Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - #811 - Ryan Sickler: The Host
Episode Date: August 10, 2020Ryan Sickler, a stand up comedian and the host of "The HoneyDew" podcast, is the first guest host of The Church of What's Happening Now. He interviews Joey Diaz about his life as part of a series the...y are doing on "The HoneyDew" podcast. This podcast is brought to you by: DraftKings - Download DraftKings Sportsbook now and use code CHURCH to get $1000 sign up bonus.   CBD Lion - For all of your CBD needs, from shatter to gummies, go to www.CBDLion.com and use code CHURCH for 20% off. Â
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All right, it's Monday motherfuckers kick this fucking mule Lee
Shit fucking
Welcome to the church of what's happening now everybody
I'm Ryan sickler sitting in tonight
Not really in but in and next to the one and only Joey Coco Diaz here also
Lee sigh it. This is a special edition. I guess of the church. You've never had anyone do this before now
This is an honor. I'm sure but tonight show you just like Freddie Prince. Yeah, host and come in. What's going on?
Rivers will come on. Yeah, I'm your first guest host. Yes, the fucking love it
And I love that you're here for it though. A lot of times guest hosts and you're not here. So my
So we have been documenting your life on the honeydew we have done about 40 hours over only at
We we got through 1985 and 86 last time on the honeydew so why don't we pick up here with January of 1987
January of 1987 I found myself what working at a car wash and boulder drying off cars
That was one of those guys outside freezing freezing drying off cars. I started the job
Like the second week of December and I worked damn minimum wage plus tips
All right. And so just let me refresh here. How old are you in 87 now? How old are you 24? Okay?
Yeah, 24
63 and 424 so I'm
wiping down windows washing down cars and the only hustle I have are
The tips how can I steal the tips?
If you break up the tips I go from making seven to like 980 that's not gonna work for Uncle Joey
I need to kick up my income
So I figured out that if I drive the car and the guy tips me if nobody's watching it goes in my pocket
Oh, he's a hateful tips. Fuck the job. You know I'm saying also everybody
I am yeah, I am getting a nickel and I got a shirt with these fucking mooks to the moving after speed of me
So that lasted for a few weeks. I saw an ad or somebody told me
about a body shop
That was hiring a detailing apprentices
Now I wasn't fucking getting rich at the car wash. I
went down to this
whatever the fuck it was and
I apply and the guy happens to be from New York
Just a body shop the body shop paint shop detailing shop
And he goes I am looking for a good guy, but it's it may not be you I
got a position for a position called the shacker and
Where you you you watch cars you help the body guys you got to be here at six in the morning
It doesn't pay over time
It pays like 220 a week and you're here till you're here and you work hard to become a
Detailer and that's where you make your money
Well, I started there like in November January
right before the Super Bowl the Giants went to the Super Bowl against somebody and
And
Maybe the Bronco somebody when I started the week or two before the Super Bowl because they invited me
To their Super Bowl party. They're nice guys and you know, whatever I fit in but I didn't you know, I
Did I did my job. I was really good at it. I used to have to go to car dealers
So this particular body shop worked for a chain called the Crouches and Boulder
at that time that had Suzuki
Subaru
You know
Acura
He had like four or five that Mitsubishi
He had like four or five different chains and we washed those cars in Honda Metro Honda. We had or something Honda
So I became friendly with all the guys. Hey, hey doing what's going on. I would help the detailers and pick up cars
And I became friendly with this guy from Jersey and the Subaru dealership
I would go to the Subaru dealership and they'd be like the ice cream man got that. What's up, motherfucker? What up? Oh
Shit, there he is Jersey Joe. Oh shit
There was a skinny guy from Detroit that looked like a junkie real good looking
He was cool. The guy's name was Peter Pinto the manager
There was a dude named Carlos and I just became friends with him the lot boy there was working a tremendous scam
He was selling he was getting like he was one of those guys was making 350 an hour, but he was making 80,000 a year
He was getting maybe 10 an hour, but he drove like a Porsche
Because he was taking the Subaru's this SL 10 that the IN
Stereo's and
Why you bought the car he would come up to you and go when you talk to you about something
What do you want to do here this stereo sucks?
What if I could put an SL 10 in there if a hundred falls out of your pocket?
And he would all send the bank came when they they're like all the SL 10 fucking radios are missing
They're all shitty AM radios. It's fucking hilarious. This place was a
Bay
This place is crazy
So now they yell at me
What are you gonna become a salesman and I'm like, I'm no fucking car salesman stop that shit
That's the third guy. I'm like that three years. I kept bothering me to go so cause
I'm like, I'm not gonna go fucking sell cars you people are fucking crazy
So I kept and I got promoted to a detailer
And that's when you get like I forget what but the pay raise was huge
I went from making 220 to like a thousand a week
Now I'm doing some powder. I
Got a little apartment in South Boulder
My girlfriend would come over I give her a couple bumps
Eat a little monkey she'd go home and I'd redo the rest of it. I'd hold out on a
Have to go to school anyway, you suck. I thought you got more get the fuck out and then
I do my thing and
It was great. I love detailing. I really liked it. I like this to being alone
I like listening to music
Everybody there smoked pot, you know, it was really cool. But one of my best pieces of work there
Was once I started leaning I
Became a detailer right away like they said it takes 90 days
It took me like 24 days and they had no choice. I was out working everybody
I was just one of those dudes that even with a monkey on my back. I'm not working you. I ain't working for 220 a week
The thing that kept me there was a burrito lady
Burrito lady that came every day at like nine o'clock with green chili and mashed potatoes in a burrito Lee
Your head would explode. It was in a blender
She put it in the blender
You could taste the little pieces of pork in there
And she let you run a tab on and you could pay her on Friday. Oh shit. Oh, she was beautiful
I loved it, but then I was getting hot cigarettes at the time. I had a friend who was giving me hot cigarettes
I go you sell cigarettes on the road to coach. He goes. Yeah, I'll trade you cigarettes for fucking burrito
It never ends
The house will never end dog. You don't understand never and never ended. So what's the conversion?
How many cigarettes for a burrito? I don't know. I forget those days
She was I don't know what she was giving me pecan and then I would get the burritos for like a dollar or after like two dollars a dolly
Dilly delicious. I mean you couldn't live without that made me hungry. I
Would snuck cope thinking about that burrito
I'm getting six of those motherfuckers a breakfast and God every once in a while
She'd run out of them before she get to my stop like well, give me a six potato. I'm all out. What do you mean?
You're like, you know, I need to make this party happen here. I don't want the red pork
Do I look like I want red pork? I'm trying to fucking you know I'm saying
That was like the and I became partners to the dude who was on steroids and
One night I went to his house after work. He's like he kept telling me he wanted me to do him a favor
Wait, I'm just holding on one second partners in the detailing business now. No, he was a detailer. Okay big. Yo, kid
Did your own thing now? No, no, no me and him were goombas. I just got it. Got it. He watched my back
I watched he was a big white boy
Good fucking dude good family, but I went to his house. He goes can you come over with me and help me with some stuff
I thought yeah, I didn't know what to expect. I go over there. He goes listen, man
Me and my girlfriend broke up and she's doing like a shoot me with steroids
Can you shoot me with steroids? I don't know about a shoot nobody. I can't even see needles
I'm like, I don't want to do this. You should you should do some steroids. You got a great bill
You lift and I'm like, I'm not shooting it. I drank a bottle of steroid juice. That must have definitely fucked
I just drank it my face turned red for like an hour
So this is I'm talking I'm fucking
My mind guys, I'm snorting coke on the weekends
I drank a whole container of Decker the roblin one of those little syringes God knows what's gonna happen. So
It's supposed to be shot intravenously
so
This is how fucking nuts. I was at the time. I'm living with like
Another couple and they're just doing coke all the time. She's walking around with a panties
He would pass out. She come talk to me with a panties and I you know, it was just not a good scene
So I got my own apartment. I moved somewhere else and
It brazed me up a little bit like my numbers, you know, like now I had to pay real rent
I was paying like for a room in a house now. I had to pay real rent and I was making money detailing
But this cut into my fucking
Cocoa local time because I used to go to fucking that one place that serves the French fries with the endless
Red Robin Red Robin used to make Cocoa Locos. I'd make a tip like two extra vokas in there
They make the best top shelf margarita in the country at the time for 450 red Rob my credit card
I was just margarita margarita margarita red Robin red bra
I would go to Red Robin every night through two margaritas to two top shelves through two bumps and fucking from there
Whatever you need me to do. I'll do you know saying I would have a little car sale when he drive me home
He kept asking you know, I'm no more coke. Nah, I did it all. I had to grab my pocket. I go home and fucking
Bang out blow and then I got promoted now
I'm thinking about the salesmanship. The guy told me what they're making over there
And it was a lot more than what I was making
I'm like, should I go with himself fucking cars? I
Don't know about cars and these are the same ones the Acura's the Subaru's the midst of this is super, okay
So these guys back then they had to what the brat. They were the one with the seats in the back
Remember those suicide?
Brat in a bunch of great cars back there
So I'm gonna be this real decisive mode, but what happened was
There was a crew of detailers and this just happened to me on all places
What happened was I started out working. I
Started how to figure out the system
The system was to do two new cars a day and three used cars
That's where your money's at the two new cars with easy money
You just ripped the paper off you got to put a certain chemical on them to take the Cosmoline off
You put the rims on your armor all the inside you put the mats down you wash the car and you dry it
That's it. It's no big deal. Nobody's ever sat in the car
You just put the hubcaps on put the fucking mats in you know a couple things you gotta
Set the stations whatever the fuck they want then you take it to the thing I could do two of those in an hour
So I would make two fucking runs and they never heard of that
I'm like why go make runs and pick them up
Let's get to done and I did two canoe cars by the 11 and then I jumped on three used cars
I was making some good fucking money, but they started fucking with me
You know, they wouldn't give me a bay. They would go off. You could park two cars out there
We could put two cars in here
So it's like really four against three and the supervisor like them
So I'm like this supervisor really wants to fuck with me and then like a week after that one day
He goes, I'm gonna fucking right you up
In support nation something crazy because I told him I'll do the car outside. No big deal. You can't do it outside
I go relax. Watch your fucking tone and
But the manager was from New York and the manager knew I was little fucked up and the owner was a great white dude
You know those white dudes that drink whiskey and they don't watch porn
But they appreciate a good sense of humor like you could tell that the dude was uptight and shit
Yeah, he was just a great white dude
But he liked me because I fucking made money and I hustled my ass off
You know, I was getting in there with him at six in the morning. You weren't supposed to be that too late
If I started coke till five, what's the difference? Oh, yeah, I sit here and look out the window by myself
I might as well go pick up piece of fucking 30 40 dollars at the time. That was my mentality. So they started picking on me
They started fucking me like they really you're gonna fuck with me and at that time I had the whole body shop wide
I knew where to get weed. I knew where to get coke. I knew who was selling this who was selling that
There was a creepy dude who installed stereos there creepy as fuck
In what way what was every day man? I went to the strip club last night. Oh, I met this girl Melinda a working name was gonna
You know, he's got a fake real name
Like just a creepy strip club guy
He knew all the strip clubs when people would talk about strip clubs
He come out and give you cards for VIP of this one
He was friends with the band the rental the bandero's bike gang. I got reefer from him. I got coke from him
He sold a bunch of shit, but he had everything a guy
That was trying to prove something had tinted windows allowed stereo
Tattoos leather jacket a motorcycle a pit bull
Anything that a guy needs to get attention. Yeah, he was just
But he was like a half a retard, but I kind of like them his drugs were good
Always told me about dirty pussy how he was finger these strippers and he would fuck them and all this shit
So it's big in the drugs. Can we smoke during this? You can do it
You can let your ass along
So
One day this dude Dirk
Gets in my face
About some shit. I've told this story before but I don't think I've told it to you Ryan sicker
I want to hear now. I'm fucking nuts Ryan sick. I'm 24
Fresh out of fucking Jersey. I just slept in benches. I just went through that whole fucking homeless thing
You know now I'm living in Boulder, but I'm keeping a lid on it
I got a girlfriend. I have to go to a family's house every Sunday to eat. They're very nice people
They're from Buffalo
They're from Buffalo, New York, they're very nice people I appreciate them
So I got to act like a fucking man and these people get in my faces
So there was particularly two white dudes both from Minneapolis, Minnesota
That would fuck with me and they had a and they would beat me because they had the
Fucking the supervisor in their corner
So one day I see the supervisor walking in and I don't know what he took his jacket off and he hung it up
And I don't know what made me do this, but this is the mind of Joey Diaz
You know that the dude thought he got over on me, but I'm gonna show him he I'm gonna get over on him
I just didn't know how and all of a sudden the good Lord
That's something he does every fucking day. He kills a mouse. I
Turn around and there's a dead mouse
Four-foot from me. Maybe three inches long. I see that everybody's washing cars. They go. What can I do with this mouse?
