Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #433 - Rudy Sarzo
Episode Date: November 23, 2016Rudy Sarzo, Legendary Bass Player who has played with, among others, Black Sabbath, DIO, and Quiet Riot, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Hel...lotushy.com - Go to Hellotushy.com/church for 10% off of your order of portable devices that spray your butt with water.  Meundies.com Go to meundies.com/JOEY for 20% off of your first order and shipping is always free in the US and Canada.   Seeso: Seeso is the new ad free streaming service. Bingeable comedy. Anytime. Anywhere. Use code JOEY at checkout for 2 months free.  Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.  Recorded live on 11/22/2016. Â
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Did you guys speak Spanish because you know he was racing Mexico? Louis CK? Yeah, this is first first language Spanish. I
Didn't know that. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, I've been watching his show and
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Engines pumping and thumping in time the green light flashes the flags go up
Churning and burning they yearn for the cup. They definitely oh shit
And you thought you were doing a ride without your uncle Joey
No, happy Thanksgiving to you
Finish the flags at my little goomba and my main man Rudy saw his own studio
November the 22nd kick that muley
Take it out
Get get that
Oh
Shit, what's up? What was that? That's cool base for it. That's a old like a 10 12 15 years ago
What's the name of the band again cake cake cake and they have a
Couple great albums somebody left and there was a problem, but I went to see him with Felipe a couple years ago
Yeah, at one of these clubs on Sunset the big one that's the theater like and they were great. They were great
So what's up, Papa? Oh, just hanging happy Thanksgiving and you too. Happy sangy. We sang give it
Oh, yeah, thank you. Thank you. I thought about it. Yeah
Hey, you were telling the story here when you played the Palladium that night that you went from sleeping on the floor
To being at the plaza you shit. Yeah, because you know, you know
Sharon was not only the manager for the band, but she was tour managing and
And she had to stay and you know, I mean everybody stayed together
It wasn't like Ozzie and Sharon stated in some posh hotel and then the band stayed at the motel 6
No, everybody went wherever they went. We went we traveling the bus together everything. So matter of fact, I was staying with them
in Sharon's family's home in Benedict Canyon
So I while I was in the band
I was with them like 24 7 for like, you know from 1981 to the end of 82
you know, so
Getting to the story is, you know, we we we were gonna play the Palladium the following day. We just drove in
From I think we're in Bigam 10 or somewhere like that
About a couple hours away. We drove in tour bus. We got to the venue. I mean, we got to to the plaza and I
Got off the bus and you know, they I check in and the guy throws me a key
I went into my room and there was somebody asleep. So I went back down to
to the
To the guy and say hey, listen, I need another key. So he says, okay
He gives me the key I go up to the room and the room is a mess
The you know, yeah, the beds weren't made or anything. So we're back down again. I said, look, I have to get up early
We're doing a lot of press. We got the gig
We just finished doing a gig
I'm knackered. I'm tired. So he says, okay, I'm gonna give you this room, but you better check out
You know tomorrow and say, okay, I didn't care
So I just why follow we I went to the room and I realized I'm staying at one of the suites
They have like the special suites on each corner
So it's like, you know, you have like a quarter of the whole building, you know to you to yourself
And it was just this 1981. I don't know the things I've changed now
But that's the way it was back then and it was just I I couldn't go to sleep because here I am and I'm thinking wow
Maybe just one of these suites where the Beatles stayed when they came and playing at Sullivan
so I was like having all these
All these weird, you know thoughts and and I'm like rolling on the floor naked and shit, you know
And so I went to the bathroom and I sat in the toilet and realized that the toilet that my ass was facing
There was a big window. So my ass was facing the park, you know central park
Well, who could see you on the fucking 18 but yeah, it was like, you know, four o'clock in the morning
Yeah, by the time that I you know that I'm doing all this and it's like, yeah, I figure nobody's doing but it just it was
It was nuts because just a few weeks before that I was sleeping on the floor in Kevin the Bros apartment, you know
So this was like man, this is totally insanity Kevin was living here at the time. And yeah, it was a right of cold water on Riverside
Yeah
So how long have you been walking these valley fucking streets? Oh, man, the valley the valley, you know, now I love the valley
I I wouldn't want to live anywhere else but to be in the valley back in the 70s
It was kind of like excommunicated from from rock and roll because when I first got to LA in 76
76 70
77 I was living right off the strip right of a Holloway and we're Halloween sunset meet right there to say this is
just a little street right there palm and
Yeah, I was living there, so I would walk everywhere, you know across the street was Tower Records
And you have the old world and I was working in a place called make naturals, which was a fast food health food place
And we're making veggie burgers. I mean, I can make a kick-ass veggie burger, you know, I still remember how to make those and
And a couple of blocks, you know, what one block down was
I feel the McNasties, which now is the viper room. Yeah, and then another block is where you know, that's
Where you where where the the whiskey is and then beyond that, of course, you got gazaris and you got the Roxy and the rainbow and all that
So, you know, I was living in the heart of it. Now, what were you doing the daytime working and then that night you got all those clothes
Yeah, yeah, as a matter of fact
We put my hair in a ponytail sticking inside my shirt and
I would work at
McNaturals then they will give me the key and say, okay, you lock it up and you know mop up the floor and whatever
So the kids on the way to the whiskey to catch quite a riot. They will stop by order their burgers
They're smoothies yogurt, whatever I would take care of them
Then I will pack it up grab my base and walk all the way to the whiskey to do the gig
I'm very humbling experience now, okay, so you're in quiet, right?
What were the other bands in the neighborhood that you the bands like you was out from them everybody
Everybody that got signed in the 80s, man, you know, you had like Motley crew at the time. They were called London
it was Nikki's band London and you had like
like the boys which is basically
Uh
George Lynch was in the band and then you had docking like a version of docking running around. You had great white Cinderella
No, no, that's in there. So there was East Coast East Coast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so basically, you know
We're talking about the West Coast Sunset Strip scene, you know
Just just about everybody that got signed in the early 80s was still knocking around in the in the late 70s
Oh Van Halen already gotten signed there. They were already kicking ass out there
That were actually the last rock band to get signed out of the LA scene
Before they shut the doors and to rock and roll and start signing. That's right. That album was around from 78. Yeah
78 I'm thinking I'm thinking fucking toward it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, they did. Yeah, they were out before that. Yeah, they were signed
Yeah
So it was crew. Yeah
Quiet right. Well, it was it was called London London. Yeah. Yeah became the crew after that. Yeah
And then guns and roses came later. Yeah much later. Yeah, you know, I was I was I was I was doing a band with Tracy Gunn
So I was I was getting my education of what happened
around the early 80s because
Right now I'm talking late 70s
By 81 I was out of that scene even even though I started, you know
I came back to what is known as the metal health choir riot
I
Really didn't gig around town because I was playing with Ozzie. I went from Ozzie to that band
We made metal health the record and then we won on tour
So it wasn't like I was a all again, you know beating beating the you know, the sidewalks
You know going from the whiskey to the gazaris and the rocks, you know that no, I didn't do that
We released the record on that same week in March of 1983
We did four shows on two nights at the Roxy and that was basically
In addition to Perkins Palace, which is not really considered a strip show because Perkins Palace was in Pasadena
Glendale around there we did a show there for rock and roll tonight
You know that TV show that yeah that they had on Friday nights. Yeah, and
Outside of that I'd say when we played at
When we when choir riot played at the us festival that was that was like the only other
LA area show that we did
You know, we weren't really a once the album metal health was recorded. We were not a local band anymore
So when does festival came that was 83 correct? Yeah, 83 you played with quiet, right? Yeah, okay
I got proof
I'm just thinking about yeah, the Aussie situation. Yeah, where was it by that time by that? Oh, I left Aussie right after I finished recording
Speak of the devil the black Sabbath re-recordings at the Ritz in New York. I left the band
Yeah, and finished the metal health record
Okay, yeah, so you stuck around that long after Randy pass. Yeah, I had a commitment
I I had to finish, you know the tours and we had this this recording of
Speak of the devil
To fulfill, you know, I wasn't going about to walk out on them, you know, who was playing the guitar and speaking of that
Well, uh, Brad Gillis. So he did do speak of the devil. Yes after that who replaced him Mike
Vivi jakey Lee jakey Lee. Yeah, okay. That's what it was. Yeah, okay
Holy shit
right around
Speak of the devil was why I just that was it. That was it for me. I just went into a different fucking zone in my life
I remember having speak of the devil and
But that was it. It wasn't uh, I
Think I was done with a diary of a madman
Mm-hmm after diver a madman, I went out I became my own fucking madman
How were you then? Like I was saying when all this went down with you guys when everything went down
Okay, I you know, I grew up listening to Spanish music
okay, like when I was in
1971 I saw that movie about the funny all-stars and my head exploded. I
Never ever ever liked rock music
Like when I was growing up I always thought the oil some bunch of sushi compare with pillow lago some pelo
You know, all that shit, you know, you raise a certain way if somebody has long hair. Yeah
So in early on I started listening to like
The funny all-stars sell your cruise that shit
You know, like I would go to kids houses and they'd be listening to some shit and I'm going like hold on
Let's play this shit and their parents are coming to room
You can't play this music in our house. You're like that like I was always two three years ahead of the other kids
There was a kid who came into the podcast once I grew up with
That says I still remember you bringing Richard prior into my house and our parents catching us and you won't allow in the house anymore
You know, I was always one of those dudes like I my music was
three years ahead of what everybody else was listening to but
When I moved to Jersey, that's when I first heard Peter Frampton
Frampton comes alive and I was like wait a second there might be something there
Maybe I'm being stupid and a new young crazy horse
And I was like, that's okay. I think new young has short hair
I could live with that if he's got long hair then I really can't run with him in shit. You know saying
But I got Led Zeppelin something by Led Zeppelin made me blow and then that was it and then I went to my friend's house
And I don't think we were smoking pot yet, but he played tomorrow's dream
By black Sabbath, and that fucked my world up. I was like, I don't know about that music, but that shit was good
And I had deep purple when we rock we rock and we roll we roll
I started dabbling at it
And one day we were doing something and I had to walk home and bam, what do I see this place?
Isn't even there no more on Burger Line Avenue and 79th Street
It was like a little corner store next to where
Kentucky not Kentucky Fried Chicken don't cook tonight called chicken delight is it was right next door to it
And it was the cover the sabotage
And I said, what a weird fucking album cover. Let me buy that thing
And I took it home and I heard the fool of it all and I was done
Then I heard hole in the sky megalomania and I was done. I was like what the fuck is this?
I gotta start smoking some marijuana now. Oh, wait a minute. You weren't smoking then. No
No, I was dabbling in it
I would go out once a month with my friends and take a hit off a joint and put vizine in my eyes and cologne in my mouth
And you know the whole fucking thing. I didn't know it was from using and I started getting into Sabbaths not not really
I started getting into
Sabotage a little bit and then I bought
The second one
War pigs paranoid. Oh, yeah, and then I was going down to Jersey Shore
For a rendezvous with my friend stinky and John Bender and he we he everybody had a donate something
So he brought the cold cuts
I brought the weed and the music and I brought the first black Sabbath down there
And it was just fucking blowing on my John Bender didn't like music
He would drink and pass out but me and the other guy was sitting there. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. And then
What would you do would you just sit there like like a like a retard just sit there like bouncing? Yeah, I didn't play a guitar
I didn't bounce around. I would just sit there blown away by the lyrics. I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about man
You know
It's really weird. I think when you're Spanish and you hear American a certain type of American and makes you go crazy
Like it just impressed me like when I first heard Richard prior Rudy. I lost my mind
I came from my house where they cursed and shit in Spanish, but I never heard nobody curse like that in that context
You know saying like that had blown my mind
So when I heard Led Zeppelin like I wasn't a beetle do grown up fuck that noise
I was from part of Jersey that you got to be a Sinatra, dude
Like the part of Jersey I'm from Sinatra'll smack the shit out of fucking Bruce Springsteen. I don't know nothing about Bruce Springsteen, but I
Started going to concerts. I want to see Aerosmith with Ted Nugent
Ted Nugent was great. Aerosmith was God awful Rudy God awful 77 God awful heroin dump
They broke the guitars he panna
See no see been compiling. Why are you breaking the fucking amps for you guys need more practice than they've ever seen in my life?
But I loved again. I had rocks
Yeah, I rocked and I'm like god damn. This is a good out
Yeah, and then my buddy talked me into going because you know black Sabbath is playing tonight. I was a freshman in high school
It was black Sabbath with Van Halen
And in those days you didn't go for a warmer back you knew to get there they 30
We ain't going for the fucking woman back
But the rumor was to make sure you went for the woman back
And we saw it in front of us bill wood was breaking apart doing blow
Ozzy was fat
He had a gut and he had a bottle of vodka up on stage
It just wasn't there. You didn't have to be a music critic to know something's not right here
You know at that time I'd gone to six concerts. Maybe I didn't know nothing about music that much
and then
They broke up, but I like never say die and they had done something on Don Kershner's or the other one
That was really good for never say die
And I liked it so I liked never say that and they broke up
but I started getting more more and more into Ozzy and then
Like my 16 after my mother died that February
I went down a 22nd Street in New York Avenue and I bought a $10 bag of THC crystal
Which is basically fucking gorilla biscuits
aka angel dust animal tranquilizers
Me and this other dude and I went and bought fucking master reality
On the way home and I went home. I was living in my friend's house. He was out on a date
I locked the room
I put master reality on and the exorcist was on and I put the exorcist on with no volume listening to master reality
On that fucking gorilla biscuits and Rudy says I thought my heart was gonna blow up
So I just turned off the TV and never listened to master reality
Till about eight years later dog if I went to a party you put master reality on I leave
It's like when I hear the music from Star Trek. I have a heart attack
Then beginning of Star Trek. I gotta leave the room the old Star Trek the original. I don't like that music
What music what don't you like about it? I don't know it just scares the shit out of me, all right
I don't know what it is about the beginning of Star Trek. It fucks my world up. Oh
my god
How old were you when they came out?
who
You this has the Star Wars movies. I have no fucking idea
Star Trek not Star Wars your fuck
Okay, the TV show. Oh, okay, but when Ozzie
That whole thing blew up my mother had died
I was at every day party with my friends and I sang I would have do named John Crowley
What a fucking small world and John Crowley?
