Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - The Island of Insanity Party

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

Eating glass, throwing chairs, and having the time of their lives. Joey Diaz and Steve Avillo tell Lee Syatt how Steve taught Joey so much about music, they tell some stories about times they shouldn't have survived and much more!  Support the show and try your 1st month of BlueChew for free at https://www.bluechew.com ' New DraftKings customers get $200 in bonus bets when you bet just $5. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and press in code JOEY. Support the show and get 35% off your first 3 NYKD orders. Head to https://www.nykdpouches.com/CHURCH

What's happening you bad savages we're back happy new year the church new testament is here We missed you. We've been busy. You know what I'm saying? Things are busy things have been going on. I was sick last week My apologies about that lee couldn't handle it by himself, you know I was gonna do a zoom, but who wants a zoom the hell with zooms. anyway before we get this started today. I want to Me and Lee want to extend our hearts to the fire department the people California everybody who lost the house whether you didn't lose the house whatever I know it's tough But this too will pass trust me it always does we haven't donated yet because you know

Blue Cross takes like $22 and this and that. So I'm trying to find a pigeon that I could send a couple grant to and so it benefits the people, you know what I'm saying? If not, you're just sending an envelope out and everybody jumps up and down and the people who need it the most get like a chopstick. So that's not going to happen in my world. But anyway, we're back. Lee, what's the story, dog?

I'm good. Don't send it to Blue Cross. That's the health insurance company. Whatever. Blue anyway, we're back. Lee, what's the story, dog? I'm good, you don't send it to Blue Cross. That's the health insurance company. Whatever, Blue Cross, Red Cross, I don't know. They always show up with coffee and a dog, you know. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. But it was a good week, man, we're back. What's been going on in your world, Tarzan?

Oh, I'm finally like back, like in New York. I just haven't, I've been gone for so long that it just like, I'm, I'm, I'm finally like back in New York. I just haven't gone for so long that it just like I'm I I'm still waiting for it to wear off how much I love it here. I I'm I don't know. I've been loving it. Wait, do you get hit in the head with a stick? Why do you put in that out there people keep sending me messages people waiting till you get stabbed? Why wait someone's gonna do and then like Joey's gonna be so happy. I'm really I'm really I'm really liking New York I like you know, fuck it. Keep saying that, walking around with that hood on and shit.

What hood? They're gonna hit you in the fucking head. You look like a pigeon. They're gonna just hit you and take everything from you. You didn't see that. This is New York City. You can't be dicking around. Who's dicking around?

Looking like the fucking, you know, all bundled up like. It's fucking 8,000. First of all, it's been like 12 degrees there. It's not 12, it has not been 12 degrees here at all. Yes it has. The low has been 23. The faggy windshield, whatever. That's no, you know, come see me when it's real, cocksuckers.

This is not cold. Yes, firstly, and then there's 8,000, there's wind tunnels. So yeah, and I lost that thing, which is annoying, that neck thing, which really fucking did help, by the way. Thank God you lost it, because you look like a fucking geek with it. I look like a geek with everything. I told you, you're Jewish.

Only Jewish fucking gold chains, which is the fucking neck brace. That doesn't help with it. I'm gonna get robbed with a gold chain for sure. No, because you hide it under the fucking sweatshirt. So how's that gonna help with cold? Well, because you got the Jew in you, you know what I'm saying? It keeps you warm. you got the Jew necklace. It brings warmth to the neck. Oh my god. I

Dude, I Can't there's no way I can win at all with it. Like like I love it I get texts now someone texted me last night. They're like you and Joey broke up. I'm like I don't know you have like an army of people What would I say? Listen people get stupid when you don't put the podcast up. Mm-hmm. We didn't really say nothing I was like fuck it, you know, they'll figure it out I gotta write you a note to figure out there's no podcast if you look at three places, there's no podcast There's no podcast you move look at three places, there's no podcast. There's no podcast. You move the fuck on, right?

Trust me. I was getting tortured too, but I didn't answer one email. I didn't give a Frenchman's fuck Keep right keep go go find something to do go playing traffic Complaint knock it off with the phone George Knock it off, please for Christ fucking sake, but I'm I'm doing good. I I Don't fuck I saw her buddy doc. He came in this week, which has been great. Hopefully we'll see him tomorrow night. Yeah, we are going to see him tomorrow night. Doc Willis from the store.

It's been cool, dude. What else has been going on? I've just been doing... I've been trying to write. Trying to do... That's like the hardest part for me right now. There's a million things you can do. And I don't feel like I'm doing any of them right. I don't know what it is. We gotta get to a plan.

When you're in a position like you gotta make a plan what nights you're gonna go out, what nights you're gonna hang, it's a fucking struggle. It's not gonna happen because you write three fucking jokes and go to the stand and pop three jokes. I mean, it's just, it's an insane arsehole, man. And I tell you all the time, like, I don't have the effort right now to put into a good set anymore. Like, I just don't have it.

It requires six nights a week. Spitting, living, chewing, you know, that's it. That's what it requires. So, you know, it's tough. It's tough for a lot of people right now, stand up wise. I'm seeing a lot of people fucking stuck. Right.

And it is what it is. You just keep fucking throwing touchdown passes until you're not stuck. And I'm like, the biggest part I'm struggling with right now, and I talked to you a little bit about it, was like the hanging out part. Cause I've been doing it and it actually, it did work. I got up at a club and it's,

but I feel like such a fucking loser, just hanging out at a club, like buying, I buy a drink so I'm out of a cheapskate. But I know the managers don't want to talk to me. They have 8 million things going on. Listen, it's a process. If you told me at 8 o'clock that you get dressed and go to the Comedy Cell and hang out all night looking around, then I'm gonna be mad at you.

