Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #604 - Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt
Episode Date: July 30, 2018Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt talk about what it's like to be on the road as a young comedian, why what he did between 1995 - 2000 is so important to where he is now, and why it's so important to "check in...." This podcast is brought to you by: FujiSports.com - Use promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount on all the best jiu jitsu and martial arts gear.  Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.  Recorded live on 07/29/2018.

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Well, Joey here first off if you came to any of the shows at wise guys this weekend in Salt Lake City
I applaud you that were great fucking shows because of you guys and number two. I'm back. You notice if you came to the shows
I'm fucking back. There's no more fucking safety nets. There's no more nothing
I'm back out of my fucking coma that I was in for six months, but I want to thank the club
I want to thank Keith and I want to thank the fucking great weight staff
One of the hottest fucking weight staff of women in the country even even Kate Quigley on the way out
She goes those fucking girls
With row and heat, but they were great
There was no problems last night some guy punched the host's chicken the face
What and then the guy had a fucking choke him off the other comedian big props to him
Choked the guy out to the cops got that there's always some type of church drama always some fucking guy comes in confused
But anyway, it was a great show
Great fucking show great weekend. I applaud you guys and I'm just happy to say I'm back guys
And I'm basically back because of you guys because I thought about that
I was just cheating you guys lately like I just been trying to be so plain safe and I'm worried about the audience
I went out there with stories. I haven't talked about in fucking 30 years. Oh, really? Oh, wow
Yeah, I don't give a fucking anymore because I was thinking about where I started doing comedy
Okay, and I always tell people that it was in prison. No, it wasn't it was the number one bus from Jersey City
To fucking nungasses our job was to make the bus driver pull over and quit
That was our job on a fucking daily like for him to pull over and go knock it off guys
We would ring the buzzes. We would yell at people. We would shoot fucking spitballs at people
We would come go on the bus and open up with the fucking opening theme from the odd couple
Right off the bat, but what people didn't know was in Jersey City at the time
There was a methadone clinic and that's where you go to get off heroin and it gives you the same symptoms as heroin
So people would get on the bus in Jersey City and then we get on the bus on 38th Street
And they'd be nodding on the heroin with drool on their lip
Onto the newspaper fucking hilarious. You can't even write this shit
And you would mess with them all of us we would get on the bus and we just start giggling and shit
And then the guy would look at us and like go can't you see I'm trying to read the paper
But one time I went on one of those buses and I farted
Oh, and I walked the guy up the guy opened his eyes like he saw a drag
He's like man, who farted he goes this smell like something crawled up somebody's ass and died something we fucking died
What do you I've seen people on heroin like fall asleep in the middle of a street
You're saying you're fart woke one of them up one of them up that was nodding
You know the benches of the sideways, right?
Like he was sitting on that bench in the back of the bus fucking nodding off and we were crossing and giggling at him
And he wouldn't wake up and I finally dropped a bomb on him
He fucking opened up his eyes really slowly. I'll never forget that like he looked around like where he was
And he's like what the fuck is that smell?
Then that's when he know you were having issues. Yeah, so I was just thinking about like
You know, I'm you're in the green room and you're sitting there and you have like this list in your head
That you're gonna say and all of a sudden that thought came into my mind
And I said just went up on stage and ran with it
Then the one night another I was talking to Keith the club owner and me and Keith have been on the road together
Since 1990 fucking always be a comic. Yeah, he's still a comic. He's a great comic
He's just a clean comic and he does corporates
But Keith's a great guy and we're talking about a contest we did in 94
That's where I saw Bill Cosby that's when he said that not to do dirty comedy that Eddie Murphy
That was the time we're talking about that but we were talking about the room in Salem that the time I went and I told
I go Salem was one of the best nights of my life. I get there to the hotel with Jody
This girl she's featuring her for me and her father her father lived in Corvallis
So we stopped and picked them up so he could watch his daughter perform and he wanted to go out and drink with us
We get to the hotel he gets his own hotel room. She gets her own hotel room
I got my own hotel room. We walk in and I swear to God, there's gotta be 300 fucking kids with balloons
It's the national remember I told you remember when we were talking about Jody, I don't remember this one
Yeah, what are those kids that special Olympics? Oh, no when she went dancing
Balloons, oh, yeah, and we checked in and we're like wow these kids got balloons for special
Shit, you know, it wasn't there like I didn't even think about in a bad way till that night
Jody because no those towns when you do some Lee and I were just talking about one year
Please don't have to go on the rail if Lee really wants to do comedy
Now comes the second part of this phase
Like I was thinking what I'm doing today is because of what I did 90
Like is that the weirdest thing? It's not because of what I did from 2000 to 2010
That's not why I'm doing as well as I'm doing as well as I'm doing today
As a comedian like as a comedian as the art
I'm doing well as a comedian not because what I did from 2000 to 2010 at the comedy store that honed the art
It was what I did between 95 and 2000
Which was I threw myself across the country into the different markets and I adjusted my act to those markets
And there's some markets that you just can't adjust your act to and I mean you just can't I mean you just can't
They just and in the back of your head. You're so inexperienced that you really don't see it's not a knock against you
It was a knock against me. I had the same problem like after I went to Nashville
I knew never to go back to the Bible Belt
Like you ten years ago you come to me you go Joe. I got a room for you in Alabama. Listen, bro
No, matter how hungry I am. I'm not taking that gig because I tell you what I'm just I'm not flying across country to bomb
There was a period that there was a period where I bomb in the south and
I don't not in the south but in the upper south not in Texas
But it's like the Bible Belt south
I bought and then I had this other thing to do comedy in front of people with white hair
So if I looked out the curtain and I saw somebody with white hair, I would fucking panic and eat a big dick on stage. I
Had to get over that, you know, I got over that
Like going to all those fucking towns where there's a lot of old people that shows so but what you're saying when you
Are saying but so between 90 and 95 or 95 and 2000. I'm sorry. Did you go there knowing you were gonna bomb?