Listen, we were at a movie theater once in Fairview
You know what Fairview is they when we were kids
There was a carvel there and there was a double movie theater and every Saturday night
they played the Rocky Horror Picture Show and
A concert movie Neil Young the soaring man is the same
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba whatever
We went there once and there was a line for the soaring man is the same or whatever the fuck we're gonna go see I
Go John
We got to cut this line John goes. Let me do it when we walked to the door
There was an ice cream cone that somebody was eating that they put it upside down and the answer on it and shit
It was already melting
This motherfucker picked up the ice cream cone with the ants on
Uh-huh, and in the front of the line started eating the ice cream cone. They let him cut that nobody said two words to him
You understand me
We get into the movie theater and before the movies about to start I go John
Go up to the front there and talk to these people tell them what's going on here
Rudy he would do it he would get out and
go to the fucking
To the fucking
Front of the movie theater and say can I have your attention please ladies and gentlemen, and we'd be in the back. Oh, yeah, how
Nobody did with this the balls this kid did
We went to a party one time nice white people family
And I said Rudy get a chair a crowd. He got a chair that a chandelier
He fucking got a chair and he got he stood up on the thing and he pushed up the chandelier
I don't know how he did it another time. We're going on the jersey turnpike in the truck
And he tied a string around his dick and played with his dick the whole way down route three people were fucking swerving from how
Five how have they were laughing John Crowley was crazy
So at this time in my life, I hung out with John Crowley for entertainment purposes
John Crowley would take his dick out. He chased women naked
Whatever you whatever mission you gave to Crowley when he had three beers in them a couple hits of wheat reefer
So I'm at the end of what he does today
He writes children's books
He hit me up on my space about 10 years ago. Don't you gotta help me in hollywood? I got these books
I can't sell them. I did the original music now Crowley you're fucking crazy
When that song mr. Crowley came out that was adding gasoline to the fuel
That was it. He loved Ozzy Osbourne
So by him singing mr. Crowley, so I I wasn't at the Palladium show with him
The other show there was two shows like you said
They threw him out
Because he took his id and went up backstage and he said he's singing about me
Let me in there. I gotta talk to him and they escorted him out and that was the end of John Crowley
That's a true fucking story though. John Crowley. So he thought mr. Crowley was about him
So he was crazy all along and a state champion wrestler. He was crazy all along
Now Ozzy threw the kiss at that time. So everywhere he went people would sing to mr. Crowley. He said well, be on my local compartment
It was fucking crazy when I went through with that kid for three or four years
Yeah, that reminds me how insane our audience was insane
You know, well the bat the bat threw it right the fuck over and it was a real bat
You know with you know, we thought it's a toy bat, you know rubber
That's why he put it in his mouth, you know, it was a real freaking bat
One time we were doing a show in Lubbock and this is in Lubbock, Texas
This is right after he pissed on the alamo. So we were like on you know on the lookout because the
The daughters of the revolution and Texas militia were
Threatening Ozzy to shoot him on stage, you know, so we kept every time he would walk, you know
During the show on stage, he would walk over towards us
We were like run away from him because I don't want to get shot, you know
Because we thought we was gonna get shot on stage, right?
So I'm doing the gig and I'm like looking around. I was like really, you know, aware of everything that was going on
You know, it wasn't it wasn't about getting into the music anymore. It was all about about surviving the show
You know not dying on stage
And I see this frog. I thought somebody was throwing a baby
At me on stage. There was actually a bullfrog
Huge bullfrog it just landed right in front of me
You know upside down with his arms spread open and legs, you know, I freaked
First you know because in the dark, you don't know what it is. So you look and oh, it's it's a freaking flog
I thought somebody threw their kid on stage, you know, they used to I
Show up with freshly slaughtered
heads of cattle
Trying to get into the gig with that and of course they won't let him
so, you know, our rock crew would take polaroids
And bring him backstage and say, oh check this out
Check what this
Idiot was trying to bring him into the show
But people were still sneaking shit in because somebody threw a bat on stage somewhere
Yeah, the bat. Yeah, and he got rabies. I go there. Oh, what the fuck?
Yeah, the head of the of the cow, you know, you know, no, it's completely fucking different. It's too big too big
With horns and blood dripping and shit, you know
But then of course, you know, we used to have the the at the door
That's the little person
John that
Was part of our stage, you know presentation for the diary of amendment tour
So he had a bucket that he would drag across the stage while we were playing paranoid
The the the last song of the set
And they would put anything in that bucket anything that was left over food
From the uh from from dinner crew crew meal
They were sticking in that bucket and then the dwarf will go across the stage throwing it at the audience
slowly
and
And whatever went into the audience
The second half of the song came towards the stage and I got hit many times by
pieces of liver
Gizzards
Tripes
You name it, you know, and some sometimes they were if they didn't have enough
Delhi, you know, she had to put in that bucket. They they would send somebody out to get some from the uh
The nearest supermarket
And a lot of times they didn't thaw out in time. So we'll still be frozen
one time the uh john
The little person he got knocked over
By a piece of frozen liver
That somebody threw back from the audience
He just knocked them over on stage and just they took him over to emergency and stitch him up
Right in his forehead. Oh, yeah, that's crazy because when I saw you in the palladium, it was just
Four dudes on stage
But when I went to the meadowlands to see you when you guys came back in october
After randy had passed. Yeah
It was brad gillis. But now you had a fucking castle or some ship behind you. Yeah. It was a different fucking show
And the crazy thing was for all my azeep things
I always had good tickets, but when I got there something happened that the ticket became better
That was the only show that I had to stay like where I was at. I was like in twelfth row
So I didn't get hit by the fucking midget stuff. I didn't even know he was strong. I don't even remember that
Well, you know, it was a little guy
So his throw was only like maybe
Five rows because you got the pit and you got the rows, you know, but you would see all you know
Everybody docking right in front of you, you know
You know, you see like the horrified phases of people going like
And they would dock every time he would throw something out in the audience. Yeah
Now again in 1970 something some fucking moron went on david lederman and ate a bicycle
What? Oh, he ate a bicycle or some shit. He ate a pedal. He did something
And went on david lederman and he ate when I come up and get he ate something. Yeah, okay. So now
Six or three years later
I'm at this fucking party and this dude comes down
We played hooky and we ended up at his house and this dude comes down
and he
Before that I am going forward the one party we went to he took a gun out
His father was a cop. He took a gun out. He brought it down. He started playing russian relax
And we all got up and left. We were like this is how great bro. I grew up in northern new jersey
With white dudes that were the real deal, you know, and they and they and each one wanted out do each other
So the second time he went over there was the dead of the winter and we went to his house
John don't put the gun out there. All right. I promise in those days
We rob a beer truck from kennedy boulevard and we bring the beer to his house and so we're like
I was he I was way younger than john. I was a freshman when this happened
And I went over there one day and his mother smoked in the patio
But they had a little french poodle and he used to take those little shits
Little french poodle shits, but they wouldn't sweep it up
They would just freeze and stay out there to go to your mother
You know what i'm saying?
So we would just have to go out there and kick out the little shits and one time we're out there
They were talking shit and he goes how much did you damn it even piece of shit?
And we're like god, you know, we he got like seven dollars
And he picked up one of those french poodle pieces of shit and he ate
So now this became an epidemic while I grew up now people were doing shit now
My junior year in high school six of those morons get dressed up as garbage
Tremendous
They got garbage cans rubber garbage cans cut the bottoms off
They put underwear on they put suspenders to hold the garbage cans and then they put a lid on their head
But to top it off they took strings and they tied it to mail to a little mice tails
And then they took bags and they super glued it on their head and they walked it in this halloween party each with six live mice
This is 1980 80
Way this is a year or two before aziz biting shit off
These guys in the middle of the party
Pick up the mice and start eating the fucking mice live
Tails are in their mouths a friend of mine whose birthdays today might runny
Who I live with after my mother died grab one of the mice
Popped it in his mouth and it was eating it and you can see the tail
So they all started eating mice and this shit
So now my whole town is going crazy people eating shit
I went to another party one day and there was a table with a hammer with glass
They were eating glass these motherfuckers did these white fucks became crazy and I loved them
I grew up with them. They're my brothers. What am I gonna do? What now fucking?
What do you think happens? Ozzie's gotta because my town loved Ozzie Osborne
My town was 60 black Sabbath this motherfucker gotta go buy the fucking Eagles head off
And now my town's looking to fucking eat dogs and fucking cats and fucking
So Ozzie Osborne fucked us up in more ways than one
That thing that I'm telling you about the mice
They not only did that they did that in front of 100 people in a school auditorium on a halloween party for the families
Girls are crying teachers are running out
It was classic shit
Classic shit they talked about a few years like that they they never again that they have that party
Like that was the end of that fucking party. So that's how much damage Ozzie Osborne did then he put out snow blind
Which fucking sent you over again, you know what I'm saying?
Thank god nobody paid attention to suicide solution one kid steve banchini
He went to the george washington bridge. He got a carvel sunday
He was blind steve banchini would see you and he would say like quotes to you
Like uh rolling thunder
Powering rain. I'm coming on like a hurricane. That's a verse from the satanic
I don't know if it's that one
He would pick any song and he'd start dropping knowledge on you and one day he said fuck it
He got an ice cream cup ate it took his glasses off and he jumped off suicide bridge
He's like, oh, he didn't blame it on Ozzie Osborne on this family
Wow the memories
Black Sabbath
Rudy was that similar to your high school experience?
Oh my god
No
My head school experience all I wanted to do was to get laid. That was that was all at memorial or four years
One year memorial and then I went down to miami high. Okay
You know and this is the 60s and I was overweight in the 60s. So that was like a you know
I might as well. I had some kind of dc's, you know
It wasn't like not even getting laid
You know chicks didn't want to hang out with me guys didn't want to hang out with me because the chicks won't hang out with them
Because they're there with this guy, you know, who's like maybe 50 pounds overweight, you know
And all it was is I was eating Cuban food
You know, my mom was making you know
Cooking with lard eating a lot of rice and I happened to be one of those guys who is carbo
Carbo sensitive is the uh politically correct. It's fucks you up. Yeah, it does. You know cars. Yeah. Yeah, it does
Still does, you know, but back then I don't know. It's a matter of fact. I we were living in new jersey and
My mom heard about this diet doctor. It happened to be one of those doctor feel-good type guys
I was going to memorial high then
so my mom and dad take me to this guy in the city
And they put me in you know, take me to a room and kind of it's kind of like I went through like
separate tables one of them took my blood pressure the other one, you know
blood test and my weight and
Then at the end they give me these bottles and say, okay, you take this who won't you know
In the morning then take this in the afternoon then take this in the evening, blah, blah, blah, right
There were opera some downers basically. I had no idea. My parents didn't know they were just desperately trying to help me
To cope with something that was socially
Unacceptable at the time now. Nobody gives a shit, you know, but back then in the 60s was a whole, you know madmen
There were there weren't even fat people in the in the whole show
I kept looking for one, you know in madmen show and they I couldn't see a finer fat person
because that's the way it was in the 60s, you know and
So I started taking these opera some downers and I was screwed man
I would go to the mornings. I would be like
You know, I was like a like puppet running around this chubby puppet in gym shorts, you know at a gym
You know that we had early in the morning. We had the uh phys ed
Then in the afternoon, I was kind of like going down
I think it gave me another upper
And by the evening it was the downers that I so I couldn't do the homework. I couldn't function. I spent the whole day
Going up and down, you know
And so I told my mom and she said well screw that so she got me off that but
I gave it a shot. How long did you stay on them for?
Maybe a week or so
It was it was terrible awful. That was a doctor
In west new york or we hawking when I was a kid
I didn't like needles so
Somebody came to me once I go if you're heavy you go see this doctor gives you a couple shots and you lose
50 pounds
And I was like, are you fucking crazy? I mean, but then I have a another friend of mine
That got high one night. We were talking and she goes, you know, my sister used to be 100 pounds overweight
She went to a doctor for treatment. He gave her a bunch of shots. So
It's something that you got to pay a lot of money for
Who the fuck knows?
Yeah, it was taboo in the 60s to be a little overweight. All right. Yeah
Yeah, the girl still don't like like it's not like girls love that now and when I went to high school
It's uh
It's it's always been terrible. I think I think I might be alert
I went for allergy testing when I was really young
I think I'm mildly allergic to wheat and all that stuff. Sorry. I probably should stop eating bread and
All that. Yeah. Well, actually I'm I'm gluten-free now and it's really helping with with my allergies
Really? Yeah. Yeah, even though I just had a bunch of gluten in that box
But it's not something I eat every day, you know, that that's gonna go out. What's gluten in that potato?
No, it's not the potato is all of the other wheat all the wheat stuff in it
You know, like oats and wheat and barley like if you drink beer, there's a lot of gluten in it, you know
It's not for everybody. It just works for me, you know, and I'm not a celiac neither. So
I've seen have you seen Dean Delray lately?
