Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #716 - Andrew Schulz

Episode Date: September 4, 2019

Andrew Schulz, a stand up comedian who independently releases his stand up clips and specials on Youtube and the cohost of "The Brilliant Idiots" and "Flagrant 2" podcasts, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: MyBookie.ag -  Use code promo Church to get a 100% match on your first deposit up to $1,000.    CBD Lion - For all of your CBD needs, from shatter to gummies, go to www.CBDLion.com and use code CHURCH for 20% off. 

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Take this motherfucking mule Lee Shit I So did you go to Brandeis High School? No, I went to Baruch College campus high school Were you supposed to go to Brandeis? Did you have an option go to because that was not that but that was a west side school Yeah, I was east side. Okay. You're on the east side. So I grew up on I like East like 97th and On the east side like I was born in Mount Sinai Which is up on like what is not like 98?

There's something like that 90 hundred or something like that and like fifth and then we moved over to 82nd Central Park West And then fourth grade we moved downtown moved to these village So I spent like my four hundred years on Astor Place and watch that neighborhood just completely flip over That is crazy. Yeah, how many siblings one little brother. That's it. That's it What are your parents do growing up my folks had a dance studio? My mom was a ballroom dancer. No shit. Yeah, and my dad like ran the studio with my mom No fucking shit. So it's been in your blood Yeah, like they were just super supportive of this because they they did it and they kind of like my mom's from Scotland

Born and raised in Scotland came here when she was in her 20s and shit So her whole idea on America is like you really could do whatever Like I would really I would remember her like as a kid She would tell me like vivid memories my mom just going you can do anything you want She'd go she if you if you reach for the stars and you get to the moon You got to the moon like as a kid I remember her saying that and I think that's been my competitive advantage is like I have delusional thinking like I really truly believe I can do these things that are unrealistic and then I'm only competing with people who are also unrealistic

When'd you go to high school this Baruch college campus high school was like inside Baruch college and did you go to college? Yeah, I went to Santa Barbara out here. Did you what you majoring psych? When did you decide to get in the comedy? I? Was I was managing a restaurant while I went to school and they had a comedy night Hearing in in Santa Barbara, okay, and like a bunch of guys like the LA guys like I remember Sebastian coming up performing in this fucking Restaurant like I remember a bunch of guys like remember Tig Tig Nataro coming and performing like it's crazy to see You know who's ended up you know blown up from the people that perform in this shitty little restaurant, and then They asked me if I want to try it one time, and I was like, yeah fucking always love comedy like I bought the deaf comedy jam

Like cassettes, you know that scam way back in a day. Yeah, you comedy jam Bro, you give your dad's credit card, and then they just keep on sending you these cassettes So like we just had all these cassettes, but I was like obsessed, you know, and like you know watching the kings of comedy that kind of stuff like obviously delirious and Yeah, I just thought it was so cool, and then they asked me to try it and I was like fucking I'll give it a try Santa Barbara up here in Santa Barbara now I came back like a month later, and then I just started back up in New York and What did it feel like when you started? I just loved it. I loved it like I just love the problem of it

Like you couldn't control anything. It was like basketball You know I grew up playing ball and like the rim was always gonna be 10 feet and the ball was always gonna be the size of the ball and Like if I could get open I can practice enough where I can hit that shot You know or I can practice number I can get by guys, but with comedy was like it doesn't matter how much you practice You don't know what the fuck the rim is gonna be like that day, you know what the fuck the you know Ball is gonna be like that everything changes So it's like this constant problems like how do I control all these different things at one time? I just fucking loved it, you know, I have an anecdote. I always crack jokes like on 56. I

Got one foot in the grave one of them an appeal, but the truth of the matter is I Got one foot in the grave, but I'm still learning something every day. Yeah, you know and It's a lot of regular people listen to this on a lot of comment people listen to this I tell a lot of young comedians not to be in a rush. That's a journey. Yeah, and the journey is the best part because dude you get to find The treasure that is life life is a fucking treasure, but that shit is so hard like You know, it's like, you know, like every rich person that says money doesn't make you happy and every poor person's like man

Once I get some money, I'm gonna be happy right It's like my mom would say the same shit to me because she was a three-time US ballroom dance champion Like so in her field, she was like the best and she would always say the journey is the best like enjoy You know, I come home from sets and bombing and just having like all of us and she's like much like listen This is the best part of your life This is the most exciting and even now when I look back on it and now I'm having all the success like I still remember like diner hangouts You know, I mean after spots like just me and like the guys I started with just fucking roast in each other at a diner the Selka 2 a.m. Like like those are the memories that like stick with me for some reason

How long did you have a date? Did you keep a day job while you were doing comedy? I Did I was probably not doing I live with my parents for as long as I could but I was probably doing a day job for the first maybe three years and Then I just kind of lived off scraps and then nothing I would get like a little gig here or there and then like The second I could you know Maybe a college gig would pop up and I would just kind of like live off You know five bucks a day or ten bucks a day eating falafels for you know Two three meals if I could and then eventually some things start to happen and then you know

I got one thing I got the next thing and I could make just enough and if I had to rent out my room and my apartment I would do that But it was just how do I focus all my time on comedy has some savings from working like my whole hustle with comedy was I had Some savings for working in college and I was like I'm gonna spend all that money and hopefully by the time I'm at zero I'll make money doing comedy So I just invested everything I had to save my whole life into Learning how to do comedy. You know, I would see these people that Invest in the stock market or gamble. I always tell people

Gambling yourself. Yeah, I've always gambled on me and I've always been on me and to be honest I've always been the underdog. Yeah, I've known this when I walk into the room. Yeah, that's what keeps me fucking bound Yeah, but you've taken the hustle in a different way. You got to do it, man. And There's not too many people That Get the system, you know, you become an open mic You fight you fight you fight you fight you start getting a little bit an awesome comedy Central or somebody gets involved and then you scrap you scrapped and something good happens

And then you try and then nothing happens for a while And you're like, well, my agent's gonna help me or my manager's gonna help me Or my friend said at the end of the day The only person that could help you was you. Yeah, you have to sit down Evaluate where you are. Yeah, grab a notebook And set out a plan. That's it and stick to that plan Yeah, and whether your mother dies where your dog gets hit by a car That thing gets executed

And you do it enough and it just becomes secondary and next thing you know I think that 90 percent of people don't stick with things because they don't see the results The first year they need it quick. They need a quick and yeah, that's what this journey taught me. I had no patience I want that pussy now. I want that grandma coke now. I want that pork fried rice now It wasn't like that, but by the time I got into comedy I was 32 and I had already been beat up by life had already been to prison, you know So I was like if I do this

I'm gonna do this the right way. I asked a thousand questions. I got a job. Yeah As like a door guy at a club. Yeah, that's a thousand questions. Yeah I knew the other day somebody wrote uh You know restocked your shirts. You could make more money and I'm like if I wanted to make money Yeah, I would have got into selling cocaine. Yeah When I got into this in the beginning From day one, I always said There's not going to be any money. Yeah, and that's what made this journey for a guy like me even better because

I'm like everybody else. Yeah, I was waiting To get money to make me happy Yeah, you can't get good at money. That's the thing I realized like a money isn't a skill, right? So it's like I can't get good at that. I can get good at a skill and I've I've realized at least Wherever there's greatness. There's money like you could be the best at darts And that motherfucker's making money Nobody that's the best at something isn't making some money So my my feeling was like I'm just gonna do this shit. I love and money will find it money will find but I never

and the other thing is like I realized like if I'm I'm kind of like maniacal with my work ethic like but I had to love it So my feeling was like I'll just do the shit that I love and then I'll work my ass off on it And I know I can outwork you You know, even if you're better than me or you're more gifted to me or something like that Like it's just I'll outwork you but I can only do that if I really love it So I know I love stand-up more than anything. So I don't mind, you know grinding

It's as hard as I put like tomorrow. I'm gonna start tomorrow. I'm gonna take a flight At midnight to new york. I land at nine in the morning. I'll do two podcasts and then I hop on a flight to russia You know what I mean? Like a lot of people just won't do that. A lot of people will be like, I'm gonna be tired So I'll just subtract tired I'll subtract a lot of shit this fucked up Like friend like I haven't seen a lot of my friends kids. It fucking sucks But like there's certain things you got to sacrifice if you want to be great at things You didn't get put on this planet to be look at kids anyway

That's for Epstein, you know, that's that's that's that's the honest to god truth. Yeah, I've been watching you I've been watching your movements and stuff Because I love watching I love you don't learn but you learn by watching let me see what richard jenny's doing Let me see what this guy's doing. Let me see what this guy's doing Oh, this guy's putting 200 000 into a special that he really fucking thinks he's gonna sell good luck. Fuck off You know, you watch And you just I just figured out your whole game number one You're a psych major number two. You're an old hoopster

When you're an old hoopster You always know one thing That guy is practicing right now That guy right now is in his with basketball You can practice all day all day with me at night I go home and sit on the wall and practice my defense on the wall and do burpees And I dribble everywhere all over the fucking house and I go in the yard and do figure eights And I had a backboard and I do uh, what was the madden drills? What was his name?

