Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #379 - Alberto Crane

Episode Date: May 12, 2016

Alberto Crane, the first American to recieve a black belt from the Gracie Barra Academy and Owner of Legacy Jiu Jitsu in Burbank joins joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio.    This podcast is brought to you by: Datsusara: Go to DSgear.com and check out all of their great products, like gi's and rash guards, that are made with high quality hemp textiles   Tracker - Go to Thetracker.com and use code word "church" for 30% off of your entire order.    Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout.    Recorded live on 05/11/2016.
    

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The church of what's happening now, Lee Syat, Professor Alberto Crane, and your Uncle Joey here dropping it for Bob Marley today. Somebody hit me on Twitter, he's been dead like 36 years today or something. Wow. Kick it, Lee. Kick this meal, Lee. Oh, shit. Please let us get a little chug night shirt on tonight. Look when he's ready. All right, baby. All right, here we go. It's a beautiful day to be alive here. Professor Crane's in the studio. What's happening, little brother? How's it going? Thanks for having me. Oh, it's a pleasure. It's an honor to have you in the studio. You're one of the men of the

great BJJ world. Lee Syat, what's going on with you? I'm having a great day. It's a beautiful day out. Had a great workout this morning. It's hotter than that. Oh, yeah. I was halfway walking here on the halfway mark. I said, you know what? I left my phone at home and I go, you know what? I don't need my phone. I don't need my phone. It's such a great feeling to just go, you know what? I don't want that thing in my pocket no more. Like one day I'm just going to wake up one day and just throw that thing away. Yeah. Like that's the goal of it, just to get rid of it. My friend finally went to a flip phone. He said he was spending too much

time on the phone messing around. So, you know, whatever somebody calls you. That's it. That's all I worry about the phone is the baby and my wife. Everything else, you know, is up to... Do you get anxiety when you don't have it or not really? Not at all. Not at all. I'd rather not have the goddamn thing, you know? Oh, yeah. I've been doing it because you've always said don't have it when you work out. And it's... I notice it now when people do have it when they're working out and it's just so... When you stop using it when you're working out, it looks so out of place when you see people like texting or just doing something on their phone during a work. Are you like, what is...

What is even... You're wasting your time here. When you go like the YMCA here, when I go to the lifts and times, you know, there's people on the front and you say, why did you come here? Why did you come here? You missed the whole point of this whole hour. This hour is for you to sweat and thank and go, Jesus, I got this today and this today. But if you're on the elliptical on the phone, you're bringing all that shit into your little place. At halftime, I check my phone just for the baby. But I check it for the baby just in case they call from the daycare and my wife's in yoga. That's it. And then at the end of the class, I check it. But I only check it for the baby. Anybody else who calls me, I don't stop

and call them back. I don't give a fuck. And there's a difference between checking it. Like, I've seen people on like full-blown conversations, like on their phone on the elliptical. And that just makes me laugh. It makes me... It just gets me sad because you're missing the whole point. You're bringing your shit into where you tried to get away from everything for one hour. For one hour. You know how better you feel at the one hour? That's it. And I really like how like it's different with a class because even if like you go when you're working on, I used to do the elliptical all the time and just have like music or watching something, you're kind of... I was still too focused on it because it's like you're just working up. But in the class,

I don't focus on it at all. Nothing. You just focus on your breathing and what the hell's going on, I guess, right? Yeah. What's going on, Professor? You fought this weekend. It never ends with you. Always something. Always something. You're in San Diego choking people. You're here teaching. I went one day, you're swinging a bat in the back. You got everything. You're the man of everything. Good to have you here. You know, I've known you since 2004. This summer, we went to shoot the longest yard with Ivan and Bob Sap and Goldberg and we'd go by your school and you were a sweetheart. And then one day you popped up, I bumped into your Justin's and you're telling me how you have the school in Glendale and then Sino and I'm like, wow, this guy moves quick.

He didn't even stop. You promised me, when was that? 2004. So 12 years ago, you're like, I'm going to come into your gym and you came in. It took me 12 years. I'm going to come in. I'm telling you, I'm going to come in. And then one day, I had joined over here at V-Mac. But they had an afternoon class and I was telling Lee about it. So Lee's like, Joey, I can't do nothing in the afternoons because I sleep all day. He's an editor. He gets off work at five. So I said, Lee, why don't you go right from there to Jiu-Jitsu? Somebody's got to have a six o'clock class and you were the only guy in the area. And I called and the lady's like, who's this? And I goes, Mr. Crane there. And I don't know. And then you called me back and I'm like, my buddy wants to

do the 7am class, but he's not sure how long is it? And that's the last time I talked to you. And then I went to Flapper's one night and I saw the school had grown. Like I said, I don't go to that part of town at all. I used to go to the Cuban place up the corner. There's two Cuban places on Victory. There's the one at the end of Victory, got bells. Mamba or something? Mamba. There's the other one in the other direction behind the McDonald's. So that's the only time in Costco's around there, isn't it? So when I really wanted, like last year I was hurting Jiu-Jitsu-wise, I was like, what am I going to do with my life? I'm going to have to get out of this because I don't want to go over to Hill anymore on Wednesdays to Higgins at three hours. And Monday's I have

nothing. And one day I went with my wife to the Cuban place, Porto's, and they have the school down the corner. But they wear socks and shit, and you don't have a Monday class. You know, fuck you. I didn't want to do that. Yeah, they got socks on. I want fungus, you know what I'm saying? That's part of the package. You want to get some fucking rickshaw on your neck. So it's so weird that we ended up, you know, I ended up crossing paths with you again. And it's like my favorite thing to do now. It's like it takes me out of everything. I have a pattern now. I come home in the morning. I write at 11.15. I know I got to take an aspirin from my heart. I drink a protein shake. I don't want to die over that, Professor. So I got an aspirin from my heart. You know,

Professor Joey always says to me, dog, you can always come to the six thirties. I know you're up. I go, listen, most heart attacks happen between six and twelve. I ain't that fucking stupid. You wouldn't catch me swinging the kettlebell five, three in the morning. I got to get up of two. The swinging kettlebell, I would have to get up at two, drink a protein shake, take a shower, like have like a half a blown morning and then go pick up 45 pounds and 60 pounds and swing them. Yeah, it is different, especially like six in the morning. Oh, that's, do you do that class? I don't do well in the morning. That early when it's dark still, I don't do well. It's got to be light. It's got to be at least like, you know, eight o'clock. Yeah, it's got to, that's good.

Eight in the morning is good for me. Yeah. They do an 830 on Sundays, don't they over there? We do 830 on Sunday mornings. The guy's 9, 9 a.m. over 40 or something. Oh yeah, 8 a.m. He's like a principal, isn't he? He's a principal. He's a high school principal. Badass black belt. He's there. He's really good. Compete, smashes, wins. He's one of the guys that said, come by. But there was, I bumped into an Armenian guy one day that went to his daughter, went to school with my daughter. You know where I go to school? There's four black belts. Like my daughter, the parents, they have a 10 planet guy that trains with, who's the UFC fighter? The kickboxer. Good looking dude. I know Alan. Alan Jobin. Okay. He goes over there.

One of the guys is a black belt over there. He doesn't go to 10 planet somewhere else. One of the guys from Gracie Bar in Northbridge. There's a brown belt there. Okay. One of his kids goes in and he torments me constantly because he's a big guy and he goes, we got four big guys one year with you. You'll be a US champion. I'm like, I don't want to be a champion. You just want to be ashamed. One year in Northbridge, you'll be a champion. But there's somebody else that's like, it's so popular now that people, you bump into people, but I bumped into that principal somewhere and he's the one that said to me, hey, you got to come over and see our bird over there. So when I saw him there, he goes, you came. Yeah,

I came. How long have you had that school? Burbank. We opened up in 2011, January of 2011. So five and a half years. Five and a half years. It's beautiful. Thank you. Clean. You know, how did you get into all this? I was 18, graduated from high school. I was working at this restaurant, which is randomly, this is in Sanofen, New Mexico, where I met you, where you met me. Is it still beautiful? It's still beautiful. It's beautiful. The city different, you know, it's a little town, 60,000 people, middle, nowhere. Are the rents still high and all that? The rents are still high. Really? Because, you know, like people like to live there, but there's not a lot of opportunities. So it's beautifully. Oh, that's my favorite part of the country. Like I've given,

