Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #738 - Donnell Rawlings

Episode Date: November 25, 2019

Donnell Rawlings, comedian, actor seen on "Chappelle's Show" and "The Wire", and host of his new podcast, "The Donnell Rawlings Show," joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio. This podcast is brought to you by:   Hellotushy.com - Go to Hellotushy.com/church for 10% off of your portable bidet.   MyBookie.ag -  Use code promo Church to get a 100% match on your first deposit up to $1,000. This Thanksgiving MyBookie is offering all players a no risk bet on the Bears vs. Lions Game. Wager up to $250 and if you lose, Mybookie will refund your money.   CBD Lion - For all of your CBD needs, from shatter to gummies, go to www.CBDLion.com and use code CHURCH for 20% off.     

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Nobody kick this fucking meal. Lee Oh, shit Monday morning the right mother fucking way Uncle joey Yeah, don l roland straight out the fucking dungeons of rap The christ killer niggas don't make it back. What? Get ready to stab a motherfucker. It's monday bitches All right, what's happening you bad motherfuckers Thanksgiving week

Just think 2,000 years ago right now today Pilgrims are stabbing Indians in the heart with pencils and shit Trying to take that motherfucking corn and shit. So when you're eating your little fucking turkey, don't forget about nothing Donnell talk to me, baby. What's happening? Um, I celebrate every holiday. I know you just dismissed that evil holiday holiday of Thanksgiving and how it started But uh me growing up I liked any holiday that you didn't have to go to school for me too Chris, I didn't know who the fuck Christopher Columbus was. I didn't give a fuck George Washington president's day Christopher Columbus

Any day and a lot of those holidays was all after white people had no disrespect to the black community But I was so happy those white people Who was able to give me a date. I had to go to school. Remember when it used to be Lincoln and Washington day you had off in 2019. Yeah, you had a two-month days in a row Then they got hip to it and they cut us down to president's day president Motherfuckers and then when Barack got elected they got rid of holiday all together No, then they got rid of columbus day, which I knew was gonna be a it's gonna backfire Right because that means gonna start they're gonna start changing motherfuckers days all the time

Oh, yeah, columbia. That's once you fuck with columbus now. They want to change halloween What are you gonna change halloween saturday? The last saturday of the month so the kids don't eat sugar during the week Is that like some legislation or something? No, that's fucking gentiles Okay, I like who makes up this shit. Yeah, so they always want to change some shit, but Man, let me tell you something for 20 fucking years. I've been watching I'm like, I wonder what street in Harlem. He's from me. Yeah, I always thought you were from fucking Harlem Now brookman and then the other day you're from brookman. Well, not well most I'm risen from Washington, DC

Virginia some yeah, but for the most part I was when I started I was six months into it I broke out of DC and I moved to new york. So I consider that my second home I consider that's the home of my career But that's my second home in life. What year did you start comedy at? It probably was like 96 97 no shit. Yeah, it was right when black comedy was on fire fire and what made you did you think about it? I never thought about I never thought about doing comedy, but I was always the funniest dude in the room You know, and I've told this story before I was in the military I was in I was a police officer in the military

And I got out of the I got out of the military and I was waiting to be a DC police officer and I used to work for this grocery chain I was head of security and it was a guy that used to work for hostess cupcake company And he was he had a day job. He didn't quit a day job He was hostess doing the daytime and then a comedian at night He would give out free passes to get people to go and I used to go with um A lot of people I worked with and I started heckling. I was heckling people I was heckling the shit out of people

I mean, I was heckling where pros was coming up to me saying yo chill, man I'm trying to work on this set for so I was like man. Fuck out of here. You do your job I'm gonna do my job And I did that so long that people started to Come to the comedy club to hear me heckle And I was so naive Because I went to the club on and I was like look Look, I didn't increase your business by 30%

I try to get a door deal as a heckler Yo, I was like man, look at the numbers that I'm bringing in. They looked like what the fuck are you talking about? What club was this? This was comedy connection to green belt No, and it was like and at this time in the 90s or late 90s It was like black comedy was it was it was popping so hard that it wasn't comedy clubs But it'd be like a pizza shop that you know, like they usually have slow business on a monday or tuesday They would start a night and then they would find it was finding out that you know, these little small comedy hubs

Turned it to comedy clubs monique. She did she did she flipped a restaurant in baltimore when she first started from A struggling restaurant. She had a comedy night on a thursday and it was doing so well Her door was doing great. The food was doing great. Everything was doing great Business wasn't doing well on the weekends and she turned it over and flipped it where she caught the least and she turned it to one of the Of a black comedy club in baltimore and that's how the comedy connection to green belt. It was a spot that The need for black comedy was so overwhelming that Anybody could just open up and say, you know, we got black comedy. We got def jam comedy, you know

So I went on they they they They wanted me to shut the fuck up. I didn't shut the fuck up And uh one day they would say would you go in and I was like, ah I'd like it on this side of yeah, you know, I'm like no, I don't want that pressure And I didn't do it that week and then I went and I did that week I went and wrote what I thought was a half hour worth of material You know, you first start you think you look at the city like, oh, that's gonna get me a minute That's gonna get a minute and that ain't got nothing to do with nobody laughing at the shit

You being nervous and forgetting the shit and I practice without those I was gonna have a set In a week after that I went on stage I caught a standing over the first time I ever touched a mic And I'm sure part of it was it wasn't just that I was super funny But because I had such a history in that club people were really rooting for me To they wanted to they wanted me to graduate from being a heckler And the only thing next to do is to go on stage And that day I never looked back. I was like this fuck being a cop. I'm doing this shit

That's how I started now you how long were you in the service for four years and you were stationed in korea I was stationed in kunsan korea. What'd you think I loved it when I first went I went in when a military when I was 17 so my mother actually had to uh Sign I had to hit parental consent to fight for my country um And for me it was a good transition because I hadn't I'd never been on the airplane

I've never been out of sight at alexandra area culturally. It was great. You know for me not really being Trained in anything or have any skills if for most black people that's a That's a good option to just being a street person or going to jail You know saying party first time some people get credit cards first time you see anything So that experience of me leaving home was incredible Um, I met some good friends in basic training met some good friends in tech school My first duty station was kunsan korea. I met some people that I still um Considered to be my closest friends for years. I met some good people and I got to go

To a place and then a whole different culture a whole way of life a whole Different how people look at people and it kind of opened me up to look at the world different from that person that would have just been You know on a corner talking shit rolling dice and smoking weed and shit Why didn't you stay in? I didn't stay in because I had a discipline problem And it wasn't enough to uh

uh I would have kept getting in trouble. I wasn't built for four years was good for me like um, I had an issue with uh Respect I guess I wasn't a bad uh, you didn't like how you were spoken to I just didn't like anybody just because you outranked me being able to say any fuck off the way they want to It did some people like was abusive with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, um, I I would rather you talk to me like a man first

But not like somebody that You know that you that works for him, you know And I just it wasn't it was it was a good transition for me not doing anything in my life We're finding something to do and it was just time for me to move on You know, I had some good experience and I met some good people, but I wasn't built to be running right out of uh, uh Bunkers and doing in fact if I had to protect this country a lot of people would have got killed so We used to do exercises Where you simulate war

So you simulate like what would happen if you under attack by you know North Korea or whatever and um when you get killed you get killed They come and pick you up in this van or this truck this dude Deuce, I think it's gonna deuce and they take you to the gym And when you get to the gym while you did you get to play basketball, right? So man, it wasn't no black people in that battleground It was all white people With camouflage makeup on all on their face hiding behind trees and shit black dudes in the gym

He had three pointers man. We was like fuck that war So I wasn't I I I served my country, but I wasn't like super patriotic But you know, I did it at 56. You know, it's one of my biggest regrets not going into the military. Why? It was my mother's dream So you from military, um, no, but she felt she was Cuban And she felt that the united states gave her a chance and took her in That the least she could do is offer her son To fight for this country. So she used to never shut the fuck up about it. Really?

