Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #396 - Eddie Bravo

Episode Date: July 11, 2016

Eddie Bravo, Owner of 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu and the founder of EBI, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio.   The Seventh Eddie Bravo Invitational takes place July 16, 2016 at the Orpheum The...atre in Los Angeles, CA and being streamed live for the first time on UFC Fight Pass.   All info can be found here: http://www.eddiebravoinvitational.com/   This podcast is brought to you by:   SeatGeek: Download the FREE SeatGeek app and use promo code CHURCH to get $20 off of your first SeatGeek purchase.   Datsusara: Go to DSgear.com and check out all of their great products, like gi's and rash guards, that are made with high quality hemp textiles. Use code Joey to get 5% off of your order. Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.   Recorded live on 07/11/2016.
  

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Starting point is 00:01:51 It's a whole new fuckin' week. It's a straight week. There's no fucked up holiday on Monday. You're walking around Wednesday, thinking it's Thursday. It's just gonna be a beautiful fuckin' week, Lisa Yat. My little little brother Eddie Bravo in the house. Fuckin' Vegas, driving back, signin' autographs at UFC Pass. People tellin' me people will leave you alone at the fuckin' comedy show, askin' if you
Starting point is 00:02:15 wanna go to Spearman Rhino and shit. Crazy people out there, aren't that those things? They're fuckin' crazy. They go out there to lose their mind. I was smokin' a fuckin' number with talking there hidden under a bridge as six people came over. We were fuckin' draped in fuckin', what's that, camouflage? And people still found us in the fuckin' weeds, though.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Was Vegas crazy this weekend? It must have been. Yeah, it was nice. They were crazy. Listen, the Fan Expo is fun as shit. I mean, that went the first year. How was it this year? It was good.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Back. Yeah. Back. Yeah, it's grown. It's bigger and bigger. They have wrestling tournaments, kickboxing tournaments, MMA events goin' on. The space that they rent for this is like, oh man, it's like Lollapalooza or something, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Or Coachella. It's just a giant fuckin', I mean, they had an IBJJF full blown tournament goin' on with multiple maps, and they had like an eight man super fight thing, too. They had karate tournaments. It was fuckin' huge, man. It was crazy. I was gonna fly in Thursday and go Friday morning, but I had to go to the doctor at 9.15, and I just took the 12.30 flight and said, fuck it, but I wanted to walk around.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I just wanted to see, it wasn't even the fighters as much as the other shit they got there. Now, martial arts has come a long fuckin' way, mouthpieces that are made out of this, you know, whatever. They just have shit that, you know, I didn't see as a fuckin' kid. I used to go to those martial arts stores every fuckin' Saturday and just sit there and drew. I'm gonna put away money and come back and get a star.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Then they sold you a star and it wasn't a sharpen. That drove you fuckin' nuts. You were torn against a wall 80 times, it wouldn't stick, you're like, what the fuck? Then somebody was like, what are you, stupid? You gotta get a sharpen. Now you gotta go down to the fuckin' hardware store and give the guy with the missing thing a five bucks, and he puts it in like a fuckin' thing, you know, like a thing that closes and then he would hit it.
Starting point is 00:04:27 That's how you got him sharpened. What are you gonna do? Somebody said to bring him home and do it when your mother's can opener, remember that fuckin' can opener your mom had, that the back of it was a knife sharpener? I had one of those knife sharpening like swords or sticks, I don't know how to use them. I spent time as a kid, you know, you can't, I had nunchucks as a kid, but it was the rubber with the foam kind, like I never got actual good ones. What about, I guess it was a collie stick, when I did Taekwondo, my master had like
Starting point is 00:04:56 a huge long wooden stick that he would just whack us if we were doing something wrong. Like that was the best, like that's what I always wanted. A collie stick? Just to hit my little brother? Yeah. You're fuckin' crazy. Yeah. You know, it's funny because today Chinese Connection was on, somebody says, I'm watching the Bruce
Starting point is 00:05:12 Lee festival and I turned it on and it was the part where he was about to hang the fuckin' dude, which is just a violation of a martial arts film. Like this was the early, early, early martial arts films and Bruce Lee hangs this motherfucker, he hangs two of them in one day, then another motherfucker on the third day, that's called he's with type shit in like the one Angam High and one of those, one of those he paints the town red, I don't know what the fuckin' movie is, don't quote me, Joey you're wrong, I don't know. One of those Italian movies he did was really, he was really evil, he was very evil, then
Starting point is 00:05:52 this movie Bruce Lee is evil. So I'm sitting there, I'm watching it and I'm watching it, I'm watching it, I'm watching it when he goes and he's watching the Japanese guy's train, he's watching the Russian train and now I see him go for the kill and I put on periscope and I put him on show to him and I narrated it and he bravo, it is one of the greatest martial arts runs, he goes through 40 motherfuckers, you understand me, but he says a line that is so unique, he looks at the school and he goes, listen, I come here to avenge my master, this has nothing to do with you, I'm allowing you to leave.
Starting point is 00:06:33 It's like me coming into your house and going, I'm allowing you to leave and they were like, we don't know what the fuck, they were sweeping the map, mopping the map, he just threw a beat on those guys, he stabs the black belt with a fuckin' sword, he comes outside, he does a spinning elbow, who does a spinning elbow in 1971, you understand me, walks directly and spins and he pops, comes back, kicks the guy, goes in, beats the fuck out of three more guys, bodyguards, then he fucks up the Russian dude, then he goes in and when he goes in to fight the master, the master has a sword, Bruce Lee took out new chucks and for a minute, Eddie, it was like I was 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Is that seen on YouTube or something, I'm sure it is, yeah, on YouTube. The ending scene. But the beauty of it is Eddie, when he took those new chucks out, who's bumps, I got tears in my eyes, because I still remember the first time he broke those new chucks out, America lost that mind. Like it's very hard to describe as an old man, but I feel proud that I saw it. Like he put the new chucks out on the Friday and by Monday motherfuckers had new chucks. Not the fucking good ones either, the homemade ones.
Starting point is 00:07:52 How do you make homemade new chucks? You take a broom, you cut it, measure it, completely even, and then you get eye hooks and you screw the eye hook into the fucking thing on top and you get a little six inch chain and you start practicing. That's a homemade fucking new chunk. Put that fight scene on, okay, the YouTube, let me see if this is it. It's two minutes, that's probably it. No, no, this isn't it.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Go back, this is the ending. You got to go to go back, I don't tell you that was part three. Maybe that was a part one. Right here, trying to fourth one, Chinese connection fight scene. Okay, guys, this is something that just look at him. This is 1971. He's fucking Steve McQueen coached. They gave him a picture that said sick man of Asia and he walks back to the fucking
Starting point is 00:08:44 Japanese school and he says, take this fucking from me now. Take the volume on this Lee, I see. Now this is based in the 40s when Japanese oppressed the Chinese take this from me and then get out of here. Whenever you're ready, I'll take on any Japanese here. Now Eddie Bravo, to you, you're like Joey, why are you making me watch this because no, I want to watch it. I want you to put yourself in 1971.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Okay, nobody was doing anything close to this. You had Clint Eastman, Charles Bronson, then you must be tired of living. Well, we fight alone or all together. You think the guy that overdub Bruce Lee's voice here ever got like laid because of it? This was something that these movies cost maybe $50,000 to make in Thailand. They made millions on this movie. Look at this guy's wig. The fight scene itself, I saw on a Wednesday in Catholic school and it was coming on Friday.
Starting point is 00:10:09 This was the trailer during happy days and I lost my mind in Catholic school. How old were you? Eight. Oh yeah, of course. Lost my fucking mind. When they picked me up, they asked me what I wanted to do that week and it was to go to this and the movie theater was packed, I mean, look at this shit. This is what America saw.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Like everybody got to see this, not just Fista Fury, the first one did kind of weird. This one swept across the fucking board. To this day, that shirt that he wears, that's one of the coolest outfits ever. I always used to get that, right? You have to get the white shirt with the long, long, long sleeves, then the blue shirt and then you roll the white sleeves up over the blue shirt. Howdy brother, you eight years old, here we go. I'm studying what Rashad's father and I'm seeing this shit.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Are you kidding me? Heck, you believe it. It's like, that could happen. Oh, I lost my fucking mind. Look at this and he choreographed everything. Right here. Look at this. Look, the money, the money right here.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Oh shit. That's money right there, a double punch backwards. Watch out. It turned into dummies. You said it turned into dummies. This is old school. But here you go. This was history, guys.
Starting point is 00:11:56 This was history. Right here. Everybody in the movie theater went, oh shit, look at this, this is history right here. This is like Abe Lincoln. Baya. Right now you're at the movie theater. You're hard to believe in your, your heart's pumping, your hands are sweaty, you can't wait for this movie to end so you can figure out how to get new jobs.
Starting point is 00:12:42 You will look at BlackBell Magazine, you lost your fucking mind. That guy right there, that guy's name was John Reed. He was one of the best traditional tight on dough guys of the time. He's not even sweating. No. Now it's classic. Now that destroyed American guys. So you went home and you made the wooden ones and then people figured out, wait a second,
Starting point is 00:13:26 you gotta get the thicker stick. And then they did that one with the chain. But then a movie called Karado the Hong Kong Cat came out. When Bruce Lee died, the first wannabe movie that you cannot find. Because I've looked at this motherfucker. Was it Bruce Lee? No. It was his other good looking Chinese kid.
Starting point is 00:13:47 But the opening scene is him fucking up like 13 kids and his mom's like, Karado, time for dinner. And they're like, all right, see you tomorrow. Like they did this every fucking day for Karado. And Karado's new chucks had tips at the end that destroyed America. Let's see if we can find that. Karado the Hong Kong Cat. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:14:08 How crazy was it that? This is 1974. This is probably 1973, a few months after Bruce Lee died. Or right before Bruce Lee died, they said, step aside Bruce Lee and make way for Karado the Hong Kong Cat. Oh, Hong Kong or Hong Kong? Hong Kong, whatever the fuck it is, Hong Kong, you know, he was from Hong Kong. What about Bruce fucking lie?
Starting point is 00:14:33 They were trying to get him to they needed someone to look like Bruce Lee, kind of sound like Bruce Lee. We just changed one letter at the end. And they were hoping like, like kiss. They hope that the masses won't even notice the difference, you know, like with Ace Freely and with Peter Chris, they got a different dude to play Ace Freely, same makeup and a different dude to play Peter Chris, same makeup. And they, you know, the fans, the real fans know what the fuck's going on.
Starting point is 00:15:01 But but like the fair weather fans go, oh, let's go check out Kister in town. They're not going to have any idea. They they're they're counting on that. Isn't that crazy? The whole things on YouTube. Let's just see what this is. Oh, shit. The Hong Kong Cat.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Let's just see what this is. He's got the same shirt and everything. He listens to my words and crawled the both my legs. Then I'll let you go. Huh, you're witty enough. Better crawl under my legs or else you'll never walk. Go to hell. Get him.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Why are his hands in his pocket? Because he's that bad ass. Oh, my God, this is so bad. This is the worst shit ever. You know, they just threw out. There was a time period where they called black exploitation movies. Well, they started putting these out. And when Bruce Lee died, they were putting these out.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Fuck yeah. Well, keep going, keep going, keep going. I just want to see if he breaks out his new check that this is even the same guy. It's got to be his name. There's Karado. Listen, they could have made a fake Karado, too. You never fucking know what these people, these people
Starting point is 00:16:27 with savages in the 70s, man. Dude, this is news to me. I never heard of Karado. Bruce Lee opened up. Bruce Lee's debt opened up every. See, this is the German version. I'm. Sharp, how?
Starting point is 00:16:50 You know, I loved all these movies, but once Bruce Lee died, that was it. I was I was not one of the ones that got one of one of my funniest at these conversations ever was about 10 years ago, but the guy who pitched Game of Death 4, like the balls on that guy. How are you doing? We don't want to waste your time today.
Starting point is 00:17:12 We have an idea of a game of death four. Listen, game of death two made $2 million and game of death three made $10 million. This we're gonna use a black guy and put Bruce Lee's face over it. That sounds interesting. What is your production value? About 10, 22, 50.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Cause that's what it's gonna cost to shoot that. They ended up shooting like eight game of deaths. That's crazy. The first one was crazy enough. Let me tell you something. The first game of death is one of the worst movies you've ever seen in your fucking life. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:46 You know, there's different reports that he started losing his mind towards the end. You know, like little things. And when you watch that movie, it solidifies that. Well, Bruce Lee was actually only in the last scene, the scene where he fights Colonel Bill Jabbar and Danny Anasano. And he goes up from level.
Starting point is 00:18:06 He had shot that, then he died. They wanted, they had one tenth of the movie and they figured, you know what, we could do this. We could put this shit out. He died in 73 game of death, came out in 1977. They had a fake cream up to Jabbar, a fake Bruce Lee to play the whole movie except the end, the real Bruce Lee comes in.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It was pretty fucking ridiculous. It was fucking embarrassing. It was fucking, in my world, it was fucking embarrassing. I wouldn't go. I wouldn't fall for it. Watch, put the game of death, fine game of death. That'd be better because you could see the fake Bruce Lee. This reef is kicking tonight and shit.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I can't believe I got to be in surgery in fucking 11 hours. God damn, Eddie. For some reason, I'm scared of this fucking surgery too. I think this is the game. No, this is the last thing. This is going to be the actual part that Bruce Lee is in. Yeah, he's actually in this.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Can you find the movie game of death? You want like the whole thing? Let's see what we got because what they're doing is they're actually showing the parts that he was actually in. But most of the movie he wasn't in. Yeah, right there, that Bruce Lee game of death right there. Yeah, look, look what he's dead for four years and they decided to open.