I've done that back and forth to East Coast three times. And I love, as soon as I hit New Mexico and Arizona, like that, like the, what was it like growing up in like the desert? Where do you just run out and like go to like all those little rocks and all that shit? You know what I love about it? Just, you know, when you spend time in LA or if you go to New York and then you go to a place like New Mexico, like it, it's like silent. The silence, you look up at the sky during the day or at night and it's just clear. No, no, it's like peaceful. For me, it gives me like peace of mind. I can't explain it, but. Well, there's a, I mean, so what, what schools are out there? Because I know in LA there's, everyone always talks about Southern California has a lot of jujitsu and MMA

schools. And I know that there's the Jackson Winkle John in New Mexico. Anything else? Well, I started, my school was the first Brazilian jujitsu school in the state of New Mexico. And so I started, I started teaching. I kind of started teaching in the 90s. You know, I went down to Brazil. So just to start over again, like, you know, some of my friends would, I was working at a restaurant and they was like, Hey, you should come and try this jujitsu stuff out. I'm like, yeah, yeah, okay. It took them like three, four months. And then I did one class and my, my buddy who's, uh, it was this light, like little skinny guy, armbar, I mean, like 10 times. And I, it was 10 times because I was like, let's go again. I couldn't believe what he just did to me and got

my arm and tap out and he did it again, did it again. And I was like, what the hell? And I just, I just got addicted. I was like, after that, after that class, this guy that originally taught it, he taught two classes a week. After that first class, I never missed until that guy moved away. And so that guy, he was in the Nate, he used to be a Navy SEAL and then he went back in. That's why he moved away. And then one of my best friends, I'm all Eastern, who's like a hands of Gracie Blackbelt. He, um, he, uh, you know, he was gone for six months and then he came back and we started training his garage every day. He runs like the Eastern training centers in Colorado. He's like he's like the biggest schools in Colorado. And, uh, we started training in his garage every day.

He started showing me all this cool stuff that he learned in Brazil. And I was like, blowing away. I was like, oh man, it's crazy. I want to go. And I was still like 18, 19, you know, maybe 19 at the time. And then he took me to a couple of tournaments out here in LA, you know, this guy named Joe Moreira. He had to put these tournaments on. And then the first Pan Am's is like in 96. I met Eddie Bravo, we're hanging out with him. He was a blue belt because it was only blue belts then. There was no like white belt, white belt tournaments, you know? And then, um, and then, uh, after that, after that, that, that, that year, I went down to Brazil for six months, saved my money up, went down to Brazil and, uh, actually came back and I was like, I want to go

again for the world's went down for a month again. I had a good job like that restaurant. Actually, I was still working at that restaurant, the Coyote Cafe downtown Santa Fe. And I was able to save up money and, you know, I work hard and save up all the money. And then mom was like, listen, if you're going to keep going back and forth, you might as well just go and stay. And so I was like, all right, sounds good to me. And so I went for a year. She's like, let's go down there for a year. Cause when she was younger, she did a exchange program in like Spain. She's a teacher. And so, uh, yeah, I went down and stayed for a year and I wasn't done yet. So I ended up staying like, like two and a half years. Now who was your teacher at the time? So, uh, I went to

Gracie Baja, you know, I went to Gracie Baja. I walked in there, I'm all he, that's where he went, you know? So Gracie Baja, Rio de Janeiro. And then, um, after that, uh, I met Jacolino. Well, I went there and I met Jacolino. And so I went to a school in Belo Horizonte that he was just starting. And it was all like whites, maybe a couple of blue belts. And when I went there, I just felt so at home. And, uh, that I was like, man, like, I want to, I want to move, when I move back to Brazil, when I actually stay and, you know, move here, this is where I want to go. Like, you know, Gracie Baja had all the black belts, had all the world champions, had the best of the best, you know, was the best school at the time. And, um, and then I was like, but I, I felt at

home at Jacolino school. And so, you know, I ended up being one of the best schools, like, in the world, just one school, because, you know, Gracie Baja and these big teams, they, they joined forces with all the schools, and they got all the best guys from all the different schools, and they joined them up. But like, Jacolino school as a whole, he had like the most world champions, you know, like the guy in Northridge, Hummel Bahal, you know, they gets one of his guys from, from Belo Horizonte, that's the city I lived in. So it was, it was, uh, there's three big cities, you know, the biggest three biggest cities, you know, there's Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo and Belo Horizonte is like third largest city. What did you do for work done, man?

So at first I saved up money. And then my mom was like, when she told me to go down there for a year, she's like, let me help you for the year, you know, and then I was like, I'm not done yet. And so, uh, you know, I tried to get a job, but then I was like, this is getting the way of my training. So I quit. And, uh, and, uh, so I ended up like racking up a $20,000 credit card bill that, uh, you know, when I came back, I started paying it off. And actually I taught English for a second, you know, for a little bit, like, but it got in the way of my training. So I stopped, but then I taught you Jitsu as a proper belt. I got, you know, I made enough of a name for myself. So Jacolino actually took me to a couple of places and I got, you know, I got hooked up with

like a teaching job and it was good. It was part of my training, which I figured, you know, teaching helps you like learn. What, does that make you nervous racking up that bill? Or were you just like, or you just knew, like, okay, I'm putting this in. I'm going to be able to pay this. Like, just to me, that, that freaks me out just thinking about, you know, I was so committed. Is this sound on? Yeah. I was so committed that, uh, it didn't matter. You know, it didn't matter. Like, this is what I wanted to do. And it didn't matter if it was $20,000 or $100,000. Like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do to the best of my ability. And that's it. I'd like that. Just look forward to what I was going

to do. I want it to be the best. And that's where I was going to do it. And that's all that mattered to me. So Draculino gave you your first black belt? Yeah. When I got my black belt in Brazil, 2001. Yeah. Yeah. And he's in New York now. He's in Houston, Texas. So the school I drive by in New York, that's a different Draculino. That's, um, no, in New York, there's, uh, there's Hanzo Gracie. Hanzo. There's Marcelo. Marcelo Garcia. There's another guy with a weird name. Shaolin. Shaolin. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I got to compete against him when I was a brown belt. He was already a three-time black belt world champion. He's a legend, you know, and, uh, or we, we, uh, the match was zero, zero. And Draculino told my, my buddies like,

if you had won, I would give him his black belt right then and there, you know, but I almost, but my grip slipped. It was a good match. Um, so he's in Houston, Texas. He has a school drive. Yes. He has a school in Houston, Texas. In the heart of Texas. So outside you go down there to visit. Uh, I went, uh, I went last year. I went last year with one of my, my main training partners, 713 or the other area code. I don't even know. 833. No, it's not 833. I think it's 731. Yeah. Yeah. 713. That's in the city limits out of the loop. It's like Webster. Webster next to the NASA. Okay. I know exactly. Yeah. He said one, three. That's great. I didn't know he was there. I thought he was in

New York. Yeah. He moved, he moved, uh, six, seven years ago. Were you scared in Brazil? Did anybody ever mess with you as an American? I mean, so my buddy, my buddy, I'm all Eastern. He's kind of a hippie, you know, or he grew up as a, he actually grew up as a hippie. Um, and, uh, so he, he, he lived, we lived on this island in Baja, Tijuca, like Gracie Baja, Baja, Tijuca. And so I had to paddle a boat, you know? And so, uh, one time, like, he's like, uh, take our bikes back to the house and start a paddle in his boat, you know, in Brazil, like the, well, and that Laguna at the time anyway, like the sewage kind of goes into the water and stuff. And so sometimes it stinks. And, uh, man, one of the, one of the times I tried the way actually it was like my

first day, first or second day, the, the current started taking me out into the ocean, you know, because that Lagoon flushes out into the ocean. And, uh, man, it took me like an hour to get back to the original spot where I started to go. Cause I never, I've never paddled the boat. Have you paddled the boat? Never. You know? So you have to like, you know, push on both sides. Yeah. And so I started pushing and it started spinning me, spinning, spinning, spinning. And there's a current and there was like these little plants, like they were catching me and I was like, oh my God. And I started, you know, I was sort of going faster and faster outside. So I started grabbing, grabbing whatever I could and pulled myself back to the original spot. I was like,

my God, he almost killed me. And there was like gunshots, like, you know, I'm shitting my pants. It was like the first week, you know, that I was there and never being like scared, not really like wanting to eat too much stuff. Like cause I was eating like crackers and stuff, cause I don't want to get sick. You know, I was like paranoid. I was a kid. I remember not bringing anything like nice clothes with me cause I was like, oh, it's a third world country, but it's like beautiful. You know, it's like, it's like here kind of, you know, in the nice areas anyway. Just when you told me the story that you just went down there. Well, when I went home, I thought about it, how you, it's a great thing that you did. It's like moving to Japan to learn