What was the The rebounder that you just kept oh rodman. No, no, no before him in the 50s like the Hoosiers Like some guy had a drill The something drill that you go from one side of the basket to the other and I do that for three fucking hours, you know When you play and that was your mentality with basketball If you're not doing it that other mother fuckers doing it 100 you sleeping that dude's doing jumping jacks That dude is jumping right now working on his vertical so he could block your shit So that was my mentality when I was a kid. Yeah, I'd watch a fucking back. I still remember watching like the old nicks

Like walk frazier and oh monro. Yeah, you know And I'd watch how walk frazier would walk up the internian oh monro would just pick your pocket In those days, they were allowed to put this Pinky on a defender They would go like this. Let's say Let's say you didn't even see it. I watched this Let's say when the nicks were playing the Celtics and you you had a cover white boy. What was his name from the Celtics? How about check right? I'm talking the 70s

They would go like this, but they would hold your shirt. Yeah in a way See the ref can't see that But you're not going nowhere. Yeah, that gives me a minute They would do the dirtiest things to you. Yeah, they would put their hands in your shorts. Yeah And god, that's why I was called. Uh, what was it called hand guarding? Yeah, hand checking. Yeah, hand checking They wouldn't hand check you they were fucking they would take your shirt and wrap it under their finger So they really had one finger out and three out It was fucking amazing to see like all the tricks that you could do but anyway

Yeah, see that's the school of thought you came from you came from the sports man If he's not doing it, I'm gonna be doing it. I used to rewrite myself that every night When I first started I would rewrite it every night I'd just go, uh, that didn't work. Let me change it. I didn't understand in the moment that That like you could perform it better. I thought there was something wrong with it So I was like, I'm gonna fix it. I read every single book. I used to transcribe Dude, I was psycho like I would transcribe whole specials and just try to understand what The joke was how did he get from here to there the premise like I would just what were the specials you transcribe?

Chappelle man, um, I was a you know, obviously rock. I'm a red rocks book, but I was really trying to understand like jokes I was just I was like some people understand it I was like trying to understand opening and the value of opening and like why setting a tone early can You know lead to something and like I would disagree with a lot of conventional wisdom But I wouldn't understand why just yet, you know, like everybody always say like open up agreeable and all that kind of Shit and like I always felt in my heart that if I opened up like Nice or sweet and then I gave them who I was

Who's you know, kind of challenges conventional thinking like I always felt like I was lying to them and they would resent that So like I learned later on that it's like I should open up as hard as I possibly can I pool because if I can get them to laugh at that Absolutely everything else is fair game. That's it, you know But it takes a lot of fucking bombing and people throwing candles at you and shit to like get there, you know, so it was like I mean, I had the coolest we had this little room in new york the village lantern And I swear to god the only way I could have developed my style is with a place like this They just gave us the room and we'd beg people off the street to come downstairs

But it was a place where I didn't have to worry about getting booked next week You know I'm saying like I I was one of people begging strangers to come in So as long as I got strangers in I could perform and then I could actually fucking be me I wasn't like doing the cookie cutter set. So I get some more feature work at the funny bone I was I was bombing but it was okay. I was bombing as me. I was trying to figure out what the fuck my version of stand-up was and I don't know how I don't know how I could possibly Do that. I don't know how I could develop the tools that I have now if I wasn't in that type of

How long How many years to take you to get on to something? It was like For me it was like flashes. You ever like experience that like I I go through these things where it's like And I knew I was about to reach something else when I would start to bomb a lot Like like I think it was maybe Nate Borgatti told me this or something like I'd be doing fine doing fine doing fine or for whatever I thought was fine at the time and then I'd like

I'd start to do shitty and I'd be like upset and like depressed about it and I remember my buddy. I think it was Nate. He was saying, uh, you're just plateauing and when you're plateauing And you start to bomb again. It means you're about to have another leap So every time I'll get into like a bomb streak. I'm like, okay, it's coming I don't know when it's gonna come But there's something about those bombs that like bring the you out of you you out of you because there's nothing left You get sick of it. There's nothing left inside. Then you go. Why am I doing these cookie cutter jokes? To I'm not doing me and I'm not getting yeah, you're not doing you and if I'm gonna bomb

I'm gonna do it as me, bro. If I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna go down swinging I'm not gonna let you beat me up Right. So and then something in the in the going down swinging always Brings out the raw you and I there's something about a group of strangers when they see authenticity It's you. It's why you're electric. I was talking to Joe about this. It's like they know it's real They know it's real They can't help but see something real and if it's real they go along with it They'll laugh at cute shit from someone who's fake if it's like clever or that kind of shit

But the real laughs are when they're when they're in front of something that's authentic They just can't deny it It took me fucking years. Yeah, like I started out as Lenny Clark. I wore a suit. Yeah, that didn't work because it wasn't you They're not gonna laugh if it's not you know, I would curse and the suit wouldn't fit and then It was just it took me like For and it took me I dated a stripper She brought it out of you. She was a filthy animal. She brought it out of you. She would make me spend my week Do a gig get like 400 bucks. Yeah, she'd make take me to the 400 miles and she dumped me

Let me get into a fight and I could throw that into the street with 18 dollars if I just bought groceries at a house I'm like and I would take like the prime beef with me like walk down I Leave the clothes you're bringing to food The last time we were not gonna have this bitch The last time her and I fought was in LA And she was framed me with mace And I was throwing like a prime rib at her. Yeah fought on

The street next to vista in between Santa Monica Boulevard and sunset 1990 She was mace. I didn't know she hit you with mace. You shoot me with mace and I was blocking it with the meat And swinging at it with the fucking meat where we're swinging at each other and after that we're like, listen, man Once you shoot mace at your boyfriend, he hits you with mace It's time to really break up. Yeah And we broke up and today we're great friends. So I have a theory and not this is not all strippers, but like I think that Strippers experience so much bullshit

Like so many like fake interactions with guys guys trying to get over and I'm guys trying to schmooze them this like Pseudo like bravado part of a man because he's paying he thinks he has some kind of like entitlement Did I think they see through bullshit? better than most human beings and I think that like In a weird way If you have like a friend of yours, it's a stripper You can't really be fake around her because she notices it

So maybe there's something to her like exposing your authenticity No, no, no, we would get into fights And just one particular monday I went from fighting with her straight to the open mic in seattle And I went out on stage and just did six minutes On her and somebody happened to catch it on tape And then I'm going home playing and going that's it. That's the guy. That's it That's who it needs to be yelling screaming fucking. I was angry

The jokes were funny because of the energy The energy was right on And you're right after that I got bits and smatterings of it. It would cut you come and go out of it And then you try to replicate it and no it doesn't work It doesn't work at all when you try to be angry. It has to be really you have to be passionate about it When did you start all the multi marketing stuff? I mean, uh, when I had no other option You know, I had no other there was no other way like no no stand-up networks or anything ever wanted to fuck with me

They just all decided early on that it wasn't gonna happen for me So I I filmed my own special and I was hoping I'd be able to sell it and everybody said no and I was like, well I got to find another way And uh, that's when I started really analyzing what was wrong with stand-up. What did you pay for the first sponsor? Uh 20 30 grand maybe something like that edit shot everything. I mean we had That was a really elaborate one and I did with Manhattan production They were you know buddies of mine and they did it for like the cheap it could have should have cost way more

But like we had two different I did in five different clubs So we had two different camera teams that were jumping from club to club Because the idea was what would it be like to have a night of comedy in new york and just following a new york comic around to these different spots but um But yeah, I just I filmed that nobody wanted to buy it So I just sat there for a second lowest time in my comedy career for sure You know, you and me a family. I wouldn't have bought that shit either We're family five comments. You drive me crazy. What are you fucking?

