Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #511 - Rudy Sarzo
Episode Date: August 28, 2017Rudy Sarzo, Legendary Bass Player who has played with, among others, The Guess Who, DIO, and Quiet Riot, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Bl...ue Apron: Go to blueapron.com/JOEY to get your first three meals free and free shipping!  Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.  Recorded live on 08/25/2017.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
The church of what's happening now is brought to you by Blue Apron
Blue Apron is the number one fresh ingredient and recipe delivery service in the country. Period!
Blue Apron's mission is to make incredible home cooking
accessible to everybody. Do me a favor check out this week's menu and get your first three meals for free
with free shipping by going to blueapron.com
Slash Joey again, that's blueapron.com slash Joey
You'll love how it feels taste and you'll be happy to create incredible home cooked meals with Blue Apron
So don't wait. That's blueapron.com slash Joey also brought to you by honor calm
Alpha brain 24, but it was not even 24 hundred hundred percent money back guarantee
Go to honor.com slash church boom and press Joey and get your little alpha brain today
Just out on a dot-com slash church on a dot-com slash church. Let's get this motherfuckin started
Oh shit Monday the 28th of August Labor Day next week cock suckers. Here you go
Me
Mama, let me be all you dirty freaks out there
The church of what's happening now
Rudy Sarzo
Oh
Shit uncle Joey coming at you on a Monday morning nothing but assholes and elbows
What up you filthy fucking animals really Sarzo here, Lisa. Yeah, what's up?
You know, bro, putting the pieces together
Day don't stop
Top everything I gotta raise a four-year-old at my age Jesus fucking Christ. How are you?
Bless as a matter of fact or you were just playing American woman
I just became the the permanent new bass player in the band. They guess who
Yeah, I've been touring a lot and just having a having a blast when you first went on it was just a temporary bass
Well, the what happened was that the the original bass player that you hear on that song
Jim Kale had not retired
Fully, you know, he had not made the decision yet. So he finally decided to retire at least for a while, you know and
So he passed me a torch say okay, and how many weekends are you doing a month with them?
We do about at least three weekends a month. Yeah, so it's like, you know, so it's just Friday and Saturday
No, no, no, no, I mean we do about ten shows a month
Yeah, do you ever get bored playing music or you're like, I wish I didn't have to play music this week
You must have been you must have been doing for what 40 years something 50 like it. It's crazy. It's like eating
Breathing having sex, you know, you never get bored of that, you know, you know, I always thought
I'll do calmly till I'm 50
And then you're just too fucking old
Fucking old who wants to listen to some white hair crack fucking stupid jokes and here I am
54 and I always said I miss I mean what next year is gonna be the last year
Then Ron White comes on he's 60 he goes on the road every fucking weekend
You know and now you see these music guys that are all coming back
They're no fucking spring chickens and they're fucking banging it out. So you're like, I don't know what to do. I live in hell
You know, you you decide not to go on the road. I couldn't see my life without going on the road
I think my head would blow up being here all the time
It's been too long that I've been taking these little
comedy vacations
That's why it's even hard for me like I
I don't want to sound in grateful when I have these home weekends. They've bothered a fuck out of me
Because I still have my life around these comedy shows when I'm on the road
It's just about comedy for 24 hours. Yeah, I don't I'm laying in the whole tub room and I'm just worried about fucking comedy
It's like if you had to do the
Pomona grounds and then Sam Bernardino you're fucking home
So you still got to walk your dog. You still got to go to the supermarket
You still got to fucking take a shit that when you're on the road, you're on the fucking road jack
You roll a joint you watch gangland. You know what I mean? You take a nap
And I get that you had like you do it for your family
But that's why I don't like when you have a weekend like this weekend when you're in Ontario
It's like
I I like I almost expect you
To stay near because it's like an hour drive hour and a half each way. No, it's a long drive
I can't fall asleep knowing that I'm an hour and a half away
I used to do it all the time try set up the sleep apnea machine lay down at 2 o'clock go one of my fucking crazy
I'd rather spend the day with my wife even if we just go to the farmers market
In no home get a watermelon juice. I'm one of those Filipino chicken sticks
But really somebody's cat somebody's pigeon that's missing some magician is missing a white dub somewhere
And these guys are selling those little fucking sticks on the corner
I'd rather do that than sit in a hotel room all day
When I'm an hour and away from my family, that's me
But when I'm when I gotta get on the plane I go into a different mode
And I know you said something to me early on that
I did it because of you now I always like saying like a little prayer to myself as I'm walking on the door
God bring me back
In the same shape. I walked out this fucking door on sunday and that's it
Yeah
I know I know I know exactly what you're talking about because to me every time I go out that door
It's about the trip coming back home. Yeah, that's it
You know and make sure that I come back home, you know with an envelope
You did a good show. You had a good time like everything
My whole problem with the road like let's say this time
I I came back on the 12th of august
And I'm not going out to the 15th of september. I'm gonna work
I still got tons of work
But I don't have to get on the plane
That week before I got on the plane
I'm fucking miserable
I gotta get on this fucking plane the whole week
I'm gonna quit doing comedy after this weekend fucking done
This sucks ass
As soon as uber as soon as lyft picks me up
At my house in the morning that little lyft guy
It all goes out the window
I got a little anxiety when you hit the 405, but after that you're like, I'm going to work. Who's better than me?
I got a job
I'm fucking doing stand-up. It doesn't matter
Like nothing matters. What what else would I be doing painting a house?
I'm gonna fucking perform 20 years ago. This was a dream
I would sit in my room and I cry and writing all the cities I was gonna play at when I got good
I got me and now I'm fucking doing it. What am I upset about not getting into a great mood
I eat a couple stars. I get on the plane. I start mingling
I put my iPod in I put in fucking diary of a madman and two hours in flight
You can't wait to land to go do fucking comedy, you know
You miss your family. You miss your loved ones
But you go, what the fuck was I gonna do at home sit there on once tv and talk about
It's gonna be hot next week
It's gonna be on a night next week. No shit. We gotta do this get the fuck out of here
I admire you Rudy. You're still out there, but that's what we're talking about earlier about
Uh
The doctor we told you about that he he told us that most of the people he had was musicians at that age
That's why you look great. I asked you if you lift the weights. You said you don't like to strain yourself
The bass player is the heaviest thing you want to pick up. No, no, I do lift some weights, but I you know, it's nothing
you know over
Yeah, you don't go with that. I'll be your Arnold Schwarzenegger
Yeah, yeah, I'm not trying to hulk out because what happens is I I travel
So when I travel what I do I do yoga but extreme yoga in my room
Just to you know, get my blood, you know pumping and you know getting ready for the show because you just don't want to go
There and kind of like be you know, half asleep, you know, when you hit the stage you want to be pumped up
You know, so I think along the road your guys the best thing for me to do that
I usually hit the fucking gym and do the elliptical and
Lift a little couple weights and do push-ups and setups just for the same reason
Like today I wanted to go to jiu-jitsu, but I knew
That I have the long drive
This afternoon so you get all tight
So when you leave jiu-jitsu and you sit down, I can't recover from that. My knees start to hurt
Like when I fly I got to take an aisle seat
But on the right side of the plane so I could stretch out my left knee
If not my knee gets fucking stiff, you know, like there's all these little ailments that you have
And all these things that you learn as you go along and you know, wait a second if I go work out for two
I like yesterday I had to work at night. So and I had a long drive. So what I did was I just boxed
I hit the bag a little bit. I didn't do nothing that had my legs involved
I did all the heavy steel bad stuff. I did some curls a lot of push-ups a lot of setups
A lot of crunches all that shit
But no squats no kettlebells
No, nothing that involved bending that much speaking of fights. What do you think about the upcoming fight?
What?
Oh by the time they fucking hear this. Yeah, they'll know so I know I know but yeah
What do I think what do I think is going to happen this weekend?
or last weekend
I don't know
I really could not put a pulse on this fight. Yeah, I I can't even imagine how it it actually
You know got sanctioned to happen
Well got sanctioned because the state of california gets eight percent of every ticket sold
So they're making money even to his father. Yes. Okay. There's a lot of there's a lot of people who had problems with this fight
A lot of people the only reason why this fight is happening is because of his MMA and
Whatever, you know, they felt that he would be prepared
No that he would be prepared
But they're really scared that Mayweather could hit him hard in the head
You know Mayweather's a fucking assassin with his hands. Yeah, it's it's a narrower game
You know, uh, I felt that
What's his name
McGregor he's been working on all aspects of his game for 10 to 15 years. This guy has just
specifically worked on boxing
Now for years, there's been critics that have said that boxing and MMA boxing is two different fucking worlds
Which it actually is and but you know, listen, I'm not a boxing
Enthusiast like I was when I was a young kid. Yeah, I don't know what's going on, but
I just didn't like this fight for personal reasons
that was it
I didn't like this fight because
It kind of halted the UFC for this fight, you know, it put a lot of the young fighters and
Whatever that's it. I just have my own personal reason. I don't care people watch the fight or not
You know, I had taken the week of work before the fight was announced. So it didn't mean
Anything to me. It's like I'm gonna cancel the fucking fight if I cancel Saturday night
It's because my uh, friend's dad died last weekend and they're gonna bury his dad on Sunday
I would take a plane just to be with him and his sister if I did anything but
It didn't affect me. I don't know why at all. I didn't react to it at all
I have other things on my plane. I think well, I mean Rudy you must have as being on the road as much as you've been
Like do you even get excited for like events anymore?