You go out, you do your sets, and then you hang for a little while and let them see you. Let them talk to people with you. You know, and in time, you'll figure out, it's just so weird how somebody will come to you and go, I can't get into this club. And you try, you try, you send tapes, you do a bunch of shit, and then you give up. And one day George calls you and goes,

hey, I'm headlining there, you wanna come feature? And you're like, yeah, but the guy hasn't booked me. Don't worry about it. And you're like, all that shit for fucking nothing. All that drama for fucking nothing. But it's better than not doing anything. Not doing the spots and not writing and not reaching out to your fucking friends

and to bookers every week, whatever the fuck it is. Little commitments become big commitments. And especially with comedy, especially with anything in life, little commitments become big fucking commitments. And it just keeps blowing up. But if you're going to get momentum and then leave for six weeks to go on the road, you defeated all that. So you really have to start looking at your time, what's going on, and that's a fucking

struggle. Nobody's going to give you dick in this life, guys. You're going to have to put the fucking work in. Even if it sticks to hanging out till two and they put you up at 10 to two, that's a fucking kick to the stomach. I've done that shit. That's a kick to your stomach, But at least you got the fuck up Yeah, oh I would love a 2 a.m. Spot right now in New York at a real show

I would and I'm actually really excited. I know and trust me. I'm sure in five or ten years of like fuck another midnight, whatever That like that's why I live here. Is it I would remember I went to 2 a.m. I went like there was one time those Jews who would jump up and down that I would go see all the time in college. I came to see them and I had like a 6 a.m. bus back and I just had nothing to do. I didn't get a hotel. I was saving some money. And one of the barkers got me into the, there was one in LA or there still is one in LA,

but it was called the Ha Ha or like the ha in Times Square. He said Dave Chappelle, he said everyone was going to be there. There was a comic who, God bless him, was like, didn't speak English, but it was one of the, it was one of the best nights I've had. It was, I can't wait to be there doing a 2 a.m. spot at a real club. All right. Well, we'll see. I'm fucking, how are you doing? You had a, you hadm. spot at a real club. All right, well, we'll see. How are you doing?

You had a, I know you were sick. I was fucking down for the count, man. I was fucking down. It was, it started like the third. First off, I'm really happy that I didn't get sick over the holidays. Because the last two years I had COVID on Christmas. Or the year before I had it twice or something like that.

So I fucking stuck, I hung low the week before Christmas because my nieces were coming. And then three days after New Year's, I just started feeling weird. And then Sunday really hit me. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, I finally went to the doctor. They thought I had a walk in pneumonia, the whole fucking deal, and here I am, slinging dick and giving out bubble gum. It's Monday, bitch.

You know what I'm saying? Whatever you felt last week, that was last week. This is a whole new set of fucking rules. And what a, I don't know if you want to talk about it now or not, but your daughter had a birthday this week, which is pretty Outstanding it was fucking insane. It's too much First of all that birthday started on Wednesday So her birthday was Wednesday, but the birthday started on Monday and I don't mind

I don't I don't give a fuck when it's your kid, you know, it starts whenever the fuck you wanted to I don't mind. I don't give a fuck. When it's your kid, it starts whenever the fuck you want it to. Wednesday she came downstairs and we were talking in the morning and I couldn't even look at her. Couldn't even fucking look at her because it was real. It was too real. She was turning fucking 12.

That's it. It was seven in the morning. She hit her. She was born at 7008, like Biggie. You know what I'm saying? Fucking, she went to school and the rest of the week, it was like I was floating on something, just watching her.

And then she had the party, the party was fucking cool as shit. There were like 30 fucking girls. Dirties, three girls and three boys. Jesus, at your house? No, fuck you. Oh. Fuck you, fucking Dave and Busters. Jesus, is that your house? No, fuck you. Oh. Fuck you.

Fucking Dave and Busters. Oh shit. Shitty food, shitty pizza, but the kids have a good time. They don't give a fuck. They just jump up and down and play. I still have fun at Dave and Busters. Bro, they had a Mr. Pac-Man, like a Mr. Pac-Man, a big motherfucker. I was like, man, I wonder if I left mushrooms in the car because I would have fucking eaten

some mushrooms and played that Mr. Pac-Man for about an hour. But the highlight of the night was a little boyfriend came. She hit the, oh Jesus. It's got a little, no. It's not like a real, okay. She's tougher than them. Okay. She's like, he's my boyfriend, that.

Okay. But they've known each other since the first year in school together. Right. And when they're together, you're like, these two fucking nerds., these two fucking nerds. They're two fucking nerds. He's mixed.

He's half black, half Irish. Nice kid, really nice kid. And it was like her and two little boys went. But he was sitting by my daughter the whole fucking day. And they would take off together. They would play games together. And then at one one point I saw him holding hands like he was taking something out of her hand and she's like but dog this is what life is all about that doesn't freak you out at all no why would it cuz your daughter

fucking three four years it's coming oh I know it's coming it's coming what am I gonna do throw her out fucking kids I know but not no. It's coming. What am I gonna do? Throw her out? What am I gonna do? Throw the guy out? They're fucking kids. I know, but no party. I had a girl's dad do that to me once. They just talked to me a little bit. Yeah, first off, when we were 12, and when they're 12, it's two different 12.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? When I was 12, I was already looking at Eddie Bitty Teddy. You know. I was looking to dance with you at the school dance. These kids don't even really, they don't, you know, they don't think so. I thought I was going to guess it was way worse. I've spoken to Mercy for fucking hours.

I talked to her about everything. And I was, I thought she'd be like wounding over the guy. Fuck no. The guy sat over there and she sat there and she didn't give a fuck Which is pretty confident of us. She was yeah And that was it we went home. We went to another party We dicked around and now she's 12 and we moved the fuck Well, now I got ready for next year Are you having a bat mitzvah for I don't know yet. You have to like a Cuban bar mitzvah. Sure. Why not?

I wouldn't have pork there. Jews are gonna show up, they're gonna go, what type of Bar Mitzvah is this gonna be? I'm gonna be having conga drums and chickens and shit. Oh my, that's a good Bar Mitzvah, I would take that. That's a good fucking Bar Mitzvah. Are there a lot of Jews in your neighborhood? She's probably gonna go.

All time. Oh shit, that's a fun time. Bar Mitzvahs are fun. I live in a high area, Jewish area, whatever. And it's good. You only gotta give 36 bucks as a gift. That's the best gift. Jews are the best.

I love it. Oh, 36. You'll get a $36 check. I guarantee it. Ask your Jewish neighbors. There's 18 is like the number for life. So for your bar mitzvah, get double life is the gift some people give more But you'll get that whoever you just go with the $36 check brother bar mitzvah there was no $36 checks

Jack I would open that envelope and seen $36. I would have gone in there and ripped off his little fucking sideburns $16.36, I would have gone in there and ripped off his little fucking sideburns. I'm getting my ain't cocksucker. Anyway, we'll be right back with my man Steve Avillo. What's happening beautiful people? Happy New Year. It's Tuesday the 14th. The New Testament is brought to you by, bam, Bluechew. We're all looking to be a little harder, better, faster, and stronger this year.

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Today the family member is a guy I Guy known for a long fucking time. He'll tell you we still keep we talk every fucking week about music or something stupid And I love them with all my heart. Mr. Steve Avila So brother good to see you. It's good to see you. So wait a second before you were saying that you met me at our lady Libra our lady Libra That's the first time I met you, yeah. Eighth grade, yeah. Eighth grade. Eighth grade. Yeah.

