Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #631 - Bas Rutten

Episode Date: November 1, 2018

Bas Rutten, a multiple time Heavyweight Champ in the UFC and Pancrase, actor and broadcaster, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Ridge Wallet - Use code "church" for 10% off your order at ridgewallet.com/church   Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.      

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up the syringe. We're going deep. I never realized, but when I gave it inside of my man, I was playing this song on the way over and I said, I'm going to get you every inch of my love. And I said, now I finally know what that means. I never knew what that meant. And suddenly it came to you. I'm going to give you every inch of my love. I'm going to give you dick. It comes out of your fucking eyeballs. They were the most sexual and duendo band that you ever, like, you know, everything, their blues just makes you want to fuck. When you were a kid, this song made you want to fuck and you had nobody to fuck. You walk around frustrated. What fucking whole

lot of love? Nobody wants to suck my dick. You know what I'm saying? Everybody sucks lives up on a dick. Nobody wants to suck my dick. And we're back. I was rooting in the house. What's up, my friend? Always a pleasure to see you. The mouthpiece is still working. I still use it. It's effective as fuck. We'll talk about that later. But now, about a month ago, I see some people bleeding from the fucking head. You know, you open up Facebook and you see some guy bleeding and it's bare knuckles and I'm like, oh, we're going back to Charles Bronson. Yeah, hard times, buddy. I'm going Jesus Christ. And all of a sudden, you and I speak on the

phone and you tell me you just got appointed the president of the, what is it? WBKFF, the World Bare Knuckle Fighting Federation. Where are they out of? It's Casper, Wyoming. We're located in Chicago, but Casper, Wyoming, Wyoming is right now, I believe, one of the only states that legalizes it. Bare knuckle. So all the fights have to be in Casper. Yes. That's crazy. Yeah. They're in Wyoming. I've done comedy in Casper thousands of times. Oh, yeah? Yeah. So anywhere in the state of Wyoming, you could bare knuckle it. That's it. And, you know, I think, well, you know, it's frowned upon, right? A lot of people, they think, oh, it's gonna be

blood all the plays and people CTE. But actually, I did a Google search because before I said yes to them, I said, let me give me, give me a day. Let me think about this. And I start Googling and I could not find a test that said otherwise. If you, if you Google is bare knuckle boxing, say for them boxing, every, every test will say yes. And the reason is that like hard times, we were just talking about hard times. You remember the bald guy who would catch all the punches on the forehead, right? He was leaning over the whole time. And that's what happens. You're going to break your hand. Like in the 1800s when boxing was bare knuckle in

England, they, they realized that if somebody defended this title, that anybody broke his hand in the process, he couldn't defend his title for the next six months. So the promoter goes like, man, we got to figure something out. Now, we all know this about with mixed martial arts, we went through this, but a lot of people still out there, they believe that the glove is invented to protect the head, but it's not. It's to protect the hand. That's why they invented it because people broke their hands. What is bad about that is that normally bare knuckle fighters, they hit about 40, 50% of the power hitting the head

because they do not want to break their hands. So they focus more on the body and they hit less hard to the head. So CTE wise, it's actually safer than boxing. Boxing, you have a boxing glove, you can just hit as hard as you can. And trust me, if you hit bare knuckle something and you're with the boxing glove, something, the power, the impact is going to be the same. Only with the bare, with the glove, it's going to be much harder because you're not going to break your hand. Now, of course, it will penetrate more with a bare fist, but that on the face has nothing to do with it. Yes, you're going to get less

iterations. That's the thing we're going to have a problem with, but that's about it. We have plastic surgeons. We didn't have normal doctors. We didn't take normal doctors. We have plastic surgeons at the event, two of them. So if does somebody gets cut, we have plastic surgeon to stitch them up and make sure that it almost doesn't show. Oh my God, I'm starting to faint. It's crazy, right? What do you think as a fighter? If you were still fighting, would that be something you'd be like, that sounds like terrifying. Okay. I truly believe, because I just did another interview and they said,

you think, oh, this is more like the guys in MMA who didn't fight for a long time and they want to come back now and they want to do bare knuckle boxing. And I said, well, if bare knuckle boxing would have been there at the time when MMA started, I think a lot of those guys would have actually chosen bare knuckle boxing. No takedowns. No takedowns. No, nothing. You can clinch though. You can hold and you can do uppercut, almost like dirty boxing. You can do that as well. So yeah, once we get over that hurdle, once people see it, once you start watching bare knuckle boxing in England, it's huge

in England right now. And actually Julian Lane, you know, I want to bang that guy, you know, from the ultimate fighter. He went to England. He beat the bare knuckle champion there who was 18 fights undefeated and we have him on the card as well. So I'm super stoked about this card. It's going to be great. And I think we're going to see fighters using different strategies. You know, it's different than MMA. It's a different distance than MMA. The punches penetrate easier because there's no gloves. MMA is tiny gloves. It's also penetrates easier. But boxing, of course, bigger gloves and thigh boxing. You see, so

it's harder to penetrate. Now, yeah, every punch is probably going to slip through, but you're going to have to pick your shots because if you punch me and I just lean over and you hit the top of my head, it's night night to the hand. You know, you're going to break your hand. And that's why they go 40% to the head. You know, it's funny when we started the conversation. This is why I love you to death because right away you started with CTE. Yep. Right away. That seemed like that was your biggest concern. You didn't look at money. You wanted to, you really cared about, uh, you know, I don't want to do something

that, that I'm going to feel bad about later in life. You know, if I thought, what if some people started dying? And you know, because the first thing, and I don't know what you knew. There's somebody told me, no, but it's actually safer than boxing. But you know, you hear that, but you don't really know. So that's why I said, let me Google a little bit. Let me play around with this tonight and let's see what happens. And then you find out that it is indeed better than CTE. CTE buys better for the fighter, for the boxer in this case. And it's the same. It's like there's a ref in the ring during the whole...

Everything. It's, everything is very classy. We're going to have a very classy show. We have the Ring Girls with Knight Gowns. We get, you know, Jimmy Leonard Jr. is the ring, the ring announcer. Can you rise his back with me? You know, we got a whole really great team. We have Frank Belmonti who did Pac-Man Mayweather show. I mean, we have the production top notch, top notch. And is it, is it only live or can I watch it online on TV or something? Well, we're going to start online on fight TV. That's for the prelims fights. We have four of them, five maybe, because you know how it goes before the fight, everybody

this sick and he cannot, didn't approve. And it's a, it's a freaking nightmare. Now I know what it really is. You know, it's a lot of work. But then after that, you know, when people see the production and they say, Hey man, wow, I would love to check a 29.95. We kept it very cheap. Also, if you want to do the high definition, of course, like 10 bucks more, I believe. Okay, cool. So now, how many, what are the rules for this now? How many rounds? There's five rounds of two minutes, which you can play around with. When you do a title fight, you can increase the rounds if you want. Two round, two minutes per round.

Two minutes per round, five rounds. I think for an MMA fighter, we have a lot of MMA fighters. We also have a few pro boxers, a woman pro boxer and a guy pro boxer also. The guy who fights Julian Lane actually is a pro boxer who wants to try it out. And now we finally can figure out if, you know, all the boxers say, Oh, we beat these MMA guys easy in boxing. Well, now's your chance. We are bare knuckle boxing. Let's come over to our side and see if you actually can do that. So you think that fighters will go to different strategies because of the head. That's pretty brilliant that you thought all this out. Yeah, no. But we just talked about that the movie Hard Times with Bronson. That's what the guy does. That's how everybody breaks their

hand in that movie. And it's true. You know, I told the story that I was sparring after seven years. I didn't spar. I took one more fight in 2006. And I was sparring with a guy and first he asked me, do you want to spar? I said, now my reflexes are not back yet. I just started, you know, two weeks ago. He says, Oh, that's okay. I said, Oh, no, I'm not saying that for you. For me, I'm saying that for you. Because normally when I give you a head kick and I see that you're not blocking, I can redirect the head kick and I'm not going to hit you. But now I don't have that reflex. It's been a long time ago. So let me get into it. He said, No, I don't mind. I said, Okay, that's good. I will fight. I said, don't throw that crazy overhand that you have.

That's what I told him. And the first punch he threw was the crazy overhand right in my neck. So I stopped and I looked at him. I said, Okay, you know, you do that again, I'm going to hurt your hand. And he started laughing. And we started boxing and sure enough, he threw it again. The only thing that I did was lean over. He hit the top of my head. He was on the ground. And that was with a boxing glove. I said, I told you, I'm going to hurt your hand. You know, and that's what as a bouncer also, you know, when when I was a bouncer and guys, they talked to you, yeah, yeah, and they, you know, they turn away, you know, they're going to sucker punch. That's that was the moment I was waiting for. Because if they turn away, if I see one moment, the only thing I would

do is lean over because they hit the top of your head. And they're not going to break the top of your head. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. The bones in the hand, much tinier than the thick skull. Let's go. Yeah. Every time I'm around, I learn something like I'm just fucking, like I'm just fucking blown away right now. I shouldn't have smoked that pot. Freaking me out. It's more intense. And another great thing about this is distance. I always talk about distance like with boxers, right? If you, if you squeeze the whole time, you can box, right? Because you're draining yourself. So what happens, you make a fist at the end of your punch, that's where you start squeezing, right? The last, let's say, this, this space, you start squeezing the hand with this, if you lean over. So if the target is

here, and you want to hit it, but the head is still relaxing, and suddenly I lean over, I'm closing the distance. So not only you're going to hit my head full power the top of my head, but your hand is not fully squeezed yet, because you do that only at the end of your punch. So if I suddenly meet your fist halfway down by bringing my head forward, yeah, you're going to snap your hand for sure. And what about the jaw? Like, is it only the top of the head? No, no, no, you're the jaw. That's good. You know, you can hit the jaw. Of course, yeah, that, but then people go like, but you can break the jaw. Yeah. Okay. I believe so that it can break easier. I do believe that because it will be bone on bone. Come on, guys, have an MMA glove. And what about this? What tieboxing?