Like you almost can't because you you have to miss 90% of them like Super Bowls
Whatever, I don't know exactly what you're into, but whatever that you're into you must miss 90% of it
Events such as the Super Bowl, you know any any organized sports
I I'm not really a fan anymore
Like I used to be when I was younger because back in the day when I was a kid
It was all about the sport now. It's all about the money
You know free agents and the agents getting involved and all these incredible deals that usually what happens is when
When an athlete gets paid so much money, they never come up to their expectation
You know that to me is the kiss of death, you know, you hear about, you know, this uh
This athlete that pay, you know, like the highest
Ever in their sport and all of a sudden they start sucking
I don't know if it's a psychological or a
actual
Economic, you know situation that they get themselves into because now they have all these different responsibilities to come up with, you know
so I think
that
That is bad for for the sport for sports for the game itself, you know
I I this this whole fight it doesn't make any sense to me. It's like a sprinter going against a marathon runner
You know, if this fight goes over four rounds, which I don't think is going to go
My Gregor is never gone over four rounds
Boxing, you know, this is a stamina that you build
Through through your life, you know, when you're a kid you start training for for, you know for going
10 rounds at least three minute rounds. Yeah, it's 12 so it's 12 three minute rounds. Yeah, so that's basically 36 minutes
When they fight in the UFC, it's 25 minutes, right, which he's never really done only
Uh once really maybe with Diaz
They went to five rounds and people criticized it
About his stamina or something like that. Like I said, man, you know
It's so weird how you grew up liking sports
You really enjoyed sports
You couldn't wait to tour your teams get together and for me Rudy. It was about 26
At 26 life got in the way. Yeah
Life just got in the way, brother
And it went from watching all day sunday to then whatever
But I'll never forget when I was really down and out in 84
I was forced to sit at a bar
All day because that's where the action is. You're gonna say the bar people come in. They got a hundred quailudes
They got a pound of pot. You got to be there
And I used to always ask myself on sunday even at that point in my life
How the fuck do you sit here all day?
From 10 in the morning and watch football till and in those days there wasn't no uh sunday night game yet
Sunday night games were on espm very rarely in those days
They were like four sunday night games a season
It was all all day and then you the anticipation was for monday night
And how many game wasn't it 14 games to wasn't short a shorter season? Yeah, it was 14 games. They didn't really
The 17 games is for vegas to get bigger right? Yeah, that's what the 17 games was for
You know when I was a kid gambling was big on monday night football and your gambling week ended then
Then you had tuesday and wednesday for basketball and you paid the bookie on thursday, but your week ended on monday
But there was really no action really if you didn't bet sports if you're a purist and you just bet football
There's really no action for you until friday until saturday unless you're bringing high school
Yeah, then they said fuck that they had college. Remember they used to have college on thursdays
Then they said fuck that we're putting pros on
Fuck college
So they would alternate like college and pro so you could actually see the pattern develop
They did friday thursday they started with you the book making
Saturday you got all day in college with the last game being hawaii at four in the morning
That's what the coke had gamblers bet hawaii
Because they'll be up all night anyway snorting coke watching hawaii
Everybody knows that when you call a gambler on a saturday night that does coke ask him what he's doing
I'm watching hawaii
They're my salvation because
Everybody there's always this the gambling the gambling mind believes
That people who go play football in hawaii don't go to hawaii and play football
If they go to hawaii they get caught up in the beauty and hawaii beats the fuck out of them hawaii has the worst team
I know i was gonna say
So you you sit there and you bet hawaii like you actually bet hawaii getting 38 points at home
And you'll sit there going they better not lose by more than 35 you know what i'm saying like that was hawaii
And then sunday you wake up early and you have football. So what did they do?
They had a thursday
And they added sunday night the family night the game of the week that four o'clock seven p.m. Game
And they have a couple of them too now they'll have a couple monday night games sometimes and then they have monday night games
They learned how to get the most out of the system. I just
I love fucking everything. You know, I like watching football. I like watching baseball, you know
Now it's changed for me now. I watch football
December and january
I watch baseball in september
There's nothing more beautiful than baseball in september and october nothing more beautiful in this country
Than baseball. Have you watched a documentary about the cuban brothers?
No, you know the two that defected
Come on, which ones now duke duke. Yeah, of course. You see the documentary the 30 for 30. Yeah, come on
Come on. You gotta see that
ESPN the brothers in arms
They show the first brother come
and then he fucking
Played for the marlins and they won a world series
And then the other brother got shunned by the cuban government. They would throw eggs at his house
They would stop him and shake him down
They took him off the baseball team. He was only allowed to play in sand lots
And then he defected, you know, the boat didn't show you gotta watch this though
They were ready to take him back and that agent showed up joe cubus
and got him to
Uh, somewhere where there's no extradition treaty because jamaica or the Bahamas has an extradition treaty with cuba
He got him out of there
And then he brought old duke up to fucking the Yankees
Wow, but the whole time he had to leave his daughters in cuba
So his kids were getting tortured and shit
So finally he's pitching in the world series
He's it's games four against sandiago when they swept him
In 1990 something. I don't know exactly
They had just one
And some lady they had they had kept trying to get his daughters out
They kept trying and trying and trying to get his daughters out and the mother
They had no way to get it and they called this lady in washington
And she goes, you know what my mother my mother instincts came back to me
I felt for what they were saying. She goes. I knew one connection to castro and there was an arch of bishop
She goes I called him up
And I told him he had to get on the plane that night to cuba
And some state department guy wrote a letter
To fidel and explained the situation that old duke
They thought he was going to say no and the guy when the archbishop walked into fidel's headquarters
He was actually watching the fucking world series man
That's how fucking you know what i'm saying. Here's a kami
Watching the world series like he was into it like he was cheering for old duke
And the arch bishop gave him the letter. He looked at it
And he goes, you know what the guy's a savage
Put his daughters on a fucking plane
And they told them duke and the fucking
in
dugout in
San Diego
He got in a plane went right to tita borough in new jersey
And you could stand there and look at the plane come in. Oh my god tremendous dog brothers in exile. That's the name of it
Oh, I'll check it out. Shit. Oh, shit
And they showed the two brothers hugging and he goes you got any advice for your brother now that he's here from cuba
Stay away from mcdonald's
Fucking tremendous
Tremendous tremendous. Oh, yeah. No, I go mcdonald's
Tremendous, you know the casters try it out for the yank. Yes, you know to be a pitcher
What or the senators fidel Castro's the yank. Yeah fidel. Yeah fidel
How come all these terrible people have like nice dreams like hila wanted to be a painter fidel wants to hit
Let's try it out for the nicks
He was too short
Yeah, a lot of people don't know that
Do you want it? Yeah, you want to be a nick of baka, but red red holes one wouldn't take them as shit
It was against this religious police. And that's where you learned to hate the jews and the yankers
No, you're uh, you're an interesting dude rudy
When I was talking on the phone the other day, you were telling me you were at this fantasy camp. I had it all confused
I thought it was the camp where you guys get together with kids and they play in a band
But then you were how many of these do you do a year? Yeah, we do about eight and I've been doing them for like almost 10 years now
Um, this is the deal the the birth of rock and roll fantasy camp is from a former sports agent
David fishoff and he saw the baseball fantasy camp as a model
For the rock and roll fantasy camp, you know having everyday people
Joining your you know your sports heroes, you know playing with them, right?
So the whole thing about rock and roll fantasy camp is basically the same
But except that with sports you have guys who are retired, you know, they're older
You know in fantasy camp the sport, you know baseball fantasy camp whereas with rock and roll fantasy camp
You got people that are actually active touring musicians, you know, for example
We have one coming up in about well, september 16th
And it's judas priest and it's everybody from judas priest rob halford
You know happy birthday. Happy birthday. That's right. Happy birthday rob
And um, you know, scott travers and richie and and the uh the original bass player in hill
Everybody except glint tipton. They all come and why is glint tipton not coming?
I don't know. He's never been to the camp, you know, but there was a band, you know, it's it's fine because you know
KK dallas show no kk
He's not in the band no more richie for you know richie farkner is in the band and uh
What what they do is that we actually we go to the whiskey
Down here on the sunsets trip and we play and they play with every single camper
On stage at the whiskey or gogo
They do one one song when judas priest song with everybody
So they get to perform like, you know, if there's like 15 camp camps a camp is actually a band
They'll play 15, you know with 15 different bands
You know the band and and judas priest together and it's an amazing amazing fun experience
That's fucking crazy. Yeah, it's nuts. I mean in this, you know, judas priest is getting ready to uh to release a new record
So it's not like they're retired, you know, or how old is he today?
I think it's 66
What I saw at this morning. Yeah, Jesus Christ and gene Simmons too. He's like I think he's 68
It's his birthday too. Yeah. Yeah
It's it. Listen, I can't believe he's freely 65
And he's putting on a new album. Yeah, he's like going on the road too. Yeah, yeah
Well, you know, the guess who we have a new record coming out
It's already done finished right now. We're just going through the process of, you know, you know, putting it out with the record company and
doing
Doing the the promo pictures and everything that we're going to do next week and all that, you know, it's it's it's a process
Unbelievable did you think when you were
Playing with Ozzy that you were gonna be playing when you were fucking in your 60s, you know, I didn't even think about it
You know, I I don't even think about the last note that I'm going to play. I don't know. I don't think about it
I can't
It's now that I can't it's just that why why should I think about it's like
What do you think is going to be the last joke you ever going to say? I don't want to think about it. Yeah, exactly
Yeah, you know, you know, it's so it's you know, we're here to live not to
Sit around thinking about dying. I mean I sit here the other way before july
like in march
I was sitting there one day one night
I picked up the phone I called Dean I go Dean
Hold on one second before I say something to you. I don't want to be an asshole
I went I went online. I pressed an appetite for destruction
Because I remember the season that the the summer I got sentenced
I got sentenced in 88 and that whole summer in the afternoons that we get home at three and put on MTV
And sit there like a momo and I would sit there till sweet child of mine would come on and slash was tremendous on it
And then I go, that's right. That's 88. That's next year, but that album came out in 87
Let me check and see sure enough. Yeah fucking 30 years ago
July 20th or whatever was the release of
Appetite for destruction and here's the crazy thing
That's still on the fucking road. Oh, yeah, that that's the crazy thing when helvis released
Love me whatever in 55. You didn't see that fat fucking 85 jumping up and down on stage. He was dead jacked
These guys are fucking still alive. That's great
Not only that they're still out performing three nights a fucking week four nights a week
Did musicians always do that or like we did like my mom
When she grew up or her
Favorite like from the or not her maybe her parents from like the 20s or 30s in the 70s. Were they playing or were they not touring?
