Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #672 - Lisa Loeb

Episode Date: April 3, 2019

Lisa Loeb, a singer-songwriter, author, and philanthropist," joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio. This podcast is brought to you by:  ... Postmates - Get $100 of delivery credit to use in your first week when you use code: JOEYDIAZ when you download the app.     Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.   Recorded live on 04/02/2019.  

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Starting point is 00:01:19 Who's better than you the show is brought to you by on its calm listen for all your health needs on it is the answer Well, you need kettle bells shroom tech sports shroom tech immune on it is the way to go I popped a few alpha brains this morning and read a script who's better than me Nobody go to honor calm and press in church and get 10% off your order delivered to your house Kick this motherfucking mulee So the purple tape that what we were listening to is actually a really old record. It's um Back I graduated from college in 1990 and I had been singing with a friend of my name Liz Mitchell We had a group called Liz and Lisa very popular on campus at Brown University
Starting point is 00:01:57 It was really fun that at a certain point after college we decided to go our own separate ways But in college I often sang harmonies more than the lead I wrote a lot of the songs, but I was more of the harmony singer and so I Wanted to make a recording of these songs a lot, you know that I had written but with me singing the lead So I made this acoustic record in the apartment up on 52nd Street 52nd between 9th and 10th With Juan Petino who went on to produce a couple of the other records I made but I wanted to have something I also that I could sell at shows so we used to make cassette tapes So we did a run of these acoustic tapes called the purple tape
Starting point is 00:02:32 And it had about 10 or 12 songs on it that off that many of them later ended up being on my other major label Albums, but this is just an indie record that I put out myself and that I would sell at shows, you know and Years later like 20 years later my friend said you got to put this You know you got to do something with this tape you have to put it out on CD So instead of just putting it out on CD the way it was I felt like I think I felt a little self-conscious Like it seemed like it was back from the early 90s the font on the record the photograph Even the performance style for me singing and playing it just it felt like it was from a certain time era I like to joke around that my hair. I didn't even have the same hair products that I do now like we you know
Starting point is 00:03:13 The hair is like fluff. It was very 1990s. So I wanted to contextualize it. So it's definitely do yeah Tenax we had something called tenax. It was very 1980s You'd sneak into a club you'd have tenax and you'd sleep into a sneak into a club But so I decided instead of just putting the record out as a CD I decided to make it into more of like a time capsule and my friend Andy Denemark who's a great Journalist and radio person in New York. I had him interview me So we did a full CD where we talked about each track and we put the whole purple tape into context And if you look at the purple tape CD packaging, which I you know if you buy a CD if anybody buys a CD
Starting point is 00:03:50 It's a big booklet inside and it has all these photographs from early New York City when I was living there and different friends playwrights and Just different people who were involved in my life back then who sort of started out with me in New York They wrote about the time period and we talked about it on the on the CD as well So it sort of put things in context and then I re-recorded one of the songs called snow day and then I mean After that came out many years later. I Put out some of those songs with the band on my major label records So for me, it was just something I wanted to do
Starting point is 00:04:25 But there were so many people who wanted to hear it that I decided to put it out But I definitely needed people to understand this is not a new record. This is an old record Let me tell you about what was going on during that time, you know, it's a whether it's music or comedy. It's a process Yeah, and I never I knew your song. Yeah, I watched on MTV. I thought you were adorable and then Why you were in that thing? I read something somewhere that you were the first Person to have a top single and not be signed and you were still like I just read this somewhere You were playing the guitar in the train in New York or something. That's a very nice Glare, what is it like?
Starting point is 00:05:08 It was actually more traditional. I've been playing music ever since I was a kid all through college I did probably do some busking for fun my friend and I would we would do busking or like in Boston or Wherever we were because it was fun to play in front of people, but I was playing the clubs I was playing the Bitter End and I was playing the Lone Star Roadhouse and the wetlands and CBGB's and CB Gallery and just a bunch of the clubs village gay I don't think I played in the village. I went to the village. Yes. Yes. I spent a lot of time I lived down there for a while and yeah we were just you know playing all the different clubs either with my band or acoustically and
Starting point is 00:05:44 Or whatever different versions, so I'd been doing it forever, but I The song stay was recorded in that same apartment on 52nd Street We actually had gotten a demo deal from a record label So there were some labels kind of interested things were kind of happening We were playing it, you know South by Southwest and this music seminar called new music seminar where we'd meet all the music industry people and there was some good interest, but we weren't I wasn't getting signed yet, but so I recorded stay with my band in this apartment in New York City on 52nd Street and Ethan Hawk was my neighbor and
Starting point is 00:06:17 And we were also friendly. We met each other through some other actors. There was a guy named Josh Hamilton Who's an actor who I went to college with and they had done the movie alive together. It was funny There was Ethan Hawk and his friends there were so many guys We were hanging out with because Ethan had done the movie Dead Poets Society and then he did the movie alive and That was about it like a soccer team of guys that crashes in Columbia and Ileana Douglas is also in it But like there were just these huge groups of guy actors who were all friends with each other And I got to meet all these nice interesting cute guys and
Starting point is 00:06:49 We were all hanging out together in New York Actors as actors playwrights musicians and just like the creative gang, you know And I'd write music for Ethan's theater company but anyway, so I recorded the song with Juan and Ethan was doing the movie reality bites and he asked me for a copy of my song stay and The song went on to the soundtrack of reality, but I mean there was also music supervisors and people from the record company and Ben Stiller was directing it and he wanted to put the song on the record and they came to see me at the wetlands And it was like a whole thing, but they put the song in the movie and this radio station in Houston started
Starting point is 00:07:24 playing it on the radio and It went and everybody caught on it It became a single with RCA records off the soundtrack from reality bites and it went to number one without me being actually signed to a Label tremendous. So it was really it sounded it. It was really exciting. I mean honestly There was a record label RCA records once they started playing it on the radio There was I'm still friendly with my radio promoter from back then skip Bishop And he did all the things that record companies do to promote the record but it did go to number one and it's given me so much creative freedom because for the song to go to number one and have
Starting point is 00:07:58 That much success without heavy record company involvement on the creative side. I Think that's given me confidence and also it gives I think usually a record company people Confidence in my vision, you know when it comes to making records. Well, I made a mind though when I read that I go For a girl that's so she's got balls. Just playing up. Yeah, so when I met you That's why I hugged you my first song. Yeah, I bided you I gave you a hug I'm like, oh my god. She's a savage just like me totally. I know I look like a little like Stop, you know, I'm like a little cat, but I'm not and you started your life in Dallas I started. Yeah, I grew up in Dallas. I was born in Bethesda, Maryland
