Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #695 - Earl Skakel
Episode Date: June 25, 2019Earl Skakel, a stand up comedian, actor heard on "The Jellies", and host of the "Inappropriate Earl" podcast, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio! This podcast is brought to you by:  ... Vincero Watches - Get yours at Vincerowatches.com and our listeners get 15% off when they use promo code CHURCH.  Upstart.com - The revolutionary lending platform that knows you're more than just a credit score. Check them out at www.upstart.com/church  CBD Lion - For all of your CBD needs, from shatter to gummies go to CBDLion.com and use code CHURCH for 20% off. Â
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Earl Staker the Christ killer
Uncle Joey
Oh
Equal opportunity music gays and jumping up and down. I love it
I
What's up girls cake, dude, I love Judas Priest. I love Judas Priest
We're all my fucking heart. I seen them open up with this song once and it blew me the fuck away on this tour
Oh, they're gonna be like 83 or something 83 84
They blew me the fuck out of it. They came out to silence no motorcycle
And you just heard that little Glenn tipped and guitar was like Jesus Christ. What's up, brother, dude?
It's an honor. It's an honor for you to be I saw you the other night
I've been thinking a lot about yeah, and I keep seeing and forgetting because I'm at the store on
Comedy business not on podcast business and when I get in the car and I slam the door and I'm driving up world came
I'm like fuck. I didn't ask her when he was available
And I saw you the other night briefly and I was gonna get right back to you in there
And you know how the stories? Oh, yeah, you just disappear into a fucking crowd and there you go
You don't know if you're gonna see him anymore like Paulie. Well, I mean, I didn't you know
I know you've got a thousand people hitting you up to be on it. I'm shy with
I'm just you know, I don't ask
It's just cuz I'm good. I don't want to be a pain in the ass. No, it's weird. I
Always like finding a hook for people
That's what people understand like sometimes some people come to me go
I want to be in the podcast. Yeah, I want to have you on the podcast also
Let me wait for a hook
There's got to be something a topic something happens in your life
Something happens at the store a generality. Sure and we get you in there
I'd rather get you in there the hook and just walk you in and
Not fucking have anything to talk to you about. Yeah, I mean I get it
You know, it's still I mean I've wanted to come on for a long time. Yeah, it's you know, it's the weirdest thing
I like to have people on the show that I know. Yeah, for sure. They'll have some sort of relationship with or
I know a lot about it's the people who hit you up that you don't know at all
Like you just don't know these people like I want to be on your show. Oh, who the fuck are you?
You know, I don't even know you
So it wouldn't work. We'd be we'd have to play catch up for an hour before the show started
Right and then do the fucking show most people have a background
This I like all I need is one thing to relate to and we could spread out the podcast, you know
So I'm sorry if it took long to get to you. Oh, no
I mean the reason why I wanted to be on is because you keep it real, you know, you're gonna see gonna do
Well, there's a lot of people who don't what else are you gonna do? I mean, I cannot
I'm older already, you know, well, I'm gonna come in here and fucking
You know, yes, that was at the park with my daughter. I'm sitting there and
My daughter's playing with some girl and the husband is talking to my wife and the guy's wife is standing there staring off into fucking Jupiter
And we're sitting there having a good time
and a fucking guy walks on here some fucking
Far and I don't know and he's coming in with a white wife and
They start yakking and talking and he's loud and he's a noxious the guy and he's like, I wish they sold beer at the park
You know, what are you fucking talking about? Shut the fuck up
He's like I like to tie one on at the park, you know, I just I didn't know my fucking point was but
It's just weird how you know who's gonna work on the podcast for you, you know, who's not
Oh, sure, you know, you don't want to have a bad podcast you at least people want
Them to get something out of the podcast. My point was about that guy
Was that he was the biggest fake?
Right. He was a typical
You know studio city
fake fucking dad
The wife had the yoga bag for everybody knows she went to yoga, you know, they had the crib
Out loud. He talked about auditions and the new movie he got in Japan, you know, people won't don't do that
That's not how I grew up with people
Shut the fuck up. I remember when they went away. I finally looked at my wife
I'm like, thank God that motherfucker got the fuck away from me
My wife came you look like what I don't even want to hear that shit right fucking Sunday
Save it somewhere else, you know, I can't be that type of person. Well, that's why I love you
I can never be I can never
Oh one credit cards and being a vacation and jump up and down and tell people I'm having a good time
You owe fucking 20,000 on credit cards. What good time to jab, you know, they're eating everything you're eating
You're looking at like a fucking bumpy, you know
people who
You know
Drive a car to impress people. I'm over that shit. Like I'm over all that shit, you know, like I was over that when I was 21
right, you know, so
The only way I know how to treat people is just
You know, the way you're supposed to be treated nice and simple. Yes
If I like you, I like it. If I don't like you keep fucking walking
You know, why fuck with people? Why give somebody a
False whatever you may not like somebody or something one take, you know, the greatest thing about Earth is that we're all not perfect
And we all don't have to like the same movies and we all don't like to have to like the same music
That's the best thing about being an American. I think about being in this planet is that you have that option
Because in some places you don't well, no, we all have that option of
You don't like that person you you were raised well enough not to tell that person you don't like them
But you avoid them, but I find the older I get it's harder for me to hold
When I don't like someone in like if I don't like someone they know
Well, they know because of your body language. Yeah, absolutely
No shit like that, but I don't have the heart to tell somebody let's never don't like unless they're getting on my last function
I'm trying to have a good time. Then you have to tell people exactly, but I
Wouldn't want somebody to tell me they didn't like me. So I use it the same way
You know when somebody's in your corner when I dumb, you know, we're not talking 10 anymore
You know when somebody lives and breathes for you, and you know when somebody's in the Queens
Absolutely, there's a big fucking difference when you know that person will live and die for me
But that person's just a hello goodbye. Good to see you. What are we doing lunch? Let's get together. I love your podcast
You know when you're gonna have me on I'm gonna have you on yours and all that shit people want to hear out of you
it is kind of weird though like my
My my go-to is always like I I
Don't talk I try to say hi and get out of the way like I don't I don't really stick around
But it is kind of weird sometimes when you feel like you're putting out like hey
I'm not really a huge fan of you and they just stick around and like they won't they can't take a hint
Like I never want to be an issue. I never want to have someone like oh, he's overstaying his welcome
So like I but there's some people who do the opposite of that
Well, they just don't get social cues like someone has their back turned to you
They don't want to talk to you right. It's pretty good. I mean I
Don't know I was raised just to be
Straightforward people. Yeah, thank you. Listen. You gotta lie to get a piece of pussy. You gotta lie to get a job
You know I'm saying I'm like, yeah, you ever you ever go to move the moon before all the time
I was just there last week, you know, whatever to get a job
So, you know when we all first start dating a girl or girls for women don't listen
When you start dating a guy all of a sudden you love the Boston Red Sox too, you know, I'm nothing
Gives you permission to go buy a hat to wear the game with us to look like a fucking idiot. Take the fucking hat off
You like hockey and fucking ice skating, you know, it's the same thing we do, you know on the first day
You like cats. I love cats. You don't fucking like cats. You'll kick that motherfucker. She's gone around
But we all have to tell those little white lies. I get that
But to be dishonest with somebody like the guys I have respect for the most and call me as bookers
Were the people who looked me in the face and said listen, you're too blue to work on my club
Right as a feature act get some credits and call me back
With I am very tight with those people today
Because they told me what their business called for
And what I needed to be to work in their business. It's the people who come up to you at the store and go, hey
You want to go to my club in san antonio and you're like, yeah
Send the tape and I'll get you in there and you send the tape and I never pick up the phone
Then you don't see him for three or four years and you see him
And they don't talk to you. They give you some excuse. I never got any messages
I never got your tape
And then one day you get booked on comedy central premium blend
And they put an offer in me
Hey, Joey. Yeah, how you doing, man? It's great to see all your success and you sit there and you want to smack them
Say something to him because now I have people contacting me that would not even answer the phone for me
Oh, yeah, it's very funny and they're happy for my success. They're all happy
I look at them. I'm gonna take their fucking envelope
I don't give a fuck. Don't even hit me with that. We all know what this is
We all know what this is. This is no likey. Nobody's likey. Nobody
We all know what this is. Okay
You come in you watch the first show for 10 minutes
You wait till after the show you tell me how the sensational set that you like the particular joke
And then I don't see you the rest of the weekend. You make your money and I make mine
That's exactly what we are and when you understand that
It makes everything when you understand exactly what position you're in
It makes your life your career that much easier
Sure, you know, you're working a restaurant and you're a dishwasher
And you're like, I know how to make this give this place
And you go up to the owner. You're like, why don't you do a happy hour on tacos?
And he looks at you like you're you got three fucking heads like going to the back kitchen
But you're a fucking retard. You're a dishwasher, you know
It's kind of the same fucking thing, you know
Well, I just wish uh
You know like adam at the comedy store when he showcased me he was like
Dude, I know everyone's telling me I gotta pass you because they love you and you've been up here forever
But if you don't do well, I can't pass you
And that's great. That's all I wanted to hear adam is very
Very very honest. Oh, I love adam has been thrown and I give my props to adam
Absolutely in a big way. He's done for people adam is the talent coordinator at the comedy store
Before we started the podcast Earl and I were talking about the comedy store when I first got there
And if you knew what the comedy store was then and you know what the comedy store is now
It's still a fucking major art hub in Los Angeles on the west coast
But now it has rules that are enforced
There was always loose rules
Mitsy always had rules for certain people certain people get away with certain things
Well leek could get away with I can't get away with him. Earl could get away with I can you know what I'm saying? Oh, absolutely
With adam it's pretty blatant and I've heard adam
Be honest with people
Like one of my first two months at the store. I was just standing by the wall
And there was no school comic there and he was bugging adam
And adam answered him like listen, there's just no room for you here
The industry wants younger acts blah blah blah blah
My heart sunk
For the guy. So my heart sunk for the guy. He's been around for 30 years
Great comic movies the whole thing, but it's true
You're 60 and there's no room for you here anymore. Oh, yeah, it's time to move on
Some other talent coordinator will go. Hey calling for spots on monday and pass the buck. That's what tommy would have done
Right pass the buck to paulia peter
Or whatever. I really appreciate adam. Oh, I mean adam has turned
That place around the first talent coordinator when I was there also helped my career immensely
He broke it down
All right, and I loved him. I still talked to him on facebook. He lives in africa where the fuck you live scott day
scott day did not play
Scott they knew what the time it was down there. He knew that the place was run
He kept a little bit of semblance and he would give you advice
You want more spots? Don't call him for thursday friday saturday
Let me know you're available the whole fucking week and you're like, oh, I got it now
He would tell you little things. He would talk to you at night. He would still be there at 10, you know, right?
Which for you that's very rare of adam
I gotta take my hands off the adam tommy was there to steal
Wow
Yeah at night
But the guys before tommy the talent coordinators
They really didn't hang till after 8 30 8 30 they would be there having a drink
And they'd fucking believe they didn't have really relationships with agents
They didn't have relationships of management
The guy after fucking
My guy scott day that left was there and I missed the movie
Because he didn't really like me and paramount called for me for an audition. They didn't know how to get a hold of me
He never said nothing to me. I found that years later from paramount
Yeah, they hired me for something different and said we wanted you for this
We called the store three times and left messages. We didn't know how to get a hold of you
So there was a lot of that shit going on where I don't like Earl mitzvahs to Earl, but I'm not an Earl favorite
Right, so when william morris calls here looking for Earl skakel
I tell him I don't know what his number is. I don't even know what he's talking about
How
And I think I know the answer, but I'd be interested to hear to you guys talk about it
How much of this business is fair and how much of it is stuff like that just who who likes you
Like is there any fairness in this business? There's yourself to a simple question. Is life fair?
Not really then why would fucking economy be fair?