Yeah, she never used to that's a dope story But what's really crazy to me is You know, okay, you come to me and you go Joey My name is Donnell. I'm thinking that it's doing stand-up I go down now, you know, what are you doing for work? I'm working wraps. I stuff shelves I make 18 an hour. I get benefits. I go realism. We're gonna do a plan We're gonna get you some open mics my boobah And then you're gonna transition you're gonna look at me and say cut it out negro

How much am I gonna make and how long is it gonna take exactly? I'm gonna look at you and say 10 years Right to be conservative. Let's go for 10 years before you make a dime 9 out of 10 motherfuckers that go 10 years I ain't got time for you. Yeah, and then one day you find yourself your 34 years old and you go fuck I should if I would have got into that when I was and what am I done with my life? But you know, but you look like look how you feel it happens for a reason. No, no, and I get it. But man The idea of walking out of a motherfucking when you're 38 With full retirement benefits, you know, you know, it's so funny you say that Joey because I

Actually have that Sometime I have that I dream about that thought I dream that's my dream Yo, and I was like it's because I went in when I was 17 and I look at it I always that's the one thing but it's a difference from going from that four to that 20, right? Yeah, you know, I'm saying like You know, it's easy. We were just talking here. We just talking like that for I'm looking at 16 plus and I'm looking at a military that uh Always yelling at me, right? You're blatant disregard for established military policy. That's every day. I'm getting a letter a letter a reprimands

Even I was mischievous. I got a little trouble But the military they want you to be for the most part squeaky clean And even if you're not it's so much harder to get stripes It's so much harder to get the accolades you need and I'm the same way I've thought like you thought I thought about that 20 year joint But that four one was such a grime for me I couldn't go to the next 16, but I respected people That do it and even I meet people

You're like, man, I was in military. I'm like, man Think our business that wouldn't might not have been a path of life 17 go in 20 years later get out 38 You really especially black don't crack. I really could have started a stand-up career Then getting seven grand a month Yeah, with the best insurance in the world, you know, all you got to do is go down and they'll give you a pair of teeth right there You know anything, you know, I mean you have to just think about it. Yeah And a lot of young kids listen to these podcasts and you really have to explain to them that let me tell you something, man

I'm 56. I still remember being 36. Right that 20 went by quick in the motherfucker They don't see it now and I starved and I slept on couches, you know, and I took greyhound buses All of that. What's the difference? The only thing I didn't do was get shot at right some fucking do with a towel Or through fucking a grenade at me, but but in my heart I felt like it Right when you're fucking at a greyhound station with four dollars in your pocket, man I did when I used to when I when I um

When I found My love for comedy. I was like, this is what I'm going to be doing for the rest of my life And I was I had a pretty decent job the job I had benefits everything you're talking about And you know, like you'll you'll come up and might come up not too far Like uh, not far apart in a sense of the first thing you want to do is be able to provide for yourself First thing you want to do like you said benefits and let me get some some regular shit And as square as our lifestyle as squares that might think and I know probably and like as you got all you like You know, could I have been a square motherfucker?

You know I'm saying could I have been and that's that's not a Bad life at all and For a lot of people the military that that's what it provided it provided that transition For you to have a decent life 20 years I was like if I started like I said 20 years ago 38 started this all over You know, you could think that had been a perfect situation But then you know everything happens and I was on the buses when I when I moved when I moved from dc

To new york, I moved to dc to new york with 35 dollars in my pocket. I had my my military duffel bag and an alarm clock And my man royale walkins royale walkins had already done deaf comedy jam So he was under Russell Simmons umbrella managed by rest communications Bob summer. What year is this? This was like 97 98. Okay, so uh, he already got it popping like for for for dc comic To hear about another comic moving To new york because everybody talked that shit

And everybody I was having an excuse I need to save up a amount of money and then I'm going to go up there You make a million excuses. You know, you're making a music million excuses. I got to do this I got to get my set together. No, motherfucker. You got to get on that bus And I know he was trying to pump me every time I see him He just think was happy and she getting development deals or anything. He was like, yo come up in new york And one day I called him. I said man. I'm moving to york He was like when I said friday motherfucker And I went on that got down peter pan the peter pan trail way that time for me. It was 19 dollars

And it was when I first went to york, I wasn't getting no stage time So, you know, when you leave a certain place your money you like a popular name in dc So I was still a part of the dc scene still doing the cab reso when I was broke. I would dip down to to dc To do a show For like 500 dollars with 20 dollars in my pocket No, and I had to Go for this snatch that money up and then come back and keep on grinding till people start to take notice And then I started to be able to do the same hustle in new york

When uh So you moved to brooklyn. I moved to brooklyn brooklyn was the first barrel I moved to What's the first comedy club you want to attend first comedy club? No, no, I wasn't pips. It was like it was um I was still from the black circuit So I didn't even really go to when I first went to new york. I didn't go to comedy clubs. I went to black knights Like boston comedy club was pretty much of the mainstream. Of course the commie cellar was mainstream

Uh Catch a rising star was mainstream and out of all the comics in new york. It was probably only probably Three or four percent of the black commas work in the mainstream rooms. You just couldn't get in In the only way you could get in, you know, you had to be First vouched by somebody else, you know, but We're waiting to get past and all that it was just comedy nights. You're like deaf comedy now jam Nights, uh Comedy explosion nights. So those are the

Stages that I performed in first mainstream comedy club I went into was the boston comedy club and that was because it was a black night on sunday And when I moved and I was happy with just doing The black circuit because you could make an honest living it was like so many rooms That were open like you could make a grand a week You know the grand you could make it like you had a spot. You're like six or seven spots You doing a buck 25 each joint you can make a grand a week for a comic that's not married Don't have no responsibilities and room with somebody that was decent

And that was probably one of the reasons why a lot of black comics Had an issue with crossing over or doing mainstream because they got so comfortable With making a decent living in the black circuit, but not understanding that wasn't the future You know I'm saying that was temporary one of the things that I start I got on stage in 91. I didn't get serious till 93 And a young brother saw me in Denver. I was in Denver. His name is Kwame And I think about him a lot because I wouldn't be if it wasn't for him He threw me into a den of thieves. Yeah, he had a black man on east cofax

And you went up and this is where this is when east cofax was east cofax, right? Hooker syringes crack pipes And it was called, you know black explosion on sunday night And he would book comedians to fly in And I got to meet Which these relationships are still intact. This is 94. Right. I got to meet dl Bernie They were smoking back then said young. Yeah, Steve Harvey, you know

I'm sure I met other ones. I don't remember but so it was a black night It was a black night and they only allowed two white comics and they're allowed in there. Uh, uh, Rich false. Who are you? This is this is Denver. Okay. So it was me and a white dude that you guys know His name is dr. Kevin Fitzgerald. He's a veterinarian really on animal planet. He's a big white dude He saves animals and stuff. He's a standard. Oh, yeah in real life. So Like Kwame was a solid brother. You go bro, you know, everybody's welcome

But not everybody was welcome because you go down and they throw shit at you Man, I know there was room. So I figured out that for me to go up on stage I had to come out dancing first. Right. So I put on like swv and I come out dancing to swv And then I'd have to attack him. Oh, yeah. This is it, you know, two years in the comic I had to jump into them like look at this fucking marijuana looking motherfucker To let them know look at this guy looks like Archie bell You have to attack them. Yeah, and I would have three jokes But the first 10 minutes was look at this

Even with that said and but when you got them, how good did it feel ripping it? Are you still remember getting off stage and listen, I was doing comedy three years Uh, don't I like to tell you whatever the fuck you want me to tell you I was eating a bag of dicks But for seven minutes, I was making my soul stronger Yeah Because not too many people would do that not too many people were going to an african-american room Never mind go to the bomb and be up first I'ma tell you I saw the first and you won was it right because when I started comic comics at green belt

Def jam was hot. So like you said all those names you name bernie mac d Chris tucker eddie griffin Um, uh, shucky ducky. I mean so many So it was just it was so many you was just black comic black comic black comic In the first time I ever saw a white dude Go into this room and just straight demolish it. It was rich boss. Yes, that's man. Let me tell you I said this motherfucker had a ponytail back there, sir And I was saying he was going so hard at these brothers. I was like, oh he bought you a shot

But but but but the thing about it was he didn't back down He was like bam bam rich boss was the first, uh white guy on def comedy jam. Yes And and I always tell I always tell whenever I run until I was like, man, I've never seen a white dude with a ponytail Go into a black room like that and just eat them up But the love you got it was it was a handful of comics like that dc benny Out of dc. He was one of the dudes that worked. Yeah. Uh, yeah, Puerto Rican. Uh, Puerto Rican. One of them whites, right? And uh, and um bill burr Bill burr when he first moved to boston bill burr was heavy on the black circuit