Yeah, no, it's been a few months. He looks beautiful. Really? He eliminated sugar from his diet
Yeah, okay. I think that
You know, you hear about all bullshit diets, but I think that right now
That's a popular one. It's working for a lot of people. Yeah. I have another friend that died not diagnosed with cancer
Two years ago. Well, he looks beautiful. I just went home and saw him and gave him a hug
And he goes, all I did was eliminate three or four things from my diet sugar being the number one thing
And he goes, I'm stable the treatment's taken. I'm alive. I'm breathing. I'm working. I'm working. I'm eating good
He goes, but that's sugar. Once you get to a certain age, it's not even good and you'll see the difference
Immediately immediately
But sugar's in fucking everything Rudy that that period that I'm talking about, you know in the 60s when I was overweight
Uh, you know going through a Cuban diet everything had sugar in it
Everything, you know, everything that was that I that I consume has sugar, you know
And if it didn't then you added the sugar
My parents, I mean my my my mom
Still adds a lot of sugar to anything, you know
Let's say if you have a cafe con leche over the counter and they and it's sweet already
It's ready to go. No, she's got to put a couple of more sugar
You know packets in there in it. I always had a big I see it in my daughter now
I see the pickiness or maybe everybody's children is picky with their diet
But I see the different shit
She's attracted to
You know, it's good. She likes pasta, you know, she likes hot dogs
I give her sabre and hot dogs. I keep that in the family
Um, she likes mac and cheese. My wife makes it fresh for her at least
It's that out of a fucking box the school wants the little lunch cups and it makes me go fucking crazy, but
Uh
It's so weird how I I was fine till I was around 10 or 11 Rudy
And then at 11 I got hooked on my dead bot with lechicon inside
That's that's and that's condensed milk the shit that comes in the can
Cubans drink it with a soda called mateba. Yeah, and it's mateba is very healthy for you. Believe it or not
It's yet by mata or something like that. Yeah, and it's made of these fucking herbs and it's pretty fucking good for you
But not with two fingers of condensed milk
Every night before you go to bed
Yeah
Like I did it every I got addicted to it
Like I had to go home and do it every night and I watched the honeymooners
And the odd couple and they would zap me up and then by 12 30 I nappy nunu
And one day I was like 12 or 11 and a half and I was fat as fuck
And I and and this was going to karate
Like I was a karate buff at that age like something had happened to my body like drastically
And also I started playing basketball
And I started jerking off and that shit went right off and I got really really skinny and I was like, okay
So I went through a phase
It just didn't stick around by the time I got to the seventh grade. It was gone
Yeah, it was right before what cubans call a death at this I throw you
It's called when you start getting hair and yeah, you start coming and you start getting the deeper voice
Right right then I do pretty I dropped 60 fucking pounds and that stuff was gone
Yeah, I was playing basketball and it didn't come back till I was 30 fucking eight or some shit, you know 30
36 or something till I moved to los angeles
Yeah, yeah going back to leche con ensada, you know, that was a staple in my family
We had that a can in the refrigerator. Everybody has a can with aluminum foil on top of it
And you just like with two holes. No, I would never drink it. I would never drink it. I don't like
Well, you could put it in a spoon too. Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. No. Oh, you never did that. No, that's the best
No, that's the best a pulso and what is it and it tastes like what?
Tastes like heaven sweet milk. Yeah
awesome
Oh, Jesus
It's like caramel taste. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's what you know
No, no, no, no, no, no, I wouldn't I wouldn't and I don't like uh, yeah
Oh dulce de leche, you know, there's a little pastries dulce. It's the same thing. It's like a condensed milk, but into like a brownie
Hey, los tres leches
You know, those are the postres, you know desserts all that see I grew up with natilla
Natilla, which is that'll kill you. Yeah, that'll fucking kill you. That's eggs
Sugar and butter whipped with cinnamon on top bit more fucking sugar. Yeah
Flans i'm a flan dude. I'm on a tea dude my fate my
Listen, my number one
Went with my mom. I never had it after she died
There's natilla with entomians pound cake in that motherfucker and you let it get cold for a little while and you put the cinnamon when you pull it out
Come on now
Come on now merengue. Merengue. I wasn't allowed to eat merengue. It's white. So I would it was to get me sick
I'm not a merengue guy. I'm none of that
I'm a natilla, dude
pastelito
pastelito
I don't like I like a white hour, but I don't like cream cheese
I like cream cheese on my bagel with locks. I like cream cheese. Yeah. Yeah. I just listen
Another way to get fat is yava with cream cheese a cracker after every dinner
Whatever you eat for dinner
At the end of the dinner buy yourself the long yava and get yourself a thing of philadelphia cream cheese
And get cuban crack if you want to gain weight
Listen, if you're skinny as shit, I could hook you up right now
I got the diet for you right now
Rudy and I got to talk about the cuban diet. All right
The cuban diet consists of you open up with not a cup of coffee or not a
Well, when you go to when you go to starbucks, what's the big one the grande?
Listen that grande cafe. That's a cuban's piss on their first piss
My mom had a tub. It was a metal tub
That that's all she used for coffee. It had to be 20 ounces before anybody ever thought of drinking 20 ounces
But here's the weird thing. It was that shit. That's really sweet. Yeah, that should kill you
People drink an ounce of that and see the devil
You follow me. I did that every day. Oh god. I did. I swear. I did it my my breakfast was net cafe
You know, okay, which is instant coffee instant coffee with one of those tumblers that you're talking about
But this one this was a glass because I wanted to see
The sugar that I would pour in it kind of like, you know, get to the bottom
It looked like an aquarium, you know, when you have like the sand on the aquarium with the fish swimming, you know
So it's kind of like that effect. So once it collected like around maybe half an inch of sugar in the bottom
Then I stirred it then I would take
Uh
bread white bread, you know, like wonder bread
and
No butter. Oh wait, I'm getting to that
Uh, you listen this is the time where they came out with uh with the uh with the liquid liquid
butter squeeze butter
Squeeze butter. So I used to make like these signs, you know, I used to get like, you know, get creative with it
Making like little faces and then I will fold it
and dunk it
And until it went all the way down to the bottom
And then I was ready to go to school. How much bread would you do that? Just
A whole fucking loaf of freaky soly a loaf of Cuban bread with butter
Dipping it in your coffee like an animal and in between the eats drinking that same coffee
Because the butter drips now stays in tea
20 pounds in one week guaranteed with the Cuban diet
That's the one division then your division is the steak with the egg on it
Over rice cut up with the yolk melted over everything. That's pure disgust with lard with lard. That's pure disgust
Yeah
The lunches I really like
I like the lunches the lunches were I like I like an avocado salad with onions
Well, that's a lot of what I think
Just avocado sliced thin
With raw onions and vinegar and oil. I like that already a little bit of bread. Yeah, but that's a side dish
That's a oh, yeah, that's an appetit reef, you know, that's a pie. That's whatever. That's an opener
That's like the five stars we did
My mom always had this theory that if you're going to be asleep for at least eight hours
You might starve. So you have to have una made anoche
Sandwich I bought one for my wife before you went to bed
Just to keep you from starving to death. You believe that lean
It's a little smaller Cuban sandwich of a different type of bread. Yeah, and a little a little pickle
And a little pickle so your body doesn't work that hard
Because if you have a big meal dog, it's ridiculous how much how fat I could be right now
If I lived in Union City still
It's fucking crazy
I wish I was Spanish of some sort. It was
Because they're amazing like the park that park I got with Becky was amazing
I might cry when I tell you this story. I might fucking break down because I've been holding it for
I watched those 80 episodes of celli
And it took I realized I didn't lose my mother. I lost my mother and that world
I lost my Cuban world
I lost my Cuban world that there's a big thing when you lose a world
I lost
People's houses that I could walk into and I trusted their food. I knew what they cooked
I knew what days they cooked it on. You know what I'm saying?
When I knew I knew Rudy's mom makes little Bobby on Thursday
I'm gonna call I'm gonna call for Rudy and even if Rudy's not home. She's gonna invite me
You know
I missed that whole thing, but I'm gonna tell you what I missed the most
And you don't know in your life what you have until you lose it
My mom was what do you call those people from Cuba? She was a waheeda
That made that they made money
But her actions were waheeda, but they were with all heart which meant Rudy
If you had to get up at eight because you had to meet Randy and rehearse
My mother would walk in your house at three in the morning
Really damn, but you know that I gotta get up on that. Oh, yeah get up
They came over it too while you were sleeping and made
Fresh black beans and rice, you know, they cooked the goat
They got a few steaks and they got a bunch of the chorizo or whatever
And you used to be bothered like why would you wake me up to do that?
And you go downstairs and there was Cubans laughing that Cuban music on it's three in the morning
But to them it's two in the afternoon. Everybody does this. Do you understand me?
Like that's two my mom used to come home from the bar some night. She was tired
She came home and gave me a kiss and went to sleep
But all night she brings six people over and it was longotanchila out two in the morning
So at four my house smelled like it was lunchtime and she'd wake me up and goes until the other thing
I cooked longotanchila with raw mario with yellow rice and fried bananas
There's people downstairs and I'd walk into my kitchen at four and there'd be six people drinking beers
Eating, uh, you know, she'd make like Cuban crackers or prosciutto on it and shit
And I go Jesus Christ her and my stepdad would have these parties at three in the morning
We call them comelata, you know, you just
And it went and it just lead. This is not just a salami sandwich
This is somebody who comes home at three in the morning and makes a four course meal
One meal is enough like my stepfather's specialty was got bon sofrito
Let me tell you something. Let me arguments. I got with him over got bon sofrito. Hey, when he's gonna make something different
Today everybody right now. I would give this hand
To have those got bon sofrito
The way he would put the chorizo in it. He would cook it and that's
clay thing
Lee
Jesus motherfucking christ
He put it with some franks hot sauce at any age if my if my stepdad made that my mom would let me drink a loam, bro
You know what I'm saying? I can have a loam, bro
But as long as you have got bon sofrito
langote and chila or
During lint tamale and cassuela when they put the little lobster meat in there the little ham whatever the fuck that was
Tocino. Oh my god, Lee. You have no how much weight does that put on you tamale and cassuela?
I
It's uh that whole lifestyle
I really have to watch in that show
It kicked my ass for a few weeks really
Because I realized what the fuck I lost
I lost a certain sense of humor
I I lost a certain sense of
speaking to people
When you're in that realm I had my mom's bar where I could go in there. I could drop a couple bean guys
He make I would call you tomorrow
But the realm I hung out with
I had to walk in there and ask him for that blessing
That's something that I don't I don't live in that world no more. Oh, yeah. Miss Arzo and this young guitar really
No, can you tell me a but I'm coming across a get out, you know that I had I was one of those guys rudy
Trust a lot of trust a lot. No, no, no, I had I was one of those guys that was raised religiously Catholic
But in Cuban terms, yeah, so when I came to your house
I would ask your dad for his blessing, but he's shown mr. Cecil totally
What the house on Tony there was no cocoa
Those people didn't call me cocoa. That's what those other Cuban people called me
But the kids I hung out with they were decent Cuban people
The people I grew up in they gambled they sold blown they took numbers
They were nice people
But I was involved in two different worlds when I was a young kid those geeky kids
I went to karate with from union city
That's how you had to speak in their house
How those people in Celia talk
Come on tell me in your went again, you know, when you go, what do they say you're on the way out the door those Cuban people?
It's a fucking sermon
It's a fucking sermon on the way out the door
Really, if you take leave
It's five five minute god bless you my mind still does that it's like it's like our goodbye is longer than our conversation
Our conversation. Yeah, goodbye and then god bless you
La ley la que te lo camino, you know, my god, you're sitting there. That's the other world
I grew up with that a lot of people don't know I couldn't speak the way I did in front of my mom's friends
In fact, I had a family who threw me out of the house
Lord is Ramos our mother asked me to leave the house because I said to her you're single
You don't look too bad. Why don't you go out and get a husband? She goes nobody's ever spoken to me like that
Get out of the house. I was 12
When did you say this to her after like she gave you cookies in sixth grade?
In the sixth grade, I like this little fucking Cuban girl. Oh my god
So on Wednesdays, we used to always I went to school in North Bergen
So on Wednesdays, we don't walk to union city
To get to be part of a pottery class
If I wanted to get in with this girl
I had to go up there and make a fucking statue every week with like a bunch of black kids in union city
That were bused up from jersey city. So it was me lord as
It was uh, this other Cuban girl the Cuban girl
I had a crush on and a friend of mine would all go up there on Wednesdays and make figurines
And one day it was snowing or something the lord is invited us up and we went up
Lord, this was a cute a cute Cuban girl, but she had a thick mustache
Even the sixth grade that motherfucker was yoke jack. It was like Lee's mustache in the sixth grade
But she was cute and fucked but nobody had the balls to tell her lord is you got to bust out the Gillette
You know what I'm saying?
She lived on 26th street
In county boulevard on the first floor
You couldn't break into a house unless you were gymnast. It was one of those first floors
Like it wasn't right there off in county boulevard, but you could call for her
And in those days, nobody was having sex guys at least I wasn't it was the farthest thing from my mind
I just wanted to hook up with this skinny girl and like make out with her
You know in the sixth grade to get him out. Yeah, as they called it. Yeah, you want to make out with them and hold hands and
But I never dreamed about having sex with nobody in those days and the one day called for whatever we all went over house
I'm looking and the mom was banging
If lord as was 12
The mom must have been like 31, but on fire
Ruby she was on fire at that age. I looked and I'm like boy
I see the winches that go to my mom's bar. You do great at my mom's bar
You'd walk out of there with three killers. What are you doing sitting at home every night with a bible?