Yeah, I mean, there's also what you consider fair. Nothing is fair. And that's what you consider fair
And in this business, you're gonna see a lot of different things like in any business
You know, it's like when you work for a loan company you quit high school
While you were in high school, you work for a fucking lumberyard
Okay, you start in the back. They promote you to the cutter
Next, you know, you're loading next know your driver
Next, you know, you're running the place in the back
You're actually the general manager. He talked you out of college
To be his general manager and the thing
Then another guy leaves now they move you inside
And you're a fucking, you know, the whole business from the inside and the outside
Now you're the general manager you're there for 20 years and the owner's about to retire
Who's gonna be the fucking number one man
You hopefully we'll guess what happens. He's got a son right who's a retard
And he went to Harvard and you know any time in the 20 years of his existence. He walked into that lumberyard
Three zero, right twice to pick up checks to go out down the shore with his buddies
And now that fucking jerk off
Is gonna come in and be your boss and not only is it gonna be your boss
He's gonna come in and change the system around because he's a college boy. He learned by that
and fucking
The people who deliver for you, you know Uber delivers
So he's gonna cut the lumberyards and have uber eats or live his fucking plywood. It's amazing
So is that fair that you gave your whole life for a company?
And now this this guy had a much son and now he comes in
Never spent the summer you never loaded a roof with you in the summers never came in on the summer job
Is that fair not really all right then, you know, I'm not saying nothing racist here
Not saying nothing racist
Me and our scapegoat the agents
We've been working the streets of our life for 10 fucking years in san francisco. Okay
Lee is Puerto Rican he just graduated
Emerson with a social social economics degree and the fucking
a law degree
All of a sudden you come in
Me and Earl put
transfers to go to miami
Guess who gets the job you because you're spanish and they need one extra guy down there
So me and our scapegoat gotta keep sucking dick and sacramento
Smoking meth with a bunch of dirty white people till I teeter it up. You follow me
So everybody catches a break at the end of the day
I gotta explain some to you before you get negativity in your mind
Even an old dog gets a warm spot on the sidewalk
At the end of the day it all fucking evens out
I think so you're gonna be shafted in this fucking life
You have to accept that you're gonna be fucked in this life
You go home and drink and jump up and down but eventually
Somebody's gonna be in your position
And you're gonna fuck them for it all evens out
So all that bitching and crying you did when you were 31 how you got fucked and you deserved it
And you went to brown for four years and you were a genius and you were part of the chess club
That all goes out the window because it all evens out
For years I cried now i'm sitting here telling you what there was nothing to cry about
There was nothing at all to cry about this whole thing evens out
You just have to give it a shot
And keep trying
You know there's gonna be those auditions you go in eight times
They make you take your shirt off
They make you dance
They make you come in early in the morning and read from the stars in the movie
And you're not gonna get it. They're gonna go with a penguin
You're gonna be there all week long all week long three times with the same three white guys
The same three white guys. This is nine episodes of modern family league
This could change your life forever get you a theatrical agent get your spots in town
You go in monday. They love you. You go on tuesday for producers. They love you
You go on wednesday for networking producers. They love you same three guys me you and erl all three days
You you wish erl gets hit by a bus
And if joey dears could get hit by a bolt of lightning you would give up your fucking pension to the jewish gods
That's how you feel after the third day that you see erl skakel and fucking joe dears the same audition
And they're both going for the same thing you're going
Guess what these motherfuckers do to you?
They make you come back again on thursday and they make you reread the fucking thing
And then guess what they do to your friday? They make you come down again
And read with the star of the fucking tv show
At 10 in the morning
So now the rest of the fucking day you can't even fucking focus
On what's going on?
You're thinking about you heard erl and he sounded better in the audition and joey dears brought in a white shirt
And fucking you fucked up and you're thinking all this now
It's saturday morning your girlfriend wants to suck your dick
But you can't let her suck your dick because all you're thinking about is this role
And how it's going to change your fucking life and how you're going to get spots now and people going to respect you
And you're going to get eight episodes our modern fucking family and sunday when you go to your parents house
You know you want to hear their fucking voice
When they're feeding you the potato pancakes and they're lighting candles on the yarmulke or whatever you fucking blowing them out
Fuck you. You can't even focus and monday morning at eight fucking 30 the first call is your agent
You're about to answer it. You got the fucking roll. You pick up the phone. They go. Hey
We just want to tell you they went with somebody else and you go goddamn it
It was joey because of the white shirt and they're like, no, they changed their mind. They went with a black guy
And you're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
What the fuck are you talking about? Is that worse?
That it's it's not it's i'm not saying a black guy could say a chinese one. I'm just saying
They change it to a woman they do that to you
But then one day guess what we're sitting in this room
Elsekakel
Well one night steven spielberg walks into the school store and falls in love with her
What's the right to story? It's possible
fucking page blockbuster
85 million dollar budget
And one day your phone rings and it's her and he goes. I want you to shoot 11 days on my movie
And you sit there and go do after addition. No, no, no, just go to wardrobe get fitted. You start next monday
And that's how life works and remember that tv show that you read for a modern family, right?
Well the season you were going to read for it wasn't hot no more
The gay guy got shot during the all season
Everybody watches the show no more
So you're all that panicking and crying you did and all that stardom you built up in your head
What's for nothing
Well, how how hard is it then to win the good things happen?
How hard is it for you to keep a keep a level head and not get too excited because eventually it's gonna end
Right like do you have to worry about that?
When I got here, I saw a very important lesson. I saw a man by the name of tom rhodes
With long hair
At the improv and his show had just been canceled
And you know look on his face like his show had been canceled
But he went up on stage and rocked the mic
And at that moment I said no matter what you do you always be a stand-up
They can't take that away from you right there at that moment. It was my
Seventh comedy year of doing comedy. Maybe eight years of doing comedy
I realized at that moment that we were something special because we did comedy
If I fuck jesse smell that up the ass
I won't ever work on tv no more, right? They'll never hire me on tv no more
They find the picture me with jesse fucking them with a rope around his neck
Wherever the trump hat on I'm not working ever again. You don't know that. I don't know. I know that for a fact in today's climate
Well, I got a movie no voice over you got a better chance of fucking hitting the fucking
wacko wacko wackbot
But I can always do stand-up in small clubs
And close with the story about the time when I fucked jesse smell it up the ass and I would let do it
Cheese and always make a living and have a t-shirt with jesse with
The thing on you understand me. So right there I put it I figured it out
I figured out and then over the years I saw people who got built up to be stars
And it fell apart and they couldn't handle it
Oh, yeah, and then I figured out that this business is about hard work and staying here
I believe that staying here
Staying here and now your comedy
Shifts now your life shifts when you first started comedy
You bombed nine times out of every 10 sets
And after 90 days you bomb eight times after every
And so on and so on and the more you do it the less the bombings come
Well, now the percentage has changed for you
Once you get to la in the major leagues and once read something that
Who did uh, who's the bald guy that's good looking that does the car movies?
Oh, yeah, Benz diesel Benz diesel said something interesting goes. I I'm not a star. I just stayed here
I guess when he moved here he moved here with nine people
After three years three of them left
You know he kept plugging sure two more years went by two more got married and left
He hung in that's it
That's it. This is what the what did you start comedy?
So long ago. I literally don't remember but I obviously 99 ish
Here and yeah, you know, I but I went to the store
You're originally from where Bell Air, California. No shit. You went to high school. Where Notre Dame High in the valley
No shit. So college
I didn't really uh, smc the junior college in Santa Monica. I never really finished. It just wasn't for me
What did you do at that time?
I became a fitness trainer. I used to be a lot bigger
Uh, and then I knew I wanted to do comedy. I just knew it
When did you know you wanted to do comedy? What a probably the fourth grade play I did when I got a big laugh
I was like that. I'll never forget it. It's probably the most genuine laugh I've ever gotten
It was just a one line in the fourth grade play and I just I want that now as an adult
Did you go home and buy an album after that? Um
You know all in the family was like my first comedy
Inspiration, you know, it wasn't traditional stand-up
You know, I loved what Archie Bunker not what he was saying
But how he would say it and still be likeable
And then there was a show called the white shadow
Tremendous, which was like an ensemble all in the family
It was a white basketball coach with an all-black team on cbs
On monday nights. Yeah at like nine o'clock. It was an hour dramedy. He was one of the first
He was great. He came to the store one day. Can raise the coach
It's ken Howard ken Howard when I first got that sugars in 80 times
I was ready to give my hand job because I loved
The white shadow, you know, how old are you if you don't mind 50 so 50 so you grew up at a time when
Archie Bunker to me was
The people I was living right right so to me it was just another day
Sure paradise. I didn't look at it as an edgy show
That's the way
You know
I had friends you went to the house
When their dad walked in hungers jacking up
They would just walk up to you and look at you and say
Get the fuck out of my chair and you accepted it. You didn't run home and tell your mom
Mr. Skake will tell me to get the fuck out of his chair and you sat in the other chain you watched tv with them
You know, right one of the best episodes. I think I ever saw
Of him, especially with comedic timing
Was uh
When the Puerto Rican found the wallet
Okay, it is cam was I think sammy davis left us. He left us briefcase briefcase
But there was something with the Puerto Rican came through from, you know, who it was cheek on the man
Yeah, freddy prince. No, no, no, it wasn't freddy prince. It was the guy that played
The spanish guy in fact that guy made a career
Out of playing hector
Sanford and son
I don't want no Puerto Ricans in my house. I was talking about the guy hector hector did
Sampling son
Hector did
The Puerto Rican
All in the family
Hector also
Was in a few episodes of miami rice in the beginning. Oh hector fucking hector rocked
But in that episode
He comes to the door
They invite him in
And he looks at either he goes either. Don't you stand there?
Or from something to drink
And she goes, what would you like? I got milk. I got beer
And he goes, I don't know. He goes off from whatever Puerto Ricans like
Right way to the side. And also he looks him straight in the face. He goes, how about some pineapple juice?
And I I don't know how old I was
I fucking lost it
There was two parts in television history that I lost it. I watched them live
I'm very fortunate
The friday night with red fox
When he went into the courtroom
And he was like, look at all these niggas in here. There's no niggas in here to make a Tarzan movie. That was NBC prime
I know
It was they was sampling the southern eight o'clock and cheek on the man at 8 30
And if you were anything of a comedy family like I was for me it started with
JJ Walker. Oh, sure. It was good times
Then there was it was white shadow and then and I was a basketball player, right? So I related to white shadow, you know
uh
Then it was the NBC lineup
Which was fucking deadly comedy, right? And if you paid attention it went on to become Miami vice
Fridays at nine and crime story. Oh, I love that show. They had to do dice clay
I try and turn so many people on the crime story and it was only around for two seasons
But two seasons Michael man. He had two shows on back to back right crime story was his yeah crime story at uh
Miami vice was his but that's when vice kind of started going downhill is when he left to do crime story. He left it to other people
and uh
isn't zedo left uh
Miami vice and midway through season three and it was never the same because he was the comic relief with uh swytec
So, you know, they were like the two detectives who would like zedo died from the old d
Yeah, the uh, they put a box in episode and the guy in that episode was peppy serna
We all he's uh legendary. I peppy serna was who got his arm cut off
In uh in scarface. Yeah, and I did a movie with him and one day we were talking like how was that seen to do because I don't know
But they had two arms and I took one
And I he made it for 75 grand
He took the one arm from the
From the uh, yeah peppy serna. Who else is in that?
episode
Let me uh, mark brieland was the boxer mark brieland. Jesus christ. I mean, I'm like a new
Miami vice is probably my favorite show of all time. So are you serious?
Uh, oh, yeah, I mean it took me three or four episodes. No
The pilot came on september of 84
Which was like on a sunday night. It was a sunday night two hour premiere
And I was at a bar called gregory's seven day weekend
heavy duty bar bottles at the door
You know fucking the loud loud jukebox and for that
For some reason cocaine was an all-time eye
Cocaine was an all-time eye people were getting high for days
It was september of 84 and people
Was snorting with both fucking hands in my neighborhood
Everybody was on coke
The whole country was pretty much on coke and all of a sudden they released this show
Called miami vice about these two cops in miami
That are chasing the the one cop is chasing a guy named calderone
down to miami and he teams up with crocket when his
Up tart with his partner who was played by jimmy smits
And the pilot is blown up. Yeah, so now crocket needs a partner
You know tootie the black girl. Oh, yeah, she was a waitress at the store. Really?
