Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #410 - Troy Conrad
Episode Date: September 5, 2016Troy Conrad, Producer of the Set List show (television and live show) and photographer who, among other projects, shoots his "Hall Series," which is black and white photographs of comedians and perf...ormers at The Comedy Store in Los Angeles. This podcast is brought to you by:  Blue Apron: Go to blueapron.com/JOEY to get your first three meals free and free shipping!  Texture. Go To texture.com/JOEY to get a free trial for the Texture App. The Texture App gives the use access to hundreds of magazines  Recorded live on 09/04/2016.
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We start with Spanish music it's gonna be fucking dangerous
I
Little song from narcos that we've been playing for fucking three years on this thing only the live version
This is when chao was solo on his own music, but he was starting to find a label, but who gives a fuck
It's the church of what's happening now bitches going into you smooth
September 4th kick that lead kick that lead
We go to
Oh shit
Oh shit, when we go into something like that smooth, it's all over for you motherfuckers
Greetings. Happy Labor Day. Uncle Joey Diaz with his main motherfucker Lisa Yat and my main little brother here Troy Conrad
What's happening gentlemen? Hey, I was a weekend. Oh, I had a fun weekend. What's
Speaking of this like the music on on that is great. Just like you ever especially in LA
Whenever like I get like a a fucked up traffic thing or someone calls and I get distracted
I'll just end up on like Mexican music or some some like southern American music and it's just like I'll just find myself
Listening to it, and I have no idea what they're saying or what's happening
It doesn't really matter, but it just it just and it all sounds similar, but it's just spirited. Oh, yeah
You can always
You should feel the music and like your soul. It's a corny saying. No, yeah, it's true
Sometimes if you feel it could be any night, they don't even know that you don't even need to know the fucking words
Don't even need to know the words
You know what the fuck he's saying through his music if you really put that song on over and over and over
Then you figure out one word and maybe two then you got it fucking down
Now you're singing the song in a different language. It's better than you you get arrested and fucking Albania
You know the song of the hottest singer
Fucking American, you know Albanian music, you know, you ever see Splash
With John Candy one of the greatest movies of all time
Yeah, how he gets the check out of the tub is he brings his brother, but there's Swedes
And all of a sudden the guy starts talking to him in Swedish and John Candy just tells him a swedeline and
Fucking on the walk-in Tom Hanks ask him what you say to him and he goes
He goes every any fine kind of sword knows that all the best porn is made in Sweden
And I'm fucking dying right he goes he goes I said to him. Hey, Malik, you know, whatever the fuck
Who's fucking the bro? I don't know exactly the line
I know people gonna get pissed at me because it's a classic movie. He's like who's gonna fuck her or whatever
Yeah, and the guy laughs in English, and that was the sweetest guard laughs
So you never know what you learn from what you listen to it could be anything, you know some about the culture
It's the it's the great connector. It's really weird if you're a fan of the Beatles
You know that their music changed and for an album when they went to India
They went somewhere and they were playing fucking harps and there's one album
I don't revolution maybe don't quote me again
That they went over and took that music and applied it to some of their songs and it worked out perfectly
Because if the music's good it'll all make sense
It'll all make sense like rap and fucking
Arrowsmith that time, you know run DMC. I wasn't I wasn't a big fan of that
But it did do something
It did do something and let you know anybody could do it and it turned look at what happened ten years later
15-20 years later a guy by the name of kid rock fucking shows up doing that shit. So
It's music could always be fucking merged
Troy Conrad is a buddy of mine that he had to refresh my memory how we met
I had was under the impression. I didn't know nothing about comedy or nothing
I thought you were like a producer guy that and you were like one of the producers on
What's his name show on set list? Oh, you thought I was with the green room green room for some reason
I thought you were like one of the producers on green room and there's a lot of guys that you know Eric
Abrams, yeah, I have ten friends that they just do things in LA
Yeah, one day you go shoot a movie and then and the fucking movie set one day and sometimes they're taking pictures
Sometimes yeah, it really doesn't matter and I I kind of appreciate that sometimes
I kind of like that when people do that because what you're telling me is that you're making a living bitch
Yeah, you're making a living bitch. You put that together one way or another. What's the kid from the store?
He's like dog shit Jeremiah Watkins. Jeremiah Watkins. He's unbelievable. He's like dog shit. He's everywhere
He's on this show that show why because you put hustle it
You can't get mad at Jeremiah Watkins at all because those are the kids that don't always work in this town
He's got the hustle. Yeah, but so do you
Yeah, well, look, I like doing I'm always involved in all kinds of different stuff, right?
But I'm I'm just in that that weird creative world
but I just like what's important to me is doing stuff that matters instead of uh
Making a living at doing something that I hate and and if it's you know what I mean like
Go like I don't do the reality tv thing and all that stuff because that's to me
That's not I can't be happy with that at the end of the day. So if I'm taking pictures if I'm making a movie if I'm
Producing a show creating a show. That's that's what I that's where I want to be
So it's hard to say what I do because it's it's fucking a little bit all over the place
But man, I love it and it's all it's all rooted in the comedy world because that's my world
Now we always have conversations. You're a fan of the pilot Jesus Christ
Yeah, I love the show you left something here like a piece of chocolate or something
Jesus christly. I can't take it nowhere
He left a piece of chocolate in the goddamn bung on the inside. I had some crazy ideas. We're gonna say
Oh my god, no, I didn't this is the chocolate from the mushroom
Or somebody's lung or a piece of fucking blue apron
I don't know what the fuck this you brought that blue apron me
I you know, I thought you were on that and then you
Guys like you stay 50 feet away from me
Like nice guys like you just fucking stay the fuck away from me. They're like, you know what joey's trouble
He's gonna touch me with that t8c finger
Something's gonna happen. I'm gonna crash my car. So you'd always approach me. You're always a sweet guy
And deep down inside. I'm still a crazy new yorker
Like I have no idea when people approach me. So for like a year you would come up to me going
I got this show and I go, what the fuck is he talking about?
You know, I I called you the other day and I tried to explain to you
People come to talk to me at night like unless you call me at home and go, hey
We're gonna talk fucking business tonight about my show. Okay. Yeah, but if you come up to me unexpectedly like I look at you
People said to me joey that night I went up to you looked at me like
Because I'm fucking a I'm coming down off this fucking stage thing
Or I'm about to go up. So my head's somewhere completely different. Oh, yeah, somebody got mad at me one night
I was taking pictures of the guy she came over. She goes, hey, can you talk to me about a show?
I go, hold on. I'll go over there when the guy took 40 minutes by the time I got over there
She was gone next day. I got a hate mail on my facebook
Oh, she's had a big pain gig for you. Go fuck yourself. You're rude
Well, we're gonna tell these people to go fuck themselves because you want to talk to me about a gig
This is a surprise to me. Like it's just crazy sometimes where my head is at night
Plus I'm thinking about my daughter and my wife and we're gonna move and the special
And the cats and lee and then you got all these thoughts going through your fucking head
And at the end of the night, it's like people come up to me like you want to get high? No
If you know what I was going through right now, you wouldn't want to get high either
Because up Laurel Canyon, I was fucking my head going upward my head explodes with all the thoughts not to mention about my set
Yeah, I'm thinking about my set. That's the closest I'll remember once I get over cold water. It's over
I'm thinking about where to stop
Who's got rolling papers?
Get up then I go into whatever I'm fine for a little while
Do you ever have those times where somebody's talking to you where you literally have zero seconds to go on stage?
So you haven't even thought about like what you're gonna say and you walk on stage because you were just in some conversation
You ever have that
Sometimes the conversation helps me. I gotta be honest with you sometimes
I like when somebody comes up to me and annoys me
That makes sense. No, I pray for that. I pray for somebody to come up to me that I know
What a stupid question that knows me
But he's all fucked up because what happens is people who know me
Them too at night they get fucked up like I have a friend
That constantly that's a comedian a well-known comedian
He only calls me saturday nights at 9 30
To say what you're doing how your week is going. I'm like, listen, what the fuck do you think I am?
Yeah, guess what last night he didn't call me. So today I called him. I go. I just want to tell you
Last night was the first saturday four weeks. You didn't fucking call me. I'll be home for two weeks
He'll never call
He'll call me as soon as they get on the fucking plane they go. Hey, you want to go eat lunch?
I just told you a month ago my dates
It's fucking crazy. So the mind listen
I
Understand a lot of people because I know what I'm going through
I know when
You have all this shit on your plate and people really can't grasp people have no idea
How to grow away you I look at somebody and I could tell they're in deep thought
I look at somebody and I can tell what's kind of going on
If it's a good time to talk to them, especially if I'm selling, you know, there's always fucking something
That's why when lee comes to me goes hey these people contact them and say, whoa
Let's take a step back take a breath
And go in there with a clear mind
I've noticed in dealing like starting my own business and then just in dealing with people who are working by themselves
And I did it a lot when I was really new at it
Is they try to oversell sometimes so they get really excited and like even after you say yes
They're like, yeah, but it's going to be great because of this and like I already said, yeah
And then they keep going and going and it really you said something like we've been to a
You hear a lot in LA. I'm going to a meeting. I haven't really been to any I've been to like two meetings
Both with you joey, and I'm always like because I don't I don't want to
Talk out of bounds. I'm like, what should I say? And you're like just let them talk
Yeah, like there's no reason to talk first and like so just it's it was it very interesting. It was a very, uh
Like it's important to learn that because you don't want to go to that big meeting
And over talk you see it if you've ever been to a meeting with somebody's out of line
You fucking feel it in the room. You're like, Jesus christ. What is this guy tame him down? Somebody tame him down
It's not good
It embarrasses me. I went to one in january. I met a guy at a christmas party
That was trying to sell me that stuff
again lea
A year later nobody's using
That shit with the viral view of your podcast so you could see the corner
Oh, and he took me to lunch and it was just a fucking beating
Because before you sell let's talk
Yeah, I tell even the guests on the show come a little earlier so we can chit chat smoke a bowl
I don't want to throw you through the fucking lions. I want to slow you down
One of the most genius things I ever heard was gambino
Always had his wife
Answer the door
Why isn't it because he wanted her to slow you down
I don't give a fuck if I just talked to you on the phone and said lee come right up the stairs
Come on talk to me about what troi did to you
He was always in the back room in a meeting
And as fired up as you were he had her stop you at the door
Sit you down give you a cup of coffee or for your cookie. Yeah
So we're a little zen in now you're around a woman
That could be your mom. You know how you're gonna act around your mom. It was a genius move
Uh and that I I didn't think it was a gene
I'm not a gangster, but I thought it better from the other way how you have to slow your horses down a lot
In life, you know when you first come here, you could see the guys that
That nose is wide open not that they're doing drugs, but they want to be a part of everything
You know and they want to be one
I want to be on that show three. I just gonna be there. I gotta be there. I gotta show three. That's how funny I am
And it's kind of and I gotta be honest with you. I was part of that, you know, I was a young comic
I was a young I've always been a dinosaur
But I know what it's like to be in this town and be overly aggressive
You know a lot of those those roles I got I got them in my own because I was sending my own paperwork
Called the casting office. That's unheard of
That's unheard of but I didn't give a fuck. I'm trying to sell a job. I'm trying to pay the bills
Troy you said something very interesting when you at first started you said you didn't want to do
reality TV
And I know there's a lot of people in LA listening and even New York like when I first came out here
I was very lucky and very happy to have had a job
But my job was in reality
And it's just so easy to get because that's all it's a big part of the all they have out here
And like I've never once worked on like a scripted show
Or anything like that
And that was a movie and that's just so hard to get that you get in you get in this little rhythm
of reality shows
And then 20 years later you've edited 20 years, but it's all reality shows. So it's
It's sort of like the nose wide open thing you you should come here and maybe not take the first job
That's offered. Well, no, but you get a good start that way, you know, I mean start with you
They're all stepping stones. Yeah those jobs are all stepping stones to film
And tell of it, you know, somewhere along the line some guys in the company go
I just got a show as a producer
I'm the assistant
Is it reality? No, it's fucking CBS
It's a show with kevin james and marlo hara, whatever the fuck and you're gonna be my uh producer assistant
Now you do that for two years the guy quits. He snorts coke fucks the receptionist
Cheats on his wife. He quits and guess who gets the job you do now. You're a fucking producer on the show for two years
Maybe it stays on for three years seven seasons. You're a producer for four years
You're making pretty good fucking money
You're doing two seasons a year and now people calling you going you want to produce my fucking show on mbc
Bam you are from reality the fucking producer. Oh, it's crazy. Like that's how fucking crazy this world is
Right as soon as like I finished like I was about to make the move
They're just doing this full time
I I literally I went and I went to the meeting at the editors union because I had a amassed enough hours
and
From my sat from my position, which wasn't great. It's an assistant editor
I was gonna make two grand a week on a union tv show
With when and then with because the union I would have gotten like health benefits
And yeah, like maybe I wouldn't be that thrilled with working in reality, but 2000 a week. Are you serious?
