Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #701 - Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt
Episode Date: July 16, 2019Joey Diaz talks with Lee about his time in Charlotte, how he views his sets at The Comedy Store vs his sets on the road, and why being content can be positive and negative. This podcast is brought t...o you by: ZipRecruiter - post your job to 200+ job sites with a single click for free at www.ziprecruiter.com/church  Onnit.com - Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.
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I want to thank everybody
Came out to the charlotte shows. They were fucking tremendous. Uh
I mean, you know
Just great audiences from thursday to friday to saturday you guys were great
So fucking uh tap yourselves on the back for coming out. We had a great time. I had a great time
I want to thank brad landing and mike for opening up for me with great fucking show
And that's it and that's that, you know, it's funny
We do, you know, two of these a week fucking eight to ten of these a month
And listen, my philosophy is this we reach out
We do the best we can
And
Pieces for what the fuck they made I can't if I come here and I know I did the best I can and whatever
We made you laugh. Maybe we touched on a subject. We did our job. Okay
I don't know how the podcast is going to be and I don't know how you receive them and to be honest
It's something that you never know
You could have uh jesus christ on here and not hear a thing
And then do a podcast about frustration and people hitting you up with fucking emails
So I never know. I never know what to expect
All I know is I come in here and we try to fucking talk things over
And that's it and that's that I wasn't fucking around
Isis in your neighborhoods. I just saw him fucking
Driving around before if you don't have your paperwork correct. Stay in mind your business. Listen. I've been in this country
What 53 years and I'm fucking walking around on eggshells today. So I'm not too happy
No, you don't trade your last name but you gotta look behind you. You don't see me fucking speeding today nothing
I don't jaywalk today for the whole week. I ain't doing nothing. I'm minding my business
I might not even even go over Laurel Canyon. That's how scared I am
One minute. I'm driving next but I'm gonna fucking hut in texas with 50 mexicans with masses on and shit
Smelling like shit in that poor fucking place. Jesus christ. Let them out. Will you?
They just said just let them out give them roller skates make them go downhill
You got a thousand fucking mexicans and mixed with water mollins and cubans
And god knows what else is in that fucking cage
Sweat and all that. They got no t-shirt on
They're fucking feces is around. Jesus christ. Whatever the child should feces shit all over the place
Fucking bird shit. Just get the door point them in the right direction. Give them eight bucks
Tell them if they come back they're gonna end up in sing sing and let them go
That's the worst punishment and fucking keep them in there
Breathing their own fucking mexican shitty peanuts whatever the fuck they got in there. No, telomundo
Can you imagine being in there? No, I blow nope nowhere to sit fucking. It's amazing. What's going on in this country today
But anyway, who gives a fuck about that the real issues are us right now and how we cope with things
It's funny. I was talking about frustration, you know, how we all get frustrated with ourselves and uh
You know, listen, first you start frustrated
Frustration on the system or whatever you're lashing out at your boss or your job
And then you throw the frustration on yourself and it just grows. Okay
So now you get out of the frustration zone you have a long talk with yourself
You write down what you need to do to change and you put your plan into action
Now what's next you got expectations, you know this weekend in charlotte. I learned something
I learned that my last year
I executed how I wanted I stuck to my plan
And now I'm seeing the results
In charlotte, I did five shows
And each show was better than the last one. You and you know, I'm honest with you guys
I tell you when I when I went to New Orleans, I ain't a bag of shit
In columbus, I had good shows but in charlotte
For some reason or another my energy was right on
Uh the execution the material was right on
I even got to improvise the beginning a couple shows because I had some people that I grew up with in the audience
And I wanted to explain to them, you know
How I incorporate all that into my act and whatnot. I talked about the number one bus and
Growing up with the fucking junkies and all this shit. But my point is this, you know
Last year I got the opportunity to shoot a netflix special
And you guys were very happy and you guys were very supportive and I tried to work
As hard as I thought I could work but I did it all wrong
I put different pressures on me from different directions that weren't necessary
But that's not here or there the most important thing was what I did about
You know when I got on that plane
Like I've said a thousand times when you see these guys lose an MMA
And they're sitting on the mat and they're like well, he got knocked out. Why isn't he getting up? He's fine
He's hearing a couple birds and shit and his vision is a little fucked up
He's thinking about the things that he did wrong. That's what that flight was for me
The night after I shot that netflix special and I want to thank netflix for giving me the opportunity everything
I just didn't prepare for it the right way mentally
And I fucked myself. That's it. It happens in life
Even at the 27 year mark economy or the 26 year mark where I was at that time
I fucked myself and
That's why we live and we learn
You're never going to stop learning
If you live every fucking day if you go for it, you're not going to learn but if you live
Even if you fail you're going to learn and then you could either give up
Or build yourself up and attack that thing that you had and that's exactly what I did
I came back
And I knew the plan. I knew that the new plan was going to be
I was going to try to write one line every day one line
And number two, I was going to try and just perform at the comedy store
For some reason I had put a fear in myself about going down to the comedy store and not trying new material
I that was all bullshit. Those were excuses. I just gave myself
At every level in our lives you give our self excuses
It takes things to smack us to get away from those excuses
So the last year and you could ask lee you could ask anybody I pretty much
Stayed at the store. I think I've done
Three maybe four spots outside the store when I'm in LA the store is my fucking grounded when I'm in new york
Yeah, you guys will love to see me at the cellar and I go to the fucking danger fields. Why?