Bro, you have no fucking idea how much history the store has to that
So one night i'm sitting there
In the front and chewy the x-door man is talking to a black guy
The black guy happened to be the black guy in far as gum
Oh, yeah, the shrimp guy. I guess so tell me his name. Oh, I because he was also in the great santini
Okay, so that black dude isn't a pilot
of miami vice
He plays calderones middleman
and there's a scene
Where he
Him and crocket are working together. This was a legendary night for a guy like me
Like i've had many legendary nights at the store, but on this particular night
He was standing six feet from me
And I didn't know how to approach him. There was no
No way in my world. I was gonna approach this guy
He did not know how big of a fan. I was his what's his name. It's not michael t
I was gonna say is it mickey? Hold on. Michael t. William. So michael t. Michael t
mckelty williams. Oh, yeah, that williamson mckelty williamson. There you go. So
mckelty williamson has a line in miami. He meets
Don johnson first with the other guy by themselves. He meets don and then
He can you see him leave a barbecue place
And he gets in this fucking beautiful Mercedes Benz and before he gets in
He wipes the side panel with his suit and he gets in
And he's about to get into a barbecue and don johnson's convertible
Don johnson jumps in the 450 slc and smacks the chicken out of his hand
And the guy just looks at don johnson and he goes barbecue on my postery
I've killed for less and he goes save me the tough talk leon. His name is leon
So the night progresses by the robot and he gets he's getting closer to me and out of nowhere
He goes, you had a good set tonight. I watch it
Chewie said to go on and watch it and you were gonna be good
And he he said michael t and I go, I know y'all and I looked him straight in the face and I go
Barbecue on my upholstery
I've killed for less
And he looked at me all the way and I go Miami vice 84 and he goes, oh shit
I go, that's how long I've been a fan of yours, you know and
So he proceeded to tell me he auditioned for it
And didn't hear anything and one night he went up to the comedy store
And the black girl at the comedy store had just done trading motherfucking places
No 48 hours
tutti
Is the chick that eddie murphy meets at the bar
In 48 hours when he goes up to nick nolte and goes come on dog
I just need an hour to get me some agambo
And nick nolte said what are you talking about? He was like, you know some agambo some trim
It's it's tutti
And then on the way out he gives him money and she goes
I'm not a pro when you get out look me up and we'll date I had a nice time with you
That's the first time you ever see tutti when she shot that she was at the comedy store
Eddie murphy met her at the comedy store and gave her a row of that
So now michael t goes up to the comedy store
meets tutti
And in the process of dating she gets
The audition for miami vice
They both get it
Leon gets killed in the pilot. Yeah, he's the car and which she ended up becoming a waitress
That's why it was cool to be a waitress after the word got out
That waitresses were born at the comedy store now. They're doing tv series
A bunch of spying actresses started getting waitressing jobs at the store. Oh, that's crazy. Does it make sense? A lot of people go in there
Why not? Yeah, why not even take that? Years ago, vana chubbock was a great acting school
But one tolly berry and the white chick won the academy award back to back
They were both her students her money went up to the roof
It went from 200 a fucking month to 255
And now every hot chicken time
Was signing up for vana chubbock's class
Whatever that fuck. What's the hot white chick six foot tall?
I'm charlie's
Yeah, so charlie's
It was charlie's and holly berry academy of woodwind is back to back and they were both in
In my acting class
women's
To get into that class and if you got into the thursday night class and a vana chubbock
Agents would be up there. Give me that fucking checks
Fuck so you had to work yourself up into the thursday night class
I don't know how we got on this. Forgive me. I know. No, please
I mean, my amy by I could talk for hours on my amy vice
What made you get into my amy vice? Did you see the pilot? Oh, yeah
I was into dallas at the time
You know jr and all that and I just wanted a new show. I was a not-so-landing type of motherfucker
Wednesday nights was not-so-landing. I think thursday was dallas and wednesdays. I stayed in i had a night off from coke
I think it was a shitty ladies night or something. It wasn't it. I wasn't into it. I mean friday was
Dallas, so that's why it was a big deal. Dallas is friday. Miami. It was dallas duke's a hazard on channel two
And then that's why it was a big deal at miami vice was such a big show because it was directly taking on those two shows
so
But I just love the show and like
You know, greggory sierra was the original captain
on miami vice
And he lived here and he didn't want to go to miami. He wanted more money for the plane tickets and stuff
So they just killed him. They blew him up. Not jimmy smits. Gregory sierra
He died on the like the third episode in he died on the boat
Yeah, that's what i'm talking about that. He was the spanish guy. No, that was jimmy smits died
Yes, jimmy smits died when he got blown up by the car, but then in episode three
They send the columbian the argentinian
the argentinian in episode three
To go shoot a hit list
Crockett
tubs
And he had the captain on there. So when the captain went to save Crockett
The guy was
Watchtower and he killed that guy. Yeah, Gregory sierra is the guy who i'm talking about. I wasn't cheeky on the man
Oh, okay. Look up Gregory sierra on high mdb
And i was that guy was the token fucking spanish guy here
And the 70s and 80s and that guy ain't worth 10 million dollars. I don't know who the fuck is
Is he dead? No, I think he's alive
But can you imagine if he stayed on vice like he just didn't want to travel and he's so
I think he hit him up for more money. It says he's still alive
He's still he's still working. He took a long time off actually, but he just did something last year
What's his tv credits? Oh my god. It's probably like an hour to read his tv credits. Yeah, oh my god. Oh, wow
Yeah, he started working in the 60s or early 70s. Yeah 69 it takes a thief
Um
Tremendous mod squad. I reckon i'm not recognized squad was another great show on abc the flying nun tremendous
He was in beneath the planet of the apes. Yeah, this guy's in everywhere. It was in the bill cosby show. Oh, watch out
um
Mission impossible all the family
What year was that do you think because right now i'm in 72 keep going he was in the waltons
All in the family 73 told you who the fuck you think you're dealing with sanford and son 75 a y 50
Told you every hit colombo
Every hit show he was the token spanish guy. Yeah, and that's only not only up to 74
He didn't stop working gun smoke
sanford and son in 72 75 the sanford and son
Um
12 yep, I do not want no Puerto ricas
In my house barney miller. He did 35 episodes. I'm telling your dog. I think he was a sheriff or not a sheriff
A cop or detective in the fucking room him and fish. Yeah, this was crazy
I looked up to that guy growing up. I was like, that's the guy
Yeah, like how much work does he get as a spanish guy soap?
He didn't soap was such a good show. I'm telling you that's for the time
Like that's why I love all these shows like soap all in the family white shadow
This is when there's only three networks
No, no showtime or hbo's believe it or not. You're looking at a guy that really really really
I think if there was a show that
Broke me before the honeymoons the show honeymoons broke me that broke me comically
Sanford and son and archie bunker were great. The honeymoons took
Benny Hill my combination was Benny Hill. The honeymoons came out 11
Uh
Odd couple. Yeah, that's why I came out at midnight. You couldn't beat that you just stayed in just to watch that shit
That's weird, but I always felt that
Gregory Sierra
Sierra was one of those guys that you know, you just looked up to
You you had it if you watch television. I just told you I just knew who he was
On two or three shows. I didn't know he was in all that
That was a lot more than I anticipated. He worked
constantly guys
Like they had no Spanish people that fit his mode. He's like the true definition of character actor
You don't know his name. You're like, I know that face
and uh
It's like that episode of the white shadow where the russian kid tries to defect from the basketball team that guy
for kid his name john
something
He's his imdb page has to be a
500 credits. He's he's like go white guy. You can play polish russian jewish. He works constantly to this day
Did you act a lot?
Not really up until recently like I was in I'm dying up here just playing a bitter late night comic
so I really wasn't acting uh
but uh
You know, no, I was too scared. I was trying to get into comedy and let alone start acting. I'm like, oh boy
What was the first place you got on stage at?
Comedy store you went up to ended the three minutes and I'll be completely honest with you. I paid dave tyree to write for me
Because I saw him open up for eddie griffin
Yes, and I was in the main room and I was just like, well, this guy's pretty dirty
He had a bit about uh, fingering a girl. It's like feeding a horse
and
It's like that's kind of humor. I want to do so I paid him
And I still have the jokes he gave me they were all stolen jokes
Like I didn't know any better back then but they were all like, you know, hey, I bought a liquor cabinet
I didn't even drink. You know, I was like, I've heard that in a joke book before
So he kind of ripped me off, but like
Serves me right
You know, I should have just gone out there and talked about, you know, I don't know growing up in bel-air
It's a weird angle to have most comics are poor or you know, come from a poor background
I was lucky enough to come from a semi
Uh, not wealthy, but you know, what'd your parents do if you don't mind me asking? Oh, no, no my dad, uh
He was like MacGyver
You would get the reference because I told uh, jesse maple is so that today and she's like, who's MacGyver?
He was like good at everything
Scratch golfer at the worst golf swing you've ever seen, but he could have been a pro
He's on the cover of life magazine
And I think 64 if we're killing a whale
How do you put money in the bank?
How do you feed you guys?
His his dad and the depression
Would drive by oil refineries
And he would see that they would just throw away their waste
And he'd go into all these refineries and go can I have your waste?
They thought you're crazy go take it and he turned it into graphite
and so
His company was the largest privately owned company in like the 60s in america
But then my dad went uh real deep on an oil
Drilling exposition in the amazon that didn't quite work out. So, you know, we grew up
You know
Not as wealthy as we could have
And then mom was in the thoroughbred racing business
She raced them more
She raised and she was from carter'sville georgia
So she had a horse farm and they raised like champion thoroughbreds and
So there's a lot of money and so I grew up on horse racing
You know, I don't know what's going on at santa anita these days, but
28 horses 30 two died this weekend who died
It's like the dominican republic
Santa anita is like the dominican republic every two days
Another horse dies and somebody's having a sale on tacos in la
Somebody's giving away free samples. You know i'm saying of a marinated horse
I don't you know, I was gonna I got past this this year and after all the deaths
I had a boy caught it in my heart. I was like, you know what?
Uh
In my heart, I shouldn't give a fuck about the horses
But I'll tell you who love horses and who loved the races my mom right
She wouldn't have gone for that shit. So I ripped up the passes. That was all we always did it once a year
Yeah, we we were a couple times. Yeah always always. I love but went out there in the sun
Oh, it's beautiful. I can't have these, you know, they had a problem when they shot that hbo series. Yeah luck
Horses were croaking. I loved it. Oh, you like the show. Oh, yeah, the show was great. Yeah
Oh, he's very realistic
But just uh, the horses were dying. They couldn't know that's why they canceled after two seasons
There was a problem. So something's going on in san anita. Either it's the liquor cabinet
You know the fucking it's not good, but isn't it just that horses? You can't really heal them
So if they get an injury then you have to put them down 20 30 horses in six months
Well, I think there's a lot of drugs and yeah, I'll do it basically give them horse steroids
Oh, okay, and you know, they just get so big and muscular that once they break down they're beyond repair
Which is yeah, I can't watch horse racing anymore. I get
Because it is kind of animal abuse or whipping the horse to go faster. Yeah, you know
I never really looked at it that way
And the horse don't gotta dime like, you know, if you make a million dollars in the horse, well, you're gonna put him in the penthouse
Yeah, he's still gonna be in a three-dollar fucking barn surrounded by mice and a little goat
That's where the abuses I got a horse that wins me a million dollars a million dollars there
Through 30 000 here. I got the horse in a nice stable. I got him a nice little horse that he could tie up
and fuck
You're my freezer filled with fucking stakes. Yeah, they like I think they're like, hey, I think they're cheap
I don't know. I
I'm gonna be honest when I was a kid. I had a friend and
One time he went to the metal and they told me he was in the state take me down there and you talked to the trainers and
I didn't like it
That's why I found out about that drug you shoot horses
If they bleed through their nose
You shoot them with a drug
So lasix
Oh, okay, lasix. So when you go on the bedding form
It tells you what horses have lasix and they're pretty much it raises their rods to win
So I would bet the horses on that drug to make the bleeding stop
But after I learned all that stuff
It just wasn't I never wanted to go to the back. I don't know where you go at the back stretch
Yeah, I don't stand and talk to the horses. Yeah, I don't want the trainers
That's not my back. Like I don't want to I don't like I don't like cooking. I don't want to see raw meat. Right, right, right
I don't want to look behind the curtain
I've seen enough times behind the curtain, you know, and it's negligent part of me is negligent for doing, you know
But at the same time it's going to keep going no matter how I feel
People are not going to stop betting horses or horses. Oh, no
I mean it's not going to stop
But I just won't go to this place because there's something going on in this place
I mean, yeah, it's weird. I mean, but as a kid like the first two athletes I followed were horses
There was seattle slew Jesus who was the 78 triple crown winner
And I cried when he lost he was like undefeated and then he lost at san anita and I remember crying like oh
He's not the best anymore. And then there was a white horse
uh named vigers
Who his thing was
Dead last by a lot
He was like the white guy in the hundred-yard dash in the olympics just like
And he would win he would just get this bolt of energy and you there'd be some races
He was so far back you couldn't see him in the camera shot
And then as soon as they hit the home stretch you just saw like this white bolt of lightning
It was like watching jordan play basketball. It's the most and then uh
I got into hockey in the 80s, but like, you know, where were your mom's tables at?