And then you know, he he did a master's square garden. We've had the black community haven't seen him since But bill was one of those dudes that would go eat up any room black room white room and I tell um Like I mentor and I sometimes you know, I got all types of comic friends with him And more so when like with my white comic friends when they like tell him say like, oh, it's hard for me to get stage time and stuff I was like, you know what you start doing? I said start doing black rooms And they look at me like I'm like why I say because most black rooms are going to put you on just to see you fail And even if that's how you get on stage At least you get on stage and then when you get on stage you flip it and show them something different

You figure it out. You know what I'm saying? You figure it out. You figure it out like you we so used to Being in an environment where it's comfortable and easy And follow back like when you said the first room I went the first places I performed Outside of the black room. It was a poetry scene was really hot in brooklyn at the time They had this spot called brooklyn moon cafe and it was when poetry was like really popping where They was doing the snaps and shit and dudes was getting pussy just by You know burning the right incense drinking the right tea and just telling the bitch. I love your energy You know I'm saying like I'm connected to your soul. They was fucking them herbal cheeks in the bathroom

The same way the pips was doing I'm into your soul my sister And along you say sister. That's the longer you've been a fucking Say like oh my god Did you see mr. Knowledge? And I when I couldn't get on this stage I was like man, I got to perform somewhere and I would go because that shit used to be so boring But this spot was so hot like

Most death used to go there fucking talib used to go there Eric Eric abadu used to go there when she was not Eric abadu like literally Like she's got this spot like moving to brooklyn like Like being there for like three weeks. It's just a hot spot And I was like man, this shit is so dratty could use some jokes And uh, I felt like the fish out of what I was like, yo, can I get up there?

They'd be like you're a poet and I'm like Yeah And I go up they'd be like I want to say And then I go into a sec And I became I started getting popular in the And on the poetry scene I was like wait a minute. I can't get on stage These poetry spots be so dead and dry I could be known as a comedian to come shake up the poetry scene. I would do also

And that's what and that's what I was like I don't know we think a lot in terms of how you get better You know I'm saying always sharpening sharpening the sword You know at your age and at my age, you know for this is not being cocky or anything but We've been holding out wait for a long time along through types of technologies man

VHS beta we remember all of that Motherfucker VHS beta cd cd rom Blu-ray links That's a lot of motherfucking years of technology, son That's a lot of and not that when I say that because these motherfuckers like to talk a lot of shit Hey, old man all that type of shit But see how long a motherfucker can wholly wait and not just

Pity party like yeah, I saw him on so-and-so. So I gave him a couple chuckles I'm talking about no motherfucker pound-for-pound. Let's go And I don't do that no more They don't they don't they don't do The United States got to be there every night, but you got to stay sharp You got to get on if you a A comedy fiend and that's what I am when your mind

switches Into that comedy fiend mode Where life isn't even life anymore your whole life is Writing watching or getting on stage right? It's a part of your career where for me it was the three year mark Where for three years, I didn't know what was popular on tv I didn't know he was in it. I rented the deep BET comedy off the tape with

Martin doing the warm-up with joe tory and I rented Rodney danger fields young comedian special with dice And bill hicks and if I wasn't on stage Writing I was watching those two things that nut. I know studying moves and gestures man What's the young brother from new york that was killed in new york when you went back at 94? He's still around. Oh good-looking young brother bill bell. No bill bill bell. Yeah. He was like the king of new york when I was Bill Bellamy. It's one of the reasons

he He endorsed me to be on Def Jam When I tricked bob something to taking a phone call from me I called up there. I had def jam off his number and I was like, man, I need an audition I can't call up there and say what is the procedures or do I see the tape? I said, I got a call up there act like I already know these motherfuckers. I said, yo, there's donny with bob. They put him on the phone The receptionist was like who is I said never mind. Look tell tell bob

She was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. She put him on the phone. Who is it donna? I tricked your receptionist, blah, blah, blah I had an open for a lot of the guys that under your management or whatever Uh, I just want a shot And he said can you come this Thursday? I said, uh, I said, um, I'm working this there. He said nigga, you got a job How you a real community? You got a job but I'm sure Because and I had worked after that I had worked with bill bellamy and bill bellamy was the one that dropped the seat and um

Bob Sumner's ear Up in his brain for him to let me get an audition And then you got on deaf jam. I got a year was this this was like 90 I was doing comedy for six months when I made deaf jam And did your life change? It didn't change the reason why I didn't change at that time for deaf jam You uh for your life to change you had to have an explosive set Now you could have a set where you could make some money for a couple years because

It was such a demand for black comedy That everybody was doing rooms and the biggest credit for black comedian was deaf comedy jam And you know I'm saying like you and he had to be the baddest motherfucker You just had to be on deaf jam and the promoter could be like just from deaf economy jam The brand sold itself. Hopefully you get one of the marquee people, but if not, you're still getting somebody from deaf jam So with me, I was really young when I made it. I made it deaf jam I was doing comedy for six months And I tape deaf jam. I was doing comedy for 11 months. I was green. I didn't know nothing about those bright lights or whatever

I told a story About this fat kid taking my bike when I was a kid. It was my signature bit in dc It was a bit where um, I kind of it was animated. I acted out, but I'll be honest my scent wasn't explosive I'll to be Even keep it real real I thank michael blackson for me even making the cut Because when you tape deaf jam is for comics that tape one person always going to get cut Everybody didn't make it one person and whoever had the

Not the wackest, but the least funny That is going to get cut and that and I'll be honest. It was me some anthony, uh anthony, uh, god damn it Dane with steve already. Um, I my brain is catching the fuck now A anthony anthony j anthony brown j anthony brown some more this guy named white j anthony brown some more why it Me it was four or five tape me michael blackson and

My set was just okay michael blackson destroyed the room michael blackson was ripping his room just demolished his room it's going crazy And at the end of it say he already damn it in in the middle of a stand to know And he went to africa you money focus you want to i'm africa You know what that mean and did everybody say what what he said?

I have a big dick everybody's like, uh, uh, and he was like you want to see my dick They was like, yeah, and they thought it did this motherfucker pull it out of prosthetic dick And five feet long right five feet long big black vady A big-ass horse dick and he started waving around and it ripped the room But dev jam was coming down under a lot of flat because it was like all right this shit is getting too crazy You know i'm saying it's like come on now y'all pulling out big-ass dicks How far we gonna take a dick joke and mike said this far right and that mike

Got cut off of it because this set was he could have closed He got cut because of that and it gave me the opportunity to be on the show But it didn't like it what it did for me is it started I could have other conversations with people, you know promoters in different shifts They were doing a chilling circuit, but it's like oh shit. It's a reference point You know i'm saying it's like oh that is the death guy from dev jam and like back then they knew you by a joke You told you know i'm saying it's like royale. He did this joke where he said i ain't scared you i'm not he said uh You know y'all not gonna make me nervous tonight

And then he takes this coat off or turns around and put on the mic stand He's got a gun in his backside. So they knew him as to do with the gun in the back You know at the time chris tucker was known as The pissed off man Because when chris tucker made it when chris tucker was on dev jam He got seen by bob summoner bob summoner was a talent coordinator. I don't know if you know, but they had a really pop popular black Uh Comedy competition called the bay area black. It was over in oakland. It was ran for like 15 to 20 years

If i'm not mistaken, what's his name one of the couple time Mr. Cooper. Yep. Exactly. Yeah that launched him. Yes that that launched him That was the direct because i think if i'm not mistaken Marcus keen who you cemented jayme. I think he was affiliated with some kind of way But whatever it was when it came to black comedy. That's where you went and chris tucker was a part of that That competition and chris tucker. He didn't win a competition I think he came in like second and at the time chris chris tucker had like six minutes

That's it. But you know in his business Sometimes people think you you got an hour and a half sometimes all you need is three minutes of the right shit And it's god He had to look he had the energy You know i'm saying he was in a jetty. He was happy. He was friendly And he just had this energy. He has six minutes and that's all He needed And it was like and this was this was dev jam dev jam was

