Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #457 - Danny Brown

Episode Date: February 21, 2017

Danny Brown, a highly acclaimed rapper who went from Detroit to touring the world, and has also released multiple albums and mixtapes, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. This podcast is b...rought to you by:  Naturebox.com - Go to Naturebox.com/joey for 50% off of your first box.    ZipRecruiter - post your job to 200+ job sites with a single click for free at www.ziprecruiter.com/church     Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.   Recorded live on 02/20/2017.  

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Starting point is 00:01:33 Lisa Yacht kick that mule leak. That's right. When I'm deep in the covers, when I awake I'll see the motherfuckin' heels of blackhead like I own a black suit and a cane like my own. Somebody say take a chill beat, but fuck that shit. There's a nigga trying to chill. Oh shit. That's how the stars make you feel.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Oh shit. It's Hancock suckers. What's going on you bad motherfuckers? Uncle Joey coming at you on a beautiful Monday night. Post my 54th birthday. Nice time at the store. Nice weekend with the family. Went to the school dance.
Starting point is 00:02:14 How was that? Fucking tremendous. High as fuck I walked in there. Not reekin' I ate edibles. I walked in there. I had my hands in my pocket. I didn't bother nobody to church. You know the fucking hoop.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Kids run around and all of a sudden this dad came over and he's like hey man listen to the podcast. He goes I wish I had a flask right now. That's right. You know I started talking to this dude that was an FBI agent. He's married to a Cuban chick. So my kid and hub kid plays together. So I started, my wife told me she goes if he comes over you know he's an FBI guy. He can't fucking say you gotta be cool.
Starting point is 00:02:55 But I talked to him for a long time. He was cool. We both went to the university in Colorado and everything was fine. My daughter was fine till the fucking helium balloon went to the ceiling. And that little bitch lost. My poor little daughter just lost her. Her cheeks got red. She was yelling but you know what?
Starting point is 00:03:14 730 she's done anyway. She's done it 730. Happy new year. Yeah. One point I grabbed her arm. She came over and she goes daddy. And I touched her heart. And you could feel it about to go out of the fucking shirt.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And her eyes were like wiggling. Her cheeks were red. She was fucking going. Do you think they just don't like it? They get a little overwhelmed? They don't know. They don't know. They don't know till they stop and they catch their breath.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And then she had the balloon, the balloon, the balloon. Once her fucking balloon went up to the ceiling. And then everything was good for about 20 minutes. But every five minutes she looked at that fucking balloon. And she tried to figure out a way how to get the balloon. Oh shit. She just took her home. But it was great.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I was in town and I had the opportunity to do that with her. Yeah. That's the most important thing. It was the best part of my week. Yeah. All week I waited for Friday night for that fucking dance. As dumb as it fucking sounds. No, it's not dumb at all.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Like you said, man. You don't do that type of shit. She's going to be in ground. You know what I'm saying? As long as I'm with her. That's the truth. That's the truth. That's the truth.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So you got to spend time with her. You got to spend time with her. Especially with girls, though. I think that's the most important thing about this one thing. You know, we have boys, but girls, like, you know, they just look up to their dad way more than any other man. You know, you set the trait for whatever man they want to be with everything in their life.
Starting point is 00:04:31 You know what I'm saying? The blueprint. It's the blueprint. It starts with the blueprint today. You know what I'm saying? She follows me, guys. She's at a different age now where, you know, in three or four months, I won't be smoking dope at the house no more.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah. I just know it because she watches my hands. She knows I go outside. Yeah, she's always up. You can't have too much for them. No, they're not. They way smarter than what we think they are. So I don't want her to smell it.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Mm-hmm. I don't want her to see it. She knows the thing about me. From the time I remember this, man, my mom smoked weed from the time I remember it. Me too. Me too. I remember just coming home from school just loving that smell.
Starting point is 00:05:05 To be honest, like, damn, it always makes me hungry. You know, it's so weird how moms have changed how we judge our mom. Maybe my mom did smoke weed, but she covered a lot of the bases that people don't get covered today. Oh, yeah, facts. With the children. A lot of people don't cover those bases. My mom smoked weed and she covered certain bases that,
Starting point is 00:05:26 ah, there's times on Pistola for covering those bases at that age because it gives you that peak behind the curtain. Yeah. And the element of surprise. But at the same time, she covered a lot of good bases that, and she smoked weed. You know, she smoked weed. I had a godfather who really enjoyed weed.
Starting point is 00:05:46 You ever see a motherfucker who just smoked weed? Yeah, I'm serious, man. And that's a party for him. That's like, pretty much my whole family. My whole family just, we pretty much had drunk. You know what I'm saying? No drinking? Always did.
Starting point is 00:05:57 My aunt was a crazy drinker. You know what I'm saying? But she had to slow down now because she's starting to have, like, you know, trouble and shit. But for the most part, my uncle, I was like, yeah, heroine and shit. Like, he was heroine since he was like 16. You know? So he had that.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And like, I don't know, but smoked weed. So that was always like the less of anything. So, like, what age do you remember seeing people smoke weed? Five. Yeah, I can't, yeah. Like, I can't remember the night. My godfather would pick me up. A town with me not even smelling it.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Like, it's always just my house. It smelled like weed all the time. Like, shit. No, I remember being like five and going with my godfather to a movie theater. And before the movie, we'd pull over on the street and do the whole thing. You get the daily news with the brown envelope. And I'd be sitting there going, why is this motherfucker rolling his own cigarettes? He could just go to the fucking store and buy a pack, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yeah. And then he would smoke it. And from being at my mom's bar, I knew it wasn't cigarettes, regular people smoke. Yeah. You know, you figure it out. You know that smell. That's not that. And then his eyes would get red, but he would get really fucking giggly and shit.
Starting point is 00:07:06 At the time, he was a Spanish dude. That was probably in his early thirties, a Spanish. His English was very broken, but he always had like a white girlfriend. And after the movie theater, we'd go back to her house and they'd smoke again. Like, she'd be giggling. And he'd walk, you know, it was there early. It was the late sixties, early seventies. Everybody got high.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So I'd go over there and they'd smoke again in front of me and they'd get giggly. And I'd just make like a mental note. Don't smoke that shit. Because it'll make you fucking giggly, you know? And then I would go home and see my mom and my baby sister smoke. Oh, shit. What? I had the same situation.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Kind of like the same situation as well. That's how I knew, but I didn't say nothing to nobody. Like, I didn't say nothing to nobody. And then when you get to kindergarten, they take you to the police station in New York and they fucking fingerprint you. We didn't do that type of thing. They give you a little package. Extra.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Extra. Like they got more, I don't know, more foolings to be able to because I remember that type of stuff. They give you like a little badge to make you to, to, to, to, uh, they do it to, uh... So you like the cops, right? Yeah. So you like the cops and they also shoot a gun and you get to take the target. But it's funny.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I asked the fucking cop, like, officer, you know, sometimes I'm walking down the street and I smell funny stuff. And he was like, that's marijuana. So I always knew from the cop what my mother and my godfather was smoking, but I never said nothing. It's not like I went out in the street and said nothing until one day my mom sat me down and she goes, this is marijuana. It gets you fucked up.
Starting point is 00:08:44 See, I don't even have that conversation. Yeah, we have that conversation. My conversation came, I remember when I started smoking weed, I feel like I started smoking weed on the regular, probably, or regularly, probably around like 14, 15. So, and I remember it be time my mom's pride didn't have weed or something and now coming out smelling like weed. And she was like, you better share that shit, you know what I'm saying? So that's how weed conversations started.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah, I just started smoking with my mom in high school. Like, yeah, about, yeah, about, yeah. I still cool with my mom. Yeah, my mom's living with me, actually. I just bought her a house, actually, though. So she's about to get ready to move. She don't know it yet, though. She about to get a body then.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Where is she now? I mean, we're still living in Michigan. What about, is she a bad neighbor? No. No, no, she's living with me. She's living with me in my house. I live in like, you know, like, you know. But what neighbor did you come from originally?
Starting point is 00:09:36 No, from me. I came from Linwood, Born and Raised, like West Side Detroit. Then we moved to the East Side of Detroit. How was that? The West Side of Detroit, to me, I liked it more because it was more about like, I think it's more like, it was more like, I guess better. It's more like suburban, I felt like, you know, like, then when I moved to the East Side, it was like gangs and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:09:57 You know, like the West Side was all about, like, you was the cool kid if you dressed nice. Then you go to East Side, you was the cool kid if you knew how to fight. You know what I'm saying? That's all it was about. So, I don't know. I mean, I didn't really like to fight too much. So I couldn't take the East Side. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:12 So I went back to the West Side. This is a stupid question, I'm sorry. But the only thing I know about rap in Detroit is Eight Mile. Eight Mile is what separates Detroit from the suburbs. Okay, God. So where's East, where's East and West? East, I mean, that's just in Detroit in general, like the East Side and West. Like, it's an East Eight Mile and it's a West Eight Mile.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Oh, gotcha. You feel me? So just East Side and West Side. You know what I'm saying? So, but the East, yeah, the East Side Detroit is a little more tougher. They're a little more like just grimeer, just more blue, like the East Side type of guys that had like $10,000 in their pocket but looked like a bum. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:10:45 And you meet a guy from the West Side, he looked like a million dollars and ain't got a penny. You feel me? And that's just always with the logic of it. So I come from both sides and I gained and learned a lot from both sides a little bit, to be honest. It kind of molded me to be who I am. I'm kind of glad that I was able to experience both sides of Detroit because I couldn't just imagine just living on the West Side on my luck.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I wouldn't have been tougher a little because when I moved to East Side and then been through all the shit, I was going up and beating me up and shit, jumping everywhere. You know what I'm saying? So by the time I moved back to the West Side, I felt like them niggas were soft. Like everybody was like, you know, they're supposed to be a little soft. And I wasn't really just trying to be tough. And I wanted to dress and just be fresh like them too. You know, just all about going shopping.
Starting point is 00:11:24 You know, we just always wanted to have the new sneakers. Just go get the Jordans, you know, like shit like that. So we didn't want to, I didn't want to be on that, you know, niggas on the East Side. They was already breaking houses. And you know, like I'm talking about just like middle school though, like 14, 15, you know what I'm saying? Like cause I went to elementary school on the West Side, then my mom's moved to the East Side and middle school. And we moved over there.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Like I said, it was like gangs and shit. And I don't know, it was kind of weird. Cause I guess that was a phase in the 90s. If you think about it, once that whole blood and Crips shit probably like went, cause a lot of, I bet you that shit probably happened like in a lot of different cities. Where it's like, cause that shit is like real out here. That's where we're originate. But then they was faking it out there, but people really lost their lives and shit over that shit.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Cause I remember it was like fake bloods and Crips and like two people got killed there. It wasn't no more games, you know? Crazy. They stopped getting you back. You can't find a blood and Crips in each trade, right? Let me simplify this, because I know you did some time. I knew nothing about that world. Till I did time.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And then when I started doing time, I became very tight with a Crip. Because at that time, the mid 80s, remember that dude, what's the documentary of the dude who brought Coke into Compton? Rick Ross. Rick Ross, whatever. So for some reason in those days, the people who were bringing Coke to Colorado, to the urban communities, the black communities in Nevada and downtown Denver, were the Crips in LA. They were going down to the dates.
Starting point is 00:13:00 There was a quarterback that played for the Buffalo's. And he was in college and he was like a Crip. So on the weekends, he would drive to LA, pick up Coke. To bring to Boulder. But this kid, that I did time with, just to rake in, we became tight. I mean, we were in each other's cells every night talking shit about stories. Listening to two short, you know. That's right.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And it was very interesting. It was very interesting to me. When I joined it, I was, I'm not there. I'm not there, but the way he put it down. See that shit was like, he born into that shit. So it's like your family, like you don't know nothing else type. You know, this is what it is. So I can say out there it was fate, but people really went to jail or did dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:13:48 They probably regret doing, you know what I'm saying? People lost their lives. I remember that shit and it was kind of wild over there for a minute. You ever watch those gangline shows? I love that shit. America's most evil. That's my favorite show. When you see those kids on MSNBC, Saturday late night,
Starting point is 00:14:06 you come back and do it and show you're scrolling through your teeth. You watch them jail shows and shit? Those jail shows. Some of them be a little fake to me. Some of them seem weird. Do they really? Some of them seem weird because they're too calm. When I was in jail, I wouldn't, and the camera came in there.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I don't know how I would. I mean, I know you'd be so bored in there. I probably acted a goddamn fool to be honest. Well, I mean, they kind of do. And just coming from like TV. I just had to have a revelation. I probably would have acted a goddamn fool. Because you'd be so goddamn bored, you just wouldn't know anything.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I mean, it was a point in time. I was on one floor and you could like look out the window to our floor and you could see the girl prison floor too. So we were just looking the floor, just short titties and shit. You'd be jerking off in the window and shit. My father got caught, sent to other floors and shit. But you always wanted to go to that floor where you could look and see the bitches from your windows.
Starting point is 00:14:58 It was like in our county, Wayne County jail. Because you're like the female in the male prison like right now each other. But if you can get on this one floor and you can see this is one window. You can hit some hair right when it gets to that. You think after how much time did you do? I did eight months in the county. Let me ask you this. I was the dumbest ever because I got...
Starting point is 00:15:17 How old were you when you got arrested? Like maybe 19. For my first case, I caught a distribution in manufacturing. The dumbest shit ever. And that's crack. No, it was weed. That's so crack forever. That was the worst part of it.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It never got in trouble. We used to get... I was still in crack. Like it started for me. Like yes, you know, just normal shit. Like I say, hanging out, trying to be cool. Just doing too much and just caring more about being fresh and actually caring about clothes.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I mean, actually caring about school and stuff. You know? Hey. I didn't want to put it... So then I just... I didn't just hanging out with the wrong crowd, I guess. I don't know. I can't say it's the wrong crowd because you know, you're just impressionable as a kid.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Were you like... What was it like when you went to prison? Like even when you just found out. Joey said he was... Oh man. That's what I was saying. I said, I gotta get to this story. Get to that point.
Starting point is 00:16:09 You give me what I'm saying? So with me, it was like one day my homeboy was just like... Fuck it. You know, he was... He had came into, you know, some money. So he was trying to, you know, flip his money a little bit. You know? Fuck this school shit.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I'm about to get some work. And we're about to put it down. You want to fuck with me? You want to do something? You know? So we got like this apartment building. You know what I'm saying? And that was terrified.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Like, I ain't... You know, I think I was like maybe... Y'all was like 17, 18 maybe. Because you telling me pretty much about the... I'm about to run my own crack house pretty much. Because you not about to be around. You just putting the money up to do it. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:16:39 So I'm the one that got to sit there all the time, you know? So we get the apartment, you know, end up finding a place where the landlord was like a crackhead. So that's how we got the building in the first place. You know what I'm saying? So we got the apartment. And it was slow for maybe like a month. Maybe two months, you know? And you maybe had like...
Starting point is 00:16:55 You maybe caught like a... Like an eighth. Like, you know, like a... You know, it was crack days though, you know? So we got it, cooked it up, you know? Did the normal way we do it. What we supposed to do. It's slow, not doing nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:04 But we found this one crackhead named Chickenwin. You know? And we called him Chickenwin because he just had a... You know, his hand... It was all fucked up. It was all fucked up. You know what I'm saying? So he would tell, you know, other crackheads about it.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And we just did a special three for ten dime rocks, you know? Just lost out on it like a batch. Because we had it for so long anyway. So I fucking did three for tens just to get our name out there. And once we did that, it just... It just took off. Empire. Like some shit I could never even explain.
Starting point is 00:17:31 You can't explain. To the point where I had to like grab other kids from school. Like I had to go to school because I was in there by myself. It was just me in there with a gun. And I remember one night... You know, I'm just after so long, I got comfortable a little bit, I guess. I remember one night waking up late and I just, you know, woke up and, you know, knock on the door, knock on...
Starting point is 00:17:48 Just serving the lady. And she... And I had the gun just right there. Like on the table. And she's like, you better... You know, you better watch yourself a little bit. You know, I would sleep on the floor. You know, she...
Starting point is 00:17:57 And I thought about that, though. Like, damn, she could have just picked up with that pistol. You know what I'm saying? Took the whole shit. You know what I'm saying? So ever since then, I was a little more tighter. So then I ended up going back to school and shit and recruited a couple more homies. And then we started off like that.
Starting point is 00:18:10 And we ran that spot for about a good... Maybe two years. Like two years selling crack. Like just... They became millionaires. They became millionaires. They became millionaires. Like we...
Starting point is 00:18:24 Like me, I never had the mindset of a drug dealer, I don't think. I never thought about that shit. So I was just getting my money and just buying clothes and just spending it on just random shit. I didn't even realize how much money I was even making to the point when I recruited other motherfuckers and I looked in two weeks. They was buying cars and putting rams on them, getting apartments and how... You know what I'm saying? I wasn't even thinking.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And I wasn't even thinking on that level, you know? I was just spending my money just, you know, partying. All right, so you got an ounce of coke, 28 grams. You pay 800 for it. How do we make... It was 750. Yeah, you're so right. So 750.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Let's just say 800. We put... I used to chop up 1200. So I chop up 1200 in stones. We talking about ounce of crack. All right, let's say we have an ounce of coke. How do I turn it into crack? You got to go get it cooked.
Starting point is 00:19:13 You know what I'm saying? How do we cook it? I was trying to special cook, which was like... Me, I fuck with my uncle, but he's... My homie, he's the fuck with his one dude. And he's the... So you want the special guy who could bring your shit back a little extra. You ain't know how to cook it back.