Starting point is 00:19:34 They opened the movie with the scene with Chuck Norris from That's Really Bruce Lee. But that movie was Return of the Dragon. And then it turns out that this movie game of death is about like Bruce Lee, like a superstar, Asian action film star, and he's filming here. And then they say cut. They'll say cut.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And then oh, they were filming the scene and all of a sudden Bruce Lee no more. And you see like some other Bruce Lee lookalike walk away. Watch, check this out. See, look, now they're, is that Bruce Lee? It was Bruce Lee, but is that Bruce Lee? No. Fuck no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:20:16 No. Fuck no, they just, that's how they decided to make the movie. They used to, that's Bruce Lee, that's Bruce Lee. And then they're gonna cut back. Watch, they cut back and it's the fake one. Or they're showed, see that's the fake one. He looks up, they don't get a good shot of his face.
Starting point is 00:20:33 They never really, they always shoot around that dude's face. And then check this scene out, dude. So now the fake Bruce Lee walks away and now he goes by the crew and he's gonna go to his trailer and check out, they put a picture of Bruce Lee's face on this dude and has a conversation with some dude ones.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Check this out. This is the craziest scene of all time. Fake Bruce Lee, he's gonna go to his trailer. Watch. Look at that, that's real Bruce Lee. That's real Bruce Lee. They super, look, see how that, this is, look, now fake Bruce Lee, that's the fake one.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And I got a famous American actor, I forget his name, but that's the real Bruce Lee from another movie. They spliced, that's another movie. Oh my God, it's just so. It's another movie. Fucking embarrassing. Look at the picture though, right here. This is gonna be insane.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Can you turn it up a little? It just reminds me of. Watch. They were very stubborn. Check this out. Their lead guitarist lost a couple of fingers. Real Bruce Lee, another movie. Hands and feet have been known to this too.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Lights fall out of the sky, old kinds of things. Another movie, still, that's the real Bruce Lee. He's gotta have all his parts to make up. Which would agree with that. Fake Bruce Lee. Get the hell out of here. This is just awful. What, just wait.
Starting point is 00:22:15 God awful. Hold on, wait, the money shot is coming up. Well, sitting right there by the telephone. Just wait and see the call. That's a picture of Bruce Lee. No shit. That's a picture of Bruce Lee. No shit.
Starting point is 00:22:34 That's him in Fist of Fucking Fury. Exactly. They just showed two different pictures of him with two different haircuts. This is something that only a fucking, and the world got out right away. When people left Friday night, they're like, don't go see it.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Different movie, and now that's the fake Bruce Lee. It is something that, and they did two or three more, I thought, with the fake Bruce Lee. And the poor people who went to see it. Listen, man, I was, I'll never forget him dying. There's no internet. It wasn't in the newspapers. So we actually had to go to Chinatown.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And in Chinatown is where we found out Bruce Lee was dead. And they actually had the newspapers with him in the casket. And then there were some of these 10 packs of pictures. So for four bucks, you got 10 boy-cotted pictures. The Chinese don't give a fuck. It was like Bruce Lee, two pictures from each movie, and two pictures from the casket. One with him, you could see the casket,
Starting point is 00:23:38 and the other one was like, Steve McQueen and James Colbert carrying the fucking casket. And you think back now, you're like, how much money do these people make? Well, if this guy's name after he fucking died, they made so many fucking movies. You know, when you go to Blockbuster, you see boxes, and they actually say, the real Bruce Lee.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And you sit there and go, how the fuck do these people get away with it? But millions of people fall for that shit, man. I was seven when that Game of Death came out. I didn't know. A kid can't tell. Kids can't tell. That was made for kids.
Starting point is 00:24:17 That wasn't made for adults. That was made to beat fucking adults. They figured 100 adults would go to the movie theater and 25 of them would ask for their money back. That's what they prayed. And you know what? In those days, there was no computerized ticketing. So I could tell you 50 people came to the fucking movie
Starting point is 00:24:35 and steal 25 tickets. It wasn't like it is now. In those days, you gave me cash, I put in the register, I gave you a ticket, and I gave you a friend of your fucking ticket. And I was like, what the fuck? I gave you a ticket and I gave you a friend of your fucking ticket. I'd love to see a documentary on the making of Game of Death.
Starting point is 00:24:53 That would be hysterical. They had a bunch of shit. They had a bunch of shit. Maybe they did. Maybe they did. You know, he did Enter the Dragon, but part of the deal was that they gave him all these movies for him to produce and direct.
Starting point is 00:25:07 But he was losing it. None of the parts that he's in in Game of Death are in any fucking Academy award-winning roles. By that time, he was doing The Voice too much. He was doing The Cat too much. He was starting to do a different cat. Like, what the fuck are you doing, Bruce? You're killing me.
Starting point is 00:25:25 But you know what, man? It's like one of the skinners who knew where Bruce Lee would be today. Was the martial arts still good? Were the fight scenes still good in the movies? Were the garbage like that? Well, when Enter the Dragon came out, that was his big movie. That was on Warner Brothers.
Starting point is 00:25:39 That was his first big movie. He did a Fist of Fury, small Chinese label, Chinese connection, small Chinese label. Return of the Dragon, now that the production's blowing up. But he kills Chuck Norris. And return of the Dragon.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Everybody goes to see that. That's another one that you sit there going, what the fuck am I watching? But he had some pretty good fight scenes, plus he kills Chuck Norris. And the end of the Dragon was the big one. He does it. He has full control.
Starting point is 00:26:09 He's like the man. Warner Brothers said, this is the motherfucking man right here. He had full control of that whole movie. All the fight scenes, everything. He was the man. Then he dies. So he dies right before the movie comes out.
Starting point is 00:26:22 So the movie comes out. It's fucking huge. It's like the biggest thing ever. That's the first movie I went to that was a line. Yeah. Like by that time, there was a line. Look for the fight scene, Enter the Dragon. The second fight scene is possibly
Starting point is 00:26:36 in the tunnel before Han catches him. When he breaks out, he uses every weapon known to mankind. He starts with the bow. He gets the fucking sticks that Lee talked about. Then he gets the new chucks. That's all great and dandy. The other night I was home and it was on.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And I watched the first... I had to go do a spot. And I watched the first couple of minutes right there with O'Hara. Right there. Baddest fight scene ever. You're not even going to remember this, Lee. Now it's 1970 fucking three.
Starting point is 00:27:08 This guy, this white dude, rapes his sister. Put this on loud. Put the volume on Lee. Watch this. Watch Bruce Lee's look on his face when he finds out who he's going to fight. This guy raped his sister as she killed herself.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Look at his fucking face. Yeah. Okay. So now this guy actually knocks in the door and says bring your uniform for the whatever. And Bruce Lee told them outside. Another classic line. Now you're in the movie theater as a...
Starting point is 00:27:39 I'm 10 when this came out, Lee. I'm a green belt in karate and the whole school is there with you. Bud, don't hit back. Bud, don't hit back. And now he got to use his real voice. No overdubs. Well, they had money for these.
Starting point is 00:27:58 No! That dude's still alive, Bud. Watch his hands, Lee. One shot. That's intense. He can't even fucking believe. This guy's still alive, Bob Ward. Bob Ward will come to your house
Starting point is 00:28:19 and tell you stories from the smart 15. Damn. Same fucking movie. What a great choice of... like the scene. The way it's going down. He blocks him with a fucking elbow and he blocks.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Here we go, Lee, watch. Look at this. Stop looking at the thing. Look at this. This is 1973, people. You're at the movie theater going fucking bananas now. That was one of the greatest kicks of all time. Oh, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 But when he gets him with the spinning back kick right here... Don't watch me, Lee. Watch the spinning back kick, kid. Watch this, Lee. Textbook. Bam! Are you fucking kidding me? This guy's getting smacked around
Starting point is 00:29:18 in front of his fucking arm. Another one. He's getting bitch slapped with turning sidekicks. Jim Kelly just died. The black dude just recently died maybe three weeks ago. Look at this right here, Lee. You know what happens to you inside, Lee?
Starting point is 00:29:40 If somebody gets you with that like that. I think somebody broke their arm on this thing. One of the guys sitting down broke his arm. But here it is, his pure Steve McQueen. Someone just dropped a bottle. Well, they didn't have thermoses. They had water bottles in their face. Look at this crazy fuck.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Oh, there goes the elbow. Oh, there goes the equilibrium and the ear. This is the shot right here. That's the look. You just lost your mind at the movie thing. Your head exploded. No, there was no weed necessary. Nobody could do kung fu like this, man.
Starting point is 00:30:36 No, no, no. Don't ever eat nothing. His acting was fucking awesome. His fight scenes, they were all just... Now he looks at this motherfucker now. Look at him. What? What the fuck do you want?
Starting point is 00:30:47 Eyeballing me, son. Look at this. This is the best Giso under the arm. He's dead. Giso right here. Oh, horror's treachery has disgraced us. That was fucking one of the greatest scenes of all time. That stands the test of motherfucking time right there.
Starting point is 00:31:17 It kills you. It gets you. The way he walked when he broke the... The way he walked to him, he's just like... Like a father, you know what I mean? What would you do? What would you do? He just looked at him and said,
Starting point is 00:31:27 you're not fucking serious, are you? You're really not serious. I just fucked you up and let you live and you're gonna bust two bottles. Yeah. It was just sensational. And he was dead a week before that movie came out. He died a week before that movie came out.
Starting point is 00:31:44 It was already on the street that it was a fucking masterpiece. And, you know, it was just... I saw all these movies at a place called at Cinetoni or the cinema. If the cinema didn't have it, or we even wanted to see it, it would always... Whenever it was at the cinema,
Starting point is 00:31:59 it was always at Cinetoni. He was owned by a Cuban dude with a wig. But all the movies had Spanish translations. The movies were in English, but with Spanish, so... All the guys that came after him sucked so bad and the movies were so horrible that you could take any one of those movies from like Kung Fu Theater,
Starting point is 00:32:19 and you could do whatever you want with them. They're all public domain. Nobody fucking owns them. You could take... You could do whatever you want with those movies, those shitty Kung Fu movies, all those Bruce Lee ripoff movies. They're worth nothing.
Starting point is 00:32:31 They're worth nothing. Public domain, all of those. People... They shot... Eddie, I remember going to Puerto Rico in 1973, a couple weeks after Bruce Lee died. Me and this kid named Jimmy Crespo, our parents were friends, and all both our families went.
Starting point is 00:32:47 But him and I had the same agenda every day. We went to the fucking beach. We went home. We ate. We took a nap and we caught a fucking Kung Fu man there. We saw Matt. We were down there learning days. We saw a different Kung Fu movie every fucking day.
Starting point is 00:33:03 That's how popular they were. They were coming out by the bundles, even more so than the American movies. My favorite movies I watched in Puerto Rico were The One-Armed Swordsman. I don't remember any of that shit. Jesus, I don't remember. The Master of the Flying Guillotine.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Do you remember that? I remember that. That's the only thing I remember. Sonny Chiba put a couple crazy ones out for a while. He was eating people's tongues and shit like that. Sonny Chiba. Do you remember Killer Be Killed by something Ryan? They were trying to bust out another Chuck Norris
Starting point is 00:33:36 or some white guy, and the movie's called Killer Be Killed. And Chuck Norris, his first three or four movies were not bad guys. Good men were black. Chuck Norris was legit. He transcended and started doing like missing an action and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Missing an action. I'll tell you what his favorite movie might be. Coat of Silence. Chuck Norris was fucking... Dennis Farina here, with a crazy drug dealer who would give people Colombian neckties. The mob was involved.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Great story, 1984. I don't know what happened. People playing from time to time. Coat of Silence, Chuck Norris. Yeah, that was it for me, Eddie. Chuck Norris has a black belt in Brazil in Jiu Jitsu. Does he really? Yeah, through the Machados.
Starting point is 00:34:18 His karate association is giant, and all the black belts are required to do Jiu Jitsu. That's how evolutionary he is. What happened with Chuck Norris was he was involved with something called Tang Sudo. It was Tang Sudo, Tang Sudo, Tang Sudo. When the Koreans said they got into it, then he took Tang Sudo,
Starting point is 00:34:42 and the other guys took the Move the Kwan section of it, which is the same stuff, basically. When I moved to Colorado, one of the first guys I went to, through the Colorado Mountain College, when you went to the classroom, it was him and Chuck Norris. They had been the originators of that style,
Starting point is 00:34:59 and then they broke apart. Yeah, Bruce Lee was originally a Wing Chung guy. He was a traditional martial artist, and in Wing Chung, they generally don't believe in kicking to the head, because for whatever reason, you can get off balance and fall to the ground. They like kicking low,
Starting point is 00:35:19 and that's what Bruce Lee was about. When he met Chuck Norris, he's Tang Sudo, and Tang Sudo is basically Taekwondo, which means lots of head kicks and spinning kicks. Chuck Norris was responsible for... They've had debates and shit personally, and Chuck Norris is the reason Bruce Lee started opening up to high kicks.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Chuck Norris said, hey, man, if you can kick the head, why not kick the motherfucking head? You land one shot in the head, and that's a grand slam right there. Why not have grand slams in your chamber? You know what I mean? Like, why?