I went there
Thinking about the glamour of comedy getting the cold reality of what it really was
Right. That's yeah, exactly like preparing me for what it really was like you have to eat this five
But years of dick like it was five years of rough dick like when the muck of Nevada, you know
Billings month. I'm not saying these towns are bad in any way. I'm just saying that 30 years ago, you know a town
Butte
Butte Montana was I don't know what the population is today
But it wasn't that 20 years ago and a guy like me going up on stage talking about eating pussy
Didn't do well as a fucking feature act in none of those towns
Whether it was bup Montana, whether it was somewhere in fucking
Utah whether it was Ogden, Utah and me eating a bag of dicks there. So you have to learn all these markets
You know, you have to go to all these places
You have to go by the Canadian border up in North Dakota and South Dakota and see how you do there and they eat this fish called walleye
Okay, I've heard of like salmon like it's hot. It's a fish that they eat up there
These people up by it like the Dakotas and many but a soda and all that. It's just weird
You learn that traditions, you know, I still remember going to each by me up in the up in northern Michigan
You know, there's an island called Traverse City up there
You know, like I did the festival of cherries. I did gay pride in Michigan like who would look at me for gay pride in
19 no in 2001 I did gay pride and Grand Rapids or something like that for 1500 bucks
Like I went out there
I got on a bus and just there's a part in comedy where you have to really and I told you this that this prepare yourself for this
I don't see you preparing yourself for this
That for you to really dive in you have to dive it
It's a very tough dive
Most people don't believe in the dive and you have to consume yourself with this you have to get your car
Get it ready
Learn how to get work on the road calling small bookers getting small bookers getting a headshot
Getting a 10-minute tape, you know, I should I thought I thought I was too young for that right now
Right now you're too young. This is what you have to start thinking about in a year
Okay, in a year when you're doing comedy 18 months, you're at a precipice if you've really fucking done comedy
If you really really really in your heart have gone out there every night and done comedy at the two-year mark
You really start to think of where this is going
Why am I doing this? I'm not making any real fucking money. My mother's mad at me
My girlfriend doesn't like when I leave the house at night
There's so many fucking things that and those are the years that toughen you up and
You're not gonna like what you got to do
You know, you're not gonna like eating six no-doses and drinking a fucking gallon of diet Mountain Dew
So you could drive all night to get back here to do the podcast Sunday at eight o'clock with no sleep
Right, like it's that type of shit
Like I would drive all night to pick my daughter up on Sunday at two in the afternoon
Right, like who wants to drive all night to see their fucking kid after you haven't seen them all week
Like that's the situations. That's the sacrifice that
You know goes with all this. I'm not when I get a check in the mail now
I don't look at it and go who I'm getting away with murder. No, I did my fucking work
Right because I even called you because I had to take a quick ride at this weekend
And we're only four and a half five hours tops even with stops and I like it
I like driving that that's not the problem. But the problem is the thing the thing that I was blown away by was
Then you have to get up and do comedy
It's not like you get there the day before and you get to chill out
It's like you just eight hours of driving when we talk about those triple runs, which people are notorious like him
Keith and I spoke about the owner of wise guys and got a great guy
we spoke about
How today, you know, he's like what you're doing out there is because of what you did
He was do you imagine that I go I
Never looked at it that way that it really is like going to a job and punching it
Like even if you get $10 for a gig and they make you do 30 minutes and you know, you're getting robbed
That's part of the fucking gig. You know, you know, how many towns you go to and
Let's say you have a gig and you're getting 75 dollars at that gig. Well, the fucking MC
Also has a rock club at midnight and he'll pay you 25 bucks. Oh shit, okay
You could sleep there if you want on the bar if I mean, that's just so many things
But you're not gonna know it unless you go out there
It goes back to me to put in your hands in the universe and go and I'm doing this
I'm doing this in some way or another the universe is gonna take care of it
And weird things starts happening and you go fuck
You know weird things start to happen. You got a flat tire
You change it. Of course, you're 65 dollars because you got a towed a car
but then you go to a town and
You have a three-day night to wait between
Gigs right and you're looking at a $60 a night hotel that people have gotten stabbed down the overview and
The electric goes out and you can hear the mice at night, but the first night at the club
The owner of the club went to emerson
And he's got a house with a basement
You know I'm saying and now it's a Sunday and instead of you being in a shitty fucking hotel room
You're actually at somebody's basement with three other guys from emerson
That are older than you and they're talking about football and they're from Boston
And you're like look at this shit. Am I the luckiest guy in the world? I'm saving 60 bucks a night
It's like being with Geico
It's like being with fucking Geico. You're like, I'm saving 60 bucks tonight and these guys
I'm not sitting in a whole car. No, this doesn't happen every week
This doesn't happen every week, but it doesn't happen unless you try
Unless you're okay, and it's crazy to me because I think a lot of people like I remember when I first took my first business trip
I was so excited. I felt like a real adult, but I got a hotel room
There's not many jobs that would tell you hey, you have to come out of town for this
But you're responsible to pay to get here and we're not gonna put you up
No, and but that's why you get yourself a car you get that like when I committed to it in 1995
But I knew I had nothing else going on
Nothing else. I failed at marriage. I had failed at life. I'd been to prison. I couldn't get off. I had come to
An agreement with myself about my drug addiction
But I knew that I wasn't gonna succeed in anything else. This was the only shot I had
$75 a night
times five
It's 375 a week guys
If it was to drive around
Not have a responsibility have a pager live in my car and go for whatever dream I had at the time
That 375 was worth it believe it or not
and that includes gas and
In those days they wouldn't give you a hotel
But you still had to cover those three nights that you didn't
Like a lot of rooms a lot of nights you go somewhere. It's a Tuesday, but Wednesday's open
But hopefully you meet a dude on Tuesday that says hey, man
Tomorrow that I'm looking for a feature 50 bucks
What do you ever like try to get a gig like even if you didn't mean anybody would you go to a bar and be like
Hey, can I do comedy here and take the nothing you wouldn't do that?
You know, they're not that embarrassing. Okay, they might throw you the fuck out
But I'm saying you go to do comedy at a bar, right? Okay, and that comic that host there. He's the radio guy
And he'll tell you come back in two weeks and I'll give you another gig, but you didn't know that until you went there
That's they're not gonna tell you that on the web page and I'm gonna tell you that, you know, there's a comic in town. I
Can't remember his name. He has a book of that he sells to other comics
With names of bookers across the country. Oh, wow, that's smart
And I always felt kind of weird about it because that you know, they come and go, right bookers come and go
But a market you don't really know a market until you go into that market
You follow me. So you this is how it starts. You'll be at
You go to one of your open mics at Altadena, whatever the fuck you do. What's the white water college? Oh, yeah
You go to go to like the library and there's a dude there from Indiana
And he knows you from the podcast and he starts talking to him. He has
30 minutes and his home club is whatever the club is in Indiana
And he'll tell you leave you ever want to come out dog. I'll get your fucking MC week
Pace 300 bucks. You get yourself out there 300 bucks ain't shit
But when you go out there Lee, you're gonna MC you're gonna get the 300 bucks, but it's an investment
You're gonna meet people
One comic's gonna take you out. You're not gonna sit in your room
You're gonna go out and after every show in those small cities. They have another comedy show somewhere
And the guy will give you his phone number to go next time you come back call me and I got a
Out of Sunday night and a casino and I got a Thursday night gig which picks you up an extra hundred
Right. Oh, yeah, it's so now next time you come you get a raise and you get money from the back end on the front
It's very interesting
But the same applies to any job any anything that you want to do with your life
You're not gonna know it's there until you go there
Right, it's like trying to find an apartment in that like if you're trying to move to LA and we're just looking online for apartments
You wouldn't know you're not gonna find an apartment cities. You got to get in a car and drive around
And LA you don't know what you're looking for, right?
My wife found the house down the block from here while going to look at another house
She parked over here, yeah, and she walked and when she walked back
The lady said I'm renting up here and this is why we're sitting in this office
My wife came to look at something else
So nothing you never know where you're going until you get there
That's the beauty of this. I want to cover something tonight. It's a Monday morning podcast a live podcast
We got a great fucking week. We got a great lineup in August
But I want to talk to you guys about some cuz I'm gonna get a lot of emails late
I didn't know how this started or how this ended. I
Got a bunch of emails. I guess when Co was on Rogan's podcast not last time or the time before
They had a conversation about me checking it
Okay, you're on the phone they're checking with the O and I check it with Joe and Joe said yeah
Joe is one of the guys that does that and I've been getting a lot of emails about it and it's like I
Don't know it seems
Like people are blown away by it. I don't I mean it's something that I've been I've noticed for years and then it's
The other night when I
We might have taken mushrooms
I texted my best friend from high school and I went to I was in his wedding, but we talked probably three times a year
It's not like I don't like most of your it's a very rare thing these days
Even even my parents used to do it when I was growing up, but now I don't think they do it as much. What's that?