Making people overnight stars on one tape. That's how proud the power for the show was The show came on a 12 o'clock friday nights and you planned your evening or whatever you're going to do It happened after dev jam came off And i remember chris tucking i've said this on different platforms when chris tucking came off and said pissed off, man You know some people just got it just he said pissed off, man He said i'm so broke if a nigga robbed me and it'd just be practice And he did some shit And it was pow pow burning mech. I ain't scared of you motherfuckers pow

Adele givings these big lifts and your little dick would be like giving a whale a tic tac pow It got so bad joy that motherfuckers was was like writing catchphrases They were like, oh if i get to this shug it, okay Something that people could remember you from and people was eating off of that I could still see joe tory and recite his routine. Yeah joe tory was one of those he was a breakaway Lawrence i could recite his routine. There was a bit he had that martin It was just martin was man. It was just such a a lot of

People i don't know if they know the story but martin wasn't the first option for dev comedy jam It was robin i'm robin robin robin harris one of the funniest man one of the funny Funny motherfuckers stop joke and a good good good motherfucking you can feel it but you know and his passing They was looking for that was robin. Um, that was robin harris show He passed martin was bubbling And next thing you know That was it and like and next i think the show

Uh dev jam kind of suffered with martin left because he just stamped it so much as when you heard dev jam You heard of martin Lawrence and no disrespect to joe tory or all the other attempts they made but Martin was just so likeable You know i'm saying he was so likeable and he had that gift to be able to be um Insulted without being offensive You know i'm saying like he could get you right there like oh, you know And then he'd bring you right back and he man martin did so much

Martin Russell Simmons and stan latham Did so and bob summer did so much for black comedy man They created a platform when it didn't exist When all you had was late like david letterman, you know, you had those late night circuits and late late night shows But how often did you see a black person knows you hardly ever did and they found that need and desire and they filled it and Made some careers man. Really that show really made some careers from 95 to 2000 uh

Black comedy was so huge no matter what town you went to What club you went to? They had one night a week dedicated Me you know black sunday black thunder and they always flew two guys in always sold out two shows But one of the busiest african-american shows i ever saw in my life was d ray davis in chicago on sunday He had a sunday night four shows And that was his night He would walk out there with 30 g's and let me tell you something man. This is that that was the that was the hustle

I had like he didn't even need to leave there every city 100 grand one night or one A month in chicago how many people would chill out like 1200 for the night, but the thing joey that was like that was um And and and on the urban scene that was the hustle, right the hustle like you like everybody and in hustle went to different cities And then we created like in the black circuit. We created our own Tours, but we called them runs You know i'm saying you knew like d ray will have a night and then somebody else will have a dude in south florida good dude glasses been there since marvin dixon marvin marvin dixon is another example

I had a room in um in uh in brooklyn new york. It was called poke knockers Right, it was called poke knockers and it was just like this west indian restaurant and we would do We would do like we would do 4 000 at the door And then food and drinks to do like 10 12 000 This was on a monday night And like you said like the smart comics the ones the entrepreneurs and you can see how de ray's become so so successful Like we had like the dope dudes in city You had a night that you could eat off of I was a struggling comment for yeah to have one night where I could pay my rent

I was gonna have a lot of bills, but that's when you know when you adapt d ray did it Um d ray did it bernie mac before bernie mac blew up on dev jam. He had a cotton club down in chicago Yeah, they had a cotton and I still I heard stories about But the only thing but the only thing about it joy was like with these pop-up black shows or whatever And then like people started like like looking down Certain clubs and stuff. They will look down on black comedy Do you know they they would just lump anybody if you just said Motherfucker

We were like, oh, he's one of dev jam acts You know I'm saying and then a lot of people didn't a lot didn't respect some of the stand-ups from there So now you got that it's all it's going to only going to last for a certain amount of time You got that certain type of money, but now you got you you don't have to do mainstream But you know the more people that know about you the more opportunity is not too many. Um It's not too many black comics That have built a very very successful career just off the black audience What do we have now right now? We have

Chocolate sundae chocolate sundaes. We have d ray monday. D ray monday. Then they they made it They went small with it at the comedy store, uh, um, thursday thursday upstairs upstairs michelle murdoch now when I got to this town If you wanted an agent a manager a movie You had to be at one of those nights Great, I wasn't a big chocolate sundae guy that at one time and bombed the guy didn't like me Pookie the check up this i'm talking 98. Okay, cool. I don't you know who's in the wind Was chris spencer the house who was hosted there?

chris spencer, you're right and webber used to go there chris webber Yeah, we're going there with the black model yo chris webber was a I think he wanted to be a stand-up because yes Where he was when he was with the wizards? Um, he used to always be at the comedy spots, man So I used to go to that one joe tory too joe tory's partner from indianapolis or guy tory had Guy and and joe had And they had a partner Solid brother out of what I still asked about candy city

He threw me up on there You know and that was 35 hours in those days people don't know it 35 hours on the tuesday, what? Man when I was in new york, man And they would have ribs and shit that we get a catered from uh, and you got to eat free and you got to eat free and shit motherfuckers will know about that in two drink tickets and two two drink tickets Shit two drink tickets and you can walk with your 30. You had something bullshit motherfuckers be like Thank you. You 30. I was like uh the drink 15. I was motherfucking give me that drink leave me the fuck alone

And the improv had monday night and that was officially first of all joe tory's room on tuesdays was where They went to see chris spencer for american history x. Oh, yeah, but they gave it to guy tory I didn't know that story and then they went to see joe tory for fifth dimension And I gave it to guy chris tucker. Yeah, they'd be like stop coming to my mother for shows I still remember being a telemarketer at the store. Uh and the main room seats 450 people

And they would get a hundred industry people real not Oh, yeah, i'm talking Paramount the ones when you see the motherfucker write on a piece of paper like, oh, I got it. I got it And but monday night at the improv was the night That was it's hot night spiked spiked davis spiked davis started dead. This is 98. This is when it was Ariel spears and cori miller zoo. Oh, yeah zoo's fire zoo in 98

Is that why I don't see people doing it that much anymore like All all ton of all time comedians would go at the end of this and they'd be thank you I've been lee side, right? I've been like people don't really do that And is that why people would do it so like the industry would be like, oh shit. Okay That's the way for the improv did it right. What the improv did was the host for now It's been like 25 30 years to it 20. Yeah, so this is 98 if you got a triple crown Shit, it was good. That means you did latino night. Oh, yeah fact. Oh, what do you call a hat trick right hat trick? Yeah, and then you ran over to the

I improv and did Freaky monday. I don't remember that but I know the triple freaky monday Why you change your voice when you sit like nobody listening no more? Yo, you're like we It's a secret time. Okay. Also, it's my uncle joey feels young. All right. I felt that you may you look me in my eyes When you change your tone, what's that white dude? That's got the neighborhood Mr. Rogers the right. I'm like mr I feel like he's a pervert for some reason. He is a pervert, but when he takes you into the law ranges Don't do this to me man. Like you know, I'm gonna talk to you about some perverted shit

But uh freaky monday was very good very industry strong The host went up and then he would put a five minute Act up black or white Getting his chops And then the lineup would start at 907 807 And it was you know, a five young killers And then at 835 they put on the hottest

White dude working pop low dug stand whole right Shit like that, right then The african-americans would start and it would be bernie Top top And I still remember going like six or seven times and going I'm on to something And then fucking stand up one at one night and he goes It's easy to jump over a fire. I just thought it was a nigger

And chris tuck was up on stage and have the room laugh because the joke was funny He didn't mean it in the racist way chris tuck. I heard it He yells get that white motherfucker off the stage and that was it The room went silent guess who's gonna follow that you yes So I went up there. That was what they called defining moments, son dog. I went up there to crickets. Really? They just turned Oh, they couldn't you you represented that crap that white motherfucker get him out of here Just die to slow that

Yo, you was like, all right, I'll be back motherfucker And I did come back. I came back like two or three other times and then it just got too rough It was too the book changed and whatever But those were the nights if you wanted an agent You have to be an agent with black But then but the thing but the thing people don't understand Joey just like what's a lot of people don't understand and come like like like writing like It's weird now because you go places people try to set the list a certain way and they be talking about