Starting point is 00:35:52 You understand, you know, especially like even in the UFC, there's a lot of guys that never kick high. They want to stay standing. They don't want to take any chance, because they know if they kick high, and they fuck up, and the guy takes them down, that could be the whole fight right there.
Starting point is 00:36:05 One high kick, like a Chris Wideman, you know what I mean? So a lot of guys never throw head kicks, or rarely, there's a bunch of current, huge UFC stars that just won't throw to the head, and that's the way Bruce Lee was, until Chuck Norris convinced him to... Well, if you want to do TV and films,
Starting point is 00:36:22 you have to kick to the head for the effect. Nobody wants to see six body shots, and well, the guy's kidney got fucked. Exactly, exactly. They want to see... I'm talking about personally, for his style, because in the movies, Bruce Lee was always throwing head kicks. Right, he was always throwing head kicks.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah, and that, you know, that pissed off a lot of his original students, because his original students came from the school that Bruce Lee was teaching that you don't kick to the head, and don't do fancy shit. It was all about just really practical, the best shit. Like, the best shit's going to be a headbutt to the face, that's the opening move.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Elbow to the face, kick to the balls, get it quick, put them out, no fucking jabs, just two or three shots, and it should be a done deal. If he's not done with the first two or three shots, your style sucks. It's basically what the original was, but then once he started doing movies and doing all sorts of shit that he preached against,
Starting point is 00:37:12 his original students were like, dude, you thought it was a kind of like, you know, in a weird way kind of sound out, but Bruce was like, hey, listen, movies, that's a different fucking thing. No one wants to see ball shots constantly or a headbutt to the face. They want to see crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Because I understood the Wing Chun style, and the Wing Chun style uses kicks in sort of a way like Kempo. If you see the old really good Kempo guys, they block you, and then they throw a short kick at your thigh, and with that short kick, they step in. So that movement is really not wasted.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Do you follow me? I'm boxing you. I'm boxing you. I'm boxing you. I'm boxing you. I see you. I go to counter. I'm going to throw a punch,
Starting point is 00:38:01 but when I'm throwing a punch, I'm throwing a kick low, wild. It's a weird kick they have. And they even like, it's a slap kick to go and to move your hands, and that's Wing Chun. They move your hand and just throw, and then they get out real quick.
Starting point is 00:38:18 But to start and get out, it's a little leg kick that you actually, sometimes it throws you off. You don't expect it, you know? I'm very torn. And I want to understand how much of it is nostalgia, because if you were watching the movie today,
Starting point is 00:38:37 2016, everything is bad, direction, acting. Some movies do stand the test of time and enter the dragon is when it's like apocalypse now. It's like The Godfather. You know when you watch The Godfather? You don't see shitty production. You see epic shots.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You see epic filmmaking. You go back, but you're right though. Most movies don't stand the test of time. You see shit production. Yeah, but there's a difference between like standing the test of time and these are just like, I guess maybe it's because they're from China.
Starting point is 00:39:15 No, enter the dragon. Watch, you know what? Watch End of the Dragon and then... No, no, no, no. Watch Fist of Fury first. And watch his humble fucking beginnings. And then watch Chinese Connection. Because Chinese Connection
Starting point is 00:39:29 already launched them in the States. After Chinese Connection, Eddie, he was huge. And now Americans are sitting there folding at their mouths. And it drops way in the dragon. So this was entertaining. Way in the dragon was so big
Starting point is 00:39:46 it made it to HBO late night. And then it ended up being called Return of the Dragon. And then he had Return of the Dragon. But End of the Dragon's better than all that. All that other shit was like the first couple. And then he had to say, it's like Clint Eastwood's Spaghetti Westerns. You could not dismiss his spaghetti Westerns.
Starting point is 00:40:02 They're classic spaghetti Westerns. You know, he put his heart into them. There was really no dough involved. He had nothing going on there. His TV show got canceled. He had nothing to lose. And if you ever have, like you like watching fucking,
Starting point is 00:40:20 you'll sit there and watch Orange is the New Black for nine hours. Is that good? That's good. If I have nine hours, this guy's girlfriend thinks it's good. It's okay, show. So if you have nine hours,
Starting point is 00:40:33 like this week I have 22 hours to watch TV. And if I hang them high, the good and the bad, the ugly, or one of those films comes on, I will watch it. I will run onto the balcony, smoke dope, even if it's on AMC with commercial. Because I have the time.
Starting point is 00:40:53 There's nowhere I could go with straws in my nose. Those movies are so... You know, you have to do, it's white belt shit, but you have to watch it to understand what he did later on. That's why there's so many people that love the unforgiving. I'm an outlaw Josie Wales guy.
Starting point is 00:41:14 That's a Walter Brothers film. You follow me and so, and at this time he had put on, this is when they were shooting westerns all the fucking time. Jesus Christ. You can't get out that way. There's a glass door there. Yeah, this is when you, you, you, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:33 he was, what's that word people use? Well, you don't want to be torn into something or the same role over and over. Oh, yeah, I know what you're saying. Pigeon hell. And then he picked up the fucking, whatever, then he picked up the fucking, the dirty Harry thing.
Starting point is 00:41:53 And then he went back to like the outlaw Josie Wales. Outlaw Josie Wales like 76. Then in 80 something he put out the unforgiven. So if you watch the unforgiven, it's great. But if you watch those early films, you know, all that early shit he did, that was brilliant stockly. It just takes patience
Starting point is 00:42:14 and a woman's not going to watch for you. It doesn't really matter. You order Chinese, you get two different dishes, you get a couple appetizers, you get a couple cans of fucking soda, gown the water and you put the food on the stove and you put on these three films and you really watch what America,
Starting point is 00:42:30 what in the town, what a great job they did. The same thing happened with Bruce Lee. Okay. Bruce Lee had a show called The Green Hornet and the show got canceled. And then they came to him with another idea for a show. But a man that travels all across the country
Starting point is 00:42:49 and the word on the street was Bruce Lee was going to get a TV show and at the end of the show he's going to do Kung Fu. Guess what happened at the end? The network decided he was too Asian and they didn't want to commit. So they got a white guy to play an Asians role and that broke Bruce Lee's heart.
Starting point is 00:43:06 How could it not? So Bruce Lee ended up getting a deal to make a show that was released as The Big Boss. To us it was released as Fista Fury. Okay. It's a really good film but I feel the Chinese connection was a lot better. When the Chinese connection came out
Starting point is 00:43:28 that was it. That fucking put them to a new level in the United States. Why do you think they don't make these movies anymore? Because they don't have the lead. These were independent films. The three Spaghetti from Westerns, the four he made were independent films. The four movies Bruce Lee made
Starting point is 00:43:52 three before Enter the Dragon were independent films. So do you understand that it was a different time. It was a different place for this type of shit. It wasn't about budgets and whatever. On the other hand, the United States, what are you doing Lee? What are you looking for?
Starting point is 00:44:11 You make me nervous. What are you looking for? I'm just turning that mic off. The United States at that time is releasing some of the greatest films they've released in the history of cinema. The first five years of 75 are some of the greatest films released in cinema.
Starting point is 00:44:32 From The Godfather to Deer Hunter. Deer Hunter and Taxi Driver came later on in 78 and 79. So here's Bruce Lee fighting for his life. If you look at the films that got released from 70 to 73, 74. So he was going up against major. He was going up against major films. Now, when he came out with the United States,
Starting point is 00:44:55 when he came out with Warner Brothers, it was a completely different game. He had hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising. People were waiting for Bruce Lee. And all of a sudden, the word got out, he died, which made the fucking movie even bigger. Ten days before he comes out. But to answer your question now,
Starting point is 00:45:17 I know you're coming from the Feeding Grow Up or Bruce Lee fan, Fisa Fury, Chinese Connection, Return of the Dragon. You're going to see the shit production. You're going to see it because you're just like, there's not a nostalgic thing going on there. But Enter the Dragon. If you don't know Bruce Lee at all,
Starting point is 00:45:35 that's the first thing you see. That stands at test time. That's high quality production right there. Right. But there's also a point to be made for him taking over the country, it seemed like. Like how could an eight year old boy not love this dude going in and just destroying an entire dojo?
Starting point is 00:45:54 When I came from Cuba on the weekends, my mom always did things. She always did different things. And then we go back to the bar. And I still remember being a little boy and stopping at a gas station. And those days golf, golf, that gas station golf. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:14 You got a notebook. And every time you go in and got gas, they gave you a coin. And if you filled the fucking notebook up with the coins, you got something. And I don't think you forget that I got those coins and I wanted to win something, but it didn't matter because the green one that was coming on at seven.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I still remember going home as a four or five year old and watching this Chinese guy and going, wow. Yeah. Before he made his movies, he actually had, was on an American show, The Green Hornet. The Green Hornet. He was like Batman and Robin. He was Robin.
Starting point is 00:46:46 He was Robin. On the Green Hornet. And then once that show got canceled really quick, then maybe two seasons, it got canceled. Not even, not even. It got canceled. So then he went to China to, I think. His father died.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah. And that's when they approached him. And next thing you know, he left his family here and went over there when he shot those films. Because in China, the fact that there was a Chinese guy on an American show. They know who he was. He was huge in China.
Starting point is 00:47:12 He had no idea. From a shitty little show, he was fucking huge. He was a hero. He shows up in China. And that's when the movie houses started. Raymond Chao, I think. Raymond Chao. He said, he signed him and started.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And the first movie, he was supposed to be a co-star. First movie, he wasn't the main guy. But after a couple of weeks of filming, and he just fucking took over the camera work and the fight choreography. So the producer said, okay, we're going to rewrite the script a little bit. This motherfucker, this guy is going to be the star.
Starting point is 00:47:44 They changed it in the first movie. And the first movie, he just took over. They're like, oh shit, that's the motherfucking man. So they redid everything. And then from that point on, it was just, he was on an ascension to fucking. But that, you see how now, like, people eat acai bowls.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Right. People would eat acai bowls. They wouldn't give a fuck. They wouldn't eat them. But since it's a Brazilian jiu-jitsu thing, people eat them. It's a Brazilian culture thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:14 It's the same thing that happened in this country when Bruce Lee took over. And I said it one time in the army thing, he represented all immigrants. So I want you to think of a different time. You know, you had Charles Bronson. What color is Charles Bronson? White as shit.
Starting point is 00:48:31 What color is Clint Eastwood? Same thing. You know, so we really didn't have, we had shaft. Black people had shafts. Chico and the man. Chico and the man came in 78, 79, you know, 77. But right then when Bruce Lee came along,
Starting point is 00:48:49 he represented everybody who was the little guy. Hope. He represented something else. But the other thing you saw was martial arts became fucking huge. Like, I saw a magazine, Black Belt, go from 30 pages to 100. You know, like now people were into it.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Judo schools were opening up. Kung Fu schools were opening up. Karate schools were opening up. Taekwondo schools were still, nobody was still into Taekwondo. Taekwondo is that dude down the corner. They charge 85 instead of 100. Not even.
Starting point is 00:49:30 It's bullshit. I think I paid 50 to go to Gojumru Karate in those days, unlimited. But it made everybody more aware. You know, everybody wanted to be... It's funny because they were talking about gym wars. You know, people always talk about the gym wars that, you know, down in Brazil and AT&T and fucking...
Starting point is 00:49:50 And what's the selling one up here? A-K-A, you know? And I remember that in our neighborhood, which is much like Eddie's in a lot of ways, not everybody went to the same karate school. So Mario Diaz went to Fooja, Paikung Fu. This other kid from up the block went to, like, Goju Karate.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I went to Gojumru, and this kid, Glenn Cologne, was a black belt in three things at the time. And everybody would eat dinner. And we'd meet at Mario Diaz. He was a Chinese Cuban kid. His last name was spelled with an E. And we would go to his basement, and we'd each do a form.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Somebody would teach a form from their school, like on Mondays, Eddie, you teach something today. Then on Wednesday, you would teach something. So we'd all learn something from each other's school. And then after about an hour, Eddie, it was on. It was on. When you're 12 and 13, you don't feel dick, though. It was on.
Starting point is 00:50:52 We broke those walls. We tore each other's little sheet rock walls. He wouldn't let the father down there. He would have to put boxes around the wall. I'll never forget he called me one day. Because it's over, my father found. There was holes everywhere. We used to hang the Maki Rao's up.
Starting point is 00:51:09 You know what they are? Maki Hara, Maki Rao. Hara is a skinny thing with a little two inch thing, and you stand in front of it, and throw fucking punches and shit. So we had all the beams all fucked up. We tried to hang a heavy bag down there. But the point of the story is, Eddie,
Starting point is 00:51:27 I used to leave there bleeding from my mouth every fucking night. Like they would fuck you up. You had a little mini fight club. It was a fight club without black eyes and shit like that. What would happen is you would be lights barring. Okay. And all of a sudden, Eddie would kick me a little harder than what he's been kicking me.