Talk with each other. It's they with Facebook and all that. That's what it's turned into. It's just no, but I mean I
Had this thing going from as a youngster
You just learn to check it
People tell you when you're a kid a check-in tomorrow and
Check-in means swing by say hello
Let me know if you're eating. Let me know if you need something. That's what that means check in tomorrow check it check in check in
you know and
The problem is the reason why I check in with people and then I'm one reason is
And especially I learned it from doing comedy
I learned it from being a salesman
that
You ever get calls from people and they only call you when they need something all the time. Yeah, I'm guilty of it, too
It sucks. Yeah, it's really nice to get a call from somebody that just says hello
Wait till you become a full-fledged feature act
And you just call a booker to just say hey Matt
Last time I worked at your club. I had a great time
Thank you or you become friends with them
You start calling them and you don't ask them for work
And it's like a hooker
That you don't ask to fuck
It drives them crazy
Because everyone else in the world is doing that everybody calls them for work. I
Would call bookers to say hello
How you doing man?
Hope you well you watch the Lakers last week. We fucked up the fucking Rockets cock sucker, didn't we?
You know and they would they would get off the phone and then when Rogan would headline their club, they would say something to Joe
Joey Diaz calls me
They ain't even looking for
Were you hoping that they'd call you eventually or no, no, no, no, no, I had already gotten work from them, right?
I had already them in the bag
It would I always just thought that as a booker
Even as a comic you you get to feel like a whore people just call you when they need some it's very like I became like
Okay, the guy who really started me in this comedy thing here was a guy with the name of Dan and he ran the Braya
Improv I remember Daniel and was my motherfuckers motherfucker Dan called me
This is when two people fucking liked me in this town Joe Rogan and fucking Dan
Dan ran the Braya Improv and he told me I want to bring you down here just for you to make me fucking laugh
And one day Dan called me when I was down and out in Beverly Hills guys. I mean down and out
And he was listen man. I'm trying to start this new thing. You kind of used to be Tuesday through Sunday in this town
So take Monday off. Yeah, so Monday you would fly back basically on Monday morning
Land at 11 that to your house do laundry
Feed your dogs
Go eat lunch and go pay your age in the commission and Tuesday morning. You'd be back at the airport
And you'd be at an improv on a Tuesday you had a show on Tuesday Wednesday Thursday were the bigger
Oh, he was doing this too. Yeah, two Friday to Saturday and one Sunday
This was it and then the big names backed up to Thursday through Saturday. Got it. That was a while. There was a time
I remember doing
Two shows a night were Richard Johnny selling out Miami every fucking night to not to and then three on Saturday
He walked out of there with a hundred and
Forty thousand dollars. This is this had to be God rest his soul. This had to be
1998 he gave me a thousand dollar tip. I thought I was gonna fucking die
Nobody had ever given me a tip
And I realized then later somebody said he walked with a hundred and forty thousand dollars. It was
two four six
eight
11 13 shows
That's almost 10,000 something like that. He walked out of there. Wow
Like he just destroyed him for a week like something crazy back then which I think that's what it was
Maybe 15 grand the show. I don't know exactly
But you know, that's a long week
And he would come up with an hour and a half every night and he'd switch up a half hour every night
He was fucking brilliantly. How often would he do that? Would he do that every week?
He would do that at the time Richard Jenny was working pretty much three and a half weeks a month
He was doing cruise ships for big money
Like back then he would go on a cruise ship, but he was getting huge paychecks
Like it was crazy, but he wasn't really happy
I remember talking to him at the at the news cafe in coconut grove
The old we used to go there for breakfast deliciously
They give you a baguette and cut it up for breakfast and I dip it in that fucking yogurt butter
That's how I got the way 400 pounds of fucking so anyway, and I remember talking to him. He wasn't happy about
You know the stand-up like that at that time stand-up was booming like there was it was every fucking
I would go to Miami for three weeks in a row as a feature act
Do you think the internet almost kind of ruined it because now people have stuff to do at home?
Is that like what the job? Hey, listen people people are still coming out
Right. Yeah comedy, you know people are still coming out for comedy, but back back to this check on anything because it really it really
Baffled me that people didn't believe in it and that people had never heard of it before I
listen I
Check in in the mornings
What a rotation?
Okay, I have a rotation of Timmy Holloway George Kolodinsky
Jimmy V
My friend the fucking senator veneri
Loops
You know so I have a rotation there. I have my old Colorado rotation
Mike Kessler
You know, Ladizio, I got a bunch of people that I still talked to
That just we just still talk and we talk about the weirdest stuff and we get off the phone
You know, I still talk to Dominic
No, who called into the show. I just talked to him two days ago on the road
The cop that called him from the FBI. Wow, I become friends with people. It's really weird how
You know
Well, have you ever asked them like but there's like I'm trying to call Bob LaLingus for a week
And I always forget Chicago time
Oh
And I knew he was on vacation last week, you know, I talked to Bobby Sharon called
I owe him a fucking call, you know, you always try to
The weekends are rough because you're on the road
The weekends are rough because you're on the fucking road and after time for some reason like sometimes they'll say one missed call
So I just think Lee called and then two days later
I'll see that Lee called I missed a call from you and I missed a call from somebody else
But it just says one missed call. Oh, we're
Is it but what I was I was wondering is like
Have you ever talked with George or Timmy or any of them and said do you guys keep in touch with all?
Yeah, Jimmy talks to a lot of people tell me we all came from that cut Wow, we all came from that cut
You know, you have to work on friendship
That's what people really never really understood. Everybody always looks for 20 friends
You know, you have to work on your friendship. It's the same way you have to work on your marriage a couple weeks ago
I went on the road to Vegas
And that's why I tell people all the time, you know what man, we all have skeletons in the closet
You got to check on them from time to time. Maybe once in a while you got to take a skeleton out and
Break that skeleton down
You know I'm saying it was 20 years ago
It's time for you to take that skeleton down and
pour some fucking lime on it and figure out what really happened and
The week that I was at Vegas for some reason I was writing I was just writing freestyle for the book
I was trying to put something together and I really really really thought about the situation with my ex-wife
It was really weird. It was like going from A to Z
I don't know if you've ever been there that you're thinking about sports and
Next thing you think you're thinking about your girlfriend in high school about something happening you go into an event
And I just thought about and I told you guys that I told you guys a comment last week that
There's a few people who saw me at my worst and she was one of them
You know like you really don't know anybody till you see them at their worst
That's when you really get to see
What a person is about and she got the fucking beauty to see me at my worst
Well, that was at the worst human being I could possibly be a couple other people saw me that I still talked to
But she was one of those people that saw I
Mean she saw it from the inside out
She saw six years of it that I'm not too proud of and whatever so for some reason I was I
Had I was writing in the iPad like the book like just
And I ripped out my notebook and now I have a notebook where I write daily stuff and like what's on my mind
And I went to a chapter that had been on thing and I wrote her a letter
Well as weekend or a couple weeks ago, yeah couple weeks ago, I wrote her a letter man like apologizing for my behavior and just
For the things that I just it just in guys. Let me tell you some
You see a commercial about
OCD and you see the lady making a bunch of sandwiches. No, I haven't seen that one yet
There's a stupid commercial about some how do you control your OCD and how you see this girl cutting up fucking
Lettuce and she's cutting up a fucking tomato and also she makes like 52 fucking sandwiches, you know, because she's obsessed with this thing
it was like the
The apology was coming out of me and it was like I couldn't control my hand. I was writing it out
You know, and I wrote all the bad things I had done in front of her
the drugs that
Just the tortious things that I had done, you know, and and there's times I sit here and I say, you know what?
I want to kill her for what she did
You know what man after two weeks ago, I realized she had every right to do what she did because she saw me at my worst and
It takes a lot for somebody to say that that she saw me at my worst
I mean
What's my worst shackled in a fucking jail cell to fucking 20 other guys shackled by my ankles and my wrists
Connected by a chain. That's the worst, you know, what's the worst seeing me in a room?