Starting point is 00:08:41 my dad's a doctor so we traveled around a lot when he was doing all of his training and Back when I was born. He was doing his like military up at the Naval Hospital in Bethesda So I was born there, but we moved to California, but mostly I was raised in Texas. That's where my family's from It's a big place. There's a lot of different parts of Texas. Yes. It's funny. Actually when I went to college I found out my roommate this gal that I sang with for years Elizabeth Mitchell. She was from New York And I was from Texas and she thought I was a small town Texas person because she had come to Texas from New York on it like an exchange program for a few weeks But stayed in one of those really tiny towns where everybody hangs out at the Dairy Queen and she thought I was like from this little tiny town
Starting point is 00:09:22 But I was from Dallas, which is you know, big metropolitan city, you know Dallas And and I thought she was from New York City because she was from New York So she's the big city person, but she was actually from Westchester It's a little tiny town with a little tiny main street and like the drugstore everybody goes to so it's kind of reversed She was the small town girl. When did you get the brown? What what when oh 1986 I started graduated in 90 Miss Kennedy You just miss just missed my buddy graduated brown 82. Yes with Kennedy. Yes, and he would tell me horror stories Not about what the kid, but when his mom would visit him. Oh, what happened campus? They would
Starting point is 00:10:02 People fit the ones we yell horrendous things. Yeah, Jackie. Oh, yeah, I did too. I didn't know but you just missed them Oh, no, I know some of the other Kennedys who are there But not well, but not well, right just by how many were they up there? I think Rory and then another kid. I Feel embarrassed. I don't know his name. He was in my acting class I remember because we had to go around in the circle and say your name and a fact somebody might remember you buy, you know like Lisa lobe like ear lobe and you know, there was somebody Jefferson like president Jefferson and they went to Kennedy and they said
Starting point is 00:10:40 Somebody whatever his name was Kennedy and he's like and somebody's like oh like the president. He's like, yeah, actually It is like the president like it was from the Kennedy family. So it was great. It was such a It was such a I was just thinking about it earlier because often, you know You get these name brand schools and just because you go to a name brand school doesn't necessarily mean you're getting Education or you're gonna be better off than anybody else, you know If you work hard and find things you're passionate about you don't even need to go to college. It really doesn't matter But I will say at Brown the students were really interesting really driven kind of laid back but super driven at the same time, you know and
Starting point is 00:11:19 I just met so many incredible people from all over the world and all over the country a lot of them I'm still friends with now, but just people who kind of were already doing their life, you know, like and Like a football player who likes to do poetry and like a you know, it's just a lot of people All the Venn diagrams were overlapping. There were so many different people with so many different interests and so driven and And interesting and smart. I really loved it. I should have focused more on studying probably major What was your major? My major was complet and Spanish lit. So but at this time you thinking I'm a music I'm like, I'm just playing music. I know I'm like, I need I was like This in my life
Starting point is 00:12:01 What am I doing being tortillas from Texas? Even though you're from Texas, you have to yeah, yeah, I'm I know I I I in retrospect, I wish I had studied something different probably But I was mostly focused on acting and doing plays and writing music and recording music and playing gigs and Towards the end of college. We were driving in a New York City to play and you know, it was just but we had such a great It was the perfect place to play music too because there were so many musicians there who took it very seriously and we were able to take Classes in the recording studio so we could record our music We had classes where we would critique each other's music and what we were doing So we felt like we better do but we better be really good because other musicians that we respect are also doing this
Starting point is 00:12:46 And at the same time there were there was a great fan base the students were huge fans from the minute We started every gig we played was packed. This is you and your partner me and my friend Liz. Yeah She is she's actually a very successful children's music artist She goes by Elizabeth Mitchell the Smithsonian puts out her records and she and she and her husband also have an indie band called Ida that's very popular on the like real indie music scene and She I actually turned to her when it came time for me to make a record Barnes and Noble came to me like about 15 17 years ago and asked if I would make a different kind of record than my regular records they wanted to put out a record exclusively through Barnes and Noble and
Starting point is 00:13:30 The record industry was really starting to change, you know It was the beginnings of people really not buying as many records or just people trying to figure out where to put records So people would buy them put them at Starbucks put them at Target like where could you put them where people would actually pay attention to them and buy them? So Barnes and Noble was a really interesting partner for me And they asked if I would make something different for my grown-up record that they could sell on their stores And we decided a children's record would be a good idea. Did you have children at the time? I had no children I didn't care about
Starting point is 00:14:02 I don't know about children, you know, but I will say I'd always wanted to make a kid's record Or something like that because I had such nostalgia about growing up in the 70s and the early 80s. I loved my childhood I loved the old Sesame Streets and the old electric companies and the old loveboat and share Sonny and share show and all those variety shows and Carol Burnett Donnie Osmond Fernwood tonight. I was in a beat-up Donnie. I was jacking with my game He's so handsome. I had a crush on 13 he was messing up my game. He was and you know now Richard G. I was in the killing Richard G. It came out with the office of the gentleman. Oh, yeah stab him. Oh, yeah He took his pants off in office of the gentleman. I went on the double. I'm gonna double date. This is hilarious
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'm gonna double date and my buddy was having a hard time with this girl. He was dating and Richard gear drops his pants in the beginning of American jiggle. He walks the shirt off and he hangs on an inversion bar but when his ass came out like my I couldn't believe it the girls jaw dropped and the other girl covered her eyes I was a choke. I'm like, why are you covering your eyes? That's a rich and good But this girl would always talk about Richard gear so for years. I was gonna stab Richard gear It wasn't that I was in the club in the city and I heard he was in the club But at that time already his head was kind of white. Oh, yeah, and I'm like, I can't stab on what don't do
Starting point is 00:15:25 Two weeks ago, but then I watched the officer the gentleman. I fell in love with him. No, he's so great I know I actually learned about him more later and then I couldn't stop watching movies by him He's so there's something so sweet about him and serious and pretty woman. Oh Yeah, I didn't see that when it came out. He's steep. Well, they did it perfectly Whoever his agent was was a fucking genius, right first day released that movie where he's Just a piece of shit cop Bangs everybody's wife. He takes Andy Garcia and he steals his wife's underwear and puts him in the Garcia's face Oh, yeah, it tells him how's your wife taste. I mean, he's just
Starting point is 00:16:06 Then like you left ankle with Jesus Richard. I'm done with it until we slayed it. He came back with pretty women It was all old. Oh, yeah, internal affair internal affair. Oh, yeah, yeah, he's nasty and internal affairs But he came back. He's so great and then forget it. I've always loved this is back to you though I wanted to ask you this question. I do it when I first met you you said Dallas Okay, the walk home I go I think there's too many Jewish people But then I remember a friend of mine from Boulder. I went to school in Boulder Oh, wow, I you see Boulder and you see bold and I had a kid Danny Weinberger
Starting point is 00:16:43 And he kept telling me and he would have a dream of opening a Jewish fucking deli. Oh, that's great He kept saying and I found this spot There's no Jews in Dallas. I go dog. He don't want to start no problems in Texas at that time. I wasn't doing stand up I was just 22. I just seen you know, I just heard Texas that there's places after night. They stab you You know what he went to Dallas opened up Weinburgers. He had it for like 15 years Cashed in the cell of me. He moved to some island. Oh, that's not that kind of Schmeckles That's Dallas there tons of Jews in Texas. Yeah, my dad was on the radio there and they did not know that a taco place made up Mots of all taco form as a joke. Oh, that's what I'm doing. No one ate it cuz it's disgusting, but right, right?
