Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #503 - Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt
Episode Date: August 1, 2017Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio talking about Joey's amazing show at The Borgata and why it was such a special show.  We also discuss the power of a good walk and how depression affects Lee. ...This podcast is brought to you by: Lyft - Sign up to drive at Lyft.com/joey and find out how you qualify to get a $500 new driver bonus.   Hellotushy.com - Go to Hellotushy.com/church for 10% off of your order of portable devices that spray your butt with water.  Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.   Recorded live on 07/31/2017. Â
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Lee Siah with all the good here we go
Oh
Fucking tremendous jam look up when that year this song came out
Absolutely, this song everybody thought this came out in Pulp Fiction in 94 95
This song came out when I was in fucking grammar school
And we were fucking going down to Kennedy School dancing to this shit
Doing the bump. I don't even know if you're released 1973
Yeah, this is this came out when I was in fucking grammar school
It just get got revitalized again by Pulp Fiction
But who gives a fuck just a little trivia for you cut suckers on a Monday morning
That'll help someone sometimes. Yeah, we got a lot of messages from people who use pie every day
I don't know if you saw that just one from the last podcast remember 3.14. Yeah, we got like pipe fitter
We got like a lot about a lot of people who like I use it every day. What are you talking about?
Yeah, I never fucking use it again welcome. Hope you had a great weekend. I know Lee was in
Viva Las Vegas with his wife walking around
Holding hands wet and the debt. Oh, I had shorts. No, it was terrible. They're like I was thinking about it
And I asked some lift drivers actually
Those there's people selling those bottles of water on the strip for like I thought it was a dollar
I didn't look at the sign some guy said he's seen it for $5 a bottle. Could you imagine how much money they're making?
It's a hundred fucking 92 out in the street. Oh, yeah, I was in Atlantic City
At the Borgata and it was sensational from A to Z if you came to this show
I want to thank you to all my heart and it was like a fucking homecoming see because I'm from North Bergen, New Jersey
But the people who don't want to be in the political game they move
They moved to Central, New Jersey, but a bulk of them moved to the shore
So when I do shows at Gotham, it's a fucking hike for them. They can drink and when I do shows at
In Central, New Jersey at New Brunswick
Some of them come but now that I went down there
90% of them came because they all go down there on the weekends or they live down there
I saw people I hadn't seen in 25 30 years and
How how was like because I know you've said in the past that sometimes those shows get a little weird when you have like
You don't like them as much, but it seemed like this one really well
This one went really well, you know the mentality in New Jersey is the Borgata is the place to be
Right. Yeah, it's like the best casino down there. It's it's been around this 2003. It's an MGM property. I played it with Joe
for one of the UFC's
with Pat Milichich was there and
The guy that Frank Mia broke his arm was there and Matthews who's in our always in our thoughts and our prayers
Was there that's the last time I did that one up there first and eight ass
And I was like, I'll never be at the Borgata again. It doesn't really matter. Well, is Atlantic City on like down the shores
That is that in the same place or just close? It's one of the short destinations
Okay, so it's one of the many short destinations and you went down there. It's how many how many years?
I've only been down there three times in my whole life. No way. Yeah. Okay. I
Atlantic City opened when I was a child when I was first moved to Jersey
And then the first time I went to Atlantic City was with Rogan
For the Borgata and then I went again with Jimmy Burkle. God rest his soul
One time to eat crab legs and I got a call from a booker to do a show up in Connecticut
So we had to stop eating crab legs and get in the car and thank God Jimmy was cold
He drove me all the way to Connecticut for this gig and then this week was the third time I've ever been in that
Wow, I would have said we've been down there a lot. No when I was in I only stayed till 83 85 and
The crew I hang out with wasn't really they went to Atlantic City guys
There was a lot of guys that were Atlantic City guys
They liked it down there. I just at that time. I didn't have money again, right? Yeah, my money was for one thing and one thing only
so I'm happy but
It was funny because my anxiety was really high the day of I was starting to lose it throughout the day at certain points, you know
It wasn't the bombing it was that I
Had heard that certain people coming I was kind of in shock because
Those people never really spoke to me in high school and
Guess what those people never really showed up the people that really showed up and hung out
Who all the people I had grown up with and known all those years the runnies the Askelis is the minarees
You know Gary Richmond who was a cop for a long time. He retired as a cop
Jerry Aponte just a bunch of neat guys Ralph Fusso. Oh really Ralph Fusso was there
And this is kind of like a negative way to think but do you think maybe some of the people who came who you were like
Kind of surprised or maybe hoping you do bad and maybe they left out as soon as you like because this all good
You were doing because some people think like that. I think I gotta tell you man. Listen
I'm you know, I've been writing this book and the one chapter
That turned into something else was the first chapter because as I was writing it
It's kind of like I let myself go, you know, and that's what I wanted
I didn't want to write anything for years. I've been trying to write this thing
But I wanted the people at home that were reading it to not read the words
But to kind of feel while I was going through because without that feeling
This book isn't gonna work, you know, this book isn't is not gonna work at all. How do
It sounds silly, but how do you convey it without words? Like it seems like words would be the one thing to do it
Well words would do it
Words would do it, but I got to paint the picture for them and the picture was that
There was a time when
I think I think and I'm not
You guys know me at home. I'm not the seven person to put the blame off on something else
But there was a time I think that my actions throughout the last two years of being in north bergen
Were because when I left I never really wanted to come back
Like it was like
Deep down inside. It was so much pain when I walked those streets those same street
It's like going to a fucking gym and getting beat up at this gym. Every time you're gonna see that gym emotionally
It's gonna put you somewhere. Do you know what I'm saying? Absolutely? Yeah. Yeah. It's like just a automatic reaction
It's like a trigger and even now when I go back there. I'm there and I'm going through the motions
Okay, but I feel a very low end discomfort
At times I think that this comfort is going to grow. I keep myself busy
I I only go back there for three days. I cover the spread. I'm always busy
But you know, there's a point on my visit to new jersey. I go to my mom northern new jersey
Then I go to my mom's grave and I walk those streets just to
Take me back there for a minute to make me feel
Like I felt you know like just to get that feeling again that that
Feeling of wanting because at that time. Yes, I had desperation
and I had a lot of insecurities
But I wanted
I wanted a family. I wanted success. I wanted to have a job. I wanted to have a car
I wanted to have nice clothes. I wanted to have what my p is at and I didn't have those things. Absolutely. So
Uh
That last year I was just doing things because I knew
Once I left this time I was not going to come back
Do you think you knew you were leaving or you were just oh, I always knew I always knew
I always knew a month after I got there. I knew I couldn't live this way
But I was already caught up. I was caught up with my friends. I was caught up in a relationship
So this is after you came back from colorado firm. Okay, got it
And was it different because the first time you left north bergen was a little
There was an issue wasn't there with your uncle or with a guy on a motorcycle
No, that was the second time that was second. I had no thought the first time there was an issue also
Okay, but the issue was also that now that I look at it
I was too young inside to understand what was going on inside of me. Right. Absolutely
So I was very young
The drugs had covered
The emotions under the rug like you sweep them under the rug
So at that time I was kind of numb to what was going on
But I just knew I didn't want to be there like when I went to sarasota when I robbed that jewelry store
When I went to sarasota for those five weeks, I've always told you
That once you realize something
You're done
You know once I realize I could
Do 20 push-ups
I'm gonna go for 40 push-ups. It's just natural
Unless you got no heartbeat unless you say, okay, I'm done with 20
And I'll do 20 every day
Sometimes you go, you know what next week I'm gonna do 25
It's really weird when you surprise yourself
You don't know your abilities. Mm-hmm. When you have no idea about your abilities and your abilities shine. Jesus christ
It's like a light bulb goes off and yet, you know
So when I landed that I thought I wanted it
When I wasn't an aspen the first time and I was doing great. I was working for an electrician company
I had my little side thievery
I was working out. I was taking classes side for some reason. I thought I missed
Home like in the back of my head. I thought I missed home
I just it just for like I was missing something
I feel that way sometimes but and I didn't have the the friendships that you had
But it just you spend those like the first 20 something years of your life somewhere
It just see it just feels
Safe, I guess. Well, it just was like, uh, it was a comfort zone. Yeah, absolutely. You know, but once I went to sarasota
And I read the st. Pete times and I read
The newspapers that were there and I would look at the classifieds
I'm like boy, I could do that
Like in 1982
I'm looking at this paper going I could do this for 10 15 now
In advance and get my life together and it's union. I could stay here with gary
You know, I was in sarasota, florida and at that time I got to be honest. It was like a relief
It was like a strain had gotten taken off my shoulders. I didn't really have to go to a bar every night anymore
Even though you were on the run from the police, you felt
Well, I believe listen
How do you how do you know if a man's guilty?
I don't know after you sentence him and it goes back to the sentence to the to the cell right he goes to sleep
That's how you know if a man is guilty he sleeps
But
But you weren't in it. You were hiding like weren't you weren't you I would imagine you when I went to call
Anticipating when I went to colorado the first time I wasn't hiding
No sarasota sarasota. I was hiding but the cops were looking for me, but not really like they're not gonna go to florida
No, they didn't have any info. I hid from everybody. There was maybe three people at nor was in florida
Jesus. All right, three maybe four people tops
I didn't tell nobody I would call them in those days. There was no caller ID. I could tell you what the fuck you want
There was no star 69 where who is he calling from? You know, let's trace the call. Let's trace the call
There was no Tony Soprano shit
So I could tell you I was whatever the fuck I wanted to tell you
You know, so but that those five or six weeks made me realize wow
Maybe I can live without north bergen. Maybe I can live without my friends and family. This is a stretch
But I think I could do it. But no, I don't want to do it right now
Was the first week hard or like did it take a couple weeks to realize that you survived without it?
Or did you notice it immediately?
I noticed after the first week probably
But it's just like everything else that that lesson was an introduction to my life
When you really realize you don't need something, you know, when I went to prison
My fear wasn't about getting raped
My fear wasn't about getting beat up. I had none of those fears. You know, my fear was
Honestly, I have no idea that I was gonna lose my mind without the marijuana
Not the cocaine. No at the time of my arrest
In october of 87. I was a bona fide stoner
I was a bona fide stoner stoner was what I did all day
At night I did the blow
But I would love my marijuana. I fell in love with marijuana like 81
The relationship grew in 83 in colorado
When I realized the strength of marijuana out there
And then when I went back to new york, they had tie weed and they had scents
So I was infatuated with good weed at that age
I always went into the city and tried to hunt down the best weed
And somebody told me that the weed this week was on 181st and the Bronx up in Jerome Avenue. That's why I was
You know, I had certain people that I knew that they were my caliber smokers
Okay, and they told me there was another guy that was getting chocolate tie weed in west new york
And it was expensive as fuck, but I was buying that then
I was buying that then I liked good weed then
So that was my daytime thing in 87
But it also helped me go to sleep at night. Oh, yeah 100%
That's all it does. At that time weed was still making me go to sleep even if I did blow
If I did blow when I smoked two good joints or something
I went down
So at that time the weed was still very strong to me
Is weed one of the harder ones to do in prison because you could like it smell at smoking like is that is that the issue?