After I haven't gone out for three days doing cocaine
And my hair is greasy. I can't imagine myself with greasy hair
She saw me with oil in my hair after three days, you know shit like that, you know, she saw me one day after court
Yell things to her that no man would ever say to somebody. I said the worst things
It was like the worst day. It was like
All the shit I had in me for more those years of suffering from my mom
I unloaded on her in front of her husband or at that time her boyfriend and the detective
That had arrested me on the kidnapping thing because he had she had called him up for him to like help her testify
And how bad of a person I was and she was that but it was so funny that I
It was like a four-page letter
And he just brought it I we didn't plan on writing this happened no front and back I apologized for everything I did
Front and back. I fucking went downstairs. I got an envelope. Oh, you sent it. No, I didn't send it
Okay, I fucking wrote it and then I went outside that day and I smoked a joint and let the fucking thing on fire
Oh shit, and that was it. But at least I got it out of me. I
Put it on the universe. I got it out of me
You know, it was something I've been eating away at me for fucking 20
since 1990
Four have you written letters before I always write letters Lee
I love writing
I love my iPad
But I love the art and the gift of writing
When I write and I write freestyle like that and I tell you that
This notebook not this particular one in front of me
But the notebooks of my house have been my psychiatrist
The notebooks of my house of my psychiatrist
For some people people always say, oh, wow
You're psychiatrists when you go up on stage and talk and tell the audience. No, it isn't
It's the shit I write down
Because I've written down everything I've written down everything
It's the weirdest fuck it's like that way. That's what happened that day with
How I got to my wife
I was writing about
I got
I pick a subject
And I just went off on a tangent to something
I we had had a podcast one day and I went off on drugs and a couple people got mad at me
Because I went down to foxhole with cocaine and then I went home and I actually drew uh, like not that that day
Like a couple weeks later after I thought what I had done when I was in vegas
I was thinking about that. I was thinking about something she said to me when I called her
four years ago three years ago to ask
for her to call my daughter back
And she goes I told her the effects of drugs and all this stuff
And I kind of batted it off like uh, here we go
You know blaming the fucking drugs again, you know I'm saying like that you just
I hate when people blame fucking drugs for whatever I did
I did what I did because I did it not because of fucking drugs, you know, let's knock it off
They did contribute
They did contribute a lot to the behavior
But I did what I did because of what I was feeling
You know, I retweeted a thing by bruce lee the other day that a man who doesn't know himself
you know, I
Didn't get to know who the fuck I was and what I stood for
So after I started stand-up
Do you think you do like how do you know oh fuck we all think we know what we all
Yeah, we all think we know who the fuck we are
Right and who the fuck we are and what makes us and we don't know deck to deck
And one day it just all clicks. It's like when you're a fucking breaking into you ever see her like a movie
The italian job whenever the hot-looking chick
Yeah, would hit the safe and it would go whenever she would hit the fucking joint
That's what your mind is like
It just takes to hit it like I started comedy
And even 90 and 91. So what was I 28 29? I was told say I was 28 years old
Remember I told you for two years I did comedy and I had no idea what I was doing
Right. So I didn't really even so I'm telling you guys right now till 95 was when I finally
Was in the ballpark
So that's 32 now you got to consider. I'm a fucking loser
You know, I got a gd all that shit. So that means you guys could do it by the time you're 27
You guys are all five years ahead of me. Let's just pretend
Let's just fucking pretend, you know
But I don't think so. I think we all
You don't really nobody really gets it
Well, do you think it changes? Maybe like you're a different person at different stages of your life
So you kind of have to find each stage or absolute fucking Louie. Absolutely. I fucking this is why I do not like what's going on with the
Me too. Like I was thinking about papillon
Papillon is a movie that was by today. I was watching something with my daughter
And I think papillon means butterfly in French
Okay, you know, and there's a movie called papillon with Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman
And it won Academy. I think it won Academy Awards. I'm not sure. It's a great movie. They remade it with with uh jack's teller
Oh, wow, okay jack's teller. See if you find the trailer for papillon with jack's teller
but
It's a great movie. It's about it's a prison movie. Fuck the fucking one with the black guy and a white one the
Shawshank redaction
I never even saw that. Okay, I've never seen that. It's probably not what prison is like. Well, it's also old-time prison
I watched bits and pieces of it. It's not for me. I don't know what it is, but
uh
What the fuck are we talking about papillon papillon?
See what it comes out. Well it came out in 2017. It came out
Don't tell me that movie came out already. Yeah, when was it released?
I'm trying to find out. No. No. No. It was made in 2017
That movie cannot have been released yet. If that movie's been released
Oh, you know, you're absolutely right. I'm sorry. It's coming out next in august august 24th
Who the fuck you think you're dealing with? I don't know why imdb says 2017 for no because that's when they filmed it
Oh, okay. God. I thought it was my MBB is no filming
Oh, okay. Well papillon is a great fucking movie and I don't know if the original
One an academy award. Steve McQueen was great, but the guy on the side was Dustin Hoffman
But his legacy is getting wiped out because of the foot rub incident
You know like with all that shit now
If it's something you did two weeks ago
I could understand it
But if you're gonna come back on me from something I did 24 years ago
Number one, I don't think that's right
And number two
I'll tell you what else I don't like about it that your your livelihood is gone
Without getting judged
By a jury of your peers. You're just getting judged by one person. It's your word against mine
Well, that that part is scary, but like
Where do you draw the line that like how long does something matter like how long does it used to liable?
It matters forever. You're always liable, but you know what call me
Call me first
And say hey man, I think I'm 94 one night. You were a little bit out of bounds
But for you to go to the ap news now and say this
What are you gaining by it?
Nobody fucking remembers 1994
I'm the only idiot that that that goes there because I want to bring myself there from time to time to see
How I felt there when I write a book or when I write a joke or just
You know, but who remembers 1994 you?
No, are you seven six seven?
So that's what I'm saying like they were accusing him of something he done to set two in 2000
We're all different people
Let me tell you something. I've been
I could honestly look at you and tell you I was five different people in my life
Is that every 10 years or something? I guarantee you
I still remember being the scared
Like not having any dreams not thinking I could ever amount to nothing kid
And then I remember having a little hope and just being like a junkie thief
And then my mother died. I remember just like those 10 years were just sad
And then I remember this other kid that was just a fucking
I'm an animal
Like an animal
And then I remember like a me starting comedy
And I remember those first couple years of me at war with my ex-wife and I was still an animal
Dressed in sheep's clothing and I'd already been to prison
And I was still a fucking animal
I mean, I struggle with this sometimes because I was
I must think as a as a as an ex-convict you must get judged a lot for what stuff you did
And I I I mean like sometimes if I if I would go online or if I heard some girl that I knew
Was dating a guy who had just got out of the jail. It's like, what does she think like that?
But I don't know where you're supposed to draw the line. I don't know where
You're like, yeah, they are a bad person or oh, they made one mistake
And why are we judging them?
It's kind of weird as you go up. You're like, oh, maybe
Maybe I shouldn't
Look down on these people coming out of prison
Coming out of making bail the first time
Was one of the most difficult periods of my life
Because I'm walking around thinking that everybody knew what had happened, right?