I said, you know, I'm looking too bad. You might as well go out there and shake it
I'm burying like that. I'm just told me to get out of the fucking house
And after that I learned the two types of humans
You know a couple years ago, I still have a great cuban friend of his family is in pasadena
and I brought up
Mom afro cuban music to the house for christmas
Really, they almost had a heart attack
Really, they almost had a heart attack
They don't like anything
Black there's two types of cubans. Yeah, there's two types of cubans
And that's the cuban i'm talking about
I always had that crazy cuban side. I could tell you, you know, I grew up a crazy fucking white
It was the kids I was involved with
And how I had a behave in that circle
Those kids didn't get high
Those kids didn't even think about getting high. We used to all go to karate together and we were geeky kids and
Three of them were going to join the marines, you know, those are the cuban kids. I grew up with
It's fucking crazy
God knows where they are. There's one kid who
Still talks to me. He's got a sex slave
Me and him have been friends since the bruce lee days
His father
I know pinot from sakin heart school for boys
Because I went to sakin heart first
But then they put pinot in there first because pinot's father had an air-conditioned business
And he fixed my mother's air conditioning at the bar
Pinot's father did a couple bumps. Everybody knew this. So me and pinot became friends the front
For pinot hang out with his dad. You'd have to come to the bar and me and pinot was you pool
Play pinball and go to bruce lee movies
But then me and pinot ended up in the same grammar school together me and pinot loved each other
And then me pinot and uncle mikey like a retarded kid. He was like 19 when we were like 12
We let him hang out. He was a pervert that never made it
But he was a great kid mikey had a basement and we could do karate down in his mother would always yell at us
Get the fuck out of there. You're a bunch of losers
You never got about the nothing mikey
It was me pinot mikey. This is a different period in my life. We studied karate
On 39th street and bergen line
At fujiapai academy above the bottom of the barrel and carvel
Bottom of the barrel lee is a big-time old school mafia bar where henry hill hung out there
And the corner was carvel. But what makes this better was down the corner was glu 28
Okay, and next to him was dot. Dock cortina
Okay, but the secret about clump's intellectual was that it was owned by willy rendy
Willy rendy
I told you this his claim to fame
Was that his grandfather was the dude and godfather too had a big dick. You see godfather
You don't remember. Yeah, of course. Yeah when he comes out
They take him to cuban when he finds out fray they'll betray them
They're at a cuban joint where the cuban had a big dick
Well after that movie came out willy vandies claimed the fame was that that was his grandfather
And he had a big dick too
So during the week he had bands and salsa and hanging at night
But on saturdays once a month it was willy rendy. He would do a sex show in there by himself
We would pay off the cops and nobody would show up
We'll do it like a solo act sex show. I was probably
I'm probably fucking 11 or 12
I know
I know nothing about this, you know saying like
I'm probably maybe 13 really you're about to okay my stepfather. I don't bully that
Which means he was a bookmaker and his office was on 57th and and Hudson
That's the heart of the cuban neighborhood. They had their bindi
They had another cuban bar that a florist shop. They had a butcher shop
These are all cuban born. These are all cuban businesses, but they were really fronts for not drugs in those days
strictly numbers was that
Union city or was new york west new york
So how far from public school number five or or memorial was that right around the corner from memorials?
56 is there was memorials right around the corner from this. This is the heart of cubanville
There used to be a cuban restaurant on the corner the guy's name sister
His name was new addo and his sister ran that I mean great cuban sandwiches great cuban food. Yeah
Yeah, I live on Hudson avenue. Hudson avenue was the heart of cuba. Yeah, brindy was on
That was a bar on 52nd street cuban bookie joint
Then 57th street was a brindy and then like into like 36th street was another
cuban little neighborhood there and the guy's name was boyo trite
That means sad pussy and he read that bar there
so my stepdad
Lent money to fucking this is hysterical
My my stepdad lent money to willy vandy
Right when he lends money for points
So one night i'm bitching about something because in those days i went to catholic school
And I would come home on thursday nights and I always wanted to go to the movies, but I did something
I was punished so part of the punishment. I got stuck with him
And he didn't like my mother's bar. He would go early leave and then come back
And sometimes he didn't come back. So one night he goes come on
Take a ride with me. Thank you for the light and ice cream. Let's go try the money from willy vandy
And I don't know what's going on now at this time. I knew willy had a big dick
Once I found out he had a big dick. I didn't really was his friend no more. You know what I'm saying
Like I'm like I'm like 12. I don't want to be friends like I was got a big dick. Why I don't need that in my life
So I take the ride to fucking 38 street and we there was no parking
We were gonna go get ice cream first
But there was no parking because that's friday night saturday night and how and that
That bottom of the barrel that mafia joint was bad. So we had a park close to club 38
There was parking so
Club 38 was on new york avenue. So we're walking up and we walk in there. You had to like knock a certain way, you know like
And then somebody would knock back and then you had to knock and then they'd open the door
You want to eat the top of dung and they let you in and I was like, you know, whatever
And I walk in and it's like a comedy show
There's like 250 people
And they're standing there with cops and everybody's drinking and they have my cuban music on nobody's dancing
And also when I walk in with one the lights drop
Right
Lights drop and all of a sudden you hear like a little wawa and call me was like
It's not like dung like it was just beautiful
And all of a sudden they bring like this chick that doesn't want to be there like she's like she's like getting raped
But not really no, I'm a donkila. No, you know, we never had to and they tire on the pole and shit
And she drops their hands and knees and then willie would come out with a mask and like a cape and shit
And they were like and people like
And the lights would drop and sometimes the bulb would go out because it was a cuban dude
He didn't know how to run the lights and shit. This is fucking craziness
And dog willie opened up his cape like three feet away from the woman
And he started like shaking gyrating his hips and people were clapping
And I didn't want to look willie, you know, I mean really you don't want to look at a man's dick, but fuck it
You know, you must look it's right in front of you
willie his dick had to be
three feet long
But it was like
It was like a tail a skinny tail
But here here's what I always thought like for years and baffled me like how would you get your dick that way?
And then I watched anthony bordain when he went to hua the one time
And they saw a guy who was bending steel. Did you ever see that episode?
He's trying to bend steel and the one cuban says the other
When I was a kid that was a big word
That means you're burnt like when I was a kid the big word was like you smoke marijuana
Like your head would get long like if you smoked pot that was the fear it wasn't nobody
Reagan that came out and said don't smoke pot. It was cuban people that would tell you
Oh, if you smoke pot, you're gonna burn out like the Beatles. You're gonna get long hair and shit
What was I talking about really? I'm talking about the guy with the steel the guy with the steel. Okay, so
I I thought about cuban people
And I thought about how this guy would make his dick that big
And I can picture him and like three of his uncles and cube on the farm
Like since they all had the reputation of having a big dick like I thought about like this is the only way
Because you know how cuban people are they all have a reputation of having a big dick all those years like
And they'll brag about it at parties all your life. I mean, I mean, I think I'm gonna do like a pile
That they all got together and just stretched it and just pulled on like pull pull and you
And they just pull pull pull because his dick wasn't not like my dick at the age was bigger. It was thicker
His dick something had happened to it
Like by the thing it became like a little push like a belly button
And then it was just like they twisted it around like a ponytail like it was
I had never seen that and it was not a prosthetic. I saw it with my own eyes
I have to about a minute or two dog
I just ran out of there crying and we went to carvel and that was I never told nobody about that story till about five years ago
Oh
Oh my god
No, I I I said the word give it out because like
Back in the day again in cuba, you know, like if you force yourself
Let's say if you pick up something and it was too heavy you would get like an una ennia
Take it after which means that one of your testicles would like blow up and get like really huge
And that was like a sign of being cut out
I think you gotta hurry it right now
But it's been like that for so long. Fuck it
Leave it like that. Why why fix it if I ain't broke it, you know what I'm saying?
That's the problem with people is then you find other shit out and you get mad at yourself
What's up, Lisa? Yeah, my brother
Good to see you really saw so liane saying
No
This is insane. This is insane. Love it. What's up, buddy? I was just
Do we finish up with the sex slave? It was just oh, no, oh, pino. So pino. Yeah, pino. What happened?
I'm pino. I grew up with pino till about
Maybe the age of brucelly died in 73 me and pino were heartbroken
Like we were heartbroken me pino and big mic were heartbroken. I'm not kidding you mic was like a 19 year old
Something was wrong with him
But he was kind of there and he studied karate with us all different all three of us went to the same karate school
But they went to different karate schools on the weekends or some shit because they had mom somewhere else like that their parents were divorced
So it was really interesting to hang out with these guys growing up and things happening all sudden
I did a couple movies and one day I got an email
It's my man pino
And he's living in jersey wants to talk to me calling you I picked up the phone
This has to be maybe a year after the longest yard. I pick up the fucking phone
Pino, what up? Oh my god. Let me tell you what happened
But he told me because you need something my father done living the air conditioning business
And fuck it. I sold it and I made a few million dollars and everything's beautiful in my life
He goes you need anything and I go no, you know
And he goes do you want to do breakfast lunch or dinner? I go
I'll do let's do breakfast tomorrow. I go meet me at the fort lead diner. So I meet him at the fort lead diner
He looks beautiful. He's still a handsome kid never gained a pound
He always was a cuban that was tan with blue eyes sitting next to the table
We ought to open your eggs by the way and in between the conversation he goes, listen, man
I don't know if you're interested. I have a sex life. I just she's been living in my basement for years
I gotta tie it up and shit. He's telling me this whole fucking story
He goes in fact, I gotta bring her an omelet
You know
He's telling me all this shit and I'm like, oh, listen, brother. I can't I can't I don't want to be involved
He goes, no, it's all legit
She signed she signed paperwork. I put away money and that's girl for
And in two years, you know for two years. She belongs to me
I could fuck up my friends could fuck whatever you want to do if you want to come on with your cook
Where's she from? I have no I didn't I stopped the conversation Rudy
I didn't want to know
I didn't know if he was a fed, you know, listen. I meet you for breakfast. You're talking about a sex slave
two different
I meet Joe for oatmeal and you start talking about sex slaves, you know me rudy
I got asked for the check. I can't have that that early in the morning. Were she with him on the leash or no
He goes, I was gonna bring you back to the house to meet my kid
I go, so how the fuck he goes. No, no, no, my kid don't know I I tell my kid that she can't go
She's a tenant only I'm a lie down there. I got keys. I gotta tie it up. That's how she likes to be tied up at all
And that was it. I didn't ask if she was good looking
I didn't ask what nationality she was that had nothing to do with me rudy
Was there like a nuclear plant near your town like I don't understand your
It's like a three hour drive from where I grew up
And it just couldn't be more different now
I went to
Not Miami Fort Lauderdale about two years ago and he showed up and I asked him
He stood up the sex slave. He goes, no the contract ended
And he was howling him and this kid were howling
Unbelievable
You know
Do you think
All the crazy shit that happened in a lexilio
Was a continuation of crazy shit that was happening in the island or do you think people just
Lost it when they left the island and all of a sudden they find themselves in a culture clash
They know what you know, they know what the environment how to deal with it and they just started like doing crazy shit
You think that's what happened
To Cuban people or any of the nationality at least
I
I had a more
Outside of the box experience living in new jersey that I did when I moved back to Miami, which is closer to
You know to Cuba, you know, it seemed to be a little bit more
Or kind of like the same pattern
That we had living back in Cuba in Miami, but moving to new jersey. That was a whole different experience
Do you think that had a lot to do with it for free for your experience being so far away from
From the belly button now. Okay. So now here I am. I'm living in
205 west 88. My mom has a bar. She's successful. She's got money at the time. My dad left the money
They had the restaurant up the corner from willy randy to be honest with you
My mom had that up the corner from club 38 now today. It's a refrigeration place
Well, there's some refrigerators for restaurants. That was a restaurant called el ok
That my mom and my dad owned
In the 50s before for doubt
It was a little restaurant. They sold Cuban sandwiches Cuban coffee and they made money because it was
Robert Fulton. What is it? Uh, Robert Waters
It was Robert Waters. Whatever that school is right. I mean right. It's like they owned listen to me
It's like, you know that building across the street right now. Lee, right? That's the high school
My mom owned the funeral parlor a little coffee shop
And that was their front for the numbers
The numbers was their big thing
When my father got here he got here before my mother
And he teamed up with these Jewish dudes and they started pushing heroin when nobody knew this is the early 50s
Because the he spoke their language. So he was the interpreter
So he took a piece of that money and started opening up businesses
He opened up that business that he closed that he opened up a bar on 29th street called every law
And that was bands a restaurant. That was the real deal
I mean two doors down from speakerman's bakery. Those are the jews when you're living next to jews
You got to be making moves, you know, I'm saying especially in 50 fucking though. They opened up the restaurant probably
61 60
Oh, that's that's a they had taken over this small little piece
But at the same time cubans were taken over a small piece
of miami
So in the winters, I would spend them in
in new york city
But the last week of july
I would shoot to miami to 130th and 130 100th avenue on the southwest by monkey jungle
And this is a complete different. Yeah, kendo. This is a complete different world for me
My godfather at the time was a construction guy
He was a little deep then he was a member of the chamber
He he had two daughters and a son
Very very successful
Uh
newspaper articles he would take that it when we used when I was a kid
I would get on the fucking
Bulldozer with him
And I would see the fucking lizards and the snakes and the fucking animals
He would go to that property when it was still a swan dog
And then they would lay the thing and then he would build the first house and then he moved into the first house
And while he lived in the first house, he built four more houses that were duplicates of those houses going to be seen now
You know a tremendous backyard with a lemon tree and orange tree and a finca whatever they called it and bland
So you had this big property. So as a kid, I would shoot down there the last week of july
Now when I went down there I go to redberry's baseball camp
And I live under my godmother's rules, which was no cursing
Very religious
They didn't talk about what I talked about up there
But redolpho
I knew from my mom's conversations that redolpho was from the same world my mom was from
So at night I would sleep with redolpho
Because him and vivian never slept together anymore because he would snore at night
So he had a king-size bed back there. So we would in miami in those days. This is
71 72 you already in miami?
Okay, the tv would shut down at midnight or one o'clock
But the last show would be mission impossible
And after mission impossible
And the tv would shut off really so so
And he would say go go beat with it and mean him would get dressed and we'd take a ride to a
uh
a place that
La marquita
And they would sell beers and milk and butter and it was a drive-thru drive-through. They still have it. Jesus christ lisa yet
You understand me lisa yet?