Starting point is 00:19:25 We could bring some extras. But sometimes trying to bring it back extra ended up fucking up the whole batch. Right. Because I remember him so many times having the fucked up batch and that motherfucker slow. You can't get that shit. I mean, one time we had some motherfucking... He left... He had the coke in his girl purse and it was around her perfume.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And the perfume or something, absorbing the coke. And then when he cooked it up, it was fucked up. When we were trying to sell it, he called that shit Michael Jordan Cologne. That's when the Michael Jordan Cologne just came off. So he said we were trying to sell a Michael Jordan Cologne. We got an ounce of powder, which is 28 grams. What am I looking for to get back from that? What I'm in the crack world.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And the crack was, like I said, with me, breaking it down, telling you, all you got is an ounce. You can't do nothing but try to sell that in the stones. You're selling eight bars, you know what I'm saying? No, no, but I would take it... All right, I had a buddy. I had a buddy who I'd give him 8,500 bucks. And he'd give me back 11 ounces of coke.
Starting point is 00:20:21 That were beautiful. Fucking beautiful. We'd take one ounce out of the gold and we'd throw a fucking four in there. And he'd do this fucking thing. And he'd put it in the oven with a little bit of foil around it. And he took it out and it was still an inch. He called it re-rocketed. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And he would take an inch, it was an inch thick, and then we would break it and he'd take the walls off. And that's what we would snort, like fucking around the wall so they wouldn't see the walls on it. And if you picked up the rocks, you could still see the shine. Yeah, thanks. So that was his chemical breakdown for it. It was still great coke.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It was great coke. Nobody knew I would take it to Colorado. But I had friends who were in the crack business and they told me they would go to the paint can and put four ounces of coke in there and put, like, turpentine. Something fucking... This is 85. This is the shit they were serving up in 85.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And you get four ounces or two ounces of that crack and you'd break it up into, you know, $10 stones. And he'd make, you know, $3,000 a day on it. Something fucking crazy. See, that's all it was with me. I was getting, like I say, me, I get at my max because it started off with just me getting an eight-bar. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:41 I get an eight-bar, which I think would give me... Three and a half. Yeah, so I supposed to give him a hundred back. You know what I'm saying? So I'd chop up 15. So 150, make a 50 off it. Usually when you try to double it, we want the biggest ones because it was more apartments in that building.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Toasty Landlord was a crackhead. Right. So now... So you're like, oh, cool Jack City. Yeah, it's like fucking New Jack... What the fuck? You know it now. It's like three apartments in there.
Starting point is 00:22:06 You know what I'm saying? He's just fucking working, give the guys fucking 20. Yeah, so now... 20 a day in Coke, right? So now, so if he'd give me an eight-bar, it was... I had to give him a chop of 15 stones. I'd give him...
Starting point is 00:22:17 And I was pleased probably. Like I said, we was... I remember one time, I could like... Somebody had knocked on a door because we had two... Even to that point, we had two apartments. Like apartment building across from each other. And we kept the work in that one. We would do that.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And I remember just going in the hallway. In that time, like selling like three eight-bar in stones. Like before they even chopped up. Like just... Before I even went back into the other one. Just for mother fuckers coming in the hallway. That's how crazy... This was like late 90s though.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Like 98, 99. Had to be the end of the crack era though. Because no one... I feel like there's no new crackheads now. Like no one just takes right now. No, they don't. I'm gonna crack. People still smoke and crack,
Starting point is 00:22:55 but I guarantee they'll go home. I wouldn't try to crack. Listen, 85 in New York City, you'd make a right turn off of Main Street. Let me give you an example. And I'd say you were driving on Broadway on 181st Street. And you made a right turn within two blocks. Two blocks.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Like within a block, you'd see mother fuckers on the corner just looking at you. And they're the ones that don't tell you nothing. They want you to come up to them and ask them for directions. Then you go, what are you looking for? And they're like, I'm looking to get high.
Starting point is 00:23:30 What do you need? I got it right now. But if you went down another block, the more you went away from that, you would look at the savages. Oh, yeah. Lee, they're the ones that run up to your car. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:23:40 That was that. And hold your fucking... your rearview mirror. That was that. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?
Starting point is 00:23:48 Let me get mother fucking two ounces of coke. Yo, Flock O'Connor over here. That was that. Let me see the cash. Hey, man, a cop. Let's do this shit. Bam. When you come on the block from now on,
Starting point is 00:23:59 ask for Danny B. That was it. All day from 12 to 12. Lee, it was a business that was being run on the street. And there was 10 motherfuckers on the same street fighting for the same nickel. And guess what? They would all go home with pockets fat.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And do the cops just not care? Do they not know? Are they... They know. They know. You play that game and just part of the game. You play that game. They coming.
Starting point is 00:24:21 They going to come one day. You going to come one day. One day you going to beat them one day. It's just a part of the game. You know? See, but it's not a game though. You have to do it differently. But every day, you know, that's not...
Starting point is 00:24:30 You don't... You're not thinking about that. Like, that was just not nothing. You're just thinking about the money. You're not even there anymore, Danny. And I'm worried for you. Like, it just... That's scary.
Starting point is 00:24:40 You're not so away from that life. Oh, no, no. I'm away from this. I'm 36 years old. About to be in March. You know what I'm saying? So, I'm so far... We talking about 98, 99.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Like, back in that. That shit was so fucking... But anyway, like, that shit got fucked over. Like you saying, we end up being old savages on the block. Cause we ain't had that apartment on the block. And those savages were getting... We ain't... Those guys never had dick.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And now they're giving them an opportunity to make 300 cash a day. They don't even go home. Those dudes don't even go home. Because they ain't nothing at home but a fan and a floor. Why go home? I'll stay out here all fucking night. That's how it is. That's how it is.
Starting point is 00:25:19 You don't go home because you might miss the white dude that comes over to buy. With a hundred thousand dollars that comes over to get coke for his whole neighborhood. Or weed for his whole neighborhood. Cause then I thought, wow, you become the guy in the league. I don't like going into the city. I'm scared. Okay, no problem. Those $20 bags you like, they became 40.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Cause now you're going into the city of league. You became friends with Danny. And as soon as Danny sees you on the block, you page him before you come over. He's out there waiting for you. What is it about? Guess what? Nobody will say a fucking word to you on that street.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Nobody will try to rob you on that street. If you have a lot on you, somebody will get in the car and follow you to that fucking bridge. It's amazing how much they protect you. Because you are their livelihood. Danny's not going to call me and go, Joey, wait on the corner for a Volkswagen. With a short little Jew in there. And hit him in the head with his stick and take the drugs. There's no money in that.
Starting point is 00:26:20 They want you to keep coming back. It's such a weird. It's a social. It's a fucking business. It's all it is. There's no other way to bring it down. What we did in 85. But the fucked up part about it is that like me,
Starting point is 00:26:33 like I said, all that savage, like I didn't never get caught. No. No trouble, like he said, with the police. I didn't go to jail for that. I went to jail for weed. That's crazy. He's got me locked up with selling weed. But I'm going to tell you why.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Because when you sell crack, it's so sketchy. And it's so, you know, it's a real world. We know what you're dealing with when you fucking with that type of shit. You know, you know what, you know what you're involved with. With weed, it's your homies. It's Lee. He's trying to come over here and buy a bag. You know, they're pulling up the music loud.
Starting point is 00:27:03 You know what I'm saying? Everybody, they're coming up a wild time. You know, crack, it's discreet. Everything was, even though we had this apartment building, it was still like, even when we used to get raided, it was a time we was getting raided like two times a week. But no one would never get caught because they had to get buzzed in to get into the apartment building.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And who else can buzz them in but a crackhead or a person selling crack? So once they come, they lease out there five minutes before they even get in to even try to break the door. Because the door was so, it was like, not that type of door you can hit with the shit and it's going to open. And we would just run straight up. We would just leave out the apartment, run straight on the roof and go out like the chimney and just sit on top of the chimney.
Starting point is 00:27:40 You couldn't, you couldn't get up. We had, we had to leave an ounce of weed up there. We had to go up there, roll some bloods up, smoke till they leave, come back down, pay a crackhead to clean the motherfucker up, back open his next night, back open a few hours. You peed up there. That was the rule. That was, that was the way it was.
Starting point is 00:27:59 It was fun though. I hate to say it. I love it. I would do it all over again. I would do it all over again. I hate to say it. But see, I used to go down blocks that were fucking savages, like in, like in the late 80s in New York.
Starting point is 00:28:15 See, that's a different beast. The Cuban refugees came. That's a different beast. When those Marietos came, you didn't know they were black or fucking Cuban. And they would sit on that street and run after you. But when I got to San Francisco, the Cubans were selling weed on Coke and weed on the street.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And I told them, I said, guys, you're going to get nailed every fucking day. Go down to the corner and put a dice game up here. Put a dice game up there. And they looked at me all weird the same way. Yeah. Just like bringing more heat, right? I'd rather them stop for the dice game.
Starting point is 00:28:51 That game did for them. By the time the dice game was getting broken up, the Coke dude was running down the corner. Uncle Joey, you see? That's a dog. It was fucking. And the dude was in Bogarton. The dude was one of those Cuban dudes that saw Coke
Starting point is 00:29:04 that used to be married with kids. But when he went to jail, he became part of that lifestyle where you just fuck men. And they suck your dick, but you don't let them fuck you. So he was a Cuban dude that would be well-dressed. And he'd have two dudes with wigs on and makeup and shit. And that was his point, man.
Starting point is 00:29:25 So I would tell him to hide the Coke in the bumpers. Right? Listen to me. You know I'm the real deal, Holyfield. And he would smack them and their wig would fall off the street. Like he was a domestic violence. It was 1985. You get domestic violence whoever you wanted. He was domestic violence seeing these half of fags.
Starting point is 00:29:46 He would smack them open-handed like if they brought the wrong liquor. Why is that domestic violence? Because you can't be smacking people like that. But he had a wig. He had a wig on. It counts for something. And in those days there was no... My attention, battery, attention.
Starting point is 00:30:01 In those days there was no LBGT community. He would just smack them in the street if they fucked anything up. Anything. And they would be there with him. There would be like two guys dressed up as women. And they would be side by side and he'd be slamming Coke. And nobody would say dick to him because he was one of those marioelitos. The ones that came in 1980 with Scarface.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Those crazy motherfuckers. So would you see them around like around town just with black eyes? Like would you see them beat up around town in the rest? All the time. He would choke them in public. Oh my God. He would do the weirdest fucking kick them, drop kick them. What was they doing for him?
Starting point is 00:30:39 He had an apartment where they both lived. And he would take them up in the daytime and give them dick. Play for the girls. And they would hide his drugs. Everybody knew that his drugs were hitting upstairs in these two gay dudes' apartment. This was fucking nuts. This was fucking the street of nuts. But I bet in some sense, but I bet you they could hold water more than a female in that certain situation.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I could trust a man to hold my work instead of a woman. He would travel with them too. He would take them to Miami to pick up the blow. He would travel with them like they were fucking. I guess that was his logic. I'm trying to take him out. It's fucking crazy. When you walked in here, you said something and I've been dying to ask you,
Starting point is 00:31:25 what is a fucking mixtape? That's how fucking old I am. Break it down for Uncle Joey. What's a mixtape? And I guess a mixtape would just be, and back in the day it would be you would take other people beats. It's just freestyle over them because you couldn't, you didn't have that good a production as accessible to you. You know, so you're taking whatever the top industry beats is, and if you can do it as good as an industry rapper, at that point it would show how good you is, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:57 So making a mixtape was a good point to show how good you was in the rapper, like maybe early 2000s. What's your favorite play, OPP for a second? You going with OPP? I'm just going to ask you a question. I just want to learn something. Stretch, naughty by nature. I just went to, when I go to Edgewater, I stay in Edgewater when I go to Jersey. When I do New York, I stay in Edgewater.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I see him, Matt. He don't live in the hood no more. He was in Edgewater, Matt. What? What? What? Now, who is he paying? Other people's property. Your song is talking about fucking other niggas' bitches. Oh, no, no, no. I'm not talking about that.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I hear Michael Jackson's. Oh, oh, oh. Is this a mixtape right here? This is an album. No, this is a budget. They had to clear that sample. They paid for that sample. Shit, a lot of fucking money.
Starting point is 00:32:49 That's why that song is a big hit. They paid it. I bet he never made, I bet he probably didn't even make no money off this song. That's a commercial. That's what I call him. When you use a fucking sample that is so expensive that you're not even going to be able to clear no money, or even like if you use a like, like, like me, like with my last album, I like use the part from Jay-Z and Kanye's song on DIP, where I say, don't let me enter my
Starting point is 00:33:15 zone. And just off that alone, I don't even own that record no more. They make more money off that record than I could. You know what I'm saying? Just from using that little part. And that's just out here. Or the DIP part. That was like a DJ in a nasty part from Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Like, you can't do it. Like, that's why I never would do that shit ever. Okay. So, a mixtape. Is that a mixtape right there, OPP? No, that's from their album. That's from their debut album actually. That was the first single from their album.
Starting point is 00:33:46 But when you talk about mixtapes, became popular probably like 2000s, early 2000s. I saw a mixtape. But at first a mixtape was from DJs. That was DJs just finding the exclusive records from top rappers to the point where like they were still in records. Like back in like, let's say mid 90s, early 90s to late 90s. You know what I'm saying? That was when the mixtape in New York, that was the mixtape scene was cracking because
Starting point is 00:34:09 I remember like, if a motherfucker went to New York and came back with like a DJ clue mixtape and they were, you know what I'm saying? Come back and you'll hear that shit. It will have shit on it. You could never, just before the internet. So, that was how you heard shit. You would never, because I guess hearing demo versions, because sometimes you would hear a song and you would end up hearing the real version of that song when the album came out
Starting point is 00:34:28 and it was, it was like, damn, they're two different worlds. He was like, damn, I like did the mixtape version better. So, I guess in a demo version or sometimes he's hearing like, I guess exclusive, sometimes people leaking records to the DJ, giving them the, because that DJ, they had at that point. You know what I'm saying? Like a DJ, back in the day, it was like DJ clue, you know, then, you know, it was a thousand DJs. I remember back in the days.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I'm a producer. I'm in my basement. Ziggy, ziggy, ziggy, ziggy, ziggy. I come up with a fucking ziggy, ziggy, ziggy. I put it on a mixtape. I put it on a fucking. Yeah. You give it to a DJ?
Starting point is 00:35:01 I give it to a DJ at a club. It just all happens. You're chilling with Wiz Khalifa. You hear that beat and you go, whose beat is that? I want that beat. You go up to the DJ, who gets paid there? Nobody gets paid. At this point, man, ain't no money in rap music.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I really feel that. So this, this tape, I just made my own. No, all that is free. You don't give me that time. All that is free. Nothing. Nothing. With mixtapes, we're talking all free world.
Starting point is 00:35:26 You mean you're using other people's music? No, this is my music. I'm on my base deal. Like with me, my first album that you considered to be my first album was triple X, which, you know, it was considered to be a mixtape when it came out because it was free. But it was an album to me when I was making it. I was making an album. You know, I had just signed my first deal with an indie label, Poo's Gold.
Starting point is 00:35:48 So I was making an album. I wasn't thinking about making a mixtape. Who paid you? I mean, they signed me. When I signed, I got a, you know, I got a signing bonus. And that's it. That's it. I didn't even get a budget for this record.
Starting point is 00:35:58 For that record. I didn't even have a budget for it. What a crazy fucking world. Bro, like, I had a friend that just was cooling up to just like, he ran, he worked at a studio. And if I just pay him like a good, good ass studio, if I just pay him, then he would stay late hours and just let me record. So I would have to go to his studio, maybe like two in the morning and record all the way to six.
Starting point is 00:36:24 So I recorded that album that I'm talking about, like four sessions, maybe. Like, you know, like mixed and master everything. Boom. Turned in because I mean, I wrote it for them in like a year though. Like, like, like that's why I fucking, I fucking relate to comedy so much in some sense. Because I'm more of a writer. I think anything. I just rap because I think that was just what I was around.
Starting point is 00:36:45 But I think the writing part is what I love the most. You know, just being up late night and writing some shit and just singing it to myself like this and shit. And then once I recorded and put it out and then seeing all the, you know, the reviews and shit, I get back and be like, oh yeah, I was right. You know, I knew all that hard work I put in writing and fucking every night sitting with this shit, rewriting and recording it, re-recording, you know. So I like the writing part because I hate sitting in the studio.
Starting point is 00:37:11 That's the one part I hate the most. Now who comes up with the beats? With me, I have a producer in London that I work with a lot that I connect with. His name Paul White. I work with him since like, yeah, for like the last triple X and like, you know, so that's like my main producer I work with. And other than that, I try to work with like producers at this point that I always wanted to work with.
Starting point is 00:37:32 So I reach out to like all the old school guys that like, I want to, I would love to work with Riza from the Wu Tang, you know what I'm saying? At this point. So I'm just trying to get with all the producers that I always wanted to work with at this point. But at this point, like, yeah, for that, I work with Paul White. He's a guy in London. But he pretty much like, he was more into like, he into a lot of the psychedelic shit that I was into.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And that's why I connect with him. Cause he just, he's like a lot of live instrumentation, you know what I'm saying? Type shit. So it ain't just a motherfucker just sampling, you know, it's like we, I don't know. We really trying to like be progressive with rap at this point. Who are your influences? With rap or in general? In general music.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yeah. Like in general, man, I would say like fucking like Nas as rap, like rap music. Commendous. Nas was like, that's why I always like looked up to, cause I just looked at that like the great story of like, I don't know of what a rapper is supposed to be. Like I always say like a rapper can't be made. Like every day a motherfucker say I want to be a rapper. I never had that conversation with myself.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Rappers are born. You know what I'm saying? I was in kindergarten and they, I was in show and tell. I ain't had nothing to show or tell. I ain't know. And I just said a rap randomly and the class was lit. The class was like, that shit was dope. Can I ask you a question, Danny?