I got a paper towel. I pick it up by the town. I put it in the guy's pocket
The supervisor's pocket. I put in his pocket. I get high. I keep working on cars. I forget about the whole thing
The next morning I'm in there six o'clock buzzing out of car and you hear a car come in like
And he gets out in the car he goes what the fuck shot it down
Shot it down. I just got into a major car accident
He goes I reached in my pocket for cigarettes and somebody put a mouse in there
By the end of the day, I'm gonna find out who it is
I have an idea who it is and I'm fucking you know me dog. I'm like, I hope you find the
But that motherfucking knew it was me or some other guy his car was all crashed up fuck them
Fuck them
So right there knew it was time for me to go
So by April 15th
I
April now everybody from 1980s. I tell the fucking I tell the fucking
The fucking car the dealership to I caught him a deal I
Tell the detail guys that I'm gonna go sell cars for one day and try it and after one day
I don't know if I like it or not
And
They said okay
When do you want to do this I go Monday?
So I put together what I had as a suit at that time
And I went there Monday. They told me to be that eight to learn about some cars
And they gave me to this guy named Jimmy Wheeler God rest his soul. I still to his son
I still talk to his son on amazing that you remember the Cody Wheeler. I remember this guy's name because
He was the first guy that made me feel like family without being at home
He was what one of those guys that he was willing to take a bullet for you and again God put this guy in my life
And on the first day, he just dug me. We were big-time Bruce Lee fans. That's why I brought you the shirt
Thank you for that shirt
And he had the tower g kundo signed by Bruce Lee. Nobody had that at the time
And he was from Detroit
He just impressed the shit out of me and he gave me a shirt once
Detroit the murder capital of the United States of America. It was my favorite shirt. I wore it all summer long
People said me. Why do you wear that shirt? It's disgusting. I fucking love Detroit
I want to go to fucking Detroit like I'm ready for Detroit. Fuck these pussies like that's how crazy. I was at the time and
That first day with Jim Wheeler and up selling three cars
Making a thousand bucks on paper and like two hundred and spiff's cash
At seven o'clock, I called the body shop and told him to suck my dick
I'm never washing the car again. I
Went to my mother-in-law. God bless her soul my ex-mother-in-law who I love Daly at the time
And she lent me her made DNF card and she let me charge $500. I bought three suits
shirts pants and
I was all in guys
You were selling cars in Denver. Well, not Denver Boulder and the first month I ended up selling 14 cars damn
I was the same every other day damn near I was a salesman of the month. I think I came in second
Did you get a special spot and all that shit? Yeah, like I got a demo for free
You had to sell 12 cars to get your car for free or you had to pay 300 a month
So that was the magic number 12 you get your demo and then dad weird bonuses like once you sell
10 cars your bonus goes from 20 to 30 percent
11 cars 35 percent 12 cars 40 percent
15 cars
40 percent plus a 500 hour cash bonus they worked it plus every new Subaru you called
every new Subaru you sold you ripped the thing and
You looked at it and they would even give you money or you spun the wheel you called Subaru and they'd tell you you won
$350 and you'll get your check in the mail
So the first month I think I made like eight grand
Are you kidding me? I paid my mother-in-law back. I went out and bought some really nice suits and I was all in
This is me. I bought the nicest shirts. I got them dry cleaned. I cut my hair
Don't get me wrong. I was doing coke four out of five nights
Don't forget to lay that in there
Don't forget to lay that in there because that's the truth. I fucking
Snorted coke. I had a girlfriend who I loved that had been with her at the time
At the time we had been together
For two and a half years. It was a rough two and a half years, but we loved each other
She was living with her mother. I got an apartment
We were young, you know
And during the week she would stay home and I would leave the dealer at nine
Three nights a week I actually went home changed
Marinated the steak one in the garage lifted weights and then cook the steak either and I go to bed 1111 30
Before nights a week. I was pretty much fucking
Come home with three margaritas in me
Go on my bedroom put pyjamas on get the coke out sneak a bottle in there
And only come out to go to the bathroom because I had three other roommates
Hmm at three I had a chick a little chubby chick that was beautiful a parent's own the printing shop
I had a guy that was part of Toastmasters and I had a white guy that was just a creepy guy that one of the boat every day
That's all he did. What'd you do? I went on the boat
Where in the river? What are you doing?
I didn't really talk to me. Yeah, I didn't go to the community room at night
I sat in the back and I was tight with the redhead the redhead sold weed
So we kind of became tight. So I had a dog
named Hercules
so I had to go home and walk the dog every day and do that shit and
One day new salesman came in and his name was Kent Vella
Took I want to ask you two questions. Okay, you said ex-mother-in-law, right?
You didn't even talk about
Marriage yet, right? She you know, that's who she is. We'll get to that. We'll get copy that now
She was the mother of the girl. I was dating at the time got it
I want to ask you about being a salesman because you said you were all in so you probably liked it
You seem like you liked it at least love it, right?
The parallels between I find that because I have a friend of mine
It's a salesman between stand-up and salesman is so there are a lot of similarities like you got to get them
Within that first six until you become a comedy salesman. You'll never become a comic
That's right. You could write jokes or you want until you learn how to sell them
You'll never become a comic and that's what happened with me
I took my comedy my car learn how to sell and I wanted to go into the selling mode of it
Mm-hmm, you know, it's really different. So
The the but it's an interesting blueprint to apply instead of try hey by this car
It was the best thing that I ever did in my life. Fuck. Yeah, it gave me a purpose
I went in there in the mornings. I did it. I watched the guy that was doing the best and I mimicked him and
What does that mean?
How you doing Lisa? I was going on. He was very nice to you. He pushed a little bit
It's just something we could do today to get you out of that car. Well, my wife's not here
There's your wife fucking, you know, you don't talk to him like that. These are white people involved
You couldn't break that ball. Yeah, you know, there's some people all I'll take a look at the numbers
Okay, and there's some people let me come back and you bring them inside professionally sit them down and set an appointment with them
I did all that stuff and when they gave me a card. I would call mr.
Sayat, how are you tomorrow when you come in before you come in? What do you mean tomorrow?
I remind you you have an appointment tomorrow one o'clock. I want you to have a question
Prepared for me for the car. Like, you know, these are how you become a salesman
if he comes in and looks at the car and
gets a number
Next morning I come in I write a letter
Yeah, yeah, back then back then when you hand read a letter. It's mean something
Not like a letter that says dear and I put in
Ryan and I signed it at the bottom. You know I'm saying
No, no, no, so you had to do all those steps
and I really believed in him and
Subaru was great to work for
The first two months was great to work for them
Then the third month it was great to work for them then things started going a little sour when you're a salesman
The third month you sell cars the first two months because you're stupid
You're stupid
But then the third month now you believe you drink your own gin you drink your own juice
And you go I saw like four cars my third month
And it cracked me
What did you think did you think you weren't good? Did you think shit changed? What was it this sort of fucking with you?
It was just
Everything plus I was starting to do coke a lot there like it was known
As a coke dealership like I still remember you said a coke dealer everybody was doing
Like if they were if the manager did it the assistant manager did it if there was 12 salesmen
8000 did it
You know it was two I remember like being there when it snowed
Like in April one day it snowed and we were shoveling snow
And we were all drinking a bottle of blackberry brandy like the manager one and got us all blackberry brandy
And the whole day we worked all fucked up on blackberry brandy. I mean I did have
But I really believed in it. I wasn't stealing at the time
I was the only sin I was doing was doing coke
I was with my girlfriend on the weekends. I was with her from saturday to sunday night, you know
She'd spend saturday night with me
We'd do a little fucking tuturutes
And then my behavior changed the third month
I bought a car from them
I
Said let me I go buy one of these fucking used cars at what what is it about?
Did did did the state of Colorado because I feel like everybody's got a Subaru out there?
Did they did is there a today's welcome Subaru in or something like that? It just works when you see
They're everywhere happens. You could look at me and go. I hate that fucking Subaru
Go to Colorado bring your car. Good luck. Yeah come see me in november when you're spending around the circus
You get the four-wheel drive because your car's not that heavy. There's something it's just too much once you see it
Once you see a car perform like that and that type of weather
That stays with you forever
You know, I don't know how many times I saw Cadillac and the whole family's like, what are we doing?
You're in your Subaru doing 90 up the hill
Beep beep
No for me
Why would you buy a car if they were giving them up for free?
Because I just wanted like a you could buy a car and flip them
So I was like, maybe I'll flip this car. It was a little Toyota
They wanted 1,500 bucks
But they took like 3,000 out of my check
And I got pissed on a Saturday
And I fucking got an ax handle and I wanted top one of the cars
No, and I said I want my money. I'm gonna start breaking windshields in front of customers and shit
And this guy came over
Because I already had an eight ball on my mind. I already had an eight ball on my mind
You can't do this to me. We got paid on a Saturday and the check was light and I had to pay rent
But there wasn't enough for the eight ball. I already told the guy I was coming. He already had it
What do you mean you got money for the eight ball?
It's a really weird dynamic with just what what's about to happen in my life
When I'm screaming and yelling I'm gonna break the windshield
Jim Wheeler, who's my brother comes out. He's like, Joey, you're reacting
Peter Pinto who comes up says Joey. You're reacting. I was mad at Peter. I'm like, you lied to me on this fucking deal
You told me 1,500. You didn't say nothing about $800 dealers
Fucking tax and all this shit. And he's like, get off the car. We'll talk about I'm like, I'm not getting off the car
How many people are out there you think?