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah, there's like thousands and thought there's so many Jews in Dallas. That's amazing It's funny when I travel around the country actually I got really into Judaism and when I traveled around the country I would visit synagogues and stuff like I visited a synagogue in in Alaska. Wow during it was um, it was My brain, you know, it's um Oh my god, I can't believe I can't even think of a holiday. This is terrible talk about mom What do you do for the holiday, you know, you see sit out in that in that shed out in the back Oh, this so coat a suit coat. Oh my god, I can't believe I just blanked on that
Starting point is 00:18:04 It was to coat and what it's the full moon. It's a harvest festival. And so there's a full moon It's up in Alaska with a suit coat with us with this little soka this little hut And I went there and I met all these what's great too about visiting different synagogues is you just meet nice like regular people And all these different cities, you know, you're not at a club. You're not at a Radio station no offense to radio stations that they're great too. But you know, especially That's just a nice group of people like a regular group of people. I just went to a synagogue in Seattle, it wasn't Seattle. It's an island off of Seattle where I played Remerton Remerton They had a really nice little synagogue really nice people. They had me that the rabbi played a guitar
Starting point is 00:18:43 He was like, why don't you come up and play a song? I was like, uh, I'm just I'm just here for service I played a Hanukkah song. I have a Hanukkah song. It's like a Simon and Garfunkel sounding song Who your early influences? Bowie, I love David Bowie. Oh shit. I love David Hunky-dory Ziggy Stardust. Okay, Ziggy Stardust. I bought those albums so many times on vinyl cassette tape a track a track. No, I The CDs from the RCA days before he switched to RICO. I'm obsessed with David Bowie. David Bowie the police all of it outlandish
Starting point is 00:19:18 Regatta Blanc Zenyatta Mondatta Goes to the machine synchronicity. Hey, I can't believe you're not a fan of synchronicity. I love I'm a I love I like it now wrapped around your finger. I was so disappointed in that when it came out What wrapped around your finger on the synchronicity. There's got like two or three jams I think the best time was the one by walking on the moon. That's a great song that see that Oh the way it starts in my heart when you said it. Oh my god the way the opening to that jam The opening to that jam I was oh I listen I don't I knew dick about the police. Okay, do you like him though when I was
Starting point is 00:19:57 15 yeah, I was good friends with a gay coke dealer that went to CBG Guy like me and he was gay He was friends of my mother and I was very impressed with him because he was a seamstress Yeah for plays like big plays like he would say I'm at this play for a year Like a costume or yeah, I knew he sold drugs. What drug? I didn't really know he acted kind of weird, but he would come back every night and tell me about the clash Oh, yeah, then we go back to his house and I'd be like creeped out Apartment he played a clash for me then the first police out came out. Yeah, and I go there tremendous
Starting point is 00:20:36 And he goes, I'll take you one night. Have we got a fake ID you went to see me with the sea bees So say 78 oh my god. Yeah, remember the Jersey IDs and have your picture on oh, yeah I had a good fake one from Dallas from Texas Somebody made me and I in Boulder Boulder was where they took it because they're so good at checking fake IDs But with college you were at Pogos. I was in I was in Boulder visiting my ex-boyfriend who had gone to Brown hated Brown Went to semester at sea went to this place that place went to Boulder where a bunch of his friends were and we went out and they took my ID I Used to buy beer in college I look like 12 years old and I'd walk in with my smiley face purse and my hair and pick
Starting point is 00:21:15 Do you still exist by the beer for the whole freshman hall? They wouldn't suspect you. I was never see you coming Yeah, I was like, hi, I'm the 12 year old buying So you graduate you graduate Brown and you're like fucking I ain't going back to Dallas No, well, I already felt like I was one in New York City I was one of those people that when I first visited New York City in eighth grade I was I felt like those the cartoon of the people who put their suitcases down on the steps and you're like New York You're my kind of town, you know, just felt like home. It felt so exciting and electric I lived there summer before college. I studied acting and I went there and then I
Starting point is 00:21:51 Just I just loved it and my friend Liz her family was basically from New York City or New York area That I was singing with we had a sort of a manager friend who was helping us with our music by the end of college We were going to play gigs already in New York City When we were in college And it just felt like the natural progression. I mean Dallas was so conservative when I grew up It was in the 80s and it was the Reagan era and it was you know, it was just so conservative people give you the little up-and-down look Like you're crazy and Addison was uptight at me till 2005 yeah, I've been going out of this is 97 after 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:22:31 They just wouldn't take the ride. Oh, yeah club owner like me so they kept bringing me back But I never felt like I met made waves in Dallas Until I learned how to play them and I learned by 2005. I got good in that Dallas room That's I was gonna go back to May 4th to do a theater and that a cancel because it's movie But I was gonna go to st. Antonia Dallas. I got my TV comedy Texas It's interesting to write to go from city to city to like feel the audiences I talk a lot during my shows and I Heard you talking about this with someone else on the radio. It's funny on my right or I have I need a local newspaper
Starting point is 00:23:07 Because I need to know what I'm walking into and I want to know if something happened that day that that was like a really big deal So, you know, it's just an Iowa for a family thing But you read about like a tractor thing or like you don't want to mention certain things if certain things are going on in town Or you do want to mention certain things But yeah, it feels so different. It's hard sometimes also hometowns But New York is such a great hometown, so when you watch this Rolling Stone Olay Olay Olay They go from Peru to Brazil to Uruguay To Columbia and they and they show
Starting point is 00:23:40 What they do when they get there are there like hundreds of thousands of people to in the audience right they're chasing about the airport I mean, it's so exciting on the street and get goosebumps. You like You how could this happen and then you hear the drummer going I remember coming out when I'm enjoying the band We're lucky if we got 20 people, but my point being that big Jagger He said it he goes. There's a picture is a Three-minute piece of him with papers in his hand not newspaper. Just regular paper staple Yeah, flip-flops on has all jacked up and still the boy. Yeah, and he's talking about that when he goes into each city Spoke about this yesterday when he goes into each city that he reads about what's going on
Starting point is 00:24:22 He's so good. He broke his Spanish down by the fucking dialect. Oh my gosh. That's how good that that's very I told my wife last night I go Watching this I watch it two times in two days. I go watching this reminded me How much of a savage this man really is I love seeing that I love seeing what's going on behind the scenes Because he's so casual about it. Yeah, he was lucky, but he's working his ass off He's working his ass off all the time with the the whole thing The plot of it is them go all from city to city with the plan of ending the tour in Cuba Right, and that was the plan and when he got the Cuba and he got on stage. I'm Cuban. Yeah, when he started talking Cuban
Starting point is 00:25:06 My heart stopped like he's he's talking about food. It's very sweet. It's very very That's also why you do it, you know, it's fun to perform It's fun to connect with people and that's so respectful a little tricky, but also very respectful Well, I told these guys yesterday as a comic. There's nothing worse than going to Lexington, Kentucky Yeah, Portland, Oregon, Kansas City, Missouri, and the guy in front of you is a local Yeah, and he's throwing heat. He's talking about the deli in town. Oh, yeah, the local car accident The mayor got caught getting a job in the cemetery in Nashville when I was there Cemetery and I go right next to where he got a hand job. They weren't crazy. Yeah, love when you talk about that town
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah, there's a weird connection. That's how you learn, but if you really want to connect Say something, you know, I love going around the first thing I do when I go to town is go to a restaurant a local Yeah, I'm not gonna go to Morton's. I'm not gonna go to nothing like that I will go to Whole Foods there, but I will talk about their whole food Like there's a Whole Foods I went to the other day I don't know where it was maybe outside of Philly somewhere and they had pies that were cut in half like that Just it right down the middle. They were selling a half a pie. It's the weirdest thing Lisa if I tell you why they go to 88th Street last week, you guys gonna laugh at me
Starting point is 00:26:25 But I'll tell you the truth. I was ready to shoot up to my own day, but just to walk those steps Maybe even walk to my old grammar school. Yeah, yeah one sixty-six. Just a there's a horse stable there It's a time traveling. It's a time traveling. I was ready go up there You know, I didn't go up there because the last time I drove by there The corner had a fucking Whole Foods My neighborhood this used to be let me tell you what the corner store used to be on 88th Street You're gonna die The people who owned it where were the kids father from Dark Angel. What's that that show on ABC?
