Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #369 - Herb Dean

Episode Date: April 7, 2016

Herb Dean, Professional MMA referee for promotions such as the UFC and Bellator, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: ScoreBig - When you go to ScoreBig.com, click on the microphone and enter code: JOEY. to get $20 off of your first order.   Headspace: Go to headspace.com/joey and download the Free Headspace App and start your Take10 10 day free trial .   Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout.   Recorded live on 04/06/2016.


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There you go. What one two one two. Oh shit. It's Wednesday bitches Little shout out to Bobby Sharon sending me a Street songs by Rick James. Here you go motherfuckers. Oh Shit You hear those two you hear that shit I You fucking kidding me If you're not getting up fucking ripping your clothes off jumping up and down

Oh shit Oh shit. Oh shit. This is smooth right here. You're over at Biggie Smalls Club and American Gangster. Oh shit Oh shit What are you gonna do Lee we got to open up one of these clubs in Israel get these motherfuckers started It's the church of what's happening now bitches Wednesday April 6th What's going on? Oh, what's happening brother? I can't call it Herb Dean in house today. I always call your Herb Dean

It's Herb Dean Herb Dean Herb whatever the fuck I am terrible. What's going on with you Lisa? I had a great morning. I wouldn't worked out a little bit did a little work. That's great You're looking good. Give him the crab. I'm kind of the crab. I'm gonna have to stand up for the crab Sure. All right, the fuck in the crab show them what I fuck. Oh shit. Oh Shit You got to do it every once in a while. All right, these motherfuckers know who's running things. Yeah, yeah It's uh, it's like I oh I wanted to tell you I Texted mother friend who who didn't get back to me

Yeah, he didn't respond to the text but I put it out there again Well, last week we're talking about just losing touch with friends was fucking wife. No, I didn't call the wife Stop texting this fucking half a fag and call the fucking wife Explain your situation say that you don't know what's going on you've text them You didn't know if he got hit by a car and you're worried about them Then they'll tell you what's going on if she don't call you back then right Send them a fuck you letter and say go fuck yourself and your faggy friend You took my friend from me a little dirty bitch and move on with your life

How was your day tremendous, but it happily it happened so a man Listen, man a woman will tell you a man will fucking snake a woman along to the wedding date and then rules change And people have to accept it when people get married that college shit goes away That the thing is my mic is too high here my ears that that that that That you know, it's tough to stay friends when you have children a marriage a job, right? Loans you're trying to work on something got to be there to work on something If you just have a job 40 hours and a girlfriend

That you see four nights a week. What time do you have you have three nights? Those three nights you got to work out. You got to clean your apartment. You got to do laundry How much time do you have to go to a bar and hang out? You can't get drunk no more on a tuesday When I was 21 I could drink 92 beers and snort 84 lines on a tuesday and be up wednesday ready to fucking stab a motherfucker If I have a beer now on a sunday I don't recover till wednesday I don't drink Yeah, it's not as fun anymore. It's not it's not it's not as fun. You try to everybody tries to

Keep it going keep it going. Yeah, your body falls apart eventually, you know I saw somebody last night at the comedy store. I didn't recognize them I hadn't seen them in 10 years, but I didn't recognize them And they had a hot coal on their breath. You know, they never stopped drinking That's crazy. They can change someone's body. It can change how you look at everything They were swollen and nose got bigger their face got bigger You know It's whatever you can't you can't live that lifestyle forever, you know, you have a girlfriend your responsibilities

You can't go to a fucking bar And cause proud, you know, it's always the same and people don't accept it. That's it. People get busy Yeah, and yeah, I've had some friends like that. You fucking work on the weekends. Okay, you you you have a plane ride That starts on friday, right and you know come home till sunday and that's uh out of 52 weeks Let's do an estimate of 40 weeks. Yeah 45. No way 44 at least 40 to 45 weekends. He works Yeah, he's gone. So he basically has four days a week to make it happen because sundays are a wrap Sundays are wrapped you get off the plane You don't sleep in hotels like that. You don't get nine hours in a fucking hotel either. It's too warm. It's too hot to

Feel good. Ba ba ba bing ba ba bang. So you really sleep shitty one night. You recover the next No, that's that's one thing though is I can sleep just about anyway. I sleep on the planes really good I see you I see on the plane. Yeah Out right out. Yeah But still sleeping on the plane as I sleep on the fucking twilight zone. Yeah, okay So when you get home on a sunday to wash you're tired Yeah, I just want to relax. Have a good dinner. You got the girls the wife asked you 20 fucking questions You got to answer emails from the fucking weekend, you know, actually the girls no more. So i'm an empty nester

Your daughter's moved out. Really? Yeah Yeah, yeah, so uh my son he's been uh hasn't been living with me for a while He lives with his mom though and then my daughter's 19 years old. They're out Doing their thing. Yeah one they're getting really out. They're like, okay, so They live with their aunts one with her mom sister the other one lives with my sister Okay, and they're doing their thing one, you know, they're you know, she's going to school and has a job the other one just got a job and uh Trying to see if I can keep her out of trouble

That's tough. That's tough. It's tough man work job. But the point is that you have four days You have four days to make it her happen every week. You don't have seven like most people you have four here So you have four workouts You probably have obligations. Yeah, I got my projects You know, you know your little things going on and then somebody wants to call you two in the afternoon and do lunch Yeah, I got I got It's right in the middle of my fucking day once I do lunch After lunch, what do you want to do you want to take a fucking nap?

So these are the things you get busy Well, I hear you joey talking a lot about oh I actually can do some work on the road because you don't have some of those distractions Do you get some of that done on the road? What is your day like herb on the road? Before the fights because the fight day is pretty much all day. But if you're there a day or so early, right? So, yeah, you're actually right. Sometimes I do I am able to get some of that work You know, sometimes I just sit in the hotel room. I go through the emails and through the emails I do scheduling stuff. I do work. I'm supposed to do you know that I that I don't want to do at home

So, yeah, actually it's good for it. Sometimes I do the same. I I I bring a computer with me. That's not a great computer. So I don't trust it To do something tremendously large on it. I trust it to Tweet maybe facebook and maybe check my messages I don't fuck with that lit lift in there when I write. I don't fuck with it in there Because for some reason something goes wrong and I'm fucked But when I go, yeah, I got three four hours in the hotel room to sit in right comedy You know, if I'm thinking of a tv show and I'm writing it, I'll do it then I like all that stuff

Tell you where else I stretch out. Believe it or not on a plane Those long flights I couldn't fucking prepare though. I got everything in that bag Everything I need, you know, I'm saying everything. I'll bring the sides with me to go over if I have no audition Now so you can you can um, you can work well on the plane I'll throw that computer on and check messages and I'll go on the plane with a project Every time I go on a flight longer than three hours. I know I'm not gonna sleep So I have a project But if I got on the plane and fucking rocky is on, you know creed that throws my plan off like the last flight

I got on on the way back. I usually don't plan nothing because I'm far from the night before Yeah, so no me on on the plane. I can't work on the plane I try sometimes I bring it every now and then I'm able to get a little bit in But I can probably get in about 20 minutes here 20 minutes there as soon as I start concentrating on a plane It puts me asleep I had a friend whose dad was a consultant and went to europe like back and forth from Boston to europe every week and he said that was the only time he got work done because you know what we call him

On this on on the best writing you do And that's what works for me. I get high on a plane Like before I got on the plane I get pre-stoned. I eat an edible I eat the breakfast I focus And then I take the notebook out and I leave it open I take the thing out. I leave the notebook open With a pen and I watch whatever's going on when I play music And I let the music or whatever I'm watching dictate what I'm writing

Do you are you with no, no, okay? Now sometimes I'll get a joke sometimes Let's say I got to write a letter to Phil Foley I'll write on the plane, you know My buddy's in college He's doing some time at the college somewhere. So I have to write them letters In fact, I own one, you know, I plan all those things Do you have like a different style or a different band for age activity like this comedy one music is writing another music is No, I just put an album

And I'll listen to you know, listen man. We get I love music I love music, you know, I was trying to push a music show But music is very tough to sell We live in an age that right now if I'm driving and I go Doug, what was the last time you heard of Rita Franklin? What was the song we played last week? I forgot all about that song. We played a rita franklin last week Uh, I'm blanking on the name fucking song from 71 just tremendous I hadn't heard it since my mother had the barns fucking hard

Right, you know, I hadn't heard that song. I mean I was driving with my wife and I heard it on serious In today's world. What song is it? Let me look it up Oh, you gotta hear this fucking here. This is this is a rita Yeah, but you know something. Yeah, you're right. If you're doing creative stuff, you can yeah on the plane is a good time Sometimes I get so caught up in the In the music that I realize how brilliant the music I'm listening to is

And how much effort they had to put into this music That that inspires me. Yeah, like I started thinking about how rock steady Go ahead. Put it on. That's a great song. Listen to this shit. What was the last time you heard this song This is just a fucking amazing song Come on I get tears. I get this will never happen again. This will never happen again ever I could see her just the way she's singing opposite the beat that's what's killing uh listen to her

I'm feeling She's riding a little bit to the back. Yeah, but she's right next to the back. Yeah, and then she drops on the rita franklin right here All right, I'm on the plane listening to this and I'm thinking listen how sick my mind is people I Want to learn where you got the balls to come up with this. Okay I cry I want to know I want to know where the fuck you got the balls So I think of the black composer who put this together Right because that's all the rita franklin worked at. This is funk

Do you think it's a dude that looked like Uh, like this she never she never worked with the swampers. Well, you know, I'm just thinking to myself like who Came up like who come up to a rita franklin. Was there some dude that looked like, uh Uh Puff Glasses or was it some bad black motherfucker that came into studio with alcohol his mom fucking brand. He just said rita. Give me a second And she's like I ain't got time for this. He's like listen. You gotta hear this fuck. I came up with and he just started with this

Bass that that's what I think about who created this bass line. It wasn't some fucking genius Aretha franklin wrote it. Yeah. Oh, no, no According to some dude she plays for the same plate on it Let me look for it. You know that dude came in and said rita Listen to this motherfucking shit. I got here So I was I was just in uh, Memphis not too long ago. So I went to the stacks museum. You ever go to that? No Oh, you have to go to the stacks museum. So it's uh stacks records, right? You know stacks. Yeah, yeah Okay, now I know what you're saying. Okay. So stacks records. So basically, you know, it's uh more southern soul

So there's like Motown out of Detroit and then there's Memphis stacks Man, it's man. If you're ever in Memphis, you got to go now. Who came who was on the stacks? Okay, so I think rita franklin did some stuff on there for not sure exactly but I think she did but um, definitely isaac haze Uh sam and dave odys redding Uh, you know booker t in the mgs That's it. Yeah, I said isaac haze a few other people. So all that stuff was on stacks And it's a you know, it was a little it it was a it's definitely interesting You learn a lot. So they did that whole uh, oh, who was those girls the

The next something the nets no those girls who uh, they they did that song they did songs with earth wind and fire earth wind and fire Was uh, was out of there came out of there. Yeah But they did songs with earth wind and fire And they uh, they did that big concert down in watts after the riots a watt stacks It's a lot of stuff to learn about in that uh museum All that stuff's they there's a documentary on mussel shows Uh, i'm netflix and I saw a part of it one on the plane That was pretty interesting about what bands have gone through mussel shows now. Did rita they were doing anything with them

I think so because there's something on there look for a rita And i think dwayne allman listen to this shit. Yeah, this is to this shit Somebody sent me this on twitter last week and I I had never known this existed and I fucking it sounds great a rita franklin's tremendous So yeah, this is when the rita, you know, we're fucking dwayne allman. How do you get that combination together? Oh, yeah And then shook my hand It's called the weight

So, yeah, there's just uh So much music history that there is to be like if you I would plan a trip around mussel shows Really? Yeah, my wife would go my wife would do in a heartbeat with the baby. She would do in a fucking heartbeat That's more of an education Just going through and sniffing that fucking air. Are you kidding me? So do they have a museum or anything like that down there that shows about yeah about the studio? I'm not sure. I'm not sure what goes on down there. Is that an Alabama?