Because it's the bottom of the fucking barrel. It's the original room
It's eight ten people and you got to work from a different perspective
You can't work from the perspective of use of your strength. You have to work from the perspective of your weakness
But anyway, when I came back
I set a plan in motion, you know, I set the same plan up
When I really re-evaluated that
That netflix performance and what happened and how I led up to it
It also made me re-evaluate the podcast
And we stopped at the marijuana and we stopped at the edibles
It made me re-evaluate where I was slipping in a lot of areas
And we executed it. I stuck to it. I'm only going to the store
I only want to follow delia. I only want to follow
Uh alley wong. I only want to follow sebastian. I only want to follow bill burr. I only want to follow
Ron white and I only want to follow joe rogan. That's it
Plain and simple lately. I've been following teo. That's exactly where I like it. That's even better for me a change in energy
Somebody with a draw, you know, these are the things I forced myself to do
Do you know how many nights i'm sitting on my couch at 8 30?
And I gotta go do a spot at fucking 10 o'clock and I gotta follow three heaters
You know what it takes for me to put my fucking shoes on those nights
And you know me, I don't just put my shoes on I take a whole fucking shower and when I'm in the shower
I'm actually getting into character preparing to go to the fucking store
Preparing like that's how seriously
I take the store after 22 years when I go down there. It's to go to fucking war
It's like going to jackson winkel john. It's like going to america's top team
You've been fucking around in your garage for years
And you got it served you a purpose to a certain level
Now you have to force yourself
Into that fucking level part of your expectations
Is forcing yourself
It's not what you want to do what you believe in
It's forcing yourself. You know flying fucking sucks
Flying sucks at every fucking level. It's whatever hours of your time going into the unexpected. What's the unexpected?
The plane could go down. They might lose your luggage
They don't have a part your flight's fucking delayed. You know what I love doing comedy so much
I overcome that like it doesn't apply to me when I get on a plane. I go fucking prepared. I bring all my shit
So I not not one point. Do I think about what's going on?
Right now. I'm on a fucking tube that's closed and I'm flying through the air at 40 000 fucking feet
Which is pretty goddamn scary. I don't like doing that
But you do it you force yourself to do the things
You don't want to do it's very easy for me
To get in my car
And drive two miles to flappers and on the way back stop and get a fucking donut
And it's even easier for me
To go to the fucking ah guys
Guess what it's even easier for me to go to the fucking laugh factory
Because all I really got to do is fucking go down the hill
Hook a fucking left hook a right and I'm right in front of the laugh factor
I pull up I get the little valet 10 bucks and I tell them I'll be out in 15 minutes
And still I refuse to go to any of these places
Not because they're bad places
Not because I don't like the management. I don't like the club. I love the fucking improv's the improv's have made me who I am
Workwise I work what 20 weeks a year at a fucking improv
But my workout my home my true soul
Where I get to be a fucking animal
And nobody says a word to me about it is the comedy store
So that's how I wanted to train
When I go to the comedy store I go to the comedy store to be
a fucking animal when you guys go to like, uh
When I used to roof for example, I worked for a company from monday to friday
And we did flat roofs for anybody who knows anything about what i'm talking about
There's probably roofers listening to me right now. We did flat roofs
And we specialize in ballasted roofs
Which roofs were made from rubber and then you put rock on them to hold them down
You have to fledger, you know, you have to flash all the
The pipes and the fucking air conditioners and the heaters and all that shit
But basically
You lay the fucking thing down
You put the rubber you put rock on top
On the weekends
I would go to neighborhoods. I would
Because in colorado it always hails
I had a wife I had a kid
I think at the time as a roofer when I started I made 600 bucks a week
I was making 15 bucks an hour
Whatever times 40 hours a week, whatever that is
You know that's 600 that's 600 a week. I was making 600 a week. That's 2400 a month. They were paying me cash
So I was basically making 2400 a month
So to supplement my income
I would roof on the weekends
And I would roof residential homes, you know
A garage with a fucking house an extension
Now most people look at those houses a regular roofing company
Would look at those houses and say
That would if I bid it and I did it it would take me
Four days. Well, guess what?
Me and another guy would do those houses in two days
We would go up there on a fucking Saturday tear off the existing roof
Fucking take all the nails out clean the fucking wood
Put the fucking new rubber on it
Leave it overnight and the next day come back and put all the shingles on there
I don't know how many fucking square feet and how many packages of shingles they were I can't remember now
But I know between me and him
It was a lot more than what a whole fucking company would do
With four guys in four days
Okay, when I was doing the rubber roofs
We were doing 40 square yards a day
And we were tearing up also we were tearing up
a 32 000 year fucking
double black tar roof
If you're in the business, I don't have to tell you how heavy that is
We would cut it into fucking with a
a saw into the into the roof
Into like five by five pieces and two guys would pick them up and put them on a cart
And another guy would pull the carts to the edge of the roof and throw them off. It was fucking tremendous
I was in the best shape my life
We would do 40 squares a day
That was my brother-in-law and the reason why he
40 to some people you're like joey
How many people would you have on this crew? We had five motherfuckers on this crew
That's a lot of work every day
for fucking for it for five guys, but
If you know anything about my brother-in-law and how good of a worker and a roofer he was
We could have probably done 60 squares a day
with one extra guy if you were to let him but
You have to space out the jobs
You have to space out the jobs
Unless you're that busy. He wasn't that busy. It was a one-year commitment on this roof
So we said fuck it. We'll uh
We'll fucking uh, you know take our time on the roof. My point is that
On the weekends, I could have done those rules in four days. I did them in two
I went there to work. I knew that I I had to finish this
By sunday at seven o'clock for us to get a check because we had regular jobs on fucking monday
We had regular jobs on monday at eight o'clock
So what i'm trying to say to you is
When I went on these jobs on friday on saturdays and sundays, I was a fucking animal
We would put the radio on and not even talk to each other. There was no jokes
There was no nothing
We would eat on the run like when I went down the stairs and when he would go down the stairs
He would go are you hungry? Yeah, bring up a sandwich
We wouldn't even take an hour for lunch. We were fucking animals and we didn't give a fuck
It was a different games. Do you understand what I'm trying to say when you work for yourself?