I was like three years out of college. I was like, oh shit. Yeah
Why don't you pursue it? You didn't want to go forward? That was right when I decided to do this full time and it was just
I didn't
It just you were just talking about levels. It's stepping stones
It's it's kind of hard to get a union a gig because they're so well-paying
but
I was just I didn't want to
Like we I had just spent we talked a lot about how I was so fucking tired
I was working 10 to 12 hour days editing and then coming here. So
And that's it wasn't my issue was never really
My like morality or like my artistic sense because like I didn't I wasn't really in it for like art
I was just doing it
But I just myself wasn't happy. Yeah, so that's I guess I guess I can two sides of the same coin
But right but within that world like let's say you're editing in reality television
Within that world you can still do something that matters
You can still do something that's that's a little bit outside the the ordinary and make yourself
Like doing something great for you. That's what it's about not I don't mean it in the artistic sense
I mean like just something that makes you happy
That's like maybe contributes in a way to that show that the producers go. Oh, that's fucking amazing
We didn't even think of it this way. That's a really great editor. What like editors control everything editors are the ones who make the movies
Make the shows. Oh, yeah, and then I'm not I'm not trying to bash on people in that industry
That's some of the smartest people like my first boss ever been to bono essentially created youtube
He created america's funny stone videos in 1988. There's something like 20. This is probably 26 or 27 seasons
They have shows
all over the world
He's a genius. I'm I'm just saying for me. I wasn't happy. Yeah working in reality
and
This has been
I mean, what's better than than doing this in my god. Oh my god. You guys this show what this show does for people
It's amazing how much it affects people you just you just look at the comments that people make and the way it changes
How many emails you guys get to tell people like this is this is fucking incredible change in my life, you know
Well, you know, I thought I always thought the truth
uh
Helps people I always knew that I had this truth that I hadn't said to anybody
Just talking about what happened in your life and somebody hearing it
That that happened to you know, they giggled they go. Jesus christ. I don't feel that bad. It's just not me anymore. You know, it's uh
It's just so weird how this podcast has grown and the people that contact me and the different emails I get and
You know today, I answered 30 emails. Wow
and the emails are usually about
the core of the show which is
Being scared and still going for it
Because being scared and not going for it. You're not gonna get nowhere in your fucking life
uh
With the drugs how that affected us, you know, you and I we were all talking about drugs for 20 minutes at the beginning of the show
Which is really interesting conversation about how
drugs evolve in your life
And I didn't know I didn't know about that
Toe cocaine like how
after seven years the drug goes from being a social drug
to probably like my 70th year it became a uh
anti-social drug which just instead of having 15 people in the room
I got it down to maybe three
And by 1994 I had it down to nobody
And I would have a party by myself and get drunk and talking to the mirror like denzel and man on fire
Wave a gun around and act like a fucking moron and
uh
I saw the evolution of it. I saw how it made me anti-social. I'm usually a person that
Likes at least talking shit with somebody in an apartment doing some coke whether it's have
Three males or whatever the fuck, you know
But I saw how that and I'm seeing it now with weed
How sometimes it kicks off
It used to be the edibles when I went to jiu-jitsu
And I stopped all that and sometimes edibles when you take that extra step
The extra 200 milligrams for us like in san jose that time that was 500 milligrams
And I eat three queens of that now
And I'll never forget that my body started changing right there
And I had a gas to the manager. I go go in the kitchen and just take a play to something
I go because I'm gonna fucking it's gonna go. I gotta eat something to stop this animal from growing
Wow
But now I'm starting to get anxiety. I was telling you that
Last Saturday I had anxiety and I had to follow. Nope, you know, just one of the regular guys at the store
Wasn't like I had to follow. Fuck my D. Murphy or Richard Pryor
And I got this dose of anxiety. I had to find the worst was Megan Mooney that night. That was the fucking worst
Morgan Murphy that was the worst
Where I was sitting in mittish chair
Fucking dying, uh, you know
It was just terrible
It happens. Is it if once you get on stage is it still with you or it's gone? No, it's gone. Yeah, that's it
I look at the anxiety before I go on stage
As fear. Yeah, and fear is healthy. Yeah, it's always I feel as healthy
It's healthy to feel for you. I totally think so very healthy, especially when you're in that
Any you're putting yourself in the right position when you go cross train
I'll look at Lee and go Lee today. We're gonna do 400 pounds
You know throw it up in the air and run under a 10-time think catcher. You don't look at me and go joey. Are you fucking kidding me?
I got to take that fear from you and that's what happened to me with jiu-jitsu
Like I was really scared like sometimes when I just tap hands for you
My anxiety level goes up and after I let you throw me down and stuff
And I tap then I get momentum again. I go. I'm not gonna die. I don't know what I'm anxiety about now
I start putting up resistance now
that first
Thing that first hyperventilation for me is always bad
God forbid I got put put fucking
Stars in me or something like if I have three stars in me in the morning
And I go to a radio station and then like you got to walk up steps
I can't walk up those fucking steps like listen. I don't want to see no stairs
When I'm on other bulls, I don't want to see no fucking stairs. Sometimes I take them early before the airport. Oh my god
That american airline you got to walk to that fucking terminal or southwest. You're hoffing and puffing
I get fucking anxiety. Just just sometimes when I grasp for and I can't get it. I get anxiety
That's why I got the nose surgery and
All that shit, but back to stand up
I think that
The anxiety is healthy. It's fear those butterflies man. Yeah, that's what it's all about
I know that when I feel those and and then I have the choice to go or not go
Like to just say, oh no, I got these butterflies. Maybe let's get the fuck out of here
When I go through with it, it's always amazing because it's like I've maybe overcome some hurdle like that fear
looking it in the face
and
Just diving the fuck in the pool
It's like that did something for me
Just that alone, you know
When I'm not nervous, okay, whatever, you know
But that like that anxiety those butterflies like just go don't don't do this go
That's that's when the good shit happens
Because like you you just put yourself in that arena and there's arrows coming at you and you're swatting them off
Like david, you know, whatever the guy in kung fu now. What is david carry now? What is
The
definition of fear like
The fear before I go on stage
Resistance the fear of
Okay, like I something came to my mind one time I was trying to break into his bookie's house and he had a fucking dog
All week I fed the fucking dog. I didn't think he was gonna turn on me the night of the robbery
He turned on me the dog and he chased me
And not only the dog chased me cops or flashlights were chasing me was a dark hallway behind an amp in western new york, new jersey
I'm 57 to 58
That fear I think of that fear I had that day
I don't know what I was more scared of the bookie catching me the cops catching me or the dog catching me
But I remember one
You know when I fucking ran after I ran like a half a mile
That fear just disappeared. I remember laughing my fucking ass off running
Like running and looking for cop cars and I couldn't stop fucking laughing. I loved breaking into apartments
For the thrill of it
Not like a
Like if somebody said lee has coke in that office, that's where they weigh the coke and stuff
They have a safe. You know how many fucking safes I just picked up and walked out with
Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know how many fucking safes in my day?
I just picked up people don't nail down safes. No, here's the thing lee. I never knew about this shit
Okay, I never knew nothing about safes. I was never a safe cracker
If I walked in the house and there was a safe
I felt like shooting myself
Because I knew nothing about safes and I when I was about 20
When I was before I went to colorado at my friend's house. There was this dude that was like a westy
One of the irish mob guys nice though. He's talked to him. He had brothers. He had daughters and kids and I talked to him
and one day he was talking to me about fucking um
Getting a job at this place
for him
As a case he goes, you know the case of joint because he knew I was a burglary
He knew I was a thief and he goes, you know how the case joins pretty good. He was you want to case him for me?
He goes, you're not gonna get in trouble. We get your job in there. You go to work there for three weeks write everything down
And then uh, we go in there and I remember telling him there's a safe and he goes perfect
Look to see if it's bolted down
And I said to him so let me ask you something
If there's a safe you guys take it because
I could get anything open just not there
We don't have the time to do it there. He goes. I got a friend that has a body shop
And they get it open over there. They'll fucking burn that fucking door down
So I learned from him that you would take safes
Then in 83 I burglarized on christmas eve. I burglarized the family mall at the snowmass village fucking resort up there
Christmas eve christmas day if you woke up and asked me that said
Snowmass village mall burglarized christmas eve. It was me on a drunk rage
In those days I used to drink uh
Southern comfort. No, no, no, I was done with southern comfort. There was something else creepy. I was drinking
I was drinking like a lousy like something like that with orange juice
And I would get three of them in me and I go back to thief. I felt like thief and I would get drunk to become a thief
And I would and I remember one night I was like fuck this shit
And I first went and broke into this one place and took like 800 out of there
And I kicked this other door down and took like I picked up the recast register and took that home
Then I went back up there and I broke into this. I mean this place was
You know those malls that they have everything tiles goggles suntan lotion. It's ski season now. So they had fucking
Hats goggles gloves scarves, you know shit like that
and uh
I the door it was one of those doors where you had to was put your two hands on it
It's 1983 guys where it was put your hands on it and pulled
I just broke the bolt with my bare hands like I just went bop
It opened up I closed it and I took a walk to see if the alarm went off a silent alarm
I waited 20 minutes. No silent alarm. I walked back
I fucking ran in there all the registered had that regular shit and they're $10 in singles
So you took a walk outside of the mall after you opened the door
Jesus christ it's
Because I wanted to see if the cops are coming. I could see the cops coming at me like narcos
I had a lookout. I was a lookout. I could always see because cops won't put the siren on but always put the lights on
So I would look for the fucking lights li and if I saw the lights
I get the fuck out of there
You know, I knew that place and I could run around this building and through this building. There was no cameras in those days
You know now you can't do that the fucking satellite picture
Or you need 72 hours and they'll get a satellite that was in that area
To photograph that thing and you're dead. You're dead the mortal
Yeah
So I uh went back in there. I went they had like three registers where people could check out, you know
postcards and shit
You know 10 singles a roller nickels
And I went to the back. I kicked the fucking door down in my drunk and there it was
The fucking safe was right there one of those skinny saves with the combination of the top
How much that thing weigh?
Whatever it didn't fucking matter
I went no hand truck. I took a hand truck. There was a little hand truck in the back
I took that fucking hand truck and I wheeled that savage home and I put it in my buddy's Jeep
And the next day we didn't went to glenwood springs and we cracked that motherfucker open
I hit it out like 20 times with a sledgehammer that didn't do nothing
You have no idea I lost 18 pounds of that but I fucking can't count it
And then when else I robbed another safe one time
I robbed the safe in guttenberg, new jersey at the galaxy towers. I was working as a maintenance fucking man there
I would write the orders for people so I would have to deliver the spot to the apartments
No bonded no background check
They just gave me a place to go
That you could take keys off the wall
And they would have three or four keys on each loop. So I just took a key for each fucking apartment
I had a key for the whole fucking building the galaxy. They got three towers
This is back in
84
And I would fucking go drop off the material people's apartment. Hello, mr. Syad
And I would just say you here and I would keep going back then whatever I could take
I was crazy guys. I was fucking crazy and I went to this room one time. There was another safe
So I kept the key. I took it off the loop
And I I realized that the people went on vacation. They were like in europe or something like that
So friday night, I got fucked up with my friends. I told them to wait downstairs. I just walked up like I owned the building though
But the safe carrier downstairs like a fucking
Put like a blanket on top. Yeah like you work like you just run a delivery like you're the guy that doesn't one person
So I mean I put it on and again I had to take it to fucking seacork and some light on fire
And that had like a string of pearls and I got like the small 2000
And then the biggest one that's known is me and josh wolf
That time he'll tell you that was the heaviest safe ever
He'll tell you that adrenaline that that criminal adrenaline that you get that's a complete different adrenaline
There's sports adrenaline
Then there's criminal adrenaline that shit's crazy. That's what makes somebody stab you anytime
You know, it's hunger. It's desire. You want to fucking be a big shot? You know
And he said there was going to be 50 grand in there from the boston red socks yankees as seattle mariners series yankees mariners
This is back at 90
Seven eight
He's like, yeah, there's going to be fucking 30 grand cash from all the people by beers at the bar
He was going to be out of town. So we got this other guy got this other guy. They go listen
I got this look outside
Do you know what? He was parked outside a cop pulled next to him
Like just to pull next to him like to get coffee
And there's this guy waiting. I'll never forget this. I looked out and I saw him next to the cop and I thought we were dead
And something made me wait five minutes and the cop pulled away
And then he pulled the car in front of the back door and I carried the safe that safe
Had at that time way. I don't know
And I fucking didn't pick it up. I just pulled it
And rolled it on the car, but you could hear the flow
Then there were stairs. I just threw it down the fucking stairs
And it just busted the stairs and I jumped after it. I grabbed it
And then there was another set of concrete stairs
I fucking take that and I fucking carry it to the door. I'm sweating my hands are cut
I'm bleeding, you know, my heart's pumping. I'm drenched in sweat
You're drenched in that criminal adrenaline. That shit makes you fucking sweat everywhere
I pulled that motherfucker out
Frankie the whatever his name was pulled up. We popped this trunk. We both fucking we couldn't pick. I mean, it was horrific
We picked it up to the bumper
We've got to get out of here the cops gonna go we just flipped it in the fucking car sank
It was like a low rider. We fucking took it over the bridge
Took it to where I lived there. We fucking cracked it cracked it cracked it
I go to open the fucking thing and there's a bag filled with change
600 hours
Now we had to take the fucking safe and dump it
Wipe the fingerprints chlorine in the river
Oh, shit. So he dumped it in the fucking river. It's done
You just threw it down like no one came out and was like, hey, everything okay?
It's sunday night one in the morning. It still sounds like like a like a bomb. It was a it was a business building
Oh
You have no fucking idea. You have no fucking ideas. Doesn't that a level of adrenaline make you feel alive though?
Like I was addicted to it. Yeah, I was addicted to it. Yeah, I was a professional piece of shit. I was addicted
To it. I could put a suit on and go into a building in case of fucking building. I just opened this door
Louis
No, no, there's no louis in here. I knew there was no louis in here. I just came in here to see who was in here
And what was in here and what were you guys doing in here?
