Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #810 - Gene Kirkland

Episode Date: August 5, 2020

Gene Kirkland, a renowned photographer who has made his living taking pictures at live shows, behind the scenes, and at photoshoots for some of the top musicians of our time. He has worked with Black Sabbath, DIO, and Aerosmith to name just a few, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio.  The video Joey mentions at the beginning of the podcast featuring a young Gene with Jimmy Page and Aerosmith backstage can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAV2TfzZXJE   This podcast is brought to you by:   Sheath Underwear - A new kind of underwear designed with separate compartments for maximum support and performance. Go to www.sheathunderwear.com and use code JOEY for 20% off your first order and a 100% money back guarantee.   Onnit.com - Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.

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With Aerosmith backstage Castle Donnington Don and I Engie to and 1990 do that right now YouTube Jimmy Page with Aerosmith 1990 just put that in real quick. This video's gonna come up. Go ahead. I'm gonna give you a couple minutes How are you Jean awesome? How are you feeling beautiful brother? It is a fucking honor to have the photographer of the rock stars in my fucking studio Do you understand me and you showed up with a fucking envelope you show up with a beautiful picture of

Guns and roses walking on to the brotherhood 19 whatever when they shot Paradise City Video which I'm gonna take back to Jersey. That's gonna be right behind my fucking thing from now on it was for you Man, the weirdest connection that I have the guns and roses in my life. But anyway, what's happening in your world? Everything all things good man, and you're busy now that the tour season is over. Well No tour season right now, but I'm going through my catalog going through all my catalog while there's you're saying you're trying to get your Website together. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going through I Found pictures that I don't remember even taking I've got little Richard pictures black and white

Live little Richard. I don't even remember taking it. I don't know. I didn't get it I don't know for a clue where I was at I'm finding stuff that I Pretend I just literally just found and I don't know trust me. I'm moving. I found some shit. That's crazy. Yes I found pills here. I don't know who left them. I went behind. I went in the fucking record case Jean they were like Perkis. I don't even know who left them in a baggie and I threw them out I didn't really throw them out. I brought them home when I put them in the jacket to give to the homeless shelter I'm gonna give it to some homeless guys. Let's put that jacket on put his hand in there and find some

He won't be homeless for a while. He won't be homeless. At least he'll be homeless for the night fucked up But one of them fell on the floor I didn't know what it was last night took it. I was fucked up last night Whatever fell on the floor last night two nights ago and I picked it up and I ate it with the stars I think that's why you were fucked up because the stars I was fucked up that night. I'm one of those guys might look at the pill You're gonna go to pill find it take a chance Columbus You'll find the pill it's gotta be and I know who left them

I remember the guy's name who left a batch here a fucking Vikings and Perkis sets and fucking all that leverage of whatever so put on this video leave I hope you guys have tuned into the video There's three minutes and 36 when I gotta watch the whole thing I just want to show you guys who the fuck is in the studio Just so you write to get right to set the mood we gonna put it on you. Oh, yeah Are you gonna finger bang me to death here? It's fucking Wednesday We open up if you watching this video to Steven Tyler and Joe Perry

Over a board just discussing stuff up behind them. You see a young quirky kid with glasses a beard picking his ear With a camera and you can see he's anxious. He's trying to fucking figure something out of you He keeps moving back and forth, but here's Joe Perry, you know persona of a fucking rock star now You see the guy go behind Joe Perry. He's trying to get a shot of these guys They're both shirtless. If it was COVID season, they'd be in jail. There's no social distancing There's no mask. Look at him. He's got fucking shark teeth by this point The man that's sitting in this chair this fucking legend is shooting them Ba ba ba ba ba ba ba these guys are talking and who walks in the motherfucking room

But Satan's nephew Jimmy Page now my man doesn't know what the fuck to do He's going crazy. Look at it and the anxiety. He's trying to get a shot from the back He's picking up a different fucking camera You got to get a line of coke. Look at him now. He's got the fucking super lens That's who's in this fucking chair right now ladies and gentlemen So if you're watching this fucking video now Jimmy Page is Telling that real Smith they're going over something like what's the set list? Maybe you should put this here and this poor young photographer is going back to get a different lens now

Because he's just put a lens in this pocket. He took the eight ball just in case somebody decides to steal it He's walking over. He's trying to set a shot up. He's putting this fucking thing. This is the man that's sitting in this Chair right now. So if you watch this video right now, he's in the right walks right to you and Finally finally as as as Steven Tyler unpicks his fucking ear They come together and they take a fucking shot. He's shooting. He's shooting. You're watching this. He's shooting This is 19 fucking 90. This is 30 fucking years ago. This is who this man is you could turn this off What's happened Jean Kirkland Wow these motherfuckers don't know

This is how you come on. This is how you show up to a party. Yep. How old were you then? twenty Seven twenty and this was your life at this time. Yep. Yep. That was a that was a daily That was a another day at the office and you would play these how many fucking times a year Would you be hired to do these things? Oh all the time? I mean I I that was a Saturday show I was home by Monday and Working with another band probably doing something with Ozzy or or whoever and then off again

I was only there for the weekend that they fly me in come in and say You know do this for hang out with us for a weekend, you know blah blah blah and then come back home Now when we spoke the other day you spoke about Your high school days how you learn how to take pictures with an oatmeal box. Yeah lens and your teacher You know you work for him part time at a shop or something like that. Yeah, take it from there. What happened after that you You were gonna go to photography school. Yeah, your passion. I was gonna go to me and my buddy. We're gonna go to Arizona Tucson I think it's the I get a mixed up. It's the u of a a of you whatever it is the university and

That's in Tucson. We stayed there two weeks decided to You know, hey, this is gonna be great and on the way back home I was almost killed in a car wreck 730 in the morning July 31st 1980 just two and a half three weeks out of high school and It was almost over my my buddy fell asleep at the wheel and we went over a cliff and

It was in the middle of nowhere. I think Kingman, Kingman, Arizona and a truck driver happened to be on the road going on the other highway and saw it and was able to radio the the dispatch to get the proper authorities the all the medical attention everything in the middle of desert and It was it was it was life-changing because

We were due to come back after the summer and go back to school there, but I my plans changed so That's where I am now because I couldn't go back. It was impossible for me to leave I had my neck broken my back broken my legs My right arm my shoulder my wrists my hands just a whole mess and They took me to a veterinarian To stitch up my head because I was just bleeding. I mean so much I had hair down to my waist and it was just matted and I think a hundred and eighty stitches had to be given to me and

Then they landed a plane right next to the veterinarian and then flew me back to Phoenix and How long were you in Phoenix for a recovery? It seemed like forever, but it's probably about three or four months And then from there You told me you flew up closer to your parents. They found the rehab facility Yeah, they found out that one of the best rehab Facilities around the country is about five minutes from where I was living my parents house because I was only 18 so They let me come home and do rehab they'd have

me go to rehab a couple times a week and then have a lady come over and Pretty much try to put me back together again and teach me how to Walk and so you everything were you paralyzed or like what? No, I should have been I actually know I was paralyzed for maybe about a week or a couple of days I don't remember but they I remember the doctors kept running a It looked it looked like a pizza cutter, you know those pizza cutters and everything else

They run them down your feet and I never felt it and then one day I could feel it And I said this this kind of tingles so I was able to get my my feelings back But yeah, I was paralyzed for a little bit when you were at the recovery house and you were in the rehab What were you thinking about your life? What did you see at that point? future What am I gonna do now? I already had it planned out. So it's like now what how long am I gonna have to have this? The halo brace. I mean, you know, they had this Giant cages. I still have the little marks on my head

Where they had to torque down and screw it back into my skull But yeah, I was my my friends had a good time with me with that. They called me iron man Cage man cage boy. They decorated. They got me drunk and made sure that I had all kinds of decorations on this Thing roll pretty much looked like a zombie robot. When did photography come back into your life at that point? well after After I recovered which was pretty fast. I Got on the phone no cell phones. No Faxes for me. No nothing. I just went through the yellow pages of the directory of

music people like all the record company people and stuff and and Didn't have anything to show them but just bootleg pictures. I used to take bootleg pictures in the concerts. So I would like sneak my camera in and I would buy scalper tickets up front like the first five rows I'd have to pay a whopping 20 $40 for those good seats $40 for fifth row rush tickets or whatever I got and and so I would take the pictures myself develop them and

put together a little portfolio, which was Just disgraceful, but that's how it starts used to start little by little and and One guy gave me a shot at a record label and he gave me a He gave me a photo pass because I was working for my photography teacher he had moved from high school where I was Doing my photography then and then after my accident I found out that he had moved to college a community college