Starting point is 00:26:59 What's that show on ABC Dark Shadows? Oh Dark Shadows. What is it 88th and 88th and Broadway? Oh, yeah Yeah, so they used to have a camera store when I was a kid and if you went there some days Barnabas Collins was there without that make up shit. We would shake it So that's why I was like, how could you replace Barnabas Collins with a fucking Whole Foods? I took my wife and the baby up there. No, it's very upsetting. It's very upset. I used to live Well, I was there only briefly it seemed like a long time at the time. It's probably like three or four months I lived on Bowery and Bond like half a year But it was when like people were pooping on the front step. It was like the public restroom was my door
Starting point is 00:27:34 You know, we lived above the drug dealers two floors up and they'd still be having their parties when I came downstairs to go work at a hotel But now it's like a really fancy street. Everything's super fancy. You know, it's totally different than any more Peter Fogel That's his name. It was a Fogel. He still holds it and it was also Kenny Kenny's to be the guy But he passed away, but I don't I haven't played there But I like, you know, that it's I love playing listening rooms Like the bitter end those places where you're there and the people are right there and you're they're listening It's not like a bar bar. It's a bar to listen. I love that. You probably have that too because you know when you're when you're Now I luckily I'm playing more theaters and things like that as well or dinner dinner
Starting point is 00:28:17 Places like City Winery where they're eating and they're watching but it's really about watching and listening It's not about being at the bar drinking and talking. How much do you travel though? I travel way too much as a mom and way too little as a musician. That's what I feel like. I travel about I probably do like 30 dates a year, but I this is the thing though. I Love it. I love I hate leaving my kids, but I feel like I'm getting better at playing gigs Yes, and that's what's so crazy is that I really enjoy it. I love the I love talking to the fans I love being on stage. I feel very comfortable now. It's just I don't know. It's just such a fun thing I feel like I'm growing as an artist and yet I really want to be home with my family, too
Starting point is 00:28:59 I think we need to have like Branson where people come to us. I do but we're I don't I don't even know do you play a lot in LA? Yeah You probably work out material. So what I do is I do two three-day tours a month Two three-day tours a month Thursday Friday Similar to what I do, but my son regular but yeah every other week. Yeah And then one week I'll buy down to one week one month. I go down to one month one week Maybe in November I'll do three weeks. Oh, yeah Just cuz I feel you know, then you have the seven and you have deck after the 20th
Starting point is 00:29:31 So well, that's a thing you gotta sit there for three weeks. Yeah, like a bump on a lot And then you feel like you're starting over again, right? So weird socks So then you're up there and you're like, this is fine. The good thing about me is I got the comedy store Oh, yes, you have a great place Tuesday Wednesday and Saturday Yeah, I'm with Mercy Monday Wednesday Friday's date night. Yeah, that's great. That is always in the itinerary on babysitter Yeah, we do two and a half hours. It's a lot. We're looking at each other. Yeah, no I know we need to get back to date night. We've gotten into the thing where there's like, oh, and there's a school function
Starting point is 00:30:03 Oh, and the other thing that you have to perform at and then all of a sudden we're out two nights in a week And it's not even date night. It's not day and we don't like to be away from we feel like it's important to be home for a bit So it's but we also don't want to stay up late because then you got to wake up early in the morning So it's this whole I all my spots after 8 30 and I do them and I run up the hill because oh, that's great The house is at 6 15. I got you know, yeah, I got the Mickey Mouse Club playing throughout the whole goddamn house Time to wake up so it's like oh groundhog day So when you went to New York now, what were you thinking in the early 90s? I mean you were just meeting people playing this is gonna happen broke
Starting point is 00:30:38 Not really my parents were helping me out. I was working, but I was also I was I was thinking, you know what? You want to eat right? I was a couple years after College I was working in different little jobs, you know, like the pottery barn type of it It wasn't pottery barn. It was called hold everything. It was in Chelsea. I sold hangers to Willie the bass player He always gives me a hard time about that Padded hangers they were probably scented padded hangers actually, but I worked there I worked at a hotel doing room service and other stuff Working the breakfast room. I did a lot of temp work in offices and at a certain point a couple years in after college
Starting point is 00:31:13 My dad was like, you know, you should think about going back to school and I realized, you know what? He's right because if I'm not a musician I Would like to do something else that's really satisfying to me That's not working at a hotel or you know working at someone else's store or temp working I would like to use my mind and use my You know use my whole self to do a different job So I went back to school at NYU for psychology for a master's degree But I only went for a year and it was very part-timey
Starting point is 00:31:42 It was like two classes at a time and then once I was there I was like, you know what? I'd rather be just a hundred percent focused on music and then if that doesn't work out then I'll Go back to school a hundred percent and then within the year I got a song on a soundtrack and everything because I always felt like I was taking one step forward You know like more people are at the shows We were we were always I had a different friends in the music business who would give me advice and we were always collecting Information and names for our mailing list and I would hand write, you know Cards
Starting point is 00:32:11 I had a friend and at a certain point it was getting too much with work and music and my friend who was in the music business said you need it like an assistant you need someone who can work with you and Out of the blue my friend who was working at Ethan's theater company said hey if you ever need any extra help Let me know so she would help me make flyers and we would address the flyers and Xerox copy at the temp work office and Use their phones and actually be awake way too early in the morning But just like always doing the next thing that you do and you're a professional musician playing shows playing in Philly playing in Boston And then all of a sudden boom having a big hit on the radio now now the hit comes out. You're ecstatic. You're happy Yeah, and also stressed stress
Starting point is 00:32:49 Crazy and everybody wants something from you and everybody thinks you've changed. I'm like, I'm still the same exact person I haven't changed. I'm just busy making my album right now in the studio because the one song came out But I need to make the whole record we I signed a record deal when the song was number one on the charts I signed a record deal with Geffen records and I and my attorney was great And I still have the same attorney today that I did back then but just you know, just I was a working Professional musician. I was it was so exciting. I was on TV and learning what that's about and you know making videos and making music And playing with my band and getting all of our I also was a very big fan of getting all of our contracts getting all the ducks in a row with the band members with the producers with the
Starting point is 00:33:27 Whatever I wanted everything to be, you know done properly and making records and the writing songs and just on and on and on Did you go on tour after that? I did I was on national tour like a national tours I I don't know if I ever did a lot of t-shirt tours, you know where it's like the t-shirt with like 30 dates on it, you know I felt like we would do runs of shows like and once I got signed. There was a whole thing where you would write finish finish writing the record record the record Do the artwork and all that stuff then there'd be three months and during those three months You would go to Europe and promote the record you go to Japan for a couple weeks and promote the record come back to the U.S. Promote the record and then actually the record would come out