And when you work for somebody else, it's two different head fucking spaces
You'll really learn what labor is
So when i'm on the road, it's a different mentality when i'm at the store
I'm going down there to try new material
mixed with old material
And I got to follow eight fucking killers
When i'm on the road, I follow an emcee who's just starting out
He may be doing comedy one to two years and I got a feature act in front of me
That could be of any denomination. He could be a headliner for all the fuck I know
But when i'm at the comedy store, you see five headliners in a row before I go up
That's tough work. That's tough work
I got to make sure those five guys aren't doing
Something that i'm doing something in the same vein
Plus my job when I go to the comedy store
As much as I don't want to be as honest about this as I can because I don't want you guys to think for me
It's a competition
But when I go to the comedy store, there's 200 people in the original room audience
And I go there to do one thing and one thing only that's my practice
I go there to be remembered
I go in there just the same way I go in there for a comedy showcase
I don't go in there to destroy the room
I go in there so I stick out from the 12 comics you're about to see that night
Are you with me in a way? So what?
I understand like I with the roofing it makes sense
Like whether with a full-time job, they have to space it out. You they don't want to kill you
When you're doing it on the weekends, you only have two days. You want to get it done. I get that
Why why why is the mindset different and they're doing a full hour in a club than it is at the store?
Because
at the store they're paying $15
And they might not even know I exist they're coming to see crystallia
So right so they might go to see bobby lee from mad tv. They might go see ali wang
from her movie on netflix
When they go to see you on a weekend as a headliner they go specifically to see you
Right. So so to me. So to me who has no experience headlining
It to me it makes that you'd want to do
More like you'd want to do better on the weekend because they're coming for you
I want to do good all the fucking right in my world. Okay at this 28 year mark that i'm doing comedy
it's like
The godfather said I can't men don't make mistakes women and children make mistakes
Men don't make mistakes at this level. I know in my heart that it's a percentage game
But at this level I always want to do the best that I can
at the store
When I go on the road
I have to give you 28
dollars to 30 dollars worth of funny
Okay, worth of funny
When I go to the comedy store I go there to be remembered
Got it so
So do you think your set might not not that it wouldn't work
But it wouldn't it wouldn't feel the same as a headliner like if you did what you did at the store
I do what I do at the store for 15 minutes. Okay when I'm in a fucking room. I'm doing 50 minutes. Okay, so it's two different worlds
Okay, it's two different comparisons when I go to the store. I take a headline set
And I eliminate all the fat and I just give you points lines. Got
When I'm at the club I gotta talk for 15 minutes. So the pacing is different. Got it. I try to keep that pace up
I'll have a fucking heart attack that I do at the comedy store. Okay when I go on the comedy store
And it's 15 fucking minutes. I go up there to kill that motherfucking audience like I just told you
I go up there to be remembered
When I go to the comedy club, I want you to remember me
But I also want you to say Jesus christ
I pay 28 for tickets 10 for parking
50 for cocktails
40 for babysitter
And that was a great fucking show
That was a great show. I always wanted to give them a great show
When I opened for rogan
My job per rogan
Was for me to destroy the room
That was my job
Per rogan for me to go up there and do between 15
And 20 minutes and destroy the room
I had a very good
mentor
I put myself around very good people
You know when I was opening up for paul mooney
He would tell me to go up there and level the room
Most headliners do not want somebody in there
To level the room
I want the guy in there to level the room
I want the feature act I bring on the road
To level the room whether it's dean
Or fucko, you know the skinny chick with the skinny pussy k quickly or
fucking
You know subah
Matt full tron fat mole tron or Simone
I encourage them
To fucking level the room if not
I'd go to fucking what's the open mic that closed
In hollywood marty's I go to marty's and take the worst kid and put him in front of me
If only look like a star
No, I want they're gonna in front of me to shine and I want the mc to fucking shine
I want them to get every dollar's worth of a show
That's why I like to travel and bring feature acts that I know
From hollywood because I want them to get more value
I really like bringing women with me on the road
Because a lot of guys bring
Dates and the dates look at like they're telling them all about uncle joey's crazy and 10 minutes into my set
The date doesn't like me
I want the date to get something out of the show the girl in front of him was pretty fucking funny
Got it. I want the girl to get something out of the show
I just don't want that's why I like women opening up for me because even if they don't like me
The girl says well that girl made me laugh
Got so I mean so I guess what what kind of what you're saying is
The whatever happens at the store before and after you really doesn't impact you and when you're on the road
It's like you're in charge of what I go on the mitzy show constructed the comedy show
Stored for it to be a lab
For comics
It's a college for comics. It's a four year
To seven year program. I just heard an interesting article in the la weekly
It was published maybe three years ago
About the dude who stuck up for the dude who was hitting mitzy. Who's a great guy?