And so I got in touch with him. He gave me a part-time job So I could set up all the photography Equipment and all that stuff for the students to do the developing and all that stuff the trays I had to put the trays out get mix all the chemicals My hands smelled of Stuff called fixer and deck tall and everything else. So anyway they had a they had a little college paper and so I use that as my end and

I got a photo pass to shoot the band the outlaws now the outlaws were opening up for black Sabbath and I believe my nose mob rose tools. Yeah, and I Shot that and I Haught for some reason just loved the show. I love Ronnie's performance so much I mean, I've always been a big deal fan since elf and rainbow and everything else so I Hung out with three other guys backstage and and he came out spent I mean it was starting to Drizzle a little bit and start raining and then but he was out there and just talking to us giving each of

us really good time sign my backstage pass and From then on a Guy hooked me up with his phone number, which I thought he was bullshitting. I thought this is not his number He said after the tour. Well after that. Yeah after the tour was over and And I said I want to I want to get in touch with him again how can I do that and this guy who had worked on that Sabbath tour was a friend of mine and He gave me this number and he said this is Ronnie's home number. I said, no Nobody just gives you a home number of a guy. So I had that number in my pocket my wallet for six months and on

Thanksgiving 19 1981 I think Thanksgiving I I just downed a beer and at two in the afternoon. I called the number and the man answered the phone Ronnie James D. Oh, I said Really? Yeah, this is Ronnie and I could recognize his voice again, and he said yeah So I just blurted it out a whole mess of I don't know what I said to him, but he said listen man Actually, he said listen kid. He always called me kid listen kid We're gonna have our meal pretty soon

But why don't you call the office next week the following week and talk to Wendy his manager and wife and Let's see what we can do. Let's see what can get you hooked up something and I did I didn't call Monday I called Tuesday didn't want to be too anxious. So I kind of held back a little bit and I called and She was busy and she called me back and the bullet so we ended up getting a meeting and You know I've had me in her office and so I shot one of her bands that she was working with called rough cut And Ronnie was supporting and helping rough cut because he would jump on stage and sing a couple songs with them So it's kind of like I was she's like, you know work with my other band and we'll get you and with Ronnie and all that stuff

The next thing I know I'm in the studio shooting some holy diver photos Holy diver his he was he just loves this Vivian Campbell tremendous. Oh, he'd left Sabbath and Started his own thing. I was living in a snowmass village and I bought that cassette I think I remember how clean that album was and how tremendous he was crisp and I wasn't I wasn't into mob rules But heaven and hell was a brilliant fucking out and he was brilliant for that. How did he impact your life like? Because I know he made a big impact. I mean he took you to the next level basically he opened every He was the key to open to every door. I had I mean he gave me my first shot. I If it wouldn't have been him, I don't know who it would have been or how long it would have taken but

He Besides being an awesome awesome great great singer He's equally a great guy. I mean he would he would just constantly ask me Did I give you the good pictures you needed? Do you have everything you needed and I remember going to his house to take some portraits of him and Everybody calls me different names Jean Jean the photo machine Jean Jean the dancing machine Jean Jean the Wacking machine or what I whatever it is, but He called me Jean Jean the lens cap machine because I was so nervous that when I went to take his portraits He was he was just

Rock like this is the first time first time I ever did anything showed up. Yeah, I went to his house Beautiful story. Yeah, and I'm in his backyard. He's all in nice black shirt jeans Just just like something from the 70s just awesome framed everything right and Put my camera up to my face and I something's wrong something's something's not I'm starting this in seconds. I started to sweat like what's wrong. What's wrong? He goes you got to take the limbs cap off before you could take a photograph dude So I felt pretty much like a

Take so I took the lens cap off and put it my pocket and From then on it's like hey lens cap. How you doing today? I mean at the shows. It's like you're ready to go and It's just amazing one of before he passed away one of his last messages to me was lens caps rule Now what happened with the hearing aids you were telling me? Oh, oh Well hearing aid was done If people remember there was a thing called we are the world where all these 84 yeah, all these little pop stars got together and they did a charity thing well Wendy and Ronnie decided to do a heavy metal version of

their thing and say well we can do it too and it was called a hearing aid and They pulled together people like Ted Nugent Rob Halford all the deal members people from Night Ranger Some iron the two iron main guitarists George's Lynch from docking just Some guys from bluish to cult just that everybody got together and and did their version and So that was hearing aid and that was a nice

Couple of days working in the studio around the clock all night There was about four photographers and we all just kind of went in different rooms and different places and just took pictures of everything That went on so now that you were mentioning to me you also worked for Rolling Stone when did they come into the picture? Oh rolling. Oh, you do like freelance work for them. Yeah, Rolling Stone magazine. Yeah, yeah I mean once I started getting published in different places and everything else People would find out that I have a picture of this this person of this and I remember When I was working with Sam Keneson Sam Keneson had just Did this video wild thing? I think that was a wild thing with with all the major

Arrowsmith and and rat and I mean just all kinds of band members were in that video But there's a picture I have where Sam and Jessica Han because that was a major big thing And they were they were face-to-face just about to kiss and I grabbed a picture of it and they thought that was great And so Rolling Stone use that and once they use that I got calls for for other things too and One of them one of them was a great assignment. I had was shooting Johnny Cash at the Viper room. I Got a call saying okay. We're not sure if this is happening or not But we'll let you know and this is like four in the afternoon. So nobody knew what was really gonna happen, but

Johnny Depp he still owned the Viper room and I Got the call saying Johnny Cash you got to shoot this and it was just him one spotlight and his acoustic guitar and It was packed. I mean it was packed full of people and I

Remember somebody bumping me from behind, you know how people get real crazy and they want to get close Well, I kept elbowing this guy and the gut saying back off man turned around It was Tom Petty Tom Petty was just trying to everybody was trying to get in tight just to you know Get real close and I didn't know who it was. I just bang bang crazy was a strip back Oh, man, it was a different world. Yeah, oh Completely different. I mean it's it was My greatest times were all the 80s and into some of the 90s I mean, when did it go down hell you think because I got here in

97 the coconut teaser was still open and there was an open mic there for comedy on coconut I see you with the stuff on the floor still or yeah, the shitty. I mean, you know, I've been driving past that place for the last 10 years and I always banged my head on the wall like what the fuck used to be in here. I was an open mic Lee Where was it coconut teaser was right when you make the turn on Sunset Laurel Canyon to Sunset, okay? You make that right there Now you see a bunch of limos there waiting for because now it's like a fancy schwancy. It's something. Yeah, but in the old days on Monday We on the walk to the comedy store We knew the guy who ran that so that was the first open mic

But then they told me that the guy who owned that was responsible for like Like great bands or something Lenberg. I don't know what his fucking name was Never owned the coconut teaser gave somebody a big break Well, all the people that own different different venues or bars like whiskey and the Roxy and all those things They always gave people, you know comics or bands, you know a good start. I mean, it's I can't remember their names off the top I mean, it just seems like there was no fucking place a glam The coconut teaser was a dime. It was it was just like a regular open mic It had sawdust on the floor on the floor to help

I did it like maybe ten times on a Monday night just on the walk just to get light It's just a set of just a number so I would go in there. There'd be eight people Nine of them comics, you know, yeah, you would just go up there and then stop at the liquor store Yeah, that is right in the corner. Yeah corner. Yeah, you got a bottle of something walk by that put chateau my month And head to the comedy store. Yeah fucking old days and stuff. Yeah, I mean I Didn't really remember until I went to see a few people there and it's like I didn't know it was all different variety, but they had bands playing and then Comics there and then sometimes they mixed them together

Sometimes it would be a comic opening up for a band or you know, it's you know something like that So, you know, it was it was crazy the 80s were very very very Well, they were awesome to me. I mean people really don't understand the magnitude of The 70s and 80s They don't understand the freedom They don't understand they really don't and I noticed it because I'm so 80 And I will always be so 1980 well because you had to work for everything. I've never changed my head, dude