And the beer was elite. Listen to me
crazy
The hotter it was lee outside and the more humid it was
That fucking cuban dude and that hut knew that beer had been under ice for 12 hours lee
You couldn't even hold it. It was so cold. God and I'd be 10 and he'd buy me a fucking Budweiser
And I'd drink a Budweiser and I'd get a little drunk and shit
And then he'd take me down to some fucking dock
And we'd get on a boat and he'd go out and then he'd pick up bales of weed
And I make believe like I didn't know what was going on, but I didn't know what was going on
He put him on the boat
And we'd drive back he'd lock up his boat
wow
And we'd drive back to the house like nothing happened and on the way back he goes, you don't understand this between me and you
My kids don't have to know nothing about this
And then he would tell me stories about him and my father growing up in cuba with tony perez from the Cincinnati Reds
And how well I'm up below them when your dad died it broke my heart and I had to move and
He would cry he would break down and cry and we'd go back to his house
It'd be like 5 30 in the morning the sun would come up
We lay down for 10 minutes and Vivian would make fucking eggs and bacon. It was like a nothing happened
And I'd do my shit with the kids. She would make us do homework from 9 to 10 that she would assign
Oh, no, no, no, you had to play the piano
So it was too I'd lived I lived like an undercover life a cuban undercover life. You understand me
I knew what was going on, but I didn't know what was going on
And then he ended up shooting some dude and everybody he went away to that land and then his kids found out
I still keep in touch with the kids as best as I can. In fact, I was thinking of calling the the son today
I was thinking about
So
Those are the cuban worlds. I lived in
But
All those families like I said those early families of kids I grew up with in union city
Those kids showed me the other world and how the polite they were
And how they couldn't speak that way in front of their mothers, you know what I'm saying?
Like I couldn't speak crazy in front of my mother
But she wouldn't talk like regular moms like I would never bring my mother in public already
Like I would try to avoid my mother going to school as much as I fucking could
Because she didn't know how to act
She was a fucking waheeda, you know what I'm saying and to make it worse a waheeda with money
With jewelry hanging off and you saw this thing today at the house
He saw the fucking thing when I was three my sister sent me a picture from cuba of me and my mom when I'm in three
I got a suit on rudy. There was your mom. Yeah, and she was there holding me with a mink hat on who wears a mink hat 1966
You know what I'm saying
Not even black people had a mink hat on those fucking days
And the chain around her neck with the big fucking sento abacum
Asawachi and a tremendous gold cane like a little cool j who does the type of shit, you know what I'm saying?
I saw the ankle bracelet and my neck has stood up
Because when I was a kid no women had ankle braces
She would have a gold fucking bracelet with like a thing hanging on who wore that shit, you know what I'm saying?
So I grew up and all that stuff and all those businesses
In those days were all cuba known rudy
And you had to behave a certain way in those places. You had to act a certain way when you walked in those places
You couldn't be in there giggling and shit
the other day
I'm flying
okay
And there's a kid and there's a girlfriend
And I believe I thought of you. I didn't think of you in this way Lee
I just thought of you because I wanted to tell you on the podcast and I forgot
Because of where what culture I come from
Okay
It's six in the morning. Okay. I know it's fucking early, but you got to pay attention
People get shot every fucking day. You got to pay attention
This kid and this girl are fucking around but obviously there with a guy
That the kids got to be I kept clock them at 24 the girls got to be about 23 and the old man's got to be about 60
As we're walking I see that that the two kids are walking more and more distance from the old man
I see the old man reaching his pocket. I'm walking
slanted behind them
And he takes something out. He goes back. He takes something out and as we get to the tsa agent
The tsa agent goes
Take it and fucking ID
And by that point the old man walked up with them. He looks at the boat and he goes
And I remember what that word meant in my culture at that age tell him really what it means eating shit
It you shit, you know, it's eating shit really is when you black out in life
Like I didn't see the kid running from out of the car
You were fucking around texting you were doing something you were not supposed to even be doing
You're at my restaurant. Sit down straight and look straight ahead
You don't need to touch nothing in those days. If you touch something they'd say no, don't get out. Don't say cool
Like if I were gonna if I were gonna her name this restaurant, I wasn't allowed to touch the condiments
He would tell me 10 times. Oh, yeah, don't touch my condiments
You don't need to touch my condiments for no reason at all. I don't want you touching the sugar
I don't want you touching the salt
You're sick of a kid's throwing away like the way I and then pinot's pizzeria came
Pinot's pizzeria was on 22nd bergen line avenue a tremendous fucking cheese slice
Wait a second. Wait a second. Is that pinot the sex slave? No, no, there's a complete pinot
So that's why we would always go in there with pinot
When pinot open we go in there with pinot buses
But with a real pinot, please stand up and they will get pissed off. What pinot for family
I'm pinot. I'm from cuba. There's no italian named pinot tremendous
Then pinot's pizzeria
Listen, you go to pinot pizzeria take the pepper and throw it against the wall. There was another day there
You know saying but up to
You can go
You can go in there and throw the pizza and say fuck you pinot
And that was another day in our life of those fucking savages
But two blocks up at ananda's
Cuban restaurant
You had to act like a gentleman
Because the old man
Would fucking fuck you up and everybody knew it. He would fuck you up
He had a reputation of dragging people down bergen line and across the street was the busters
This is so fucking crazy to me like how talking to you brings all this out
I forgot when you walked into and we started talking about the palladium
I thought about
What I was going through in my life at that time
And what seeing that ep meant to me at that time
Like my head blew up
And now I see you here and we're eating and we're fucking around. It's Thanksgiving week
It's fucking crazy really so it's nuts. It's nuts
I'll never forget my my first
Sanctivity in Miami, you know, because you know coming from Cuba. We didn't have that. We had no chihuena and that was it, you know
So Sanctivity was like and why does this Sanctivity is all about, you know
Then you get to know about the pilgrims and the indians and all that right
But we were Cuban refugee
You know our first Thanksgiving was 1961. We had we were fresh
Fresh off the of not of the boat but of the pan american airlines
We landed in september or november. That's it two months later, you know right after my birthday you had Sanctivity
And so my mom, you know, we were getting army surplus food at the time all the Cuban refugees
We did which meant that my mom every couple of weeks she would go with with us the kids
She would take one of those one carrito, you know, like the little carts that you put
Stuff in, you know
Like your groceries or your laundry and stuff and drag it down, you know for about four or five miles
To the place where you picked up the the army surplus food. It's kind of like casco
but only for refugees, you know
And they'll you know, you go there and you give them a card that had like your allotment of how much every you know
Every couple of weeks and they fill these boxes just like casco and everything is plain wrap
plain wrap
powder eggs powder milk
peanut butter
government cheese
Spam you used to call it carne de refugio
And my mom learned to make carne. That means refugee me refugee me
Yeah, i'm just trying to imagine what powdered eggs taste like
Powder eggs
Next time you come on some of these tits lick the white plufulu with the drips. That's powder eggs right there
powder eggs
You know, and it's gotta be it's american airlines eggs. Yeah like that or or the uh, you know, when you stay in one of those hotels, you know
You know, no free breakfast. We're free breakfast, you know powder egg eggs
Scramble eggs, you know stuff like that. Yeah
And uh, so yeah, so my my mom had all of a sudden, you know
You know, it was kind of like
Well, how am I going to feed my family with this crap?
You know, but it was amazing, you know the cuban mind you just kind of like adapt and be creative
You know, so she made croquetas the carne de refugio
She made like hamburger patties carne de refugio
You know, everything was refugee meat and you could always smell it you walked down the hallways of a of a you know
project
You know, miami will have big buildings where you know, a lot of families live there
You know, two or three story high, you know, and you could smell the carne de refugio, you know
Cooking it and with lard. They give you a can of lard, you know, and it was totally insane
Totally insane. I can't lie. Every time I go to rounds and I see
That can shit spam. I might get goosebumps because I want to buy it
Cut it slice it then and fry that motherfucker up with two eggs
You have no idea. At least I had you have no idea what I went
Then you drink a cup of coffee after that and don't go 10 feet farther from the bathroom
You understand me because your life's about to flash in front of you
Spam spam spam is not bad. I you know what? I don't need it. I haven't eaten in years
But I could go buy a can of spam right now get some spinach
Cook it up with some olive oil with some garlic some fucking
Some spicy pepper that red crushed pepper and eat some spam with some spinach. What?
Damn me. Go ahead. But that's all we had. Nothing. Yeah. That's all we know. No, no the choice. You had spam
carne de refugio, you know, yeah
You know now, how old were you when you left Cuba really?
Uh, it was about two or three uh, two and a half months shy of 11
And what do you remember like what the like I like I said
I grew up in a house
That I was too young to remember what was going on
So you have this you you have this 100
uh, percent hatred
Uh around now, I know when I look at you and I go, I hate the boss in the red sauce. No
When I look you straight in the face and I go
You know, I said, you don't even know I'm puto. I like I said more than concept
You know when I look at people look at that I grew up with that type of hate for fidel
Yeah, like it was fucking ugly spinning hate, you know, I was around when they started looking
for anybody who was associated
with Batista
Like that's how hatred
Cubans were in 1970 through 75
I used to hear rumblings of these Cubans looking for Cubans
That had been involved with that were now in their 60s that were involved in the Batista regime
And now they were gonna hunt them to fuck down
And I remember and I told you as a kid I grew up with that they they put them in the witness relocation plan
He was one of Batista's drivers. Oh, and I remember going
Would I fucking leave an island and hunt somebody down?
Even at that age with no logic. I was like that's fucking hatred
But you know what by the age of 16 Rudy my mother died
Other things were popping up. I had forgotten all about this hatred for fidel
So whenever he was on tv now because in the home I grew up with as soon as he came on tv
You gotta switch the channel
You gotta switch it right away and temp is fled and sometimes somebody broke down in teas
It was ugly at that fucking bar. I saw it a thousand times
The mood go from fucking that's how much hatred there was in the early 70s towards the del castro where I grew up
And then I soon I forgot about this hatred the movie scarface came out
And all of a sudden
I watched
The celia show and by episode 20 they got to go to mexico
But fidel just turns on this country and his hatred for fucking black people and his hatred for
uh gay people and
Uh how he just took people's businesses and put them on a fucking pedium
And they had to have tickets for food and you know celia crews wouldn't look at him in changavara
You know, they have that scene where they told her make sure you sing that song
To fidel directly in che and nod and smile and she wouldn't do it
So they declared her uh, whatever of the state and then she lost the house and they attacked her
It's very interesting
What do you remember?
Well growing up
Well, first of all my parents they they
Originally we were going to get on a on a cruise that was bound for spain that was going to do a layover
in
New york city and the plan was to when my family arrived on this and the ship
in new york city
to
To ask for political asylum, you know and stay over in new york
Well, the the cruise right before the ones that we were scheduled to get on
Half the boat did that
They did that they just got off and asked for political asylum in new york city
So from that point on they say well, we're not going to stop in new york anymore
We're just going to keep going from my havena to spain wherever it was probably barcelona, you know
Uh, so my parents had to like read, you know start all over again, you know, uh, we we had a sponsor
That claimed us from the united states. We have visas. We have everything. It was all legal, you know, plus a passport
Plus the danger
Of doing that in a communist country because once you the powers that be find out that you're leaving that also
You're gusano, you know, you're you're leaving the country. You're leaving the revolution. Basically, you're not supporting the revolution anymore
so
My parents took my brother and me out of school
For that year because in schools, you know
The teachers were made to ask the kids
Questions about how their parents are talking about fidel and the revolution at home
You know, they were kept after school for that
and
One of the instances I remember
One of the teacher coming in to you know, to our class and saying, okay, I want you all kids to to pray to god
for ice cream
We did and got nothing and then she goes, okay now pray to papa castro for ice cream and
We got ice cream, you know, so they were indoctrinating
Our generation, you know and turning us against our parents
And we were kids. We didn't know what was going on. You know, when you're a kid, you're you're basically honest, you know
When they ask you certain questions, you know, especially when there's an authority figure
Kind of like threatening you, you know
In school basically just their presence would be enough to do that
So my parents wanted to avoid any possibilities. That was around the time where they were doing los pioner pioneritos pioneers
Which is basically they were taking kids from families sending them over to russia
And there was a uh, it was a movement that started happening in miami called los peter pan
peter pan was getting the kids out of cuba
and putting them in foster homes
around the united states
new orleans
miami certain other parts of the country just to avoid from having the kids being sent over to to russia
at the time
uh
When we arrived in miami, I mean i was in havana when bail pigs happened and we were in miami when the
october missile crisis happened
So i have a recollection of all of the uh
The intensity in the air
That you felt, you know, because you just didn't know you didn't know if it was good you were
Experiencing the beginning of a world war three, you know, it was really really thick
I'm being a young man. I don't mean to you know six and every way you went had a fallout shelter
Oh, yeah
You know, uh schools had the fucking drills
And you had to go down to the basement and they gave you a package the one day we asked down there for two hours
And they gave you a package and they had tang
Tang tang with water and like a fucking
Some fucking artificial sandwich and shit
And uh
We were more prepared like they were preparing kids for war in those days like we always had to go to a basement or some shit
I didn't see it as war. I saw as the the end of the world
This was it and then what was going to happen. Let's say you came out of that cave
To this new world where everything is destroyed
What
What are you gonna do, you know
Did you ever see Castro when you were a kid? Yeah, I did. Where'd you see him?
Um, my dad used to work for la revista wemia
He was one of the uh of the uh technicians. He ran the three bobbin machine, you know, there was like three big
cylinders of paper
And they were rotate and the paper would be printed on that, right?