Yeah, I mean if you look at like, you know, let's say miles davis, you know, he played until day he died
Buddy rich, you know, these are guys that were not retired, you know
Sinatra was up there with a wig with a teleprompter. I saw him forgetting his words singing the song backwards
But it didn't matter. He was still five. I saw him too in 84. He was fucking brilliant
I saw him. So matter of fact, I went with sam kinnison. He was performing and he had it like a night off
You know with sam we used to play, you know, he was to bring musicians and remember he had that record deal
Wild thing wild thing. I played on that. Yeah, and I'm on the video too. So, uh, you know, we were in in los vegas
I think I think was scissors and he says hey, let's go and see uh, frank
so, you know
He's you know, he's uh his wife or girlfriend. I don't think they were married yet
Malika and sabrina and my wife rebecca me and we just went there and we sat and
And the curtain opens up and it's frank and he's just standing there. I thought wow
Is he is he dead because he's just didn't move
And then all of a sudden the orchestra goes into fly me to the moon, you know
And he opens his mouth and it's like magic man. It's just fucking. I'm fucking magic. It was like holy shit
I was 21 and I just went
I didn't like that music all and all at that age at 21. Yeah, you know, it's tough to go from judo's priest
Uh, whatever to that night. So let me just go
and it was
Just fucking marvelous when he sang my way
Your fucking guts come out your guts come out
Because he means every fucking word of it like his ego just meant every
Word of it like I can just tell that special they had on them on hbo
Did you watch that? Oh, yeah
Fucking brilliant just brilliant shit man. Those guys are from a different fucking cut, you know
You know, I I grew up playing and listening to a lot of different styles, you know
When it was in top 40 band we played anything we had to play whatever was top 40 it could be
My what not my way, but uh, you're having my baby
Paul anchor and then turn around and play smoke on the water, you know
You had to make it work because that's that's what the
The the club owner
Wanted you to play you want to play top 40 whatever's on top 40, you know
So I really learned to really appreciate what always looked for in music
Which we had a lot of that in the 60s and 70s was honesty
Honesty in the playing and the singing, you know and the music itself lyrics
You know, if you listen to any of the bird backtrack how david songs, you know, it's just man. It's just unbelievable
It's a lesson on how to write a song, you know
It's incredible. Listen to alfie. I know it sounds goofy
But if you really listen to the lyrics, it's just amazing amazing stuff. Will you be those guys? Oh, yeah, absolutely
They change your world completely from day one, you know, and and I was on a plane, you know, and you're like going around
Trying to find something interesting to watch and I came upon this
uh
Was his name run howards
Documentary on the Beatles they eight days a week and it you know in my mind
I always go back to that 13 year old kid that sold the Beatles for the first time when I was it, you know
With my with my folks and my little brother
Sitting in the living room with our tv tv dinner trays, you know watching it solving and the Beatles come on and
And it just changed my life, you know, and I thought I thought
Wow, it changed my life my life because
Chicks were screaming at them and I said I want that
I really I want that that
You know
To be noticed because I was pretty invisible when I was a kid
I was just some fat little little kid and you know back in the 60s
You know being overweight and being a kid just was bad. It was not a good thing, you know
And so I was like, you know girls didn't want to have anything to do with me
And I thought wow becoming a musician that's going to give me some sort of significance, you know
I'm a musician now. I am somebody, you know, and I'm going to have girls screaming at me and stuff. But now, you know
40 whatever 40 40 years later or 50 years later
uh
I look at the documentary and I go man
What really got me about the Beatles and I did not realize it was that they were bad ass
They were so incredible live, which I think they were
handcuffed a little bit when they went in the studio
And you really didn't get that sense maybe on the first record
Because from the first record they had just come off, you know playing in Hamburg doing like
You know 10 shows a night whatever, you know playing for hours
They would do like playing the afternoon they would come back and play at night, you know, that's all they did
And that's captured. It's raw, you know if you're listening to money
You know that was the last song that they recorded for for that session, you know money, you know
And and there's there's this it's an urgency and they're a bad ass and just like, you know
Playing through it like with everything they got, you know
And I and I watched the documentary and this documentary has different angles
But you can actually see wringo wringo was a bad ass drummer, man
He was just like lean in over his snare and just like bash away and play like
Then they have a ph system like we have today, you know, they have to be heard over the screaming girls
With no ph system no monitors nothing the harmonies were perfect
These guys have no any or monitor nothing, you know, like all these people, you know complain nowadays
Well, my any or monitor went out and I can't really sing, you know on a
Grammys or something now the people that didn't matter
They just went out there and they did it and it was just mccarney
I'm looking I'm looking at the documentary and I go, okay
When is he going to look at the neck of his bass when he's singing?
zero
He's just played away and he was playing bad ass
Stuff. I mean to me a beatle song is like a bass lesson
You know, it's just amazing and it's like perfect and it's just like orchestrating all these bass parts
It wasn't like, you know, just being you know playing bullshit up there
And the guy was so incredibly he still is incredibly musical
But you know, but to have somebody you know to have a band full of badasses
George Harrison, he was like 16 years old
It was like kicking ass on, you know playing playing lead lead guitar. It was like holy shit, you know, and of course linen, you know genius
You know all these guys and you think well, there's gonna be a whole
Country full of guys like this. Yeah, there were but I don't think anybody compare to the Beatles
The Beatles really were at the very top and then everybody will just follow him, you know people
Different bands had their, you know strings like the stones had there were more R&B
More bluesy than the Beatles were Beatles were Beatles were more pop and then they became experimental, you know with revolver and onto
to Sergeant Pepper and stuff like that and
And you know, he you had the kinks you had who?
Rock opera who the hell came up with that? That was brilliant. Nobody had ever done that. Have you ever read the book?
Pete Townsend book no, no
After and he was having to do with their managers, you know, they really talked them into
Taking music to the next level because their managers were
They were cinematographers and they saw Pete Townsend's contribution to music is more like a script or film, you know
And so they they they talked them into writing a rock opera, which was Tommy
You know and in the book, you know, Pete talks about that from that point on every single piece of music he wrote
had
A purpose a direction had a it was not just a bunch of songs thrown together
It had an arc on a story a statement everything, you know, which is
Totally different from the average band, you know going out there and making an album, you know
We used to make albums based on snapshots
You know, it's like it's a snapshot of where you're at today as a musician
Your life is this is this is what you sound like. This is what you look like
Which net later on with mtv was a company with video, you know, so those are slices of our life, you know
That's why I always looked at
Best off records a little bit more like a collection of pictures through
Through a certain period, you know, like let's say if you it's a
10-year collection of your music. It's like pictures, you know
It's a little bit disjointed but it's a representation of what your growth as a musician
That makes a lot of sense even with comics
Even when we put on CDs, yeah, yeah, I listened to
The blue album and I want to jump out a fucking window
But I could tell when I was listening to the blue album
I could hear the cocaine in my soul
Like it was fucking crazy live at
The queen of clubs whatever I could hear the cocaine in my soul
It's you or the priest
To me was the best thing I ever did. It was loose
There was no safety net
There was nothing
uh
I was very happy at that time
Like
I was just having a good time
Lee and I were just starting to hang out we're making videos
Nobody was there was no real tickets being sold
It was just us having fun and that you could feel it
The uh
Eat pussy with asthma is just god-awful
It's a reflection of what was going on at the time, which was I was overwhelmed
You can hear the overwhelm
In your voice you got too much going on
And there was nothing going on
Do you know what I'm saying?
There was too much going on
But there was nothing going on
Savage dad I grew a little bit. I could hear the growth a little bit
Still got my best work
But I could feel the happiness from having my daughter around
I just heard it on the plane a few weeks ago to tell the few ones
Beside it's either you and the priest like a listen to for longer than four minutes
I think you and the priest is like eight minutes
Savage dad is like six minutes
Eat and pussy with asthma goes off within eight seconds. I mean you could just hear the
Confusion in my voice that early. We're working with it with the record label at the time. No, no
Just me and Lee fucking around
Just you guys, you know, that's that's really amazing because uh, you know putting out
Equality recording like you were just talking about
with with
Back in the day we
We had to go through a
system
this system basically was if you
Were signed to a label you were assigned
An artist relations person which meant that the person
Picked your material. You know, he came over to your rehearsals. Okay. Let me hear what you guys got for the new record or your first record
So if you if it's your first record
It means that you've been working on songs for the last maybe two or three years
So you got like maybe 40 or 50 songs to show, you know, the uh, the artist relation guy
And then he would look at it as how many singles can we get out of these guys because that's how they make the money
The money, you know longevity and all that because back in the day record companies did not have a piece of your merchandise
And did not have a piece of your of your touring
It was all based on how many records they're gonna sell
That was it, you know, today is different
and then
If they didn't feel like they had about four possible singles
They would say, okay, uh, i'm gonna bring in an outside writer
So, you know somebody who who has already had hits with other
Bands that needed help in the songwriting and it's your first record, you know, or the a and r guy will also bring
A song it says well, listen, I got the song either a remake
You know, for example, I can choir right or it's a come on feel the noise was a remake of a slate song, you know
and
Or or something that he's working with a publisher
You know a publisher is it's an agent basically for
For songwriters independent writers
They go to a publisher and then the publisher gets together with record company
A and r guys artist relations and it says if you can find a band to cover the song, you know
We could have a hit. So record company is looking for a hit
The publishers and songwriters are looking to place that song to be a hit with a band a band is looking for a hit
Because you know, there's nothing like getting your music played on the radio. So people come to your shows
And if you got a hit then you become a headliner
Which is ultimately what you want, you know, you you're an opening band
For a certain amount of period
But if you're gonna if you if you become known as that as a perennial
Opening band you're screwed because you're never going to get to be the headliner and that's where the big bucks are
you know and
So beyond that you have promotions people, you know radio promo people going to radio stations and doing payola, whatever
Yeah, payola did exist
Then you had the guy that was then working with a video, you know the video side of your music
You know finding the right director with a storyboard to complement your music and having that person bring in a stylist
Because all of a sudden, you know, you have to have an image
You know, like this is before no image was an image. This is you have to have an image, you know, and
So not to interrupt you. So
Come on hear the noise. Yeah, you could tell by the time you got the white snake
All that shit was in place already image
All that stuff. I mean personally, right? No, no, no the band that band. Well, white snake was another band
No, no, no, no, no, I'm saying when you were there was a huge change
From quiet riot to white snake when it came to metal now they knew what direction they were going
When you guys did come on here the noise and the other one from that album
It was those were videos when you guys when you were in white snake
You could tell that everything was I even think your outfits were even handpicked for you
Like they were so perfect those videos in the skin of the night the one with a nicotine
There was like three or four videos that white snake had I think white snake
When you were in white snake or two albums
I played on on slip of the tongue slip of the tongue that one album
Was
The videos were brilliant. Yeah, the videos were it was at the right time. They had just
Really figured out how to promote before that looking breaking the law. It's a bunch of idiots going into a bank
And kk with a guitar, you know, they were like goofy videos
Come on here the noise started with the guy. Do you hear me?