Starting point is 00:38:57 And I was thinking about this and it's. I just can't rap it. That's the way I started rapping kindergarten. I was thinking about this the other day. A lot of like musicians and like when you think of guys, you don't really think of singing being like a very like manly activity. And I know rapping isn't technically really always singing, but like, I don't know. Is it, is it like tough?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Is it manly to be a singer? Some of the best singers weren't even good singers though. Okay. And you feel me? Like some of my favorite artists, I don't think like in that way. Like I don't think Ian Curtis was a great singer. Like from Joy Division. I love Joy Division.
Starting point is 00:39:33 That's like one of my favorite bands. So that's one of my biggest influences. I fucking enjoyed the music. That's actually my last album was just like really like influenced and like really like I guess like tribute it to him in some sense. I called it a Tri-City exhibition because that first song of that closer album, like I really just hit home with me really hard. You know?
Starting point is 00:39:56 So I just took that one song and made a whole album out of it. Who was the crack kid from the Tentations? The crack kid. It's Ruffin. I had you David Ruffin. That's, he's got a great voice. Yeah. Now that's a real sink.
Starting point is 00:40:08 When he went solo. See you born with shit like that. Yeah. When he went solo, walk away from love, whatever, all that shit. I wish it would rain. That's my biggest lie. I wish it would rain. All that shit.
Starting point is 00:40:19 That's my favorite Tentations. Anything. It is very masculine to sing Lee. It is. You feel... Fuck. Yeah. I can't.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Well, because I, I mean it's Monday. We're going to play Tony Bennett here in a minute and Tony Bennett. Yeah, Tony Bennett man. For decades has been doing it. But I was, I was thinking about it the other day. It's like, you both, Joey is like, especially you're, you're very much like a man, like you like men's men, like tough things. And then just singing just seems a little bit apart from that.
Starting point is 00:40:50 But not, not like you're like a wimp, but it just, I don't, like it, for a second, it doesn't really click up. You ever heard those narco songs? Yeah. You heard them niggas singing? Dude, are you going to fucking 7-Eleven? You hear some Mexican music playing? And they just suddenly, they just playing some fucking Margarita music or something.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And they really talking about chopping heads off and killing people. That's true. Yeah. It's like the greatest thing in the world. Expression. Expression has been around. You know, I love these people. Like right now you showed up tonight.
Starting point is 00:41:21 You showed up with five of the greatest classic rap albums of all time. Yeah. You know how to come through it. You know, but it's like, I'm the motherfucker that tells you that now, rap's been around for a long time. Which is that, put on something fell while the album finally went. Finally fell. Put on Potato and Totico.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Okay. This is, this is rapping Cuba in 1960. Okay. Tell me what songs are available. All right. Hold on. How did you even know what he said? I grew up on this.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You like this one? Agua K. No, no, no. NL Carrion. Yeah. Yeah. Carrion. I don't know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:42:09 That's the one. He just, he's talking over conga drums. Okay. They sound like narcos already. Yeah. He's, I'm still waiting for somebody to buy the rights to this and rap over this. I mean, it's easy, Carr. And he was talking some games to shit.
Starting point is 00:42:38 He's talking about his fucking neighbor dog. He's talking about Hilda. Hilda told him. I was out doing my fucking thing. Just a translation. Pochí. No, I haven't definitely checked this out. He just said bass and kind of in bangos.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Andy Garcia paid for the bass playing to get out of Cuba. This is, this is like when you go to a Cuban's house and you look at that record collection, if you don't have this, you just get up and leave. Because this is the heart of Cuba. This is, this is put on the I walk a lot. I swear to God. This is, this is what the Nyanugos used to play for that. That is the type of shit that I like to rap to.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Oh, this is the shit somebody needs to rap to. Like minimal shit. This is, this is, this is something that this album that I play all the time on here. It's not like a lot of rap music. This is, this is the beginning of mumble rap. It's like the bar goes away. Dog, this is, this is fucking too much. This is too much.
Starting point is 00:44:30 There's an experiment at his finest that this is 1960 something. There's one jam off that first down that he's fucking. This was huge. This was huge for Cuba. This is like huge in the Afro Cuban community. That's the other community of Cuba. You have three different types of Cubans. You have the light-skinned ones.
Starting point is 00:44:53 You have the Targanyos who are mixed with the Indians that Columbus killed. And then you got motherfuckers that look like Danny Brown. And that's just the way it is in Cuba. Now the motherfuckers that look like Danny Brown, pop up on an island. Thanks. They were the slaves they brought over that state. And they had this fucking language and they had this whole thing going on.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And that's why it's called Afro Cuban. Okay. Because it's very African. They just put a little Cuban on top of it. And this should have gone. That's just like Afro beat shit too. Yeah. Hence a lady called Celia Cruz.
Starting point is 00:45:32 That's Afro Cuban. It's a Kimbara-Kimbara film. Is that when I can type Danny on it? Yeah, you can. Just pressing Celia Cruz will be one of the songs that go on. What? Right? This is Afro Cuban.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And it's so weird when I listen to that type of music. What is it called? That's like rap music for you. This is rap music for Cuban people. Now they have their own rap music. And that was 60. Yeah, of course, everybody. Now they have their own rap music in Cuba.
Starting point is 00:45:59 It's called Celia Cruz. Right. And it begins with a Q. Kimbara? Yeah. Who the fuck is this? Making me a 546 in the morning crack of dawn. And, you know, I mean, this is black African music in Cuba.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Shit, it's got 24 million views. Oh, no, this is not good. She got a Hollywood on the fuck. That bitch got a star, Jackie. See, when she signed, if you watch the series on fucking Netflix, when she signed with the first label, they were throwing Cuban music at her. And they were like, it ain't working. And some guy in New York said, Doug, you got to call her blood.
Starting point is 00:46:53 You got to tap into her blood. And that was the rest of his history. Damn. You got to tap into what the fuck you want, bro. This ain't no club. This ain't no rap music. You shut the stuff down. I like both of it.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Oh, no, that's tremendous. That's even my wife likes that album. That's a great album. That's like a fucking great album right there. Now, Danny, do you go and tell your guy in London, like, I want something like this or this? Or is he just like, does he just send you? No, how it started.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Even how it started. Just email. He'd make beats at home and just send them. And that's pretty much how it started. He started sending me beats in like 2010. And I just remember just getting a random email. You know how it is. You have your Twitter.
Starting point is 00:47:38 You have your whatever. And you have your fucking email out. And I just had an email to send, you know, and you just sent some beats to me one day. I just opened them up. I'm like, fuck. They were really good. So I just hit them back and just you just kept started working.
Starting point is 00:47:52 It was just 2017. What the fuck? Listen, let's get the fucking elephant out of the room. My blood is music. Yeah, that's just the drugs. I knew that I could never have the commitment I needed for music. The drugs I was doing. It's like drugs and music on hand and hand.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Not this level of drugs. I'd be selling microphones. I'd be housing things. You know, you don't need that. Who was here last year? First off, you know, you got 20 black dudes in your studio, and I'm the thief. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:28 So it just wouldn't go off well. It just wouldn't go off well. There were 20 motherfuckers in there. And the white dude is the fight. Bro, I would steal these chairs. When I was snorting, I was snorting. How are you going to steal chairs? I just knew that I would pawn that guitar.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah, you stole everything in the studio. I would pawn that fucking guitar and that snort. Everything in the studio. But every time I say, I think, I don't know. I think it really just, with me and music, I look like you. I love music. I'm a fan more than I think I am an artist of it.
Starting point is 00:48:59 You grew up with music at the house every time. My dad was more into house music. That's crazy. What's house music? House music is just like, you know, like dance music. Like Detroit techno, like ghetto tech, like shit like that. That was my life. Moms.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Moms. Is that where, is that where you... I had young parents. That's what happened. My mom's was 18. My dad was 16 when I was born. Grandma and grandparents, you never go over there. My grandparents, my, my, my, my dad's mom is Filipino.
Starting point is 00:49:30 So that's that whole world. Okay. So I got that Filipino world. And 10, my mom's is black. So yeah, my grand, my grandmothers still living, but I never had, I never met my grandpops, none of my granddad's and none of my dad's. There's never really a lot of men in my family to be honest.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I had one uncle who was in jail all the time. Then I had another uncle who was my auntie's boyfriend, my mom's older sister. And he's pretty much like, he's been more influential like far as like, didn't probably anybody in my life, to be honest. You know, my dad's, like I say, he had me at 16. Jesus. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Then he had four kids, like, then he had three kids back to back. Like my dad was a criminal. I think about it every, like, I think about all the time. Like he was really kind of like, it keeps crazy. What, like 16 and 20? He had a kid every year? He stopped, he had 16, 17, 18. Then he stopped a year, didn't have one at 19.
Starting point is 00:50:25 So about 20, he had four kids. Fuck. Different fucking world, my friend. So imagine being right. Different fucking world, my friend. You know, when I listen to your music. All right. First of all, we came in here when Danny,
Starting point is 00:50:47 some dude Danny Brown wants to be on the podcast. Thanks. I thought it was a white dude. So for a month, people are hearing Danny Brown on there. I kept thinking Danny Brown was the white dude, Rogan had on that smoked joint after joint after joint. Blood after blood after blood. What's the white dude that he had on?
Starting point is 00:51:08 Do you want me to say it? Don't worry about it. Don't say it. It's a white dude. I didn't know. He comes in here, poppa da, poppa da, poppa da, poppa da, Danny Brown, Danny Brown, Danny Brown, Danny Brown. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Listen, if I want Eminem, I'll fucking call him. All right. I thought it was a white dude. If I want Eminem, I'll send him a fucking telegram. All right. So I go home one night. I'm stoned to the fucking deals. He's loyal about weird things.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Right? And yeah, I don't need no white rapper. First of all, I invented the white rapper in 1985. You're looking at him right here. Joey Diaz invented the right rapper at the Sheridan on 57th and fucking 7th. I broke it down for this black dude and a white dude that were from a record label.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I was bartending and I said to them, listen, the fucking, you know, the two guys in Brooklyn. Who were the two guys in Brooklyn in 1985? Beastie Boys? No. Way before the Beastie Boys. I told the other dudes, fucking snap, pop, crap, glum, pop.
Starting point is 00:52:21 What's his name? Come on. My Ditas. Oh, Run DMC? Run DMC. I go, listen, Run DMC is great. Run the pop. And some of the grandmaster flash is great.
Starting point is 00:52:34 All that shit is great. But you guys gotta get a white dude. A white dude. But the Beastie Boys? The Beastie Boys came out maybe two years later. Yeah. I swear to God. I'm like, see?
Starting point is 00:52:45 So I'm a fucking genius. See? See, I'm a fucking genius. Even now, like with, that's what I'm saying, rap music now, I feel like it's like so over-saturated. I can't even see how people even make money at this point. There's so many rappers.
Starting point is 00:52:57 It's just, especially with the internet, which is a great thing to be honest. It's a great thing. Yeah, I saw a video about this other, this rapper yesterday and I just blew my mind. There's this guy Chance the Rapper. Yeah, Chance. I don't really, I don't know anything about him.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Just ever since I got into podcast, I don't listen to music anymore. I really don't. He just wanted Grammys, man. He's fucking huge. He was on the Grammys. He did for the White House. He did Saturday Night Live twice.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Saturday Night Live twice. And he doesn't have any of his music. He doesn't have a record deal. He did this on festival where like 50,000 people came. Yeah. So he just charges for that stuff? Just internet. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:34 It's a whole new world. You know, I've still come from that era. Like I say, I've been trying to do it since the late 90s. So I come from that whole different era, you know, of how to do it. But these kids, yeah, it's a whole different world with them. Like me, I always wanted to be on the independent label kind of. Because I knew I could, I could have the freedom I wanted to do with my music
Starting point is 00:53:56 that I couldn't do on a major label. Like being signed to like, I couldn't make the girl songs or the clubs. Like you got to think the music business is exactly what it is. It's the music business. But I didn't realize that until now I'm kind of got deep in it. And it's like, fuck. Nobody knows. Once you get a mortgage.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Once you get a mortgage and you're like, fuck, you know. The business side of it is we'll put you into shock. Yeah. Because guys like you and I started just to get out of what we were doing. Yeah. I was at one point in time in my life, I was like, if I could just be able to just support my weed habit and pay my rent, buy fresh clothes and pay my rent.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I'm good. I'm happy. I'm good. I'm good. I'm living with music. I'm happy with that. I swear. I thought I was going to travel all the time.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I wasn't going to get a residence. I was going to get like a down point, like live with four dudes. My plan was to travel 40 weeks a year. No kids, no wife, no family and just do comedy. But see now with this chance guy and guys like yourself with the internet. So your music is free, but you charge on the road. Yeah. That's pretty much what you get paid for.
Starting point is 00:55:09 You get paid for your shows. But you don't know how that is though. We think about the level of those guys though. Like they didn't even, like they were just getting millions of dollars off their music. Like we're not making no money off music. The music is the commercial. That's why I call it the commercial. The commercial.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And now you selling everything else. That's why me, I'm trying to get more into doing anything else like rap to me. I'm trying to make it more of a hobby and just starting to try to, you know, it's, of course it's my number one job, but it was my hobby before. And that's when I loved it. And that's when I felt like I could do my best at it. I don't want to ever look at it to the point where I know that it's paying my bills. So I got to do what I got to do with it, you know, and sacrifice the art or make shit
Starting point is 00:55:51 that I don't really want to make just because I know to make some money just because I need that to pay my bills, you know? So I'm trying to just do more shit. Like I've been getting more into like voiceover, like just trying to do like, you know, like cartoons and shit. I've always been just wanting to get into that, you know? I think you're always rap. I mean, I'm driving on the fucking street down there is a billboard of ice cube about
Starting point is 00:56:16 to beat up a white dude. You know, fist fight, like I need to watch this movie. I know Lee can't wait for it to come out. I mean, his girlfriend are going to go because they like that guy. It's going to park some rack and he's, you know, he's, he's always sunny. But dude, I can't, I can't forgive ice cube for right along. One of the jokes is here that even though I'm looking at ice cube and I'm looking at this thing, I'm thinking about to die.
Starting point is 00:56:45 How you like me? Now I'm in the mix. It's like 1886 and I got that. You know what I'm saying? But that's the point. That's what I'm saying. There's so many avenues now where you can make a living, but you're still going to go to rap.
Starting point is 00:56:59 What it makes you do in a way is that now when you go back to rap, the intensity is even with myself. Let's pretend tomorrow Lee, they come to me and they got to shoot a movie for eight months and you can't do stand up. You know what? After a month, I'm going to be happy, but I'm going to be sad. I'm going to start right. And I'm going to write the best shit.
Starting point is 00:57:20 It's so hard to rap music though, man. It's really, sometimes it's really depressing, to be honest, because you can, like me, a person, I spend two years, three years to make an album, I would never, I would never receive the money or anything that I could get back from rap music that I put into that, that I made. Like other back in the day, like maybe everybody else could probably see the return, like nowadays some kid could just make one random song on South Cloud and now he's, you know, winning the Grammy tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Do you feel what I'm saying? So it's almost like, it's a whole new, like I said, it's a whole new world. You can't really, it's like a new ball game. Like I feel like, and I'm, I'm still playing by old rules kind of, you know? Well, somewhere along the line, you could play with old rules, but like new way of thinking. You know, listen, I see a lot of comics, my aides that are at home. Yeah. You know, I could, I could have been at home tonight.
Starting point is 00:58:21 My daughter too. Thanks. And the kids. I know. But change here, I want to be with my cats. Yeah. The cats, I want my voice to be heard. We want to get out there.
Starting point is 00:58:32 You know, this is our commercial. This is Lee and I's commercial. Lee wants to do consulting. I want to do stand up. This is our fucking commercial. Somewhere along the line, you got to sacrifice, but it's not a bad sacrifice. No, not at all. Because 20 years ago, you didn't have this opportunity.
Starting point is 00:58:48 No, because 30 years ago, you didn't have this. The way I look at it is American dream. You want to be able to support yourself of something you love doing. Nothing sucks more than, like we say, I was a fucking selling crack. I didn't want to do that shit. I just wanted some Jordans. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:59:05 And like, so now it's to the point where, yeah, I'm comfortable in life, but it sucks when you see like, I don't know, you see like certain certain music. I don't know, like half a noun type stuff. It's almost like, oh, no, like robbing a bank years ago. I feel like it's like robbing banks sometimes with the way people make music. Because they know what they're doing, because they're that talented, they're that talented that they can make something that they can program with you to life. Like they know, if they know it sucks to themselves, that they were more talented,
Starting point is 00:59:41 but they know this is what the people like. When your boy and the other guy stole that song from Marvin Gaye. Your boy ain't my boy. He ain't my boy either. Why is my boy? What's that dude's name? I didn't know I was stealing the song. I was on pain medication.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I will smack you to fucking death. The first time I heard that song, I said, that's Marvin Gaye. I said that to myself in a fucking car. That's Marvin motherfucking gay. The other poor little bastard. I don't know, I never heard that song before. How the fuck did you not hear that song? You grew up in a black house.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? It's the same thing. Like if somebody stole a joke. Oh, please. It's a fucking nightmare. It's the same thing. Like, but it happens all the time. I think more with music, though.