It's a nightmare to smoke weed in prison. Ah
Because you have to get toilet paper
And you have to put deodorant stick on it. Okay, you have to put a bunch of that and then you have to light that on fire
And then you have to let's roll up the joint
You know and smoke it remember and in prison you get weed
It's three joints of mediocre weeds for 50 bucks
So for me to give it to you your wife or mom has to put money on my books
And once I received that 50 I give you a match book
It's called a match book and that's exactly what it is
You know the book of matches that slide, right? Oh, okay long ones. They fill that up
They fill a little the tiniest one they could get with weed
I thought you were gonna say like one of those little foldable ones and you get three joints pen joints
You got to fucking go somewhere and smoke it. They're gonna smell it. They're gonna lock everything down
Yeah, that's a disaster. So it's too much drama. It's too much. It's not worth the aggravation
When I found out I could get weed by the time I found out it was too late already
I was already getting over what I thought would be the issue a really really bad situation
Right, like I smoked weed 20 minutes before court
Because I knew you know just in case
Jesus and you didn't think they'd look at your eyeballs or anything? No, no, I put vizena in my eyeballs
But when I got sentenced that was my biggest fear
That's always your biggest fear. There's a movie. I think there's a movie that we discussed before
1981 thief and there's a scene where he talks to tuesday well than a diner when he first meets her
And he asks her for a date. He takes her out and he pretty breaks down who he is as a character
and
He tells her a story about him going to prison
That he went to prison and he was doing his work really hard
But there was a guard that had it out for him
Okay, and one day the guard tried to do something to him and he went off on the garden beat the fuck out of him
And he fucked up the guard so bad that the guards could never move his right arm again or something
and he goes
The jailers beat the fuck out of me in retaliation
for what I did to the guards
And he goes and I knew
Once I walked out into that fucking field that I was a dead man
And she goes so what happened he goes six months later. I got rehabbed and I went on the yard
And she goes what happened he goes nothing
And that's the way we think we always think something's gonna happen
Yeah, whenever we're gonna quit something like I went you know
Uh, I went to prison and they took that weed away from me for the first time. I was 25 years old 26 years old
Whatever I was at the time that I went to prison
And I thought it was gonna I thought first of all I was gonna get really bad insomnia
So the first thing I did was make up a story
About they told me what the inmates told me what to say to get like a pseudo sleeping pill got it. Okay
So I took that sleeping pill every day
But after a while it stops working. Yeah three or four days it starts for it stops working. So
But by that time I was already kind of over it
Okay, I was like it ain't that bad
Like my throat felt weird my lungs felt weird like good like better like no no they just felt like they were empty
They hadn't smoked you know I would at that time I had been smoking weed steady
It's 88th. I had been smoking weed steady for seven years
Every day four times a fucking day. Have you heard and I haven't so it probably hasn't come out
But now that weed's becoming recreational are they gonna start letting in prisons? Do you think or probably not?
Oh fucking lately. I don't even know what they're gonna do with the regular law. What do I give a fuck about prisons?
I think I'll give you a weed in prison. I don't know. I think it'd be a good fucking uh
Because you have no moral stand on so I couldn't even get an attorney to go in there
Because there's really no federal statutes every state is doing on their own right. Yeah, so you know, there's nothing you could do
Okay, unless you sued the state
But then the state would bail out as a federal thing. So you'd never win. Yeah, doesn't matter
I was thinking the state would jack up the prices. But no, I had uh
Seen a lot of those people brought back some great memories
I got to talk to a good friend of mine about a closer friend of mine. How he was doing
I saw assemblyman veneri. He looked great. I saw askelis. He looked great. He's an assemblyman now
Yeah, he's always been an assemblyman. He's been an assemblyman for two years. Oh, I thought I started at lower
No, he's in charge of Hudson county park. He's the mayor's right-hand man
And the word on the street is when the mayor resigns, he's gonna be the next mayor and I hope so
I wish him luck. He's been at it since he was a child
So, uh, is he gonna make you be the driver? I hope so. I hope so but all those little things
Really, uh, I learned a lot that night. I learned that was still here
I learned that, you know, sometimes you guys think I turn my life around
A lot of my buddies turned their lives around too including the assemblyman
There was a guy there Mike runny who took me in when I was a kid Mike
When I was 30, Mike was going through a fucking gambling thing. Mike went through hundreds of thousands of dollars in gambling
even though he was beating bookies and telling them to suck his dick and
Until his wife put her foot down and said I'm buying a house in fucking Delaware
When where fun goes to die, you know, because that's the only place they'd be safe
And he he showed up to the show when he looks great and
His daughter showed up. I gave her some stars of death
The uh, his three brothers who are my brothers showed up Steve
They all showed up. Timmy Holloway showed up with his two kids. Did any of the uh,
Timmy's sister's body guard come up show up?
No, no, no, they were they were gonna have a barbecue
But it rained in new jersey
Uh, they weren't supposed to have really bad weather
So the barbecue got cancelled since all the boys came to the show
Joan stayed with the mom. So I didn't get to see a lot of people. I saw you know, and there was a lot of people
I didn't see but the show was spectacular
I gotta be honest with you guys. I was more nervous before I went on stage when they shot my special
I thought I was gonna have a nervous breakdown at one point when I got to the green room
I'm like, this isn't fucking happening. This is just a dream
What what what was it about that's more than the special because I is it just being in front of those people again being in front of those people again
I don't like talking like this in front of those fucking people
But I told stories about north bergen in front of them some guy hit me up right away on twitter
I sat next to bobby bender
He said all your stories are real all this shit the jesus christ. Thank god for one guy
That's at least on you know, can you recognize these people in like 30 years?
If you like seeing them 20 30 years later, even though they've aged could used to be like, oh, that's there was one guy
I was looking at and I couldn't figure it out who the fuck he was
I could not figure it out. I'm like they're friends
But like he kept looking at me smiling and finally I figured out who he was and I went up to him
And I was friends with him and his brother and I was dear friends with his cousin
I was dear friends with this family, but I was dear friends with his cousin
So I tapped him on the shoulder at one point and I asked him
to come outside for a second I asked him about his cousin and he told me about him and
I always felt guilty about the cousin, but he told me not to feel guilty about him
That uh, he had picked his own roads and life and uh the same way I chose mine. He goes you went to prison
He goes everybody has their problems. Everybody has their demons, you know
So it was pretty interesting all around
Um
Was it like did you build it up in your head beforehand? Was it as scary as you thought or you always do?
I always do I build up everything in my fucking head like that. Whether I gotta get on the 405
If I gotta get on the
101 at four o'clock I paint this horrible picture
Of this traffic and then I'm doing 90 down the fucking 101. I'm like, what the fuck am I talking about? What am I stupid?
Same thing when I go to the 405 fast Thursday had to go to acupuncture
On the way back. I even told my wife as I was pulling up. She was she was getting out of her car
Now, you know what? It's kind of nice to leave the valley from time to time and go to
Down there and come back and get the drive around a little bit and breathe some ocean air
Why live up, you know, why live close to the ocean if you can never see it ever
Yeah, it's nice
Like the traffic gets annoying but left him a million times. I love there's something driving
Long enough distances where you get to zone out a little bit
That's where that's where I have my like my best thinking. I like that's why I like driving, you know
tonight before I came I watched something again
That I uh wanted to watch before I spoke about it
because
I knew this I knew this because I lived this
I knew this because I went through this and I just wanted to see if he had gone through it
And that was john jones against daniel cornmere
It was very interesting because lee was banging his head off the wall the whole time
And I kept telling me last week if you guys listen to the podcast, that's the cool which we never talk about
The ufc on here, you know, that's joe's bag and why would I tell him just a fat fuck but
I know different personalities and I know savagery and I know violence
And I know a lot of those aspects of life a lot of people don't know a lot of people don't see
And I knew one thing going into this fight
That jones had his way with this
He's going to try to knock his head off and really really hurt cornmere
His mother just died
He's just had a horrible two years
Cornmere was relentless adam
You know, yeah, what the talk me and really talked adam
And I had a funny feeling, you know, like I've said before a lot of people are sitting at home right now going on your car going
Joey, I could you say something like this? There's people who are fighters and there's people who are killers
John jones lays and john is a killer. You're like, joey. What makes you say these things? Listen, and I'm a big fan of his
I never stopped being a big fan of his because I'm I've known him. I know him
and I've had great conversations with him
And when I found out about the cocaine use and all that shit
I was a little blown away, but again, it's none of my fucking business
Then, you know, then he said that he snorted all night and beat up daniel cornmere
All those things are hilarious to me because I've been there
Not that I went and beat up daniel cornmere
Like when I was working for the sports betting service, I would get coked up on a friday night
And going there on a saturday and break my own records
Because you're unconscious
You're not really thinking that cocaine takes your logical way
So what I wouldn't say to you on the phone on a tuesday, right? No, I'm just saying on a fucking sunday
And there's no confidence. There's not that there's no confidence
There's excuse me reluctant. There's more confidence
And there's less I give a fuck
So I'm gonna go in I remember going into that sports betting service on a saturday with two tissues in my nose
from my nose leaking
And I had stopped snorting at four, but I would have to be in there on a seven on a saturday and sunday
And I had it in my mind ladies and gentlemen that the nights that I snorted before I went in there I would sell more
That's how crazy drugs are like it talked me into that. That's it
I'm not gonna get high on wednesday. I would get high on tuesday. Okay, and then friday tuesday because I always had wednesday off
Then they have to be anywhere till fucking two o'clock
on wednesdays
So even if I snorted till five I could sleep till 11 take a shower have lunch and make it to my two o'clock
And then sat fridays. I would always snort because
I knew saturdays were a big day in football and I didn't want to be conscious
So I would go in there awake, but I hadn't slept the night before
Do you know what I'm saying?
I mean, I do I don't think I'm not saying john did this right. I'm not saying any of these things
I mean, he's did say he did the coke
The night before he beat him up or he partied the night before he beat him up, which is fucking crazy
Didn't he test positive one time before a fight? I believe so. Yeah, I mean he this is crazy
This is fucking crazy to me, but like they said
all that crazy
Is what makes him who he is and that's what most people never understand. I go back to the first fucking 10
fucking episodes of the church
Know the animal you're dealing with
Know the animal you're dealing with
You know when you see people like I know there's a lot of people who faked the funk
But there's a lot of people who really lived this lifestyle
What what lifestyle the lifestyle of 24 seven? I don't give a fuck
I'm gonna train like an animal, but I'm gonna snort and get my dick sucked like an animal too
I'm the world champion. Why can't I?
But what was that his attitude? It seemed like you listen. He hit a car right? Yeah, right? He he he
Tested positive twice
for two different substances
You know, what is the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result? Yeah, okay
You know, uh, but all this
mixes in well with the art
Which is hard
To say you don't think he would like have been even more amazing without it
Uh
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
Maybe his DNA needed a little salt and pepper to wake it up
To bring it back from the old truck. That's a scary thing to say though. Listen
When I did comedy, okay, let me tell you something
When I did comedy and I was doing cocaine
Let's get this out of the open
Hey, I never did it before I went on stage
But I'd do it the night before
all right
And if I had it in my pocket
Like if I would get to the show and you'd say we got two shows tonight
And as soon as I seen the cookie blink at me that means I knew he had it
And somewhere in the night I'd take $50 bill and bring it back there to him 100 and give it to him
And he'd give me the coke and I'd do the last show and I'd get the fuck out of it
but
Take somebody like Rogan for example. Rogan's a great comedy guy. He's got a great comedy guy
I had horrible material in those days
My stage presence was really good, but I also had something else coming for me
That I was spontaneous and crazy on stage
Today I'm crazy and I'm spontaneous
But guess what? I have a little bit of control, believe it or not
Right and you've seen me with you for five years. You've seen me that yeah, I know
Working out shows when I got to bring new material up there. I got to figure out how to sell it
So I got to get crazy and spontaneous when I listened to the tape later on
I either went overboard remember I'd rather go overboard then give you less right when I give you less
You're gonna go he gave me more
He could have given me more when I go to an audition
My principal's always to go give you a little more
Because you could always tame me
But you never know how to teach me how to give you more
A lot of people don't know how to give you more when you ask them for more
So I give them more off the top so they always look me in the face and go whoa
Push it back just a little bit Joey
Was the issue because it seems like you've had that like just your personality
Was the issue that maybe was just unreliable when you didn't know how to like tame it
Like it like it could work or can fail. It was I always told you that until 2008 or 2009
I was a very
I don't know how to say this word without sounding bad sounding bad
I was a very funny comic, but I was very inconsistent
Inconsistent it's inconsistent was my middle name and look I'm telling you people the honest I got true
Today some kid came up to me. I had to go to sprint and get a computer
A iPad okay, and with my wife and some kids sitting next to me goes. I just watched
Uh El payaso that was 2007 2006 2006
I was still snorting like a fucking savage. In fact that night. Look at me. Look at my appearance
Look what I'm wearing. I didn't really care about myself. I had no concern
They told me what they were gonna pay me. I told them to make sure it was cash
It was the night after Thanksgiving
We shot in the theater in San Bernardino and let me tell you something that shouldn't even end
And I was in my car going fucking north. They kept calling me. Where's your hotel room key?
I left it there was in my pocket. I didn't give a fuck
I had $2,000 and I was headed to the drug dealer's house by 11 o'clock. I was gonna make the quota. You understand me?
