Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #656 - Rudy Sarzo

Episode Date: February 7, 2019

Rudy Sarzo, a Bass player who has played with, The Guess Who, Ozzy Osbourne, and Whitesnake, and is the host of "The Dash" podcast joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: 23andme.com - 23andMe is a DNA testing service that can offer you insights on to how your DNA can influence your weight, sleep quality and much more. Order your 23andMe health and ancestry kit at 23andMe.com/church.     Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout. Recorded live on 02/06/19.  

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little Judas Priest old school you fucking kidding me or what it's Thursday morning cocksuckers watch that monkey how are those balls Harvey Weinstein's alive and kicking do it are driving me Rudy Sarzo in the house your mother the motherfucking Christ killer sharpening his knives getting ready for fucking length and you got uncle Joey here what's happening you bad motherfuckers thank you I hope you don't worry about length all right I just it's an expression whatever the fuck it's pretty soon though it's creeping up on you one day you're walking around next

They fucking white people have ashes on that and you got to give something up You got to give something up. Would you ever give up anything for length? No, never. No, I mean I got nothing else left I give up shit for like every year. I Remember the first time I saw people with the Freaked out. Oh, yeah, they just came from the Jewish lightning. They just come from burning the house. They got ashes on their face What else would you put ash on your fucking face? You know I'm saying and we live in sensitive times. Look at that poor governor That fucking poor governor they're going after him for his fucking med school yearbook Because he has him with a picture of a clue

And he had black face on and people are losing their minds first of all, did you even go to med school? Why the fuck do you care fucking poor guy? We want to make a big deal about anything today that but he and he loved Michael Jackson He said he put dark face on one time for a Michael Jackson party and he wore the slippers They even asked him. Can you moonwalk and his wife told him not to did you see this? World moves tonight tremendous. There's some fucked up shit going on freedom of speech And now the third in line said he did it too. Everyone's just copping to it before they get caught. Yeah, okay. Listen, yeah one time in

1983 it was Aspen, Colorado, they have the second biggest mall walk It's called a mall crawl in Colorado boldest number one obviously the homeless people get in on it. They play the drums It's a fucking stinkfest. Everybody's got those Birkenstock enzyme with their feet smelling like goat shit And Aspen had the same thing So I came home from an electrical company

Did I work that me Jimmy Burkle God rest his soul and Kato? Had an idea we were 19 years old. I think Jimmy was 21. We were 19 years old We were gonna dress up with long thermal underwear and White sneakers and put a hanger around our necks and go to the mall wall as abortions Let me tell you what happened Monday night football started as fucking seven We ate a Coyloot and we passed out like we did this superbowl We woke up at midnight with these fucking hangers around our neck and well, I thank God we didn't go up there. Thank God So when I do that you know Zion, it was tasteless

It was a tasteless thing to do at the age of 19, which we've all done something tasteless at the age of 19 You know, at least the guy wasn't fucking med school, but this is the society. I'm petrified of That they can just pull something out of your fucking high school yearbook Thank God I fucking quit school See the advantages of fucking not being in the yearbook and get a GED and this crazy how times change though if you think about it like They were okay with that picture being in the yearbook It's a kick a guy and a fucking guy in blackface I'll get it out with a fucking Budweiser like Americans

My true Americans having a good time I can see if they were there drinking German beer and they were part-time Nazis or something like that dressed up with a fucking blackface But they have you know, they just having a good time in the dorm room Cracking jokes first off the next Budweiser commercial racism is something that You have to eliminate that reaction early on like I knew when I got to New York City in 1967 That the word spic I knew what it meant

I had been called a spic on 88th Street a couple times I didn't know how to react and I went to my mom and I asked her and She flung her cigarette took a swig of her beer and she's like If they don't call you a nickname, they don't like it She just turned around and walked away and I was like, you know what she's right At least they call you a fucking spick I can see if they don't call you nothing and then you just learned to deal with it And then I started going up to 148th Street

Where the white kids hung out with Puerto Ricans and they weren't allowed to say that word spick They would say it but even you had to get desensitized You know, you had to get desensitized They taught you like your mom in those days would say shut up sticks and stones will break your bones But words will never hurt you That was the old adage My first friend was black His name was Jasper Williams

And they used to call him Casper Jasper the friendly ghost Like they would torment them and call him a ghost and all this shit That he was the only black ghost why does father call him Jasper? And I remember him dealing with it By now, I know wherever Jasper is in this world If you call him a nigga, he'll just flank his arm on you We've been listening to it since I was 10

You're not gonna do nothing to me. It's not effective It's not effective How do you feel about it? When was the first time you got called a spick ever? Oh, yeah In what New York? Yeah, but you know the way I figure is you know ignorance You know and This person's calling me names because he's probably never socialized or met anybody like me

So it's only Their only reference is from somebody else's experience or reference So it is my my responsibility to let this person know What this latino guano person is really like Just put it brained in me by a random Identification such as a spick It doesn't make any sense. You you you don't know who I am You've never been to my house, but

Here let me show you who I am You know and then then you can call me a friend. You can call me a neighbor Whatever you want, but first let me give me the option To educate you on who I am and hopefully you can get a sense of Who my people are Like from knowing me, you know usually thinks, you know, it's it's like ignorance breeds Racism, you know in my neighborhood

We have I got a rush in across the street. We have Afro-americans down the street. I have seeks right next door I mean, it's it's like a little it's a melting pot We're all neighbors when the holidays come We'll give gifts no matter what our religious background is to each other. We respect each other Because we know each other You know and and to me that from traveling around the world The more you get to know people around the world the more you realize how much in common We really have as human beings. We're all in the same planet