Starting point is 01:00:26 People just, it's like a trend to just, like back in the day, like with like Wu Tang, when the motherfuckers around, you came out and tried to rap like Wu Tang. Wu Tang might fuck you up. Nowadays, it's just cool to just sound like whatever's hot. Like let's just say whoever the high rapper is, everybody that just tried to rap just sound like him. It's like no more originality.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I think that's what the internet kind of fucked up, though. Because I remember a time in my life where we just had these albums going about tapes and going about shit. And the ghetto boys didn't look like Dr. Dre. And Dr. Dre didn't look like Wu Tang. And Wu, but nowadays you look at every rapper, they all look the same. Everybody's got to hold on.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Everybody's cold. They could be in fucking Florida and they got a fucking hood boy, a real cap on and shit. God forbid they don't have to go tea, the fucking, you know. Everybody looks the same. What is it, Lee? What's going on? Well, like what, at what point is that allowed?
Starting point is 01:01:22 Like the, that amount of, of sampling? Cause just for example, with sampling, it's all about what happens is, let's just say I take, like you say, okay, this is what could happen with that, with that cable, the Michael Jackson record. Let's just say I sampled the Michael Jackson record, right? And I want to get it clear.
Starting point is 01:01:40 But then they say, fuck, for you to use that, it costs a million dollars. Fuck, I can't afford a million dollars to pay for that Michael Jackson sample. So I take it and I get it replayed. And you will go find people who can replay this, you find a band, you find some players or you get it piece by piece.
Starting point is 01:01:58 It was a bass on there. It was a piano. You find the instruments and you re find musicians that can replay this. And then you can just use that because you don't have to clear that because you replayed it. Really?
Starting point is 01:02:10 And that's how it sucks kind of when you do that. It's never the same as what it was with the sample. Like my last album, Oh, I was a lot of replays and the replays is never as good like I wish people sometimes I'd be wanting people to hear the original demos or some of these songs that we replay. Like if you hit the actual shit, it was phenomenal. I mean, it came out still.
Starting point is 01:02:33 I mean, I did the best of what I could possibly do with what I had, you know? But I really liked the original. That's why I spent 70,000 in samples alone. Like I don't have that type of money to be putting into an album. You feel what I'm saying? Let's pretend you have an album.
Starting point is 01:02:51 One with smoking and drinking on it. Yeah, that one I didn't really have the budget. All right, so let's pretend. Smoking and drinking was not a sample, though. No, no, no, I'm just saying I like that album. Yeah, whatever that piece is with you on the cover. I like a couple songs from that. Let's pretend Janet Jackson comes to you.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Let's pretend Joey Diaz comes to you tomorrow. He goes, Hey, man, I like the beginning of smoking and drinking. I want to use it on my next CD. And you're like 50,000. Oh, no, see, I'm saying that all that goes through like my publishing deal. Okay, so I'm just saying a publishing deal. Like, I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Like I just signed a publishing deal. I've always like, I just renewed a publishing deal not too long ago, but I don't be knowing. Like you signed a publishing deal and just one day you wake up on your songs on TV show. You got paper? Yeah, I mean, you know, you get the little checks
Starting point is 01:03:42 but it don't be like that, you know? I mean, you get the first pay in from the publishing company. That first signing bonus and being up to that. They got her, you know, they trying to recoup up that. So you just look up, you're shipping on any of you. My question was, she could be in a tempire commercial.
Starting point is 01:04:00 My question was, I don't know nothing. You feel them sitting? Would Janet Jackson, no, not Janet Jackson. She's fucking, would Rianne, I mean, I understand for that. I mean, no, hell no. What you, what you, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:14 That's the difference. That's the difference. That's what I'm saying. Same popular in the mother fuck. Yeah. Mother fuck, yeah, you're right. Everybody let you use that mother fuck for free. Yeah, because I can't let you use,
Starting point is 01:04:23 I've always listened. Find me, find me Janet Jackson in 94, or no, no, no, no, no, 97 she put out around called the Velvet Rope. Yeah, Velvet Rope was lit. Give me the songs. That was when she was on her freaky shit. I liked that album.
Starting point is 01:04:41 That's when she dunked the floor. She even had a masturbating skit on there. That's some shit. That album was lit on the side of it. That was her most hip hop album, though, that she had. What's the songs on that? Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Give me one second here. That was her most, like, that was like some real, it was like some Dilla shit on there, to be honest. Like really like some Detroit shit on that album, to be honest, I fuck with that album. So the six singles, is that what you want? I bought that album. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:11 The Velvet Rope, what's on the album? I can't believe now that I bought this album. I remember this, man. But that was the time, like, I actually missed that. Like, I remember the time of my life, like, every Saturday. Like, I just go to the record store. Everybody, that's why I grew up in a nice store. I had to buy something.
Starting point is 01:05:28 The coolest album cover. The coolest album cover. And I guess it was some dry time, and I just grabbed the Velvet Rope one time. Like, I gotta grab this, that single cracking. Nothing else. You know what I'm saying? I gotta just grab it.
Starting point is 01:05:41 I have a grill over it, so I'm gonna hear Janik. But Velvet Rope was lit. All right, so we got Twisted Elegance, Velvet Rope. You got till it's gone. That's the fire one. Interlude, My Need. That's what it's called, is the fire one. Speakerphone, they're two interludes,
Starting point is 01:06:02 so maybe it's like a skit. The one that don't play nobody but you. You? Yeah, see, that's the one. Like, this song here, she samples this whole fucking jam. All right. She paid though. But part two of that is like, it comes out of your budget.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Like, they give you a budget for the album. So from Janik Jackson, she gets a budget. So who knows? She probably three million back in the, she probably had a three million dollar budget for the album. And that includes the videos too. Yes. So nobody makes videos.
Starting point is 01:06:31 It includes videos. Right here. Yeah, I remember this shit. I don't always find live shit. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Don't worry about it, don't worry about it, but that's the song of war. Yeah, I remember that.
Starting point is 01:06:46 She, she feels she's in a war. Yeah. She paid them, but like, it's, I don't, it's dope to be honest. To me, it's art. I don't know. I like it. I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I love it. I like it. I like it. I don't like it. I like it. Not like in essence, where you taking it, like loops is cool. Where you taking something and it's just a hope.
Starting point is 01:07:07 It's just a reinterpretation of that piece. And that's cool. But I love when you can take something like that and just chop it up and deconstruct it to the point where you couldn't even tell where I sampled that from. Well, even OPP. Yeah. That's a loop though.
Starting point is 01:07:22 That's like, so like. That's a loop. That's, I like that loop. Yeah. Because ABC shit, who didn't like that? But that's, but the thing is about that, like with me taking something so popular like that, a loop that if you, you got to kill that shit.
Starting point is 01:07:38 You can't come half ass on no fucking Michael Jackson sample. What the fuck? Like, that is too like, I don't, what are you going to come with on that? Like, you know, like, so to me, I never, I don't know, I can't rap over something that popular. I wouldn't rap over a sample that popular. Now what's the deal?
Starting point is 01:07:57 And I don't want to start any problems. But like, for example, I don't know anything about rap. And I know that it's a well-known that Drake has used other people's lyrics. Yeah. So like, what, what, what, like, was that like stealing? No, it's not using people's lyrics.
Starting point is 01:08:12 They feel like he used people's waves. But in some sense, it's like, he's not really used people's waves. He put people on too. And what that, what that meaning is like, let's just say you made a song, Lee, right? Right. You made a song and you just some kid from somewhere
Starting point is 01:08:32 and you had on the internet. And it wasn't really popular like that, but it was popular in your little circle. It was popular in your little, you know, your situation. And then now he jumped on and shed some light on it. And yeah, it made the song more popular. And it got the song on the radio. You became a big star.
Starting point is 01:08:51 It became a hit song. But that's all it was for you. And it just was another hit under his belt. Okay. And now when you try to do it on your own, you can't, you feel what I'm saying? Okay, let's start this in scratch. You're in Detroit.
Starting point is 01:09:07 You're the king of your fucking little hip hop community within a mile. Yeah, cause you had to, you had to do that. It was one point in time I had to do that. You're the king of that club. One point in time I did have to put. The sugar honey, I had to put the foot down. I had to put the foot down.
Starting point is 01:09:23 The sugar honey is your club, whatever, the fucking sweet tooth on Lancashire, that belongs to Lisa. He wraps his debt off over there. It's white young Jews. They jump up and down. They come to see you. You don't go see them.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Joey Diaz, best rapper in the game, plays the Kobo arena. Or whatever the fuck. Is that still on the show? Yeah, Kobo, I mean, I don't even know. That's what I'm saying. I think it's Bill here. So he comes up to me and says,
Starting point is 01:09:56 Joey, what are you doing after it? You know me, Doug. I ain't got no after party. But one of my girls says she's popping off over at, where D Brown is the thing, all right? I walk in, D Brown is doing his set up on stage. You know, you got a couple songs recorded. You're working at the tire shop
Starting point is 01:10:17 to put your demo together. You know, you're like fucking dude in eight mile. I come in, I hear you sing, smoking and drinking. What happens now? I take it from you or I sing it better than you and put you on the song to do two lyrics. You get $2 and you go home. That's your little knapsack.
Starting point is 01:10:36 That's probably the second option. So let's say I go in there. I like you the way that song is popping off. I give you a hug. We high five. We're black, we're beautiful, all that fucking game, okay? We go into a studio a week later. You tell your family, Drake is flying me up there.
Starting point is 01:10:53 He puts you in a hotel. He sends some fucking chicken there in the room. You know, you go to the studio, you lay it down. He sings the whole thing. He adds lyrics to your jam. You go home. What do you sign now? Your life away.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Is there any percentage of you sign? Your life away? You signed everything away? Because you're the writer of the song. That's the point of it is, you wanna make a career out of rap music. That's the goal. That's what people now realize.
Starting point is 01:11:22 There are people in rap music with careers. Literally careers. You're not looking at them like the biggest rapper in the world. You're not thinking about them, but they tour all the time. They can tour it when they want. They can make an album.
Starting point is 01:11:35 They can get a budget from their label whenever they wanna make an album. You feel what I'm saying? Do you have these big guys that you gotta stay on the radio once you don't make a hit? Your label might drop you. 360 deals, which is the worst shit
Starting point is 01:11:50 that ever been invented in music history. That's what's probably killed rap music. And 360 deal is when, now you signed to a major label, they taking the money from your merch, they take the money from your show, and they take the money from your music. Back in the day, what I known is that
Starting point is 01:12:08 the record label, the music business only take music. You make money from your merch, and you make the money from your shows. And that's the way I still, you know? Like, you know, my principle in it, that's probably why I can't, I would never really sign with major labels. Because now they don't make enough money on music.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Yeah, they gotta take it all. So they gotta take a piece of everything, your t-shirts, your toys, and your, in the old days, I give you a budget, which is basically in advance, right? Yeah. So once the album drops. Because you really trying to stash that,
Starting point is 01:12:44 you know, everybody trying to stash their bands, even though this last album I spent more than what I got on my shit, you know? And I got prayed, I mean, I gotta say, I spent 70,000 in samples alone, and I'm on an independent company, and I don't have that type of money to be spending on fucking music.
Starting point is 01:13:01 So like, when you're... I got a fucking big family, I'm from Detroit. You give it a percent, like... So when you go on the road now, there's three different t-shirts. Oh yeah, hell yeah, we have a whole fucking booth for the merch, you know? The thing is about that, with merch,
Starting point is 01:13:15 I feel like you can't burn it out. You have to make it still cool and exclusive, and like, when you make it too much, and that's when, you know, I feel like it's just become like, I don't know, it just feel like you thirsty. People get pissed at me, because I don't put out enough merch. Yeah, I just feel like you thirsty, you know?
Starting point is 01:13:32 I don't like it either, I don't want to sell them merch at the show. I don't want to feel thirsty about that. I want you to come over and shake my hand, and talk to me. Yeah, yeah, I just don't... If you wanted, you would get it. Yeah, you'll get it, it's online,
Starting point is 01:13:41 I don't want to push it. I don't want to... Buy a t-shirt, buy a t-shirt. Come over, take a picture, get the fuck outta here. You know, I don't want to be there, I sell music, do not close. No, I don't want to do that, it's my... Real men?
Starting point is 01:13:51 People, somebody, my wife went to lunch, and the person told them, my wife, so my wife started giving me luggage with shirts, and I fucking hated it. I did it like four times, and one day I just left the shirts, I'm not doing this no more. And then we got the shirts from the taping.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I had one, me too, with a record. Yeah, I would take it. I left boxes, boxes and boxes of t-shirts at the hotel, like, fuck the shit. You want to buy a shirt, go online. I'm not carrying that shit with you. I love you, yeah, I love you, you want to buy a shirt.
Starting point is 01:14:18 But it's not my primary business. I want to focus on my comedy. I don't want to focus on shirts and sandalases and fucking headshots. It's making me know, just not what I got into it for. You know, for one thing, like I just really like, like I say I like the right aspect of it,
Starting point is 01:14:35 more than anything. Like for me like that's one thing I love. Like that's what people don't understand, like with rapping, it's so easy, to be honest. Just like comedy or some sense, it's pretty much setup setup punchline type shit you feel me so with me I just pretty much just try my best to just like make the fucking most original shit I can possibly do cuz rap music has been around for fucking it's still
Starting point is 01:15:01 relatively new but it's still it's getting old at this point where it's still like I don't know it's weird and it's still always they say as a young man's game but it's like old men still running you know it's like a weird facade like rap music is I can't really put my no one would ever be able to put their finger on it and that's what make it so cool I'm gonna tell you what else about rap music any day it's like the American dream any day some kid can just make a video on YouTube and become just the star of tomorrow there's a lot of good fucking millionaire and like you know there's a lot of good rap music a
Starting point is 01:15:39 lot of artistic guys you're very artistic in your music I like what you do but there's a lot of bad rap music oh oh but Jesus there's a lot of bad comedy there's a lot of bad film thing is about rap music I hate what people say like people say like it's bad rap music it always been bad rap music which one you want me to move that's the Hennessy oh my bad but look people say it like it's bad rap music it always been bad rap music I don't remember a time of my life where it wasn't bad rap music now it it's always some good there's always some bad is it like it's never been when you go to
Starting point is 01:16:23 county jail and that brother gives you that tape and he says dog this is the shit every year every year you could tell me about a good rapper I can tell you about the trash is shit that it was came out that year too it never was always was some trash shit that was cracking and I like the new stuff let me tell you something it's but I'm saying no it's right rap music always been what it is it is what it is that's what I'm saying it's what I really feel like to myself I'm just more like I love I'm a fan of rap but it's my environment that control that it's from where I'm from that's just my blood it's just what I
Starting point is 01:16:56 was like gang banging like people like we were talking about earlier with gangs I was born into rap music if I was born into a fucking rotten music I'd have been playing a guitar singing in a band now when who was the first rap that you heard that you said this is it I'm definitely a little cool day no shit radio no shit first I remember I was in kindergarten like I said I did that rap in the class so damn one day I remember my uncle I mean I knew my uncle he's my cousin uncle you know how it is you know so many baby daddies in the family type shit but my cousin uncle came in he was babysitting me he came and picked me
Starting point is 01:17:35 up from school and he was like hurry up niggas LL Cool J just came I ain't got time to be playing with you we got her to fuck up I'm trying to hear this shit and he dragged me to fuck like ran like in the rain like ran all the way to fuck home and once we got to the crib we got in the basement and then he whipped that fucking he whipped it out and it was that fucking album with that fucking radio on it on the cover pulled that vinyl out and put it on a plate and that fucking first two beats dropped and all I remember just was like oh yes this is what I'm doing with the rest of my
Starting point is 01:18:19 fucking life facts like ain't nothing else for me like this is what it is and who's solidified it was the second album ever since then that's what it was the second album like I say ever since then I was just a it was it was on like so I probably like bad shit before I realized what was good you get me because I still went through the phases of a kid liking like shit like kid and play like I was still a kid like an MC Hammer you know I still liked it I didn't know what was good rap music or bad rap music but the point is was that I had a young dad like my dad bought me Wu Tang's first album he just gave it to me I didn't
Starting point is 01:18:59 know who the fuck Wu Tang was just bought Wu Tang album and just gave it to me like listen to this shit but you know so it was to the point I was on a level like that with my dad but he knew how I like rap music you know you said earlier like like you like the writing a lot could you make a living just like writing lyrics for people but that's the hard part do I want to write the songs that make that type of money that will support that type of lifestyle you give it I'm saying because right now you gotta think with rap music like we say it's still like you say it sucks so we gotta make rap music good
Starting point is 01:19:35 how can you make rap music good you know this point like people making shit like you say like the shit you like like Zeppelin and Sabbath rappers being like progressive and experimental at this point you know motherfuckers are still doing them same drug and you know I'm saying and doing rap music and I like that that is I feel like you know like it almost sort of it almost was at that point where it almost like some 70s shit but it never really could just break the mold you know I'm still in the middle I never saw avatar okay so now the movie gets selected to piss me off because listen if I gave a three-year-old
Starting point is 01:20:26 seven hundred million dollars they could give me back something that's not bad within a fucking year okay my mentality is this I like rap music I don't like it over produced okay that's something with me that's why I like it minimal that's what I said I like it minimally produced and I still want to feel like I'm there I want to feel like I'm walking to get a nickel bag facts if that's not beating like I'm going to get a nickel bag doesn't scare you if it's some shit you can play around your fucking grandma this is shit you can you know I'm saying it's some PC shit like no I like the Beastie Boys would I take them into
Starting point is 01:21:06 battle with me not I like the Beastie Boys people get mad at me you don't have the Beastie Boys but back in the day with the equipment and shit that they were using to make rap music and with all the shit that they was doing like creatively and experimentally like with compared to what we do today it's not even coming close like these to have like 12 samples on one record but you go back listen to those public enemy records with like bomb squad and shit it's like the shit is you can't even pay you wouldn't even be able to fucking clear that type of shit you wouldn't be able to even make those type of records to
Starting point is 01:21:52 that they fucked it up not saying they fucked it up because they made amazing music doing what they did but you couldn't even do that type of shit right now these have like 10 samples on one song I would love to do shit like that you know with me but it's expensive to make rap music the way I want to make it and it's cheap to make rap music that's popular right now it's the best way I can explain do you have to balance making songs that are you think you're gonna be popular versus songs that you actually I mean I just don't that's not my world you know I just look I'm happy with what I meant like I