Because then when would I see you at the 64th Street Field? You, Rego, the other guitar kid, that was then. That was that summer, going into freshman year, no? Yeah. And you played the guitar and I'd never forget the string broke. Yes. You were playing one of the Rolling Stones or something. We were playing Brown Sugar.

There you go. I remember that. And the string broke. And I never forgot how I kept watching you and how you just kept playing. It wasn't like the string broke and you were going to tap the fuck out. No, you never stop. And I was really impressed. I'm like, holy shit.

I would have just gone home. I would have packed the guitar. In the middle of the song? Yeah. In the middle of the song. Yeah Yeah, the fucking string went by and he kept fucking jamming and singing who was the guitar player? Sprachio you had uh, no that was before sprach. That was uh, I think it was beckin back and um, uh, mike libell With the guitar player. Yeah. Yeah. Yep

Dennis da carlo rest in peace. He was the bass player. Yeah. Wow. Johnny Rego was on drums. Johnny Rego on drums. My brother Johnny. He's still fucking walking the streets, Johnny Rego. He is, he is.

He sits in with us every time we play now. Comes up and plays a few songs. We ran into him at the restaurant, right? At the restaurant, yeah. At the Rudy's. Over at Rudy's? We ran into him a few weeks. With Mike Bart.

Yeah, yeah. And it was fucking great great they do like a weekly thing there him and and Lee Icarino and yeah and Johnny so good guys yeah good best and I think I bumped into you freshman year the worst and the the rest was history pretty much the rest was fucking history pretty much a lot of Pretty much. To give you some light, Steve Avillo comes from a fucking tremendous family in North Bergen. I mean, fucking tremendous. If they ever have a top 10 families in North Bergen, Avillo's going to make the fucking list easy.

And it's the truth. A lot of people ran through that house. A lot of people went through the house. We had a lot of good laughs there. Your mom was like the universal mom to everybody. I still remember your dad passing. Shortly afterward, my mom passed. Yeah, yeah, your mom died about a year later.

About a year later. And I'll never forget that I got a call one night to meet you at your house with lubes for a fucking party, right? And it was, I get there and we're the only three young kids. Yeah. Yeah. Like we were the only three allowed there. It was all seniors and shit.

And I walk in there and I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna expect here. And they had a garbage can. Yeah, the garbage can with the cuckoo juice in it. With the cuckoo juice in it. With fucking everything, shoes. There was with the cuckoo juice in it. With the cuckoo juice in it. With fucking everything, shoes. There was bees in it. There were fucking bees in it.

We were throwing bees in it. Yeah, we were catching bees and throwing them. I always wondered that question because it was a punch and there was bees in it. I wondered if bees like fell into it or you were like, no. Where do you get all these bees? Well, they will be flying around because it's sweet, right? Right. So we just hit them into the punch. After a while you didn't care.

Yeah. And every time I was scared to go close to it, because every time he came close to that tub, one of the older guys would grab you, fall on me in the chest and scoop out of the garbage can and go here and you had to fucking drink it. I think I drank like six of those motherfuckers and I don't know what happened to me. It had every alcohol under the sun.

Everything. It didn't matter. Whoever came in, they'd come in with a bottle and it was a bottle of tequila, a bottle of Jack Daniel's, a bottle of gin, every alcohol under the sun was in that punch. It didn't make a difference. Sounds like it tasted great. That's crazy. The band didn't play that night. There't make a difference. That's crazy.

Yeah, it was awesome. The band didn't play that night. There was no band. Actually, we did. Somebody played that night. We did. That was Danny Lowenstein. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Danny Lowenstein, my brother, Dennis DiCarlo again, and me, that was it. And the drums stayed. Yes. The drums stayed, which we'll get back later. Because we used to jam in the back room. That's right. That's right. Fairies wear boots.

But I used to play basketball every day. And every day a cop came by and his name was Ray Ernesto. Do you remember Ray Ernesto? He lived by San Sulos. Yeah, the thing that stuck out the most with Ray was he always played basketball with us with colored socks. And it irritated the fuck out of us. God damn it, Ray.

Why must you wear fucking colored socks? He'd wear party socks. Right. I just want to clarify though. You said it irritated the fuck out of us. Is us everyone or just you? Me at the court. The people at the court.

Because in those days, if you wore colored socks to the high school, they sent you home. Because if you cut yourself, the ink would go into your skin. So you couldn't take gym class with colored fucking socks. So I always remembered that. And every time he'd come with the thing, I'm like, this motherfucker, he's going to cut himself and he's going to fucking die on the court and da, da, da, da. And then we'd elbow him lightly. Like we used to fuck him up a little bit.

We were young kids. That's what you do. But that night I left the house. I don't remember leaving. All I remember is being asleep since Sulo's lawn and Ray Ernesto kicked me and I recognized the sock. I'm like, God damn it. He's like, well, are you okay?

I'm like, yeah. Let me give you a ride home. And he's like, well, you okay? And I'm like, yeah, let me give you a ride home. And he fucking gave me a ride home. And he knocked on the door and my mom answered and she's like, what the fuck? I'm like, don't worry, it's Ray Arnesto. He's got colored socks on. Damn.

She's so fucking worried about it. She was pissed for like three days. But that started like a fucking movement. That started a movement of Villa. Yeah, that never ended till fucking 1985. Pretty much, pretty much. It really fucking did. That was just we were out every night after that in one form, shape or another.

And then I still remember like our concerts, we all went to see Ted after that, in one form, shape, or another. And then I still remember like our concerts, we all went to see Ted Nugent and Ariel Smith at the Metal Land, did you go to that one? Yes I did, yes I did, I was down on the floor. I'm about to walk home like a fucking idiot. Cars are doing 90 past me and shit. And you're walking on that freaking bridge. Why were you walking home?

Because that's what we did. Because that's how you got there. That's how you got there. That's how you got there. That's a great answer. You think mom gave you a ride in the wagon? Not the concerts, no. But they have buses here. Buses?

We have time for buses. We talked about being on the bus. We have time for buses. I don't remember buses going out to Giant Stadium. No, not the Giant Stadium. We walked, Jack. Yeah. How far away is that?

From my house, from the villos' house, an hour, an hour and a half. I still remember walking home from the track with no money and cars doing 90 next to you and I'm yelling at Ronnie, we had $80, what the fuck is wrong with you? Fucking cars are doing 100 past us now. But that was one of our first like all North Bergen concerts. You saw a lot of people. Hell yeah. And the second concert I went to where the whole fucking place was North Bergen was ACDC Highway to Hell with Ted Nugent.