30 people
I will break this fucking glass
Right now if I don't get my money and there was a guy
If I was 24
This guy was about 40
to 48
Tough guy still built
I could tell he came from something. I just didn't know what
We got into a misunderstanding one day over a customer
At the last moment he came over and said
And he gave me the guy's car and I'm like, what's this? And he goes, I talked to the guy two days ago
I go, so you've been sitting there for two hours
Seeing me work with the guy since the guy talked to you. You didn't jump in
Now when the deal is done
You want to throw your car and I took the car and I threw it back at him. I left don't work that way dog
Eggers you did not disrespect me like that. I go, think about what you're doing to me
You're disrespecting me and he's like, you know, if you like that we could go outside and you want to fucking go outside
And all of a sudden all hell broke loose
All hell broke loose, you know, I didn't throw my hands. He didn't throw his
I told him to relax, you know, I'll fuck you up. You guys went outside. There was a bunch of holding it back
No, everybody held his back and went to the opposite corners
That was it. We avoided each other for like two weeks
Three weeks. We just avoided each other
We cut a deal. I told him take 200 out. That's it. He agreed to it
and uh, that was it and
In the middle of all this yelling and screaming that same guy
Comes over and he goes joseph
Joseph and I go what?
And he goes, how much money do you need?
500
500
Get down
He peels off five he goes here
Can I talk to you for a second, sir?
And I go, yeah, and he goes I please advise you to go home
You're gonna ruin it for us and we're not gonna send no cars here
And you're not gonna send no cars in the condition you're in
And I'm like, you're like a nosy motherfucker, aren't you?
But you gave me a nickel. I'm not gonna argue with you. I can get like cocaine
I'll take that 500 and your two cents and I'm gonna get the chocolate
Carlos Valverde drove me home
And I went and got my coke and the whole thing more happened, but I don't want to talk like this was a wild day
Carlos asked me to use the bathroom
Two hours in the bathroom. He comes out la bomba down
La bomb. Yeah, you know, he's deep into the la bomba powder
And he leaves. I mean, I'm living and I'm surrounded
so
I go back Monday. I think we work out the car
You know what?
I didn't need this in my life
I had a buddy who worked down the corner
at the chrysalis apartment store
Let me go down there with him. Those are white people
There's a holistus
It's these two retarded brothers in the father fucking
Drove down the town the stagecoach. So I'm supposed to be impressed
It's two retarded brothers
They bought the first dodge dealership in town. Who do I give a fuck?
I go down there. They're the nicest white people in the world. Can I just say this is what I love about you
So far we have robbed jewelry stores. We have robbed gas stations now
We're hustling auto dealer ships. You you said you seem to gravitate to one and then hustle the circuit
You're like different seasons by the wire. I'm gonna be as honest to god with everybody
When I was at bill crowd Subaru those first 90 days
I took my job very seriously. I didn't steal nothing
I knew that the the lot boy was stealing. I smoked pop behind the building
I mean that's not steal. I didn't call but I didn't do anything
I really tried to turn my life around. Let's get that straight
The ghost of cocaine was still calling me
I still had little bits of anger from my stepdad
but uh
Nothing seriously nothing the addiction was the most important thing
What it was becoming it was silent
I go over to Hollister I get the fucking appointment and I get the job
I start working at Hollister. Maybe may 15th now your car salesman for dodge christler. You say
I start working over there. Maybe june july dodge christler now dodge christler
I sell christler
And they sell dodge across the way
I could sell I sell christler
I could sell dodge if I have to but I don't want to go over that because they call themselves the dodge boys
so
I didn't have time
to fucking hang out with
Oh the dodge boys
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, that's a good one. Lee
That's garlic that's supposed to be wet
so
I go to work for the Hollister
And you know what happens to me over there, man?
I meet a jewish guy
That is one of the best jewish men I've ever met in my life. His name is art presley
And art knew the science of selling
He was a college graduate. He was from the Bronx
He was a big fucking jew six foot whatever
sloppy
But when it came to selling he was a bad when he got up
If he got up off his desk
You're buying a car
He was intimidating and fucked you up not that he was he was intimidating. He was jewish
But it had a sweetheart and only a jew would have
There was two jews in that town like that. There was him and dr. Mazzalca
Dr. Mazzalca was a big-ass jew that delivered babies
And he was from the Bronx. He was from the Bronx
Him and his wife were both doctors in the same house calls and shit. No, no, no, no, they delivered babies
But they were pediatricians, but they
They were a team
The wife was like this model
And then the husband was a guy like me, but only six or four
Had 50 pounds and he would walk in and go hey, you gained some weight this month
And you everybody wanted to have a baby with Mazzalca
Because he had saved a child one time when a woman was dying
So people actually scheduled their kids so they can have Mazzalca take their kids out
That's how busy his practice was so
We're getting to that later right now. Let's leave it. But it was art presley had that gift
When art presley got up, I don't care what you were apart
I don't care if you wanted
Your payment to be 350. He was getting you for 480. I don't know how he did it
And he started showing me how to do it
But art presley also had a vice
He sold coke. I can't get away
He sold it. I can't get away from
He made a call
He made he used to make a call and the guy would come
But the business was so good
At that job that he just used to have the guy come and drop an ounce off
And each salesman would take an eight ball. He was fucking crazy
There was four salesmen
One kid was a great kid from like south dakota
I used to burn him on weed. He used to buy weeds with me and I used to spray water at it and make it heavier
Then they get back to south dakota was like a pound less
Pound less
People would be getting back hands. The indians would be smacking them
Then there was another guy that looked like lee harvey oswald
That he was kind of creepy. He would get so coked up
He would people would bang on his window. Sir, sir. Can you help us with a car and he'd go go away?
Go away
That's how coked up he would get but there was this one guy that was a coke fiend
Super salesman and it was me against him
every fucking month
And I would beat him by
Witches tit
What's your uh, like what kind of number are you doing on a month like that? Are you in the teens like what's at that place?
If you sold 10 cars, you were a fucking superstar. Yeah a month. That was a free car a car bonus
After seven cars, it was free
And every car after that was 500 but it was a mom and pop store closed at eight. Yeah
People went in there you couldn't really press room
But 120 cars a year out of that's what you got to pull if you're doing 10 a month
I was pulling like six grand the month over there. I wasn't getting rich and after taxes. I really wasn't getting rich guys
But it was good money for a fucking 24. Yeah. Yeah, it was great money. I dressed nice. I looked nice
I felt good about myself, but I started that monkey on my back
And then I started wiring the place
I had my buddy come into town
And I got him a job on the lot on the lot and he started fucking
You know
Terrorized and like me and him were just this is what we did
You get both of us together in your business your business is done
Your business is done
Vice august I was
I'm snorting up a storm
Um, the kid robbed the super salesman
He started selling coke because art didn't want to sell it no more
But rob
Would snort it and leave it in the office. He would hide it
And I would watch where he'd hide it
So I'd buy coke from him and then
At six in the morning when service opened I would shoot down there
Running the office going to ceiling
Take coke off from every package put aspirin powder in there
Close them up and put them back in the ceiling. You can't imagine this
I did this to him for like a month
On top of that I was pulling the poor a torture chamber around him. What's that? He used to love
He always believed he sold more cars when he had a red Parker pen
There was a mall across the street that sold pens things remembered
And I forgot the way how to rob them. I would go over your shit engraved and all that go over there and get it
Ask them how to get a cross pen and then they would open the thing
They would open it
They would open the thing and they'd walk away and I'd steal all the pens. I mean I was crazy
At this place I went crazy. I got the key to the soda machine
It was my own personal ATM. I would go in and just steal the change
And the guy would leave cash
He would leave cash for the change like 200 dollars. I would take the 200
It was we were running a muck over there. I mean I was totally out of control
I was selling weed to the indians every saturday
I was buying it from the creepy guy at the strip at the body shop. Okay, the white guy. So
This goes on over there at
At this fucking thing. We go into september
We're I remember the twins doing the world series or something like that the twins. Yeah at that year 87 maybe
The twins are in the world series somebody somebody weird
I remember I started the world series there
The cocaine got so bad there
That the general manager came up and said
I got to break this ring up
you guys
a way below average like
Whatever the fuck is going on up here
We were four guys that did not want to talk to people. We were either up in the night before
Or we were just getting blasted. I mean there was a room there
That they had coffee and cookies if you went in the cabinet they had every type of booze there
It became a really toxic place for me. I was living on jack jack jack in the box
Seafood and crab salad
Jack in the box used to have a a seafood and crab salad
I thought I was eating that and I was healthy. It was horrible
Who was one of the twinkies in there 87 god damn it Joey hands 87 was twins against the cardinal
There you go. You bad motherfuckers because the indian kid was cheering for the twins from minnesota because he's from south dakota
So all this shit's going on and I don't know what happened
I got into I really can't I don't know what happened people
Next thing, you know, I get into an argument with them and my phone rings. It's my buddy Jim Wheeler
He goes what's going on down there
And I go, you know, I'm doing my thing. You know, and he goes listen Joey
Peter Pinto is gone
Wayne means is here now. It's a different organization
They've been talking about you know, what do you need? You need a little something to come over
I go ask him to give me a nickel
And I'll be over there tomorrow and I went up to heart like a man
I told him I'm going to build crowds and he told me he goes you're making a mistake Joey
We're going to clean this up over here
We're going to expand the dodge. Don't leave. Don't go to build crowds. They're fucking crazy over there
I go there making eight nine ten grand a month
I'm over here if I'm here nine to nine making five grand
It's a no brain. I get it. It's a different type of store
There's some people who like that mom and pop feeling. I need action
Once I'm down for two hours. I'm done
I need to talk to people at nine when people are dropping their car off the service as they're walking out
What are you doing here? Oh nothing. I'm getting a certain amount. What year?
And you start talking to them
And that's how you saw the car
Because that guy you talked to you didn't pressure him
When you say anything you like nah, I like my car a lot. Yes. Subarus are great. That's a tremendous car
But next time you come looking for a car. That's for the cuban
So I go back to
Build crowd Subaru and it is
The beginning of november of 1987
It is a rock fest
Within the first three fucking days
I made two thousand dollars. I mean it is
It was me this guy named storm and normal wet
now
Storm and normal that was in the halfway house
For what what he was he did something
He was one of the best salesmen I ever saw in my life
Storm and Norman sold the first car of the day
every day
Like before I got there like Joey, what do you see this guy?
Like he just got out of the jail watch
This guy's got like nine kids watch his magic
But when he was in the halfway out, this is so weird to see
Because I even dropped him off at the halfway house a few nights
In a few nights I do bumps with him and I go aren't you worried they're gonna catch any go I got all set up
He would get a hot water bottle with real piss
And tie it to his body with a hose
And and then take the hose and scotch tape it to his dick
And he let the hose open up
I mean he had a cap on it. He knew one day we're gonna test them
I'm like, you're fucking nuts. You go you do all this to get high
And he this is what he did, you know
So it was november of 87
I'm getting fucked up
and
one day
I pop up and who's there that kid can't go
That I met before a good-looking young kid
Coke fiend him and this guy named Tom Ohm
Were fucking all day
Like when I worked with them as soon as you got that 830 at a sales meeting
By nine one of them was in the car going to a liquor store
And they'd mix and they'd be out there with cups
You think they were drinking coffee?
