Berine. Nobody wanted to deal with that kind of pressure, as Dada would say. And so we just felt safe. And like you said, the fighters are there doing this to get noticed, to get discovered, to make a name, to hopefully create more opportunities for themselves. Again, for better or worse, I'm not kind of condoning these life decisions, but the decisions

then we're making, these fights were happening whether we were there or not. And so I think they were just appreciative that like as they called us quote unquote, the cocaine cowboys guys, you know, came into their community and were noticing these young men and what they were, what they, you know, and literally they're fighting, trying to fight their way out through a better life for themselves and their families. It was a good film. You did good, man. You know, you, you know, those type of documentaries is bringing something to the forefront. And I should, and a good documentary should rub your stomach a little way. And like, there was parts of that thing. And I was like,

what the fuck's Billy doing? But then all the pieces came together, you know, like, I'm like, what the fuck? And I liked that about you. You have a great eye, Billy. You're, you're very good at what the fuck you do, man. I don't know what I'm doing, but you do. I just get you. I'm flying off of your league, cocksucker. What's next in the rack of tool world? Next up, we've got some really great dock projects that unfortunately I can't talk about yet, but we are working on the script for the dramatic pilot and adaptation of cocaine cowboys, our documentary from 06. So we're finally moving ahead on, on that. And it's, it's looking, it's looking real good. We hope to hope to be shooting

that no later than next year. You know, I'm a Cuban, I'm a Cuban drug dealer on the series. So don't forget about me. Y'all are buying your method while I still don't have to see this, huh? Really? I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hire you to go back to Cuba with me so I could say hello to my sister. For everybody who's listening, I applied for my passport on Friday with an attorney. No way. And hopefully we get it. I'm taking my wife and the baby to fucking Cuba to meet my sister and the rest of those motherfuckers. I'm also going to exhume my dad's body. When I'm there, I'm going to try to resume it. So I got a half a mill. Well, I should have gotten a half a million 66 from Prudential, the rock insurance, but my dad's death certificate was

never signed. So it'll be 50 years of interest of half a million dollars. What do you think, Billy? Can I sign you a piece and you come to Cuba with me and we'll, we'll fucking dig up me seeing my sister and the whole fucking deal. We'll uncover the truth about my mother, about her stabbing the guy when she was 16 and killing them and come, they're probably still got a warrant offer. I'm in for 10%. Fuck you, 10% cock sucker. That's amazing. I've been wanting to go, I've been wanting to go my whole life, but certainly since they, they opened it up earlier this year. I think that's outstanding that you, that you're going. I hope that all works out. I'd love to go with you. I really do, but I can't wait to see my sister. I can't wait

to see the look on her face. I got cousins and fucking uncles and, you know, my uncle, my cousins are the national Cuban band. They're the touring band, Emmy Alfonso and Echie Alfonso, Ex Alfonso. That's what they do. It's the other side of my family. That's the valve desert. That's my mom's side of the family, but my dad's side of the Diaz is there and come away. So I'm really thinking of shooting this, going back and seeing it from my eyes. And I don't know how I'm going to do it. I hate the fire. I like to do it rough, you know, Billy, like on a boat, like a 12 man boat. We all go back there with the cameras and see the raps floating, the unmanned raps floating at like the 50 mile. They say it like the 50 mile point. You see like deflated pieces of rubber and milk

containers and wood from fucking raps and boats that didn't make it. Oh no. Yeah, it's fucking really eerie, they say. You know, have you interviewed one of those people, Billy, who did the raft trip? I haven't interviewed them on camera, but obviously you're in Miami long enough. You meet people who came here by by any means necessary. And what have they said to you? Have you spoken to them at all in detail when they tell you the story of that journey that was 90 miles? Jesus fucking Christ. There's a cab driver in Vegas. Your stories of people who did make it, who were on board with dead people, you know, with people who didn't make it. And I mean, there's just horrible stories and tragic stories about what people were willing to do to get to this country. All the more reason