Well, he's not going to be the father that they try to pace the show but You always got to be ready to have a defining moment I came up one time and I think I you know, I get my shit off on stage and I'm I'm back in um and uh And did let main the main room at the commie store and you was up And I was like god damn this motherfucker

Every joke felt like he about to say good night I'm like, oh, shit. What you do you what you you sink or swim? And I was like fuck that I I just love being in a situation where What motherfuckers either want to count you out or they're gonna see what's next and did step to that and there's so many motherfuckers now They did so weak when it comes to that shit It's so weak with it and it's like that our business is like our our uh

I won't say competition but the way we flow it only brings out the best in a motherfucker Yes, it does It does like but oh you ain't trying to I think neil britton said sometimes once I was he was going behind me He said are we doing closers? I'm like motherfucker. I'm doing whatever I'm doing whatever I need to do to fuck this crowd up. That's it. That's your job I don't give a fuck if you like I'm working on this new material. Guess what? I'm gonna figure out the work that shit, but my job When I go up there and smash that bitch

Whether I'm in like, you know I came up from a school of like fat doctors old school guy from dc He was a mentor to a lot of people and we talked about working out people feel like they wouldn't to work out You got to always just do straight new shit. He's like man, you get the motherfuckers going throw that new shit in the middle somewhere And then do your shit You know, you ain't gotta where oh I'm working. I mean they do it motherfuckers do that

I'm working on this and I just I don't know. I'm just like I feel like that shit got to be in the moment And just once you get it, that's what it is. It's gotta be gotta be the moment. It's not what I wrote I feel like this. It's never what I wrote on the page. It's how I feel How I feel is gonna sell a joke more than anything You know what I'm saying? You feel fucked up. You got a well-written joke. That should sound like you're a fucking writer done now you Got together with royale. Who's the sweet other guy? Good guy. I was here for the royale blow up with the tv show and everything

All done built alas. Yeah. Oh, well, he left me He left that that's where that motherfucker left you was here. Yo, I was here. He was running things and he got speed Yeah, man speed. He was hot. He was hot. Yo, man from my where I came up or whatever that I'm gonna tell you Uh built alas is a reason why I got the brownstone that he had He had a brand he was written a brownstone, right? And it was a dope brownstone that month We was broke as a motherfucker But we had a dope brownstone and he had an above ground swimming pool in the back of that bitch

The guy who owned the building he had he had two brownstones. He split the fence in the middle opened it up African dude worked for a bank. He opened up and had above ground swimming pool That's not exciting to a lot of people but for fucking brooklyn new york to say you got a pool And I remember royal like you I didn't I didn't talk to anybody was on on this side of it He was popping bro. Yo, he had a tv show Built alas, but you got to be Selected on how you name shows because you can't name a show where critic can fuck you up

They would just say built alas won't you know what I'm saying? It wasn't met with really no, but but here's the thing And the way I look at stuff as much as critical people Want to say or didn't last or whatever they felt about it? That motherfucker did something that a lot of people I started with and people I'm still rocking with now have never got to You didn't have you haven't got to sit at the big table with motherfucking sand nbc. It's like You got you haven't been in an in part of an announcement When nbc dudes they're far lineup and you was on that bitch

And then angela bolac whatever can whatever that shit is speed you want some other shit And I remember because the motherfucker just left new york. He said I'm moving He did the same shit to me that motherfucker left, but he left me in a good situation I just had to find another roommate, but I remember when he took off and he found a lot of success earlier On his career, which I think has uh really helped him Become a better businessman

A better producer. He does a lot of like a lot of our specials He has relationships with so many people relationships with kevin heart I think that getting that much success so early on is seeing how it could fleet And then but not by your design just how shit happens What you're going to do now? And I know he's he went through that from like it's popping. It's popping like whoa, it's slow. It's slow But what can I do now? I'm gonna reinvent myself. I'm still going to stand up But like uh like met the man said I'm tired of being a um chump in the front

I want to be the mac in the back, you know, but it's so cool that you Dnew that story because he was gone that motherfucker. I didn't I could see his wisdom He just he was so goddamn happy you could see wisdom teeth in the back of his fucking mouth, man When did chappelle come into your life? Chappelle came into my life um He came into my life Before I even met him

and the reason why I say that Not too many people leave to go to new york or to la. That's the hardest thing for a motherfucker. Do they be scared shitless of it? Some people do it and they come back I'm older than they but Dave is older than me in comedy So when I first started when I first started dc. I was um And again, it's not being cocky. I was on fire. You can tell any asking about I was literally smoking

I was doing for six months people thought I was doing it for three years. I was The name coming out of dc. You know, you leave somewhere What's the name you go back for crisps and all that type of shit? You like what's the name? and I said uh I was like, um Who is uh And people used to tell me yo, you know who who getting it? I'm like, who this young nigga Dave chappelle You're young nigga, right? I'm like, how young he like he's 16 and 17. He getting money, son

I mean young and that's how he said dc. He getting money young He up there. He doing his thing. He fucking with the white boys the ages and shit And and I used to say because I thought I was on fire And I'm saying to myself Fuck make this motherfucker so funny. It was no competition or anything, right? And then I put my face here. He looked at my face and said, well, he's young, right? Like I'm a old ass motherfucker. There's like he's young. He's uh, he's smart He's animated and then this is something that a lot of comments and have they said one of my friend Mike

Watched it. He said and he uh, he act all his shit out You know what I mean? Like that means if you're doing that producing the records are received as an actor You know I'm saying you got people to tell a joke, but when they said that, you know, it's like he act all this stuff out He's good at storytelling. He's everything that embodies a dc comic So I would ask about him And he's told he shared this story on my birthday two years ago and chris spencer said How did you meet don? He said and and dave reversed the story. He said, you know, they said I had it popping in new york

I was the man. I used to go home to dc and I used to ask like who's popping And then he said I would always hear the regular names. Ba-ba-ba. They said, but they got this one motherfucker Name donny or all it's that dave said he was like, man. Fuck that nigga, right? Because I don't think it's like we giving props, but we don't want to give props So when I moved when I when I finally moved to new york I met um, dave because he used to would come around to the boss of comic club on black night But he would do mainstream. He did all the clubs and then it was just it was that relationship we had as being

Two motherfuckers that was thorough from dc that connected us It was that it was it wasn't like Hanging out it was we met I think the best way To meet or engage somebody is respecting them Respect their reputation or what you hear about them. You know what I'm saying? And that's how that was our connection And this was years before the even the birth of chappelle show so You're cooking your

You know, you're in new york. You're making it happen any acting classes I never took a um an acting class I uh, uh, uh I I don't know them a great actor. I can get I can get past it But what I would do I took uh, I would get monologue books And this practice monologues in a mirror and shit And this was the weird thing this goes back to what you said earlier about that three year period when all you're thinking about

Is creating all you like you thinking about your life or your future like this is it And I just was just thirsty to do anything. You know, I started a a sketch group Out of new york um before in living color And I started this group because I noticed with my stand-up. It was very three-dimensional. I have characters my uncle this fat dude

I was like, wait a minute man. I could turn this into some I could take these jokes And start casting it Casting different people. I didn't cast somebody to play my mother. I can cast somebody to play fat tyrone So I knew that I could take I was getting opportunities to stand up But nobody knew me as an actor or anything. I said, but I wanted what's the next level What's the next level of this?

So I said I can write these jokes. I can uh Cast these people. I got friends So I'm gonna start this group start this group called secret society At the time red grant was in the group Uh, arianne punters. Uh, she was a poet. So I was hitting with the poetry side Mike else was in the group good friend of mine jimmy martinez rich mark theobald now writes for uh, he writes for uh The last so g

sherry davie jason on doors. I had a like 12 people and nobody was the most diverse sketch group In new york nobody was doing sketches And we did a showcase. I told my manager the time and his company was just starting And I was like man, we should this is something different. Nobody is doing it. Let's say we can get a night of carolines and showcase the sketches Did I do an act them out?