They were drinking martinis
You know, so I'm working with some heavy-duty fiends, but
Jim Wheeler had my back. He was I reported directly to him
It was a liner closed the store
But I closed my own deals with Jim that was part of my deal
And this Wayne means guy
Was a great fucking guy
But guess who else was there
The dude who gave me the 500
He was still working there
And me and him had still had kind of weird feelings
So
It's like my second day's back
Third day fifth day back
I sold I made two thousand dollars in five days
And I get there one morning and who's there but Kent
They go he goes you remember me. I go hey, yeah, what's happened?
Where are you been? He goes, oh
You have no idea and at that time I used to read the boulder paper
And there was a lot of drug things going on
A lot of weird cocaine shit. Some guy jumped off a balcony
The cops were knocking on his door. He jumped off the balcony and he broke he broke both legs
uh a Cuban kid
They his body disappeared from the University of Boulder campus
Uh, they can't this car was blood splattered
They couldn't find the details of what was going on
And I read about this crazy guy that
escaped from a fucking
escaped from a hospital or something like that and
So I'm talking to this fellow guy and I go so where you been
He goes I had to go to Arizona for a few months. I had a little problem here
I go what was the problem?
He goes well, I got a
DUI
And I crashed the car and when they took me to the hospital
I broke into the pharmacy
Stolen a bottle of liquor cocaine and pills and ran out of there and they caught me
So now they got me on these charges. I'm gonna have to do time
And I go Phelps all you're gonna have to do is like six or a year. It's no big deal
He's like fuck that. They're not putting me in jail
You know and I put me in jail. I got a fucking idea. So that was I go, you know
What kind of idea how the fuck are you gonna get out of jail if you don't pay an attorney?
You just started here. You haven't sold any cars. What is your due date?
And he's telling me what his due date is blah blah blah
And then november of 87 was when the stock market crashed
Okay, so we went from selling a bunch of cars
to dead
and still
Storm and Norman were selling the car a day a day
The world crashed look at the stock market crash of 87. What was the date?
So that happened and we were all in the lot
So there was a lot of desperation on the lot
So
this veligai
That same morning when I get there and I meet him and he says I
After about a half hour
I'll cover 20 seconds. Yeah. So right there. It was terrible. Like I went over there
Worked for about a week and then it just went downhill
And then valor came over the homeboy still banging one a day out right one day out. So now I'm sitting there with homeboy
and
He says to me can you give me a ride?
Real quick. I have to get some
I go, why can't you ride? He goes because I got no driver's license
He goes when I sell a car, I have to split with everybody. So you'll be my partner
On every car deal, which was nice because now I get you know, and I'll take him
So I get a car and I get where you guys going. He needs to go to the post office
So I had a p.o box
But next to it was a liquor store
It was 9 15 the morning gentlemen
That motherfucker went into the liquor store
Came out with a bottle of vodka and started drinking it like it was fucking coffee
Takes out this cocaine
And gives me a blast of it and it's super duper fucking coke
And we go back to the dealership and he's telling me about
You know
Can you get a bit of any coke and I'm like, you know, I could do whatever I could do I could do okay selling coke
And he goes I got this guy the guy I'm staying with
He goes my I go, what is your plan? How are you gonna get out of jail? He goes, what I'm gonna do is
I'm gonna steal a coke from my roommate to sell on the street
Excuse me
Make enough money and go to arizona and hide out
And I go Kent. That's not a good idea because there's a thing called a warrant. Yeah, they're gonna
It's not hard to find you know, it's 87 not 1927. So I asked him I go, how much coke are you talking about?
And he goes like two keys
And right away
My shit goes right up and I'm like
This guy's going down
I'll never forget like talking to him
And going in and I could use long distance at the dealership. I knew the code
On the phones, yeah
And I still remember calling my buddies in jersey and them telling me what they're doing
The parties they're having on the mark mountain they're getting fucked up
That one night they were getting chased by cops
And they threw coke out the window
And the next day they went back and there was a bunch of dig deer that were dead
eating the coke
And I'm like, what the fuck are you guys talking about?
And they're like, what the fuck are you doing with your life in colorado? Get back
You're missing a party with snorting every fucking night. Nobody's got jobs
We're all getting taken care of. I'm like, fuck it. I'll be on the next plan and I'm coming with a package
I'm gonna rob this fucking guy
So I take this guy home that night
And I'm milking him for more information
I'm like, how much money are you looking for the two kilos? And he's like, I don't know what he told me, you know
And I go, you know what? I know a guy
So I ran home I ran back to the dealership and I called my buddy
God rest his soul, Darren Raido and I go, Darren
I got a pigeon, bro. If you come out here, we could take this motherfucker down and
It's two kilos. It's pure
And he tells me goes cocoa. I can't I got this job
Because this was like a rush job
This is like we're going in like in two days
We gotta do this. So
I go home that night and my buddy was living with me. He was my brother. He's my best friend
I know his mother. I know his grandmother. They took me in their house
I could ask him to do it
But I didn't feel right. I didn't want to I don't like taking people down dark streets
If that's what you want to do
I'll give you work
But I'm not going to talk Lee into robbing a bank. That's not fair to Lee. I'm not that type of person
I've never been that type of person
If Lee comes to me and he goes Joey, I want to fuck 10 hookers and get my balls licked
I go, do you have $2,000? And he'll go, no, I'll go. Well, I do know a place
Where there's $3,000 and if you help me rob it, I'll give you the two to get your balls
Yeah, right if Lee goes if you could do that. I can make that happen. Let's go take this motherfucker down. I was one of those guys
Oh, you need that. Okay. Well, if you need this, I'm the type of guy that I know where there's five grand
But you got to go home and get your your mop or a knife. You got to do something
It's very helpful. You got to earn your keep. You got to be a half a lookout. You got to kick somebody in the stomach
You got to do something so half a look out. Yeah, you got to be a half a look
I work with a half a lookout
so
I dropped this fellow off and I go home and I'm banging my head off the wall
Of how I'm gonna rob this guy because no matter what I'm gonna have to show him
Some cash I got a flash
If he's looking for 40 or 30, I got a flash 10 of them for him to open up
And then I'll just take the kilo and the 10 back
You know I'm saying like, you know me. I'll work it one way or the other
So I'm banging my head for two fucking days
How the fuck
And he's bringing coke to work and this coke is electric
it's real
1987
powder
You know just beautiful. You could smell it before you walked in the room
I mean, it was just perfect. I could have cut it and made a fucking payday with it
The girl I'm dating at the time
We're not doing so good
We've been together four years, but the relationship was a little stale since she moved in with her mother
The first three years of our relationship. We were together all day
Now we're like
Ah, you know
We see each other twice during the week
And then we mess around on the weekends
But it was usually drug related. We start getting high saturday night
You know, it was kind of weird. She was graduating from some like
Head cutting salon and I didn't go to the graduation. I was too busy selling cars
So we didn't talk for like two or three days
And in those two or three days I figured out that the only guy that was gonna help me
Rob this fucking
Vella guy
Was the goofy guy
With the motorcycle and the people. Yeah
He got a starter kid. So I go to him
And I kind of tell him what's going on. He's like that's perfect
Because I was looking for a big heist
I go what are you looking for a house or whatever he goes? No
And right here, I should have known I should have shot myself
He goes nah
He goes there's this stripper. I'm in love with
A name is jennifer. I don't know if her name was jennifer guys. I'm just using a name here
He tells me a name is jennifer or whatever or that
He's got a problem. She's living on his he's he's she's living in his house
She's living in his bedroom
But he's sleeping on the couch
Because she wants to be with him
But she can't
Because she's catholic
And she's still married
And until she gets divorced she can't be with him
Wait a second. You met her at an all nude
BYO be all nude and the woman was gorgeous. Let's not get me wrong yet. I would cut somebody's finger off of this
Okay, I've never heard anybody say some of these finger was coming off of this broad. She was beautiful
Big tates nice juicy ass. She was beautiful. It's half spanish white
Just a knockout. She was she was working this poor fucking idiot
So he goes i'm in i'm in i'm robbing with you
So we set it up
For the following tuesday like all weekend i'm stalling them
He's like you gotta get a buyer. You gotta get a buyer. I gotta buy
But i'm i'm making them come i'm telling them i got the indians from south dakota
They're gonna send somebody down
Give me till tuesday
Till tuesday tuesday
And the whole weekend went by he's calling me one of them and i'm going over there picking up
Give me a little gram on the um till tuesday until the indians come nobody'll know nothing
And he's stealing from his roommate the whole fucking thing
And tuesday comes tuesday morning comes i got a call from tidwell
That was the idiot with the car and the dogs his shit
And he goes my mother owns a house
On 28th street it's vacant
Bring them over there
We'll
Get him to bring the coke
Before i flash the money
I'll rob the bothies and handcuff bothies
And then i'll leave and then i'll split the money with you
I like the idea
But i didn't
I don't want to get handcuffed with nobody. There was no cell phones in those days
And also just don't trust anybody and i just knew that this guy
Something wasn't right. So i wake up that morning
november tuesday the 18th 1987
I got a dental appointment like tomorrow at nine in the morning. I got a dental appointment. Look at my tooth. That's my cocaine tooth
I
Did that yeah, it cracked the other day. That was me original cocaine tooth when i stopped doing coke that tooth was black
And i went to the dentist this fucking jewish guy in bevelly hills
He wanted 2000 just went to walk in he was one of those dentists because he was like jamie lee curtis
Yeah, right somebody like thought like that's a dentist i needed i asked a friend like do you have a dentist?