Even people didn't know me like I could walk into a supermarket
And have a funny feeling this guy was looking at me weird because my name came out of the paper or something like that
It really changed the game for me mentally
I'm not gonna lie to you and it changed it on levels
Because then even I looked at it as a joke
What was the joke?
well
You know, I had done something bad. I'd gotten in trouble
And if you guys want me to lie to you and tell you like after the after two months when I realized what I had done
I went back to being cocoa. Like I just didn't give a fuck and it was like a joke
Like it was like a joke
It was like that's gonna happen. I'm not ashamed to tell anybody. It's the truth
It's the mental state. I was at that time with the drugs and the whole fucking deal
It was like a joke for me. Like I remember like from february of 88
till august 15th when I got sentenced to 88 like
It was like I was living this fucking fantasy land like I was gonna get myself out of it like
But that was the first time I really started trying and I could see that I could do something with my life
That's weird about it. Like looking back now
You know, I still remember getting that letter
Like I'm out on bail
And I get this letter from the university of colorado
Like I'm out on bail
Okay
This is like again, you guys always say well, joey, you have no idea what you're talking about with the university
I'm out on bail. I can't sell a car. I can't make a fucking living
You know, I'm living off a little bit of savings. I have put away. I'm I'm eating conservatively
At that time I had a girlfriend, but I really wasn't going out
Uh, my roommate sold coke. So I stole it from him and every once in a while I bought 20 dollars
Worth the fucking cocaine or something like that. I don't know what I was gonna say to you. What was I talking about?
When you were out on bail, how you felt? I was out on bail and one day I got a letter
Like here I am this fucking huge loser
Everybody knows what happened. You know, I can't get a job in the car business
And I got a letter from the university of colorado
And they're like congratulations, mr. Diaz
We've just been we're writing who we're reaching out to you to inform you that you are not
Uh, you are not allowed to take classes that continue to get education anymore
that you either have to transfer to a
A higher college. I don't know how they worded or the university of colorado
I'm like, wait a second. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Wait a second
What are you telling me here?
that I can't go no
it was like
So you you're asking me to apply for the university of colorado
So there was a number on the bottom and I call this lady or whatever and I'm like, this is joy digs or whatever
I go and she's like, yeah, we got your credits from rocky mountain college
That you went to an 83 and 84
And with the last two years here, we've got all your credits and you have enough credits to transfer into a university
You can't take any more credits
You have to start taking those classes that matter like
Down a lot of casement. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, that's like and I had a couple history classes like basic math like
Intro to economics like shit like that. That's the shit I was taking while I was doing coke
And selling cars and being crazy. I still always took six credits a semester
With no high school diploma
No high school diploma you fucking moocles. I just went there in life. Yeah, I got a diploma
Once I got arrested and I came on a bail. There's a criteria list
And if you have that criteria list covered it makes your sentencing easy and one of them was having a g ed
That's why I took my g ed
Oh my god, these are your priorities, but I mean
So you're so so the whole world felt like the whole world's against you
The whole world was against me
But here a major college is asking me to enroll in their college
And did you feel bad because you knew you couldn't so now it's february
Okay, uh, did you did you immediately know I can't do this? I'm going to jail
I immediately knew I couldn't but I go I'm not going to jail. I'm going to college
I just made my I'm just I just I just told the biggest lie of my life to myself
Like bigger than comedy like that was the first time I fucking lied to myself
No, I'm lying to you. That was the second time the first time I lied to myself was when I thought
I told everybody my god my stepfather didn't give me
Money from my mother's estate. I knew he wasn't gonna give me none
I just said it to myself to make myself feel good. We lied to ourselves to make our feel
Lee when I got that letter from the university of Colorado. Are you fucking kidding me? Who's going to prison?
I'm going to college
I'm back to school
Like rodney. I can't go back. I can't go to prison. I'm not I can't go to prison. I'm going to college
I called that lady immediately
She goes come down to mom pick up an application and submit it with 35 hours or 25 hours
Whatever the fuck it was 25 hours
And I submitted it and yeah, I submitted my fucking g ed
Thank god I had taken it
Like I took the they took they made me go to a class like three satellites in a row
Okay from 11 to 3 just to review it and then you take the test only a fucking moron
Only a retard could fail that fucking test for free for free some school just said just come here from 11 to 3
On satellites and we'll go over everything that's going to be on the g ed
And then the fourth week you fucking take the g ed and I pass I got my high school equivalency to kawarma
And so like three weeks later
I got a call from colorado come on down
I go down there. I give him the paperwork. I got my little fucking equivalency diploma and shit
And no one looked at the data. They don't give a fuck about nothing. They talk about the benjamin's, baby
True, so I give them all my shit
And now I even call the attorney I go listen don't you ain't gonna believe this
We ain't going to jail. He's like, what are you talking about?
You got rid of the victim I go no no no no
I'm going to college
He's like, what are you talking about? I don't let me tell you what I'm talking about. I got 26 fucking credits
All these years while everybody thought I was dickin around I was accumulating credits like a fucking
Like a scala that I am taking intro to this intro to that
And fucking he's like, are you crazy? But you're on to something
Because this could save you
So I paid everything I had to get transcripts from high school
Sent over I had them fucking do all this shit
And boom they told me no
No, they said no no no no, but
But see when I did the paperwork for some reason, I don't know what happened
I had one of my white moments. I didn't mark hispanic
What did you put I don't know
Italian no like white. I don't know. I don't fucking know what I put on there
And the guy called me back. His name was James Hadamillo
I stood I looked him up. He just recently retired
Because I wanted to thank him he called me up and he goes
If you were to mark hispanic in that box
And redo a couple things on your paperwork. I could probably get into get you into the c up
College program here. What's OP?
Minority program for blacks and latinos
And all you had to keep was a fucking like 2.0 average
And they throw a thousands of dollars at you
And I was like a sign me the fuck up. Where do I check the box?
Even better. Yeah, that's a true. That's a true fucking story guys. Holy
And I got into the university of colorado. I picked all my courses
I did one course like they they had this me do this one four week
Intensive like three nights like Tuesday Wednesday Thursday to get you ready for college or something to get me ready like I did that
I was ready to go. I wrote a letter to the judge. I wrote a letter to the pre
Probation department now when you get sentenced to prison
It's not really the judge who senses you you know that right?
He has litigations and he has a bunch of things
It's the probation department that senses you. Oh, there's a thing called a pre probation investigation at least it was with my day guys
The big thing for me was my interview with the probation lady
My attorney got me prepped for that. They fucking hired a chick
Who sat with me that cost me like 125 an hour
for like three or four hours
And prepared me for my meeting with this probation lady
We hired when we hired the private investigator. He did all his homework on her. She was from new york city
We grew up like four blocks apart at one point. You had the private investigator look up the
You know, yeah, my attorney was a bad motherfucker
So we did that we did our homework and I went in there
But I didn't claim liability
And that's what pissed her off
That I throughout our conversation she liked me
And she said
She fucking she said that I would never ever ever probably get in trouble again
That I would never commit recidivism that I would never get in trouble again
But that I had to get spanked
Because I didn't understand what I had done. Remember, I told you I thought it was a joke
Jesus that's that's a lot of power
Yeah
But I'm very happy
She did that. No, really you're happy
Yeah, put Tony better though
It's monday
That's it. The month is over. That's it. It's august 1st on wednesday, bitches
The renters do get your shit together
I want to be around
To pick up the pieces
When somebody breaks your heart
Some somebody twice as smart
As I
Or somebody who
Will swear to be true
As you used to do with me see the video my client made with this with the comedy store
Let me give some shout outs my man brent yawn
My my girl destiny down there and fucking salt lake. I'm sorry. I didn't get the weed from your eric andrade
cash donovan tony jack mance
My man dominic salas. Thanks for coming adam demange
James benson and bolsley bellows. Hold on. I got a note here somewhere. What the fuck did I put it?