You know all that guy from animal house
white snake
I mean all those videos were
Storyboard
A to z they knew how to do it
Somebody even came and picked your shoes for you with the colored socks. That's a really good observation. Actually, it's an
I can see it. I can see it. You can see what happened. Yeah
um
I got a phone call from
Jungle Adner, which was the artist's relation person for geffen
Uh, and and there's a backstory to my to my relationship with white snake
That predates me joining the band because white snake was the opening band for choir riot in 1984
You know during the condition critical tour. So I got to not only meet
I I met everybody and I and I knew jungle adner from all the things that I was doing in in los angeles
And so I got the phone call. I was playing with tommy aldrich. We were trying to do our own project and
They called us up and he says, uh, we were actually invited to play on the record
But that's we declined and that's a whole different story on the
87 record
Um a couple of years before it got finished. So going back to 1987 it was just like 30 years ago
It came out, you know, we get the phone call and colander says listen
David wants you to come in and you know be part of this video that we're doing for for, you know, for the new record
and it was
still the night
And they actually they sent over a stylist this lady came in nermis flair very, uh
top shelf stylists at the time
And uh, she came she went through my closet and she started picking stuff out
You know, and she said okay bring this to to to the video shoot and that's what you see me wear on that video shoot
By the time that that
Configuration of vivian campbelly revan the bird tommy aldrich and david coverdello myself
We became officially a band
Then flair started making outfits
For us, you know, like now
Yeah, we're we're not going through your closet anymore. So for here I go again and it's just love
They were shot back to back like one day we finished one and then we came back the next day and we did the other video
uh
The adults clothes that you saw they were actually made for us
You know, especially made for us and then we took him on the road with us
So, yeah, the record company had not only that management had a huge part trudy green our manager, you know
Uh, she would go to photo sessions with us and she was
We were like, you know posing and she like moves around and and tell the photographer uh neils lozar
Okay, this is what i'm looking for
And when you would do a photo session
The strategy was to do one that you're going to have different looks
That will carry you hopefully through a whole year of touring
So you don't have to break from touring to do a photo session because that's you know, everything is planned ahead
and
It's positive thinking it's not like uh, well, maybe this is going to happen
No, no, you're going to be successful and these people are going to make sure that you become a success
You know, there's a certain machine behind all of these
Superstars that you see a lot of smart people that make all the right moves for you
You know, that's the way that it used to be
Back in the 80s and even 90s until
You know
Downloading is illegal downloading started happening. Well, even
The peak of it. I thought was
The marketing they had done for guns and roses
Unlike vol 1 and 2 like those videos were million dollar videos. That was the peak of it. Geffen again. Geffen. Yeah
Biggie Smalls 95 96, you know with the ties with the boats and the bitches on the boats
Yeah, you know, it's a big difference from the video for
Yeah, uh, not nwa. Yeah
Yeah, look at nwa's videos. They were nothing. They were made for ten dollars. Yeah, they just told the
You know a black pool party
but look at the videos for
fucking tupac and
You're meant to there
What's his name? Uh, shrug knight shrug knight, you know, uh, when they did the set from uh, road warrior
Mad max and they were all yelling by that time those videos were a million dollars. No
All those fucking guns and roses videos were a million dollars. Yeah, you know slash by the
Expensive too. Yeah, yours are pretty expensive. I mean uh, uh, trudy, you know with hk management
She makes sure that we got the best and the best was marty calder
You know director, I mean he's he's known for all the things besides music videos
Like uh, he has no matter if he's got his own shows on hbo
You know, and he's done like, you know live shows from from my sub square garden and all of that
So he's like, you know, what probably just just about the best live director that there is so
our videos were
Phenomenal is I never even thought about it before is that what they is that what music videos are for like a marketing tool
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that's because like
Joey and I talk about it a lot. We talk about marketing and all that and
It's how a lot of people now are very uh, cheap a lot of people
Uh, like don't want to spend on marketing. They want to hire someone for free to that and spending hundreds of like tens of thousands of dollars on a video
That you're never going to see like direct money from
Like it's it's it's it must be so weird now. Yeah, and it's non-recoupable
You know, the the band actually pays for it from their royalties
And they're like if we make a badass video this album will sell. Well, all right, let's take michael jackson striller
It didn't cost no ten cents to make those two movies. Those. Yeah, but those two videos
Is why that fucking album sold? Wow
You know, what's three million when you're gonna make 35 million, right?
You know what I'm saying, what's three million when you're gonna make 35 million?
No, absolutely because it's a fucking nothing. It's part of doing business and it was all mtv
That's what you saw all mtv all mtv. Yeah, I was telling I was telling was it where you want to call me or diega?
Stay now probably. I still remember
Staying home to watch a fucking guy. I still remember going to a party on new year's eve
And everybody stopped in the midnight because they were gonna premiere a new video. Oh, yeah
Like that's how big mtv used to be
Like you a new year's eve that we're gonna premiere a video of some fucking guy named al donovo
I never heard this fucking al donovo before al donova
But why the fuck would they premiere a video somebody at midnight on new year's eve if he ain't gonna be any good
And he shows up and there's a helicopter and there's two guys with machine guns
And you hear laser beams and then al donovo jumps off the stage
And the music is men's immortal. You know, you're like wow
Wow, wow, wow
Wow, wow
And also he just comes running out of a cloud of smoke and he starts bobbing with the band and it was okay
You know personally now. He's like a he sold two or three songs like that. Oh, yeah
That's his claim of fame now. Yeah, but they would put how many advertisements that they do how many you have no idea
What they used to do I still remember fucking sending postcards into mtv to attend pat benetha's wedding in oi
You know, why the fuck?
That's what they were doing and the member one bands would come to your house and play a show at your backyard
We did one of those
Christmas
There you go freaking christmas, right? So it's like wait a minute. We just got off this
tour
and on that
Five days, which is during christmas that i'm gonna have off. I gotta go somewhere in america
To play in somebody's backyard, you know, so somehow that must have been the best concert ever
Like you might you must have been annoyed. You got like ten thousand dollars quiet, right?
Well, yeah, yeah, the people who won I got shit. It was nothing. I mean it was promotion promotion, right?
so
I'm and and then the manager calls and says hey listen. Yeah the winner is some guy in pacoyma
Wherever it was it was, you know driving distance, you know
They say oh great so I can at least spend christmas with my family and then go to this guy's backyard and
And play come on field
You know because I thought man, we're gonna be stuck somewhere and you know, so what can fargo play?
So mtv you would send the postcard into mtv if you want
You would win ten thousand dollars and a hundred of your friends would be invited to a pool party
We're quiet, right? Personal in your backyard. Holy shit food provided everything
It was like a fucking party and they came to your house and there was a couple other bands that did it
I forget who loves we did it. So so what came first mtv or the music video?
Do you remember mtv?
What was the music there were music videos?
You know like oh, no, no, no beaters made music. Yeah, no music
But a whole channel that just played music videos. I mean that was never done before
All right mtv was created september of 81
Wow, you remember that? Yeah mtv came out september of 81
You guys shot videos for blizzard of oz
Way before 81. Well, actually the video that is available on youtube from a a a access or cable access station in rochester new york
Uh
That was
Not done for mtv, but was actually done to promote the show that we played in rochester
That was the only real three camera
Shoot we did with randy because there was plans to do a
What what is known as speak of the devil from ervine?
Down, you know down the road with brack gillis. That was supposed to be randy roads playing on that
But of course, you know, he he passed away a few months before that
So the only shoot that we did with actual three cameras, you know, you could edit that
That was it. That was it. It was mr. Crowley. Yeah, mr. Crowley
I don't know
Yeah, he has like three four songs. Yeah, I saw that yeah that one, you know and
And you know randy and I I I wrote about it in my book
we
We walk in there it's it's it's a little room
It's a little bit bigger than this, you know, and there were maybe like 10 15 people watching us perform and
And it was our day off and we just took it as eh
you know
I turned around to randy and said well, thank god. Nobody's nobody's ever gonna see
How it became, you know, it's the only thing that we have, you know, we're with randy on it, you know
And we we never knew that was going to be our only uh exposure, you know to show how the brilliance of randy, you know
It's crazy how there were videos
But I had never really seen a music video
till mtv
But there used to be a show on usa
That also started about 82 if any if 81 was mtv
USA had a show called night flight. Oh, yeah on friday night flight. Yeah
And it went from nine to six in the morning. Yeah, what covered everything. Yeah art a movie a short film
sketches
But they would cover a band like the 10 o'clock segment was a band
And they would play videos that you go with a second. That's 1976. You know when they just did the 70s on
CNN
They had great videos what
Then that really music videos there were uh scenes from a concert like heart which crazy on you or shit like that
We had uh midnight special
Yeah, that's right midnight special night special. We had in concert duncursion or in concert
Those were brilliant brilliant
Now did you ever go on there with ozzy? Uh, no by then midnight special was was gone and in concert too
We did what is
the first
mtv special
Produced for mtv which is speak of the devil with us performing live at urbine
that
That was uh, that was actually premiered halloween 1982
What did you guys do with the ritz?
Oh, that's another speaker the devil
That's the rerecordings of black sabbath
Live at the ritz which again brad gills. Tommy elders and and and ozzy and myself
That was it gets confusing. It gets really confusing. Yes, two things the same thing
That's what i'm saying. What the fuck is he talking about?