You know I was like bro, I got to figure this fucking shit out So I just started I just started you know seeing what was wrong with the game and how I could penetrate the game and um What I kind of figured just from asking people everybody I asked about comedy I would ask non comics. I'd be like so tell me who you watching like How the specials and they'd name people and they'd always say the same thing they go. It was funny. I mean, I didn't finish it Everybody said I didn't finish it and I was like, okay. It's too long. It's too long. That's okay. It's too long number one Let's talk talk on the topic of specials. Yeah

I think that what's going on with specials today. Yeah is a fucking horror show And when people come to me And they say that they spent between 150. Yeah in 2000 of their hard-earned dollars on the special I feel like fucking shooting myself. It doesn't make any sense here for 20 years. Nobody listen to me Bro, nobody sells anything You could shoot your pilot. You could shoot your movie. It's cute. There's hope. Yeah But you're not gonna be because listen I knew I know at least if they want to buy it

They would have they would have if they're gonna buy it. They would have bought it before you shot it Simple as that if you've got a show that you shoot in reality And it's better than Seinfeld and you shoot it They're not gonna buy it because you dated and shoot it. They don't buy it based on how good you are That's the thing that these people don't understand. It has nothing to do with how good you are I've been the same good as I was before I was doing well And as I am now, I mean, obviously I've gotten better at stand-up because you progress in this art form But like I was good back then. I was worthy of having a special nobody gave a fuck

You know now wherever I go There's you know agents from different agencies popping up to the clubs and everybody wants to have a conversation that kind of stuff And now you tell them go suck my dick. No, no because you got to let people convert. That's what I realized No, no, no, I understand that but now you see the change And I don't blame them. There's a big change. Yeah, you could be the funniest guy in the world But if you're not selling the ticket, it's a game They're not gonna talk as simple as that and I didn't know that either when I got here in 98 I'm like, oh, I'm killing up at the store because we think it's about killing

It's not about killing that killing shit is for you and me. It's not about kill. It's not for them That's a personal thing that you want to do on your own. That's it I want to go give them everything the fuck I got But there's people I see on tv and I was watching some disney channel my daughter And I had to go to the ice house that night and it was some fucking challenge of the network kids or something And one of the hosts was an ex-comic But I knew from years ago when I watched that show and I felt so bad for him Like he's like, isn't that great? Yeah, that's what I want to be a universal

With some fucking Luke next to me being an announcer at the special olympics for kids I'd rather be at the funny bone in columbus fucking swinging dick up on stage rocking it, you know what I'm saying? 100 but it's so weird how I was not a I was never a An industry favorite. Yeah when I did my CISO special I was a little happy, but not really. Yeah When I did the netflix special Till this day, I'm disappointed Why?

Because I wanted to be you I did not want to cross that line If you didn't want me Like right now I could go to netflix tomorrow and say hey, I'm gonna do a special in cuban And they'll give me a special right. They'll give me an hour tape in miami. I could do that, but I won't why not? Why would I I got to play do you a fucking boat? No, come see me in the fucking main room on a tuesday night Tell me I don't deserve an hour special. So I don't argue on that in my world. I don't give a fuck about that But you're a special guy, and right now you're a very special guy

And you're special for comedy Because you're letting people know what I tried to let people know Years ago that you don't need anybody you don't comedy You don't need a network and especially in today's Climate with youtube and social media and whatever I'm not saying that you're gonna be listening if you want to do comedy for a year and put your videos up And get them to book yours a headliner And then fucking steve simon goes in there in front of you and levels page in front of you

And you don't get ever booked again, and then you can't go nowhere God put you but i'm saying when people start to tell you you're really making a difference And you go on a time schedule every day every second monday. I'm gonna put 15 minutes That means if you're gonna put 15 minutes you gotta fucking be ready every new monday every one monday a month You got to work. That's that takes work 15 minutes takes work If you commit to yourself to put a 15 minute special up every three months, that's an hour a year Bro, it's a lot after eight of them people are gonna start paying attention to you

I I cannot Stress more what you just said. I think the illusion is that if you just put some clips up that it works I mean to put shit in perspective like in the last seven months I've released four hours worth of stand-up I watched crowd work and it was great. Thank you, man. I appreciate it the way that you shot it now What is something like that caution issue? I mean that's

Nothing that's like I have I have my video guy alex alex media shout out to alex media And um, you know, he's my full-time video guy I got another comic that's on the road with me mark agnon. It also does video and editing stuff and we basically have this team As the three of us and we you know, we brought five cameras down there And we're just like, yo, let's just shoot it and see what the fuck we get And that's how I think comedy should be done Like I don't think you should put all this pressure to like doing this thing at one time getting that one thing Right, fuck that like film a bunch and use what's fucking good

You know, it's like you want I want my most natural moment like for you if i'm capturing a special with you I don't even want you to know i'm filming Like the way I would I don't want you to know I know I'd hide the cameras for a whole fucking weekend I don't want you to know and then And then I'd go I'd go to you at the end of the week and I'd be like, yo joey By the way, remember that set that you did in the main room blah blah blah Yeah, you fucking demolished so we got that all in video You want us to release that as your special and you watch it and you're like holy shit. This is raw

This is natural It's not you looking at the camera to make sure I never tell the audience that i'm filming because I don't want to put that in their Fucking head. I want a real organic moment between comic and audience, you know, and that's I think that's a lot of times the difference between the clips You know like that we put out and that kind of stuff like I'm not putting out only jokes I put out some crowd work stuff obviously I put out the crowd work special But like I'm just kind of trying to capture these raw organic moments that we have and we put out a fucking lot of it But that's what I need to do to compete with a billion dollar company

I'm basically out here just going like, yo, we should be able to have a lane for us So if you're a comic and you want to put the work in please Do whatever I did it's a blueprint for you if there's one thing that comedy has been great for me There's one thing I can give back to comedy. Hopefully it's a little bit of freedom for comics to You know who might not have had an opportunity to make one for themselves But what comics don't understand what people don't understand in life is whether you're a real terror a comedian is you make Your own path 100% you want to believe like I love these guys. I go. Hey, I'm starting a new podcast

I'm starting with blah blah blah And they're gonna fucking push it for me. No, but he's gonna push your shit. Sorry. Yeah, I can just see another doomsday coming This is another doomer who believed that somebody's gonna push him You believe that this network Who can't even push their own tv shows are gonna learn how to push a fucking podcast And then when nothing happens, they're like, I don't know how it happened because Where the fuck were you? You know, I've been doing the same thing for the last 10 years

I got up at six and I hit social media early that I invent that no a guy by the name of how it's starting to invent But I just copied it. There you go. And that's all we're doing is watching what works for seven people And putting it together. Yeah, I don't have Uh, you know million so all these guys they shoot that 200 300 thousand dollar special If you get to a place to shoot a special And they got a camera boom I don't want to do it You just took the organic this

Out of the fucking room dude think about this Have you ever seen a nice? Beautiful shot in a special and that shot made you laugh No, what the fuck is the point of this special? What have you ever you sit at a comedy club, right? Not every seat is good Some there's a fucking beam blocking half at a stage Who gives a fuck this idea that a comedy special got to look like the vma's it don't It has to look like a comedy club

You got to feel like you're in the fucking club You got it's got to sound like it like people people try to make the the audio of the mic sound so good And it's like the audio should sound good You should hear what the person's saying, but you also got to feel the crowd all these specials out there sound like the comics bombing It's like the crowd plays part of it. Make the person at home feel like they're in that fucking crowd Like you know why I love the concept of the podcast so much Why is that because I wanted to make people start listening again. Yeah I think we forgot how to listen. I see it in humans. Yeah, we don't listen every day

You could tell from me something 10 times. Yeah, and I'll come back to you You know, what the fuck what the fuck we just say it. Yeah, we don't listen. Yeah, we don't pay attention That's why I love the podcast because it's unedited and raw. Yeah, I could say the one Lee Lee knows you come on this fucking podcast and you say something you call me an hour later and say to take it out I think what you want to hear. It ain't happen. Yeah, it ain't happen. This is what a podcast is. We're not radio I'm not answering. I don't want to do nothing. Yeah, it's us having a fucking conversation Yeah, when I grew up I grew up where you put in

you put in Was it something I said or is the niggas crazy The album would be a little warped. Yeah. Yeah, and you would listen to it. Yeah red Which your prized jokes would be a little off you still left And you still had a good time and then in 1970 something Richard Pryor put out a special with a fucking chalkboard behind them with a menu that had the dailies A hamburger 10 cents a french fry and I thought it was most the most brilliant thing I'd ever saw and stand up One of the first tapes I got into I evolved into yeah after I started stand up and started watching it