Starting point is 00:51:46 You know what I'm saying? So now I gotta hit Eddie a little harder until we just let him know. And now it becomes this, and there was no headgear. There was no hang things. It was just us. And the mouth guards? Mouth guards, yes.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Oh, really? Okay. Mouth guards, yes. But it's just so crazy. I went through that whole thing. I saw the growth. No Brazilian jujitsu. None. The most foreign thing there was,
Starting point is 00:52:11 there was a black dude in the Bronx that thought survived the French kicking or kicking. That was as crazy as it got. How crazy is it that even during that time in Brazil, jujitsu was huge? Huge. Huge. All through, I mean, the whole, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:29 I guess from the 20s on, really, there was a Brazilian jujitsu scene going on, and the world did not know about this. But America had not seen it. No. But if you really watch Chinese connection, he gets Bruce Lee in an armbar, and Bruce Lee bites his way out.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Yep, yep. No, no, in the Chinese connection, it entered the dragon in the first scene. He puts a dude in an armbar. He puts a dude in an armbar. It was a shitty armbar. Whatever it was, you could see that. He was already, yes.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah, yeah. You could see that he was already knew what it was. Yeah. I wonder if he knew what the Brazilians were doing. I wonder if he knew what we heard about the Grace. He had to have, right? He was a famous martial artist. He hung out with the most famous of people.
Starting point is 00:53:15 He had to have known about Brazilian jujitsu, but he learned, for sure, he learned some grappling from Jean LaBelle. He learned a lot of grappling. There's like famous stories where him and Jean were kind of fucking around and Jean LaBelle kind of just tossed him up a little bit with grappling. Tell me if I'm wrong, but how is it okay
Starting point is 00:53:36 to compare Bruce Lee to Hoyler for the UFC? Because I was watching like that, like look back, because I didn't see that Hoyler match. I don't know anything about it. Well, here's the big question. The big question is Bruce Lee did demonstrations. Okay. He did the one inch punch,
Starting point is 00:53:52 and he must have done a lot of the things. Bruce Lee was a great martial artist for the movies, and nobody ever saw him fight in the ring, you know? Never in the ring, but he did fight people on set. On set. Because a lot of the extras were actual fighters, and they tried to challenge him, and there's been many stories where he fucked people up
Starting point is 00:54:14 like for real, like, but not in a sport, in a cage or in a ring or anything like that. No problem. He wasn't into that. There wasn't no fucking phones with cameras. So nobody ever got to see those footage. So when you look at Bruce Lee, you have to look at Bruce Lee through two different sets of eyes.
Starting point is 00:54:31 The reason why it's very hard to sell Bruce Lee to somebody of your age is because he's just a Chinese guy. It's a martial artist. He did three movies. His kicks were tremendous, whatever, but the production value and shit stuns you a little bit. As a young guy, hey, when I was 20, I would not even think of watching a black and white movie.
Starting point is 00:54:52 The only black and white thing I watched was the money movies. Twilight Zone. And the Twilight Zone. But that's, for me, if somebody came to me and said, I want to start watching movies, give me 10 movies, I would recommend Chinese Connection and Into the Dragon.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Definitely. Without even fucking thinking twice. Because they had to see it. But they would go, hey, it was great. Bruce Lee was great. The other end of Bruce Lee was because he opened up a big spectrum in this country. He gave people, little guys, a chance.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Little guys joined karate. Karate schools went from having three students to 25 fucking students. Twentime it started flourishing, you know, flourishing. You know, the classes were packed. Packed. It was all the impact of Bruce Lee. All those little sayings he would say and everything.
Starting point is 00:55:46 When Bruce Lee died, that was a hard time for me in my house. Already I was going to Chinatown and buying the white shirts with the blue and the shoes. Where would you wear those? Just out? Everywhere. To school.
Starting point is 00:56:01 They thought I was fucking metallic. I can't believe you. I would wear them to my mom's bar. I would get goofed on by the customers at the bar. I didn't give a fuck, Eddie. I loved it. I loved the whole thing when it stood for. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:56:15 It made people get out of the house and work out, you know, and made people throw kicks. It also made people go crazy. Like, you're a C crazy. You know, everybody, you got into a pushing match that got into a cat stance and one of them throw karate kick at you. So now you're like, Jesus fucking Christ.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Everybody I'm fighting is a fucking black belt. And they really weren't. They were all just doing what they were mimicking from the movies, you know. Right. Well, and that's more what I meant with Heuler is just the... I mean, Heuss.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Heuss. I'm sorry. Heuler's his brother. Heuss with the feeling around it, getting people excited about it, getting people going to jiu-jitsu classes like that. Yeah, Heuss definitely changed the world in a whole different kind of way.
Starting point is 00:57:06 The first UFC I saw, I was doing karate and I immediately dropped it and started doing jiu-jitsu. Like that just blew jiu-jitsu out the water when Heuss did. It was revolutionary. I mean, I mean, if it's been going on for so forever, we didn't know about it. Nobody knew about it.
Starting point is 00:57:24 He came along and gave martial arts even a broader view. People had been coming over the years and giving little peaks into different styles of martial arts and martial arts they developed. But he really, you know, fucking gave it a different view. This is jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Here's this guy. That's Joe Diaz's size. And he's on top of whatever. And this guy gets out of it. And then triangle's the guy. I don't know what the fuck the moves he was doing, but that's what I saw. And I'm like, that's fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Even though there's no striking, because that must be hard. Especially no striking. There's no striking in jiu-jitsu. With Bruce Lee, it's a little bit more exciting even if you don't know anything about karate. But no, Heus Gracie was the first guy in the UFC champion.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Right. No, no, no. That was punching there. In the UFC, yes. I just meant jiu-jitsu as an art. Yeah. There's no punching in jiu-jitsu as an art, as a sport, because you know, brain damage.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Right. Most people, 99.999999999% of the world, including myself, they don't want to go into a goddamn cage and go to, very few people have the balls to do that. But the rest of the world still appreciates the martial arts and jiu-jitsu, especially if they're into it. So jiu-jitsu is a way to...
Starting point is 00:58:52 It's like playing a game. It's like wrestling, but instead of wrestling, the object is to... The objective is to pan a guy's shoulders to the ground for three seconds to jitsu. It's sort of like that except The goal is to make someone tap out and when you make someone tap out It's because you put them in a chokehold or some kind of some kind of joint Lock and that you know, although there's no striking just that alone is pretty badass because you got you know The game of trying to make someone tap out is it's it's incredible
Starting point is 00:59:23 You get a dig to do it and get obsessed with it because the better you get at that game that game Translates the real life. Even though there's no striking in the dojo I'll put you know, if you do jiu-jitsu for a couple years The odds are in a street fight against a guy who doesn't do jiu-jitsu. The odds are so much in your favor So much even though you've never thrown a strike in the dojo You know punches no elbows But you've been doing jiu-jitsu for two years on the street even though there is striking if your jiu-jitsu is on point You're not gonna need striking it to immobilize, you know, this douche bag, you know
Starting point is 00:59:57 I hate to talk about this on the show Because I don't like to centralize the show if you watched Anderson Against Daniel Kormie last night You know, everybody's saying that Daniel Kormie you should have done a lot more damage his jiu-jitsu kept only the balance off
Starting point is 01:00:20 Anderson so the jiu-jitsu yeah, and this is so he got him in the lockdown for a while A lot of things yeah, I don't understand all the other variations of his style of jiu-jitsu But I saw that but I saw that he kept your owner's balance off You know just that tech just that little thing about jiu-jitsu He's been doing jiu-jitsu. I don't know and this is over 20 years something like now I'm about 20 I think we're like 15. Let's say 15 Jesus Christ in Brazil Do you know what he knows Lee? Even if you break both his wrist and he grabs your legs like that
Starting point is 01:00:58 He survived he lost the fight, but you know what he didn't get knocked out His jiu-jitsu Help helped him survive. Oh, don't you think that is also just to point out how good Kormie is that he held down Anderson? Like that. I don't mean is that an Olympic wrestler, right? Yeah, he's so he did by getting on top by taking Anderson Silva down Jiu-jitsu isn't the art of not getting taken down So if it was if jiu-jitsu was the art of not getting taken down against wrestling, which is the art of taking someone down Then he has a Daniel Kormie beat Anderson style, but that's not the style the style jiu-jitsu is just get the fight to on the ground It's better to be on top, but if you're on your back and your jiu-jitsu is is
Starting point is 01:01:43 decent you still got game and Here is you can look at it and make no mistake about it Daniel Kormie beat Anderson Silva, but he didn't finish him and Anderson Silva is mostly known for striking his jiu-jitsu is like always his backup plan He's never trying to do jiu-jitsu. He's trying to strike He was a striker who started learning jiu-jitsu because he was an MMA you have to but that's not his forte is forte is striking So buddy knew jiu-jitsu good enough and he is a black belt to survive an Olympic wrestlers onslaught of strikes Daniel Kormie Kormie I could have thrown as many elbows to the face as he wanted to he could have punched him a
Starting point is 01:02:22 Thousand times in the face if he wanted to you could have taken down I'm just buddy didn't he took him down and got wrapped up and tied up and it wasn't some random type It was a specific jiu-jitsu tie-ups to survive some guy trying to bash you down some giant Olympic wrestler wanted to If he could have put ten elbows right through Anderson Silva Stacey would have did it, but he couldn't I mean, I I found the fight it wasn't as entertaining as I would have liked it, but there was no difference between that fight and the Glesner fight. Yeah, it was you're right. It wasn't it wasn't very entertaining
Starting point is 01:02:59 That's not I was talking about survival the survival that he did entertainment. Yeah, I was it was pretty I wasn't if Fucko would have done What Anderson did in half guard and did the lockdown he wouldn't have got punched in the face 15 times Right because the kid wouldn't be able to set up He would not be able to fucking set up first of all. He's got a fucking mountain for his stomach right away. You're off balance Right away. You're all balance So if he were to lock his knees together and just fucking hip bump himself He would have had a mount again right when he's going to throw a punch fucking hip bump him again
Starting point is 01:03:37 Right hip bump him again. That's what Anderson was doing. Anderson was picking him up He was two inches away. He can't go back and hit him When I when somebody comes to me and they go, what do you think of this fight? I repeat you that guy And I always go with the guy who's got the black belt and jujitsu if he's got some fucking coral stripes I even go with him more Because I know he's been in hell I know he's been in hell. He's been in hell a thousand times
Starting point is 01:04:04 Those guys are in fucking hell. Once you see him at the brown belt level They're not even breathing heavy. Eddie doesn't even breathe it. Eddie taught teachers and Fucking looks around like a momo and looking And you know, that's just a complete different gift So I always used that I knew I either thought Anderson was going to walk and knock him the fuck out Or they were going to ground them until he got them down And I could see that he wouldn't let he's been he's a fucking professional And this is silver wasn't the champion
Starting point is 01:04:34 For seven years because he sucked guys, right? Okay, so That's what you know, the advantage is the even it's a fucking blue belt. You can turn people's balance off Once you get to the brown belt level, that's the first thing that goes is your balance You're like, what the fuck am I doing all the way over here? I'm across the fucking room It's it's just a beautiful art. It's just a A beautiful fucking art. How many stripes you got on your belt right now? Three. You got three stripes. Damn. Yeah, but I'm terrible You're almost I did good today. I did good today. You trained today? Yeah, fuck you shit. What did you had a submission today?
Starting point is 01:05:11 Uh, no, I did something better than submission. Would you do a pass? Two deep half fucking flings part of my deep half is I throw the motherfuckers don't roll with that. I'm not holding on to them and recovering my guard That's what I should be doing. Get them into side control from that fucking. So once you sweep them, what happens? They're three feet away from me But you but you're not on top of any you sweep them, but you don't get on top and control They're three feet away from me. They land three feet away. Yes. I gotta figure something the fuck
Starting point is 01:05:43 How you throw you gotta you gotta not use so much power So I clinch my knees and I muck mess around with them And I try to control them with my knees clinched And then they fall for the bait and I stick my hand under that leg And I pick them up and I try to get the leg and I hide this arm And then I walk this way and then I spin real fucking quick But that little spin has been throwing them up my loop and I gotta start all over again Man, I want to see video you rolling man. I want to see no, it's terrible horrifically bad horrifically bad
Starting point is 01:06:13 No, come on. Oh horrifically bad But you know what man? I'm gonna do the surgery to breathe a little better I think I'm gonna go see the nutritionalist and really work it down to the centimeter Do you do you generally get a submission each time you roll? One maybe one every one one at least I'm going For submissions, which would which is the submission that you you get more most often the most popular submission I go there's a trick people with them. I love the college. Oh, I'm a fat dude So I ain't doing much out of the ordinary. My game is not gonna be much or no of the ordinary
Starting point is 01:06:53 So I try to put one hook into your right side And then I fake like I'm gonna go for the fucking armbar and I pull And before he knows it, I get my other hook in there and I let my leg open my garden They swing to that side like a fucking gorilla. So it's 300 pounds hanging like in that honey way And I just try to sneak my hand up Every time I go for an armbar I fuck it up. Do you ever get that bow and arrow choke from the back? You ever do that one? You ever get someone's back and choke them?