You know and what happens is is through generations and poor references Of history things that happened during history, you know that people Hand down through generations negative Identities to certain Religious groups or call or or societies or cultures, you know, just because they don't know who these people are Once you go to their country you visit them like Russia You know, I grew up during the Cold War And the propaganda was that Russian women. They were all fat. They're ugly and and horrible

I once I traveled to Russia and you know, and even former Russian Republic Soviet republics like the Ukraine and Belarus and you know, so on They are the most beautiful women that I've met in in Europe and all of Europe You know, I I believe the United States has the most beautiful women in the world because it's a combination of all the countries coming in to America, you know and And bringing all, you know, the finest example of people to the United States But if you go to Europe, I mean some of them, you know, the most beautiful women you're going to meet are actually Russian I mean, do you think that your travel is part of the reason why both of you

Don't get caught up in a lot of this because a you've been you've met all different types of people. So you've been Uh verbally attacked or abused by Everybody you've heard everything, but then you've also on the flip side. You've gone to meet Every different kind of person and you've made friends with them. So it's hard to hate them when your friends was oh, that's like jimmy Like do you think that if you hadn't traveled as much you would have been a little bit more closed-minded? I don't travel Yes, you do. No, I don't I travel in the country I don't travel abroad

I just decided On how that word felt early on and I knew that if I picked you have to pick your battles when you were a kid on the street You got to pick your battles So in those days in the early 70s when I went out there was a bunch of tough kids in this neighborhood 20 kids You didn't protect your honor as much as your mother The big word was motherfucker

If I called your motherfucker, you had a fight And then your reply was keep your mother off the street and I won't fuck it And then we would have to throw punches or something to get here with a bottle So big you just let go In those days it was your mother or if they called you uh a gay name, you know Then you had a fucking throw punches. That's just the way it was So nobody could really say nothing about your mother in those days your mother's

Your mother was sacred and when I came from Cuba those kids I ran with you couldn't say nothing about that mother They'd be on top here before you said the So you let the spit go You know and no when I when I was growing up in 88th street. It was a very Yeah, my little girl from was chinese her father was a draw for Charles Schultz and we would go to the premiers of snoopy and shit in kindergarten in the first grade I was very tight with their family. They would give me candy with paper on it and shit for Christmas But everybody else in that neighborhood was predominantly white and that's where I was called the speck

But I didn't really give a fuck like I had I I was overcoming language barriers. I got it And I remember getting to until this day it haunts me That there was a laundry mat across the street from 205 west 88th street And I went across the street and the mother pulled me over until this day It was to stay away from her daughter because I was smaddish

Like I thought about that conversation for a long time. She she said some of you. Yeah Her little girl was cute. I was cute She was in my class or something. You know, we would walk together And one day she pulled me aside and she goes you can't walk with us or something like that And I wasn't hurt that he I'm telling you guys as as men I'm ladies. I wasn't hurt I was in surprised So when I started going up to my godmother's house On 148th street the reception was so much different

To me being spanish even from the white kids The white kids were taking me to the house to eat before the Puerto Ricans And they weren't white. They were fucking tough irish white Trash that would live and die for you If I still remembered their names, I would fly out and meet them And podcast them expose our world to them at those days what we did how we made money Then there was the sidenio family

They were a Puerto Rican family had nine kids And they lived in a two bedroom and everybody slept on the floor with fans You never seen them like that So here I was living on 88th street Rudy with my own bedroom with air conditioning With my own stereo in my room, but on the weekends I would go to my godmother and seen how people really lived So I would play my money down. I would play my money. Where do you live? I would say in jersey I would never say 88th street I would never say 88 those kids taught me

about being thankful and How their parents worked all day and they wouldn't see their dads and moms and You know, it was a different world up there But that's where the word spic got taken away. And then I moved to jersey and in jersey Everybody calls you a speck Like the neighbor I moved to everybody calls you a speck and there was only two specks in that neighborhood It was me and Carlos Perez

So now that was a different challenge. The challenge was I would be a speck until I could prove to these savages That I was crazy or as crazy as they were And then the speck went away And that's exactly what I did You know, I had the same experience because when you and I arrive in the united states, there weren't that many Latinos

No, ricky ricardo was the only one and everybody loved him If you didn't know ricky ricardo, you weren't shit if you were especially in jersey when when we were relocated to jersey afterwards I had that experience. But when I arrived in Miami in 1961 We had a uh, we were sick What was considered second generation of cubans arriving because the first generation were the the upper class That left cuba right after batista. Yeah. Yeah pre batista and and a lot of them as soon as the revolution Happened they jumped in their yachts and and went to Miami to to actually live in their summer homes Because they had, you know homes in in cuba and homes in Miami

So I I met a lot of girls who their parents actually, you know, were industrialists, you know People that own industries in cuba and they were actually living in Miami But in their their vacation home basically, you know And so when I got there in 61 because it took my parents somebody over a year to get all the work You know the the visas, you know the visa and the passport and you know, we'll have somebody claim us, you know We go we came here legally and uh, but so by the time we got in we're still You know, we moved right into southwest las auesera, you know in Miami, which is it was basically a few blocks Of just it was a cuban ghetto

Just all families from cuba moving in And what happens is okay while the parents were struggling to make a living The kids We were misplaced mentally You know, we just didn't know how to handle it except to get the anger Of us being in a foreign country trying to simulate trying to adapt not really knowing

