Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #581 - Billy Corben

Episode Date: May 2, 2018

Billy Corben, director of documentary films such as: Cocaine Cowboys, The U, and Broke, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Blue Apron: Go to blueapron.com/JOEY to get your first THREE meals for free.  FujiSports.com  - Use promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount on all the best jiu jitsu and martial arts gear.   Onnit.com - Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.  

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My main man is here. Well my main man Billy Corbin is here my little brother the Christ killer But today I got two Christ killers in studio. I love it. I fucking love it talk to me Billy Corbin I can't believe I'm actually here. I've only ever done this on the phone This is well, but I and and this is like food porn I think my diet is gonna be Me calling you up on the phone and you just reading the blue apron menu to me cuz I feel I feel nourished your fucking stop It's delicious delicious. Yeah, it's like food. What's like a Scorsese movie with the food you see the food you're like I'm hungry roast pork with salsa Verde with sauteed vegetables. He's not so what stop it

I'm hungry beef and rice bowl with soft boiled eggs and roasted No slower slower slow do it slow read it slower Beef empanadas with roasted sweet potatoes and creamy zucchini. What are you fucking crazy sexy son of a bitch? Hotel, California is that an original LP original? You know, they don Henley. Yes Glenn Fry wrote the lyrics in Miami Beach The hotel California hotel California wrote the lyrics in Miami Beach 52 42 North Bay Road was a mansion. They rented

This is a pretty popular place. Stephen Stills had rented it before them used to hang out Doing drugs with shell Silverstein Crazy scene Before that the Watergate burglars and Howard Hunt had rented it before that it was like a love nest for Howard Hughes and Ava Gardner back in the day, but you know flash forward and and they're they literally for three days Don Henley and Glenn Frye close themselves in like an upstairs bedroom in this in this cool creepy old-school Miami Beach mansion and Just the housekeeper would leave sandwiches and beverages at the door Nobody saw these guys for three days

And they come downstairs. I think Don Henley had like a like a white terry cloth robe Glenn Frye was in like red pajamas or something They had just they like they just hold up there and like hermits and they came down with a legal pad and They said to these two young girls these these cool like hippie chicks who got in the business of renting houses to rock stars Who were in town doing music at like criteria studios who turned into a big? recording recorded music scene down there and Because we had the best drugs and it was away from the the prying eyes and ears of the record labels and you know So these guys come down they have this this

legal pad and they say we just wrote the greatest song we've ever written and they sat there these two girls and and Don Henley and Glenn Frye and read them line by line kind of a cappella went through the lyrics So the first time ever to Hotel California and and they were always they were very proud of how smart they are and how great the Lyric, you know, and they like explicated it like what every line meant and what every metaphor was and they they just Sat sat there watching this and said holy shit. That's gonna be a great Great song and it was Hotel California Which was lyrics written in in Miami and recorded and mastered in part at criteria studios in North Miami, Florida

Where to this day they got the um the upright wooden piano that the Layla piano solo the famous Layla piano solo was recorded on There's a great story about Steven stills playing it He had like a baggie of cocaine on top of it and he was playing the piano and the baggie fell over open Poof on the on the keys, you know kind of exploded on the keys and the engineers would go in with straws and wedge the straws between the keys For weeks for months later, you know, sort of God knows what dust cocaine who the hell knows All and this this is where the magic happened I mean it was it was cool in those days because because the work

I mean you go to criteria and the bg's would be playing basketball against Crosby stills Nash and then the other studio was Aerosmith or or Fleetwood Mac working on rumors It was they did rumors there in part. They dumb Jimmy Buffett did you know changes in latitudes changes in attitudes there Margaritaville All there he was tired of the country music scene in Nashville as producer said Why don't you sail your sailboat to dinner key marina and coconut Grove more there live there Which is also where David Crosby and more to sailboat and come to criteria and that's where he created He had created the sound he became famous for that kind of Caribbean rock sound. He did that at criteria that the the eagles the bg's never left

461 Ocean the you know the the they're a Clapton album. He came Rented that house they got the album He named the album after the house that he rented in Golden Beach 461 Ocean that the cover is him standing in front of this house He'd gotten out of rehab great place to go when you're out of rehab Miami obviously in the 70s, right? But he records this album and he called up He had I think he shared a manager with the bg's and he called him up and they're like you got to come to Miami Man and the bg's came with their wives their kids They stated 461 Ocean after Clapton dead and the bg's never left

They bought three mansions right next to each other that the two girls who rented the eagles the house in Miami Beach They they became realtors and found the bg's three houses next to each other in Miami Beach and the bg's opened a studio called middle-ear They were Tolkien fans like Middle-Earth Middle-Earth studios It's now an enterprise rental car back in Sunset Harbor Miami Beach The eagles opened a studio Bayshore studio down in Coconut Grove and it just was this cool This cool scene but criteria which is still there. It's the hit factory now a lot of magic Aretha Franklin did Respect our ESP Ct James Brown recorded I feel good

He recorded there So it started out like a lot of R&B and soul and jazz and stuff and then evolved into Into a rock scene. I mean then what they would do is is um, so there was no you had no record labels anywhere near there You know they were all out in LA here in New York And so you had guys and and they would sit they would criteria would just send the bill right to the to the studio to the label Rather and say you know just send us the fucking check, you know And they would get calls from like the accounting people the record label. They'd be like hey listen I want to ask you about this because they would they would bill for cocaine under the line item piano tuning

That's how they would so they would try to they would try to pass the expense of the blow onto the record label So the record label would get the bill from the studio and be like hey listen Um, we're trying to figure out we got a bill here $5,000 for piano tuning and there's only one ballad on the album. What's with all this? What's all the piano tuning? There's one big rock band who came back years later recorded there in the 80s came back later in the 90s and the the studio Manager his his his mom actually was a studio manager before him and he said to the to the lead singer I mean this is a big big band big front man He says hey, I don't know if you remember you were here in the 80s

And I was this little kid running around my mom ran the studio and now I'm in charge It's great to see you again. The guy says to him. I don't remember a goddamn thing About what happened here in the 1980s. He said I have one memory About my experience here recording in the 80s and I only remember it in part because people reminded me later about it He said apparently we were here recording one night. We wrapped up and someone said you got to come to this ladies house They went to this like earthy hippie ladies house in North Miami and he said we sat down on her couch She came out and put down on the coffee table a Kilo of cocaine an entire

Kilo of cocaine She cut it open. He says all I remember is the smell of An entire kilo of pure, you know, like 99 hundred percent pure Colombian cocaine He goes that's my only memory of Miami in the 1980s is that smell I'm still upset that shell Silverstein was doing coke. He I don't know my child I don't know if he was doing coke, but he was hanging out at that house poolside. What a weird scene though, right? He's a poet. What like that's all I know from the killing a five-year-old. Yeah, these Man was a we have a good but read that shit

You had to be a little fucked up to write to write the shit that shell Silverstein was writing. Am I wrong? I mean come on now. No, you know before the podcast started we were talking I said to you When are you gonna run for fucking man, and you looked at me. I'll never be mad. I got a family. No, you don't understand you love The city of Miami. Just you even knowing this shit proves that even more strengthens my case That you know everything about Miami I Think that's I don't know. I think it's it's important to be proud of where you come from I think it's important to rep something because then because if you don't if you rep nothing then nothing reps you

You know what I mean, but no, but here's your beauty You show us the beauty from time to time You always show us the ugly shit like a dog a guy in bed with a dog Giving the dog a fucking hand job Where did this happen what part of Florida Miami had to be Miami and here's the the equally twisted thing about it or the Almost as twisted thing about it is that it's this guy in Miami so apparently he's got like surveillance cameras or something in his home and He was going through the footage for some reason and

Sees his roommate lying on the bed basically sexually molesting his dog and turns the footage over to the To the police. I mean the whole thing is the whole thing's weird like this house is all wired up You know and and he's watching his roommate Well, I don't know Ever since I got to LA one thing that I noticed was Florida in general has a terrible reputation Like I grew up well, I grew up going to Disney World

It was they was like the my favorite place on earth. We'd go every winter my dad lives in Boyne Beach He loved he like it's been my entire life His dream has been to move to Florida as soon as I move out here Everyone everyone like looks at Florida like you're talking about going to jail or something I don't like why like why do you have that if you follow Billy's Twitter? You think you will go to jail? If you follow Billy this days, I look at it like oh Jesus Christ I mean it never ends. Are you forget it's like the craziest shit Don't want a couple of weeks ago, but the cop being his wife of twice and

Still being on the job something fucking just that you look at and go that can only happen in Jersey Half of my hometown is mad at me because I posted a corruption thing that got busted last week Why are they mad at you? Because I put it on and it was hysterical my buddy posted it first. Who's an ex cop and It didn't even have a fucking bird on it like usually you have three likes like Like when I caught it. It was at midnight and he had posted like a thorny afternoon Like nobody even like my hometown is so semi-communistic That nobody had an opinion hell and then I put it on my page. Hmm. I said oh shit on his