It shouldn't be portraying him like this. Anyway, uh, he always opens up the store every night. He's an old guy
Right. Yeah, I forget what his name is. Um, I know you're talking about and he was talking about how
The comedy store is a four
Argus hamlin great guy phenomenal writer
He spoke about how his comedy store
Is a four to seven year education
He's not lying
And that's after you do five years
at your fucking neighborhood comedy club
Like it's not just getting on stage there. It's the watching. It's the electricity
It's the feeling the vibe
When mitzy sure opened up the comedy store. She created
To be a four to seven year college in life guys
What do you do?
When you want to make the most output out of something, what do you do?
You you go to a junior college for a year
Then you get into a nice college and then you want to get your masters or your doctorate or whatever the fuck you want to get
Or your law degree. It's another three years
So it's seven years of your life no matter what you do
If you join the fucking navy
And you want to fly fucking jets
You still got to get a college education
Then it's another six fucking years in the navy before you could fly fucking jets
So that's 10 years. You got to be dabbling around. I may be wrong by two years
But I think if you're going as a as a college graduate, you're going as an officer
So no matter what you pick in this life
You're gonna have to put time in
And then and when you think about the time you go, oh fuck
I'm gonna do it and double that
Once you're there, you're enjoying it so much
That you're sitting back and you go. I'm gonna get to that level
But for right now, I'm gonna enjoy where I am
That's the heart that that for me. That's the hardest thing about almost anything. No, I'm not good at that. That's
That's the shit that'll kill you
That you have to look at those guys like bill burr and Sebastian
and alley wong and joe rogan
Or the people that you work with in your field at the top notch in your area and go, guess what?
That guy ain't got dick on me
It's just gonna take me 10 years to catch up to that guy
But I will be there
And the longer that I've been in this town
The longer I've seen it. What do you think that fucking DL von just walked here off the field off the plantation in fucking Louisiana
DL von's been in LA a long fucking time
kicking it around MTV
this that
DL von has been kicking it around for fucking years
He just didn't walk off the fucking, you know Katrina Lodge
You know
Bobby Lee has been walking around
As long as I've been walking around
I still remember Bobby Lee, you know coming up from San Diego. I mean you guys have heard the stories
This is a journey
You have to look at it and go, hmm
interesting
I'm not there
But I will be
I will be
What does it require for me to get there?
That's where the notebook and paper are essential
Where you have to write down that you want to be
Where that do you fucking rip?
Guys, I'm a fucking ex fucking cokehead. You guys know that
Do you think in my cocaine stupa?
If you guys know anything about cocaine or have you done cocaine or if you have a relative that does cocaine
Name fucking the word patients anywhere in that addiction
There's no fucking patients in that addiction. That's why you do coke
You're sitting around all day and even through the cocaine
I had enough logic
That I would look at rogan and go
I don't know if I'm gonna get there like I would open up for joe when I was opening up for joe
from
2000
To 2010 guys for 10 years
Do you guys really think
That I had my eyeball on fucking
headlining
Yeah
Not in a million years
I was such a lazy sack of shit
That I was pretty content
And just featuring for joe
People would call me and make me headline and I'd headline
But it wasn't something that I was aspiring to do
10 years ago
I was very happy opening up for joe
Wow
Because I didn't listen. I didn't go to montreal. I didn't go here. I was never included or anything
All I was doing was book and movie somebody put a thing on facebook the other day on one of the
church pages that
They can't believe how much tv I've done over the years and then now when they see me it tickles
right from law and order svu to
The meatball king on the kids show to the
I did all the wizards away the lee
I did fucking, you know cold case
I did all those shows on cbs and I did co-stars on all those fucking things and people
Scare tactics has been playing a lot lately. Okay, and I did four
I did four or five episodes of scare tactics. Maybe they've been playing lately and people have been hitting me. Oh my god
I got home fucked up the other night. I saw you an episode of scare tactics
So you were they hid the cocaine in the cars and I had to get the cocaine from the kid
It was me
The episode I taped the other night because at the other night I couldn't sleep and I woke up
And the episode was just about to come on
Of me and the guy who shoots tony montana in the bar in scarface
Who I talked about the story that he was an extra that's how I found out because I got to work with him on scare tactics
He owned the garage
some guy came in
For a job they gave him a job and then he finds cocaine at door panels
So he tells the guy from scarface
While the guy from scarface goes to call the cops
I come in with another bodybuilder guy and I tell the guy it's my coke
We're gonna shoot him and the kid's fucking shaking. Oh my god. Oh, they showed the other one when I went into
The kid goes but my dead grandmother and I'm like fuck your dead grandmother. They beep out
The fuck your dead grandmother. It's
It's ridiculous and I was thinking about when I was doing those shows
It had to be 2002
2003 2004 here. I was doing movies
tv
Opening for joe and I knew the producers of that show
So they would just call me and say you available next week. Yeah, we're gonna write a sketch for you
So they would just write sketches for me. I would fly from burbank to vegas. They would shoot
They would shoot on thursdays
I would go from burbank to vegas on wednesday
Spend the night get fucking hammered. They would give me per diem like 65 bucks per diem
I buy a half gram of coke and a pack of cigarettes
and I fucking
Shoot the next day and then they give me 65 dollars per diem again
And then they used to be a club in chicago and they used to have a direct flight from vegas
To chicago. Okay, and I would riddles
Kj riddles was the name but it's closed now, but kenny's still alive and kicking. He looks good. God bless him
Riddles used to book me for 800 a weekend for four shows to headline