Cartersville, georgia
So how far from the house?
Well, I grew up in bel-air. So uh, she kept it there and uh, you know, my mom was a weird person like
Possibly, uh, you know molested by someone and you know, her dad was killed at nine
And her dad was like the bear bryant of uh, georgia high school football coaches. So
Uh, you know, she was a very private person like, you know, she's still with us
No, I lost both my parents two months apart in 98. What'd they leave you?
I'm just kidding. You're fun
Well, they let me a couple bucks. I'm not good. I can't lie down called joey and lee inside joe
I don't mean to be offensive like please. I love it when somebody's parents just die like after a day
Right like when they're heartbroken
And they're confused and you go up to them
And you shake their hand, you know, I love your dog. I know what you're going through. I'm very sorry for your pain
They don't thank you for coming
And they go how was everything else going and how bad and you wait till they're fucking alone, you know
How much is in the well
We got coming and they're looking and they go you son of a bitch
They laugh right because you're trying to break the absolutely after a day or two
I usually catch people a day and a half after their parents die
And I call them or if I can approach them
And I approach them
I wish you around back there
And I always say to them like what what did mom leave you under the mattress?
And they look at you for a split second and they go
You motherfucker. I knew you're gonna make me laugh. That's why you know, right? I love doing that to people
I love it because I remember how I felt
When my mother died
People would leave the funeral parlor and go jesus christ. I've never seen so many spicks in my life
On the other circumstances. I should have not I should have said fuck you. They're my family
But I had a laugh because they were honest
Yeah, no, it's you know, you were very you know, you asked me
Why i'm so honest in my words and my heart to people
I was surrounded with that when I was growing up. There was no
Today we're scared to talk to our friends
We're scared to talk to our friends
We live in a society where we are petrified. It's not like the old days when I go eat skakel. Come in for a second
What happened to that joke? Well, I didn't like it. Well, who gives a fuck what you like that was killing
Thank you uncle joey. I didn't know. Yeah, put it back where it belonged
Well, I really don't like it because my girlfriend's parents are black. There's a fuck. It's a joke
You know what i'm saying like people don't do that no more
No, there's two and your close friends are really scared to say it the hey, bro
You're putting on some weight. Hey, bro. I saw you had six kids instead of two
Right, you know what i'm saying we live in a society. We can't do that no more
Now we need that more than ever
After brody passed we need shit
Called out on ourselves more than ever. I'm not talking about some guy from fucking
Tommy's underground cafe calling out eroskakel or eric griffin
I'm talking about comedy store guys going. Hey bro, come here for a second
Yeah, and I left and you were slurring you want to slur go to your mother's house
Have three drinks and get the fuck out of here. They'll look at you a little weird for three or four days
But if there anything which they usually are because they're at the comedy store
They'll come up to you. No, thank you for telling me that that there started calling me
And that's it. You know tell nobody nobody knows nothing
We're living in a society. That's not accepted
fucking
Archie bunkers said whatever he wanted
Meathead get off my couch stupid commies
You know, he used words that
We don't want to use we're living in a petrified
society
Hey dog, Joey last time I saw you looked pretty good. You put on some weight. What are you fat shaming me?
No, I'm your brother. I'm telling you that you're 56. I don't want to see you fucking die
Yeah, I mean don't fuck yourself three days later. I'll call you and go. Hey dog. I got on the scale
I gotta push the butter to the side. I put a little it's too much butter on the muffins, you know what I'm saying
That's what people do. That's what you do
That's not accepted no more
I pretty much fuck with people. I don't say a lot of things
About 10 years ago. So many came up to me and they go, you know, your problem is bro. You're not a mentor to these young guys
I was like, first of all, what the fuck am I to criticize somebody's act?
Or tell somebody what they should be doing if you're doing something funny. I'm gonna fucking tell you
If you're doing something funny, I'm gonna tell you if I see you when I get to know you
And we have a mutual respect for each other as teammates at the store
Come with it
Come with it. Joey the other night. You did that job. Why'd you get rid of it? Sometimes I just forget it
Sometimes, you know, that's what we have to have especially after Brody's gone now
We have to take care of each other more at the store
We're a family
But like don't text me ask me how I'm doing call me. You want to hear my voice?
You want to hear my fucking voice, you know what I'm saying?
You see somebody's little box at the store at nine o'clock
Pick up the phone at one. See what he sounds like I want
Is he slurring? Is he talking about something stupid?
Is he talking about a flat earth? Do we need to send?
Do I need to send three Jews in the fucking flute over there? You know what I'm saying? I mean
So
I'm happy you're part of the comedy store family. So first time you went up. We're at the store
Where'd you start going on after that after Tyree sold you bum jokes?
It's like I didn't know any better like no, I'm not mad at you. We all like we all get caught by a member
Punchline the movie. Oh, yeah, Tom Hank sells the chick jokes. That's how they meet
I mean, I just remember she gave 300 bucks from the cookie jar that her and husband was saving for vacation
I gave Dave a lot more than that and she paid. Yeah, she paid him 300. He tried to get a faith
and then she paid him five
And she told him fuck off and she would write her own jokes and then one night he picked her up at a diner and said
this is what the fuck you do
Wipe jokes. That's what they want to hear. They don't want to hear that shit you're talking about
And he took her out of Jersey and started taking her to clubs in New York
Keeping her out till two in the morning. She's killing. She's killing. That's a great movie guys. Oh, I love if you guys are fans of comedy
Please watch punchline because I guarantee you'll see
Why 200 comics
Called an open mic the next day. Oh for sure 100 comics
Didn't go online like a guy like me. You wanted the yellow pages
And you look for comedy clubs. There's four of them
And you called one the phone was disconnected
You called the other one. They didn't do an open mic and finally a third one didn't open mic on tuesdays
You got to call on monday
It's three minutes and you only get one open mic a month and you're like, okay
Uh, can I buy clicking there? I go
You're like, oh my god
I was telling somebody I went to a I never got on stage. I kept pussying out
Pussying out pussying out and finally
I got my five minutes ready
Me in the back of my mind. This is the first time I felt out of place. This is why rule number one
Don't go nowhere. You don't belong
so I
I read in the in the
Because at the time I was a doorman at wit's end
That was a small comedy club in westminster, colorado
A sea room nobody big ever
But just for laughs used to release a publication
And then the publication
Johnny walker
Comedy competition. Do you remember that at all? Yeah, johnny ward
Every year lee they had
For the people at home. They had a contest
HBO had a contest
And johnny walker had a contest around the country. Yes. Okay. And then the winner they did a
A show on cbs. Oh, shit. You were the johnny walker red
Champion of the year you got 20 weeks of guaranteed work from the improvs
And every other club
I don't know what they were gonna pay you
But now you were a half of a household name, right? So there was uh
The hbo one and then johnny walker and johnny walker. So I find out about the johnny walker competition
Guess who's going down there?
Uncle joey and guess what i'm doing. I'm planning on winning the whole thing
That's how delusional I was in the cocaine and the blow and the pills like and I was living a normal life like I was
Doing a day job and then at night. I would lose my mind. I called and I had a piss in the bottle then
I was I would do cocaine between the piss test. I was on a rocket ship. I love it
I go down until the comedy works sign up was at 9 a.m
I get that is 40 fucking people lord. I sign up. I go downstairs into a basement judges haven't showed yet
Half hour wait. I'm looking at these guys
This guy's got an mbc shirt on
This guy's got a late night with david let him in t-shirt on
This guy's got this shirt on
I got so scared. I fucking ripped up my fucking paperwork and left
And you hadn't been on stage yet. Nope. Oh chicken that
So what made you kept going back after the your first appearance at the spot?
Well, the first appearance speaking of brody brody was hosting
And I I didn't know him what you was this is probably 99 or 2000
And it was the sunday night open mic
And let's you'd be up there. She was not up there yet at this particular night
But there was a guy on stage from the hoia bombing pretty bad even back then it was it was bad
and uh
The guy knew he was bombing and I he kind of walked off stage real meekly
And brody's like I can't do a good impression of brody
But he's like, where are you from kid and the guy's like, well, hoia
And brody's like, well that drive just got a lot longer
And I was like, I don't think I'm ready for this place. Uh, and I went up and not bombed
uh with tyree's jokes
I was like, I think I'm gonna go open mics and stuff and come back
And I I don't think I came back till like 2009
so
Because I felt okay nine years and I'm ready to be seen with at least I thought I was at that time
to be seen with you know
People who are going up there and the lineups and uh, I probably wasn't even back then ready to
You know, you just want to start at the comedy store. It's like the mba. It's like
but I probably uh
You know what I got passed in 2013
And that's when I felt okay. I belong here
So it took you four years to get back. Yeah, well hanging out up there 13 overall four when I
Uh, because Tommy and I just never clicked for which is weird because we both like the same shitty 80s music and
You know, David Lee Ross solo albums and uh, but I just I didn't connect with him
You know
So, uh, where we doing open mics at the valley like there's a lot of rooms in the valley. I used to run mics
Uh, uh, of real like a speed freak bar called McReds
on Tuesday nights and uh, like tv comics would come in like the ian bag and
people of that nature, uh
but uh, did the improv a few times probably wasn't ready to be honest, uh, but then, uh
You know, I'd start opening up for rob schneider and that showed me the good side of the business
You know and he was very good to me
So it's like oh, there are good people in this business. What years what would what was making you go back night after night?
What did you feel?
I mean, I I always say you have to be delusional to think you're gonna make it
But it has to be based in reality. Like, you know, I probably can never play in the mba because I have no vertical leap
But with comedy I've always been told I'm funny and
All my friends were agents and managers like I see him and william morris and like dude
Just get into comedy. You're the funniest person. We know
We'll help you and then they all left to get into real estate. So
It's fucking bastards that fucking crazy. Yeah
So but the one still is in the business. He you know makes a call for me here and there
So because I'm at the point now I feel where I can't get any further on my own
You need a little you need a little phone call here or there, you know, so
You know, that's what I'm
Trying to you know, I'm not a great network or schmoozer
You know, I'm just pretty open honest. That's not really the best way to network
You when I go to the comedy store and I see you
I know I'm not gonna hear a bullshit story. You show up with love. Yeah
Respect I give you the respect I watch you sometimes like I was there one night. I was watching you made me laugh
I didn't know much about your background
Who passed you adam? I was the first person at me and kandace thompson were the first two people adam passed
How did what was the process now then?