My so there's so what you're saying is there's one comment on his right? Here's the truth of the matter. I was on the podcast with TJ and we were talking about the corruption nuts in County Hmm, I even got a call from the mayor you didn't see Brian Stan that he liked me because I I told the truth At least I'm not making this shit up But that's what I'm saying like why can wire people upset at you for telling the truth because I didn't say that what happened was And that same day Ellen donated $50,000 to my grammar school So I put the Ellen thing up. I saw that one and then I put up the the one about my corruption And like in the same tune like it was like something good happened in my hometown today and something bad happened

It just seems that it just what happened was I Grew up with a great family in town that I'm still dear friends with and Who I posted the story about was their alleged family member like a brother-in-law and all right So she contacted me and said how could you post that up? You know the truth. I don't I didn't think about it that way. I didn't know who the fuck I've gone for 35 years I don't know nobody's name. I don't know who these people are. I have no fucking idea. It's a new story, too It's a new story. Yes, so well, I mean, do you ever get stuff like that Billy? I mean, it's Jesus. Do I do I ever I Mean I hear from mayors I hear from commissioners I hear from gubernatorial candidates

I hear from certainly police officers and PIOs and police chiefs and assistant chiefs and and what have you Oh, they say to you, you know, I think a lot of people when they think about it I think it's mostly when they they think I'm being unfair about something for the most part. I think people who Have a brain or half a brain understand, you know, they understand that that that it's important to aggregate this kind of news I have a little platform in my community and and my my Billy pulpit as I like to call it and you know They it's important to be able to inform people about what's going on and and and yeah, it's definitely a warts and all Approach, you know, it's definitely a you know, we we we only roast the ones we love kind of thing and Miami, Florida in general It rarely shocks me, but it regularly disappoints me and I've always been determined. I'm a Florida native

I'm a lifelong Miami and and I've always dreamed of Leaving behind a better Florida than the one I was born into that dream is swiftly dying You know along with with my soul, but but like I still there's a night You know as much of a pessimist as I might appear to be on the social medium, whatever and in real life There's still an idealist, you know inside of me that that says well shit If there's something I can do or say or tweet or whatever that will Help maybe move the needle a little bit in a positive direction If only by informing people of the Florida fuckery that that persists that has become a genre unto itself and journalism and entertainment and comedy

I think it's I think it's important. I think it's important to shine a light on your flaws It's the only way you're ever gonna make anything Better is by saying this is what's identifying. This is what's wrong with it. Now if I didn't give a shit Why would I bother? You know, I wouldn't I just go and do my thing I'd make more money if I just shut the fuck up like you'll work for these politicians They could pay me to run campaigns or pay me to you know to do ads or whatever, but I got a conscience I got to look myself in the mirror. I got to live with myself I got to say I got to tell the truth as I I see it. I got to speak truth to power and

I you know, it's it's not that I don't give a shit It's that I give I might give too many shits, you know I just I care a lot about it and I care a lot about the people and I care a lot about the idea that You know, Miami is a shared experience where we have self-segregated ourselves, you know We've got 34 municipalities in Miami-Dade County. That means 34 different mayors 34 different city halls 34 different police departments Almost I mean everybody's got their own little fiefdom and we kind of gerrymandered ourselves and and segregated ourselves by race by Religion by nationality and it's kind of tragic because you know, if you live in You know, Aventura, you don't give a shit about

Miami gardens and if you live in Miami gardens, you don't give a shit about Homestead and if you live in Homestead You don't give a shit about Sweetwater sweetwater doesn't give a shit about Hialeah and Hialeah doesn't give a shit about coconut Grove And so, you know, Miami isn't a shared experience anymore. It's become I you know, I say that's you know, everybody's so selfish in Miami That's why they call it Miami. It's my fucking Emmy. It's not our Emmy or your Emmy It's it's my fucking Emmy, you know, and and I don't like that I was hoping that we've got a generation of because you know people nobody's ever born in Miami You know, like everybody's like you could be a Miami for 40 50 60 years. You say to someone where you're from they go Jersey

Philly, Chicago everybody's from someplace else But now we have a generation of people who were born there and who have roots there You know, I got third fourth generation Cubans and Haitians and people who were born in hospitals in Miami in Miami Beach And South Miami and Kendall and Baptist it, you know, and and you you want to inspire a generation to say Well, I got roots here now if this matters to me, you know as a lot of our parents and grandparents Not that it didn't matter to them, but it was almost more of a vacation spot, you know They were gonna be there. Yeah, they weren't really from there. Yeah, so I don't know it just I care a lot I probably care too much. I wish sometimes, you know, I wish I could I could care a lot less

It's just crazy that You post a lot of stuff and it's mainly just corruption. I mean the stuff you point Yeah, you post a lot enough of that to go around a cop a cop shooting somebody off duty But basically you do 70% of your action is a cop who had a mistress a Cop would live and blow, you know, I mean, it's always something that People never expect listen when I was 17 years I found myself in this weird situation I lived with this family after my mom died and I befriended a cop and he was just young

But it was still 1981 and cocaine was starting to fucking come in and he had a cousin who saw coke And as soon as he became a cop him and his cousin couldn't be tightly more So I became the goal between he would give him money in the daytime and on midnight when he got out of shift He'd come over to the house and I'd give him the coke at least he could do his midnight to eight shift coped up You know, and that's okay. I didn't look at him as a cop I looked at him as a guy grow up it as a brother and then you know, it started him going. Why are you going back in? Now here. I'm a junior in high school. He's like getting the car. Come on. Let's go for a ride And we started going to get an eight pack of a six pack of course nips

There were six ounce cans and you need to get a the six of my can't remember right now in northern, New Jersey And until 1 30 we drive around and have four beers a piece and do four or five lines of coke Don't he drop me off? This one on for about a month and a half and then it got to the point where we Get two eight packs of beer and we each had an eight pack a little ball of blackberry brandy And we'd sit on this ledge on Bergen Lane Avenue and watch people speed and guess what they were doing And the speed would come up on the thing even if there was speed and he wouldn't chase him Like what's he doing 55 52 you lost do a line like it was that type relation

Then I got to a point after a month or that that other cops would meet us And I still remember passing the coke mirror to the car next to me and these two guys in uniforms That's a scene in a fucking movie, but I saw that I saw that if I tell that story to five to ten people five times and the question of after them For those rooms are going a lot of the stories a lie Because they've never seen it and that's what you do you expose something That people don't see and guess what they never want to see because their heads explode And I have no dog in this fight

But what I like about what Billy does because a lot of people now with any any online platform They can tweet whatever they want Facebook whatever they want and have nothing to back it up a lot of times you tweet links to No, no, no, this is what I'm saying. You really got to bring receipts. Yeah, you know, I look at the shits on time It's like oh Jesus Christ But it's some of it is hilarious, you know crack mother who sold the two kids The other day you posted a woman a picture a woman. She had to be the ugliest woman With a stick 82 times She did something she did like something like she was up for eight days and I was something

There was that woman that was caught with cocaine a baguio cocaineer person She told the drop of the cops that she was driving with the windows open It was a windy day. So the wind must have blown it the bag you can't get to her purse and that because that's not mine that shit ain't mine and and She didn't get away with that they arrested her Anyway for cocaine possession that was a pretty popular crazy Florida story that that week But you know, I Every these days it seems like irony is dead, you know, because we have a you know

We have a gangster president like and so it's and that's not supposed to be how that works You know in the real world and it's the same thing here It's like that irony is is not really dead in Florida because you have all these things that are like this public corruption this backwards I think the Florida of today is the America of tomorrow And so if you want to know what challenges will face or calamities will befall us as a nation in the years to come You need only look at the shit going on in Florida specifically specifically South Florida. It's just America's canary in the coal mine It's just like the bellwether you look at the trends in crime in politics in demographics in economics It all starts in some way or or

Or evolves in some way in Florida or Miami I mean you name it and there is that Florida connection or that Miami connection and You know, and then we export this fuckery, you know, you know nationwide. It is our greatest Contribution is there's no indigenous industry in Florida. We you know, we produce nothing but oranges and and assault weapons That's what we manufacture or produce in Florida and the other thing we produce is is Fuckery and fraud and and we're like a sunshine state We have an you know, we sell the sunshine. We sell a Florida dream We sell lies that came true because everything there started is a you know a land fraud, you know land a land grab by Swampland

$20 $20 down $20 a month till you're ready to retire and build your dream home and you go when the fuck again I build a dream home. I'm in the middle of the swamp here not to mention hurricanes. I don't yeah, my dad lives there So I was a little nervous for him. I don't know if Miami was in the path of this last one We were how do you stay there when that happens once every three? Oh, yeah You know, you know, it'd be better if I was we're just sitting around here, you know With our thumbs up our asses and a fucking earthquake This is scary as shit out here you and you guys you you build your houses on the edge of a fucking hill with sticks