Plus I was gonna give them a little bit of what I owed them
So I was very excited, but if you look at that
I had no self-control
It's really weird and I felt it
I felt it. It's not till I slowed down and started writing
It took me about a year to get my cocaine marbles
Then it took me another two years and then for a year I went to Irvine improv once a week
And I watched the headliner and I watched to Greg Harald those blesses soul and uh
And the the black guy that died that's hysterical. Oh, uh patrice patrice. I watched him and I watched bur
And I watched all these guys for a year and I got to really learn a lot of how to headline
And it prepared me for what's going on today. I would have never been prepared if I wouldn't have seen Greg Harald doing those guys. So
It just goes to show you that I'm
It's just I know how cocaine works
When they when I watched the fight the other day those last five punches
to his head
those last five punches
Were everything bad that's happened to john jones in the last three or four years. I'm not saying that
He deserved or didn't deserve it or he was wrong. All right. I'm never saying that
What I'm telling you is that those frustration five shots that that john mccarty let him lay on him
Because he thought daniel camea wasn't as bad a shape as he was in because that was just a nobody really knew
Cormier was that fucked up
After the kick to the head. I didn't know I thought that he tripped him and his momentum made him fall down
His head was spinning
And when he landed and he landed those punches on them
Cormier ain't gonna be the way he is for a long time after this. You don't think so no no no those punches were hard brother
Those punches were fucking hard at the end
Those punches were very hard. Those were killer fucking shots to the head
You know, I don't know if you ever saw the fucking john jones machita fight
I don't think he choked machita out and just let him drop on the fence
And he turned around that showed me who john jones was the problem with john jones was that he came out
And he was young and he didn't really know what to say and he came out talking about jesus
And all of a sudden he was acting like a diabolo and people don't know how to handle that was the part that frustrated me
I think and they listened to his off tapes and what he would say
When they thought he wasn't listening right, you know, and they realized that this guy was really this is the real deal guys
And it's so sad when people don't know what it scares me
You know
I've always I'm not
Proud of this
But I want you to think if you've ever been around somebody who's murdered somebody
If you're around one of those people
Like I I know a guy one time that I was friends without a car lot
And uh
People would go to me. You know that guy is like, oh, who is it?
And they said he stabbed the guy to death up in boulder up in a saloon up there
There's a like a german restaurant in boulder
They serve sour rotten and all this shit to have a happy hour. This guy stabbed the guy to death right after that. Listen
I knew before I before
Somebody told me about this guy
I knew this guy was the type of guy that could break your elbow your eyes just by looking at him
Just by looking at his eyes when you spoke to him
He he was a little older now. He had he had come out of prison. He had gotten married
He had a few kids
He was minding his business. He was a car lot lot attendant
But this place usually had three lot attendants. He told the guy he just wanted to work by himself
And give him the salary
So he was probably making 700 a week as a car lot attendant
He lived modestly and he sold little drugs on the side
But I'm not with this guy for about two or three years
And what I learned from observing him like when I would sit there and snore coke with him and shit like that
I would think about that
This guy took somebody's life
I don't know if you understand they call it murder. Okay, they call it murder and that's such a shallow word
Because
This guy took somebody's life. What does that mean to you?
They took somebody's life. No, at least shattered six or seven lives
That there's a mother that's hurting. There's a wife that's hurting. There's a kid that's hurting somewhere
There's a grandparent who's hurting. There's a boss that's hurting
There's a barber somewhere that was you know what I'm saying like this
You have seven or eight people in your life where you have contact with that you affect
Do you think they that's probably something they don't think about? They don't think they're just mad or whatever. Don't think about that
They're mad something in their mind twitches and it's who they are Lee
It's who the fuck they are
You can't run away from who the fuck you are or what the fuck you are
Once you find out you either solve the fucking problem
Or you end up in fucking jail
You know, I told you I had a friend of my three years ago and told me he was a fucking sexual demon
Like we were talking and he said he wanted to talk to me about some
I think just turned into a conversation that it was something I had heard through the grapevine
But now he was confessing to me
He was a married guy. He had fallen in love with this other woman
He asked her to leave her husband. She wouldn't do it. He was heartbroken
You know, but everywhere he goes there's a woman involved
People have told me he's a sex addict
You know when we were sitting there that day he started saying some shit that
Made my head want to fucking blow up, but this was the trigger to it
It was something his mother had done when she was divorced
So he was angry and this is what sparked him
And I asked him I said, you know, I'm not a professional but you should maybe go speak with somebody who was a professional
But I always thought about a situation. We all have some
Cross the bed. We all have skeletons. We all have something that makes us
Feel like we're not like everybody else
You know
If there's a real problem you go talk to somebody
If you think you could tame it and play like a box for defense like what you know, I'm saying like, oh, if you're fucking little kids
You should go shoot yourself. I can't help you. You know what I'm saying that type of shit. I can't help you
But all right
You're a sexual demon if you like hookers if you like cocaine, you know, I'm like my thing was fucking drugs
And it wasn't even the drugs. It was my heart beating to getting the drugs. It was that action
It was that last thing I had that I held on to the past
I loved it. I loved my heart beating that way. I I loved having complications
I loved lee calling my house asking me for the three hundred dollars. I held them and I didn't have the money
I loved all that stuff
Did you know did you consciously knew you loved it or were you sabotaging?
It was I was just constantly on a sabotage constantly
Constantly there's people who send me emails all the time and
And they try to get out of their way and they can't and they feel terrible about it. But let me tell you something
It took me years to get out of my it took me maybe till 15 years ago
To get out of my own fucking way because there's always something
That you need to add that that there's that immaturity
That there's something that you need to do because you're who you are and trust me
If anybody had it more than me, I fucking applaud you. I had it
When I did the longest shard, I had it. I had a fucking great time
Whatever and one day they started fucking me
And I started fucking with them
And they didn't like it
And they took me off the poster and they did a thousand things to me. They put me last in the credits
All producers know how to fuck with you. Right, you know, if you watch that movie, uh
The movie Madonna and Rosie O'Donnell
A league of their own when they're the softball team the girls baseball team
Tio Leone's in them somebody's in that movie. I forget what the girl's name is
She hadn't argued with the director or something. Watch that movie. She doesn't even have a fucking line in that movie
They cut her up completely. They show it's like she's a fucking extra
Ali same thing
Paul Rodriguez was an Ali. He had like 15 speaking lines
He did some radio interview and he said that the fucking director was prejudiced or something
Boom, he got to the premiere. He was a fucking extra. Jesus. They don't fuck around dog
I didn't complain anything like that. I got into him over a gambling beef
We got over a gambling argument. I called him a kiss of death. He didn't fucking like it
And that's how it escalated. It was it was that and then they heard about the drug use and you know
Blah blah blah blah blah, but the drug use is me
I had nothing to do with them. The drug use is all me, right?
My heart's beating kind of I I wrote this down. I wasn't gonna bring it up. But we're kind of talking about it
the the two
musicians who
Killed them suffered like they it's it's had me thinking and
I've never gone to talk to anybody. I've had people
Ask me to but it's I don't know. I just I'm not good. I'm not comfortable
opening up to people like that
but I'm pretty like
It's not diagnosed or anything, but I'm pretty sure I've like dealt with pretty severe depression
what I would call depression for
Pretty much my whole life and it's just and it's still on so it's it's
It's never over
Like that's why that like you talking about finding something to fix like that's
I've been thinking about recently looking for someone to talk to but I
It freaks me out a little bit being that open with someone. I don't really know no
The depression what do you feel at times even after you've met paula?
And after you that's the fucked up part like
I feel like I'm like my my mom
My parents told stories that I would always look behind me when I was something like when I was on like a amusement park ride
I'd always look at someone else's
At what everyone else was doing or I'd always look ahead in my own life. I would never be happy in the present
And I think a lot of this stuff I've done out here going maybe from job to job editing
I'm always look I really want to be happy like I look at all these people and I'm a happy guy
But I'm also I don't tell people a lot of shit like I just
paula gets mad at me or something. I'm just never felt comfortable and then I never really felt
safe telling people I don't know like my my parents were okay like they were fine, but then
You don't want to feel like you're sad all so you just be you're happy
But it's uh like I felt I was thinking about it like my brain just feels tired when I'm really depressed
Like it's just like it's I'm not sad. It's not like I'm sitting home crying
But it's just like they just the thoughts don't stop. It's it's crazy
It's it's it's non sometimes it's all day every day
Does the male want to slow it down or does it feel it?
It's different sometimes it sometimes it's great
Sometimes it's really great. Sometimes I giggle and I have fun
The issue sometimes is if like I uh if I'm not doing something sometimes it'll creep in
Like if I if I get really stoned and I'm just kind of zoning out
Then it'll creep in and sometimes it can go down a bad path
But it's not terrible like it's not it's not to the point where I would stick like I like weed more than
It affects my depression. I think
Now if you have depression
You've fucking completely fooled me. Not that I'm a phd and dick
I don't know about nothing, but you've completely fooled me
In the beginning
When we first started hanging out
um
I sent something
But I sensed more shyness
You weren't comfortable yet in your own skin around me until I started smoking with you and punching you and calling
You're fucking jew and let's do this and you felt at home for a while. No, I've in new york
You were tremendous. You were fucking phenomenal in new york
Even when we got lost. I got admitted to you
But I uh once you had paula once you first met paula
You fell in love and you gained a lot. You both gained a lot of weight together
Yeah, but whenever I saw you were very happy. You weren't alone anymore
I mean, it doesn't take a fucking genius. I'm not the old man from match.com
But when I see you guys you two together
You guys were meant for one another like I could see it. It doesn't take a genius
I'm happier now that I've been a couple months ago. You came to me with some discrepancies
And I told you I said you don't have a reason to do that
Just set your boundaries as a man and there's nothing wrong with ever sending setting your boundaries as a man
Right and in fact, they'll doubt you at some part of your relationship
If you don't because they'll go every woman that works says that that man will not go to a movie with me and and
But you had me fooled if it makes you feel better
I have my bounce
And that's the thing like when you we talk and I've told you some some stuff that's happened in my life, but I also don't
I've always feel like I'm a burden on people
Like I I I I never want to tell someone like that
I I feel like and I'd be interested to know if other people who feel like they go through this
I feel like I'm really good at small talk
Because everyone whenever he says how are you doing good? Like I feel like I feel like that sort of I'm like I'm a great cashier
Like all that like I was a great server like small talk
I feel like you can kind of fake your way through it a little bit. It's the long shit that bothers you
Yeah, it makes me on that. It's yeah, it makes me not I don't mind long conversations
But it's uh, it's hard for me to be completely open with people
You know, not only I
But I've had other people approach me and said hey, I thought he was like
This fucking guy when he met you we were worried about him
Look at me smoking dope. He's mingling. He's talking to people the comics like you people like you whenever I talk to joey
Yes, I was lead doing any fucking pass out yet
Which you know any bravo asked me about, you know people asked me about you. So you're very likable
I think that you're shy and you think that people
May not want to be around you. That's a lie. That's all in your head. I think we all suffer from that
I just had a spoke I spoke to dean delray and he asked me if I knew a certain comic and I go
I don't think the guy likes me because no no no
The guy was telling me that he caught 10 minutes. He was at the store and he almost puked
But he goes he's really fucking introverted. He don't like saying nothing to nobody. I go, you know what next time I see him
I just give him a hug and throw him the fuck off
Because that's what you have to do with people like that. I thought you were very uh
Hey, listen, if the tables were turned
At that position when we met each other, I would have acted just like you
I would have been very quiet
I would have been scared to maybe interject
Once people started showing up and you started meeting red band and arie
Like I could see in your face. You went home like your head was going to explode. You had listened to all these people
Yeah, that's crazy. And then when you realized where that we were all human beings
We all put our pants on one leg at a time
You realize that that's the biggest problem that bothers me
About america it destroys me and it always has destroyed me
You know, listen
I'm not gonna lie nobody when I was 20
When I was 20, let's pretend the guys
That we had the opportunities that you guys have right now
You guys live in the society morisio alvarado was on here. You see the pictures he took a metallica. No, I didn't see
Jesus christ morisio was a bad motherfucker
Well, he took some pictures of uh metallica
You got a guy like morisio, okay? Um
How can I fucking say this, you know
You guys in the midwest
I used to fucking dream of communicating with aziaz born
There was zero communication
You could write a letter to his fan club. You know what that was that was bullshit
That was bullshit. You knew it and fucking he knew it. That was an internet
That was just an internet the music label, but
Today you guys could catch people you could follow my instagram and follow twitter
And if you're lucky one day you catch your favorite fucking celebrity
Okay, and I love that we all have somebody that we look up to or inspires us whether it's a musician or artist
A drummer a basketball player a football player. Hey people inspire people for many fucking different reasons, all right
We have the opportunity today to go up to these people and talk to them
And let me tell you something if I went up to julia serving or richard prior
Or you know, there was a handful of people that if I would have got to meet
I would have broke down in front of them
Because I wanted them to understand
What they meant to me at a dark time
As dumb as this sounds
But now that I do comedy
Now people come up to me sometimes and pull me over the show and go can I talk to you for a second?