I had speaking of the devil for the fucking the ritz in new york city
It's amazing the memory you guys have like i like
I don't know how you remember shows the name of the the makeup artist or the whatever it was the the
Stylist your memory is brilliant that makeup artist and all that shit is because i because i i i really
I
shareish the blessings of every single step of my career is that why that's the same way i look at it
Sometimes like you forget you remember those people for being there. Absolutely. Absolutely, but i remember you
Like ozzy there was two out. Let me listen
And i'm writing about this now and i'm thinking of putting this in
to this book like
the music
Like the chapter's name and then the songs or music i was listening to. Yeah
that
Is that 80
81
It was just fucking
that ozzy out
And pink Floyd the wall pink Floyd the wall came out november 79
Right something like that the tour started in february in new york
And those were three months that i wanted to shoot myself
Like i wanted to kill myself
Like i was waiting for a train to hit me
But i said
I gotta wait for pink floyd
Like i can't kill myself before pink floyd don't make no sense
I pay 1550 i can't die before pink floyd. That's a lot of money back then. Yeah
My mother had died november 8th
The ticket the pink floyd album came out like the 23rd or something
And that kept me alive to february
And then on february i read an article that ozzy was done and
I'm a pot he was creating new out and then all of a sudden i went
And went to bleaker bobs in the city and i saw the four song e p
And that was more hope for me
And you know listen every time i'm in that car and i hear
Nobody ever told you told me i found out for myself. You gotta believe in foolish miracles
It's not how you play the game. It's if you win or lose you can't choose
That's it. That kept me alive another five years like that kept me alive
That album kept me alive
And then you know the diary of a madman put me over the top but at that time
He was biting animals and we started i was telling these guys i went to a party once
And my friends had a table and a hammer and they were breaking glass
And for you to come into the party had to eat a piece of glass like when ozzy started eating animals
It set my town on fire
One halloween we went dressed to the thing as a as garbage
And we all took strings and tied live mice around their tails
We walked into the party with live mice hanging off the garbage
And then we started pulling up the mice everybody across the country was eating fucking animals
Everybody you go to like everybody was eating the rats head
More people after ozzy bit that fucking pigeons head off more people got sick
He created a fucking it was then the guy went on david led him and said because ozzy ate a bicycle
No, come on. I remember you said
I took up a year to eat a bicycle
We I was uh, we were playing love at texas and this is after ozzy pissed on the alamo
Right, you know, so we were we were getting death threats, you know the uh, whatever
militia
What's in texas militia was gonna you know shoot ozzy on stage and we were like staying away from him or we
Come over to us and run away from him, you know
And and I and I'm like doing my you know my things
From you know, swinging from one side to the other and I hear this on stage. I feel it
It just hit the stage
And it looked down
And I thought somebody had thrown a baby on stage. It was actually a bullfrog
They have those suckers are huge and down in texas man. They're like baby size, right? Oh, no
and
People were like bring dead animals to our show and and security would like stop with them
Then they would take polaroids and bring a backstage and say check out this
Head of a cow
Like somebody just went to slaughterhouse grab a head of a cow
And bro, you know was trying to bring it on the show so they could throw it on stage, you know
So ozzy could bite it. I was there when ozzy bit the bat, you know, and
Again, I'm doing my thing and I and I look on the ground and there's this
thing crumpled up thing and I
I
I motion to ozzy. Hey, you know, check this out, right? So I keep playing
And we do our set
So I did not see him doing the whole thing because I was you know headbanging, you know
I we're getting off the stage, you know, we just finished the show and there's an ambulance
Ready and they put him in the ambulance and they take him to the hospital
And I go what the hell is going on? He said well ozzy bit this bat and he thought it was rubber
And he just bit into it and then realized that it was the real thing and
And threw it on into the pit, you know where the audience is
They couldn't find it, you know in order to test it for rabies. So they gave ozzy rabie shots
And the the tour manager comes in the bus because, you know, we parked the bus right outside the hospital waiting for him to get, you know
to get checked out
The tour manager goes there come can I borrow your camera and say yeah, go ahead take it
Yeah, so it takes pictures of ozzy and the nurse, you know, hamming it up
You know game the rabie shot on his leg on his thigh, you know, this big nurse, you know in Des Moines, Iowa
and
So, you know, he comes in with that with this little box and he puts it in the fridge and I go
What's in that and he goes oh, it's it's it's monkey serum
I gotta I I gotta take this every every day. So he starts, you know getting injections on the road
monkey serum injections for his rabies
Yeah
What is wrong with people like like was there a bat flying around in the how did the bat end up in the morning?
I said buddy grab a bat and throw it on stage
You know, listen back in the in the dive of madman tour. We had a little person
a little john
Adore you know little person and dressed like a monk
On stage that he would be like the guy who brings ozzy a towel or
Or or or you know a drink or something during in the middle of the show
And he was actually an actor this guy had been on blade runner and a bunch of bunch of movies, you know and
And and ozzy used to like torture him and we used to hang him
Well, the crew did the during our ballad goodbye to romance. He would be like hanging, you know from a noose
Behind the drums, you know, so at the end a monk
A monk, you know with a robot and stuff, you know, and he
he used to drag a bucket of
of like
Buddy parts, you know, like uh gizzards and intestines or whatever whatever
The runner for the promoter will go to
the grocery store and buy
Just gizzards and chicken livers and whatever and throwing that bucket
And and and tripe tripe tripe was always the best to throw because it was like
Like like a lasso, you know, you could it had distance if you threw that
And a lot of the times it was not it would not defrost by the time, you know, that the the show ended, you know
So he was throwing out there like frozen pieces of liver and and gizzards and whatever, you know
One day and what happens is
Okay, he would start throwing it throwing the meat out into the audience during paranoid, which was the last song
So here, you know, we're like rocking out and there's this dwarf
You know marching across the stage slowly throwing throwing
you know
Inwards, you know animal parts into the audience and the audience is ducking, you know the first 20 rows everybody was like duck, you know
But what goes into the audience comes right back at on stage
So you spend the second half of the song
ducking
Body parts again, because you know liver and shit that was coming at you as you're playing, you know
And one time I got hit I got hit during a bow because you know, you went when you take a bow with a band
You know, you can you guard your arms around, you know, the other guys and
Everybody goes down at the same time and everybody comes up at the same time
I see this piece of liver coming at me
I guess I'm coming up and go oh shit
Bam got hit right on the forehead. These are your fans
Like why I don't understand. They're crazy. They just got caught in the moment
Did you ever go to one of these concerts with the meat Joey? No, I never I the last
Ozzy concert I probably went to
was October
Of 82 at the metal lands
With Brad Gillis, whatever his fucking name was that was it. That was yeah, they had the castle already. Yeah
82 yeah, that was it
I had gone to the shows at the Palladium and 81 with you guys
That was with Randy. Were you there first or second show? I think I was there on Friday night
Oh, no me. There were two shows in one night. Yeah, I think I don't know what the
Yearly or the other like one. Yeah. Yeah, but it was just so weird. That was it for me. Like that was it. And I don't remember
Any fucking animals or anything fucking clocking me in the head alive on other people crazy. Listen man, there's a clip
There's a clip from Don Kershner's
Rock concert killing yourself to live
You know, and I always look at that clip and there's three guys in that concert
That that was me and my lunatic buddies. We used to make our own shirts
We had a buddy of mine Mike Askelis who worked at Levy's
sporting goods in west New York
So before every concert he'd give you a shirt
I remember for Suicide Solution. We wore Suicide Solution with a joint in between Suicide Solution
But it was really a line of coke
But people would ask us what it was and we'd say it was a lot of fucking coke. What does it say Lee? You find that?
Yeah, I just I have the guys up if you look at these fucking lunatics
This was this was an Aussie concert. This was a a black Sabbath concert which he carried over
Oh, yeah, look at those three morons. You see those three morons
That's me and my buddies with the homemade t-shirts
Aussie Tony Giza
Black Sabbath has returned started right from there. What but push it up a little closer like uh move it up a little earlier
Like a little more more more more right there. Watch them. Watch this. Do you want to hear it? Look at fucking IOMI Rudy
Look at him, bro. He was
We'll wait till you see these three morons. That was Joey Diaz and his friends
Look at them. Look at these three morons. But wait, they even go even crazier. Watch this
Watch this watch these three morons
Ready, this is Joe Diaz. Look at them. Look at them. Look at them. They almost killed themselves
Look at these three guys. They're going fucking apeshit. That's what you had Lee people just going fucking nuts, man
Listen to that shit at home people
This is 40 some years ago
40
Something look at them. Look at them. Look at them. And one of them is black. He can't fucking believe it
He's like, I'm not going back home. I'm done. I'm hanging out with white people. You know, look at them
Watch this one. Watch this one. Have a look at them. You know a pilot they're losing their fucking minds
Yeah
They still haven't had enough look at these two guys as Joey Diaz they haven't stopped
Look at them. Are you kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me?
Yeah
I
Look at these three guys Rudy tremendous
None of these three guys gave a fuck look at them. You think they gave a fuck about trump or hillary?
Look at them. Look at them. Look at them. He don't give a fuck
He's a butler. He don't give a fuck right there
I
You think the war gives a fuck
Look at this savage
God damn
Then they came back
Would never say die and I don't think it was that good. I'm not curse is right. That's it
I think I gotta tell you it's guys like you were talking about
That makes us musicians
You know going through
No, it's not it's not about
What we do on stage is all the bullshit that we have to get go through as you know
For you to get on stage all the bullshit you gotta go through to for those
One hour our you know 75 minutes. So you're there
It's that audience that's going apeshit that makes everything worthwhile. Oh my god, you know, I mean lose my mind
I'll lose my mind. You're you're an entertainer. You know what it's like when the audience is going bad shit, you know
You feed right into it. Yeah, exactly. It's like this weird. Yeah, it's it's it's I can't stop now
Yeah, exactly. I can't stop now exactly. That's what they were doing right there. They're like, you know what? Yeah
We're gonna take these motherfuckers to the health. They're gonna leave you going
And another thing that I took from watching that video again
It's being in in the tour bus without having a conversation
Because you know back in the day, there's no
There's no social social media
It's not it's not like a bunch of guys sitting around with their iPads or iPhones, you know going on twitter. No, it wasn't like
You you're you're stuck in a tour bus smelling each other's parts
And you got you know, you have to socialize
You know, what else are you gonna do? It's nothing, you know, we had like like in television
In video games the stick man running across a
A tv tv screen, you know, it was we had VHS cassettes
We had nothing
So you do is you sit around you talk and drink, you know, if you're into drinking whatever
So I'm here with Ozzy and we go hey Ozzy
Are you ever beatles fan?