Starting point is 01:07:27 It's funny. The other day I was on Joe's podcast when we were talking about my Roy Nelson Doesn't get people's back when you're a heavy guy. It's very hard to get people's back. This really gets in the way So you're very rarely. I don't know. I haven't never really seen a big heavier type guy Take a lot of backs, you know It's too many steps. Even the armbar is too many steps for me If I got you in that compromise Sometimes I put my knee over your belly, but it's to trick you into a comorra I don't really go for armbars. I don't like dropping my back like that
Starting point is 01:08:03 Besides if I get you right, I might break your arm by mistake. So I don't even fuck with those I like triangles. That's what I have to do. Fake the armbar and go for triangles. I got strong legs from the mount From the bottom. I'm trying to work on the bottom. Yeah, I don't like nothing on top To me, that's not what I got involved in the art for the art for me was To learning to be really good from the bottom You know to learning to be really good from the bottom Every time I'm in class I always take the quickest people and they pass my garden fuck me up But I don't give a fuck because eventually I'm like get them
Starting point is 01:08:39 I'm gonna figure out how to do my legs and give me that my extra inch You know matt baker your buddy has a good point if you're not on your back, they can't pass your garden So it's kind of weird. I'm trying to put all that stuff together. So Nice it's a journey for me, man But at the same time it's helping my stand up and it's helping me because Like I told somebody else I was sitting here when you do when you go to karate you fucking uh Figure out you can't throw a kick six feet
Starting point is 01:09:09 So your coach says on the weekends hang a hook on your fucking roof And put a strap and hang your leg and Learn how to stretch your legs a little more, you know, or you don't have enough punching power in karate if you're a kukas and karate guy So they make you do bench presses and hit more stuff, you know When I joined jujitsu I found that I couldn't do a lot of those stuff that was physically But the mental part of it was the part that I was really disappointed with myself Because I had this fear of people on top of me And that's the worst thing I hate is when I have fear or something
Starting point is 01:09:45 Some things you have fear of and you put them together in your head and you go, you know what? I could deal with that when it comes with But somebody getting on top of you that could happen any day when you're walking down the street with your daughter and your wife and your child And what are you doing? You're not gonna know what to do. You know, I'm saying I'm going into my 50s There's no way I'm in a karate chop. You're doing a flying side kick through the fucking air But if I could single you and throw you down and get on top of you put my shoulder on you
Starting point is 01:10:16 And put my forearm in your neck I got three minutes to get to the car before you even see your Adams apples coming out of your fucking asshole You know Breaking some of these on I'm real quick. I'm getting the car I like those little things about jujitsu choking somebody, you know, you could choke somebody with a winter jacket It's a collie choke. Yeah T-shirt. It's a collie choke. You know with a fucking t-shirt So these are all the things that I'm getting older that
Starting point is 01:10:43 I didn't want to have those fears I didn't know that my cardio was just horrific from smoking reefer And becoming a vertical breather. I had no idea about these things that popped up in my life at 40 There's no way I could be a father to have these shortcomings There was no way we're doing the shape of the world today. I got to be able to run 10 minutes I'm at a park and they start shooting at it You got to pick your kid up and run with that fucking She's 50 fucking pounds or so. Yeah, she's a human kettlebell
Starting point is 01:11:14 So what I do is when I walk out of school, I pick her up and I walk with it This first block and my goal is to make it to the office. I don't even make it to the office But I make it like three doors down and shit like that Because those are the fears I couldn't have for the daughter Man, it's it's amazing here. I I didn't really uh know this before I mean you're real you're really looking at at fatherhood in um In a super realistic way like you know what I mean, you gotta you now you got a daughter
Starting point is 01:11:47 You got to be able to protect her by you know, that's what I tell people all the time Like just at the very least there's a lot of things you could do you can learn jujitsu for but at the very least to protect your family At the very least you want to protect your family if some shit goes down You're out at the movies. You're in line. You're with your kid. There's a fucking douchebag and something's going down I mean Who knows if uh, the jujitsu is gonna work all the time But you got to do what you got to do or can do To shift the odds in your favor and just one year of jujitsu just one year and time flies so far
Starting point is 01:12:19 How many times just one year you have say I don't even I'm the name too off the bat How many times have you seen somebody take a punch? Get over somebody Over commit and get trapped in a line bar. I've seen two. How about you? Few times Fredor against bradun and joe lozan had one that was
Starting point is 01:12:46 textbook I think against the black kid On bar from the guard. Is that what you're talking about? But after I punch you in the fucking mount hard I go backwards. I hold on to that arm right there as i'm going back I pull you into me. I over commit you. You're like you fucking idiot. You grab my wrist I start hitting you with this and I've seen joe lozan on bar somebody while he's getting beat the fuck up And I've also seen fade all punching away at fucking verdun when he nailed them with an arm bar
Starting point is 01:13:16 No garra and mark Coleman. There you go So I figured that that's a great protection thing right there You could take one punch Which we all can and fall backwards and suck this guy in of him to grab you with three beers in him Or whatever the fuck drug he has in him He doesn't even see your hand going around and pulling your elbow And next thing you know, your leg swings around and you fucking lean back and pick up your hips and you hear And you are you fuck are you fuck
Starting point is 01:13:48 You pull your leg around you stick your boot in his fucking mouth and you kick the rest of his fucking teeth out While he's yelling and shot you're getting your car and you're gone. Nobody knows nothing You pull three blocks away. You see your homeless during the trade them sneakers. Hey, how about a brand new pair of They got a red stripe. That means you're a fucking animal. You know what I'm saying And you have to look at little things like that when you have a family And when you get older, you don't want no fears I didn't want no fucking fears every time I got on my back I would think the world was that thing any problem. I thought the world was that thing any problem
Starting point is 01:14:22 You did a lot of uh, working out and athletic stuff when you were younger You always say you wish you did you did too in you were younger? Why do you think you didn't do it or something? It wasn't available. Nothing you didn't you did too became available 93 94 Not for me. I lived in boulder at that time and I was taking taekwondo tanksudo moodakwon It wasn't available yet in boulder It didn't become available to me time moved to los angeles I did a year later. I met you and it became available to me
Starting point is 01:14:54 But I don't know what the fuck you were talking about between doing a fucking unborn snorting coke Your arm's gonna work tonight. You know what I'm saying? I ain't fucking coming down at 6 30 at night Having a kid will make you Think about stuff like that though for sure I mean, I remember Taking drako and he's one or even younger just in a stroller every day taking him for a walk And there was this one dog that there's behind a fence in our neighborhood that would come up and bark and Man, it was a German Shepherd. The thing would probably fuck me up. But when my son's there
Starting point is 01:15:33 There'd be no fear. I could just imagine just grabbing that dog John just breaking it open, you know what I mean? Like when you have a kid There is no fear. Mike Tyson came up to you and and fucked with your kid You'd jump on that motherfucker with that a hesitation that wouldn't even be a delay You know when you have a kid you just jump in and you just go to war die Well for me, it was a lot of other things it was It was I was getting the kids so I wanted a new beginning for myself of doing something And I also wanted to do something that was hard for me. That wasn't easy
Starting point is 01:16:09 The last thing I ever did that was hard for me was comedy That just wasn't easy. You know today I woke up this morning. I got up early. I did some right and I got really stoned And I uh My fucking knee got tight. My wife left the church I went to the weed store No, I went to CVS to pick up my prescriptions Then I went to the weed store by left myself on the car
Starting point is 01:16:37 And uh, you know, I'm getting surgery tomorrow. I may have to take two weeks off from jiu-jitsu. Eddie. I can't tell you how bad I feel Because I've been on a roll for the last six months over there on a roll on a roll Like not killing people, but at least I'm showing up. Yeah, it's been consistent. You know Nothing like being consistent. He sees me twice a week if I'm in town three times If I'm fucking not working four times If the sunday class because the sunday class is my favorite class because I always learn something small You know what I'm saying? Like last sunday I learned how to do a proper hip escape after three fucking years
Starting point is 01:17:17 Like I always learn something small stupid, but that's how good that guy is on sundays And now I gotta take off for two weeks, which means I'm gonna be huffing and fucking popping all over again now when I go And getting anxiety. That's the last thing I wanted to fucking do I always saw wanted my daughter to be old enough And for me to show my daughter that I was doing something You know I'm saying that three days a week I have a responsibility to do something And she'll say eventually what the fuck do you go? And you have to explain to how you go to jiu-jitsu and then she'll say let me come with you one time
Starting point is 01:17:52 And you go down there and she sees and maybe she'll get involved in something Maybe it's not jiu-jitsu. Maybe it's taekwondo But at least you set an example for your child. Yeah, I'm saying yeah It was all those little variables, man I wanted to do something I had never done before I'm not gonna go rest so I can't get thrown down. I tell Eddie I'm on 300 fucking pounds I'm not gonna go learn how to shoot a bow and arrow Cause I don't want to go fucking hunting for a week and kill animals and shit
Starting point is 01:18:21 So I had to find something else I had to find something close to my house. I had to find something that wasn't A very competitive school where people gonna go and take my fucking head off and break my arm. I can't work I can't fucking work with a broken arm. I mean an accident's happening. You know I'm saying an accident fucking happened You land wrong your wrist And jiu-jitsu was the answer for me, I think You know, and I'm too old to do no fucking G. They'll kill me. I see those people I did it one time by all this they grabbed my neck my whole body stopped
Starting point is 01:18:54 That's the time I put the fucking 2x rash guard that tapped me out The fucking 2x that's how fat I was A 2x rash guard tapped me out. I had to have all the come in the back and take it off I can't fucking breathe with this goddamn thing. It's funny But I enjoy it as you saw I brought copies of jiu-jitsu magazine and I read that on planes like an asshole And I look at little moves and I basically get it for the diets in there and little nourishment tips I got to get really good nourishment tips in there Everything else I can't do what Andrei Gavau does. You know what I'm saying? I look and I go that's great
Starting point is 01:19:28 Thanks for the move Andrei. I can't do that type of shit Where's Tony Bennett cocksucker I Know we just do this Oh, let me go pee again Christ, oh my Jesus Christ because you're drinking beers cocksucker. You gotta take little sips of water Are you ready for another start? Absolutely. Fuck yeah You gotta eat these stars. I can't be eating stars this week. Maybe Wednesday I'll eat some stars
Starting point is 01:20:32 That's gonna be you're you have to wait until Wednesday. I don't know. Let's see what I feel I was gonna say that's good. Let me give some shout outs. My main man. The lalinguses Oaky spooky always getting my back that sexy bitch I saw your boy freddy korea and vegas with his beautiful wife My man one by one podcast holding it down Tracy up there in Canada looking sexy the motherfucker Crystal Johnson looking sexier my main man timmy hollow way and timmy jr Mike land
Starting point is 01:21:05 And my man raven bosio son of the fucking greatest drummer Terry bosio. I'm gonna give you a fucking shout out too. Don't forget. There's no expectations tour start 7 July 21st At flappers in the uber room 50 people I'm just gonna be trying out my shit if you can make it come down and not I'm doing it to get in the following week. I'm gonna go rest for those fucking dates. How's that for you? Very exciting It's uh
Starting point is 01:21:39 It's gonna be interesting watching you build a special. I'm very excited. Well, the set I had in vegas on friday wasn't that good I tried some new stuff and It's missing the diaz oh So I gotta find something with more fucking oomph. I'm not and you ain't oomphin hard enough But just from the surgery they've been pissing this much or this is always I don't know. Maybe this is surgery. I don't know the fuck. I always piss a lot So the other day I'm reading an article in bjj Jiu-jitsu
Starting point is 01:22:16 in the magazine And they're talking about different tournaments First of all, congratulations on dbi. Thank you very much. Seven happening next saturday night at seven o'clock. Yep Pacific standard time on ufc five pass and you'll see and that's where they could order it That's where they could pay it or whatever in order. Yeah, you could if you have ufc five pass It's free Or if you just if you don't want ufc five pass and you want just to watch ebi you can order it at ufc dot tv One time deal. I think it's 999. You don't have to commit to the fight pass. You can just get animals again this year
Starting point is 01:22:50 Eddie Cummings. Yep, we're doing the featherweights for ebi seven Eddie Cummings is the champ geo martini. He's coming back. He's the former champ joe sodos coming back He was in the finals when Cummings got the belt Rafael domingo's is dropping down to 45 denny percopos is dropping down to 45 Uh, we got the return of bill cooper. He was he was The baddest american jujitsu player, you know, eight 10 years ago and he's he's back. He's in incredible shape Our maraud yarn who's a go-kore chivichians top featherweight super leg lock guy He got chat george. Who's a who was a black belt slash mma fighter
Starting point is 01:23:32 A bear your sheet is going to be in there alex ecklin Oh, mickey main um Sergio Hernandez who has the craziest style ever he's got eddy Cummings first round Sergio Hernandez and eddy Cummings the first fight of the night is going to be insane Sergio Hernandez has got a style that no one can Prepare for I mean, it's just donkey guard slash Rubber side mount slash reverse clothes guard
Starting point is 01:23:57 I've rolled with the guy. It's it's insane his styles the first match Ebi seven next saturday on fight pass gonna be fucking crazy and plus we have some special matches with the return of Grace Gundram I'm trying to find the best girls To go to the best girls for how old is grace now. She's 13 So we got you know, rafael mendez is right now the best jujitsu guy on the planet his prodigy Janelle tkaczek That's the best girl I could find and that's the best school around right now as far as like the ibgf tournaments
Starting point is 01:24:29 She's gonna jump in and we're gonna see how she does against grace. Maybe grace gets smoked. I don't know I'm on a quest to find out how good grace really is because she just it just amazes me with with her skill and her Her decision making and her technique. It's it's pretty crazy that a 13-year-old girl could be she's like a virtuoso violinist You know those little 13-year-old violets who shred they don't shred for a 13-year-old. They shred period They're just amazing and and that's what she is. She's a jujitsu prodigy and we'll see how good she really is Against a oj the art of jujitsu rafael mendez school their their best 13-year-old and that's going to be right before the finals The we're going to in that who knows what who's going to be in the finals of the guy tournament
Starting point is 01:25:13 It could be eddy comings versus joe soto or geo martinez or barry ashita But right before we find we find out the champion of that night, which uh, there's $20,000 up For the that's the grand prize We're going to see grace gundrum versus janel to kachek that right there is going to that could Steal the whole show right there now In your wildest imaginations that you would think that was even going to be in the ebi seven No, man. I really didn't I took I didn't know that'd be an ebi too. I didn't I was never planning to be a Fight promoter type guy. It's just it just fucking happened. I just fell right into it just started out just trying to think of a
Starting point is 01:25:56 A rule set in jiu-jitsu that would be Entertaining for the average ufc fan the average guy that doesn't train jiu-jitsu likes the ufc There's millions and millions and millions of ufc fans jiu-jitsu is a huge part of the ufc Why isn't there any ufc or uh jiu-jitsu shows they can You know cater to like 10 of those ufc fans. We're like 15 20 percent But in reality, it's less than one percent of ufc fans are interested in jiu-jitsu show. So And uh tip for me. I think the reason is it's the point system that point system is not Fan-friendly it's great to develop skills certain skills like guard passing and sweeping the point system really emphasizes that
Starting point is 01:26:41 That's the most important part of the point game is those go those sweeps and those passes that that's gotta be Fucking on point you want to win a points championship and which is a beautiful thing Sweeping and passing it's huge super important. You eliminated that No, no, no, you do get points or no, no, you don't get any points But sweeping and passing is still important, but you don't get points for it. Right. You don't get points for you It's a mission only. Yeah, it's no point at all. Which is really interesting because I like I said I read an article in there and then you could break down for me a little more because I don't know jiu-jitsu lingo
Starting point is 01:27:15 And I said that they're doing more tournaments when I With ebi rules and I was like fucking and he's on to something If all these people are doing I think there's two other tournaments happening with ebi rules There's a lot of tournaments that have adopted ebi. There's a bunch. There's a bunch and I I want them to use it Use it. I don't own those rules. Just use it. Let's let's make jiu-jitsu Fun again, you know, because really submission only is what jiu-jitsu really is when you when you train jiu-jitsu at your school No one's keeping track of points. You're trying to submit each other. It's some submission only is not new It's what jiu-jitsu is. It's the essence of jiu-jitsu and the point system. That's like unnatural jiu-jitsu
Starting point is 01:27:56 But again, the point system I believe is important because it it does stresses certain skills and passing and sweeping is very important So do points tournaments to focus on those very important parts of jiu-jitsu keep that I'm not trying to stomp out a point tournaments. I think point tournaments are important But they're just not fan family. You can't put points tournaments on tv like chess I always use this analogy chess is a very cerebral game very prestigious noble people play chess Kings and queens play chess, but you just can't put chess on tv. You're not going to put the world champion Can I ask you a question?