So, yeah, we worked at at the at the la revista wemia for many years
And so he had a uh a a uh technician status
technical
So he was part of the union and everything so there was this guy
Miguel Angel que ve who owned la revista wemia and he and he was you know, he was a very wealthy man
And he actually supported the revolution
So right after the revolution, you know, when Castro came into power
He threw a big party at his ranch for the employees and for fidel
you los miliciano, you know
uh
So fidel was there and
And so, you know at that time he had not declared himself a a
Marxist-Leninist yet. He was just fidel Castro, you know, revolution revolutionary, you know
So, you know, it wasn't like like a real
scary situation because
You know things were
Just this is right after the revolution and then after that he started making all those speeches and the country went until in the whole different
Direction and that's when she became very very scary
Yeah, the first people that we knew that actually left the country were chinese
that were
in our neighborhood, you know, the ones that owned the
Los chinos, you know, they had the uh the fruit stand
They had the chinese restaurant the laundromat the laundry all of that because they came to cuba from from china
running away from communism
And when one's Castro, you know, they clear himself a communist and said we're out of here
And they just made out for uh, they lived for san francisco, you know to do in 1960. It was one of the biggest china towns
Yeah, but a china town in cuba. I thought some people stayed and fidel left them alone
Suppose I didn't know what was going on, you know, I
I reconnected with my sister
and one conversation we had
We had a conversation about a time period when I found the letter that they wrote, you know
And then I couldn't believe what I was reading. I cannot believe the words I was reading
And I'm asking my sister. How was it being raised and she goes
It was all according to how much money your mom sent that month, you know
And uh
Like I just
I still remember like those years
Where there was kind of when my mother had to sell the bar
And she couldn't send as much money as they they could that was one of the letters they sent
And I asked my sister about and she goes, you know, there was a time where they were just
turning
This whole island against you guys
She goes it was just terrible way. It was they were on top of us and then when I met my cousins
For lunch dinner one night after a spot at the improv right here on
They were telling me like what what it was like to grow up and have to hide albums
When they first got led zeppelin four would stay away to heaven just
Jesus fucking christ
It's just uh weird to hear
It was really eye-opening watching that sell your show because
When I go to Portland, I want to meet with an attorney up there friend of mine a dear friend of mine
And maybe we can put this warrant thing away and I could go to cuba and see my sister because my sister won't leave
And then I haven't seen my sister since I was three years old. I can't die and not see my sister
Lee you're right over there. You're over there fucking mumbo stumbling by yourself everything all right over there, like I'm doing fine
I'm just I'm just it's a
It's a crazy country
It's weird to my my aunt and uncle are going next week now for our vacation. So now it's totally open
You should go with them and take a hundred stars and just 200 stars a Canadian tourist, you know what I'm saying
Take a couple kilos do something cocksucker
Let me give some shout outs here real quick. Tom swab
current Michael. I love you
Jeff tell him in newly one love Alex Castino Hugo Toppin
Dr. Nick Balovitch
ookey spooky
Bob Lillengas and his family and the rest of the church goddamn family. I love you guys
Happy Thanksgiving
One thing before the show I asked you about the resurgence of music
the resurgence of music because
The music business has changed so much over the last few years
That everything changed like they started
Not having record sales
So bands had a tour for the labels to make money. Is that correct something like that something
They're not making money off records. I don't know what I heard. So no, I I I make the least
From my catalog from from record sales or even download
I make the most I mean from other sources streaming sources or
We actually now get paid for non-terrestrial
performances on records that you are signed to the record deal
Like for example, I was signed to all the record deals for choir riot
So I every time a choir from from the record from the from the metal health record or conditioned critical record
The song gets played on the radio as a performer
I make money on that
That that was not the rule as a performer
And on the radio on the radio, you know, non-terrestrial, which means like spotify serious exam all that stuff
Not the the ones with antennas
but you know computer satellite radio and stuff like that and
You know, that's it kind of like balances it out. It makes up for it
But I would say most of the income today
Is not from catalog is actually from sometimes getting your music placed in a movie or television or advertising
and also for performing live
and VIP meets and greets
And merchandising and that money is actually allocated towards your your cost your overhead for transportation
You know, even if you have a bus or you're flying or your hotels or playing paying for the crew and so on
It's not, you know, it's it's money that you must make in order to break even or make, you know, some sort of profit
Well
over the years
You know, when I was growing up, uh, you went to see, uh
Uh
Michael Jackson four nights at the middle ends and he just did four at the at the garden
For a couple years that live shows it seemed like the numbers were going down
And all of a sudden I guess these promoters put all these bands together
And said listen fuck all this shit. Let's get for you motherfuckers together and take it out there old school
The market's out there. The market's out there. You know, oh, yeah, absolutely. And you're active and you're fucking
Uh
You're out there again and all of a sudden all these bands these resurgence and I think it's great
You know bad company tour this year. Like I said Peter Gabriel tour with fucking sting
Yeah, that was a great tour. Who would have thought, you know, we were talking about how
Poison and death leopards going out, you know, all these bands and I'm like your phone must be fucking ringing really
You know, I'm actually uh doing gigs with a band called the guess who?
You know american woman
And it's uh, it's it's great. I'm having a wonderful time. It's uh, we do a lot of civic
auditoriums
theaters
casinos
So yeah, I smell. Yeah, it's not it's not a club band. It's a it's a classic rock
You know, uh established group and people will go see them. Yeah, like people like me would go. What the fuck
Let's go american woman is one of my jams. I'm gonna jump out of window
Oh, absolutely. And I gotta tell you that the whole set is packed with hits
They had 17 hits top 40 hits in their in their history
And I'm beginning to learn a little bit about that about that circuit because
Uh, most of the bands that I've played with in the past have been, you know, what they call 80s bands, you know
And that that's a whole different, you know hierarchy
But the hierarchy with classic rock bands, for example, we did a show with with the with three dope night
So whoever goes on
The headliner is decided by who had the most hits
Through the night had like 21 top 40 hits
So they guess who we open up for them because we only had 17
You know, so it's that's the way that they weigh things, you know, it's all about how many songs on hit songs on the radio
You actually had which makes sense. Yeah. Fuck it. Well, I fuck around. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly
Yeah, yeah, but but the thing is if you go to the 80s bands
No, you know, I mean who had 21 top 40 singles from an 80s band
You know, maybe a banjo be maybe got close to that. I would you know, I mean, I'm talking about rock bands
And because they were mainly we saw, you know, we used to sell records albums and that would be about two or three
singles or that wouldn't even singles there were MTV videos
You know with white snake in 1987 for the 87 record
We had four videos which meant that we were able to tour for about a year and a half
On that record because we first went out as an opening band for for for motley crew
Then we came back around again playing basically the same market as a headliner
and then we
That was in the winter and then we did the summer tour and then we went to, you know, europe and
Asia and you know, whatever
So it was it was a little bit different that the classic rock bands. It's based on top 40
Billboard hits
No MTV videos
You didn't have the days on
Another illusion. I thought you replaced
Two people together. I'm singing Chicago. It's another band. That's the other band. Yeah. How many hits they got 40?
Yeah, they went through it. Oh my god. Yeah, I mean, but the singer's not there. Peter satara is not there. It's not there. Uh,
Actually, they had three singers. They have the fucking horn sounds tremendous. Yeah. Yeah, I saw them do some hall of fame show and they did, uh
2506 24 whatever fucking off. Yeah
One section. Yeah, they had three lead singers, uh, bobby lamb robber lamb
piece of terror and terry cath
And then they brought in another, uh,
Another lead vocalist into the band, you know, and
Yeah, it's it's all about the songs, you know, with that classic rock
You know market
I saw
somebody
One of those fucking jerks. I have yahoo.com
And I scrolled down one day and somebody wrote, uh
The top
touring bands of a genre
Without the original members
And you know me. I'm a music guy rudy. I'm looking at this
And I saw the numbers they'd known, you know, and if one guy left
You know, uh, we're back company. I think there was two guys from the original band
Yes, there was somebody touring with nobody original
It was something crazy the kid's son put the band together his friends. I don't even know what the fuck was going on
Actually with that company, it's up until recently. It's three members. You have, uh,
Simon Kirk drums, uh, make ralphs on guitar and paul rogers on vocals
Who was the old bass player for them? Uh, boss burrell
I did a radio show in chicago with the guitar player
Yeah, make ralphs. Yeah, very nice guy
but it's crazy how
I read the article
I looked at it from the fucking writers perspective
How he was trying to blow these people out of the water type of deal
But I looked at it from a different perspective. Look at the numbers they're doing
When I go see those guys, it's about nostalgia, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. It's about that song they did when I used to finger bang that chick behind the fucking carvel
Yeah, the dead of the winter and either the night
Yeah, absolutely. So I could see how for me I would go to more of them
I went to one at the hollywood bow from the 80s with Cindy Lauper and somebody else and somebody else
My wife got the tickets. We said, what the fuck?
You had the cab drop us off right next to the joint
So we'd have to be walking up the hill from franklin. You know what I'm saying? That's how you do it
You're a bad thing ship. Well, how you doing over there?
I'm pretty sure the agenda the rest of the day. Yeah, the day's pretty much over once this is done. What are you doing tonight?
tonight, uh, I don't know
You're gonna bleach your eyeballs and bring them back to light. Look at those things. Oh my god. Yeah
See I told you in the afternoon you want to mess around with uncle joey
I'm like the wood tank like you know what I'm saying
May be if I get out in time, maybe I'll go to uh
racita
What's a racita black horse dark horse? Oh, that's right. I said black horse. I got a spot to store. I think
Oh, okay. Cool. I got a spot to store. I'm gonna go home and hang out with the family and stuff like that
What's your schedule looking like Tarzan talk to me?
Are you meeting up?
What is the next guest who?
In december
I believe ninth or tenth. Yeah, we got three more shows and they're basically in the Dakotas
Because in the wintertime, that's exactly where you want to be. You know, we got three
Listen when I go in the where I go in the winter I go in the winter there for a reason
Do you know what I'm saying?
If you're gonna go there
Yeah, if you're going in the summer and they're gonna be the same type of party. Yeah, exactly
When you go to Buffalo, you're gonna go in january and don't go to Buffalo. Yeah, yeah, that's true
Right that I'm telling you this is my perspective. That's true. When I go to new york city. I go november or september
I do that for a reason. I don't want to be in miami in august
I want to be miami in october. Yeah, the dolphins are winning everybody's happy. You know what I'm saying
Uh, there's certain places you want to go at certain times of the year. Yeah, uh, detroit
You want to go in detroit in january? Yeah, if you're gonna rock the house. Fuck it. If not, you end up like the singer
Fuck it. Yeah, and that's true because uh early on I learned, you know from touring with azi
We used to do a lot of uh winter tours and that was because there was less traffic
Less bands, you know, like if you go out in the summer, everybody's on the road
You go out in the winter time everybody is back home, you know
Resting from having too much turkey after christmas and and then you're out there. You're cleaning up because there's there's no competition
You know, you're you're the only game in town
Basically, but there's also a strategy for me
Now today's economy
In today's economy once november the second week in november starts. I don't fly eastbound
Until mid january
I do not touch lax till mid january the last week of january now
I have a thousand reasons for that
I don't want to be that asshole because every year we sit there
Christmasy full
It's over. You're happy and you're watching world news tonight and they show you
Millions of strand millions of airplanes stranded for the holidays sleeping on cots
Yelling at the fucking lady at delta. Yeah, so I made it a fucking habit
The first week of december is it for me number two. I'm an R rated actor
They have a lot of christmas parties starting the second week of december
Why fuck around why take a chance? You know what I'm saying? The club owners are very nice to me. I understand
I get it the week for me to go back is december 26
That's when satan comes out. That's when everybody wants to get their dicks. Like they got a new pair of socks
They got a new pair of pants. That's an uncle joey shows up to your town. That's a good week, but i'm very lazy now, rudy
I'm scared of flying with snow and delays and all that shit
Then the holidays makes people crazy. There's always a plane that goes off the track and fucking o' hara
Right and the train can't the plane can't stop. It takes the fucking
It takes the fucking burger king signed down in left field
You know, why be a part of that can of the airport gets crazy
You want to go home for what to do what to make 2003 fourth time? It's not worth your life
It's not worth being stuck on an airport for a day and a half. It really isn't you know, I'm saying mom
I love you. I'll see you the last week of january with a bigger gift than I was they get you in december
Because it gives me two weeks to clean up that visa card. You know I'm saying and I can start all over again
That just for me. I don't like those weeks. Yeah right now. I go to portland next week
And the party's over. I go to portland december 1st 2nd and 3rd
And when I come back right and I go out of burbank
Oh, yeah, that's it. I'll leave you my phone give me and I fly back into the burbank
And that's the last time because you also need to you don't need to break from travel. You also need to break from airports
So don't put me at like seven weeks. I don't see a fucking airport
That gives me a complete break and I'm not flying in the danger zone time of the year. Listen, don't get me wrong
A plane could go down in the summertime in october november. That's not what I'm scared of
I'm scared of delays. I'm scared of
Last week li and I had a drive from
Boston to Connecticut
And I didn't think about it till I got back into my bed that night. How much that bothered me that night
I don't like driving with strangers really sorry, so
Something doesn't click on me if that's shit. I don't want to be a movie star. I want to drive the fucking car. You know what I'm saying
I don't know who you are. I'm not one of those p. I don't know. I don't know whether it's a limo or a cab driver
that type of distance
You know when I come back in january listen unless I get a fucking sled dog
I'm not doing boston to fucking Connecticut and fucking january, you know, there's just things that you look at yourself and you go
I don't really need to do this
at this point in my life
I used to fly the buffalo in
January between you and I because of my love for buffalo
It's a connecting flight
If that wasn't a connecting flight to somewhere else, I wouldn't fucking go
You know what I'm saying? I really like buffalo when I go to Buffalo. I feel like home for two three days
I feel like home. I like the wings. I like the blue cheese
That's the way it is, you know I'm saying I'll go to Detroit and fucking january test me
I'll go to any part of michigan and fucking january. I love all that type of shit
But that holiday travel booty
That shit ain't for me puppy
That's when they lose luggage. You got a kilo in the suitcase
Now you gotta go get tense max to the face and the other tell the story. I don't know what happened
I left the store. This was smiling. You know what I'm saying?