we should make this country the best we can make it because, you know, these people believe, believe in this place and they both and they're willing to risk their lives and the lives of their families to get here, which is a pretty powerful statement about America. It really is my brother. No, Billy, I really like dogfight and I really wanted to talk to you. When you were in town, I didn't get to see you last time. I know you did Rogans. I know you're busy as fuck when you come in, but hopefully I'll be down there before the end of the year. I'll give you a little hug. How's the girlfriend doing? You'll certainly be in Miami when the Cuban government deport you. They ain't fucking deporting me, guy, right? I'm walking into that

island. I'm telling them all to suck my dick. I'm personal friends with friends with friends, okay? The first person to take a chuba chew on Cuba. You think they'll fucking deport me when I get there? Well, I will say that if they do fillate you, Castro's mouth would be much like a vagina, I would think, with teeth, though. No, they're not going to fuck. Because of that beard, you know? He's too old. They're not going to fucking do nothing to me, man. That's it. We put them off the terrorist list. Cubans aren't terrorists no more, so I think it's time to get my fucking passport. I'm not going to Canada. They're not going to let me into Canada. If I get the passport, I want to go to England. I want to go to maybe Hong Kong and eat some

twice-cooked pork and that's it. Go to Cuba. What do you think? Maybe go to Israel and go down to the wall and leave a note. The Promised Land. The Promised Land. So you got some shit going on, Billy? I'm happy you had time to call in today, brother. No, it was a great fucking film, Billy. You did it again. I thought we're broke. You busted the fucking bank, but no, you came back strong. You're like Led Zeppelin in the 70s. Every album keeps getting better and better, you know what I'm saying? Thank you. Thank you for inviting me. I love to call in at any time I can. You know that. I miss you. And you tweeted something two days ago, Jesus Christ. It's this shit. That's the fucking TV show, Billy. 24 hours in Miami, like CSI, Miami or something, but you just

those stories that you fucking print up every day. That's a TV show. This shit cannot be happening. And it seems like it only happens in Florida. Florida has this fucking Martian population and they infect everybody else with a touch of something. These people act weirder than fucking weird. What was the one from two days ago, Billy? Billy, two days ago you had something that I had to fucking take my glasses off on the computer. I can't remember what the fuck it is now. Oh shit. I don't even remember. I posted so many. I mean, there's the woman who called 911 because her pot dealer took her money and gave her the weed. No. We had... And I love when you put that police pictures up. I don't like that. Booking photos.

There was 10 women who were arrested at a strip club because they gave like illegal lap dances to undercover cops, which is ridiculous. Illegal lap dances. Yeah, they can't have contact. There's very specific ordinances governing lap dances. So the police, with all their resources, did an undercover lap dance sting at a strip club and arrested 10 girls. Now every city in Florida has different strip club rules, correct? Every individual municipality in the whole state. Like what I could do for a lot of them, I might not be able to do in Miami.

Oh dude, what you can do in Miami, you can't do in Miami Beach right over the bridge. So what do you mean? What can you do in Miami that you can't do in Miami Beach? Oh, great. So in Miami Beach, they have a law. This goes back, you know, almost 100 years to the beginning of Miami Beach, which just turned 100 this year. In Miami Beach, you can have a topless bar that serves full liquor, but if you go full nude, you can't serve liquor. That's everywhere though. That's a ridiculous... No, that's not everywhere. In Miami, you could full nude, full liquor bar.

Really? Absolutely. Oh, I didn't know that. I know like out here, if they're nude, in Colorado, if they're nude, you can't drink. It's gotta be BYOB. Oh yeah, LA, you got like the pasties or whatever. Right. What are my fucking 10? I want to see a chicken pasties on a pussy. I go there. I want to see that fucking clip. Was it the iguana clogging the toilet? Did that freak you out? I was just looking at his Twitter. There was this lady finding an iguana in her toilet. Yeah, I can't deal with that. That scares the shit out of me.