And I was friday susan friday saturday friday saturday
And it was fucking king because across the street was white castle. Oh, sure next to it was shaking baked
Oh, it's taking shakes taking shake whatever the fuck it is
And then down the block was the whole town. I had a sushi place and every time you ate the sushi in chicago
It's not bueno
You wake up with splinters in your throat and shit. Oh my god and monkey shells and you got a rash
But I would destroy and then there was a cheesecake a cheese steak place
Okay, like those sausage sandwiches. Yeah that would deliver and they were fantastic
And I had because I had such a great relationship with them
But I called them as soon as I landed in the hotel the steak and cheese place the steak and cheese place
And they deliver a sausage sandwich
You know the hot beef with the sausage. Yeah and the combo and the guy and I would give him an extra 20
Give me a couple pills and
Ten dollars worth of marijuana and he'd make me a pipe out of aluminum foil at the restaurant
Oh my god, that's how many times I would go to chicago
To kj riddles. Holy shit
And you were in and at that point and I was headlining you could see yourself doing that for the rest of your life
Oh, yeah, I was that much of a fucking dead
Dead piece of shit like as long as I did cocaine
Got a couple gigs at rogan got a couple headlining gigs here and there from time to time
To make like eight or nine hundred hours for the weekend. I'd be happy
Wow, so you kind of I mean it wasn't I guess patience isn't the word you were content, but
talk how
I got no parents. I lost a little fucking girl. I lost a daughter because I was a loser
I went to prison
where
In my mindset
Was I prepared for today? I never saw
Me headlining and people buying tickets in my life. I was lucky enough
Just to be included
I was content just being a regular at the store
opening up for joe
Doing little spots. I was very content
It was never really about the money at all
For me, I could look at you guys and tell you
listen
It was such a struggle for years. I'd give it up on money
20 years ago
And I was probably in those days
I was cracking anywhere from 80 to 100 grand a year
I would bust out a $20,000 deal from somebody and the rest I'd make acting and doing stand-up comedy
And the acting in those days I was getting 1250
1750
You know for spider-man. I got 600 a day
I mean there was no money when acting for me
Everybody else is making all this exuberant money. I was a shit heel. I got scale on everything, you know, but I fucking worked
so
Like what what when do you think being content goes from a good thing to holding you back?
Do you think like do you think? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. We all get in a comfort zone
We all get in a comfort zone and sometimes life throws you into the fucking lion's cage
You know, I love to you know, listen
life threw me into the lion's cage
But one day I got out
And I went back into the lion's mouth put his chair down and sat down
I did it on my turn, right? There's two different ways you go on the lion's cage
You could go into the lion's cage on your terms or on their terms, right? We all go into the lion's cage on their term
Eventually, okay, and then it's our job to get ourselves out of the lion's cage
Go back in there tell the lion shut up sit down open your mouth. I'm putting my fucking dick in your mouth
So you're always gonna be in the lion's cage
It's your job to get out and then go back there and you set the fucking rules, right? I didn't know that either
I didn't know that
You know, I didn't know that either
For years I depended on comment on but that's a lie because
in 2002
I was
I was doing my own auditions. I was hustling my own scripts
I had taken my hustle as an actor to a different fucking level
That's why when you look at my IMDb, you see tons of work, right?
And there's tons of shit that didn't get reported
Tons of shit that I think about what the fuck ever happened to like reddit
that's correct, so
if you do if you want my take this out, I'll tell you
it's crazy that we're talking about this because
some I've been thinking about something and
I I want I need to be careful about how I say it
Because I don't want I don't want anyone to think of that. I'm ungrateful because you
Doing this and meeting you has changed my life
But you said something about a year ago on the podcast that I've been thinking about you said you just off hand
You said like in a year or two you won't be able to do the podcast
You're gonna have to if you want to do comedy you're gonna have to go out on the road
and
And like the new york trip and san francisco really opened my eyes to show me what was available
And I
The thing that has been going through my brain the last couple weeks is
Am I content like because I'm I'm nowhere near ready to I'm not gonna make a living being a comic
If I was gonna be on the road, I'd be driving lift and doing postmates and
Renting a room for a couple months in a different city
But just
You saying that a year ago. I've been thinking about it. I'm like
Is it is it now am I?
Because I am very content and what I do I do like this. I like getting to meet people getting to do this and
and doing spots around la
But when is the when is the right time when when do I go into the law like tigers down like it's kind of a
This is all decision you have to make
This is what nobody could tell you
Nobody could tell you anything
One morning you wake up your two feet hit the ground
You go pee
And you say
I'm going for this
And I'm not looking back
You know
In 1995 I was forced to do something
I never dreamt of doing I never ever ever ever in my life
Dreamt of it. I thought I would live in boulder boulder
In 1995 was a different community
It was a little small and it was no traffic
And in my world I could have saw myself
Dying there like I really could have saw myself dying there, but there was a problem
The problem of boulder I I didn't have a college degree
So my jobs were limited
I had the sports betting service
But I worked for and they gave me a job and which gave me the opportunity
Between us sitting here as family
Gave me the opportunity there were guys there making 200,000 a year
And taking the summer off in the early 90s
Early 90s there were guys making 200,000 in that office
and quitting
on April 15th
And having made june july off and coming back august 15. Fuck not bad 200,000 dollars a year
I could see myself do that. I just couldn't see myself making 200,000 a year
Really?