to be karate. You know, you surround yourself with it. It's a different living. You go away from your family and stuff. So basically all you have to do is train, you know? Yeah. You know, when you told me that story, I was like, that's, you know, I have to shoot a special in October. And I know that after July, I have to immerse myself with comedy. That's the only way to really improve and really get the focus of what you're doing is to just immerse yourself, you know, to live and you know, with nothing, a TV, nothing. So when you do go home, you're like, fuck it. There ain't nothing to do here. It's like, I was listening to Nate talk about how he used to train just because he knew the guys are buying a burrito afterward. You know what I'm saying? Like he had

no need at home, but if he went to the gym, they buy him a burrito from the fucking Mexican food truck or something. That's just, that's when you just go and eventually you become, you know, you go there and you're shit. You're at the end of the line and pretty much you just keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. And one day you're in the middle of the line and you keep going, keep going again and you just, and it's really hard for you to explain that to somebody in the beginning when they walk into your school as a white belt on somebody gets into comedy. It's really hard for me to communicate with them this that this is what you need to do. But it's a, I was blown away how you just went to Brazil. Yeah. I'd be scared shit. You know,

you know, Scotty from on the mat. Yes. Yeah. So, you know, he, he moved on to the house down there, but me and my buddy, I'm all he, he always says like, I'm all Eastern. I'm all Eastern. Did he fight? Do I know? Why do I know? One of his, some of his guys like Elliot Marshall. Okay. They're in Denver, right? Boulder and Boulder too. Yeah. That's what it was. So how long did you stay in Brazil total? So I lived there, you know, the last time, um, you know, almost three years that you got your black belt, black belt, actually I came back like in 2000, like beginning 2000. And then, uh,

I was a brown belt and I started like my school in Santa Fe started teaching and you know, then I had Draculino come out and do like a seminar. And then that year, 2001, I went back to Brazil and like he gave me about black belt because I was kicking butt, you know, and all the tournaments and stuff. So he's like, all right, you're good enough and almost beat that, the legend, you know, Shaolin, you know, so he's like, all right, you know, you're good enough. So that's pretty cool. Cause I was like one of the first, uh, I was the first group of black belts of his, you know, plus I was American, you know, I'm actually the, that out of that Gracie Baja on my, the first, uh, American, their first American black belt, which is something,

you know, to be pretty cool, to pretty, pretty, pretty cool. That's a tremendous honor. Yeah, no, that's a tremendous honor. So, and it, forgive me, but whatever it was, ever since Joey's, he's been going for like five months, I, I wasn't aware that you were in the UFC. I just imagined, he sounded like, I just imagined you were older. Like he just, he talks about you like with such like, like, he's so like, he has so much respect for you. And he just, every time he talks, I just imagine like a sick, like 60 years old, I have no idea why. And but like, maybe you just have great skin, but like, you know, how, like you seem like you're like 30 or 30.

So I'll be 40, I'll be 40 this, uh, this summer. Wow. Yeah. No, but I feel, I feel young, you know, I feel young. Like I asked Alan, you know, it was 70, Alan, Alan Savage, you know, I was like, hi, do you feel, how old do you feel? He's like, cause I was like, I feel like I'm like 25, you know, and he's like, we're 30, you know, the most. And he's like, yeah, I feel like I'm 25, 30. So I'm like, all right, we're good then. You know, it's so funny how you see people now, you know, I'm watching TV, ABC World News tonight, and they're talking about the end now. They have a cream now to make your skin look younger. And the whole thing with people is they try to look younger. And you're never going

to look like you did at 20, but to feel good, it's like going over by you. That's one thing, because there's so many younger people there and they show you respect and you show them respect. And when you walk off the mat, they throw you around and you're like, you're 28. It's that, the type of things that kind of keep you young, I think, you know, this baby being born at my house, it's reopening up my eyes to cartoons. You know, I was always retarded, but now that I can sit there with a much bubble guppies and shit, I have an excuse, but it's so weird how it reintroduced me. So it's not me buying $100 or $50, you know, like those people that buy, you ever go to Vegas and you're walking around Friday night and there's these

guys are like my age, but they got $200 jeans on and a tattoo and a $300 shirt and they got their head dyed and they got the earring and they're trying to be 30 and you stick out like a fucking sore thumb. You know what I'm saying? You just stick out. But if you go to jiu-jitsu, you'd stick out like a pregnant lady. Your skin's good. You're shiny. You know what I'm saying? You got a smile on your face. You got choked out that day. You ran in there. You know, it's, that's what people didn't want to do the work. Like nobody really wants to do it. Not, listen, if I hung out with 30 year olds at night and went to bars, that's not trying to be young. That's just trying to be a fucking idiot. We used to have this, because I did a couple of schools and I was involved with a

couple of schools in LA. So we had this black belt. He used to drive up from Orange County, he was a psychologist, you know? And we taught, we used to have these deep conversations. And I was like, yeah, you know, like, man, like talk about like jiu-jitsu, like you feel young when you train jiu-jitsu. And he's like, well, you know, when you, when you get older, everything is either in the past or in the future. You're never like in the, in the moment, you know? So when you train jiu-jitsu, it puts you in the moment, it puts you, you know, puts you in the present. Like when you're a kid, everything's in the now, everything's in the present. So it kind of brings you back to your childhood. I was like, wow, thought about that.

That's a good way to look at it. He was like, yeah, it brings you back to your childhood. And I think, I don't know, I don't know. That's the reason, but man, like everybody that trains jiu-jitsu, they stay young. Like they stay young. This, like to me, they're, they're young. Savage, like, I mean, he's 70, but man, he's really 70. He's really a savage. And he walked in there as a white belt. Like, like to me as a white belt. And I mean, sometimes I get there and watch the end of no geek. He's in no geek class. We put in sweatshirt. I'm unjoking people. Then he comes off, he brings a lunch with him. Like, he's a bad motherfucking lead. He brings a salad. Well, he brings a salad with him and he starts watching people in the class and then he jumps in and

starts teaching you little things, you know, and he does crazy things. What belt is he now? He's a purple, blue, blue, blue belt. Three striped blue, blue. He taught me something that I couldn't do in 90 fucking years. Okay. Okay. They get you in side control. Okay. He did the craziest thing. So he's like, grab the guy and pull yourself up. Sure. Just pull yourself up and then push the guy and go backwards and then pull him and throw him over your fucking neck. And I'm like, really, really? And he did it to me. That's the crazy thing, Lee. He fucking threw me over his head and jumped on and got me inside control. And Lee, you love it. He comes up to you. He talks to you. He helps everybody, you know, and he's bony. So he's tougher than fuck. When he puts that bone in

your fucking arm and your throat, you feel it, but it does something to you. Seeing that guy there, you feel bad. They're like, what the fuck? They're like 30 and like, I'm too old to do this shit. They see Alan, seven years old, mixing it up with everybody every single day. Now, when you, did you try that with him? Did you try to like the, he teaches you shit? No, but did you do it? Did he throw him over? Yeah, he did. He, you know, I mean, he did have to work for me, you know, but it made sense, but it was tremendous. Like I could see a 32 year old saying that to me. This is what you do. Some guy who like lives every day and does a little juice. I could see him doing one of those guerrilla moves. They pick somebody up and flips them over. He then turns around and

jumps into side control. Not a 70 year old manly. So you leave there going to fuck. I got to pick up my game. I got to do some, I got to catch up with the fucking savage. Now the training they did in Brazil when you were a blue belt has a change in this country as it evolved the training. It's evolved big time because, I mean, in the nineties, all the tournaments, everything was in Brazil. Everything was in Brazil, the world championships. And I mean, they had the pans like starting in I think 96 or 95. So everything was in Brazil. And then now, man, everything's in the US, like the world's all the major Brazilian jujitsu tournaments, you know, most of them are here in the US and all like the kind of the top guys, like top competitors, they all live here.