Yes The stones were there like just a lot of people went in there. You want to smell those motherfuckers You want to copy store that's that's rich a prior stage Just breathing that air does something to you know, it does something So you were saying like that the music show was difficult to pitch Since the music is so great like what what is so difficult so many copyright companies so many different So when you have an album, it's not about the album. It's the different writers on every song So all I need is one writer on one song to say I don't want my song on that fucking at the show

And I can't do the album on the show But the beauty of it is that we live in a society now where if I could listen to that song I could go on my thing and i'm serious. It says the song and the whom did it So I'll say rock steady and they'll read the franklin at the next light I could go on my iphone go to itunes and buy the fucking song Okay, and not really get the essence of the album Right, you know every album has an essence That's that's not gonna do it a lot later. So sometimes in my morning like in the morning's people

I twit songs out. That's all great joey, but you're not doing nothing for me Because to really get the full experience of that song you got to see what comes before and after when I tune When I play a song It's like me giving you the scene from the godfather when he shoots fucking the guy at the table Michael Corleone goes to Sicily. You can't watch a movie like that. An album is a fucking movie And and the bands like again, and you guys are gonna go fuck you joey. You're an old fuck I'm telling you that these bands listen to the thought process they had into the covers There's also a thought process on how

The music comes up how they want you to hear it What they want you to hear before that song and after that fucking song And and pig floyd definitely did as we heard today. Well, that's a concept. They concept. They just you know, they They filled it together. I've always felt that You know, uh, I heard a fucking great song this morning. You guys are gonna laugh at me What's the chick that won't miss america and they stopped it for me and buzzy She was married to rick fox in the lake is come on the fucking guys Running back to you

Baby do the good things all the good love that shan't tell you that's a William Vanessa Williams Vanessa Williams put an album out in 1991 Right somebody gave it to me Like somebody gave me Vanessa Williams. I always thought Vanessa was just fucking beautiful I just love that. That's what cuba movement looks like when they're mixed like that. I got that malata blood I love all that shit. They do that's what you call them molados. That's what they call in cuba. That's a mohele mulata That's what they call So I put the fucking cd in the car out of all the music

I like Vanessa Williams album. I don't know what And it said album that had running back to you and uh Yeah, you know, I might go revisit Uh, I do remember she had One thing about that album was It was all themed That album was a concept like she wrote about love But whatever she was singing about in that fucking album or revenge or freedom

You know pat benton talk crimes of passion. Listen to that fucking album. Listen to that side one That's planned to that the last song is a song you hate. That was for children Remember you hate that's the last song on the album, you know, which album was cool. Uh, the marvin gay was I want you on it What's it? I think oh Listen to the best. Yes. Yes, then you go back like I just went and listen to that album Um, we had a couple weeks on a plane on a plane, you know, I bought it before I don't have time You don't have time in normal life So what I do on a plane is I go to youtube I put the speaker in and I listen to a whole out

And I go wow that was fucking tremendous something we have forgotten in this country Listen to the whole album. Well, now there's not thought now. It's all about money. You got eight songs That's why this chick has a song every six weeks. She sucks a dick Uh, the skinny blonde with the fucking disease. What's in there? Is it uh, that's I want to say Taylor, but it's uh Taylor dane. Whatever Taylor Swift Taylor Swift. Yeah, you know, yeah, whatever the fuck you gotta assume. She's got a disease She's always skinny and pale and she got soys on the lips. She's got something You know what I'm saying? She blew on those dirty fucking actors or something. I never knew that he's brute I never knew that albums were like an entire

Theme or I thought it was just songs put together because they they like the songs I didn't so if you listen to like the songs that we listened to before on periscope Does it is it different for you if you only listen to one song versus the whole album. Do you feel different? Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, and there's music like the stones The stones did location fucking music So the stones will call each other and go eight. It's time for another album boys. So what do you want to do? I don't know. Let's do it. Well, let's go down to jamaica and hang out with p detache And we'll hang out down there smoked up. We'll rent the house and we'll fucking do an album down there

So it's the feeling that they were thinking during those eight songs Yeah, if you if you're a real music guru when you go back You'll find out that sometimes they'll put seven songs together and they had two songs in the previous album That the company will make them put on there for filler or something like that But the essence of those seven songs you'll feel you'll see what songs don't belong there You'll and you know whose point he did it beautifully marvin gay when marvin gay released. I want you That was a piece of fucking marvin gay. That'll never that was the best marvin gay So all those songs in that album, that's the best marvin gay. Oh, yeah

I mean the better marvin gay was the one after the one before that I think. Oh, no Sexual feeling whatever that was after I think uh before that before that was like, you know stuff like the ecology, right? Right. Yeah, uh, I'll tell you who else did a lot of Albums that if you listen to we get cheated the youth of today gets cheated Stevie Wonder Stevie wanted to put listen Stevie wanted to put out four songs Four albums in motown towards the end of motown that they're like pink floyd's strength

Ending with songs in the key of life in seven six ending with a double album Okay, so if you don't buy those albums whole and listen to them, you know, there's just some people judas priest uh British steel Judas priest British steel is a fucking phenomenal album You know breaking the law the other one then one goes into the other one metal gods It's fucking brilliant. Does it matter if you don't like a song on an album like let's say it's your favorite album

But one song you just hate will you still listen to it or do or does it affect your opinion of the album or not really? Uh, no, no, no, listen man. You're not listen when I put an album out not all the jokes You're gonna like not all the fucking jokes. All right, you know, I don't like all the goddamn jokes So uh, but there's gonna be six to seven jokes that you're gonna go Oh, I get this now He was talking about this as a theme when I'm trying to write it now. I'm uh, first thing I gotta write on a piece of papers What am I trying to say? What am I trying to say with this album if you watch the 70s on cnn

Uh Motown was putting out a particular sound for years and fucking Your boy went in there and said listen I'll fucking put it out now, but I don't I don't want to use the band brothers no more. I want to use I don't want four brothers behind me fucking Jigging it up. I don't want that I want to tell you what's in my heart. He put that song out about the war Marvin Gaye. Yeah. What's the first one there? That uh, what's it? It's uh, no, no, it's the uh, not mercy. Mercy. What's going on? What's going on and that broke the bank

That broke the bank that that that invaded thought, you know, he spoke about the war on all this shit Stevie Wonder went into Motown and said hey I want to do what he's doing. I don't want none of this shit little Stevie Wonder. I'm a girl fucking man. I've eaten pussy I've smoked dope. I'm just blind. That's it. But let me do it my way and he did his four albums You know, that's you know, they wanted to break out of the mold that was their mold for them and by that time who cared Michael Jackson was about to fucking sizzle a goddamn fucking world anyway in 1971 So and he broke the bank with that first album ABC what I want you back and all that shit But we don't do that no more

We're so accustomed to serious I'm I listen man. I'm the first guy that fought in the car. I have serious on there and I fucking love it I got this go 54. I got groove channel 50, which is That medium range. I got metal shit. I got Ozzy's boneyard and I got lithium I'm good to go lithium a sound guard and allison chains that era And uh, and I listened to some individual songs Speaking of music, I I would be slipping if I didn't tell you my son just put out an EP. It's on bandcamp. Are you serious? Yeah, Al Tadino hotel

It's uh, he's doing all the guitar on it mainly and it's uh, it's kind of like an indie pop thing It's good stuff though, man, man. He can He writes good music The band is Al Tadino hotel. That's a complete different fucking gift right music and Doing all that type of shit I don't know how he comes up with this stuff like he'll teach me some of his songs Like how did you think of that? Yeah, how did you put that together? You know? It was very interesting

I only before the show you were speaking about the show vinyl and I've only I only saw the first episode but it was they were talking about Uh, the main manager had one of his first clients was an african a black client Who he like screwed out of like they made him go under like a pseudo name and they wouldn't let him record the songs He wanted to record right they made him play little jimmy little so they made him play like, you know body holly But this motherfucker could shred a guitar and play blues Right, so now he comes back into that now. He's a manager He became a manager of a fucking punk band

But they fired two of the punk rockers and they can't come up with a song And in one scene this guy fucking goes give me the fucking guitar The white dude goes what the black dude goes give me the fucking guitar He takes that stratocaster from him and he goes a b e e b i whatever a b e These chords have lit the world on fire and he starts playing Every song that's those three chords Like every song that's been written with those three chords He goes this is how it starts and he's singing all of them and all of a sudden he just goes into this blue song

And it rips the room apart and he puts the guitar down He goes figure it the fuck out and he walks out of the room kick comes upstairs and goes, hey man All those songs you did in e b i Those are somebody else's songs But that last song who wrote that And that's how that that's so now he's only coming to his own because The guy's badass

Right and they beat him up or something. They beat him up. They beat him up They're the mafia beat him up because they own the record label So they wanted him to be little jimmy black little some dude who just sang with four black guys Want to do that He wants to do fucking bb king type shit, you know, so yeah three chords. You probably talking about gcd, huh something something e b f a D And he keeps saying this is it. This is how you write a fucking song. Okay All that of this shit. Don't care. I think

Because here he goes and he starts playing And it was like 20 songs 20 songs He just kept going kept going This is it. This is the way you write a fucking song I would love to be able to write a fucking song one song. I would die. I don't I don't even have the heart I don't even know where they come up with those lyrics. I don't have no idea where people come up with those lyrics We were listening to Leonard skin at the other day