Starting point is 01:22:34 say I came in this shit just thinking if I could get a fuck if I could just be fresh and pay my rent and smoke I'm happy with that and I surpassed and I way surpassed that I got out of jail fucking 2007 with it like I'm gonna be a rapper dream you know what I'm saying and it's 2017 10 years later and like fuck I've been here in five years already like it's already you know I'm saying like I'm already trying to explore other options at this point what's Tony better play that Tony Bennett coxsucker I want to be around to pick up the pieces when somebody breaks your heart
Starting point is 01:23:32 some somebody is why it's a smart somebody who will swear to be true as you used to do with me who'll leave you to learn that misery loves company wait and see I mean I want to be around to see how he does it when he how much fun did you have in County shit I think I don't know if you call it luck but I got lucky lucky I got fucking lucky man and I got the best fucking job in the jail man and I worked you know I worked in the kitchen first to be out to see but it all breaks down a rap music so when I got like so break down of what you said earlier Lee I was asking me how
Starting point is 01:24:53 did you feel when you first I didn't know that when I first got caught my case according to distribution and manufacturing case for weed how do you manufacture weed I don't know what the case know what it was was that I posted got a possession with intent to distribute but we had a gun you know when they rated us we had a gun so they was like we've dropped the gun case if you take a distribution with manufacturing you know lawyers that's what we bargained so that's what we took we took the distribution case over the manufacturing case because that was gonna get us the probation I mean I guess
Starting point is 01:25:22 it was a I don't know why I took that but I got probation for that and you know me I just violated the probation off rip like not even I think I know I didn't try for it I just started smoking weed and started seven like I still just I just never act like it ever happened but I still went like I ran away for like five years before I even got caught I was flying going to other states I remember I got caught in the airport one time me in my homie trying to go to my army just to like fuck with around with some bitches and shit and just like turn up and I had like 8,000 on me and my homie had like maybe like he probably
Starting point is 01:26:03 like more he had like 20,000 on him just in cash the children but you know you can't have more than 5,000 in there for what I thought it was tight yeah 10 10 10 what do you what right now but I don't know but whatever I had that warrant though what about the DEA grabbed us up just Detroit Airport the DEA grab us up just because we had too much money on this they said and they took us whatever took us in the room search that we ain't had shit you know they've never found it but money but then they ran my name they had that warrant and they asked me they said so we can just take this money or we could take you to
Starting point is 01:26:44 jail what's your choice oh my god we's body go to Miami it's my birthday my birthday weekend they shook down homie friends 22 Jess oh that's cold blooded cold they took it shit yeah they got me in my they got me in Detroit too coming back from Miami the choice fucking crazy I was coming from the improv to go to Montreal see that can't it's just Canada in general though and every time I go to Canada they fucking shake me yeah my plan was to land in Detroit Airport go to hotel in Detroit chill for a few days and then try to sneak into Canada somebody in
Starting point is 01:27:31 Detroit said they could help me go through the bridge yeah but no way before see before 9-11 I used to sneak into Canada through Buffalo because my friend's dad had a gambling could pass so they would just wave this motherfucker in and then he would drop me off at the bus station in that place and I would take a bus to Toronto I thought I could do that through winter no that's why I was gonna go so I go to fucking Detroit I'm at this hotel and like the second night I went out in Detroit I took a cab to Greek town yeah and I started walking around and I went to a bar and somebody sold me a grandma
Starting point is 01:28:14 and I went back to look for Coco's Coco house comedy and Coco's was closed so guess what my hotel was four blocks and Coco's I went right to the hood you know me 44 hours a night you get two free tiles street is this you remember hell hellstreet hellstreet people young the same way next to you people getting stabbed but you don't give a fuck so again this is lawless it was lawless they can't say no police is no they don't give a fuck you can do whatever the fuck you want you can literally like I've literally seen people get killed like I this has to be 19 years ago I think about
Starting point is 01:29:11 it all the time Lee I think about it all the time I think about it like I might have fucked up right so I think about listen to this I'm waiting for the call I'm glad the chance to leave but I didn't I'm waiting I'm waiting for the Windsor I'm gonna get smuggled into Windsor listen to me this is 1998 okay 90 oh no it's still was hot I have no idea people and next thing you know the people come they meet Max and they said let me listen man it's gonna be really hard to get I told you I said god damn Detroit I hug these listen to me dog I hug these motherfuckers hug them I said
Starting point is 01:30:00 thank you we'll figure it out as I'm walking the streets of Detroit it's four o'clock I hear a horn beep I turn around and this is lesbian dude they meet me good let's be a lesbian chick Mimi Gonzalez and shit she was in town of Dukami and she'd have a hotel and I said so come stay with me because she was living in Havana at the time this is fucking crazy maybe Gonzales just saw you roaming the streets of Detroit me out here because I was a Cuban Jewish lesbian of course and she lived in how you saw a random
Starting point is 01:30:39 she saw me I don't listen when you're in Detroit you don't look up you look and you keep walking straight ahead I don't know nothing I hear horns beeping I don't know nothing I don't give a fuck if you're laying there and fucking way I like shit ain't wrong but fuck what I don't stop on nobody fuck that is Detroit she's yelling Joey Joey Joey that's great you have to grow up and know that like you have to be in steel with certain like it's like common sense and it's like street street common sense you know cities Detroit is a place where if you don't have street common sense you will get each up don't listen
Starting point is 01:31:29 don't take this fucking dude they hate don't take this dude they will roam into the street hit him with a car he goes down you were trying to be the good Samaritan no no mind your business American fuck talkers keep walking wherever you were going keep walking I'm gonna cancel my trip to Detroit dude on the street is a pigeon no this ain't just Detroit this is every city is anywhere they run a game everywhere anywhere with this tourism look the cops even it's no tourism in Detroit well they used to be no never yeah not to me like no no not to you as I've been
Starting point is 01:32:10 from that like I mean I guess it's like I say I remember being a kid and always hearing about Coco's house of comedy on the radio and I was like yeah and before that it was something else there was two of them but the main one was all things so Detroit is always like any place I feel like with that much depression always want some fucking light of sunshine so always was a comedy scene tons of time right tons from Royal Oak yeah to Traverse City one of my homies like he was like a comic from Detroit like he moved out here now he's starting to do good night yeah there was when I first got here there was four
Starting point is 01:32:49 brothers in Detroit that would turn it up up here they got a deal from Cosby's company they got a deal from Puffies company they called themselves something but then one of them got into a car accident Thomas Ward is still around they were funny motherfuckers in fact they lived up here they lived down the corner 20 years ago I used to hang with them. Any place that I feel like that is that the present to be at you always be able to create some type of way to make of like I say a rare sunshine you know I'm saying like even with me with rap music that was my getaway that was the way I escaped being where I was at me
Starting point is 01:33:28 going in my basement and just writing a song and recording it like I say I sing it to myself and I thought it was dope and like and then I make it and then other people was like oh shit is tight you know before I know like even with me with the internet shit that shit happened when I went to jail I didn't know about putting my music on the internet and then like that like to me I just thought internet was fucking going on chat rooms and jerking off on poor to some weird shit it's up I don't know you know I didn't know what the internet really was like that you know but when I was in jail my brother started putting
Starting point is 01:34:07 my songs on like random websites and shit and then when I got out of jail I kind of had like I missed that whole my space era when I got out of jail it was like Twitter was just starting where I caught on a Twitter early you know as a luck you know and then I just started being on Twitter and just started just promoting myself on Twitter like early like maybe it's like 2000 whenever Twitter started I feel like it was really like when it first started type shit cuz I remember that it was on the sidekick had the sidekick phone that's when I was I was never calling off the other side you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:34:42 like when you really had to type a whole person name you had to hit the you know what I'm saying like it wasn't even DMs I'm talking about you had to really say what you wanted to say on this shit I was on Twitter like really like cracking where there wasn't even DMs like and that's what I feel like my music took a turn that's when shit changed because before then it was like me just being in Detroit like going to open mics where I wasn't really accepted for the type of shit that I wanted to do with my music and then it was like when I went up to New York or if I went to LA because I was coming out here too you know I'm
Starting point is 01:35:17 saying trying to do music and stuff I never would fit in to what was popular or what was considered to be I don't know like to be I don't know I was just doing what I liked you know and it never would like I click with people in some type of way but once like I guess like 2011 like when Triple X came out it just it clicked you know it just was a time when it clicked because I was knocking on that door forever you know I was 30 years old my fucking when people started acknowledging me as a rapper like it's nothing worse to me like I feel like then telling a person you're a rapper like that's like the worst shit
Starting point is 01:36:00 ever to tell a person you're a rapper because you don't never supposed to have to tell a person you're a fucking rapper you feel they post it no if you have to tell a person you're a rapper then guess what you're not a fucking rapper and it's just embarrassing to even have to go through that you know now you said that your brother was putting the tapes on for you online yeah when I was where were you taping this no I was just random no I was going to New York what happened was okay had a group called reservoir dogs which is my cousin another homie chips and dopehead we had a we had a group called
Starting point is 01:36:38 reservoir dogs it made out when we put it out and it was kind of it was it was decent but it wasn't you know it wasn't nothing that was gonna change your life you feel me so but what we did we had money involved in us hold another world of the shit mother fuckers involved with us that was like doing bang scam shit like scamming the checks and shit so like them is trying to make this was the days of like like masterpiece and like cash money you know that shit came out so anybody with money thought they could just start a record label in one day they could become a fucking millionaire so I had a homie that was like doing
Starting point is 01:37:16 bang scam shit like the type of shit where you just that type of shit motherfuckers doing not like you got a bank account they just take a random check and deposit 10,000 in your account it clear they get you two thousand and take this you know I'm saying take the eight and then whoever find it they split they give them two thousand then they take in the six and he's to have like three people a day like he was just making late so he just invested in the record label one day with me rapping cuz I was just broke as fuck smoking weed in my fucking basement recording songs on a fucking four track and then he just made it he
Starting point is 01:37:52 made an album with me like put the money into it where I can get in the studio pay for producers and we made out magic group but it just and then we pay for songs to get on the radio like literally pay for DJs to play our songs on the radio and shit like that and like how much would cost a lot of fucking money like we got a nigga fire fire for the radio station that's where the guy like so much we paid his nigga like like five thousand to pay his own radio but the nigga played it like to the point where it got kind of like popular and shit so he was like doing like local shows and it was like popular but and so what
Starting point is 01:38:30 happened was he tried to take the music you know he's like I don't know what come we do so he went to like dev jam and like record labels with the music and shit and a nr at Rockefeller really liked the shit he really wanted to fuck with it like I'm trying to get it cracking but once they did the deal I mean did the meeting for it when they went into the shit I don't know I wasn't there I'm not there yeah I don't know what the fuck was said to me when they came back and was like this shit didn't happen it was a bit like I just was hurt like all I knew was motherfuckers went to New York and motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:39:00 met with motherfuckers and they said it was trying to do a deal and then the next thing I know the deal didn't happen but what ended up coming out was that the motherfucker that went in there that put the money into it went in there you know talking crazy talking you know just extra and trying to get you know just talking you know so that didn't happen but some type of way I still got the a nr connect from one of my friends that was there with one of those guys and I just contacted him and told him who I was like I'm Danny Brown for the group reservoir dogs I had this you know he's like oh yeah I remember this shit I
Starting point is 01:39:33 put that shit you could come out here you know our chick and I was making my own solo shit at the time already so I had a mix tape already that I made and I just came up there with that mix tape and then he took me to a studio in Queens and I just started recording at that studio and I made like three mix tapes there like I'm talking about years we talk about years of work now like I would go to like fucking New York like have like I was broke as fuck like I was living sleeping on couches I'm down at homeless at this point I'm bouncing from like my arms to grandmas to like aunts sleeping where I like to sleep
Starting point is 01:40:09 smoke or whoever weed I could smoke you know bumping cigarettes like that type of shit saying I'm gonna be a rapper you know just trying to figure it out thank God I'm with the jail to be honest because I think going to jail made me a rapper because before the end this this is before jail this is when I had the warrants and I couldn't you know already with it and I already violated the probation so now I'm just trying to be a rapper but I know in the given moment police can fucking type my name and it's a rap you feel what I'm saying and I'm flying I'm that's why I was catching the Greyhound in New York so I go to great
Starting point is 01:40:41 I go to fucking New York with fucking $300 sleep on the fucking studio floor and he was because he gave me that the A&R and Rockefeller didn't even had that much pool to even get me signed nowhere I didn't do anything but he was just I was able to come out there and he would you know show me love be able to sleep at his crib and fucking you know go to the studio record music I will just try to record as much music I can make and like I say eventually I had enough songs that when I went to jail my brother just made mixtapes out of them I didn't one thing about doing none of that type of shit I was thinking about getting a
Starting point is 01:41:16 fucking record deal because that's what I knew to be a rapper so when I came back home out of jail I kind of had like a name a little bit like my mind space like had like fans like he had people writing me in jail and shit like Danny Brown and all this shit and I'm like oh shit you know maybe it is something you know and once I got out of jail was like oh shit but I went right back to hustling though when I got out of jail though I still had the fucking because I was still kind of like homeless though that's the worst part like you want to get out of jail like I felt like that was the worst day to me to be honest like you say like how
Starting point is 01:41:55 fun much fun you had in jail and I had a lot of fucking fun but I remember the first day being out of jail and being like what the fuck now you know I miss that salami sandwich I mean I just knew in jail I mean I guess I wanted to be out of jail I didn't miss none of that shit I don't know that shit but I'm just saying I remember being like I mean I guess you institutionalize in that point or I don't know but I remember coming back and being like what the fuck I'm gonna do I didn't have a plan so I had to go back to hustling I remember I hooked back up with my homies and now they were selling weed but they was
Starting point is 01:42:36 getting the pounds from Arizona and the only job I could get then was like just loading the trucks up with the pounds of weed cuz flying to Mexico I mean not Mexico but applying to Arizona and these motherfuckers mix code niggas don't need to speak English none that they still in money like like the most sketches should have it been a part of and I just remember like I mean we was to like he would I would have to like fly out to like Arizona like low trucks up you know load the trucks up that's I get paid for put the weed on the trucks that's what I was gonna pay for but like 3,000 I would break like 2,500 a
Starting point is 01:43:18 run so it's like maybe doing like maybe one the mud you know and you're good it keeps your dream alive but I was trying to be a rapper at that time yeah that's what you're doing you're financing your dream and but every time I was doing it I feel like fuck I'm going to jail I'm gonna go back to jail like I was really scared like before like you leave like Greg said back in the day and I was selling crack in the apartments and shit I wasn't scared I wasn't worried about nothing but once I got to that like that shit like putting 3,000 pounds on fucking trailer tractor and fucking going to Miami with fucking $50,000
Starting point is 01:44:01 for ice on that ain't yours cuz they just want you to look good cuz they with you and you in this you never said like I'm like I'm going back to jail this is what I told myself in jail I'm not gonna do and then once I got back out I was right back in it you know so I was trying to be a rapper and what we hated as drug dealers was rappers what do you hate more than anything like when we went to like the strip clubs or like like niggas like had money like like real money like we go to Atlanta we go to fucking like you got real money like and you got these rappers that don't even got money like you got but the
Starting point is 01:44:39 bitches is all on the rappers all the strippers all the rappers if the rappers got a hit yeah I mean the rappers got a it was like that rap but even with me like that wasn't the drive of it but I remember like all my drug dealing like that life of being a drug dealer being around the drug dealing friends they hated rappers more than anything so me just popping up saying I wanted to be a rapper was like no one fucked with me after that like they just cut me off like literally like cut me off like stop fuck with me like you rap like I don't fuck with him I was rapping my whole life before I met them
Starting point is 01:45:15 they just didn't know it I bump into one rapper every week late hold this I gotta go to the bathroom but I bump into not Danny Brown rap but somewhere along the line if I go to an audition I go to a meeting there's always one dude in there with some fucking outfit on he's a rap he's a rap man it's embarrassing man I'm planning on it leave man what's up Danny the time is what's how much time we gonna live I don't know we got a few minutes left um what I was gonna ask what were you saying cuz I told a little people were super excited you were coming on and someone said like oh it's so funny that
Starting point is 01:46:13 people like know that I fuck with this shit so I know I like yeah how did that happen like how did you I watched hot ones and I saw it there no but the first time I saw was on Twitter yeah of course this is how fuck cuz you know I like video games a lot leave normal gamer like I play video games a lot you like video games I do but I'm not good at them so I quit yeah it's kind of like that with me yeah that's right well like I was you know but whatever but yeah I don't I don't finish a lot of games I started either but I buy them all I try them out and see them but I don't finish a lot of them but well how it really how
Starting point is 01:46:52 having with the video games just being on the road buying video games and I bought UFC that's a hard game too so I started playing UFC and from me started playing UFC I started like in Joe Rogan just from the video game versus I'm this is years ago though this is years in the process of this making okay so then I start watching Joe Rogan and see one day I see this guy Joe Rogan so now I become a fan of this guy this is all come from you know I'm saying from video this is the where it came from that's what you have see too I wasn't even a fan of UFC when I bought the video game it just was a cool game yeah this was on
Starting point is 01:47:34 it I was on tour I was on the road I just bought every video I was just you know you're on the bus you play video games you buy DVDs you watch movies you know so I was just one day on the road was like fuck it I'm about oh fuck it UFC a fighting game I've never been on the road play UFC I didn't even know if you have see fighter name at the time now I'm so engulfed in fucking you ever see is like runs my fucking world like my fucking you know I'm saying like and like I can't even explain it like it changed my life in some sense and like being like it even learning about like cuz even the point of like like I say like it went