So, you know, the industry didn't know exactly what it wanted. So some kind of way a lot of the industry came out We did this we did this uh showcase And the next day my manager's phone was ringing off the hook and uh We we had four agencies that wanted to sign us. We I chose to go with apa At the time it was the fourth largest film and television. It's by coast fourth largest film television Agency in the country and they wanted to sign me and somebody else and uh

They didn't want to sign the whole group But because I got there with the group I said i'm not going to sign with you guys unless You sign the whole group And it was the first time motherfuckers had casting calls where you'll see people names. Did you just see secrets? It sounded like wu-tang like You got everybody auditioning whoever wins wins, you know but

that was my relationship with new york and trying to do things to Get seen and get noticed. I tell people all the time you got to Be able to I think in this business you got to be able to do what the next man won't do or haven't thought about It's the only way and if you don't do that you just a regular motherfucker You see uh dolemite. I haven't seen it yet I got to see everything I keep hearing about it

and I keep hearing that And I I don't know the actor was good, but I feel what's resonating is the story of dolemite Of how he was a Maverick, you know first one that's making his own comedy albums Leasing out movie theater. Did you see it yet? Yes. Did you enjoy it? very much very much I enjoyed the black experience, you know the black experience I enjoyed he says something in there that really

It strikes a chord with you, especially when you're an open micro at what point of your open my career He tells michael abt did you ever have anything that nobody ever that nobody wanted? When you try to sell something that nobody wants, you know what it feels like, you know And then you know he you know he just broke it. You know i'm from the 70s, right? And he's like, I gotta make movies with black people like You know funny shit nudity and kung fu right people love kung fu. He was a Wu Tang of comedy Yeah, that makes sense though, man You know and it's just uh, it touched me a lot of ways, you know

Like I said when I came from Cuba the first family and take me in Was an african-american family in the 70s, which is completely different Afro pics with the hand in it. I had a way. That was huge. He was original different strokes I had an afro pic. Oh, yeah. Yeah with the thing and You know, I still remember the mentality and I still remember how On satellites the whole building would have a talent contest You know that we would do a soul train dance with you don't wait before And i'm the only white dude you killed it

You did it you did long just don't beat you win it so especially black people Have a community room in the basement and you would go down and there'd be a hundred black families You'd have to sing or dance or tap dance and I still remember me and uh This kid that I was his last name was williams and I still think about him We won because we sang joe tex. I got you. Oh, oh y'all killed it I did a question but did when when When you had a moment like that Did you think you were going to be in the business of entertainment? Not

Even close. No the the point I want to make from this story is How They entertain themselves this these people were poor You know and then when you went to the house, it was baloney sandwich and they gave me half and The great kool-aid and they gave me a glass and you know, I slept on the floor with the brothers and sisters Whatever the fuck they got I got you know But the thing that strike me the most about it Was

The love Nobody else would like me when I was a little kid Accept this and I still remember walking into those projects And there'd be some thugs, but you had to be a real motherfucker too. I'm five years old. You was a real five year old You said I don't know how to be a real motherfucker I didn't know they felt something about you know walking this kid and they were and they would go, you know What the fuck was his name? Not toray

And they would yell on what we we doing with that white motherfucker bringing him in the building He would go he ain't white bitch. He's cuban They like this he look white though, right? He likes glass that has what's a cuban because it was 1960s right nobody knew nothing about nothing, you know But I learned a lot. No, I did not think anything about the entertainment business It made me fall in love with They taught me about our chief down the drows. They taught me about the supreme's I still remember getting abc

And black people love to love man. I loved it. I loved everything about black people love man black people love to fucking love And black folks man We would not the only race but this is because I know it like our circumstances could be the worst circumstances in the world But we will figure out a way to laugh And we will fucking figure out a way to stay up that therapist couch, you know, I'm saying like we like That's why they they talk about like mental health issues or whatever They always say what black people are afraid to get help whatever they're afraid to get help But some motherfuckers don't need to get help. It's just like you gotta step your coping mechanisms up

We all go fucking crazy. We all have bad days, but it's how you cope with shit You know I'm saying and then and another reason, you know, you know And I'm not speaking for the black community like 100% but Man motherfuckers are so fucking nerves appeals You know when you go talk to that shrink you leave it with a prescription You go get something son If you like the average black person if you sit down with a motherfucking shrink long enough He's going to find you a prescription

And the prescription could possibly be trying to cope with shit. I know that mental health shit is real But how motherfuckers cope you can't suck nothing up Everything got a goddamn acronym You know I'm saying like oh man, this water is warm. He suffered a ps water syndrome You know what every time he gets every time he drinks water. He's just crazy He goes here's a pill his pill Black people been through so much you have to learn how to laugh You could be miserable and upset all the time. No, that was what I was getting to that

What I saw in those projects Early on in the 70s Do you know what memories? Rehearsed those memories. What's that? And why so? I felt that black love again. I felt that human your sketches with fit with did you did that resonate through? So the performance of it like just to kind of you know, I'm dave since 94. I know dave since Robin Hood met in tights from the boston comic yo, joey. It's so funny. You said that and

And this is no Shade or anything and this is about when you finally on the right team or you build the right team Dave Chappelle probably had 11 pilots. Yes. He did a lot of people don't know this company's pilot boy Yes, he did 11. He was Getting shots and shots and shots ABC had him in a white dude had a pilot jim burr No, another but one of the big time white dudes I don't know what a big time white dude is good looking like dude like great kaneer I'm not sure at some point ask him

But the point 98 97 they kept trying to make davis star from earlier. Oh, they loved him He was he was a golden. He was he was the one and uh, you know for 11 pilots We're talking about 11 pilots And he probably wouldn't even do a comedy 11 years at the time It's company that pilot boy and it was this little show and just You know following up what you said. It's about the love and how you felt. It was something about

this show It was something about the connection Neil Brennan had with charlie murphy. It was something about charlie murphy It was something about me. It was something about anthony barry It was something about all of those motherfucking background people that was on that show It was something that was love and it felt like my focus was trying. It wasn't about I didn't be getting paid this and I need top billing because what nobody getting paid shit The only thing my focus was doing was trying to create the most the funniest shit you could and for you to say that That's how it felt, bro. You know I'm saying like even when davis and neil had reservations

About the shoulders. Oh this and that and I used to predict How the radius is going to be I was like, man This shit about to blow and they was like because they've been through it. They dealt with rejection I don't know that I'm still like that three knee your nut. You talking about like ha ha. I'm like, man I'm like, oh, I'm telling y'all and the reason why I knew it Is because this is why I knew it was gonna blow because I heard Niggas in the hood talking about dave chappelle And what I mean by that day chappelle when he first started he came out the gate mainstream

Fat boys loved them colleges loved them Super smart people love them But in a and I think in a black community, they didn't get him yet You know, they didn't get him yet But it was just something about this show It was like when they started popping into barbershops When they started popping on on on on on the block and shit like that That's when I was like, man, this is something special

You know, this is something special and I was like because dave had every audience But that really really street shit. It didn't connect it. Not that you Need that but it's something about Uh, brian tucker. It was just something about the team that they put together that understood all of that and connected with every part of it I think that was one of the things that made that show so dope. How many seasons two and a half Yeah, and then and then you know not to take with dave's like, uh It's easy writing for superstar And dave was a superstar

dave's type of superstar where you can have shitty writers And he's still gonna flip it, you know, so you got that combination You already had a game and then you got a team of people to put it together And that dude was like, you know We we worked together. I remember one particular time we were um, it was Seeing what patrice o'neill. He was playing pitbull. He was one of the original player haters It was rich boss me dave and charlie murphy and yoshi the asian dude And um, we were working on 16 hours

Man, we was tired I don't never think I would ever say I was I was I was joked out. I was joked to fuck out And we had to look at this board of pictures and shit and and just roast them And nobody you know, we was looking like this patrice's back to gas out patrice and dave been roasting each other All day before we were rolling the cameras. We got the cameras rolling Everybody gasped out of jumps it was just pause It was a picture of rosy o' tonal and dave said she looks like she wears Draws with dickholes in the back, right?