That's why you always close your door because this guy's like me or just not
Go like this and go louis. I got the big. Oh shit. I got the wrong office
And you're like, thanks for I ain't sorry about that that guy's casing your world
Or you have to assume he's casing your world because that's how I cased your office
Just a regular fat fuck with a suit on
When you're happy, what a nice guy. Oh my god. He was a gentleman
We love his new jersey accent. He's coming back in the now
He's sitting at the end of the hall
Waiting for you to go get hot dogs and for you to go pee and he's gonna come in here because he's seen that wallet
With your car keys you put up there. That's how fast I could work
Wow
It was fucking lightning
It's crazy, but I was addicted to that. Yeah
shit
I got addicted to that make sense. I got addicted to it once a week
You know because I was doing at least one drug burglary a week because you you rob somebody you do the drugs
You hide for a day
You spend the money
And now you need another fucking hookup. Don't you think this is exactly like like, you know, donald seroni
He's the way he trains. He's out there. He's doing bungee jumping. He's skydiving. He's a lot of shit
He's doing the same exact thing that you're talking about like that's his that's his no, it is it's the exact same thing
You chase adrenaline. It's just different different forms different forms of doing it
But it's still the same exact thing and that's what keeps him alive. That's what makes him
Passion about what he does it's still he's got that adrenaline and he'll be the first to say like that's my addiction
Like I'm I'm never giving that up and he's he it's very clear
He's no one's gonna like dana white comes and says hey, we need you telling that done. He's no I won't do that
That's what I that's what I live for like that's what I like things that are real
Yeah, I'll tell you what brought me back to life jujitsu
Yeah, I was telling somebody today that it was because I seen all the weaknesses not only in my jujitsu and my
I saw all the weaknesses in my athletic abilities. I saw the weaknesses in my personal life
I would affect it. I saw the weakness and I couldn't breathe. I was getting anxiety over a guy on top of me
What happens if two guys come out of a car and get on top of me? They rape my daughter. I can't have that position
I can never be in that situation
So actually you prepare your mind god knows it's never gonna happen
But you got to assume it is in today's fucking big bad world. You don't know what the fuck's gonna happen
So when I saw all that whole all those holes in my personal game, I go
I'm gonna stick this out, but what I'm addicted to the most is that in the moment
and I love
My heart beating I love one of my favorite scenes in any movie because the director
Or whoever thought about it was so brilliant was
Godfather before michael shoots the two guys in the restaurant
The train is stopping you hear trains screeching
You hear them stopping to pick people up
If you've ever done anything
bad in your life
There's a point of the adrenaline that your ears start ringing
You have no fucking idea when your ears start ringing when you when you're doing something
You're deaf from the adrenaline
That's a complete different world
When I robbed that jewelry store with with uh marble head that time when I was running up the corner
I was looking at grand larceny, you know, I'm looking at theft. I'm looking at a thousand things
I'm looking basically at 12 and a half fucking years
Or maybe eight years with good behavior, but I'm looking at time
You eat my ears were ringing when I was running
Once I got around that corner and those chains were all over the floor and stuff and I was picking them up
I was the king of the world
That adrenaline fear should have made me get in that car and drive away
But I was till till today when I asked that fucking moron, where's the jewelry and he goes it fell
And I go you fucking kidding me and you just walked up here with this
And I went and picked up those chains by this point everybody was out on the street going hey stop those kids
listen
A bullet wasn't gonna stop me right there
Nothing was gonna I picked up those gold chains from the back of the car got in that backseat
And we took the fuck off. We hit a right. We hit 68th street. Whatever the fuck it was
And also I like the trunk because we were gonna put the jewelry in the trunk
But the trunk didn't open
The trunk was jammed so we had to put it in the back seat the beauty of it
This is at the first light we stopped as a cop
And the trunk opens up as the cop is passing by
The cop never noticed it and we fucking got the jewelry off, but that fear I had running around that fucking hill
When I uh
When I got in trouble in Boulder and I kidnapped Vella
While Vella was in the apartment when those him and the biker were there that tiddwell moron were arguing
And I left him there when I walked into that house
That was the best adrenaline I ever had in my life. Wow
because there was a
A guy that opened the door for you a door guy dressed in an outfit in front of this building
Now I had just been there an hour before to pick the victim up and to take him to the location
When my friend went over he stopped him whatever and they buzzed him up. I don't know how he got up, but when I went back
From the way I slammed that door
When he saw I'll never forget to look on his face. My body language. The adrenaline was coming out of my fucking ears
Because he didn't say good afternoon
He even opened the door for me. I just walked in that fucking building
I got on the elevator that went upstairs and I basically
Walked through the door and kicked it in
My ears were on fire
I mean my body was just hot hot. That's that's a fucking great feeling when you're on fucking fire
I kicked the door and
And they had like a ceiling and I just jumped up and pulled it down
I pulled the whole fucking, you know those uh
Drop tiles drop tile seals. Yeah
Like if the coke was in one of those tiles, I knew the tile. Guess what? I didn't have time
I just jumped up like a gorilla that I am. Oh my god and pulled it
The thing just came. Ah, it was like it looked like 9 11. You ever see all those things hanging. That's how the roof
Like the basement of tower four whatever the fuck it was there was beams hanging dust everywhere
When I walked out I had dust all over my face my shirt
I had ripped that fucking ceiling down
I fucking picked up that coke and I went in the car. You have no idea how I felt
By the time I got out, I was already that clear because it's so funny. How are you feeling dog?
I'm feeling fine. You ready for another star? Sure, but I'm just like
How did you only get caught in ruins? You're tearing down buildings kicking down doors. You're doing 9 11
You're a you're a you're a fucking you're adrenaline. Yeah, we'll take you to places
You can't think you can't think logically, but here's the beauty of it that I've always thought about
Okay, so I parked the car facing whatever the fuck this direction
But when I got
To my right, but when I got in the car
I noticed that there was a newspaper thing and already my head was clear
Because when I pulled out of that thing I crossed over right onto 19th and canyon boulevard and this were the halfway houses
How fucking how much of a sign is that?
And I went in I ripped apart the the two kilos
And I took and I took like a fucking handful of coke out and put it in like a newspaper
But I had in the car that's how much of a primitive guy it was
I took the two fucking packages and I put them under a newspaper thing
So I wouldn't have a mommy
You follow one of those newspaper dispensers or whatever it's called in the street
Yeah, I've done a dispenser, but those little yeah those little stands you get your uh, your free paper
Well, no, it's not a quarter paper. Yeah under there because I didn't want an army at the cost for me home
And that fucking guy at the door didn't even look at me
On the way out didn't say thank you for coming. Thank you for shopping here. Nothing
Not there's zero
Respectory Congress Jesus
Now you you you do something like that with that level of adrenaline you go home
How how long before you can sleep because that shit stays in your system?
I have a handful of coke
Oh between the adrenaline the blow there was uh, they call it adrenaline dump. Is that what it's called?
Yeah, yeah when it's when it's you get it all out and then it just brings you down
But but coke would bring you right back
So yeah, the adrenaline dump is when you get it all out
It's just like oh and then and then you get home and it starts to wear off
And it's like really it goes really low
right
And that's in the soreness comes in. Yeah, that's when you realize fuck. I dropped the glove in front of kato
Because you damn you don't notice the glove when there's adrenaline. That's why that happened. Yeah, that's why
The knife slips. Yeah cuts your fingers. Yeah, you know when I was running from the cops and that dog
I ripped my hand open
I got caught on the bob wire. I had to untake the glove from my skin. No, no, no, no that bingah
You have no idea in today's modern world. I would have passed out, but the adrenaline
Right kept me going kept me going. I didn't even think of my hand bleeding. No fainting. No fainting. No fainting
In fact, I went home and left the glove on I said why fuck with let me go to the ball with the glove on
The glove was filled with blood. Oh, Jesus. I would squeeze it blood. I'm out of the glove
Oh
Fuck it couple cocktails couple volumes
I went home like a soldier the next day. I went to the hospital because I knew they couldn't stitch me up
Because after 12 hours, they can't stitch you up so they could just
So I went 12 hours later. They cleaned it out with the fucking good stuff
Oh my god, it's an open wound. It was just an open fucking
Oh my god, Jesus. Just thinking about this shit that stayed in mind. I was in those few years
Just picture that glove like you're squeezing and just squirting blood out. Oh my god. I had a tooth
I never went to the dentist
I had a tooth that had an abscess and had a little ball on the side
And I would go to the comedy store and I'd be talking to somebody and they you'd be standing if I didn't like it
I could squeeze it and the fucking juice would come out of the hole
Oh
That's some christine beziski such shit right there jack
What does she is that she was at the store last night? She looked beautiful. Yeah, she was great
She looked fucking beautiful her and tom are doing great. They got the baby
The baby's a fucking gorilla. They don't know what to do with him
He's eating a fucking regular cheese steak from new jersey sams. What the fuck that is
No, all that stuff
Now would you black out when you said when you said you don't you can't think were you blacking out or were you conscious of what you were doing?
Or would you just come to in the car like oh shit?
50 50 then I would laugh my ass off like i'm about to do right now
Like I did this scary thing one time. I did this scary scary like even looking back today
I uh had a friend and uh
Things went sour
And she got pissed for some reason or another I got pissed at her
You know, she was a drug dealer. You know, she was a big time medium level drug dealer
I had met her through friends, you know, and I had known her for a few years and
The weird thing was as good as I knew her every time I go over that
She'd always take your money
Or ask you what you want and she'd go in the back room
And then bring you the coat and then you give her the money she'd weigh in the back room
She'd ask you to look at it. She was very cool and see if you like it, you know
If you want more rock or whatever she was very she gave you a great coke
You know
I went over there one night the cop
She was no miss america
You know what I'm saying and everybody knew that
And at the time I thought I was cute and I went over and tried to be cute with her
And she rejected it and I got pissed off, you know, like a young man would do like an asshole that would do
And I never messed with her again until one day I needed money and I go, you know what? That's the house. We're gonna fucking rob
I knew the consequences
First off at that time
I knew that they were going to point all the fingers at me
I knew that this was going to come back to me at one point or another
But at that point in my life, I really didn't give a fuck because I expected her to have a tremendous load in that house
We were gonna fucking become millionaires in my mind
I was always going to become a fucking millionaire my demented drug addicted young mind
They had a million dollar stashed in there and I was said I was gonna buy a fucking super
You know, you're a fucking kid, you know, you got the dumbest fucking ideas
And one day I put a crew together. I got my buddy two of my buddies. I said listen, man
There's a fucking big payoff there
And when I told them the name both of them looked at me like you don't want to do that. I go, yes, we are
That's why we're doing it because they don't expect nobody to get hit
You know what I'm saying they don't expect nobody to get hit now
I thought I had the door when I got there. I couldn't get the door
I
Was always good with doors and I would look at them and try to come up with a way why I could get into that door quick
She was a drug dealer, but she didn't have a top bolt
Kind of fucking dumbier you it's that easy to get in without a top bolt
Well, it's only one instead of two. Yeah, and it's way, you know, those little regular things I could
You could go through you could put a shoulder into those fucking things a good shoulder
Hit it close to the door
Like don't go in the middle of the fucking door if you're trying to break that
You're trying to break that right there that grip
It's like when you break a grip you push away from the fingers same fucking thing
You got to push away
P in the movies they always go to the door like johnny bananas. No
I would treat it like a football tackle and I would get like a three point stance
And that's why my shoulders probably jacked today and I would put everything I had into that middle
And then I would have a gorilla going behind me
And we'd wipe the fucking door open
Or I bring a screwdriver. I could say I get a screwdriver in there. There was always different angles
Maybe there was a glass on your door
I could break the glass and put my arm through and open up the fucking door. There's always an angle
The consumer doesn't know it
Yeah, I know it where I just moved into this glass the door. I don't like it. That's getting covered up this week
Because I don't like glass in the front. That's just a no fucking brain
What are you? Well, somebody don't hear it. Yeah, really?
Really, somebody don't fucking hear it. Nobody'll hear it
Nobody here is shit. We're programmed not to hear dick. And if they do who's gonna go outside just like what you're saying with the
Yeah, I'll break the glass and walk away
So if they come out they don't really see nothing and they get back in the house
There's so many things people don't see
That you think people gonna see they don't see
I've done a thousand things right in front of people looking at me and they don't see it
Your mind doesn't pick it up something. I've seen it a thousand times. You're not looking for that
You're not looking for a drug deal going down on your street
So you're sitting in front of your drink with your husband drinking coffee
And I come up with like a fucking
construction bag or a gym bag, but I'm dressed like a gym guy
You follow me you come up looking the way you are and I sold you an ounce of coke right there
And you got on the bus I made you get on the bus get off the next block walk back to blocks
With some big fucking deal
Plus how often when you're driving
Well, you just look up and be like, oh, I don't remember the last five minutes of this
I think that happens in everyday life. I don't think it just happens when you're driving
Especially if you're doing something that you do a lot like your morning coffee
Or or mowing the lawn you just phase out and you're not you you're making it very easy for people to not notice it
Because you're acting like you're supposed to be there wherever you are
Like that's that's the skill right
That's when you're wheeling it when you're taking a hand truck with a save you put a blanket on it
You see somebody you just like hey, how you doing? You wave at him. Yeah
We do this everything you want to get the this thing's really heavy. You want to help me put this in the trunk. Oh my god
It happens all it's absolutely last night
Pablo Escobar he goes into the store and the cop drops a quarter. He gives the quarter to the fucking cop
The most wanted fucking man that happens every fucking day
I I used to I used to do is I'd sneak into concerts
But my thing was uh, I would walk right in the front door and that like one of the times
There was like three bouncers and I just walked down. I go. Hey guys
What uh, we're getting pizzas. What do you want and I go? Oh, we're gonna go pepperoni. We'll do two way
What do you want? All right? All right guys, all right
And I and I just walk in but like I act like I'm supposed to like why would anyone walk in getting pizzas for the bouncers
You know that made me a in a position of authority and I can just walk right in enjoy the show
It's amazing what you could do with body language. Oh, yeah
If you if you act like you are supposed to be there nobody really questions that it's
amazing
Yeah, how much body language contributes
To so much when you watch those shows in discovery like I don't watch a lot of shows in discovery
But this time I'm in the whole tower room. I just did two fucking shows 250 people a show
I talked to 200 people I go back to my hotel room. You're not you're tired, but you're so tired your body's glowing
So what do you put on that that show you like the prison show or my 600 pound life?
That's the shit you watch at the little night because it don't need a lot of attention to watch
And it calms you down that stupid shit
You're not gonna get into seven at two in the morning because that'll take you till six
You follow me seven movies like that
Scarface, you know something comes on at that at that time one third of your doom, but
The cop show but what happens it's cell gate C and all that shit. You'll stay a fucking wake for
You'll wake up and it's still on there's still some fucking jail in new mexico smacking people in the head with sticks and shit
It's funny
It's weird
I uh, I said we talked last week how I was going to get rid of the facebook app. I did that
I I got rid of cable
And and it's weird how all these like those kind of shows
Can take over your life. I like I had I had the uh one of my first big screen TVs
I had burned into it the espn side thing that on sports center where it tells you what the topics are going to be
Because I would just leave it on all night. Oh shit
And like when you take that stuff away that you get addicted to it's amazing how much more time there is
Like it's weird. I'll change you. I took yeah, I took the facebook app off my phone
Oh, it's terrible four or five years ago and it's it's amazing how nice it is to not have alerts all the time over
Things that are not important for your life. It actually lets you live
Yeah
I uh moved this weekend
And there was times that I would put you know hotmail on I was like we were talking we get stoned
And we open up all five links and you open up wikipedia and your research thing
You're looking for plane tickets and you're sending an email and you're waiting for somebody to send you an address on twitter
So you go back and forth to twitter
And there are days where I don't write on twitter on the weekends
You know, I've made myself a personal thing sunday at five
I'm allowed to fuck around on twitter
Before that i'm not allowed to fuck around on twitter
You got to give yourself a day and a half two days friday people traveling
We said what we had the same monday tuesday wednesday and thursday people can don't comprehend that
Go get on twitter and go where you been
You have to give this
Thing a fucking breather. Yeah, you know people always gonna be joey. You have so many fucking stories because I didn't have a fucking internet
Hmm
Yeah, you know you're reading about these stupid fucking stories because you're sitting there reading it's two in the fucking afternoon
Why are you in the goddamn house?
Why the fucking doing the goddamn house?