You can shinkig somebody in the face. You can knee him in the face. You can elbow him in the face. They're all unprotected. Much harder weapons than a punch, right? A knee, a foot. I mean, it's longer on its way to travel. It's a heavier object, and it has more time to develop speed and power. And that's why it's way more. So shinkig from from croak up in the face. And you think that's healthy, right? And now you're talking about a little tender hand that's going to hit a skull. Come on, guys, you know, the smart guys, they hit 40, 50% of the head. You're allowed to knee someone in the face. No, no, no, no. But I'm saying yours, but in other sports. And MMA, you can do that. In the face. I've never seen that. No, I have a really great knockout that I can show you that I drilled

somebody's knee in the face. Oh, like literally grabbing by the hair. And then I knee them as hard as I could in the face. You see, but that's an unprotected knee. You know, so people that's allowed a foot, a shin, a knee and an elbow is allowed, but suddenly your hand is not allowed. You see, so if you start breaking it down, you're going to realize why actually he is right. And what I always say, don't believe me. Just Google it. You know, I can say, of course, because I'm the president of the company, people are going to go, yeah, of course he says that. Google it. See it yourself. This CT has become a big topic. Yeah. You know, I saw this thing the other day and I'm a made junkie about opioids and the UFC already. Oh, it's so bad. It's everywhere. And I started

thinking about the NFL now, you know, for years, you're a player. You got to do what you got to do. You're getting six million a year. And every year there's a new college, all American, that's coming out that's challenging your job. Yep. And you play hurt and you shoot pain pills and you shoot pain fucking solvents. And yeah, you know, then you see these guys years later and they can't walk or Campbell. Yeah, you crumble your liver, you crumble everything is the worst stuff. You know, we notice, you know, I had an after my last fight, all my injuries that I retired for in the very first place. I didn't fight for seven years. I thought I was completely in the clear. Everything went perfect. I felt like a maniac. I mean, literally, in a month, I was everybody was telling me that

I was training a dude, you got a new career. This is insane. I mean, you're flying through everything. I say, this is wild, right? And then boom, your first injury came back and that came back and that came back and that came back. And you know, and so and then some, you know, so I thought I couldn't kick higher than low kicks because people said, because I stopped the guy with low kicks, they said, why didn't kick him in the head? I couldn't kick higher than low kick because I tore my groin. You know, I had a rip out. My knees, they were completely shot. I mean, everything that went wrong. I had tendonitis in both arms. I could only shadow box. I couldn't even hit a bag anymore with my arms. I was in so much pain. So what starts, it started there with

a simple Norco. I remember taking one and a half Norco on the day of the fight at 10 a.m. in the morning, because it said, you know, at least 10, eight hours, you don't have to take anything because it can affect you mentally. And I figured, you know, my fight's going to be around nine o'clock. You know, I'm the main event, not the Comain, actually, I thought was. And then then it's out of my system, you know, but you know, I remember the next day taking again and after the fight, you know, you were in pain and slowly. And then I remember a time that I wrote a nine, a number nine with a pencil, you know, my wife uses a makeup. I put it on the mirror. I remember putting on the left corner a number nine because I took nine pills a day and I was not going to pass nine

pills a day. Well, those nine pills a day became 12 pills at the, in one time, four times a day, five times a day. So now I'm taking 48 pills a day. Now the doctor says, dude, this is so bad for you. It's all the Tylenol you're taking because, okay, there's less Tylenol in the Norco than in Vicodin, but it's still really bad. You're going to have to switch to Oxycontin. Okay, dog, you know, idiot that I am. And then an Oxycontin, an Oxycontin is just, that's pharmaceutical heroin, you know, and then you realize, and I had this problem that I went to, I believe it was Ohio or something. And I measured every older pill out and I had a five hour delay. I ran out of pills. And let me tell you, that's when I realized I'm addicted.

You know, I was on the plane shaking, I couldn't eat sweating, cold sweats, cruise bombs all over the place. And I go, I got to kick this stuff. And then I start kicking it. Then I did it the wrong way because of the wrong way. I did it with Suboxone. And Suboxone is kind of the, the, the, the, the rich man's methadone, right? That you get from the doctor. But what you should do, officially, you should build that up for, you can use it two weeks. And after two weeks, you should stop that. My doctor said, no, no, it's good. It still works for the pain. And you only can take less. So if you start with a whole pill, you can literally go to two quarters, you can go to a half, you can actually build off instead of going up all the time with the

pain pills. So I figured, you know, I believe the doctor and I do that. But then I was on for that, for three years. And you should Google what happens to people who are on that for three years. Because once I start hearing it, I heard Dr. Dr. Drew was talking about it on, on the radio, and I go, what? And then I start Googling it finally. After three years, I started Googling what I'm taking. The idiot, you know, and it's so bad. It got in my bones. It took me 11 days to kick that. So you're supposed to take it for two weeks? For two weeks, because if you win it over two weeks, you don't have any side effects. And took it for three years? I did it for three years. So it gets into your bones and it gets the double vision, sweating, heart rate is like 95 in bed.

You can't pee, you can't go to the restroom. You can't. I mean, I wrote a whole list of side effects that it had. And I said, I got to stop this crap. So then finally I stopped it. I tried gold turkey, didn't work, you know, because my, my daughter, I was five days in, I was like freaking out. It's really hard. Like people say that it's, it's way harder to kick that actually oxycontin by itself. It's way harder to kick the subarcton. So then I, my daughter had a party that weekend and I said, okay, I'm going to have to take it again. I mean, otherwise there's no way I can help you to my wife. We had 70 kids coming. So I took it again, felt good right away again. And then I said, okay, now I'm going to smart. I'm going to build it down. Literally go to a

quarter to a third from that quarter and how, you know, it's slowly but surely down. Then once every day, a little tiny crumb under your tongue. And then slowly, okay, then I stopped and then 11 days, those 11 days, dude, hell, you know what my testosterone level was? They've never seen anything. It was five. So not 500. It's one, two, three, four, five. The doctor showed it to another doctor and they're both freaking out. They said, how can you come out of bed? How do you get out of bed? I said, I'm really, I don't want to go out of bed, but I have to. I just forced myself, drink a coffee and once I'm going, I'm going, he said, women have 60. You have five people, you know, people don't go to work anymore. They stay in bed. It's amazing that you still come

out of bed. How's your sex drive? I said, that's gone, you know? And that's the moment that I stopped doing all that crap. And once that comes back, oh, man, you're like freaking superman. No, like the, I explained it like the bad guy, you know, Michael Shannon, who played the bad guy from Krypton, right? He came here and he took his helmet off and then hear everything, all the people, all the sounds he heard because he was not used to that. That's exactly when he came over that stuff. Like shades, I had to wear everything. This would be way too bright light for me. I mean, I was crazy. Your senses are so out of control because they're not stomped away anymore. What's the name of that? Suboxone. Suboxone. So how does it compare to like methadone?

It's the same stuff, you know? It's just that you're in a bad name. Yeah. So it's, it's just what they call the rich. That's, that's how I heard on Dr. Dewey says the rich man's methadone. And I go, what did he say? And then I came home, started Googling. That's when I realized I should have stopped in it for two weeks. So yeah, I have so many people who email me and I have a whole piece now written out that I literally can copy and paste because you do that five times. You go, like, I should save this because more people are going to ask me the same question. So now I have it all written out that I only have to copy and paste. And right away, if somebody has a problem, and now, now fortunately, we have a CBD, right? If you use good CBD with a little tiny bit,

like 0.3% or 0.5% THC, it really helps you to calm down. Like a pain pill, if you take three pain pills a day, let's say, if you take CBD, you only have to take one because it will enhance it. So it's an easier way to build up. A lot of these facilities where you can detox are actually using CBD right now to bring it down. Mary Juana as well, by the way. It's funny because CBD does calm me down. Yeah. Somebody told me if you take an edible and it's out of control, I have emergency CBD in my drawer. Like in case you take an edible or something, the CBD calms you down. Oh, really? I know at night, for a fact, that the nights that I put CBD under my tongue, takes about an hour. Yeah. But I'll fall asleep really good. It's nice and relaxed. It just takes

about an hour. Yeah. You don't get high. I get the 1%. You know what I do? I eat something. I take the CBD, I wait 10 minutes and just eat one or two slices of bread and then I will go into your system right away. It's a better way of doing it because sometimes an edible can show up two hours later, right? But if you eat with it like 10 minutes later, it'll pretty much within 10, 15 minutes it's on. Yeah. I don't eat edibles no more, but I like the CBD without it. They say you have to have a little bit of THC to activate it. To activate it for it to take it to where the pain is and stuff. So I get a small percentage now because I think it was starting to get me sick, the edibles. Oh, I believe it. I can do edibles. If I do edibles, you know, it affects me the next

day. You know, I literally use, but people don't believe it. I buy a Vapen. I can literally do two and a half or three months with that. People got us no way. I literally go about four seconds. I put it, not even till it starts blinking and I'm gone. And I don't only do it once a day. But if I would do during the day, if I'm at a party or something and I don't want to drink and I take a little zip just not to drink and then at night I want to go to sleep, I need more. But if I don't do that, only one, I only need one time a day, like three or four second drag. That's it. And I sleep perfect. I'm feeling great. No headache, no nothing. It's the best. All the pain is gone. It's really an amazing product. You don't smoke. We no more.