With Ted Nugent. It was the headline. At the fucking garden. Yep. And I still remember like the creepy details from getting on the bus and 20 kids would be on the, because that's New York Lee. Okay. Big difference. So we would get the Kennedy Boulevard bus, or we would just walk to Union City with liquor

and drink and then take the bus by the post office and go right into the fucking city of the garden and then walk to the garden like we own those streets. And we were fucking 13. Yeah, pretty much. What were you drinking at 13? I know that's normal now, but for me, like what are you drinking like vodka? Are you drinking like, like?

Back in the day it was probably just a lot of beer. Jesus Christ. I think beer sometimes, you know. They used to show up with a case of nips, which looks like a fucking delivery box now 64 bottles right it looked like a fucking box Like when you walk into somebody's house with a case of nips, you're like, what the fuck are they doing? That's 64 beers, right? Yeah, right off the bat. That's 64 fucking beers. I don't think I've drank 64 animals

pretty much You got like a fucking animal And that that was it. We started with me by my house, you know I always drank at my mother's bar like little shots or I knew but I started from scratch. I started with the booms warm You do the strawberry? We got a fucking miserable addict That was a Larry thing Larry used to drink the booms farm because he didn't think his mother and father could smell it on his breath. I'm like, yeah, okay It was the shit we drank

Like you know what I was thinking about though walking up 46th Street Hill while mixing a cocktail I Can't walk up that motherfucking out Walking up 46th Street Hill while mixing a cocktail. I can't walk up that motherfucker now. Just walking it. It would be a three day adventure if we had to walk that up now. Is that big? It's long, but it's steep. It's really steep.

That sounds terrible. When it got cold, we turned around and walked up backwards. You drain the vodka, you drain the Gatorade, and you drain the vodka you drain the Gatorade And you put the vodka right in the Gatorade bottle and you shook that motherfucker and went on the number one bus half the time We didn't have we would just save on the number one bus. It was 35 cents. We said fuck it white Why take the bus just walk? Yep. We're walking on fucking vodka juice You know ain't nobody gonna do nothing to us we're walking and then we go to a place called fucking wizards oh my god what's it that was a pinball place next to Hathaway yeah yeah yeah

there used to be a pinball place on Kennedy Boulevard there like a little pinball place right and that's where all the weird people hung out Like kids you never even saw play football. You just saw them at night by the trains. Like you know, doing creepy things and shit. Nobody you knew hung out at Wizards. It was always kids that grew in the dark or they were a little fucked up. I feel like I would have been at Wizards. And people would say, you want something from Wizards?

And somebody would go in and come out, listen, we got like 18 hits of Mescaline, even though it was like 20 of us. Like we run up there with 15 of us, and walk in there and the guy would go, what are you guys doing? We need mescaline. 15 hits, I got eight, well go get seven more,

cause you're light. It was fucking insane. Did you ever play pinball? I can't imagine you playing like pinball. I play cockball, but pinball. I play with my balls. I do cockball. What pinball? I'm playing with my balls. I do like Mr. Pac-Man. Yeah.

I like Pac-Man and shit, but I was never really like a pinball guy. You know? There's the pinball machine at Soules. When we were like 13 years old, like you're in eighth grade, you're in grammar school, you still playing pinball.

That's all they had. They didn't have those things until Wizards. No race cars. That's when you had all the, I guess kids would laugh at now, but what we thought was great. I like pinball. Pinball's fun.

Mr. Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man. Ms. Pac-Man. You know my mom had the fucking bowling thing that you had to spray the thing on and then shoot the metal thing and the pins go up and stuff. That's what she had at the bar. No pin ball machine. You just reminded me of one of the first shows I played with the past masters. We were playing in this dive bar down in Union, New Jersey,

and on the side of it, in this alley, that was still the bar, had one of those things. And there was like four people in the place listening to his play with about three teeth between them all, man. It was hysterical. It was hysterical. But these are the gigs we used to get from our booking agent at the time, affectionately known as Nick the Dick. But oh my god.

That's what you made me think. There's this woman dancing around in front of the stage and I'm just about to sing and Russell comes up to me and he says, she doesn't stop dancing around the stage. I'm going to kick her right in the cunt bone. So once you take your band outside of city limits in New Jersey, you don't know what you're going to run into. You really don't. It's the Addams family out there. Oh my God, is it?

And that includes where I live. Like even that area there, once you go south from there, it's a different type of Jersey. They wiggle to a different waggle. They're not your usual Jersey people. This place was like in the middle of nowhere. It was a nightmare. It was a nightmare. So we went to see Ted. like in the middle of nowhere. It was a nightmare. It was a nightmare.

So we went to see Ted. And now was that the garden when we started ripping the chairs out? Yes. Yeah. Like Madison Square Garden? Madison Square Garden. ACDC was the opening band.

And the cool thing about that is where we were sitting, Bon Scott came running down the aisle with Angus Young on his shoulders and Angus is playing solo to a whole lot of Rosie which you know that was great but Ted played unbelievable show and everybody nobody would leave everybody's calling him back for an encore. So he comes out and plays an old Chuck Berry song, old Carol, right? As soon as he starts playing it, chairs start flying in the air down in an orchestra. Metal folding chairs. Jesus Christ. We're breaking them apart because they were like held together, but I don't know what

the hell, breaking them apart. So you figure, you know, when in Rome, we just start winging these things up in the air. And as you're winging them and the things building, everybody's kind of backing up, backing up, backing up. By the time the song was over, there was a mountain of chairs in that one section of orchestra. It makes Conor McGregor seem not so bad.

They're throwing metal chairs. Yeah. I remember whipping one and looking. In your mind, you hear like, and you're like, oh shit. And then somebody's like, hey, who threw that? I don't know, some guy up there. Like I was all scared and shit. Yeah, I don't know how it started,

but we just all joined in. Everybody joined in and it was just, Chuck, you just saw these things flying up everywhere. That was a fun show. It was a fun location. They don't do that anymore. Oh man, you can't get away with that shit anymore. And then the second show I went to see with you guys was an out, it was an outrageous

show because I knew nothing about them. All I knew to the stones, some girls was fucking tremendous. And one day it was kind of nice out out it was April and you motherfuckers were like we're chipping in for a fucking a pack or something I don't know I'm like what for you're like we're gonna see new barbarians tonight yeah and I'll never forget I called Mike Denny the devil to see if he'd get tickets and shit he's like nah we're just going over to the scalp fuck it and that was another night where I saw 82,000 North Bergen people there.