Uh, well, I I was under a lot of pressure just because everyone was going up to adam going
Hey, you know, tommy really fucked Earl over. He's been up here for four years
You know, he's really funny or whatever they were saying and and like
People like brian scolaro were like hey adam like, you know, we're all
Open for me here. He's great. You got to pass him and like that's the worst way to get in
You know, it's like people asking you to be on your podcast, you know
You don't want people. Hey put her along. I'll put her along when I'm ready
Which is how this happened
And so adam just came up to me and he's like dude. I know everyone loves you
I'm gonna showcase you. Uh, but if you don't do well, I can't pass you
And which I I don't want to get in through any other way other than okay, this guy belongs
So it it worked out that night and uh
You know, but it's still there's so much pressure at the store now
Like the line-ups are crazy, you know, like they're like all-star line-ups every night
So, uh, how many spots do you get in a week? I would say on average two
Oh, I'm not good. Yeah, I mean no, listen that's
That's two spots that two people would give a finger for it in the oh, I mean, you know, always remember that that I never
Looked at it that way. I looked at it as fuck
I got a 115 spot
You know, what the fuck is going on my fucking life
I remember saying something brian holds from one night
He's like, why are you mad about because I would have coke in my pocket
And I couldn't do it. I got off stage. So the monkey was scratching
So the later I got on stage the pisser I would get the pissier I would get in those days
Until one night that holds when he goes, you know, what if you don't want to do your spot? Don't do it
Put a sign out there
And say I don't want my 115 spot. See how many people sign up for it?
And it all came into perspective
Oh, yeah, I mean I like the store because
Seattle, you know, okay
I moved to seattle when I was doing comedy four years
Two years jerking off on myself
Two years with my heart so open mind
Whatever we need sleeping the car
Sleep on that couch whatever gig you got
Wherever we need to sleep wherever we need to shower
This is what I need. I need a sandwich
A soda coffee
But besides that, I'm not big, you know, you pick up 75 bucks
Bubba bubba bubba, whatever the fuck it was. What the fuck was that doing?
You moved to seattle when I moved to seattle, but when you move to seattle, it's the same thing
When you there's open mics around town
But you have to move into the club. So go to the underground
And the first time carl looks at you checks you out and goes, okay. I kind of like you Lee. You're gonna go first
So for three weeks you go first
The second the last two times you've been killing and he moves you up to number five
Six minutes and yeah, you do about a month and a half of that number five now number six can't deal with you no more
So now he moves you up to nine
And now you've been there going for three years
But you're going up night. You're not going up first no more
You think because you still got your job at King comes
That you're not making strides
You're like i'm still a fucking kink goes
But you just moved up nine notches
Then next thing, you know, you're number 12
Then next thing, you know, you're following the guy. That's the guest
So if alley one comes in you're following that guy
And they leave you there until you get it right
And once you get it right now you start closing the night out
And now it's time for you to start doing 30 minutes in front of headliners
Now you get to the store like see i've seen you guys
Get to the store and start from scratch. Oh, yeah and become stars
I mean, I love it like I I still get chills when I walk by and see my name those four years
What were you thinking when you up there battling up? I mean, I'll be honest with you at times. I thought I quit and
Uh, you know, I don't know necessarily how serious I was but because I love doing stand-up like
Uh, but I was like, you know, you can only be told no so many times before you're like, Jesus
Maybe this isn't for me. And I knew as long as Tommy was there
Uh, I would never get past when Tommy was there. Were you getting spots there at all?
No, to be honest. There was nothing like that then like he uh one night nobody showed up
I think sabash it was supposed to go on and and he didn't show up and uh, I think Dave mischewitz was hosting
And he's like Tommy
Earl's the only comic up here. You got we gotta put him up for the show is over. So he put me on and uh
I don't want to say I killed but I did pretty well
and uh next night they didn't show up again. It was
You know and and went on did well and and did nothing and Tommy's eyes, you know
Didn't uh, he's just I don't think he liked me
and I like puzzled still like
You know why but uh, you know, just luckily he was uh, had some shady accounting methods and was fired. So
You know, it's crazy when you when you have a comic when you're a comic
or anything a chef
and you have a dream
And everything is going right and all of a sudden you get this bump in the road
You got some guy that's in front of you and on top of that. He doesn't like you. Yeah
Any particular reason what a fucking nightmare that is when you get to that point in your life
And he is what's holding you back to your dream
and eventually
You say fuck your dream and you're talking to go fuck himself
And you take a different avenue by you doing that you get stronger. Sure and three years from now you realize that guy
Got fired. These are the business and you're like, wow
I was right for doing what I was doing because at the end of the week it didn't really matter
I'm still here and he's not. Oh, yeah, but it's so weird when you make those personal decisions
in your life with
A comic booker a comedy club owner and I've lived it and seen it
The guys that would break balls. They were comedy club owners
That would break balls because they they thought
That club was the end all be all those guys today are gone
gone
But then there's guys like the guys in Nashville
Right, you know the guys that run the Tampa the Miami improv, you know joe
They run tempi, you know those guys have been around
And they've always been really decent and cool, you know, you would you enjoy going there the week
You know, you expect they know what to expect and you know what to expect
It was the guys that would break
Your fucking balls
The whole weekend from the minute
You got in
To the minute you fucking left
And when I think of those guys the number one guy of all time
Rest in peace the little prick
Danny Mer guy from tempi right. Oh, yeah never in my life
That I met and I and I genuinely
Read him it took me two years to read him right and once I read him I left him alone
and things worked out because
Okay
You're a carpenter and
They're building this huge three year building
Three years when you're a carpenter straight work
That's stability
We we could even be talking about electrician
We could be talking about whatever the fuck, right?
What we call
We need a job for three years of stability
Well, the guy from the tempi improv the tempi improv. Well that fucking guy
when he
The club was great the comics would all get their dick sucked
There was a time when comics were going down and coming back with their dick leaking
From six below jobs as they piece as it's a college town never for me
I'm never saying that it happened to me. It didn't happen to me. I'm saying that tempi was a hot comedy club
So they ran it on time
Danny Mer did a good job that way
but he fucking
ruled with an iron head his staff hated him
There was no hang at the club afterward and if you were a big-time headliner he'd want to hang with you
So he'd already set the night up for you
So it's me you and skake. I take you you guys down with me
I plan us to do the fucking night
And then go to this burger joint
It'll come to you one ham on stage
And say so you guys ready to go out and you're like, what are you talking about?
And he'll go I got limo outside
They're waiting to take us three to a strip club
And Scottsdale and you know and you three look at each other and you're like, I don't think that's the plan
He would do creepy things like that
Then you get on stage and he would make you go out there with you
And he got like a VIP booth and he would start snort and blow
And I'd tell him not to do blow in front of rogue and it was horrible. Right. I remember one night
I he wouldn't pay me because I didn't tell him where they were all the guys. Well
I didn't know where they were. Mike Young was fucking
Mike Young we get booked and light on
And tell him yeah, I'm gonna bring down Leonardo DiCaprio and the guys from
entourage
And then he would disappear
So he thought Mike Young was at the entourage guys and he wasn't showing up
He must have called Mike Young 80 times
And the line of the year was like if you don't call me right back, you'll never be on letterman
You're a club owner and to be Arizona
But that's how powerful he thought he was
And those guys like he wouldn't let you drink on stage. Right. Right. He didn't want women in the green room
You know, he didn't want
thousands of things
that any other improv owner
You know many times people quit that club George Lopez quit on a Friday night
What hit a week in the gigs book and sold out weekend
Went up there on a Friday night
The guy was a known coke fiend god rest his soul
You know, I read this joint love peasant up there
He got on stage and Dan was breaking his balls
and finally
In front of the owner and for everybody he went up there
And he goes, how you guys doing? This is a great club. I loved you
The general manager owner here Dan Mer
He goes, this is my impersonation name
And he got on his hands and knees and opened up a
Aspen bottle
and put it on the thing and then
Made believe he was doing a line of coke and his nose got all white
And Dan Mer was in the back of his wake flew off
He only had like eight hands left and four shot out of his cranium. Oh my god
And fucking he he had a guy that was arguing with George and George. He goes, bitch. I quit
And he quit on a Friday night. I didn't know there was an option. I love him. He had wars with everybody
Jesus, he he threatened me and rogan one night for what the show was on thursday
We were taking the winds and I flight in
The winds and I flight was delayed and they pushed us on a different flight
He started calling us to see where we were going
Like where you guys had him when you get here? Who knows? We're going to the hotel check in
That's it. I don't fucking know
Well, I've got reservations before
And he don't wake up. What?
You know, maybe we don't want to and I know rogan didn't want to go to get him
And I would just laugh
But I remember that I must have shut off my phone when I got the tempi I put it on
And I had 20 messages from
You better call me back right now. If not, it's contempt of contract
The show's not till thursday at eight
We're coming in the night earlier
Just to fucking come in out of you know, he went off
Jesus and the last thing I I played the messages for joe. Are you gonna hear this fucking lunatic?
And joe's like i'm straightening him out tonight
And we got to the hotel there. He is with some driver
I made plans and cost of it
The Fuji the best steak in town and joe's like knock it off
We're not going there when I think I don't want to hang out with you. You're fucking creepy
Joe just went off on him and that was it
He never bothered us again. Hello and goodbye. All right
He banned me because they fucked the chick upstairs and he thought it was me
What happened was a chick went into the green room. She got hammered and she passed out and we left
And one of the 18 year old waiters came up and started fucking
He had never got he was a virginity or something like that
So he kept booking joe, but he wouldn't let joe bring me
What because he says it was me that brought the chicken to the green room
Where reality she was there to see the star from fear factor
you know i'm saying
And joe left it at like the chick was annoying hot
Most hot chicks aren't she fell down and fucking passed out
Jesus
And and then now he's gone and you can go to you do the intangible
Now he's dead
Okay, now this is that don't feel so good myself
All that drama was because of nothing, but my point being it's like when the catcher rising stars were out here
You had to call that guy
send him a tape
send them avails
Get a reference
It was a year process right kevin carney
That was his name kevin carney
He booked you in princeton
vegas at the Excalibur with the kids with the swords
And he booked you at rino
And all that shit and one day i got a call from jimmy shuber
And he goes what are you doing tomorrow? I go not and he goes you're featuring for me arena
I catch a rising star
So for two years this guy drove me crazy
And all of a sudden a headliner calls you and gets you in
I was never mad at kevin carney after that. We became dear friends that he booked me
But the point being is that comedy is very weird like that
Sometimes you can't get in the guy don't take your calls all of a sudden bill burr calls me says i'm bringing him with me
And that's the end of the discussion. There's no tape
Yeah, there's no fucking critique. There's no nothing. Have you ever noticed that? Oh, yeah
Like if you go into a club, you got to send them the tape if i bring you with me
You don't say boo you go up there like you're not second i'm fine
He won't say boo because you got to say something to me and i'll tell him to fuck off
Yeah, i mean that's happened a lot when i was with schneider like
Who's this guy? Oh, i'm the guy whose email she didn't return for you know two years
Oh, you're with rob. Uh, you want to headline an off night? I'm like
Oh, yeah, I do but it's crazy
How would I get it? It elevates you and you get it and you have to look
I'm still there's some people that i'm in shock that they talked to me
But there's some people who did pull for me 20 years ago that
Jeff wilson was a runs live nation
I became friends with 20 years ago
Do they have a call them bothering?
What live nation room could i fill?
of a kitty pond
You know saying what live nation room can i fill?
And for years i heard people going i heard jeff will say nice things about you and i would sit there and go he never books me
That's how life is sometimes
And now jeff wilson my number one to go guy
Number one i love him with all my heart
Because that's how it is sometimes
We cannot get angry at anybody
There's people that are genuinely out there waiting for something for you
And they're looking out for you and here you are going fucking deez told me
He was going to take me on the caribbean cruise with him and now i haven't heard from him
Well, maybe deez is working on something else
And deez is going to call you and go hey
What are you doing tomorrow?