Yeah, he's in bevelly hills what there's none in the valley
so
this guy
Told me he goes your little cocaine tooth. He knew it's gonna cost like 25 000. I'm like i'm like i don't have 25 000
I go uh
He goes what do you have it's like three days before christmas. I go 500
And he goes i'm gonna put a cap on it. It's only gonna last for about six months
Well, it lasted 13 years did it really it fell off during fucking covet
I'm walking. I can't even smile. I'm thankful for the fucking mask
I look like hill billy joe walking around
so
I fucking uh
Set it up for tuesday at one o'clock
In the afternoon the plan was
I go pick him up. He gets the blow brings it
We walk in he robs us
He takes the coke
He goes to a certain spot
We walk out of there when I get home I call tidwell and we split the take
That was the plan
I did not like it. I felt I was like I cheated somewhere another
So I go let me figure. Let's see how we could do this
Maybe I could get to this before this
So I call veller he tells me to pick him up
I go to his house and the funny thing is that when I pull up in front of his house
I make a mental note that
He lives across from the halfway house
From bctc where I used to drive normal let it night
Okay, this is fucking weird. This is how weird life is
I even made a mental note he's right there by storm and Norman
So I go upstairs it's about 12 and they have to 12 o'clock
I walk in
I give him a hug. He's already jazzed up this kid had been up for like three days
He goes you want to align? Yeah
We go in the room we do a line he opens up the draw and he shows me the bottom of a grinder
But it's pretty much filled
Next to the grinder. There's about 2000 and cash
And next to the cash
There's a baggy
with like a loose ounce
And I go where the kilo's
Where the kilo's at and he goes the kilo's
Are in the ceiling in the living room
You have to push up the ceiling tile and then get the kilo
He goes it's in the middle. So what I'm going to do is
Is just take a sample
So right there. I'm fucked
I go no, you got to bring it all this guy wants to buy it all. He just don't want to sample
He goes no, I'm going to give him a nice eight ball
sample that's in here
And there's still a baggy here. That's an ounce
Because he went in there and did a couple bumps first and it was all rocky. It was close to an ounce
So
He closes the draw
And I'm like, I'm already fucked
I hope that tidwell is smart enough
That when he gets down there, he could flash the cash
And we come back and rob this fucking guy once and for all
So me and vella getting my car
We drive down to fucking uh
Whatever's place
Now for sake of argument, I could I could you know
I have a weapon in the trunk
That I had had from 85 in aspen when I was buying guns. I always kept one nine millimeter
I didn't plan on using it. There was nothing
I walked into the house with
Tidwell first of all, there's no fucking furniture
I'm like walking into the Irishman
He might as well put plastic on the floor
So
He comes out with his fucking pit bull. Why is the pit bull here?
Oh, please like did you bring the stuff and we're like, yeah show him kent
Kent shows him the coke and he fucking pulls out
A gun
Immediately immediately
immediately
And then
Frozen machine gun at me. Yeah, and he goes joey tie him up. So now I'm the bad guy
Oh, now you just threw me into the shit you dumb motherfucker
So the kids looking at me like what's going on here? I go
Listen, we're taking that coke
You know how to break the bad news to him. He's like you can't I need that. I'm gonna go to jail. I'm like, listen
We're taking that code
So this is the dude you've worked with all this time and everything. Yeah, so you were taking the coke. I'm sorry
It was just
You know, so for me, I'm getting the kilo
I could do a lot with a kilo
I could I could sell 10,000
For me, I was gonna get 10,000 and snort the rest
And let the pieces floor where the fuck they made jack. I got 10,000 cash. I don't give a fuck
10,000 to me in those days is gonna be a million dollars. So
He uh, throws me the gun, you know
But they but originally the plan was you're a hostage also. You don't know nothing
Not like that. I say face and the whole thing
Fucking weird situation
So now this is where it gets tricky, you know, it's in court documentation
So I'm not saying nothing out of line
For you people who are waiting for me to say something out of line
Tidwell goes I'm gonna go to his house and check it out
I go
Going to draw
And that's where the coke is at. I didn't tell him nothing about the ceiling
Okay
I didn't say nothing about the ceiling for a reason
We take Val into the room. We tie him up. We gag him and we put the pitball in the room with him
We tell him not to fucking move
And the whole time he's like joey. Why are you doing this to me? I feel terrible till this day
This is why I did what I did for that kid
So
This fucking jerk off comes back and he goes man, I didn't find anything in that drawer. I just found 300 hours in an eight ball
You're lying to me
There was an ounce of coke and two thousand eighteen on lala something like that something, you know, 30 fucking years ago. What do I know?
So I go really
That's what you're trying to tell me
I go well, I saw a fucking ounce
And I saw two thousand dollars
He goes, let the took that that's not what was in the drawer. I'm telling you right now. I go really
Well, I'm gonna go over then take a look
And he goes, what am I gonna do with him? I go, I don't know you created this fucking problem
And as I walked to the door he like clicked the gun
He's like if you leave i'm gonna be i'm gonna have to shoot him and shoot you
I knew this guy couldn't hurt himself. This guy was trying to be a man
worse than anything else in his life
And I remember looking at him going you're not gonna shoot nobody dog and I went out of that fucking car
And I had a gun in the trunk
And I go, you know what I should do because this is not gonna end good
But I look at the situation
Look at what the fuck situation i'm in. This is not gonna end good
The only way this ends is by me shooting both these motherfuckers
In a residential area at one o'clock in the afternoon of boulder colorado
Ah, yeah, I'm like this
This is and i'm sitting out there. I popped the trunk
I fucking pick up the carpeting. I actually took the gun. I looked at it for a minute
And and something made me think of my mother
Something like this is not
I go, let me go south. It's just fucking dead
And I got in that fucking car made a u-turn I shot over there like a bat out of hell
And they had like a kind of half a fag door man like hi welcome to the hotel
The Regency house. Who are you going to see?
And then he would buzz him
When I got out of the car, you could tell my body language
He didn't even ask like he just opened the fucking door
And I went in I got on the elevator. I went to the door
I didn't even use the key. I just kicked the fucking door down. I was so fucking furious
That I had let myself be taken now
I got to get whatever pieces I can and get the fuck out of dodge
I kicked the fucking door down
I went in the draw. There was nothing there
And I'll never forget they had like a coffee thing in the living room
I moved the fucking table out of the way and I jumped up like a gorilla that I am
I was about 220 at the time and I grabbed on to the whole ceiling
And I just pulled it the fuck all down
Half of it came down. There was dust and all of a sudden you just heard poof
And it was two fucking rocks of coke
One had been broken into already with a little bit of a seal was taped back on
I grabbed those motherfuckers. I looked around I put them in a bag
I ran downstairs when I walked out in the hallway. There was three people on the hallway
Like what happened? I'm like, I don't know
I just walked past them. I don't know his point
I fucking went downstairs
And I'll never forget just walking out in the door man seeing me
And me just I remember I parked my car away
I had to walk a little bit, but I walked past the halfway house
And I'm like fuck
And there's a newspaper stand on the other edge of the halfway house
I put the cocaine on the bottom ledge
Whenever you got buying newspapers now and then you open it up. Look at the bottom ledge
That's what old school drug dealers used to do drugs
No, shit. So the old school where you could put a quarter in and open the door you could take all the papers
That's the way I hit the bottom ledge
All right, I'm just gonna go pay to see one now
So I hit the coke in the bottom ledge
I ran home
I called the buddy of mine and I told him
warm up a car
Get a car. You gotta go to Aspen. I called a friend of mine and asked me
And I said can you still move coke tonight? He goes I can move whatever you bring me
I go you got two kilos on the way or one and a half
Send me this number whatever number you could send me. I knew when we was a dear friend of mine
And within an hour they could edit the coke on the way to Aspen. I had gone back
and taken like
17 grams out of the bag
And then I went home
And I was like, what the fuck do I do now?
I have to wait for this guy to go to Aspen
And I don't know what's gonna happen with these two fucking idiots probably sickly. You can't write this shit. You can't
You cannot write that's why I'm sitting here listening on the edge of my seat every episode my buddy goes to fucking comes back from uh
Whatever work and he goes how to go
Because he knew it was gonna happen. I just didn't want him involved
How was your day?
And I said it wasn't it didn't go too good. This is what happened
I go you want a line of coke? He's like, sure. So we started doing a couple lines
and also near
On the door and I looked the window it's it's fucking to do with the pit bull
And I go, what do you want? He's out now
Yeah, he you know, he I left him at his house. Yeah with the fella in the room with the dog. I don't know what happened
This is four hours later
He knocks on my door. He's like, I need to talk to you
I go, what do I do? He goes, what do I do with him? I go, I don't know
It's your fucking problem
He goes, that's my fucking mother's house. You know what happens if I got arrested my mother says I don't know
You should have thought of that before you tried to rob me. He goes, I didn't rob me. That's all that was there was 200
I'm telling you right now. That's all that was there
He goes, you don't understand I need 10 000 to get fucking married
If I get that money, she'll divorce the guy and I get mad. I'll never forget looking at him going
This poor fucking bastard. This is all over some pussy. This is all over for pussy
He's like, I need this fucking money. I told I'd have the money tonight
She's going to the attorney tomorrow. She could file for divorce tomorrow afternoon
And I could be fucking her in three months
Once the divorce is over, I need this fucking money
And then he goes, well, you you got to do me a fucking favor
I know these guys. I got two blocks of hash to stand out of hotel
Get your gun. Let's go over and I go. Do you not understand it's over?
I go, where's kent? He goes, he's in the trunk of a car
He goes, I'm gonna take him down the fucking the bus station and put him on the bus
I go, I suggest you get going. He goes, you're coming with me. I ain't gonna know where
I ain't gonna fucking know where and I think if the truth was I pulled my piece on him
I think that I finally go dog. Get the fuck off my thing
Don't ever fucking come on this lot again
Make believe you never fucking know me
I went back inside and my girlfriend went home. She knew something was going on
Fucking that night I went across the street for dinner. I got the trout almond dean
It was the special
Like 695 a big potato
I got the trout almond dean and kent's in the trunk right now
The guy's in the truck and I'm like, I'm gonna go hungry
Hold on, look up trout almond dean. I have never even heard of that shit. I want to know what's in it
That's colorado shit
I want to know what's in it
I just love to hear the same level of excitement from those
There's tons of trout in colorado so you got to make it all different
What's the sauce? What's all of it? What is that?
Trout almonds. It's like an almond dean
Yeah, man
What the fuck do you think you're dealing with?
God, that sounds good, man
I'm international
We got lake trout in Baltimore. We don't have no trout almonds
Speaking of Baltimore, Jimmy Seafood
Yeah
The best, the goods
The best seafood out there, no doubt
See, it's mainly almonds
Yeah
Let's see if I can find the recipe here
That does sound good, man. I've never had that. Trout with almonds, huh?
There was a bar across the street
And that was the special night. It was like trout almond dean
Or a fucking skinny steak with AIDS
It says it's butter, shallots, lemons, and almonds
That sounds delicious
And they give it to you without the head
Just the skin. You just eat the skin
Fucking delicious
You understand me?
Spray that up
Spray it up
Do most criminals have trout almond dean for the night?
No, I just decided I had trout almond dean
There's a guy in a truck right now, he's having trout almond dean
I went back to the house
I stopped at the lake of straw and went back to the house
I knew I had a dilemma
I knew I had, I knew that something was not going to go right
And I went home and I proceeded to snort that coke line by line
And drink
And at some point I just passed out from mental exhaustion and worrying myself to death
Even after that coke and everything, you must have been wiped out
I was wiped out
I knew that this was not going to be good
Somewhere along the line is going to bite me in the ass
And sure enough, the next thing I wake up to
And I look out the window like that
You know, I could look out the window without them knowing
And it was the kid who detailed cars now at Subaru
And he had a name, I forget what his name was
Which one, the lead guy?
Not Lester the molester
He had like a different name, like fucking
Blazin' Brett Hazen
Nah, that was his sales name
That was his name
He was a detailer
But he was Blazin' because we used to give him coke
So he would wash like 18 cars in 10 minutes
Blazin' Brett Hazen
I love Blazin' Brett Hazen
Good white dude, solid, solid family
He just snored a coke from Ding to Dong
At 9 o'clock, he'd be out there and be 30 degrees
He'd be washing cars with no shirt on
30 degrees
I told him, but he's out there no shirt on
That's how coked up he is
He don't even feel the weather
He's out there sprinkling water and shit
Blazin' Brett Hazen knocks on my door
I go, Brett, what's going on?