Starting point is 01:28:29 How long is ebi? What do you mean the show? How long is the production of ebi like one show? Give me red on round ball again Give me a pistol pete or julia serving. I don't give a fuck who you give me. Just give me a red on round ball How long is the whole production? show of Because this is the problem I have what is how long is the whole production of ebi? um, it could be any we've had shows that uh It lasted two and a half hours or hours downtown in between how much downtime in between in between
Starting point is 01:29:02 We generally not that much downtime at all. We just we bang them out. We go pop pop. We don't we don't have time to waste I go to your fucking ebi. It's exciting. It's in a beautiful theater The lighting is beautiful But after the first whistle I'm just sitting there watching chinese Because I'm not up to that advanced part of jiu-jitsu. It's nothing wrong with you or anybody I just don't really know much about level arts I don't like people touching my fucking feet. That's why I'll never become a blue belt
Starting point is 01:29:35 I'll stall that white belt for the next 10 fucking years. I'll get four and a half And three quarter stripes. You understand me. Yeah, I just don't like it. I don't know I just don't like people touching my feet. I got fungi on the toe You don't touch my foot. I won't touch your feet hit it Lee Now It's so funny that uh Oh it right there Before we tell you why these thumbs are down the hands are
Starting point is 01:30:03 extended This is pete malovich The greatest playmaker and passer in the game today From fio van's hometown also playing with the new all is jazz Notice The fingers notice the wrist notice the hand It's firm fingers spread Follow through
Starting point is 01:30:23 Just on a simple chest pass now pete in throwing that pass Do you really think about that when you do it or does it become automatic? Well, actually it becomes automatic, but three basic ingredients in throwing any type of passes fingertip control Backspin and follow through all right now do me a favor. Yeah, give me an intro and give me three moves a minute of peace in between the fucking fights Oh what leg locks are yeah, I see what you're saying one minute of peace for a guy like me So if I go to jiu-jitsu when i'm telling you i'm confused. I love the game
Starting point is 01:30:59 Don't the leg locks see the thing is it would submission only the the the main difference between submission only and the points game Is generally in the point community? The leg locks are frowned upon they don't they don't like leg locks, but in the what community i'm sorry The average bjj school is not into leg locks. They don't teach leg locks. I don't they look at them as too dangerous They teach them, but they don't they don't emphasize. They don't teach them or emphasize I go to your school as a purple belt I learned this curriculum from scott rush. Okay. Why is whenever it's fucking famous with the glasses I go to your advanced classes. I got a brown belt my leg locks are good
Starting point is 01:31:40 I go to Cabrini's okay. Well, I'd be fucking them up with my leg locks and my style of jiu-jitsu with those leg locks You know and all depends on how I mean does he work on a lot of leg locks in his school? They don't know they don't because in the points tournaments, they're illegal. So it's a waste of time so if I put a gi on and went to Uh an IB ggf tournament and I got a heel hook. No good. It's illegal. You get disqualified. No shit Yeah, you can't attack the legs. So I can't do that move where I put on and do a comorra and twist on your leg Nope, even if I'm a purple belt
Starting point is 01:32:17 No, it's illegal generally when does it start become legal? You could do toe holds. I think is a black belt and you know, you could do knee bars You could do no no nothing twisting and no reaping the leg Um, but uh and submission only you could do everything. This is what you need to do idea How you doing? My name is any bravo the 10th plan systems a little different advanced and more systems Let me show you the basic leg lock. Boom. Thank you Come back defense for the basic leg lock. Why do they spin? I don't even know what the fuck they spin and then both holding each other's foot. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:32:51 I don't like why I gotta hold your foot and spin all these little things Catch them for me in 30 seconds And put them up. It's hard to do in 30 seconds. That's how about a fucking minute. You're right. You're right. That's a great Just say it and then let's edit. Yeah, it's like twitter. Yeah, when I get on twitter in the morning I got your fuck your mother in the ass I hope bazookas, but then you got 180 characters. You got to start chopping that a And that uh in that beat and eliminate that comma. It's the same thing with these Until the person gets educated. That's what you'll have over any other people
Starting point is 01:33:27 You know, and it's like all right. I'm switching to the chair I gotta think of bjj in 2016 is a Conte away from being on sports center at two in the morning If I got to sit down at your anybody over here get high put on sports. I did do karate With the swords and shit and you're sitting there going. This is worthless. These guys will get beat up Well, especially right now. This is the worst time to watch sports center because it's Hockey and that's it and a little in baseball a little bit of baseball So from now until August, there's no football. So what you mean to tell me is sports
Starting point is 01:34:01 Let me talk to you from the large sports center people The fucking kennel show that you put on every year with those ugly fucking dogs for four hours We can't slip a jiu-jitsu thing in there for an hour again It's got to be to go on television and to basically educate You know, the ufc educates you with the three point system at the scoring system. There's three judges, but that's all you know The way I look at it though, it's a great idea. But the way I look at it is If you're a ufc fan and you can follow the ufc and you understand what's going on in the ground Yes, ebi is more technical because it's all groundwork
Starting point is 01:34:40 But it's I figure if you're a ufc fan, you'll understand this enough. You'll get it We're not i'm not generally thinking about attracting people that Don't know anything about jiu-jitsu like them. They're gonna have to catch up, you know About somebody who maybe isn't jiu-jitsu and never seen it to that level Yeah, you know, I'm talking about if you really really really want to put this on tv Yeah, you got to break it down from somewhere. Yeah, you got to break it down from something the leg block game is It's just as vast as brazilian jiu-jitsu in itself You know brazilian jiu-jitsu you attack the neck you attack the arm a sombo is all legs
Starting point is 01:35:22 It's the same thing in their joint locks. It's like If you you know if you attack someone's shoulder or elbow, it's the same thing as attacking someone's leg It's the same thing. It's not like a a different person. That's your body. You have limbs you have arms and legs and you have your neck jiu-jitsu should be about all of it and Uh, you know the graces on especially on heli-o side with hicks and horion and hoist they attack the legs not as um Is uh Is deep and as vast as like what john daner has done like they take they took it to the the next level
Starting point is 01:35:57 You know, there's been sombo. There's always been catch wrestling. Who teaches a black house down there I don't think there's actually teachers at black house. Yeah, I think I think team no garra Because team no garra has no garra down there somebody mic max was on that team Okay, and I've had discussions with mic max when he's like, I don't even fuck with this shit I just attacked the legs. They're right there. Yeah, I tried The the great thing about legs is um, you don't In jiu-jitsu before you can think about a submission If you're on top, you got to pass the guard if you can't pass the guard very hard to get a submission
Starting point is 01:36:32 There's still a couple things you can do but generally you have to pass the guard to submit submit and on the bottom You know, uh, generally you can submit guys off your back But generally you want to sweep and pass but with leg locks You don't have to sweep and you don't have to pass to get a submission. You can go for legs Anywhere you don't have to sweep or pass That's what he said he goes why we're going to wrestle with you for 10 minutes Yeah, I'm just going to go up to the legs and go up to the legs and let the parties over The problem is with leg locks if you get too leg lock heavy, it's not
Starting point is 01:37:04 The the absolute smartest style for MMA like if you're going for legs, that means man, you're you're not tying up your opponent's arms That means he could elbow you or punch you. So in MMA, it's risky. That's why I never really got heavy into leg locks until the last couple years But um, generally in the beginning of my 10th planet We we're always leg lock friendly always allowed leg lock guys to go after and reap legs and I encouraged it But personally for me, I didn't want to get too heavy with it only because I was focusing on More MMA style, but you know now with the rise of submission only game I'm I don't head first in the leg locks and the whole 10 planet jiu-jitsu association has been transformed We're we've always been heavy on
Starting point is 01:37:53 The rubber guard and twister and lockdown stuff in electric chairs But now we're also heavy on leg locks last cut for him first. Oh, really? I'll give you the last like that Who's the guest here? He is tonight trust me Lee likes these I don't mind going last No, I love leg locks man. I'm I'm I'm sold. I'm 100% into a man I love them my students like the girls are doing them kids are doing and we got everybody on leg locks Right away kids funny how you told me a story when you were like a blue boat You went to a tournament
Starting point is 01:38:27 And you went for a heel hook and people started throwing shoes at you I went for a toll because I used to be in the tolls. I saw ken shamrock video a long time He's in jeans with some japanese guy. We did a toll. So this is like a 94 95. So I started I was a toll fiend back in the day and uh the first the first Pan Ams
Starting point is 01:38:48 in the states They shipped 500 brazilians into el sigundo to do the very first pan ams and there was a bunch of brazilians And I went for a toll and the riots start the old riot almost started They started throwing shoes and water bottles at me and And johnny machado comes I have a toll that everyone's going not screaming at me and yelling They were doing brazilian chanting throwing shoes and uh john jock's brother johnny's come was running and he slides You gotta let it go And I have the toll I'm like, oh
Starting point is 01:39:19 Look what's going on everyone's going nuts. So I let it go and the guy beat me But um, yeah, leg locks are really frowned upon for a while now. They're more accepted but You know after seeing how high you can take the leg lock game with denner denner has done over the last 10 15 years The leg locks. I'm like shit. I want some of that. So um it it uh It takes your overall game to a whole another level because yeah, you want to pass and yeah You want to sweep but there's guys that you can't pass the garden. There's guys who can't sweep You're gonna run the guys you can't if you're really good at leg locks
Starting point is 01:39:54 You're still in the game. You're like fuck the pass me go after your legs and it's a whole different game It's a beautiful thing man jujitsu and leg locks and sombo all mixed up together Shit, you don't know what's gonna happen. It's a beautiful thing and in the submission only game since there's no strikes Shit leg locks are crazy important super if you're not If you're not on top of what's going on with leg locks in this submission only game You're gonna get god You just cannot go forward unless you understand the entire body You just can't be half the body like arms and neck
Starting point is 01:40:25 You got to be full body for submission only because they're gonna come after your legs Guy like eddy commons at gary tonic come after your legs. Shit If you don't if you don't know what's going on 100 you're gonna tap Do that bang it Kill that fucking savage It's sunday night bitches We're getting the week started right, you understand me. I'll leave you another one Look at your eyeballs that went right through your fucking skull, didn't it? It really did
Starting point is 01:40:57 You think uncle joey's fucking around before surgery I'm going in there all sambol out tomorrow And you could watch the entire ebi library one through six on bite pass at any time too the whole thing We got the ebi seven countdown show that's on my youtube channel that I just uploaded about a week between it last week Oh, the really really? Oh nice Yeah, the ebi seven countdown shows, but it's 25 minutes It'll it'll give you a rundown of what's going on next saturday So if you watch that countdown show, you're gonna be pumped up for saturday
Starting point is 01:41:28 You'll understand I break down all the competitors even if you don't know who they are like at first you will After that countdown show I'll not be doing this shit. I think it just shows the Your evolution, you know the evolution and then looking at that magazine. I saw all these people at ebi rules I know uh chelson is doing a tournament now He's doing ebi rules too. He called me chelson said hey, man You mind if I borrow your rule set and I said fuck yeah go for it. I want everyone to do it So just you know you so you start seeing like tournament flyers and then there'll be ebi rules
Starting point is 01:42:03 You know what I mean? It's like it's like prison rules kind of you know what I mean? basketball prison is fucking impressive any because For years they tried to do something and you just took it over with an idea so You got to tap yourself on the back again. Thank you. You know what's going to be crazy is Ebi eight which is september 11th. It's going to be a 16 instead of an all You know beast tournament with dudes. It's going to be a 16 13 14 year old girl turned with grace kora elissa jessa jasmine the beast daniel garcia janelle tkachek