Starting point is 00:34:07 Then you go back to Europe for two weeks and tour or two or three weeks and tour and back to Japan for two weeks to Tour them back to the U.S. to tour, you know, you just like the whole thing and then you would start over again making more music and it was like this kind of routine Now it's not like that at all now It's like always recording always writing always touring like you and I are talking about where it's like three days here Two days there a week there
Starting point is 00:34:30 Bring the family. Okay, I could be out for two weeks now, you know, just this whole who's paying the most That's a good place to go. Where do I want to go? Which places do I want to develop my fan base further? You know just this constant juggle of Going out and playing That's a man. I like it. Oh, yeah, listen. I'm watching this the first night when I couldn't sleep. I'm frustrated I got insomnia. I did three bonk hits. I I drink good See, I eat cheese. I'm like, I'm gonna eat the cheeses then I'm gonna have two girl scout cookies Then I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:35:03 Change my palate with a little bit of potato chips Then I'm gonna just cleanse my palate with just one spoonful of peanut butter because I need some Protein then just one little chocolate chip. Well, just a little more. I open up with an apple Oh, that's good. I open up with an apple then a banana if I'm still hungry, then we're gonna have a problem If it's after 11, but if I if it's two in the morning, I don't try to eat meat or nothing So I'll just keep it to like an apple or banana But I'm watching this rolling stone thing. Yeah performing in Cuba. They're in Cuba, which is a free country, by the way Okay, it's a free country. That's it. Well, it's Cuba, but that's amazing
Starting point is 00:35:40 And I'm sorry, where do they do it in some big like sports? Sports arena, which is is to us is that field down the corner, right? Yeah, no Hollywood Park is 20 times better than that field over there So but they have got all the old cars. Yeah, they had all the old cars and stuff But they I'm watching Mick Jagger 73 at the time, right? Dancer like no Joey, why the fuck would you go out at 73 to do a European tour when you've got millions Right millions. I mean they can't they can't even count how much money they have, right?
Starting point is 00:36:17 He's like and yeah, because it's we love what the fuck we do right now today If you come to me and say where you going this week, I'm going to Pittsburgh. I love Pittsburgh Yeah, it's fun to go. I want to go not really so from now till tomorrow at 11 o'clock I'll be a little bitch Lisa. I'm not gonna be alive Nah, I'm looking for excuses. I got a toenail that hurts My ear hurts, but you know what once I slam the door in that uber You're you're there. It's a you're already there once I get the LAX I go boom clear then look at your eyeballs. Yeah, and you go through
Starting point is 00:36:53 Hey, you're already there. You're there. You're there. You're there Tomorrow I take connecting flight there on Thursday connecting flight. You're there Yeah, once you get to the hotel, you take your iPad on you like your sleep-adventure machine Yeah, you did the picture your wife. I got a bed. She gave me Yeah, yeah, that's it. You're there. You're home. Yeah, you know, it's like Mick Jagger said he goes I used to hide My my management wanted me to hide what taught to hide, you know, we go to a town He goes it's fucking part of the gig
Starting point is 00:37:28 Shaking hands giving autographs talking to people. That's part of the gig. I just accepted it. I love it I'm telling you tonight When everybody goes to sleep tonight Taking a little glass of red wine, whatever better Shabbat's You got a little crack of some cheese. I'm like cheese. I'm just like my cheese. It's basically cheese I love cheese. They're like the pastry. I love you know what I love pastry of all cheese. I love cheese But I get two stones sometimes. I like to cheese it with the peanut butter But after a while, I'm such a galvan that I just put the peanut cheese in the peanut butter and the peanut butter breaks the cheese
Starting point is 00:38:03 My wife will look at me go, why the cheese it's in the goddamn peanut butter. What's going on here? What do you think? That's awesome, you're you're just I wanted you to come on the show Lisa, you know, yeah You know to talk a little bit, but I really have a lot of respect for you. You're amazing in a lot of ways because LA's a money talks and bullshit walk type of place you You walk the walk. I mean you don't stop. You're a mom. Yeah, well most people don't understand Is that once you become a parent you unless you want your kid to be? You know like out there, right? You have to put love and time into that child Yeah, I don't want my daughter. You don't want your children not to know who the hell you are
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah, you were making a ton of money, you know, right you watch the dirt yet. Oh, no I haven't fucking two years on the road. Oh my god He's in a row on the road sit like all the whole time. Oh, yeah Easy, you know, how are you gonna be a parent? How are you gonna be like Zeppelin did that? I know I know these people and they didn't have cell phones Imagine they probably forgot the lives at home and you had to go to Western Union and write a fucking note Nobody remembers your type of note. What do you want to write on the note? Oh, Lee? I love him Two days later somebody knocks on your door. Oh, Joey loves me big deal. Yeah, you know, I mean two years
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah, I got him and did a tour eight weeks one time that I came home. Oh my gosh, and it was too much Yeah, no, I won't do more than a week. I do a week I did the Carlisle in New York, which was two weeks But I knew that my in-laws who have been great also they help with the kids Especially if it's like a little longer tour than I would like to be on They'll they come and they help out and so they were in Los Angeles when I was at the first week of the Carlisle And the second week the Carlisle gave me an extra room and a room for the kids and everybody just came for the week And so it was I could do that
Starting point is 00:39:52 I actually that's one of my dreams is to do tours during the summer Where it's like a three-week tour a four-week tour I could get most of the gigs out of the way for the year Have the kids with me with another grown-up Whether it's my husband and in-law a good friend in addition to my tour manager Who's my son engineer and just like do the thing we used to do We drive around the country when I was a kid and we'd stop in Santa Fe and you know I could just play my show at night at 7 30 8 o'clock hour and a half sign autographs be done by 11 Go sleep somebody takes the kids to breakfast and then we go do something for a little bit
Starting point is 00:40:21 Or we take a little drive it'd be great on the east coast where the cities are closer together But just sort of combine the like United States trip with the Touring because I'm not doing a ton of morning radio anymore right now or there's no left So it's like it makes it it it makes more free time and I'm really you know I could do a sound check, but I could do that quickly or like even Europe like go to France I haven't really been outside of much other than like Paris or Versailles like go someplace where there's a whole country that you forget and Have a car and go and stay in like a bed and breakfast and play some weird little 150 seat
Starting point is 00:40:55 Venue little club and then play in France or what you know play in Paris, but take the family I don't know if it's realistic with jetlight, but it's one of my dreams to be able to see the country see the world Do my work Cuz cuz that's the other thing I don't know if you do this, but you have to be so able to change gear so quickly you literally can be on stage I'm like feel like a superstar Doing your thing playing your music two seconds later be an artist writing You know be in this other head where you're writing writing and then be in this other head where you're picking rice up off the floor