I could see if your hurricane camilo
Whatever the fuck his name is that's in new jersey now. It's fucking raining
But I never understood uh
That part of it, you know, if you want it you have to cut the shit that
It takes time away from you
The worst thing is uh is
Getting yourself in a position where you're just staying at home uh and doing stuff from home because
That just that just can lead you there's no you're not accountable to anybody and you can just do whatever the fuck you want
And it and you don't do the important stuff
You end up doing the bullshit stuff when the first that when I first moved to uh, los angeles
I rented a room from a writer
And uh the deal was he said you can only
You only get to sleep here
So this room is yours from you know 10 o'clock at night until 9 in the morning. You got to be gone at 9
But you can live here
So this guy because he used he was a writer and he used the place during the day and he had meetings there
So I had to be out
And and I just ended up finding great. I that that was I got so much stuff done
I met so many people I was out there in the world. I was out there in hollywood a town new to me
That was the best thing I ever did if I was at home just on the internet
I would have been living this virtual life like who knows what it was like, you know
But that was great to just be propelled out there
When I was 18 when I was going through high school hbo was still pretty new
And hbo had a show about a guy who hitchhiked the hitchhiker
Is it called I think that's what it was called. There was a guy who got in cars and sometimes women blew him
And sometimes you just got to meet people and go to a different town
It was sort of like kung fu
He kept traveling, you know
That was always like a distant dream for me
But after my mother thought I had no hooks in new jersey
So I gave me the green light to experiment a little bit and travel, you know
I looked around a lot when I was growing up and I would look what these guys would do
And some of them were successful in their own little way
Considering they where they were coming from, you know, we were coming from my same neighborhood very blue collar
And now they got into some managerial union position and maybe they're making 90k a year
And then I'm titled to pay their mortgage and have his wife a nice car, you know, shit like that, you know
But I would see their traveling patterns
And they will go to Atlantic City and they will go to Florida
And this is what they did every year they wouldn't even fucking consider going past Chicago
And I always thought there was a little bit more to life
You know
So when I got the opportunity to travel
You know, I was always intrigued with colorado
Because when I was a kid on abc news when you were watching eye witness news that I always put, you know, even today
Uh 10 o'clock eastern 7 o'clock pacific 9 o'clock western and 8 o'clock mountain time
And I always said mountain time. How fucked up is mountain time? What a fuck is mountain time?
So when I got to go to colorado, it was because of mountain time
I like the idea
When I moved to seattle it was because I like the seattle supersonic for a while
They were in the finals one year with jack sickman. That's why you moved there. Yeah, it was just but I like the logo to the comedy club
The seattle underground. I just thought there was something to it
You know, there was something to it all those names meant a lot to me when I first got into comedy
And meant a lot to me to play that club in boston
Uh in the fucking market there that you that closed out and leave. What was the name of that place?
Kelsey hall and fennel hall
There were all these locations that you had to play in because they were your gold
You know, this was part of your gold. You had to play in the comedy store
And the underground and you had to play
What was the phoenix when I started interesting that you started in phoenix. Yeah, so phoenix had with knuckleheads
He had the comedy zone comedy zone six clubs in 94 or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely
You started with stanhope stanhope started phoenix. Yeah. Yeah, we had yeah, we the first
The first paid gig I ever had was with stanhope stanhope was I think he was feature
He was featuring at that point
Like he was featuring the improvs. He was the god of that time like you're featuring the improv
Like uh, and it was g.e. Howard's club was called uh
I want to say it was well, it used to be finny bones and then it became like comedy zone or something like that
It wasn't one of those hotel, you know, restaurant bar things, right?
Like crazy, you know, I'm talking about because if any but it was finny bones in a comedy zone
I think but it was crazy, man
There there were so many clubs at that time and I forgot the laughs the one on the freeway. It was like laughs
Not laughs and limited but something like that. It was laughs and
Tucson and then there was a laughs in new mexico. You had an albacruz
Before rosarivas
It was a guy's club that died in the motorcycle accident on new year's day
A great fucking guy just a great because that was the thing laughs had a bad name
Except his club. Wow. He was a mexican dude. He was a biker
You when he took you to dinners. He treated you good. He put you in a hotel
Well, uh, the other two clubs laughs and the other one in Tucson
Were kind of fucking shitholes. So
He would I don't I'm just saying this at the time guys. I mean the worst condos at reputation worst condos
He died and russ. I started with russ. Wow
It's so weird. I was a doorman and russ was already featuring
Oh, shit. All right at the witsend and in the oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's right. I forgot you did wits
That was my favorite club in colorado. Oh
West minister dog. I never did it. I worked there as a doorman and the sound guy right then a fucking bar back
And then I told the guy I'm
Wanted to come me and he was like, you'll never make it not in this town. You're
You're a big new yorker and he trusts me on this. They do what you're doing here. You'll be managing this place
I'm like, fuck you
I'm gonna get on fucking stage when I'm gonna stay here with you and give orders to these young kids and you shit
and uh
The big clubs. Well, what the fuck were they? Yeah, yeah, knuckleheads. There was always an improv and tempeh
Yeah, and then there was that one that opened in the Scottsdale mall. It was like the
It was like a then like name like the sphere or some kind of like techno. We name, you know, I'm talking about
It was in this like Scottsdale plaza. This is what happened. I'm gonna tell you my fucking experience in this
in the spring
The
spring is march
spring of 95
Spring of 94
I get a
A call I call I talked to a buddy of mine. His name is Todd Jordan great comic
And we're having a discussion and I go what some good clubs that are locally that you get me a showcase at
And he goes, why don't you you you could eat one of those just eat half of it first?
I don't want you to pull an old Benjamin
Next thing, you know, you're in glendale talking to our minions eat this just kebab and shit. You don't know what joey
Diaz is just in the half of it. Yeah, just to get into your head a little bit
What we talking about hilly
The clubs all those phoenix clubs the phoenix club. So I call this guy and he says to me joey
It's time for you to start going out and showcase
I go, what's a showcase? He goes, you gotta go to clubs and do a free set
And let them know you're fucking alive
He goes because nobody's doing that. This is how you get into clubs. I go, all right fine
So
I call knuckleheads because at the times knucklehead had three clubs
They had phoenix. They had miniapolis and they had somewhere else. Yeah, um, I don't remember where but they did like portland
Portland miniapolis and uh, and phoenix
I go how far is the drive to fucking phoenix?
They tell me like 12 hours. I say fuck it. There was no thought of a plane in those days of my world
At that time I worked for the national car rental
And I was I became friends with this kid and he was just a great kid
And he really admired what I was doing. He was young like if I was
30 he had to be 25
And he admired what I was doing. He was like, really you're gonna do stand-up tonight. Yeah
I'm gonna tag along and then one day he came to me goes. Hey, man. I want to help you with your career
I said, you a writer. You know people he goes. No
He goes pass out this box of flies and I give you 100 bucks. It was an hour of work
Everyone's so why he called me every year and then it got to the point where I would just call him up and borrow against the work
He'd give me
Then he got me a job when I went in there and applied he got me the job and then he became my boss
So I went to him like a man. I go, hey, man. I'm gonna fucking bind
Is there any way I can rent the car from you?
And you could take it out of my check and I'll work here for the next three weeks for free
And he goes, what about a brand new car and if you bring it back the bill would get lost
Hey, what does that mean?
He goes, I'll rip up the bill and
Say that you gotta take the car for business. Oh, yeah, you gotta take the car to drive somebody
On a certain date
I mean he that broke my heart
Like I had to borrow 200 from a friend of mine loose serrillo just to get gas money
That I was gonna give to him and then I was gonna borrow another 100 from a friend of mine joe coch
And try to figure it out. This is how crazy I was like
I was gonna get the car with $100 and go to phoenix
Drive 12 hours with 100 bucks
Didn't give a fuck. That's how much the dream meant to me. I'll figure out how to come back
I'll figure that I'll rob a gas station. I'll figure it the fuck out
I got in that car this kid didn't charge me. So I had 200 hours
And 200 was perfect for the drive down there and I took the 200 and I got in that fucking car
And you know as hungry as you are I drove nine hours. I pulled over
I slept at some fucking parking lot until the sun came back out
And then I found the gas station
Brushed my teeth put water in my face
And I went to the club and I sat there. I thought the club was open all day in those days
And I could just walk and say yeah, I'm a comedian. Sure
Go down to the corner. There's a whole tub room. Don't put you in. Tell them it's us
Get a meal at the restaurant and come back and do a shot. That's how I thought comedy worked
Like that's how retarded I was
I go to the club. I knock on the door. That motherfucker's shut tight jack
I'm sitting out there all day in that fucking sun and that heat and phoenix in a car with air conditioning
I had nowhere to go. I had no friends. I didn't know who to fuck the car
Nobody I had nobody to fucking go. I don't know nothing about phoenix. I hadn't been to tempi since 84
I used to go to tempi and visit a buddy man that was down there on the lam
He was down there smoking mushrooms with indians and shit like that. So
I would visit him. I knew nobody I sat in that parking lot Lee
in that comedy store parking lot and wrote stupid fucking jokes and
Wrote my dreams down and how I was gonna fucking bust out and
Somebody was gonna see me somewhere at one of these clubs and I wouldn't have to do what every other comic did
At first that's what I thought. I really believe that I was just gonna go on stage. Somebody's gonna see me and go
Come on. Let's go. I think everybody had that starting out. No
That was a time. Well, that was a time where you'd hear about like, oh, yeah
This person gets discovered from the comedy club and there was a time where that kind of thing you'd hear about
Really, but it wasn't a reality. It was just like I think it was one of the like
Yeah, that's how you get discovered like people were doing it for that. They're like 90s anyway
I just wanted to be saved. I just wanted to stop being a criminal
Like if fucking somebody sees me
It's over
Like if somebody could see my five minutes set and they could just take me to Richard Pryor's house
I can smoke couple rich and we could do jokes and shit. Like that's what I really thought. That's how stupid and naive I was
So I waited for them to come
I went inside I asked for whatever the guy's name was
I mean, I got there and the waitresses were hating me because I was in the way
You know
I had to use that bathroom to get ready and use a shirt. I mean this was ghetto
To the max league. You don't know when somebody walks into your club. Does the bathroom like a
You know, and I'm in there no shirt on with paper towels wiping my armpits in my face brushing my teeth
Wetting my hand putting gel in my hand with a shirt that was crinkled up
Then I'm sitting at a bar, you know after that I'm sitting at the fucking bar as annoying as can be
So what time does the show start and then like is jeffy and jeff I called you to the guest spot. All right
Guys like cool. Yeah, you can do a guest spot, man. Everybody was cold to me
They charged me for a coke. I was furious
Then the first show came in
And I got on stage and just my accent killed them
There were some new yorkers and they'd laugh and and shit and I was talking about godzilla. I was doing terrible material
But I took them to where they had to go for five minutes. I got on stage
I go to pay my tad the guy goes no, no, no, no
He goes do me a favor. Can you stay for the second show?
They didn't charge you for drinks ever again
And then he asked me goes are you hungry?
Was I fucking hungry Lee? I was trying to eat my finger because I didn't know how much money I needed
But at point I probably had 90 bucks that I needed 80 for gas
So I couldn't take a chance and even got a veggie. That's what's only got a veggie and cheese
That was the cheapest thing I could get a subway veggie and cheese
And he goes stay for the second show
I stayed did the second show. I think I ate like uh
A roast beef sandwich. I didn't really want to be too over the top. I didn't drink anything. I had no coke
Nothing I was and the second show were late and I think I cursed and I did better
So he goes wait, I'll talk to you in a second. He brought me in the back
And he goes, uh, when do you want to come back here? And I go, I don't care no
And he goes, how about you come for two weeks?
Like eight months from that date, whatever it was April. I was gonna come back like in november
He goes you could stay for two weeks
300 a week, maybe 250 a week to mc
I had to drive down there. I didn't give a fuck Lee. I was getting my break. This is it
And then uh, he goes, what are you doing tonight? Where are you staying? I go in the car. He goes, no
Go to the condo
the features local
Go over there and take a shower take a bath spend the night you could stay till monday
And I went over there. I got up I watched
Some baseball the other comic. I don't know who the fucking the headliner was
I asked him creepy questions that night
And creepy questions that morning. He got me high. We went to breakfast. He gave me his number
And I got back in that car and drove back with two fucking weeks of work at a club as an mc. I didn't give a fuck Lee
I was going back to the great
That's that's the best feeling. It was the fucking best and then I get home and I'm doing comedy
I'm fighting my wife and all this shit
I'm getting to the comedy works when also I got a fucking page
It's a voicemail and I get on and I'm like, hey joey, it's joe from the knuckleheads. I just want, you know, we're closing
I go, what do you mean you're closing you're closing tonight and he goes, no, we'll close the whole chain
And that was my first experience with fucking counting on the road. Who is that tony bennington second?
I want to be around
To pick up the pieces when somebody breaks your heart
Some somebody twice as smart
As I
Hold up on
Look at that Lee asking for a fucking bomb. When was the last time you asked for a bong?
Second not a while
Lee I didn't bring you a chapter
Sorry about that, buddy. I'll see you tomorrow
Okay
This fucking beautiful jam for you monday september 5th, this is it guys like I was talking about in the periscope
So
Thank you, Lee
I was telling these guys on the periscope the reality is it's september 5th
This is the fourth quarter
That's it
You're at the fucking you're at that 30 yard line. You're marching in jack. This is it. This goes by
So fucking fast now
That you can't blink an eye if you haven't gotten your shit together by this time of the year it gets ugly
Young employment runs out about this time and shit. Once the unemployment runs out in october. It's a cold mother fuck out there
You gotta take one of those kitchen jobs this shit. You've always dreaded
cooking and fucking frying shit and talking chinese to people
You want another one? No, I'm good. Are you ready for a bong in life yet?
Absolutely
I don't want you blowing your top and you can't talk your eyeballs got so red before
They got like the guy fucking what's his name choke the narcos remember how his eyeballs got red?
They don't fuck around down there
So you started as a comic in phoenix. Yeah, who else besides stanhope you remember?
Oh
God man. Well, I mean this was when you know, there was genesis. I don't know if you ever knew genesis
Didn't popla francisco was in tuson. He would come up and there was ron mori. You must know ron mori ron
Love that man. And then gary menki. So those are the guys that started manki
The manker he just passed away reason. No, no not not manki. Manki's still running a club
I want to say he's running a improv in tampa or something like that. Oh that gary menki. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Who died from dan murr? No, no, no the other guy died too mark anderson. No the guy from uh laps
He was like, uh, he's always been at laps tuson as an assistant kind of saw the nice sweet guy. Oh, no, not uh, gary hood
Yeah, gary hood. I didn't know gary hood. Yeah gary hood passed away. Yeah, he was yeah, he lived in tuson's
We we did stanhope. Yeah gary hood passed away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
But I don't think gary was taking care of himself. No, he was in I as a matter of fact the last time I worked at club
I want to say
Six years ago
He was
I stayed at his place and he was definitely in really bad health. Like he was you know, he was in a lot of trouble
I think I think he had diabetes and he I don't know man. Things were bad though
You know, man, I'm over 50 and I gotta be honest with you guys once you in 50
You could go at any time
That's a fucking reality. You go at any time
No symptoms, you know, you stretch for some you get a heart attack. You go at any fucking time
My heart has lasted as long as it did
Especially after these adrenaline stories and the code
And there's 20 more of those adrenaline stories. I can't come to my mind right now
So you uh
You know people always say me joy. You should do the third week a month on the road. You should do this. You should
I don't want to die in the road
One of my biggest fears is when my wife had to call Lee and say you have to go sign for him. I can't go
I got the kid
I can't hold a kid and then from there why even send them back to california
Send me straight to north bergen new jersey so I could die with veneria at the parlor over there. You know
Besides it'll give me half price. That's a fucking savior these days
So you got to work that way once you hit 50 you really got to think that way
So you have to take a little care of yourself. I think the road you could take care of yourself on the road
I'm not saying you cannot you could stay away from greasy food because I do it now
I do it now it costs you a little bit
You have to walk a little bit and do what you need to do
But you go to gelsons, you know, I'm saying you don't listen
You cannot eat three fucking meals like an animal like that after the age of 35 you cannot I can't
I'm talking about waking up and going to houston. Let's say I'm in houston, texas waking up and getting
A cheese omelet with fucking french fries crinkle cut fries
With a motherfucking side order a white toast with this iced tea with sugar and lemon in that bitch
Yeah, but on the way over you got to get a couple kala cheese and shit
So they get your blood going then you go home and take a nap
Then you wake up and go to ante chang's duncan palace and you have the fucking lunch special
Plus an extra fucking order of spare ribs because you're an animal
Then you go home and you eat a fucking sandwich while you're watching mori or whatever some chick that's trying to get pregnant by white people
then you
Then for dinner you go eat at a fucking restaurant again
And the fried food, you know, and then you got to get the late night talk of all
Then you got to get the late night it kills you on the road and and people don't I don't get stressed out of the road
Listen, I do not get stressed out my stress levels. In fact, I have a great time to be honest with you guys
I think it's a travel
It's a travel that wears me down
I had to take a nap today guys. I didn't do much this weekend. I take a nap today because my body's programmed
To nap on sundays. How long do you do a nap for?