Oh, that's for you
Jesus my car for you. Thank you
I
I've heard great things about utah. So it's awesome to hear that you had a good time
Even people on the open mic sucker. Tell me that the open mic at that club is great
It's a comedy fucking powerhouse of the town
They they'd love in comedy. I looked at that lineup. They got a great lineup
And I want to do a special happy birthday shout out
To my man matt llamas. I know it's your birthday that thing tuesday cocksucker happy birthday. I got to you from my client
So I didn't forget about nobody
But it's no it's a great town. It's becoming uh
You just you'll see over the years you go to these places and
You see the the building you see the the comics that start coming there
And you get you hear different rum wings and people like bro. That's a good fucking room
And and that's a great room. It's a I mean I was blown away
I was blown away even vegas was great like vegas the south point was great
Fucking great both shows were packed great
You know it took it took a long time whatever I was going through it took a long time
I'm happy i'm back but back to the fucking checking in thing that really got me that nobody
It's so weird. Okay. So there's I don't know if you guys know where we live. We live in southern californ
So there's clubs in san diego. There's clubs in
Ontario now this is coming up from mexico up. So first you hit san diego
Then there's a club in ontario
Then there's like uh where rogan was this weekend pollute peccaloosa casino
Pachanga, pachanga, and then you have like the irvine spectrum comedy club
Then you have braya
And then you have hollywood, right?
Then you have the hollywood area and then you have the valley where we are
And then you have oxnard and you have
The chinese restaurant ventura and you got that's it. You got the ha ha north hollywood and flappers when you got all this stuff
When you play
The clubs on the south bay like either braya
Irvine or
Ontario it's really weird what happens to your facebook
You start getting
Hit up by comics from that area
And first they hit you up with a simple question of hey, how you doing was thinking about it the other day
And then a week later they hit they go right for the juggernaut and they go was wondering if you had a feature
Spot for next week. No, you know, I have nobody you just
And even if I didn't have nothing
I wouldn't give it to them just for the sense of how they did it
But you follow me
So let's say you had a gig coming up in two weeks down there
Do you expect like all right the thursday before i'm gonna get a call from this guy?
Like do you know now who's gonna call you in one? No
If you called me all year every month and said hello, right i'd probably call you and give you that gig anyway, gotcha
Do you follow me? I know who's gonna hit me up for something just by that first
email or facebook message
Instead of email me throughout the year and having me involved
They email you a week out
And they hit you with something weird. Hey, I saw you on tv the other day
And then they hit you with that. Can I feature for you on this date?
And and and it insults me
Because they're nice kids
It insults me because they're nice kids. They're just doing it all wrong
It's so weird how
I'm doing after the the netflix special comes out. I'm gonna give this a tour and I know the comics. I'm taking out
I'm taking you out on a couple days. George Perez
Eric I got Kate Quigley. I got Dean del Rey always the agostino
I like these young guys. I put them on the podcast for a reason. I've seen and now I've watched them grow
Like when Theo first came on this podcast. He was a headliner that was struggling
Now Theo's a fucking headliner
You know now Theo had his doubts a couple years ago three years ago when we were doing Theo Theo was going through his own personal demons
Look at Theo today
What do you think changed
He was in his head. He was using drugs
And he got cleaned up
And he got out of his head
The drugs would give him like a social thing the same thing. I still have
You know
But it takes time you know, you see these people
Like now like Eric Rocha last week for example, I think Eric's a funny funny guy Lee
I think he's a very very funny guy. He's made me laugh on nights that I can't
I'm at the fourth wall waiting to fucking stab myself in the fucking eyeball
And he had lines of thing and I've said to myself
For the last six months, what's this kid doing here?
He should be in one of those clubs on Sunset. He should be at the laugh factory at least
every night kill him
Closing out the fucking dirty shows because he has no fear Eric
Eric Rocha has no fear
He'll follow me Eric Rocha. He doesn't give a fuck
And I know that about him. I see how bad he wants it
I see who he is his disciple of
I see who he watch, you know when
You know, here's a guy that doesn't want to hang out in the comedy show
And when he goes to the comic store, he actually pays and pays and watches comedy
He's done it a few times since I'm done
He can actually call me and go can you put me on the list and he won't do that
He'll pay the 25 bucks to see Doug stand up or don't even come and see me or to pay for the original
I remember one night turning in the original from the day he was your birthday show
I almost shit my pants, you know, I would have put them on stage. I liked them back then
I just didn't really know how to approach him
But once he had said to me that guys like me usually don't like him
It really ate me up inside because that's not what I'm about
I like funny
I like funny bro. I like funny. I'm a fan of fucking funny
I got into this to laugh. I want to laugh. I want to laugh. Even if you're bomb
Sometimes somebody bombs. This is the funniest thing of the world. You ever seen me bomb hilarious
When I bomb my bombing style, nobody bombs bad Uncle Joe. I take it like a man. I know I'm bombing
Sometimes you see somebody the worst is open mics and so many things they have good jokes when they're bombing
There's so many different levels of bombing
And there's so many different levels of funny. I've seen people bomb who are hilarious
Is that the weirdest thing to tell you because they bomb funny
Brody
All right. Yeah, absolutely Brody Stevens
I'd not bro. I know Brody 20 years
When he was doing that and people looking at him like what the fuck is he talking about?
I still remember him in gig harbor, washington
Summer of 96 me him and Josh wolf
And him stopping in the middle of the act and saying how come there's no brothers up on the wall
Because there's no Jews up on the wall because the whole stage was headshots and frames
And in the middle of his act he looked at the wall and he goes, hey, how come there's no Jews up here?
I'm not coming back to gig harbor till I see a Jew up here
And he was looking at the three Jews that were on there and he's like, they're not real Jews
Like, you know, you see the progression of these comics
And and do you think the people who are hitting you up for brea and all that aren't doing this sort of work?
They're not progressing. No, they just wait
They're waiting for the bluebird to happen is to knock on their door. Listen
When you're a feature act you have to work every like Matt Fultron
Matt Fultron is a fucking machine. Isn't that his name? Yeah. He's the machine
Every time I talk to Matt Fultron, he's somewhere else the machine's bird. The machine's bird. He's with the full charge
I give him like he's doing dc and
Philadelphia with me. Oh cool. That'll be a good show. Yeah, that's a great show because I know he's an east coast
It's a train ride for him
He doesn't give a fuck
And he gives me and he works at any level some weeks. He had like they're all like all those guys are on
weird cusps
They could feature and they could headline
Including k quickly including dean del Rey. I heard dean del Rey was phenomenal. I want to give him a shout out
Dean del Rey was phenomenal up in Montreal this week. Congrats buddy. Congrats to dean del Rey
I mean, I swear we had you know, we had him on the show up four or five years ago. I
Know a hustler. I know the difference between a hustler and a fucking con man
Because I was both
I'm both
So do you think the reason why people like eric might not be at those clubs is just because they don't have a name yet?
Like is that the absolutely eric just eric's life's about to change
I'm taking them on the road. I'm lesion among people
And people gonna run out of those things
Because he's gonna hit them hard because I don't know how to feature
He's gonna be a good fucking feature. He's gonna be very funny. He's gonna put it together
And then I'm like, I know how to handle him in the midwest of st. Louis when he tells me gay joke
That's what makes me laugh. Are you gonna not make a man come by like you're gonna be like you have to tell the
No, I don't I don't I don't I don't do nothing to people
That's not my
Gig I'm not if you come to me and ask me I may give it to you because I know you
Oh, I may not say a fucking word to you. Then one day I go leave. When are you gonna let that joke go already?
When are you gonna let it go already? How many times do I have to fucking bomb for you to fucking let this joke go by now?