Yo, you see this laugh joey this laugh was like Where the fuck did he get this from? And that was him all the time And that the same way we talked about being in comedy clubs when you go hard and let the shit far way far That's how it was when we were working on the show, you know, he would do something And then everybody did the creative will go and then everybody's like, oh, what about this? What about this and then shit would just pop pop pop pop pop pop pop But that month always came through. I was gonna one thing you learned from dave as a comic

um Really being connected To who you are and your true self And not just on the stage just in life You know i'm saying like what is your true self and being your true self? And then like, you know, it's hard to emulate this but having your calm Why you do it? I don't think I ever If ever even seen dave raise his voice

You know and just I watch him as a performer and I'll say like I love I say he's like, um Tom Brady And when I say that like he knows how to lay in the pocket You know, I mean he don't scramble like chaotic like, uh, you know, like me Like I I say I'm like Michael vikkish

I'm saying fuck that. I'm trying to run that shit down the two hole every time. I know we got a pass play But I'm gonna run this bitch. I'm gonna run it But he's like when I say Tom Brady get in the pocket The calm is there wait wait wait wait and could take a hit at the Boom and he's going to touchdown you know and um like he's like a Dave is just a good person, man. You like a good person. You feel that I travel with him people always like

Even with me unfortunate sometimes Because the work I've done on chapel show Easily probably overshadows anything I've ever done So do I get the credit for being on HBO's the wire? Do I get the credit for being on the corner? Do I get the credit of you and I both had that muffled gang say it's cameo spider-man shit

You know I said I've done a lot of stuff, but that for something about that show is just Where everybody Everybody connects to that shit very interesting something you said I had the honor of working with Dave What what years was it a chappelle show that had to be that was like somewhere around 2002 2003. Yeah I had the honor to work with Dave in 99 in Miami now The Miami improv at the time was in coconut grove. I remember I closed that club down. Yeah, not that close it down But I was the last one before yeah, I'm there next week and they had some yo, they got that cuban rest you down there

I can't wait to get back a new place. Yeah a new place and not not you're talking about you're talking about the old one in coconut Grove no, I'm talking about I'm excited about the new one But I know coconut grove and this reason why I want to say and I don't mean to cut you off But that was one of the best places for Because they catered to the cuban. They had that motherfucking argentine is taking shit, son I'm like, this is what the improv tried the argentine. Yes. They had they had the fish with the stuffed They had a very cuban influenced me. So I know you about to have a ball and the italian restaurant downstairs Yes, yeah, I remember the fucking frozen drinks the frozen didn't the fucking white shit's walking down a little strip down

With the salad bars I don't think I ever motherfucking was in love with smoothies and shit So I saw the white kids walking down here with them with the motherfucker. Let me lose the shit But monday and tuesday at the man at the Miami improv Was african-american night marvin dixon. Uh, so marvin dixon would give away tickets Now with a phone without a phone because you know, he's a police clothes off Yeah, yeah the tickets. Yeah, give tickets out on the way out

and Not to sound, you know, whatever it's It's a different type of brother marvin. No, no the the tickets he was giving away Will liberty city motherfucking brothers, you know, they ain't playing right and I still remember opening up for chappelle And some of those free ticket guys would come up Three minutes they walked out Really? So the audience had 250 people in it

100 whites 100 latinos cubans And maybe 50 people 49 new dave chappelle was but the ones from deaf jam monday That's what that's the point. I'm saying they would walk out. Yeah walk out on day And I'm going I don't understand this because you was the reason why your your your mind was like what I say Everybody not ready for everything, you know, I'm saying that's what I'm saying It was when the chappelle should popped off that the hood started getting a connection and I'm telling you I used to be around he's like a lot of it like motherfuckers and knows like the death The the real real gangster nights a lot of motherfuckers didn't want to think about their comedy

Dave makes you think about the joke They make you think about the joke. Dave is not gonna be pop pop out. He makes you think about it He's always been that he's always been from 17 to 16. He was funny, but socially conscious Your motherfuckers been drinking Hennessy and eating them lemon pepper chicken. They don't want to hear about that. Shit They don't want to motherfucking think like that Like I say, there's no shade or whatever Anybody knows that coming up, but that chappelle showed that's when it seemed like Everything connected I for him. I still remember

Doing a Tuesday night there Because Marvin would always hire me right I was the feature act So Marvin would give me a hundred a show for Monday and Tuesday the early just to take care of Marvin was a solid little brother Yeah, and I still remember being in there on a Tuesday night And chris rock walking in that motherfucker Madonna And chris rock was on stage And then brothers weren't going for it. They had forks and spoons and they would hit the glasses Oh, man, you gotta understand this means get the marvin. Yo, you understand marvin dixon

Marvin dixon's rooms and bruce bruce rooms were First off it was where's bruce bruce had more with his room bruce bruce room was in um and was Atlanta Was Atlanta was Atlanta. No bruce room was Florida one of them motherfucking southern joints, but they had the two top of marvin dixon where everybody knew because the reason why because

Marvin never really stabs the room as a comedy room. He stabs as a spectacle Like he used to Tell the fact that he had 300 standing ovations in a row You know how easy it is to get a stand ovation if at the end of the song you drop Don't stop get it get it and a man strips down to a motherfucking thong and start dancing They're not laughing with you. They're laughing at you And that's what he established in that room. So Uh, I could probably tell you people that ripped that room and people that didn't rip that room

Everybody's wet and fit for that But those were I remember bruce bruce told me one time in his room. He said look, man I'm gonna get your money now. Like we was doing the drug deal. He told me get your money now Just do your timmings and get the fuck out of here to door that way you know like Those guys they built a room about round their personality so much It was hard for anybody to do good and i'm in miami, uh bruce bruce. What was it miami? miami i'm in i'm in bruce bruce room

And uh, i i said something I said, yeah, all y'all stripper bitches in here Joe, I did not realize that how respected of a job that was Like they looked at me like oh, oh, we gotta get him out of here. He talked about our motherfucking livelihood And those rooms was just they was like those those was fast rooms If you didn't like you said you used to come out and just start fucking them up I tell people then when you get after you've been doing while you learn you're like, okay It's gonna be a tough room this way. I got to do I got to make an example out of somebody

I'm sorry, sir. I know no disrespect, but I'm about to tell your ass All right I gotta do it and all you get a couple of oh no, he didn't and then next thing you know Bow they listen now because of you I'm gonna call in next week and go to the de-raise room. Yeah, do it because it's been Ten years i'm sitting here looking at you going. Why is it that? Well at the store, I would always go up for you guy would always just come looking for me and go We got a five-minute gap to get in there real quick

Those rooms challenge join this life and like it's so many reasons It's so you can come up with a million reasons why you don't want to go to or whatever But for me and you know like I work eight clubs now You know i'm saying I do the store laugh factor. I do everything. I'm the mark. I'm a marquee motherfucker But it's just something in me every once in a while. I just got to go do it When I go to new york, it's so and then another thing I feel like you like Because of some of the success I've had when my resume speaks probably more than my bank account does um

When I go to like when I'm in brooklyn and I go these little all spots They look people give me They look at me like Fuck you doing here. I'm like I'm a comic and I started here And it's and it's just and like for me to go these little spots like they be freaking out joey like oh, shit I'm like, man. I'm never gonna. I'm never ever going to forget What these rooms did to me did for me these rooms pay my rent

You know I'm saying these rooms gave me a place to practice These rooms was everything to me and I'm never going to stop never was I remember when Dave Chappelle had his residency at uh at the Ready to see the musical 6,500 people like 17 days in a row Two nights and I was questioning shit two nights after Standing up 6,500 people I get in the car with my man and drive to brooklyn to perform for

30 people in brownsville And gave the motherfuckers the same shit And to be quite honest be quite honest felt better about those 35 motherfuckers They're saying I ain't think yo man do it get a drink me. It's just As much as we do this shit. We always got to do something to make our soul feel good People always tell us you make you make me feel good. You know, it's like therapy. I need that. Y'all don't know motherfucker y'all out therapy It's mine It's mine too, man

I can feel Why why the motherfuckers working night? I am not working at night. I'm going to see my therapist motherfucker It is you motherfucker. My friend fat doctor And his health isn't doing that well. I love this. So he's a mentor to me a mentor to tony was mentioned to mark lawns Really good guys very popular Uh On a dc circuit and he used to tell me donnail. That's our that's our life. That's our shit. He said we deal with regular life

he said but We get on that stage we put that shit on the side of the stage We do our shit Don't go away. We pick it back up and we deal with it when we get off But that's our shit That's our shit. You know john with the spoon pass You know Everybody's like