What's that? How long like how long do you nap for on a day like that an hour and a half
When I go on the road and I wake up at five in the fucking morning
And you get on a plane to come home when I get home. I'm up till about two
And then I'll sleep in two to five
We will not do the podcast on a sunday night because I'll be tired. I don't want it
I don't want to deal with somebody four nights in a row. That's a lot of nights
I might not go to the store tonight to be honest with you. Yeah, I don't feel too good tonight
I'm starting to get something. I think I'm just gonna stay home by my fucking business
You gotta take care of yourself as a comic. You do you really do
You know, there's five nights a week you can get caught up drinking on all those nights and
Picking at food and and then you sleep late and I don't I went up to 418. You're talking to the wrong guy
You know, you said at the comedy store at night you drink those coca-colas
All night long with rum you think that you know, those are 400 calories a piece. No, there was no fried chicken
At the store. Oh, I have not merely ate the fried chicken one night
Not the fried chicken the chicken time the chicken time
That wasn't a kitchen then that was just a dishwashing
They had the booze there and they had that they used to wash the glasses there and shit
Well, do you guys like eating late even when you're home?
because like I'm
Like I can I will not eat during the day like I'll have like one meal
But like at 11 o'clock even without the edibles sometimes Mike like I'll just want to eat
And that and that's like yeah, like the worst thing for you to do. Yeah
No, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I never did it
Lee and I have a discussion once a week. I bore Lee with the same fucking story about
My dream Lee is only one. I love Lee
Everyone loves Lee
Lee's a fat fuck like me me and Lee and me and Lee together and not a good couple on the outside Lee knows it
Lee and me when we go out to eat we fucking throw down
When we when me and Lee go out to eat, we'll fuck your world up chocolate cake
You know and Lee's not gonna say no to me and I'm not gonna say no to Lee
And I know what Lee's thinking when he looks at the menu. I know Lee that fucking well
He's looking at the most I could take a lead of fucking hearty moans
And he'll pick the most disgusting thing on the menu, but I'm proud of him
I'm proud of him. I'm gonna go Lee go. He'll get the potatoes. He'll go for you. The lobster last time
He don't like lobster. He ate the lobster with me, bitch. He ate the lobster with me, bitch
Yeah, we got a coupon or something people sent this like a lot
And me and Lee went and Lee had the fucking fried it only I don't like lobster that night. He was fucking eating
you you
One quality you have is you are good at being fat like I've been thinking about a lot
There's people who are fat
And you talk you talk about by eating good food
What you really mean is that you know what like not that it's good quality
But it just it's what is the fucking best like paul will come to me
But like you're like my meal is always better than her meal
Because I keep it simple and I just know
Because I spent a lot of time being fat. I know what's gonna be good
And like can I tell you what I've trust me? I've been to toggle bell
I've never once ordered one of those doritos tacos
That's a new thing with the cheese in the middle. That's okay because I'll tell you why you can't fuck with here
Here you go. You can't fuck with toggle bells cheese because they use the disgusting cheese sauce. That's gross
Don't put that in quesadillas and call that a quesadilla. Yeah, that's really sick
I would rather I don't want to throw it in their face when they do that to me
But that like that you can't tell me it's like that movie theater cheese. Yeah, you you
Like no like we go to Morton's you get the steak and you know
You're just so do you are like I told you a couple weeks ago. You're very calculated
And it goes to eating too
Like you you know the salad, you know the thing but you you know like the your
Trick was the chocolate cake because that's how you like no one would order that wait. What's the chocolate cake trick?
It's like it. It's not a trick. It's just like a six layered
Amazing chocolate cake with homemade whipped cream. I would never get dessert
We know we never get when I go to no, we don't ever get dessert, but this cake
Oh my god, I wouldn't make you get nothing unless I was throwing heat at you
Like I'm the type of guy that if I got the best coke in town, I know you don't do coke
I'll call you out when you look at I know you don't do coke, but do a blast to this
So you can tell people you did the mother of pearl coke. This is directly the chinese palace and shit
This is mixed with ying ying juice and acupuncture needles. You snort this shit. It's over
That's the type of guy. Yeah, I don't like fucking around with people
I don't like wasting people's time
When it blows me out of the water, it'll blow a civilian
Because it takes a lot to blow my fucking head off
It's like that spicy lobster at that place. It blows your fucking head off
You could go there and just get eight appetizer plates of that immediately. We've been mainly we'll do that before the year is over
We're gonna do one of these podcasts that ends at eight and I'm gonna go leave getting the car
Well, I gotta put the podcast up people gonna complain Lee
Get in the car. I want a two-point entry. I'm trying to tame him terry. I have to do a two-point exit
I'm gonna do a two-point exit. It's a nightmare. It's a fucking nightmare
30 years old. He couldn't get a license in jersey. You gotta do a two-point fucking parking
He can't two-point exit. This is a swish and you pull out like
I do it every time now. No, he doesn't it takes him an hour
It moves an inch of foot
I love that you're right there by the way because that's you you love that
I don't think you'd be behind like stepping behind my car and getting hit a little bit
Oh, I'm waiting to get tapped. You know me. I'll cut you. I want to wake up. I'll fucking no. I just go down
All of these the car to go like this. Look, that's it. I'm going down. It's over
Ah, what hurts everything. Don't be specific. Jew training 101
Everything even so you gotta think about the attorney at court. What's he's gonna ask you at the moment?
You got hit with the car mr. Diaz
What hurt
You yelled and
What I said everything what one of my fucking retarded. I just told you
The fucking what the ambulance guy said everything hurt
When you said everything you mean everything like what your knee your leg listen to me
I could feel my fungi toe vibrate
He almost knocked the nail off my fungi nail and he knocked the liquid out of my ear
I can't even hear you right now. I don't even know what the fuck I'm here if it wasn't for the sign language guy
That's the move to make them read a sign language
Oh, that's the one and about another year. I'm sure you gotta listen. You gotta bring a sign
Oh my god, I love uh doing this shit all sunday and sometimes you just giggle them
So you got into this to stand up you went to work with dany because you knew crazy dany
We uh, we talked about dany the week after he died. All right, I remember that and r.i.p.
I remember that I love them. I listened to that five times. Oh my god. That was one of the funniest things I ever did
Yeah, you said yeah, uh, uh, he was a he was a sick fuck. May he rest in peace like that
It was the greatest greatest transition ever in my life. He was yeah, he I gotta be honest here
Listen, man, I'm attracted to crazy people
crazy people seek me
That's who my mo is crazy people attracted to crazy. Yeah, you know
I liked him. I liked him a lot. He made me laugh
He was the hard nut to break in the beginning it took me three years to get in that club
And even then he'd break my fucking balls rogan had to bring me in
Then he would give me love then he was really giving me love
Then him and I hit it off and he was good to me, but everybody always thought I did blow with the poor guy
I never did a line with that guy. It was crazy. I knew that if I carried him with me, I couldn't get rid of him
I knew that by his personality. He liked going out man. That was his thing. This is yeah dan mur tempi improv
He was he was that's what he was known for like he's the guy
He's gonna take you partying you take you drinking you see there's a band in town or he's got you know spring sting tickets
There's always something
always my worst nightmare
Is when he was a party party. He was a partier
He did the craziest shit man. He rented a bus that time with jimmy shuber called the bow
They rented like a gambling bus. Do you remember? I didn't know I was never yeah
I remember that I remember they went to see bob dillon
So they rented a bus that you could drink on and gamble on and do the fucking whole thing when we were leaving the improv
He was getting there
He was one of those guys and you know what here's the sad part about it that
Troy's gonna
You know you're a good
You read character as well and you like dan and this is what I read of dan. I read dan dan was the
slash
Gentle manager of the tempi improv if he was here in this room right now
He'd tell you he owned it plus the mall
You know, you know, yeah, whatever, but it didn't matter. I like dan. Yeah dan was a lonely guy
Yeah, he was just
He wanted so badly to be a player
He wanted people to tell him he was bigger than hartman
He was trying to find you know, he gave a lot of people a lot of money to make little investments
Yeah on movies and shit and they fucked them, you know, yeah
Yeah, no, I heard that he did a lot of that and he he really did come from a good place on all this stuff
He had all his demons but man, he was he's like everybody was trying to be the best they can be he was a lonely guy
and he just wanted to be
Known like that magazine they wrote about him. He took that out and bronzed it
Oh put it right in the entrance when you walked in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
it takes walls to hang
An article about yourself
You want to hang it in your office, you know next to your trophies from college? I mean
But to hang it up at the business
He and it was huge. It was the first thing you fucking saw. I mean, he was really in love with it and I
I saw that but the last three years of his life when I was involved with him now that it was not good
Like the last not last three years the last three times I'd gone to his club
I saw something that was completely different. He was gone
And then the Superbowl went down there and he lost it
Because he thought he was gonna be invited to all those parties. Oh, but what he didn't realize is
It's in Phoenix
Nobody's gonna drive the tempi
He kept thinking. Oh my god. All these celebrities are gonna come to my club
Nobody showed up that one person. Oh, wow. They all stay in the fucking hut by the Superbowl
You know I'm saying that's where they stay if you've been to a Superbowl, they don't leave that fucking village there. So
You know, he got really disappointed
I hated and I couldn't believe that that it's like you really thought they were gonna come over here and get you
Well, look at my picture on the wall. I'm the owner
Yeah, well, he you know, he was uh, you do that stuff that that kind of thing
Like, you know, when you hear a comic walk in and talk about where they've been and their resume
The first thing they say it's like that doesn't come from a place of having a big ego that comes from a place of
Just somebody who's a little bit terrified and a little bit
Insecure about what what's going on. They just haven't gotten comfortable, you know
And so he had that and he you know, that was what he did. He was a cock blocker
You could not talk to a woman at his club
And you would try to justify it. But then
One of the weirdest things happened
in 1998
99
Way before I met my wife. I went down there
Now at those times tempe improv was the club you wanted to do well at
Oh, yeah, because that's the biggest that put when you told people you work weekend to the tempe improv
That high it's huge because they knew that the club was quality all the way
You didn't slip through the fucking cracks there. You know how I always say that saying it's not how many people you shoot
It's who you shoot
You in 10 15 years ago in in 2099 98 97
If you had the tempe improv on your resume, you could sell yourself into a lot of clubs as soon as you faxed them your resume
They would bite because they knew it was a militant club. They knew that
You know david spade they taped the fucking specials there. They did the young comedian special there
A lot of people don't remember that with nick de palo and andy kindler
Who's the other the louis ck? No the director from
All those movies that works on Judd apatow. Yeah, yeah
You know that club had some heat to it. So would you put it down if even even if you're in a bad set
Oh, yeah, it didn't matter you perform. Yeah, they're not gonna check
How do they do when you did that? No, they were like, wow you perform that just
Just the fact that you walked in there and performed that that was like the holy grail club. That was the holy grail club
Yeah, so I had worked there like twice. I had done a latino tour there one time
Where they paid you 400 bucks and I gave you a hotel room that night. Uh, yeah, it's like joey medina
Yeah, okay knocked on my door
You're at the wrong fucking door and oh my god. It was hard. I was coked up
She took me by storm and I sat there for an hour going I should have hired her
Like I'm like, I should have hired her. She would have sucked my dad wasn't even thinking like that. I was so coked up
It was an easy in and out it was easy phoenix to la and then I went down there and I forget who the headliner was
And I went down there
He called me and he goes, can you make it down here by Thursday? Wednesday night, you know
At that time I didn't I didn't have a resume. I'd done like mad tv
And maybe analyze that and it was big to me like I was like fucking december
It's gonna be all over when analyze that comes out
He called me and he goes come on down and guys at that time
I was living on a couch sometimes in a car
I had no confidence, you know like girl confidence. I was just trying to he was paying 550. I think
I would just try to get coked two of the nights. I was there and
That was my big thing
If I could eat and just I would buy two shirts when I was there from a fat man's store or something in phoenix
I was pretty happy with that, you know
And I go down there the thursday night
And jesus christ I get off stage and remember the green room was upstairs
Yeah upstairs way deep
Deeply they had a fucking get a treasure map to find that fucking way way way at the end of the way at the end of the map
I'm sitting there waiting for the headline because you can walk out and watch the headline
Yeah, so at first when the waitresses were busy and we didn't want to go out there
So I would wait till like 20 minutes and then go out there and watch the headliner for a while
I hit boom boom boom boom one-man door
I opened the fucking door and that's a broad jack
At the club at the club at the door. I'm a feature actor on a thursday night
And this or it could have been friday
It could have been thursday or friday because I had to live there one another night and danny was mad
And they didn't know if I was fired and all this shit. So I'm the girl's talking to me
She's a little bit fucking drunk. She's talking about coke and her girlfriends and blah blah blah
And I go listen. Yeah, it had to be thursday because I go the show's gonna end and we could still go to a bar
So now it's
20 minutes from that situation happened the girl goes downstairs
Guess who comes up danny murr
And he wants to take me out. He wants to go party
And I'm like, I just told this fucking girl
They're young
They're young girls they
They were from jersey, you know, it was just there was some stupid connection
You know, and then like we want to go on we we got blow
Because I'm as I talked about coke on stage
So he's in there now telling me how we're gonna go to this place and the car is coming and they have a great fucking cocktail
But I'm like, I'm not up to all that shit. You want to take me to scotsdale
Like that's the big thing like go to scotsdale to be around yuppies. He's the night. That was the night for that
Take out laid to those the clubs with the lines and the short skirts and the boom the techno shit
So I look him right in the face and I go, hey man
I'm gonna go back to my hotel room
To the condo
I go, I'm really tired man
And he goes really I go, yeah
I go home here a couple nights. I'll go out with you
And he goes, okay
And guess what happens one
I open up the door and now the girls up there with three other broads
Tits out of this shirt banging two of them are married and they want to do powder
And they're like looking at me and I'm like, and they're like, we're still going out. Let's go. We got a car
Let's go. We already called we got Julio waiting for us at the bar right around the corner. Yeah, I don't know what his name
No, there was Julio's it was a main kitchen guy. It was a two
It was two blocks away from that improv. There was like a little bar
and
Now I got Dan there. I just lied to fucking Dan my boss
That I was going home to sleep. So I get myself out of it. I go, you know what I was going to go home to sleep
You know what?