So really like, I mean, the US is kind of the capital of jujitsu in a way, even like SoCal. So SoCal is like the mecca, you know, the mecca of jujitsu now, because of all the guys like André Gavard, I was like, Homo Baha, like, you name it, the men's brothers, like everybody, everybody's here now. So I mean, the level of like Americans coming up is, I mean, it's really high. I mean, like the one of the kids from Northridge, Edwin Najmi, like he won the pans as his first year as a black belt. I mean, it's awesome. It's awesome. But is it like it's just the training if I was to walk into a school in Brazil, would they whip me and I'd have like a thousand Thiago Alves is throwing me around? Is it a little tougher compared to now like it has an American like

a little bit? What's what's happened like, you know, because back then back in like the I mean, probably early 2000s to like, it was it was like only the strong survived, you know, it was like, you know, as a you go in and people beat you up because where you from like, you know, it was like kind of a gang mentality in a way. And now it's like more professional, you know, to say Gracie Bahad did, you know, did a great job, like kind of leading the charge as far as like professionalizing like, like, like jujitsu schools, you know, so they've made it more professional, like, so even in Brazil, like, it's gotten a lot more professional, like worldwide, you know what I mean? It's not like it used to be like where you from, you're from Carlson Gracie team,

like we're going to smash, we're going to kill you, you know, just because you you're affiliated with him or whatever, you know, but but and now it's it's a lot, it's a lot like, it depends on the school, you know, like we went to we did like a little tour with Donnie and a bunch of the guys from the gym. We went to like, you know, we went to the to Gordo's, you know, the Gracie Bahad, checkmat and Draculinos. And like at Draculinos, there's really cool areas, really cool, really nice, but they would they would smash you and they were good too, you know what I mean? So, you know, I think I think it's the same. It's the levels pretty, pretty even, you know, it just depends on the school, you know. But back in the day, it was definitely like only this,

like only the strong survived, it was that's how it was set up. Like I remember, like if you were a black belt, like you were a black belt, if you're a blue belt, you're a blue belt, like there was no like, oh, I did enough, I did these classes and, you know, you're getting a belt, because you showed up, you know, no, no, no, no, it was completely. You're a white belt, you'd be a wiper for 20 years. And that's the Brazilian mentality of it. That's what it was, that's what it was. They didn't promote you like if you went to a competition and you did well. If you did well, yeah, if you did well, yeah. That's pretty much like that was, you know,

where you maybe assisted, there is some other ways, you know, you assisted the professor, the coach, like you contributed, you know. It's funny how you, when I joined karate early on, I mean, the teachers were kicking the stomach. You know, when I joined the American Karate Lee in 1968, I tell you that I sit here sometimes and I fucking can't believe that he was, he would make us run in the winter with a Gion. It could be 10 below fucking zero snow shoveled and we'd be running through fucking streets in New York City, not in New York State, New York City, Upper West Side with a fucking Gion. There's no rash guards in the fucking 60s. You know what I'm saying? You had a t-shirt, you know, and it got joints and it was heavy.

And the classes were like in those days, I would go to karate at five and my mom would pick me up at fucking eight because you did your age group class and then they let you slide in the 10 to 13 and then when I moved to Jersey, that dude was a Vietnam vet. He would swat his flies that weren't there, but he would walk around with a little broom and he'd hit you with the fucking broom. If you didn't do your push-ups correctly, you know, he'd put you, I mean, it was fucking torturally. The sparring in the classes, you got kicked on the stomach. It was semi-contact, no punches to the head, you know, I could score, but that's it. But the body from here to the fucking stomach was open game, man. And they would kick you full speed ahead. And then I remember

going to like, uh, when I was, when I was in high school after high school, I said, let me get my life together. Maybe I'll go back to, and I went to a Taekwondo school. I walked in, that guy, Professor Crane, had a wooden stick and he was smashing motherfuckers with this stick. And at that time, my screws weren't on too tight. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, this guy's gonna hit me when I stick one down. I'm gonna go out to the car and come back with a sword and chop them in half. So fuck it. I ain't joining in here. They were hitting students, you know, this was a difference. So I always imagined Brazilian. What, what, what was this? This is, this is 80s. I quit karate in 1979. I went to karate in New York from 68 to 73. I became a green belt,

where it was Renato's father, Loretto, Renato Larange's father. Then I went to Catholic school, but it was boarding school. So I could only go on Saturday. So I just worked for my uncle or my mom at the bar. And then when I moved to Jersey, I joined the school. His name was Wayne Norlander, Kevin Norlander. And he was a good teacher, but I never saw that guy smile. Like he wasn't in business to smile. He wasn't a nice person at all. Everything was professional. You had a bow, he punching the fucking stomach, that type of shit. You know, you were giggling class, he fucking knocked you out dog. You know, that's crazy shit. And your parents would go, why'd you get hit? Because we giggle, fuck it. You know, you deserve to get hit because it was

all about not laughing. Sometimes you went in there when you're 10, you get the giggles, man. You know, so I still get the giggles. Oh my God, you walk in there, a fat guy walks in, his D falls off. You start laughing. He would beat the fuck out of us, man. Like with karate punches and shit. The Jessica's Sate from Brazil, he's coming, you know, he was Jacaré's original jiu-jitsu coach from white to black, you know, he has his, you know, in his living room, he has Jacaré's ADCC trophy in his living room. He's from the Amazonian, Manaus, the Amazon. And so actually a buddy of mine, Ricardo, was telling me about how he, he went to visit a school, you know, like years ago. His school is in Ozzy. He's a Gracie Baja now, but he used to carry stick

and he hit people with the stick. Now that he's Gracie Baja and it's more professional, he doesn't do it anymore, but that's where, that's where, that's where Jacaré comes from and Jessica comes from. That's why she's so damn tough, you know, because she's, she's from that school, you know, she's from him. Well, I mean, we touched on it earlier, but my only like knowledge of Brazil in that like time is like city of God, like that's that movie, but like the favelas, like that's, where were you living? Were you living in like a nice place? So when I first went down, I lived on this island and it was a guy was taking my buddy in mall. He found this place. He met this guy on the beach randomly and he had this abandoned house. The guy took care of this abandoned house. It was

a three story house. Yeah. You know, and yeah, our, our, our, yeah, we got electricity later on. So we had a fridge and everything. How far later on? Like, until the guy like set it up, you got to connect it, you know, but it was like fight that, that movie with Brad Pitt and his buddy, no electricity. We had a Higan Machado on and he was saying that him and all the Gracie, like they would sleep on the mats and then like they'd wake up and then just start rolling. I guess you guys just don't care. I would, I would walk, I would walk to the Gracie Baja gym, you know, when I lived in Rio and on that island. So, you know, it was nice, you know, at a fan, we ended up getting a fan, you know, and, you know, to keep the mosquitoes off.

But why don't you just put a sheet over your head and you hear the mosquitoes? But then I got me a good sheet. Like out, out here, if I don't have my like internet set up within like three hours of moving into place, it's terrible. And you know, there's no internet. Just gunshots that first week. Obviously no internet, but I meant like people change when they hear gunshots. People really change when they hear gunshots. Maybe who I am, you know, maybe who I am, I wouldn't trade it for nothing. I've got these like old, like, like, they look like something you get out of a crackerjack box, you know, the metals, you know, from these, from these tournaments from back in the 90s. Man, like, I wouldn't trade

those things for nothing. Those things is like, oh, like somebody, like I, because I made this like trophy case, you know, with these competing in the last few years, a lot. And I was like, would you share that for a million dollars? Or wouldn't you know, people say that 10 million? No, yeah, I was like, you know, actually I would. But the other ones in the other room, then what little crackerjack metals like not for nothing, because it made me who I am, you know, like all those experience, like experiences, like those are those things are priceless. Okay, so mosquitoes bite, let's go back to that. So you're living in this fucking abandoned house. How long, how long do you got electricity and running more?

So I think it was a couple months. We had a couple months, maybe two, three months. Yeah. Of mosquitoes, a sheet, sheet over my head. Did you ever think about the reason why you're so successful today is because of those three months? It's just those three months if you, because God puts that in your way. God really puts that shit in your way, or Satan, or Buddha, or whoever the fuck, the Jew God, whoever puts that in your way that we think would stand up. Yeah. You know, I remember waking up and waking up one night in a mattress and there was a piece of dog shit four feet away right there. You're like, you know what, I'm not making any money. I'm quitting college. Speaking of shit. So, you know, you, I would train out, you know,

train twice a day, every class out train, you know, so I get home like 10 o'clock, you're tired, you're like, man. And so we would have to, I would have to, it's on an island. So I have to take a ferry to the front of the island after walk to the side of the island, it's another like, you know, six, seven minute walk, 10 minute walk, whatever. And then I have to paddle that boat. I have to paddle that boat to our house because there's no entrance. You have to paddle a boat. Okay. Man, like I said, sometimes the shit would go into the water. And so like it's like sewage, you know, sewage. All right. And then I would get there sometimes and the somebody would steal the fucking paddle. How the fuck do you get to the house with no paddle?