That's one of my worst fears. In New York, possums were coming up and rats and the fire department would come over and put a net, like a steel net in between the toilet seat and the toilet. And they'd lift up the toilet seat and they would shoot it right through the fucking thing or stab it with a fucking knife. Tremendous, tremendous. Billy Corbin, I love you, Coxsucker. Good luck and I'll see you in a few months. We'll call you again and we'll talk some politics in Miami. When are you running for mayor?

He hung up already, that fuck. Let me give him some shout outs and we'll get the fuck out of here. See, folks, I'm turning into something. This is the way a podcast should be, a little conversation with me and Lee, a little chit chat with a good fucking guest, and we're out of here. How about you? How about you? The king of autism. How you doing, Coxsucker? Brandon Cruz. What's happening? AKA Johnny Arch. I love your Burbank 108. 818. Get healthy, Coxsucker. You've been away. I don't see. I got other people parking down on the block. Andrews Ortiz. You got a new church member there. Congratulations on your son or daughter. I saw the picture on Twitter. Very beautiful.

God bless you. T-Bone, get it together. Charlie Powerhouse, you bad motherfucker. And Jesus Sheddlesworth. You know, Uncle Joey's here for you. You know what I'm saying? What's up with you, Coxsucker? What do you got planned for the weekend? I don't know what we got planned this weekend. Oh, Paula got a scholarship. So she's going on Saturday night with her. She's bringing her mom. She only could bring one person. So she's going to bring her mom. So I have Saturday night to myself, but we're going to go get dinner on Sunday. Beautiful. Yeah, it's going to be fun. So they come to the store with Uncle Joey. Perfect. Got 10.45. They come out. You jump up and down.

But it was really, it really fucked up me last night that I realized, yeah, my father was big in my life. You know, I feel bad for my father. I really fucking do. Why do you feel bad for your father? My real father was a really good guy, man. You know, in all the conversations I had about him, there was just some of the bottom. He was very generous. You know, we didn't pay for my mother's wake because the funeral director, he had helped out when he first came from Cuba, he brought him Christmas presents for his sons and his daughters. My father was a decent guy. And he just fucking died. A weird death. And my mother, my uncle, who I hate, it's everybody. My uncle and me even stopped talking. We haven't

spoken since Christmas Eve. He says that he even said that my dad was a good guy. He goes, I don't know what he's doing, your mom. Even he said, I couldn't see the correlation. He was a big, good looking Cuban white dude. And he had personality, he dressed nice and shit. And he worked hard. And you know, he had his faults. You know, he did some drugs and that's where he died from. But I couldn't imagine being him. Like, I was looking at that picture of mercy last night and I was thinking to myself, my last three minutes on this earth, what would I think about? You know, I'm laying on a bed or on a floor hit by a bullet or I'm having a heart attack. What are you thinking about? You know, and I know that from my conversations with people,

I was, my dad was thinking about, I mean, we were that tight. I changed his life. My mom said he was out of his mind until you came along. He was always with you. You know, I have no memories of what he looked like or anything. But I do remember driving in a car with him, like him. Really? In a steering wheel, me being a steering wheel. You know, I remember that in Cuba. No. In a Cadillac. Yeah, I remember all that. I saw the pictures of his Cadillacs in Cuba and it's just weird. And I've always felt that he's watched over me really tight. Like I've always really believed that in my heart and in my soul. A lot of times I'm indecisive and I'll get a thought to my mind or something. And I've always really believed that,

you know, at times. So you talk about what you think might have happened if your mom had survived. How do you think your life would have been different if he had survived? Well, he was a businessman. You know, he was making a lot of money. And he was opening up Cuban restaurants and sandwich places. And I don't know. But I know I wouldn't have walked around with this thing on my back. You know, I wouldn't have walked around. You know, I talk about being allergic to peanuts. How you have a jacket on your back. When a parent dies in an early age, you don't have a jacket on your back like being a snitch or being a fag or having one foot or something. You have this thing inside of you that you're missing something as a child, you know.