Fuck you
Fuck you
I don't want to see nobody that bad for the holidays
I went to new york last year. I left on the 9th. I came back on the 13th with my family
The plane deal we got
was sensational
We could not believe the tickets we had on virgin
Because that's the time of the year to really dig it
That's your last chance to fly cheap nobody flies
Between the 9th and the 13th or 14th. That's when the christmas travel starts on the 15th
The plane tickets went down the hotel tickets went down
I took them like put them in edge water
We went over the city every day in the ferry like movie stars and shit
We walked though went to see the tree and we came back before the christmas rush
It's a very nice time and I want to work now. I was with my family next time I work in new york or something
I know that's still pretty cool
But that's possibly the last week I'll work after that
I don't like that christmas travel brother. What about you lee? You don't fly during yam kapoor
So you don't give a fuck jack
Lee don't fly during jewish holidays. He told me this years ago
But you don't want the people to know because he feels embarrassed. Yeah, I feel very embarrassed
I've but I've never been able
I've never been able to go home for Thanksgiving. I've always wanted to but like it's not really the biggest one
Like that's why I I tended to go home
during december
Because Thanksgiving wasn't huge, but it's too expensive like a lot of people try to go back for both
And it would be like 600 bucks and I couldn't do it
So, uh, I have like I've been here like six years. I think
I haven't been able to go back
But then again
Who wants to get stuck in that on in that so it's already snowed dog. Oh, yeah
It's already snowed. Did you see that already? Yeah two days. I was talking to justin
And he was asking me how about you going here that week and I go dog
You know, that's one of my dangers on weeks. I don't go into dangerville those weeks
He goes, what are you talking about? It never snows there these type of the year. Good dog. I grew up there
Who the fuck do you think you're dealing with? All right, mother nature sends you a zing in november
It's called being direct. I talked to him yesterday. He said dog. I had to leave new york. It was so fucking cold
Yeah, we're california people dog. Yeah, that skin melts
It's an it's you know, I had to turn the heat on this morning. I was embarrassed
47 degrees. We got to turn heat on and you should mom tarry. She comes in. Why why why turn the heat i'm freezing in here
Fucking go to new york at this age. How fucking collapse really saw so I've been living like a doctor out here in the sunlight
Rubbing number two on my legs, you know going to drink coffee
I'm gonna go shovel snow. What do people die doing shoveling fucking snow. That's what I want to do
Yeah, I can't do it now. I thought about colorado the the snow's a little light. I would consider like
A southern town. I hear those southern part of colorado is really booming
What about in new york city you would have to shovel?
listen
Leave me alone
Leave me alone. We're gonna bother me. I just told you I don't want to live in that cold weather where I have to shovel or not
You know why there's a thousand angles widely
I can't see at this age getting out of your fucking house where your chunk let us on in your robe
And have to turn your fucking car on full blast heat
Sit there like a fucking frozen midget
Then clean off the windshield and go in your house and get dressed and by the time you come out your car is warmed up
I can't imagine doing this at this age where these cars are you tell me the truth. Yeah, I'm done
Really? Yeah, I'm done. Yeah. I thought there was something wrong with me. I've thought about the advantages of moving to new york. Listen
I love new york, but it might hurt that ship sailed
I'm too old for new york
What advantages do I get from new york right now? I could do comedy at two in the morning. I don't want to be out after 10
I'm scared
It's a different world out there. I love playing new york
It's to me. It's a oh, I love going to go to Gotham. I love dog. Yeah, let me show you a picture of pizza
50 yards away. Let me tell you something
There's a type of pizza you eat
If you're I don't give a fuck if you have to go to the hospital from the gluten
You gotta eat this when you're in new york
Just have the ambulance just cut it in with chris missy. Go chris. Listen the pizza down the corner
I'm gonna eat a slice part of our contract is we got to split the ambulance
And what I got to get taken right to the hospital
To uh
This pizza
Destroyed my insides. I was like this is
I was just walking minding my own business whistling down the street. You know me really size
I don't bother nobody and I look over to the side and lo and behold
Look at this
50 yards away that's a lot of gluten
Yeah, but don't dairy don't matter you go to the hospital
It's all right
And it's it's glowing
It's like, you know what it looks like those
The food that you know when you go to japan
They'll they'll have the menu in a in like in a shelf
Outside of the restaurant like like replicas plastic replicas of food
And they actually sometimes looks better than the food that you get inside the restaurant
Uh, this is what it reminds me of. No, I took that picture. That's no fucking replica
What else they got here they got the slice they got the stromboli with the
Stromboli
They got everything in this place, man. Wow
They are two italians four mexicans, but it's all right. It all balances out at the end of the day
Lisa yeah, how you doing over there? You seeing the devil, aren't you?
You never thought uncle joey's gonna take it deep into the murky waters
At two in the afternoon one thing I've learned from you rudy is you have to take care of yourself
I'm looking at you know, like this guy
Is uh, it's a savage
You're a savage
Gotta take care of yourself. You know, it's it's going on the road. It's it's hard. Oh my god
It gets harder every three weekends you go
Yeah, and you and I you know, we're not like athletes
In the sense that you know, let's say you're derrick jeter
You have a bad a bad game
You know, you strike out four times during the game, right next day
The stadium yankee stadium is gonna be filled again
No problem, right
You and I if we have one bad show people ain't coming back
It's done. You come back and you're half empty, you know room
You know, so every night you get you have to be you have to hit a grand slam every single night
You get and you have to be in shape for that. You can't be sick. You can't be feeling ill or tired
I
Got it's it's it's so funny how you learn for me one of the biggest lessons were
And people get upset with me is I don't smoke pot with people on the road
That's the biggest fucking road to fucking an ammonia
Especially when you travel a lot
I don't mingle too much
Uh, people want to hug you they're coughing. That's okay, but I won't smoke pot
Which it's amazing how many people come up to your coffin and they want to smoke pot when you're like dog
I gotta go do a movie next week and do this and they're like no no
I had an ammonia, but it went away. I went to the doctor. You're like dog. It don't matter
um
I get a lot of sleep on the road man
I don't do a lot of movement on the road really so I so
I'm gonna be strictly unless you I fucked around
In my career for 16 years
I go on the road for no money and I act like an asshole on stage
I'd have a set list, but I wouldn't
I didn't really care what they thought
I was a comedy store comic and I was happy with that
I would open up for Joe Rogan
And I would do well in those shows because Joe would pay me well, so I had to do well and be a little prepared
But I didn't really get it till I started headline
That's what people realizing people paying 20 dollars to come in to see me
How important it is for me
To be in a certain shape
A certain state of mind
I got a bat 60 percent because even if I bat 60 I could turn that into 80
Do you follow me? We have tricks
I have tricks to confuse you
comically
Where even if the closer doesn't work
The his first 30 minutes are really hilarious
You know, there's rooms I go to now that I'm not connecting with them
The first 35 minutes are really
And all of a sudden I twist it on them and I turn my energy on them
And I focus on the last 15 and three quarters of the room gives me a standing ovation
Even though I ain't shift for 35 minutes
I have tricks. I've been doing it for 25 fucking years. You know what I'm saying? I'm a hooker
You know, I could do to your dick
I could lick it, slide it on fire suck the blowhard out of your ass show you your kidney
You know, I could do a doctor's test better than he can
I'll let you know what you got before the doctor. You got a certain taste in your sperm
You're missing some fucking carrot juice
Lee wake up cocksucker
Look at the shape of you. Lee. Well, you need another star. Lee. That's what the problem is. I might. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Look at the shape of you, but uh, we and you know what I'm talking about Rudy. So you see what music with singers
A singer a singer will come out and say guys by the way, I don't know what the fuck you're thinking
Those motley crude days are over. We're lowering it from 16 to 3. You know what I'm saying?
I got a sound whatever and you go see them and you know, the singer's struggling
This is 20 fucking years ago
Yeah, but even when the singer's struggling, you know, the more struggling the singer goes through the bigger
The explosions and the light show on stages is deflecting. There you go
I do the same we as comedians
We do the exact same thing
if if
Thomas Ward used to have a great joke that he had a little dick
So whenever he fucked he made shit happen in the room like he'd break a window and he'd break a lamp
And he hit it with a shoe and shit, you know, I don't know what the joke was
But basically that he would he would detract her from having sex there, you know
as a comedian
This night I go up there and I can't believe what's happening really. So I was like, you know what I'm talking about
This night's why you're on stage. Even if I say hello
They puke him with laughter
And there's nights. They don't laugh for the first time minutes. I got to twist it on them and take them down a different dungeon
I got to show them a different fucking coffin. You know what I'm saying? You got to take them somewhere else
And even though that wasn't that wasn't the fucking schedule
That wasn't the plan. How long does it take you to realize that?
10 minutes
I just did three shows. I'm not I'm just saying uh
Uh, I'm I'm talking about a situation here. I just did three shows
These people on the way out they were calling ambulances. They couldn't breathe
Okay, I taped the show with lee
I listened to it
Now when I listen to it, I know what to say and how to say it
I just learned that now after 25 years because he started taping my sets before I started taping the special
I did the exact same set the second night
The exact same first eight nine ten twelve minutes
Anything going nowhere
And I said a specific line that wasn't a curse
And they it really didn't go nowhere and then I flipped it
And I told the story to bring them down to level
Let me bring you down to my level. Let me tell you what I go through
You know when I was 28, I did this this this this and this you take them to a specific situation
Now I get them laughing from a different corner of their heart
You follow me now i'm getting them so we have current current, but guess what?
Well, I'm telling that story and I'm telling trying to tell that story to form
I'm really trying to fucking think about what's going to come out of my mouth next
So I could keep these motherfuckers alive now
I'm resuscitating them little by little that woman that was staring at me like I kicked a kid in the mouth
She's laughing now. She's actually giggling at my jokes
Even though I throw a pussy joke at it and now
You think about the next move and if you could think of your next three steps
That quickly you got them
We'll worry about the next three steps when we get to them
Let me worry about the next three steps
Now I know exactly where the fuck i'm going
You know, I started hanging around comedians when when I met uh, uh, sam kinnison
We had the same management
You know as when I was in white snake here
We have you know, we share we share a lot, you know
As far as the business goes and I got to play on his record because of that because we had you know
The management called me and said, hey, you know, you can you be tomorrow at the studio and do this song
Wild thing with sam and then from that on and you know, we we became really close friends
Hung out with the family, you know malika his wife and and sabrina and you know
So we have a really really strong relationship, but
Along with sam came
All the other comedians, you know
Uh, he had the uh the the outlaws of comedy. She'll be you know, call it a bow
Stevens, you know, all of that by the clock. Yeah, all of that and jimmy. What's his name jimmy, uh
Not shuber jimmy shuber jimmy shuber. Yeah
And so, you know, that was kind of like my my my introduction to to comedy world, you know
And I gotta tell you you you know, I I saw a lot of shows uh with sam
He used to go and try his material in pawn springs and I used to have a house out there and sam would love to
rent out Elvis's home
In pawn springs
So he would stay there and then go down to the local comedy club and just do do shows, you know
Then I would bring him over over to my house and mess them up with like
These drinks that I used to make scorpions and then he would do the next show
Oh, it's just blood completely gone. You know, meanwhile, sabrina was recording everything, you know, and
I I really
Gained so much respect for you guys
Because you guys you you can't really deflect. There's just you with a microphone and the audience
You got nothing. You don't have a drum solo. It's such a shit going wrong
You're okay drum solo or guitar solo or a wawa. You don't even have a wawa
You know, it's like it's you with your dick in your hand up there
In front of the stage one light on you most of the time and the audience and that's it
And it's not like, you know, like you have a bit, you know, like we
We know how to pace our set list because we're going to put like a song that the crowd is familiar with
And then we throw another hit like three songs into the set
Then we finish the do a finish with a strong song and then the encore is the song everybody's waiting for
You know, so, you know, we kind of like we're holding the the the audience
You know, like like, you know at ransom here because they they want to hear certain songs
With you guys, you come up with new stuff all the time
I'm not laughing at you
Fuck I just fell over
He passed out
He's been passing out for a while. Yes, he did. Yes. I'm gonna do it. I'm sorry. Oh, that's right. People passing out. It's
2016
So, so, you know, like I was saying I'm really really impressed with how you guys are able to every single night
Be able to handle that
It's amazing. I mean, I saw sam get up on stage
Doing like two shows in one night like he did a whole weekend at ceasar's palace in the big ballroom
and
The second night he hadn't slept from the night before
You know, he stayed up partying
And he would just hit the stage
Now we were hanging out at in his suite and we knew how messed up he was
But as soon as he hit that stage, he was spot on and he had the crowd
Right there the crowd was cheering for him even before he opened his mouth
You know, like like what you're saying, you know, you could just grunt into the microphone and people would be fucking laughing if I
The night I got to ceasar's palace if I went up the first night
I know there's a package waiting for me afterward
That's the best show you ever gonna see if I know there's a suite
I know that 99 percent somebody's gonna lick my nuts and put a firecracker in my asshole
I know i'm gonna party with rudy and god knows who else
Those two shows are gonna be the best show you've ever seen in your life
But I gotta be in bed by five
And I gotta get up and I gotta sweat a little bit
And I gotta write
And the first show that night is gonna be a little rusty
The second show is gonna be great
If I stay up all night and go to the show
You better give me that money back
You better give me that money back like I would never even plan a binge
If I had a big show the next night and open my a 50 dollar show. Yeah, fuck that
I couldn't even because
My heart wouldn't be connected with my head
There were so many times in miami. I was committed to the weekend and it was so horrible rudy because
I went from a comic with a motion
To a
Press here
And I could see the audience knew it
Think they laughed
But it wasn't what the joke was because there was no emotion in the joke
I became when we went to the Wilbur
I got a big time anxiety
Attack when I first walked off the stage. There was a lot of people then if you ask lee
The first two minutes at the Wilbur. I was very rigid
I
Didn't try to move around too much so I didn't have to breathe that much
So I wouldn't pass out on stage in front of fucking a thousand people
So the first two or three minutes, even if you listen to it, uh
You'll feel my tone and everything and all of a sudden once I became animated
Was when the room changed
Once the arms start moving the whole fucking deal and pa pa pa pa. That's it
That's when I start
Pulling them in but if I just stand there in front of my microphone like I'm gonna recite the fucking uh
Apocrymation mockumation whatever the fuck that is
Apocrymation poculeate whatever that Abe Lincoln
It's not gonna work out for me
I gotta move I gotta get involved
You know
Little shit like that. I started doing this joke and one day lee pulled me over
And he goes hey man, uh
I like when you do this little thing and that little thing gets a tremendous laugh
I did it one night on stage because I was high
And I had eight people in the audience and I was living myself and you know, uh
Just uh
You learned so much in 25 years really so as well. I don't have to tell you
I know. Yeah, I don't have to tell you. I love the guy that walks up to you now and goes. Amen
You mind the way back then dude, you know, I've been playing for six years
I played just like you or whatever and
The first 10 minutes of the conversation is very interesting
But the next 10 minutes he's kind of not
Putting you down, but he's
talking in a way like uh
He's trying to do something to you now
If you were back with randy god bless his soul and ozzy
You might have punched him in the fucking mouth really sorry, so you know the type i'm talking about
But because who you are who you are today you look at him
You say a prayer for him. Yeah, and as you walk away you predict this future you go
I'll give this fucking bum three years. You don't tell nobody because you're a decent person
And you call it right every time
From the way they came up to you and approached you. Do you follow me you ever had that?