Starting point is 00:41:26 And it's totally you're where you are sort of when you're there It's as I became a comedian. I didn't take my work around the company seriously I wrote but when I went on the road it was more to be destructive like Motley crew Oh, yeah, I probably came a headliner and started thinking about the people coming to my show They got a got a babysitter. They're gonna drive a paper ticket. They got to go to dinner. I I Changed everything I do, you know some nights sometimes I fly in the night early Just to get dinner at that time get the feel right right go back watch Netflix till 2 or 3 in the morning You're on of these you're you know, you're on West Coast time. You don't need to get up
Starting point is 00:42:09 Right, but even take that seriously like don't feel like you have to wake up in the night I don't even take that seriously watch your sleep. Yes be where you are But what about that like your your comedy? I know when I did the Carlisle It was a big turning point for me. It was a couple years ago. Like I said, I like to talk a lot on stage sometimes it'll be half talking half music and There I like in my mind I think every show has to be totally different totally different has to be even what you're saying What I'm what I'm saying has to be different everything has to be different
Starting point is 00:42:36 It can't be the same and now especially with social media. I'm like everything has to be different But I've toured with like I talked toward with Lyle Levitt for for one of those long tours before and I watched him and he He knew what he was gonna say every night and it worked every night in these huge theaters And it was great. It was kind of like a play. It wasn't a play He's really playing and whatever he said came from his heart, but he would say the same things and I had a whole new respect for it I was like that works what he's doing works and that is an art to be able to get up there and then I was hanging out with some comedians for a while and I saw them working on things and Started realizing people were repeating material
Starting point is 00:43:12 You can't do new stuff all the time you have to sort of hone in on certain things and then be able to Mess around but with the Carlisle to me that was this very special upscaling people are paying over a hundred dollars to see me play They're right in front of me. It's this tiny little place it to me It had a lot of cachet where like classic people Sing and tell stories and they do cabaret and I need to tighten up my act So it's not so all over the place with trying to be so different every time and I'm trying to find that balance between saying the same things and working on certain stories that are fun to tell or people always react a certain way and
Starting point is 00:43:43 And coming up with new different stuff, but how do you do that? Like do you do you go through phases of? similar material or Like how does that work? I like to mix it up Okay, I never do the same set twice. I love mixing it up the order So tonight I'll open up with snow and clothes would stay yeah Wednesday, I'll open up with fucking stay and take my chances right right I'll open up fucking strong right out the fucking box right and then talk them down a little bit I
Starting point is 00:44:12 Don't mind a musician speaking. I but I went to see Santana a couple years ago. I almost put a gun in my fucking It's What they're fucking talking about. Oh, we're at a great place now You got to bring up injustice to Mexicans now After I did you know 22 joints now I gotta feel fucking guilty to come to a show come on. Oh, you know, this is a this is a song This is the other problem. I have When you're a musician if I pay for Lisa Loeb, she better fucking play stay. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:44:44 I don't care if she fucking does open a little electric guitar ukulele I don't play the song that you know the song that I know a couple songs Yeah, yeah, you have to play all the songs, you know when you're a comic you Some comics like well, they came to hear that particular joke, right, right? I don't really feel that way, but I do sometimes Right, sometimes I do if it's a joke that made me or something I do But I don't really want to say it where music if I pay a hundred to see the fucking stones They better play like brown sugar for the music. I'm gonna see the devil. Yeah, exactly. I want to see the devil
Starting point is 00:45:17 I want to see it's only rock and roll So that's the problem I have it's funny early on I Remember when stay was really really popular the song stay and my drummer Who's no longer my drummer, but we're friends we've talked about it But it was so funny because he was such a pain in the ass. He's like, we're not gonna play stay, right? We played at CBGB's and it was a big deal that we're playing at this little club and We're not gonna play stay. I'm like, are you kidding me people drove in from New Jersey like they drove in to hear that one song That's all they want to hear
Starting point is 00:45:46 And it was written from all from the same place as all the other songs I wasn't trying to like sell out or you know I was just writing another song and that one became popular They are gonna get what they want to hear They they better like when I go see Hall and Oates, they better play all their songs, you know Well, is he Sarah smart? I gotta see Sarah smile So I'm gonna save up all that stuff to Lee and I'm really sensitive to and maybe I shouldn't be so sensitive But I have always all these new songs and a lot of people know my first two records the best and they're from 20 years ago
Starting point is 00:46:16 Or 25 years ago, but I've got like multiple multiple songs and records since then And I want to sprinkle them through the set and make sure they hear things that I want to share as well Do you switch your? set, you know Your orders every night do you know But I do find that there are certain songs that I like opening with because I know that that if the equipment is bad or something's going Wrong, I could sing if I couldn't even hear myself. I could sing these songs standing on my head I feel comfortable. I know what it feels like. I like playing an upbeat song when I come out
Starting point is 00:46:45 Sometimes I change it up But there's a couple songs I like playing and that's the other thing sometimes in my head I'm playing such different sets, but then I go out there I'm like I always play these songs because it works well I like I like to play this kind of song and then play a couple songs from this other album that they don't really know and then play Something they really know and then you know tell a story about something else like it just has an ebb and flow, but I did years ago start having a Request section whether I'm playing for kids or for grown-ups. I have two different types of sets that I do
Starting point is 00:47:13 There's a I play stay and then I'll maybe play another song of my choice That I want them to listen to because just because I played something that they really wanted to hear then I can play something They might not know as well right after it and then it's requests people can ask for whatever they want like three four five songs I watched the live stream from Austin. You're very good at live streaming and stuff and a couple months ago I was at home and bleep, you know, you're gonna live stream. I think it was on Twitter or Facebook. Oh, yeah Somebody streamed it and I sat there writing watching you. Oh my god. That's like I got it was raining probably I gotta tweet her real quick and tell I'm gonna get it on the show She's not fucking around out there and you were smiling you were having a great time and not the harp on it
Starting point is 00:47:55 That movie with the stones again every night. They opened up on a different fucking song See, that's cool, too One night they opened up with out of control, which was low and I was like what? And they came out fucking But again and during that movie there was one part where he's in cuban He's singing I can't get no satisfaction and cubans a stab themselves, you know And I'm sitting there thinking how many fucking times have they sung this song right and it's still so they changed it up They make it bluesy. They they just know how to yeah, you have to respect you have to respect that
Starting point is 00:48:36 I know when I was a kid I'd go sit I'd go meet musicians. They came to town My friends and I would go Get people's autographs at the record store and all that stand in line We would we thought we were a very new wave We were we were a very new wave and fun and we'd make a pineapple cake They look like a pineapple and give it to like flock of seagulls and we were fans, you know, we were groupies We were fans, but we were also felt like journalists we would literally like interview bands and stuff like that and