I've never gotten a tattoo. I've never pierced myself Hey, brother, brother, I don't have a society. I don't allow to do anything. Yep Like my society like if you had a tattoo, you went to prison or you went to the service That's it. Don't show up with a tattoo because you climbed the hill. Don't stab you the fucking neck My mom's older than you but she's she still thinks tattoos are for criminals and sailors. Yeah, that's it criminals and sailors You know, it's so weird how The 80s was so You know when the movie the Molly crew movie came out

Netflix the dirt movie. Yeah, it opens up with a chick get eaten out and she squirts across the room Oh, yeah, you know, this was as opposite as me too as Can be the 80s, but nobody's complaining Nobody really complained from those women if you really think about it In fact, Ray Don Chung raised her hand up about six months ago and said she fucked Mick Jagger when she was 16 But that he didn't impose herself on that means she's not even mad She would go down there looking for you know, there's 16 year olds. They go down there They go down there that you know, what a foolish and Michael's friends used to tell me in fact

Her son is some famous rock star That gave her an envelope and said, you don't know me You don't want to know me. I got another family. This ain't gonna happen His three three hundred thousand dollars to see Thomas father died in the Marines Wow, and she told me some heavy fucking do these stories of going You know sneaking out throwing a dress out the window With a mini skirt walking down lower. Okay, you know walks down lower. Okay, and everybody then Everybody did this sneaking out the window doing whatever. I

Never I look I walked down lower canyon. I see people. I say I pray for I'm like he's not he's gonna be dead on the walk up on the way up I'm gonna take lower okay because I know there's gonna be an ambulance And I've seen it I saw a guy one night at 12 from the comic store going up a hill on a 10-speed I'm like this poor bastard. I should just hit him to save me Animation. This is a nightmare. He's gonna have a heart attack when it's having it's a cold water I can hit him and nobody will know nothing. There's no cameras He goes off the cliff down like kettison

Kettison went off the car right there Anyway, who gives a fuck? We're back in my manning another festival We did that people don't remember that was a fucking banger the lineup was a banger was the u.s. Festival No, it's a festival for three days here in 1983. I mean, let's talk about music then. Oh, you shot that well, actually the weird thing is I was still getting started because the Holy Diver record had come out and I was still on the phone calls making you know making the calls You know trying to get meetings with people and everything else well

You had to you had to really do it you had to do two things you had to be out out in the clubs You had to be out there being seen and making the phone calls and doing everything So I would go to see bands see my friends band if I liked them and I knew they were playing I would go check them out at clubs or wherever and so this one guy says to me Hey, man, I want to I want to hire you to shoot some pictures at this big us festival event It's huge. It's gonna be huge. I mean, it's three days long and

He wanted me to shoot it for a poster that him and Some other crackpot guy was gonna make out these posters what he wanted was for me to get in a plane with him a little Cessna plane two-seater and He wanted me to take pictures He wanted something that was not possible to do, but I didn't care I was just gonna do it anyway and try to figure out how to do it He wanted the pictures of the whole sea of people hundreds of thousands of people

And he still wanted to see who was on the stage now. That's pretty impossible to do unless you're hovering over About 400 feet above the crowd. You can't get That sea of people and still see the band. They're little ants So I just did the best I could so we flew he hired me to shoot this poster and we flew out of Van Nuys Airport and We were it was August it was hot and and He's flying there and we're talking and everything else and I told him that yeah, I've

Written in a few Cessnas before and I could fly I don't land. I don't take off But I can I can steer the wheel so It was fun. I flew a little bit there and we started to get near the festival and He was making long circles around so I could lean out through a window and and Take my lens and shoot shoot from from the plane and so He kept getting closer and closer to the ground level and

We were being reported by the I think it's the FCC and We were told that if we do not leave the premises area the flying area We will be escorted down by some jets and So I think it was eight times. We made her a little loop around the whole festival and I shot a whole bunch of stuff and On the way back He started to tell me that he wasn't gonna make it. I said, what do you mean? You're not gonna make it He said I'm gonna pass out and I said the pilot. Yeah. Yeah, and He was just about my age

So I Like ten years ago now I'm gonna go down and like yeah, Randy Rhodes. Yes. No, I'm like, okay. What do you mean? What's wrong? He says well going around circles and that heat because it's hot in the airplane and He says I got vertigo and I said, I said, oh, right. All right He says, do you think you can take the and then all of a sudden the wheel stopped and we were going so I grabbed I grabbed the wheel and and He would go in and out of consciousness

So I Didn't know what to do. All I know is f this f this wake ups. I was slapping him in the face wake up wake up wake up and And you know, you have to keep both hands on the wheel, especially on an airplane so I'm just kind of all over the place and He finally gets on the the the radio and tells Like a sort of a Mayday thing to Burbank. We're gonna fly into Burbank. We left out of Van Nuys, California but we had to land in Burbank that was the closest we were at and

the Control Tower for Burbank Talked to me and I was calling him all kinds of names saying you should be up here. Not me I don't know what I'm doing up here and he just said just relax You're you're flying fine. Just keep your eye on these instruments and all this stuff and So he said you're gonna see a big 25 that was the the lane the runway I was supposed to go on and it was furthest away from all the commercial jets It which happens to be where all the performers were coming in and out of the S festival

They were flying out of that area. They had to stop everybody had to stop So all I remember is seeing is this giant 25. I'll never ever forget that this big 25 and He's saying you're coming too fast. You're coming too slow back off do this I'm saying you should be fucking up here. Not me you why you're why am I here? What am I doing up here? And I was just freaking out and the guy Started to wake up a little bit and then he'd go back down. It's like, oh man Freaking me out. And so I had my hand and trying to talk to this guy and doing this Just about ready to land and all of a sudden the the

steering column took a turn a little bit and We bounced a little bit all over the place because he was trying to He was awake now a little bit and trying to trying to override what I was trying to do and so we were like Bouncing a little bit and so much he got vertical Well, I found out later. All right. He had been up all night Doing blow smoking the weed drinking he hung over vertigo everything like that so I am found this out I

Punched him and knocked him out in the plane went and got a taxi and went back to get my car in van eyes and and Pretty much through all the photos away except for two I have and so I kept to you get paid I didn't even care if I saw that guy again. I was in a killer. I was gonna say to me Was that the last time you worked together? Oh, yeah I Wouldn't see you again Lee At the account's office when they print up the paperwork and they show You're gonna kill him here. You're gonna kill him. I'm telling you

We'll give you the back story later people anyway but after that but after that Story started to get around and and blah blah blah people were like, all right, you got balls You'll do this and everything else. So I started getting more photo work and all that kind of stuff, but yeah, it's You're killing him over here I Counted and he tells them and they're like, yeah, this is you. This is all on you. You didn't pay it for 28 You know what it best not say much more cuz yeah

Don't tell Joey when you get a bad notice All this one's a bad one guys only boys can get this one, you understand me I'm sorry to interrupt It just came back to me that when you said the guy was spinning around I thought about Lee tomorrow I'll spin around like a top. Oh, it's gonna be tonight. He's not sleeping tonight Taking that up, but you might as well. I did take it out. We give you that spray thing That's how I'm high as fuck right now and a mystery pill Oh

That couple sprays myself You girls are so funny No, you really don't oh my god, I would love if we see Jean Here's the thing if I was on that plane and he was in the he was in the like the Control pit. He'd be laughing the entire time. What do you want me to tell your mom? What do you want? What do you want on your headstone? Yeah, you wouldn't be what song you want played at your funeral. Yeah, exactly. Don't don't worry. I'll be nice to your mom Don't worry. You kids are crazy. Oh tonight. He's gonna get calls all night from fucking creditors

They took his identity They sold it at La Merck Park and I told this is gonna happen. He laughed at me He didn't believe It's gonna cost you at least a Gino for an attorney fine 48 and then the attorney wants 10 because he saved you 48,000 Listen how the torture is Jewish person talk about money and what he's got a bag Pretty soon. I'll come in with the neck brace. I'm saying that any day now. I'll come in with a neck brace They bang you out with that bill you get a neck brace

You go by that park and you slip a fall and you sit there till I get down be a witness So I found your past out will call the ambulance will do it all high line We'll take you to see this to the COVID unit. You'll get COVID that cost you 15 grand, right? That's I'm just tacking on money for you. I'm saying the more the longer you stay at the hospital You rack up the bills the more you get the settlement and then we can scout the suit Thank God you're on my account, and this is awful advice This was the advice you're giving out Jean what happened at the House of Blues talk to me Oh