Yeah, yeah, it was packed. That was a good fucking show, that. It was a great show. I had blue sky, see, maybe the blue section up on the top of the garden. We used to do this all the time, because you can't really afford much, right? So we were sitting way up in blue.

Soon as the lights would go down, we just started hopping over the wall, running down into the orchestra section. That's how you always got down front. Then I went to see Yes, and they were so bad, we moved back. Wait a second. That's the first show we moved back. We got to go.

We got to go up to the top. This ain't sounding good no more. They had that circular stage. Why didn't you just leave? No, Yes would come every year. Okay. Yes, we come to this area here, August 28th, 29th, 30th, September 1st, 2nd and 3rd. I still remember that. It was like six nights they do the garden. And every year we went. I'm running around the bough. After like the fourth

year, you're like, I don't want to see this no more. What am I here for again? Because it only cost you like $5. That's the thing that we had the opportunity. Like now, if you want to go see somebody, you got to splurge $250. I don't want to splurge $250 for fucking anybody. But for a band that I don't know about and people say they're pretty good and I heard a couple songs, $5 ain't fucking bad to shoot into the city for. If you don't like them, you fucking go home.

That's it. Oh, Jesus Christ. God bless you. God bless me, yeah. But there was a lot of fucking music, a lot of shows. And what people got to remember is that my mom had just died. So this slipped in to take my mind off of things. And I was full in.

Like I was fucking- Yes, you were. You were committed. I was things. And I was full in. Like I was fucking- Yes, you were. You were committed. I was committed. I was really fucking committed. And I was good till, well, right before my mom died, we robbed a beer truck and we took it to Cherpies house and we stole a bottle of vodka and he had Pep Mishnaps or it was the other way around.

He had Pep Mishnaps as father and we had, and we fucking, we put, it wasn't, and here's the other thing you gotta remember, when you robbed one of those beer trucks, you didn't really know what you were getting. No, you never did. Because we robbed the case of quartz. You know how long it takes to cold those motherfuckers up in the tub with ice? They're 32 fucking ounces. So we had to sit there for like an hour, like listening to music.

So me and LeBron made vodka and pet mish naps and we fucking put them in the freezer and we got fucking leveled. That was the day. And then we sit there till three and walk in the house like nothing happened. Like, hey, how you doing? Good, how was school today?

Tremendous. What'd you learn? A ton. How do you not know what you get? Isn't it in a command? You're just pulling boxes out of things. And there's no labels on them back then? No, there's labels like Budweiser, Miller, whatever. Okay.

But you'd pull it out and run. So you didn't know exactly what you had, you know, and plus, you know, we were just, we were just doing some of these things for the first time. So we learned as we went, you know, different sized boxes mean different things. But the first time we did it, we didn't know, we just pulled shit out of there. And we did it by hash ways. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And then I continued to do it from Albertsons, because Albertsons, you just walked in there,

you walked in with three fucking freshmen and everybody, it was like a little looting today. You just walked out and see what security chased. And whoever they didn't chase, you went into the park and once you're in the park, fuck you, you're gone. Now it's not North Bergen no more, it's Hudson County problem. It was easier once we had cars. Once you had a car, you'd pull up

and you'd just hang out the window and you'd pull them into the car and take off. You know, that was easier. Now I still remember my freshman year, somebody, I don't know who, it wasn't me, well somebody went on a fucking tear and they took like four cases of Michelob and they hit him in the lockers,

in by the gym. And fucking, you know who came to me and he's like, I'm calling the cops, I know they're in your locker. And I'm like, listen, you're not gonna open up my fucking locker. Not today. Mr. Lee. Oh, boy.

Mr. Lee and me got neck to neck. He's like, I'm opening up that locker. I said, dog, I'm telling you, you're not opening that fucking locker. He was tough as nails. Bring a cop, bring whoever the fuck you want. And I had nothing in my locker. It was just a point. You ain't going in my fucking locker.

Not today. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow, but not fucking today. Not with your attitude. And he hated me after that. We hated each other. You didn't go in the locker? Mm-mm.

I got a bump because the athletic department was there. The athletic department used to be there. Yeah, it was right there. Two doors down and I think Randy Shave was in there with somebody else. Randy Shave's office. I'm like, Randy, come on here. Let's see what the fuck is really going on here.

Yeah. Because Randy Shave liked me, so that's the only, that's why I didn't open up the fucking locker. And I think I took business law at the time. And I remember that if, I remember. You don't have to. why can't I picture this business law was right there too it was like eighth and ninth period by the door and I remember the girl that was in the class with me she had given a bunch of

blowjobs or something and they said she used to shake they said she used to shake when she gave blowjobs my junior year, I don't fucking know. Her whole body would shake? Yeah, like her whole body would shake and shit. So I don't know, but they said that in there, that if you get something in your mailbox and it doesn't belong to you, just because it's your mailbox, it's your property.

It belongs to you. So after that, I started stealing my own social security checks and shaking, you know what I'm saying like like the government sent me two checks one time by mistake and I stole them both They're not gonna get me now 1980 what are you gonna do to me now? They might now that you're broadcasting it. No, who gives a fuck? I broadcast a lot of things I think they got a list to go to. They would have had you by now. Yeah, they would have had you by now. How many people, Steve, were like Joey back then?

Or was he like as unique as he is now? No, there's something in the water in that town. Something in the water. There's a lot of crazy, crazy people. Some crazy than others. Some, you know, some special. Very. Very. But yeah, there's definitely everybody.

And the thing is about the same thing about that town with the stuff that's in the water, so to speak. Right. You run into people you haven't seen in 20 years and it's like you haven't missed a day. It's as my cousin actually said it, he called it, he goes, my daughter's called North Bergen a cult.

They're called a cult. He says, you're not a cult, you're a tribe. Now that makes sense to me. It's a very weird thing that I have been, you know, I've studied two things in my life really hard. And one is the comedy store. Yeah. And I finally came to the conclusion that the skies had like a little beam coming down and put all those funny people together at one time, you know, and then I have my thoughts about North Bergen.

And I think and it's been like it's been like a 30 year struggle when I learn things without learning them. Like when I watched the Sinatra documentary on HBO years ago, they told you that at that time the Irish didn't let the Italian go up past 9th Street. And that stuck with those people. When you, and I've said this when Barone was on when the when you look at the core of the North Bergen families They're all whole book and they all had to walk through all book. Yeah, they just didn't pop up in North Bergen 60% of those people walk through fucking whole book

And then I still remember the finals at the metal lands Where we had these short little plug Italian guys Yeah, and they're pushing these black guys around and these fucking white kids like they were nothing. And I'm like, there's something here. I don't know what it is. And then my mother died and it opened up a complete different treasure chest

that was right here in North Bergen. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do. So when you look at North Bergen from a distance, you go, what a fucking dump. But it had everything at that time. It raised us. We learned to raise ourselves. We were out till two in the morning. I mean, there's a comedian, Brett Ernst, that does a joke about when you live in Jersey, that all you got to do is go out after midnight and there's always one motherfucker out, hey, how you doing? Don't you have a house?