Yeah, like I
My my thinking was shot
You know like I was a felon. I had all these strikes against me
You know my parents
Just I had all this
Stinking thinking I had all this shit
This mental baggage that I was carrying that would never thought that I would be one of the top salesmen in there
But to to get back to what we were talking about
I knew in bolder
I really wanted to do comedy
I had failed at everything else
Or not even failed at everything else. There was nothing else. I really wanted to do
When I
It took me a month
To make my decision
That I had to leave bolder because I was going to end up in jail
I was going to do something stupid
They were going to force my hand that I knew it. I know me
And then life to those signs at you
You know, I'm writing that book right now and it's like
The Sacred Heart School for Boys I went to was an orphanage
the fucking
the fucking
Street we moved on giving that terrace before it was giving that terrace. It was giving that orphanage
And it fucking burnt down
We lived close to a cemetery, you know
The girl telling me how mother died in the eighth grade all these things
Were a sign to me that I was going to lose somebody very special to me. I was always around death, you know
And I didn't see the signs because I was a youngster and I didn't like thinking about death
You know, but in life life gives you signs
The first fucking sign I had
was april of 95
when it was
I got thrown out of the fucking comedy works
I got banned
and then maybe
You know a month before after that
maybe like
March was when I smacked john in the face
And I saw my little girl crying in the car
And I got in the car and I and I it made me feel good about who I was
But I saw what I didn't want for my daughter, you know at that time
I didn't want to grow up like me and anger and fighting with parents. I didn't want that. So that was the first sign
The second sign was getting thrown out of the comedy works
And then the third sign was I met a girl
I went on the road and I met a girl and she was going to seattle
And there was something about me that I always wanted to go to seattle and do comedy. I don't know what it was
When when I asked her where she was moving
I wanted her to say seattle and she said seattle
And I almost shit my pants
Number three there were there were three signs and then I went into the reality of it
The reality was I was a fucking loser
And county was the only I could do
And if I stayed there
Nothing good was gonna happen
Yeah, I might have ended up a local comic and
Maybe I would have opened up for the Denver Nuggets and maybe they could have been a lot of options
But I didn't see any of them. I saw an old future
Trying to do what I loved and being at war with somebody at the same time
Right. I got in my fucking car
And it was the hardest drive of my life
I was leaving a place that I lived there for 13 years
It was a huge part of my childhood
I had grown up there. I had gone to prison there. I got married there
There was so much of an emotional attachment to me being there, but at the same time
I really wanted to pursue this
I didn't want to pursue stardom. I didn't want to pursue Hollywood. I just wanted to let me know
That I could stick with something and that I could be a productive member of society
What's a productive member of society a guy that makes 40 000 a year pays taxes and doesn't get in trouble
That's all I wanted
And I thought that comedy could get me out of trouble
It pulled me out of Boulder when I sit here
Across from you and I tell you that I've been on a boulder for 24 years
And that I cannot ever believe I found the strength to left boulder to leave boulder
I could use New Jersey as a comparison in 1983, but who am I kidding? I was forced to leave
I forced myself to leave
Boulder was where you are right now
When you called me from new york
What did I said to you you're having a good time and I go you're seeing how normal people live
Right. You're seeing how you should be living
Don't worry about the money. It all happens. They'll come to you there
This is how you should be living
You shouldn't be talking the
Chodeas or Steve Simone or these guys because there's nothing they can do for you
But ruin you you have to talk to people who are your age and going through what you're going through
When you're at these fucking places birds and these places
You're talking to people who are trying to be movie stars, right? They're not trying to be
Down in dirty comedians. They don't want to learn the mechanics of comedy
They're trying to cut through and I'm not saying all those people. No, no
People here are 40% of those people are throwing a cut through
To the fast track to get to a place. I came from a place where nobody spoke about that
All we focused on was on stand-up comedy, right?
So, yeah, I expect you any day to go. I've been thinking about it
I want to be a stand-up comic
I need to go to new york or I need to go to san francisco and banging out with kids my age
The natural evolution is
I'm married. I have a family
You know, I've been here 22 years. I have the comedy store. I'm already established as a comic
You're trying to do the same thing
This is a place that you can get established here
We've had 15 guests who have done comedy and la and established here
um
I think for you would be better to go to new york
I I knew you're closer to your mother new york would be tough just because how expensive it is
What my what everybody says expensive listen every place is expensive, right? Especially when you're doing comedy
But three thousand dollars could be a lot
Or three thousand dollars could be a little
Always remember that that's your choice
When you look at things three thousand could be a lot or three thousand could be a little
You know, if you have to move to fucking jamaica queens
And we'll be yourself into manhattan to fucking
You know or whatever the fuck however you want to do it uber and then park your car and then take a train
You'll figure it out
When you want to do something that bad
That you really really want to do this you'll figure it out. All right
You'll figure it out, you know
Everybody has that time in their life when they have to you know, and it doesn't work for everybody
There's people who are very
close with their families
And I appreciate that and I understand that and I know where you're coming from
But there's other people who have a dream
And it's uncontrollable and they want to go for it whether it be a dancer in vegas
Whether it be doing theater in new york, whether it be doing theater in chicago, you know
Me I wouldn't want to be in this market for stand-up when i'm starting out
Right because I have so much unnecessary chatter
That you need to hear and even even without that the thing that I noticed because i'm very lucky for for for the level that i'm at
I've gotten to do great shows that most people don't
But it's still limited because there's so many amazing comics here
The the shows that I got to do in those two cities
Are about I did about a month's worth of shows in a weekend
and so what
What my thought process was because like what you were saying about being like I
This has been so important and special to me that I never want to leave here
Having any issue with you or with the church like that that would never be that's that's what i'm trying to avoid
but
Like what I would I've also only
I'm 31
I'm gonna be 31
And I've only really seen boston in la
And being in those two cities showed me how much more there is
And you've talked about like texas. I've like what if I spent a year in texas?