Whiskey bottle brand new car oak tree. You're in my way Who does that who does that too much co and too much mo Look what's going on inside you. Who writes that who that smell Can't you smell that smell the smell that surrounds you? Who writes that who writes that that's something that you think about people. Look at this fucking junk He's like kill himself and sure. Yeah, that's what he's writing about his song his brother crashing the fucking car Who comes up with these lyrics who sits there and goes who the fuck sits there the other day I was in the car I was brought up brought to so much emotion. I was listening to the white dude

He's from Detroit, michigan on the low Okay, oh, I know you're talking about oh bobsieger bobsieger. Yeah. Yeah. What was that dude thinking? Listen to that jam. Oh, yeah, that's a hard way on the road. Are you fucking kidding me? He had to be writing this on a bus sitting there going on the road again. Here I am Yeah playing the star again. Are you fucking turn the page turn the page? Are you fucking kidding me? Who writes that type of shit that I could never do that I'm blown away by the by the music because like lyrics I can I speak English, but just that's no Yeah, but think about it like that's to make all those instruments sound like that

It's mind-blowing. I can't I try I tried for one summer to play guitar But my fingers were just too short and too Uncoordinated I couldn't do it But it's that like that's the part that I can't that just blows my mind Like the especially bass recently you really like guitar every time you put a song with like good bass on I don't know why I just I just sit there with stone and think just thinking about how someone could even Like because with words you can think about putting words together I can't imagine putting notes together and then putting the guitar with the drums with the with the organ

Whatever they have but when you put the words together you got to put notes together too. You know what's music is mma You putting the band the fucking you put new jujitsu wrestling everything together. It all comes together at some fucking point, man It's really crazy how music an art is an art is an art. Well to me what's crazy about is how How these how these sounds and these rhythms and these notes Bring a motion from your body and make you want to bring your move your body to them You know, I mean and that's a universal thing. I think that that blows me away. I saw this crazy video was a So they had dementia and they couldn't talk this is an old lady and a nurse sang church hymns And she came out of him and just started singing

It was it was it blew my mind It's crazy like like there's no reason baby should dance like babies don't know what music is exactly Exactly right like does mercy like any specific songs now like everything. Yeah, it's just day one. She's been moving moving and grooving It's a man. Yeah, you're right when she was a kid. She loved the little legs would go off and And now she dances. I catch a dancing by herself and shit, you know If it is the expression of it's it's I love it. I don't know what I'd do it. That's that's the way you could Instead of throwing me in prison. Just go you can't hear music no more. I would die

So you you you you heard you did write a music show an idea, huh for music I tried it was just not a music show It was like a Concept where I take a musician and we go to a record store and pick an album that that made him fucking wanna Everybody has an album that made you want to jump out of window You know, everybody everybody has that one or two albums that you go especially when you talk to your musician When you talk to a slash And go, can I talk to you? What do you like and he'll tell you albums that influence them

And you're like, I get it now I get it, you know, he liked aerosmith. So what do you think he's gonna play aerosmith plus which is what guns and roses is Aerosmith on fucking steroids. That's all they were aerosmith on steroids. They just blew up aerosmith You know, they had that aerosmith dirt dirty fucking feel to them So you ask, you know, when we listen to chris cornell I guarantee And this is what I'm having a conversation with chris cornell. Not that I know I'm just saying this is what I'm having a conversation with chris cornell

If I walk into chris cornell And I take him to a record store One of the top three albums I guarantee he's gonna take is something from the Beatles Okay, I hear the Beatles and his music. So I know he's gonna take the wide album or uh The one with tomorrow never comes that crazy album when they first started fucking around with drugs Yeah, there is a lot of Beatles up in there and you know, I also hear a lot of and all that stuff from up there was uh A lot of black Sabbath a lot of black Sabbath. I guarantee all those walk especially again Kim sial, I did see an interview one time

Where he said when the first time he heard shielding the grave his head almost blew up And that's what made him turn the cords around You know, all those guys and all those great guitar players will tell you that they did some to have that sound You know, uh We were talking about this tony. I owe me from black Sabbath. His fingers got cut off in a sheet metal accident That's why whenever you see pictures of tony. I owe me. He's always covering his hand Get go to you go to Google pick go go to yahoo and go pictures of tony. I owe me. He's always covering his hand

Because he lost his fingertips. So it's the right hand or the left hand one of those so for him to play the guitar He had to put special caps on his fingers. So he couldn't get the chords So we got to turn the chords upside down or put bass chords on his guitar That's what creates that sound with black Sabbath so See he only showed to see the picture he has the the pentagram and the whole thing he has like fingertips right, okay In the earlier pictures, see he would never show his hands

In the early early. I owe me pictures. He never showed his hands And that's why his guitar is so fucking different because He had to turn he used bass bass strings Instead of regular guitar strings. That's why the guitar is so heavy This is very interesting. A lot of those guys they've gilmore probably did something There was somebody else why just red did something like that. He turned his guitar around or he did something weird to get that uh That thing around I want to ask you something that I mean that you went to college No, I didn't finish. No, no finish. And all your uh

Experience with the body is through just martial arts over the years. Yeah martial arts over 20 years experience Yes, yeah a lot of martial arts and you started here in LA. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I started um, I started doing martial arts with uh Frank Trejo um He was uh, we did some kickboxing. So I was a kid. I did some karate and some boxing But first time I did anything full contact was I was like in 88. I did a started kickboxing Now you were telling me that the the school that uh, enter the dragon that's still there

The school and enter the dragon where jim kelly goes in the kentpo school The btk brothers. What do they call them? They're still there. Was it you that was telling me? I don't think it was me who was telling you that they're still there, you know, it is That school's still there like and it's it's deep In angle wood. Oh, okay. Oh, so so it's a bkf school or something. It's a it's a kentpo school. Yeah. Yeah, probably a bkf school They call him something And uh, it's down there in angle wood somebody was telling me this story recently. I bet I bet it is. Yeah, because uh Did he say it was a bkf school black karate federation because they had kentpo schools? I don't know, but it's all black

I do know an angle with it. I mean, you know, you know, there's no mexican in there This isn't all black school, but that's still there. I was just wondering if you Knew those guys or now you knew my friends the the the earl white and his brother You know earl white another guy that teaches kentpo. He teaches One hop window down in uh in hollywood You know those guys. No, so I here's I went through with frank trejo I did know some of the bkf guys. I trained with some of those guys and uh Yeah, and that's how I that's how I started getting into marshals

No full contact it was through him but some of the a lot of the bkf guys came out there and trained with us uh like um Ray rizard uh ray dawgs um Who else a lot of the guys who's trained with uh, Steve mohammed Who was the one who was the main guy from there who was what steve sanders back then Because so steve mohammed. What's a bkf like? What is it from the black karate federation? That's that was just uh It was the organization was there was a lot of martial arts were all black guys

You know it was a it was a federation and they did they fight against each other or they just were like a group It was just a group and it was they they did really well in a lot of the tournaments. They did. I mean they they were Yeah, they were successful That's that's interesting. Let's go Where like where did that come from? Were they not allowed to do karate before was it was it? No, I just think I just think that it was um Like oh, yeah, not I'm not not allowed But I think that you know back in that time if black people did something

You usually had to get together with other black people to do it, you know, you know the martial arts scene really exploded during the brussely years and I had two karate teachers and both of them were vietnam vets It was kind of weird like both of them came back from vietnam and started teaching Karate or some form of martial arts or a style, you know And when I first joined karate, it was a black teacher. It was rachan's father and he's student And he it was a goju karate. It was a black fucking g

And in those days 70 percent of the school was black You know it was a couple white dudes and me and maybe you know the spanish kid or something like that But it was all black And it's weird like right now here in town. They have disciples of moses powell Okay, yeah, it's a big judo Brother big fucking heavy set black dude from the city that Developed his own style of judo. I was supposedly a fucking savage or something. Yeah, moses powell. He has a beast So uh, he has these students out here now one of them is a black dude and one of them is a vinnie caesarean

And vinnie I know vinnie from the comedy storm. What now vinnie had a school right down the corner Right on burbank boulevard on the other side of lincoln's and vinnie had a school for about two years But he got busy with movies. He had to close it and It's not that it's a black federation It was just schools that are from harlem. Yeah, they just you know, they were from uh Not low rent areas, you know Some of the guys that were uh that you know used to train and do a lot of stuff with the bkb

I mean the guy one of the guys who managed a lot of those teams that you know, they weren't all black guys But uh, yeah, it was just uh, it was a group of martial arts. I thought yeah But I think but at the same time, I mean you said you were born in cuba Yeah, but how how are you 53 53? so If you were born in the states when you were born so we our Country has changed a lot because when you were born if you were born in the states you

Black people who were born at your age had different laws governing them white people At that time at that time if you were born 1970 your age well, no not 70, but no if you're 53 So i'm 46 i was born in 70. Okay, so I have sisters who are eight and Six and eight years older than me when they were born they were born with different laws Then I was born in which way and what black people could do and what white people could do Unwritten no no written laws written laws and yeah, and then unwritten so I lived in unwritten laws So yeah, if you're doing stuff like yeah, but like That's our country has changed a lot and people don't realize how long that it wasn't really that long ago

You know that you know my sisters who were you know, it's a little bit older than me were born with different laws Do you ever think like every 64 is when it changed right? That's when they that's when they that's when they moved some of those laws on yeah Do you ever wonder like what we're gonna look back on and think about house like how backwards we like We look now back on civil rights and like well that was crazy that there were different laws And I don't I don't know what it is. Maybe it's gay marriage or I don't I don't know What's even after that that's going to be the next thing that just you never know I mean there's things that I think that um that I think about I think are just

Bizarre that they have them as laws But you never know what's gonna what it's gonna change or what are the things that we do you know Like when you when people when we used to I grew up smoking and we grew up where you could smoke everywhere But now that we've lived without it. Oh, I see what you're saying. No, no, no whole laws Yes, I thought you meant unwritten laws for black people like when I was growing up What's an unwritten law for if you saw like a black people at the pool the fuck is going on? Yeah, no, but I'm talking about written laws those were written laws in 64 I believe the laws changed in 64

Like you couldn't go here. You couldn't go there Like I thought you meant like what black people don't do and can't do like you won't see a lot of black people skiing You won't see black people playing hockey. I thought that's what you meant. You know, I remember going to Florida when I was a kid and You know, my uncle I try to break as many of those rules as I can. Yeah, you have to break those rules You know, I try to get on my white boys Fuck yeah, and uh, my uncle was a cuban dude. He wasn't racist at all nothing. I remember going to me We didn't they don't not be saying I'm not blier