No, no, there was eight kids like that in North Bergen. Every park had a kid that would, if you just walk past, you hear psst, psst. And you're like, what's going on? We got a party here, there's a chick behind the weeds, we gotta eat it. You're like, I didn't even know this existed. You know, you didn't even know,

you thought you were going home. You told your mom, I'm coming home. And next thing you know, as you get to your block, a car picks you up. And they're like, we're going to the city, you're coming. I was going home, I got homework, come on. Let's go, we're gonna go eat or something. And next thing you know,

you're coming home at two in the morning. And on the way there, something happened. you hit somebody with a car something happened you know so you got a story i mean it was just superb like i was walking around those hills wounded wounded you know i was an orphan i'm walking those hills wounded and those are hills motherfuckers. OK, those are fucking Hills. And I still always had somewhere to be, somewhere to go. Yeah, they did. Special place. Why do you think New Jersey has such a bad rap like outside of New Jersey?

Like, do you agree with it or does it make you feel bad? Listen, there's been bad rap between everybody for 30 fucking years and at the end we're all the same Mm-hmm. It's all the same kind of mentalities just wrapped up just you know, it's it's an East Coast mentality They have this in Philly, right when you go to Philadelphia. It's pretty those people fucking out of their minds, too They really I just feel like especially like in New York. I feel like New Jersey has a like everyone's like who Jersey I don't know. Maybe you guys don't feel that way Fuck him. I never I've never had a problem being from Jersey lead because I knew what I got out of here. I Knew what I got out of here was a master's degree in fucking

political science, crime, how to wake up in the morning with no money and have $50 by lunchtime. This is an education here. How to call off somebody and say, I need a job and a day later you're fucking working. This is an education when we were growing up. It really was. He's family I look at, he's family. He's a brother to me. Like, he's my brother.

You know, he's blood. Like, we know each other that long. We breathe each other's air that long. What we're doing now, we did in his backyard 40 years ago. And there was no fucking heat. No. There was no fucking heat. We come back there, there's no heat, a set of drums, some fucking curtain,

beer and some guy rolling fucking joints and that's it. And everybody got along. We've been doing this for fucking years. This nothing change. The only thing we did was put our jackets on and go to a diner or something to go to the one on Collins Collins, Collins, Collins Diner. That's it. Nothing's changed.

These streets are the same. I love when I go, I bitch about when I grew up and given that terrace because they haven't done a fucking thing down there since my mother died. But then I go up, can they up Tonley Avenue and I see Sal's and I see the old, the biker place, which is Vienna's hamburger joint now. They used to be the old mill. The old mill, all that shit. That was a weird neighborhood when we were fucking kids.

Oh, hell yeah. That was a weird little fucking neighborhood. There was a bank there, a drive-through bank. There was Fisher whatever the stereo spot and across the street were these buildings and they had little trees All right. Now when I discovered those buildings in 78 buying I used to buy drugs in there I still remember the kids name and then he moved up to cocaine And then he got up to cocaine. And then he got thrown out of that, but it doesn't matter that we've been lurking in those apartment buildings for years. You know what I'm talking about, right?

Yeah. And I remember one night, it's gotta be three in the fucking morning. Again, another North Bergen story. Three in the fucking morning. I'm walking home and who do I see under the tree? But Deedee can Contaro and Kruger because it was light raining out and they're drinking a beer and they got a nap pack on the floor it's 2 30 in the morning both of them are in high school okay both of them in high school I walk up to them what's up guys none you want a beer coke yeah awesome out of, it started fucking raining hard.

And we had to go under the building, and the guy had a bathroom window there, right? Ten minutes in, the guy's got to raise his hand. Excuse me, can you go away from my window? You guys are laughing too hard out there. And we're like, fuck you. And they slammed the window. And Kruger just put his hand through the fucking window.

Then we ran away. That's it. Three in the morning, like nothing happened. But that little neighborhood used to be a hopping neighborhood and I had a way. I only lived, even after my mom died, I only lived what? Seven minutes from your house. And this time I would pass out in the garage and Steve would leave me out there. And I remember one night walking home all fucked up

and there was a possum. It had to be this fucking big. He jumped from one tree to another and he was hanging like a gorilla. And I just shot down that fucking street. I'm like, this motherfucker's gonna kill me. He's gonna fucking kill me. And you would come out in the morning, he'd just be there?

Or you knew he passed out in the garage? No, we'd leave. Like he'd say, fuck it, I've had enough. He'd would come out in the morning and he'd just be there or you knew he passed out in the garage? No, we'd leave. He'd say, fuck it, I've had enough. He'd leave us out there with three people or something like that. Yeah, yeah. He had enough. It's 1130.

All I would do is- Fucking guy was an A student. I was. Basically go upstairs, go to bed. Yeah, we got him out there. A bunch of losers getting him out there. Guys, keep it down. What would your parents say?

Oh, well, my dad died when I was young. My mom was happy to know that we weren't out somewhere else. I don't think that exists anymore. No, because now, if people drink it at your house, you get arrested. Right. So, you know, don't get me started. I still remember walking into your shed one day

and there was like four fucking knuckleheads and they were breaking glass and shit to eat it. Yeah, yeah. That was my brother and folk and. No, I think it was younger guys. Nah, it was them. Because there was a time in North Bergen where people wanted to eat shit.

Yeah, mice, glass. Mice, glass, metal. They called it shit. Clowby and those guys used to bob for crabs. They'd put crabs in a bowl, pot, whatever the hell you want to do. They used to bob for crabs, come up with the crab hanging on their lip, their ear, their nose. Talk about crazy.

I was in until this part. What are you eating glass? How many pieces of glass can you eat? I never did. Somebody went on Dave Letterman and ate a bicycle and these motherfuckers thought they could do it. It only takes a jersey guy to go you know what I could do that and it was in our neighborhood. So it was somebody around here that started eating metal. But I strictly remember one night towards the holidays, there were fucking a table and they're breaking things. And they're like eating little things.

And that's an uptown was eating fucking mice and glass. They would bite the top of a bottle off. That's what they would do. Look how serious you got. I still remember that. Bite the top. That was folk. Folk.