I forgot that conversation with Mercedita, her name. But I do know that it didn't give me as much pleasure in doing shit as a child because everybody else had a dad and I didn't. And don't get me wrong. I had a lot of love. I had my godfather would take me to the movies on Sundays and had friends of my moms and my mom's, you know, couples that treated me like just like I was a son. But there was always something missing, you know. And just when I was starting to figure, you know, my mom remarried. And I guess I put stock into one as a dad. And I neglected not, yeah, maybe neglected thinking about my dad. He was gone. But then as I got older, I started thinking about him and what he wanted from me, what I heard from my mom. And I think him and my mom wanted me to be,

they just wanted me to be happy and to do something with my life, which I did. You know, I didn't do what they wanted. They wanted me to go to the service and be a fucking attorney and shit. But I ended up doing something with my life, which is big for me in my world. You know, I can't believe, I can't believe it. I can't believe I ended up doing something with my life. Don't get me right at all. At all. 20 years ago, I was still saying to myself, I can't believe I didn't do anything with my life. Well, now I got an occupation, you know, and I did something with my life and I feel okay about it, you know. That's going to be crazy going back to Cuba. Are you even thinking about it all yet? Are you just

No, I've been talking to a friend of mine, Ivan Salivary. He was a UFC fighter and Ivan's been trying to get me to take care of my paperwork in Seattle, so I'd go back. But I spoke to Ivan last week. It's just too much work. It's too much work for the bang. So why don't we just eliminate the Seattle warrant and just go for the fucking passport? They turn us down for the passport, then we have a fucking problem. But I finally got an attorney. I got a company in Wilshire that you pay them and they do all the legwork for you and everything. Oh, cool. So I finally made the fucking jump. You know, I was very indecisive for a while. Canada, I don't know what's going to happen. I got to put that's my next move. Let's just get the fucking passport and

let's see where we where we need to attack, you know, right? But I'm really happy that I fell asleep last night and I got up and I had that brain fart because now I kind of have an intro from my book, you know, what what is the point of the intro? Like what do you want to get out of it? I want to let people know where I was when I, you know, where my mind was like I would read like I did Nick Swanson's movie, you know, the one that got the porn one, right? Yeah, the one, the porn one and Don Johnson was in it. And about a month after that, his wife had a baby or his girlfriend had a baby and I sat there one day like how selfish is this to have a child at 54 or 55, you know, as a man. But then you it happened to me, you know, and when it happened,

I it's something that it was an accident. Like it wasn't me and Terry weren't planning on having a child. So it wasn't like I was being selfish from the jump. But then I started thinking about my doubts, you know, and that's what the book is about. The intro is about the doubts I had and how I ended up being me, you know. I didn't have a dad, but I still made it. I still did something with my life. You know, I didn't have a mom, but I still persevered. You know, I really wanted to get Darren Cardon and we can't keep because Darren Carter is an orphan. He was raised in Sacramento in an orphanage. Oh, wow. And he's a great guy. He turned out great. And I really want to have him on to talk about his experiences in the orphanage and how the doubts he had grown up,

whether the same doubts I had grown up, you know, I had and then after 15, I had more doubts. After my mother died, you have these doubts about deciding who you are and why this happened to you. How can you not when you're that young? That's the question you asked yourself. And that was where the anger comes from for a long time. That's why I wanted to shoot somebody. That's why my head was on limbo because you can't figure out where this comes from. You're raised. You're raised Jewish. You go to temple. I don't know what the fuck they tell you in temple. Jesus was a millionaire and he bought land. I don't know what the fuck they tell you, you know, it's pretty much the gist of it. But in church, they tell you that there's a God and

he created you and blah, blah, blah, blah, and there's seven sacraments. And this is me at this age. This is why I turned to first for the answers, because I didn't have the answers. So will you turn to you turn to your God who created everybody or who they fucking told you made everything? And guess what? He got no answers. He don't take collect calls. He's got no fucking. He don't take collect calls, God. So there you are sitting there thinking to yourself, what the fuck? You know, how do you figure this out? So you get pissed off at God first. So you get pissed off at whoever your God is, you know, they took away the most important thing in your life. Who do you get pissed at? When somebody runs over your grandmother as she's coming out of