Because in Miami in those days, you know, it's a hundred degrees. You wouldn't see one brother at the beach And one day we're at the beach and we saw three brothers, but they were in the shade I remember I was like seven my uncle goes Three brothers in the beach that's fucked up because they usually don't go to the beach when it's hot like this I didn't I thought that's what you meant by unwritten laws. No, I said I said laws you put in unwritten unwritten. Okay. Yeah I'm written laws. I didn't know but apps are fucking Lutley. Absolutely. Absolutely. I still remember I still remember walking with this young kid to go get James Brown records When hot pants came out my best friend

Jasper Williams and me we gave him like 50 cents and we went to get the single it was 50 cents, you know I Don't know if it was racism like we had a walk from 127th street to like a hundred and like 16th street and Broadway like we were young to do that. You know, that was that was unwritten Yeah, 11 blocks. That's on there. Like you can't do that and having a beat cop stopping us

On the way back and I always thought about it. That was like years later. I always thought about that was racism Like me walking with this black kid in the white cop stopped us and didn't take our money or nothing We were fucking six. He just wanted to know what we were doing. What was in the bags? Right, you know what I am? I never thought about that till 30 years later 30 years later that I think was that a racist thing Never thought about at that age, you know, it's so weird when you're young. You don't even know a racist. You didn't know Jasper was my friend and know if he was black. I didn't even look at that. That didn't even fucking matter to me

Years later was when I realized it. Holy shit. That's how come I know more about this music because of Jasper That's why I know about mfsb and all that early stuff because of Jasper and joe tex and memory to franklin fucking, uh, you know But it was I don't know. I didn't know nothing. I didn't care. I came from society. My mom I kept somebody but I thought years later That the reason me and him got shaken down that day was because he was black. Yeah, you never know I mean, we have a we have an amazing country. I love me. I love here and we have a lot of a Lot of diversity a lot of cool things to see. I was just in dallas

Over the weekend. I got to go to uh, well, I was in fort worth So I went to some country bars and listen to some country music. It was cool. You know, I even got a novel about the guys It's his cd He's doing some songwriting man, but yeah, you know at the end of the day like man those Stuff like that doesn't happen as much anymore. It's been years since I got dwb except for last A few few months ago with dwb driving more black Wait to get dwb there. Ah man the other I was in san francisco and I was

My friend of mine was driving and and the police pulled us over And he said well, there's something came back with your plates that said, you know, alabama. He said why live on alabama street That's why it says it in the plate And he says, okay. Well, we just thought, you know the plate is fine. We saw you pull over We thought you guys were gonna run because it was a stolen car because the guy had a bmw And I said, well, but well, why'd you run the plates to begin with? And the plates were fine. He didn't have an answer We just said as soon as you finished just let us go. I think that was a bummer of an experience, but you know, yeah, it happened

Because he didn't give him a ticket there was no law broken just ran the plates and then saw him pull over and thought They're gonna break for it Yeah, the country's changed a lot man, but not really but really. Yeah Not really But really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. I'm saying not really but really that's when you said dallas I thought you're gonna come up with a story, you know Texas is always a whiz of a story when it comes to that kind of stuff and behavior and but everywhere is you don't Hey, but the bottom line is I was I was hey, I was doing my thing. I had fun

I enjoyed myself down there in dallas and so that move I would think that their country has changed quite a bit Do you think they've had to what other generations went through? Do you think they've really changed or they've just stopped saying it out loud? No, I think I think that people generally have changed. I think that I think that our country I think that right now is the time where we have this thing where all this stuff's happened on the internet But until that was happening. I felt that our country was a lot less racist than it than it was in the past I've had I mean I've got to go and travel a lot throughout the southern from california I got to travel through this sport. I've been blessed with being able to travel to all these crazy

Pleased places throughout the world, but even through places in the in the states that I would never go to You know, I mean so like evansville, indiana or or or jasper, alabama And I've had great experiences in a lot of these places that I would have never thought was possible if I thought If I based it on what I was taught about, you know some parts of this country now, let me ask you this When you were at this country club last week this country music club, sorry country club Were there are some other brothers in there? No, no, I was the only one you were the only one You know, it's just uh I live in I don't know. I live in a 50 50

Type thing like I said to you things have changed, but not really I still feel it not towards me. I'm just I'm just saying that I feel at times like and I'm not even black and I feel to see different things and and I just It's not that I turn my face away. It's that I just what are you gonna do? What can you do? It's something that you could Jump up and down about for weeks and nobody either you get it or you don't You know, sometimes it's taught at home when you're a child Sometimes you bump into two or three your fucking idiot friends when you're 13

And influences you in an early age, but besides that, you know It's just something that uh in my world like the way I see it Do I see things like, you know, I think you just got to do your part, right? Yeah You know, I don't know. I don't know. That's what I figured was my part Like I could go to to Fort Worth and go and experience a place It's just like what I do in LA, but I would miss an opportunity to see like a whole Part that's going on in this country and I felt like I was in another country in this place in Fort Worth So I was like man. That was a cool experience

It's funny how what society perceives You know, they want Like I think sometimes And we've all heard that expression where like Julia serving for example, you know when I was a kid To my to me Julia serving was everything as soon as I saw Julius I was hooked. I liked everything about him as interviews whatever, you know, and It's weird how I had other friends in Jersey that they would say things but they like Julius

They like Julius because he was Julius. They would say all this shit Like we had to play fucking Paterson East Side or we had to play fucking nah One of the scariest things I ever saw in my life was how to play pretty basketball in Neptune, New Jersey I was never scared of black people till that dog That was real that is real I don't know about Neptune. Oh, yeah, that that shit is deep, you know, Camden. No brothers You know, and I think about places like Camden like deep deep the only problem ever I'm telling you this people 53 years old. I did time in prison

And the only fucking bad experience I've ever had when African-american was in Camden, New Jersey Camden, New Jersey, they don't play they just don't like fucking whitey They don't care if he's Cuban Arab. They just don't like white You read about over the years how the police force quit there That's a different fucking police force quit a couple years ago. There was so much fucking crime in Camden, New Jersey He says that was a kid Since that was a kid. That's the only place I've been beat Like they took my fucking money like they took it like they didn't give a fuck

That's the only place where I saw a guy in a wheelchair And the basketball player's name was Dennis still I'll never forget this from Camden, New Jersey ended up going on like fucking Notre Dame or something But in the final game, North American beat Camden when we were in grammar school And then it's still spitting that guy in the wheelchair's face You know, he was just a crazy black dude that that's it, you know, but that's the only Bad like fucking craziness experience and I've been in some fucking dark places though. I did drugs for years I did fucking time, you know

So I don't even know what my point was. I gotta stop smoking weed here But it's weird what people perceive people see Uh, who are we talking about before on fucking Terence Howard? Oh, yeah, I'm saying and they think that's the way, you know People really don't know and they don't want to know a lot of people don't know I went to ten and I went to Paducah, Kentucky a couple weeks ago. I was in a restaurant And I heard people fucking saying people things about Arabs like out loud

Just like a like out loud like some lady said to me where you guys flying in from LA and then they started talking amongst themselves In the table next to us But I don't know how people get on planes or all them Arab terrorists and shit like that Them motherfucking towel heads. I mean they were going off jack so You know You I see it. I still hear it I still you know, I'm saying I still fucking feel it from times

Hey, and I'm like I've said a thousand times. I'm racially sensitive from time to time. I say some fucked up shit Well, it's it's there's also because there's there's there's a difference. There's a difference between I think there's You know, there there are some some things then and there's stereotypes and some of them are funny and some of them are fun to be Along with but am I going to uh, am I going to are you going to Judge what what opportunities you would put for someone or how you didn't rack on it based on it? Yeah, you know, you know, so my friends might make fun of me for different things like that But that's just I think there's a difference between fun and and then making some policy on it, you know Has no one ever accused you dean of being racist in like a fight decision

I get accused of everything in a fight decision. So I can get accused of I I've been accused of everything Yeah, what like what's the weirdest one like what's like a one that just when you saw it you like, what did I tell you? I don't really remember a lot of them because most of them don't come from anybody that I that I take an opinion of like If you if you because when you say accusations, I'm thinking like maybe internet or something like that and yeah, I get accused of um Yeah, I get accused of all kinds of strange things or and and people come up with with conspiracy theories that they know are That they know to be fact is what they believe in. Yeah, so I but I don't I can't remember one off the bat You know right off the top. I hate bringing this up again. Leanna. You're gonna get mad at me

You watch uh people versus oj sims. No, okay, so I don't watch tv Well, you better start fucking I'm missing out on some good shit, huh tv versus oj simpson and what else what's the other one? What's that other one? Oh vinyl vinyl. Yeah, okay. So no, so tj versus two. I heard it's good, man Well, the thing about it showed me something. I didn't know I didn't know we know I On paper oj was fucking guilty on paper. You got to be an idiot if you don't think he's fucking guilty They did a great job defending him, but in the defense They did expose some they did expose the racism

In la pd and but at the end it's really funny at the you know, how they did it was they they they Fucking got the jewelry that on town and they got more of a black jewelry With oj and the speeches were great last night, but it was funny at the end oj's sitting and he looks up And as fucking the last juror walks how he turns around he gives him a black power fucking sign He walks out and today they said that in real life that juror was a black power guy No, wait, wait, didn't you grow up here? He grew up here. That's why uh, what were you thinking during all that? I want to know I was thinking during all that man. I guess, you know, okay the day of the verdict. It was really that bad out here

Okay, well there the verdict like nobody was at work. No. Yeah. Yeah, nobody's at work. Um, the people watching I tell you Well, I remember when I was I remember I because I you could listen to it on um You could listen to it on on the radio. You were 27 years old right somebody Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, probably like doesn't I think that's how yeah, maybe 26 25 26 Yeah, I think So wait, what do you mean? So people just tell their boss like I can't come in as oj People were in people. I think people were in bars watching it people were in fucking bars Oprah had it live. It was on fucking Times Square

Like people were stopped for the verdict like that was it like they they fucking the media turned this into something Yeah, you know, I forgot. I remember I remember. Yeah, I remember I remember I was listening to it. I and uh Yeah, it was a it was a weird thing. It was a weird thing. It was it was a weird thing because I think that Like it was it was cool to see the LAPD exposed. So, you know, because hopefully that something was going to be that uh since Since it was it was different than the way things normally go It was cool that to see the LAPD exposed and know that maybe they were going to clean it up

And I think they did I think it did there was some good done behind that, you know, say hey, you know anything that goes there It's corrupt. You can't take anything out of there, you know Well, if you're mark firman out, you know, but mark firman, I mean there's still allegations of shit With LAPD till this day. I see some fucked up shit, you know Lee's been in the car with me when I yell and scream at him Because they do some fucked up shit LAPD. Well, I have to say that the police experience around

LA area has gotten a lot better than it was when I was growing up here in LA So they there's something definitely has changed. So the way the way they police, yeah They growing up around here police were I mean it was I mean police were where yeah and all these suburbs Everywhere everywhere down LA Pasadena Out there everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, when you see the police pull you over you do not know what kind of experience you're gonna have Yeah, it's that's it was and and it's not like I don't believe it's like that anymore I've been pulled over three times

And the cop that gave me the ticket was a black cop on a motorcycle every right to give me a ticket I was talking on my phone. I was not disrespectful to him And he was not disrespectful to me the other two cops Uh, were not disrespectful at all to me. They were white You know, they let me go on a warning, you know, it was on the motor the highways And I know on fridays and Saturday nights if you speed on the highways in LA and don't drink They just let you go with a warning if you if you're legit because they don't have time to sit there with the fucking ticket So they look at you and you're not drunk. You're not drunk. Yeah, they're doing 10 over the speed limit

They'll ask you you tell them the truth tell them you're sorry They'll let you go there. There was a in two times. I didn't have my license on me. They let me go with no nothing I was that one for you because for years I drove without my license Why? Because I didn't have when I lost on a plane and it was a colorado license So I was scared to get my california license. So for two or three years, I didn't maybe four or five years I didn't have a license How did you get on planes?