Very much how to do it because your parents now we're doing two jobs And I have to take care of my little brother because my mom and dad had to go to work So all of a sudden I'm babysitting My little brother who was maybe at the time seven years old You know, and I'm 11 and it's like how am I gonna I've never done this before So, you know, you're kind of like now you're protecting your brother. You're trying to get an identity You're dealing with other cuban kids who are pissed off too So it all came down to what you're talking about

Each, you know, a lot of confrontations all the time not from outsiders, but from our own Because we were misplaced. We just didn't even know how to fit in because as soon as you left the neighborhood and you went to school That's a whole that's a whole, you know, story because now you're you're in the school with like the first generation of Cubans that got there now that they felt a little bit superior to you because they have been there for two years now so they were experienced, you know in the American culture and society then you have lo americano And they just don't want to have anything to do with you Because they thought well first of all these guys are going to be gone from here

You know very soon because the whole thing cuba is going to be resolved And well, you know 50 years later. It still hasn't been resolved. You know 60 years later so Yeah, I had to deal with a lot of that and then on top of that once we were relocated to new jersey that was a whole set Of uh circumstances that as a kid was very tough in my high school, there was The white cafeteria and the jox cafeteria and there was a spick cafeteria

With the spanish kids went into the And I would go in between both Was it official from the school or just It was unofficial So nobody got their feelings hurt That's what the spicks ain't That's what the white kids ain't And the teachers ain't there so really didn't make it look bad

The teachers had a lounge in there. Oh, okay But that's where I'll never forget one of my favorite teachers of all time was talking to me in front of that place And while he was talking to me from a distance A kid walked in between him and stepped on his shoes And mr. T looked on he was pardon me And the kid goes, what happened? He goes Look next time get your hoop-doop-de-doop merengue shoes off my feet

And I'll never forget dying my ass off the kid was offended Hoop-doop-de-doop merengue shoes off my feet And the kid nearly died, but it was official but unofficial That the cuban kids mind did not really they would just happen to be in this country They would just happen to be in this country somebody put up my sixth grade picture the other day My sixth grade mr. King wall's class. No, it was seventh grade mr. La Vito the motherfucker left me back And in that class there were three kids That you could obviously tell

When not 12 years old One kid's name was Juan Soto The other kid's name was Lazarito Vila and I forget what the other kid's name was They were shipped in the seventh grade in those days If you had been in the american system for too long because it was taking you too long to learn english They would just keep you in the seventh grade Like two or three times and by that time louis zaldivar you could tell he was starting to get a beard I wish it was another girl put it up

So I couldn't take it down from her thing Or really share it. I tried but it wouldn't let me share it And it shows me in the top with like a white t-shirt on with like this fucking pornographic shirt on And mr. La Vito's class But those drove Juan Soto Quit school in the seventh grade because he knocked the girl up And he had to go to work. I'll never forget still walking home with him on his last day of school

And him telling me brah. I gotta go load trucks them all He was how old are you in the seventh grade? Uh, they pulled me back one grade when I when we came here. So how old are you usually in the seventh grade? 12? He was 15. Yeah, yeah, he was 15. Yeah, probably skip a couple of years. Yeah, he was 15 He already was a man in the sixth seventh grade And they were gonna skip him and Lazarito Vila

They pulled him. I remember seeing him Punched the principal in the fucking head Went a straight arm one day in the basement when I was eating lunch by myself I saw him say something to Lazarito and Lazarito told fuck off And the teacher got in his face and before the teacher could even square Lazarito caught him in the jaw Where there was straight arm and the teacher was legs went out from under him. He was trying to walk and he kept saying I'm down. I'm going to the office

I mean, that's how tough those kids were but they would hold you Back until you learned the language. I mean, I'm not saying it's racist or whatever. I'm just saying that They wanted you to speak enough English to at least Be able to move around in high school These guys were refusing to do it. There's cubans that have gotten here in 1959 That still refused to learn the language because they always thought they were going to go back to Cuba And it was going to be a waste of their time

My parents my mom and dad They didn't learn English until I left I left I had left home. They were just Those, you know them too my mom and dad living at home. So they have free time. So they started going to a night school to learn English My dad never really learned it. My mom picked up with some of it enough because then again No matter how much English you learn when you're in Miami First of all, you're learning from from Cuban teachers that don't necessarily have the best accent, you know Second of all, there's nobody really in Miami to practice it with because all the other cubans especially in the area that my mom lives

They all speak Spanish How old were you when your woodstock hit? When woodstock happened. Were you here? Oh, yeah. Well, um, I was I was born in 1950. So I must have been what woodstock was 1669. Yeah 18 18. Yeah. Do you remember the event? Yeah, I remember Yeah, but yeah, but I heard about it on the radio. I was 18. I was already playing bars in Miami. So it wasn't like You know, I I had commitments, you know, locally So it wasn't like I was you know, gonna hop in the car and drive all the way to woodstock, you know, I had gigs Yeah, gigs. Yeah

How did you feel? the other dad was listening to uh Woodstock, you know, the album I happened here or whatever I just put on the Santana parts Oh, no, I was watching on youtube Do you remember hearing Santana for the first time? Well, remember? Yeah, I did just it gave me hope for all for the first time, you know, I

Because I completely understood being born in Cuba and having afro-cuban music Uh the foundation of what my musical background is, you know, I was listening to afro-cuban music or or even, you know Celia Cruz, Lando La Serie, you know Any of that music before I came to the United States before rock and roll because we're talking early 50s, you know and So when I came to America, then you have blues bass rock and roll and if you look at it, they're all Afro-cuban music blues bass rock and roll it all comes from the same african influence