He goes, open the door
He goes, man, I hate to be the Brad Bad News
But at work right now, they've got to place around
There were cops
They're looking for you, they've got something happened
And I call you serious
He goes, yeah, they're trying to get your address right now
And Wayne means to stall them
They're all fucking stalling them right now
But here's the weird thing
That the night before the day I went to the dentist
You know that dude that gave me the 500 bucks
And we never talked
I was standing outside
It had to be about 715
And the sun was setting
Same guy you said you're a nosy motherfucker on that one
I just didn't like him
He was older
But I knew he deserved respect
I just, at that age, I wasn't going to give it to him
I thought he was a shithead for what he did
Trying to cut it on my deal
And at that, in those days, I used to take that type of shit personally
Don't hit me with that
If it's your deal for real
Then the guy would ask for fucking Ryan
Okay, you're not going to show up at the end
That was his kind of shit
It was like joke stealing, you know
It was one of the taboos of the business
And he was going to pull it on me
So I felt I didn't have to talk to him
But maybe a night or two before I did that
Kiddi is crying
I was standing outside by myself
And he came up to me
And he goes, hey, do you have a minute?
And I remember, you know, like somebody asking if you have a minute when you hate them
I go, yeah, what's up?
And he goes, I don't know if you know this
But before I came to work here
I was the entertainment director at a casino in Las Vegas
I booked everybody
Have you ever considered doing stand-up comedy?
This is the guy
And I'm like, are you fucking serious?
That's the advice you have for me
So I should become a stand-up comic
He's like, you're a stand-up comic
And I was like, thank you for that
And I didn't take it with a grain of fucking salt
And now I've been looking up my fat
You know, his name comes in and out
Like I should have wrote it down, but I didn't
That was the first time somebody was like
So here's this guy that does not like me
And I'm not crazy about him
Comes up to me one night and tells me
That I should be doing stand-up comic
That he knows for sure
Dude, you don't even, same
And he pushes you on the path
He pushes me out
How about that, man?
That's crazy
Isn't that crazy?
So Blaise and Brett Hazen on my doorstep
And he goes, the cop's gonna be in about eight minutes
Get everything you need
So that night I had finished a coke
I took the fucking scale I had
I already knew
Anything coke related
I put in two bags and I walked in one direction
I walked the dog and I dumped it behind the supermarket
And then I walked an extra half mile
Coked up and walked up behind another guy's personal garbage
I went home, the house was clean
Wiped down the table, vacuumed
Sprayed Lysol
There was no residue or cocaine, nothing
I knew the cops were gonna come
It was just a matter of when
Sure enough, he goes, you gotta go
Thank God I fucking showered
Like I fucking showered, got dressed
And as I was walking up the corner
The cops are coming down my block with their lights on
How many of them?
Two cop cars and one detective car
They pulled up in my house, they approached slowly
You know, they knocked on the door
You're watching this
I'm watching this
They knocked on the door
Where are you, are you hiding or are you just
I'm across the street at the supermarket behind a beam
And they can't see me
I'm watching them behind the beam
They're peeking out from behind a beam at the supermarket
They didn't kick my door open or anything
They just walked around the premises
They couldn't walk on the one side
Cause the dog was back there
So I didn't want them to shoot my dog or nothing like that
So I watched them all go to the front, talk
And then two cop cars left
And they left a cop car outside
To see if I would come home
So I called the girl
Me and her on the outside, you're not going to believe this
The cops are looking for me, you've got to help me
And she's like, Jesus, fucking Christ
Where are you, I go, I'm at Rouse on
Not Rouse
King's Supers
That's the supermarket chain
I go, King's Supers on blah, blah, blah
And she goes, okay, give me about 25 minutes
I'll meet you in the front, lay low
So I'm watching these fucking cops and I reach
And I'm like, where's my weed?
And in those days I was getting weed sent out
Bullet-tie weed, chocolate-tie weed
God, I'm mad, yeah
And I've had it out in New York
I was like, fuck this, I walked all the way around
I jumped the fence behind my house
And I went in my back door, the cops never even knew it
Come on
I went in, I got my weed, my pipe on my back
And the guys still sitting out there
They're out there drinking, talking about fucking
How they arrested Jesse James and all this shit
And here's a fucking 25-year-old
I was 24
Sneaking behind the house, boom
My girlfriend picked me up and she goes, we're lucky
Because my parents went away for the week
So we could just go up there, you have no excuses
Like it all worked out
So I went up there on a Wednesday
And then
Thursday I was kind of bored
And I would go down there, I don't call my buddy
I had his job
And ask him what's going on
And he would tell me the cops were snooping around
They're looking for you
There's an article on the paper about it
That there's one guy they're looking for still
So I was like, fuck
So he did pinch the other dude, they got him?
Yeah, how they arrested him was
He was driving without his headlights on
That's always something stupid
They got pulled over and they heard the guy in the trunk
Kicking and fucking moaning
Wait, he didn't get pulled over
He got pulled over with the dude in the trunk
Not just some shit like
Nah, come on
My story is God written
He forgot to put that
Only Steve fucking Martin could write the story
I was involved with a complete ninkampoo
He was an idiot, this guy
He was driving with his headlights off with a guy in the trunk
When the cop asked him for license of registration
All you heard was
It was like good fellas, let me out
Tommy, I know you
Tommy, I know you, I know you all my life
So here's the funny story
The victim never mentioned my name
The victim said, ratted Tidwell out
Tidwell ratted me out
So it's Thursday night
I'm bored to pieces
Jim Wheeler kept telling me to watch Above the Law
With Steve Seagal
I had just come out
Tremendous Stephen Seagal movie
You've never seen Stephen Seagal
That is a good scene
Yeah, he's a joke today
But his first three movies were tremendous
That one being tremendous
I rented that another movie that was hot at the time
That I had never watched before
Called Lethal Weapon
Lethal Weapon was hot off the presses
So I went to get weed
And I went to the video store
And it was across the street from the Kmart
Where I used to rob
Years later, I used to rob the seats
There were three phone boots
I went to the phone booth
And I, because my friend said, the detective left his car
Do you want his number?
And I go, yeah, I'll write it
So I called the detective up
And they said, who is this Joey Diaz?
Hold on
They would put me on hold to trace the call
And I would hang up
And I'd call back and then hang up
And I'd call back and then hang up
I'd call back and then hang up
And finally, they're like, I'm detective, whatever
And I'm like, what's going on?
He goes, listen, I need to talk to you
It's not important
It's just a few questions
And let's just get this figured out
And I go, all right
And he goes, where are you?
And I look up
And I'm about to say, Kmart
But this is in Albertsons
About 400 yards from me
I go, I'm at Albertsons
And he goes, wait for us, we'll be right there
And I hang up the phone
And not three minutes later
I see a cop car dashing into Albertsons
With his lights on
I'm seeing all these cops come in there
And I'm seeing them get out of their cars
And run into Albertsons with that gun
I'm in my car rowing the joint
Watch them
It's not an option thing
You're not nervous at all?
I'm like, I'm dead
What are you gonna do, cross the street?
They didn't trace the call
I didn't give them enough time
I was on the clock, Jack
I know exactly when that phone clicks
And you're using all three of them?
Yeah, I'm using all three of them
I was a bad motherfucker
Oh, yeah
So when I saw all those cops
I was like, this ain't a game
They're gonna fucking get me
So I went home to my girlfriend
I told her what I had seen
And we agreed on turning myself in
There was only a problem
I had a big fucking problem
On that night, Miami Vice, Don Johnson was marrying Sheena Easton
You were a huge man
It was the wedding
I'm a huge Miami Vice fan
I'm waiting for this fucking wedding
I'm getting a grandma blow
I'm getting Chinese food
I'm fucking my girlfriend
And I'm gonna celebrate the wedding
My man Crockett is gonna marry
Sheena fucking Easton on national TV
I got a fucking dilemma here
Lee, you think you're retarded?
This is real retardation
I was like, I got the cops looking for me
And I'm worried about a wedding
Not even a real wedding
Not even a real wedding
I mean, Miami Vice wedding
A imaginary wedding
That's to let people know
You know, like when you guys on Patreon
I'm 24, I don't know what to do
Let me tell you what, I was going to 24
I was going to imaginary cocaine weddings
I'm the guy you want to listen to
I've done everything stupid in the world
I didn't even tell you what happened here
And after I ate that pill
I found the pill on the floor
Yeah, no, it wasn't a joke cap
This was a fucking boogaloo pill and I ate it
Had a rough night that night
I fell asleep on my wife twice
Like talking to her
She's like, where are you going?
I got it
She goes, you fell asleep talking to me
Anyway, I know I'm in trouble
But I got this wedding
I'm going to say it like he's really going
I don't know if I'm going to be like the best man
In your head or something
I got this wedding together
You're going to watch Elvis's Alligators
Is he there?
So I said, fuck this
I'll turn myself in by nine
I'll talk to him
I'll talk about this
You mean nine a.m. on Saturday morning
So you can watch Friday night
Because if I remember correctly
Wasn't my everybody's Friday night at 10 p.m.
Was it nine?
Nine at ten
Yeah, yeah
I go, if I go in at nine and talk to him
I'll be home by eight
So I go down there
I give my wife, my ex-wife, my girlfriend at the time
I give her like 40 bucks
So I go, remember, pick up my food young
Walk fried rice
I should be up there by eight
I'll call you, you can pick me up
I'll take the bus up or whatever
You know, and I remember going up to police station
Going to the white detective coal eyes office
You know, like it's up there
And I remember going up there
And there was nobody standing outside
There was a buzzer
I'm like
And they're like, who is it?
And I'm like, Joey Diaz, they're like, hold on
Okay, come in
And when I open the door
Every cop in that office
Is holding a gun
Really?
Get on your knees, get on your knees
And also they come out
Mr. Diaz, you're arresting for kidnapping one
Kidnapping two, aggravated robbery
Put your hands behind your neck
But is there somebody you want to talk to?
You know, they read me the right way
Are you freaking out at that point?
No, I'm like
What are you arresting me for?
I didn't do nothing
I fucking helped you guys
I took a fucking drug deal off the streets
I'm a superhero
Why are you treating a superhero like this?
Superheroes lives matter
I'm a feminist
How quickly did you think about the wedding though?
Are you, do you realize like, oh shit
I ain't gonna see this wedding
There's no DVR back then
I'm not the fucking dropping on these
But you still have the VCR
You have the VCR, you have the set-up
Yeah, you have the set-up
Yeah, you have the set-up
So, I turned myself in at 9.15
And they're like, do you want to talk to us?
Absolutely, I'll tell you whatever you want to hear
And they asked me what I knew
When I gave them like a half-ass version
And then I would just tell them stories
They would tell you, I got my driver's license
Test in Colorado
And they're like, what?
And they're like, what does this have to do with that?
I'll never forget telling them that story
And they're like, that's great
Okay, can we get back to this?
So when did you last see Kent Vella?
And I go, I didn't see Kent Vella
Were you didn't see him at the house?