And it goes you man beatles to change my life, you know the beatles
And then he goes
Yesterday
Love was such an easy game to play and it just sounded so evil
The way that he's saying he could sing happy birthday. He would like join in happy birthday to you
And he's like holy shit, you know
The the clouds are come rolling in it gets dark
In the room
It could be the happiest song
But he puts the hand the doom on he puts a cabaschon and shit
Yeah, he could he could fuck up that jewish song
Whatever they won't even want to jump up and down the jews they're like what the fuck happened
Here take the envelope back. I'm in no mood for this aggravation. Let me give some let me give some shout outs real quick here
I'm in no mood. Yeah
Carlton Shackleford you bad motherfucker
Ryan Donnelly
Latisha Caighton Nick
Minano Derek Winslow Jordan Caidor
Old bar muscle. You're a good man
Savva Wilkinson and my man
pretzel worst
You know, I love all you cock suckers. Guess what?
I got no dates. So
I'm off for a couple weeks
September 16th. I'm in Oklahoma
at the casino
And then the end of the month the charity casino, I think right? I think it's called and at the end of the month
I'm at the pittsburgh improv and uh the end of september that's it. I got a slow month this month
I'm not in the fucking mood. You know what I'm saying? I'm writing them. I'm taking care of shit rudy
What do you got going on? I said gotta go shout out to my godson. He's one of your
Yes, yes. Oh, Vinny Vinny fiado Vinny fiado. I love you papa
Where are you in miami in miami? Tell him I'll be in doro down there. Yeah, next year. Oh, that's that's close
Yeah, yeah, I'll be down there next year. Yeah, there was uh when when when are you gonna be there?
They're gonna open up a club and they just called the other they said you interested in an opening it
I'm trying to find the 600 seat theater in miami
That's what I'm trying to find a hundred seat theater
I could go down there and do two shows on a friday and get it over and start building this fucking cuban thing
I want to start building it down there. Yeah, I want to start going down there and working on like there's a place called magic city casino
Yeah, I know right there and you may look at my balls
They keep breaking my balls about that casino. So
Let's see what the hell happens. They found one and four a lot of them, but I don't want to play that's too far
That's too far from what I want to do. So it's just been a nightmare lately
But there was something that I really wanted downtown miami. That would be a good that would be even like that jackie gleason theater
Oh, yeah, I just don't know what it seats
Oh, it's big
It's big. Yeah for the last two years. We've been losing a lot of musicians
Like just a handful from greg wallman to the fucking prince
But this year we lost two of them to the same fucking thing, you know
And I remember when you and I first met we were here and this I think we're in the other office
And we were talking about uh, how
With musicians comedians
There's a thin line with mental illness, you know
You know, li and I had a we had a double day podcast in here about depression, you know, li was feeling a little down
Did you go talk to your people today? Uh, not today. I'm going next week next week. So you didn't go this week
Not this week you fucked up already
so, uh
You know, we're just talking about things, you know, I feel shit different times in my world, you know
I get feelings in my head that
Are not evil nothing, but I'm just not feeling what I should be feeling
You know what I'm saying? Like you're fine yourself and you're like, why am I feeling like this?
I have no reason in the world to feel like this
What do I feel this way? But this year
We've had two musicians, you know, chris cornell. We hear every fucking day on the radio to rub salt in your wounds
You know, I feel like writing a letter for the radio stations and gonna stop playing them for a year
Please a year because I can't even get over it. You know
I like the other band, you know, but it's not about whether you like the band and that the kid still took his life
What a fucking shame
from lincoln park
I mean, what the fuck what what?
You know, now you're hearing all these stories. They were part of a child pornography ring and they went in and hung both of them
You know, these fucking people don't stop with the conspiracy theories
You know, they found no obvious harrowing and chris, you know, they found whatever
Pills he had in the system, you know
I mean, what do you have a take on this? Do you feel anything?
Well, the uh, the theory behind the child pornography ring was that they were about to
Uncover they were about to say who was involved. They were not involved in it. No, they were completely against against that
you know
I got knocked over some Lazarus, which is like
I gotta go to church and
You gotta kill a chicken
You gotta kill a chicken when you fuck with that Lazarus
So, uh, yeah, it's it's you know, I've I've I've worked with people that I'm not gonna name of course. It's you know
Who we've had some mental issues, you know
um
it's it's
Unfortunately and I think it's not just music. It's it's entertainment industry or even even in sports
You know, if you're a big moneymaker
If you if you as an artist or an athlete generate a bunch of cash for a bunch of people
They're gonna keep feeding you and keep you out there for as long as possible
You know, and you basically
Become disposable to them, you know, because you're gone
Sometimes you even generate more more money for them after you're gone. Look at Elvis. Look at Michael Jackson. You know, you know
all of these, you know, and it's very unfortunate because
It's you know, I I I can't judge
Anybody because it's their journey
We each have our own journey and I'm not here on this earth to judge people
You know
Uh, it's very sad that it happens and I just hope that it stops
Very soon if people are able to uh to offer help
But you know, sometimes when you're so if you're on the road
Man, that could be the loneliest place ever. You're in your room all by yourself. Sheds are coming through your head
It can be very dark
Very very dark even in the bunk of a tour bus, man
You know, you're going to traveling and the shit going on through through your head, you know
Especially if you happen to have mental illness, you know
So weird how years ago I would go on the road
And it wasn't about the comedy Rudy. It was about the cocaine
You know, it wasn't about pussy. It wasn't about seeing friends. It wasn't about the food in houston
It wasn't about the chinese food in florida
It was all about the drugs like I'm gonna go down there for two weeks
I'm gonna make 1,300 bucks and I'm gonna come home with 200. I'm gonna drop everything else. I'm blow and have a good time
and it's uh
It's not lonely. It's lonely that morning
When you're sitting there and you go, what am I fucking doing, you know, and
There's just so many ups and downs
To this business that people don't really know about they they see you one on your netflix special
You know cracking jokes
Walking around they think you leave there and you're the life of the party. I love when women start dating comedians
I love when women start dating comedians and after 90 days they tell their friends at work
I've got this new guy i'm dating. Oh my god
Then they all get together and come and see him and they tell her it must be a barrel of labs
Living in the house with this fucking joker
And within three years you see what fucking barrel of labs to this to live with a fucking comic and
Because there's a flip side to that laughter
There's a flip side to that happiness. There's a yin and a yang, you know what i'm saying
And you pay for all of it and it's the same thing with music only a different energy
You're putting out music, you're not exposing yourself, which in the way you really are
You know people are seeing you the tiny chandelier deal
And at the end of it all everybody goes back to their room and here you are in your room by yourself
And the party's over and yeah, but I have so much respect for guys like you
Sam kinnison
You know all my buddies jim florentine, you know craig gas
You know guys who get up on that stage
With basically your dick in your hand
That's all you got
You know, we got amplifiers we can be louder than anybody. You know, we got lights we got
Fireworks we got big screens. It's just you and a microphone
out there
and
I couldn't do that
You know and you're bearing your soul to the audience. How do you do that?
I don't know
I don't know
I sit here and I forget who the fuck gave me permission
To actually believe that I was gonna do like, you know, I'm saying like give me a shit something
Who gave you permission who gave you who gave me permission to think
That I was gonna be like I didn't get the memo that I was gonna be an aziaz ones band after he broke up a black Sabbath
I didn't I didn't get that memo you get it really
I didn't get this memo about comedy
I never got this thing that this is what it was going to end up like at all
booty when I got into this it was just to do something with my life
I didn't get I didn't know
Anything I love richard bryer and I love what he stood for and when he lit himself on fire with the coke
I loved him even more
You know and then I read the lennie bruce book and I even became more infactuated when becoming a comic
But I didn't have the heart to get on stage
Come on. This is a great idea
But then I got locked up and I would go up and fuck with the fucking invicts during the week
And then I realized this is nothing. This is what I've been doing all my life
There's a part in uh, what's that movie with pechino where he plays the football coach
Oh, yeah, yeah on any given something. Yeah, he takes jamie fox from 30. Come here. Yeah, it's a quarter to five
Your mother's gonna call your mother just called jen for dinner. You got one plate left
Remember you made the guy run to the Cadillac and hook a fucking right same thing
It's the same thing I was doing
I'm 54
You know, it was the same thing I was doing maybe
I don't know when I was 15
In front of a deli in front of 12 people
I'm doing the same thing. I was doing in the deli
Talking about we went to a party that day. Let me tell you what fucking Rudy did this cocksucker. No, I didn't
I didn't make up with the chick, you know
He took down a tree and a zipline
No, I didn't I didn't take anything down
Lee got a group on and that's what I'm saying. Lee didn't take the zipline down
But that's what I would tell my friends and that would start from there
Yes, you did cocksucker and you used the group on and then from there everybody would chip and that's staying up comedy
You're just doing in front of your fucking friends
And then the closer would be a chick would walk by and I take my dick out and ask her a question
I'm like some woman. I was like nine and I would take my dick out and ask a question and we ran away
That was the closer. It's the same thing. It was a performance
I've been doing this all my fucking life without even knowing you didn't even know it
You know on fridays in the sixth grade. I used to have to go to the front of class and sing my eyes adorge
By frankie every fucking friday. Yeah, and I actually thought I was frankie valley. I'm sure it was an eye and collar
It's the things that are right in front of your face that you end up
I just do it in a higher magnitude now. Now I do it in front of 300 people a night
That's the 12 people a fucking delicatessen
You know, I'll I'll never forget
The first day I ever stood on stage
As a musician, you know the first gig, you know, it was in miami
We used to have this thing called open houses, which was not an open. It was and nothing to do with real estate was actually
it's some sorority
group or some little
gang were finance this this dance
you know and the uh
So they were higher bands and that's what the chicks were, you know, it's kind of like a social thing, you know
And we had a band and I stood on a stage and it was a proscenium type stage
so there was like an enclosure and I I
I never seen this before but I actually saw
like an energy
Like a shield protecting me from the audience protecting me because it was some pretty rough kids out there, you know
And once in a while they'll have like an inner
Inner fraternity fights, you know
You know between different fraternities, you know come in, you know, somebody will get stabbed or shot at it's miami
you know with bunch of cubans, you know back in the 60s and uh
Man, I stood up there and I felt safe for the first time in my life safe
In a sense that was not going to get emotionally hurt
Because I used to get emotionally hurt a lot, you know, first of all, you know coming from cuba to the united states
You know, we we when we arrived in miami in 61
They were trying to avoid what eventually did happen, which is the cubans taking over
You know, miami was a sleepy little town, you know tourism in miami beach and that's about it
You know no real industry except for building yachts, you know, that's about it
And so here comes these cubans all of a sudden it's like whole shit. Um, how are we gonna
You know hire these people there's no jobs, you know, that's how we got relocated to uh to west new york, you know
And we became basically undesirables, you know, so I was in the undesirable. That's how you're the original serians
You know, we were undesirable because we were cuban refugees and then we were undesirable
I was undesirable because I was a fat little kid in the 60s and just all along. I was undesirable. So I was emotionally
Really beat up, you know until I started playing music and
You know
Coming from cuba, you know, people asked me about politics and then go, you know what politics
When I was a kid completely let me down. First of all, you had, you know, we were, you know, this
I was about 11 years old by the time we left cuba and
So, you know, at 11, you know, what's going on, you know, you see this this revolution that just happened and this guy comes on tv
And starts making all these promises and before, you know, things get really fucked up
And my family has to leave the country and take us. So that was my first real
You know, downer
Or, you know about politics, you know, so we get to united states
And things are really cool politics wise. We got kennedy and he's really a good, you know
Good president and the country loved him and he gets shot
Well, that's second, you know, there's no stability
Nothing, not there's nothing here to protect you, you know
Politicians are not going to protect your government. It's not going to protect you my mom and dad
They're doing their best to take care of me. But this is all unstable because
Even somebody that you're rooting for somebody you really appreciate that's, you know, that's doing something for the country
They could be snuffed any moment now, you know, it just happened, you know
Or this guy can't come in and make a bunch of promises and turn out to be a liar
You know, and you got to leave the country
It wasn't until the Beatles came in
That was my salvation
It gave me hope
Life all of a sudden that we got music
Music, you know music has never let me down
I might have let music down. I quit it. Maybe a certain part of my life. I didn't devote myself enough
to the craft of music
But it's always been there
I got no beef with music music let me down one time
When I went to see black cyber with Dio
Sammy Hagar was opening up for shaking street. I was never sold that down in my life. You understand me?