Aerosmith we're playing the House of Blues very first Hollywood Hollywood. Yes, what's in the commies though? Yeah, right across the road or across the street. Yeah, and so that is now What is it? It's a huge? fucking building I Mean you don't you don't see shit at night when you're old. I miss life at night when I'm old. I Don't know when I was doing coaching. I could see through walls. I Could see through women's clothing. I stopped snorting coke my vision went to the beach. Hello. I don't see dick I go to Hollywood in the daytime, and I know this shit

I went last week and I got out of the car in front of the county store You gotta see the size this fucking monstrosity, and they built it how quickly Like that I was torn down about a couple years ago. I think it was torn down for a while And it was a hole Then they dug hole and they kept that light for a while because I would drive down that hill every night I'm down there three times a week. The Sunset Boulevard is not the same at all not even It is not even fucking

close From what me I went down the other day, and I drove to La Cienega We drove past La Cienega and we made a lie you turn a chin chin Chin chin was packed eating COVID terrible Chinese food Why would you take a chance of your life and fucking chin chin? It is pretty bad. You might as well go to Wuhan and fucking sit there and get a fucking spare room You know I'm saying eat a cat while you're there drink some drink some fucking bat blood Do something you know I'm saying I'm sorry. No, no, it's good

No sunset is you know even that story told before about the fucking Viper room when I got here The Viper room wasn't really a big deal. I think Johnny Depp. We did comedy there on Sundays There was some guy that you went up in front of two bands He gave you 25 bucks and a couple drinks. I went down a couple Sunday nights, but there was no Johnny Depp no more Yeah, I think once the kid died rest in peace River Phoenix, I think that that Went down some once a guy dies here like if somebody would have died here one night on edibles

I'm out of this office the next day. I'm saying I'm a little out of them close the door some guy dies on edibles You know that some guy is gonna be it's gonna be me You don't get him started as soon as you open your mouth. He's gonna go I'm tired. So do you know how like can you put into perspective? Like how many people with whether like you back then like there must have been 8,000 bands But how many like photographers were there? How many people were there trying to do what you were doing? Oh, we're Done, I mean dozens and dozens. I mean we're all friends. I mean everybody was We were we were you know trying to do the same gig, but you know, there was just a little tight

unit of Friends and everything else. So I mean it was it was like it was a handful. You know, you're gonna be alright You're gonna What was that gibberish you just I don't know who knows you eat brains You're flying on one wing right now Oh Well, he had a good question, but the fact was there was a lot of photographers doing what I was doing and You know, there was some old school old older photographers that I looked up to and all that stuff and you know

You're gonna land pretty soon. Are you you coming down? Trust me, I'm fine compared to where I've been And but there was there was some great photographers that were in our little group of people that we always saw at the The concerts and everything else and I'm still friends with them today and we're all agree that I mean the there is no more scene There used to be a scene a happening thing, you know Everybody was going to see this band and you know, you could always see your friends that shows but you know, there's when digital came around Wiped out everything. It was not fun every

I mean, I remember when FedEx came aboard and you had to have something sent overnight Now that's not fast enough anymore. You take something people want to see it right away. I mean Go into concerts and seeing You know people with their lighters in the old days was great when you know, you had your Big lighter and all that stuff now people are just holding up cell phones I cannot tell you how irritating that is for for me to try to get some pictures and see nothing but cell phones And people aren't watching the shows anymore but anyway, I digress to

Yes, there was a lot of photographers that were trying to do what I was doing and and then getting back to Joey's question the Viper room was I think part owned by Aerosmith and part owned by Dan Ackroyd and some other kind of things that I just kind of listened and heard Stuff like that. So they had the opening night of Aerosmith going to play the opening the grand opening of the Viper room the House of Blues

So the House of Blues Wasn't even finished yet. They were painting railing and they were putting in nails Aerosmith is doing a soundcheck and they're still hammering nails and putting up doors and painting all the stuff and You could smell paint during the soundcheck and all the stuff. So anyway they do a great two-hour set and It's packed. Everybody is there that you could think of Dustin Hoffman, Danny Glover

Oh that comedian the great guy Chris Farley Steven stills just a whole you know slew of people, you know celebrities musicians and I had Every kind of pass and credential you can ever think of, you know, when you go someplace and they say here's your wristband Here's your credential. Here's this. Well, I had Everyone you could have every color every size

and I was following Steven Tyler into this private little room at the House of Blues and My hand we were trying to get through and I remember Steven stills and Dan Ackroyd we're talking and then Steven Tyler had my hand he was pulling me through Because he wanted to get a shot with somebody that was in there he there are some people that they really wanted some photos of and My other hand was being grabbed by Dan Ackroyd and two of the biggest

Security guys I'd ever seen in my life So they were pulling me back out thinking that I was a paparazzi guy and hey This is this is you can't be here and I said well, I'm working with Aerosmith. I'm working for them Right here. What do you want to see? Here's another pastor another pass so Steven's yelling at me come in come in he's got my arm one way And so I'm right in the middle of a doorway and Dan Ackroyd's calling for more security because I'm being pulled down by

two more of Aerosmith guys and and Dan Ackroyd's people and I'm just and and everybody has to stop because They can't go in because I'm in there in the hallway and so Long story short as I'm screaming Dan Ackroyd you suck. I hate Ghostbusters. I hate everything you did you suck you suck you suck and Finally let go of his grip and somebody was on the walkie-talkie and Steven just yanked me all the way through and They sorted it out. I said let you guys sort it out and let me take my pictures now when I spoke to you You're a big-time Aerosmith fan. I mean you knew

Get your wings which a lot of people don't know you knew the first time we talked we just we was talked about Kings and Queens for all the line Were you a fan of theirs before you took that picture or did you become a fan? Oh, no, I've been a fan way You're a fan. All of a sudden you got a call to shoot Aerosmith Yeah, yeah, what was your first call to shoot Aerosmith? I did a lot of work for Geffen records my very very very dear dear friend Bryn Brydenthal was the head of publicity department at Geffen Records and Aerosmith had just come out with

Permit vacation and she had hired me before to do video stills on Like Robbie Robertson Yeah, and I had flown out to New Mexico to spend three days out there and I had done like lots of variety bands for her And she said hey, you know what Aerosmith's got a new record out and she you know she gave me a copy of the tape and Says they're gonna do a video shoot next week

Well, I want to hire you to do that. Can you go down there? And it was dude looks like a lady So I got photos of dude looks like a lady stills and it was just I Mean I'm doing my job, but I'm shaking because this is these are you know, I saw Aerosmith at the Crappiest of crap. I mean they when I mean they were great on record, but when they were live in the 70s They I've seen some pretty Three times. They were all in three for me really all in three and Then years later. I got to find out the history whatever, but

They were very I've always respected them in a weird they had two lives, man They had two different fucking lives as a band a lot of bands like AC DC had two lives But they switched singers, you know black Sabbath had two lives again. There was this a switching of the guard Aerosmith was pretty much Dead in 1981 for people who don't know this they were dead It was just a fucking joke. It was really a joke and I still remember like I Was a fan of get your wings. Yeah, I was even a fan of night at the rucks That's how much of an Aerosmith fan I am Dean Delray reminded me of you gotta re-listen to it again

It's got some it's got some really good fucking really good stuff so What the fuck are we talking about? About being a fan so Now you walk into this room What the fuck how do you act? I'd lose my mind, but no, I wouldn't Because I still remember the first time I had to shoot something one of my first big shoots I had a shoot with James Coburn

Wow James Coburn to me is like my connection to Bruce Lee Like that's it. They don't you know, he's a cool. Yeah my mom knowing Watching him with in like Flint and then I picked up the second one And then once you see the dirt with a magnificent seven he threw the knives, you know James Coburn was just a shit and I got a call for three months They keep pushing it back to shoot and I get paid every time. I don't give a fuck Then I got a call you shoot Monday's well, and I go, whoa, we wait no James Coburn I'm like, oh my god, and when I look at the lines, I had scenes with him

So how did I didn't know how to act and I was a young Comic a really green actor. How do you prep for that? I Kept it together Like when I straight when I straight hard when I knew when I found out Muhammad Ali was coming to the comedy store. I Had like a thing on my back And I had this emotion and I broke out in tears And I did not want to see Muhammad Ali like I couldn't I think I'd fucking faint You know I'm saying like there's people I think I'll faint