You gotta be I wouldn't how do you sleep at night knowing that the ground will just someday just disappear That's an earthquake a tough earthquake, they're gonna be rolled those houses And there's no listen we get hurricane watches we have hurricane warnings we have mandatory evacuations What happens when earthquake kiss you got an app now seven seconds you got set you have to kiss your ask about I got just enough time to smoke a bowl You grab the weed Seven seconds to grab the weed really now I didn't know that You know I watched that fucking that fucking dude on the news the half a fact

Comes on there once a week with new technological reports and shit. You got the app. No My wife puff a smoke in it and a joey shaped hole in the door. He's out of here But I get I should get it and fucking as soon as you get that little alert you get the weed the keys to your car And you pop that gate open so if it locks in you know, it's stuck in here just pop it so you hear the tremble pop that motherfucker Let me let's talk about this town for me because this town makes me sad like I you know I always say like it's you know the You know tears come out of the faucets and like broken hearts power the grid You know like it's it's a it this this is a town like of just sheer heartbreak and it makes me

Profoundly sad whenever I I come here for some reason. I don't know like like you know today I Was downtown and I saw a bus combined. There's this ad, you know on the side of the buses great big ad beautiful woman beautiful woman redhead and Just all done up. Just just look stunning and it was her name and insurance. It's her insurance company It's an ad for her with the number on the side and I thought to myself Was that her dream when she moved out to Hollywood was that her dream to be on the side of a looking

Stunning on the side of a bus for her insurance because she say I'm gonna pack up my my bags and head out west and fulfill my my lifelong childhood dream of Getting in the insurance business. I don't know like I feel like everywhere I look is like is like broken dreams and and broken hearts and it make I don't know It's it's all about perspective because I remember driving here I drove here twice and as soon as you see the palm trees as soon as you come into California the first time as a 22-year-old at a college. I was just like paradise. This is this is where my dreams are gonna come true This is I don't care about the beat. How's it? How's it going? I mean

No thing like I'm very lucky compared to a lot of people out here who are servers and yeah working in insurance But it's been when I first moved here people would always tease me that I still had a soul Like when I was 22 and then all the people who were 30 now that I'm almost 30. How about now? How's your soul? Ah? It's you had a soul cycle. It's all it's kind of like what Joey was talking about you just kind of You've seen it and you and you're not surprised anymore But it still kind of hurts your feelings when things happen and it's you like the shine kind of wears off Like I could just move to somewhere else and do this if I wanted to like right now I'm not going to but it's not it's not the land of milk and honey like it they make it seem but I'm driving down this

Don't say this Cain Boulevard. That's a Miami driving up Sunset Boulevard past the store and whose names on top of the Fucking bill pop up to life. Yeah, I mean God bless you I mean like you're in the 1% baby like I mean seriously the people who come here and go some day my name's gonna be Gonna be atop the the marquee atop the list, you know on the comedy store. I mean, it's amazing I don't remember one thing when I came here. I didn't come here with that dream. I Came here from the feedback I had gotten from other comedians. I Didn't not come here with that dream. I came out here with a dream to survive You know what I got the opportunity to move down that CBS is paying for for a pilot

Let me take a look. I know I don't belong there But let me go check it out If it isn't what it isn't I packed my bags I go back to Balda And I start from scratch But what do I got to lose? You know saying like it was always one of those deals It wasn't that when she made me a regular at the store there was hope, but Nobody was biting Nobody was biting nobody was really biting nobody really bit until like Adam Sandler mad TV

Then people bite a little but nothing to stand up And it's so weird a dear friend of mine called me Thursday. She said do you have a minute? I grew up at this girl She goes can you talk to me about sag and Not union how it works and I go what do you want to know she goes on my neighbor Booked the show and I go here's the deal you have to book one show Union and then you're eligible that means when you get the second one Sag before you even celebrate when the smith the phone rings from your agent and goes Hi, you just you booked it. Oh my god. Congratulations. It's gonna be great. You shoot on Wednesday and Thursday

You don't even hang up the phone two minutes in the phone rings. Hi This is Mildred from sag. I have your paperwork in front of me always Mildred What time can you come in tomorrow and you're like coming? What are you talking about coming? Like what time can you come in tomorrow for your pre-screening meeting gotta check your feet and you're like 1130 and they're like, okay, make sure you have a check and you're like excuse me Check and they're like, yeah, but sag is $2,500. There is financing available You're from Jersey, you know about the unions, but no when I first got here was 1250. Oh shit Double 1998 it was 1250 to join. I did not have the money the agent talked to the production company

They put it up. Matt Matt nearly guy, you know fucking This is not the Simpsons, you know, baseball. Oh Trey yeah, Parker Matt Stone production. No shit. That's awesome because my agent put him to get those guys are awesome But I don't know nothing about like I told I said it's 2,500 Does she really want to do this and she goes why go because you could just work non-union now right now The money's in non-union this time. There's no money in sag. You book a Netflix show. You don't get residuals Right, you get you get a buyout. You don't get no residual work for hire

Yeah, they don't know and and Netflix I find out doesn't tell you it shows numbers. Oh, no, no, it's it's it's brilliant They hide the from the nobody really negotiate it is It's a I think it's amazing because I and I will tell you I'm sorry the State Department Can't keep a secret there are leaks from the White House from the NSA from the CIA from the FBI You never hear there is never a leak at a Netflix. It is rock solid You never hear even the faintest trace of ratings or numbers have any documentaries. Oh, yeah All of them have been on there or are on there, you know, they come and go sometimes I don't know exactly how all the licensing deals work

But we've tons of shit on there and you never know and it's kind of amazing because what they do is I think really clever I mean, it's obviously a brilliant business. That's why they have a hundred million subscribers 125 I mean incredible incredible Million million 10 bucks a month for 125 million people. It's amazing. It's amazing They're spending billions of dollars on content, which is important for people like us You know, keep you know helps keep us in business But like, you know, what they do is pretty clever because you know, they're about to let's say debut a season of a show You got 10 episodes, right? 10 hours

They want you to dedicate of your life to binging this shit, you know, right? You know, and so they do something brilliant Usually the week of the premiere of a season like the days leading up to it You know, I'm flicking the switch and it's gonna be online in 60 70 countries. They announced that it's been picked up for another season meaning It signals to the audience that if you invest your time There'll be another you know another series another season at the end of you know at the end of the tunnel here next year

Whatever and it also gets the talent Less concerned about the ratings because the only thing you care about in ratings is are we gonna get another season? Are we gonna work again? Are we gonna get picked up? So if you know, you're getting picked up before the season even Premiers then you don't you don't even ask questions because that's all you only thing you matter The only thing that matters with ratings is you get to you know I always say the measure of a successful filmmaker is not ratings. It's not awards. It's not money or box office It's do you get to work again? And if you get to work again in this business, you are a success It really is it really that you broke it down

You are a success because listen some people make good movies some people make bad movies But there's a market for bad movies people love to see bad about the fucking people make bad movies And they keep giving them to them and you sit there at home going hot at this fucking guy Because there's an audience there's an all God bless them. I don't I don't I don't knock in I don't knock another person's hustle You know, we've all we've all got our you know our business and some people like what we do Some people don't like what we do, but if there's an audience for it, you know You'll hopefully get a chance to do it again, and that's all that that's all that matters We were talking about one. What do you do when you get there?

Billy wants to be a director. Well, he becomes a director. He direct kind of cold cowboys now. You're there. Yeah now You're there. You know what you gotta know everybody's watching for the second you you got to keep doing Oh, but it's true. You gotta do now everybody's waiting for the second one That's why the second album in music is so important. Yeah, that's why And we made it and we made a shitty sequel That's why it's a Second album gotta be a motherfucker. You've been working on the first one all your life. Yeah, that's first project You've been working on all your life

So now I put pressure on you to do you didn't seven years To do it in two years. That's what people don't really fucking know You know, I want you left with you let you put it all on that you put it all out there on the first one Now you got fucking B sides from the first one And now you're trying to get inspired and you're a totally different person in a totally different station in life You got you know, I always say I called spotlight syndrome, you know I believe that you know people always say why are like, you know, child actors end up so screwed up or people You know, what's with Kanye, you know, etc. You know, what's with what's with what's with Kim's husband, you know, so yeah

I called spotlights. I believe that Or Superman syndrome really is what it is spotlight syndrome is when you become not famous anymore Superman syndrome is you know You're you're told how great you are at something happens to athletes You know who eventually go broke or movie stars or music artists You get told your whole life how brilliant you are and how great you are, you know people telling you yes Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and you know, there's a saying, you know, they're saying it's it's it's a theory with them alcoholics or drug addicts That you are emotionally stunted Your development your emotional development is stunted at the age you start using I