You don't want to have a little problem with fucking anxiety and I listen to you. Jesus fucking christ. Thank you
I thought I was the only one who felt that way. No dog. We all put our pants on
One leg at a fucking time. There's people I think they put you know, they have uh two little fucking
Indian dudes putting their pants on
No, no, no, no, I don't want to be around those people
That's why you know when when you first came I'll never forget that one day it was like harry and
And red band and I could see it in your face. Your cheeks were red. Oh, yeah, you came along slowly
But once we started smoking weed and we were in new york, you clicked right in man
So you've had me fooled to be strictly honest with you. Do you feel like you want to speak to somebody?
Yeah, I hope they don't put you on medication. See that's the thing what I'm kind of looking for. I'm thinking maybe I need it
You don't think so
That's the easy way out in today's society. I think in my
I've never tried. I don't listen for 20 years. I talked to people who just went and spoke to somebody
They just right. Do you think that would help?
like enough
Sure the part like it. Listen when I went to get hypnotized
Part of it was hypnosis and part of it was what I was feeling for me that for her to treat me
I had to tell her what I felt when I went to jiu-jitsu
I had to tell her my insecurities when I went to the county store when I went to flappers
When I went to the club in minneapolis when I went to the club in san francisco
I had to tell her about all the things that make my heart want to fucking come out of my chest
Did it take a few meetings for you to be able to do that or you just went in and sat down paid for three
I got three on group on you know me
And then I got five more out of my pocket that insurance wouldn't pick up so it cost me a couple yard sticks
But I felt it was necessary because it take listen there's a thousand things I could tell you
But I don't want to put you in that position. There's a thousand things you want to tell me
But you don't want to put me in that position, right?
If you want to tell me i'm here for you. I'm here for anybody
But sometimes listen sometimes I rather you pay somebody a small
40
And sometimes it's just about rapping if you don't think if you guys at home
right now
Don't think that in the last three years
I've looked for maybe a men's group
A particular men's group that was talking about something
That they weren't whining or something. It was just real men
Having coffee and talking about their issues and becoming 50
Or a parent or being 45 or being 40
Or what it is to raise a family
And it's this is not five fucking guys trying to be cute. I would be there
I would be there because it would be necessary to me. I can't lie to you Lee
I think even I learned that in the halfway house and when I went to prison
I think my machismo new jersey shit doesn't allow me to go see a psychiatrist like tony soprano, right?
But I think I find my psychiatry with the podcast
I find my psychiatry talking to you
My wife helps a little bit becky helps
Eddie bravo helps joe rogan helps because I use each one of you for different security
And I could be strictly honest with you
I tell you how I feel about my comedy and you're like no no no no no that joke wasn't bad and then I'm like, okay
You know, it wasn't as bad as I thought that that joke needs work
You different friends feel different insecurities, right when you look you when you say I had you fooled
people even going back
To like my parent teacher conferences. My mom would always come home and say like I was like the class clown everyone liked me
And I just never I don't know. I just never saw it
I know I had I had some friends
But I just didn't see like this likeable. I don't know. I just didn't see it like everyone else. I guess or maybe
I don't know. I just it didn't connect with me, but I get what you're saying over the last five years
I'm definitely
A completely different person than I was when I first started it was funny in Vegas. There was a hacker conference
and it was guys that would have been
Like in a different universe. I was right at that conference with them
There were nerdy guys and even even Paula joked like they hadn't had a girlfriend. They had acne
They were they were dorks, but I like I felt
Just just seeing that made me happy and I talked with them about being hackers and they were all there being like
They were nerds just but they were happy and just
I don't know. I just looked they had the same shoes. I had they were the same people. So it was uh
I definitely had some friendships and some connections
But then I I would say it's probably been worse. I guess since I went to college
because I think
In high school like all kindergarten through high school
Like you're around all these people and you kind of are forced to find friendships and go into college for me
I went in a semester late. So I didn't have like the traditional orientation
And I'm always a slow starter with friends
And I just didn't make friends in college. I just didn't
I had friends around the city from going to school locally and thank thank god
Uh, but sometimes I wish maybe I'd gone to Drexel and like regular in september and been forced to make friends
um
And then out here I had friends at work
But it was only during work hours. It's like it was like the small talk
You make you you giggle and you make jokes and occasionally maybe go out for drinks a couple of fridays or something
but uh
I'd I'd spend a lot of my time alone
Which I like
But I think maybe it's not good for you. Well, there's a point of being alone that
you uh
Dot yourself
For a few hours or an hour. Yeah, and then all of a sudden you get hungry
And that hole gets filled by
a fucking geno's cheese steak
With french fry, you know
It doesn't take a genius to figure out why it was got so fat. It doesn't take a genius, you know
I've known since day one because you told me that you've had some social insecurities
Our bond is that I have social insecurities
For years. I've had social insecurities. I still remember a specific sunday
When I was involved in all that drug shit and going out with my friends and going to the mykai
There was a specific sunday. I was at a bar
I
Corkies
Gregory's seven-day weekend
And I never forget that I looked at these guys. I'm 21. I'm 22
And I'm looking at these guys and some of them are 30 some of them are 32 some of them are my age
Some of them are five years older
But for the most part these guys are between 30s and 40s
And I remember looking at these guys and thinking to myself, you know what man?
I gotta end this
Like I don't even enjoy this
The party like this being at the bar like I don't even and I was 21 22 tops
tops tops
And I already knew that this was not my thing
For me to be there. I had to be fucking drunk right. Yeah coked up to the gills
Just to be left the fuck alone so I couldn't communicate what I really wanted to
Which was to tell them all leave me the fuck alone that I would never want to grow up to be like those guys
Like it just bothered the fuck out of me
So right there like I don't even know how I ended up to stay in the upcoming
Because from the my mother's bar
From that time I spent in bars
I fucking couldn't wait to get the fuck out of bars like I couldn't fucking wait
Like I just could not fucking wait to get out of bars
Like I knew there was a day where I never had to go back on the fucking bar again
Unless they had a tremendous like clam chowder
Or a cheese steak or a fucking soup or a lunch special
I always uh knew that you know
That that I wanted to get the fuck out of there
It's it's amazing what your insecurities and even today
Even today, you know, I go to a city
I'm enthused blah blah blah. I see the people I have a great time
I still have this
I have to work myself up. But once I'm there, I have a great time
Well, I'm taking pictures of people and shit after the show. I'm having a good time
Oh, yeah, it's when they bother me later once it's done and they come back
The picture was blurry my mind somewhere else. But once I'm there
I'm having a dynamic time on that line. I'm messing around with the guy's wives. I'm talking to the husband
They're talking about you
It's a sensational time for me. My insecurity comes in the ride to the airport
I think about my family. I think about an earthquake
I think about the cats getting loose, you know, you think about all this shit that bad now
Because I've read that out of war. I know exactly what that is. It's resistance
So you learn how to deal with all those fucking feelings
I think it could help because I've just I've just been
Program myself. I guess to push things down. I I just
I don't think there's not really someone that I really can fight with I guess. I don't think there is
No, there is Paula. Well, no, I definitely can find certain things. Oh, yeah, there's you have to uh
It's not like I don't tell anyone anything
But there's certain there's a I feel like there's always a level. There's always a ceiling
Well, we'll go on group on
And get yourself a little psychotherapy. I have good insurance. I maybe maybe they cover it. I don't know
I don't think so. They're still gonna bang you out 400 an hour going to find some body and fucking
Go three or four times and hopefully they'll heal you. I'll pay for the five-month package
And see what they'll charge you but it's always good. You know, I don't know if a group would work for you
You know, when I was in a group at the halfway house, it was a joke for me
I didn't take none of that shit seriously when I went to that fucking
Three hour a day rehab. I took it as a fucking joke. I didn't fucking take that shit seriously
I don't know. I don't know me. I like it part of me thinking I'd be too shy in front of a group
But maybe if I saw other people sharing I'd be
More willing to I don't know
Well being too shy in front of this group
Again goes back to your fears. Yeah, fuck it. Go to a group
Sign up
Make a commitment to go every Thursday morning at 10 o'clock whatever the fuck it is sadly a one whatever the fuck it is
Just make commitment to go and see if it takes care of what I've listened man one week every month
One week every month
and it happened to me
A little bit last week one day Tuesday Wednesday
I stuck in these feelings man
and it's
It goes back to being a child
That I'm just not happy
That no matter what position I have in my fucking life
I'm never fucking happy
I can only and come on man
What do I have to be sad about?
Not not much
Not fucking much, but there was two or three days last week
Where I was like just what the fuck
And at first I think that you know you watch all these commercials for depression
And I would watch these things insomnia
There's a little bit depression, you know all that type of stuff
uh
I gotta tell you man the last year year and a half I've done it
I think the last three or four years more than ever. I've really done a really good job of keeping my mind
Sharp, you know like I've been over
Doing it like whether it's writing jokes
Listen for 15 years. I don't even know how I got through this fucking career
Because I didn't really buy I wrote whatever I felt as I was fucking walking around
It wasn't nothing from my heart
Nothing was from my heart. It didn't start coming from my heart till
nine years ago and maybe seven years ago was when this whole thing started and the podcasting came alone
but
Now I challenge myself mentally so much
You know like I forced myself to write a story
I forced myself to write stand-up
You know every morning I keep like a dialogue in the morning. I first get up with coffee
Just to spill out whatever I'm feeling for the day, but I remind myself
What the fuck do I got to be upset about today? God gave me another day that I learned
When you wake up in the morning God giving you and you're healthy and you got both your fucking legs and both your feet
Oh, yeah, and that's the fucked up God gave you another day to her. It's not that I'm unhappy
No, it's a day. It's a weird difference because I'm not on paper. I should be the happiest and I am I'm
29 yes college educated right you have something to fall back on you have a piece of paper that'll get you there
You've been working on a podcast for six years and was self-sufficient
Was self
sufficient
Okay, whether it's ads bop beep bop boop boop beep this industry is growing
Absolutely now
If you come to me and you go, you know what I've been talking with paul and maybe I want to give something else a shot
I understand you
I fucking get right
I get life. I've always gotten life
If this doesn't make you happy or some part of your life's not making you happy
But you got me fooled so but it's a I don't want to make you I don't I feel bad that I don't want to make
Think that I fooled you don't make it. You're not making me feel bad. It just
It opens up my eyes to watch you a little more, but I don't know like who knows like maybe
like
not that
Like like if you're saying, okay, go go maybe podcasting isn't making you happy
But I love what I'm I love what I'm doing
There's an unlimited potential
There's I don't know if you saw there's a podcast from st quentin or something now. It's fucking amazing like the inmates inside are making
It
But the who knows there's always doubt in your mind. Maybe I should be maybe I should still be editing who knows
Maybe I should be a hacker like I saw this weekend. Maybe I should go to one of those tech boot camps and become an app builder
But the thing that I think what I forget how you
Phrased it, but you always said like go to the root of the problem
I think the root might like I think
I don't know if it's I don't think it's gonna like be like a bright light like once I get some once I talk to someone
I'm gonna see what I'm supposed to do with my life, but maybe it'll be
Maybe it'll be clear
Who knows me because I that's what I feel that that's what's really frustrated me for the past
Couple years is because this is in the infancy of the podcasting. I feel like I don't really know where I'm going
I don't like that feeling
and
I've been searching for it and
So that like it's it's a little weird
So maybe if I talk to someone, I'll be able to see which direction
right
From your eyes, okay, what type of attitude have I always had towards this podcast?
professional uh consistent
uh
That it's a business
Anytime I spoke to you about the future of it was I wrong?