That's the character building. You still think about those times from time to time, like when you're eating with your kids? I do. I think about that paddle. The paddle. The paddle. The fucking paddle. I get stuck on those things and it makes me, I think about it for a few days and I think about how I didn't just shoot myself at that moment. Like that's it. Something like after training two hours, you're hungry, you got no electricity. It's not like you're going home to see fucking the Sopranos on the couch and have somebody rub your feet. Now you got to bring a boat. I would buy that house. Man, I tried when we went a couple of years ago. Look at that. See, we tried to find that house. We actually stayed

in a house like next door, but that house is gone now because I was like, oh man, we got to find this house. I would buy that house to that and still paddle out there and lose a hundred fucking pounds. Can you imagine paddling to your house, Lee? No, especially after like a jujitsu workout. Like that's the thing. Like when I did jujitsu, I did it for like six months and after I like when I would get in the car, I'd be like, I'm not moving for the rest of the day if I don't have to. You'd have to take a leave. At 10 o'clock at night, paddling that damn boat and somebody would take the fucking paddle. You wake up the next morning like, what the fuck am I doing here? And not even paddling, even like the walking on the island, you have to get

on the ferry. Like this office is within five minutes of both of our houses. Now, where'd you go from there? When did you get a little money to get the fuck out of that? So, you know, because back then, well, yeah, you know, actually, we had to pay like a little bit of rent. The guy, you know, what are they charge you? I don't know. You know, the guy, the guy, like Modellana stuff, he took care of the house, you know, so it was just, it was like the right thing. Actually, we didn't have to pay, but my friend Amalta was like, it was the right thing. So we paid him some money. So after that, I came back to the U.S. and like, I went back again for the world. And then I moved to Bella Resanche, you know, like, I was like, I'm gonna go back.

And I lived in this, I lived in this apartment. It was a building, a regular building. But this, this guy that I was friends with, I brought him these pit bulls. You wanted me to bring him pit bulls so you could breed them and sell them. Yeah. You imported pit bulls? Yeah, yeah. From here? From here, from some guy, some breeder and so cow. Okay. Some blue nose. I don't know what the hell it was, you know, and I'm like, okay, sure, sure. So I brought him, I brought him and man, the guy bounced. He actually went to Cuba to train wrestling and stuff and left me there in this apartment. Again, no electricity. No food. Two dogs. Yeah. And no, actually, we put the dog somewhere else. I was there by myself,

but like no electricity. I got the electricity to turn on, you know, eventually, you know, but man, again, I was like, the light, the sun will go down, the lights will go out, you know, like, what the fuck am I doing here again, you know? And then, you know, so, but out of Nimbelo's lunch, I was really happy, you know, with them, with my training, with Dracolino, with the team, like, man, like, you know, only two years in, right? Yeah, just a few years in. At this point, what was your blue belt? What was your dream? I wanted to be the best. I was trying to, you know, I wanted to be the best at that. I want to be number one. I'm gonna be, I want to be a world. There was no UFC now. There's nothing. There's no UFC. I never actually did a little

article for one of my local newspapers in New Mexico, like, yeah, I don't want to fight UFC. I don't want to fight MMA. It's too crazy. Because back then it was no rules, no, no weight categories. It was just, it's crazy. I mean, it was cool watching it, but I was like, I don't want to do that. And, and then, uh, yeah, just, I just, I wanted to be the best. I wanted to be a world champion. You know, I was, I was a kid. I was, I was trying to make my, make my way in the, in the world, you know, and I wanted to be the best. And I was super focused. I gave everything I had, put my heart and soul into it, moved down where it was, where the word jiu-jitsu was at and where I could get the best training and yeah, went all in. All right. So now you're

in Belarus. What's going on? Belarus, yeah, Belarus. It's not one of the questions I got to ask you. Who is the head instructor at Gracie by this point? Uh, well, you know, Carlos Gracie Jr. is the founder. Okay. But, uh, the, in, in, in Rio, it's this guy, Jefferson, more, more, and then Jacolino students run the one in Belarus, you know, so. But when you went there, who was Jacolino was the guy? Yeah. He was my professor. Like he was the run, running it. And yeah, it was like I said, it was all whites and blues, but I was so happy. And it was the camaraderie. So I felt at home. I felt like man, this is my team. And, um, yeah, give everything I had, like, and I sold everything I had, you know, and I was there in Brazil. And, uh, the second year that

I lived there, the, the, the, I mean, the good thing was that the money doubled. So instead of having $1 to 1 a hour was like two to one. And I was actually able to get a car because I was racking up that $20,000, $20,000 debt. I'm like, but like I said, I needed a car. Like it was hard, you know, taking the bus, like all these like, man, like it was like kind of, you know, it was, it's brush hour. It was the stuff. Yeah. It took everything to go forever. You know, I would get rides. Of course, the guys looked like took care of me, you know, what were you eat? Did you ever eat them? You know, they had like, like where Jacolino school was, it's a really nice like shopping center. So I would eat after the, after the, after the training, I would, you know, I

did good, you know, and like the like maids and stuff, they're really cheap. And so the place where I ended up living later on, like they hadn't made, and you know, I ate good. I, that was part of my training. And I give everything I had to have my training on point, you know, so I ate good. I make sure I was a good and, you know, I had a rest and, you know, I was, I was over training like, you know, what years all this happened? This is like 90s, like 96 to like 2000. I came back in 2000, you know, so late 90s. Yeah. Opened your school. I was trying to figure out where I was going to go. And, you know, I started with the group over there, which many of them, I was like the young kid, and they were like, most of them are older, but they, you know, they kind of took

care of me. And they helped me a lot, you know, with starting the school up. And so I just felt like, and this is where I want to, this is where I feel at home. So I'm going to do it here. Because it was a small town, 60,000 people. I mean, hey, anything I do here, but I do over there, it's like the work, like, you know, you do 10 times the amount of work over there. What a neat little town. Now has it grown since I was there? It's the same because there's only so much water, I think. Yeah, it's, you know, it's a desert, but, you know, it's a small town. There's not too much industry. There's tourism and there's the state capital and Santa Fe, you know, but Albuquerque

is growing a lot. Santa Fe, it's, of course, it's growing, but not like, you know, not like a lot. Still, you know. I still got Dunkin' Donuts. But Dunkin' Donuts. I almost went nuts. I get down. I live in California. I don't see a donut. I'm driving around. I see Dunkin' Donuts. I'm there. The coffee was hot. Hot. Now, how long did you stay? Now, when I met you in Santa Fe, it's 2004. You were not in the UFC then? 2004, no. You were still? Man, I, for a couple of years, like actually when I've met you, the UFC stopped the Lightweight division. I was winning. I started fighting. I think I was 8-0, you know, and the UFC actually was talking to me, but then they got rid of the Lightweight division.

And so I was like, oh man, all right. Like, no more goals like to accomplish. Like, you know, I was, you know, I was thinking about getting married and having kids, family. I was like, man, I got to start like kind of thinking about my future and organizing like this school and making a good business that can afford to, you know, to have a family. So I started focusing on the school and, and like that's when you actually came in and I was just focusing on the school. And then, and then I moved to LA in 2000. My son was born in 2007. So 2007, beginning of 2007. And then, and then, uh, yeah, Joe, Joe Silva was asking me, it was, it was emailing me, hey, come to the UFC. Cause I fought that big fight with, uh, Javier Vasquez, you know, for

the king of the cage title, which got a lot of hype, you know, and then they started the Lightweight division up again, like a little bit before that, maybe more like 2006, you know, with Kenny Florian actually was the first Lightweight fight back. And I was like, all right, cool. You know, like, I can do this again, you know. And then I was like, I'm not ready yet because I hadn't fought for like two and a half years, three years, almost, you know, uh, before my UFC debut. And actually more Smith, I asked him, he's like, I should do a two-note fight. But I was like, you're asking me to find the U of six. Like, I'm just going to, I'm just going to do it. You know, so, so that was that fought in Mandalay Bay. Actually, right before the Randy Couture fight

when he fought Gonzaga and after GSP was like one of those floater fights. I don't know what they call it, but I was right before the main events. I've been watching UFC on TV for 10 years. No, it was like, man, because that was, it was, uh, it was against Roger Huerta, you know. So he was a big name. He had just been on the cover of the Sports Illustrator, which was a big deal, you know, like the UFC was really starting to cross over, you know, with the Ultimate Fighter and all that. And they didn't have that many pay-per-view. So, you know, every pay-per-view, like everybody watched right back, back, back then. Anyway, so I'm watching, you know, they moved me after GSP between Randy Couture, like the fight. So, you know, I mean, I was like,

awaiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, imagine the anxiety. Like after watching the UFC on TV for 10 years, and then you walked down Mendeley Bay, you look up at the big skinny, like, all right, okay. I would have a nervous breakdown. I would have a nervous breakdown. I thought about it, like the difference between comedy and it's, it's, oh my God, if I saw, if I looked up and saw people, I would have a nervous breakdown. See, when I walk on, there's only people to the left of me or the right of me. I could look to the side of me and just see a curtain. So, when I turned my head, there they are. But if I had to look that way, I'd shit my pants. I got nowhere to go. I got to look on the floor and you were losing already. If you look at the floor, you're losing this