No, I do. I do. And I also, like I take the flower, I do that. But also, very little amounts I do. For me, I only want to calm down and I tell myself, you don't need to go out of control. Just calm yourself down and feel my legs, my legs. I have this great feeling and some of my friends have it too, but most have not. Like it starts glowing. It's literally when I, and it's such a good feeling, like my legs hurt a lot. But at night, and I only do it once I'm in bed. So you won't see me walking around the house and no, I lay in bed. That's when I take my little zip, I lay down and literally, I think 25 minutes I'm out. Feeling great. I don't know if I get years ago. This had to be 10, 11 years ago, when people were talking about the benefits of marijuana. I got a toothache

over the holidays. I needed a root canal over the holidays and nobody was open. And I didn't have Vicodin. You know, I was taking pain pills, whatever the fuck, at Advil. And one night, the pain woke me up and I go, let me see if this marijuana shit works. And I smoked a bunch of pot, I smoked a joint. And it was so weird that I got so high and I started writing that I forgot about the pain. And I said, this, this really works. And now my wife is on the fence. After 18 years of being with her, she went to a kid's party Saturday night at the Marshall Art School. Yeah. She took mercy to watch a movie over there. And the owner and the wife and a bunch of the moms went outside and went to smoke. And she told me, she goes, you know,

the guy smokes and I go, come on, that guy's fucking straight as an arrow. She goes, no, Bruce Lee smoked, man. He was having pain. And he got off the pain pills and started smoking blunts. And this pain went away. So he's been smoking blunts at night. And so my wife is considering at night after mercy falls asleep. Listen, we know this, you know, and your listeners probably know this as well. It's just labeled a drug because of alcohol came out at the time. Before the government labeled it as a drug, it has always been medicine. I have a priest that I know, I'm a Catholic. And he said, no, absolutely, you can use it. If you use it for your pain, yeah, if you're all day long, start smoking, lay on bed, you don't do anything nonproductive. Yeah,

you just don't live a productive life. They wouldn't be okay with that. But God invented that plan for a reason. And it is to help people. But just the government, they realized, wait a minute, we got alcohol now, we can text that. It's very hard to text the weed though, because people can't grow it themselves. Oh, let's make it a drug. And they labeled it a drug. And boom, it's funny on the website now on the government, all the things like gateway drug and all that stuff that they wrote, they all have, it's all off now. Because now the truth came out. Now they have to literally take that off because it's not true. You want to hear the gateway drug? Alcohol. Alcohol is the gateway drug. I know that all the crap, all the real bad stuff I did,

you know, and it's not never to other people, but to myself, right? It starts with alcohol. Because that lowers your level, you go, oh, yeah, that's actually a smarter thing to do. I can do right now, which you would so whatever it is. We should do a survey. What'd you drink? What'd you do first? Smoke a joint or drink a bottle of Boone's Farm? And I guarantee it's 70-30. Yeah. 70-30, because that's what I did. I drank Boone's Farm first. But I knew at the age of three, four, five, I didn't like drinking. I drank a bottle of red wine when I was three. At the age of three, my mom, my mom owned a bar. So to put me to sleep, she dipped my fucking pacifier in Blackberry Bairnty. Oh, and Holland did that with a sugar cube. My mother was a savage when I was a kid.

Yeah. And Holland, they put a little like that on a sugar cube and they gave it to the kid to go to sleep. So one day I saw her drinking this red wine, Italian, and she put it on top of the refrigerator. I don't remember this. I waited for her to go to sleep. And I drank the bottle of wine like Vito called Leone. She woke up three hours later. I was missing. She called the cops. The cops found me in the closet, shit, diarrhea, puke. Oh, yeah. And I never drank again. So drinking was not on my agenda. And I was like seven. I saw all these kids smoking. One night I borrowed a now cigarette. Do you remember years ago, there was cigarettes called Now? Now. They came red, green, and whatever. I remember I took two hits of it. And in the bathroom in my house, there was like an ironing

board in the, in the bathroom. And one of those things that you scrub with. Yeah. And I remember that I took, I was making believe I was shitting. My mother was in the kitchen and here I am smoking the cigarette in the bathroom like at seven. And I took two hits of the cigarette. And I started getting busy as fuck. Oh, yeah. And I put the cigarette on top of a piece of wood and I left it there. Oh, yeah. She's like, who the fuck was smoking? I have no idea. I'm puking and shit. So I was away from all that. Yeah. But the first thing I did, even though I was exposed to marijuana was drink. Yeah. I drank for one. I don't agree with me. Yeah. No, I have to drinking is, you know, always I'm a happy guy. If I drink, so at least I have that. And I want to have fun

with everybody. But it's just, you know, being drunk, running around the house is just not a good thing. And that, that thankfully I got out of my system really fast, really fast. Well, people know all the stories, right? There's been a lot of crazy stories. But you know, that was drinking. Fighting keeps you in line. That's the great thing about fighting, you know, you do after a fight, you know, you go two, three days crazy. And then you have to train again for the next fight. I mean, I fought in Japan from 93, let's say to 97 for four years, I fought like 30 fights. That's a lot of fights, you know, your fight first year for a year. Seven or eight. Oh, yeah. No, I thought first year nine fights, I think, you know, I had a really high schedule. That was MMA. That was MMA.

But at least it was in Pankrush, you know, so we had the shoes with the shin protection, the open hand to the face, a close fist to the body, you know, but, you know, that it was just a great way for me to keep myself in check. It's very hard also for the fighters, when they stop fighting, because you don't have that high anymore. Like if you knock somebody out, you know, it's like a hole in one, you know, for golf, I assume, you know, you're there, people go nuts. It's a feeling that you start really enjoying. And if that's only be taken away, you start trying to replace that with something. And most of the time with fighters, there's drugs or booze, you know, like Pat Miller, he's just very smart about it. He just picked

another crazy thing up. He's chasing tornadoes. He says, because I don't, if I don't do not do, do not do that, it's probably going to be drinking or something like that. You know, so he uses that to get that same high back, you know, with me at the time, I was drinking. That's why actually I took the last fight in 2006, because I was drinking pretty heavy. And I looked at my wife and say, you know what, I'm going to take the fight, because if I take the fight, I can't drink anymore. I quit drinking. So that's what I did. And from that moment on, it was all good. Now I don't, you know, I got a little out of hand, like a couple of weeks ago, and that was the first time I think I was drunk in over a year, you know.

Box routine. Every once in a while, my wife goes to bed. I don't even tell Lee. I don't even tell nobody. But now he's telling it on the radio. Oh yeah, my wife goes to bed some nights at 10 to nine. And I can't go to bed at 10 to nine. I just can't. I just can't. That's who I am. I can 10 nights. It's a nightmare. I'll be up at four and I'll get high and make a meal. And then I'm back sleeping at six and I'll mix kickboxing. I won't wake up till 11. It'll ruin my whole fucking day. So some nights I'll have those. They give me 30 of those anxiety pills and I'll take them to the economy store and I'll put them in my gene pocket. And if I sit in the back, I'm high and I start getting a little anxiety and pop it before I go on stage. That's my thing.

I get really bad anxiety when I go to the economy store. I don't know why. It's my fault. Yeah, it's so weird. So as I'm walking up the stairs, I look, I make sure that I see oxygen. Like I have to see an opening. Yeah. Those days, like I don't know how to freak out on planes. Yeah. And I've gone on planes on two thousand edibles at TSC. Oh yeah. Like in the third hour, you're just fucking stoned. Like I've never freaked out, but I've never freaked out. Like I keep it under control, but there's some nights I come home. I take the anxiety pill at the economy store and it's a faggy anxiety pill because when my friends give me the static sticks, yeah, oh, compared to that. And they're like, it's six of those. Yeah. Like six of those little ones

is one of those holes. Yeah. Yeah. So I pop one of those and some nights I get home. I don't really feel the anxiety pill, but I drink a half a Heineken. Oh yeah. Then it goes. And I hit that pipe one time and I sit at the desk and I put on beautiful ones by Prince and I just go down the fucking fox hole with that. And I still remember one night I drank the whole beer like one shot. Like I thought it was Johnny bananas and I drank the whole beer and I'll never forget that I had to walk into the bedroom feeling the wall. Like that's how drunk I get. Like I get fucking lit. From wondering, oh, a couple of weeks ago, I'm jet blue. I thought it was Johnny bananas a minute and I got the red wine. Red wine. Oh yeah. Red wine is very good for you. I know, but I've never

seen you drink wine. I'm 55. I've been drinking more red wine lately. Oh my gosh. No, no, no, and it's not fancy. No, this was the first red wine I've had in maybe a year. Do you just spin it and smell it? No, I just went on the menu and mint and mint to have a certain red wine. Yes, nice. And I drank the red wine and I fucking passed out. That is so crazy. I fucking passed out for an hour, but I don't like drinking on a plane because it dehydrates you. And if I worked out Saturday and I fly Sunday, now I'm going to be really sore. So I usually drink on the way outbound. I usually drink outbound. Like I'll drink, but not all the time. Not at all. And I fly mint as much as I can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As much as I can. I mean, I just went to West Palm Beach,

but they flatter for a lot of them. Mint got it. I'm going to New York Wednesday. Got it. Got it. To Kennedy. Oh yeah. I'm addicted. We went to Boston. Got it. Oh, it's nice. Oh, I love mint. That there's nothing. It's the best. I get that single seat and I live like a fucking doctor in there. Yeah. You could jerk off. You know that if you want to. Well, I heard in the hangovers frowned upon, right? If you do that. What's that? In the hangover when he's on the plane, his frowned upon, which you can do it. The one day I was sitting and I'm thinking right now, I could bang one up and nobody would know. It was like five in the morning I got on there and some hot chicken. I felt like asking like, I went back to my cocaine days. I would fly on

my coke. I'd get freaky. I'd just sit next to a bitch and I, how are you doing? My dry mouth. Oh my God. Your hand is like squeezing. You gotta remember. I was flying from the 80s. Oh yeah. You know, in the 80s to now, flying has changed dramatically. Yeah. Yeah. In the 80s, it was more of a party. Yeah. People got on the plane. The back of the plane was like smoke. So everybody who sat in the back was boozing big, making noises, buy them a drink. Like I used to go on planes where I was part of a group. All of a sudden I was part of a group. We need a virgin at that time. Remember to have their own bar virgin, you know, in first class? I remember. I should have had that at that time. Did I had it? When I was a kid,

United had a bar in the middle of the plane. Man. Like if you weren't coached, instead of that shitty bathroom, they had a bar with a bartender. And a big bowl of quite lutes. No, no, no, no, no. And first class was stairs upstairs. First class was upstairs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was an airline that went from Newark to LA and Newark to England. And the Newark to England flight, I know for a fact, they had a pig with an apple in its mouth in first class. No way. And the guy would play the piano. Real shit. This is the old school flight. But I went on a plane in 87 cigars in 87 86. I would go back east and I would pick up coke and bring it back to Colorado. And I would be fucked up. Yeah. And one day I went up to the middle. I did my bump.