Believe the same thing is true for famous people like really famous people So you wonder why famous people people who become really famous really young when you stop hearing no You know when you when people stop telling you the truth about shit when people are just around you to to you know To to to kind of leech on and and and ride your you know, your wave of success You're not gonna be able to kind of develop as a as a normal person at that point and it's same thing You're right with it like the second album. It's like well, wait now. We're famous now We're rich now. Everybody says we're geniuses. What the do we do now? I think a lot of people go mad a lot of people go crazy. I was here for the video boom

2004-2003 spent two million dollars on a video where people were YouTubing like I said YouTube YouTube and everybody's making these videos and you'd get a video that did You know five hundred thousand in three days. You're like, okay, and people are now waiting for your second one I told Lee that I can't tell you how many college kids come out here. Super confused They've gone to college and whatever frat they belong to they watch sign that live on a Saturday instead of going on getting pussy They sit there like eight fucking idiots and they giggle at that fucking horror show which is comedy Which is supposed to be American comedy. It's just garbage and They come out here with a credit card from dad

And they joined I saw the building last night for the citizen citizen the brigade whatever On Sunset, yeah, they have two of them in LA now thousand a fucking month to rent that I think they keep the lights on Sucker soup Suckers suckers come in there and think you could train your way to comedy or take in pride I mean, they've been doing it for years. I want to be a You think you're the only one you're here going to Chicago stupid. You know, they just they just don't get it They come out here and they join they go through that whole system and they buy into it

They buy into what those people say Listen, I did I did six weeks of an acting class and I worked with a famous actor. He goes quit acting class You have great instincts done James Colburn Tell me stop acting class. You got great instincts. Don't let them ruin your instincts kid I'll just ruin them. Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it I bought the steam for a while, but then I moved away from it when we were talking about fame The thing I hate about fame is The Kardashians are fucked up

You know, if you want to talk about selling your soul one thing I've been here is 20 years I've never sold my soul. I can look you in the eye as a man as a Jewish man as a man of faith You're a Jewish man part time Whenever it serves me right, you know, I start dancing the whole thing. I eat the white fish. I tell him how good it tastes This is phenomenal. I love that bread. You know I'm saying you show by the Barbra Streisand constant sit in the first row That's a Jew. You know I'm saying you want it. You want to get a developmental deal go to Barbra Streisand and sit amongst the Jews Excuse me. How you doing? All right, both for me. So I'm Shabbat Shalom. Who are you? Don't worry about who am I? The question is who are you and how we're gonna work this?

Do you want to sell a movie go see go to Barbra Streisand can't sit at the Hollywood Bowl? What what what up one of the world or something one of her 18th farewell tour? Yeah Yeah, you see his fucking thing. You want to be known this town you wasting your time with acting class Spend the 3g and sit up in front with all the richest Jews in Hollywood because they can't do who's that Who's Back in the day it was a a here Narcan on yeah, that's where the deals were getting done now They're getting done at Barbra Streisand constant You know the Barbra Streisand constant with a headshot

Coming home with a fucking three-picture deal a fucking eight series order Nobody knows this shit. There's someone right now listening who's gonna go to Barbra Streisand constant No, he's only going Idaho. That's where you fucked up. There's no Jews in Idaho You got to go to the Hollywood Bowl or the forum or whatever they just redid and just make just walk in like oh my god I'm so confused. Where do I sit? Who's this fucking gentile motherfucker? Well speaking of Netflix, I mean, I've always loved documentaries Billy I don't know I like I just always found them very interesting But has Netflix really made them explode because like I I'll be on Netflix just scrolling through and I'll see

I'll just scroll through the documentaries and see what looks good. Like I Didn't really think documentaries had that big of a platform before Everything on Netflix makes it more accessible and then helps stick to I think Enlarge the audience for it. I mean that you know and when we first made cocaine cowboys, you know, it was interesting We started to discover a market for nonfiction film amongst the demographic that was not traditionally thought of by

Documentary filmmakers and and distributors as the the normal, you know, it was an audience for documentary So it was younger It was more urban, you know There was a big hip-hop contingent that embraced cocaine cowboys and really helped blow it up in the bootleg market and by name checking It in in lyrics and songs and and you know and and our discovery was that talking with artists with hip-hop artists They were like, well, of course, we love documentaries. We're all about keeping it real, you know, what is what is, you know, I Public enemy used to call They used to call

rap music CNN for black people So Chuck D said, you know, and so Rap music is all about keeping it real and all in rap. You know, some of the best rap songs are documentaries, you know Our true stories, you know, that rhyme and are set to a beat and so What was incredible about that is that we were credited in part for introducing a kind of a different audience to nonfiction film And then from there, I mean in the last 10 years 12 years since cocaine cowboys came out Everything has gone nonfiction, you know, I mean everything you got doc mini series You got them on fucking billboards out here on Sunset Boulevard

You never saw a documentary series or a nonfiction series, you know being advertised in that way before but the whole thing blew up And I think Netflix and the streaming service has been extremely Influential in that and all the streaming services you have Hulu now you have Amazon every that competition helps generate more work and and more revenue in the marketplace and and people can just sit down and With their phones or the laptops or whatever on Apple TVs and go, what's on? I could watch anything I want, you know It's like people talk about the music to all the music recorded music business is dead But now more people than ever are listening to more music than they'd ever have in their lives

I mean you got a stack of LPs over here. This used to be how you'd listen to music, you know Other than the trend other than the radio now you go to Spotify You can listen to all the music, you know all the music you want all day long It's the same thing with movies now You have access to shit you'd never be able to see and that's when the the niche stuff Starts to to catch on and people realize. Oh, there's an audience for all this stuff that you know That we never really knew about before because no one really no one no one really could could could get it before now You can get documentaries everywhere and people realize. Oh shit people love

People love keeping it real people love, you know, truth is stranger than fiction. I love a documentary when I learned I even like a documentary more when I learned something I already know I can like when you did the one about the broke. Oh, yeah, it's going broke When you did broke Like that fucking opened my eyes, but my eyes were already open to it doesn't take a genius to know That you take a 21 year old kid give him a 7 million signing bonus and 11 million dollars either He's not gonna go crazy. If you put in a computer and stat stat that The statistics are fucking mind-boggling

How many people do anything with that money that money gets chopped up as soon as it gets there, you know I was thinking about Whitney Houston the other day. We were here me and Dean Deere over here Yeah, they doing a podcast about top-selling alms. I told my wife. I Didn't know meatloaf was the number four selling on the whole time. I didn't know back in black was number two Better selling selling out. But if you look at the top 20 best selling I was like Whitney Houston that like three of them I'm sitting there. They're going Who's chopping up our fucking money now? Because she died the daughter died. Yeah, you know, you know, how many fucking brothers are sitting around every month

We're waiting for the first and shit that Whitney money company that is shit I was just thinking about what that would Prince, you know They released this new song and now they got a new album coming out in September of all this stuff that he had recorded that he probably Never planned on anybody ever hearing it. Yes, you know estates estates are a whole business people run a state's Yeah, Bruce Lee Elvis. Oh, yeah, you know make a lot of money Michael Jackson Michael Yeah, Michael Jackson made more money dead Then he did alive and that's crazy guys can't take it with you But at least with music you can continue to make a living for your whole life

The one in broke that really got me because I grew up He was my first like Celtics the person I was a fan of Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker and Antoine Walker gambled and Drank his way to a hundred million dollars and he's broke like zero Like it's just like it's crazy and then you can't buy 35. You're just you physically can't play Yeah, you've got well listen you think about you know the the way it used to be when the American dream was alive and well spoiler alert It ain't no more But when the American dream was a thing, you know the way it would work in the world the average American You know you you go to school you graduate you get a job

Maybe you try a couple different rackets, you know along the way to see what you're what you're good at or what you get into And then you find a business that you're involved, you know You're involved you work your way up and as you work your way up you're getting promotions Hopefully you're getting a raise, you know as you're working your way up the food chain You're making more money along the way you do some things. Maybe you get married. Maybe you get divorced Maybe you buy a house. Maybe you lose a house. You make some good investments You start to learn as you go, you know experience wisdom at all cost and as you grow and then you you reach your 50s, you know

And you're making the most money Hopefully you've ever made in your life because you've worked your way up and something 60s, you know go out your retire and Take that and turn that shit upside down and that's what it's like for an athlete you As you said you're 21 22 years old barely in some cases someone gives you a multi-million dollar signing bonus pile of cash You know, and you're only paid if you're a football player only paid during the season So you have to figure out how to make that, you know, how to make that last, you know, um and Now what you're gonna make that money maybe from what 21 the average career in the NFL is 3.3 seasons That's it and NFL has the

uh shortest careers the highest the lowest average salaries the highest rate of career-ending injuries and Most of the players are journeymen, you know, they're making league minimum Which might sound like a lot of money, you know 700 grand or whatever it is, you know to anybody else But when you're in that line of work, you don't know where you're gonna be or if you're gonna have a job the next day Or if someone's gonna say, yo, you just got traded you got to move across the country Sell your house take your family at it You take your kids out of school move it. It's a pain in the ass, you know, like it's between that and the healthcare and everything