I was one of the worst shows of my life, but I love Dio
Yeah, yeah, Ronnie was no, I love Dio with black Sabbath. Yeah, yeah, but you know, it's just once I devoted my
Instead, okay, this is what I wanted to you know, I came to LA and I burned my ship
It was I didn't have any plan B
I was gonna do what I am doing
It wasn't like well, if it you know, if it doesn't happen, I'm gonna be a shoe salesman or whatever. No, no
I mean it and it was a religious experience for me to actually
Get that call from Ozzy, you know that changed my life, you know
To do what I'm doing today because I I I bring everything else that that I've been that I've done for the last since 1981
To that moment
And that's the moment that it happened changed my life, you know
And even though I have made peace with God and everything there was no plan B
You know, that was it. I was sleeping on the floor and I got that phone call. It wasn't like, uh, well, you know me
Well, I'm selling shoes at pay less or whatever. No, I was I was gonna be a musician and that's it
I was the start of a musician. You would stop in the street and say, hey, dude. What are you? What do you do?
I am a musician
You know to me it just starts with that preview visualization. I am I am this
You know without that you just don't have any
Any platform to really stand on for what you believe or you believe that you can be someday
I listen Rudy. I told you I had the same problem when I came here. This was it
This was it. This was it
If something good didn't happen
I was gonna go stab my uncle and get on the plane and go to new york and try to sell drugs
That's it. That was it. There was no plan B
I was out of plan B's
I was out of plan B's jack, you know, I was
28 maybe when I came to come in 91. So I was 28 years old
I never been to prison. I already sold drugs that worked for a printer. I did everything
This was the last ray. I hope and it took me two years just to get
To understand the magnitude of whatever what I was getting myself into
You know what I'm saying?
Like I thought you went up on stage somebody walked in and saw you you got an HBO special and you were a comedian
That's it. I didn't know that you had a right jokes and stuff
I thought well, no all those specials. You see I thought somebody would just call you that morning. What are you doing to that?
Come on down with a run a camera come and do 40 minutes. That's what I thought it really was
And then I realized what the parameters were how hard you had to work and again
You have another decision to make correct
When you realize when you joined Ozzy when you joined quiet ride and shit started rocking and rolling
This was a long step from you guys in the garage dicking around
smoking three joints playing come together or
Or help the skelter. You know what I'm saying?
This ain't help the skelter no more that guy in the corner
That's a juke and he answers to another string of fucking jews and they're here watching you
So you make songs that sell money because that's how you co-exist. That's how you know, it's a different game
Yeah, you've come a long way since that garage. Yeah for me. It was the same thing
I was doing I was following line dance classes
On a sunday night at a country western bar
Bombing on t age no and then bolder and in denver. I was doing comedy. That's why I started and next thing, you know
I'm in the 2000 seat theater opening up for joe rogan, you know opening up for paul mooney opening up for eddie griffin
You know opening up for dice in vegas, you know, I went from the one extreme to the next and now you're like wait a second
But there's a big
Moment where you have that doubt. Did you ever have that doubt at all where you like?
This is what it's going to take
Because when you joined when you were already in azi you had already a little bit of taste of fame
From quiet right not really no no locally only locally and that's you know, this that's not going to get you anywhere, you know
You're just a local big fish in a small pond, you know
And the pond was getting bigger and drying up because at that time that I got the call from azi
It was all about new way from punk here in los angeles
It wasn't about rock and roll, you know rock and roll as we know it or it became in in the 80s
You know, you had bands like motley crew and radham
And and and doc and just playing locally or you know trying to get that break, you know
You know, it was it was it was a whole different different la
But it's really interesting that you said you you said the same the same premise when I came here
And I think that's what la is la is the place where if you got a dream this is where you come to
You know, you don't go to fargo
To fulfill your dream unless you're a farmer, you know, you come here
so
This is what really separates la
From makes it different from the rest of the country, you know, this is a it plays where and where
Winners and losers all come here for that shot that one shot man
This is it. This is like this is a bigger gambling city
Than las vegas because you're gambling with your life your future
Here, you know, you you could lose your money
At a table and still make the money again
But to lose your life to lose your future who you are
Not to really accomplish your dreams. That's the biggest loss you could ever have
ever
not to
What was what was the wording you just used?
accomplished dreams
Not to even accomplish your dreams
But not even to go for them. That was my biggest fear
My biggest fear was going fuck. I had the opportunity to really go down. Yeah, but at least you had a dream
You know how many people I know that
Don't have a dream
Don't have a dream. They're just happy with you know, god bless them because we need everything of you know
We need everybody to be different things
But that wasn't us. That wasn't you. That wasn't me
That wasn't the people that that have come to la to make it, you know
And I know people in la that came here to be musicians
You know, they they happen to arrive at the time where the music industry was shutting down
But they have no choice. They came here and they actually became bigger
successes
In fields outside of being a musician
I got personal friends of mine who are like huge industry people that you talk to them say well
Yeah, I came here to la trying to you know, get in the band and and do this and they fail at that
But boy, they're like the biggest in their field
That is that is well, that's always a blessing. I look a leak came here to be in that
The day he called me he was gonna apply the pizza place and he didn't show up and
Uh, a fundraising thing for like a democratic or like just a political phone raise a fundraiser on the phone
I was I was applying the second job because like I I was I wasn't making enough to survive
And we started as making videos for a hundred a week
That's it. I'll shoot a video you edit a week and
We would talk about different things, but if he never would have contacted me
He would have been back in boston today
It's just making the effort sometimes
Yeah, absolutely. What if happened if he would have gone back to boston
I started a podcast and you would have been listening to him now going. I wish I would have fucking contacted him
Yeah, I mean and that's you know, that's that that was always my biggest fear about anything
How much how much thought did you guys put into coming here? Because everything
My I think one of my biggest issues in life is over overthinking things
And I notice when I when I just do things off of a random whim
They you I mean not always but they tend to go. Okay. It tends to go better than I thought it would
So like I
I was just in an office like they kept me working for the summer because they were very nice. They loved me
So they were just like we'll keep you here. There's nothing for really you for to do
So I was just hanging out on facebook
Trying to be like look like I was busy. So I would do some things and then I just wrote you a message randomly
Everybody growing up
Wants to do the right thing
You know, we all want to do the right thing. You know what I mean?
I think the day I made the decision to become a comedian. I let everything go
That was the day I stopped thinking about things
That was the day I stopped worrying about bills. That was the day I stopped worrying about what day it was
It doesn't really matter. You have a mission to do shut the fuck up get up go do it and that's it
That was the day you
It's it's it's a horrible fucking thing
Because you have to suck 20 000 dicks a woman has to suck 20 000 dicks before she finds a prince
What do you think we do as men? We got to suck 2 000 dicks
We got to work construction work this work that until we figure out what we want to fucking do
But once you do it and you think about it for maybe a day
And you decide to give it a try and you stop thinking you just do
Thinking is the enemy of man. It's the destructive of man
Once you get thought and once you start giving yourself obstacles. What if I do lose you just lost. Yeah, absolutely
You just lost. Yeah, what if I did well if I try and I don't like it
Okay, you know what? Yeah, you just said the word if I try it. I don't like it. Yeah, you already committed out of it
You're out of then three weeks just because you said that just because you allowed your mind to go there
You just quit already three weeks from now. It's gonna last three weeks. It's gonna last three weeks
I think it when I came to LA I had nothing to lose
I know where the fucking go
I was just a comment. I ended up in Seattle with a stripper
and
I thought the goal of coming I told coming to LA meant you had to be the best of the best of the best
In your field and it didn't mean that
Just coming here makes you a better person in a way. Absolutely. It lifts your level and then once you get here
It's like anything else
You adapt and adjust. Is that the word?