Was that Richard Pryor special? Yeah, and what gravitated me to it was the fact that He was in front of a some menu. Yeah They didn't have a fucking curtain. Yeah a brick wall with shiny lights He just showed up to a place and they just taped them. Yeah, it became a fucking special. Yeah You know when these agents and managers say well, I've had 20 managers tell me well look at Felipe special. It wasn't shot, right? What are you talking about? Ended up in HBO

Shut the fuck up. Well, look at that special. It wasn't a shot, right? It ended up on this fucking thing just have a good idea shut the fuck up and the netflix don't want you listen Who gives a you gonna be all right? You're gonna be all right if fucking What's the other one that's doing it now amazon amazon don't want yeah You're gonna be all right. Yeah if comedy central don't want you you're gonna be all right. Why because you got a notebook You got a stage You got a camera and you got youtube. Yeah You got youtube. You got instagram. You got twitter. I mean for if we're comics, we should be trying to make money on the road

That's the way I look at it like I've never made money from a special. So now I have the most leverage going into any negotiation Because you can't take anything away from me Right. It's not like I'm one of these guys that I need to put a special out every year because my mortgage is paid by the special It's not my mortgage is paid by the road. So When I go into negotiation, someone's like, well, we'll give you $25,000 for you to do this on netflix I'll be like, well, I think I'm worth more than that and this is the number. I think I'm worth and then that's Nothing is going to be lower than that because I'm fine without it. Did you get approached with generous? Yeah

What they do they ask you? Yeah Are you turning them down? Yeah Good, but not that I not that I was against it because my theory is I I don't have anything against netflix I post my stuff on twitter on instagram on youtube like i'm not against post on on netflix either my whole theory with it was I'm gonna if I do do it I'll post I'll you know people will go see it on on netflix and then they'll look for more of my shit on netflix and there won't be anymore And then they're gonna go

Okay, well, where else can we see them and they'll youtube me and then I just converted all those people to my youtube subscribers And that's way more power for me So I wasn't against it, but I got another offer that came in it was Significantly higher. So I was like, okay, that's closer to what I'd be interested in I I watched the uh the crowd work special and I come I came to LA as a post production person and it's

Everything had to match and even if you're shooting two different shows you want you don't want people to know And the thing I found interesting about your special was Is that there are a few moments where you can tell that it just you went from one place to another Yeah, and what we were what you guys were talking about Is in your head when you're editing you're like, oh, they're gonna they're gonna freak them out and two seconds later Into the next joke they don't care they they want to be entertained They're not they didn't come to LA for post production. You did your artist So that's your art. So you're looking at every brush stroke. You're like, ah, man

That you know van Gogh didn't want to do that shit But the average person listening is having a fucking tough day They just came back from working a fucking shitty job And they want 35 minutes of distraction from an annoying fucking day And if you can provide that there's no way in hell they're gonna go I would have adjusted the light a little bit and that you know second bit, right? I don't care They really don't if the idea is there it speaks to it

Like I think most people were into watching it because they're like Well, he's just gonna do 35 minutes on stage and not bring any jokes He's just gonna like rift and fuck with the crowd for 35 minutes. Okay. I'll fuck with that I think they were just curious in the idea and that's what I always try to with every special I put out there's an agenda and and With this one it was like everybody keeps saying that, you know, we're so sensitive and we can't laugh at anything and I'm like That's bullshit. I told bullshit. That's it is fucking nonsense, dude

The whole special is shot so you can see the audience and you see obviously me and my crowd is Probably the most diverse crowd in comedy And you're the mexican chick the indian chick the black chicks the black dudes the fuck like That every religion is just getting fucking roasted and they're laughing at themselves And you cannot be triggered by the special because you're not going to be offended on behalf of this dude Who wasn't offended about the joke about him? So my whole feeling was instead of telling people not to be offended. I'm just going to show you This is america right here. Nobody's offended the first five minutes you're goofing on the korean guy and the boom so

listen You and me are from a certain place and uh, obviously your parents are immigrants and you see that I'm out there. I'm never gonna fucking change who the fuck I am You understand me? I'm never going to change who the fuck I am last week. I was telling people about my little Personal things. I just stopped talking to you like if you eat margarine We're not going to talk no more If you dip your fucking buffalo wings in ranch, we can't talk no more

You know, there's a lot of things that we just don't need to talk. You know, you're off the fucking marker, you know You You just done You're doing so many things That I believed it in so long If you build it they will come facts, you know, if you have 22 videos like they said you keep Continuing and I see what you're doing on social media, brother I watch you doing on social media now you're luring them in and whatever try to answer this

Yeah, a punk would have came and said well, why don't you pantry on it? Because you're like for the five hours. Yeah, I got a different. Yeah, you're making it short money It's short money. It's like we have a patreon for the pap for the podcast Right, but like for the clips and that kind of stuff Again, the long the long game is bigger. It's like effect comedy like when I see I'll be honest when I see, you know, chappelle special sticks and stones, right and like the the topic material he's going after and like What he's doing like part of me gets is is really proud because I know we've been railing on that on youtube for like, you know, a few years now and it's like

Oh, shit, we were right Like we were right two years ago when we decided fuck this or three years ago Whatever it fuck this pc nonsense that people want real comedy Let's go out there and do it and then when you see the biggest comedian in the game You know and he goes and echoes a lot of these these same things. It's like Yeah, that's right. We know what we're doing. We're not fucking around this was When I saw chappelle was coming out with a little special

I was like How good could it be? You know, like how good could it be? Could it be better than one day? But two out there was one. I really enjoyed. Yeah The belly room one. Yeah the belly room one, but this one He hit it out of the park. Yeah comic You're watching this and you're hearing these things. Listen, I'm not Too too three listen. I decided 15 years ago Incomely listen, I saw you know me fucking comics. I saw leave this town because they're like

Well, when I write material I write material so the networks could see the show. You already lost you just lost you already lost You just lost I do grandma jokes because I want to paint the pictures so when the network come to see me You're done. I knew that 15 fucking years. I've been here 22 years. I knew that Yeah 16 years ago. I said it's over. You want to know story? Go ahead. First time I went to Montreal. That's what that was my thinking I did Montréal just for laughs

And uh, I did the new faces and I had some jokes that I thought were like really funny and really Oh my god, I know I thought a couple were good and then I fucking John Mulaney better fucking Take his suit off. I'm coming and then I switched it because I was like, oh, this would probably make a better show Or whatever I thought that you're supposed to have as a comic I don't even want to sit calm But like I thought since I was a comic that you're supposed to want that I switched it and I didn't do well And I and I fucking bombed half the set the first time and like I just did not have a good new faces And I didn't go back for years and eventually I started selling tickets and they

Brought me back and then this last year I went back and I did nasty show and I was really doing well and they asked me to do this jessel neck gala and I'd given them a set that I was going to do for the jessel neck gala and The day before the gala I said Fuck that I'm not going to do that set No And I just went up and I did whatever I felt in that moment. I didn't even have a set list I was just like whatever jokes feel that they're the right thing to do

And uh, I got a standing ovation bro And it was just this moment where it was like Trust your fucking gut stop trying to please These suits stop trying to please these execs You do what you want to do and you fail until it works And I promise you if you can keep doing it long enough It will work out Most people can't suffer that long, but if you can it will work out

I don't know what I'm gonna say till I get there and even then and that's why they like it even then you got a problem But that that's why like with your special like I don't want to see you walking on stage If I'm watching your special I gotta I gotta come in to you already going Does that make sense? Like for me, I'm the guest at your house Not that moment where the comic walks and through the curtains and that could no no you're already moving I hear I should hear your voice Already going and you're talking about this. She got a monkey and this that there and then like the the camera comes through the doors