What if I spent six months in denver? What if I went
to
St. Louis and spent three months, you know, I went to New York to the the film
And I saw two people in New York that I was very happy to see
And I let them know it I let them know it to their face and why
And that was bob biggestav
And the girl I can't think of her name right now. That's very funny
I did comedy both with those guys 20 years ago in houston
And they got really stuck
And i'm not saying nothing negative about houston. No, it was a good comedy scene. It was a great comedy scene
But a certain negativity went over the scene
And bob biggestav decided to pick up and go to new york
I cannot tell you how happy I am
And if anybody knows bob let him know I can't believe how proud I am
Because I know how tough of a decision it is to pick up and leave
I know it but
And there is never a mistake
Always remember that there's never a mistake you left for a fucking reason there's never a mistake
You don't you make it work because your dream overpowers the mistake
It's never a mistake. I could look you's all in the eye and tell you when I went to ask him the first time
It wasn't a mistake when I went to den for the second time boulder was the mistake
When I left boulder for seattle
Jesus christ you've heard the stories here
Wasn't a mistake and when I left seattle for la even though even though
I was not prepared
Even though I was not prepared for my journey for la
I know in my heart at that eight year mark. I had put my time in
I had really really really put my time in
But do I look back at any of those I'm fucking the static that I went
And I I made it work
When I went to seattle I went with a girl. I was broke
But guess what bitch no matter how broke I was I still got on stage six times the first week
And I got to seattle on the saturday and by friday I had my first paid gig
I let it be known that I was there one day at that open mic
And I went back that tuesday and let it be known again
And that thursday I got a call from john fox or from me mosco idol with uh
Vince valenzuela. I still remember him. He's still my buddy on facebook
And me and vince drove to mosco idol and did friday and saturday
That's how you
A change of scenery invigorates you
You know, it just does something to you was I
I have nothing
But admiration for the Denver scene that I left the comedy scene. There was nothing wrong with I left Denver because of personal reasons
I left Denver because I couldn't cope with a fucking divorce
But I knew exactly where my head was comedy wise
So when you get up when you're ready to fucking make the move
There is no looking back. There is no windshield wiper. There's no feds following you you make sure there's no ghosts following you
You put your head down. You served your time. You did what you had to do when you go
I'm not I would never be mad at you that no, but none of these people would be mad at you
Nothing
Because you're making a move to better yourself
Okay, you know, we've always discussed it here
Lee you look like a pavarote
Yeah, you're here and you go to your apartment and then you drive a mile to the fourth wall
I've told you for years that I live in a fucking jail. I live in a four block radius
I go to a gym
I go to a coffee shop
I go to cryo
I go to a weed store and I go to jiu-jitsu and kickboxing and i'm back home
Every once in a while, I go to eat to get something to eat for breakfast
But I live in a prison also when I went to new york this year it opened my eyes at a lot of levels
It opened my eyes on things I wanted to do and didn't want to do but
But i'm here and right now I can't think for me. I have to think about a family
Right, so I just can't pick up and leave to go to new york because they're shooting film in new york now
You know, it's only a friend of mine today. It's busy as hell in the east coast right now
I understand
But I can't go home and just take my daughter out of a schedule
Because of me. I have to think of three people
You you're single you're dirty and you got the world by the balls
It's time to look down and venture
Or stay here and make the best of your time
No matter what you decide on
If you really want to be a comic
It's time to downsize
Take a look at your possessions
And say this is what I want to do for the next five years
It's a five-year plan and those five years
I'm gonna hit every state except hawaii and fucking alaska
Right, but I'm gonna hit every fucking state
And if I got to do temp work in Idaho, I'll do temp work
If I got to stop in texas and get on the ship for 30 days
I'll get on the ship for 30 days
And then load barges if it makes my comedy career that much easier down the line
I'll do I did everything I sold insurance on the phone
I fucking did industrial commercials for AT&T
Whatever made my dream possible. I delivered chinese food. I sold coke while I delivered chinese food
I did construction, you know, whatever you have to do
To get your dream going. That's what makes those jobs easier that this isn't what you want to do all your life
What about the guy that you're making sandwiches with that subway? This is his life
You know that you're doing it for six months in the Bronx
But in six months, I'm gonna be doing all these little gigs around the five barrels
And I'm gonna be picking up 50 bucks. Don't give yourself an unrealistic goal and go
I'm gonna be at the county cell every night with louis ck
that that's why I was
Because I loved new york
But that's why I was like, you know what maybe maybe new york is a couple years away
Just because I can see how competitive it is
And I loved doing all the spots, but I the only person who paid me in new york was louis gave me a couple books
for each set and uh
Felipe
Out of just out of the kindness of his heart. He didn't have to so yeah, so that's it. Yeah, there's no money. Right. That's not
so like I was thinking like a of the all the other places and just uh
Really really letting my comedy grow like I felt like it would give me
opportunity to have new experiences to to to draw on
And and you know, I'd be when you go to a camp you get so good
Why is that when I would go to a basketball camp for a week
Or a football camp for a week or you go to a math camp for a week
You really make a huge improvement because you're thinking about it for 24 hours like
There's nothing else. That's all you're thinking about
I didn't like my experience in new york in 93
I didn't take full potential
Of my comedy experience, but the experience I did take
The what I did do
I wasn't very happy with
I really wasn't happy with just because
I didn't get the most of it, but I knew I wasn't going to get the most out of me. It was
I don't like to say the word competitive. It was just tough
It was tough. You have to bring people you got to meet people. You got to know people
You got to get up to brooklyn. You got to get up to queens. You got to get up to long island
You got to go to where the action is
The first two or three years
And I had too much stuff going on. I had a divorce going on
You know, I had a lot of shit on my plate at the time, right?