They like people, you can walk around the plane. I shot right to the bartender. I went in that middle bathroom. I did a tremendous blast. I come out of the bathroom with the neck towards the whole thing. And at those days, I used to drink gin and tonic. What a shot I'd do was I was gone. 87. That's how I opened up and give me a beer and keep them. I would be with their families on these flights, too. Kids, everybody give a fuck. They knew not to sit in the back. That's what drugs do. The back of the plane was drug dominated. People smoking cigarettes. I can't imagine. Lee people drinking. You could see who was flying to Vegas with a hooker. She had her tits out. Flying was completely different. When I flew to San Francisco, I banged

my wife right now. What? Yeah, I gave her a stab and a dick on honeymoon night. In those days, planes weren't packed. Did you put a towel or blanket over you? Nothing. Jesus. She had a guard about. I picked her up, gave it to her right in the middle like a savage. Stepping down like a pinball machine. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah. I go up to the middle of this bar. I'm coked out to the guilt. And they got the bartender's got like a black towel. Like it's like a velvet thing. And he says to me, what can I get you? The pieces fell out. A coke rock fell. And it fell and me and him both looked at it. And I'll never forget. I looked at him and I looked at the top of the plane,

like the chip of paint. I don't know what's going on with that. I just wiped it off. He knew I was. You just took it and go like. No, I didn't know. I may believe like I didn't know what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You looked at something. It was it was just different times. It's a different time. Yeah. Were planes being like landed early all the time and people arrested for being looking stuff. No, no, listen, listen, like now people would go insane in 1984. In the heat of cocaine, an airline called People's Express decided that they were going to do something that nobody else is going to do. They were going to schedule a flight every hour on the hour from Newark for $49. But after midnight, it was $29. That means that me and Boss Root could

be in New York City at a bar. Talking shit. It's crazy as me and Boss Root and we're talking shit. And Boss would say to me, I got a cousin in Miami that gets ounces for $800. And I would look at Boss and say, Boss, I have lemon in my pocket. What do you got, Boss? Like, I got four. Let's go to Miami and see your cousins. Call them up. And Boss would go to the pay phone, put $3 quarters in. Because in those days, you put a quarter and dial the number and then the quarter would come back out and she'd say $2.85. And then you had quarters and 35 more cents, please. 35 more cents, please. 35 more cents, please. Banking all of a sudden, she shut the fuck up and your phone call would go through and you would call and your cousin picked up,

I'm home. Can you pick up that? I'm sure. Well, when are you coming? Tomorrow, Tuesday? Tonight, dude. They're four hours. They didn't have, you didn't have to call People's Express. You just showed up. And if they had room for you on the plane, you got on. I'll never forget going down there one Friday night. At like four in the morning. And if there was 180 people on that plane, I swear to God, Boss, we were 160 when we coped out. Oh, I believe it. And we all got on that plane and it just, everybody was joined because that was the thing. It was like going to Atlantic City. It was an hour away. Yeah. What are you doing tomorrow? I have to meet my mother fuck up. Come on. 2995. 2995. One way. Same price coming back. Yeah. And, and, and,

you know, if you come the same day back, you don't have a jet lag, nothing's bothering you. You can go, oops. It's actually really great idea. This was a long and they almost, they did LA, they did Newark to LA for $69, $79 and they did Newark to England. They banged you out on the plane. They charged you for the pillow. You got banged for the meal. You want soda or that's the $1.50. That's how they got you. On their spirit. Okay. But you pay with a credit card on the plane. Yeah. That's right, came in. I'd go on there with somebody's credit card. I didn't even know the person. I'd go see Joe the baker up in the Bronx for a nickel credit card and I'd just go on there and pay. Or a nickel credit card. Yeah. They would note that you were gone. How much were those

costs? They didn't have no computer in those days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they put on a pad. So I'd be in there, drink, come and drink. Give them all a drink. Give them the whole hour drink. Yeah. I'm sparking. Segret's telling me the mafia. Yeah. And also in the check comes, they would charge you the $49 for the flight and then anything else you took, the blanket, three beers, six sodas, the luncheonette kit, which was like three pieces of cheese, salami, and they would bang you out. And then by the time you got off the plane, you owed to 300. You should have flown to America. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You could have taken America for $279 first class. Yeah, but you had a good time. But you had a good time. Yeah. And

there's no stress, no nothing. Nowadays, that's completely different, right? No, there's no, they watch you on a plane now like a fucking hawk. Yeah. I don't see people having a good time on a plane. Coach is like, you're flying to Auschwitz. Yeah. Look at coach. When you get up in Mint, look at coach. It's like they're flying to Auschwitz. Oh, yeah, yeah. Nobody's smiling. Everybody's got their head down. Look at that. Something stupid. That plane could crash. Nobody's smiling. Nobody's in the aisle laughing. And what, what tries to do to the first class, they tried to go to the restroom to get sent back. They get sent back. How bad is that? Oh, my God. Like just let them take a feed. No, no, no. Your restroom is there in the back. I used to make, I used to,

before I flew in those days, I would take notebooks, notebook paper, and I would make bendels. And I'd put like a quarter gram and like six or seven bendels. And I'd eventually do three of them, but they were tips for the airline people. In those days, I would give cocaine out like a tip. Every time that you can't use that back. And what do you mean? Oh, God, God. I'd put a quarter gram in their pocket. That's a quarter gram when you land to get you the way you need to go to pick it up to the fucking load. That's a diamond in the rough. I used to, every time I got coked and I had like an ounce, I'd make like six or seven little bendels to give away, like fucking Bobo. It's amazing you didn't get arrested. No, nobody, nobody arrested you. You

knew who was doing well. They were looking for knives and guns. Yeah, they don't look for drugs. When you put a bender in somebody's hand, they gave you like a look like, how do you know? Like how the fuck do you know? It's quick. Yeah. Everybody was doing it. Yeah. If I looked at you and you went, I knew you were out the night before. So right off the bat, I'll never forget, look at that. I'll never forget being at a bar and the cops got surrounded, like we were in there fucking around and they were looking for us. We put, that was the day we threw a guy in a snow bank and the cops came and I'll never forget walking past the cops. Like I remember having like, maybe like an eight ball on me and telling my baby, give me a dollar bill and putting like

$50 worth of coke in a dollar bill. And when I walked out the cops, he yelled at me, get against the wall, but you're my friend and you're a cop. And if I could get to him with, if I had to get to you with this 20 in my hand, because this was the juice that would make me get through. And I'll never forget the cops going, you turn against the wall. And as I go to turn, I go, hey, and all of a sudden he just took me and go, he's all right. He's my nephew. Everybody knew that was a tipping. That was a, that was, you know, Bitcoin. Yeah. Yeah. That was my Bitcoin. That was my Bitcoin. You put a 20 in a bindle for somebody. You made that fucking day dog. Wow. You made that day. Anytime I got a little bit of a shipment, anything like an ounce or something,

I'd always give it a couple of packages and people would, oh, I had a guy, Alki, got it sold sneakers at Levy's Sporting Goods. I had this, I had every pair of sneakers when I was a kid. I would walk in there five with a rock the size of your head and give it to him. He'd been drinking doubles all day. He was one of those guys that got to the Sporting Goods at 10 and the whole day he'd be sipping fucking, I forget what he's laying his God bless us. So he died years ago. He was like 50 at the time in 1982. I would drop a gram off on him and go back hours later and he'd be taking care of customers all fucked up, all fucked up. Yeah. Like his job was going and it was hilarious or so funny. You can't tell. Yeah. I tip so many people with cocaine

those days. Lee, it was funny. People loved it when you gave somebody a little rock of coke or we get the bottles and take half of it out and leave half of it in there. It was just like three tenths of a gram. You give that to somebody with a little spoon on it. They'll suck your dick. They said actors, it was just common that they went to the trailer and there would be coke for the actors, right? Like the movie company would literally just arrange that there is coke. If you hear those stories from the 70s with these people, all these actors, what they were doing, it's insanity. I heard in Miami that they were doing it at restaurants. I could look in the face and lie to you and tell you, I never saw that in my life. I saw it in 84 years later in

New York City at clubs. It was wide open. So if we were at the comedy store and we were in the main room, we'd be in a booth. There would be a mirror somewhere with cocaine in that booth and nobody was accepted. That was it. But it's a club. It's a dance club. You know what I'm saying? It's people dancing or everybody knew to go to the ladies' bathroom and stuff like that. But I never went to a restaurant where they, I heard stories where the wait staff would bring it for you. I never saw that. I never saw that either. It was crazy times though. And you started doing drugs in Holland? In Holland, yeah, all the way back. That's crazy. Everybody goes through that. It's all the way out there.