I told you if we work this out the right way, blah blah blah
You know how much worry I put into this podcast over the years
A lot where this is going
zero no way
I'm gonna tell you why okay, please
We're very honest. Uh-huh. We're very humble
We're very professional. We're consistent
And we're doing all the right things
If we were coming out here and talking about the same thing we were talking about four years ago
Or making dumb jokes I could see anybody who's watched this show and been with us for a time
Known that we've both grown as men
part of my growth has been
This show right now you don't see it
but 10 years from now
Whenever you go to a radio station
And you talk to somebody during the break like what we do when people come in right a lot of times I go into a radio station
And they do only 15 minute break
Because it's a report about missiles from Korea
And I sit there with them and I talk to them
And they'll tell me do you remember this station in Jersey? I don't know that was my first intern job out of college
For the guy who went to prison for gaudi for shaking down the strip club sparks in new york
I forget what the guy's name was. He does comedy also
Every radio guy talked to started where you are right now like this is
Like you know what I'm saying like out of college. This is what they got they were interns for this guy
I mean you heard great garcia
Said he had three episodes ago right and spoke about his thing and how
What you're doing right now whether you stick with it or not believe in that
You're gonna learn from this experience
When you're 48 and you're running a corporation
You're still gonna use the principles you learned that we've discussed on this show
Because you saw them work. Yeah, you saw them work
We're not doing nothing to listen. I never told nobody that you and I are the most intelligent things in the world
We can't talk to nobody about real. I mean who the fuck's gonna take us serious when we talk about fitness
Right shop pulling and shit
Nobody'll talk to us about a diet. The only thing we know is where good food is one thing people know at home is where our heart is
And when you know where your heart is like I've always told you if I was doing blow
This podcast wouldn't have lasted more than a year. I would have fucked you over
I wouldn't have showed up three or four times
You would have just gone. This ain't gonna fucking work
Because I had no respect for myself. Why would I have respect for these fucking people?
Why would I have respect for you? Right when you're doing drugs you're disrespecting yourself. Who gives a fuck that was part of it
That's part of the who give a fuck that I was trying to tell you about
all it
It is where you become
When I got the longest yard on tape
I didn't get the longest yard because I was better than anybody who listens to this show
I got the longest yard because when I put I put that audition on tape on my own
Which meant I really don't give a fuck what you think about who you need for this movie
I'm telling you who you need for that movie
So even the cocaine at that time
Was making me a little reckless. It got me that role
When I think back to Italy the cocaine fuck. Yeah
Because I went home one night and I got all coked up
And I had the breakdown the breakdown. I had it printed and in my house
Okay, okay the breakdown for this movie came out April 5th
Of two fucking thousand and four
And I had it on my desk printed
April fucking fifth like that night
And I looked at that casting director and I figured out every way to get in there
And the first thing I did the first fucking morning
I did the same thing for spider-man. I did the same thing for american gangster
I did the same thing for inside man. I did this about seven or eight times
Well, I didn't really give a fuck what you fucking thought Lee
I'm telling you I'm the role for this fucking analyze that the second one
Oh, I beat them to a pulp
I was beat them to a pulp just being crazy. Just not we're giving a fuck
I would call them once a week. What do you hear anything? What's going on with the tape?
That's crazy
When I think about that now, I wouldn't have the fucking balls to do that now
Would they be like stop calling? Yes, would you please? We'll contact your agent when we find out
I got in with Susie Faris
Who was an assistant then and now she's a big shot now. He would she cast Whitney coming show
She's casting a couple shows right now. So
Everyone's so I got to call from uh agents. Hey, you have an audition for this
I look at it Susie Faris because of the relationship
From 2003 would analyze that
Because she was the assistant to the casting agent
And she still brings you in she still calls me in sometimes from time to time
She caught me in for Whitney and she called me in for something else that she was casting
So these are all they were because I didn't give a fuck
When I got listen guys when I got that piece of paper and I read the long first of all the longest you are
When that movie came out I was a fucking kid and I was at the movie theater that sunday
And I got to tell you something the whole movie theater was losing their mind at the end
You left the movie theater fucking going. What the fuck was that?
That was just tremendous
prison guards getting beat up by far everybody was going fucking
Everybody was going crazy. So when we fucking left there
I still remember the feeling I had so now they're gonna redo it
When my agent called me and I go listen call them up. They wouldn't even take his call. He's such a smuck
The guy I love him dearly. I still talked to him. Right, right. I still talked to him
I love him dearly. I said call down as he was going on. It took him about a week. I had to break down in my house
It took him about a week
Finally he calls me back. I was okay. Listen. Here's the deal. They won't even look at your tape
They don't want to see you because they want a star
Let me tell you some guys. I started fucking crying that night on the coke
The cocaine made me cry for three days
I walked around disappointed. I didn't know what I was gonna do
How I was gonna fucking do it. How I was gonna gonna get in that door
I don't even know Adam Sam. I don't know nobody who knows Adam Sam
I don't know nobody knew Chris rock and Chris rock dug me
Chris rock dug me, but I don't know his number
I don't know who to fuck to call. I'm not that crazy to call Chris rock. You wouldn't call him. No, I'm not that fucking crazy
Would you ever show up at anyone's office or door?
Well, the first thing I did the next morning was I took a head even though they didn't want to see me right I took a headshot
a fucking resume
a bio and I hand read a letter gotcha and
I against all my beliefs
I put a a tape
Of me from the mezzos when I played the gay mobster
in a short film for fox
38 whatever the fuck that is fox 22
So I put that in there right and I dropped it off
And I didn't hear nothing and that broke my heart
I was broken fucking hard
And then I called another agent friend of mine and he told me that they had two people in mind
And I was like those two guys are fucking great. They're celebrities
But they're not funny. Adam's looking for funny
so one night
when I was all coked up
I fucking made a plan with myself
I was about four in the morning that when I woke up
I was gonna call my friend an ICM to ship me the original script in the longest yard
And then I was gonna call chuck savage from houston
And have chuck come over and take me to the university of texas
And shoot scenes of me throwing a ball
And fucking huddling and then we were gonna go to lap stop
And shoot the scenes in the locker room when they agree
In the real movie. Okay. They agree to go in there against the guards. Did you get the script or I got the script?
I got the old script
And I just fucking the italian guy. That's not really italian. He's got blue eyes. Okay
I just took his shit
And I went in there and read it and put it on tape
And we sent it to fucking casting
And we sent it to one of the producers
To his house to his office to his office. I said take a chance columbus did
Jesus
And by the time I got back from houston, I had a fucking call
They actually watched it and let me tell you something and because i'm crazy and the cocaine I did in houston that mexican cartel cocaine
That's what made me call fucking the casting director. Where's tom? There's totally better cocksucker
It's monday cocksuckers july 30
Another month flies by
crazy
But it breaks your heart august 1st to rent this dude bitches
some somebody
Twice as smart. I guess you're not going to disney land this week
For somebody who
Will swear to be true
As you used to do with me
Who
Leave you to learn
That misery loves company
Wait and see
I mean I want to be around
To see how he does it fucking tremendous tremendous
It still tugs my fucking heart that song
Is there a specific part or just the whole thing just
Little parts of it when I'm really really listened
To the specifics of it. It's really weird how
Sometimes it triggers me sometimes it doesn't tonight. It fucking got me a little bit
I still am being a fucking kid
Agreeing to go in the boat my mom to open it. Sometimes I would convince her just to go up there open it
I'll take a cab later on and come up
How old were you
eight nine ten
If you take a cab by yourself, fuck it all the time. Oh my god
Have you seen this there's videos of these like this kid from I think he's in New Jersey, New York
He's like a little I imagine it's kind of like you he's like he goes in and goes to the back of the sandwich places
But he's just really like confident. I just imagine you just like
I can't imagine getting in a cab at eight or nine. It was a short cab ride. It was like uh
Going from hollywood to studio city, you know, like a short cab was going up there from sea is to my mother's bar
But sometimes I have to go up there with her. She go fuck that shit
Come up with me right now. You got to help me with garbage. Fuck
And I go up there and take the garbage out while she was taking a fucking garbage out
She'd play this song four or five times
and she was mopping
She would take buckets of hot water
With fucking bleach in it and scrub those bar floors
Then she would wipe down all the chairs and she would wipe down the bar
And she would hose the fucking floor. She was a clean freak, man
She would unplug the fucking record player and we played in the back
There was another record player that you put so she had this. I mean, it was just tremendous
And she did this every monday. She lit candles
For all the fucking spirits. She cooked
Lunch every monday monday was like a big family day at the fucking bar
But she always played this song but she played this song every fucking day, though
At one point in the night somebody would play this fucking song
Somebody would go, you know, we played this fucking song for you
And I'd sit down here this song three times in the fucking day. I want to shoot myself
And now I like listen to it every monday. It's become part of the show 500 fucking episodes every monday
We've had they know that's called 250 at least. Yeah, that's called consistency cocksucker. We don't fuck around
Lee, I'm very happy that
You spoke openly about what you go through dog. I listen
I think there's times if it wasn't for this podcast
I tell people stories. I tell you people what the fuck is bothering me
There's times I'm sleeping
And I'll wake up and think of something I gotta let these people know about this is the craziest thing I ever heard
Right right now the reason why
I went to jujitsu 15 times this month
Wow 15 has a lot of times this month and like 13 last month, you know
Why do I do this? I do this because the people who listen to the podcast are watching me
They're waiting for me to sit down and go. Hey man, I quit
I can't do that. I joined with them and I'm gonna stick what out with them
To the end just so they know that if I could do it at 50 fucking four in my fat ass
They could do anything the fuck they want
That's why I do it. I do it because I can't stop now
I got too many eyes on me. Plus I love it
Plus I can feel myself getting better. I'm getting sharper. I'm getting better on stage because an art is an art
Whenever you work an art from any direction, there was a great comic out here once. He's still great
He does colleges now and I think local clubs in atlanta because he's raising his daughter
um, Cory Miller
Cory Miller had a distinctive style of writing on monday. He wrote comedy on tuesday. He wrote poetry
On wednesday. He wrote a tv show
On thursday. He wrote a movie and on friday. He wrote comedy
So every day the genres would always open. He had every channel open when he wrote
I couldn't believe he would do it. I go. Why would you write a movie? You're not gonna fucking sell it
Either in matter you're writing
You're attacking you're making your mind move
and sometimes I think
and lea
Again, you had me fooled
But one of my things lea has always been
that
Idol hands is the devil's workshop lea. Yeah
I have said this shit. I say it to myself
I said it to myself from the tip dog when I was 19
Every time I thought about robbing somebody it was because I was sitting down not working
Really? Yeah
I never thought of robbing somebody when I was loading trucks making 18 bucks an hour
So then why do you quit the jobs then?
Because I thought of robbing somebody
Trying to break or something. Yeah, like when you're sitting there all fucking day watching mtv smoking pot
Right, and you're thinking of the things that you don't have
What happens to you?
Yeah, because you go to a spiral. It's a nervous breakdown you have by yourself
God for god forbid you smoke marijuana
Yeah, and it's god forbid you smoke marijuana. It's weird. Like you were talking earlier like how like
All this stuff is going great for you and that's part of like I say that like like that's part of it
It's like you like why aren't you happier? Like why like why aren't you happy me? No, no, no, like that's what I say to myself
I'm the same thing. So like that's why am I not happy. I don't lea
I sit here and I go I'm going to last week. They had to be like Tuesday
There was a part of the day where I was in that office
And what sometimes when I start feeling that way
I shoot out in front of the sun in my backyard
And I forced myself to sit in the chair outside in front of the sun
I take a joint out there with me. I take a pipe out there with me. Sometimes I just take a thing of water
and I sit out there
And I absorb some of that vitamin D and whatever thoughts I'm having goes away
But I've always been a firm believer idle hands
Is the devil's workshop you're saying joy. What does that mean? I'm gonna stab my grandmother. No
No
idle hands the devil's workshop means
The devil creeps into your mind
That's when you start thinking about what you don't have what you need to do
Again, we go back to the periscope. Why the fuck are you thinking?
You know, you have this thing right now, and you're a great kid. You know, I love you to death and I got you covered here
And we're a family and we have a great time and the the guests love you and people know who the fuck you are
Casinos and whatnot. It's not this wasn't about fame
No, this for me wasn't about fame and fame makes me very uncomfortable. Yes. So this is and really think you see me the fucking convertible
You see me the bmw you see me
You see me posting pictures of me at premieres and shit like that
I get invited to once a month. I get invited to something
And you know what the night of I feel terrible for not going because I should be there
But uh, I don't belong there. I'm not a movie fucking star. Why am I gonna go to the fake? Who am I gonna go talk to?
What the fuck do you want to talk to me about?
What do you want? I think people want to talk to you about a lot about what about smoking palm
What about hanging out with you about what it's like to be? I don't know. What the fuck?