fucking fight, you know? Yeah. How many UFC fights did you have? I did two fights. That's it? Yeah. Did you enjoy them? I did. You know, looking back, like at the time, like, you know, like, I didn't get the win. But, you know, looking back, it was, I'm, you know, I'm grateful that I had the opportunity and I got to feel walk down that, that, that runway and Mandalay Bay and Peeper View and all that and just do it, you know, like follow through with what I started. You know, I wish I had more time. I wish, you know, I could have done this better or that better, but man, I'm happy. I'm grateful. Like, got to fight all over the world, like Euro, Japan, like UFC, Vegas, like, man, I did it all. I had a full career, I had a full life in MMA, you know,

like the 20 professional fights. What MMA was MMA? Yeah, like, you know, I was like, the beginning, you know, kind of the beginning, you know, I wouldn't make, wouldn't make nothing. It was like King of the Cage, like hundreds of bucks, you know? Luckily, I had a big, you know, I had a lot of support. So people buy tickets and you get that commission. But overall, like, you know, like, there was no money, you know? But yeah, I'm grateful. I'm just grateful. I'm happy. I had the, got to do what I got to do. I got to do the whole thing, you know? So now you said something real interesting before. You were there before Winkle John, really? No, they helped me. Michael Winkle John? No, no, in Albuquerque. They weren't Albuquerque. No, no, Jiu-Jitsu. So

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and they're like, actually, Mike Winkle John had his own school. And it was Winkle John, it was actually AKKA. It was a karate school. He was under like Bill Packer, you know, so his school was a karate school and I used to go to school and Greg Jackson, they were always cool and Greg Jackson helped me for my first, the fights, you know? But I was the first Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu school in New Mexico. And then all my students, like, if I ever go back to New Mexico, like most of the guys that are there, they're from me, like I brought, I actually did a work visa for one of the Brazilians. He's actually training Overeem. He was in his corner this weekend. And and John Jones, you know, he helps them with their. Oh, yeah, he's a new guy.

Yeah. So I brought them out there. But in San, it was in Albuquerque because I before I left, I was like, oh, man, I knew I was going to have to end up moving. I started under the school in Albuquerque. So that was that. And then when they had to move, we me and Tusa, the John Jones's coach, like Jiu-Jitsu coach, we always got a lot, we got along, we hit it off right off the bat. I did a tournament in Santa Fe with Rafael Lovato and like these, you know, big names and we hit off the bat and he was going to stay here illegally. And I was like, I was like, listen, man, like, because of another buddy of mine stayed illegally and he was screwed. You know, I was like, listen, I'll do, I'll do a extension for you. And then you can travel around the U S and figure out what

you want to do. And in the meantime, you're legal. And then when you're ready, like, you know, where you want to stay, and then you figure it out, you know, but at least you stay legal. And so he ended up like, hey, I want to come stay with you in New Mexico. I'm like, all right, sounds good. Because like we're really got along really well. And doing his work visa in the past and got it. And man, he's training John Jones. I made his dad like at the pans this year. Give me a big hug. It was cool, man. He's a good dude. He's actually, yeah, his wife's from March County. So we'll see what happens, you know, because he's gonna have to, once he has kids, probably gonna have to go to both places. But he, you know, he's there. He's

there. Jiu-Jitsu coach. So he's doing that. And so everybody's kind of together. They run like a Jiu-Jitsu training on Fridays at the Winkle, John, Mike, Greg, Greg, what's it called? Jackson's Winkle, John's MMA. Yeah. So they have another facility that's just high level. Right, right. It's just big for us. And then the other guys get the other stuff. But I started my first Jiu-Jitsu school in 2000. So I mean, like, we've had a lot of blacks. We've had like, man, like, I think 17 black belts, you know, most of those guys, they started with me on their first day. I'm proud of that. That's probably one of my, one of my proudest, proudest, like, accomplishments in Jiu-Jitsu is like, starting all those, you know, those students to black belt,

you know, like, I've had like, I had the first like American female world champion, like in like 2001, a lot of history, you know, a lot of history on those mats. I did a lot. I gave everything I had. Same thing with my, you know, give everything I had to like coaching out, we'd travel, go to California, like all over the place to compete for a lot of years, you know, I did not expect your school to be what it turned out to be in New Mexico or here. The one in Burbank there in Magnolia, I did not. I thought I was walking into UFC Junior, you know what I'm saying? And it's, uh, you could tell your commitment to that school. Like, you know, it starts, the party starts at five in the morning, we're laughing, you know, we're

laughing. You can go down there and throw kettlebells at five in the morning. Five fucking day in the morning, you're up, come on down. Guess what? Oh, you get up at four when you work nights, take out Jiu-Jitsu at six thirty a.m., you know, bad breath and everything, hair sticking up, fucking armpits, you're on it, you know what I'm saying? Then it starts with the new thing you add it and then there's no tax fit and then there's a 11 o'clock, there's kickboxing. It's just a really efficient, smart way of doing business. You're covering the spread. There's a little break in the afternoon. You get the kids in there and the party starts all over again at six thirty, seven, thirty, eight, thirty and, you know, it just, uh, but it seemed like you always had a good

lack of having a school. You know, I'm like, like you said, I'm, I'm committed, you know, like, I love it so much, like to help me in my life and I just have a big passion, you know, I guess, I don't know, my mom, I guess when she said, you're, it's in your blood, you know, because she's a teacher and her parents, like teachers, they're big on the, you know, the board of education. They did a lot of stuff for the community. My, even my grandfather, who I was named after, he has a school named after him in Santa Fe, like elementary school. Um, but, uh, yeah, I just have a big passion. I love it. I love it. And, uh, yeah, I want to be there. My kids train there. I train there, you know, obviously I train there, but, um, yeah, I love it. You know, I want to, I want to be there.

I want to be there. I was really in shock what happened to martial arts the last 15 years. When I got to Boulder in 90, I was in Boulder for a while and I got into comedy in 91. And when I got into comedy, I had a gym and I had a bag and I had weights in the Olympic weights and a bag. I paid 35 bucks and I'd open up the garage and I put music on and I had the mitts and I'd run in those days. I got beside us in my heels, but I always miss martial arts. I went to New York and when I was doing comedy in 93, I said, let me join the boxing gym. And that got me back in it, but I left and I got to Boulder and where Easton owns those gyms in Boulder. That's my original friend's gym. What happened, this kid's father went to him one day and said, hey, I'm dying.

What do you want? I'm going to give you $3 million. This kid was a, uh, a Subak doughnut. And he goes, just, I just want to open up the best gym in Colorado. And he went, it was Boulder Karate. There was Boulder Karate and then there was his school. You should have seen this place. And the guy would get there at nine in the morning and he wouldn't go home till nine at night. Hippy dude. You know, he was kind of crazy, but I went in there one day. I just went in there and I kept going and going and going and going. This is before I got fat, by the way. At this time I'm in shape. This is 94. I went to him till 96 until I left Boulder. But the funny thing was that I really admired him because he was always there. Like, this is what he did.

Like, this is what he did. When you came in at two in the afternoon, he'd be there with his guion. Like, are you like, are you retarded? You'd have his guion on the computer and he come to you with his guion. Yeah. And in the way you got to respect that. Half of these places, they're closed in the afternoon. They tap out. They don't even want to put the F in it. What did I count today? 26 kids in the lunchtime class. 26, 27 kids. We had to switch mats. I mean, when you opened up the doors, there was no 27 kids. You know, and you could have said, I'm not going to have a lunchtime class, which a lot of schools do. Nobody has a lunchtime class. They have three times a week, not every morning, not every day. You're the only one. And then you

had Saturday and the Lord's Day. I went Mother's Day. My wife came home from church. I got a headache. Well, fuck you. I'm out of here. You don't want to go eat Chinese. All right, let me go in there. I knew is when I pulled up, I thought it was closed. I walked in. It was like six cats. Yeah, you know, it just makes sense. You know, that's what it should be. I should be able to pop into your place if I have a minute off. That's what it was. But if you only give me three options and I'm in the business, I'm only going to make one so week. I can't go at night. I have a three year old and a wife. My wife cooks. She's running back and forth in the kitchen. I'm going to walk past her with a geek and say goodbye. Yeah, you get out of my house.