You know, I'm one of those guys. I don't want to say nothing to you
I'll keep letting yourself hang yourself until you come to me one day
I think that whatever they fired me. Well, because you want to do that joke about eating dogs
The guy don't want the guys to fucking vet
You know the guys the fucking vet you want to keep doing because sometimes you pick a joke
And we'll go to war with it on our own merit
Because that's who you are as a comedian. Do you love it so much? You love it so much and your ego thinks it's overpowering
But the joke has just got off and I'm the king of that. I've done it for years
I listened to all those cds and said
Oh
But it's all
Checking in is all a part of
self-inship
It's letting the people know you care for them
You know that that thing that that that kid that hacked us or whatever
That printed that thing weeks ago. It was from a reddit
And it said why all these guys liked me that he they couldn't figure out with all the things I had done
That why did these comics look up to me and and all that shit?
You know, I still have a card from aria on my wall
From like 1998 from him thanking me
That card means more to me than any tv show or anything
You know in like 2008 when I was thinking about quitting comedy
I was talking to a friend of mine 2009 before I got to the podcast and business with felicia
And he said that a lot of comics looked up to me young guys that I should start talking more to them
And I used to talk to original and that's how I met johnny rock and all those guys, you know
And I got back and how I got back into comedy was true young guys
Sort of what you did with the fourth wall like you re-envigorated you de agustina right? Yeah de agustina
We met each other on the same night. Oh, yeah. Yeah, really? Yeah, yeah, we met at the ha
We all met the same night. Well, no, well you you probably knew de agustina a little bit before that
But I met both I meant to say I met both of you the same night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was weird
I the agustino brought me back. He got me ready for the gay burglacia show
And then I had mercy the cd, you know, then I just and that was all without the store
That was without the store. That's why now I decided I'm just doing comedy at the store. That's it. That's it
Because you got so far without it, but you feel you can talk to just listen, you know what man?
I belong at the store. I even told triply. I saw triply on the way out and he goes, hey, when are you gonna do second Michael?
You know what bro
For right now I'm going back to my original role
I'm just gonna do spots at the store
and on the road
And my little little fling I got my little residual thing I got up there at the ice house
My little residential working out with uncle joey
Once a month or once every other month or something like that in between big shows or something so you stay active
And run the hour, but I'm not doing comedy anywhere else. I don't have that much time
Listen starting August 13th
She's got to be at school at 8 a.m
That means if I get home at 11, I'm not going to be in bed till 12 till one
I got to be up at seven weather
Me and my wife in fact
We're going to start running it this week. So she's ready that week that she's off because this is how well last week you can't
So she's in regular school now. Yeah, she's touched regular school in the 13th
So I'm running this game a lot different starting on the 13th. This game has to change. I can't be out late at night. I got a
You've already you've already seen all the other things you need to see. I mean, no, I'm fine
I'm still gonna do my comedy. I'm still gonna do my thing
But you don't need to go to different rooms like I do. No, that's it. I'm just gonna go to the store and be where I belong
That's where I belong. That's where I belong. That's you know metal sharpens metal
you know
metal sharpens metal
Makes sense. It's pretty interesting. I like all the other rooms
But for me to go on the road and do what I have to do metal sharpens metal
You know, you want to get good at jiu-jitsu? You got to go to cabrinha. You got to go to alberto crane or you got to go to john jack
Or you got to go and everything else is mediocre
But when you come to me and you go listen
I either want to go in the ufc what I want to fucking start competing fucking walk big contest a year
Pick one of those three. It's alberto cabrinha
or john jack mcchato
You know up here, you know, I don't know what else is going on all over the country
I'm talking about up here. You know, you have great schools in orange county and all that stuff
I'm talking about up here
If you said I got to train up in this area up here
It'd be cabrinha doesn't he train for fabrice over doom?
You know, uh, I know john jack was trained a ton of people
I mean, I know I learned from one of his fucking black belts. Who's brilliant brett's one of his black belts. Who's brilliant? So
So is true, uh jiu-jitsu up in baker's field map baker
john jack was unleashed a bunch of
But that's what I do
So for me to be the best I can be I got to be on the tuesday lineup at the store
every fucking week
with
brown white
With joe rogan following joe rogan following
You know sam trippley following delir. You know how it is to follow chris delir. You think no, I have when I see
I have to follow chris delir
I just take a sword in my fucking neck
You know following chris delir is like
That's a clean good-looking guy. I'm in no danger
What do you remember?
It was there a time
Where you felt like you had to go up multiple times a night? Oh, yeah
I did all the time and not even not even to get better
But I just meant like sometimes like if I have an actual show that I'm doing
I always do an open mic first just to get the rust off. Yes
Yeah, absolutely
And I like that's that's the hardest part for me when I see you going into a thursday or something
Like jeez. That must be hard to go in cold. No, I use thursday as my world. We're warm up. Okay
My thursday night show in the city is my warm-up. I go out on wednesday night
I like this week. I went out wednesday did the comedy store with joe on wednesday
I had an idea what I wanted to do. I could only run 20 minutes
And then that leaves thursday night. I'm not cold. That's cold
That's cold to me like days in between at least so thursday on the plane. I put together my little list
The shit I wanted to try what was up in the air and what's out there
There's stuff that's out there and then thursday I go up there
And I probably do like an hour and then on the weekends I cut it down because you got to move the people in and out
The two shows are sold out
But I try everything on thursdays thursdays are your warm-up night
Once you get into that big league like you know like that like that's what I use it for
Would you ever when you were like touring what do you try to find an open mic in that city or no?
When I was touring I did everything I couldn't leave. I don't know. I don't know what you thought
I did every set there was that night to do
Cars trains planes and all the wheels. I didn't I never did the new york scene
but
When I started and I my first three years of serious comedy two years were bolder
And that was I had to drive had to go to shayamayoming some nights the weekends
When I got to seattle monday night was
your comedy underground in tecoma
Tuesday it was the comedy underground and it was like a vogue art bar that there was girls dancing in cages
And you had to go up in between and do 10 minutes and you ate a big big dig of death and they gave you three drinks
That's what we bet frankie the nose
That's what me and josh became friends with frankie the nose the guy we robbed the safe with and all that shit
Then wednesdays you had a specialty show at the fucking underground
But laura crocker had a room and so did donna richards. So you called them up and got a guest set from them
So I would have three sets on a wednesday night
I learned that hustle early when you get into comedy. It's about sets. It's just sets
Your first three years is just sets
Sets. I don't know what you're talking about christmas. I don't know what you're talking about
New years. I don't know what you're talking about
You know, but then again your first three years nobody's hiring you on the weekends
Right. So you have the weekends you basically work sunday through thursday like an animal
Unless a club gives you like a local club makes you a house mc or gives you mc work
There's really no work for you at that level
Do you think that's like because I've heard you say for a while that you're not you're not a huge fan of people starting here in
New York
And but do you think that might be the only benefit is that you have open mics available to you every night?