Starting point is 01:48:09 from fucking just me buying that video game on the road and then hearing Joe Rogan on the fucking video game being like oh Joe Rogan is dope and just like and Joe Rogan to start watching real UFC fight for me like in a video game just the one I learned about the fighters that I was fighting with on the fucking game so now I'm learning now I'm watching real UFC so now I learn about Joe Rogan I like Joe Rogan so now I watch Joe Rogan podcast now I fucking learn about you you know what I'm saying now it just trickles down effect it's not just watched now part of church you feel it love it now here smoking dope on the
Starting point is 01:48:44 church and it started from a WFC video game on tour do you feel what I'm saying but that's the way life happens if you don't if you don't look at the little signs and shit and just realize it and just respect it with a word you feel when I was washing my hands I was thinking I want to ask you something this is how I felt you know I fucked around for years got locked up did my time and when I walked out of that prison I felt like all my sins were absorbed you know yeah me too though like that's how I felt that's why I never went back so I feel like and that's the most like to me the most
Starting point is 01:49:24 like I'm I rather died and go back to jail bro right the most that's the most scariest shit to me it's to go back to jail it wasn't that it was scary I just don't I just don't ever want to go through that I don't want to go through that I think I just pointed my life like I rather died and I just knew I like I say I have fun it was great and you tell me what County Wayne County it was I'm trying to tell you like with me I had the I had the best job which is the worst job and the best job in the Wayne County jail is fucking registry so I work registry and that's when you get registered in so the motherfucker that
Starting point is 01:50:08 work registry is the motherfucker that really control the whole county because when you come in guess what you got your cigarettes on you you may got a bag of weed in your ass you may got whatever that all happens in registry once you get changed out of your real clothes and get put in your greens and go to your flow whatever I'm the only nigga down there that works that fucking motherfucker like I'm the nigga get your cheese sandwich when you work in the shit you know I'm the only fucking male inmate that even interacts with female inmates I had so many fucking female bitches writing me I ain't even have people out
Starting point is 01:50:43 the outside right I would just take the fucking court slips and find a bitch and then see her and know her name and then just take the fucking her number and may never just write the bitch off rip I'm the nigga work at registry I see you going to court I'll be giving you your sandwiches I hope your case call me no way before we know it now we jerking up to each other letters but what a restaurant bit you build upstairs do you ever hear I have more bitches in jail in that jail right me I swear no one was right me on the outside there were like it was over for the eight months I didn't even want a letter from me I
Starting point is 01:51:26 want to visit I had it crack it once I got the registry and it happened for me being a fucking rapper like rapping because at first you know you get the fucking kitchen job and I was working fucking like the fucking dishes and that should they call that shit water world I was in water world working that shit motherfucking splashed up washing dishes and shit fucking up and then it was these two motherfuckers on my pie they ran my shit twos a big-ass nigga like fucking six fucking I don't know it looked like a fucking fucking Travis Brown is you know I'm saying he that's the nigga who ran my flow you know I'm
Starting point is 01:52:03 saying he wanted to be a rapper but he was trash I swear every bird like he was just so trash listen to this you know what I mean no he's not trying to jail right now but he was so trash and they used to rap every night like just all night like you like I would like when they lock us down that we'll be close to go to sleep okay here these niggas sales away just rap and they say it's just like the wackest like it's just so trash all night all night I told and I'm not even and I'm not even I didn't even tell niggas I could rap I ain't told them but they getting on my nerves so much like it's killing me like it's
Starting point is 01:52:45 irking me like it's making my skin crawl every night I can't even sleep right here in these motherfuckers try to rap every night so one day I just get fucking pissed off and just go in a fucking room and just unloads a clip and just give them like two verses just give them bars like and show them really how to do it like just rap for him and just and they were so fucked up but they felt deceived to that they wouldn't around me for months and they've been rapping in front of me and doing all this and then I just all of a sudden just come out the blue and do this in front of them so but they respect me so much and they knew
Starting point is 01:53:22 my case and they knew well you know because I would know no no I wasn't trying to be a rapper so once they saw that yeah I say he ran our flow the niggas was like six foot eight like diesel is fuck he tell you to turn the TV off motherfuckers turn the TV off you build them saying he ran our floor and he was the one that worked registry so once he left registry he gave me his job because he felt that I was going to become a rapper one day and maybe I would help him I don't know something but I was so good at rap to him that he always would invite me to his fucking sale and be like help me rap help me
Starting point is 01:53:56 write some bars or figure out some shit show me how to do this you know just and when he left he gave me his job so I had registry all your boys going through changes no but I was like what if he was going through changes see look I feel like I feel like I'm good like I ate the star I'm straight I feel like I really accepted it I thought I was really scared of it I accepted it you want whatever you want into with a clear mind yeah see I can't I respected it I went into a week see if you don't go on to shit with respect that's when you get fucked up there you go you know
Starting point is 01:54:33 what I'm saying you see it's that easy I'm not gonna go in there and try to talk to my niece I went by the e-fucking six stars so I come in here fucking with y'all niggas come on man anybody do me like that my niece called me tonight she was that one bad is Danny better really only me on the show yet they really don't be on the show I had no niece call me and she's like listen I had talked to you about something we started talking about one of the dates I have excuse me then she goes can I ask you a question I go why she goes are you trying to kill me thank you no she's telling me she goes the most fucked
Starting point is 01:55:14 and like this is the niece I can't really understand I can't see it this is the niece that I grew up with her uncle and her mother so she knows all the motherfucking stories when she was a baby they used to hide the coke under her crib so she'd be in the crib and this is her her mattress it would be in here right everybody knew that if you picked up the mattress you'd wake her up fuck that you don't know how many times I went in there five in the morning and creeped up that mattress just a little bit and got my little Cuban fingers in that motherfucking took that bag you know me dog I don't give a fuck but she goes it's weird how
Starting point is 01:56:02 you're tolerance she goes I see you eating I see you smoking I see you eating those stars and it's because I go into it like it's a situation I remember when if I were these five stars I'd be high for fucking 12 hours couldn't stop talking couldn't stop eating paranoid now I look at it just as a day in the office oh my god so how I go into it is how I walk out of it sure that's not how it works yes that's not how it works it does yes I mean you know more than us yes it does that's why I'm around with it but say yeah no here's a here's the thing like because you might be right I came like you say I got if I didn't
Starting point is 01:56:46 respect the star no I'm fucked up look at that after the week of sugar cubes the this yeah sugar cube yeah sugar cube week you still got sugar cubes we got paper acid too we got loose oh after the week after the week of sugar cube like the animals just on his heart anymore and these lights right here oh my oh yeah that's it yeah thank you but the tolerance thing I once I might ask you to roll my segue for like two hours my segue for two hours around my neighbor the wind felt so good I thought I was an angel flying with wings of my back bone moment I just know what about neighbors so I'd be like what the fuck
Starting point is 01:57:40 is Danny Brown doing he's running around the corner oh he holding his arms on like the end of the Titanic ship that's what I can't be doing like a lucid genetic drug that's your fuck me up for two I just do goofy shit I'm gonna listen I wanted that bathroom just now as soon as I turn on the light I got a flashback to that night I did the acid that fucked me up when you did when you cut that light off the night that me and him got high now Monday night I was straight I got a little high in here on the acid I went home went to bed the second night with Ralphie May there was a point in here I couldn't fucking talk
Starting point is 01:58:19 towards the end and I got up to go to the bathroom and my face was pale the light in there was green I wanted to pee I forgot what I went in there I washed my hands then I peed it was fucked up I came out here I'm like I'm fucked that's what I'm saying you are so bad you know what within 10 or 15 minutes are we acknowledging that I smoked a little reef I went home I made a fucking salami sandwich I got a corned beef from Grand Breast right now wait no me and within 10 minutes I was asleep it's the mental aspect they call Lee having to take us in Lee was up all fucking night he wanted to walk around if Lee would have gone home
Starting point is 01:59:04 made a tuna fish sandwich and sat down and watch TV within I can't watch TV on acid well yes you can you don't the craziest thing I have happened to me Danny Brad I'm writing about it right now like this is what I'm writing about like this like right after my mother died like they buried around on Monday but my mother's best friend said listen I'm gonna stay at the house so you could you're when you decide what you want to do you let me know and you could I'll leave and I go listen I think I'm gonna move with the benders Thanksgiving day but why don't you stay for two weeks and help me with
Starting point is 01:59:48 the transition so for the first week I was cool you know we're all cool for the first week we come home on when we were supposed to come home but the second week I started eating that acid again and she's living in my mom's bedroom and I'm living in my bedroom and I got my TV with the cable I did acid one night I came home and the blob was on Lee I was 16 years old when that thing was coming under the door and shit I started looking under the door but there's one scene in that movie and do what sit there in the dark gonna hit an acid no it's not no it's not you rather take the blob it's Steve McQueen there was
Starting point is 02:00:48 a little bit of comedy I giggled a little bit and I started getting paranoid it didn't help that I had the lights off I had to turn the fucking lights on once you turn the lights on everything all right I still got some acid in my house that I lost because I was just so geeked about it when I was out the acid that I have was having such a good time like I got a hide this shit and I don't even know where I look for it all the time but I don't even know where the fucking acid is that I feel ashamed that I did it it's in the house I don't know where is that like the first night I did it I felt okay but the second night I
Starting point is 02:01:24 started thinking about like I'm a 54 year old dad and I'm doing acid what the fuck is wrong with me I should be ashamed of myself I should be shot fucking hung and thrown under the prison for doing the head of acid what type of dad am I so now I'm on the fence about when I see Lee slipping we'll do some more sugar cubes just to make them there's no guidelines for that it's all like I could look at here that's why we look up like me like being like 36 and looking at you like I want to be like you when I'm 54 yeah alive and kicking and having fun doing acid I aspire to be like you you know I'm saying more so than to be
Starting point is 02:02:10 some like fucking just bored and just fucked with life and just stuck in some shit that I want to be involved in like you lived your life the way you want to live and now you you know I'm saying you're still doing that in some sense and there's some people that stuck in shit because they just like jobs they don't even want to work like we say in America to me the American dream is to fucking be able to make money off for doing something you love we have people that's fucking working jobs making a lot of money and pride don't even care about it and I mean I hate doing a fucking job you got people married to motherfuckers
Starting point is 02:02:45 people in relationships they don't fucking want to be in they don't want to be around that shit you know I'm saying and they stuck in that shit like but I feel like you as you know I'm saying like that's what I found when I first heard you I'm like this is how fucking growing to be you know I'm saying like I'm doing the fuck I want to do with my art you know I'm saying like you with your comedy and me with my rap I feel like it's the same kind of way I didn't sacrifice it for and maybe me like being so fucked up all the time I'll talk about all the time like that might be the reason that I didn't I mean I'm not
Starting point is 02:03:21 fucking like the fucking biggest rapper in the world or whatever the fuck like you know I'm saying I could still go out you didn't want to be but if you wanted to be you could be but you didn't want to be I still just want to do something with your life like I still kind of look at it like selling drugs though like long as I could be able to make money off it and like you're not like Detroit still dangerous I want never to be able still even to live there and pray do what I do if I didn't keep it as low key as I keep it like it's rappers it's local rappers that's probably get more trouble or more like acknowledgement
Starting point is 02:03:55 did not get and I'm fucking you know I'm saying but I like it like that like you said so I wanted it like that kind of to be honest but I still like I want I got what I want out of it I feel like in his I don't know like with far as rap music it's like I don't know if I like I'm so much it's only some more I could go with it you feel me before I could feel like like the next level for me is the only thing I feel like it's like running a record label like me just now like going into like finding those kids that was like me from Detroit that probably a major label wouldn't like dump in experimental just cuz you know like rap
Starting point is 02:04:42 music like you say it's bad rap music is not it doesn't have a good name I don't care like I'm a person that's in it you feel them saying like when you had a trenches of it when you had a trenches of some shit you could really talk about it you feel I'm saying like I don't know I you were talking like it's not have a good name and that guy in the prison it doesn't have a good name you feel them rap music but there's a lot of respect it's not like respect I know who's faking the funk you can hear it there's something about it that you know when they're faking the funk I was gonna ask about that I have no idea how many of
Starting point is 02:05:19 these rappers who were saying like like they were like they're doing what you just did like sell drugs or whatever like are they actually doing it most of them probably not I mean it's just like anything else is all entertainment anything for entertainment purposes so anybody that even if I did sell some drugs I probably would exact exaggerated more just to make it more absolutely muffle the soda dime bag until you so keys you know what I'm saying like so I had three dudes working with me let me give some shout out for facts Maverick Matthews I love you Ed ski who Galdi stay black my man Leon over there in
Starting point is 02:05:58 Germany Amy thank you for the birthday wishes Tiger Armstrong the Alexander trip Berg Bergie Bergie my main Armenian over there always we talked yesterday Jimster Daniel Riley and Nick Nightingale you know Nightingale you know I love you cocksuckers don't forget I'll be over at the Minneapolis House of Comedy Thursday night bitches Friday and Saturday don't fuck around bring the reefer bring the pills that killed Prince whatever you got a wheelchair roller skates I don't give a fuck Jack I love Prince man I love Prince too proper rain was like right I remember like I'm saying like that's feel like
Starting point is 02:06:46 let's make my childhood I remember coming home from school like my mom's like watching purple rain my whole house like smell like weed but like you say it was still different shit and ball like when I was coming home I was coming home to a fucking clean house though sparkling speaking span in a fucking cooked meal you smell it too over the weed like nowadays like fucking kids like they mind fucking Peter McDonald meals and shit like it's not even like I don't know like he said like it was a different type of parenting even though my mom was young I still got that old school parenting because it was
Starting point is 02:07:23 that I don't know if it's that generation or that because maybe my grandmothers raised me more so than my mom's when I think about it now you know cuz she was so young she couldn't really take care of me because I really went to my Filipino grandma because you know me I was the first I was the I was your Filipino grandma what you think I put a peanut ground crazy did a mother fucker she love you I mean it was it was just she spoiled me a little it was spoiled but it was like spoiled crazy so I had to deal with being spoiled to deal with crazy so like I could get those Jordans
Starting point is 02:08:01 and I can get all that shit that I wanted that my mind breaking before my grandma could get for me but if she came home and like the house wouldn't clean or like little like weird shit like that she would like freak the fuck out like just like be like trip on me like it's like weird like I couldn't do shit I couldn't bring girls over couldn't like it was just like extra strict like extra extra strict my Filipino grandma was like Catholic but give me Pentecostal which is actually like I was the fucking church every Sunday church is like when I really realized I was like really wasn't like
Starting point is 02:08:42 like I was like fingering bitches and church yeah I was like that's what I really like did all my cuz I was like I have to go to church with her every Sunday like I live with her like my brother like my mom's you know like so I look like I live my grandma and shit cuz I wanted to be the only child like that so cuz I was the first one I don't know I guess that's how it is when you like the oldest one I don't know like kind of like jealous I don't know but so me going with my grandma was like me been on each I have my own bedroom I didn't have to share shit and have to do no sense so I wanted to live my
Starting point is 02:09:22 grandma I won't do that but she was like way more strict than my black parents like the black shit so once I got older I was like fuck Filipino shit I want to go just nigga shit what is Filipino music like I don't know I mean it's a sign of a better Filipino the only thing I know is my grandma I don't know yeah I see the other Filipinos I met was at the church going to church with my grandma you know other than that it's not like a real big Filipino community in like Michigan I don't think but I don't know but that's only Filipinos I met was like going to church before that like but the lifestyle
Starting point is 02:09:57 like she still lives like she fucking in Manila she don't know fucking she met some other fucking that was came from Detroit like I never met my fucking granddad I don't know what like I feel like I got his blood all the way like I don't even know who he was but I probably feel like that's who I am probably that you know I'm saying like they say he was tall as fuck he just was like a savvy but the thing was he may he wasn't using a Peace Corps you know I'm saying during the Vietnam shit and whatever the fuck my grandma was a school teacher in Manila he met her brother back to Detroit but then when
Starting point is 02:10:31 he brought it back to Detroit he ended up being a savage beating the shit out of her and saying like just wild and he died of alcohol poisoning but I don't really believe I'm like 36 35 or whatever you know I don't really like you know I don't know people who died alcohol poisons I don't even know motherfuckers that overdose of coke right now you know I'm saying like you can't even overdose of coke right now that shit is like so bad right now I don't even know like who even would want to do code right now but let me ask you just don't tour a lot I just came off a fucking four month tour where'd you go I went
Starting point is 02:11:26 everywhere the United States in Europe no shit office on the bill me and another artist signed to my label the loopers so just and when do you go back again I'm not trying to go no time soon I guess whenever something else work out it happened but first but I guess that's the most like I don't like you said I don't I don't make money off music I make money off shows you know so about 10 I mean I'm playing festivals are I play festivals you know let's say maybe 10 15 years ago I'm just giving you numbers I lived down in Hollywood and the kid upstairs unbeknownst to fucking
Starting point is 02:12:09 me who I saw every day and talk to and he'd walk up down but now with a fucking guitar box you know I thought he was a student up the corner big of a fucking guitar right but one day we're talking in the back there's like a fourth of July barbecue and somebody's gonna show when are you going back on the road with limp biscuit this was the opening band for limp biscuit so you know after the barbecue I saw him a few times and one day we're outside and I asked him to smoke a joint and we started talking about can I ask you some personal questions so you're on tour with limp biscuit he goes yeah this is limp