I think a lot of these guys, you go through it and then you know, I think the way we did it, if you do it when you're young and then you know you realize, okay, you find out it's not good, it's always better. I say that I have friends of mine and I knew some guys who didn't do anything until they were 45 and they'd drink a glass of wine or something suddenly and they really enjoy it. And since they never had the bad experience, boom, they're hooked to it. And it's the same with coke or paint pills or whatever it is. They would then they would get addicted. I said, we're at an age. We did everything. It's past. We know it's not going to go anywhere. You know, you're standing a little bit stronger in your feet. That's what I think. You know, I think it's

okay to experiment. There's some things I never did like acid I would never do. I would read. Oh, I had some good acid. Oh, yeah, but I'm afraid. I'm the guy who the worm start growing out of his arms and I'm going to stab him out with a knife, you know, like I think I'm going to fly. I can fly. By the way, I never got that, you know, why don't they try it out first on the spot if they can fly, you know, and then jump off the building, right? Yeah, you go like, no, it's not working. Maybe I shouldn't do this because, because it's not working, you know, but yeah, though, crazy times, crazy times. It was just, but with me, normally it was pretty much for a long time alcohol. That was, that was my choice of thing. Never weed because

in Holland, yeah, it's always been legal to my knowledge when I was there, but it slowed me down and I'm always this upper kind of guy. That's why I'm only doing it, you know, to go to sleep. Or if I go to a part and there's a lot of drinking going on and I want to eat, I say, I'll take a little zip and I'm feeling perfect. I'm nice and relaxed. I can still formulate sentences because if I'm stoned, I can't. That's why I don't want to do it during the day and it affects my memory. You know, so if you have to memorize pieces and things like that, there's no way I can do it. I have other friends of mine who excel when they use it. They actually get better and they can memorize better and they do everything better with me, the opposite. So that's, you know, for me,

it's good that it happened like that because it keeps me in line, so to say. For me, I cannot think of myself not smoking. It is the last of my teddy bears. Yep. Okay, everybody has a teddy bear. Yep. It is the last thing from that life that I have left. I enjoy it. It calms me down. I like getting high at night when I get back from the comedy store with different, like, I have to buy two types of weed. Yeah. Like, I'll smoke this all day, but then at night, when I get home, I'll smoke this. And no, no, they're both into this. I'm into the type. Yeah, me too. I only had to go. So I'll smoke that at night to take that comedy edge off. Yeah. That won't keep you up till two in the morning. I get a notebook out, I put music on, and I'm writing as

I'm listening to my set, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Just to slow me down. Yeah. Marijuana has always slowed me down. I would never, I don't want to do it out of the wrong or do I have any desire to do it. I don't ever want to speed up. I always wanted something to slow me down. When I wake up in the morning, I have my cup of coffee, I look at my early morning emails, I talk to my daughter, I talk to my wife, and then there's a point in time where I know I have to eat. I have no appetite. So I go in the back and I zip to zip. Yep. And boom, the appetite opens up. Now you could eat, I don't have to eat like a gorilla. I could eat two eggs, a piece of wheat toast, and I'm done. Yep. But that gets that appetite going. I want that appetite in the morning.

Without that appetite, my blood sugar drops in the afternoon, and I'll eat much later at night, and now my hunger will triple. So if I eat early, like I can't do intermittent fasting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm going to eat when I get up in the morning, because if not, it catches up to me and I eat triple at night. Well, that's a good thing to be there. Like everything else, if you would have kept on drinking, you probably wouldn't have been here anymore. If you kept doing all the other crap, you probably wouldn't have been there anymore. It's literally wheat that saved your life pretty much. I like it. It keeps me, listen, the thought of saying the word sober would drive me crazy. And it drives a lot of people crazy. That's why the volume of relapsing that there is.

After relapsing several times, you'll realize, I don't like the word sober. Yep. And I don't like the word diet. Yeah. Those two words kill people. Yeah. Those two words kill people. I like the word lifestyle. Yeah. This is the lifestyle that I could lead. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you look at it, it takes pressure off your mind without you thinking on it. I am not on a diet. I just have to acknowledge that I have to eat a little better. Yeah. Yeah, you could go to fucking, uh, what's the sandwich place? Jersey Mike's. Jersey Mike's. And you could have a turkey and provolone for six points. Yeah. You don't need the chips. Yeah. You know, you could put mayonnaise on it. It's not going to kill you. Yeah. You just don't need the chips.

Yeah. Control yourself and not eating the chips and drink a diet coke because you're out. Yeah. But the rest of the time it's water, you know, little things. It's a lifestyle. Yeah. It's not a diet. Once you kill yourself with that word diet, you're done. I do not want you to be sober. I want you to be happy. Those are two different fucking words. If I need you for 90 days to walk around with a frown and I mean, I might drive past Lancashire. I see black people and I want to do crack. Listen, you're killing yourself to live. Yeah. Cut a deal with yourself. In 85, 95, I cut a bad deal with myself. I cut a deal with myself. I wasn't going to go all in on comedy. I was going to dedicate myself to comedy, but at the same time, I wasn't going to keep fighting

this cocaine war. Yeah. If I do it, I do it. No more doing it and beating myself up and lying to myself that this is the last time. Yeah, I know. Boss, I'm happy you're here. This is the last time I'm ever going to do this shit. It's fucking poison in two hours later. I heard that broken record. Yeah, but then you hit yourself in the face. You're breaking your problems the whole time. It was a broken record for myself to other people. So I said, forget it. I'm accepting this problem that I have. I accept it. I don't want to go overboard. I knew that I could get one package and go to bed at night and jerk off till I passed out and maybe do a Xanax and fall asleep. I was hip with that. I really was. I was very, because I knew if I looked at it like I'm trying

to get sober, I would have never done it. It's not going to work. It's not going to work. I think that's, I hate the word sober and I hate the word diet. Yeah, that's what you did to me, so you don't drink anymore. I never say that. You know what? When I go to eat breakfast, just don't get the potatoes. Yeah. Eat the bread, put a little tiny butter on the bread. Eat the two eggs and eat two pieces of bacon. Just don't eat the potatoes. You see, I ate an enormous amount of potatoes like during the day. I mean, I love them too. I'm taking, yeah, but I blend them because I take so much with vegetables. I put it in a blender like a pan and I literally drink it and the meat or the fish or whatever I make, that I bake and make really good for myself and the

rest, this doesn't even have salt on it. I just drink it for pure nutrition and pure clean. Everything clean. Like my first till like six o'clock at night, and it's even if my wife cooks, it's, I'm still eating clean with her, but sometimes when you go out to dinner, that's when I repeat a pizza or doing this, but normally during the day, I'm trying to live very clean now. You know, I noticed that I, I'm a completely different person if I eat correct. You know, if I eat the vegetables and then I do that with the meat, I'm feeling like a maniac. You know, you also, when you get older, you start getting bloated and all that, when you eat too much bread and stuff like that, it's such a BS. And as soon as you start switching to vegetables and you do

just one, if you have a bloating feeling, just do one week, I would use to make, use to make a big pan of vegetables, all vegetables in there and potatoes, everything. And I would eat the whole day, I would just eat that. You do it for one week, all your bloating is gone. Then you can eat bread here and there, but once you start eating bread three times a day again, it will start again. You know what really helped me because I tried it for my arm. See, this all, see, it's all gone, the lower part because of the neck surgeries, it's atrophied here. So what they told me is BPC-157, it's a peptide. And what it is, is officially it's a gut enzyme. And what they thought in the beginning, because if you had, for instance, you had cancer, they would see that all that BPC was

around the cancer. So they thought, oh, it's causing the cancer, we have to watch out for it. But then they realized, no, no, no, no, it's actually, it's trying to get rid of the cancer. That's what it's doing. It's a gut enzyme. So they figured out that it repairs everything in the body. So now you can get a peptide, which is legal. It's not even on the fighter's can uses. And it will make you heal your tendons, everything, it will heal faster. So I start trying that. And I put it right here in the biceps to see if I can reactivate my biceps with the muscles, you know, but it didn't work. But what it did do was taking complete, I lost my, the bloating, I don't have it anymore. And it's got to be the BPC because that's literally gut enzyme. And those are the enzymes that you do

start losing when you get older. And that's why you start bloating. So it's a perfect little thing. It's cheap. It's legal. Where can you get it? You know, yeah, I have an address for that because peptides online is a very dangerous thing. Because you a lot of the guys, they just sell you power, right? Or it comes from China, you have no clue. I have a company 99.9% pure 100%. So I'll, I'll, I'll send you that address. It works really well. And you drink a water or something like that? No, no, what you do, it's you got to shoot it. You shoot it? Yeah, like, like, like a little, how you call it, the diabetes needles, you know, you take your right, no, no, you just put it in the fat of your butt in your stomach. And or when you have an injury, you do it closest to the injury

as possible. That's why I did it in the biceps. But then I realized, you know, I'm just going to do it here. You have to shoot yourself every day. Yeah, but it's a little tiny. I'll stick with fucking yoga. Oh, actually, actually, actually, you can put it also in your mouth. You pour it in with the needles. So you know exactly how much you take with this little tiny bit and you put it under your tongue and leave it there for 60 seconds. I can't do no fucking needles. Yeah, I have friends like that too. I go to acupuncture. In fact, I got to make an appointment for tomorrow. I forced myself to go to acupuncture, but the needles for drugs, in fact, I held a doctor blood test in the tennis shot. And I've been avoiding them like fucking an HIV victim with 85.