rouse, that's one thing. You go to jail and send him hate mail. But when your mom dies in natural causes, you can't figure it out, you know, and why this happens to you. I have a friend that his dad died three years ago. He calls me once a week. In fact, let me tell you an interesting story. I got an email from Gary the other day, a friend of mine, Gary Harman, I grew up with. Gary was whose family I stayed with when I was in the lamb and 82 and Sarasota when I went to see Road Warrior every day. He fucking just called me out of the blue. That's crazy. And we hadn't spoken about two or three years and he still lives in Sarasota. He hasn't seen Mr. T. You know, I asked him, you bump into T and he goes, no, I haven't. But the beauty of it is that we,

he said to me, I really gotta tell you something, man, my dad passed. He went through a hard time and he passed about a year and a half ago. Excuse me. And he says that not one day he doesn't think about me because he says as a grown adult, he has this pain. He's 52 like me. He says he has this pain of missing his father and how he didn't do the right thing in front of his father for a long time. And he goes that he thinks about me how hard it must have been for me. So he called me, he lost my number also. He went online and emailed me on the webpage and said that he wanted to know how I did it those years and how hard was it for me. And I don't think it was hard because I was like you. I was focused on, you know, my mom first died. I was focused on what did you say

before? I was selfish. You're a kid. You're focused on singing. You're dicks up and playing basketball and smoking pot. Let's get it. So that was the conversation. And I really have thought about that with Gary. I'm very fortunate because I still talk to those friends and they give me like a slight reminder from time to time that what happened. And I like thinking about it for like a minute, but I take my mind out of that right away because I don't want to lurk there. That's why the book has been hard for me at times because as times I go there, the main important thing for me when writing this book would be the period of what happened after my mom died. To me, I still want to tap into what my mindset was those seven or eight years

before I went to prison. I would really love to present it to you people to show you what the fuck I was thinking about and where I came back from. Like I know people come to me after shows and they go, Joey, you know what, man, I did this and this and this. I'm really having a hard time. I don't even know where the fuck to start. I don't know where I started either. I just know I had a desire not to be at that place. Is it is part of the issue you're having though, is that you always you say that a lot that when you're having thoughts, you don't like you stop yourself from thinking about it. Do you think maybe you have to let yourself go there? Like kind of like sure. Sure, you have to. You have to. And it hurts sometimes, but you have to go to

that area and sit down. And sometimes I'll put a song on from that time to really take me there. That sets it off really? Yeah, sometimes something from that time will set it off for me. The other day I was in the car with the Aussie's Boneyard and I heard a Sabbath play Sabbath and that takes me back to that time. It sparks that little anger I had at that time. It wasn't the pain as much as the anger. It wasn't the confusion as much as the anger. You know, after somebody dies, you have this big hunk of confusion. It's just fucking it's a bad dream that doesn't shut off. And there's a part in your mind where you're like, I'm going to shut this motherfucker off, get up, go brush my teeth, have breakfast and move on with my life. This dream is getting out of fucking control right now.

But it's not a fucking dream. It's your life. It's so surreal that it feels like a fucking dream that you're living through it. It's so surreal when you're walking the steps and, you know, making funeral arrangements and talking to your friends about her life and what your next move is. And this has to be with everybody. This is why when somebody passes and they post on Facebook or something, I always write something now. I always because I wish somebody would have wrote something to me in those days. There was no manual. There was no YouTube. Especially at 15. At 15, there was no nothing. There was nobody I could turn to. I only knew one person, Regina Gordon, who her mother died and she was my age. And I could see that she was a wild card. So I knew that

or eventually I'd become a wild card. I was always wild. But this was going to fucking just make me even crazier. Were you wild before your dad passed away? Well, I was three. So because it's just we were speaking with Steve about how like, you don't know what's going to affect kids. And it just if you were that close with your dad, like do you ever think maybe like that? Oh, but your anger comes from? Oh, sure. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Sure. And issues of abandonment, you know, like I get pissed off sometimes, like at certain things with Terry, when Terry goes home, I get a little my feelings get hurts and times that might be issues. Sometimes when I leave, my feet, you know, but at least I'm big enough. I've known this for years.