Well, i'm taking my girlfriend for dinner
One of the first class flight to hawaii and then we're going to japan
We're getting some sushi and then we're rolling down to the philippines, but but but but what?
But what start packing?
Tell the chinese to give me back that passport
Tell bel-air you're leaving the property to get the fucking arm machine gun jews toting around that no fucking crap my god
Right of wrong. That's what this life is. Oh, yeah, that's what this life is guys. That's why i always tell people keep loose
Stay loose and this is not leave. What are you doing august 8th? I have no fucking idea
Are you booking me for a gig? No, i'm coming to town. Call me on the 7th
I'll let you know if i'm here right because you don't know what's gonna happen the rolling stones my bumping team when you're eating hotdog
And go you're a comedian. I thought I saw you on youtube. Yeah, that was me
Come on the road with us and do 10
That's how quick this could change. Oh, absolutely. I still remember freddy soto being at the comic store
What's his name came in song took him on the road. They did 2000 fucking dates
Uh, uh, what's the blue? Yeah
Baby, he was married to jennifer lopez
John uh
John uh, she just left him. Yeah, John something. No, I know you got him. Hold on. You just left him for the bug guys
Good lucky guy, but kind of like uh
Uh, it's mark anthony. Yeah, there you go mark anthony walking to the comic store on sunday night
Open mic. So freddy on stage started talking to him when that song became a hit. Who do you think was the open?
Freddy that's wild. Yeah doing 40 minutes in front of in front of 2000 20 000 people that want to hear music
You want to talk about your life flashing in front of you?
You're up there at the 10th minute. They're booing you
The freddy used to tell me it was the roughest time of his life, but the paycheck
Oh, yeah, it was so good to travel the food
Catering, you know room service and marked in care mark, which is like I like him. Yeah marked one of the comedy guy
Mark liked him. He thought he was funny. Well, I still remember being at the improv with joe
And chris mcguire getting fucking lit
On cocktails. I'm doing metal in the new powder in the bathroom and I turned around there's freddy soda
He's like, what are you guys doing? You want to go to mark anthony's party on this is when
South beach was very hot and exclusive
He goes, I'll get it mark to send the car for us right now
And we looked at each other like I don't think so. We were I was too fucked up. I couldn't show
So we just go freddy fuck it just stay with us
We kept freddy out all through fucking coconut grove to bus six in the morning. What are you nuts or what?
Those are the good old days. Oh, yeah, he's I gotta leave. I gotta catch another flight to fucking they were leaving for like peru
It was crazy. It's crazy the opportunities you have at the store
You know, oh, it's like you never know who's in the crowd watching now the improv gives you spots a little more lately
Uh, but you know, I'm dear friends of the page and I'm just shy and asking for things
She's a sweetheart. If you just call her for spots, but I can't do that. I'm like, I'm so fucking shy
This is a business. Oh, I know and this is a business and
You're always a piece of a puzzle
You're always putting together a puzzle for somebody
That's why I always feel when I got mad at Lee. I got very mad at Lee a couple weeks ago because
They were looking for a fat guy to dance on that show
And Lee goes, well, I didn't want to expose myself for $300. I go
It's not 300 hours. It's getting your foot in the door. Sure. Well, it's it may be an under five on paper
Which means under five lines and trust me. There's companies that come back
Hey fat man dance. You want me to dance? I'll dance. That's 350
But what if I say to you where you from?
Boston, do you know how to dance? Yeah, what type of dancers do you do?
That turns into 1100
But you're not gonna know till you get there because they want to read what type of personality you have right
So
What we talking about the store opportunity store
But you're right though. No, I know I'm right because I went through it
I don't know how many times I showed up to something
And they told me it was gonna be one thing and don't get me wrong
I got lied to
The check took eight weeks
They told me 250. I only got 175
Now I had to call the guy for the 75 hours and I had to wait for the next pay period for him to cut the check
You know when you're broke
75 hours
There's a lot of fucking money. Fuck. Yeah, you follow me. But then
somewhere along the line
You going for a co-star
They don't that's why I always
Like when they say co-star possible recovery that means we don't know what we're looking for
That's what they're telling me
And so basically what I'm hearing is at the beginning you kind of have to do everything you do
You do whatever the fuck they call you to do bro. I I did a pilot
You want me to be embarrassed? I did a pilot for the guys from sinfone when sinfone cancelled they try to do another pilot like a
like a
Comedy pop-up pilot right like instead of
America's funniest videos videos
It was funny and die right with a host
One of the pilot episode it was me getting hit in the face with a fucking pie and a diaper
When I got there, I knew I was gonna get hit in the face with a pie, but I don't know I was gonna get humiliated
Right and I took the humiliation
I didn't like how the producers acted
Obviously took 30 fucking days to pay me
You know
This is part of it
But this all that 250 or that 300 all goes into a funnel
Then you get two checks at the store for 15 a week. That's 30 five times four. That's a small 120 right? No
That's a small 160. No, that's a small 120
Four times 30 is a small 120, right, you know it all go when you're first
Doing all these things and people always laugh at you. Are you making any money?
And you say them is it all about money right now? I'm punching it. Yeah, absolutely. I'm punching it
You have an agent now. I have a voiceover agent. Uh, you have a very unique voice
I'm the only white guy right now in an all-black cartoon. So but I got it at the comedy store
You know one night in the crowd skinny black kids watching me had no idea who he was
I'm making fun of him. Hey, it's roger from what's happening and you know stupid stuff like that
and it was tyler the creator
and uh, he's
Three seasons in on the cartoon. So it's like
You know amazing like he goes back to what you were saying, you know the stores so much opportunity there
This was on like a Tuesday night
During roast battle. I I thought he was just some black dude
Because I'm a metalhead. So I don't know a lot about rappers and stuff and you know, he he's amazing to me. So
You know, it's a nice I always tell people my secret
I'm following the scale of 10 15
I get there at 9 15
I say hello the waitress is itchy richie
The mexicans making the potato chips the best potato chips in the town
uh
Couple comics come in I say hello
I take my two waters and I go into the original room when I sit in the back
And 10 out of 10 times it's bobby lee
I look at bobby lee and I absorb his material for three minutes
And then I see bobby lee from when I first met him
Well, when bobby would drive from the san diego
I strum him meet his dad
And his uncle and no at his brother
You just had to be 20 years ago
I remember going down there and doing the hoy and he was a star on the hoy
him shea matash
Couple guys were stars on the hoy
I strummed the bobby, you know being a doorman. I think
Opening up for freddy. You know
So when you see this
You're like jesus christ. Not only did I grow
But these people around me grew sir
What did they do different than the other guys they stayed the other guys disappeared
They either lost in mind. They paid they bought into the hide
There's 10 guys up there. I was groomed with
From joe rogan to bobby to
You know, it's it's my bobby to still see these guys
And when you see them do well your heart
Ben giaffalo. Oh, yeah
I saw that kid mumbling stumbling on stage years ago
He goes up before me now on saturday nights at 9 15. I gotta think twice before I go up there
I gotta think twice like i'm like this guy is dangerous more dangerous than ron white
Little josh
Yeah, josh marten. A couple weeks ago. I saw him have the saturday year in the original
So it lets me know
That that's the right place. Oh for sure. It's the rights. It's like joining a jujitsu school martial arts school
You're gonna get bombarded the first year at the comic store
The original room is one of the toughest rooms to get. Oh, what time do you usually go up?
Uh, now that the cartoon's doing so well, uh, and I
I didn't care when I went on. I was so happy to be in there. I didn't care if I went on at 130
But now around midnight
So I love it. Who who took the brody spot over?
Holtzman, I guess is up there every night now. Uh, he does the main room. He closes out the main room Friday and saturdays
And uh, sometimes what about during the week? Who's doing the midnight spot? Um
Let me see. Well barris, of course, uh closes it out every night, but uh
You know, I guess it's the newer past people have to go on later on in the or
So Felicia goes up a couple times a week, right? I think yeah, she's 30 the poor thing
But that's about that 130 spot builds a long character. Oh, it can be pretty brutal
Every level of that store builds a different muscle in you
And again, it's like any other job you get
When the boy says to you go around the building clean and make sure that those certain things aren't there
And then one day you're stepping something and it's because that thing explodes and sure
So you see the levels of everything and that's what the store does for you
It really is a four to six year college program. Oh, and maybe even longer at the six year
At the 60 year
You've gotten the rhythm of both rooms you're killing in the original room
And you start getting stuck
It's a tough time after six or seven years
You start to battle yourself
You know when you first get there you look at the walls and you go
Why is that a murphy not down here every night? Why isn't damon wanes not down here every night?
Why isn't this broad and then one day you go all I get it
This is another process the process is to get out of here
Jay Leno said it best
The process is to get out of the store
Always go to the store, but to get out of there to something bigger or better
And that's what any murphy went on to do prior
They always kept the comedy store at their home at this point my life at 56
I couldn't imagine going anywhere else to do comedy anymore. What's the best?
It's the best for a guy like me right to keep my savagery strong
Especially in the original room. I gotta raise my voice
When I get off stage in the original room
30% just drops out of me
I'm wiped out. That's it. The week is over
The week is over turn out the lights the party's over
And I love that and I but I still remember to go up there
And knowing I was going up there to bomb following dama rara
You know how many times you know how many years I went down there knowing I was gonna go down there to bomb
Oh, yeah, I mean it's I feel the same way. You know saturday night your spots at
12 30
But at around nine you start calling up just to get the rhythm of the room
You're watching the u of c at your friend's house
It ends at 10 10 30. So you're still gonna make your spot at the store
In fact, you'll be early. I'll buy some powder from lee
I'll get my pills ready. I'll get a drink of me and shit
Maybe I'll get a waitress to you know, see if she give her a little blast of coke
To get a follow me around. Can I get more after the spot?
Check out we'll get out of here. Oh, I had a thousand methods up there
And what are we talking about?
Just about how you say
Going you reach up like a crescendo
You you do reach a level there and you never get comfortable. You get frustrated. Oh, yeah, I got very frustrated
By 2004 I was very frustrated
In my personal career because I was killing at the store, but nothing was happening
It's tough do you feel like oh, that's how I feel right now. I mean now some things are happening, uh, but uh
You know, it's you always want more I think you do any road work at all
Well, now I can because I have credits but before no one would
Feature or headline me because it's like well, too. We just can't bring you up as hey, he's a funny guy
But now, you know with the cartoon and you know, I'm dying up here and
You know roast battle. I'm pretty popular on that show. Uh
So yeah, I'd love doing the road, you know, because I just I love comedy
I'm not in this business to be famous or to make money
You know, I realize it's a side effect
Of the business, but I just love performing. I get a sexual high from it
I've seen the people who have gotten into it for money
They give up first
It's the people who fall in love with it and go, you know what?
This is what I want to do
Yeah, I mean a few and it's gonna take nine years or it could take nine months
But I'm gonna die trying. I can't imagine being
54
Medium situation in your life
You're not starving
You're paying your bills. You put a little money away. You have credit card debt like the rest of America
And you look at your life you think, you know, I did okay, but I really wanted to be a guitar player
I wish I would have tried one time, you know
I I know I'm never gonna have that fear
Like yeah, I could have been an attorney right up the valley college tomorrow and
Go on the road 10 weeks see you and do the podcast and go to school law school, you know
Yeah, for me, I think it's too late. I'm 56
I'm good. There's nothing I want to do nothing. I want to try. I don't want to go over the seas
I don't want to see china. I don't want to know nothing
Shit's gonna get ugly pretty soon over there
real fast real fast
Uh, you feel you're happy. Is this what you want to do?
Oh, absolutely. I you're my age. Well, you're 50 now when you're 57
Are you gonna look at the mirror one day and say, you know what?