And you're there. Is it you know what I'm saying? Because that's your comfort zone. Your comfort zone is us in your house It's your show, you know what I mean not like okay time to turn it on Yeah, no, it's uh What they preach and what you do After I shot the Netflix degenerates when it's all came to me. Yeah, and here I'm doing comedy 26 years. Yeah And it all came to me. I'm like, that's it. Yeah, I'm doing something. I'm going out with a different type of bag Let's do something man. What are they gonna do? What are they gonna do get me fired? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? What are you gonna do fucking now another thing that you're doing that's very intelligent is

Let's be honest I got a wife. I got a kid I'm over 50. I got a pee When I sit down I'm over 50. I got a pain When I sit down to watch a special Like I become a consumer. Okay. Mm-hmm. You got about six minutes. That's it. Okay And if you pass that six minutes

The honest opinion if this is Jesus and you're killing I'm still probably gonna shut you off at 28 Go do something completely reasonable. I sit there and catch myself going. There's something I gotta be doing Of course, just to the city like a mookler or yeah, you're an adult And then you do something and then you come back and you finished it I have to be honest with you the chappelle special I tolerated for 38 minutes. I went did something Then a night later. I came back and watched it and then I watched it over two nights back to back

And that's when it sunk in what he had done But something you were gonna start saying earlier You did your special at 35 minutes and you noticed That when you watch a special is you being you. Yeah, even if you know chappelle or bill burr or the ovan Yeah at 28. You're like, I gotta do so dude. I had to earn 35 I didn't deserve 35 minutes of your attention I imagine a stranger walked up to you and he was like, hey, you want to listen to me for 35 minutes? You tell him go fuck himself. Yeah, right?

Like I I it took me years to earn 35 minutes of your attention I started at 15 and then I just put up clips the clips were anywhere from like two minutes to maybe nine minutes And I would do that every week and then I then I put another special out But those clips are around seven eight minutes each But you could watch them together and then even then you'd cap at around 32 minutes But I slowly built up your tolerance for me because who the fuck was I? I was a nobody nobody knew who I was So I needed to slowly build you up to who I was and then once you really trusted me and you love my stand-up

You love my perspective and I give you 35 minutes. You're happy. You're like, oh shit. It's not just 10 We get 35 It's a treat not a chore and I always want Our art to be a treat not a chore I never want you to feel forced with comedy. I never want you to feel like you're bullied into it You know, you must stay to the end. We gotta do nothing, bro It's an honor to stay to the end. That's what it should be. That's why I never really sold shirts after the show You're out. I always felt that I really tortured you enough

Come over shake my hand. I don't shake my hand. Yeah, but they want this shirt, man But they want the shirt. They fucking love you. They want that go online by the fucking shirt I don't want to I want you to come talk to me like yeah If I had like I don't like adding a second show some nights because the club will say you sold out Yeah, you can't go out there. They have nowhere to go. You know, yeah, that bothers me. Yeah, because I want to talk to them I want to see what's on their mind. I want them to come and tell me I got all foxy cotton because of you I started fucking my girlfriend. They asked more because You know, I want them to tell me what's going on with their lives, you know, but I always felt

You have no idea. I watch, you know, I'm a fan of comedy. You know, you know who gene paredes Gene parade. He's a writer. He had workbooks on how to write comedy and shit, you know, I do everything I'm uh, I'm uh, I was a student at a game. This just didn't fucking happen Yeah, I just didn't go on youtube and crack a joke and people come to my shows I wanted to I had nothing else. I had no parents No fucking money. No relationship. Yeah, you know, uh, so I had nowhere else to go. I was like richard gehanos and the gentleman So I had to dive into this, you know, but I've had beliefs over the years with specials and you know, uh, social media you've You're one of the few people

That i'm really enjoying your journey because you're proving My perspective to myself because I knew it. I knew it first off We have listen if you came to la in 1998 you had an audience, you know, your audience was a day three hours Yeah, eight to 11. That's your audience. You're not a daytime host. Are you? No, so unless you showed up on Fucking nypd blue or whatever you have three hours a day for them to catch you from eight to 11 Now I got Andrew Schultz 24 7 if I wake up at four in the morning and I have insomnia I can put on Schultz's podcast

It's one of his 35 minute specials. Yeah, it don't cost me nothing whatever the fuck. It's there That's the brilliant thing that you know what I gotta be honest here. It's pretty tough. Why you gotta work To click on the netflix click on to the app Pay me what on a different page and listen to somebody it's netflix It's it's a visual, but you know what even with youtube I believe now that your audience is from six in the morning To fucking 11 at night later they can watch yeah So later you ever put a clip up at 11 o'clock at night and you wake up in this 90,000 comments

That's all from england and fucking romania and fucking berg, you know, australia, new zealand You're like who the fuck is watching videos at this time at a fucking up. So it's become You're 24 7 you're accessible 24 7 and shareable but and shareable. That's the big thing. What the highlight is eight to five Yeah Eight to five is a huge window compared to eight to 11 at night So people go into work they get their work

They click onto youtube they put on andrew and they go on their page They giggle while they watch andrew and that to me I knew the same thing all I needed to do is tell my story Yeah, I was just waiting to tell my story. I knew eventually there was going to be something Some break in the system that I could tell my story and that's what separated me from the rest of these motherfuckers Yeah, you know, but you needed a place that was Uncensored because some of our stories are better uncensored. Yeah. No, no. No, there's no sensory in my world. So it's like you and I We needed a youtube to exist for us

You know, like we there are a bunch of us that needed that freedom so that you could get the authentic version of us And that's why We tend to thrive in this open free market whereas like corn balls tend to thrive In the closed market, you know, when there was only only Comi-Central HBO doing stand-up It was like, well, you better be in one of those lanes because if not, you don't do stand-up Simple as that and there are a lot of people that just did not fit in either of those lanes

and You know, thank god that we got this new like now you got no excuse man Now it's like, you know in high school You got to like kind of fit into some group or you're by yourself and then you go to college and it's like Oh, shit. I can choose my friends That's the internet the internet is it you do your fucking comedy people will find you You like talking about rats and shit or knives or potions Motherfuckers that like rats knives and potions are going to find your comedy and be like, yo, that's the guy

That's who I fuck with the rat potion. Dude. I love that guy I just believe that man 100% But it's funny because years ago if you had youtube You didn't people had to scroll by you. They had to look for you. Yeah, you know, they had to bump into you now You could lead them that Yeah social media a little by a little little by a little and I'm super lucky too because like I did a podcast with Charlemagne the god and I still doing brilliant idiots where like he's one of the most You know famous people on the planet

So I got a lot of eyeballs through him and then of course going on rogan's podcast and the fighter and the kid and like seeing Those massive audiences obviously yours now It's like new people can see me because other people have supported me like I'm not saying this is just me like I'm built on a foundation of like a million comedians before me and friends of mine that happen I have immense power and influence But like what I realized is if you're true to the game People who are true to the game will help you everybody who's true to the game gets a shot

you know like If if you're a real one Other real ones notice and they go this guy's good. We need to get behind this guy I never asked to be on anybody's podcast Right, it was people who I just put out the work and I trusted that if I cared about the fucking work and I cared about comedy It would be evident enough that the people with power will go Yo, man, come on a podcast. I think people need to hear what you what's going on with you and I guess maybe that's I don't know at least that's what it seemed like for me

It's just it's like by focusing on the game other you know, everything just kind of comes together You know, I think I follow you on twitter And before you on rogan I had watched a couple of your clips And I had seen the amount of views you were getting I'm like This kid's on to something And then you popped up on rogan. Yeah, your name was schultz And then when I went back to shoot the soprano movie you reached out. You were a gentleman You were like, you know, you're in my city

Can I take you out to lunch? Yeah, I started watching you a little more And then last week I read the entero bang article. I love that guy I love him by the way. He's a great guy. I want to send a shout out to entero bang. They do great work Yeah, they care about comedy, man. And he you know, listen 20 years ago you came here comedy central didn't like you You had to go to therapy Gotta go to therapy because that a girl beard you You had nothing you had no option

You know, and yeah, you could shoot you special now It's like you said there's really no excuses you go out there You don't want to be a drummer or whatever But you have to Stick With it. See that's the problem. Yeah, people do something for nine months. Oh, it didn't work out Who gives the fuck stick with it do it for 18 months Do it for well, man. Now I'm getting 50 hits. I'm like, okay