You know, sure. My mom said that for years. Every time the door would open, I would stop when I was doing a look at the door, whether it was at the bar or at the house that fucking killed me when I was older. Yeah. You know, because I would read the it always he always interested me. The people that I grew up around were always dear friends with him. Like the really people who kind of took care of me growing up were really good friends of them. They weren't the best people. They weren't the best quality of people. But they had something that I had for them. They passed it on their heart. You know, you know, I was talking to a random guy. I'm writing a script with about a kind of thing named Tati. Tati was a 24 seven bad guy

that had grown up with Manolo. He had grown up with my dad. He was just, you know, he was a murderer. He took drugs and people and shot him and had no remorse. And he was fucking nuts. But he loved me in a way he had no sons. So in his eyes, he was my son, you know, when I was in the sixth grade, he gave me coke one time in a capsule when he went to get me a haircut. He used to take me to the city to get haircuts. Yeah, when I was like in the sixth and seventh grade. And he told me once I was he was I saw that skinny girl by the house to your day. You ain't her pussy yet. And I didn't know what to say. I'm like, no, how old were you? I'm like 11 or 12. And he gave me like this fucking capsule filled with cocaine. And he's like next time you

she comes over, eat her pussy with this cocaine. I'm like, how crazy is this? I had that little capsule in the back of my drawer, hit by him like a notebook. So it wouldn't roll out when you open the drawer. Oh, wow. And one day, my mom came in like a phone and she's like, daddy just fucking told me that he gave you a little bit of coke for fucking to put on a girl's pussy. And you took it. What the fuck is wrong with you? Give me that right now. And I'm like, I don't have it. What you do when I threw it away? I had it. I never fucking I think I remember. I think I gave that hysterical. But that he wasn't, you know, Rodolfo Castrillon, the guy in Miami that raised me. Rodolfo was a great guy. He was type of Manolo, but Rodolfo brought it.

Rodolfo went to fucking jail for murder. He brought it, bro. These were friends of my father's that my mother honored after my dad died, you know, like she's she couldn't not call him back. They wanted to have contact with me. They wanted to give me money. They wanted to be there for me. You know, so these people he lived in my life, I learned a lot from, you know, it was this guy, Pepe Goho. Goho means that you have a limp. You know, Pepe was a friend of my dad's in Cuba and he came back and he used to date this woman Dean at my mom's bar and he ended up knocking her up and they had a kid together. And Pepe and I were tight growing up. Pepe and me, I was there when Aunt Karen hit the homerun 715 program. I was like a little boy at

his house. I still remember him having a daughter. If I'm 52, the daughter's got to be 49, maybe 48, 47. I was a few years older. Okay. You know, I remember being at the house with him. I used to, he taught me how to shoot a gun when I was a kid. He taught me how to play baseball. Pepe was a big healthy guy. And one day, him and my mom got into an argument over me. But I gave Pepe a hard time and Pepe pushed me. And I went home and told my mom. My mom called Pepe and went off on him and I knew Pepe's mom. I knew the wife, the daughter. You know, my mom was friends with him. And after my mom died, one day I was walking down Bender Street and the horn blew and it was Pepe. And he goes, how you doing? You thought I forgot about you. I'm here to give you some money. I'm just giving

my two grand and he gave me his number in Miami and then I lost contact with him. But he had good friends, man. They cared about me. They were just from a different cut. There were no fucking reverends or preachers. No, but that doesn't, I mean, that's kind of what you're talking about with Billy, how people like white people really don't understand. Not even just white, but just people like that. People like my parents. But I was leaving here, I think it was yesterday. And it's not the worst street, but it's like a lower middle class street. But these little kids were out in front of their house and they didn't have a lawn. It's just all cement. But the mom was spraying hoses at them and they're just having the best time.