My brothers. You know what made us special? Like do you know what real like, all right, we had a bunch of characters. You had your brother's characters. We had Dee Dee. we had Loobs, we had fucking Heavyweight, we had Darren Regal, God bless us all. And that dude, I still remember doing crazy shit

with him freshman year. But I always think about this, like people go, you know, was your town really funny? And I go, bro, everybody was funny in North Bergen, okay, at that time. But the people who made it funnier were the people that were around us as satellites. You're like Joey, I don't get it.

I eat Nick's pizza. I eat Phil Simms, the cop that looked like the football coach, fucking in high school, we had certain teachers that it was always a fucking party when you saw Mr. Palmesano would jump up and down and Bonjorno, yeah, and you know, what the fuck? You know, it was the ass who do we have downtown? We had somebody that we would bust his balls downtown We always had some Sal obviously with the liquor store sound. Yeah, then said no, you're not you know

That was shall and Vito break his balls It was the characters around us That really brought like when I think of childhood if I would have got a TV show I would have wrote Nick in you have to write Nick in Nick Was the most craziest pizza place you could have close to a high school ever. Like that should not have been allowed because not only was it Nick's but I still remember Quarky's being next door. And as a kid you shouldn't be seeing that shit.

Well was it allowed or did people just not know? What was what allowed? Well I mean so the whole two things I know about Nick's are the two stories that come to mind are the flies lying in it. The Sicilian pie. And then you would both sell him jewelry and then steal it back to sell to him again. And then sell to him again. I don't think that was in the menu that he all in jewelry. Yeah. In 1979, these fucking knuckleheads decide to go on a, we're drinking every night while the hostages

are in captivity. Well, that was nice of you. And I ran. Do you remember that shit? Yeah, yeah. And the big topic was chlamydia, something like that. And I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So for football season, I wound up, I grew a beard and it was like a beard mostly under here, you know, you can grow it like 16 years old. I shaved my head and I come walking into the pizzeria and he goes, holy shit, it's fucking Khomeini. Khomeini. Khomeini. He couldn't say it to Kay. It's fucking Khomeini.

So it's a funny thing is, you know, I was married with kids. I went back in there again. This is before he sold it. I walked back in just to see if he was there. And I was there with my wife and my kids. And I walk in, he goes, Hormany? I swear to God, he picked me out like that. What a good dude.

He's the best. He's the best. I was there the night when he started yelling at somebody and they opened up the cheese and the pepper they threw at him and shit. He was pissed. He's like, Goko, look at these animals. And then about shortly later, I went in there on a quailude one night.

I had puke all over me and shit. They were trying to feed me. And the next day he would see me and go, Balushi. He would call me Balushi. That was my name for fucking forever. Balushi, you fucked up. And then one night I saw him outside, we were smoking hash outside a,

I can't, I'm 30's car, God rest his soul. We were smoking, I'm in the front seat, and Nick, what's going on tonight? He's like, nothing, quiet. I go, Nick, come here. He comes over to the car and we're smoking. And I go, Nick, you's going on today? He's like, nothing, quiet. I go, Nick, come here. He comes over to the car, and we're smoking. And I go, Nick, you want a hit? And he goes,

and then he looks around and he goes, give me more. And that was it, I didn't see him after that. About a week later I saw him, Balushi, what the fuck you give me? I smoke a lot of hash growing up, but that shit Talk he used to torture us we used to lay into him too. My favorite was Vinari Because the iced tea Oh God. Yeah was five cents cheaper at hash ways So Vinari would cross the street and Nick would be talking to you like having a great conversation like yeah Nick your grandfather wants me to go let's fucking Vanity and we go he went across the street dog

he would throw that counter up and go out there and whenever he just be making the corner he go Vanity you fucking Jew oh god but you remember you sock suck too. You suck too. You. Oh my God. He would yell that in broad daylight. And then you had a fucking bar next to it that was owned by a car salesman. One of the best in the city, what people don't know. He was like known in the city for selling cars. He was like the top salesman.

Corky? Yeah. I had no idea. Manhattan Honda going there now. They still have a wall to fucking corky That motherfucker. Do you have like a crazy eye something you looked at him? It looked like his one eye was never focusing on a crazy everything You know, I still remember being like 15 and

Being that they're at three and people coming out of there with blood on it Yeah, people hammered people fucking eating quail eggs's fuckin' on cars, and you're like, man, I can't wait to go in there. But that place was a bucket of blood for sure. That was, I'm tellin' you. The pool table in there, that's where all the fights came from, people breaking cues over people's heads and stuff. It was a nutty, nutty, nutty, nutty place.

It was insane, dog. And then by the time we got there, like once we started getting older, they changed it from Tom and Corky's to the best, to Gregory's seven day weekend. Who the fuck was Gregory? Corky. Yeah.

It was upscale now. Oh, okay. And he would answer the fucking phone, Corky's the best bar in Northern New Jersey. And he had the loudest, the fucking jukebox. That was his pride and joy. That he was really fucking loud in there. And we go in there, dog, and it was just like, he didn't let us in till we were 18. Like he held us to the fucking letter.

Was he supposed to make you wait till you're 21? No, it was 18 then. Oh, it was. Okay. Yeah. It was 18. A year later it jumped to 19. And then two years later it was 21. Fuck. Yeah. Do you know why I still laugh about a village

that people would never understand? What's that? The dude up the corner from the cemetery by my house, they used to sell the coldest beer in North Bergen, and he used to bang on the door and he'd be sleeping on the pool table. Yeah. That beer was fucking cold though. Huh. That beer was fucking cold though.

That beer was fucking cold though. I remember we drank it all the way down the shore one time, it was still fucking frozen. You could knock on his door at four in the morning. Four in the morning, what was his fucking name? Oh God, I don't remember. Jesus Christ. I'm sorry. He had a little bar there.

It was just a little bar. And it was the people from the projects, creepy people. Like at least Puerto Ricans go out into Union City. These people just glare at those projects there and they would only go to that bar. There were some creepy bars in North Bergen. That was that one. You had the cove with the owner who had the bad wig by Fernie's house, the strip club. It smelt so bad in there. I remember I fingered a woman in there once.