Fuck it. Let's all go out. I go, Dan, you want to go out with us?
He goes, well, I got these people wait. I go, Dan, one of them is my cousin. I forgot all about it, Dan
I'm gonna have to go out with them
And he goes, well, fuck it. Then I'll go out with you
I mean, he was that much of a child. He was 10 years older than I was
And he wanted to go hang out with these fucking girls if I was 30 something these girls are 28
I was maybe 38. This is how long ago this was. This is 16 fucking years ago. I'm 50 fucking three
So I was 37 these girls like 20 30 and fucking Dan's 50 fucking something as old
Looking like bozo with his hair. He's bald. He won't shave the whole thing
He's got these curly things looking like Kleinfeld from fucking Carlitos way
These girls are looking at him like you got to bring him with us
And I'm like, listen, I don't fucking know the headline is still at a half hour
So I go, Dan, why don't you go downstairs? Let me finish what I'm doing here and we'll all meet
So Dan's downstairs trying to be fancy with the four girls telling him he owns the club
He'd get them deals to go to a room. I'm getting sick to my fucking stomach
I look at the chick that's got the blog. Are you want to do some fucking about
I go because the girl's bathroom was upstairs. There was one downstairs, but there was one upstairs
But there was a line remember there used to be a line. I go go upstairs to a girl's bathroom
And go right to the fucking green room
And she goes to the green room, I give it two minutes
I run upstairs to the green room. I get upstairs to the fucking green room. We're doing fucking bumps
We're doing bumps. She's putting fucking coke on her tits. I'm snorting the coke off her tits like commandos style
The nipple's still in the shirt. I'm just snorting it up here. I didn't give a fuck what she did
I just wanted to snort coke. I didn't want to fuck her or not like that
Well, I did that that wasn't the point then she finally popped one of those jugs out
I'm sucking on him putting coke on it. She's got a bag of fucking coke
I mean this bitch had you know, maybe eight grams of coke and she's throwing coke on a tip like fucking uh
What's his name and uh in uh in the fucking uh, what's the movie with jack Nicholson and boston when he's the mob boss
The part at least throwing cocaine at him. She's throwing. I mean this chick was crazy. I'm sucking her titties
I'm fingering or the whole thing. I'm on time. I got her in the mountain position
I mean this is terrible. This one blow. I got coke all over my face now
This office lee is the size of this fucking table
Or lee this office is the size of this table. Well, guess what happens
Danny walks in. Oh, no. Oh, fuck. And you know how that goes now with him
He couldn't just walk out and go downstairs
He embarrasses the girl
He says that this isn't this type of club
That when he brought me in he had he would fire me, but he likes me personally
So the rest of the weekend i'm on probation
That he might find me i'm listening to this shit going what type of guy would give me this fucking?
He had beaten
Only somebody who doesn't like somebody having fun a real guy would lock the door and go the next day go that was crazy
What the fuck were you doing up there joey, you know, whatever
He just embarrassed me and embarrassed the girl blew the whole fucking night
I do the rest of the weekend. I go back. I call him and i'm hearing rumors from people
You're banned because he caught you sleeping with somebody and if I was asleep with it
I had was fingering. I was sucking the tits and we're doing blow. It was nothing going on
There's nothing going on. That's the first base where I come from
The fuck kind of people nice to meet you
So that was it. I was banned. I wasn't really banned. He was just mad at me
You know why he's he's not mad because you did because you're doing that in the office
He's mad because he wasn't including like he would have said hey, man. I got this chick this broad
She's gonna blow her buddy
And she's got coke throwing her titties when I went upstairs. I didn't think that was a thing. I just wanted to do blow
In those days, I probably had a little blow in my pocket
But if she was offering I was snorting because it was fucking not arizona coke
I was right there and just came over the border
It just got off the mule
You know what I'm saying the mexican just dropped it off in the mule right down the corner there in tusan
It's still in the saddle. It's still in the saddle back. You know, I would get coked down there
That was and everybody was doing coke
I remember I remember taking joe rogan joe rogan taking me to a club one night
And look at that joe's face after an hour. He had gone to the bathroom twice
And he's like everybody in this fucking town does cocaine
And i'm sitting there with him sober as a judge going
I know I would be doing it too, but you sit the cross on me you fuck
I'd be in that bathroom vacuuming it up with those savages
He took me to another party one time uh the porno girl before she married tito or t
Yeah, jenna jamison. She's coming to the club all the time. She's coming to the improv all the time
And I went to her house one time and I got to tell you something, you know, I'm a dirty guy
You hear me talking
Her house was beautiful like she had a gorgeous home with the original husband. Yeah
It was just filled with disgust you could smirk you could smell the sperm particles floating in the air
Oh, come on. It was just I went there for a party
I went there for a party
And everybody's doing blow and me and joe trying to be cool and I can't take it no more
This girl finally takes me to room and was snorting coke and when I come on joe was there
And joe saw it. I felt fucking terrible, but joe this is what these parties are about
And there was some chick sucking her own tits, you know, it was just a crazy this type of house
It was a porno house. It ain't my type of house. That was what's her name's house. Yeah, she would go to the improv a lot
Yeah, she's coming a lot. I just thought she would just go to the seat joe rogan stuff
Yeah, she and she always came in for joe, but like we'd see her in there once a while
I want to say this was the tito days, but at that time I didn't know
No was way before that, right? Okay. She had the original husband. Yeah, because this is like the
You know 2002 2001 2002 2003
Yeah, I don't remember who she but yeah, she used to come in and then the other guy nils lofgren
Yes to come in a lot. Yeah, he was friends with uh with dan love dan dan make sure you send him a lot of food
It was it was the big stress night when I didn't nils lofgren's here
It was like a big fucking deal, you know, everything shuts down. Everyone's on military rules
You know, it was crazy. I hated bosses like that in those places
Oh, what dan was a celebrity. He was a celebrity guy. He made sure that he loved all that shit
He was like then schindler's list when the guy said hey, send the nazis another extra bottle of champagne
Like he was that guy exactly that guy. Oh, fuck. Yeah, he did he did some stuff it
I hated I look back now and I go all right. I kind of get that that was brilliant
It was he he was mean and brilliant and here's what I mean
He he used to hire people he put an ad in the paper and he'd say come tomorrow come monday
Between one and five all these people say hundred people show up
Sometimes more than that hundred people show up on monday and they're waiting they wait there from one to five
and uh
Someone calls at 130 comes out. Hey. Hey guys. Uh, just shouldn't dan is on his way
So please hang tight and so he'd call in and just sound keep keep him waiting keep wait
He keep him at five o'clock. He's still not there
And I'll come back tomorrow. They have an employee come out
Next day
Same thing happens
Now it's 60 people shoot you like fight club
What it's like fight club you have to stand on the he made people wait and then they come tuesday
And he every hour someone comes. Hey, he's gonna be here soon. He never shows up
They do it again wednesday and then thursday and here's what happens. It starts with 100 next day. It's 60
Then it's 40 then it's 20 then it's 10 the the last 10 people to show up. He hires all 10
I
Hated that but then I look back ago that fucking guy
He wanted the people that wanted the job really fucking bad because he knew that those are good employees. It's pretty fucking smart
It took me a long time to figure out that's what he's doing
I get but for a whole week and like no, it's he ruined people's lives for a fucking week
He made him wait and it was for like a like a server job or like a doorman job for a server job door
Yeah, the whole fucking thing. Oh my god. Yeah
No, it's kind of fucking crazy. That's too much. Yeah, that's
I've heard of things like
They'll reschedule a couple times on you
Just to see if you if you make it like but I like
To be honest, I wouldn't have gotten a job there
I I would yeah, no all the left after the first day. Yeah, no me too. I left after the first day
That's just embarrassing that you wait four hours and that's just so now you broke up with dan
You and dan go fuck it and you came to la you yeah with dan
Yeah, I was worried about it. I like it was he's kind of what drove me like I was so frustrated with
He was such a tyrant
It kind of made me move to la kind of got made me go. I gotta get the fuck out
So like it was like 2003 I moved out
And what you doing 2003 you were doing stand up. I was doing stand up and that yeah, that's what and that
That's what I thought I wanted to do when I came out here and then
I uh
I somebody had to have me tape something. I got a video camera. I started making a little short films and stuff like that
I got I got real I loved
I love making things and you can call producing which that's what's called
But we just think like it's not just about making stuff
Like we all have our thing that we're making you're making you're making brilliant stuff on stage connecting with an audience
And making people feel like life is fucking normal in america when there's all this pc shit like you're giving that to people
It's all about what do you make and I I liked making things that other people could could join in on like get
I want to get my friends together. We're gonna make this move. We're gonna do this thing
I like that shit. So that's what drove me into all of it, you know
And you created set list. Yeah, what is the whole purpose of set list tell the people at home if they don't know
It's a improvised stand-up show where uh, you walk on stage instead of
Doing any material you've ever done you get a set list of really strange
Sometimes nonsense fucked up topics you get them in the moment
And then you act like that's the act you've been doing on the road for 10 years
But they flipped the the subjects at you know, yeah, you get like five different things that's what fucked my world out
That I thought the concept was brilliant
I just you did the show
And and you were amazing and first of all, here's you know what happened the night
We did a seven o'clock and a nine o'clock and if you've ever done those the seven o'clock is always shit
Because the audience is it's seven is daylight out
Every time we did the early taping for all those every day
We did early the audience was terrible and the comics left going man
I just didn't feel like I really got them and in the late show is fucking incredible
Do you still do the set list there? Yeah, so well, we still do it there
And then it became a tv show in the uk and and australia and then we
Been touring around a bunch of different places. So you were saying chile and adam barrow
Argentina and we adam barrow and it's it's regular australia. So it's all over the place
But it's a it's a sort of a thing designed to get people out of their orbit like
we all have a routine and
And uh that those butterflies and that adrenaline all that like, you know those times where you're on stage
You don't have that like and it's it's like you're going through the routine and the audience is loving it
But then you leave stage and you're like, I don't know if I I don't have that
Like I just fucking wheeled out a safe feeling, you know
And set list kind of guarantees that you're going to feel that because it triggers that adrenaline because you're
You're out of control. You have no control of what's happening and you have to you're getting stuff thrown at you
It's like the beginning of that kung fu. It is like kung fu in the beginning in 2008 when I first got off cocaine
My mind started going through different directions and I was like, you know what?
In 10 years the stand-up shit's gonna be boring
I love when I got a call from a comic
Who's put a new pitch together for a stand-up show?
In those days, I used to get them once a fucking month and some goofy motherfucker
That wants me to meet him somewhere to put
You know something together
for a typical
Three of us are gonna go on stage and then I'm gonna host and there's gonna be strippers, you know
Three of us are gonna go on stage and there's gonna be people with drums or people playing the saxophone behind you mean
There was a thousand concepts, but they all
Went back to just doing stand-up. Yeah, and I fucking was getting sick of it. I go something has to change
Something has to fucking change
And people were trying little things
I can't you contacted me. I went down
I was still in a fucking comatose stage when I went down it and I wasn't really feeling it that night
But when I left there, I remember going Jesus Christ somebody is thinking like I'm thinking
That this could go into so many fucking directions to stand up instead of the this is a tv show
I can't believe yeah, well that's thanks to paul provenza. I mean, yeah, he's he you know
He's he's fucking incredible with all the projects. He doesn't so he you know, we took it at him bro
It got picked up for a show. We did uh 14 episodes and it was you know, it was amazing
It was it was a complete blast. You know good for you. Yeah, it was great
and and you know
What what it did though is I like we we did the uh melbourne festival
And I had a guy come up after the show and he goes
Hey, I want he goes because it was showing there when it a reruns and like it was it's still going in Australia
It's ridiculous
This guy he goes he goes I came in because my kid he's in the sixth grade
He started a setlist club at his school. I was like I was complete like like my life changed that that was the moment I went
Oh my god, that's incredible. He started a setlist club at school
So I think what that's gonna do for those kids like they're gonna get to feel like to to learn that
When you get thrown into a situation into that pit where you're afraid and you confront every demon. It's just like this thing
You can just do that and not be afraid and get used to like you said like you got addicted to that
It's the same fucking thing, right?
It's getting addicted to that adrenaline but finding a new way to get the way to get to it
Monday night. I did something that was the most interesting thing I've done in a while
I didn't want to do it
It was in my realm. I'm not gonna lie to anybody, but I did not want to do it
Well, he caught me at a weird time in my life and I said sure
And for three weeks I sat in my fucking office sweating it
And I just started getting ready last week. I agreed to do the goddamn comedy jam
Oh, wow, that's the greatest show with the with fuck off from baltimore
And I love him. I know him a long time. You know, what's his name? Josh Adam? Oh, yeah, Josh. I'm ours. Yeah
He's doing I got there with lee. I gotta be honest. I didn't know what to expect
You know, put it on for me. I have it if you want
Yeah, put it on from see if he's got it. You have it on your phone. I have it on my computer
All right, then do it. Yeah, put it on for me. You could cut it up later and release it. What is this?
This is the goddamn comedy. Oh, I I've seen that show that is one of the best shows I went down and I looked around
He goes are you gonna sing a song? I said, yeah
I didn't get a chance to rehearse it. I was busy moving last monday. So
I love that you did this. I couldn't go down there and uh
I
Went down and I gotta tell you something. I was so blown away. You want to talk about fucking anxiety? Oh, yeah
I want I've never I haven't seen it. I saw what adam posted
I got a dose of anxiety handed to me
And I felt it as soon as they said my name. I heard the music
I walked up to the stage
And I didn't focus on josh adam meyes. I focused on the drummer
For some reason something just said joey. Don't do it. And I focused on the drummer focused on the drummer
Put it playedly
Focused on the drummer focused on the drum until I finally
Turned and when I turn
Troy Conrad
reality at its finest
Oh, man, I love that you did this joey. So there's this big crowd the band
I think all these episodes of this show can be I don't know if this one's on comedy central
but
You can watch them on comedy central joey's out there dancing. This is unbelievable. They can see it. Everyone can see this. Yeah, okay
Oh
My god, this is unbelievable
Joey looks like he's always been a rock star
Holy shit
Oh
Joey's absorbing all that energy and putting it all out
Yeah, right I have anxiety
To the gills. I can't breathe
I'm just playing it right there. I'm just trying to really be cool. You came out. See right there. You look like you're in the zone
Oh, look now you're okay. I'm trying to get my head together. That's why
Oh, oh now you're back
Sure, I came back. I had no fucking choice amazing
Oh
Holy shit
Please do this every week joey
Oh
You know the balls just took them to do this guys
I was sweating at the last day
You want to run out of there while you're waiting?