Starting point is 02:12:58 biscuits biggest tour we do six cities and then somebody else does six cities then somebody else does six then we go back I go how many cities how many cities are they doing all together at the boat I'm just throwing numbers at you at the time he goes they're doing 43 cities and I go how many shows do you guys on and he goes we're on like 32 so I go can I ask you a question why do we see you waiting for the fucking bus it's not right and he goes what are you talking about I go dog I get $15 a show and I got a fucking piece of shit caught it's got no insurance and the brakes hardly worked but at least nobody giving it a
Starting point is 02:13:42 New York try and he was telling me his deal yeah and it was they gave him an amount the album came in top 10 like number six it did well but not for the 70s stances it did well for 1998 and lip biscuit it was on limp biscuits label somebody's label and limp biscuit took them out just tore with them and that's what they played for they paid for per diem hotel travel that's it and cuz you pay I mean that's what a lot of people don't even understand that part of the world to I was like what even be like even some of these festivals you can't even play these festivals if you don't have the money to pay for them you got
Starting point is 02:14:28 to pay for your own flight in your own room they're just saying like a big festival like a coach like some sort of shit if you're not the artist that they want like you know if they booked you to make you to the point where they like you should be happy that you're on this festival type of shit it's like you pay for your own room and you're on flight you know I'm saying so if you ain't got that money to do that shit then you can't even do that you feel me so you got to turn that festival down thank God always had the money to be able to do that and I think that's what made me because I think I took all the
Starting point is 02:15:00 fucked up shit that I did in drug dealing I didn't do it with rap music so I always had the money to be able to play those festivals and cover those grounds so anytime a big festival came to me and it was probably something that I prayed like a lot of shit I prayed did I probably won't even on that level to pray play at but I was able to afford it to do it and I was had that name so I could bring that draw so like now it's like I'm too big I'm too it's like I'm in a space where it's like I'm too big for them to over it like you can't really it's like how it was when I started it I don't know if I respected
Starting point is 02:15:39 enough like I can't explain I'm humble and I'm fucking and I appreciate everything that I got from it but it's not like it's not it doesn't like I don't know like it doesn't drive me like I don't want to wake up in the morning and write a rap song well you're pretty good at it so unless you're gonna become a weatherman you better get back to just the words of Paul morning when you want to be creative you're gonna get entertained no oh no and that's what I do and I know that no that and that's what I try to do a lot no I'm never was I would rap for
Starting point is 02:16:19 the rest of my life but I'm saying my whole point of your number one ambition and that's what I'm look now let's draw back to that now I told you in the beginning my favorite rapper was Nas right my last like when I got out of my last deal now I was trying to sign me to his label and mass appeal and you know we click you know we talk so you like being your idol like you know you know they say you never should meet your idols type shit like I'm meeting the fucking person that make me like you didn't want to do this shit that I want to do and when I talked to him he told me that I was just more than a rapper
Starting point is 02:16:57 that's what his breakdown was like you away more than a fucking rapper and I just thought about that shit all the time like what does he fucking mean by that right what do we mean but I'm more than a rapper so always everything I tried to do shit that was outside like just try to do more than rap so like doing voiceover work or just trying to even do like I'm fucking auditioning for movies and shit which fucking sucks cuz I don't ever get like going on auditions is not something that like I'm not that's not a part of my world like is it frustrating do you wish you didn't now like I'm close I'm almost close to
Starting point is 02:17:36 getting the road like I'm close I could probably say I got it but I don't even want to mention it but it's fun close yeah all this is all that stuff is fun and and you know Jim Brown played football any fucking shot movies you know and and now you know you put American gangster on how many fucking rappers are in that movie TI common you know you didn't soundtrack but even like you even with comedy though like I even feel like even sometime with that like now like even look at comedy with Netflix so many fucking comedy specials on there unbelievable and I don't like you can't even watch them all too much
Starting point is 02:18:22 content I mean most of them name is a good one month every month I found on YouTube that's better like some random like it's almost like rap is like the way comedy like comedy is cracking right now but it's almost like underground shit the way rap was like I find myself listening to more podcast and I do music now and I find it fucked up because I make music and I don't even know what's cracking right now new music because I listen to podcast I'm listening to the fucking church I'm not looking at the blog looking at what the fucking newest hottest mixtape is now I'm listening to fucking podcast now it
Starting point is 02:19:04 gets just like a growing up I don't know and that's organic because I'm just doing what I like because I could still be studying fucking bullshit rap music and trying to fucking be a fucking 18 year old right now and fucking by the big 36 you feel me like I can't be fucking jumping around on stage like put up when I'm 50 years old you feel me so I'm in that transition point right now you know and I just really just want to like to be secure in life because rap music is selling dope to me it's a gamble like cuz you can you can be successful for 10 years and be fucked up you know I'm saying like right now like
Starting point is 02:19:46 I'm good right now fucking 36 years old but 46 I could be fucked up fucks up on which way financially and I'm not trying to be fucked up in 10 years in no type of way like I came in because people look at it and then that's the second call to it where you see these motherfuckers flying private jets and having the biggest you know I'm saying make a you know I'm saying like they fuck with not even a half of the shit that you put into what you do you give it I'm saying but that shit only lasts for a minute you know like I say I wanted a career out here I didn't want to fucking fly by night fucking rap
Starting point is 02:20:35 fucking one hit wonder type of bullshit you know and I'm building a natural fan base and I'm real humble and I'm real fucking appreciate tell what I have but I just know the state of music that fucking the genre of music that I do is not really like it's nuts like I can't really like look at it like like it's not insurance for me I can't say and I can't trust it that's what I'm gonna say I can't trust it at this point you know it's like selling dope to me no it's look at it like that which I kind of love but like cuz nothing like how you're back against the wall and that's what probably makes me produce the
Starting point is 02:21:17 best shit that's a lovely make me have like cuz I it's I know like any give every project could be over for me one trash album and then it's over I'm back to figure it out I might be buying some weed going back and try to buy some pounds of weed but here's the beauty going back I did into this okay let's talk about who what's the name of that girl that sang that Tom diner she also sang that song my name is Luca I live on the second floor I'm just giving an example this woman okay this woman's no ball of fire what was that again though what to me this on Tom diner Tom diner yeah that was that was like a big
Starting point is 02:22:07 deal okay when I was gonna take a girl like her for example Suzanne Vega Suzanne Vega had two fucking big commercial hits Tom's diner got to know when Tom's diner came out with that was a commercial hit that Suzanne Vega still a hold on 87 that's 34 that's what I love but what's he doing that's what I'm saying okay so that's 30 years so it's to the point that's what I'm saying to the point in my life where I want to look at it like I could be able to do this I wanted to be able to do rap music and I want to make rap music just because I love doing it and not and I'm a fan and I want to have fun and I want to make
Starting point is 02:22:46 music for the people that you'll make the fans that like what I do I want to make music for them and like that shit but it has become so expensive that I don't even know if I can afford it no more let's say that it has become so expensive that I don't even know if I can afford it no more you know so to make the time is that I want to make and then it's that music that's popular is cost half the music that I'm trying to make so it's almost like a losing game already before I even started playing you hear me so it's like selling dope it's like being a hustler which I love it sometimes because it's like being
Starting point is 02:23:26 wearing from Detroit if I was like some like I've been doing what I'm doing for a long fucking time and been real like making good money and business successful in that sense but if I was like it's rappers that's don't even have like a quarter of what I have and they go through way more trouble just because they way more popular because like they hot like with police so they say fans of the police I'm still being able to make money and kick my feet up and hang out with my cats and fucking from Britain Hills and have to worry about nobody trying to even worry about where I live at and even be weird with me like I can
Starting point is 02:24:05 go out every day and people don't say shit to me and don't fuck with me only time people fucking me is when I go to big cities when I go to New York when I go to LA my like it's just big cities that's when I get recognized and people like oh Danny Brown shit but when I'm in Detroit when I'm at home I'm at fucking the grocery motherfuckers they hate to see me almost type of shit it's like what the fuck you doing here if a person know who I am they hate to see me that's how Michigan is that's how Detroit is and you live in Detroit full-time I live in Farmington Hills well I shouldn't say that but I live in the suburbs of
Starting point is 02:24:41 Detroit be living in Detroit full-time so you fly a lot all the time that's why I move closer to there so about yeah so will you go back in the studio some I mean the studio is in my house with me I fucking I rather go back in the studio to be recording lines for some cartoon TV show or some you know I'm saying an album but with me or it's making songs I can't really count it like yeah it just really happens organically like I just get music I get beat and I might get bored one night or if I'm working on the app or a project I have I know to put these beats on every night probably like any like a comedian price it down
Starting point is 02:25:30 I want to write jokes every night I know I gotta sit down and write an album you know I gotta write these songs with me I was I was an Adderall Adderall is my shit and so I take Adderall and sit down fucking smoke a house to weave fucking probably about two cigarettes and write like five songs no but then I just write probably like and I probably do this for like a year not even record them and then once I get done once I feel like I got enough shit where I'm comfortable enough cuz I like you know you know it is when you write some shit and it's so good you just memorize it like you in a shower you just taking a shower and you
Starting point is 02:26:09 ain't recorded this like I don't know for you like you ain't even say this joke you didn't even did this bit but it's so good to you already to yourself you just already saying it to yourself and I have a song in my head I'm already grooving to that shit like damn it's gonna be late so I got a record and that's how I know when to record that song and put that shit out so when you have the lyrics down you already know you got the lyrics where's the beat come from your boy yeah your homies you can't even I don't I don't start till I get a beat but I don't even start writing the songs like a hook that hooks is the
Starting point is 02:26:44 number one thing like people don't really really I mean that's the money maker you can't really you can't really be a successful musician writing wise if you can't even write hooks and you can be the best rapper in the fucking world you can't write a good though the worst rappers have the best hooks at this point what is the most successful I mean the chorus okay the chorus I mean if you could just write choruses and rap music like that's all that matters now you don't even have to be like a great lyricist you don't have to be the best chorus of all time I love it when you call me big papa that was amazing damn
Starting point is 02:27:24 that is a great question fucking Uncle Joey what is the best fucking chorus and rap music of all time and you know what you know what I would say to be on some rap music shit the best rap chorus probably won't even rap it was just some shit that was scratched or wasn't a chorus like just being that real like the best rap chorus in this motherfucker probably was Jay-Z I don't need a hook for this bitch that's what the hook was I don't need a hook for this shit and then he went back in so something like that I would probably say was the best chorus when Joey says he would go crazy when he'd hear black Sabbath if you hear Jay-Z
Starting point is 02:28:11 going I'm gonna need a hook for this shit do you know my go crazy like go crazy for me music it's like like I'm really like I like like I want shit to like I want like we're rap music I want to make like one do bad shit like rap music I post the one up fucking feel like I want to murder you like the first time I heard cheap keep like you know what I'm saying like I want to like if rap music doesn't scare me if it doesn't feel like I don't post it like I don't feel like this is not good they get not good in you know what I'm saying like it's not nothing that supposed to be on the radio is not in the net supposed to be cool
Starting point is 02:28:49 with your grandma and be able to play that fucking picnics and fucking the rap music is supposed to be some shit that she supposed to be like oh the fuck no that shit is only supposed to be listened to in your headphones in your basement your personal time like the shit this person is saying like you listen to those really too short records like freaky tails like you can't even play that shit out loud right now and not feel comfortable like so how is he playing that shit back in the day and being comfortable like the 80s is crazy like growing up in the 80s was crazy in some sense that's why I'm like when you
Starting point is 02:29:25 be talking about the 70s and shit like I really like just like really wish I was like a part of the world I got wish I was like the 70s him like the best decade ever first time I heard that was when I was locked up and it was the third spot I went to which was primarily black and I said this on bird crisis podcast I go bird crisis if you think black people talking movie theaters wait till you go to Cali Jail spend the night you don't know nothing that's why when you vote listen that's why when you told me that they wrap in prison at night I just died because if I listen to bad rap it gets deeper than that like Uncle Joey like I
Starting point is 02:30:18 had a I had a bunkie that the thing was oh my god do you know you could take a garbage bag and like wrap it over your toilet and then you know you flush all the water out your toilet and you just put your ear to the bowl and then just yell down a bowl there's other motherfuckers that did that and then now you talking with them like that was like internet chat lines and it's bulky like he woke up they call it flesh in the talk like they were flushed like boom he didn't get a plastic bag knock all the water out you and your bunk I'm in the top bunk trying to go to sleep and you're having a conversation
Starting point is 02:30:59 this motherfucker gonna flush the water out the bowl now he got his head at the bowl trying to talk them what's up what's up dog yeah yeah and next thing you just somebody flushed a ball right yeah like that who's this little rock do a toilet like the same time you got a shit on and piss on you got your face on that bitch like it's motherfucking night like you on Skype like they skyping every night and you might come across some shit every night and I wake up this nigga might be doing some weird shit won't they see them tomorrow I won't they get to hang out in the morning
Starting point is 02:31:34 How are you in jail? Where? I don't know Doesn't matter no talk Lee they will talk like I would be here and the funeral parlor is across the street I'm just saying like and they would yell from the south oh yeah no that was on there the brothers would yell yo Toray yo what up what up where you at yo Toray where you from I'm down for me in Washington you got a cousin named Tina
Starting point is 02:32:01 I asked him in the morning I think one thing I learned about jail and it was probably like the best thing it exposes whoever you are like if you really if you tough like that like you tough like that if you a bitch-ass nigga like you a bitch if you a fact like you a fact like if you like whatever you are and like you can fake in the real world but once you go behind them walls as a man like we gonna find like we gonna really what are you you know you really find yourself I don't know like I can't I want to say that like it's like some type of retreat
Starting point is 02:32:39 if you go there you make it out like you can figure it out like it really is like but you find yourself in that motherfucker you really figured out who you are like no I'm not like these motherfuckers like I watch a nigga get raped through the sale I mean like a registry job like as you know cuz you know motherfuckers come from upstate and they gotta come to the county to go to the gym and he had to get a nigga cheese sandwich the nigga grab them through the sale like the nigga he give him a sandwich knock them out I don't know how but he knocked them out
Starting point is 02:33:20 some type of way and was fucking this nigga through the sale like he in his cell this nigga on the outside we would you take dick or cheese sandwich and this is county jail this ain't prison this ain't going upstate this fucking county okay I saw it again fuck nigga don't talk it okay if I if I ever had to go there could I could I just talk the worst thing I had let me tell you the worst thing I dealt with in jail because I work registry now I'm gonna put this shit out there cuz it needed to be put out there it needed to be put out there this is a story they need to be told this is the story that either be told
Starting point is 02:34:05 and Danny Brown like like some real shit like get your recorders ready like real shit so look I'm working like I said I'm in a county I'm working registry it's to the point I got the motherfucking police officers on my line like all the fucking CEOs they love me I don't even eat the jail food no more Joey they bring me Burger King I'm motherfucking taking subway sandwiches up to my bunk like I'm living that type of life in county jail you feel what I'm saying like the fucking police I'm like teachers the fucking police love me and this mother but you know what I'm saying so I get but I get out of cigarettes you build
Starting point is 02:34:39 I'm saying I'm the nigga cuz I work registry that's the point of registry so but all the people before me was sale cigarettes I smoke so much cigarettes and I'm getting people sending me money like my homies from like I said the homies I was hustling for they sending me money so I don't need to even need to sell cigarettes to make money in jail for commissary because I always got full of commissary books like I you know since I was in tripping on making money like that's why I just smoke cigarettes so the whole jail hated me I really flipped the whole jail when the homie gave me his job and left he was selling cigarettes
Starting point is 02:35:13 he left out and show me like he got like five thousand like he got to make fire racks in like eight months he was like that for a year or two I got me fire racks in eight months but you better make money while you locked up and leave home with some money which I wish I probably should have did cuz I went home broke like I told you like my second day being home on like what the fuck am I gonna do but anyway so I was just smoking all the cigarettes like I would take motherfucking was going to next floor is getting my hair braided by motherfuckers like all type of weird shit you know I'm saying see I didn't
Starting point is 02:35:43 forget what I was talking about there you know that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that what I'm even talking about when was I into it you were talking shit about the star of death when was I into it this story I don't even remember it but whatever if I had a guard forbid anything ever happened could I like go to a guard and just say put me in solitary you don't want to do that Lee jelly you know what is about Jim no it's just be yourself just be who you are I don't want to be anything like you like I said expose you for who you is so if you if you like now
Starting point is 02:36:23 really about that life I'm not well you like was that isn't that what happens Joey's talked about it like some kid like me just like a DUI or something and end up in there well that seems like the worst place probably I'd probably be on a negative it's just that those big states like LA and like I hear like shit about Texas like a motherfucker get locked up like a DUI you get lost in the system like shit like that you supposed to be a fucking you supposed to get out and then you end up doing six months like you know I'm saying like shit like that like I hear a story like even me but hang on I put I want
Starting point is 02:37:01 to do a year for it cuz now look what we doing now you got fucking dispensaries we buy we for free all I got like that for selling we I did eight months in my life for selling weed you know you can go by we for free every fucking day y'all gonna give my eight months back every every fucking state trying to fucking legalize we that's what I did time for Joey you all right no no I got allergies you did time for everything else you did head that's right the worst thing I had you see that's what I'm saying like the