Like if I ever saw Steve McQueen in 1973, I would have fainted That's what he meant to me Charles Bronson. Even though he was a scumbag. I would have fainted, you know Steven Tyler I'd faint when I was a kid. We're not talking about now No, I know I don't make yeah, but when you're get it together. Yeah, I mean stop with the bracelets enough You're 80 years old. You're gonna breathe. No, but he's did you ever see him on Rogan? Oh No, bro. That was one of the best interview that was really he was when you watch Steven Tyler, you know that is a fake When you watch Steven Tyler, you realize Johnny Depp is a MOOC a little more

Like he's just a fucking MOOC when you watch Steven Tyler Because half of his persona is Steven Tyler and the other half is Keith Richards. He's just put it together But he's really wants to be Steven Tyler, but that interview that he gives is so fucking brilliant He's busy and all three of us put together all the time He was talking about his schedule like he read his schedule on the podcast Because he writes everything down. Yeah, he's got to be here. He's gotta be there. It's just discipline It's it's craziness that at that age and then at the end of the week they fly to Orlando and play

Something they do something like that. That's what he was talking about. Yeah. Wow. So when was this podcast done? About two years ago three years ago Wow, but then he had Joe Perry on very good very good Well, I mean the video that we opened up the podcast with what struck me most about it was how You know, I mean, I think of rock stars you think of like doing drugs and they just hey, it's time to go on Okay, they like they were doing there. They were figuring out who's gonna do what solo is where this and that was very big It was almost like they were like Sports team getting ready for a big game. They're like they were getting a plan together that I just You didn't I would never expect

90 they were sober See, but in the 70s, it was nothing it's just show up. Oh, okay. So part of the yeah Well, they came back. They were sober. Yeah, they kept it together. They were sober. You can see it on their faces They were the sharpest they ever were When I saw them they looked 20 years older than that I saw them 10 years before and they looked older from the heroin They were beat up from the fucking heroin. It was it's really a man when you read the book When they shot

Kings and Queens, whatever, you know, they were pretty much done. They weren't talking to each other Just look up any old live arrow Smith 70 stuff and you'll see some Just hard hard Not all of them. Not all of them. There was there was Nights, but it's just uh, no, I mean like Tom Hamilton always kept it together and Brad Whitford and all I mean Not all of them were in Certain bands. There's always the guys that keep it together because if they were all messed up all of them just

Good night before you even open up with one song. It's over what I think of you I think of the guy from that movie the young kid at the rider from rowing stone And what's the name of that movie that that dude did mark marins and he's great in it. Oh with the band Yeah, almost famous you think of who of you Like a young guy on a tour bus Yeah stealing a shirt man taken taking stuff. I used to take stuff all the time, you know If I could take something off a set list

I I'd always grab the set list uh grab anything from the walls and you know, if somebody left something behind it's like They're not coming back for that. I took it. So yeah, you still got this stuff. Oh, yeah Yeah, it's gonna be worth a lot of money someday. You know what? It's worth it to me because um Like one of my favorite all-time songs is seasons of wither From aerosmith tremendous. It's a great song and they were doing a video I think they were doing a video in some place. Uh, let's see A mississippi, I think or louisiana. I can't I can't really remember but

They uh were being filmed and it was my birthday and they played that song For me on my birthday seasons of wither and they hadn't played that song for a long time And when bands don't play songs that they used to playing they actually have to Listen to it. They have to listen to it again and again and put the cassette or cd or whatever it is And and have to re-listen to it and remember how it goes I've seen that it happened a few times. It's like now you also work in van halen with sami david libraz sami Wow, how is that sami's a great guy? I mean he's he's one of those just straight-up guys that's just

you know He's a great guy, but he's also he was a great front guy for I know everybody likes david libraz classic stuff I like the records, but live To me david just talks the song. You know how people talk a song. They don't really sing it. They just kind of Skip Just babble through it all that kind of stuff. Please do me a favor type that van halen live open 81 I don't want the people to see it. Okay. I just want to see if you remember this Jean, let me tell you something

I in fact my friends are going to give me shit Timmy halloween guide to basco going to give me shit because they tell me that Wow one out. I don't mention it I don't talk about it Oh, we're the children first. Oh, it's not one of my favorite albums not because of the music But because it came with a poster in it of david li chained up in it Once I saw that fucking poster

I nearly fucking smacked the shit out of myself. Like I'm like, I'm not listening to van halen anymore You mean the one where he's chained against the fence? Right the third one Lee so I was pissed at van halen For years even though I saw them level fucking black Sabbath. I was furious. I read that that photo Almost broke up the band because that photo shoot was in there and Almost when I saw that and my friends will say you never talk about that fucking Song on the podcast women and children first listen to the album. I well the album is great

I went south because of that fucking poster. I did not like that poster But what the fuck is going on? I don't know just keep saying error. Hold on This performance here made me a van halen fact After the poster This was one of the first videos on MTV Oh Now do you remember this and I got to tell you They are

Live in 81 in oakland and they are Fucking phenomenal. Okay. This was when I was like, wait a second I got to rethink my fucking van halen hate. Yeah, you got to go back. You got to go back. So This is when okay from here on this is uh the album with a Second album. No, this is the Wait, wait, this is 81

But this song is on the album not women and children first but mean streets. This is well This is mean killing me. I know it. I from this census part of town And they're singing oh my baby is on the corner and she's looking so fine One on one together and she blow my mind Manly loves man needs love to live. I'm the living proof right there This van halen I forgot. It's tremendous. See this is nobody remembers this. This is the first one of the first earliest videos on MTV and I was like, you know what?

I gotta think my van. So I like this song I looked it up and it's on the B side of that out That's the funny thing about that and after that I became a van halen fan But like I told you the other day, I saw a deal in Philadelphia And the at the spectrum at the spectrum and the opening band was sammy haigar and shaking street And in Philly, they're savages

And I had six throw and they were spitting on their fingers and flicking it at sammy haigar Poor so that was my last real experience Of sammy haigar. So I'm watching this and also somebody comes to me and says sammy haigar He's gonna replace david lyrock. I'm like, there's not a prayer in hell They almost they almost spit out them to death in philadelphia. You know, how's he gonna do it? But you What you was this when you hooked up with them? It was the 51 50 tour. Oh, right off the bat. It's when they started right off the bat Yeah, right there. Yeah, and uh

I um, I hooked up with their manager and uh publicist and Once you get your little foot in there and the door doesn't quite slam on you And you kind of kick it open a little bit more and a little bit more You either have to do two things Annoy someone to death Or just leave. I annoy people to death. So they gotta give me a chance. So Uh, anyway, so speaking of annoying, let me talk to you about something late

So you're the annoying one of the fairies I'm sitting here quiet minding my own business. I didn't even say I didn't even I didn't even fart Yeah, take another shot I'm really we're not gonna see each other for a couple months and you're just fucking getting it all in It was getting too quiet too good Jean Jean we gotta fuck it up a little bit Ah I will get fucked up tonight. That's a thousand milligram spray. I saved up for a special occasion

I hope my wife's got cold cuts tonight. I'm saying Even though you tell her not to get cold cut. Oh my god I fucking get the worst muggies in the world. I'm sorry. Uh, anyway, so sam Van Halen, what are you laughing about? You gotta come up with 20 g's tomorrow. You know, I don't Wait till the wait till the fuck yeah, we'll wait till you go down there tomorrow And they look at you and they send you out and they show you the bank accounts and You know, that remote looks like a bar of soap, you know, you better You know what I would I'm on your side you're gonna be fine. Yeah, sure right keep telling that he doesn't know

He started a corporation. He thinks he's got bananas They're gonna go right in there They already went in they ran like fruit money Like all that fruit but people don't know is All those umbrellas Joe bananas all those umbrellas those Mexican places They're all cartel money That's where they drop and pick up the money. Nobody suspects those little mexicans You look at them. They look at they come like a from a third world nation

They're making two yards a day You think you make any money selling coconuts in this country. They're in a diamond that fucking business They sprinkle peanuts on it and some fucking sesame sauce. Yeah, you gotta die They're little transports for envelope. So what they do is Is this ex-sister-in-law sold his id down on the murk park They jump in quick I just love in his mind that it's a it's a front for the cartel But they're also filing taxes with the city of Los Angeles