Starting point is 00:48:59 Videotape them, but it was filmed because it was you know that super eight film and And so I know what it's like to be on the other side to be a fan who's not he's not a weird fan They're just a big fan or if you know somebody I could actually maybe be friends with you know Like as a fan sometimes you're like no, you don't understand famous musician We could actually be friends and yet they're thinking oh the musician doesn't think we could actually friends But like I do meet fans that I've become friendly with like, you know, you have your boundaries and everything But like I appreciate it so much like my parents were big music fans I'm a big music fan. We used to wait to like get someone on Broadway's autograph after they did their show
Starting point is 00:49:35 Like there's something exciting. You want to as the king say give the people what they want Who were some of the people you met when you brought the cakes like flock of seagulls the alarm The alarm I didn't meet the cars, but I love the cars and I had the only east and now candy. I was my shit I got it. Those those records are so good The one with the dog. I got them. Yeah, they're so good. Oh my god I'm a vinyl and atomic records did not close. We're ever spreading the rumor. Yeah, it's not close They did not close. I went on. I haven't been to Burbank and everybody kept breaking my heart Come to our house our house is like a record store. My husband collects so much vinyl. It's crazy
Starting point is 00:50:13 And I have all my old vinyl still in Texas I'm actually gonna sell some of it to a record store in Dallas that I just I don't know There's a guy in Kansas City when I went with Dean last year Dean Delray who does a strictly music podcast. I know Dean threw the drummer in my band Yeah, Dean's a great guy and Dean went to a place and came back there a place in Kansas City where They get calls like a man. My father was the drummer for the almond brothers and he died He's got a trailer full of shit. If you don't come together. I'm gonna throw it out And he's got like every tour jacket
Starting point is 00:50:51 Michael Jackson, which is probably worth a dollar No, that makes me upset. That's like the Bill Cosby thing. I was such a huge Bill Cosby fan I have his records. He was the guy I learned how to tell stories from I'd listen to his records. I'd watch his videos I loved him. I met him once and Bill Cosby, what did you do? It's so somebody told me there was a comedian who had a or a guy who I'd like his whole Phil Cosby tattoo on his whole back oops Very upsetting somebody who named their kid Cosby
Starting point is 00:51:24 Cosby he's a comedian. So take that one Such so disappointing. I'm so disappointed. I was uh, I Was a little bit of a Cosby fan. I was more prior to storytelling Lenny Bruce type of yeah, of course But then I did a festival and he was the star of the festival And when I walked in I was maybe 10 feet from him and I could hear him telling the festival coordinators How there was no room for blue material in comedy that he hates blue comics They better make sure there's no blue comics in the festival and I just turned my back. That's like a yeah, that's that's too Cutting down an artist. You know I'm saying like especially if he's doing what he's doing on the side there
Starting point is 00:52:07 That makes it well. Listen. This is the worst thing that nobody remembers And this is where it would piss me off In 87 he fired Lisa Bonet from the show for doing angel heart with Mickey Rourke because she had a sex scene Oh, give me a break. That's terrible. Do you not remember that? I vaguely remember that and she said fuck you and she hooked up with Yeah, Lenny Kravitz Lenny Kravitz and the rest of history. Yeah, but you know, here's a girl who did a sex scene And there was an R rated sex scene. There's an X rated sex scene, right? There's two of them for this movie and he fired her and that's art 30 years later 20 years later 30 years later. He gets convicted for the crime
Starting point is 00:52:47 That he does that's the kind of shit that that's not right eats my crawl Michael Jackson on the other hand First time my boy when I came from Cuba was ABC. So I don't think I see a great record. I'm fucking devastated, but It doesn't you see those pictures of him at the end with the fucking eyeball sticking up and shit. Yeah He was I needed people. He needed people He was around he needed real people in his life, you know this this This business woman could take you for a ride. How did you survive? I have friends and family I'm just like a regular person with a family No, I'm just I
Starting point is 00:53:22 I First of all, I have the same friend of I have a lot of new friends too including your wife Like I've met some really great people through my kids, but I've always had really close friends I one of my best friends our moms were pregnant at the same time We were born in the same hospital a month apart Another friend I was just seeing and she was in she she works over the hill She lives a mile away from me. We grew up in Dallas together We were best friends between second and third grade like I have all these friends just all these friends and family
Starting point is 00:53:45 I have two brothers and a sister Who I'm close with my parents that keep you ground that you keep they're just you're normal You're like, yeah, your song's on the radio. Can you please go help mom with the car? You know, it's it's just It's a great support system I'm and I'm also just a really responsible person. I'm just over the top. Did you ever ever any point? No, you know, I need to buy into it more. I need to buy into it more because I think like you said at a certain point you have to take it seriously I do take it seriously, but I think it's a really important for us
Starting point is 00:54:15 It's You know being a creative person and being an artist and being a performer It's it's not as trying as being like an athlete, but you definitely have to have Routines and you have to have be able to take care of yourself and you know, like I I have I have had people in my lives who have Been big stoneers or more drinkers and this and that and it seems glamorous for a minute But I need to be awake. I need to look awake. I need to be able to think and
Starting point is 00:54:41 It just didn't make sense to me that like oh, I need to drink so that I can perform or oh I need to take drugs so I can perform or do my job. I'm like that doesn't sound very sustainable, you know, like I'm too Factual and I like So I just I didn't do that and then I'm just working, you know, maybe I do need to unwind a little bit That's good. You got a yoga. I don't do yoga very much. No, I do strength training We're at at somebody's home at a at a personal trainer's home first weights or machines training weights Little machines. They're great. If you want to know them. No, I do. I go to strength. Yeah, I love strength I've been doing it for 30 years. I love that's two times a week. I love walking
Starting point is 00:55:18 I'm like an old person. I'm like I like walking light strength training and dancing I'm taking dance class. Yeah. I was a dancer Mom and you have an eyeglass company. I do have an eye. We're brilliant. It's so much brilliant. What's the website? It's called lisa lobe eyewear. So it's lisa lobe eyewear The parent company is a company called classic eyewear But you can just look up lisa lobe eyewear and all my eyewear collection is there. It's ever growing And they sell it at mom and pop like your ophthalmologist optician office where it has a little store But it's also at costco and it's women's glasses and children's glasses at costco
Starting point is 00:55:51 And you also have children's books I do have a couple of kids books. Um, I I need to write some more books though One day, what did you now? Did you have the kids when you started writing the kids books? No, I did not have the kids with the kids I I I have such nostalgia. You were talking about going back to where you used to live going back to your old school I love that time travel. I wanted I wanted to create stuff that was funny and you know like Back in the 70s, there was all the entertainment that was for grown-ups, but kids would watch it We'd watch all in the family whatever right? We would also watch the waltons and the waltons room 222. Yeah, exactly