That's how I feel in my mind. Right. That's the devil's workshop
You know when that happens when I'm sitting here high by myself for 20 minutes
And I'm going what do I got on the books tomorrow or tomorrow? I gotta go
Meet this guy at 10. I'm gonna try to catch Jiu-Jitsu over here
At two. I'm gonna try to connect with Shane and then I'm gonna go do this thing at seven. Well, guess what?
When I wake up and Lee leads the judge Lee knows
When I wake up the next morning Lee and I call you like so what time are you doing this? I go I cut that out today
I got rid of it. I'm not going all the way down there. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing that
What do you think it makes me do that because I'm lazy
You think I'm fucking lazy? You know because I'm fearful
I cut that out. I pushed that meeting back. Right. It's everything for me to get ahead
But his office made me a marina del Rey and poor joey doesn't want to drive the 20 fucking miles
I have my problems man. I have my issues
That's what makes this fucking great. That's what lets me go up on stage and connect with people
But they know they know what the fuck we're talking about here, man
Last weekend by anxiety before comedy anxiety in general. I have it worse than anybody
I just don't let it beat me Lee
I I often I cannot lie to you
I often think I suffer from some form of depression
And as a matter of fact, I think I do
I just don't let it get a grasp on me
I think you're right about the idle idleness. I think absolutely Lee. I have been beating you up
For five years about Lee get up and get out
That is the best thing an individual could do for themselves
Why do you think I tell you that?
Because I get you out of the house and get your legs moving but more importantly and get your mind moving
And those listen, I could sit here guys and quote a book
And try to be intelligent. I don't know what it's called
But I know that they show the brain after 20 minutes of working out
You see those pictures over at opposed to lesbians. What happens to your brain when you walk crawl?
Do jumping jacks certain things happen to your brain? And I know for me
When I was a fucking criminal listen to this
I would wake up in the morning with three or four bucks
I'd figure out a breakfast
And I had a target or maybe two targets
And they both had to be in the same neighborhood because I was walking down there because I didn't have money for a bus
I didn't have a fucking constant getaway drive
but
That walk
To go down there
Sometimes either clarify the situation for me and make me rob one guy instead of another
Or sometimes it would stop me from robbing somebody
You know why way good time because the walk
Cleared my head and cleared who the fuck I was. I wasn't on the couch
And I wasn't getting beat ups
Now instead guess what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go eat my pride
and borrow 30 bucks from george
And fuck it. He's owed me 100 for two years. I'll figure out how I'm gonna give back to him
And that's what I do instead of fucking going to rob what I was gonna do. You know why?
Because I got up and I went for a fucking walk not a drive
A driving a douchey. No, I can't a driving a douchey for your body or your brain
It'll stimulate you a little bit because you have to get out and we'll go to the car for your starbucks
But there's nothing like when you feeling shitty
Listen, I'm not talking about lifting weights or going to jiu-jitsu or going to karate or breaking bricks with your head
I'm not talking nothing about that. I'm talking. You're sitting in that living room
And you feel those walls closing in
Which we've all fucking felt that I feel it for years. I went to prison
But till today when I don't sit when I don't see a window in the room
I freak the fuck out. Why?
Because there's no out for me
The door
Listen, I gotta go to the heart doctor on thursday. I've been canceling on this guy for two years
You know why the one it's on the 18th floor and the windows the size of a prison vent
It's smaller than our fucking vent and every time you go in there
He makes me do this test
Where they shoot ink in me and then they put me through a scanner and see where the leaks are in my heart
Let me tell you something that fucking ink
Makes me go fucking bananas
It makes my heart beat to death. They gotta come in there and give me xanax and shoot fucking
It's two hours of hell for me. Jesus Christ. I get there at seven
And I walk out at 11 fucking thinking what just happened to me. I feel like daniel called me after they kick
I'm like, what the fuck happened. I don't know. I was doing well. I don't know what happened
They tell me I kicked the lead bro every time the first time I went in there. I was about 400 pounds
And lee you have no idea what anxiety is
I didn't know what I was getting involved in right me either. Yeah, okay. I went down there and he said tomorrow
You're doing this this and this
And then you're gonna do a stretch not a stress test, but this thing with your heart
And he goes bring a sandwich
And bring us whatever you want to drink and bring an apple
Bring food because you're gonna need it
So, uh
What the fuck was I saying this fucking robot's over here
uh, the heart heart like walking there
And the chick comes in and she does the ekg and she checks my heart
And i'm straight lee and the next thing, you know
They fucking put a what's that shit in your hand the needle
The fucking intravenous IV IV Jesus christ, you know, I got nothing in my stomach
I feel like shit already. They put the intravenous in
I breathe through it. I work it out. Jesus christ almighty
They take me into a fucking room. They shoot something in that balloon
And they make me get on the fucking treadmill
And then they turn it up to like 92
I'm 400 pounds. I'm trying to run uphill at 715 the morning dog
And i'm telling you what they have a tremendous view in that room
You see people's balconies and bevelly hills. It's on century bull. It's on
It's in bevelly hills like the I don't even think it's really bevelly hills guys. I'm just
It's a down the block from ca
Whatever that fucking is. It's all the way closer to some is it's appalled with no, yeah
Like uh, what's the street that everybody says to go on not bevelly?
But they say if you're in that time of town Beverly Glen. No, no, no if you're shooting up hollywood laterally
Instead of going up. What's olympic olympic? So it's avenue of the stars and olympic
That's what the doctor's office is
So the one view was just gorgeous
And that's where they put the fucking ink in you
But that that standmaster I did
Oh my god, Lee
I had to tell him to stop and they're like no 45 more seconds
And I'm like you either fucking stop this one. I'm gonna go through that goddamn window
Passing out and they had to stop it and sit me down
And ask me if I want to get an electric shock to my heart. I was in bad shape, Lee
Then they took me inside they they put an ink in you
And they then they put you on like an x-ray machine
Hey, they see where your heart has fucking different problems
That must be very scary. Sure. It's fucking scary. It's not scary for a guy like you because you like being fucking stuck with needles
Oh, yeah, no like me. I shit my fucking pants every time we go for this fucking goddamn thing
But you know what I do it. You know why because I do it for me
I do it for the listeners
And I do it for my family because I know I can't say fuck it
And then get a heart attack or something. It's it's amazing how you have to step up at some point in your life for years
I didn't step up with dick, Lee
I got some of it. No, no, no my my nose was actually what do you mean step up step up
I would always cave on everything. I caved for my fucking
For my army exam
I caved to be fucking this
I came you know how many jobs I had
But you know how many jobs I got and didn't show up the night before when I got fucked up
And didn't fucking show up. How many Jesus christly and then you wouldn't go the second day
No, fuck it. You didn't go the first day. Who wants to see the second day?
What are you gonna go and then tell them a story how your your cat got run over?
You just tell that story a couple times
To you like who's gonna believe that fucking story? What do I keep using that fucking story for?
Jesus
So you were like just sabotaging yourself at every corner
Go sabotage
It's fucking huge
And you see it in so many ways and come on. I lived it
I lived it so I see it coming and going
If you want me to sit here and tell you oh my god
Oh my god
There was a fucking a seven-year stretch
Like two or three times
Why completely lived that lifestyle of what of just
Self-sabotage getting in your own way
Did it happen because something good was about to happen or always
God for fucking bids something good happened. I'm a piece of shit. Why would something fucking good happen?
Why would somebody why would somebody give me a job? Why would something good happen?
What the fuck, you know, what the fuck why that's self-sabotage?
Why am I gonna do this job? He's just gonna fire me anyway, right? Yeah, eventually my car. It's like fucking
I don't want this thing
You know, I got a thousand jobs, but there was a thousand
I woke up the next one. I'm like fuck that buck. I could hear the phone ringing and everything
People knock on the door and I'm not answering that shit
That's crazy. I've never done that one. See that's the thing. I always felt
When I had a job I felt like I'd feel
Uh, what's the word?
I felt like I had to
Do at least I tried to try. It was a I don't know a responsibility like I like I liked
It's been harder for me to try to do my own thing than to have someone tell me what to do
Listen, some people are built to work for somebody else, right? Some people could take it so long
Go, you know what I could do this
Do it 100% better and maybe do a little cheap or make a living on my own, right?
Maybe involve my wife maybe involve my my dumb kid whatever the fuck it's it's it's it's natural
Listen, it's very natural
To want things late
There's nothing wrong. Nobody wants to sit
Nobody wants to
grow
All right, everybody want I mean, I'm sorry
Everybody wants to grow isn't the issue if it if you never feel like
There's like there has to be some point where you're feeling okay. Don't I mean
I don't I don't want not to mean like it's over growing as a person but
That's when you think that there'd be some point
Or do you think it's an old it's a process being okay and being content
Of what your life ended up or what are you saying?
I don't know. It's a being content with your life
Listen, man, if you know where you come from
And you've done something you'll always be content
Even if you didn't amount to whatever the fuck you wanted to amount to
What do you think I amounted to what the fuck I wanted to amount to
In the back of my head
I always want to live my life to make my I want to live my life like my mother was alive
I wanted to complete what she wanted to do. I mean, who the fuck are we kidding right society?
us old geezers
We did whatever the fuck your family told you they were right
Whether we liked it or not, whether we understood it
And then we ended up with substance abuse and ended up just like they did
Because you do something for the fucking money
Or for somebody else, you know, but I would my path would have been completely different. I hope
But for a while I thought listen before I kidnap Bella
Lisa how crazy is that?
That I was two or three semesters
From applying at law school at the University of Colorado
And the crazy thing is
I was probably gonna get in the Latino Spanish program
That is a fucking reality people three semesters
And at that at that time I did not have
I'm trying to figure out when I took my gd. You know, it's funny. I mean not funny, but kind of sad
Three semesters is probably 18 months. Probably what you did in prison
I I was three semesters away because I lost credits when I transferred from ccm
To the University of Boulder continuing education
All right, and then once I had too many credits and continuing ed
They go you got to get into the school. I said you guys won't let me
They said you get on the Latino plan then they let me get
And all I had to do was get a guaranteed c-plus or something
A fucking moron could get a c-plus. Right. It was such a soft program at the time
They gave you money. So now I'm in this
I enrolled in the first semester. I got c-u-o-p
I got all this shit and one day after the fucking
Thing they were having a latino seminar
You know one in the afternoon. They were giving out free food
Some mexican place was catering. You thought I liked okay. I went there
And I took the year beating from the law school
And I took the year beating from the engineering school
Where the astronauts go they had a few latino programs
Fuck you. You don't see the little tino astronauts and you shoot up in the moon
I could see you being a lawyer
So the law thing was something I always was interested in right my mother used to always break my balls and go
When you get old you're gonna be a fucking lawyer
One hour out or whatever
So I thought about it
and then uh
I met with
Somebody from the law school like two weeks later
They had like a seminar day
And I signed up and I had like a 330
And I met with somebody from the law school for a half hour for free consultation and questions
I did all this guys does like what what it takes to get in and I was snorting coke
I was robbing the fucking uh, what's the store where everybody goes to buy books and shit like
No, no, no the college books on campus the bookstore. Yeah, like the big one
There's always one big one where everybody goes where you going in and your parents are in there with a credit card
Right and you could buy used books or new books
But they've got supplies and bags and sneakers and
Everything they had at this place for some reason they had a thing of watches
Just watches for $30 a piece like 39 50
A couple timex watches didn't your eyes like widen when you saw that as soon as I saw that I kept it in my mind
And I knew that that was going to be lunch someday
I wasn't going to be a big heist, but it was very simple. It wasn't connected to an alarm
And nobody would catch it. Right. Yeah, at least I asked sure
I walk in there one day when I went to jacket
Pick the thing up like she's my girlfriend
And I walked the fuck out of there with the whole all of them the whole thing
I think I see I put three in my pocket and then I went and I got 20 dollars. I got a chinese lunch
I went to my friend's house. I broke the case with a hammer
I took all of them out. He put them in his truck and took them
To some fucking dumpster and he came back. I had a more pretty
And I took him to some fucking point shop in long month
Some fucking mexican that bought anything
And I took it to him and be he bought all of them. I think I made one
400 500 bucks for me. That was a fucking score. That was like me and the mafia
You could you do one of those a day? Oh, I went back the next day because when I stole the watches
I saw they had parker pens
Those really good fucking pens. They had two cases one a parker
And one of the other big good ones. Why don't you just grab them that day because I already had one
Covered I had to have the other one to block in case the security guard got cute. I got to fucking
Block them like fucking, uh, you know, you're doing no you're always multitasking. You're you're stealing and casing at the same time
This is crazy. Oh my god. I'm going to campus. I'm fucking married
And I'm the way and I'm like, let me go. I would go and then clip books
Like if you came to me and said don't they want 52 dollars for that book
I'm gonna feed it now for 25 that 25 cash. Are you gonna get it? Don't worry about none
I was going there with a book bank. I robbed a book a day
I was always good for a 20 a day out of that place
You just probably people who like were like talk of you like the book terror like it was fucking terrible
You would just do everything. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed till this day like when it was
Disrespectful completely on my end
just there was it was like
Even rogan said to me goes the first time I went to bolder
I understood I understood that he goes. I couldn't remember. He was like a candy store for you and this is
20 25 years before that
They weren't prepared for this time right like that. I broke into a cookie thing one day through the window a cookie store
Like those cookies you stole money from the cookie man. There was maybe 80 bucks
And here's the crazy thing. I had 10 000 in the bank. What why would I break into a cookie store?