Then do it for another nine months, man. You were right. I'm getting 90 Yo, it's crazy because people want to go from zero to a million. Yeah And it's like oh, they want to go viral They drive me crazy Like this this video will go viral unless you got a dog who lights his asshole on fire You got a chance of going viral like chlamydia. That's the only chance you got to go viral You're doing a joke about a fucking dog getting killed or something like that You know, it's it's it's also your expectations

Listen your expectations in this game Like I said, I've been in LA 23 years. I've seen stars Yeah Come and go guys that walked into the store surrounded by three jews Yeah, and an assistant carrying his purse. Yeah, and they were gonna be stars And they walked into the store Shoes you up spits you out And followed dice by mistake and their ego fell apart and you never saw him again

And then you see him eight years later with a kid ugly wife and family And now he sells real estate in canoga park, you know, because but he was gonna be a star Yeah, you even went to fucking melz with him a couple nights and he told you how man When I saw that hollywood sign, I knew it was calling my name. I mean people really don't know They come out here With these expectations and this happens in every field that happens in law

It happens with being a police officer with your expectations of something of what Truly it means to be that that expectations are the killer They're the fucking killer man. Just enjoy the work. That's what I that's what I try to do whenever I'm I realize whenever I'm depressed is because I care too much about the outcome instead of the work Right, like whenever I'm looking at my phone looking to see how many views something god or whatever like the views Validate if it was good or not, you know, like that's when I'm my most depressed or most sad or most just unhappy What I'm at my happiest is when I've created great work

And I don't give a fuck about what happens after I put it out All I can all I can like control is the work Once I push, you know send or upload or whatever that button is That's out of my control So if you love it cool, man, if you don't love it, that's cool too. Nobody's gonna love everything You're a very happy go lucky guy. You're at it. How long have you been doing comic? I think about 12 years now 13 years may have come up on 13. I wanted to take the start click into I mean, man, I don't even know dude. It's how long till you went to montreal the first time that was

I don't know. Maybe five seven years ago or something like that and you think that you didn't do well I wasn't ready for it and then okay. Yeah, and then you really tighten up your game and Yeah, I wasn't I just didn't have a thing. I wasn't I wasn't who I was yet Like I had little chops and shit. I could get it done, but I wasn't who I was yet Like, you know, like, you know when like You're not ready if you get rattled by no reactions here a bit Because you you're faking it

You know I'm saying like yes, you're faking it because if you're if the reaction is is the only thing you're saying for you Don't believe in it, right? But I knew I was ready or I know I was ready because I know a joke is ready because you cannot laugh at all And I'll be like, all right, motherfucker. Just wait you guys all right You're gonna you're gonna slow play me on this shit. Just sit right there. You stupid motherfucker and then eventually Okay, now they're coming in now they're coming in but I'm not flapping Because it's ready the bit is ready or I'm connected to the bit You know what I'm saying

it's uh You're free man You're a free guy and a lot of people don't know it. They're free You've gone beyond borders. You don't care about the rules. You know, there's no rules God you're looking at something. I don't care. I know the rules because We're just going like when I got into commie. I didn't I didn't want to be kevin heart Yeah, and I hope he's recovering on my church podcast goes out there for sure. I had surgery and whatnot I didn't want to be kevin heart of davis chapelle. I just wanted to survive

I didn't want to sell drugs. I didn't want to go back to prison. Right But I fell in love with something. I studied something And then I started looking at it from the I saw how jade davis he is ago would pack our room I'm like, what the fuck is jade doing? No, I'm not doing right, you know It wasn't just j. There was a couple handful of comics that were packing out local rooms Well, they had the balls to go out and pass out flyers And go out and do social media, you know, and then finally one day. I'm like, I better start fucking around with this computer

And they changed my world. Yeah, but again, I watched The computer I watched twitter. I didn't see you on twitter today. You know, there's people who just socially Social network to debt. Yeah, you and I do it very calculated. You're very Calculate. Yeah, and I really that's a big part of Being a comic today. Yeah, you know when I came here I watched how Comics would go out half the year. They want a tv show for a little while. They weren't 10 working out You tour the special

I get into it all of a sudden now i'm starting to sell tickets and it's not like that These agents just put you on a on a fucking On a fucking skateboard and one week you're in Dayton and two weeks later. You're in Cleveland. You're like So they're giving you the recipe for failure. It's until you grab the bull by the horns and go I'm doing it like Sinatra. I lost Sinatra my fucking way. I don't give a fuck. Let's go I don't see you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do this my way. I don't care about, you know, right now. I'm sitting there and I'm like well I was disappointed for two minutes. I didn't hear back from netflix. Yeah

Like that's how disappointed I was. Yeah, great company. They gave me a great opportunity I don't know how that a friend of mine had an expression growing up And he used to always say sometimes it's better to want than to have When I When I got the call for the degenerate special, I just agreed to it. I didn't think it out Right, and it really pissed me off that I would be so careless At the age of 55, right? I've been careless all my life and I thought out every fucking move, you know When I heard that it was being shot in a pool room

You know, there was just so many things that weren't who I am right, but I didn't give a fuck I had my mouth open like one of those Michael Jackson acutely I was going to australia and I was staying next to him You know, that's why I sympathize with those Michael Jackson Accuses because because you wanted it one minute you wanted excited. Yeah, you'll suck a dick on the way That's why harry winstein in my world Yeah, he might go to rape if he might go to jail if you If he raped somebody I want harry winstein to go to jail. Yeah, but unless you lived in l.a

You won't send harry winstein to go to jail. Yeah, because people will there's a woman out there That's 26. That's gorgeous and she will get on the hands and knees And suck a 60 year old cock that tastes like that Tastes like that I mean, you know, I mean I smell my dick sometimes that smells just fucking god awful at 56 I can't imagine what woman would you know suck a dick to get put in a movie It will be done out here. Oh and oscar when it's a shortcut It's a shortcut. Yeah, it's a shortcut people love shortcuts. I don't even blame them

I don't know you cannot blame them because they don't care about the art They just want to be famous So you're just gonna do whatever makes you famous and what happened to me was when they called and said netflix netflix Everybody's like netflix gonna be so lucky. Yeah, it wasn't till I got there that I said I didn't think this out, right? Yeah I didn't think this out right and then I went on stage and had a bag of dicks Yeah, and I was even more pissed off Yeah, because it's like if I'm gonna eat one just gonna be on my turn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and there was people that caught it

That said if you watch your uncle joey walking off, you can see he was mad. Oh, I was livid. Yeah, I was livid I had my friends and my family there. So I really couldn't throw chairs and act like a fucking gorilla Yeah, like I would have a 23. I went back to my room then I didn't fucking sleep Yeah, and it's like I knew all the mistakes I had made I had made a mistake by taking it Yeah, six week notice. Yeah, you gotta get a set ready, man This guy tells me because I love your comedy except when you're working on something. Yeah And it's the truth that don't shoot me when I know I'm getting shot. I don't want to put on a matching shirt I don't want to fucking dye my hair. I don't want to put on makeup. That's not a special

Yeah, a specials when I don't know what the fuck you're doing But that's when you get something special. That's what's special I film every show on the road for that reason because I don't know what's gonna happen at each show So we film every show We'll film five shows six shows seven to eight shows on a weekend Hoping that we get one two minute clip think about how crazy that is But we do it because that one two minute clip or five minute clip is electric I mean there was there was a moment where there was some guy in the audience who had clearly murdered someone

And I was roasting him not knowing that he murdered someone and then it kind of comes out that he murdered and I can't back off now You know what I mean? Because then I'm pussy. So I gotta, you know, keep going. We gotta find it It's like that can never be recreated So we got to film every show to get that clip everyone And that's I think where you end up getting the magic. I think I think when you're just trying to crunch numbers and trying to bring all these big fucking cranes the production value It's like I think that now if there's one thing that I maybe helped

Out with comedy is like ushered in The expectations of the viewer the viewer is fine with a comedy club now That's where all of us put our clips and I think that's where you know I I maybe put out there in the world that that's where comedy should be seen So now that it's okay to do in a comedy club not a fucking Carnegie Hall I can't stand that shit. Just put the fucking cameras up. Let them go. Don't tell anybody Didn't they do one of the greatest specials at danger fields? Bro, cut. I mean, didn't they do one of the greatest specials at danger fields?