So that's what Santana did. He blended both the afro-cuban and the blues into one sound And there you go. And to me that's just the best representation of rock music I mean, he did it spectacular. Oh fantastic spectacular even the other night I heard uh The one he did with Rob Thomas 30 years later. Yeah, he's still at it that element of yeah That Spanish yeah, yeah, actually the the first musician to incorporate in their in american influence music

Which is jazz to incorporate latin rhythms was was uh, dizzy gillespie with manteca when you have manteca in the group and Duke Ellington had some of that, you know, if you listen to caravan He has a you know, a lot of latin percussion in there But actually as a sound as a direction of a group dizzy gillespie went into latin jazz Well dizzy went to cuba. Oh, yeah, he did

Then you go to when he when did he get influenced with latin jazz after cuba when manteca joined the band or before cuba Oh, yeah Well, I see i don't know i don't know if if dizzy had Actually met manteca in cuba or they met in new york city, but that was the biggest influence he had Now manteca was wasn't percussionist. Yeah, but it wasn't that you know what they call them manteca They smoked a lot of weed really manteca weed when i was a kid manteca. Yeah, yeah, so Who was the guy he was visiting in cuba dizzy? He became friends with then he got him out Sandoval

But the wife was a communist. She didn't really want to leave That was a that was a good little story. I know. Yeah, the only story I know is what I saw in the hpo made for, you know Right, dandy. I see it. Yeah, somebody reached out to me and said that Arturo sandoval jr. Either does a radio show or a podcast And he wanted me to go on and I just don't know much about his father and his roots I just saw him from what I know in that hbo movie Yeah, and then I asked a couple for you cuba and they were like arturo is cool. His wife was the kami bitch so I can't really

you know Go on this all I know about arturo the First time I met him. I it was 1994 at a billboard awards latin billboard award in miami somebody introduced me to to him and they told him which I was on Going on tour actually doing a show In russia in 1994 with white snake and when he hears that i'm going to russia He just like he just threw his arms up in the air and said man

He freaked out because he just didn't want to you know, that was a bad experience for him the whole communist You know communism and cuba Experience for him was awful when you went to russia. What'd you see? I should you know, let me tell you exactly what I saw from the stage Of course, you know, we went there with the promoter, you know, and when you go there on a what it's called It's 1994 you know, so when you go there on a almost a What do you call that, you know a government?

You know a good will tour, you know What I saw this was it was my experience and it just it just it was incredibly moving for me To be on stage and watch grown men crying Because we were playing the music that just a few years before it was they could have gone to jail For listening to it because rock and roll was outlawed during the the whole communist regime in in russia, you know So for them to finally feel free that was that was that was freedom and I was moving and moved to tears because Still my country

My own country, you know my my country of birth because the u.s. Is my country by my country of birth Still it's still a communist country, you know And and it's just it just gave me hope that the place that the birthplace of communism is not communist anymore, you know But my country still that my country of birth still is but it just gave me hope that hopefully someday, you know, it will be free again And then the scorpions go over there to a bunch of people. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes, that's right I've got before before we actually play there. We what we were doing was is called the white nights festival White nights is because at the end of june It's it's for about a week. The sun does not set

You know, it's just daylight So it's white nights And we landed a midnight and it was like like noon, you know, basically So we went, you know straight to some big party Going on in some some embassy or something and then we just we were there for like five days, you know Before we did the show and we went to the museums and you know, we were taking care of fantastic You know, it was really great and we got to meet the people and you got to find out that Everybody will have one thing in common. You know, we want to have

Be able to provide for our families give our families the best life possible And I found russia one of the most religious countries That i've ever visited because it was religion that gave them hope if you look Books of the churches in russia, they were the best maintained churches because Staling knew and this is according to the locals because I asked a lot of questions While I was there, you know me coming from a communist country myself

I asked him a lot of questions. So chas wow, I was no I I did not realize that churches, you know, it still existed in russia And their answer was it says they say look, you know, we staling knew that he could not take god Away from the people he could not take hope Faith away from them. So he just turned a blind eye to To certain, you know, like christmases and certain religious dates and let the people celebrate them But it was not an official government sanction

Celebration it was just something that the people did on their own So they maintained the churches the people themselves maintain the churches really really well. So later on Uh, the church is, you know, every time what I would because I've done a lot of tours in in russia ever since, you know With d.o. And so in some other bands and every time you arrive in a In a in a in a town in the middle of russia you go to the The center of the city and there will be a beautiful church Maintain, you know the dome and all Painted in gold and all of that. So

You know, I think that that's that's that gave The the people during the communist era a lot of hope and a lot of faith Otherwise, they don't think that they would have been able to survive it. How was your stint with white snake? How was it? Yeah, how long were you there for? I joined the band in 87 and my last show was in 94 That's seven fucking years three albums Uh, actually I recorded one Uh, uh slip of the tongue we toured on the 87 record. That was the the record was done before

the the band The band joined, you know, that's when the vivian camber ledger and vandenberg tommy aldrich and I joined the band For the making of slip of the still of the night video And then we we stayed in in the group and we we just you know kept being members As a matter of fact, tommy aldrich is still as a member of uh of white snake. They're about to tour Yeah, they they you know all these bands death leper white snake everybody they they go on tour every year What is that fucking tie? I mean It tells me that that the music is really timeless