Because I was a fucking degenerately
So you like breaking into stores. I like the whole thing. I liked whatever made my heart beat
Yeah, I liked whatever made my heart beat
And a week later called and I got credit cards and I was doing that and then I was not doing for a week
So I knew the cops would be alerted
But now I show up with a different card and work it again
And then I just start going to restaurants away from where I was living
I go to every restaurant away from where I was living to throw them off through off
They were the cops the investigators
Because eventually you're gonna go to one of those places
And they're gonna go excuse me. So I need to see id
I'm not gonna have idea. They're gonna go want to call the police, but they can't hold
Okay, you walk out of there you get in your car. They might get your license, but you might keep walking
And see somebody, you know when you get out of there
When the cops come the two or three days from now, they're gonna get for 10 restaurants
And they're gonna get for a little alerts
That they come so they came in here spent 60 dollars and it was a stolen credit card. It's weird how it works
So they start thinking wait a second whoever fucking did this lives in the neighborhood
But if you don't live in the neighborhood it makes it
It throws them off a little bit. So you do it everywhere. What was your radius?
40 miles 30 miles. How much would you scan them for? Let me explain something
The more I did it the dumber I got
Then I went down to a 10 mile radius
The nice subtle four or five mile radius, which is really bullshit that they got you zero on it
right
What did you get lazy or what was it?
Listen, you always get
Caught because you get cute and you cut out one of the steps
You eliminate a step because you think you're that good at doing what you're doing
And maybe that step is the most important step in the whole move that you're making
That's why you always cover the steps the same way every time
Something like that when you're in there, you know that you covered those steps
So is that is that the you're the job of someone like my age like just figuring out the steps
I mean, you've obviously put a groundwork down here
But there's always that's everything's evolving life is life right
You know what the beauty is about life. It's a fucking surprise every fucking day
I don't like surprises at 20. How old are you at 28?
9 29 29 for me was
1992
I just started comedy. I was six months into comedy. I had just gotten separated. I lost my job
I
Was three semesters short of a college education and at this time I also had a family
I forgot what I kept the apartment the condo. So I forgot what the mortgage payment was there
I didn't have a fucking car payment
But my father-in-law took back the truck from the construction company
So I had to buy a car
So what did dumb joey d is do he went and bought an accurate integra
At 400 a month with no job back then. Yeah. Oh my god. How is that stupid?
You know the guys listen were family now. Let's be honest
I went I bought an integra
My money was 400 a month for that 100 for insurance my condo payment was 1250 a month the 950 who the fuck knows
All right, whatever it was. I couldn't afford a lick of it
Not to mention cocaine not to mention a girlfriend
dinners trying to be johnny goomba
Take out video rentals
That's what my nut was with no fucking job. There's burning through your savings
Burning through credit cards. Oh my god. Like I owned the fucking bank
Like something was gonna happen. Eventually that dude
That killed the fucking guy at that bar, right sold valium
And valiums with the v's the good ones
Well, high dollar ones
All over the country people wanted those things and here in my backyard
This fucking guy was selling them for fucking 50 cents
People were paying a dollar and a quarter or a dollar seventy fucking five for these things. Wow
Next thing, you know
I can start getting the hand of those and I start sending them back and that caught me up a little bit
Because I was sending at least a thousand xanax valiums at a time with the veal
So I got into business with this guy. That's why I knew he was fucking crazy
He was getting tons of those things tons tons tons bags
garbage bags
And you're selling them for a dollar seventy five. I was selling them for 125
I was making close to a dollar on each one
If they would pay cash
I would send the amount and they would get it three days later and I would get the money zipped to me
How quickly would you sell a thousand valiums? You're you were one day? You were the wholesaler one call. Yeah
I would get him from the killer
You tell me what you want and I'd soliti
And then I mean I gave people a minimum
And then I finally to really make money. I just got a fucking shipload from
And flew him back to newark
And went to a bar and the whole fucking ball was eating valium at
$2 a piece
And I was selling a hundred valium for I forget what the fuck I was selling them. I was making two times my money
And I ended up borrowing that guy like six hundred dollars
And when I went back in 93, I went to his job
And I told him what happened and he goes listen. I need that money
Make a list. I'll give you like a hundred bucks a week. He goes no problem
I gave him a hundred bucks for six weeks
And I gave him something like an ounce of weed and stuff as I thank you
And I'll never forget that he put the weed in his pocket and he goes hey man
I'm not mad at you
But he goes it wasn't cool what you did
I know you called
We used to send the money right away. I go this time. I didn't know how long I was gonna stay, you know
I'm sorry if I put you in a bad position
He goes if it ever happens again, I just want to let you know
We're gonna do some boxing
I'll never forget when he told me that I shit a little bit out of my asshole. Absolutely
And I don't think I ever did business with him ever again. He's probably very happy about that. Oh, oh my god
That's scary as hell. He's all gone now. He's all forgotten about
That's a
Just a scary way to live your life
Do you do you think about going to law school? Like I mean I'm not now I'm like do you ever think about
What would have happened or do you put that out of your mind?
I put it out of my mind. I don't want to get sad
I don't want to be sad about right things. I should have done
I think often sometimes I go fuck it. I quit when I'm doing
I'll do stand up on the weekends and I go to law school Monday Tuesday Wednesday night
Right, you could try it all over again. I'm 54 years old
There was someone in Paul's class who was 40. That's a complete different than 50 fucking four
Yeah, but you don't need them. You don't need it like that. It's a career change. You maybe just where am I gonna find
The 62 hours to study league
You have you make your own schedule once you're with a book center
I don't even have fucking time to watch a movie now. When would you like for me to study 62 hours a week?
Let's go to class. Pretty soon. Mercy's gonna be in school. Yeah
That's gonna be so great to see and we could do homework together at night
And then she has to take a bath. I'm still doing homework
And then she goes to bed. I'm still doing home. I'm gonna take a full course. Love every take one glass
And then she fucking wakes up. I'm sitting there drinking coffee smoking cigarettes still doing goddamn homework
She's persistent. I got I want to listen what keeps the lights on is me doing stand up
I wish I could take a law course
Right now with two, you know how much I I try to really write even though I get shit results
Right, I try to do a lot of things like I just don't have it. I would be honest with you if there was a vote tech school
Three mile. I like a valley college. They don't have a real introduction to law or it doesn't really worth anything
I've always thought about we spoke about years ago. Me getting the two of you almost went to history class, right?
No, I got a tutor and two to flaked out of me. They want to do then
He can only do it on mondays at 6 15 the fucking morning
Who wants to get up on a monday morning and hear about george washington's fucking 15 the fucking morning when i'm half goddamn away
All right, let me give some shout out to you as I got some beautiful fucking people
I want to thank everybody number one
Who came out to the borgata from the bottom of my heart? You made me feel
Fucking tremendous man
mickey bart or you motherfucking divo
Timmy h little timmy ryan
Taking over motherfucking seacarkers. Let me give some shout outs to beard of wisdom
He's a new listener brian tovar don wrangler
My man lauren rozenker is going through some tough times. I want to let him know i'm thinking about him
steve scott
cheesecake socks
alex castino
always in the house
Mark vieira always in the house and i'd like to thank the borgata for having me last week
And also uh, i'm at the ice house this saturday working at one uncle joey
7 30 15 dollars
And then the following thursday
san francisco punchline bitches
I had to drop out of the burbank
comedy festival
Because i got an unexpected job shooting two days on the tv show
So if you bought tickets, i'm very fucking sorry. What are you clapping about?
No, it's a little shitty job i'm doing. I don't even know people see it
It really doesn't fucking matter. You know what i'm saying?
I'm doing everything now for insurance. I enjoy my time here with you insurance is important
No, this podcast took a turn to that when you explained to me, but like I said lee
I'm not saying this to
Don't play your situation. Okay. I'm strictly honest with you
Last week I was going through that
I don't know if it was the gig at the borgata
I have big times confidence issues, you know at times
um
There's times I don't want to go to the store because I think my comedy is dog shit
You know, uh, we all have issues other other times when you feel confident, you know
Years ago, not that I had it. I had a friend
I had a family. I mean I wasn't bolder
And there were a couple brothers
And the one guy told me that his brother suffered from it
And I really liked that brother
Like that was one of my favorite brothers. He really fucking made me laugh
Like one day he told the guy that's this this bloody marry sucks
Get behind the ball. Let me teach you how to make a bloody marry
And here's a guy in a restaurant a bar in a classy hotel
And my friend's cutting up shit
Making a bloody marry and the guy's looking at him like this has never happened in my 20 year career as a bartender
And we had a great time. He drank like three of them and the guy even agreed
It's a great bloody marry. But you know, he suffered from it
And I know his brother and I
Gave me paperwork
This was way before the end of it. This is 1990 made me I was just because that's when I became friends with them
8990
and
I didn't see it. Look, I didn't really know the symptoms
I know what bipolar is when people go a little crazy from time to time right at times
I thought I have a little touch of that
I have that I have that on
I think both both sides of my family in different generations. I think that for me
Until I hear voices for real
Or Chinese people talking in my ear in the middle of the night. I won't go on the medication that's needed
I always have a pretty good grip on myself
When I was doing coke three four nights a week, you know two nights in a row three nights in a row heavy
Right. Let me tell you something. You feel alive
You feel awake
What you don't feel is in touch with life. Right. Absolutely you something doesn't feel right
It's a I'm telling you guys. It's a fucking terrible feeling
Why did it fee is again? What's the definition of insanity?
Doing the same thing over and over. Yeah, we're insane. Yeah, absolutely. So no, no, no, no, no, no
I
I sympathize with your brother
I was wondering if you uh, if you thought if your
Memory your good memory was an issue because I think it is for me. Sometimes I'll think about something someone said to me
in
Seventh grade. I'm like motherfucker
And it'll like it'll torment me all day. It's crazy. It's it's I don't I don't it doesn't make sense. It has no
Impact on my life, but like that sometimes that's the stuff that'll get me
I have issues where
I feel at times I should have done different things to different people in part of my life
There's like two or three people in particular
It's my nature. It's who I am
It's what I have expected out of myself
But for some reason sometimes I feel bad
I didn't go after these people do the hurt that they did to me
But sometimes I feel good because I had a different confidence from it
The one guy who fucked with me. It was about money and respect
My mom helped him out. My my friends helped him out
And he never turned money over to me
But what happened was when he died he gave the money to his wife
Dude, she got cancer and died. They gave it to her brother. He got cancer and died
Then they gave it to this friend of theirs to hold until hey, they decided we're never gonna get it
You don't know how good of friends that do was with my mom
And many times you went to my mom's mom's bar. I think he called me no
He waited for my stepfather's sister
To come from cuba and he gave her this money which was like a million and a half in cash
Here's the fucking crazy thing
That money was supposed to come to me
And I knew this in 1980 father
But it was eating me alive in those days. It was eating me alive. But you didn't have it
Yeah, it was like a mind fuck which i'm happy. I didn't get it
Right because it motivated to be the person who I am today
I see your point sometimes things don't go in your favor when you're 28 29
You use them in your direction. I think you need to wake up earlier
I wake up and hang out with paul for 20 minutes before she leaves
I'm always up at that point. And then I'm just not doing the right stuff. I guess
Soon as she leaves
Don't even take a shot. You have to use your just brush your teeth
drink some water
Take a bottle of water and don't come home till the water's finished
And that's it. I think that might be a good idea
Walk to Laurel
Get your mind going
Get some sun on you you come back and whatever fucking thoughts
Or whatever ill issues you have I guarantee they'll be gone
I'm not telling you to walk the fucking the mountain the Alps. I didn't say that did I?