Starting point is 01:42:36 14 year old girls all 13 and 14 fucking amazing ebi eight. It's called the females. It's going to be all woman show But the tournament is going to be 13 14 year olds all bad. We're going to find out if grace is the best We're going to ebi eight. We're going to find out if she is maybe she gets knocked down in the first round Who knows you know because there's we got there's this girl named jasmine the beast johnson Who's gonna I'm featuring her against daniel garcia this saturday as well because because she was going to be in the tournament I wanted to bring in bring her in and uh, and uh, you know let people get a get a glimpse of what she's a what she can do
Starting point is 01:43:11 She's 115 pounds. She's 14 years old 115 pounds grace is 100 pounds So that's the weight That's the weight limit for the ebi eight. There's 115 but kora section that she's 103 So there's going to be these light super light technical girls going against these super athlete 14 year old girls That are having a hard time making 115 pounds. You know what I mean? So it's going to be like rocky fours and be like drago and and uh Against rocky seriously, man Very interesting the growth
Starting point is 01:43:41 Of jujitsu. I mean There's schools in burbank. I don't even know about I rolled with a guy from checkmate burbank. I didn't know leo vieira. I didn't know yet checkmate checkmate checkmate His best girl daniel Daniel garcia. She's actually going to be she's fighting this saturday against on a black long beach He was on a long beach. You know what? I don't know she's checkmate, but I don't know there's a bunch of checkmats I don't know which one she trains that I should know that but I know that she's leo vieira Or you know what? She's probably up in victorville. There's a check map of the uh, uh, uh, marcello mafra
Starting point is 01:44:17 He's out in victorville. That's where daniel garcia is from. She's from victorville. She's a 14-year-old girl She's going against jasmine the beast 215 pound 14 year olds with superb jujitsu There's gonna be some crazy shit kora sex gonna also have a special match. She's going against a zoe child This is a a rematch So on top of the 16 guys the featherweights, we're gonna have three special matches with Girls, they're gonna be an ebi a I just I wanted to give people glimpse like I said of them before we do That all-female show
Starting point is 01:44:53 It's gonna be nuts man Just really funny get your girl in there too. Good girl. What's her name? Jessica flowers. It's just really funny where you've taken this game and Uh, I know for a long time you struggled, you know people didn't like to read for taking people in like the fucking 10th planet And now you got the system You got them at over a barrel. They're using your fucking rules You know, it's cool man is uh It was a cool weekend in so many ways and on so many levels But one of the coolest things was you know, like I said the iB JJF
Starting point is 01:45:24 They held a tournament there at at the UFC fan expo and I'm I ran into so like a Leo Vieira ran into him talked to him ron Connero Luca teller the guy from Gracie make all these guys that um Uh, you know, I was never really close to it wasn't like ever like we were never buddies and texting each other anything like that We just kind of never really said anything we passed by each other and just occasionally said hey or whatever shook hand But uh, it was a really good time man. I had really good conversations with Leo Vieira That's the guy that crushed me after I beat Hoyler. Yeah, I tapped that Hoyler in 2003 Abu Dhabi But the very next match Leo Vieira beats me like a hundred to nothing
Starting point is 01:46:05 and um And we had a really good conversation. It was it was a it was a very pleasant time at uh at that That iB JJF tournament met a lot of people out of brazilians that I never knew before uh, it was It had a really good time it's uh you know you You're one of the contemporaries right now. You're one of the guys right now
Starting point is 01:46:30 You know, I've had conversations with alberto when he was telling me when he met you when you guys were bluebelts Yep, yep or something like that. So, you know, I met I met brodie stevens when he had a fucking public access show I see brodie now. I gotta give him a hug because I knew him back then and this is the same thing with the people you're seeing now Yeah, well that burdo crane we met um at the a santa cruz tournament that they had a cladio franca Had uh the santa cruz tournament. I don't I forget what it was called The us nationals or something and I met alberto crane up there at a blue belt And he was the only one with a video camera
Starting point is 01:47:07 He had a big one of those video cameras that record like vhs You know big ones and he had one at the tournament and he said he would fill my matches We met and kind of hit it off and he filled my matches and I remember uh, and then he lived in new mexico And he said he would make me a copy. I remember writing him and she was like, this is 1995 96 And asked me do you have that tape when he gonna send that tape and he took so long to send I just wanted to watch me. I never had any video of me competing. I didn't videotape anything This this is uh, you know, no one had video cameras and you had to be rich Keep talking
Starting point is 01:47:43 Oh now you gotta piss What are you gonna do jiu-jitsu Lee when you thinking about it? Um, I did it for a while and I oh you did where I joey. Yeah, the same place. He was at um, At a v-max. I like v-max But I um, I don't know I I Listened to joey and you and everyone who talks about jiu-jitsu. There's such a love for it and I just Couldn't I didn't I didn't have it but what I at that jiu-jitsu place
Starting point is 01:48:11 Uh, they had kettlebell class once a week So from that I found a place that joey actually used to go to as well, but it's a kettlebell gym So I'd do that three times a week now But if you could press a button right now, right? You could if you could press a button that gave you the skills to put people to sleep And and break their limbs and totally immobilize people and control them If you could press a button that gave you that boom, would you do it? Or you'd say nah Oh, absolutely. Of course, right. Why why does it be awesome?
Starting point is 01:48:38 Wouldn't it be awesome to like actually know I'd totally get the appeal of jiu-jitsu So you got to look at it like this some people some people turn away from jiu-jitsu most people most Yeah, you're like most people. Absolutely. You're like most people people that like jiu-jitsu are in the minority You know why it's just all about how they look at it, you know, because you could uh, some people Tapping getting submitted It's in our dna for it not to feel good. Nobody ever gets tapped out and it feels good It wasn't I did a tournament that I knew was gonna get killed at and it was it was fine. I don't mind getting tapped out. I just I don't know man
Starting point is 01:49:20 It's just not something that I was physically good at And I know most people aren't when they start But I don't know I Did you feel like everyone was thinking you just suck and no no everyone's always very nice But you just said earlier that you would press that button because it was awesome because Yeah, but that that button would be awesome taking into account my arms that can't No, but you got to look at look at it like this. This is coming from a guy that's been to teaching jiu-jitsu for a long time I've seen people come and go
Starting point is 01:49:49 Um, I I there have been lots of people most people are react like you. That's just like fuck that I'm not good at this. I can't do this and I'm not having fun. I'm losing all the times like why is this fun? I go in here. I get tapped out. Fuck that. Why is this? How is this fun getting tapped out? It sucks It's in our dna for it to suck and when you know, but when you all you got to do is focus on Being able to do to someone What they're doing to you. Oh, man All you got to do is just know that you can do it
Starting point is 01:50:21 So you don't think you could do it but you can do it But you think you can't you think you can't but i'm here to tell you I've never met anybody ever That just continued to do it and not get better at it little by little so you can Do you think like it was just too hard for you? You can't figure it out and it's too complex I think it was a fun thing. I think I fell in love with kettlebells and I just wasn't enjoying Dude because you thought you couldn't get good at it Uh, that probably had a good amount to do with it. Of course most people think they can't they just can't do it
Starting point is 01:50:50 Most people, um, they they think man, it's just not worth it. You're gonna get tapped out all the time Yeah, you gotta get and that's what anything in life But you know when you first walk into something that's outside your comfort zone, I would call the guy up first I drove by there 15 times And I was done with kickboxing And I had a bunch of options I could call you I could call a bunch of people. I said, you know what? I don't know this guy. Let me give him the 50 bucks go down there because If I don't like it
Starting point is 01:51:23 I don't I don't want anybody know I even tried it And I went in there and we spoke and he taught me the grips and He taught me uh, but when I did the hip escapes the room just started spinning And we talked a little more he taught me a basic scissor sweep I thought it was interesting. I got in the car. I'm like that was interesting, but I'm never gonna go back And I went home and I did a Ben Franklin close, you know what that is When you put a piece of paper and you put lines down the piece of paper and you write
Starting point is 01:52:01 The advantages and disadvantages of jiu-jitsu for me, you know, obviously I wrote out of shape But obviously I wrote commitment and I wanted to do something different. So I went to a night class And that was fucking brutal, buddy brutal Because I'm I'm 50. I don't have energy in the fucking night time. My energy's done the daytime It's tough for me to learn the moves, but he taught me a Pass a collar pass where you double up the legs and you throw them over And I could do that. But again, I walked out and I'm like, I'm not coming back in here again
Starting point is 01:52:37 But you know me dog I said I'm going back down a Monday night and on Mondays from eight eight 30 people don't like it because he makes you do jumping jacks and burpees I would do whatever I could do push-ups 10 jumping jacks and stop I would run some laps. I'd walk some But one night I went in and out of that one And that was the biggest mistake of my life That was like the time of st. Patty's day 1992. I got on stage on coke. I thought it was cute That was a big mistake
Starting point is 01:53:09 And I know not to get high or nothing But I go to jiu-jitsu because I would panic when somebody got on top of me the weight would just make me panic I got sleep apnea. I can't breathe on the bottom But I started thinking what if somebody gets on top of me on the street dog. I'm gonna die I'm gonna die. I can't die because I don't want to do this And that's what made me go back between you and I I don't have the aptitude for it When I played football I had aptitude three days, you know, you learn your fucking formations And you learn to block this guy and tackle this guy as he comes around with basketball
Starting point is 01:53:44 I had to think with baseball. I didn't And I'm cute. I didn't have the aptitude to play baseball with jiu-jitsu. I was completely out of the game It was like me going to a technical school to learn mechanics I'm not an auto mechanic. You know, it's like it's like uh when you um Like with your experience with comedy, you know that if a guy starts doing comedy and he goes up to a couple open mics He's like fuck this. I got you know, I'm not gonna fucking do this. It's just too hard. I'm I'm gone But you know like you know like man, you know, whether you tell him or not You're like you can do this. You just got to fucking work
Starting point is 01:54:20 You can do this most people think they can but they can't I I knew I could like that day My first day at jiu-jitsu. I got wrecked. I 37 times got wrecked But instead of doing what most people do most people like fuck this. How is that fun? That's not fun Most people are like they're gone But the way I looked at it is like survival on the streets. I knew that Fuck who cares if this guy these guys beat my ass one of these days I'm gonna be able to do that to a dude who walked in the first day
Starting point is 01:54:54 That was the goal I got I just want to be able to do what that dude did to me I go you've been training four years and you look like a fucking nerd You know what I mean? I go you can do this and goes train hard for four years I'm like shit. I'm gonna be able to do this too So I didn't care about getting tapped but the more I got tapped the more I'm like fuck Yes, I'm gonna be able to do this and I got obsessed and all I wanted to do is my goal My first goal is to be able to put a clinic on a dude's who's been training one day Then after like six months of hard training. I was able to do that
Starting point is 01:55:29 It took maybe six months Maybe even a year before I can just do whatever I wanted to that dude, you know, but time flies So a year goes by like that, but you you actually can do it There is nobody on the planet unless you have some kind of serious like Um, well, no, we have that we have that friend who has a wheelchair He's in a fucking You got it. You're still with your girl. Mm-hmm. What happens when you go out and someone starts shit, man You want to be able to fucking handle the goddamn your business, man?