Sure Because the nice people these people these people are catholics Just because they sell drugs. Well, it's not got to do with it. You know what I'm saying? so They you you're probably the owner of all these umbrellas in the area I don't believe in karma. You're being kind of mean and we did not be mean to you I'm just telling you that there's no way you end up with this type of bill From the city. I said I made 16 million dollars. You did. Oh, I bet you did. I bet you a lot of fucking fruit

That's just that comes out too easy from you Lee. That's a lot of fruit That's a lot of nannies Obsessing me How long did you work with them for on the 51 52? Yeah off and on but uh, there was one really fun night. Um, I was in uh, uh, I usually just handled some of the west coast You know shows san diego la You know vegas so I go to vegas and um

Um, I uh shoot the show and during the middle of the show Um, I'm in the photo pit and sammy hagar leans down and he's trying to talk to me and I I don't wear earplugs in shows. So I can't hear I want to hear the loud buzzing. I want to hear I don't want to hear muffled stuff. So I don't wear earplugs Um, so he leans down and he's trying to ask me something. I have no idea This is during a slight guitar solo and something's going on and he's trying to Tell me something and I just say I don't know

What what and Next thing I know he's grabbing me by Like okay. I'm shooting photos He's leaning down and trying to grab the back of my belt Along with two of his security people and he wanted me to go on stage Apparently what was supposed to happen was he was trying to tell me there was a whole crapload of girls

With their tops off tit city and he wanted pictures of it So it was like he was trying to get me to come up there. He's like Get up here. What he was saying was hey, I need you up here now and I'm like idiot and I'm like So I got up there and yep Titty city that's my first 10 rows of You know tops off and everything else and I'm Just first of all, I'm nervous because I'm on the stage

I've never been on the stage before that so I'm like And um, so I'm like, okay There's a nice set. There's a nice set and he's bringing me over and he goes get that one get that one take that one and and then um in the meantime um Eddie van Halen was running back and forth and he would like kick me in the ass With his foot like playing and just kind of give me a kick and then um Michael anthony

Saw me look one way and he threw me a beer and they were just having fun It's like, you know crack open a beer have it right there There's another set right there grab that and then I don't know what song it was but it was just and then A friend of mine that had gone with me to the show. I see his face and he's just like Freaking out like you're up there Look at all these I said, but look behind you look behind you man So he was he was more having fun with me being up there than what was behind him

So do you have a like a file folder full of these titty city pictures? Well Needless to say the band took them I mean I was working with them, but uh Um, I'm pretty sure that uh a girl I was seeing at the time probably wouldn't dig that if I came and say look Look at all these nice. Oh, no, you don't look at these. So she went. Are you retired now? Well, um, no, okay Um, would you have been on tour right now if it wasn't for this pandemic if somebody want Yeah, you would be out there with gone to somebody or anybody. I mean, um

I just did a photo shoot two weeks ago of a up-and-coming new band. That's great three-piece band. They're awesome and uh, I found a location know that uh They're called um, they're called. Uh, okay. They're gonna kill me. They're called uh desert of desert of the talking shadows and the singer

Plays guitar and sings he's got a chris cornell sound garden sound And he plays like a little bit like a slash and some other people but They are a great band and so they wanted some new photos and I found this um, I went back to the old school days of uh, the 80s where it's uh, it was a It was a mental hospital that had been Shut down for 30 40 50 years and it was all gated up and everything else and I scouted it out actually me and my wife went around a bunch of times and uh, found different

holes in the fence that we could Crawl under and see and I took the pictures and sent it and said you guys want to take a shot of Getting in this place Yeah, let's go for it. So we did And uh, so you know I mean photographers I was a horrible photographer as as a kid I started in the 70s with a Kodak and shit like that and my hands wouldn't be steady

but This is there's something about Somebody shooting me and I look weird Like there's two people who could shoot me That looked great and that's Troy Conrad and Felicia Michaels Every picture Felicia Michaels has taken of me. I could really dig them A couple years ago a guy called me that I knew for years and goes I want to run something but I need a character face

Do you mind and he sent them to me and I'm like man I need plastic fucking surgery like There's some photographers that just I look at the pictures and I go Something's not there, but then you have Troy Conrad and Felicia Michael. Did you know them though? Yes Did you do are you friends and bond and did you okay? That helps because if someone that I don't know wants me to do something I gotta I gotta know something about them. I

Gotta look them up. I gotta talk to them. I gotta like get to know them and get their vibe Usually the people yeah, because you know if I if I know you and Like I was like I was telling you before my very first guns and roses photo shoot I knew that they were big drinkers and everybody had cigarettes I spent 160 bucks on booze and and cartons and cartons of cigarettes everybody got here

You want a carton? You want a carton? You want a carton here? So I I did a little homework and and uh Everybody went home hung over and happy or whatever That's fucking crazy, man But if you know somebody and you're comfortable with them, then you'll do something I mean I've shot some photographs of some people and they were horrible We just didn't get on They didn't

Want to be there a lot of people. I bet you want photos taken in five minutes or less Very astute Let me answer this now When you get sent out by the record label and you go to these different people Other times you've ever showed up and you've gone to shoot them and you don't really like the person And you still got to work that night as that have happened You go to shoot a band you kind of like them, you know a little something about them

Maybe I don't like their music, but I like them It really helps if you like their music because you get into it But yeah, I've gone on have you gone to a place and somebody's just like fucking I keep this guy's scumbag liberal um Yeah, there's been a couple times that that's happened and big stars like um They thought they were

They thought they were bigger than their britches, but you know, it's um How long were you in the game for like because I think you even worked at Roger Waters I mean you with everybody. No, I actually didn't work for Roger Waters. Um, I I See a lot of times people get hired to do jobs Then there's other times where the photographer wants to go Shoot an artist or photograph a show For their catalog, you know, I need I need some new pictures of this band or I I don't have any of this

And the publicist will say, okay, you know, here's your photo pass and we'll you know, you're taking care of I went to go see Roger Waters play And photograph his show when he was on his First solo tour So Yeah, yeah, 80 I think it was 85 and it was at the LA forum and um, I think there was only

two of us Or three of us maybe and the photo pit in the front area and you're given three songs to do Someone somewhere when I came along I came along just when this three song rule happened, but As a as a rule there's you get three songs Shoot the artist and then get out well I was at this roger watershow and um

The song was one of the songs was so long And I don't remember which one it was That the security didn't know that I was supposed to leave and I didn't know if this was a new song Or still part of the second or third song So I stayed and stayed and next thing I know I'm in there by myself and I'm still shooting and shooting During one of his songs he looks He looks down at me stops the show

stops everything And yells at me to get my ass out of the photo pit What are you doing here? Who are you? What are you doing? Get out. I'm not gonna play nothing get out I'm like, okay. I'm I'm fine. I was Just doing my stuff. So you were hired to be there. No. No, I just you know wanted to do it on my own So so no if I was hired I wouldn't fucking hustler Yeah, that's what that's what photographers did they

Called up said I would like to come to this show and and uh You know get some get some, you know stuff So obviously paparazzi has like a sort of a negative connotation But as like an independent photographer, is that how you would kind of do your business? Like you would take these pictures and try to sell them to magazines. Exactly. Exactly. Like like for instance let's say, uh, let's say I don't have any Ted Nugent photos or needed some new ones He comes through town or rush or any band comes through town and um

I call up and say, you know to the publicist or whoever I have to talk to Hey, can I um, can I get in to the show? and they'll say well You know, we're over our limit, but um, Maybe you'd want to go to a different city like Long Beach if they did Long Beach arena or A lot of times I went to San Diego Because nobody would drive down to San Diego and I would be like the only one in the in the pit area How many photographers usually go in that pit area? There's been times

I could probably estimate 15 when When there was an iron maiden show in the early days the early 80s. I mean there was about 15 of us in there scrambling for uh For the shots and don't the bands get pissed What do you mean? So there's a special area of photographers and you come in there and you just take pictures of me And you leave and you go home and then I tour and I never see you again and you have my pictures in the cell I don't get this

Well, the magazines need Oh, okay, okay. No, no, that's what i'm saying. Yeah, so then you have the press pass Yeah, that's what it is and you went to see Roger Waters I had a press pass and and so someone authorized it. But the problem was Nobody kicked me out and I didn't know exactly what point to leave so I just stayed in there and I'm I'm not gonna. Hey, I have a chance to keep staying. I'm not gonna leave until someone tells me to leave And he I didn't know he was gonna stop the show and kick me out