You really sap your your resources, but and then Before you're 30 years old It's over You're done with the only thing you've ever known how to do the only thing you've ever trained to do the only thing Anyone's ever told you you're any good at it's over. You're retired before you're 30 and there is 0% chance that you're ever gonna make that kind of money again doing anything else Let alone figuring out what the hell you're gonna do every guy say, oh, I'm gonna do a radio show

I'm gonna go. I'm gonna become a broadcaster or go on an NFL network. Well, first of all, you think about the number of jobs that are available in that Odds are you're not gonna have an opportunity to do that and then when you look at the salaries and media There's not that's that's not the kind of money that you were accustomed to making through your 20s You know and then these guys are at home all the time They used to be on the road or here or there they're at home with a wife They never really really knew kids They don't really know and then that strip puts a strain on the marriage and next thing you know 50% of your net worth It's gone to your ex-wife and you're you know in your fat and your your child support

I mean, it's it's a really it's like you said it's like these things. It's so obvious It's right there in front of you and then you see it synthesize like that and you're like this is just sad man It's just sad You know, I have a path. I could work every week You know get out of my wife and daughter's hair you know run my life out there and At 30 I would have done that right now. I would have been working for a week some month And I'm giving a fuck coming home on Tuesday. You know I'm saying every week. Yeah

Now at this age, I appreciate the life so much that I'm only out two weeks a month. I don't give a fuck who calls Yeah, they'll be there next year. If I could not take a red-eye this week. I would like to not take a fucking red-eye this week I'm too old for the red-eye man. I took the red-eye a couple weeks ago. Oh, I did okay. Oh, really? That was okay Yeah, I didn't get too eddled up yours. I Downloaded shit to watch on my iPad. You know you have to you do like a pro. I'm not a pro. I'm an amateur very That's all flying is flying is the hardest thing about flying is security Yeah, it's pain in the ass and all that other shit getting to a plane getting on and

Now you're on the plane five hours seems like an eternity not if you got three episodes of narcos Downloaded that's three hours. You're gonna read a book. I got an iPod. I'm gonna listen some music for now Should I haven't listened to no, I'll let's just spend it see what happens. You know I'm saying it's preparation You're well preparation. Yeah, so you have a little hotel pad last year from every hotel And I have a bunch of them in my sleep at me a bag. I got one pen in there. I got a xanax. I got an edible I got a vapor pen The only thing that makes me sad about that is that that means they're they're two weeks out of the month Where you are depriving people in some city or some some club or something out there some theater of you of the experience of seeing

You live which I tell everybody who has a chance to do is to see you live I love all that shit. I love performing But I also know up my breaking point at this age At 25 and 26 and 32 you really don't know your breaking point and then one day you call your age and go cancel I can't do this no more. I know my breaking point my breaking point a third week in a row is when I don't want to come out and take pictures It's when I can't wait to get this fucking set over like I'm sick and tired of saying this fucking joke That's not good when that goes thoughts start going into your head. It's time to go home Yeah, I mean, I'd rather give you a fresh weekend. I'm fresh

The legs are fresh. I'm rested during the week. I wrote three new jokes. I'm gonna try them out That's when you want to see me. I'm 55 if I was 38 Hmm, I could do three good weeks a month do two back-to-back take one off and then do a two-day Can't do it no more. Well, bitch. I could Billy. How many projects do you have going at it? Like at one time usually six seven eight. Wow. Yeah, it's a it's a big slate Well, you have to because you know gone are the days of the one hit one of living off the fat of the land You can't just do a margaritaville anymore and parlay that into a lifetime of Fortune and it's amazing. You can't do that anymore. I mean, you know, it's all about the next gig. It's the next podcast

It's the next, you know movie. It's the next TV show. It's the next spot. It's the next gig And that's what it is. It's a you know, it's a gig economy and and and we have to keep we have to keep working I gotta work when the work is there because someday the work is not gonna be there That's a day that kills me like I always say Why turn it down that day is never gonna come again, but now I have to be in here for 20 years I could already tell where you go with this Like I've heard every story You take me out to lunch you tell me scale

Tell me you don't have a distributor yet It's on the way Law talk to these Chinese people out of New York and next thing, you know, you shoot your heart out You you learn the lines you you do more beyond the ropes than what you get paid for and you gotta call three months that Do you serve that friend NBC and you're like what happened to your Chinese cousin? Oh Well, they reneged they they they quit that company and now that thing you worked on is on fucking YouTube Cuz you're a fucking moron and I need to say I'm like I've seen this from the jump, you know so and I feel the same you know a city LeMette wrote a book called making movies and

City LeMette has a ridiculous Ridiculously prolific career you look at his film and your IMDB the guy directed like 753 movies like it's so it's ridiculous He was supposed he directed me in Bronx town. It's the city of LeMette I Know CBS paid him two million dollars to do the CBS's answer my PD below. Oh, really? Oh, that doesn't surprise. Yeah. It was a New York guy. I mean, yeah, New York In 99 Sydney the react. No, I don't think I don't think it's not him. Okay. Yeah, but he

He wrote this book and he basically said Every time someone gave me an opportunity to direct a movie. I said yes Because for several reasons not the least of which you don't know when those calls are gonna stop Coming number one for him. It never did he directed to the day he died God bless him and Was doing some of his best work at the end too But he and the other thing he said was I got better at it He was every time you know every projects new so you learn something new on every project you work on

But that's the thing for I really like I'm when people like stop me It's weird in Miami, especially like people will stop me and be like are you Billy Corbin and I'll go Are you a process server? They'll say no, I'll be like then. Yes. Yes. I am and I got to have a line you know that makes them laugh, you know and and They'll go oh dude, you know, I know you're probably sick of hearing this and I'll be like Are you gonna tell me that you love my work? They're like, yeah, I love cooking I'm like, why would I ever get sick of of hearing that like what a great thing that is That's someone wants to come up to you and a stranger on the street and tell you that they love what you do

I mean, what a great what an honor that is. Well, I will never get tired of Hearing that, you know, I think that's and who knows how much longer in life, you know My grandfather, you know, it was sort of the patriarch of our of our family very successful in his time You know what one of the things he said he goes that's one of the toughest things about getting older is Becoming irrelevant, you know, he's like you he goes he ran a company He mattered to thousands of people that he you know employed He mattered to you know, it still matters to his family, of course But everything kind of revolves around you, you know, then people grow up and your grandkids have you know

Have kids and every you know, he goes in you just become a little less involved with the world day to day And the phone stops ringing, you know, like it there's not as much action You don't matter as much to as many people and and it's hard, you know to kind of make that adjustment So I love being being busy. I love having some place to go and and work to do and but I'm also developing in my late 30s This new thing, which is I think your thing, which is you know, I much rather I'd much rather be home with my family tonight Like I love that. I've never liked to be homeless, you know, I like I like being in Miami I like but I'm starting to find like at this age

It's like I'm 39 now and I'm like, you know, I'd love to do tonight Not go out and drink with friends Get home from the office as quickly as possible and hang out with my family and and I love that when that turns into A good time like you said, you don't want to leave two weeks at it, you know, I added a month, you know I think that's right. I think I'll probably getting there too. Like that's why with our projects to Lee I you know, I I I would say like well I'll take on as many projects as possible if they're Miami projects or Florida projects where offices in Miami Beach

I don't got to go nowhere, you know, like every once in a while I got to do a little she got to come out here to the song and dance, you know the racket You know, we're out here pitching and selling and selling and pitching and you know, you got to got to put your tap shoes on You know got it got to get up on the desk and shuffle step shuffle step flap heel flap heel flap heel step You know wave the the top hat and the cane around but other than that if I can be at home, I mean, I love that I got three different things. Number one. I was married once with a child the daughter and I lost it I lost that relationship. So number one now number two now I have to work harder You know years ago

I When Ralph he first got hot, you know, I would call him Tuesday. What a fuck are you and he'd go I'm tampy. I gotta do prayers for next week or whatever the fuck you would say And there's what Wednesdays Tuesdays and Thursdays, I got to stop what I'm doing at 415 Meet my wife at the house and we go pick up my daughter Or swimming and between you and I sometimes I just sit there and stare at my daughter in the pool at dance And I just dripped off my mind just drifts off, you know Another 15 minutes I get this cool this little voice inside of me that goes what the fuck are you doing here?