So it wasn't going to work for me. I had to be hands-on. I wanted to be a dad
That all fucked up and I fucked that up, but the main point being that's what new york is
When you want to be a good comic
Our biggest example for me is bill burr. He was here
Ba-ba-ba the show went down. He went to new york. He put his head down and he started at danger fields
And that was you know a three-year five-year plan
You know, this is a five-year plan when you join the service you join for how long?
I don't know four or five years
I think it's two now. You have a mandatory option to I think you have an option to get out after two
But it's four years
Everything you look at it's four or five six years
So you have to look at it put your head down make the best of your time
And know that you're putting in the work every day
So there's no frustrations
And you got to keep your expectations
in the check
I can't say these in a year. I'm going to be performing in the main room every
People's expectations are fucking out of their minds
And then they put their expectations so high that when they don't hit them they quit all together
Now you quit all together
No, your expectations should be small
You should have goals
You should hit all your goals every week every week is the same
Every week is the same when I was in denver. I had a schedule
Monday the Australian bar and fucking whatever that thing was close to wyoming
Tuesday was the county works
Wednesday was club 56 and club 52
Thursday was El Torrito
Friday was a guest spot. It was a two-hour fucking drive
But it was a guest spot and sunday was a fucking bar at eight o'clock
That followed a dine dancing class in our vat of colorado
And that's what it was. I didn't miss it for anything
I didn't miss it for anything. I snorted coke. Yeah when I finished there. Oh, yeah
I did more drugs and fucking whoopee goberg and whatever
But that I did
I stuck to that every day if you ask me what I do every week
Today I do the same shit every week
Monday I lift Tuesday at box Wednesday at moe time Thursday I lift Friday at jujitsu
Saturday I take off with the family sunday I go to open mat
You know, I write every day any day. I don't have to be somewhere at 12
I'm at the coffee shop at nine writing. Why because it's a discipline. It's a discipline
You got to get out. It's a discipline. You can write. Yeah, but I can write in my house
You're not gonna write in your house. You got to get out
You got to get out to invest that time, you know
All these things are a discipline. This is what you are your own personal CEO
Everybody wants to be a CEO
You're the CEO of you
You're the CEO of you
Does the CEO do the same shit every day at five that guy's got a both time million
Company at five every day. He's at the fucking gym. You know, what does that take?
He's in bed every night at 10. He doesn't care if surely he's gonna suck his dick
He doesn't care Tony's gonna fuck him in the ass. He doesn't care if the Boston Celtics are playing
He doesn't give a fuck if new england is playing
He doesn't give a fuck if it's his mother's his wife's mother's birthday. He's a better
It nothing changes nothing changes. It's the same shit until you get to that destination
Then once you get to that destination, you rewrite it. Okay, I don't need to do this anymore
But I still need to do that. It's a constant evaluation
And that's why expectations
should be
attainable just like goals
and
If you do the work you'll attain them and you won't get fucking frustrated
And that's the formula for the fucking week this week. Like I said this week we have a
Another podcast on Wednesday and Thursday
We didn't need to do this podcast that I could have held you off to Wednesday
But no, I do the same shit every fucking week
Then like that, there's no misunderstandings when you sell shit on the phone
Whether it's insurance or stocks or bonds you have a script
Okay, I'll leave you with this. You have a script
You get comfortable with the script and you become the salesman of the month and then one day you go
You know what? I got smart. I'm not going to use the script no more
And you don't use the script anymore
And your sales go down and you go, what the fuck did I do?
Why am I sales going down because you went off script?
Your life has a fucking script from Monday to Sunday. You should have a script and it's I don't you know what?
I know it's boring
And I know you really don't like doing it, but it's the same shit every week
For you to look up and go in five years. I'm gonna be where that guy is
This is what you need to do in five years and guess what?
You probably won't be where that guy is in five years. That's the joke
But then you'll reevaluate and go I'll be there in three years
And I'm gonna continue doing what I'm doing
Just a little fucking harder
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To pick up the pieces when somebody breaks your heart
Some somebody twice as smart
As I
Or somebody who
Will swear to be true as you used to do with me
Who'll leave you to learn that misery loves company
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I mean I want to be around
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