You have open mics available, but the quality of the open mics is shit. That's also true
The shit
the shit
And everybody wants to be a star the mentality is different
The mentality is a lot different than an open mic here
than in san francisco than an open mic in minneapolis
Because everybody's going to work the next day
And ain't nobody talking about mbc or going to fucking mantra you're all nothing
So you really get you focused on comedy
The smaller markets
I don't like these markets because it gets you it gets puts people in places. They shouldn't be at
They shouldn't be at it just puts you in weird positions
It's good for you to see what the major leagues is
But it's all so good to know who you are
Here you don't know who you are
People telling you to get headshots. I heard that the other night
Joey D is one on stage and I heard the other night
Uh, eric rocha went on stage at a steakhouse and he got signed by cAA, you know, wait, that's it's a different thing
It's not you know
People just trying to be fucking the funniest and they can
You're trying to open up for this guy. You're trying to do this. There's always a backhandery
And those little markets
First of all, you go to your place
You know, I was very fortunate
All right, and I never forgot jimmy abeta jimmy abeta knows I love I love jimmy with all my heart
Jimmy's a goofy fucker, but I love jimmy mexican power out of denver
One of the hardest working comics I've ever seen in my life if it wasn't for jimmy, I would not be here right now
He's one of those comics and that he's in the top 10 of people that helped me
Jimmy knew how to produce rooms
Him and andy patin are very important in my life me and keith stubs
We're talking about andy patin
I've never ever ever seen anybody repeat andy patin
In my way what he did
He told the establishment to go fuck themselves
And he did his own thing and he did his way like sanatra and it worked for about five or six years
But it was a lot of work for him
And I wish that I was experienced enough. I don't thank him enough
Like I don't thank I can't thank andy patin enough because there was a guy
Not bill blooming rich up in boston. There's a dick darry
Yeah, you're under the club right next to emerson for a while. Okay. So dick darry was like a sea room guy
Yeah, it was in a bank vault right and he had a bunch of different rooms and he cheated people and stuff like that
But if you asked joe rogan who helped him out the most in boston, it was darry because
Dick darry didn't give a fuck how dirty you were
You know, nobody wanted to work for dick
But dick made joe a fucking comic if you go to joe rogan and ask him did dick darry help you
I'll tell you immensely because none of the the other comics were all very
Oiki doiki
And they didn't like joe with joe's comedy would didn't fit their style or whatever
You know for me my dope dick darry. I had
andy patin jimmy abeta
and
Fuck one of the guy that was a motorcycle mechanic
And those three guys were responsible for where I am today
Because I was in new york doing what you're doing now
And it just sucked dick
It just sucked dick multiple. I don't give a fuck what anybody tells you it sucked dick. Yeah, you
And everybody's mean everybody's got an attitude
And everybody knows this guy and everybody knows that guy. It wasn't for me
I navigated my way through it. Don't ask me how
Don't ask me how I was a junkie. I was in pain. It was 93
Uh, I knew how to hustle
But my comedy was a zero
I was a zero
And it wasn't it was me and the scene I was in was in new york
I had something going on. I was getting up on stage
I just wasn't getting on stage enough
And it was roughly it was heart-wrenching. I was going through a lot. You got to bring five people
To perform on a friday. You gotta
You know, I had to make a living. I had to send child support. I had to pay rent
You know, I had to do comedy every night. I wasn't any good. I couldn't wait
What are you talking about 10 fucking years to get funny? I need this now, man
I don't need 10 years 10 years
Fucking 10 years. Who's got 10 years? It's kind of how I feel right now. Be honest. I'm 32 fucking years old. It's 1993
I'm 30 fucking years old. I don't know anything. I don't know anything
I don't know anything. I don't have a car. I got no credit my credit zero
I got my car repossessed. I got nothing
I got nothing. I got no bank account. I got nothing. This is all I fucking got
I drive a fucking limo and I fucking snuck coke and now you're telling me that I got a shop with five people
But I only got four here
So I can't go up that type of shit
Oh, lee, you have no fucking idea
And I said fuck this shit. I went back to colorado
And I called jimmy a bay and he changed my life because he had rooms
Every night that 40 people
That's wild 40 for for those of you listening 40 people for a guy like me is like mason square garden
I would love mason square garden. I would love to do a room in front of 40 people
That 18 month period was so crucial for me because my heart and my soul were crushed because of what was going on in my personal life
But my comedy was on fire
That was when I got into a stride
Monday nights, I did the outback
The steakhouse?
Yeah, there was quality outback. It wasn't a steakhouse. I got Tuesday. I did something else Wednesday. I did three things
I remember sunday was line dance class
And then we followed the line dance class and if I didn't have anything I went to a coffee shop
And the girl's boyfriend was in the halfway house with me
She was the manager and she would sign me up on a list for poetry night and I would go up there and do comedy
They tell me to get the fuck out like boo
Boo, that's not poetry. Get off. They would boo you fuck. Yeah, they would boo me. Oh my god. Come on league
Look dog. There's the front like I I'm here today
Because of what I did in the fucking 90s
Not because I did the longest yard
Not because I did spider-man 2
Think about that not because I did any of that shit
It's what I did from 91 to 2000
So think about it. No matter what you do
No matter what career path you choose
You're gonna have to suck dick the fucking you're gonna have to harry winstein it for a while
No matter what you do you really do what business you start whether you start a yoga business
Whether you see, you know, uh, what's the girl that got divorced and
You know to did the tubs and the fuck, you know people start shit
And you're gonna have disappointments, but don't give up
The first 10 years or something are fucking brutal
And I didn't find out about this till I started going to the fourth wall
And going these guys have been doing comedy for four years
This is rough
And there's been a there's a couple people there right now who even one guy who's new relatively came out
I even said it to the group. He's like I I tried this 20 years ago
And you don't want to be like me coming back and starting over because you you
Gave up. I'm not too scared. Oh no people do it all the time. That's crazy
And I and
You know what man? I started a lot of things
I started a lot of things and I quit a lot of fucking things. I'm not gonna sit. Come on guys. I quit everything
I couldn't I couldn't fucking handle the fucking hard days work if you fucking paid me
I quit bartending. I was a fucking so my god. I quit everything
Everything, you know
I knew once I got into this there was no looking back. But if I quit this
I would have felt terrible
Did that coincide with what we were talking about earlier when you like realized who you were as a person
Like you're like if I can't quit this it all happened in 95 guys
Wow, a lot of things just felt into pieces. I knew who I was. I knew I was a junkie except that
I knew I couldn't do anything else. I knew I wanted to be a comic. I knew I couldn't be a father
I knew I was a failure as a father. You know, that's the truth that that's they
I was a failure and at the time
You know, that's why it took me so long to marry terry
Because I had failed in marriage failing in marriage is
To account like me it's it's fucking disgusting
Because you failed because of communication, you know, like when people go on I got married too young
I got married for the wrong reason
You know, that's it. I got married for the wrong reason and you pay for it
That's what happens when you do something like that
When you waste somebody's time you fucking pay for it and I paid for it
And today I still pay for it. What am I gonna do?
You want me to wear it on my fucking shoulder and walk around in pain that they go see a psychiatrist. It's done
I wrote the letter
And I let it on fire and that was it and but before I was done with this situation maybe six months ago
I had come to the conclusion and then last week when mercy lost her tooth. She lost her tooth
Yeah, that's when I officially fucking knew that uh
Because I never saw I was never with jackie when she lost her teeth
So you made it longer. So I made it longer. So I'm good. I it all came full circle for me
I'm disappointed it didn't work out
but you can't uh
Maybe since I watched that movie molly's game that that
line has stayed in my head that
In this life, you only make a couple good decisions
and they turn out to be
great, you know what I'm saying, so
Stick with whatever you have in your mind and uh, thank you very much for listening to the church of what's happened now
Don't forget next week. I'm in fucking Kansas City, Missouri
On the night the thursday night eight o'clock make sure you're there
Fucking friday night rogans in town. I know you do you got to do what you got to do
You know rogan hasn't been there in years. I understand but i'm there on saturday night
So i'm ready to fucking rock. You don't want to miss uncle joey
I'm showing up with dean del rizzi and then two weeks later huntsville, alabama
Oh, shit one show thursday night and then friday saturday nashville. Are you fucking kidding me or what?
My niece is coming. We're doing the whole fucking thing. It's gonna be great. I'm excited again
I want to thank everybody for listening to the podcast. I'll see you motherfuckers wednesday. I got my main man leon. Don't forget
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