And then I got another voice that comes in and go if I could wake Ralphie up right now and ask him But where do you rather be and tempi on a Tuesday or watching his daughter fucking swimming? How would he do it this time? You know, that's what I think about So to me Money comes and goes money comes and goes in this life For me, I was never relevant in my 30s or my 40s. I just constantly work Now for the first time one of my 50s on selling tickets and shit like that

So I got nowhere to go like this just do you know I'm saying like for me? It's completely different I got I got so many hats in the ring right now, you know, whether it's to produce, you know Whether it's a podcast whether it's writing the book whether it's writing in a journal for my daughter It don't end all day. I could doesn't end It's it's I love people who think that you get to a certain level and Manages and agents and assistants. I wouldn't fucking want an assistant if you paid me because he can't do what I could do I know the damage I could do. I know the damage I do You know, I get up on Monday morning at 5 15. You're done

By the time you get to your office at 9, you got three emails telling you what to do today exactly to the T So there's no misunderstandings, you know, and that's the way I've always been. I'm big on Monday mornings And nobody sells you like you do. Nobody sells you. Yeah, you're not gonna have an agent who's gonna get you work. You got yeah No, and once people get that idea that concept, you know, I've seen so many people come out here I got the best agents. No, when do you go down? There's no such thing You gotta go down to the agency if you have a theatrical agent, for example What I did when I was a theatrical client like I still don't Is I'm there every three weeks for the next few years. Yep

Got no headshots. I got a new resume. Yeah, knock yourself up in the queue on their bit. Got you a cake I went to you some brownies last time I went to see a don't share him with the kids I said I went to see a I showed up with fucking yum yum donuts 36 Mexican deep-fried fucking donuts for white people in Bentley Hills Those motherfuckers were bananas Sometimes I show up with a bag of edibles every assistant gets an edible every agent gets an edible for their husband or wives or whatever You know, I never show up empty-handed, but you show up. What's the purpose of enjoying so they see you? Yeah, so you're in their fucking mind. I love I've seen people come and go in this town

I've said my agent doesn't send me out. What was the last time he took him to lunch? Well, I didn't know it was like they took him to a strip club The first thing you do an agent is take him to a strip club because now you see his vulnerabilities Now you see if he's a fucking pig or a gentleman if he comes back to you and his ties loose and his cheeks are red And he's leaking from his nose covered him covered him blood Covered him blood and he's a fucking that's the agent Joey pull the car around pull the car around pop the trunk That's the agent I want. You know I'm saying that's the guy I want I don't want the guy that says, you know, she's touched my dick and I almost had a heart attack

I'm gonna call cherry I'm gonna call terry crew. So someone was someone was told me they said what they said they said Agents are like cell phone companies. They all suck They just this there's never one bet. I wanted I want to tell you this. I don't know if I ever told you I never I don't know that ever said it publicly. So for hurricane Irma last year last September I Was in a mandatory evacuation area meaning we had no choice. We had to

Boogie pull a one-year-old daughter I mean, what are we gonna do? We got to get we got to I mean if it was just me alone or my wife We probably would have just stayed put you got to get the hell you got to get the hell out of here. So Oh, there's some dry rose. Where are we gonna go? I said Let's go to Nashville so we Flee to Nashville for Hurricane Irma last September

And I hit up Ralphie and I say we're fleeing the higher ground coming to Tennessee coming to Nashville and Ralphie says You're staying at my house. I'm like Ralphie. There's no I'd already gotten an Airbnb. I'm like row. I already paid, you know I'm like Ralphie. I'm not say he goes. I got a five bedroom. It's all child proof for my kids Like bring your mother-in-law your wife your baby. You're all I'm like Ralphie. We're not I'm like, I'll see you every day I can't while I'm there. I'm like, I'm not kind but that's the kind of guy

That he was he was in I mean it was just unbelievable And then we had plans every day and he wasn't feeling good every day We're gonna do brunch. We're gonna do this and he just wasn't feeling good, but he did his Tuesday gig He did his Tuesday gig at that club at that local club. I think I think zanies. I think you know I think he had a monthly show there. Yeah, and it was like he didn't want to let the The locals that you know, you didn't want to let the hometown crowd down And we go to see it And it's just typical like just holding court, you know for hours an hour

And just some of the best crowd work I ever saw anybody do It was funny. It was dirty. It was sweet. Some of it was sweet So there was some fsu students sitting in front who had fled for the hurricane who he bought their you know He bought their drinks. It was just like he was just you come out with us tonight We're going now we'll take you out tonight on the town, you know, you're you're a hurricane refugee They had just driven in that night. The girl was falling asleep and he was just it was just unbelievable I went backstage to see him and and he wasn't feeling good, you know, and um He says you got to come out with us. You got to come out and drink with us. My wife said, please

Don't he doesn't he looks like shit, you know, I'm afraid you're gonna catch something and then we're we're cooped up in this Airbnb apartment. I don't want the baby to get sick while we're you know refugees here and there and so I didn't go I didn't go with him that night and he wasn't well enough again to come and You know to come out after that and we went home And I don't know what was it a week or two weeks later. Not even I'm on a plane It was internet and I got and I just sat there crying I just sat there on the plane crying and crying It's like the last thing was like you come to my house. You stay with me. You stay with me

This guy's the biggest heart. It's the biggest heart. I miss him like crazy. I miss him like crazy. Let me give him a shout out real quick Paul Denver. I love you cocksucker pat costa Shane see. I'm the most pop mop Full metal Pete The sillest atomopolis my little Greek buddy Pat shea. I'll see you in tempi freddy da dial And ross vincent. Don't forget tempi tomorrow night bitches When I'm fucking around and then I'm uh, the whatever the 18th. I think I'm in providence

And that's all that but then I'm in the stress factory. So get your tickets now But I'll see you motherfuckers tomorrow night in tempi bring the reef for everything. Whatever you got at the house Grandmother's chemo tablets, whatever the fuck you got. I want you know what I'm saying? I'm in the mood I'm in the mood for a melody. I'm in the mood in the melody. I'm in the mood I tell people your story. I told you this before I but I but I it's it's important It's important to reiterate. It's like a comedy bucket list thing for me. I tell people I'm like if you have not seen Joey do the story about doing blow with his cat Live you have to like it's a thing that like it like to me. It's like a legendary

Thing that like people have to like I like I I felt like I experienced something that was like Special and you know because it's not just comedy. It's like it's theater. It's monologuing. It's like it's it's a special It's a special thing like for me. I only saw it once only saw you do that once but it was it was it's special It's like I I call it my comedy bucket list thing. It's like boom. I did that. I did that. That's amazing No, I have a great time, especially with the storytelling Now you have a new thing coming out with the cocaine cowboys Yeah, because if it ain't broke don't fix it. That's what I said I you know, I'm not a I'm not a not a one hit wonder, but I may be a one-trick pony

Let's just be real about this. But uh, no, we got a new um a new cocaine cowboys documentary. This is interesting People don't know this when we first started cocaine cowboys. It was supposed to be About willy felcone and salmogluda. They were known as the boys los machachos They were local heroes in the miami cuban community. They were the biggest Cocaine traffickers at that time. They're certainly the biggest cuban years. This was about 79 to 89 right in the the entire You know the decade was really they they were the cocaine cowboys for us and and my producing partner alfred spellman His best friend's dad was an attorney who was working on the case So they used to ride carpool while his dad if you can

Picture for a moment, uh, shan pen and carlitos way You know like this type of guy, you know yelling on the cell phone the old school, you know speakerphone and the car You know about this case and and so that was middle school and then high school. They were tried in 95 96 Uh, then there was a second trial in 01 uh, uh, 01 02 so high school college for us was willy and sal the boys Like this case the miami herald when they would do headlines about these guys or the case it would say willy and sal acquitted willy and sal charged well Just their first names dude that's what it would say in the miami herald It would just say willy and sal this willy and sal that they just knew them by the first names

I mean just miami knew them and it was an incredible story of public corruption of in addition to the you know the the normal cocaine trafficking type stuff, but this was But when we started making cocaine cowboys or wanted to do this story in like, you know, 05 04 It just wasn't right yet, you know, the a trial had just ended. No, there wasn't people who could talk It was federal court. So there wasn't a lot of access, you know, like there isn't a state court Um, and we just couldn't do it. So we so cocaine cowboys believe it or not was plan b That was our back out plan was cocaine the way we made cocaine cowboys It was supposed to be about this and then through the years as a labor of love people would reach out to us

Hey, you want to hear my story about willy and sal and we would through the years we would just start On spec we would just shoot an interview, you know, us attorney defense attorney One of the one of the uh, co-defendants who were smugglers with these guys and we just started to Just start to build this movie over like seven or eight years and it's six hours long It's called cocaine cowboys los muchachos. It's a six hour documentary series all about these guys Uh, I I think it's better than than cocaine cowboys better than the original It was what the first one was supposed to be about it's six hours You'll hopefully hopefully you'll get to binge it. You might need some you might need some tutu to get through it