No, I saw him before
He said he was going to Arizona on a trip
I was just...
And after a while, they were like, let's see
We didn't even want to talk to you, you know
If you got bail, that's it
And they put me in Boulder County jail
They gave me a pack of cigarettes
In those days, they'd give you cigarettes
And they put me like in this fucking thing that was paradise
I keep my own clothes
My girlfriend brought me clothes the next day
So you missed the wedding?
I missed the wedding?
No!
By the time I got to my room, everybody was catching the wedding
It was on in jail?
No, you saw it in jail
The last half hour, I was happy as fuck
But no Chinese food
But no Chinese food
You can't always get everything
And then they made a big deal of it
By the time I got sentenced, by the time I got charged
They had accused me of kidnapping the Cuban kid
They had tied me into that
Oh, okay
So they tied every drug rip to me now
They were like, we're looking at them for other possible situations
The murder of Alberto or something
I'm like, what?
And they're like, disappearance of this
And I'm like, nah, nah, nah, whoa, Nelly
Whoa, Nelly
I tried to take drugs off the street
That was my only crime here
But they wouldn't go for it
So I think I spent Thanksgiving in jail
Damn
I went from November 9th, November 20th
I spent Thanksgiving in jail
And then my ex-wife, girlfriend at the time, went to her father
And told him the truth
Told him I made a mistake
You know, the guy always knew I worked
I hustled
I used to go up there on satellites and help him cut trees and shit
So she goes, make an appointment for him to come see me
And he came to see me
And he asked me what happened
And they told me not to leave out of detail
And I told him the truth and he said he bailed me out
And three days later, I was bailed out to his supervision
Do you remember what bail was?
That's right
Bail was originally 50 Gs
Once he got involved, they loaded the 3 Gs cash
It's only 10% anyway, right?
So they dropped it from 5 to 3
Just straight up
So they dropped it to 2000
Yeah, that's wrong
They dropped it to 2000
And I'd be signed out to his custody
To stay with him
So I pretty much lived
With my girlfriend's family for like the first month
Like that whole month of December
They were like, it's best that you stay here with us for the holidays
And I was a fucking mess
Like I was a mess
I was trying to get attorneys from all over the country
And like I was thinking like I was like a mobster and shit like that
And they're like, we want 30,000 just to get on the plane
I'm like, what?
So that's a different story in itself
Like that's me getting out of that
I think I stayed in there for 16 or 17 days
It was something weird
Because it fucked with me
I came out and Jim Wheeler was a manager at a Subaru store
He gave me a job for about a month and a half
I only sold one car
Damn
I couldn't even sell cars
I was so unfocused
Was that 16 or 17 days as long as you'd been in jail to that point?
Yeah
The whole situation that messed with me
Because then it got cleared up to me that
Bella never ran it
It was Tidwell
But let me tell you what happened
Tidwell got arrested in Jefferson County
So when they brought Tidwell in
A clerk did a background check on him
And realized he had a warrant for $19
He paid the $19 and they let him out by mistake
So Tidwell was wanted before
So he made himself look worse
Then he eventually turned himself in
I got out of jail
I fucked up the job with the thing
It was a funny story because
It's gonna sound bad
But let's say in any way
It doesn't sound great so far
At first I had to get an attorney
But since he got arrested the night before
He got a public attorney
Okay
When you got represented by a public attorney
That means I can't get represented by a public attorney
Because it's conflict of interest
So they have to get me a court appointed attorney
Well the court appointed attorney
They got me his name was Sonny Flowers
And what his claim was
Sonny Flowers
Another big black dude
Six foot six
What do you want to do?
Sonny Flowers
The only problem was he was scared of black people
What?
He was black but he was scared of black people
Six six he's scared
He was raised like very high
My name is Sonny Flowers
But his claim to fame was his grandmother
Was the first African-American woman
To get a law degree from the University of Colorado
Man that's huge
So they
All right son
Yeah but he wasn't doing nothing to me
So what good was it?
He was selling me out
You know what I'm saying?
I thought Cuban lives mattered
What happened?
Now Cuban
What the fuck?
What happened?
So I played him like a fiddle
Throughout January and February
Because I knew
I couldn't go into the courtroom with him
I knew he was incompetent
I had been around courts enough
To know he was incompetent
So I played him
I played him until he brought me the first offer
The first offer was nine years
And I got a plea to kidnapping too
Fuck you that's it
Hold on
You're you're off Mike I can't I really can you hear him all right?
I think we should be able to do that
Yeah
There you go
So wait say some sorry I'm my first
I wanted there to see something one day
And he goes oh by the way I got an offer for you
They made you a great deal
This is Sonny's telling you what they already came back with
They're not gonna do none better
He goes it's nine years and kidnapping too
Oh yeah
I'm like what
Press prison
I go you sell me a dog
You gotta fight to me
There's no fingerprints on the machine gun
There's none of this
There's none of that
What puts me there
What the fuck is going on here
So I had to kind of argue with him
And he's like well if you feel that way
But this is what I wanted
Because I wanted to kill time
The more time I killed
The more chance I had the victim would disappear
Without me killing him
He's a loose cannon
Without me killing
He got a rat
I mean listen
He couldn't testify against me because
And today with dear friends
Like we just spoke about 11 days ago
But at that time
He couldn't testify
Because they were gonna bring up the story
About him robbing the pharmacy
He had no credibility
You know what I'm saying
They took you to the hospital
They went to stitch you up
And what do you do
You break into the fucking pharmacy
And steal coke and run out of there
And he had done a couple of other things
So they didn't really have
That strong of a fucking case
But I couldn't take the chance
So I had a set of dates
To fire my attorney
In front of the judge
So I knew that would kill three more months
You see what I'm saying
To get me a qualified attorney
To attack this a different way
I knew how this was gonna be attacked
I had to come up with the attack myself
I was gonna be attacked
But I needed somebody to hatch the plan with me
And he was way better than me
Until today I love him
His name is Phil Dubois
He's the one
He's out of Colorado Springs
He was a genius
He took me on as a client
When I fired sunny flowers
And I went to court that day
The judge said to me
Mr. Diaz
Before you leave
Go to my court clerk
And ask her
What?
To give you a list of attorneys
I had already picked my attorney
But I went back there
Whether anywhere to play the game
When I went back there
There were three cops back there
There was Jimmy Cola
And there was two D.A. agents
And they were like
Hey, how you doing?
You remember us?
And they threw an envelope down
And they're like
What happened?
You don't go back to Aspen no more?
Aspen's no good
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
And they're like
You were living up in Aspen
You were having a great time selling blow
Flying it back
Selling guns
We just miss you by getting you this much
But we could still bring those charges back
We have proof
I don't know what you're talking about
And they started putting pictures out
Of me at the airport
They've been following it that long
Oh yeah
How many years?
They had been following me
I got hot to them like
September of 1986
To November of 1986
And they were just watching
Because a girl in Aspen an accountant
Was a city accountant
She got caught robbing
So when they pressed charges
She said
What if I give you drug dealers?
They asked what were you spending the money on drugs
So they made her and her husband
Go out and buy drugs
And different drug dealers
And then they caught on to me with the guns
And then like there was other drug people
That ratted me out
That they had, you know, they bought the cops off
I mean, there was some big time fucking hitters
Up there at the time
So they came to me
They showed me all those pictures
And they said we could cut your deal
We know you're involved
We could press charges
Listen, if you could have pressed charges
You would have pressed charges already
We wouldn't be having this fucking conversation
So I go let me think about it
And get back to you
And it was so funny because Kola gave me his number
And I would call Kola up and give him Lee's plate
I go follow this guy
He'd deliver his coke
They'd be watching Lee for like a month
And then they'd really be baffled
Because they're like, how's he doing it?
Lee's not a coke dealer
He doesn't go out at night
How does he sell it? Does he email it?
You know, I was just giving him random people
I was just playing with them
I would see a licensed plate
And an old guy in it
And I just write it down
And go you see this guy right there in that license
And I saw him selling drugs
I saw him selling drugs
Little girls the other day
And I'm saying watch him
He's got lollipops
I would just give him fake information
But it was so weird how I had to flip my life
In those couple of months
Like I really
I joined the master swimming program
I tried to get into the university of Colorado
I got my GED
I did so well
And is this all part of building a case for yourself
So that when you finally get the court for this
You can say
Right
This is part of me trying to be Joey Diaz
Trying to play a routine
I never forget I signed up for voluntary drug test
Why?
Right
My attorney goes, I think it's a good idea
That you signed up for voluntary drug test
I don't mean to be rude to the past one
I remember the third time
They were like why do you come here
They're like the last dose you gave us
That's the highest AC level we ever saw in our lives
Never
What did you fucking bathe in it?
So that became my attorney got that ripped up
Let's rip that piece of paper
Because it helps you
If you go to court and say you've been clean
But if they don't know and they're gonna hurt you either
So just don't bring it up
You know what I'm saying
So I did everything I had to do
I went to counseling
I went to the AA meetings
I did everything I had to do except stay clean
I ended up moving in with a guy that's so cold
Like it didn't end
And he would hide it in his jacket pocket and leave
And it was like do what you need
And it was crazy
It was every fucking night
But I'd be up at six to swim
I had to be at the pool at ten to six
Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays
Because a part of me thought I would get away with the court date
Like I would go to court and get community corrections
But the other part of me was like who the fuck am I kidding
I'm going to jail
I'm accepting this because this is I'm not going to jail for this
I'm going to jail for everything else I did
Yeah
Once I get this out of the way I could move forward
It finally caught up to you
But this is I'm going to jail for everything else
So not here
Let's stop being a fucking jerk off
You know
How much anxiety did you have in that period when you were waiting?
Between you and I guys
I wasn't scared at all
Because even doing all that coke you weren't getting paranoid about
Because we're not talking about jail now we're talking about prison
Right
Prison are we not
We're talking about prison
That's a big difference
Number one I had spoken to my my father-in-law future
Hooked me up with one of his clients
God rest his soul his name was Ed Crashkabash
He should not have been a car salesman
Ed Crashkabash became a car salesman lately
He did
Ed Crashkabash
Ed Crashkabash was a fucking computer wizard
That devised some program on the computer
In 1985 and somebody gave him a huge jack
He's one of those dudes, huh?
So he was married and with a kid and he discovered a drug called cocaine
And he lost his mind
Okay, and my father-in-law ensured him
And my father-in-law would come to dinner every week and every week he'd tell us about a story about a client he has
That keeps crashing cars
And
It was hysterical. It was in the paper
Ed Crashkabash owned the liquor store. He was selling coke out of there
Million-dollar-year operation. My father-in-law was embarrassed. He knew him from the church
So when Ed came out of jail
My father-in-law made me go talk to Ed Crashkabash
And Ed Crashkabash goes get 500 together
I'll send it to one of the guards so when you get to where you're going
The toughest place it'll be easy for you
At least they'll take care
So I knew that if when I was in county jails, I wouldn't have problem
It's once I went to diagnostic is where your problems start
But he goes I'll make it that it's easiest shit for you
Ed Crashkabash is very interesting
Because the story goes
He crashed 16 cars
And then his record was two the same week
Two testaroses
I mean the dog he was making a Miami vice. Listen to me. He was making so much money
He got sick and tired of
Going to a liquor store. So he bought his own liquor store
And he was selling coke out of liquor store in kilos
And he was just sitting there all day mixing drinks
And getting flopped up
So I went to him. He prepped me. So one part of me
Saw it. Joey Diaz got this lick, but I'm not gonna lie to you
The other part of me was preparing to go and I did everything I went I signed the precursors
I got accepted into the ceo p work study program at the university of colorado
We presented our fucking
Uh presentation to the fucking people so may I ask you a question? How long from the time you're
bailed out
Till the time you finally go back to court like what free time do you have?