Maybe several at danger fields several and it's like and that club sucks Today, bro. Nobody in there. Holy shit. Nobody's in there. It's too comfortable. They're like sagged back in the seats But that's that's such nice people Where do you work? You want to know what Weinstein's dick smells like? Go to danger fields. I love take a whiff of that couch every time I go to New York You go, don't you? Ugh It's it's sad man. Out of respect. I don't it's a different cultural. There's a different time. Where do you work out?

Um, I work out at uh, new york comedy club and the comedy seller Those are like the two main places that I'll go to and new york comedy club has two clubs now And they're just fucking killing it man. They're doing so good. Obviously the seller is the seller Yeah, four street, right? I did go and then there's my favorite is one of them 24 and it's a little black box room I mean seats tops hundred people but like for me, it's You can connect to every single person in the room You're in the back corner if somebody picks up their cell phone to like look text mentions. I'm in the back corner

I can snap and hey like everybody's locked in And that's what I love most especially when I'm working out because I don't know where the beats are yet So I can't have you guys getting distracted and everything like that. Let's let's we're gonna go through this together And I just fucking love working out. Are you doing the road a lot these days? Yeah, man. It's been good every week Uh, I was doing almost every week for a while I was doing almost every week for a while and then um, October I'll probably take a chill. I'll go Moscow and we got Australia and then And then uh, we come back and you know do these theaters and and the theaters are awesome

Good me wrong. It's like an amazing like honor to be able to do the theaters You know, but there is part of it that gets lost in this these big theaters I think so too, right? It's like I like doing it too. Listen. I'm gonna now I got a kid Dude, I get it. You want to come back? I don't I just I get it. I just I don't have I don't have what I had 20 years ago. I don't have four weekends. I know I get it I wish I could go out the 16 weekends. I know and come up with a new hour. I get it every fucking 32 weeks You got I don't blame you that is a dream of mine. Just yeah, I still remember going

I got no time. Yeah, and you go on the road for eight weeks come back with 30 minutes, bro It that's it. It is so fun, dude And it's it's like you said the journey like I remember when I released views from assist the last special, right? We staggered a release so I released one piece every week for like six weeks I had I had maybe 15 minutes of material That wasn't in the special so it would but I had shows booked So it was like I need to fill 30 fucking minutes And that's where the crowd work special comes from is I was forced to go to sold out shows on the road and like

You better be funny Like we've been waiting for a while for you to come to Orlando and it was like, okay. I got to make this a fucking event and You know, what do they say? It's like What is it a Adversity introduces a man to himself You know, so it's like putting that situation. It was like, okay. I got to come up with an hour I got to figure this fucking thing out and And yeah, we did it man. See I don't want to do that. I don't know somebody to call me and say, okay

You're gonna shoot a special February 18th. Yeah that ruined I chose to release it though It was my choice. That's what I want to do. Yeah, I want to just put a camera out Tape it and go, you know, we're gonna talk. I have ideas for you, man. We're gonna talk. What this is what'll fucking work right now And you know what man? I'll tell you what? I don't mind putting a special on youtube. I always said it Put a special on youtube. You get two million hits. Maybe youtube will do the next special with you And even if they don't like you could get an advertiser for this podcast to sponsor it That's what I'm trying to like open people's minds to it's like if I got, you know, I think we're over

500,000 views already in in less than a week for for the crowd work special You know what I mean? Like that hits a million like I could talk to advertisers like you You pay x amount of dollars to have You know, uh, Jimmy Fallon's audience Which is smaller than a million watch his show for one advertisement. It's like now this You could pay my devout fans and we know that there are certain things that they're like you could target them with something But the money up what do you want for a million people? They fuck with me heavy to see your brand. What does that mean? I mean because once we start doing that

Once we start going direct to the advertiser Shit, it's over. It's like we don't need anybody. We literally need nobody We need hbo and netflix etc because they're the ones that have the money But once we get the money direct and nobody's chopping it Why would you go anywhere else? Why would you go anywhere else? Does it make any sense? Yeah I think I mean, I was part of the reason why I dropped the same day of chappelle

Like I've released the same day of chappelle because I was I was like that's a 20 million dollar special And I wanted to put out a special that was zero million dollars And I wanted you to watch them back to back And I wanted you to tell me I wanted to true. I want you to truly watch them back to back and then Just be like wit. Did I laugh? 20 million dollars more That's brilliant shit. I just I wanted to sell coconut schools I tried to sell weed when I was in spain, man, but I wasn't good at you deliver papers in grammar school

No, but my parents just worked their fucking asses off man. You get your hustle from my folks. My dad just worked relentlessly Listen, there's people Look, the relentlessly do the beauty about comedy. Yeah Like me and we were talking last night and he's like, I want to go You do comedy every night. Yeah the first eight years you do comedy every day Then I think I did comedy every night for the first 13 years So I got the longest yard. I did comedy every night. I didn't know What else you did? Yeah, you just do comedy. Yeah

And then you start doing different things and it basically takes you About 10 to 12 years To figure out how to work smart. Hmm. We spin our wheels. We really do. Yeah, you know when I call you and go Hey, what are you doing? Listen? I got a gig up in yonkers that pays 22 dollars. Yeah. I got a gig at the fifth street comedy Comedy and by the time you go on yonkers, you're like, what the fuck do I kill it myself to I'll never do this again. Yeah, you'll do it, but you'll never do it again So what I tell people is that you learn how to work smart. Yeah

I'm still working 60 hours a week instead of 70. But it's 60 hours that I'm getting 60 hours It's not spinning your wheels the first 10 years of comedy No matter what I tell you the first eight years of comedy means nothing you spin in your wheel there's there's uh I think a lot of people often get confused with like doing a set and like as if that's work You know, because a lot of people like I went up tonight. I did some work Or like I I tried to forward my career. It's like

Did you did you did you do the same jokes, you know work? Because in my mind, I think you just work in your ego, which is necessary We all need like a really good show every once in a while to like make sure that we feel like we're supposed to do it But like there's a lot of other work that could happen. You know, it's like Did you try out that new bit? Did you try that the new tag? Like I would be so upset at myself if I didn't Prepare something for the set that I did like if I just did the set that kills And didn't add a tag or like think about a new joke or forgot to do I was like, I just fucking wasted that set because let's be honest

And my boy Chrissy D point is out to me The waitresses are making more money than us at the club Like when we're doing spots in the city Whether it's at the store the improv the seller new york comedy club the wait staff's making more money than us So if you're not working on your act You're losing money My uber costs more there and back than I'm going to make at the club So I gotta do something outside of just work on the bits. I know work to get for it to be worth my money

Right like I'm at a point in my career where like just getting up at a club doesn't validate me like You know, I'm selling out theaters, right? So it's like this is for me to work on bits That there if I'm not working on shit and I'm not trying to get better at jokes And even if it's tweaking the order of one little thing add in tag If I don't add something when I go up in the city I wasted that fucking set and I took that set away from a young comic. This should be doing it Because what the fuck should I be doing? I should be taking some young comics time. So I could stroke my ego That's the same way it's so funny how I just go out Tuesdays Thursdays and Saturdays now

And I try to do two sets in the comic store. I don't have time to drive all around the city I don't I really don't you know what works. So I wanted to ship metal sharpens metal There we go after the netflix debacle metal sharpens metal I'm gonna go to the store, but I'm gonna work it differently. I'm gonna do a different set in the original room Different set in the main room both nights done I'm gonna if I go in the main room where that joke didn't work I'm gonna tweak it before I go in the original room or vice versa I'm working, you know once a month if I'm I don't want to go on the road every month

I love looking at my daughter. I've seen a lot of people have spun their lives on the road the road is For nothing road to be uh I could be a road to something or a road to nowhere. I wanted to be To gain momentum little spots. You don't need to go out January. You're fucking 11 They haven't gotten their fucking credit card You know I'm saying there's weeks that you're just fighting against the wind You know this weekend if you're a comic and you're on labor day, I I I applaud you If you took the week, but ain't nobody gonna come especially on the east coast. Yeah, they're all grilling outside

I'm waiting for hurricane You know There's certain weeks that we don't have the time, you know There's no reason for me to work father's day mother's day. He's the I got a family Also, if you don't have a life, you don't have comedy. You don't have comedy. Yes Yeah, like you could tell the motherfuckers that don't have a life because the biz got no soul is like I don't know like I imagine even having a daughter that changes your comedy He's like you got more soul your soul expanded listen the first 10 years of comedy

I had nothing yeah, no responsibility and the comedy reflects it, right? I had a fucking car that had no bumper no insurance. Yeah, no brakes. Yeah, but the love of comedy Overrode everything sure it usually does and overrides everything, you know But the comedy itself needs life man like Even like getting in a relationship getting out of a relationship like you could tell when like a comic has just Experience something because there's something for them to fucking chew on and then you could tell the guys who like You know, they just don't have anything so they can write really clever jokes, but there's nothing behind it. There's no

Passion like I would rather hear you rant about a horrible uber ride Then here some guys clever uber joke and he can have more punch lines in his joke But I know you felt that way About the uber ride. I know you really felt these fucking things about the guy in the front seat And he didn't move the passenger seat back so you could have felt like whatever the fuck that is He was talking on the phone in arabic and I kept thinking he was talking with me. You ever go on those ubers? You're like what?