My daughter won't let you out of the house. A little three year old. And then Mike went, you know, I'm getting calls. I got, I got comedy at eight o'clock. I can't do it at night. So for me and to see 27 people today. And that's a medium class. Like a couple of Mondays ago, there was like 40 people. Somebody was wrestling outside when I left and stuff. You know, it's just amazing. That's it. And I take my hat off to you. Thanks. Yeah, we work hard. We love it. Like I said, I love it. So, you know, it's a blessing. You know, I get to be there. I get to do what I love to do. Get to have my kids in there. My wife's got the Asahi Jungle Cafe next door. So, you know, we do our separate things,

but we get to see each other too. So, you know, blessed. And now you have this new thing. Break it down for me because I, I know he's coming in. The guy's coming in at the end of the month. He's doing a three hour seminar. I got to ask you something. You know, I love you to death. I go in there and bang it up. But if you think I go in there and spend about for three hours, professor, I can't go and make me suffer for four days. No. So, uh, so this guy, this guy, Scott Sahn, man, this guy's like, he helped me for one of my UFC fights like 10 years ago. Actually, my first Jiu-Jitsu coach introduced me to him. He was, because he works a lot with government agencies and stuff. Like this guy, he always, he was always

ahead of the game, like that Navy SEAL, my first Jiu-Jitsu coach, Marcos Gonzalez. And, uh, and he's like, man, I want you to work with this guy. I want you to meet him. And, uh, the guy, he's a grapple. He was a somber guy actually, a somber world champion. And, um, he's like, yeah, I'd love to, I'd love to work with Alberto. You know, he's, I guess he knew me and he's like, yeah, I'd love to work with him as we started working together. And the guy's so smart. It was like all the stuff went over my head. I did everything he said and it was like great, you know, all the stuff he was showing me, but I was like, I wasn't really like ready for it, you know, but he wrote this blog, he wrote this blog of all our training sessions. Like the guy can,

the guy's a genius. And, uh, man, I learned so many things like on breathing, on recovery, on just, I mean, the stuff was deep. Like, I'm like, how does this guy know all these things? You know, like these, we, the guy, the guys that would train me, there were two guys, they would video everything and then they would send them back the info. The guy's like a scientist. Anyway, like just on the recovery, like, you know, how good a shape you're in is how fast you can recover. And just all these different, like I never even thought about, you know, but I still use like joint mobility things to keep yourself healthy. Like, man, I think everybody that does Jitsu, they should, they need to like, they need to do tack fit. They need to do this thing because it's,

it's for your head. It's like health, you know, like I was doing CrossFit a couple years ago, I got into it. Man, you get all these over, overuse, you think, overuse your body, like you get, you strain yourself, like you get hurt. Tack fits all by health, you know, like you being healthy, like you feeling good and you should feel good, you know, when you work out and you do stuff, you know, and so it's about health, health number one, you know, and he has a different, like training protocols. He uses those clubbells that will look like bats, kettlebells, you know, rings, a lot of body weight stuff. And man, it's like, like a lot of, like your core, you know, getting your core strong. And it's a perfect compliment to like Jiu Jitsu or martial arts,

you know, because it doesn't get in the way, you know, it just helps it. And that's one of the things that I remember, like when his blog is like, yeah, you're conditioning your strength training, it can't get in the way, it can't, like if you can't get in the way of your, of your, your Jiu Jitsu training, or your whatever training your MMA, it's got to just compliment it, you know what I mean? So that's why I have it at the gym, because it's the perfect compliment to whatever martial art you're doing at our gym, you know, it's perfect compliment because a lot of the stuff is like similar movements. The guy, the guy's a martial artist, you know, he was a martial artist. And then like I said, the guy's like crazy smart, he has like a TED talk, just on

learning, you know, he was like, he was like dyslexic. So we went through a lot, you know, when he was a kid, and just, and the guy's like, he's amazing, you know, and he's really taking me in. And so I'm trying to make him proud and do some good work, you know, at our school in Burbank. Tackfit, Tackfit Burbank. I always mess it up. I was tick-tock. Tactical, tactical fitness. And the guy that teaches at the school, what's his name? Robert. Robert. Yeah. The blue belt purple. Good guy, really good guy. It's really interesting what you do. Like nobody knows what Tackfit is, you know, but same thing with jiu-jitsu. When I first started jiu-jitsu, nobody knew what it was, you know, unless you saw like Coice Gracie in the

first UFC or second UFC, like you didn't know what it was. But I believed in it. I loved it. And that was it. That's all I needed. And I followed my heart, you know, I followed my heart and went for it, moved out to Brazil, brought it back, you know, started the school. I was educating people what it was. So I feel like in a way, like the same thing with this Tackfit, you know, like a lot of people are doing CrossFit and these different things. But man, like just from my experience, like I got certified in the CrossFit. And I was going to even do like make my gym a CrossFit gym and teach, but teach Tackfit, you know, because I always got that guy's Scott Sonnen's voice in my head, like, you know, like this philosophy and like how to train and

how to do a lot of stuff. She stay healthy, you know. But, but I was like, yeah, I'm going to, and I went to his certification this year. And we got like, it was one of those nights, I stayed up all night, like just talking to his guys. And, and he's like, man, if I just do a Tackfit gym, I was like, you know what, after you said that, I was like, you know what, you're right. Like, I got a signed, you know, those signs aren't cheap, you know, a few thousand bucks. So I boom, got to got the sign, Tackfit signed up. It's probably the first one, maybe, I don't know, us, you know, but I believe in it, I believe in it. And yeah, I want to, I want to help people, I want to, you know, get people healthy. And, you know, it's, it's, it's the best, you know,

it's the best like fitness, like system program out there. What's your vision for the next 10 years? What do you think it's going? That's, that's huge for, for, for effort, for competitions, you did to for myself, I'm not going to go to a competition. I use it for fitness. Yeah. You know, and I think, I think it's, you know, for everybody's different, right? But like, because you're asking me, like you asked me, like, whereas for me, like, for my school, like, I just want to, I want to have something for everybody, you know, like, somebody wants to be a world champion, they want to go to the UFC, like you should have a good enough school to take people there, you know, people like to be healthy, to be healthy, be, you know, understand, like, you're

going to like an attack when they just sit you're like, we're going to, it's going to carry over, it's going to mesh together, you know, but just learning how to like breathing, recovery things, mobility things to help your joints, like, so you're not all aches, you know, how to fix yourself, like, you're going to do this stuff, you're going to learn, like how to, how to do these things, and you can, you can help yourself, you can help like your loved ones, your friends, like, man, try this, you know, it's crazy, you know, like, like, you know, in Russia, like, Sambol, right, they have, they don't give black belts in Sambol, they give, like, the master of sport, you know, that's the, that's the, that's the title you get, master of sport. So, man, like, that's, that's

what's up, you know, like, you, black boy, you're a master of sport, you're like, you understand shit, you know, you're going to be like, you really understand the body, you know what I mean, and that's beautiful, that's what, that's what it's about, you know, like, go on the distance, you know, like an Allen, you know, like, like that guy, he, he competed in the pans last year, and I did an interview with him, I was like, man, I want to do an interview with him, so I was going to try to submit it to Gracie Mag, and I was like, man, like, so what's your secret to, you know, staying healthy and all that, and he's like, you know, I always stayed active, I always did stuff, and I always tried to eat well,

like, I don't eat too much meat, I have more fish, you know, blah, blah, I always made sure I, you know, I ate pretty well, and then, and then asked him, like, what his motivations are now, and like, man, he like, would you, would you, because he likes to compete, he likes to, you know, he's like, I just want to be like an inspiration, I think about my kids, my grandkids, I want them to think about me, and be like, you know what, like, not to give up, to go for it, you know, and I think he does that, like, and partly with all of us, you know, just looking at him, like, man, this guy is like, you have no excuses to, you know, to, to, to, to, you know, stay healthy and go for it, you know, go for it till the end, so.