Remember 85, you wouldn't talk to people since they totally had AIDS. You would fucking run the other way. They would sneeze in front of you. You think you were getting it? If you have an open wound and you're close to them, you know, there was all these crazy stories, right? Now, you weren't where were you in 85 when the whole AIDS scare broke out? In Holland. And how bad was it? No, we only heard the stories from here in America. You know, that story that they woke up in the morning and on the mirror was written welcome to the world of age. You know, you would have sex with the prostitute and she would be HIV positive. And then she would write on the mirror in the morning when she would leave welcome to the HIV club or something. That was this. You don't even hear that

heard about that? Oh, you see, because that was apparently happening in America that they were doing. That was some of this weird thing that had been heard in Holland. But for the rest in Holland. Yeah, I didn't really notice it. You heard a lot on the radio and people were afraid of it. And they thought with blood, you can pass on with blood or rubbing against each other even with spit they thought in the beginning, right? Drinking from the same glass, all that stuff. Yeah, people got paranoid. You know, but then you realize it's not, you know, still, you know, it's logic. It's a natural thing to do. You know, if I don't have to drink from the same bottle from somebody who's very sick, I'm not going to do it. It doesn't matter if it's eight or if he's got a cold.

If he's got a cold, I'm not going to drink from the same bottle. You see, because why would you take that risk? Because now you're going to get the cold. So it works pretty much with everything. But it was not as big as a scare. We just heard the crazy horror stories from America. That's was in Holland. Well, once Rod Colton went public, people started getting sick and stuff like that. I remember there was like people were fucking scared, like people were really scared, like that thing that's going on in Jersey with the kids, like where all the kids died in that hospital all of a sudden, there was like an epidemic, but HIV was out there. But those first couple of years, I got a lot, when I got locked up in 88, there was an HIV unit. Oh, and I became

friends with one of the guys and we talked and he broke it down for me. I asked him and then after that, I fell safe and I hung on the HIV unit for nine months. I don't have HIV. So they were right. I hung on that unit. I use the same utensils they used. That's scare. Can you imagine if I would have done baronuckle boxing in that time, people would have been really afraid because with baronuckle boxing, of course, you're going to get cut, right? So there's going to be blood. CTE wise, it's safer for you, but cutting, you know, that's, I think people would have freaked out. I think everybody needs to be tested 100%. That's still then you're going to freak out, especially at that time when it was at the, at the height that everybody was scared of it.

That fucking, I still can't get over that we're back to, everything makes a full circle. It does. We're back to fucking knuckle, hitting each other in the heads with fucking our hands. How cool is that though? Think about it. You know, we were talking about hard times, Johnny Hendricks, Brennan Ward. I mean, these guys are the main event. Johnny Hendricks, we all know he's got this crazy big left hand, but I bet you he's, he's not going to throw it full power because he knows he understands the rules now. If Brennan Ward just leans in, like I said, and he hit the top of the head, he's going to break his hand. If he didn't focus on his right hand, he's going to have a problem. You see, so now you're going to be more strategical. You're

going to have to, they also hit the, all the meaty parts. They hit the forearms, the shoulders, you know, the body, they focus on that. And the power shots go 40, 50% to the head because they, you know, yeah, you're going to get cut, but that's it. And by the way, with the cutting, we have plastic surgeons, actually we hired, instead of normal doctor, we said, no, we're going to pay a little bit more. We have plastic surgeons. So if you get cut, which will probably will help happen, you go to the back and you have a plastic surgeon there who's going to stitch you up, who's going to make it a nice little cut. And you know, as well as I do, one of the weight classes, still the same, same, the same. Yes. 155, 170. Yeah. And I think

even with boxing, the, the boxing weight classes, right? So they have even more weight classes. So that's exactly the same. The tapes, the hand, sorry, you have to tape minimum an inch behind your knuckles. So you can have any, cannot have any tape on the knuckles. But strategy wise, you know, I think it's, it's going to be a whole different ballgame, especially for the MMA fighters. Now also we have some professional boxers on there. So that's cool. Now we got an MMA fighter, actually Julian Lane, he is fighting an a pro pro boxer. So now we can tell, because all the pro boxers all the time say, oh, these MMA guys, we beat them up easy, you know, in boxing, well, here's your chance, you know, sign up WBKFF, sign a little note and say, hey, I want to fight

on your organization. I want to prove that boxing, that we have better hands than a mixed martial artist. And we team you up with a mixed martial artist on the show. Yeah, but a mixed martial artist can't use his elbows or his kick. No, he can't. But still, you know, the thing with the mixed martial artist is that we have a physically in a better shape. And listen, I'm not taking anything away from, I'm not saying anything. These guys are phenomenal. I mean, you can go 12 rounds full. I'm not saying that. It's an unbelievable thing. But once you are used to kicking, once you're used to kicking and to grappling and the grappling effect, that is what gets you really tired. Because every time when you crunch or when you protect the takedown,

you're working your core. Once your core starts pumping up, just like any other muscle in the body, well, guess what's behind your core, your lungs. And they don't only pump up to the front, but of course, they pump also inside. So now your lungs that normally go all the way in, you know, if the core starts pumping, you can't go breathe in all the way anymore because it's getting tight in there because all the muscles around it are getting tight. So but once you are used to that as a mixed martial artist and suddenly, like for instance, if I say to, if I do tiepads, that is that's punching, kicking, elbows, knees, everything, right? Or I do if I do seven rounds of five minutes of that, or I do boxing, I can do, I do 14 rounds of boxing, five minutes,

I'll just fly through that. If I'm in the shape that I can do seven rounds of five minutes and tieboxing with the kicks, that's how much the difference is with the shape, you just get really tight. That's what I always would say, but with boxers, even when you don't kick, you know, while you're boxing on the back on a heavy back suddenly, like every 30 seconds, throw out 10 right kicks, bang, bang, bang, as hard as you can, that breaks the breathing pattern, you get really tired and then you continue boxing again. It gets you in a way better shape because what I realized is I didn't have anybody to train with in Holland. I had a bag, my first year of pancreas, I pretty much trained on a bag two times a day, 12 rounds on the back. That's what I did 12 rounds of three

minutes. Well, if you do that for three, four months straight, you simply don't get tired anymore. You need to find things that get you tired, for instance, sprawling in between. Every 10 seconds, defense, you sprawl, you get back up and you continue. It breaks the breathing pattern, the interruption, and that's why you're getting tired, or there's 10 right kicks and 10 left kicks and then continue boxing again, but you got to come up with something because your body is getting so used to it that you can't really get really tired anymore. So you have to start adding the kicks and once you do that, you get tired again. But guess what? You get tired, you get used to that, then you start adding sprawls. And you know, it's just that evolution. But if you take a guy who

prepared himself for a five round fight in mixed martial arts and you put him in a boxing event, he can go the entire distance. And don't go tell me now all these people at home. We don't call them McGregor. Call them McGregor also gasses out in MMA, right? Gas in the third round. But that's what I'm saying. So, so yes, that's the third round. And there were three minute rounds. Yeah. And you see, he did eight rounds. He started the gas and by five. But eight rounds, he did pretty good seven rounds against Mayweather. You see, so that's what I'm saying. It's if he would have had a great stamina at that time, he would have gone the distance. I truly believe he would have gone the distance with Mayweather 10 rounds only, not 12. You know, and that would

have been an actually, I thought it was already incredible what he did. You know, he had pretty good boxing match. I thought when he was boxing against Mayweather. So but that's the only build stamina you can, you know, what we do is like, I have that workout, right? Is the boss with the workouts and an audio workout. It's really hard. The number three workouts called the MMA. That's with sprawls. So that is when I go for your combination, cross, cross, defense, got a sprawl back up, cross, cross, left, right, straight, right, straight, left, right, up, left, right, defense, you got a sprawl every time, sprawl, sprawl, sprawl, and they get you really tired. I had guys coming into my gym. We do five rounds of three minutes of that as a warm up with the

sprawls. These guys, they cannot even do the five rounds and they will, they will be fighting two or three weeks later. And they said, how can you do this? I said, this is just a warm up. We didn't even start the class. But the thing is, we just start doing it. And once you start doing something, you do it every day, within months, it becomes normal. You can do it. Now the minute break, we do kettlebell swings. We don't even take a break anymore. You know, there's kettlebell swings in the minute of the break, and then we go into the second round. Now we got a 20 minute, five rounds of three minutes with the minute breaks, that's 19 minutes in, as a warm up. And we had guys who had to fight two weeks later, they could not do the warm up.

That's a warm up? That's a warm up. And they go, it's like, what is this? I said, dude, we didn't even start. What do you do after that climb mountain? It was backwards. No, but with the spar, you know, my concept has always been very simple. I put myself, I make myself tired in the beginning of the training. And then the whole training, I learned how to deal with my power, with less power, and still using technique because I'm, you know, I tired myself. But once you start doing it, like I said, again, for a couple of months,

it becomes normal. And then suddenly you have to do something else again to make it even more. Everything you can get used to, it's just putting the work in, as I'm telling people, you know, people, it's always, oh, I can never do that. No, you want to lose 30 or 40 pounds? Yeah. Okay, give yourself half a year. Yeah, that's a long time. Half a year is nothing. In the lifetime, it's a blink and it's gone. But if you have a raise and you want to do it in two and a half months, now you're really going to force it. And then everything goes down the drain with the diet you're already talking about, or you cannot eat this. Don't tell yourself you cannot. Cannot. I'm 100% with you. Never. You know, oh, so you don't drink anymore? No, I will never say

that. Because sometimes you drink a glass of wine with it. Because if I don't do that, you know, yeah, I'm not going to be a happy camper anymore. At least me. Other people might be different, but at least it's me. You get used to everything. Just make it a habit and just keep it on doing it. And you'll be amazed what you can do. So you, because like I watched some fighters over the year. In fact, Connor's stamina this time impressed me. It was more. Yeah. Because there was a lot of grappling going on too. Yes, he impressed me. This time I thought he would die a lot sooner, but he impressed me this time. But even BJ Penn for years struggled with his stamina. I thought that it was maybe

just a weakness that some people have. They can't build on their stamina. No, what it is is, okay, 90% of the case, I can never say 100%. But I'm telling you that they control what they're doing in the gym. If their coach says you did three more rounds and they don't feel like it, then I'm simply not going to do it. Because there are that statue that the coach is not even going to say anything. You see, and that's the problem. And once you're technically very good and better than everybody else in the gym, you don't get tired because you school these people. What you need to do is bring a few pro boxers in or pro kickboxers who put the pressure on you and watch how suddenly you get tired again. Because it's territory that you

have never been in the breathing pattern. If you're totally calm, you can breathe as good. I could get fighters tired by just fainting. Because they would stand, you know, they start and they get tired to breathe, interrupt the breathing pattern, you know, that's why you get tired. You need guys I did. I never tapped in class. I mean, I may be five times in the last 20 years I've ever in enrolling. So I knew that I was pretty good there. So what I did, I did only shark tank exercises. Because otherwise I'm just working schools around school them and I don't get tired. So what I would do one and a half minutes with him one and a half one. There was a shark tank that I did one and a half minutes or like doctor of one and a half minute Pedro