Talking to you haven't shut the fuck up since the airport Who the fuck you talking who the fuck an hour you're on the phone Who wants to talk to somebody when they're on the phone for an hour? It's like black people. It was the black people They're gonna get pizza and they're on the phone with somebody Still in a blue tune. I'm the type of motherfucker. That's your pizza. No dog, let me get two slices pepperoni Yeah, I told that bitch. Yeah, let me get uh, let me get a great, you know, whatever the fuck they're eating

Then they have a conversation and that person's still on the fucking phone. I'm like, hey, hey, conduct your business I gotta go to the phone. I sometimes will listen to every fucking word you're saying Get the fuck off the phone. You see what I'm saying? How much more enjoyable is it? It's like That's just me. Maybe that's the type of comedy that I tend to be a fan of but like when I know somebody's passionate about it It's real that's better than any like little clever joke And I think that's the people who tend to like have like cult like fan bases It's the motherfuckers where like you actually feel them you actually Like when they talk about something, you know, they mean it. That's their POV and it's like, okay

I can latch on to this guy and and that doesn't have to be always an angry person. Theo's got it Theo's got it. There's something about Theo that you latch on to him. He's vulnerable, right? And then there's there's guys who are passionate like fucking kittison had it It's just a thing that when it's authentic in there People gravitate and when it's not, you know, you better have you better have a billion dollar Uh network behind you dog. You better have a because you don't need it because the people ain't going back you It's like running for president, man. I was telling somebody that day in the time I've been here I could count

Eight comics Who they've tried very hard to make a star And it's never all doesn't work Dave stood behind them in every opportunity I could sit here and tell you seven names. I don't want to embarrass nobody and they're still around And they're successful. They're not Dave Chappelle successful But nobody pushed Dave Chappelle about our throats. You can't make Dave Chappelle We fell in love with Dave Chappelle for the Chappelle show and before the Chappelle show for a lot of people don't know it He was still around 20 years before that busting this hump

He had got very fucking developmental deals I still remember working with him in 97. I still remember seeing him at the The boston comedy club of 94 with robin hood men and tights 93 Yeah, that's how so if I started in 91 and 93 chappelle was already huge Like he was with jay more that night nick the palo And I was like an open mic A young proud as you know, I mean he studied barnett, you know charlie barnett was his main guy at the fucking park and You know, so I don't want people to think that

Greer Barnes, tony woods you could see the influence on those guys on chappelle man Like and he was such a student of the game that he he was able to like You know pick up these amazing, you know tools and resources from some of the most brilliant comics I mean like greer and tony are some of the best comics have ever lived Like I mean watching tony woods is an experience, man It really is like there are a few people that can you know when you see that with tony live everywhere This motherfucker could be performing in like the living room of some prince in saudi arabia. He could be in

India he could be in the bahamas anywhere. He's everywhere in nowhere at the same fucking time It is he's batman, dude tony woods is motherfucking batman and we don't know where he is but he's gonna pop up and He'll deliver a set when you watch when you watch chappelle in the last special or even the bird revelation like Tell these long beautiful stories and create such a calm and ease where you're just like, all right. I'll listen even if i'm not laughing I'm listening. I'm curious like for me. That's the school of tony like tony is I can listen to tony talk For a two-hour straight just tell stories for two hours straight comfortably. I'm a comic

Eventually i'm like i'm out of here. It is the most fun That you'll just it's just calm. There's certain guys that are gonna like pound you to death with punch lines You know, but he's the type of guy that just creates this amazing calm and then rewards that come with laughs and a fucking Yeah, dude, it's great man. It's fucking love those guys that say well, you need Three punch lines every six minutes. So no just be funny. You're not a scientist yourself Uh Andrew, it's a real pleasure to get you in here. Thank you, man. I appreciate what you're doing is world class I hope that a lot of comics are watching you and cheering for you. Oh, so too man. Okay, you're up

You're one of the ads of lennie bruce Okay, I consider myself one of the ads of lennie bruce We're very lucky we all the shit you were talking about you I would love to do a special and see a chandelier fall And the guy do 10 minutes on the chandelier falling, you know, that's what I live for. Yeah But the networks, you know, oh, it's gotta be polished and thrives You know, and I've seen people nitpick specials over years And it's for no reason the bottom line is is it funny?

Or not is it real man? Well the lighting Wasn't get the fuck shut the fuck up. It doesn't matter, dude Yeah, prove that all wrong You've forgiven all those motherfuckers that said well, you need to spend 250,000 and get a crane and 10 midgets to dance and a long opening. I even loved your opening. You're talking to some black guy He's selling your nickel bag. You get up and you go do your thing Nobody and you went right out there Attack the fucking korean. Yeah, and I'm watching all this payback

This guy doesn't give a fuck. That's why he's doing what he's doing And the audience he has is reading this That he's going against whatever comedy central things whatever netflix things whatever hbo thought of comedy Whatever true tv things. I don't know what the fuck they're thinking. You know, there's like a little vice land shoot yourselves Yeah, there's like eight networks to just there's like eight networks that you would say you think about it. Yeah You really think about how many networks in your heart you would really want to go on It's tough, man. In your heart that you would go. I really want to go over there But if you're gonna put me after who the fuck wants to go on comedy central

There's nothing there. There's nothing there. There's nothing there. They're gonna have this and they go deeper And deeper into the hole or whatever you show like really that's your answer. Oh There's eight guys doing tremendous podcast And this is the fucking moron you picked for layer. It's fucking mind boggling It's mind boggling fucking crab feasts is doing better than most your fucking show What's his name? Sick was a fucking savage. Yeah, put him on a fucking show at 11 o'clock and let's have three fucking normal guests But the people that they keep putting on and shoving down your fucking throat and you're supposed to like him one day

You're like, I don't even what do I like this fucking person for They're doing everything for me to like him. I like people that do things for me not to like like you You're not supposed to Because I don't care if you like me or not. He's been on comedy central Okay, he's better. He's on his own fucking time his own universe Where can people find your brother? Uh youtube youtube.com slash the andrew show so you check the specials out there We put up stand up every single week and um a few different shows

We've got this travel show on there dropping in where I do stand up in each city that we go on tour in and Another show called inside jokes was pretty cool. We're like we a few comics come together We all bring a joke of ours It's like two divisive piss off the crowd and then we all kind of like work it out and then you see us try it on stage later So I'm just trying to treat it like, you know the comedy that I want to see in the world I'm just trying to put on the my comedy channel and Yeah, yeah the andrewshulls.com and you could get all like tickets for shows and that kind of stuff there And I got a couple podcasts a brilliant ad through charlemagne of god and flagrant too with arkash singing real life

Cas and uh Shout out to alex media and mark gag not my guys who are doing all this great work. So Are you doing this possible, man? You're doing god's work by letting people know. Thank you man that they could do it Go out there and do it. I started this podcast I started this podcast not the we all put our pants on one leg at a time But I really started this podcast to let you know that the rules were meant To be broke facts. There's no rules facts just because I was a felon. I was supposed to give up I was supposed to give up for how for disability

Get a check and tell people the rest of my life I can't get a job Because i'm a felon there's a felony nobody would hire you if you go into it looking at it like that That's what you'll find. That's what you'll find. Yeah, we got no rules, bitch The only rules are what your fucking rules. There we go. That's what matters Do not forget. I'm at the majestic theater 13th and dollars a few tickets left San Antonio is gone. I'm also Doing a workshop at the comedy store the 18th or the 17th in the belly room

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