Starting point is 01:56:02 You want to be able and jujitsu will a hundred percent 100 percent Give you that confidence like if anything goes down, you're like, I got this motherfucker. I wreck them every day You can do that. You know, I'm not and you know, whether you go to jujitsu Again or not, it's not none of my concern at all. I'm just telling you. I'm just giving you Like I'm trying to and I'm never gonna bring this up. No, no, no, no, no I'm telling you the truth. You're true to the choir. I can get really good at this man You could and you could say you could have it'll it'll you know what you get to will do when you say when you
Starting point is 01:56:36 If you say you'll start to realize that shit I'm constantly taking these moves that I suck at and getting pretty good at them Then getting really good and then mastering them and because I'm unconscious And then I'm doing it to this move and then all these moves are in different parts of development You're like shit if I just keep practicing all this they look what I could do It's like then you realize you could do that to anything. You're like shit. I anything I want to do I can actually do when people say that. Oh, you can do anything. You just got to believe in yourself That's actually true
Starting point is 01:57:07 Like it doesn't mean that hey, I want to be an MBA star You know, no, it means that if you want to get good at basketball You could actually get way better at basketball than you are right now You can get good at it not to play in the mba, but you could do anything you want to do and man Why not have That the power To and the skills to put people to sleep and break their bones if you had to if you got kids He did it because
Starting point is 01:57:32 Mercy snapped him into shape mercy made him do it. Maybe it'll maybe it'll it'll take a a kid for you too But that's for a while Ultimately, ultimately, but one thing you want to do it man. You want to do one thing for sure. I got me going on it One thing the main objective. I thought jujitsu had over anything I had done even comedy That really got my dick hard about it Yeah, they I'm on the floor I hip escape I get the guy into my garden
Starting point is 01:58:07 And something happens We go a scramble and my arm got caught and I go, ah And one of the purple belts brown belt looked over at me weird and after the class You know how many times this guy's talking to me and he maybe two times He came over because what happened to you before like on my fucking shoulder And he goes let's let me see this and I was like, let's go on the back when we took a stick
Starting point is 01:58:35 And we worked with this stick for 20 minutes. He told me to take the stick home and do this by myself for 20 minutes He didn't look for a five dollar bill. He didn't want me to give him free tickets to the county store He didn't want nothing from me And one thing I wanted from comedy one thing I wanted from my criminal friend One thing I was always looking for was one a family But b I was always looking for sort of like of this brotherhood And I really found that would you get some more soul in comedy believe it or not more soul in comedy
Starting point is 01:59:11 When I walk into where I go I'm good to go That's my fucking out the phone. Don't ring I don't want to talk on the phone. I don't get text. I'm getting nothing It's my hour. I take it really fucking serious when I go in there When I go in there, I'm the fat white belt in the corner. I'm not joy. The is the comedian I really like that. I like that. I like that hour of Nobody has to take a fucking picture
Starting point is 01:59:39 Nobody has to talk to me about auditions In fact, I'm asking people questions. Hey dog Get me in your god. Did I move you to the media day? You know what I'm saying? Like and people actually go. Yeah, nobody says fuck you You know some kid came up to me that day goes dog My fucking cousin called me says you're going to Nashville He has a school. They want to train you When I was 418 pounds, how many people emailed me and said we want to train you this weekend not many
Starting point is 02:00:10 A week before I go to a town now I got an email from somebody who says bring your gear like to train yet my school And I'll say is it far and if they say, yeah, I won't do it But if it's close, I'll do it If it's close to the school, I'll definitely do it It's very interesting. That's one daily one day That's what turned me on the most about it that I'm just a fat fuck in the corner Who does eight hip escapes and he has to get up and breathe and he starts from scratch
Starting point is 02:00:38 And it doesn't bother me at all because it brings me back to reality It brings me back to the reality. I like to be on you know, I'm saying It gets old to go out and people want to take pictures it gets old For people to laugh at your stupid fucking jokes, you know, I'm saying there. I'm just a guy in the corner That at first I couldn't even make the whole warm-up. Now I do the whole warm-up, you know Today I got submitted one time and maybe I got the guy in a college joke, but I was happy that those two Those two Deep halves work like I went right home and wrote it down
Starting point is 02:01:19 Like they really fucking work and they would textbook both times Like I've practiced it so many times a drill class now I hook his leg pick him up gone. Boom. I'm on top. It's all about numbers, man I'm on top of him now. It's like now. I love half-guard I love half-guard. I pop up. I grab his back. I turn myself down and keep growing and keep expanding. It doesn't stop Now you're gonna keep growing a year ago. Do you think I would put somebody purposely on top of me Lee? Are you fucking kidding me? I actually pull somebody on top of me and throw his knees up and get under him and fucking pull him up again
Starting point is 02:01:56 Then I hold him there and I breathe a little bit then I walk his leg out Then I fucking spin backwards like a fucking You know, and I love it. I love it. That should be some animation right now You're saying Fuck because I can't eat no fucking aspirin because tomorrow I'll bleed to death So, uh, that's why I'm really so so so I enjoy going Uh, I wish you a lot of luck with the ebi this weekend. Thank you very much. I'm happy. They could go to fight pass You could either pay for the daily
Starting point is 02:02:28 Which is 995 you can just sign up for pipe pipe pass and everything's on there You could see fucking uh, Popeye fighting Pluto In 1922 they got everything on there. So it's not a bad fucking deal beyond Especially if you're of ufc paying Lee, how you feeling dog goes bonk. It's got to you. Oh, everything goes and everybody. Yeah, ufc fight pass is great I signed up for it for the past week and they have like the where are they now fights? They have like all the other they've eb they obviously have ebi But they have a ton of other organizations and I think if it's a one-time fee of 999
Starting point is 02:03:03 It's the same price as one month of fight pass Somebody's will just do fight pass Yeah, yeah, your choice whatever you want to do some people don't like to get that Sign up for subscriptions. They just feel like weird about it. I'm at Cora sec. She's she's really cool So she's gonna be good partners like I watched her like crazy submission video. So she's she's who Cora Cora. Yeah Yeah, yeah Cora the chorus too. Yeah, it's weird. Uh, she's got some she's got a new weapon that no one knows about She's really good at some shit this girl then everybody is the preparers for Cora
Starting point is 02:03:36 They prepare for her rubber guard because if you get caught if you get caught in her guard she she is Has one of the best full guards on the planet even for a little girl It's it's super high advanced what she's doing Um, so people are always trying to stay away from her guard, but now she's got a new weapon Ooh, she got a new one. Yeah, she's really good with it. It has nothing to do with guards off to jitsu You were raised by a stepdad Any relationship with him wasn't that great and what you told me over the years Did he pass or is he still alive a stepdad? Yeah, I have no idea. No, I think he's still alive
Starting point is 02:04:14 Yeah, I would have I would have heard of you would have died because he's uh, my sister and my brother's real father So I would have known if he would have died. He's still alive. It's crazy till I found out That my stepdad died. He was like my own official stepdad It fucking killed me for a minute because let me tell you something I hadn't talked to him in a few days So this morning I got up at five and I wrote for two hours And then about six seven thirty I started calling my friends on the east coast And I called him at eight o'clock. He didn't answer this motherfucker
Starting point is 02:04:50 Always answers. He always answers even the tag if he's sleeping So I hung up and I said I'll wait ten minutes and he'll call back. He's one of those people So he always calls you back and didn't call back So when my wife left to go to church with the baby, I had to go to the weed store and I had to go to uh CVS to pick up my purpose sets and all that shit And when I got back in the car left the phone and at the weed store. I was in there talking to a girl And I saw and you know what else I called after him. I called my best friend. That's a funeral director
Starting point is 02:05:26 Because he's a freeholder This is how you know how you and I talk sometimes and you're like joey I was just telling somebody about you and you called. Yeah synchronicity So it was the same thing I called and if you look at my phone, I called carmine first And I called the gear Renéry, and I talked to him. He was sleeping. It was 11 o'clock. I go, what the fuck you doing to sleep because I got up early ran some errands and I'm taking a nap now till some baseball game or some shit And I said, all right, man, just checking in with you. Love you and I hung up the phone and when I got out of
Starting point is 02:05:57 The weed store he called and people I was like, I don't call and I knew it I knew it already Like I didn't need a genius I called Anthony first and he told me you're here and Carmine died that I called Pete and he told me Carmine died if they talked to him they called him and he said he was in the bathroom to give him five minutes They didn't answer the door So he had a heart attack on the way
Starting point is 02:06:23 Now I got to tell you at first one He was 78. He was done He was done, you know, he was starting to lose his mind. He was going to bed at six o'clock and calling me at one in the fucking morning You know, he would get up at 12 and start dialing And he would wake me up at three like it was nobody Cochrane what are you doing? What are you watching? What's on tv? I didn't want to hurt his feelings and tell him I was sleeping So I would talk to him for a little while and I'd hang up the phone and he called me back 10 minutes late and asked me my zip code
Starting point is 02:06:58 Then he would hang up and he called me again. So he was starting to lose it But he would always told me, you know, he'd always told me on the phone. I was his adopted son And today when I got Frankie on the phone, Frankie goes when he passed I went over there, Coco I don't want to make you feel bad. I wanted his wallet and he had a picture of me from the longest you heard This dude was my dog dog You know, it's it's it's hard to And I've never told these stories because I was always ashamed of this but it's hard to You know Joe Rogan put me on the map. I did a few movies, but Joe put me on the map
Starting point is 02:07:34 Carmine and life put me on the map Because when I moved to Jersey, I was so insecure. I wouldn't go out So when I stuck up for his son, he liked that and I started going to his house Because there was weapons in my house and drugs and cash. I wasn't allowed to invite kids over my house when I was a kid Like you'd come to my house. You gotta wait on the porch unless you were spanish and you know about santerian stuff But if not, I had to explain it and I'm not the mood to fucking explain We're going on the fucking date. I gotta break to you while there's a dead chicken in my liver I'm not in the fucking mood so
Starting point is 02:08:12 But when I when I went to his house the first time like I went a dinner with them and then the second time I went back I was like, you hungry yet Going to the refrigerator and make yourself a sandwich Like I had all access to that fucking house as a kid. You know That's not where it goes. I'm a spanish dude You know what I'm saying? Like I'm a spanish dude. So he had already thrown a beating on the guy For his son and I was there and then he ended up throwing a beating on another guy because of me and his son So now the word got out that I was a carmine. So nobody would bother me dawg
Starting point is 02:08:46 And even all those years when I was causing a lot of problems carmine was furious at me But they would call him first before they wanted to talk to me so this is one story there was this drug deal named moondi and His partner had a gas station. His name was george yamaco And his brother had a gas station cuban dudes and they would bring fruit up But before they put the fruit in they would put coke on the truck And they had this very successful cocaine operation So one day george yamaco, I could never approach him directly
Starting point is 02:09:20 I robbed his gas station one time when I was a sophomore without a gun He didn't know it was me and my buddy So we never really fucked with george yamaco, but he was mutual friends with a friend of mine And one day my friend said to me george said that if you want to fuck with him, you got to talk to this guy named moondi This cuban dude named moondi. So I started dealing with moondi And one day I ended up beating him for like an hour. So moondi went nuts So george yamaco wouldn't talk to my friend's dad and my friend's dad said listen, I can't help you Talk to fucking karma
Starting point is 02:09:53 So I got a call from the carmine one day and he goes hey, man Listen, I don't know what you're in. I'm like using you anything but some drug dealers came talking to me today You're on some type of money What do you want me to do here? Like what do you mean? What do you want me to do here? He goes do you want to pay them? And I go now really and he goes what do you want me to do? I go go up there I just talked to You know just tell him that
Starting point is 02:10:22 And he went up there and talked to him the people never came looking for me But he always took care of me all those years from way Before my mother died till you know We did the documentary so it just uh I could sit here and cry and be a fucking phony. Fuck. I already cried. I got out of the way
Starting point is 02:10:48 I can't go to the funeral, but I love the guy. It's it's so crazy the gift I got growing up that My parents were taken away, but god taught me the gift of friendship like It's a weird gift to describe to people It's a very very weird gift to describe to people When you have no blood and what people have done for you, you know, I'm saying usually you need to be blood with people like that So it was a great gift that god gave me. I'm good with it. And that's it. I just wanted to dedicate this show to karma and he uh Made me laugh growing up a lot and When he shot the guy seven times in the back that was the best
Starting point is 02:11:26 Because he used to always tell me if he want to shoot somebody and buy them off and then They're Growing up all the time we were kids if you want to kill somebody you want to get away with invite them on for dinner and shoot And when I was 18, that's exactly what he did He shot a guy in the back seven times in self-defense And he got away with it And he lost his job as a cop, but he kept his pension You can't beat that fucking story and then he lit a strip club on fire
Starting point is 02:11:55 So as we were kids we used to call him the torch Because he lit the strip club on fire. We'd always ask him if he had a if he had a match and he tells us to go fuck ourselves Come on. You had a match go fuck yourself. You speck fuck insulting me like that Lot of good times that he brought him he treated me like he had four boys And whatever his boys got I got one time he called me up. He was come over. I went over there There was a brand new 300 indian motorcycle waiting for me Whatever his boys got I got
Starting point is 02:12:28 And that was way before my mother died In fact when the 8th grade he called me to tell me to come over to tell me to go run to my house and tell me that My mother's house was getting busted by the fucking union city and at uh Newark police department He goes go over and he didn't say it like that and he was going and tell your mother I said Father clean the house. She's gonna have a visit. I knew what he was saying to me I ran over there and told my mother when the cops got there. There was nothing Very interesting the life we live in that he brought me some more. I wish you luck next saturday. What time does it start?
Starting point is 02:13:03 7 p.m. 7 p.m. Pacific standard time just like the ufc next saturday night Police say what's going on in your world cocksucker. You've been very quiet tonight I'm I was just very uh intrigued by the conversation Intrigued yeah Indeed i'm good. I did uh I was very lucky me karma and it's very sad. Um, was he still working? No, they gave him a medical release because he got sugar diabetes and his foot turned purple So that sent him home and that's what was really that's what keep what did he tell us
Starting point is 02:13:37 When we were there we go karma and he's still working. He goes when you stop using it you lose it And it took him six months to die after his job. So If you're old don't think of retiring keep your job Especially if you're single your wife died or whatever and at least keep your mind occupied And that's the show folks. Let me uh, we got fucking sponsors tonight As usual the show is sponsored and they also sponsor ebi My main man chris over at datu sara From the fucking bag. He sent me that I used to jujitsu religiously
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