Like just like maybe something maybe the stage will collapse
No, I just sat there with Lee like a moron drinking beer
Unbelievable
Lee's having a good time. He knows I'm sitting in pain
Oh
Look at Josh. He had a mind. He's such a fit. Oh, man. He is unbelievable
I'm so crazy I've ever seen
I didn't see the Mexican food behind me. Look how lit up the audience is
Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah, the guy behind you
Oh my god, he's the guy from the movie with Denzel Washington, right? Yeah
Joey you're a monster up there. We definitely have to see the monster at the end of the vest
Oh my god, only Lee would take this so far as me
Please tell me joey you're gonna be doing this again
I don't know what song I could do
This is easy
Ah
All right, Lee released this to the realm like that just fix it up nice. Put it up nice make a video. What an academy award
Oh my god
Joey is beautiful. It was a lot of fun, man
There's Jeremiah Watkins
Fucking Lee
I'm so happy. Jesus Christ. There's a tape there. We're gonna suck my dick. Oh, let me give some shout out
My main man ollie bars up there starting jujitsu
Dante gazini. Thank you for the cd cox after
Johnny cutler
Up there arse warrior
Danny staples
Ashman tv
One by one podcast my main man
Mikey climb, but he's not jewish
And hero jr. Which I miss completely. They were at the vibe. See I had my dates all fucked up
I thought they were coming into 29th
So I took a sunday at the comedy store last sunday
I was gonna go from there to the viper room and surprised them. They weren't there. They were there the 31st, which was wednesday
So what happened was
Wednesday, I had to get up at the ice house
I didn't get out of there till 11 o'clock. So I never got to see hero junior
But I heard they're ripping up the fuck I heard they ripped up the fucking viper room
9-1-1 had to come people were jumping up and down jews on fire the whole thing
The whole fucking thing
So now you're in LA you do the set list
Yeah, can I ask you something though? Because because I really do hope I would love to see you do
I know you don't do those specialty shows you you like you're like doing the real shit and
But this like this worked so good for you like this was unbelievable because it was only four sentences
That I had to repeat four eight or 12 times. I just took the notes from imdb.com, right?
Oh, but you know that the last line fuck you. I won't do it to tell me they wrote that for me
That's the thing my mom told me since day one. So I came out and just flowed organically
Suck my dick all that stuff motherfucker that comes out again. I picked the best song for myself
Yeah, this was it. This was like so now I got to pick another one. I don't know what to pick now
I gotta fucking think about it. Alonzo both did fight the power
I gotta I gotta do stuff to rattle up the crowd. I gotta let them leave there going. Jesus fucking correct
Could you do an acdc?
now really
I feel like you could do it
I could do an acdc my favorite acdc aren't the shit that most radio people listen to
I was a back and black guy
But when I think acdc now I like power rage
I'm a real big high with a hell guy. Oh, yeah, like that. Oh, yeah, listen
Night prowler
Is a great song. I can't hold it up
Walk all over you. I would fuck your world up. That would that would give me a heart attack on stage
Why because it'd be too guitar dueling and shit if I could get a really good guitar player to do the goddamn
You gotta do a sing it. Yeah, that would be unbeaten. I mean that's
Sing it slow take it over. Oh, I love all that shit. I love when
People listen, I don't give a fuck if you
Do somebody's song
But if you do it do it do me a favor
Put your flavor on to it show me why you did
If you're gonna, you know, if you're gonna do the mechanic over
Show me why your version is better than his charles brunson
That's all I want you to do if you're gonna have the balls to do my song over
Show me why you were doing it over. Yeah
Zeppelin stole your song. You know why he stole it because you're a sleeping pill
That's why Led Zeppelin. I heard that stay with the hell
That was stay with the hell because it was so fucking bad
You know who heard that song you sang nobody three people on an acid trip and Malibu
That's it Zeppelin heard and said this guy's retarded watch this
Bam let that motherfucker up on fire that became what it was. That's why the jury said, what are you fucking kidding me?
This was a and b. This song put you to sleep. That's why harry christin has got to guess. This is how bad your music is
Absolutely gotta make it your own
So that's the problem there. So yeah
So you get to LA now you do the set list. It's doing well
You pick up a camera one day to fucking take pictures for the set list and wallop
Yeah, and then I got I just got super into photography man. I got I got into how long ago was this how many years?
Well set list has been six years. So that's when I first got it. But I'd say in the last like
Four or five years is when I just got
Obsessed I saw some pictures from Montreal with felicia you up there with oh, yeah. Yeah
Yeah, I love felicia
And she's she was doing amazing work up there too. She was doing pictures like we're both in that photography
It's the same, you know, I think it's it's so similar to comedy. It's all about lenses
It's all about how you see something a little bit different
And then photography and comedy are really similar that way, you know, like
We all have our own lens. That's what's really exciting
Photographer goes, oh my god, you know, you can do with this lens
You can practically see in the fucking dark and everything on the back glows
When you're going in and talking about something on stage
Nobody else can do when you have a point of view like you're the ultimate example of like a real point of view in fucking comedy
Nobody can ever like copy that because it would look so everyone go. Oh, yeah, I know exactly who that is
Like that's so simple to recognize because you you have that about you. It's the same thing with with cameras
You know, you make me look handsome
Your pictures I got three I got two my daughter carries one of the pictures
That's not even frame. That's Lee. She walks around with the one picture you took. Oh, oh, that's cool
Yeah, so she likes your stuff. I got the other one that you mailed this
Yeah, so for everyone who does no choice the one who does all all the really cool black
Design the front up the new hall of fame for pictures you designed. Well, yeah, that's always the hall series
But it's it's on permanent exhibit in the lobby of the main room at the comedy store
So there's about 80 comics Joey. You were the first person I photographed
Thank you because nobody ever thinks of me and that's what I'm saying like
this time
dog
I kept a joke
because of you
I kept a joke that I fucking thought was disgusting as I was saying it
But it worked for the moment where I
Wiped through, you know, sometimes I paint myself into a wall at the store
And I know how to get myself out of it because it's the fucking original room. I fucking hate the main room
I hate the main room. I go to the main room. I go to there like those people and gladiator. I know
I got a 40% chance of dying, but it's higher than that. Yeah
Because I lose my confidence right in the middle of it. I go, why am I here?
Why the fuck am I in the main room? I'm an original. I am
You connect with people you like being in the trenches
I'm a dog from the original room when I walked into the original room
I knew it was going to be my home when I walked into seattle underground when I saw those water bugs
I go, this is this is it. This is it. This is what I want
This these new clubs that are opening and they're fancy schmancy
That's not stand the red tablecloth. I can't wait till somebody goes. You know what?
I'm opening up a comedy club and I want the people to smoke. I don't care if the place burns down
That's okay. You know how many people would hang out and they could smokely and put their feet up and watch three or four comics do 45
A lot a lot get really good food. Yeah. Yes a steak
Finger food not even a steak like, you know
clams and zucchini sticks and
Pizza pizza. No, no pizza
We went and got pizza the other day and you know, where's you get and it wasn't bad
But again, like I tell Lee and Lee's learning if I'm going to eat garbage. I want it to be memorable garbage
I went last night and I had one of the best meals I've ever had
I wanted to thank Lee last night. I went to a place that he turned me on to that
Every night to go into pit fire. What nah, he turned me on to that mexican place on more park
We didn't eat dinner. So I called my wife on the way back from the store. I go. I'm gonna go get tacos
She goes bring me to
I got two carnitas tacos with avocado and cheese cactus cactus
Those motherfuckers take it to the hoop right down more park. So if I'm gonna cheat, I'm not gonna cheat big
I'm just gonna get two tacos. I didn't get the rice. I didn't get the dulce de leche
I drank water when I got home with two fucking tacos. That was my dinner. Basically my point being that
The other day the baby likes pizza
I like pizza
Lee likes pizza last week me and Lee struck the cord with pizza in holly. We went to joe's pizza on the way up the hill
Delicious, it's great pizza. They make it perfect. Nice to chin. We couldn't finish it. We weren't even hungry
We still got a slice in three quarters. We ate we threw it away
Now that put the flavor I grew up on pizza. I grew up on a slice a day
A slight listen most societies an apple a day keeps the doctor away
Well, I grew up a a slice a day keeps everything away
Vd, gonorrhea the fucking mumps just cheese too just cheese. That's it. All you need. It's a tune up
I don't have a tune up here. You know the tune up is a two o'clock slice
with a diet coke
That's a tune up. And it's if it's lent maybe a white pie with some muscles with marinara on it stop
Good tune up
So, yeah, you won't like these fucking premier photographers now in comedy. Well, yeah, I love doing it man
I love getting stuff. It's just it's an obsession, you know
Last night I look up and I see you there and for two seconds I can pistol off. Oh, yeah, I see you
I I saw you there and I got pissed off for two seconds. I go, what's your camera?
Well last night I was like, that's it. Oh, that's right when most people do it. I kind of go
Well, no that now last night I was there and I was helping brenton who's the
Is a great comic and also handles the social media for for the comic store
He uh, I was helping him set up his camera because he's got this great new camera
So I I help him do the settings so he can get right so we were I was just kind of playing around with his camera
So I got some shots of you and I I know he took some great ones. So
He was uh, I just showed him stuff off. I by the way
I love seeing what happens when people figure out how to use like a you know DSO. They don't mean anything
It's just a it's like really a confusing ball. Like I don't need this shit
I got a phone that takes good picture when you start learning how to use that stuff and the like the cool shit that you can do
He he lit up. He was so excited. He was like starts playing with stuff. It was great. I love that
You know, I'm sorry. I go I get crazy. You're a gadgetty guy. Well, yeah, I do like
No, no, I don't
I had a friend that I used to fucking drive to california with
Every 90 days from seattle. I love him dealing with the funniest guys in my mental. I learned a lot from him about manhood from
He was a lot older than I was. He was black. I loved him
but he was a photographer and
This I used he used to call me the he would let me get under his skin
So when you let me get under your skin, guess what I do in the loving way I get under your skin
So he would show me his pictures and what he would basically do is take a camera from 1950 a box camera
And when he go on the road he go to rural roads
and he take these gorgeous pictures of uh
Broken down cars and broken down tractors with a pig next to it
And they were beautiful pictures, but then he'd do something I didn't like he'd fill him in with like a stencil
To give it that 3d look and he killed the pictures his pictures were beautiful
When you look at his pictures, he always picks something up. That was just wild. He never
Picked the chicken up and put it there or put a leaf there
He always caught that third thing. Yeah, but I think that's important in photography. I look at pictures. He catches that third angle
Yeah, and I don't even know if it exists. It's something I see in my world. I've always called it third
Yeah, it's kind of like an extra dimension. I know what you mean
Like it's something extra about that picture. You can't always describe it big you go
Hi, it's just I fucking like that
and that as a former like film student who like
In those classes people would make make make movies. I don't like all the films
And they're gonna make this black and white for like artistic. Yeah reasons like oh, it's it's very artistic
I don't feel like you're doing it for that reason. I feel like
I mean, I feel like it definitely is artistic
But I don't feel like you're doing to be like
Really like fancy or some things just seem contrived. Yeah, you see them coming. That's true when I see it coming
It pisses me off as a professional. Yeah
Uh contrived contrived scripted
Totally Lee and I did uh something one night a podcast and we had a comic go on there
and every response
was scripted
Oh
It was horrendous. No, so let's say I would ask you about
Yeah, go ahead and ask me. I'll do a scripted response. No, so I would say so anything about photography and he'd go
Photography is great, uh
But I went to see my doctor. He just go in. Oh, no any minute monologue and me and lee will like oh, no
It's called the Byron Allen
And that's called I call it the Byron Allen. Oh, Jesus Christ
Like when you do that rehearsal you go right you start with something and you go right in there like it sounds very memorized right now
The people don't know what we're talking about at home a lot of times not anymore
Yeah, I'd stopped about 10 years ago for me
But before that there was a lot of places you go in
And they need to make you do two things a write down your lead ins to jokes
Oh
And it was horrifying
They had wait they had you write down your lead ins. I understand. It's okay. So
So if you had a joke about clouds, let's say I'm doing a joke about doing coke with the cats
Okay, or that let's say so I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I go
Let's talk about my cats
And let's talk about uh sleep apnea
Okay, and they go that's okay, and he'd go uh, you could still get it, but we don't need it right now and he'd go
so uh this weekend we have a
A very funny guy here at the fucking copper kettle, you know, because there's a I would always play those sea rooms
And then the guy went, you know
Joey Cucco Diaz
Very interesting
We also have the Green Bay Packers are in town and they would go like well and also
So Joey, what do you think about cats and it would sound?
Horrific
Because nobody was talking about fucking cats stupid. In fact, we weren't even talking about anything remotely close to pumpkin cats
fucking moron
You know, it was shit like that when you watch Byron Allen on the sports show at 1 a.m. That comes on at 2 a.m
There's a reason why they put it on at 2 a.m. It's because of his segues
I understand
I understand comics need money and comics need stage time in a forum
But I couldn't amount like I had one of the worst club owners go off on me one time about that
So I didn't talk about what I gave the guy the guy goes the guy was throwing you your material
You weren't doing it. I go because my fucking material is dirty
I thought I was going to need to talk and tell him about myself and sell myself. That's how you sell tickets
No, we here at this club. We want you to do material on the rate. It was fucking horribly
That's a Byron Allen Lee. It's the most unorganic thing you've ever seen in your life
So how long have you been taking pictures for?
well, uh
I mean, it's been six or seven years. Yeah, yeah about six seven years, but yeah the last like the last four
So what happened the last time you photographed sheep?
And you're like, I would uh, I think I hate sheep. I went to war. I went to anybody here from
That's how he would throw it in me
If you watch tonight stay up Monday night and watch whatever the show it's called
Byron Allen
So they would they would take the thing you say how long four to five years and the person will go
Yes, I yeah, it's four or five years and uh, which reminds me my mother-in-law. She's you know, she's always doing
Like and so is that how they do it? They're like doing the weird segues when you have a
inexperienced emcee or an inexperienced dj, whatever they want to call themselves
Didn't have the stage time
They're not really they're not really wordsmiths
You follow me, you know, I'm not a wordsmith
But I learned how to put words in certain places Lee telling me you the other night Lee goes
You had a good set but you said retard a couple times too many
That's a wordsmith
That's somebody who goes and listens to that tape and he goes you were right
In fact, there I should use uh emotionally challenge
There I should use mentally challenge you follow me. That's a wordsmith. So you don't say it twice
Why would I say fuck on this joke where it really hits on this joke?