You know what i'm talking about. I get it. I get it. Yeah, it's it's uh
But I love when a comic comes up to me and tries to
Speak a certain way to me
You know
And 20 years ago I would have kicked him in the stomach, but knowing who I am today. I look at him
And I could tell by his attitude
Where he's gonna end up just because he's moving too fast
I know before this even gets going this is gonna fall apart
He's gonna take him a few years to get back on this because of this attitude that he's showing towards me
You know what i'm saying? Yeah, like I've been doing this for fucking 25 years
You've been doing it for four and somebody liked you at a festival. That's two different fucking worlds
I've been banging out at the store for fucking
15 fucking years following paul mooney and joe rogan
Tonight i gotta follow arisha fee. We think that's like these guys are explosive in 15 fucking minutes. You go down there
Follow fucking delir see what happens to you you go down there with a base
With a fucking chick that lights herself on fire and they'll just look at you really so so that's how strong delir
You know you learn how to navigate yourself after all those acts
You could do two things you could take that energy
That they left on stage
Do something good with it talk well about the comment that just came up
And flow with his energy and now you stole the show or
You could fight that energy and try to be a fucking wise ass
And try to say something sarcastic about that act
And the audience shuts down on you like a fucking
Like uh, I don't even know what to compare it to i'm so fucking high right now
It happens in music too because we got you know at one point at some point you're the opening band or some point you are the headliner
So it's exactly the same thing, you know the opening band sometimes you can write on the energy of the opening band, you know
Because the opening band actually gets to warm up, you know the audience
And then you actually matter of fact if you if if if the opening band has a certain energy
You might shift your your your opening song
To maybe a higher energy so you can actually match
The way that they ended because the last thing you want to do is to drop down the energy
If they really end up with a high energy song the lesson you come in with like a mid tempo
Even though it might be a well-known song
But all of a sudden you're like
Bring in all that
That energy down and you don't want to do that. I've been to concerts so fucking fired up really
And the band has come out
The opening band has been fucking fantastic
The headline has come out. He opened up tremendous. There's lights
The guitars are great. The drums are on fire. It sounds like the album
They got you the second song is fantastic. The third song is fantastic
And then somebody's ego gets in the way
And they do two or three ballads in a row
No two ballads and this is a song off our new album. Well, you just fucking stabbed me in the neck. You fuck
Okay, I don't want to hear a song from the new album
And I don't want to hear this fucking ego fest that you did you had me you had me
You fucking had me. I'll tell you what band killed me. We'll like that
Nazareth
I went to see Nazareth June 6
Of 19
Maybe 81 at the Palladium
They did a version of cocaine acoustic
Oh, yeah, it's like with me at them. Yeah
But after that, I don't know what happened
They did like they opened up with hair of the dog now you're messing with the son of a bitch
That just blows the room up. You open up with that song the room just goes fucking ape shit
Then they did another big energy one
Forget about it. Then they did that one. They swear. Let's switch up the gears a little bit
This is one of our favorites from Mary Clapton
And they had fucking like six guitars. Everybody had a guitar and dog. I gotta tell you right off the bat. It was brilliant
Brilliant. I wasn't even that much into every clap. I knew the song cocaine. It was brilliant
And then they started singing like a song about a girl they met in Cleveland
And after that, you just want to pull the plug
You can't do this to me. You can't do this to but the girl in Cleveland
We're having a good time here. My friend just bought a grandma blow and you want to fucking throw this nightmare into the shell
I've been in a few bands that during our
Our opening band stage, you know in our career
Yeah, I would I would say it was it was pretty frightening to have to follow
With Ozzy we were opening up for Saxon
in
in Europe
And it was a 45 minute set and I gotta tell you it was the most intense 45 minutes of your life
And for anybody to have to follow that, I don't care who you are
It was it was just like how are you gonna do this, right? The next one was actually well, it was quite a riot
It was pretty good
Even though the headliners that we work with they were you know, especially zz top zz top was the hardest band ever
to open up for
Because it has the most dedicated audience. They're fanatic, you know, they all the way they're there for zz top
They don't care who you are, you know, like we're talking about you don't care about who the opening band is, you know
There are certain time
Then one snake we were an opening band and I gotta tell you by the time you finish with still of the night
I think it's pretty much over
You know, I don't care who's gonna follow the band, you know, it was that strong. It was that strong. I was yeah
Yeah, that's strong. Okay in the 45 minute
I was going to a lot of concerts back then. I'm trying to write a book now
And I don't even know there's parts of me that wants to break it down
But there's parts of me to the highlight of my concert career
What the fuck was I gonna ask you god damn it
So you was talking about 45 minutes of on z in those days in the 45 minutes set
Yeah, I mean you guys turn the shades down and you opened up a mr. Crowley
right
We opened up with I don't know actually it was the the diary of the madman tour
Version because the raker had just come out in europe. Okay, so we were probably opening up with uh
With over the mountain which is really intense anyways
This is the second tour the one I saw in new york city. Uh the one after the palladium
Okay, no the one I saw after new year the one I saw at the palladium. Yeah, you either opened up with I don't know
We opened up without or no, but that was the following tour
Okay, so that was the when I saw you at the palladium with the jopen up. I don't know. Yeah
Because I remember it was there was no over them. He did something for he he fucking stopped through
No, but the palladium. Yeah, it was you guys had like yeah, we did believer right and we did a flying high again flying high
From the record that was not released yet. Yeah
But that was long in the 45 minutes
Oh, yeah, no because we were headlining, but I'm talking about 45 45 minutes tell me the 45 minutes set in the beginning
I we're I you know, I could just see
Again, I can just see the first three and the side a yeah side a is is a fucking monster side b is the monster
The the ballad would have been just uh revelation mother earth mother earth which is tremendous. It goes into steel
Tremendous. Tremendous. Yeah, tremendous. Tremendous. Yeah, it was just insane 45 minutes. So what they did is they they shortened
Tommy Eldridge's drum solo tremendous
You know that was too much and it was packed packed with like high intensity playing and music. Yeah, it was insane
Yeah, yeah, and it was great because we we were good off the stage by nine o'clock the latest a 8 30 maybe
Get into rental rental cars and with Tommy
Randy and me we hit the autobahn and we'll be in the next town before the club opened
In in the in the hotel. So we were just partying right after right after the show in the next city
You know, germany, we're just getting on the autobahn. Tommy is an incredible driver
So we hit about 160 miles an hour and we were like in less than two hours in the next town
Yeah
insane party our asses off
I still remember the back of the Palladium that night
I got there with my buddies and I knew a spot. There was a place that you walked and there was a fence
But there was a cut in the fence
And you knew that if you walked back there you walked behind one of the buildings
And that's where the cool people that were going to the concert were party
That's where they'd be like six or seven broads and the people were doing little bumps and shit
and I still remember going back then and walking in and
Jesus that was so long ago. I was a fucking kid really so so
I was a fucking kid
lost
Kid a fucking lost kid with four other fucking lost motherfuckers
Was Pino there?
No, by that time Pino Crowley was there. I moved to Miami Crowley was there
I went with this kid Diddy Contaro
Now, I don't know if it was that concert
Or the second one at the metalands where we leave the show and his shirt is ripped
And we go Diddy what happened? He goes, let me tell you what happened
I'm sitting there running my own business and some guy came behind me started dry humping me
So I go, what did you do? He goes, I just beat the fuck out of him right there in the show and they threw me out
I've been waiting for you guys to get out for a ride home. I don't know if it's the Palladium
or the other one
Oh my god, but I had seen like
So this is when you came to the Palladium was 81 82
81 okay, so 81 so at that time
I had seen
three or four shows in the Palladium
Listen, I don't go to a lot of shows Rudy. You know, I almost went to Sabbath. We had to go to new york that night
But I'll tell you how lucky I was man. I was lucky enough to see
I asked you when you walked in here what that place seated
And you told me about 12 to 1500 maybe 1600 that they were standing
I was in there
for four shows
That are still etched in my mind that it's the reason why
I saw such great shows there
That I know in my heart nothing will be really size up
I saw Iron Maiden there in the first album with paul de annum
They went in there and opened up for Judas Priest. I think
Then I went back then saw
Def Leppard open up the Judas Priest another time
Then I went in there and saw you fucking sabbages in there
then
I went in there and saw ac dc with brian johnson
On this second night of their fucking tour at the Palladium in new york city
It was august 2nd and it was a thousand fucking degrees. Do you understand me?
Well, I went home that night even after the bus ride
My jeans were fucking drenched really so so
And I and I went to see james brown. They were also
And they were all not about the show the shows were always money
Judas Priest in a small place
You guys were randy roads
In a fucking theater. I want america to think about what i'm talking about here
Think about when you go to a movie theater now
When you go to a fucking big movie theater now that was the Palladium
I don't remember if they had a balcony. I think they did this video on youtube from that show
I don't remember if they had a balcony
But the sound was sensational in there
Rudy I got to fucking sit there with my jaw dropped
I saw my buddy from the fucking projects in 64th street
Take his hat off
Throw it up on stage at angus young
Angus young bent over picked it up
Put it on and then threw it back in the audience me and my homies from jersey almost fucking died
Do you understand me? I mean, I don't need that. I saw shit in there that
Was just too good
People freak out now when I talk to people and I go I went to see Ozzie to play. I'm like, no shit
It wasn't the show. It was the experience
Me and these two guys probably went and copped a gram of blow
And we used to get that in those days. You got the bottle with the spoon at the end
We used to go to union city to east west and they sold its uh
Drug paraphernalia. They're still there rudy so so
Back in the day. We had the mcdonald's coffee little spoons
Oh my god, you never use one of those
I never went to mcdonald's
We went there just for the spoons when you're doing blow who goes to mcdonald's, you know what i'm saying
Rudy always a pleasure to see you man. You too coco
Happy samgiri, bro. Oh, yeah, happy samgiri
I'm gonna read some ads and I'll get you out. They give me some ads lee. What the fuck my brother lee is jacked up tonight
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sir
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You slow cook that motherfucker got up every hour on the hour
Throw a piece of butter on it and rub it in there with your little fingers with a glove on who's better than you
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You do that fucking thing you learn from those chef shows you stick the fucking needle in it
I know you got a show on dvr or you got a yelp
And they teach you how to get the thing you stabbed it the fucking turkey with the stick
And it tells you if it's cooked inside don't look at me like uh, like you don't know what i'm talking about four years of college
This is what i gotta live with you know how to make a turkey
I'm telling you he's gonna get hit with this girlfriend's sick. They're gonna fuck that turkey up. No, paul's making a apology
Yeah, yeah, you listen listen to me. How many turkeys paul are making in life? Yeah, as many as me
Okay, so you trust somebody why don't you you might as well trust me making your fucking turkey
You might as well
Get a gun and fucking shoot yourself because somebody's gonna get sick
Listen, i'm the way home tonight stop at rouse and get the little thing that you stabbed the turkey with
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Uh
Oh, no, i don't know what that is. Oh jesus christ what he says i thought you were like a half a chef
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What do you think about that Lisa? We're gonna put music on Lee. What's your pick?
You took ass for me
Oh
I think I think you moved me
I just came to my mind I thought I'd say that
You make me trust you and it's stuck the knife in my heart
You're a line of fake or untrustable crap, but I think I love you
I love you
You made my heart spin
You took everything
I love you
Oh
Oh
We all got some kind of wild thing and went through our lives and made it hell
Because everybody's had one and you mean nobody likes to lose
And you know she's out there laughing at you
I don't care if it was last week or third grade someone broke your heart
What was our name?
I'll never forgive you
Now you live with yourself
You never loved me
You used to be
I'll never forgive you
I'll never forgive you
Why didn't you tell me you were a demon from hell?
You deserve nothing you're gonna make you lose
I'll never forgive you
Transient, out of work, guys
Guys, you're gonna use you like you used me
Oh
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Oh