And you fucking run with the ball like you know what you're doing even though you don't
Yeah, that was what it was for me. I ran with the ball
Even though I did not know what was going on, you know, how much I used to torture Richie super in 1998
That's another success story, you know, he used to fucking hate me because I knock on his door every time
I was at that office and go yeah, when he gonna put me on the road dog and you missed it last night. I killed
He would go just because you killed don't mean you're fucking gonna be a success now get the fuck out of here, kid
I would leave him alone
You know, and yeah, you're right now. He's got to be a company
Now he's got to fucking be a company, you know, you never know till you wake the fuck up
Out of bed and do something with your life. That's it. That's what I say every moment. Just get up. Just get up, bro
Get up and get out
You might be walking and bump into a fucking cd
A cb radio salesman and he talks into becoming a cb radio salesman. Where's the cb?
They don't you don't use the cb no more
But there's got to be 3 000 people who are still stuck in the cb
And you find all of them and sell them new cbs
Every you know every fucking seat has an ass
When I used to sell cars I go look at that fucking green car. Who's gonna buy that?
And I had an old car manager that would go every seeds got an ass kid
Somebody will come in here and buy in a week later. There's somebody with there would be
One man's chicken is another man's gumbo dog. It might be an ugly car to you
But there's some guy wow a green car. I want that fucking thing
Yeah, you know, I just want to go back to one thing you mentioned before which was the letting go factor
To me that that was the key to me
As soon as I let it go, it's just you just poured
Just let it go let it let it happen. You know what I mean? It's just like
Don't like you said don't don't
Don't defeat yourself
By having the negative thought that it's not gonna happen. Don't worry even worry about it. It's gonna happen
You know if you look at if you go back a hundred years
Los Angeles
Los Angeles is a place that has been built upon people that came here with a dream
You know back going back to the silent era
You know like all these men and women that want to be part of the silent movies and and then you know, you got radio television
And then finally, you know
Eventually music became a part of it, you know, so this is generations of dreamers
Dreamers even if you were like, you know, my wife, she is not in the entertainment industry
But her word her dad came to to la
You know from the midwest because he wanted to be a guitar player. He wanted to be a musician
You know, so it's it's generations of dreamers that
Make up this whole this whole area this whole place. This is one of the most unique
unique environments
in the whole world
I never thought about it that way. I think of my parents leaving cuba. Yeah
Before the revolution, yeah, like they knew something that maybe
Yeah, they left like my dad left him like 52 or something. He was a young kid. He goes fuck this shit
You know, he did what most people do. They just left after high school. Yeah, they just got up and they said fuck this
I've had enough of this island living Gilligan still hasn't showed in shit. Yeah, so what do you got coming up?
more shows with
with the guess who
We have an album coming out
Let's see, uh, uh, rock and roll fantasy camp september. Would you just priest?
A whole bunch of stuff. You're a fucking savage. You know, man, I this is a monday morning podcast
And I think just the last 15 minutes of this podcast was so strong for a monday morning
About like where it all starts with your mind
People don't really believe that shit
But it's true Rudy for me. It started when I said
I'm getting into comedy. I don't give a fuck about my credit bureau
I don't give a fuck about the credit card people
I don't give a fuck about the banks. I don't give a fuck about what I drive
I don't give a fuck about what my clothes on
Because at the end it doesn't really matter unless you're happy for years. I worried about my job and
I gotta have white sneakers or not. I gotta have a black shirt on it. Who gives a fuck
At the end of the day, I wasn't happy
I wasn't happy. I didn't get happy till I started driving
Cross country with a pair of shorts on and stinky sneakers and a t-shirt
And you got three pair of jeans and three shirts and then last thing you're all week, dog
You got like four pair of socks and you get on the stage
That's when I really started getting happy
When I started waking up in the morning and knew I had to drive 200 miles
And I had 3250 in quarters
And I had to get lunch with that reefer and gas to get me to that next location
For some reason I'd be fucking happy a lot happier than
Making fucking 1200 a week and paying my bills. I was like, this is what I like. I like this. So
It's food for thought. Sometimes it's not about the money or the dollars
It's about what brings a fucking smile to your face, you know
Finding the joy in whatever you do in life, you know, whatever you choose
Whatever your dream is, you know, it's gotta be joyful. And once you find it, let yourself go
Don't think about it. Don't look back. Yeah, don't compare prices
Don't listen to your uncle about taking that roofing job for 1250 for stability. You know, you know what?
Stability is overrated. Don't stability is overrated. Absolutely. I think happiness is
fucking doing what you want
To the fucking health and even if it broke like I was in comedy for
I was in comedy for 12 years before I saw a dime
Yeah, we were getting paid but nothing to write home about
I could have quit at any time in those 12 years and found a job
I would have tricked somebody into being an indoor salesman. I didn't want to do that
I would have rather
Live on 8 000 a year and do my own thing and
Fuck around at night and smoke pot with your stupid buddies and get on stage
Then go into an office and insurance who gives a fuck when you think about insurance. That's when you need insurance
For 30 years, I ran around with no insurance. Nothing ever happened to me
Once I got insurance, this one started getting cut in two takes and fucking hemorrhoids and your asshole hurts and shit
When you have no insurance and you're not worried about it, you're fine. Nothing happens to you. You have another such shit
Yeah, I mean I just like you went through your own
journey, you know
mine was
After randy died, I just lost all the joy of playing, you know, because every night we have to go on stage and it was a reminder
Of the tragedy, you know, and I actually left ozzy
To join choir riot, which was the biggest unknown
You know, it was like nobody in la believed in the band
We had like, you know a really bad record deal, but at least it was a record deal and
But we couldn't even get management
We had to beg people to manage us and you know, it was like these guys are you know, but as soon as I got my butt on
The first few shows that we did we rented a station wagon and we drove up to san francisco to play at the keystones up there and
The joy of music came back
I had just left one of the biggest bands in the world and here I am playing with the you know with with my buddy
Basically, you know a garage band level, you know driving around in a station wagon
and
But I was happy again
Now wouldn't it come out here the noise and all that come out?
Well, I mean it came out on the radio, but you know that no what year? Oh, it's 83
So, okay, so you had that success with them
No, with with with with aziz first right with aziz first. They're quiet right then quiet right now
What's the record that you guys have you guys have it's the number one heavy metal album?
Yeah, well, you know it was actually the first debut
Metal album to reach number one. Okay. There's some way because I saw yeah
And this is during the the time where to go to number one you had to sell about a million copies a week
You know, so it's a lot of records. I mean, you know, like today, you know, like all these people are great getting Grammy awards and whatever
They won't even you know
Get sell a million in a year, you know, which is because you know
Downloading and you know illegal downloading and everything that goes on, you know
I mean basically nowadays you you make a record so you can go to a promoter and say, hey, you know got a brand new record
You know give me some shows
back in the day was you you
You did the shows to promote the record now you do a record to promote the shows
You don't make any money on records
Nobody does and we're trying to find like that's why we do meet and greets
You know VIP meet and greets, you know, because it kind of like covers the cost of of whatever
Touring cost we get, you know the compensator and sold merchandise and stuff like that. I can catch Stevens 300 hours
at the beacon theater in new york city
The prices for the tickets are outrageous, but people have to know
Because there's no more record sales. Yeah, there's only one band that's going to make money this year. That's guns and roses
If they release a lot our uh studio record that was the rumor early on
Yeah, but even the stones the stones released one this year
I don't know anybody who's bought the record
It's a stones record. Come on. It was like, you know, and it's soon as the back in the day you and I
You know, you know, yeah, right there. We'll just get it. You know, it was automatic
It's a different fucking game on that brother sure is
Always a pleasure
You know, I love really death
Like I said, I got no fucking dates to promote. It's labor day. This podcast is for you
And uh, I just gotta tell you two or three things and I'll be out of your hair. Number one as usual
Blue apron bitches. It's the number one fresh ingredient recipe
Delivery service in the country
Their mission is to make incredible home cooking
Accessible to everybody. All right
And that's a beautiful thing. I teach how to cook as a family
Because let me tell you something families who cook together stay together. I don't care what you say or what they tell you
You know, my experience of blue apron has been tremendous leaves had a uh great experience of them
They come the the products are measured. There's no waste everything goes in and what you get yourself is a delicious
delicious home cooked meal
And uh, you know what 45 minutes or less. I did you know, they're affordable for $10 per person per meal
Blue apron to deliver the seasonal recipes along with proportion
Ingredients to make tremendous home cooked meals. You got a variety. You choose get a variety new recipes each week
Or let blue aprons cool in every team surprise you recipes are not repeated within one year
So you'll never be bored. You customize your recipes each week
Based on your preferences and there's no weekly commitment. So you only get the deliveries when you want them
Each meal comes with a step by step. Listen to me step by step
Easy to follow recipe card and proportion ingredients can be prepared in 40 minutes or less
If I could do it you could do it blue aprons freshness guarantee promises
That every ingredient in your delivery arrives ready to cook or they'll make it right
You want me to tell this week's menu some of vegetable with egg paninis with calabrian chili mayonnaise
And a caprese salad you never dreamed of making a caprese salad soy glazed
Pork and rice cakes with bok choy and marinated green beans. I don't even know what bok choy is
skillet vegetable chili with corn meal and cheddar drop biscuits
Are you kidding me garlic butter shrimp and corn with green bean salad and roasted purple tomatoes?
I thought dr. Zeus had purple tomatoes, but that's not how it works out
Listen, here's what we're gonna do check out the menus. If there's something you want
I'm gonna tell you what i'm gonna do
I'm gonna give you three free meals with free shipping by going to blueapron.com slash joey
You're gonna love how it tastes. You're gonna love how it feels and you're gonna be happy
You get to create incredible home cooked meals right in your house with blue apron
So don't wait right now. Give me the shot, bro. Give me the shot
You want to lose weight the whole thing this is how to do it?
This is the start right here blue apron dot com slash joey blue apron a better way to cook. All right, number two on it
Best supplements out there
Alpha brain and don't work for you. You don't like it. Whatever. Yeah, I don't know
I started thinking about marshes. You don't like it. You said you don't even have to send it back
And they'll give you a money back guarantee 100%
They also have the hemp force protein. You got the shroom tech sport
Shroom tech immune if you fly all the time you keep your immune system up and that's it and that's that
I love you motherfuckers. See you Wednesday. Stay black
Stay healthy and have a good fucking day. All right, and don't let nobody fucking day
Remember what me and rudie told you it all starts with your fucking dream
Have a great day. Love you
Oh
Yeah
Oh
Oh
Oh
You