It really doesn't matter what ended up happening
I still did what my dream was since the fourth grade. Absolutely. I mean the only thing I regret is not starting earlier because I started at 30
So I think I started at 18. I started at like fucking 29 28
Well, you know, that's the only thing where I'm like, yeah, you know, I wish I maybe would start it
But what would you have to talk about at 21? Not much, but uh, I don't know. I just uh
You know 27 you've had hard you had you've had heartbreak
An uncle has died a parent has died. You've lost a cat your girlfriend cheated on you with the neighbor
Some other girl gave you gonorrhea. You had like experience at 27. You know what I'm saying? You have
$60,000 in debt and student loans. You're looking at life a little different than 21
I like people who have gone on stage while they were in college. I have nothing against that
I really don't I I have more power to them. They got their feet went earlier
But I think they really found their voice
Once you got to pay your own bills
Is when you start finding your real voice and I may be wrong. Oh, no, I don't know
But I just wish maybe maybe just a little earlier. No, I'm perfect when I did it when I did it
I'm perfect. I have no fucking regrets. I started at 28. I got serious about that 30 30
I'm like, okay. If this is what we're gonna do
We got to pull up our fucking sleep. I get it. I get the work pattern
This shit I've been doing for the last three years
Are getting on stage every two weeks and telling people I'm a comic that that's not gonna work
Right, you got to do this 18 times a night and
You know put your fucking glasses on and go deep. Oh, yeah, you know the deeper the better
I mean, I've always had the work ethic, but uh,
I guess now it's trying to navigate the other side of the business, you know, the networking the
I like to call it palming, you know, hey, how are you brother? The networking is done on stage
As a comic if I'm an agent and you come up to me and said eroskake or comedian and I go joe d and ca
How's it going? Good. Try to put my career together. Are you on the one up tonight? No
Then why the fuck are you here?
Right, that's always been my opinion. Don't go no way. You don't belong
But if I go down to see chrystalia
And I walk in the room I get settled
I sit I catch my hair and I look up when I see eroskake. Oh
And I approach him
You see what I'm talking about. Oh, I got it. Yeah, no, it's um
It's interesting for me to listen you guys talk about this stuff because for now
Like I take it seriously, but I don't I don't even think I'm really in the business of stand-up. It's still just
It's more than a hobby, but I'm I'm
For me getting paid is a bonus
So it's good. It's interesting to hear you guys talking about
When I like when you act when you basically go pro at it and how you have to
Figure out how to get paid how to get how it turns into more than just something you enjoy doing
I'm just uncomfortable promoting myself like even this weekend the clusterfest. I had a icm agent
Asked me about the cartoon. I'm like I was almost embarrassed like oh, it's
It's going okay, you know, it's going good, you know, I'm not I just I wish I could talk myself up a little more because I think
to get
To that next next level of you and rogan and delia you've got to self promote more
Yeah, I have a problem with that too
And I think a lot of I hear a lot of people say they have problems with it
But um, and you don't want to be the guy who who over does it
But I think I think you don't want to wish you had done it or or you you can't get no one's gonna do it for you
There's too many people here. Yeah, I mean you have to do it yourself because you know
There's 10 other people who will do it for themselves
Look at it. Look at it as letting the guy know what you're doing
And letting that person know what you're looking to do right without
Don't come up to me and say hi heros cake. Oh, yeah, you look very funny tonight. I know
Anything else going on in your life? Yeah. Well, my film just took second place in the chicago film festival
That's when I say good night
You know, so I rather you say to me
Yeah, I'm working on a one-man show about my wife
She got hit by a motorcycle
In the head when she was walking
You know, I'd rather you tell me about your future
Right and let me know what you're doing on a little basis not you're throwing it at me
Right, right. You know, I've been fortunate enough lately
I don't book a lot of stuff, but I booked this cartoon and to be honest here. It's black
So i'm very lucky there. They gave me the second season. You're not boasting
You're letting me know number one. You're an earner
Yeah, I don't listen
I don't give a fuck if you got the voice of sinatra
And you could bend over at the same time put roman candle up your ass home
Oh flowers out
That's quite a show
That would be a good show
If you can't sell tickets
I really don't have any interest in you. I learned a long time ago
I get calls. I tell we
Every three days from an old acquaintance from town
That's found out the podcast is doing well. I'm getting more spots or whatever
And they'll try to sell me on a project they have
And that was me 15 years ago
People would come to me and say I could pitch
And I would come up with something and then we pitched and the people say thank you for coming here
Because the guy I was with was a fucking asshole and the whole thing sucked, but that's not it
Even if I walked in there what I love lucy. I was a nobody
And people don't want to do business at nobody's. I don't I don't give a fuck if you have the next american idol
I don't give a fuck if you have the next american family. It's very weird how this town works
If you have a little bit of heat
In the old days they threw you 150 thousand to hold you for a year to see what you were going to do with that move
Can you put a rider together? Can you put a pitch together?
What shows do you have in mind? What's episode seven going to be about? What's episode nine going to be about?
Do you really think you could do that a year?
Not really
You come up with a half cocktail idea and then when the idea doesn't work. I guess who's fault it is
So now when cbs goes we're looking for a new guy lee comes in and says oh my god
I see the cutest white guy his name is ralskake with their name was shown in bc. Yeah next
You
This is a very weird town. They want to do business with you on the way up
They don't want to do business with you on the way down
I remember booking the longest yard and trying to get a radio show
Guy's name was goomba johnny back in new jersey
Big fucking radio show he did a year of time
Because he was shaking down the girls at goddys place
I remember calling them as a man and then pick up I met him in a show
He got into comedy not the best comedian
But because the radio show he was selling 300 tickets a fucking show
And he would do these shows and he invited me to do a show and he gave me his number
And I go hey, I'm living in this movie. I like to come on and promote it
And I called him he was a jersey guy so I thought we had a common bond
And when I call and I never got mad at him. It just made me understand where I stood
When I called him he goes, yeah, listen
Uh, I talked to the producers and it's not a good idea
The bottom line is one on business and making stars
You have to be a star to come on the radio show and he really had he had banjo
We called in and people like that. I didn't hang up on him. I understood what that meant
And it was the truth. I don't give a fuck if you're gonna move it out of the silo
There's 80 other people in that movie
All when you're out of the silo right, you know
Then it hurt my feelings for three seconds
Then you understand the business side of it. Sure because no man in this comedy shit as we learned
Now you're at the comedy store
Oh, I'm psyched, you know
It doesn't never gets old seeing my now we got to take it to the next level. Listen. I'm trying so and how many years have you been doing comedy?
I'll say 20 20 and now you're gonna take it to the next level
And let me tell you something you can't you know, I know because I took it to the next level at the 16th year
right
18th year maybe the 20th year
19th year was where you figure it out
And now people call me can you give me you want to come in with an idea?
20 years ago, you weren't calling me. I was the same comedy right
It's doing the same raunchy jokes the same raunchy fucking material
You know, I've you know many times I've seen Lee come in
With no management no agency
And do a set in two days later
See you come in with two Jews and a black guy. Everybody's got a suit on one black guy's got a yarmulke on
Jews don't have a yarmulke, but the black guy's got a yarmulke on
And you're doing exactly the same jokes as Lee pretty much in the same vein
And cbs is coming to see you you're in town for a meeting with robin williams
state
You know, I've seen it a thousand times
We never know what's gonna work. It's not up to us
The only thing we could control is our growth
Our writing
And never to stop doing what we believe in absolutely and what we think we could aspire to be
I don't want to know what you really want to be. I want you to keep that to yourself
And every day, you know, you go you see somebody you go wow some day. I'm gonna be as good as sebastian
Huh, I go down there. They go. How come I couldn't be delir?
You know, many times I watch John millenia jerk off all alone myself and throw it in my face
So why couldn't I be John millenia?
You got to figure out who
skate
Yeah, I mean lisa yad has to figure out who lisa yad is
But quickly you figure that on stage not a portrait to the audience
The quick of this party starts
But I see a lot and you're a good warm guy and
Never a negative energy out of you
Uh, how was this festival this weekend? It's fun. I did a roast battle
Uh, it was a tough battle just because I had to battle a transgender comic in san francisco
This is definitely an away game
But I got to do todd barry's crowd work show which was super fun
You got a website and stuff like that. No, just twitter and instagram url skakel
And when does your pub casket released?
Usually every tuesday. It's just called inappropriate url
And my last name which is kind of weird is just spelled s k a k e l
I got a hard time saying this like a fucking tongue twister
Yeah, I mean it's I get skankle skunkle skakel
And every time I'm saying it I think I'm saying it wrong. That's what it sounds like skanky. Yeah, I mean it's like skanky's cousin skakel
Yeah, it's when you go to the hospital and your leg has finally fallen off
And they're like do I have uh, whatever? No, you got kankl. Yeah, whatever. Oh skakel. You have a kankl
I mean a skakel
So how was your experience at whatever fest? Oh skankfest new york was awesome. New york was uh
My first time being there and doing comedy and it uh
It was just amazing. It was like I did 11 spots in four days
Not all of them went great
I'm kind of bummed about that
But I got to do show I got to do a whole bunch of clubs and rooms and thank you to felipe and louis j Gomez and everybody
I
it uh
It was kind of a glimpse ahead to see like what what this could be if I keep going
And it showed me how much I love new york and
And I got to like like quentin the host at danger field was great to me. Everyone was great. Like it's um
Sometimes you hear about some negative stuff about comedians and comedy
This was uh an overall an amazing weekend
I got what you guys are talking about who will see what happens
But I got I got off stage at a small club the broadway comedy club and this guy was like, oh, i'm an agent
Here's my card. Are you are you sag and i'm not anything so that that was amazing? I had
one of the best sets of my
Year and a half the midnight show at skankfest so
I uh, I couldn't be happier
That's great. Congratulations. There's a lot of fun
You know, but i'm like the old guy in comedy and i'm seeing all this
Like i'm sitting down looking at all you guys
Going oh that guy just got on the rotation belt
All this is is a rotation belt. You're like a keyboard arm and cookie
They put you on the belt and you let piece of dough with three m&m's and a piece of arm and
And then depending on how slow you go through the oven
That no offense. That's how
That's how quick. How dare you that's how quick you fucking stay
But before you hit that
If you say i'm gonna jump off the fucking belt
Do you know i'm saying oh, absolutely mean at the time you start getting them
Getting at the rotation at the improv getting rotation at the laugh factory
Now you're placed on a rotation belt
And think of the factory being three fucking miles away
And it's a fucking another year process in that cave of developing and forming
And now let's see how fast convey about it's all up to you and it's this is such a great
Life that we live. I love it because no matter what art what career you pick
You pick it you put your head down
You're gonna eat shit no matter what you do
When you're a doctor, what do you think you walk in there and they give you like it's tv
Two guys put the gloves on you
And they give you a scissor and you're in there giving orders. No you're cleaning our guts
You're washing people's nutsack
You're jerking people off so they can
Don't have a heart attack. What hospital is this? I don't know if that's a medical procedure
These guys don't know about it. We gotta go to mix it up
Huh, that sounds like that sounds like a porno i've seen before
But anyways cake. I'm happy. I wanted you're always on the podcast to come in and talk about yourself
And then we went off on some tangents and i'm sorry next time we'll get you
Oh, we could talk about miami vice the whole because that's so many like
Miami vice was a masterpiece
Well, the first three seasons were actually kind of dark like it gets
Most of the publicity is for the music and the clothes and like every episode looked like a music video
But if you break down the characters, you know crocket was a you know a dark soul, you know
Tubbs was always looking for calderone and revenge and swightech would had a gambling problem and
You know, so it wasn't just a fluff show
the chick jena
Fell from the father from taken
Yeah, he brought the weapons from the ira and they didn't believe it. That was a very good episode
ted newton
Was a very good episode when he would lure drug dealers. He would send the chick out to the beach
And she would fall in love with you and then she'd make him
She'd come back with a black eye ted newton would fucking walk around with no shirt on