If you walk the riverside
Maybe cross the street
Walk down the cold water and walk back
That's a nice street. Nobody sees you
The cars are very sunny street too. It's a sunny street cars are going the other direction
So if they go off the cliff
And you at least you could see him before you get ticked off there's hospitals on that street in case I pass out
Yeah, no, no, no, no, that's a nice little walk there. So all those things I think really help
Towards the beginning of whatever feelings you get
So they don't get bigger. I've always been a big
Hermit, I guess
I like you know, you've always been on it. That's I mean, that's why I do it. I guess it's
It's like it's a vicious circle. I I think I find and I've always the bed has always been a weird place for me
I spend too much time there
Listen, if I
Get up right six thirty, right?
And this is no lying. This is today. Okay, if I get up at six thirty six
And I'm gonna howl by myself and I tweet and I do what I need to do
Then I get my notebook out and I start writing and I write about my day and what needs to be done
Okay, by nine o'clock. I'm already changing my schedule in my head
By 10 o'clock 10 30 guess what I start dodging
What jujitsu?
Really? Even though you love it? Oh at nine, there are 10 o'clock. I start dodging jujitsu 10 10 30
I'm dodging it like a motherfucker. Everything hurts. I get up. My knees hurt. My back hurts
I have breathing issues
All of a sudden that bong had I took an eight now. I'm really fucking high
Oh my god, maybe I should just stay home and lift weights. All right
All the excuses
Excuse me I can come into my head
Shoot into my head. It's the weirdest thing right? Yeah, that was amazing every fucking excuse possible
I mean, I could wake up fine. I could wake up and go for a mile run
All of a sudden two hours after I wake up. I can't walk
That's how fucked up my mind is
And now I just get water. I get my protein drink
I go to the back. I put on my shorts. I put on my geek pants and I go and I go fucking if I'm sore
I'll give it a shot like today. I was sore as fuck from that plane ride
Remember it was five in with a fucking hour drive
And then on the way back it was one in with a six hour plane ride back in Philly
They ain't fucking around jack. That's a lot of pain this morning. I was walking around a little fucked up
But I finally said fuck it. I got a little lunch time worst case scenario. I'll put some blood in my back
Right, that's the worst case fucking scenario. Absolutely. So
I'm I'm finally starting I didn't I had a weird issue where I
I drank too many coca-coles by mistake. I don't drink like alcohol that often
I kind of drink coke and whiskeys and they were lighter than I thought
But I'm starting to
Like if I if I self medicate with food
I'm getting to an age now where people die now
There's 29 year olds that die from being from eating too much and being too fat. So I it's not it's not as a
Carefree anymore. You can't so that's why it's why I think I think that might be why it's on my mind
You know the buffet. Yeah, they tell me about your menu at the buffet. You were mean at the buffet
I was I was out of the buffet was delicious
No, no, I had a beef rib with delicious just one beef. Yeah, because they're they're big
I did have a crepe which is delicious flavor cinnamon and nutella delicious
I had uh some dumplings
You know, I have to get dumplings. How many do you love like four? Maybe six. No, I had four to ask paula
I had uh
What else did I have?
I didn't have I had um
What else was there? It was a good buffet. I didn't get the sushi. I missed I miss it
I was I this is you
Yeah, I don't I don't eat crab legs
um
What do you for dessert? I mean the crepe the crepe the crepe was I'm forget. I'm forgetting what what else I got
It's on the coconut cream pie. I don't like that
You missed on the regular vanilla fucking cake with the white frosting on the chocolate frosting
Right, you passed all up for a crepe. Yeah, well the crepe was great. Oh, and then we saw love, which is really good
What's love the Beatles?
Uh show how long is that 90 minutes? Did you enjoy yourself? It was great
And then Saturday morning. What'd you do? Uh Saturday morning
We went around the casino. We've been I started playing pie gal. Oh, and there's a friend at a casino that would talk to me
And gave me a a note. It fell out. Please email me. Um
But uh, it was we played pie gal a little bit. I saw our friend Danny my nephew Danny. Um, what casino you working?
cosmopolitan
You've been there for a while. He started somewhere else and they transferred them there. It's a very fancy
It's where all the cool kids stay. It's the coolest hippest casino. It's uh
And I went there. I made all the wrong bets like all like except for the tiny avenger one
Which is and and that's what and that's what i'm seeing now is that you find the one mistake
That you think you can can bet on and then just put it all on that if I'd put it all on that
I would have made the same amount of money that I would have made if I had won all my other bets
So I should have just done that
You should don't lie things cocksucker. So
Pie gal is fun. Pie gal is great. You had a good time with your wife. That's all that matter. Great time
Larry's guy, what are you staying a hotel at a casino? I don't know. He uh, because I went with his wife
Casino was weird. I want to I want to put them on blast, but uh, put them on fucking blast
They cancelled the u of c for a uh, like a beach boys reunion band or tribute band
So that was a weird choice, but
well, uh
I'm happy
That you spoke about your little
Thank you for what let me do it things on the podcast
I hope that uh, you group on
A psychotherapist in the area just to talk to her maybe two or three times
Yeah, no, I think I will you decide maybe cut a rate with her. Maybe she has a sliding scale
According to your salary
I mean all of these things help man, you know, uh
It's worth a shot. Like I said, I've always been a fucking macho sack of shit
You know and I'll talk to people like I listen
that lady
that I went to for this uh
Hypnotism I spoke to her a few times about a couple sense of issues and dr. Amy when I go there for
Uh
acupuncture
She first thing she asked me it's what's
going on
So we talk for 10 minutes
Are you sleeping? Are you eating? Are you stressed out?
Are you and your wife getting along? How's your sex life?
Ba ba ba ba ba
You know, they Dr. Amy asked me all that shit. I trust her now
Yeah, you put the relation that's mine. That's my biggest fear with uh
With doing this uh therapy and not not only because of the price but
that I it would
I wish I knew I wish I knew a therapist
Almost well, you're gonna get hit
By 20,000 therapists now
People saying they could and I'm sure they can do ask actually do you think maybe if I went to a group
Like the person who ran the group would be a therapist
Yeah, that's what they do
So maybe then I could go to the groups that might be cheaper fine
Which one I like and then go to them individually
Whatever, you know, listen, you have a fear
They're not really you don't have a fear speaking in public. I had I had one before this
In fact, you're very good at it
You gotta copy your fears in this life, man
All this shit you're scared of if there's 10 skit things you're scared of and you conquer six of those things
You know what man? We did okay
We did okay. Go talk to somebody
You know, uh
You go to this gym a year and a half
You haven't spoken to a trainer over there
You haven't been open with nobody over there. No, I'm sure they all have nutrition tips
And maybe they'll work you out. I know they charge like a motherfucker
But you know what there's somebody over there that you can say listen
No, I want a group on and there's so many of them when you group on
Yeah, one has tons of shit out there for burbank
No hoes Sherman oaks
Tons of shit
Especially crossfit which you don't need in your life. They're just gonna fuck up your knees about boot camps
I don't know. I don't know how they work
Are you really gonna go to the boot camp? I gave you that thing
Yeah, that thing is very interesting about the ymca on Tuesdays from 4 to 6 start norgas 15
They do cardio vascular health if you can't commit to that way
You can't commit to shit. I could do that. That's eight weeks
From 4 to 6 nothing can interfere unless somebody in your family getting stabbed
You get there at 3 30 you stretch out. I think it's an hour workout an hour of education
If I I have to take the baby to swim at 455
If not, I'd fucking do it with you. Do you have to be a member? You have to sign up
Okay, go talk to them. I'll talk to them because they because I'll see as soon as they see you Lee and you tell
Tell them whatever the fuck you want. Listen, right? I suck dick to make a living
But I swallow the sperm with cupcakes
You know I'm saying I'm gaining weight. I can't stop gaining weight. I want to know about guidance. I saw this brochure
And they did it before and I guess I was successful with it and look who's sponsoring the event
So that the and they take your blood pressure, right? They take blood from you in the beginning
And then at the end
They do it again and they show you the progress you've made. I'll definitely look into it because I'm worried about my heart. So
that's it
I'll definitely look into it. Listen little steps
become back steps brother
Once a week from 4 to 6
That is shit. Right. You should show up once a week
Eventually one day you know what I show up treat and what you are you go into the gym, right? I go to the gym
Yeah, but I'm sorry about the bottle
Do you think maybe I was wondering because I had a I don't know six seven months of the most working I've ever done in my life
and that ended
and I and I and the kind of
It kind of went through a period there after that
So maybe I gained weight and so maybe uh
I should just draw in a class and get over with like it get over my fear
You bring yourself out with the elliptical that time and you didn't want to try anything else. It's not the same
It's not the same
Anyway, listen man. July was a fucking interesting month
And I'm happy a lot of people want a vacation and whatnot, but listen. We had a great month as always. Thank you
as
From the bottom of my fat little heart man me and lee. Thank you for listening
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That's why I had warrants to be honest with you. You don't need that aggravation in your life
You always want to be refreshed. You want your helmet to be clean?
Females, you know, I love you. You always need that monkey to get a little water
Isn't that wrong with that monkey getting a little water spit at and that's exactly what I'm gonna promote to you and tell you right now
With hello tushy.com. You're sitting there going joey. You're speaking about cleaning monkeys and my asshole
What are you talking about? I'm talking about a portable
bidet
That fits right in your toilet and it's easy to install. How easy is it link?
Less than 15 minutes. Boom tip top. You could bring it on the road if you really want to that that's how that listen
By the time you get one it's portable
You are gonna bring it on the road
Because you don't know what life is about
To you sitting that little thing and that little thing spits water in your little muffler
And you're sitting there in a fucking trance
Like a fool, but you're you're a finger banger 14 year old girl when you were in high school
That their eyes rolled back in their head and shit
That's what happens to you when cold water hits your little fucking muffler
And you're sitting and then you move back and you swivel a nut sack of death
And ladies, can you imagine a little cold water at lunchtime?
A little cold water at six a little cold water at eight. I ain't gonna hurt nobody. You know what I'm saying?
A quick wipe to get that little yellow stuff out and that's it. Bing bang boom
You're back in the race. You know what I'm saying?
Go to hello tushy.com slash joy right now church slash church. I'm sorry
Hello tushy slash church right now. You're going joy. What are you talking about?
I'm talking about a portable bidet that's going to change your life. I'm talking about a device that's going to help you
Not get hemorrhoids. It's going to help you have not get infections
It's going to help you not get the most important thing that you can get which is called swamp ass
Do you want to walk around with swamp ass or you want your asshole to be refreshed at all times refreshed refreshed?
Not only that if something happens to hello tushy
I got a 90 day guarantee and I'll tell you what if lee's been using his for how long now
It feels like six seven months if lee hasn't busted that thing and I haven't busted mine
You you're sitting there with a nice skinny asshole
But you know what a stinky ass holes in your jeans. You're a skinny guy. You eat healthy
But you know what? I don't know. Maybe you're from a different country and your jeans are different and every time you open up
Your asshole, it's like fucking tear gas. It's your lucky day
Go to hello tushy slash church right now and get 10 off on your portable bidet
I guarantee you I guarantee you you're gonna hit me on twitter and go joey
You're a fucking genius. You changed my life. You're a swami from salami
I can't believe that you have that type of fucking knowledge. I'm telling you
But they will change your life. Hello tushy slash church is here to stay bitch and you want to get in on this
I miss it. I missed it all the time when I was in vegas 107
I missed it. I miss it when I went to a linear city. You have to go in the shower and bend over
I think the same fucking thing. It's like going back to a vcr after that flicks
You got to bend down like you're praying at a synagogue or whatever the fuck with people with no shoes on and shit. Anyway
Go to hello tushy slash church right now and get 10 off and don't forget
You're short on money. You want to make a little extra bacala?
Go to lipp.com slash joey
That's lipp.com slash joey and get $500 signing bone new driver bonus. All right a limited time only
Terms apply. Thank you for a great month in july. We'll see you motherfuckers wednesday
Ready to rock around the clock. All right, like I said the ice house
Saturday august 5th 7 30
You still get out in the pasadena or whatever the hell you're going and then uh august 10th
The punch line in san francisco. Have a great day. Stay black bitches
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I will speak no more of my feelings
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Feelings are small
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Feelings are small
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I will drop
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