Hizo marker and Marco who was do those rounds six minute rounds against the fresh guy every one and a half minute. That's a fun shark thing. Now you're going to be perfect. Trust me, you're going to get tired. But if I do this with white belts, I'm not going to get tired. I school these guys. And that's the problem. You need to bring people in who can beat you who better who are better than you. And if you can't get those, then you have to do it like I do. Get yourself tired. Another drill that I did. I would kick two minutes a kicking shield as hard as I can. Three right, three left, three right, three left. It started with a minute because then you're tired. If you do this really hard, extremely hard kicking, you're really tired after a minute,

but again, you're doing it over and over again. Suddenly becomes one and a half minute. And then you get tired as two minutes after two minutes. I throw the shield down. I lay on my back. They jump on top any position they want. And they start attacking. I start rolling, rolling. I roll only two minutes back two minutes kicking full power. Now he's got two minutes rest. So every time when I'm working and I'm getting more tired, he's taking a two minute break. And now I continue with him again. You see, so I make him stronger and stronger and make myself weaker and weaker. But that's the way you're going to get in shape. Hillsprints. They go, Oh, do it on the hill. Why don't you do it in the treadmill? That's what I used to do. Trap mill, you can't fool the treadmill. You can

pace yourself on Hillsprints. It's still good. Not saying that. But by the way, I did it. Good. I would go run 11, 12 miles an hour for 10 minutes. That's the warmup. Then the incline goes all the way up. I go to nine miles an hour. And I say all the way up when I was training. So it's 15% because nowadays you have trap mills would go 30%. So don't do that. You know, well, again, if you build it up, you probably can do it. Go slow 45 seconds on 30 seconds off 45 seconds on again, 30 seconds off. That is a killer. That always got me really hard. First five, six rounds easy. But boy, once you start doing seven, number eight, number nine, dude, you're getting extremely tired because the treadmill keeps going nine miles an hour. You can't slow down. You can't

pace yourself. You got to keep running, running, running, running, running. You know, and I found a lot of guys do it on seven miles an hour, eight miles an hour. For somehow, for me, it was, I build it up less legged acid if I would do it at a higher speed. Otherwise, I would do it at eight too. But somehow nine was easier for me to do than eight miles an hour. I don't know why. It's probably because of that. You know, you go faster and you don't build up as much like that. I have no clue. So, but again, you can choose to it. You like the treadmill and contrast is just sprinting just sprinting. Never, never just straight. I'm never like with my knees right now. I have bad knees right now. What I do treadmill, I put it all the way up and I walk with my legs stretched

because I have no cuts on my kneecaps. So stretch legs is no problem for me. I can kick too. I do these kicking drills. Do now almost every once every day. I try to work a pull workout I do. And then I do a kicking drill. The kicking drill is 15 rounds of one minute. So what you do is you kick as hard as you can for one minute. You take one minute off. And then again, one minute as hard as you can and one minute off as one minute after six, seven rounds. If you don't do this, you cannot do one minute anymore. It's really hard for you. How long does a punching bag last you? I feel like you kick through every new one. Well, at the gym, I just pick the ones out at the gym. So I never know when they go, when they break. But anyway, what I do then, if this is 10 weeks

before a fight, for instance, right? So I did a normal workout and then I'm going to do my half hour workout to one minute, one minute. Now, the one minute, one minute I do, once I have 15 rounds the next week, I do one minute, five seconds. And I take 55 seconds rest. So I add, I increase the work time with five seconds and take away five seconds of the rest time. And then a week later, I go five seconds only more. So slowly, but surely I do one minute, five, one minute, 10, one minute, 15, 45 seconds rest, one minute, 20, 40 seconds rest, until you hit after like 10 weeks, you're at one and a half minute rounds, full power with 30 seconds break. And people go like, well, you're going to be in the best shape of your life, trust me. Because how many times do

you see a boxer or a kickboxer, they put somebody in the corner and they unload for like 15 seconds, 20 seconds, and they're gassing. That's 20 seconds. I'm doing a minute and a half full blast, 15 of those rounds. So it's just training your body to throw out, relax, throw out, relax. And you just keep doing that. Eventually you get used to it like anything else in life. And you can do it. I learned more from you in one hour than fucking every time I'm around you. One hour, I get schooled. But that makes sense. They call that something, right? Like the hit program now? Yeah. Oh, I don't know. High intensity. High intensity. I've always been doing that. I've been doing that. You've been doing that since day one. Yes, since day one. That was my stamina. I used,

you know what, I had a really cool, we would go at six o'clock in the morning train because then there was nobody in the weightlifting room. We take 50 or 12 exercises. We do a power training, a pushing exercise, a pulling exercise, a conditioning exercise. And then you have 12, so 12 stations. And then we go around to 12. And it should go 50 seconds, 50 seconds. You give yourself 10 seconds to go to the next exercise. And then you do the exercise. You do the whole round of 12. That's 12 minutes. Then you take a minute break. And then that circle you do three times with 36 minutes. That's a very hard workout as well. Because what happens is you start pumping up, especially when you do abs. I challenge you, do 100 abs and go in a treadmill. You're going to

die because the abs start pumping up, like I said, and it starts also pumping up on the inside. So now your lungs cannot completely inhale anymore. That's why it's, you know, with the O2 trainer, that's why if you do this, this is proven by the way, guys, this, I have this in medical published medical journals. So this is 100% proven. If you do it two times a day, 30 repetitions in the morning and in the evening, if you do that for six weeks, after six weeks, you can maintain it by doing it once. But if you do that twice a day, you take care of all the lactate acid in your core. That you have no clue what that will do for you. That will do so much wonders for you. You can shoot up EPO you can do ever. That will never do as much for you

as if you take care of the lactate acid in your body, because that makes sure that it doesn't start pumping anymore. So you constantly have your lungs have space in order to breathe. You're a fucking genius. Right. Well, tell me, ask my wife. No, you're really up. I mean, you just, you just told us about bad knuckle boxing, Pepsi though, whatever, peptides. Peptides. Yeah. I love this. I've loved this since day one. When I saw you on there with somebody, I ordered it right away and I started the program from day one and I even walked with it. I made myself walk with it around the park in the beginning. I had to take it out because I would get dizzy, but then it just got used to it. Now, when my, I feel that

I'm smoking too much, this is what I fucking use to clean out my, and I'll do this in the morning. You know, we were just talking about it and I love that because I had the same thing. If I'm, if I'm having phlegm, right? And I feel my lungs, but I do 30 repetitions and listen, not even five minutes later, you cough everything out, right? It's so wild. I, and all my friends have the same thing. And what is it called? O2 trainer. The O2 trainer. The O2 trainer. Yeah. You know, go O2trainer.com. There's a video on there and you only, literally, for me, it takes less than three and a half minutes today. I do 30 repetitions. I have a Facebook page. It's a, it's a closed one, but everybody can join and I will accept them. It's boss with this O2 boot camp.

And you will see me since last May. I've been posting videos. I might have missed 10 because I've been traveling internationally or something, but that's it. Every single day I do a timelapse, so they don't have to, they can watch for 12 seconds or 15 seconds instead of watching the whole freaking thing for three and a half minutes. Nobody's going to do it anyway, but at least they can see that I do it because if I do it, hopefully I set the tone that you say, okay, I'm going to do it also. You know, it cured me of my asthma. All my friends cured me of their asthma. Nobody's using it and hey, let me know. One now, you go on the website, you read reviews from people that are writing to me that I'm, boss, it's officially, I have no more asthma, my doctor said.