It's, for me, when I walk out of that, I could do anything. Like, when I walk out of that place, and I get in my car, in my mind, I could do anything, because I just did the hardest thing I was going to do all day in my mind, because I'm walking in there, not even, it's not even being out of shape, it was also being scared, I had fear attached to it, you know, I'm a little old, I didn't know, sleep apnea, I can't breathe, and when I thought all those variables, I said, that's even more reason why I should go, you know, fear for me is always, I like what I'm scared of, I don't want to not be scared, I want to, you know what I'm saying, like, fear for me is, I mean, most people, when I, when I

train like the staff and the guys that talk to them, you know, about people coming in, like, off the street, like, you know, like, people, they don't know what, they don't know what to expect, they think it's like the UFC, maybe they watched the UFC on TV, like, am I going to get beat up, is it going to be like the old school, you know, like, you know, what's going to happen, they're scared, you know, and so it's our job to like, you know, like, hold their hand, get them through, and get them to do that first class, so they really experience our, you know, our program, and just that it's professional, and like, they're going to, they're going to succeed, they can do it, you know, that's the biggest thing that they can do it, hey, I can do this,

after the first class, okay, I got this, I can do this, and it goes from there, you know, one day, and then two days, and how many months has it been now? Like, consistently training? Since January 4th. Man, that's, that's amazing, you know, you've lost, like, I fell in love, I fell in love with it, and I went in there with a different, I went in there with my comedy attitude. You know, there's days I want to go in there, but I don't let myself go in. Do you know that? There's days, like, I'm like, ah, unless I'm in a pinch for days, for my weekly goals, I won't go in there, because I want to, I want to miss it. I want to go there 20 minutes before and ask you creepy questions, you know what I'm saying? You know, because that's

what it's all about, it's, when you wake up, you wake up, and you, I know when I walk the baby, and I come back, like, I try to write, and that's when I send emails, but in the back of my mind, I'm writing little things to ask Coach Donnie, Coach Joe, you know, Professor Joe, Professor Donnie, I got Leo, who I get creepy with, I tell him, hold my arm, and he teaches me all this stuff, you know, because you got to have your own private eye, the whole professor. Hold my arm. Oh yeah, he taught, listen, that guy grabs your arm before an on-ball, it's night in night, you're not taking it back, so I want to, you know, I ask the guys, listen, and I look at the guys in

class that are consistent, the guys that have a weird look in their eye, and from my perspective, I remember being a comic and having that look in their eye, the tiger, the foaming, and those other guys, I ask creepy questions. They get there at 11, 10, 30, drilling, classes at noon, they're there an hour, an hour and a half early. Yeah, and anytime you go there, you're going to find some creepy dude like you, like, hey, hey, what are you doing here? I would teach him how to get out of this.

Come over here, let me teach you too. It's very, like I've said a thousand times, when I went on this podcast for years and talked about losing weight, never, Professor, I'm lying, maybe once or twice or somebody, go, hey, when you come to my city, let me private train you. Tomorrow, right now, when I go back to my house by tonight, I'll check one of my emails and I'll go, hey, my name is, I'm a brown belt. I'm a big guy. We want to start by the gym and me to teach you.

It's amazing. People offer it. Like you're like, what? Like never have people offered. So there was different things for me that I just knew I wanted it to work. I can't breathe, so this is how I'm going to breathe. I want my daughter to see it. When I see little girls doing it, when I see women doing jiu-jitsu and they're fishing in it,

I know that no matter what happens to me, my daughter's going to learn how to fucking break people's elbows. You know, that's, and that's who's built for. It's built for little people to fuck people up like me. But besides that, I'm just happy to be a associate professor. You're a winner. Thank you. And you're a savage and I always wanted you to come on here and make me laugh.

You always got good fucking stories. I didn't know about the paddling shit. Fucking bad. That's what I'm talking about. Oh my God. Imagine like fucking shit, like ship water. You don't have a paddle. Like how the fuck you, you know, 10 o'clock at night, you're tired.

Man, I think about that. And I'm going to think, you know what that feels like to me when I got divorced and my wife took the mustard. Like who takes the mustard? You know, that's like you're going to make a sandwich. Who takes the mustard and the fucking ketchup? You dirty bitch. You sit there for years.

Like who takes the fucking mustard? Thank you, professor, for coming. You've got to go, professor. I just want to do a shout out and the ads. If you've got to go, I know you've got to go teach. I have no beef with you. Okay. All right.

Give me a hug, professor. You're a savage. Thank you. Thank you very much for coming. I'll try to get a leave after. Take, tag me there and we'll get them going. Thank you, sir. I'll see you Monday.

Okay. Bright and early. There you go, you savages. I hope you got the lesson of the lesson. If you want to get good at something, you got to immerse yourself in it. I did. You know, when he told me the story,

I remember going home and going, Jesus Christ, if I want to shoot this special in October, I got to fucking jump into this. And this is what I've been doing lately. I've been trying to write stupid sayings, everything. And as once I have the surgery in July, after that, I'm going to go for it, man. I'm going to try to make this special, but that's what you have to do.

You have to watch football. You have to play football. You have to sleep. It's like Dice said a few weeks ago, that he prepared himself emotionally, physically. He was prepared from day one. If you're watching what Rogan's doing right now, Rogan's about to shoot a special.

Watch his work ethic on Twitter. He's out every night. He's banging it. He's on. He's doing Sundays because he knows when you get there, you don't want to have no fucking dilemmas. You understand me, Lisa? I hope you're learning something, Cocksucker.

How stoned are you falling asleep in front of my main man? I didn't fall asleep. Parish, Mikey, you know, I love you. Leon always on it. Don Wrangler, my main man in Bakersfield, Matt Baker, BJJ. David Cole, Jr. Jason Temple. Andreas Hernandez, John Lee. One by one podcast.

My main man, Mikey over there, 609 running things. And big John 419. I want to give a shout out to my man, Dante Gazzini. I got this shirt he sent me. What's it say, Lee? I can't see. To Gantt Farm. You bad motherfucker.

In Sherman, Missouri. Look at him in shit, stretching his muscles and shit. And that's it, Lee. How are you feeling? Everything all right? We finally, for you people who wanted to know, we spoke to Owen Benjamin. He's alive and kicking.

I think he did his podcast yesterday. Explain what happened. We did not mean to poison him. It's not like Lee's dad. This was just, if anybody saw the periscope, he put his hand in it and he took it. You know, listen, we, I ate five of six. Lee ate five of six.

You know, you don't want to feel like Harvey fucking homo. I love him. I love Owen Benjamin. At least he's not like half the people that come on here that fear. Guys, I can tell you stories about certain guests that will not come on here because they're scared to touch anything that they might get fucked up.

Can you believe that? That's the society we live in. That's why the guests who come on the show from Ada, these motherfuckers are savages. Because they know you walk on the fucking spider web of debt. You don't know what's going to happen to you and he knows what happened to you and I. I don't even know what's going to happen.

I did not expect that until he said he smoked vapor pads. I just can't wait to hear the story because I thought he was going to go like take a walk on like, in our like, on like up and down like the parking lot and then come back. I didn't think he was going to walk like down the street. He did? That's what he said on Twitter.

Yeah, he said he got lost. Oh, and I would hate to be him. I felt for him all night. I called him three times people for you people who think I'm a savage. I called him three times. I said a prayer for him and that's it. Oh, you know, you're old enough.

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corners on the 405. I can't. I can't do the ones. I've done those. I've taken a star and left the house at four in the morning. You can't do the HOV lane then because that barrier is like death. Oh my god, you have no fucking idea how many times I've hit. I've eaten a star that got on the 405 at four in the morning

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Some guy today at Alberto Crane's had a bag. And he looked great. They're great bags to carry to Jitsu. So again, I want to welcome them to the show. I want to give a shout out to my man tracker.com and my main people over there right now. All right. And that's it.

That's it. That's that. Tomorrow night, Sacramento punchline. Eight o'clock with Felicia Michaels. Next motherfucking Thursday night. The Pittsburgh improv. What? What?

What? Roberto Clemente showing up. Jay Bechero is showing up to teach you. He's bringing a pound. Are you fucking nuts or what? 20 a life, no parole. Lisa, yeah. Mama's gone till when?

Mama's gone until tomorrow. Okay. So you're going to see them all night? Um, probably Saturday. Because she's graduating this weekend. So you're going to see her Friday? Yeah, I'll see her Friday. I'm going to give her a little present.

What are you going to give her for a little graduation gift? I don't know how to go to them all tomorrow. You're going to give her a little Jew dick. That's I don't think that was considered a present. You should walk in the door and get like a plastic that it won't burn. And for graduation, put like some little lighter fluid on your dick with some of that chemical and light your dick on fire. That's what it just go in there.

Jew with his dick on fire. That's what you're doing tomorrow night for graduation. Who's better than you? Nobody. Look at the shape of you. What are you going to do for you? What are you going to give her? A scarf?

Who wants a fucking scarf when they got you? Bro, I can't. You can't what? I can't hang a shelf. Oh, there's no way I'm going to light my dick. That's going to end up in the same hospital as Ida with my dick burned. Listen, you eat six stars. You won't even feel it.

Who's better than you? Nobody. I love you guys. Have a great weekend. Thank you for listening. We'll be back Monday night, eight o'clock with a tremendous guest. I'll be here. Leo be here.

And most important, you bitches will be here. Stay black, motherfuckers. If you need to get a hold of me, go to gmail at church.com or something like that. I don't even know what the fuck it is no more. Hit me up on Facebook or Twitter or whatever. I love you guys. Oh, you're going to play music sometime this fucking year. You're going to stare into the door like a swami from Zalami.

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