An id colorado id What do you think you're doing? Some fucking novice here. You think you just You know, you think I just fell off the fucking raft It's I've only been pulled over a few times But one time it was like the first time I ever got pulled over they came around the satellite It was two cops in a car and they had the flashlights And I just it was like right when I got my license and I forgot to turn my lights on as I was leaving a convenience store

Also, but it was like it was whenever I hear Anyone talk about about not knowing what kind of experience you're gonna have with a cop It scares the shit out of me, too It scares but then it doesn't compute. I just don't understand It just doesn't make sense to me because I was lucky enough to never really have to deal with With them judging or I don't know. I don't even know what the word would be But that's crazy. Well, I think between that between the old day and the Rodney King thing and a few other things I think that they they had to come in and clean it up. I think, you know

They had to change what they were doing And uh, and I'm glad they did it's a lot better Yeah, that case is because Joe you always make uh comparisons to MMA For comedy and everything that trial. I haven't watched like the last three episodes But the though that trial reminded me of MMA because The beginning of it all they're talking about all the prosecution is talking about is how much of a slam dunk the case is How they got him how how they're gonna destroy him

And then just little by little OJ's lawyers are chipping away at it And then I got up right to the point where they did the glove And it it it almost looked like we like wander out of getting kicked gonna regret whatever any Upset like that It just seemed like oh, they were just not prepared at all for The heart a harder worker. It just it was that I I didn't know I knew he got off

But I didn't know the intricacies of the case until I started watching the show the part I wish I could have been there to see was remember do they do they do they do this in the show? Where didn't one of the um one of the guys from the prosecution Have uh, have a have heart problems and like uh back in judge Edo's changing. Yes when they doubled He was back there with the yes. I guess they seemed like they were I mean the yeah, I'm heart attack Like they were they did they did they showed the heart attack in the beginning? He they lost them and chris darden replaced them right now Did they was how did it go down was it depicted like these guys are hammering with so many questions and he's just got stressed out

They cracked that dude They cracked them. They just you know, he was a white dude He was out of his league And he ran up against the Yankees You know all that you learned from the oj thing now compared to 20 years ago That I saw in in full effect now was You can't have full fucking uh

Ronda rousey's they're gonna beat anybody You know what i'm saying? That's what they went and got. Oh, you got the all-star team. They got barry shack The other dude got whatever his name was and the other white dude. That's crazy the black dude. That's crazy Johnny cocker. Johnny cocker. They had uh, what the car get this Kardashian Kardashian, but he's a dead mute You know, he was worthless So you had him but the the geniuses and that were alan der schowitz was the alan der schowitz was the game plan but uh Who didn't ate the lane boy?

That was the the marine. He's the the sami the bull's attorney for a while. He was crazy That guy's a muscle that guy's a bully That guy was the one that they know he's the one that asked mark fermi if you've said the word nigger Have you have any goes off in court? Have you ever said the word niggers? How many times have you said the word nigger? It's like 10 questions. It's like, oh my god. Have you ever said it? When did you say it? Are you calling these people a liar? Have you ever said it? Would you ever say it and then he just go? He just form meant to them so they couldn't that dude that first white dude couldn't take it

These guys were coming in for they were coming in for the kill that that barry shack guy became a fucking savage You know, he was a dna savage They they they swayed the jury They pushed them into a different direction. It was too late They pushed mark firman so deep into an even last night He goes and then the fall of 1985 something began It began when they went up to the steps and he was beaten and all of a sudden Johnny cockney said, you know what began 1985 the first time mark firman

Was called to rocking ham and he saw a white woman running and he saw a black husband And if you read his memoirs, he says he pulled couples over all the time. So he found the two gloves. He just painted the bathroom You had eight or nine black jurors. They were oj's a hero in the black community. Yeah, listen, bro. Let me tell you something Here's the thing about oj that you don't understand Lee that he was a hero in my world He's a movie star like nobody wanted to believe it. Yeah, everybody loved and they showed that last night Even when he's shaving The jew the cop coming up to him in the jail And going so today's the big day. He goes listen. I got a friend over at the hotel

You have nothing to worry about. He was a white dude And he goes listen if I don't get to see you anymore. Can you sign this football for my son? I mean that's you know, everybody loved oj lee lee. He played football, but everybody loved him He said the right things No, he had everything he had everything go. No No, and you know, I'm a criminal So in my I had heard before that he had beat her never registered didn't care had nothing to do with my situation at the time Didn't even judge it. I wasn't there. I know that sometimes and when couples are you sick and get heated

I didn't know that he was beaten around a regular and it's also a big step to go from beating to murder The cops got called over in like 50 fucking time So this is the cops fall from day one if they would arrest them see 30 years ago lee if you and paul are going into an argument Mm-hmm And she threw a bottle at you And you grabbed her on and said paul i get a hold of yourself And the neighbor called the cop the cops would come over

When we take you to a room and when we take paul to a room paul would say you didn't hit her that she lost her mind through A glass at the wall and That she you you would you didn't hit her you just held her hand The cops would talk and they come to you and go can you do us a favor? Can you just go for a walk for an hour Just get out of the house. Yeah, you go to a hotel for the night

There's nothing happening here This was a misunderstanding against two couples lee got home late A lot of stresses on the wife. She drew a glass, but the neighbor heard it You didn't go to jail Today You go to jail lee. Yeah, that's yeah, somebody has to go to jail Yeah, that's what they say on cops because it has to because that's what happened after oj I got arrested for domestic violence

And nothing I didn't beat that woman. You know me. What would I be? It was domestic violence because me and her boyfriend thought and while we were fighting she tried to break us up And I pushed her away And that's still domestic violence And it just tripled after that. Huh, but when the cops came they took her and I in the room And she didn't know She goes did you get hurt and he goes well when I was rushing them I got pushed away who pushed you? I don't know. It could have been joey other guy. We both got arrested

Because there was something involved and that all happened because of oj Really so you think the entire legal system was changed after that? Wow Because that had to deter it Yeah, you have to deter it if it's it's a rotten relationship Let's put somebody in jail and let's make you fucking really think about this Is this what you want with your life is this piece of ass work this fucking jail? But now you're on paper So once you get in trouble with a girl with domestic violence, even if it's something that simple

You're done. You might as well break up with it Because it escalates and you're gonna keep going to jail and keep getting arrested. That's what happened to me It escalates. It keeps escalating. There's two. There's certain people that don't belong together And sometimes when anything gets physical you gotta once it gets physical you can't you gotta go That's it because it's it's only gonna get worse That was one time they're gonna promise you it's never gonna happen again. It only gets worse And if you see it coming like if you see it Yeah, you're playing with your life. Yeah, so that's what happened

So before oj you wouldn't go to jail If you didn't punch her in the fucking mouth and hit her in the stomach with a kick You're not gonna go to jail If you just argue with her and you she pushed you and you pushed her and you took the phone out of her hand or You took the luggage out of her hand You're not going to jail. You know what I'm saying now you go to fucking jail. That's terrible. It's like oj must Relive the entire thing every day. There's no way that a day goes by well when he doesn't think about not killing Whatever he did to them the trial

I figured this way. I'm a criminal I know what it is to do things to people and feel bad even if it's the simplest fucking thing Even if it was just taking $50 from them. I know exactly How bad it feels but I also know how it feels when you get away with something Is it good or bad? It's a good feeling but unless you're a fucking idiot Unless you're a fucking idiot You know, you're gonna pay for this

So your life becomes something else now they show him getting acquitted last night and he goes home And in the van he's like baby, you know, he thinks it's a year early When he gets out of jail oj they only showed 10 minutes of that last night, but it was very interesting Because it was like that kid that goes away after high school to college and comes home for Thanksgiving Back to the bar where they used to hang out at and he thinks that everybody's still there partying and shit So when he gets out of the van, he's like i'm back in what where did he live Brentwood? He's like the mayor Brentwood is back He goes this was the case of the century tonight's the party of the motherfucking century

And all of a sudden he looks up and there's a thousand people with signs murderer And that's when he starts to get it and then he goes back to his home And there's a million people that have Signs you fucking murderer you know Then he goes into his home and his family's there And i'll tell you i know exactly what it feels like to get out of jail. You feel like you're in the fucking twilight don't Like time stood still but it didn't like it stood still in your head. Yeah, and he goes in the shower when he comes out

And in the in this show last night, which is really good That's when he realized what he had done When he came out of the shower and sat down was where he broke down And his son comes in or whatever then he goes to his party Another thing he didn't know the party that he threw Was he got four hundred thousand dollars from star magazine to take pictures at the party So that's when at the party or a hundred thousand to take pictures live at the party So this is when that when he was toasting

They made him say a toast And that's from rob cadash and realized he didn't want to talk to this guy no more And he goes out to see rob cadash in but before that something happens He goes to his son. He goes make a reservation for the riviera restaurant Book of the 10 people better yet 15 the more the marry And his son comes back and he goes dad the riviera said no and he goes Why not did you talk to david david tell david this for me because i did talk to david And he said they don't want your kind in that

So when he got out of jail he thought he had a victory and he even says to to his buddy Where's marty? Where's joey? Where's tommy? And the the guy makes up excuses for all of them So he might have won But he fucking lost You know and shortly after that he moved to florida and he continued that he moved to vegas and he got involved with that So karma nabbed him I mean he got away with a double murder this wasn't