You know, those things are for me insane because I made this invention when I was 14 years old. I was a severe asthma patient. I was a week in bed, eight days in bed, not able to eat because you couldn't breathe. 24 seven for eight days straight. But then after, when I did that, I would resume my track and field when my lungs would be open again. And once I would resume my track and field, I will break my running times. And it drove me nuts. I go, why is that every time after an attack, I'm running better until I saw a doctor, I saw a poster from a pair of lungs at the doctor's office. And you know, as a kid, you think that, and as an adult also that the infection is in your lungs, right? But it's not, it's the airpipes that go to the lungs. Those are infected. And they get,

and there was one open airpipe and next to it was a pipe that was closed like this. And that was literally 14 years old. I looked at it, I go, Oh man, I've been working out my lungs for eight days. I've been pulling in air through this little tiny hole. I've been, I made my in spirit by my inhaling system stronger. And now when suddenly the infection is gone, it's much easier for me to breathe. Oh, I got to come up with something that controls the air intake. And I started experimenting with like these coins from France, they had coins, we would go on vacation to France, coins with little holes in them. And I tried to put them in front of my teeth, you know, so I could only breathe through that thing. But yeah, if you get tired, and you breathe in,

your mouth opens, well, you're dead, you know, if that thing goes into your lungs. So I, but it's not always was in my head, constantly. And then finally, when I came here and talk, people always told, you know, always people at the parties, they say, I got an invention, I got this invention, this invention. And when I would tell my invention, every single person will go, dude, you got to make that that that's it. That's, so eventually I said, okay, I'll make it. I started training with the prototype. Now, listen, I carried an inhaler with me everywhere I went. If I would come here without inhaler, and I would sneeze like really violent, I sneeze three times, completely close my lungs,

have to mope them up to the there, but in here. So if I would travel without an inhaler, I would be doomed. I always need every fight I had every single fight I had in my life in the dressing room, I have to spray my lungs open because it's exercise induced, they call it. Like a lot of asthma patients have it. If they take a sprint, a hundred meter sprint, they stop, they're good for about a minute, boom, lungs close up, then they need the inhaler to open it up. I trained with the prototype, maybe two and a half maximum three weeks. I've never used my inhaler anymore. I don't carry with me. I don't have it in my bag, not even as a backup thing in my room, nothing with me. It's complete freedom. Because these bulky things, you don't want to have any pants off

everywhere you go. So I sent it to a friend of mine in Holland who had asthma. And I said, here, try this out. You know, this is crazy. And that time we used to train with it instead of doing the exercises. And he called me a week later. He says, I want to sell him in Europe. I said, why? He says, my asthma is gone. I got a week. And then I started bringing it to everybody with asthma. And it was freaking, during their asthma, I go, man, we're onto something. So now I'm in talk. I have some really good, the guy who trains Usain Bolt, when he trains three other gold medalists from the last Olympics and the silver medalist in boxing, Chad Masias. He's a very smart guy scientist. And he wrote a really bad review about my competition as a product. And my manager

called me and said, did you read the review? I said, about what? About that so-and-so product? And I said, no, but I can tell you that it sucked, right? The review. And he says, how? I said, because they control the air in and out. I said, it's not a good concept. You only have to control the air in because then you can completely exhaling your lungs. You can empty your lungs and entirely fill them back up again. But if you do with resistance, there's always air left in your lungs, right? You cannot completely clean them out. So they all said that I was crazy. And now suddenly they want to partner up with me because guess what? I have the patent. But anyway, I told the guy, my manager, called the guy who wrote the review. If you can find out who that is, I want

to send him an O2 trainer. And he tells me, you sure you want to do that? Because what if they go to write a bad review? I said, they're not because I know it cured me from my asthma. All the other people, it's going to be good. Trust me. He finds the guy, calls the guy, says, hey, I'm representing Bas Ruten. Guys answer right away. Oh, O2 trainer, we're already doing that. Boom. Now I had suddenly 12 or 18 published medical journals because they're already using that. And whether it's in 100% proven, because that's what it means. If it's a published medical journal, that means it's 100% proven. I always tell people, if you know, if this is clinically tested, don't buy that product. Because if it was clinically proven, it would have said clinically proven.

Clinically tested doesn't mean anything. What was the result of that test? That's what you want to ask. But people nowadays, they're so always clinically tested, it's got to be good because they read the word clinically and they think it's good. No, no, no. If it's clinically tested, it's not a good product. Because if it's clinically tested and it would be proven, it would have said clinically proven. That's where you want to look for. And that's a published medical journal. That's clinically proven. And you can find it. You notice in published medical journals online, you can literally look in there and that's where you can find the test. Well, I use it. So I don't need to read no fucking test. There you go. I'm a believer. I'm like Ozzy Osbourne in 81. I'm a

believer. But you didn't hear the bat. No, fuck that shit. No, this is, I told you, I ordered it. When I saw you on Rogan, I didn't even know who you were really. I know you were, but I didn't even really think about it. And right away, I felt it. I went up the ladder. I'm up to the last hole. And I sit there at night in the mornings. And when I'm doing things, I'll pop it in, especially if I hear a lot of wheezing. If I hear a lot of wheezing, which the listener is here. And I work on that wheezing. It's the 30 years of smoking pot. There's nothing you can do. But this takes that top layer of phlegma. It really does clean it out. You know what? I had a great thinking about Belize, all right? You know,

Belize also. Right. Yeah, we did the video together. That's why. So what happened? I forced myself with this to stop breathing with my shoulders. That's all that stuff I did. I think you put me in contact with her, right? That was in the beginning. Yes. I told her that you guys had to get together. So I went over to the Park Fifth Avenue where she has her office, right? I'm coming in there. She says, okay, first thing we're going to do is measure your chest. So I'm breathing out. And then she measured my chest. She says, oh, she's freaking out. She goes, what? She says, no, do it again. Do it again. That's not possible. She does it again. I breathe in again. And she goes,

oh, you're going to have to wait. And she runs out and she comes back with another doctor. And I go, okay, what's going on? She said, well, if I wouldn't do this, he would never believe it. I said, what's going on? She said, okay, my inhale, normally when somebody breaks a record. So what they do, they measure how much your chest expands, right? Because that's how much air you can pull in. Because that's how your lungs open up by your chest expanding. Your lungs don't do anything. There's a vacuum between the lungs and the body. And if you expand this, that's how your lungs go open. The muscles almost don't do anything. It's all your upper body doing it. The more you can expand, the more air you can pull in.

She says, normally when somebody breaks the record here, it's like an eighth of an inch, maybe maybe maybe a quarter of an inch, you just broke it over almost two and a half inch. She says, this is insane. And the only thing that I've been doing different than everybody else she was was the auto trainer. So now she on her breathing classes, she gives everybody an auto trainer. She says, start breathing with this. So we have a really good relationship now together because she's focusing on the breathing out part. I'm focusing on the breathing in part. But I know I know people say, yeah, but you cannot do it both because you just said that. No, no, no, no, you cannot do it simultaneously. You won't find a test that's good. Yeah, maybe a test written by

the person who invented that thing will say it's good. But a real test will not say that. But if you switch it up, if you do one day you're inhaling and the next day you do your exhaling the way she does with the balloon, you know, then you strengthen both muscles and then it's a really good combination to do. So it works both as long as you don't do it simultaneously, out with resistance, in with resistance, that's not going to work. Bob's rooting from breathing to bed knuckle beatings. You're going to watch a show, right? Everyway Champ. One day, is it? It's November 9th. I'll be, it's a Friday night. It's a Friday night. And I'll be in New York City doing two shows, but I will promise to tape it and give a review of my

own on the animalistic ways. I would love that. I love all that shit. Oh, it's that bass, man. But once I see blood, I start fainting. I fainted at the UFC one time. Oh, no, don't tell me that. Keep your phrase to yourself, dude. I came faint to the UFC when they threw the towel out of the ring and it was covered with blood. I just went out. Wow. And when BJ Penn beat up big daddy Stevenson, that was the most blood ever in the ring. Oh, with the elbows. It was at one in the morning. All the puddle was there on the floor, remember? And I remember being on the couch, the next thing waking up at like four in the morning, going, what the fuck? Wow. Yeah, I can't watch. Is your periscope yourself watching and just waking up every few minutes on the hook?

I shouldn't know, but with your little needles, you can even use a needle. No, I don't like needles. I got to look the other way. I got to have an iPod on. I got to listen to music. I got to trust a lady. Yeah. I got a little lady down at Bob Hope. She knows exactly how to handle Uncle Joey. They come in with the cart. I looked the other way, the window. I got to see light coming in and then I know I'm safe. Yeah. If I do it in a room with no windows, I get claustrophobic. Okay. Gotta be really careful. Always a pleasure, brother. Yeah, man. Always a pleasure. Thank you so much. Always a pleasure spreading the O2 trainer. I love it. You know, it's helped me dramatically. I mean, I'm not fucking jumping over windows, but I'm doing a lot better than I was.

Yeah, man. I'm so happy to hear that. All right. So November 9th, and then what do you think after that? Is it going to be a monthly card? No, I think in February, they were kind of going for that. We're doing a lot of fun stuff, good stuff as well. It's a very classy show. Jimmy Landon Jr. is going to be the ring announcer. We got Kenny Rice back with me in the commentating booth. I worked with him for such a long time. He was like my brother. And I said, we, and he's got that old voice, you know, Jimmy Landon also. Like these young gentlemen, you know, they've got that Kenny little voice, what I love about him. I was so excited that he, he was the voice for my last fight in 2006. And he was the announcer. I go, there's no way Jimmy Landon Jr. So I called him

and then he said to your boss, you know, for you, I would do anything. So they came over, Bert Watson, we have Bert Watson running backstage, all the stuff. Okay. Kenny Rice is in there. Yeah, we, you know, the microphone is going to come from the top down like the old boxing. We got the ring goals and nightgowns. We make it a very classy show. And then we let the boxing speak for itself, you know, because, you know, it will be bloody. But our competition is their last show for what I believe. I believe that 14 fights. There was one knockout and it was one broken hand. And there was some little cuts there. So CTE wise, yeah, I hope people really don't believe what I'm saying. And Google it is bare knuckle boxing, say for them boxing, because then you

will find out that pretty much every single test will tell you it's actually safer because you hit the head less hard. So yeah, do the homework, come watch the show, 29.95, man. That's a right. That's nothing. You know, so if you want to do the high def, yeah, that's going to cost you $50 now, no $10 more. I got glasses. You know what I'm saying? That's what I mean. I got 3d glasses. Yeah. Get the 29.95, get the 3d glasses at the as long as the blood doesn't come out of the TV and you pass out. You're fine. I love you, brother. I love you too. Taking the time and coming on to that. The church is brought to you today by TheRidgeWallet.com. Listen to me. The Ridge is a minimalist front pocket wallet that helps reevaluate your everyday carry. Launched by a

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