How many is it months? Is it a few weeks? Like how much time do you have before I get bailed out?
Let's say december 8th
Now this creeps into 88. I'm hoping
Me and my cocaine mind
I'm hoping to keep this
On the books till 89
Oh, okay, so you'd be out and about
No, that's just so stressful. Let's see. I was hoping
To stretch it out
So the victim could change the story
Right the victim could fuck it up
The victim was starting to renegar ready. He didn't want to come back to testify
But they still had the other guy that was going to testify against me
So I was gonna lose
So my attorney came up with a great idea
He goes, why don't we hire a private investigator to the court your next to three grand?
You're already fighting for your life
But this guy will dig into your life and whatever he finds we could present it to the judge
And what at least we know what they're gonna find
And he put together this presentation, man
And you cut them off at the chase you so you hit them first so they didn't have it. Yeah, fuck. Yeah
He calls me one day and he goes
What do you think of this deal if I could make it?
And I go hit me and he goes how about
90 days work release
And six years community corrections
Where is that? Yeah, what is community corrections? So work release means
You're sleeping there at night. I would go to a prison a county jail
Sleeping there at night be released till six
Get piss tested three times a week. Oh, yeah, I forgot about the piss test
And then after 90 days, I go to a
Six months treatment center
At bctc the halfway house
Which remember
I'm seen
Yes
This is why life is a mother for sure
So
That is insane. He's pushing for six
90 community corrections
We're looking at november december
By that time velo be too fucked up. He won't show up
Tidwell kill himself. I was trying to get to did well
You know, I was trying to do everything
My fucking lawyer called me in july and he goes listen
The fucking judge switched his dock and they moved your case to august 15th
He goes i'm going in front of community correction. See I was supposed to get
Sentence in december
And then with the result of community corrections
Community corrections meeting was august 12th
So they switched my so i'm like, what does that mean?
He goes he goes that means that afternoon. You'll know whether you're going to prison or not
Damn, okay, so I kept living my life. I was living it
Mike tyson knocked out the brother without the tooth
In atlantic city in 60 16 seconds
I'm snorting coke. I got my girlfriend
And also and i'm doing something. I had forgotten all about it on a friday the phone ring
It's my turn. He goes. You're still sitting up standing down. I go
Standing up because you better sit down for this one
He goes community corrections turns you down
I go what does that mean? He goes well that means that fucking
I could probably get you into work release
But it ain't gonna be for no fucking
Three months. It's gonna be for like a year
But still just work release for a year, but what I did was
I paid the best attorney
And I took a session with him for like an hour
I went I paid him his fee
And I had him break it down. He was a spanish dude. He was in charge of the law school. He was the dean of the law school
That's why I was getting to a law school because if you said you were spanish, they'd beg you could have lefts
You could have bought yourself
They just needed a latino on the roster to get there funding latino
They needed a latino to get to get that to get that government grant money and shit
You got to show up before retarded spanish people
They don't care if they're bouncing a ball or not. You know what I'm saying?
They come in with one of those paddles with a ball
Sit down. We're gonna give you 8 000 a semester. We'll give you a car a car. Yeah, we'll give you a car too. Don't worry about nothing
So I got involved with that. So I I met with him
And he told me to my face. He's like you're a nice guy
I'm looking at your police record. I'm looking at your probation report
He you never got to get in trouble again, but there was a machine gun involved
And he goes that means there's a potential for violence, which means that somebody could have been shot
With the cuban kid
And the kid jumping off the balcony and breaking his fucking legs
They're gonna fucking come after you. So just be prepared to do time
So I knew it. I really knew it. So
That I got up to phone with the attorney. I started snorting my brains out Friday
I took my girl for the hate her ass off the fucking. I think I tasted the heart
I licked the heart. My tongue was like a lizard
My tongue was like a lizard
Oh, I must have fucked 18 times that poor girl
And that that sunday that monday morning I walked into court with this attitude that
You know what the judge's gonna give me a chance to talk
I'ma tell him about what I've done the last six months. I got into college. I got my gd
Just give me a breathe. Let me do work release
Bro when that judge called and I had my friends flying from jersey. They're flying in. That's nice
I had good friends, man. They flew in from jersey
george flew in from jersey
And they called my name and I thought it was gonna be like this beautiful thing
And he goes hose ad as do you have any words?
And I went to talk
And I just froze out
I'm like
And he goes, uh, everybody stand
So you never got you never said anything goes your sentences
four to six years
department of corrections
with a 90 day
Appeals whatever. Thank you for coming
And I looked at the judge because my buddy's an ounce and a half of coke
I look at the attorney and I go talk to him see if we could stay out till wednesday. You know what I'm saying?
My buddy brought a rock direct from fucking bolivia
And my attorney goes, excuse me. It's just joey signed up into college
And he had two days to turn himself in the guy goes no
He's a surrender right now
My fucking girlfriend was heartbroken. Her parents were there her family was there
You know my friends were there to hug them all. Yeah, because you're walking your walk. You're not leaving
No, I walked to the back
I fucking
Can I let me ask you this kidnapping one and two what are the what is that what it was a one and what it makes it a
One and a two is what I'm trying to get and and kidnapping is such a
I know it's because you physically moved a person against their will but why do they still use kid
I don't know. It just sounds terrible. It sounds terrible. Uh
The first degree is
If they're harmed or a threat of physical harm and second degree is no none of that threat of physical harm and that was the machine gun
That's it. That's makes it the one
So you right there you they let you hug everybody goodbye and you go right into custody
What what day is this? It's a monday morning august 15th
1988 88 I sit in the cell
It's getting hot in there
Are you by yourself? I'm by myself
It's a nice cell. It's got a little
It's clean, you know and as you know right now you have 90 days to appeal but you're doing four to six
No, I'm not it's called consideration motion. Oh, okay because the uh
The reason why I went to prison was because I wasn't claiming responsibility
The judge said if you would have came in here claiming responsibility
I would have gave me a speck on the rest
But the whole law the whole fucking year or you keep talking about
Because you didn't know nothing. You don't know nothing. You didn't know nothing. You knew
All you got to do is say it when you're ready to say it come back in front of my court
So I had to think a lot about a lot of things and that stayed with me forever
That's why when I bomb it's not the audience fault
It's your fault
Why are you blaming the fucking audience for that's what a dummy does? It's always your fault
It's always your fault. So I really
Taught me that so I go in this little cell the size of this office
I take my eight hundred dollar jacket suit off. It did me no good
I just spit on the fucking thing you piece of shit. I'm lucky suit
I thought I was gonna impress the judge with an Armani did nothing for me
But when I hit the suit
Ryan I can't write this I hit the suit. I'm like, what's in the pocket
It's just a handkerchief and I go to take the handkerchief out
And there's a fucking coke bed the wall and I'm in this cell going
Jesus lives
I crushed the fucking coke
I turn around and I know they got a camera in there
I roll up like a dollar and I make believe I'm pissing and I snort the whole fucking package
All the way flush the fucking package and I sit down now. I'm in that cell fucked up. I'm like, I got some water
I then came back with a big glass of water and I just sat there and then I passed out
After that. Yeah, because it had been that's it. That's gotta be so because I had
Finally got it. Yeah, the coke took me higher
And I just went down
Not just six months your whole life up to this point has been
Has been skirting around it voiding it every way possible and finally
That got you so this cop comes over he gets me because I'm gonna bring it to yourself. Give me some clothes change
We've got a surgeon
He searches me
It's about
8 30 at night
They bring me into the cell
And who's sitting there
Playing cards
A guy with two broken legs the guy jumped out. No, I can't look at the broken legs
I go, is that you that jumped out the window? Yeah, I don't know
We'll end it right there
in county jail
Boulder, Colorado
December no, uh, I turned myself in
Yes, august 15th. So we're 88
And then we're gonna pick up on the honeydew
September 1988 in jail sitting next to the dude with two broken legs
I love you. Yeah
That was the most interesting
two weeks of my life because
I got to hear everything that I confirmed
It was because remember at first
They put me in federal holding
Kidnapping as a federal offense
And then after 72 hours
They put me back into regular county jail
So in federal jail, I got to talk to these people and it was mind boggling
Those first 72 hours were mind boggling
Because it was stories about
These were high level characters
And how they got infiltrated
And it was one of the most brilliant three days
of my life
This one guy got busted
His wife went and got a maid the maid was at fed
No
The fucking fed bought two kilos of coke from uh now they were both in jail
Just tremendous stories
Tremendous stories about another guy that told me fucking uh
A guy that he would shoot coke with
Shoot coke with shoot coke with
Shot coke with him for six seven months
Then one night the guy goes I want to buy kilo the next day he gets arrested
He can't figure out there. They hid the witness
They hid the witness the day of
testifying
The cop was the guy that was shooting the coke
They put send him to a rehab
They do plastic surgery on their arm
And you can sit there all you want and say they entrapped at you
but
That was like the
The fuck those two weeks those three days in federal holding
Were brilliant. I still remember going downstairs
To get sent like to go to court
They made me go to court
Even though I didn't have to go to court and they handcuffed me like the crazy guy
Oh, I kept getting up and going. I didn't fucking do it. Fuck you's all
And they're all looking at me and they're throwing punches and I gotta duck up
And you have no idea my friend
Well, thank you. It has been an honor to guest host the church. Thank you for letting me do this for real
This has been fucking awesome. You know, I love you
Follow me on ryan sickler on social media ryan sickler.com. Make sure you're following along on is that am I looking at the right camera?
The honeydew we're doing joey's entire life story
We'll get one more in before you head back to jersey and then we're gonna zoom them
Whenever the fuck you want to do them from the luxury of your own home code for free and safe
I love you, brother. Thank you. I love you. I'm gonna miss you dearly. Yeah, I'm one of the guys that
Really came through in my life later on I was in a bad spot for a few years
But whenever I saw you you made me feel
Like we weren't in hollywood. We were in Baltimore. You gave me a piece of the east coast
That obviously is what I was needing. So same dude. Thank you for your friendship. Thank you for your loyalty. Thank you for your career
I'm so proud that you're doing so well. You got your thank you cast and uh
Anything I could do for you in jersey
I'll do I love you, dude. I and and look I want to say this
We know when I was going through splitting with my daughter's mom and everything and I know you like that
I say daughter's mother and not baby mama when I was splitting with her
You were checking in on me all the time. I tell everybody, you know, he called me. He didn't text me
He called and called and called. So I love you for it. Thank you, brother. I love it. Thank you very much
All right, I want to thank ryan sickler for coming on the show
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