A drug deal is fucking coke stash or a box of gum you got away you threw out two double murders into the fucking universe What do you think's gonna happen? That's How long did it take? For all of that media stuff to die down? So like the case ended was it months was it weeks another year because now the year because now they interviewed The jewelry to find out what happened why they made the decisions All the little stories. Did you ever get sick of watching on tv? I wasn't well at the time. I had read about it and I

You know, I was trying to be a comic though I was living in a fucking office on top of a mexican bar in seattle Paying a shit not a window because they didn't have a bathroom in the building You know, I wasn't worried about the oj trial at the time as much as this was the show. I just started watching Because I thought it was an interesting topic and I wanted to see how they would shoot it. They really Oh, no, it's indable then maybe for you for me. Yeah, I Well, I I don't think I spent that much time watching it, you know If I I mean but the thing about it it was

It was one of those things that was hard to escape is one of those things that's on everywhere You know what I mean? It was all the radius. So, you know, you you kept abreast of it But I didn't spend a lot of time watching it. I don't you know, I didn't sit down and watch it You could see at the end That was something that I had forgotten that at the end they showed the people hearing the Verdict verdict and they showed all they split screened it and they showed all at the time the real time They took the real footage. Oh, yeah, that's right. And you could see people like going

You know, all of a sudden not guilty when he said not guilty All the black people jumped up And white people sat there like You know, and they showed packs of black people they showed crowds that were they showed crowds that were mixed The news the news are done black people jumping up and down and they showed White audiences by themselves and them like holding their heads Like fucking white women crying and shit And then they showed packs of black people fucking like going crazy like when biggie died the riot

They caused them Brooklyn when they played the limo when they play this music and shit. It was like that like so Sometimes you win but you fucking lose You know, johnny cocker and died a fucking cancer after that The other guy died a brain fucking tomb is johnny cocker and the other guy kadasin died of cancer You know, I mean It was a big fucking scam you pay for your sins You know, it was uh, it was a fucking mind. It was a wild experience for those people

The jurors they were requested for a year A year a year and it can't work I don't think has everybody in trial like that since I don't think so a fucking year When he was walking around after and that's how it ends it ends with him looking at his trophy With him looking at a statue him his bronze statue in his living room his yard He walks out but I related to the Part of getting out of prison and nothing nothing when I got out of prison. I had no, uh No reservations. I knew exactly what I was walking out to

I knew I was gonna walk out to indifference and people who are my friends weren't gonna be my friends I knew this going in I knew people who were mildly friends of mine were not gonna talk to me now The people that were friends with the drug dealer definitely didn't fucking talk to me like I had people something I'm friends with buyers the guy you robbed or whatever and they wouldn't talk to me So there's always a problem when you got out of prison. So But I did my time. I had nothing to worry about You know I'm saying he got away with fucking murder

He had a lot to worry about look at caught him three or four years later. Well, I don't want to take him to go back to prison Couple fucking years. He was out maybe five years. People are after him. I think he got set up, right? Some guys, um, I think some guys asked him to go. They told him, you know, you got some of your stuff over here We're gonna go get it back with you But I think they were recording them while their things were going on. So they they're like, okay They were like his accomplices, but they were actually recording him to turning men So I think everybody was kind of gunning from that's what I heard at least. Yeah, I saw an interesting thing today I saw and this is what my wife said

My wife said the same thing. She saw the john jones thing And she said right off the bat. He got profiled And he got pulled over. She goes trust me. My wife is white And my wife is a gentile. She knows nothing about the criminal line And my argument was lee was what was lying really? What the fuck was he doing out? Okay, that's the bottom line 1149 at night. You're married. You got two kids. What the fuck are you doing out? When you're on fucking probation You know what I'm saying with a fucking $2,000 car

You follow me You're on probation a $2,000 car a $200,000 car Whatever the fuck he was driving revving high whatever the fuck he's doing. You follow me I think five out of 10 cops will pull you over 1149 If you're revving because as I found out a week later when you rev your engine at a light that's drag racing Yeah, I didn't I didn't know that either. So today He said that he was being profiled and then a couple days later that cop has been Reprimanded for black profiling before

But well, let's get to the bottom list Why did this all happen? Because he was out of the house at 10 to 12 And you're on probation. Is he on a curfew? No, but when you're on probation, you're on an intelligence curfew because you know that anything could happen O.J. Got set up, but he knew exactly what he was going to do. Yeah. No, he knew what he was going to do No, no, no, no, no, I love O.J. I tell you right out from the heart And no, I just I just agree that the fact that everybody's kind of was was gunning for my life was setting him up Yeah, yeah, but he didn't know O.J. Was life was setting him up life gave him a big pass

All he had to do was move to florida date black women You follow me now date black women keep your mouth shut Don't let nobody take pictures of you and he would have gone away And eventually something would have happened to me would have lost a leg in a crocodile accident playing golf He would have walked back to puttna. I mean that that's Something would have happened to him. He didn't he stayed the juice everywhere everywhere. He went I think people were people were He did cocaine

He stayed the juice that drama followed him He didn't have that drama before he killed nicole. He had pussy drama before he killed nicole But he didn't have that karma drama He dated some chicks. He accused him of doing blow. He started doing tons of blow in miami He got the 33 it didn't stop you know It followed him, but it's not like today. I was thinking about something to that before I got in the shower to come down here I said, I had a good day today. I did some good things today

And I started thinking about Sometimes you have a bad day and you have a good day, but you control that good day You know, you can control your good days. Listen, if you get in your car and blows up, there's nothing you could do You could do talk. It's not your fucking fault If you get in your car right now and the battery's dead and you got a meeting at 430, that's not your fault That shit happens, you know, that's why you're driving no car. You get tune ups you know, uh If you don't pay that that ticket

on your car for 28 dollars After three months, they're gonna tell you motherfucking car They're gonna tell you motherfucking car So you're gonna go out there right now and your car's gonna be towed And you're gonna want to blame being here being with joey dears. No, no, no, no You didn't pay your fucking ticket from the beginning You knew you got to pay the ticket that'll give you a fucking warrant here You got pulled over for a speeding ticket. You don't pay the ticket. You say you're gonna go to court

You fail it to appear you get pulled over you're gonna go to jail You can't blame it on fucking lisa. I add or your wife didn't mail the ticket But that's what we always blame something. You know what I'm saying? We always blame something I love john jones. Love john jones. I'm one of his biggest fucking fans, man I love john and I he's 20 fucking six. You know what 20s mean? Then you could fuck up That's what 20s mean for me. I did time. I went for jail a kidnapping I didn't know what I got involved in for him. He went out had a couple drinks started blow hit some lady got scared and ran away That's the shit you do when you're fucking scared and there's drugs around. It's mistakes. It's called mistakes

You can't judge a person for making mistakes But don't blame everything You know, he was out of 10 to 11. Well the last one this last incident I mean, I don't know any of this. I you know, I don't really worry about him I try to not focus on that type of stuff. But the last one, you know, I wasn't there. You know, it's like I wonder how that happened You know, I wasn't there none of us were there. Yeah, but I'll tell you what dog in 36 arrest not looking your face and tell you I never spoke to a cop that way And john jones his three brothers and they've all been gentlemen every time I met them

I know they're tight with the mom and I know he wouldn't talk like well that way He wouldn't have called him a pig if the guy wasn't accusing him of son The other excuse I have for john is maybe when I got arrested and I turned myself in they told me kidnapping Like what the fuck are you talking about kidnapping? I didn't kidnap. I didn't call nobody was no ransom note I didn't know the particulars about kidnapping John jones didn't know the particulars about drag racing

He didn't know that racing your engine at the light is drag racing A lot of people don't know I didn't know I didn't know that I didn't know that all now I can see what they're doing. They're like that's how people start off drag seven out of ten cops Wouldn't give a frenchman's park Well, maybe now because there's a lot of drag racing incidents on the five they closed the five a few weeks ago on the daytime Oh, yeah, that's right But at 200,000 don't recall when the black man, you ever watch that episode of

Samford and son When he gets hit in the back with a white man by the Cadillac. He wouldn't shut the fuck up for a week Lamont kept saying but dad i'm telling you I can't move my neck I got hit by a white man in the Cadillac What's he what's fred sanford doing? He's racial profiling before there was racial profiling. It was 1975 What's his name? Not why don't I call him red fox? Sanford Sanford was racially profiling, you know, paul mooney wrote those episodes. So paul mooney wrote those. Yeah, paul mooney wrote for those

So, you know, you know, fucking a white man the Cadillac and shit it made, you know, I hit the jackpot Same fucking thing. He saw a black man the 200,000 card midnight when he pulled up. He realized it was john jones And his camera was on and you know Let this motherfucker ride but all that regardless of what he was doing anybody else was doing My argument was what the fuck were you doing on 10 to 11 in that fucking car 10 to 12? Well, I wasn't there. I don't know No, no, no, no, I'm not saying to lay a fucking opinion. Let me give some shout out to you We'll talk about this, uh

I was trying to fucking talk to you about it before I want to thank louis the kid for the animals album And the teddy bear for my daughter, you know, I love you at all my heart I love dog duar Michael gabbard brandy lin, you know, I love you jamey stanley jt Joe Kylie barns lance arm and trout cocksucker always around And Dominic sallis another bad motherfucker. I love

So I gotta give these people shout out. No, I love these mother fuckers the animals out No, the animals out and he showed up at uh He showed up at san josean told me he goes. I got you the album It's gonna take a month to get this guy's coolest shit. So he knows I love him with all my heart So the reason why I was asking about college before I'm working out was Because I was I wanted to know how you came up with this idea. So oh man, okay Wait, let's start with recovery first. Okay. We talk about recovery for When I was a kid, I got involved in lifting weights. I went from whatever to whatever

I knew nothing about nothing. I just knew that you did force five sets of six And you ate 180 protein grams of protein and you got muscles eventually Right and you kept doing that shit and you ran nobody told me I had to mix up workouts Nobody told me how to do cables. Nobody told me how to jump on tables. Nobody told me how to uh, you know Nobody told you nothing then you have you see like, uh, Sergio leave with a black dude the black Cuban you ever see him the bodybuilder When I was a kid, I saw him in west new york once as a kid and I went up to him like, oh, how do you get so muscle? And he looked at me in spanish and he goes stakes like a motherfucker

So, you know, this is it and all of a sudden we evolve and Now we have Gatorade and that's a sports drink that you drink when you're fucking thirsty and then Over the years, you know, I was telling Lee when you and I came up You went to a health food store and for 8.99 you bought a container of protein an egg and Milk protein and you put it in your milk And you put healthy syrup and an egg and wheat germ and whatever else and you mix it up and you drink it And if you did two of those you got 60 grams of protein a day you got muscles But it was 8.99 now I go to gnc and to buy protein powder