People, you know, you it not only are you performing for the the uh the older fans You know the other core fans, but you're also you're you're performing for the new generation of fans And then you were you toured with them to 84 whites 94 94. Yeah. Yeah. I was an Aussie from 81 to 82 I Rejoined what is known as the metal health version of choir ride because there was the randy roads version of choir ride before that in 82 I rejoined that as a matter of fact, I recorded uh speak of the devil and and started working on metal health at at the same time

Exactly, you know, like I did one record and then I came back to LA and continued working on the other record You know, so it's as a matter of fact. I in in the 80s. I recorded five consecutive multi platinum albums In the 80s in a row I did the tribute album, which is live with uh with uh with randy I did the speak of the devil, which is the re-recordings of black Sabbath metal health Conditioned critical and slip of the tongue all of them multi platinum

Three different bands Yeah, I went to the house I saw What is it like when you start hearing That an album you worked on because platinum means what 10 million no one million one million Yeah, gold is half a million platinum is one and then multi platinum just are going to two three four and so on Diamond is 10 million diamond diamond Like that's such a crazy number because you just record it in the studio And I know you're going on tour so you have an idea that some people like you

But they have a million people buy an album that must be crazy. Yeah, because they had to buy the record In whatever format they have to buy it in a vinyl or cd or or cassette or Once once it started going into streaming like we have today. It's a whole different ball game you know But like what emotions like do you remember the first album you had that went platinum? Well, let's see if I'm going chronologically because okay, uh Actually the first one that I received that was platinum Was not a record that I played on but it was actually a record that I toured on

Okay, it was one of them was a blizzard and the other one diary, you know and and people Online, you know social media to say hey, how come you got a you know a platinum record Or gold record for something you do not play on it's because if you look at the plaque The plaque clearly says to commemorate the sale of So many records right and your name That's why when you go to a lawyer's office They have gold records on the wall because they were the lawyers representing the artist for the record deal You go to a dentist

Could be the guy who did the veneers for the singer. He gets a gold record. You can give a record gold record to your parents You know, it doesn't necessarily mean that you played on the record. I received it because I toured And I was kind of like the the salesperson On stage among with the band selling selling those records I got to take this back because I was in the car with my wife the other night And one of your albums came on One of your songs came on And my wife read about you and she goes

He played on this But they took them off this You know, that wasn't me I you did not do blizzard of eyes Oh, no, it was not you in the original recording. No, that was that was bob basely As a matter of fact blizzard and diary were recorded before tommy aldrich and I joined the band No, shit. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I wrote about her in my book. It's very clear. Yeah, I thought you wrote them And then she took the bass lines out so you wouldn't get any money. Well, that happened

But I had nothing to do with me What do you mean I'm what I'm what albums? Well, there is a version of blizzard of eyes and diary that was rerecorded by other musicians But I'm not involved in that. Yeah, I wasn't even in the band. I mean, that happened like years after I left Aussie so When they first did the first blizzard, that's still randy Oh, yeah, okay. That's randy. Yes. Yeah, you know randy is in every single version the of blizzard and diary of imatement

What you're talking about is when those records were the rhythm section the drums and the bass were replaced By different rhythm section, but that was I way after I left the band. I had nothing to do with me. So, okay, so Tommy Bob whatever basely Randy and Aussie do the first out. No, no Lee Lee Kersley Lee Kersley Lee Kersley from the right heap Yeah, the first album. Yeah, and and the second they did it back to back It's like they so so say toe and all that was done all at one shot Uh, yes, yo sato diary of a madman

All that was done in one shot and blizzard. Well blizzard was recorded then they they did a small like a like a tour Okay, yeah, well the ep. Yeah and all that and then they did diary and I have what once diary was in the can That's when they they decided to let go of bob and lee and get Tommy Tommy was in the band before I joined the band then they got me in the band Randy got me in the band. Yeah, okay And that's the thing that's the band that toured blizzard and diary. Yeah So, yeah, fuck. Yeah, you toured it. I told you brought it out there. Yeah, you get great I mean, you know, I I did as much to get those, you know to earn those gold records as a lawyer or the dentist that

Has those gold records on the wall, you know, well, you know, man, I'm sure you added your own type of licks In your own type of style to those. Yeah, but so whether or not they kept buying albums They kept buying albums after you on the road. Oh, absolutely. And you know, it It's You're hired to do something elaborate this way if it wasn't me, it would have been somebody else You know, and I'm glad it was me and while I was there I was I was just respecting and celebrating what the what was played on the record

and Just like everybody should I was sticking basically to what was on the record that everybody was familiar with, you know You can't you shouldn't reinvent the wheel, you know, it's it's it's it's a great record So just play it as it is Very simple Never taking any credit for being the guy who played on it because that I that's not me Who wants to do that? That's crazy, you know, you have to respect You know people's contributions, you know and celebrate them, you know

and Later on, you know, I got to record, you know, do the Metal health record before I joined the band. There were two songs that were already recorded and it's credited The current bass player Chuck Wright. He recorded metal health and the one I let you go and Do you know the story how I got to go back into quiet riot? Oh, okay, so Uh, Randy had died, you know in the plane crash and uh, I was in a break From touring with Ozzy. This is like in the summertime

late summer and In 1982 and I get a phone call from Kevin the bro and he says listen Do you want to come in? And we're we're working on a record. It was not officially named quiet riot yet because there was no record deal yet It was a production deal. So Kevin goes and we're gonna be Doing, you know, we're gonna we're gonna cut Thunderbird now Thunderbird was a song that That Kevin wrote for Randy when Randy left quiet riot and when Randy left quiet riot