But no, but it's it moves super fast like cocaine cowboys does it for a plane. Yeah, I watch those on the plane to nice long flight Yeah, that's it. Yeah, you want to watch a movie? I can't sit in my living room no more those days are done Yeah, I know You know what your phone don't ring for three days. Go to an afternoon matinee. That's that everybody wants to talk Everybody wants to call you about something they got gigs They want to break they got a movie for you jump out of a helicopter every day, you know, you go to a movie theater one Monday and tuesday, nobody'll call wednesday as soon as I sit down I'm not even biting the first fucking popcorn the phone starts ringing grudge match was on the other night

I was just on tv. I guess a couple weeks ago Whatever I said I was and there you are reading us weekly and i'm just laughing my ass off I mean you make me laugh sitting reading a fucking us Weekly magazine and that's it. That's all it took. I just started. I just started laughing my ass. I love it Wait night on tbs. Yeah a lot. I feel yeah, that's a that's a movie that should not have worked That is great. Like I went in thinking like uh, this could be a mess and it was hilarious It was a really good movie. It wasn't a good movie at all. It turned out really well, dude It turned out well. I just pissed me off because

The public didn't buy it like I bought it I bought it for once. I finally got this is gonna be a good movie. It's gonna be interesting It's gonna win the box office ate a bag of dicks Came out christmas day mainly looked like two assholes We went to christmas day with a bunch of people from the church or something like that. Yeah, come on christmas week Yeah, we went out and started limli. Yeah, we saw it lemmy like 30 other people Yeah, the church and we had a good little time, you know and uh, that was the best part about it Wasn't the premiere. It was uh that little thing we did were like

30 guys we just said show up and let's watch the movie together Not everything is a hit out of the gate But when you see the way they the replay value on that Man because because people love it because when it's it's one of those movies It's when it's when it's on you'll just sit and watch it It's just likable. It's just watchable Just watching those guys do their thing in a story that should be totally ridiculous But somehow they sell it some they sell it and they buy it and I don't know like it

It's just it's just one it's not a masterpiece. Don't get me wrong But it's just a movie that it's a simple movie with a great cast that just works And and and is it is fun to watch so why not watch it all the damn time? I do I find every time I flip through the channels and it's on I find myself sitting there watching It was a fun movie for me to shoot Like I was only there three days You know, I think I was in New Orleans for six days because I had two days off So I just did comedy I booked a local little gig. I just did comedy

They put me up at this hotel and so we and how you're uh It wasn't I don't want to say prejudice, but you programmed a certain way when I checked in they go by the way We have a restaurant here and breakfast is at six lunches at 12 and dinner is at Six or something like what are you talking about and they go you just come in and no feed you Really and I go what do they have do they have like a menu they go no It's whatever they cook And I go okay, and I went down there in the morning. It was either oatmeal or you know, I had fruit and cereal But the fucking lunch

That's what I went and I ate every meal like I was like I have to eat out Every fucking meal they had was one better than the other Yeah, they only had 60 people at the hotel. It was a tiny hotel Couple of movie a couple of the actors were there And they just served whatever was on the menu I think it was one of those things that there's no menu like tonight is steak with potatoes But just the best steak and potatoes one that I went down. I had pork chop One that I went down the guy made a meatloaf like all cajun style and shit

It was brilliant. I would have never eaten there at all. I think I I didn't I think there was one meal I didn't eat there out of the six days. I want to stay at this place. Yeah I don't know dick sounds great. When does this come out to six? That's a good question. Well, that's what we're here to find out. That's what that's what we're in la for You know, so hopefully I'll have I'll have more news on it, but it's it's looking great We're really proud of it. We really worked our asses off We basically financed the thing, you know on our own through the years You know, you work on a project you get some fees

You kind of reinvest it if you will, you know and to carry this thing because it wasn't something we could just do In one fell swoop. It was like when people became available got out of prison We're willing to sit down and you know go on camera We would just grab the inner you know, we just grabbed the interview so we could we could kind of accumulate this this content And it's just it's just wild It's just it's because it's like the trials of the cocaine cowboys these guys in their first trial They spent 24 million dollars cash on their defense So forget oj. These guys had a dream team. They they had john goddy's lawyer. They had roy black. They had

You know, al kreger. They had a dream team like you could not believe and they had an army of Paralegals because these guys were put in solitary confinement because they knew everybody in town everybody Salma gluta was like the godfather the cuban, you know, awolita would come and say I can't make my rent He'd hand her a stack of cash say pay rent for the year pay your mortgage You come my daughter got into university of miami, but I can't afford the tuition Here's the tour. Here's the money like he was that kind of figure and he was beloved He bought a lot of loyalty and a lot of friends in you know, little havanna hyalia You know, sweet water

those predominantly cuban communities exile communities and It's like a cuban crime saga, you know, his father was indicted his his son was indicted And they 24 million dollars are these paralegals So it's like so they're in solitary confinement because they don't want them corrupt They kept getting caught with cell phones and you know, various things that you're not a contraband and what have so they That that means they you know didn't have any Contact with the outside world but to prepare for trial you're allowed to sit with your attorneys all day long, right?

So they pay these women Who would go to paralegal school or whatever the hell you need to get your certification or whatever? And these women would be paid to come to the prison pull them out of The cell of the cell for six seven eight nine out all day if necessary They could talk on the phone. They would eat lobster or whatever they brought in Spoiler alert one of the paralegals gets pregnant If you can believe that just one Just just one that we know that we know of gets pregnant

Um, I mean these guys had some pretty insane adventures and then it comes down to this This is the most expensive Uh prosecution in the history drug prosecution in the history of the FETS This was a 75 tons of cocaine was the indictment and over two and a half billion dollars Is what is what they estimated the uh, they they conservatively estimated the operation uh at and these guys were also World champion offshore power boat racers So this is classic Miami vice shit in the go fast cigarette boats and the donsies and everything these guys are out there on ESPN on usa network

Live on tv. They're they're internationally recognized champions sportsmen. Okay, and smuggling 75 tons modestly modestly of cocaine How do they know sal kept ledgers he kept ledgers of every kilo of every dime of every dollar So that's how they were able to put this case together. Um What winds up happening is Comes down to it. They have 20 they have like 26 cooperating witnesses. They have this epic case most expensive case biggest cocaine case in federal government history The jury goes out Comes back

Not guilty not guilty not guilty not guilty not guilty everybody in town knew who these guys were and what they were doing not guilty What happens not one not two At least three jurors were paid off The tentacles that these guys had in the community the routes they had they could reach out and touch Three jurors and pay them including the foreman Who was a who was a baggage handler at miami international airport? Okay baggage supervisor this guy starts running around with a Rolex a new boat goes to the Bahamas

The feds are like the fuck's this guy running around doing over here Turns out he got paid uh by by by uh by some by some shady characters, uh And the next thing you know the u.s. Attorney the main guy in the southern district of florida Kendall coffee is his name. You see him sometimes on cnn as a talking head of pundit, right? This guy is so upset about this win. I mean this loss They don't know that they got screwed with this jury yet But literally like the night or two after the the acquittal. He gets so upset. He goes to uh club lipstick on south dixie

Let's call it a gentleman's club shall we club lipstick? All right on us one in uh south miami He uses his company card, which means his u.s. Attorney mx card to buy a magnum of champagne winds up getting a private dance And biting the stripper. He is drunk off his ass. He gra- he bites her So here's what happens the next the next day this u.s. Attorney his dad goes to the club And wants to pay cash to buy the receipt back meaning like credit the card back and let me pay you cash for And they're like get out of here with that and the bouncer who it turns out is the boyfriend of the stripper that he bit Sees this this guy coming in trying to buy the receipt thinking who is this like what what's going on here?