I was just talking to him. I was just talking to him because that's how he worked That's his life People like we didn't have to but this is like this is our fuel. What else do we know? Dave asked me one day he said He said when is your tour over? I said never nigga When i'm dead When I died when I died they could be like he just did a spot In the belly room

What else do we do? I love The fact that if I don't get on stage for two three nights I go into a different world in my head. I can feel it. I couldn't get on stage. Yep Like I couldn't get on stage Tuesday. I couldn't get down there because my leg was still swollen Because I fell the other night But fucking Wednesday night I went down and had a blast the belly room just had a blast because It's who we are. I gotta do it every couple days. I can do you know, I couldn't a week or something

I'm like, uh, yeah, no, I'll be like what the fuck is going on like and especially Like right now I'm going through because I did the degenerate shit. When did you tape? I taped about two months ago It comes out of there a d7 31st. Oh That's a good one. I did that. I did I did some stuff where I didn't gave a lot of my bangers to tv You know I'm saying so now I'm back in the back cave right now I don't want to see them faces. You know what I'm saying? I don't I don't want to see that face like I heard

Some people don't give a fuck about that, but I do I do so I got and now but you like I get off. I'm like I watch you do that shit too. I'm like goddamn but the thing I feel like I don't know When I watch you perform like You you're so strong on who you are on stage You're so strong with who you are on stage

Do I feel like a nigga could throw a lightsaw bottle up there and you'll catch that bitch and it'll become 20 minutes You know I'm saying like everybody don't have that skill set to you tell the mother go up there and just Make something happen None of that shit Make something happen The motherfuckers gonna get so fucking nervous Because motherfuckers do not want to trust that what supposed to make you up there is that you are a funny motherfucker You're just a funny motherfucker

Some motherfuckers are pen and paper and I don't knock it but some of them are just funny Just like that motherfucker on his worst night. He's shitting on your best nights My land great nigga Yo, my land great. I still fuck y'all up. Yo, I didn't want to sit down. Yo this leg but fuck that I was still smoke y'all motherfuckers. How many how many how many years you've been doing? Uh, she's going on 30 20s No, no, no because I'm 29. I'm trying to backtrack time probably like 26 25 23 25 25

Yep, how do you feel now stronger than you ever felt Joey and you still wait till the 35 year mark Like I look at Chris and Joe Rogan. Those motherfuckers been doing 30 years. Yo, yeah, this way. This way. This is crazy After 25 years and I'm not talking about 25 Yeah, where's the slump or he was whacked from 92 to 93. I'm talking about 25 years of being a ripper And I I tell this I still feel like I get better every year every year every goddamn show see it I feel it. I feel it on stage and I'm talking about, you know, motherfuckers coming to you like Muffins like this. Oh, shit

Yo, that motherfucker funny. You be like, but it's it's not going to stop You know, I'm man every year and I'm not again. I'm talking about every I'm talking about awful like last year I was killing shit where people like, okay, that's it It's we it's always got to find something else Well, we evolved I love evolve and I love writing There's nothing worse than Being excited to see a comic and watch them. He does a tremendous set

And also one day you get an email. He's back in town and you go there and he does the exact same set You just lost me forever because you're telling me that in a year Nothing happened. Nothing happened in your life. You didn't even take a shit man. I yo, I'd say The best compliment The most appreciated compliment I get Is when the motherfuckers come up to you, so I'm saying this my fifth time seeing you They ain't coming five times if you ain't flipping. Yeah, if you ain't flipping it, they ain't come Like I don't even like to go like I got to go to Atlanta in january

I won't go to nashville Right in april Because half of those atlanta people gonna drive from nashville. I already know it. I gotta go to dc. I do dc Uh, thanks. Give me weekend This is the tough not the tough. This is the this weekend coming. Yeah, that's coming. Yeah this weekend coming because uh, I um That's my hometown. That's like been my traditional show for like the last so friday saturday sunday Do you see friday saturday sunday? Yeah, this been my traditional show, you know But it's so challenging because you went motherfuckers that you grew up with start coming to your shows

It's a different level of anklers I know your mama, you know And then you start hearing people yell out today a donnell like the only way a motherfucking high school good you like Oh, he was in fucking you was in gym class with me And I do that every year like right now. I gotta I gotta I gotta do a remix man. I know We gonna see what happened You know, I'm we gonna see what happened because this I was just there

I just did birch me a while ago and then I just exhausted so much. I'm just in that place where Once I just got to get up Something's gotta pop and then you know, once you get that groove you just write you like damn that's fucking 20 minutes right there It's so crazy. You know Right now the back of your mind you're in hell And you'll be in hell for another month. Then you'll come up with four minutes There's something, you know, right rock. There's something This guy does something now you got six minutes

But then you put together a 10 minute run, right? And guess what you could add three from a joke you have from a year ago. Yes, when you start putting together You like this oh, oh Like this is when I the my last set that I had I had to chop it up for Netflix and do some other stuff But I was like Man, this is gonna be my dope hour But the nobody was coming to me for hour. It was coming with 15 minutes here 20 minutes here I'm like, man. I ain't saving shit. I said the way I'm gonna get an hour is smash it

So like even on the Netflix joint. I literally took 45 minutes of shit Trimmed all the fat off and got straight to a pop-up pop And I had to sacrifice it was like, well, you should have set it for your Netflix But I said Netflix didn't give me an hour. They gave me 15 minutes And that didn't give me the other one but that and I had man. I had this closing where I had the beginning the middle I had a callback. I had a tag and then my last joke. I had three callbacks No, four callbacks From the entire set. So it was like bop-bop and at the end bam, bam, bam

And I dismantled the set It's gonna force me to go harder though So December 31st and December 31st And I'm going on to with martin too. I'm doing um Martin Lawrence. This is going to be so nostalgic Martin Lawrence lit his fuck to her and he's he's doing 29 cities. I'm doing like nine of them uh, earthquake d-ray little a little rail uh

Jay ferrell uh, Tommy Davidson Um, it's a mix of everything a mix of different people. I got seven days But for me to grow up like looking at martin Lawrence. It's like a bucket list shit Just yeah, just to be able to shake his hand come and order it off stage. It's gonna be dope Good for you, man. You got a website where they can find donnell rollins.com donnell rollins and joy You know, I've been coming under uh, I'm glad we had this type of interview I've been coming under a lot of attack on that. I talked too much

And I've heard people saying I don't know when to shut up and I talked too much So I've taken that energy and I've started my own podcast So I could talk my motherfucking ass off. It's called the down there rolling show Um, it's be out. You should probably can get it right now. I'm going to do the same for that Uh, anywhere. I'm so bootleg. All right. Yo, I want you to check it out. I know you get sick of it, but I just it just I'm excited about it. I know I'm gonna do it with you It feels yeah. Yeah week after yo, it's fun. You're gonna love me and kate but it's just

I watched it yesterday and I was like, this is different. It just feels so real And so dope even our chemistry You know I'm saying because you see her when you first see you see a pretty face, right? And then you get a couple a couple of minutes. You see a tomboy and just a cool motherfucker. She's cool. I talk very night Yeah, she's dope. I she's so she speaks so highly of morning Some nights I talked to three. She's like she talked to you so much. I'm like, bitch. I might want you No, we talk a lot her and I are like Yeah, you mean a lot of her life. I could tell every time she

Listen, man, we also have the mutual form of the violin Eliza I love her with all my heart Guys like you and me we need we need and it man that girl Eliza when I first before I moved here It would be like I would have to do an audition or something. I didn't know nowhere around She would come and take me to auditions. Damn. They're living out her car You know I'm saying and I've seen her go up and down in her life. I've never seen her down. I've never seen a frown I've always I've always known her to be like

It's just part of it. We keep it moving. We keep it moving. I love her tour. That's why I put her on the podcast I love her. I love it at that and that violin she a beast. Oh my gosh. I made a play I told her to bring it. I told yo I was like Man, I talked to because she talked to me, right? She was like, I was like, I know you're talking about she's like I was like, oh, I was I want to say this not the bad way I was like, bitch, if you don't got there take that motherfucker violin and rock that shit. She fucking she killed it, right? She made me cry. Yeah, she made me fucking cry. But bro, you're always welcome on my bank. I appreciate it, man This is family here anytime you kill me at the store your energy

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