I was doing different projects around town. I was in a band called angel Also, I was living with Kevin and he had a band named Dubro So, you know, he asked me to play with him. So I did I played in Dubro his own band and one of the songs that we That we performed was Thunderbird. So I was very familiar with the song. So I walked in to the studio to do just one song and We cut it really quickly because I knew it. So it was like, you know, okay It's done and then there was like three hours left of studio time And so the producer turns to me and says, uh, do you remember any of the older songs because

Metal health the album a lot of the songs on that were actually songs from the band called Dubro that Kevin Already had, you know, so he got rebranded as quiet riot, you know So by the time that I left the session I had recorded Uh Slick black Cadillac Let's get crazy, you know songs that slick black Cadillac dated back to the randy era of quiet riot That was the only song That was a brought in from that randy roads quiet riot into the metal health version of quiet riot

Slick black Cadillac and you know, so by the time I left the session I had done about four songs already I was not in the band officially. I just went in for a session But I got to tell you The joy that I that I connected connected with The joy that I found that I actually lost from playing with Ozzy after randy died uh I felt it again being in the room with, you know, frankie who I was I had played with him I grew up playing with frankie, uh in florida banalia banally. Yeah

So, you know that way I started playing with him back in 72 So 10 years later we're we're in the studio in uh in in LA cutting this record that Nobody ever thought was going to do anything that wound up to be the first debut metal record to go to number one so, you know, so I Even and and I started I started feeling like wow, you know, I think I think I found My joy of playing again, you know playing with with kevin and playing with frankie and carlos cabazo Who I knew from the circuit he was in a band called snow, you know, we used to play same gigs and stuff like that. So, you know, I You got to follow the your joy, you know in life you if if you're if for whatever reason

Such as in my case, you know after randy died a it was it was painful painful to continue Being in the band every night without him there uh I I made the decision to leave one of the biggest bands in the world Just to follow my my joy of making music You know Maybe the right move, you know, well, I mean it You know 40 years later. Yeah, it was the right move but back then

Except for my wife who was my girlfriend at the time. She never said a word. She never said Oh, yeah, do you really you really think you should leave? I was like, no, she didn't she just Just and she's always been like that. My wife has been incredibly supportive You know, she's never you would have back then. Oh, I did 81. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I'm mad about my wife in uh, September 1981. Yeah, let me ask you this. Why haven't you put together like a little fucking Spanish fusion of your afro background with some I do I'm gonna send you the mp3s. Okay, there you go I didn't fucking know Because you never asked

You know what I'm saying, you never asked me. I'm hearing I'm hearing you on any trunk playing bongos and Like I'm with a black dude taking on the back And I did it for my folks Because you know, my folks only knew me as playing an american, you know rock and roll And so I put this these songs together and uh, and just just for my folks, you know, just for them But I'm gonna send him to you now. I'm happy Now how's it feel to be doing your own podcast and radio show? Yeah, you know, I

Thank you for the inspiration because I gotta tell you, you know coming on your show on your podcast and And realizing how important it is to do these podcasts and I gotta tell you why you know in our in our world in music We only get to show People get to know us through our music and now through social media. They might get a glimpse Who we really are and you know, anybody can can manipulate social media Anybody can present a certain profile of like I am a very nice person and I love puppies and I love kitties and you know, I give to the homeless people But that could be manipulated, you know, that could be not necessarily be the real deal

I believe on a podcast You can't fake it Because it's a conversation If I'm gonna be insincere you're gonna call me out During a podcast. I'm sure you've done it before, you know, or you might do it in the future to somebody who's gonna come on your podcast and and You know and that'd be really honest, you know during the podcast. So I thought I had I had a case one time When I brought a guy in for a second chance type podcast

Not a second chance with me. I didn't judge him like that but a second chance And when he folded on me the first time It was like I turned my chair and just focused only Because there was no reason to go forward If he wasn't gonna come to terms With what he had done. It was the weirdest thing. It was one of my weirdest podcasts Me and Lee cover they turned out to be a good podcast

But once I saw that there's been a couple times if people come on And there are different people. They're a different person than when they walk in the door When they walk in the door, they're fucking all sun on here They and I saw it. That's why they never came on the podcast I always thought I can't imagine today if let's say I wasn't doing comedy This was not happening. I was working on a car wash And I found out Rudy Sarzo Did a podcast

I listened to it. I was a fan of yours in 1981 I saw the pictures. I read the articles But I know if I listen to you I'm gonna get to know you. I'm gonna tell you who I fucking hate it I'll tell you who I fucking hate it for years. I like the band But I didn't like looking at him except for Tommy Lee Tommy Lee I could tolerate The other three I couldn't tolerate

Now today I kind of like Mickey six. Why? Because of that fucking radio show. Oh, yeah And even though he's a dick on that radio show to people sometimes Come with it. I like it Because it shows me who he is. Yeah. Now. I know who he wasn't that band Yeah, if I listened to him on the radio Now, I know who he was in that band And why that band was successful. That was Molly crew, but that was nicky's band You know, you listen and you I can't imagine at this point not doing a podcast

I always knew that if I could get my story out there And explain to people what happened as bad as good as it was That I do a little better and I was correct Because when you're on stage The whole time guy's making jokes and then he leaves And maybe you might follow him on social media. You don't really get to know the real him I know people that have come up to me and said I really don't like your material But you answered my email back