It's 80 fucking dollars with 10 off with the gold card And you know, I go to this other place for protein. It's 49 95 and protein is just all this And at the end of the fucking uh, it's like a 2 billion dollar business and all of a sudden I started losing trying to lose weight and people were saying to me. Hey, man What do you eat now after you work out? I didn't know what they were talking about And then Justin Forge is like, well you should eat some tuna with some lettuce because the lettuce will take the acid out of your muscles Whatever's in lettuce and they say that about marijuana and hash too Hash takes the acid out of your muscles

After you work out see I didn't know that about the about the lettuce or about the hash Yeah, so you hear all these you I'm just saying the Different things you hear right I'm saying like when you were talking about rules how rules have changed over the years When I was a kid you went home and you made a milkshake with 8.99 protein powder was lasting you for two months It was one fucking scoop But over the years, you know recovery the mma came along and then this time they started scientifically designing different things And then I went to a health food store one day to buy protein powder and the guy goes

What do you do? What do you kind of work out how you're doing? And I told him and he goes, you know when you do weightlifting you do an anaerobic workout So little fibers get broken. So you have to rebuild those fibers after you work out So you should really add something to your thing So I just used to go home and make a protein shake You know, but I I use this protein shake now as a substitute for a meal just to get those 30 grams No banana just straight protein. I get I keep the carbs low So now they start telling me about recovery. So I started buying this thing p.m. 360

It's a watermelon flavored not fucking bad. I like it to have it and all other flavors I just took the watermelon one day and I like how it tastes and I did it for a month You know, because I'm 53 and I want to read up, but I don't want to feel sore You know, I want to be able to do five workouts a week and you can't it's when you my eights sometimes I do four and I can feel it And another friend of mine started saying, you know, you should mix up your recoveries and all this stuff And also I'm on the phone with you one day. Okay. You tell me about recovery. So just talk to me. Okay. Yeah people at home Well, first of all, I'm like you meant I

um, you know, I've done a martial arts for a lot of my life. I didn't Really understand a lot about, uh, you know, diet or protein or anything. I was always eating horrible I just for the last few years started to pay a little bit better attention to what I eat and the things that, you know And I realized a lot of the injuries I would have gotten I wouldn't have gotten if I hadn't been if I had been hydrated, you know But uh, how this how this came about is, you know, savant young that's that's what I train with fight academy savant young one of his fights he after he rehydrated with an IV. This was a few years back And he ended up getting a Dima. He got swelling

He started retaining water and needed medical attention So he was talking to a friend of his a doctor and the doctor was telling him Hey, that's not actually the best way to rehydrate orally a whorley is the best way And here's some things you should put in there and you should make sure you have this and you have that Then he thought about go. Well, yeah, let me get a friend and he goes. Well, you know, we should make it a product This is a need for this because there's nothing really get out of the best thing out there is is is pedialyte Which is awesome for what it is is for, you know, babies after the baby's been, you know You know, throwing up and pooping or whatever, you know, the baby

Babies get dehydrated and you need something to help them out But the baby doesn't have a lot on his schedule. He doesn't have to go You know fight the next day or you know, so it's perfect for that We the needs of a depleted athlete because our athletes in our sport they cut weight And that weight cut depletes them of their water it depletes them of their electrolytes Also need other um, micronutrients other like magnesium things like that Also, they're one of the main things we've noticed is that the um Athletes have a hard time holding something down so they can't get stuff back into their system

Even after they've taken the IV their their enzymes in their stomach are not ready to Take in the food and get the most out of that food. They're taking it afterwards. So they're getting bloated That's one of the things in f2 is it has a it has things in it to reactivate the gut and get your digestive tract working again and so It is going to help you recover after that weight cut But it also helps you recover after it's great. So recovery is recovery if you're dehydrated if you need to Get the glycogen back into your muscles all these things you need However, you got that way this has it in there for you

so I use f2 when um after I work out especially after I've sweated I use it after my workouts and um I feel that I've um that I get the most out of my work I use to get those gains after that and also so I'm not wiped out like afterwards because uh A lot of times after some of my harder workouts I'm wiped out for the rest of the day If I take the if I drink the f2 I'm back in the game and I'll also get more out of my workout now when you're talking about Workout, is it a weight workout or just uh, I'll tell you do a kickboxing workout for an hour and a half Do you still do f2? Oh definitely f2 with something like that when you sweat So usually let's say if I do like because usually I rarely do a weight workout that's without any without a conditioning component to it

So if I do so most of my workouts are are cardio like I'll go for a run or I'll go do hills or if I do weights I'll do weights first and then I'll have a You know a conditioning part to it that's going to be it's going to be heavy and it's going to wipe me out So I'm I'm definitely going to have f2 after that or after a grappling workout because you know when you grapple How much how much weight if you have a nice long session one of those days where you get in a few rolls You could sweat out quite a few pounds You're definitely going to need some f2 When I sweat out a few pounds, I don't want to put them the fuck back. That's number one

But it's weird when I go over the wild birdo's But see that's what's important when you sweat out some pounds if you sweat in those pounds You need to replete yourself You need to get the water back into your system and you need to get because you're going to feel better You're going to wipe it out. It's nice. You don't you lost the pounds and it feels good But you're doing your body a disservice. You're going to feel better and also the main thing is that's how the injuries happen That's uh, you know, you get torn muscles when you're working out and you're dehydrated That's how you get the muscle tears, especially at the age we are now

And I forgive me. I don't remember if it was every athletic commission, but I think it was california didn't one of them just ban IV Okay. Yeah, the uh, oh, yes, they did and I believe that and the ufc does not use IVs at all anymore So they have uh, it's just part of their their policy. None of the athletes are allowed to use IVs So so the reasoning because I took it I'm I'm brand new into any sort of supplements or anything like that and I was honestly I was nervous just because sometimes you have something like that and it tastes Like like chemicals or something where it tasted like lemonade to me. But so when you are

Going to fighters or anything like that and saying, okay, you should since you can't use IVs use this Is is it that you is it all the whole package is it? Oh, you're gonna get replenished Because you you're only drinking 60 knots of water. You're not drinking a ton of water Well, no because well an athlete after he cuts weight He's gonna use more than one pack after my workouts I use one pack after you're doing a weight cut You would use it like you would use petalite and like the athletes usually use Uh lisa, you know a leader to two leaders. Some of the guys using two and a half three leaders

So that time I need one of these makes half a leader So they would be using a lot more than you would use after your workout But after a workout, I just use one. What do you recommend for that package? For this package how much water? Yeah makes it 16 ounces half a liter So now let's say you drink one of those like I usually do I walk in the door I put my bag down. I go right in the kitchen. I put uh 16 ounces in the water thing I fill that up. I shake it up. I go to I take the gear out dry it the knee pads the whole thing I get on jujitsu whatever workout and I write down what I learned and I write down mat time and what technique I learned

I shoot in the shower when I get out of the shower. I'm fucking thirsty again Like I'm you know that was just like an appetizer of water Do I drink another package of that or do I just drink straight water? I think I think for you after your workouts I think one packet and there's some water afterwards and this is going to make you want to drink some more water Because that's part of what it's supposed to do. It's going to help you absorb water So yeah that drink one of these packets in water now someone who's And then see how you feel, you know, uh, if you had an extremely exhausting day where you might have you know

A long day and you were dehydrated maybe two but you don't have to do two right away, you know Now an athlete after he's made weight. He's going to do two to six What about uh, what about like a baseball player because you when you're watching other sports too They always have like tom brady always has this gatorade bottle, but it's not gator I don't know. No, I don't know what it is. Is it doesn't work in game. Yeah, it's definitely going to work in the game. So like, um Like let's say even for a wrestling tournament or a jujitsu tournament, you know, you're gonna have matches throughout the day You're definitely going to take it if you're playing football, you're gonna definitely need to drink something like this at halftime You know what I mean? So uh, yeah, it definitely works during the game

And yeah, you notice the I notice the difference fast. I feel better right away Uh, let's say you have a long night out Uh, definitely drink this in the morning. Maybe drink one before you go to bed Let me ask you this when I work out and I uh Go home and I was making the mistake of drinking a protein shake. What's the difference between me drinking a protein shake? You have protein in yours. I read the pamphlet. I talked about the carbs. It's gotten yours. It's better carbs simple

Yeah, uh, it was got complex answers. So there's so there's uh from it's important to have both And how many grams of carbs in that one when I have that Because most people the everybody wants to be fucking no carbs no more Right. Yeah. Yeah, you know, and I don't have it with me exactly how many grams of carbs are in here But it's but the other thing about it is when you do When you do do take the carbs, there's other things in here. They're like like the pocolonate and things like that they're going to help You get them into your muscles right away so that they're not going and giving you a glycogen spike and

Especially having the uh simple and carb and the complex There's a few things that have been done there so that you're not the main thing that people are avoiding carbs They really don't want to have that that glycogen spike is what they don't want, you know All right, serving size Uh Calories, yeah 24 grams That's not fucking bad at all. That's perfect And and and a lot of those aren't simple and that's 24 grams. So that's not per package only per package

It should be Yeah, 24. Yeah per package And a lot of those aren't um, so eight of them are complex carbs And then 16 of them are are simple So how long did it take you to come up with this this formula and because it's I can't imagine it's a like the first mix You're like, okay, it's perfect. Okay. Yeah. So first of all, I didn't come up with it The guy who came up with it is his name is kurt hong and he's a md. The phd. He's uh went to harvard medical school

um Cellular molecular pathology at UCLA He's executive director of the center for clinical nutrition and applied health research at kech school of medicine, usc He's a nationally recognized physician and a nutrition specialist. Yeah, he wrote for the new england journal medicine He's a really smart guy um, he's the one who came up with it and he When he took on the task he did some research. He didn't just whip it out, you know from boilerplates. I mean just His students could whip something up, but he actually spent some time

Researching and and put a lot of thought into this and it took a Two and a half years and yes, it took a lot of different trial and error. The taste wasn't right It didn't mix right things like that a lot went into it It's crazy how you how many ways there are in today's society another thing that's changed How to take care of yourself, right, you know how to really Get the most of your workouts, you know Jesus christ when When I first started fucking around with this, I never knew I'd still be interested in this at the age of 50

I never thought I'd be alive the 50 never mind interested in this And I'm more interested in jujitsu than I ever was anything before like it's keeping me alive lately like it's It's the anchor in my deck, you know saying like it's a great thing. I like going over that like sweating I don't care if I suck. I'm just gonna keep going and eventually I'll get it You know in time Alberto has to give you belts He'll give you the belt But eventually it could be at the brown belt level one day I'll wake up and I go, oh, I get I gotta pull here and push there You know, whatever