And he would say so tell me about the guy and she would say he's cute
I think he's got the money
And then he goes you ready to work and when he would open up with him smacking her in the face
And then she would run to earl's cake on go
Joey beat me. We gotta get away from him
But i'm scared
I know he's got a gun and eight kilos of coke
And I know he needs to sell it and she would know that earl's cake was in the business
So she would set you up. You met him out in the desert at construction site
He'd get out of the car and blast you
And then bury you on the dirt and he had tons of bodies out there. That was a scam
He would take the money from you go to his car
Shoot you pull away and then bury you when it was a tremendous episode another great episode frank zappa
Yeah on the boat. I don't know who he was working for
You know, that's how they by tuesday. They were a great marketing machine
Because by tuesday, they'd show you who's gonna be on on friday
Your whole week was planned around that friday night. I didn't leave the house till I still remember the
It's the pilot
Two hours and then the first episode opens up with a columbian guy
Getting a drink of water. You see the water pouring into the glass
And all of a sudden before he goes to drink it a guy smacks the glass out of his hand
It says tell me who the fuck he is the guy's like, I don't know
They call the Argentina and he's got a hit list. All right. And all of a sudden you see crock and tubs in that
boat
Just going out for the Bahamas
That's how the first episode is
And they go down there and he falls in love with calderon's daughter
Yeah, and he knocks her up and they shoot calderon
Episode one two or three
No, it had to be like episode four or five. He was a little yeah, they shoot calderon. They get calderon. They come back
And then season three
That's my favorite season is
When crocket and
Tubs go to a diner
And crocket has the tubs has to make a call
And a carpool. Yes, they put two guns to his head. They put him in a van
They take him away and he walks into a house. It's gorgeous
It's a chick that comes out
It's a chick. He had the affair with calderon's daughter
And no, she's got a kid, but she's got a brother who's played by
John Leguizamo 1987
It's 2019
John Leguizamo
1987
Played calderon's son tremendous episode. Oh, there's so many good ones tremendous episode
And next thing, you know
calderon takes the kid
And ties the sister up in the Cadillac
Is this on netflix i haven't seen it
This is on cbs until well, you know now it's on i just bought all five seasons. I think it's on amazon prime
Or lulu lulu or amazon prime put him and they put the the baby in the car with the sister and are surrounded by dynamite
And when they attack they blow up their baby
And the fucking thing
But before that whole scene goes down
Who was the guy that popped into the scene? He was a commissioner
Leah Yacocca
This is how strong this show is the president of fucking chrysler
Is on this episode and people went nuts
He played like this fucking crazy guy
I don't have to check it out like yeah going there and bomb him. It's a free zone. I don't care what you do
So when they bomb him they bomb him
They think calderon's dead. They go through the rubbish
They find paperwork
They do this whole thing
They show tubs depressed
And the episode ends with them being in a funeral parlor
They're outside and they're burying the sister and the baby
Everybody's there and a flower truck pulls up
Late and puts a stand up
And when tubs takes the fucking thing off it he opens it up and it's her hearing
And it says i'll be back
That's how the season. I mean this was they were fucking with the insides. It's a dark a dark show episode
Tony almano
That was the first Tony arcaro
Tony arcaro
Was the guy that's still around
That they buried him in the wall. Yeah
They buried him in the wall
Bruce mcgill and the cop had a nervous breakdown
And he kept saying that he knew what Tony arcaro was and they were like he was dead
And finally he took him to the thing
Yeah, but the top and the dire straits song. Yes the dire
Whatever the name of that. Oh, that's a great song. Yeah, it's very haunting
But uh and the guy who was his partner
Right, it was david strathorn. Yes, he's in the new godzilla movie. I
We can surprise don't you could go for but i'm talking about there was a guy's name was tony amato
Tony amato was played by bruce willis
He played an episode as a guns dealer that beat his wife
Tubbs got involved uh crocke got involved with the wife
And at the end of his bodyguard
Was another guy from the comedy store. He's banned from the comedy store. His name is viny kerlo
Oh, wow, he punched dice in the face. They called mitzi a cunt
That'll do it the good old something to dice. He either smacked dice
He did but viny kerlo was almost a world champion. He could have fought fucking the guy from boston
That movie no
Whatever his name is the top the guy from boston
From brockton mass
All right, right the eighties the toughest guy not marvin hag
Yes, he could have fought him. He was up next to fight him. I mean, I was a text cob guy myself. Yeah, he played
I think text cob was on miami vice too. Yes
He was sold with fucking uh
Went when they killed swight tech
Yeah, but my favorite ever from miami vice was a guy by the name of charlie barnett
I was just I on my parents graves
I was just gonna say my favorite episodes are the ones with charlie barnett and martin ferrero
Izzy and the nougman
Let the nougi boogie. Let the nougi boogie. Well, mr. Calder. No
Maybe you're not familiar. Mr. Calder own style. Maybe you're not familiar. Mr. Nougman style
Mr. Nougman was dave chappelle's mentor. Yeah
He opened up dave would open up for him in washington square park
He auditioned for cyanide live. He got it, but there was a problem. He couldn't read. Yeah
So they gave the role to eddie murphy instead. So eddie murphy was born from charlie barnett's
Not being able to read but everybody respected
When charlie barnett was on miami vice, they would basically call and go come down
And just do your own lines. Oh him and izzy had such great chemistry him and izzy were tremendous
They had just watched the one before chan came on
About the pirates. Oh, that was another the college fun kids that became pirates
And izzy and the nougman's that ever since it was coming up. He's yelling at the white girl
You got to go underneath and all this stuff and he died of hiv
but
He was great dc cab. Yeah with the barbarian brother. Yeah, barbarian brothers david and peter paul
36 eggs a day they we don't do steroids
We just keep 36 eggs a day. Jesus. I worked out once next to them a cold shim in venus. No, you did. Yeah
I mean, I where are they today?
Oh, I don't think they know where they are. Uh, I would guess out here eating eggs
Uh, yeah, probably cold shim and venus. They were throwing weights at each other
And I mean like 40 pound dumbbells like it was a baseball. I was like, wow, it's like roid rage
Uh, so
You know, but yeah dc cap bill mar
Gary bucey adam ballwin, uh, who's like tea. Yeah, uh, we're seeing that dc cap. Yeah
Look it up. Mr. T
Max the guy from barney miller, um bald guy max bear. I think, uh
Uh, great cast
I saw bill mar once at the uh store and you know, i'm sure he's used to people. Hey, I love you unpolitically
Incorrect, and I just looked at him like dc cap, bro, and he looked at me like don't bring that up
It's a great moment
Mr. T is dc cap. He's on the he's on the cover. Oh, wow. I mean, it's been a hot minute since I've seen it, but
you know
I'm much more familiar with miami vice
You know, I like that you're a student of the game. I like that you're really a student of the game and uh
Well, I mean the old time shows I have some meetings the next couple weeks and they're very loose meetings
I'm going into vp's or whatever talking to them
And it's very loose meetings until I was doing something. What do you tell these people?
What do you tell people what's wrong with television? You know
And my big thing is to let them know that when I came to this country
TV was my everything. So everything from television emotions how to act how to speak different things
And the shows had more heart room 222 and oh my god squad and
Mission impossible was just a brilliant show that
Why they can't remake it perfectly?
baffles me
I would I wanted to pitch that show the last four years
And the first guy I would take
Is jackson sons of anarchy. Oh charlie hunnam. He's an english guy with an english accent white people love all that shit
He's the lead he's hot
Give him a female lead and a cast of three that nobody's ever seen before so you keep them at scale
Give charlie hunnam charlie hunnam one seven fifteen episode
And he'll get it he got it on fx. He'll get it on cbs
So you got to pay his fucking toll. He's with caa
so
That was the mission impossible and do it the same way
it's 2019 obviously you can't get a tape recorder
And you can't get a fucking phone, but you can sit down. There's a cell phone there
You open it up and you press the button. It's lisa yak on mr. Diaz. Good morning
It's tuesday april 26
Today, we're looking at a guy named herald skakel international gun smuggler. We want you to go to his building
Get us to proof and don't get any agents killed just say for self-destruct in 30 seconds
Then they will put the phone down and also the smoke starts coming out of it. Also you hear
Your head would go fucking crazy
They've never done that but even if they do get it they would miss something
They would try to add comedy to it or add a love story to it
Go with the original recipe, but number one don't lose the patois of the show
Well, I think it's like uh, like i'm a huge bad newsbearers. Right the first one. I need the seven
The golden era tv was those 70s. Oh 100. So ones that really broke through was the jefferson's
The good times to sample the sons you need to go back to that blueprint
What television is never going to be able to compete
With streaming, but I don't think you can because like if you like the bad newsbearers to me is a perfect example
The original one none of those kids were actors. They were kids
And in the remake with billy bob thorton, they were clearly kids. All right
We need a good-looking kid to play tan or boil and you know
We need the fat catcher but that fat catcher in the original one
You can tell he's just a fat kid with no acting ability. It was great making him a transgender kid. Oh watch out
How funny would that be? That's 2019
Now he's not a fat kid. He's a black kid
That wants to that identifies as a female. He wants his rights
I mean the coach has to look at you and go
But your name is charlie
Yeah, but my name is really iran
I mean that's definitely
It's coming it's a character. I didn't see maybe it could work
Listen, man, they just got to do something with tv because it's not competing with what the fuck is going on
Well, I just don't stream it. Everybody has a different show. They're watching
Congratulations to gabriel glaces. Yes, that flick series
Mr. Iglesias
I haven't watched it yet. I got a flight this week and that's all I'll let it go or else kakal. Thank you very much for coming on
Don't forget you any dates coming up anywhere else kakal. Uh, just a cartoon on adult swim right now
What's under the cartoon? It's called the jellies by tyler the creator and uh,
But I just I mean this from the bottom of my heart and then some of your fans may think of this as ass kissing
I'm a horrible ass kisser, but
If everyone in comedy were like you be a lot easier business to navigate. We're trying brother
We're trying to convert them young so when they get up to that point
They know to get out get off when the light comes on
They know to be respectful
And most of all they're fucking savages because that's what I need you to be
Fuck all that christianity. I need you throw away the cross
I like the bible on fly if you want to be a comic. There's no rules. Bitches. There's no borders
I want to thank girls cake. Well, don't forget
friday and saturday thing saturday is already sold out
Columbus the funny bone. I'm coming in conch suckers. I'm doing Louis Louis tie on saturday morning
I'm gonna get some fucking lunch in town
And that's it and that's that the funny bone go for tickets right now
And then july 5th. We had an extra show at the rec room in huntington
Beach so july 5th
The fourth you sit there. You watch firecrackers. You hang out with chinese people
And then the fifth you come see uncle joey. All right. I love you mother fuckers one more time for earl skakel
One more time for my knees lee syat
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That's how we do it here. It's summertime
You got the car
You got the shiny snakeskin shoes
You got the sunglasses like johnny labamba
But you gotta watch that looks like your grandfather gave it to you
Like christopher walked and took it out of his butt and pulled friction or something like that
Then you wonder why you're a multivon
listen
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state beautiful
Tells me the time it's always not no problems a year
Not a problem. I use it on stage. It's falling off and it's still rocking and rolling. All right
That's why I like venceros
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I don't know nobody who gets that many five star reviews
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Promote code church and I'm wearing one as we speak and I got another one at the house in the box
Ready to throw down when I got a little premiere or something because that's how I roll
I want to thank vencero watches. I want to thank cbdline.com and most importantly
I want to thank upstart. Get your life together. It all starts with upstart
I want to thank my man L. Skakel. I want to thank the flying jew
But I want to thank you motherfuckers. I'll see you this weekend. Columbus, Ohio funny bone
Columbus funny bone.com. There's only tickets for friday available
Do what you gotta do. I love you motherfuckers. See you thursday hit it lisa. Yeah
Oh
Stupid things you said
I
Had a world into our sins
The roll-ups could find us when we
Made our plans on a secret leave
To run away, help her to be the happy birds of paradise
Oh
We're happy together
I thought about you
Stuck home and roll
Me and my hotel room
You in your home
This is the life they say that dreams are made of
Well, don't forget to please you for giving me
I had to have a soup and you did give me
Come and derive the dreams and I'll live with me and dream
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