And I came here because of that character I emailed three other comics. They didn't email me back You follow me so he gets to see people the other aspects of your life Let's just see people that you are a dog lover When I'm on stage, I'm watching you hitting your head up and down like a fucking zombo On the base. I don't even know. I think you leave there and run over animals Right if you saw somebody on stage doing this for two hours They leave and they hit on they hit them dog with an animal. They don't give a fuck their brain is shattered from cte

I got to know you were an animal lover, you know These are the things that at the end of the day people really want Everybody's got a poster on there. Well, that's why I hate When celebrities if you get a fucking twitter account twit Don't give me the false hope that you're not gonna tweet tweet

You open up an account to interact to keep you relevant tweet If somebody says I was your biggest fan growing up Take the two minutes and go. Hey, man. Thank you. Even though I retired from basketball in 1989 There's still 50 year olds that still remember you. I think it's very important think of If you had a show if you were on Seinfeld one of the biggest shows of our time or friends Once those shows end you got so much money You really don't want to do dick the first six months

You've been overwhelmed with questions and stupidities and jokes and six days a week and 80 hours But after those six months Now comes Mike and Molly and you lose those fans to Mike and Molly no more You can retain 50 of that fan base by telling the people how your experiences were on that show And now what do they got they got a fucking cash register. I don't like them I personally couldn't go to them and sit there, but they got a thing called comic con Right and music on you could go there with headshots and fucking drumsticks and make a half million dollars a year Nobody knows what the fuck you're doing

You could tell the government you sold one drumstick and you shoved it up your ass and it broke And then I love you selling 50 or 100. It's even the biggest scam this microphone Doesn't guarantee you a bunch of stuff It guarantees relevancy If you were in a band for 10 years and if you retain 33 friends Then we'll start with 33 people

And we'll work it upwards and then Chiefs here to our hell girlfriend. Do you listen to joey dears? No, I listen to Rudy Saizel What's really the bass player? What the fuck's he talking about listen And I go there to hear you talk about I remember snorting coke with Ozzy and he stuck a finger up my head No, and all of a sudden you're a human being You're a human being Rudy

You're talking about christ and about The dogs and about opening up for you right a heap and these new baselines you're working on and you know You're working on animation. I'm like fuck. I'm into Rudy This is not what I expected. I wanted to hear him talk about Ozzy and snort dance With motley crew and hitting people in the head with bottles You're not mentioning that You know, I always make it a point here on this show Not to talk about what people want me to talk about

And that's exactly what I learned from you Because I I think this is my fourth podcast fourth or fifth or eighth Yeah But you've done other ones and I've listened to the other ones and you're great on yeah, but you know, there's something there There's definitely a a specific Connection from where we come from That it's it's it's it's a little bit deeper You know from from the other time

You know conversations that I have because we get to talk about things that I don't get to talk about with with everybody You know, so the connection gets gets a little you know deeper more profound, you know But it's the honesty In in the show the it's it's a very your show is a very honest show and I learned that and that's what I try to do On my podcast because as a musician, you know, first I started playing music because I saw the Beatles and the chicks We're screaming at the Beatles. I want I want that You know, I wasn't a musician. I was just a guy that want to be noticed by chicks, right? And then later on, you know, I I stuck with it and became a musician and realized that what we do every single note that we play

We're looking for the truth The truth there's a lot of bullshit in life We're bombarded by bullshit man And if I can put my bass on and I won't all by myself sitting on my cell phone with my little amplifier next to me and my guitar and my little dog and the back of my neck sitting on top of the couch And I just sit there and I'm not trying to impress anybody. I'm just looking for the truth I'm looking for that what I'm going to play now It's going to move me

Move me in a way that I have not been moved before I'm not even in front of hundreds of thousands of people You know, and that is something that honesty That honesty is what I live for You know, every day I try to remove more bullshit that gets in the way of my creativity every day every day because they're just distractions, you know, and This is what I learned from doing your podcast Keeping it real keeping it honest

I rather I don't even like that. We're in the comedy category Because when I come on to the show, I'm not looking for the joke I'm looking for the story and from the story humor will grow We our job is to find the humor from the story My niece was over last night. My wife was talking And every time my niece and I were talking about something serious My wife would make a remark and I finally looked on and I go

Ask my niece if you can get a fucking backhand if this was our neighborhood You would have got punched in the fucking head. They would have told you to knock at the fuck off There's a serious conversation I like serious conversations. I think from a serious conversation eventually the lighting up is where you get the humor I don't like pushing and I don't like pushing jokes on here If the jokes are gonna come on it's gonna come out. We're gonna have a good time me and leo giggle you old giggle I always strive to tell the truth on these things. I get it off my chest Whatever's up my chest not my head. I get to get it off. We get to discuss on the air

It's like having your own psychiatry Psychiatrists, but only it gets put out into the universe Which is even better for you Then talking to one person when I talk to one person the psychiatrist She takes it home Have two shots of vodka sucks husbands dick and we move the fuck on When I put it on to the universe it grows as a culture And that truth somebody's not attached to it

And that's where the truth connects Because somebody else related to that stupid story. I told about this or that or this That's what I've learned from doing this If lee tomorrow comes to me and says i'm opening up for ron White on the road. I came through the podcast no more. I wouldn't be mad at him I would periscope the periscope the the podcast as long as you kept your weekly message up and kept a touch of people Think about all those actors That the shows came to an end

And their fans stood there because I know if you watch not darman greg. What's the other fucking show? That was about the gay couple willing grace willing grace one of my favorite shows on tv The only problem were willing grace weren't the funniest characters on that show It was the skinny gay guy And the chick she stole the show. I wish I could talk to her You know what i'm saying? I finally ended up doing a show with her and I got some words I told her you're a badass bitch She giggled

But that's what we have today that we didn't have in the 70s. I couldn't talk to julia serving I couldn't talk to david gilmore in the 70s We have that now, you know gilmore answer you back from time to time You do know that right? No, then he's got a gilmore orgasm club and another Gilmore club that puts up pictures But I follow david gilmore on periscope and on twitter and he'll talk to you from time to time Have you read the pete towson book? No You got to read it. I mean for so many reasons, you know, I mean are you a who fan?