Is this some vip what he reports it next thing? You know guy resigns like this is some classic carol hyacin only in miami kind of shit A guy resigns guys whole career is over and the next thing you know You find out they bought off the jury there were witnesses that were murdered There was an attorney that was murdered and they start putting together the second case the second round That's why this thing is six hours. It's just like it's just and it and it helped to it basically Subsidize the entire criminal defense bar of miami because there were so many defendants and so many cooperating witnesses And so many they called them satellite cases and there was murder cases and there was money laundering cases

And there was jury tampering cases that so every every attorney almost in every attorney in miami at that time Had some case or had it was making a living in some way or another off of a williamsal case or satellite case I don't think there's ever been maybe the watergate scandal in dc where more attorneys were involved with more defendants that it just seemed to To literally finance the whole criminal defense bar in one town And and here like you go. We're 20 years later um From the from the second case from the last case and there's still lawyers working in various cases just this week There was a fugitive in the case they call them the medias dubbed them the last of the cocaine cowboys

This is gustavo falcone willy falcone's brother This guy on the oh so all their buddies I mean everybody they know is getting subpoenaed into a grand jury So they know there's going to be some secret, you know some sealed indictment and you know, you know, what's happening You know, I mean you can see the writing on the wall. So this guy His wife his son and his daughter they were like nine and ten years old about that they disappear Just before the indictments come down and everybody gets raided and busted and and shackled

This guy disappears with his wife and two children little children And they're gone for 26 years Remarkable and they just disappear for 26 years. Guy was on america's most wanted three times He was he was he and osama bin laden were on on the fbi top 10 list at various times together Just last year the guy is living in a rental house Near eppcott in orlando florida kassimi florida A guy gets busted they catch him after 26 years and I'm just three days ago He pled guilty and was sentenced and the judge said

You know, I Life on the lamb is tough, you know, because he threw himself in the mercy of the court. He said that was no kind of life I was in a prison of my own making for 26 years, you know nearly ruined my my children's lives They're in their 30s now. They never got to move out of the house You know, they never got to go on the grid get drivers license have a normal life He's like and the judge was it was cool. The judge was sympathetic and and said, listen, you gotta you pled guilty You gotta pay your debts to society. I wish I could give you less time But this is so much cocaine

it's just So much cocaine he repeated it twice game 11 years game 11 years And it's a case that keeps going it just keeps going willy falcone did 20 years got out ice took him put him in immigration prison in Louisiana not I'll tell you he's not staying at your hotel with the good food I'll tell you with the good eats he's staying in some immigration, you know some some ice hellhole This was just last year. They released him from prison last year ice took him With an immigration hold. Here's the thing. He's cuban never became a citizen a u.s. citizen, but he's cuban So the judge ordered him deported the problem is the relationship with cuba as you know, uh, you know, the

There's some animus there, you know with the obama administration You know datan's brought a you know a little more cooperation But now it's been a little bit of a rollback and so no one's sure if cuba will agree to take the guy or not So now he's in this sort of like purgatory in this sort of limbo and no one knows what's going to happen And where's the other guy sal decided to go to trial willy pled Uh, the government had a very sophisticated divide and conquer kind of uh, uh approach to them Um, they had charged sal with money laundering witness uh, uh the witness murders

and uh jury tampering jury bribery Willie they just charged. They only had enough evidence. They felt to prove money laundering They didn't have him. They felt on the the jury bribery or the witness murders So here's the problem. You know how this goes You got two guys sitting next to each other one co-defendant charged with murder The other one not charged with murder You got to take your chances with these 12 people who are going to sort it out and and you know and and and and

Try to distinguish between this guy So will he cut his losses pled guilty to the money laundering took a 20 year plea Sal decided to go to trial Got acquitted of the witness murders Got acquitted of the jury bribery And got acquitted of the cash money laundering He got convicted of writing eight checks on a televieve bank to his attorneys

He was convicted of money laundering for paying his attorneys with these checks with these eight checks Judge sentenced him to 200 years in prison So the same stuff that his partner had pled guilty to got 20 years He pled guilty got 200 years. Praise god. They got this thing. They call um acquitted conduct where the judge for whatever reason is allowed to consider for the purpose of sentencing Acquitted conduct meaning even though he was acquitted of the murders The judge for this for the purpose of sentencing could consider the other charges that he was acquitted of

Which sounds to me like a quasi constitutional kind of a thing It's like ultimately you get 200 years in prison for eight checks that you wrote to your attorney You know, I mean, it's a it's like an al Capone thing, you know, they got him but they got him, you know creatively Let's shut shall we say so it's a crazy story that you know, we were in a pitch meeting yesterday and someone said So when does the story end like when does it come up to I said? April 27th 2018 I'm like it's still going on as we speak this camp like it should end with us here in the room pitching it to you You buy it and then they could start over and re-binge from episode one again. It just goes in a circle, you know

It's a crazy story that just keeps going on and it's a story that if you Live to Miami or grew up in Miami in through the 90s and the zeros it was front page. Yeah, it was this was like our oj This was a big This was a big fucking story And this was the story of the cocaine cowboys that we always wanted to tell and never had a chance to until now And no idea when it's coming up. No idea. I I i'm gonna no no i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna say definitely 2019 I i'm hoping earlier than lay probably mid. So probably about a year I'd say about a year from now six hours a lot of content a lot a lot a lot of show

Yeah, a lot of content. Yeah always a pleasure, brother Always a pleasure having you. I'm happy you came to town. I miss you. You look great. I'm trying you look great I walked in the door. I was like who the hell is that skinny so sexy son of a bitch over there You look great 60 pounds to lose. All right Hopefully hopefully we're giving it a fucking uh that old fucking tribe, man But i'm happy you came in and said hello and I miss you miss you too once home. That opens up I'll be back down there. Is that the that's the club? Yeah, well what what well because the hard rock, you know shut down and they're they're gutted at everything

You should see they're building this fucking hotel like a guitar. Yeah, they're like halfway that you can see it from the turnpike You're like what the it's amazing. Yeah, I mean the thing looks It looks like they're building a fucking spaceship or an art 2021 or something. I don't know It's such a bummer now. We got to schlep up the palm beach to the improv and there is no Comedy club and there's there's there's cool rooms. There's little venues, but there is no Comedy club right now basically in you know in several counties. There's one in bokeh I think they got going on. It's but yeah, I got to go to palm beach, you know Palm beach. Yeah, you should come down. You should do Shirley's. There's this little great little barn windwood gramps

It's amazing just it's just where is it on the wall right in windwood, you know, it's called gramps Downtown Miami. Oh, downtown Miami is like I mean it's like 10 blocks 10 blocks north of downtown Miami right like 23rd street 24th street um, and uh A few weeks before Hannibal Burris went to Philly and you know and made some Some cell phone recorded remarks about the one dr. Uh, Cosby He was in the room at Shirley's trying out that material And I swear to god, you know, I'm a comedy group. I'm a degenerate comedy fan And um, I watched carlin bomb in fucking Vegas in 2000 2000 white was crazy. I mean, I you know, I love comedy and um

I'm sitting there and Hannibal's starts riffing on Cosby doing the same shit. He wound up doing weeks later in Philly and My buddy adam and I who owns the bar We're sitting there pack house because Hannibal pops, you know, I don't know where it shows up We just tweet about it and boom the place is fucking slammed right great room little room And he's he starts doing this Cosby dead silence in the audience because nobody knows what the hell he's talking about I lived out here in the 90s His reputation was very well known Out here no one knew about you know, say the quailudes or whatever the roofy business or whatever it was

But everybody knew the guy was a lech like it was very well And if I knew about it as a kid in la in the 90s, then everybody Oh, I heard about it. Oh, yeah, everybody knew like people would I heard stories from actresses and people I heard stories all the time about Cosby. So I knew all about it. I had known about the accusers in the past and everything Adam and I are hysterically laughing. We think this is brilliant, right? And nobody in the audience because we're all a bunch of kids, you know, they don't know what the hell he's talking about, you know

And we were the only two motherfuckers laughing on Hannibal kind of looked at as an audit and us because we were the only people laughing Later we're at the bar. It's a crazy night. By the way, there's a picture of me adam Hannibal Burris and phil Collins At this club. That's how crazy and miami this shit is, right? It's like, I can feel it coming in the air tonight, baby So this how so I'm at the bar and I'm this drunk asshole now, you know, hanging on Hannibal going I just want to tell you That Cosby shit Is so brilliant. I'm like never stop doing that because it's not only funny. It's true. It's important

It's like my twitter feed. It's like it's like it's important Like people got to know about this because you can see from the crowd's reaction. Nobody knows about this I'm like, you gotta come that asshole like you you keep doing what you're doing. I'm like, it's I'm telling like this is It's funny, but it's important people gotta you gotta spread the word and he's looking at me like this Get get away from me. You drunk schmuck, you know, like I'll be damned not two weeks later Not two weeks later. I call up adam. I'm like, you see this shit this video like that was the shit Hannibal was trying out here I told him you better keep doing that shit. I'm like you listen to me

You know, it's crazy that you yeah, they when Cosby got convicted. I was like, this is fucking crazy This is really crazy. They all knew They all knew NBC knew they all knew for years. They might have they might listen. I knew I knew I had the I doubted. I know I was 12 years old or They fucking knew they knew they're greasy motherfuckers They're a bunch of pedophile cucks NBC stood for network and Bill Cosby for a while. I mean he built he helped build that house with garson There was a few guys, you know in that in that era who built the modern

They yanked off his reruns. That's it. Yeah, sure. Yeah, everybody's fucking dumb It's a bummer if you're an actor on that show you used to get you know, those residuals. Yeah, that's a bum I feel bad. I feel bad for those other actors. You're done. Yeah. What are you gonna do? Blue apron is the leading milky delivery service in the u.s So how many people know what we do? Many don't know about the types of meals you eat when you cook with blue apron You just not having burgers for dinner like some schmuck You're making short rib burgers with hoppy cheddar sauce on a pretzel bun. You're preparing seared steaks

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