And it just, it really, I don't know if it's because I really stoned or what, but it really stuck with me how... Simplicity. Simplicity. You know, that neighborhood and dog fight is a neighborhood that has no opportunity really. Like I said, I'm surprised the cops were even there. Usually the neighborhood, those cops don't go in there. But when you saw the cops stand there, they knew exactly what was going on, what everybody stood. And that's what I like about those neighborhoods. You know where you stand. And my neighborhood, it's a great neighborhood, but people don't pick up dog shit. So it ain't that fucking great in there because somebody in the neighborhood got a terrible fucking character. It's all over the place. So these people have a

nice dog, have nice houses, and they just don't pick up their shit. You know why I don't get a doggie? Why? Because I'd be damned if I had a Ben Doe with a plastic glove pick a shit up and talk to somebody as I'm throwing that away with that warm shit in my hand. And not because shit goes right through the fucking baggie. I don't care. In my world, you don't touch shit, okay? Yeah. I don't even like wiping my ass and getting a little shit on my finger. I stop what I'm doing and I steam bath my fucking finger, okay? That's how I don't like shit. So that's why I don't get a dog. You people want to know that's why I ain't picking up fucking dog shit, okay? There's no way of my Ben Doe with a baggie of that hot steamy shit. I will puke my fucking breakfast up right

there. So let's avoid this right now. The cat litter boxes, they're in fucking cat litter. And it ends up looking like a health bar, like one of those fucking granola bars. And I look the other way and they shit in the middle of the night. It's like they shit fresh and it's steamy with those peanuts, those peanuts on top. And I got to pick it up and it's still stinking. It's not. Me picking up fresh shit with a baggie is not happening in my fucking lifetime. You understand me? I'll come back on an island when it's nice and cool and it's hardened. Out those little heart, those little stick, those little shits that freeze up. I'll pick those up and throw them at you. I don't give a fuck. I've done that before. When shit's hard, I'll pick

that shit up and put it under your door handle. So when you open up the door handle, you get shit on your fingers. I've done that a thousand times. The motherfucker's on my block. I think they're fucking cute. But as far as, you know, they take like they park and they take like four feet in front of them and four behind them. Really? You're going to take two spots. Here you go. Here's a piece of cat shit for your freshman cat with a factory. And you see him out in the car. And that one, once you break a piece of shit, listen, shit stinks. But you don't know what stink is that you break that motherfucking hat. That's when those inner gases come out of there and shit. Forget about it. Do you sit there and like wait for them? No, I make belief through

the window. I'll set them up. You know what? Once I put cat shit in their door handle, they will never park in that fucking block again. So they got to drive home with that shitty hand. Are you fucking kidding me? It's like you with that little Jew finger, the little Pontius pilot finger you had the other day. Are you kidding me? You got to drive home with that shitty hand, smelling the cat shit, or they got to go into Denny's. But guess what? That cat shit's going to smell the whole fucking way home. So remember who the fuck Uncle Joey is for the rest of their life. Let's give a shout out to some moms that rep this motherfucker. Not this weekend, but next weekend, I'll be a wise guys live in Utah Salt Lake City. Don't fuck around. Okay. And the week after that,

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And today was a good day Left my niggas house paid, picked up a girl been trying to fuck sister 12 It's great, it's ironic, I had the booze, she had the chronic The Lakers beat the Super Son, I felt on the big fat fanny Pulled out the jammy and killed the poor nanny And my dick runs deep, so deep, so deep, put her ass to sleep Woke her up around one, she didn't hesitate To call Ice Cube the top gun Glory took the bat and I'm coasting Took another sip of the potion, hit the three wheel motion

I was glad everything had worked out Dropped her ass off and then chugged out Today was like one of those fly dreams Didn't even see a berry flashing those high beams No helicopter looking for a murder To win the morning, got the fat burger Even saw the lights of the new year blimp And it went Ice Cube's up in Drunk as hell but no throwing up Halfway home and my page is still blowing up Today I didn't even have to use my AK I gotta say it was a good day Hey wait, wait a minute, Poo, stop this shit. What the fuck I'm thinking about?