Usually a security guard would just do one of these things or flashes flashlight in your face or something like that get your attention but Never had an artist stop a show and tell me leave and Make sure I'm leaving the building. I'm not gonna until you're out of my sight. I'm not gonna play So that was a kind of a dick move but whatever I have to spin this around Uh and take it back a little bit You went on the road with aerosmith. Mm-hmm. But before

You went on the road with aerosmith. That's when you encountered guns and roses Correct. Well, I actually worked with both those bands almost at the same time because um, um, I think Okay, I think appetite came out And 87 and so did permit vacation. I'm pretty sure that those and they're both on geffen records and they're both coming out with

Pretty pretty solid records. Well appetite huge record and for aerosmith That permit vacation Was their comeback record. I mean it started opening the doors for everything they did since then again um, so what had happened was I was working with Both those bands in the same summer So I would I would go from shooting a video to a photo shoot to

some touring stuff and um, then The best thing happened was Uh guns and roses opened up for aerosmith on the last Leg of the tour, which was the last month and a half for two months of their tour So to see to see those two play together Was awesome I mean and now geffen's company paid for your hotel travel Um, actually they they paid

They paid for what they used so let's say, um Let's say I went on my own Then they would just buy whatever they wanted from me if they sent me If they sent me to new york or sent me to some place, um Then You know, I would get what they wanted to have and needed with their photos But um, but they'd pay for everything, but I still owned it So if they sent me the her name is bren brydenthal. She was the head of publicity

So she would hire me and say we need you to go here and shoot, you know, uh Paradise city video some stills from there, but by that time I knew the band anyway So it was like fun to go get paid to go see some friends play and so And then also aerosmith was on the bill too. So I'd kind of piggyback So it was really weird because one week I would go out and shoot aerosmith And then the next week I'd or two weeks later

I'd go back out and shoot guns and roses, but they were all still in the same bill. So I'd still get more pictures They told me once that slash was Very very influential on you like he was one of the three people that were very Very good to you. Oh, he still is. Oh, he's he's he's One of my dearest friends of you know And that you you mentioned that movie almost famous And uh, there's a part where it says don't make friends with the bands, you know, don't don't get close to them Don't make friends with a band. They'll

Chew you up and disregard you and all that stuff. Well that has happened, but most of the time, you know Artists They call me because they want something and For me too. I call them when I want something but In rare cases people just call to check in um, there are three major people in my life that that are huge slash

lead of ford and um Ronnie james dio, I mean I'm so sad we we we lost them years ago gosh 10 years ago but um, he was the I mean he was my My start. I never I might not even Be here standing or sitting here talking to you because Someone has to give you a start. You don't know when or where or who but

He was the one and I couldn't ask for that man. You had a second chance at life Yeah, when are you gonna write your book? I know you told me you're working on the website I mean jean, this is a story that We could do 10 of these hours You know from slash to you know arrow smith, I mean The other day when we were talking I told you my love for arrow smith

And the alms I loved your head almost blew up. I mean I'll be I'm 57 58. Yeah, so we both grew up on the same fucking music and then one day you had the You had a dream life, you know And you're still taking you still look good your handsome You're still taking pictures. What kind of camera do you take your pictures on? I've got a Nikon Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. I used to have Nikon. I I was a Nikon guy forever But I have a Canon. I use Canon gear. I've got a it's a

7d Canon 7d and a couple lenses What kind of lenses are your favorite? I'm a photography guy, but people are photographers to listen to the podcast it's a it's a a zoom lens 70 Actually it's a 24 to 70 zoom lens 2.8. That's my that's my favorite one because It can cover just about whatever I need

I have I have a couple of longer lenses a 200 lens if I have to be back Like if I'm in the crowd If I'm in the crowd and I want to get you know a shot from inside the the The arena or something like that and want to get a nice long shot. I'll use my 200 Um, but the one that that's strapped onto the the camera right now is uh the 24 the 70 and uh, I could pick it up and it's it's good to go. It's ready to go at all times and and uh

Yeah, I used it the other day and it was awesome Does it hurt your feelings a little bit that it's digital? I hate digital I hate it. I'm picking up right now like you feel I miss film. I miss film the the the I'm glad that I started when I did because that was You you either developed your own film or you Shot it and dropped it off at your favorite lab and you just couldn't wait for the next day I mean, there were times I'd stay up

All night until the next day when I could get go pick up my stuff and then look at it everything else It was that anticipation of what you're gonna get. I mean, it's like lead them all morning I knew it It was too quiet for your league too quiet He was reeling you in You'll be taking pictures in the county jail Don't even say for months. There's no debtors prison now because then you're gonna go down there and they're gonna realize you're the fake Because you don't know the money. I'm the fake Lisa. I fake Lisa. I gotta call me. I don't know nothing. I'm gonna hang up

Oh, this is LA county jail. Do you accept collect call from Lisa? I'm at the county jail pick up No, I don't accept the call Oh, I've gotten a few of those calls People's like, uh, uh, you don't know me. I don't know you Jean Jean, what advice can you give a young photographer right now? That's at home I mean right now there's nothing to take a picture of

Unless you want to take a picture homeless people People get hit in the head with sticks people wiping their ass the other day the one time Remember the night I left here the other night we were here one night And I swear to god I was at that light fire by the fire station For some reason that light is always green And it was red because the fire truck was backing up and the light was flashing. Okay And there was a dude

Taking a shit by the tree. I looked at the hall I didn't see the shit coming out of his ass nothing But what I did see was him straighten up Take his asshole and wipe it up against the tree This is a fascinating I haven't had dinner yet And people ask me why I'm leaving Because I saw a guy take a shit. I forgot to tell you that Lee Right there right wiped it on the tree like a bear listen to me

I don't mind if you take a shit in that park or the little league. I'm not gonna get mad at you. I've been there I've been there sometimes you got to go. Yeah, and you got to fucking dump But the fact that he took the shit onto hunger across the street from the fire department Behind the fence and listen if the fire truck didn't come Nobody would see him. I'm not saying he had a bad spot, but he didn't think it through I would have gone deeper And sometimes you don't think it all the way through

You have no idea what it is to be sitting there finally Oh, that was tough. I'm gonna take a shit right here and all As you blown that first fucking nut out All of a sudden the fire truck decides to come down the block with its sirens on Then they stop the sirens and then they beeped up and they have to back it in right you've seen them do it Well as they back it in the lights were flashing his homie He straightens up. He's fucking guilty, right? He don't even know what to do with his hands He's got like a t-shirt, but it falls out of his hand

So he just walks backwards and he puts his ass against the tree So walking to the back back there and I don't know what happened to him. I don't know Yeah, what did he beep at him? I didn't even beep at him I just drove straight because I didn't want him chasing the car and sitting on my car and then you know I don't I don't play that shit If you're gonna take a shit take a shit in the park like a normal human being Don't take a shit across the street from the fire department. That's all i'm trying to say He wasn't thinking it all the way through man. So let me tell you something

Do you even give an answer for your advice for the whole yeah, give me yeah There you go. Lee's on it. He's lying. That's when I wish I would have had a fucking camera Uh, that's when I make money you have a camera if I see a guy taking this shit I would never even know how to fucking do this because you gotta press it and get a light I don't do that. I ain't quick like G I see a guy taking this shit. I take that picture. I will fucking Send it to Garcetti And then frame it and put in the museum like and fuck with people

Like what do you see in that picture? I see a poor a poor man looking for hope. I see a fucking guy Wiping his ass up against the tree. All right, I'm not there's no hope white when you wipe in your ass I'm gonna send it to Garcetti. You send it to all your friends six in the morning. Gene. I can't tell you how many pictures of shit I've gotten from this man He never texts he yells at people who text But at seven in the morning about eight times a year. I get a picture of the biggest nasty shit Oh, yeah, see the ones lately with blood on top of them. Why is there blood on top? What is now? Who know

It's a joke. Gene relax the blood. No, I was just thinking the bloody stools. That was the name of a band once Oh Well don't try to make your money at it because Everybody's giving stuff away if you go on facebook you go on all these social things If you're starting out

You better have a niche or you better have a connection of some sort because um If I'm I'm glad I'm not starting out because I You know, I had the drive the hunger you you got to have you got to have it in you you got to have You got to have some skills, but right now with the digital stuff all you got to do is have a credit card buy your equipment and buy these little discs that you put in there and It's not like the old days where you had to buy film. I spent