I'll say something different on this joke
You know, if you work with some comedy writers like willie bar center
Yeah, I love will you'll die
Because he breaks it down to the T. Yeah, so you're ending about a musical album
And then he'll put a word at the end of that bit to make it go in so when you shoot your special
You have six things to hit no come to you
He's telling me here on the show last week how he goes by feeling just like actors
He's not he doesn't want you to recite the material
He wants you to remember the feelings you have when you say those material Jesus Christ
Yeah, that makes sense. That's it. And I thought about it
I went up there and did sets with him Friday night. My first set was horrendous horrendously bad
I got people to laugh, but I knew it wasn't what I wanted to do my second set because I thought about what he said
I want you to put yourself there and I want you to do 20 minutes on whatever you go
And it was perfect. I haven't listened to the tape. We're gonna meet tomorrow to listen to the tape
He's got notes the whole fuck. So you're going all you're going by feeling as you're going through it
Why not the times I do better is when I go to the calm
Listen when you go to the calm you're storing you're sitting in the back and you got to follow fucking
Uh, what's his name that I told you was there last night from America's funniest comics
The good-looking kid. I forgot the blonde kid and rogan and red fit Simmons and all of a sudden you got to go up there
You got to outdo these guys
So
Sometimes I trick him with energy
It's that anger mixed with energy that really gets their attention gets them fucking hop in their chairs
That's what gets people. But boom that that's what I got to take him for the special
I love I love watching you walk on the problem is right. It's it's taken nobody's gonna do it for 50 60 minutes
Yeah, so I got to find a strategy just like Conor McGregor did against Diaz
You follow me back for eight take him in for 12
fucking throw
A rant at him rightly
Pull it back for eight take him into
Something else and then close on a fucking rant that gets everybody's head going up
And that's it. That's the strategy that you go into these specials. I never went into anything like this
Well, because you like being organized and you in theory could organize your special by the minute
Oh, yeah, no, no, Lee. I could organize all that stuff. It requires something
That I've never put into comedy work
Work
You mean the sit you sit you don't want to sit down and I've always been a very lazy comedian
And that's why I got lazy results from 15 to 16 years
It wasn't until I put a little extra effort in
And now what I'm doing with willy
Really, you know when you work with these guys at a wordsmith
You just it's not that they give you jokes. It's that they teach you how to come up with more jokes for that topic
Before willy give will you do an animal special and talk about two things and you're like, wow
He beat that
28 minutes a piece. Yeah, he beat those fucking jokes. You know, it's going on there. There's there's noises up above
Yeah, yeah, that just sounds like somebody walking or a water tank possibly breaking
It was definitely the water tank
Salute cuck suckers. How you like me now?
We gotta wake this podcast up. See that's how you restore energy. There you go
You got an energy bag and give a little bomb on people they come back. They come back with laughs
Right now Lisa things out of your tank. He can't wait to see what my ass
I'm just
Breathing in through my mouth and out through my nose
You're doing the opposite believes
I'm doing and I believe
Oh my god
I just all I had to do is bring the candle a little closer
Yeah, you burned it off for a guy to me. No, you brought the candle and closed and it smelled good
So I wanted to breathe in with my nose
Oh my god, I'm happy you came on joy kind of ran
I'm honored you had me. Oh, I can love you guys the joke when the
The joke that you said to me that one night that I had forgotten I said it
I had I was just on a fucking energy tear up on stage. It was a thursday and tuesday night
And lee was there and I don't know what made me say I said I walked into that room and all that was the blood and
Feathers
You haven't been doing that. No, I forgot. Oh my god, man. I think I did it on the last cd
Oh
Check I mean the visuals like you're you're a painter up there
So you're you're painting this picture for everybody and it's amazing
But you can see the reaction of people like when you paint something that visual everyone gets it's in their body
Like they jump and they it's so great to see that
And you you do that all the time
So i'm glad that that helped because I oh when I watch you afterwards
I got your your your bits are floating on my head like i'm laughing all night because like I can't get that picture
When you said it back to me, I couldn't even walk to the car. I was laughing so hard
That's amazing because I didn't didn't feel what I said when I
Came out but it was true is blood and feathers and you said it to me when you go
Blood and feathers really joey and I was like
Oh my god, that's terrible. I forgot all about that. I go
I go it's so bad. I go. It's such a bad joke. It's fucking good
I'm laughing my ass all to the car and that's what you know, you're a thing
Listen that
There's nothing
It doesn't bother me, but I can't figure out why people do it
What's that
What happened today today? I was in jitsu. I'm sitting there. I'm breathing. I take my gi off
I'm about to take my fucking pants off and my knee pads
And I look up and this kid looks over and he walks over and he goes. Hey, man
I just want to thank you for the podcast blah blah blah blah
I was lead the one, you know
There's people that talk to me
And I could tell that if they listen to the podcast one time
Or if they listen to the podcast. It's so weird. Yeah. Yeah, I could
They come up to you differently. Yeah, some guy came up to me at the ice house the other night. I was leading with that Mexican chick, bro
She's smacking him around. Yeah, bro, and we were laughing our asses off
That's amazing. I'm up bro. My friend. He dates a little chubby jewish guy too, bro. She fucks him up, bro
We were dying. I was at the ice house dying. Oh my god
You know when people know that much about your personal life
Oh, yeah, they know everything they're involved and you always come up to me
I mean that episode you did with that guy and sometimes you're the one that says you're I'm behind two episodes
But I did listen to the Rudy saw it and I'm like this guy's really listening to it
And sometimes you don't think you're doing a good job or sometimes me and Lee come in here
Listen, not all the podcasts could be knowledgeable. Not all of them can be very funny
There's some podcasts that you do in here, but sometimes there's always a message with the podcast
So you at least get that that's the most important thing and today's
It's a and I gotta tell you something because you were talking about
I've been here for 20 years next year
And I've seen people come and go and I've seen people come and go for the worst excuses in the fucking world
And I always look at myself. I lived in a car. I took showers in the main room. You do know that, right?
Oh, I didn't I used to go there at fucking 8 30 before the show started at nine
I'd run back there with a black bag
And just shower wash my balls powder myself
Put gel in my hair take a shit
They had the great bathroom in the back right behind the main the whole time you're washing you're scared because a ghost has got a
Fuck you in the ass
You have no fucking idea when you're taking a shower at the Cannabis. I did that every night like
You had to go in there on the dot because I had to be out of there by the time the main room started
And there was always the black night on tuesday nights
You had something in there on wednesdays. You had something there fridays and saturdays
So I had to look at the schedule a lot of time before I went up there
Sometimes I go up to 8 30 and take a shower for an hour
And take my time and sing in the shower. It was amazing
I think back at those times I took showers at the Cannabis store
In the daytime we're taking my josh wolf's house in the morning
But at night is the girlfriend would be there the kids
I couldn't take a shower now. So I'd go over to the Cannabis store and just stay there the rest of the night
But my point being that
There was a generation of comics I came up with
That came out here and I saw them leave one by one and each of them had an excuse
Until this day I like them whatever if I see him I give them a hug
But it's like I lost respect for it for them. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah
You you didn't like doing comedy like we were talking about mcbettencourt any more mccormie day
We had an hour conversation. Wow. He goes. I just don't let you know and it's not that you're quitting
It's that you took it out of your itinerary to do something else. Yeah
And that's a beautiful thing those guys that just quit now. They got it now
They're still doing comedy
In shitholes and they're saying that you have to be gay to live in LA
That they would do successful sucks dick. Oh, there's a thousand comics out there
That'll tell you that because they used to tell me to my face when I was a feature act
And I'd work those little b-rooms. They would tell me I used to I used to do spots at the lab factory
I wouldn't suck jamey's dick really jamey's gay
Stop he's 60. He just had a fucking kid
And he's gay because what are you that fucking magician get the fuck out of here
But you my friend got a lot of respect from me and uh
I think people needed to know about you. I think people I saw your Montreal pictures from felicia
I think you do great work. And like I said most people take a picture of me
I'm still a fat ugly dude when you take a picture of me. I see I see the third thing
I see that there. I see a little bit of character in your pictures
Yeah, well look it's taking a picture of you as you are and and it's also
I like to mix in who you are and who you want to be like that's kind of the the point and that's why those pictures
Those hallway pictures they're surrounded by all the headshots from all these comics and it's like
If you if you look at it this way
I look at it like those comics are propelling that person forward, you know
Like the next generation they're pushing them up the front lines at your turn, you know
and everybody that that performs in that original room they had to earn that shit to get there and uh
When they go on stage it is something special like they walk up knowing like hey, I'm a fucking paid regular
Like there's such a pride in that at the store. It's a really cool thing to see that and uh that
Everyone can count on that when you go there
You got you know people gonna not no one's gonna walk and go, huh?
Hold on. I gotta let me check my my clipboard and no, no, no
People are going up there and set themselves on fire, right? Hey, Doug one of the I'm a high school dropout. I'm a felon
I'm a divorcee. I got a kid. I don't talk to I got a new kid
I got a wife my got my life together
And I gotta tell you other things I don't have the one thing I do have is
That all these comics could suck my dick
Is that I'm a fucking mittie sure paid regular. I mean she made me that's in my world guys
That's like fucking carlo gambino putting you into the fucking
Into the gaudy family whatever that is a gambino crime family. There was no bullshit. There was no tape
There was no assistant
I went up there. I did three I came back the next week and did 10 and that bitch made me a regular
And knocked the air out of me and my life has changed
Ever since no matter how I feel about it no matter how she feels and she's Jewish
So you let you know my admiration me goes all the way back to fucking israel with these motherfuckers
Wasn't for a Jew. I wouldn't be here. You know I'm saying
For wasn't for a Jew at every angle. I wouldn't be a Jew wouldn't have killed Jesus
Jesus wouldn't have got a second fucking sequel if Jews
Well, you're gonna give me the paperwork you're gonna sit there like a dozen butts
Let's do this. I'll go a few months. How many more stars you want to eat tonight. We pick pick a number
17
These are a strong start. How many how many milligrams are in a star 125 these are you kidding me?
Yeah, you're going deep time for the murky waters of the underworld. Yeah
And we've had what each so I like uh, I'm uh the ultimate lightweight like I feel 10 like no problem
Oh, yeah, you're gonna feel this right up the back. So this is we're gonna end with eating two two more
So what is this 14 whatever who gives a fuck I would be high for a week with just taking the Popeye's chicken
So far
Who gives you 15 stars and takes you to Popeye's chicken not you me cock sucking because I love you
You never take me to Popeye's chicken. Well, I'm gonna take you tomorrow
Because I love you. You want another star? No, I got I still got a little bit of star left. You got the motorcycle. What do you got out there?
What's that? Oh, no, I got I got the whiz, but I look I can take an Uber if this thing kicks in like I think it might okay
Worst thing happens
Take a walk
Yeah
You'll be back
Take a walk on channel. Let's see what they should what's
Please make a noise like half my stomach is jello now from this fucking
What gives a lot of jello star? You like jello somebody sent me a tape. I gotta send it here on the show
Some I can't believe his name David
He sent the tape on the podcast with lee on the mushrooms
And he just took all the voices and just put all lee's sound effects
From that podcast on the fucking
35 minute
I love it. Was that online? Can we watch can we see?
Email me down the church podcast door. Oh my god
So I gotta try how to send it to my email and it was too big
So look at poor lee. Listen. He's playing the fucking trumpet over there. Let me tell you there was an episode where I
I've never laughed so hard at anything
I actually had to like edit a recording of it to listen to it a bunch of times where lee was so high
It was the night you guys were talking about
Uh, the the left turns were banned on hollywood because that cut out people from getting hookers
And and this was where lee lee was so high
This was the most beautiful moment and you're talking about you're like, yeah
They cut this off
So now you couldn't turn left and get a hooker and lee forgot that he didn't have anything at stake
Like he wasn't going to get hookers
So he was so high that he didn't realize that and he goes
Mother fuckers. He was so legitimately angry. I've never in my life laughed that hard
He was like mother fucker. Like it's the greatest X should be everybody's ringtone
Uh lee lee's a fucking bill. I love I love I love getting that high and and that's
It's and I get high envy out of you. Because I don't know how to get to that safely
Oh, well, it's taking years and years of training
Oh, he's a superstar
You know, you know what I'm the other day. I remembered something lee went to a jujitsu tournament
Lee gave him a chance. He went with a ripped gi. He had to roll up his pants because the gi was too long for him
Lee actually
You know, my agents always ask me when I put together like a web series and I'm like, listen
I have no web series for you. What I have is the educational lease. I had
That's all I have for you a kid that was a sweet kid. He believed in society
He believed in life. He thought everybody was nice and shit. And now
This guy had a vietnam vet that was a cleaning woman, you know
I mean, he had some guy from the war cleaning his house
This guy made a bed for a hookah one night. We told him the hookah was on his way up
And I go, it took you so long because I had to make the bed. Who makes the bed for the whole thing?
This is how nice
The unmade bed who gives a fuck
People are fucked in the back of a car. You know what I'm saying with with aids on the back seat
Yeah class you fucking big dummy, I'm gonna do it you you over there you coming in my thing you swap spit with
The shit
You filthy fucking animal that's how you get your resistance up to what
Say nothing happens to you
It's like a polio back. Yeah, it's like listen
You coming to prostitutes mountain you swaps me with a and calling like a dirty louis
Look at you go to miami and jump around for an hour. Those zika mosquitoes
We don't survive the dirty louis
Everybody survives a dirty little it's always gonna be collateral damage. You're fucking on cum mills it out
You know I'm saying it's like no if you've gone to the point of needing a dirty louis
You haven't had like a woman get come out of you for a while. So it's gonna be like a really like old one
So what is this? Japanese now? You thought why do you always have to turn something into dirty old?
You're the one who made it the dirty louis
I don't know what a dirty louis. I didn't know what a dirty louis, but I I mean, I
I mean, I sort of know now
Well, I'm happy that you know, I love it. Is that did you did you name it that or yeah?
It's a dirty louis. It's got a last guy in the wood. But it was Louie over on any second street park
He used to get hookers coming in my to make out with him and leave you where you always tell me how the sword throw
What do you think?
You're swapping spit with fucking hookers. They suck 18 dicks a week
And you want to go over there and fucking you tell me love them and
He's like no, I come in their mouth and I make out with them. Why would you do something like that?
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The ice and snow from the mid-nights and where the hearts go into the cold
The handle of the cold
We're driving our ships to new land
To fight in the hall
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The hounder I am from me
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The whispered tale of love
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