Starting point is 00:56:27 You know, I I I don't work sundays Right, I refuse to work. Oh, you don't work sundays. I do not work sundays I do paperwork and other work. Okay, but I refuse to get on stage on sundays first of all, it's a Sabbath for me Right number two. I grew up on disney. Oh, yeah, the wonderful world of the wonderful world of disney that fucking lion show Afterward the guy doctori doctori, you know, that's I grew up on as corny as it sounds everybody I fucking love Lawrence walk because at the time. Oh, yeah I was such an immigrant and I felt like such an outsider That's to me to become an american. I had to love american things
Starting point is 00:57:03 And I would sit there and do that little fucking german dance. They'd do like, you know, he's got this german And uh, he he all that stuff. Jesus Christ, you know, so eat a tuna sandwich and watch uh, I would watch um You know the dance show, uh, oh my god, it was on sundays. I'd come home from sunday school get a warper jr Wonderama soul train soul train american bandstand soul train. I love you had, you know, uh So all that stuff like midnight. What was it? Oh, yeah, mid the midnight special the midnight my parents My mom woke us up one night on a friday night because the kiss was going to be on with no makeup This was in the 70s. She's like kiss is going to be on with no makeup. We were such huge kiss fans
Starting point is 00:57:40 We all woke up in the middle of the night my my siblings and I To watch the midnight special and then they showed kiss and they were sitting on a park bench with their backs to the camera Being interviewed so you couldn't see them without their makeup. I'm trying to get ace freely. I'm here Oh, interesting. But without drugs, he's not funny Well, you might be the first I know poor ace. I read paul stanley's biography. It was really great All that stuff is very very great. I got david lee roats. I'm gonna take on the road. Oh, that's great to read that one Oh, yeah, and the one i'm still trying to finish because it's brilliant is the man who led zeppelin peter grant Oh, I gotta read that. I haven't got a zeppelin
Starting point is 00:58:17 Uh, by I but I read one years ago. It was a little paperback The the the hammer of the gods or hammer the gods. Yeah, the great one is patty smith. That's a great She wrote two great books. Did she yeah, there are a couple of biographies I tried to read and I just couldn't read them that were just not readable They were not well written I loved the lennie bruce book when he lived in the chelsea. I love all that nostalgia also Yeah, so I wanted to make that's how I got into kids music. I wanted to make things like the stuff that I something about camp like when I was a summer camp a summer camp
Starting point is 00:58:49 album all my old summer camp songs because also when you're a kid It's not kids music. You're a teenager and you're singing it. You think it's really funny and fun and gross and Sentimental and you love it. And so I I made a kid's summer camp song records with a couple friends And started a foundation to send kids to summer camp through the camp lisa foundation and We ended up making a musical an off-bredway musical that played in new york city at the atlantic theater about summer camp
Starting point is 00:59:16 And that led to doing books that had the lyrics from some of those songs plus other songs but um Yeah, it's just it's it's fun. It's like Fun and serious and you could just do all kinds of different things making kids music. I like it No, you have a thousand hats that you wear and uh I love you. Whatever you want to come back on You're close by just give me a call. You were great. I mean, this is great Yeah, it's such a surprise to get to meet you. I like I didn't know you dated dwee's. Let's one of the best guitar players out there
Starting point is 00:59:45 He has a great guitar. He's very fucking underrated Very underrated. Well, it's great because he's playing his dad's music now. Is he doing it now? He's doing it now. Are they doing joe's garage and all that stuff? I don't know. They're doing joe's garage. They're doing a lot of different songs And I think he's might be working on his own music actually right now. He's on a hindricks tour He's out with the hindricks with like joe satriani and a bunch other guys. Yeah, I had uh, terry basio Oh, yeah, that's great. I'm a big missing person. It's joe's garage. Oh, yeah, frank zapp amazing Yeah, amazing. So I had him on here, but I have always said that the only knock I have against the dweezel is he played on don
Starting point is 01:00:20 Johnson's album Yeah, they were tight they were tight don grew up in his house and stuff that was tight He's it's it's interesting all those folks that you meet like I remember hanging out in a kitchen At the mandavi's house watching sports with don johnson very weird I don't know. Yeah don johnson kicked it around for a while. Yeah, yeah But anytime you want to come on let me promote these dates for you. Okay. Yeah, I've got a bunch of dates coming up this Sunday, you're at mccabe's guitar shop in Santa Monica. Yes, that is a kids show. Okay, it will be fun for everybody It's a 10 30 in the morning
Starting point is 01:00:56 Look at you and then the tickets are almost sold out. So really yes, and then the 13th you're at the hard rock I am at the hard rock rock casino venue in northfield, ohia, which is near cleveland It's great. And then the form of the march 28th or the 26th. You're at world April april april April 28th I'm looking. Oh here. Wait before that. I'm playing. Oh, but it's sold out. I'm playing in boston at city winery sold out april 24th Yes, world cafe live in philly on april 26th Ram's head live in anapolis, maryland. That's a great venue and I have to get crab cakes
Starting point is 01:01:35 And then yeah the 28th. I'm playing at the hamilton in washington dc You're beautiful. You even got a coffee line I do have a coffee line called the wake up blend now All these people and my friend a friend of mine who manages billy blop Thornton You know connected me to this great coffee company called coffee fool And it's an online place to order coffee beans And he started a thing the people who started the company started a thing with a couple of different musicians and people That they'll let you put together your own personal coffee blend like mine is
Starting point is 01:02:03 Dark roast beans for that really strong. I'm going to be awake Flavor but also light beans for the actual caffeine and that's shade grown and all that And all the proceeds from the sale of this wake up blend that you can buy online They they give all of it to my camp lisa foundation. So they've sent so many kids to camp They also have a blend with uh, I think sticks and with billy blop Thornton and maybe a couple of other folks know too But it's great. It's coffee fool and you go to their charities Uh button on their website and you'll see my coffee there and it's delicious. I'm gonna try at least a coffee Yes, okay. I'll have to get you some beans. Lisa love. This has been an honor and a pleasure. Thank you very much for taking the time
Starting point is 01:02:41 You're a sweetheart. If you ever need to come on for any reason you have an open door policy You want to do midnight one of if you want to sing on here? That could be fun. We'll get the fucking lights going. We'll whatever you need periscope We'll get girls would be kind whatever you need girls with bikinis. That's what I got you here. I got you here. Thank you very much Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you. I want to thank lisa lope for coming on the podcast again today I want to thank the christ killer for making it happen And I want to thank you guys for listening. But most important Let me give a thank to our little sponsors here. We're sponsored by postmates your personal delivery service
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Starting point is 01:07:46 It's a full moon It's a snow day Hey And when you get down to my bones and where I find that wishing stone the beads or records all the calls and the drinks alone First by mind and then by music you'll make this all less confusing. It's a slow dive down. It's a fast distraction It's a strange fall forward lame reaction. It's a bad day It's a long ride It's a bad day
Starting point is 01:08:36 You're my medicine It's a sinking feeling pulls me through the seat of chairs When will you come rescue me find solace and then take me there say you're not too tired for this life And it's not gonna matter if you fall down twice You're not too tired for this life And it's not gonna matter if you fall down twice when you get down to my bones and where I life I'm at wishing stone the beads or records all the calls and the drinks alone It's a bad day
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