Thousands and thousands of dollars on film Film you had to buy it then you had to have it developed and you had to make them all count or as much as You had you had to make that film count somehow One great picture is all I needed to do to make everything count But nowadays people look down you see the see him up. No, I'll redo it again redo it again and all this stuff The advice I'd give it anybody is just you know Um Have a passion for it. Don't expect to make your rent

Money off of it. Don't don't expect to pay your car off on it Just do it because you fucking love it. You love it. I still love it I take pictures of just weird things the other day. Well, no not the other day. It was a couple years ago You don't do weddings. Huh? You don't do weddings. I have but they had to be special one was on halloween night It was a halloween night wedding and everybody had to be dressed up Everybody had to be dressed up in something. So I mean it I've done one in hawai um It just has to be something that's very fun and special not your you know

Traditional stuff, you know, I've done one Of a biker you know biker club, you know type of wedding and uh, it was fun so that kind of stuff, yeah, but uh No, I've always I've always loved music. I think I was telling you before that In the 70s, I would open up an album and I would study the photo Who took it? Where did they take it? Who's involved with everything? You know The aerosmith live bootleg full of photos

How many times did you open your record and just look at everything and just study it all You know for you high on balls and just just for years I pitched I wanted to pitch a show where you Grabbed an album and broke it down but Everybody said it wouldn't work because you got to pay for rights and shit like that to play people's music I wanted to show the concept of what an album was You know, I'll never forget being in the longest yard

And they sent me a dvd And when I opened it up, it was just a dvd There was no folder There was no pictures no booklet. No booklet There was no no history I remember opening you know opening up albums and seeing we want to thank the Hilton's You know, they even thank the hotel chain. They say that, you know Like you know for me, it was part of you woke up on a Saturday. You went to the record store

Some albums you bought because of the record the cover just the cover You didn't care what it was. It was the cover if the cover was cool, you know, how's it a holy? Great cover The kids walking whatever the fuck they're doing, you know, there's so many album covers Of us growing up that you bought the album. You know, we used to have good album covers Maybe the outlaws molly hatchet. Yeah Molly hatchet always if you look at their album covers if anybody is interested in looking at weird album covers They have like a viking of some shit

They have like something that was uh, but they also had kick-ass music inside if you if you listen to it one time After you, you know, put it on you study it. You're in they stole that from society They stole that On saturdays your mom used to get your head done And your dad Played cards He went to his buddy's house at one and played cards. So you knew on saturday You had the house

From one fifteen to about three thirty Fourth mom was shopping So you would time it just right you me steve samon like three jerk offs would walk from here To I don't know Ventura and fucking bar hand We would walk like five miles To a record stop to buy it out

And on the way back we stopped at burger king We knew a chick from high school that worked at burger king So she'd give us extra chicken sandwiches And then on the way down the hill you went to your drug dealers house and you bought a nickel bag If he was a good drug dealer, he gave you eight joints five dollars And you took the thing home you you put the album on And while you played the album You opened the album up and you cleaned the pot

In the middle of the album and the seeds would fall down to the bottom And you could skim away the seeds just grave and in the 80s we had seeds in our weed until the mexicans Discovered since the media narcos season two mexico get your shit together. They got the host history lesson there But those seeds and then while We'd smoke We would look at the album cover the sleeves The band took time They just didn't create music while they were creating music. They would hire a guy like you

The third ID is adam And they put work just as much work as they did into the music Into the album. I I I I took my case of albums away But you know This album cover simple And To the points. Yeah, okay album covers were

AC DC back in black almost didn't get released because it was a black cover They thought it wouldn't sell But they had the music people had to know what brian johnson had to bring because that was his first shot and But what you were talking about Going through Going through the whole procedure. You know what you just did you just broke it down On how to buy and listen to a record. That was it. That's all I want to do

You went you knew somebody I went to a record store called licorice pizza and I had friends that worked there and You know, they'd say, you know Here you go. You know, this is check this out. This is a you know This is this is really good because they would play it. I got to listen to stuff Like if I asked for it, it's like, hey, can you play me? This record or if somebody turned me on to something I didn't hear it before but it's like, man, they'd be playing red fox

red fox's stuff to you know, um Ted Nugent to you know, whatever but you got to listen to it I hung out more record stores anyplace else Because I got to listen to it and go, okay. I like this enough that I want to buy it and you know Take it home Open it up Get my right sitting place. Get my whole thing. It was a whole procedure. Okay. I got a cold beer

Uh, I got one ready. It was it was a whole thing. But then you had one more album to put in your rack So when people came over you a big shot. Yeah, you pick pick your fucking out. Yep Pick your album. We what are they gonna tell you tomorrow? What do you think? I tell you Joey Diaz is a meanie. Gene Kirkman. Thank you very much for taking the time Yeah, man and coming on for people don't know lee got the wrong bill sent to him But as you guys know of lee You know, uh, you got someone on the south point The nicest guy in the world

Okay, lee's got the kiss at that island for a couple years. So if anybody knows this this probably will is gonna be a problem because La Merck park is full of lee's scyats. I went down the last time I went to langus I parked by the Merck park and the guy asked me. Hey, it was ID And I asked him what name you had this a lee's scyat. That's why I made him aware So that's what you just thought that's when you stole my ID and why I got 15 million dollars with a fruit Yeah, what I do your fucking ID I'm telling you you're the head of a cartel that 15 million sounds about right They sent you a bill and said you made 15 16. Yeah 16 million. I owe 48 grand in taxes. Oh, yeah, you're done

They got you you're done. It's all over When you go tomorrow, they might even handcuff you. No, my mom won't let me go. She says I'll say something wrong Yeah, no, I know you will leave me your watch in your wallet. I'll hold it for you You'll see it back in about three years. Oh my god, there's so listen gene the thing about you is We could be here till five in the fucking morning. We've been bringing up the kilo blow So we'll have to get you the next time Jesus anytime you want me here, man. I I I got stories They just have to come out, you know Once I start yakking

That's it. It's a fucking beautiful thing. You've had a great career from the Aussie stories to the guns and roses The fuck is I can't imagine being a fan of aerosmiths And having to shoot them, but I'd have to do the same creepy shit What's up with you? Zombo you're right. So how many muggers under that? Is it not spray? It doesn't really matter It's actually a pretty guy not bad actually to be to be very honest with you. Come here. Take a couple more I want to hear you need a couple more I'm ugly. You spray doesn't go in my eye for sure. No, I just shoot one in your eye one time Just see what happens. Let me ask you something real quick my friend. I hear you're doing something soon

A pretty big project Is it something I should know about a movie? Yeah Yeah, yeah, it's supposed to come out next March. Yeah, I'm doing one more day on it And uh, hopefully that's okay. You want to move it to me? What do you think I fucking want? What's the problem? I gotta fucking spray it again with the ozium Brilliant, but you got me walking around like you gave it to Steve Simone Steve Simone says you gave it to him and shit. You gave him the clap I don't know how true that is, but it doesn't matter anyway

Yeah, I'm shooting the soprano movie. It's supposed to get released. I think March 12th next year They added scenes. That's all I know. I'm excited. I can't wait. You're gonna be awesome cast. I'm excited Did you watch the series? Yeah, you know what? I didn't get into it I've always cut things on the very end of the tail end of stuff when people have already gotten into stuff I have uh You know thanks to my wife. She goes you got to watch this stuff and Some of the some of the best nights we've ever had was watching

marathon times in a row going for it and uh when uh When I got rumored that uh, they were gonna do a movie I just said I bet he's gonna be something to do with it and then sure enough I mean, I just had that instinct that thought oh my god You're gonna be because I've watched you in the longest yard about 10 15 times How crazy now if you if I'm not I'll just give you a little connection that you now you have a little connection to gnr

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91 91 92 So he had it made up for him And on the back it says meme machine You know about a month ago that movie came on the original about 10 o'clock How can you not watch it? My wife just went to bed I ran in the back. I did about 10 bongants And when I came back he was driving to let his skinning Oh, it's the saturday. Oh, that's that's my that's one of my favorite parts that that is just a brilliant scene

Then they come into the bar and he tells them would you bring this midget cop with you? And all cops always laugh and it's like It's just And I it just took me back to 1974 cinema theater union city, new jersey packed house on a saturday afternoon 200 kids on seats yelling meme machine meme machine

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