Starting point is 02:37:42 fuck the worst fuck them shit that's what fucked our spot up I remember one time like one time we got ready like I said we used to get rated so much that we was used to the shit we used to have a fucking ounce hit on the roof so we're going to fucking roof and we had his weed we're going there was one of the cops chasing the roof they couldn't even get up there they wanted to because it was a chimney so they was to come it was like a ladder if they was to come so you said say it was a fucking seven story apartment right so you got to the highest floor the seventh floor and then you saw a ladder you go up this ladder
Starting point is 02:38:15 and it's like a lot it's like a padlock so you think it's locked so when you push it it feels like it's locked but it's just us sitting on it because they were pushed on it they would get there and push on it but it was us sitting on it you know I'm saying but if you went there like soon as they raided we would just run instantly and run to that route open that shit up we sit in the roof close that shit up boom sitting on it I got a pack of cigarette one fired up and we smoke and we just wait in the sea we look over and just see how our neighborhood reacts and know if the poll we can see the bands and know if they
Starting point is 02:38:45 go and shit like that you know they left but one day we got raided right we like fuck it whatever the fuck we got raided but they taking we getting so used to raise well we don't give a fuck no more we don't give a fuck that we don't give a fuck so much that we like fuck it why they raiding we still just left from the roof and just came down and just went down through the shit and just went out the back door like fuck it and we came out the back door and then we went to the gas station like wrapped in sodas wrapped in blunts or whatever the fuck and we're like walking up the block and shit and then we seen this
Starting point is 02:39:25 little kid on the porch and we're like fuck it let's just you know I ran and sat on the porch and the kid name his name was little bee which is the funniest shit his name is Brian but we caught him little bee this is like 2000 fucking I don't know 2001 little bee so I met little bee he's from Oakland just a funny shit in the world he telling me about fucking og kush all this type of crazy weed that I never even heard of in my life but I end up liking this little kid he only like 13 14 you know I'm saying like I told you we had this spot for like so this is like the first year of us having a spot in us are getting
Starting point is 02:40:04 raided you know I'm saying but I met this kid little bee already grabbed the kid from a man I told you like once once once the spot started making money I went back to school and started recruiting and I grabbed the kid was his baby James that's my homie so I had baby James work with me then doom was just like my foot I had done with me so had like two niggas in the spot with me with that and they was like surpass me quickly that's how I knew I wasn't a good drug dealer like because like all I was doing was buying video games and like clothes like instantly they had like benches in car and houses and shit like
Starting point is 02:40:41 two weeks of them working around me like I brought them into the shit and then before I knew it they was like way more successful than me and like soon as like instantly so I end up meeting this kid little bee and I'm like fuck it I said on his porch while my spot was getting raided and I smoked the blood with him and then I end up brought him into the mix but he's little bee 14 oh my god but he turns out to be a fucking psycho like one day like I put him in the spot and I put him up on game okay I'm just gonna fast forward not just gonna make a long you know just make a long story short but so now he already with the
Starting point is 02:41:18 shit he in the spot and one day I just come back to the spot that's when I knew it was like all the way like full fledged crazy like I come back to the spot he in there working with us and I come back to the spot and he like yo the nigga owe me for some money so I kidnapped him he in the closet right now he got a muffin crackhead that owe him $20 just trapped in the closet like on some open like we don't even trip on fucking credit like where we how we hustle like that is like a 20 or whatever like you know you gotta give a hundred and credit from time to time it's like what made me like being like
Starting point is 02:41:58 popular like I didn't even had a name Danny my name was Daniel all the way so I started giving out credit they're cracking it started calling me Danny like to be like Danny what's up what's up you know so anyway my fucking um and he kidnapped thing and shit he had nearly fucking closet fucking let the nigga I'm like man you can't do that you know I'm saying like just not you got a thing ago but how do you get him in the closet I don't know as a 14-year-old but we had guns so I feel like he's just put him in the closet yeah I'm just making a short the long story short is the motherfucker in the closet end up
Starting point is 02:42:46 getting shot I ain't saying who shot I'm a who shot whatever he ended up getting shot like a week later the brothers or the people of the brother ended up coming through and they shot our shit up shooting at us like doing shit like retaliation for the brother and it's like it was a crackhead this wasn't like and that's what fucked our spot up it wasn't that we got into it with some street niggas some real shit some it was us like my homie that we got some random 14-year-old from Oakland and I was like oh shit he was the shit he might be cool let's let him work in the spot he just took it too far and
Starting point is 02:43:24 kidnapped a crackhead but you don't know who you kidnapping like we just because a motherfucker crackhead don't mean he don't got people and this crackhead end up having people that really cared the fuck about him like really like money behind like he was just a crackhead but his family really had shit and they they threw firebombs in our spot they burnt the bitch up like I remember us it got to the point we started trying to go out of town because we had so much work from us hustling so like we got to get it up somewhere we started trying to go to Ohio Lyon, Ohio and I remember when the weeks went to Vegas
Starting point is 02:44:00 then that shit didn't work out and coming back and then everything was over like we saw the crack like our spot was burnt down the building was raided out like you couldn't even make we selling crack on the streets like it was over you know what I'm saying so just started trying to that's when we started selling weed so it just transferred to weed and selling weed was selling weed to our friends and from that that's what got me locked up and once I went to jail it was like once I was in jail because I was already started like trying to make music and like trying to be a rapper but like I said my friends hated me for making
Starting point is 02:44:36 trying to be a rapper so I was always like not really like confident in it you know what I'm saying but I just put my best foot forward I don't know it's like I had enough to do I don't know you're like rich again officer and gentlemen you have nowhere else to go like it's like what else am I gonna do like after that point like after the shit like me putting the pounds in the truck and all that shit I've been one time it was like pounds and no it's like we was in Arizona and I had to like and I was like putting the bows on the word when I put in the bows on the truck
Starting point is 02:45:11 and shit but we had like money in the house but then he was he's Mexican motherfuckers like the one we was getting the pounds from but like the niggas that was it was like okay it's like the plug it was like the big homie he was talking to my big homie and then it was like he had his workers then my big homie had his workers and I'm part of my big homie workers like so I was the nigga that was just with my big I'm his right hand man look that fucking plan I'm his right hand man but I'm just putting bows on the truck I ain't doing that extra I got a gun I got a gun on me shit like that but
Starting point is 02:45:43 but one day just 10,000 came up missing so it had to be one of these niggas like one of these Mexican niggas not speaking English like like weird shit like so niggas trying to find where the money at like you know what I'm saying like and it could have went bad like but I guess we just took that L just to be like whatever but I knew that I mean that was me after jail though I'm like but I'm still putting myself in these situations because this is my big homie that's supporting my life like putting my money in my pocket but he's giving me the gun and now I'm gonna fucking beat him for 10 racks and now I
Starting point is 02:46:15 got so I'm supposed to shoot the niggas you get what I'm saying like I got a plan like I'm already like I'm already playing there like fuck it I'm about to shoot this nigga and then just jump out the window and then I gotta figure it out I mean fucking Phoenix Arizona but what the fuck am I supposed to be putting myself through this shit after spending eight months in the county you know what I'm saying this is after county jail yeah this is after this is what I got on and told myself I'm being a rapper all the money I was making was going into my rap career at this point
Starting point is 02:46:45 you're a glutton for a party I did the same thing I did the same thing I didn't load you a glutton for a punishment I was I was treading on a I was treading on a thin mother fucking line you know I'm saying big difference but because that's the thing I want to actually like nobody comes out of jail and sticks with the body like how do you stay so strong and just stick to the script me yeah no no no no I let where's the pen you know me I'm a econ mage I like graphs so there's no misunderstanding
Starting point is 02:47:17 you understand me I like graphs so let's pretend I got out of I got out of all right I got out right here so it was four and three seven months I stayed at that fucking camp okay then they shit me to a halfway house now let's say I got to the halfway house Monday at 3 p.m. if you want me to lie to you I can tell you a bunch of lies and shit if I got to the halfway house Monday at 3 p.m. you got like a three-day period in the house we gotta do paperwork and learn to buy laws and clean your room and mop the hallways
Starting point is 02:48:22 then after like the three days they give you paperwork and they verify all the places that you know in the area and shit by Thursday they let me out in the afternoon by Thursday afternoon I already did cook what's new let's say I got to the halfway house Monday at 3 in the afternoon I played the game one day she has my whole thing with me I played the game Wednesday even I told you now like I told you like blow right now is so trash no no no it's I'm just saying that how long did it take me to break the law I guess it took me three days and that's what I started slinging it but it wasn't even three days because you yeah the whole time I couldn't think about that it was then I started
Starting point is 02:49:11 slinging it while living at the halfway house and loan sharking rent money plus my friend was sending me watches from New Jersey which fell off a bus there you know I was a one-man but I didn't do I did everything that was under the radar like the only worst thing I ever did there was I wanted to see you the college and across the street from the college there was like a student center and when they walked in then there was this is fun there was this thing of watches you know when I was in high school I stole the whole thing to go change one time it was the same difference they put a thing of watches that spins around I just picked this mother fuck up to your ladies looked at me like
Starting point is 02:49:59 what the fuck what a fucking thing you're dealing with joy banana all those places I stole every oh my god I did everything that was low radar so it's a low radar because you know how is that low radar it's a low radar I remember going to some of your department stores and seeing the shit of rolling what listen man these times just grab that bitch you walk out and you're getting caught with two I know it's probably because you get caught with two ounces of coke what's the right you getting caught with three stolen pens that assumably you stole because remember there was no cameras in these days there was no roll the videotape like there is now
Starting point is 02:50:44 go to the hallway see if he walked by if he was getting chased by davie brown you know you know you don't fuck it there was no that shit listen I'm gonna be in 1985 this is how crazy and danny'll tell you this is the mind of it I don't know I don't know I don't know I'm going 81 I moved the boulder I got 10 g 90 po it was lit 85 I got 10 I got 10 g's in the bank I got eight g's in my pocket maybe a thousand hundreds and the rest in 20s I walk by this radio shack every fucking day oh my god I go to the mall every day and every day I walk past this radio shack and there's not a it's not a dvd player what came before the dvd player it's vhs uh you know that just that that laziness oh laziness because
Starting point is 02:51:40 I remember my uncle had looked that's why I laugh when he said radio shack I had an uncle that was addicted to crack and he would break it to every radio shack oh my god it was so much he was on the news he like caused radio shack millions like it was the radio shack band he got caught up in this shit he did like eight years of breaking in radio shacks like he literally destroyed every radio shack in detrait or in michigan that area of detrait like he would like just he would saw the back the the the back of the store like I don't what you call like break I don't know like I don't know it's out it's gold mine it's just I go into that shit and people love we had laziness players with that shit before we even know what they do with the shit like a long clock we didn't
Starting point is 02:52:21 have good enough tv we had that shit on you know what I'm saying dog I kill radio shack single handedly across the country I would rob different shit from like give me the paperwork no wonder about our business now dog I would rob different shit in different cities and bring them to a different radio shack and get the money back before compute this before you went beep now when you go beep it tells you where the story came from what time it got there what market it was shipped them where it was made who the inspector was yeah and we put that fucking alarm clock together how's that one for you Lisa yeah now they don't know dick all they know is you're paying 1299 they give you a receipt back then and you went home and nobody do nothing as long as I had the
Starting point is 02:53:05 store name and the date and it's the same paperwork as their receipt that's all they give a french means fuck about how you feeling Lisa yeah I see you look yeah he's going to change he went to a couple changes I went to look I was see as I say I was came in respecting the star too I ain't I ain't I thought I might I thought I'm no you look good you did good plus the any yak yeah fucking cigars yeah you just FaceTiming me no we we did good tonight we did very good we ate like 2,000 milligrams of flesh and fluid look at them Jesus Christ where my uncle Joey that's right tell him I'm sending them my love yeah let me show them what up tell him send me love uncle Joey that's right what's up my love it's over
Starting point is 02:53:58 let me read the sad one get the hell out of here I can't believe you came on the podcast man man I love it man the main man here bro I'm a party church man you are the inspiration if it wasn't for you man I don't know like the last like year like me being on my last tour like I remember just waking up every morning then watching your fucking morning smokes and I'd be hitting my when you were sitting yo shit and you just that was inspiring me to do my show that night every night like fuck that go out there and sling dick fuck what you talking you know what I'm saying that was every night I'd be like fuck that they're out there and then every night I would like I would no matter how I felt like I could watch if I could watch you on periscope in the morning
Starting point is 02:54:40 and you say what you got I could go out and do my show every night no matter and that got me through my last fucking tour I swear that's what I love me I know there's something about you I like this shit Lee how you feeling I'm feeling good I'm good I'm good I feel like I might have to go out to dinner that was tea where you guys going anyway good no boo or something like that no look at you like a fucking doctor what are you doing you want to snack but you can't find it or you could find this junk food you rely on yourself control and you try to resist the temptation like right now my wife's got fucking Girl Scout cookies in the cabinet good luck please you eat the junk food start snacking healthy with nature box nature box makes snacks would actually taste
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Starting point is 02:59:20 your personal free that's it just like that all right i want to thank the zip recruiter one more time i don't want to thank my people over there at nature box with the best snacks out there but i want to thank my brother from a different mother mr. danny brown for dropping some love what else swear like on it oh that's right out of dot com don't forget to help us set off deliver to your house sorry about that db drop it on him no thanks no i'm just saying like man you know like you were like a big inspiration with me like man i just want like you know me like i feel like i'm old and being 36 like if i could be as cool as you are at fucking 54 years old i'm trying to remember i feel like i made it it's like i was like i was good like if i could be as
Starting point is 03:00:09 like i said i want to be i just want to be as cool as you when you're on your way brother when i'm 50 you know you got yourself out of the hard part yeah that's it now you're out of the woods they can be whatever you want to be i mean and not a hard part of just sustaining i said my brother tainan you know like you say just staying afloat like no no see jungle sometime make me want to just day one i know that's why i try to tell you the history of the afro cuban yeah day one i'm definitely gonna all i've ever told you is to stay black me i stay black every day that's all i ever try to do i wake up in the morning i try to stay black ask lisa at if i'm not the blackest cuban he knows i don't change any day of the week
Starting point is 03:00:53 he wants to go eat the vietnamese food i wish he gets hit by a fucking food truck you know me dog all that shit we don't need to eat the lizard meat i was not even lizard meat the only thing he is i really do eat lizard meat like he does eat lizard meat the only thing he is more than black is he's jewish listen this week he went and ate more junk oh my god and then he went back sunday again for more junk what are you like chicken desert i'm never trying to get he eats that shit every day he doesn't even know he thinks he's eating like a bucket like that's the why i know how fucked up like why do i like fried chicken deserts like but i'm from a neighborhood like my neighborhood had like a spot that that was like his sting
Starting point is 03:01:38 like it sold fried chicken my neighbor didn't have that spot like fried chicken deserts and fried chicken livers and that was like the thing like you can go or the other pool from it you can buy chicken like or like you know like whatever but but it's not fair with joey because he just he he sticks with the first asian sauce raised on that shit he sticks with the well do you mess with any one other than mexican and cuban do you do you have any other like his spanish food that you eat not really god damn it what else i'm trying to think for the peanut food is fucked up they like take like other words like like cheap as shit but they didn't everything is great with the filipino so the pigeon comes out from the party and it's not gonna paint a tab we all give hugs
Starting point is 03:02:24 to each other once i see the pigeon feet on the table you gotta go i love you motherfucker see wednesday night i love your brother stay black and beautiful thank you very much thank you man thank you man wootain clan ain't nothing to fuck with wootain clan ain't nothing to fuck with wootain clan ain't nothing to fuck with get the way they say i have a shot step beside the room that the room prepare for Fuck the boom, bam, ah, man, ah, slam, jam Yeah, that scream like Tarzan I be tossing and forcing, my style is awesome
Starting point is 03:03:06 I'm causing more family food than Victor Thorson And the survey said, you dead Baby flag, gullotine, chop, swap, the fucking head Mr. Who is that? Hey yo, the Who is back, make your niggas go boom, boom Like I'm super chat, me, fear, know what? Oh, no, here come the runes, ain't showgun, gullet of a eardrum
Starting point is 03:03:23 Put the needle to the groove, I get screwed and I'm forced to fuck it up, my style cabbie's like a pickup truck Cross the clear blue yanda, see, they're trying to see a slam truck, like all the back sacks from L.T. Now I try and test, the rebel lioness Less is the birth, I earth slam the best He's not baked a cake, didn't take the cake And he didn't chew with my crew while we had steak to steak
Starting point is 03:03:43 And if you want beef, then rain the buckets Boo take land, ain't nothing to fuck with Take from the motherfuckers, long as they bustin' Boo take land, ain't nothing to fuck with Fuck with, fuck with, fuck with, fuck with, fuck with Fuck with, fuck with, fuck with, fuck with What's up, boy? That was lit!
Starting point is 03:04:00 Stop his head off, man! Flavor, coming from the rhythm with the show for the racer Who let me reminisce through like nature? Who, a rubber, niggas, it's like glue? Whatever you say, bruh, talk me, skits can go, go Hi, good time. Hi, good time. Boo take land, ain't nothing to fuck with
Starting point is 03:04:43 Boo take land, ain't nothing to fuck with Boo take land, ain't nothing to fuck with Boo take land, ain't nothing to fuck with Fuck with, fuck with, fuck with, fuck with Yeah, that was it in Fortley, Queens Long Island, Manhattan Park The bucket lands on Shilin' Niggas from Virginia, Atlanta
Starting point is 03:05:00 Our boys in Ohio, comin' through with the crazy Y-O-Y-O Yo, niggas from the source I'm the entirely roof of the cabin Real stricklin', chasin' statin' Yeah, true, true I niggas glad I was born a damn boy We ain't nothin' to fuck with
Starting point is 03:05:16 The old Texas mom, the Chicago mom Niggas from Detroit Fuckin' California squadron Comin' through, don't stand the whole fuckin' west Niggas from D.C., down to Maryland All the way over there, Morgan State Boo take land, ain't nothing to fuck with All over the whole fuckin' globe
Starting point is 03:05:33 Comin' through, great Peace to the fuckin' Zulu nation Peace to all the gals in the earth Bro, this barn, Boo take land Choppin' heads, great It ain't safe no more Peace Highest night
Starting point is 03:05:57 Highest night Highest night Highest night Highest night Highest night Highest night

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