It doesn't matter to me like I just I have a child and I want to be healthy for that child. It's so weird how You know, I've been stuck at a certain weight the last couple weeks But my shirts are bigger my pants are bigger. I'm doing more in jujitsu, you know When I first got there I couldn't get past the fucking warm-up So my first couple weeks was just doing the warm-up effectively Doing it to form, you know, I told Lee that the guy told me he goes For conditioning. I just don't want you to stop. I don't believe in you going over to the corner and breathing

Heavy, I don't believe in that. So this is what I want you to do. He goes instead of doing 20 fucking jumping jacks do 10 Do 10 of everything at first, but I want you just to work on the form And if you're out of breath, I still want you to get in your push-up position Just don't do push-ups. Maybe do number three Four and five and the next time we do it do number two But he goes, I just don't want you stopping, you know And all these little things helped me like today, you know, I had a carry mercy from my house to the corner today and I did it

I can never do was it like when you're doing like a farmer's walk She just didn't want to walk this morning to school. I'm like, are you fucking serious? Because my cardio shit when I first wake up and when I get real anxiety if I could do something real quick I got to move around a little bit. I had to pick her up and show me where it's 30 pounds But it's a fucked up heavy pounds and I had to walk down the fucking street with it And I kept making personal goals to myself If I make it to the tree, I'll put it down and I made it to the tree and I could still breathe. I just slowed Down a little bit but kept holding it and even though I felt like putting it down

I go if I can make it to that driveway and I made it all the way to the fucking corner and I was dead Oh my god, I started fucking sweating from every harvest for I couldn't stop my body went into shock. But you know what? Six weeks ago, I couldn't walk to the corner with it. Not even close Jiu-jitsu, right? Not even close. No breathing breathing It's not jiu-jitsu. It's how I wasn't breathing. I was holding and I still catch myself over there holding my breath

Sadly, I'm not yeah, this sad I'm going to a breathing seminar and Anthony Harduck school Okay, he's doing she's not she's a lady. Yeah, she's doing time of flex So I'm gonna go down. I've been talking to that lady for about four months now We've been talking on the phone and she gives me little exercises to do But this week I'm going to her Saturday from four to seven yet. I'm gonna go work that out I'm taking the steroids now to lower the inflammation in my nose So when I go back to the doctor, I could breathe a little better. I get this time. I'll take like a Shroom tech that's an on it product

That's a quadricep mushroom that gives you more oxygen when you're breathing Sometimes I get so much oxygen from those room texts. I got anxiety like too much fucking and you know what I'm saying like too much It's coming in I gotta try those You actually got you something. I just got the last thing and I've been I opened it up I'm not I would have brought you something. I'll get you some Quad some shroom tech sport some shroom tech immune. They're fucking good. They're really good You know if you fly the shroom tech immune is good

And if you work out the shroom tech sport is really good because it's those mushrooms that are growing up in high altitude So it prepares your body for high altitude, you know rogan explain You got to go on on and I'm terrible when it comes to that shit, man And now how can they get this how can they get the okay? So they can get the f2 fight formula at a f2 fight formula.com and you know follow us on instagram F2 fight for when you would be able to find it in there and uh, yeah You'll be able to get it f2 fight formula.com just punch it in Go to the website and you can buy it right there one flavor. Uh, it's citrus flavor. Yeah, it's like a citrus

Good What I like about it is I did not realize for me the biggest thing about this Is I didn't realize that how I'm normally depleted whether I've been working out or not just because I don't pay enough attention to my hydration or to the Getting these micronutrients in and so taking this two or three times a week after my workouts I have a general overall better feeling like everything feels better and that's what I noticed That's the biggest thing I noticed about it and it's like I feel like man It's a shame that I spent a lot of my life depleted and not taking care of myself, you know

Whenever I go for a blood test, they always say drink more water You're not drinking enough water. I think it's the fucking addable. So especially if I eat one of them at night You wake up before in the morning thirsty as fuck jack Thirsty as fuck So the rep school is sold out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, so the um, I'm gonna be doing my rep school on june 3rd 4th and 5th Uh, it's it's full. So I'm gonna be probably doing another date soon. People are reaching out to me. I'm actually gonna start uh Uh taking people for the next day. I'll probably do it in fall and during the fall usually I only do it once a year But it seems like a lot of people want to do one and also I want to keep the size of the class low because

It's just better when I work with I mean, you know, when I've worked with groups of over 20 It's too many people. So I keep it definitely under 20 right around 15 is good So I think I'm going to drop it up into two classes this year. So I'll do another one probably around october And then go to the web page. Yeah, go to herb dean.com Herb dean.com and check it out. Yeah, what do you got planned for the weekend over there? Fuck oh, I'm not sure I I'm not gonna see paul this weekend So I'm just I might go to kettlebells to eight in the morning on saturday They were they were trying to convince me to do it today and I was like eight in the morning

That's tough. But I might teach us. I think Dave. I'm pretty sure Dave does But it's uh, that's that's it. I'm gonna do that. I'm going to uh, I just did a life of neutral yesterday. Just kind of relax Yeah, what are you coming up my brother? Oh man, this weekend. I'm at home. So I'm going to relax I'm gonna have a good time and just enjoy la. It's going to be a sorority for me And then the next couple weeks the ufc kicks up again. So yeah, so yeah after this This weekend so this weekend. I'll be home then after that. I think Uh, where I go this next oh this next one. I think I go down to florida

And then after florida I come back and go to vegas from that's a temple one Yeah, that's the one that the russian the kids just fell out. Yeah, then on on the oh, he fell out Yeah, how cool we fell out. Yeah, and then on the 30th. I'm gonna go I'm either gonna go someone invited me to go down to um Trinidad to bago and refereed some fights. I really want to do that But these guys he hasn't contacted me. So I might I just got someone just invited me to go to china So I'm gonna make sure he wants me to come. I'm either going to be in trinidad or I'm going to be in china Yeah, then

Getting all those frequent fire miles. Yeah, man. I try to stay busy, you know Then sometime or another I'm going to go to korea in may. Yeah And then you got all the ufc dates and you're on everything you do the bellator. Yeah, you do whatever if somebody calls me I go and refereed. That's what I like to do. You got shit to do on people the motherfucking Yeah, that's right. It's just good to see you man. I was supposed to fly with you a couple weeks ago The last uh ufc the connor mcgregor one we were going to meet 11 30 and fly out of right. Yeah But I had to move my fly had a no addition So I had to move my flight later on and as I was moving I go fuck

I told her being I meet him at the fucking airport night. Yeah, when um, when's the next show that you're doing? Friday, I'm in santa barba with joe and tony hinch clear Friday, you guys are doing santa barba this friday and then I'm off all next week And then I'll be at the comedy store and then the two weeks after that. I'm in uh, buffalo and helium Which I dig buffalo and then I'm in indianapolis and I'm digging the anapolis So it's two good weeks back to back. All right. That sounds like fun. Yeah. I got sacramento and I got pittsburgh Oh Then I got Omaha, Nebraska, and I got philadelphia

I got the ice house. I got vegas with joe for ufc 200 and the expo I got nashville. I got new york austin columbus chicago las vegas Flock I got a hell of a schedule all the way to the end of the year when people ask you your favorite place Are you good at picking out favorites? I'm horrible at pick out people pick out ask me to pick out favorite stuff I can't can't pick out a favorite color. I always think about it. I always think about it when I go home And here's the deal that it's favorite for a certain thing Right, like, you know, that's all because I like going listen if I go to your city one time

I don't like it. I won't go back Right. I'm one of those fucking dudes. I just but I've always found the beauty where I go Like, yeah, there's always a reason that something gets me psyched up about that area Right, you know, if there's a hot dog stand in front of the hotel I just went some way where they had a hot dog stand In front of the hotel. I didn't eat any hot dogs, but it made me happy Just to know there's a motherfucking sabred hot dog stand in front of a fucking hotel charlotte Charlotte the week before the Super Bowl a sabrette stand not just a hot dog stand

But a sabrette stand, but normally just different things like buffalo I like the people and I like the fucking beef on wick sandwich Indianapolis, this is one place I went to eat that was really good a steak place They made like a six ounce filet with a nice salad fucking delicious And I like the people the people have to be the best thing about that city You know, I like the people when I go to Texas, you know And then there's places that I don't like But we all conserved that we all converse that

Like, you know what I'm saying like when you perform in Vegas I don't really have a home in Vegas, but the south point when I do the shows with joe A lot of the same people come to those shows. So it's nice seeing that me Right, right, right when I go to austin. I got a certain amount of people you see you see bobby sharon when you go to Chicago, you see the crazy dude the fucking wheelchair michael kern Shows up to all your shows. So you start having relationships with different people people who are coming and say, yeah You know that comedy, you know when I like some of these like these guys who sent you the Right like he came to san jose, okay? So that's one of the guys who come see your right brandy lin came to minneapolis

Jamie stanley came to boston and she'll come to connecticut, you know people like that. They come to different shows And you keep and you you know the people okay I mean, I think that I have great supporters and great people in the sport I have a lot of people who follow me and and support me but usually when they reach out They want something from me. None of them ever reach out to give me little gifts like this. Yeah, you know, I mean I'm gonna put I didn't do it. Well, we give each other something. Uh, we give each other something. You know what I'm saying? Like we just We give time and we talk and sometimes people email me Sometimes we talk about something that's a subject. They've been thinking about, you know, we did a podcast monday

It was just me and him people really dug it because we we spoke about breaking down different subjects I got tormented about saying I don't like fucking cartoons People got pissed off that means shit adult cartoons. I hate adult cartoons. I hate it I just hate how people get addicted to them and you're a fucking adult get out of the house If you're telling me you're at home jerking off watching porn, I get it But when I asked you what are you doing Saturday night, you're telling me to stay at home to watch the avengers or something because Uh death man is on the episode. I want to shoot you like I want to fucking shoot you as a god damn adult But that's just my own

Personal fucking taste on people, you know, sometimes just got pissed off. So But I'm happy you can I hadn't seen you in a while man Yeah, no, it's good. I want to get you back on and just talk some shit on a wednesday afternoon You know, it's nice. I like your new uh, your new digs here. It's nice. Yeah. No, we don't fuck around here This is uh, the office of debt. That's right. We got the hash bite. We got the record player You know, you can't lose in this motherfucker. I'm any fridge. That's all you need a mini fridge. I mean, uh, yeah This is as good as against brother. Thank you for coming on. Hey, thank you Shout out to my sponsors and we'll get you the fuck out of here

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