Yes, and no, I've had my moments. Okay. I saw him live. So what's your no no moment Pete tons is a fucking pedophile You think so didn't he get caught with a bunch of kids playing naked bass? He explains playing the bass naked. No, no, no Kevin space. He is sitting there. He explains. We love him. Uh, what actually happened? Okay, I'll read the book It's in his book But but he was one of those guys that you know, and the book reveals a lot of background stuff that The the average listener of the who was not aware of like like myself um, he was a he was working with a public book publishing company

And he published a lot of books, you know, he was responsible for editing them and all of that he If you join the fan club the who fan club, he will write you back personally by hand this is before emails He will send you a written response, you know, and that that's every I respect I respect that I respect that always have You know immensely always the After Tommy the the rock opera every every who record

Including who's next because you got quadrophenia. You have uh quadrophenian. Who are you on my favorites? Yeah, but I love Tommy talk about me old woman. Well, I bet you could see my Every record every record after that was actually a a a complete work you know, not just a collection of songs it was a a concept album basically and except for Who's next because who's next was supposed to be? A a a a a concept record about what he called the grid

Now we're talking the 70s He had envisioned the internet being the grid where people could connect with each other on this grid And that's what who's next the record Really is about all those songs independently and of course, you know, it it uh what they did is they uh the who rented out a theater called the old Vic And they wrote and and did the preproduction for the record On stage with an open door To anybody that was walking by they could actually go in and watch them

Do it, you know, write the record Life as it was going on because to them that was that was a concept How about if we make a record and we invite anybody that wants to come in To watch us do this but For some reason nobody really showed up except for some homeless people that were just sheltering from from the weather Going walking into the theater and just sitting there watching them perform, you know, so he's got some really high concepts You know, and and if if you read the book you're gonna probably gonna change your mind about say i'm fucking being judgmental

I just thought he was a benefit No, he explains, you know, the origin of that. Uh, yeah, yeah Always a fucking pleasure rudy. You always come in here and drop mountains. You too. I this is not only the church This is university. This is this is cocoa you Coco you So you have the six degree six six degrees of rudy. Yeah of sarge of six degrees of sarge Yeah on monsters of rock radio, which is part of the dash app Dash is like if you download it you go either on your android or your or your iphone you download

Download the app. It's free and no subscription. No advertising And it's gotten many stations, you know, if you like soul music or if you like funk if you like metal Monsters of Rock it's the station to go. So i'm on four p.m Uh, pacific standard time Every sunday from four into like seven or eight o'clock sometimes my show runs a little bit longer We got more topics and we play music and a lot of interviews I got craig goldie coming in this this weekend who i played with him and d.o. And we have a

New record that came out called dream child and uh, yeah, it's It's having a great time and and it's all thanks to you Thank you Jesus Christ I almost pulled my earpiece off there Thank you. You came in here and you did it and you saw it. You saw what it does. You saw how you feel afterward. Yeah, you see how You come in here sometimes the shit on your shoulders And sometimes you come here thinking about talking about something and it goes somewhere completely different and you're like Jesus

Now by the time I have my next time we'll forget all about that fucking topic And you know you're searching for if I can add something You know, I know another reason why your podcast is so important and I think podcasts The good ones in general is because you know one of the Another reason why I do the podcast is because In the music community we've lost a lot of dear friends and band members You know, and I've sat

During services, you know, whether it's for ronnie james deal or for for for for lemmy You know, and of course randy wrote many years ago But you know to sit there and have have people come up and speak and say wonderful words about The dearly departed and I'm sitting there. I'm going like what I wish this person Who would be sitting here now with us to listen to these wonderful? You know speeches from all these friends and colleagues and I thought You know, this is something that we can do with the podcast with the podcast we can talk to each other

You know tell how much of an influence how much love and respect we have for each other and it's right there for eternity You know for everybody to listen to and share it You know hundred years from now We'll be listening to this You know, I never even thought about it that way. It is really beautiful You're a bad motherfucker dog. Now. Do you have something on itunes also? No Well, you know all the bands that are played in it. I'm you know, there's my my two recent records is the

Uh, the guess who record that came out last year and and dream child Okay, no, I'm saying does your podcast get released? Oh, yeah. Well, it's it's my podcast which is separate Which you did my podcast now you're that's called six degrees or really that was called the dash the dash Okay, and the other one It's called six degrees on months in a lot radio. Yeah, yeah give Rudy a listen beside that Don't forget next thursday night valentine's day. That's all that's left in san jose You get that i'm fucking throwing rhymes So a week from today. I'm in valentine's day

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i'm at treasure island in las vegas in the 22nd with k quigley and on the 23rd We invade tusan, arizona. Kent veller the kidnapping is showing up. He confirmed it's all over I left them two tickets at the door. I love you motherfuckers. See you next week Monday morning. Nice and early. Kick that fucking muley Little sack you motherfuckers to end it off right my man rudy on this here It's another cold fairies wear boots Oh Is everybody happy you can time

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