Had to wash my hand for three days straight. It was fucking horrible. It was fucking horrible. And this was a strip club that smelled bad? A strip club right on, right down the corner from McGuire Chevrolet. So if you're on McGuire Chevrolet and you take it all the way down if you hit Bergen line

You went too far that was 70th Street blocks in like in the corner. It was only open Thursdays Fridays and Saturdays and the owner had a horrible fucking wig and you went in any come over like a gangster Listen, this is my plate. Let's get out of here Somebody said something to him once Roger But was that other real slimy place on the boulevard down to Buffs or something like that? Where was Buffs? Buffs was on the boulevard,

but I don't remember what street. Okay, Buffs was past the stadium. So it was down like in the- 18th? Teens, upper teens, yeah. 19th, I remember going to Buffs, it was no big fucking deal. No, it was just another slimy place.

I didn't, you know, at that time, I don't know, we weren't even into strippers. That was not our fucking thing. We were into drinking, getting fucked up, and listening to fucking good music. That was it. He turned me on to the Who, Quadrophenia. He turned me on to the who quadrophenia You turned me on to some fucking good albums man the kinks Lola versus Superman power man Power man, but it's straight brother. Get it straight. I Was hanging with you when low budget came out. Yeah, you turned me out the joke. It's Jay Giggles Jay Giggles I was all war always growing up. Fuck you and Jay giggles

Let me tell you something I saw them I saw them years and years later they reunited for a tour And I saw them at the Arts Center had third row two and a half hours non-stop. They were unbelievable and he giggled the whole time Look at me. He was married to Faye Dunaway Yeah, the city the singer Peter wolf Peter wolf was married to somebody for a while Faye Dunaway Who would it thunk? Do you think you would have liked music without Steve like or like do you like it at all? I love music. I love music, but I come from a heavy Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin

Led Zeppelin Rolling Stone, you know and Steve like I had I Like the hoop but I didn't think I turned you on to Floyd too at the time Yes, you turned me on to animals Yeah, which I will be eternally grateful for because I even had it on last week. That's still my favorite Airplanes no, that's all with the dogs I used to say it's the one with the if you look at it's got a factory and a pig flying over it on the cover And what's the what's the one where it's like airplanes and they shoot guns. He used to put it on I mean, it's the wall. Oh, that's okay. Jesus Christ before we get into that story real quick

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Alright, those edibles hit you? A little bit, they're starting. A little bit, okay. What do you mean? You can't give them to me and then make fun of me for it. I'm not making fun of you. Really? You've just been sitting there a little fucking crazy looking. Yeah. There's a little bit of lube in him, you know little fucking crazy look. There's a little bit of lubes in him.

What happened? There's a little bit of lubes in him. You know, you hear that? Oh, please, I see it. I say it, I see it. So one thing that I wanted to talk to you about that's important to music that you saw, and I learned it from you, we were there to watch it.

You, your brothers, you all got tickets to go see Ted and Leonard Skinnett. Leonard Skinnett actually, that was right. The crash happened right before that. Right before, but you had tickets, all you guys. You and your brothers had tickets. And the crash happened and Leonard Skinnett was on top of their fucking world at the time. Yeah. And I always said this, Leonard Skinnett was on top of the world, but by a fucking margin at that time. They had just cleared the field.

They were like, you know what? Fuck you motherfuckers. They died. We were freshmen that year. Yeah, I think it was 70. It was either, yeah, it was 77, 78. 78. So we were freshmen, maybe.

Maybe. So, and all of a sudden we just knew Alam came out, this new band, and they were fucking great. They were called The Cars. And we all liked the fucking cars and shit. And then another band came out that now I'm too high to even think of a name But like three bands came out and I've always said to myself if Leonard skin it wouldn't have died All that shit with it. They would have first off Southern Rock like at that time we had Molly Hatchet

Yeah, we had a bunch of savages like not this shit. They're looking up. We had guys missing teeth Fucking liver problems, but these motherfuckers are dropping it on you. They weren't the best looking guys in the world. Leonard Skinner never won a beauty contest. You know what I'm saying, Leonard? I was. For the listeners who don't know what they look like,

how would you describe what Leonard Skinner looked like? It doesn't really fucking matter. What I'm trying to say is that now country music you got bows you got curls you got muscles You know those dude didn't have a muscle only in their finger. Okay, that's it to shoot heroin and to trickle a fucking guitar That's it and to open the fucking Budweiser can so You know, could you imagine? So, you know, could you imagine if Lennox Skinner wouldn't have died, they wouldn't that come back to metal that came back in 80?

Wouldn't happen. That wouldn't happen. Probably not. Probably not. That's fucking crazy. Yeah. And then thank God the cars lasted. They came out with a banger and fucking 79, Candy Hill, the second album. But we were all gearing up for something. And it was, I never saw anything like this in my life.

You know, I had been turned on to everybody else, like Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon. And you buy the album, you bring it home, you do a hit of acid, you trip, you wake up with bubble gum on your shoulder And you go that was fucking fun You know that was it and I loved money and all that shit And then I think the second album I got into was wish you were here

Yeah And then one day in your shed you started playing animals and pigs and I'm gonna first time I heard dogs. I just cried It's a story of life. We used to say it all the time. It is. Whenever I get confused, I put dogs on and it sets me to fuck straight. You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real meat. You gotta sleep on your toes when you're on the street.

You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed. End the fucking story on a daily. If that's not in the back of your mind when you leave the house, shoot yourself, because that's basically what it is. Shoot yourself. That's not in the back of your mind. If you're leaving the house, like, oh my God, shoot yourself. That's it. All those years when I used to get up angry and somebody got robbed, that's why I left the house in my mind listening

to somebody's going down today. Somebody's got their lunch money in my fucking pocket. I want it I get a little emotional. Yeah, I could see that big shit starts coming out. I'm scared now. I know I know But then it was really funny Led Zeppelin came out with their album in 79. I entered the outdoor and pretty outdoor which was a fucking flop Yeah, but I heard into the it was a couple of decent songs. A couple of decent songs. I found out why. Southbound Soiree is my favorite on that album.

You know why the album bombed? Did you see it? Did you read why years later? No. Pays never showed up. Never showed up. He was on heroin. Oh, God, yeah, he was in a bad place.

And then you throw on when they did the festival in 79 never worth Throw that on when they do Achilles last stand. He's just a fucking bone The heroin the heroin is fucking eating him alive. They're like, oh my god this motherfucker These are real musicians not these okie doke motherfuckers that jump around today with a tattoo on their ankle Look how cool I am. Get the fuck out of here jump around for they with a tattoo on their ankle. Look how cool I am. Get the fuck out of here. So then we witnessed something else.

So Led Zeppelin came out and then we were all waiting for that tour and that motherfucker drank too much. And that was the end of that. He drank himself to death, yeah. I was at Moffin Joe's when I found that. Really? I remember that place. I was at Moff muffin Joe's eating the fucking

ham and egg on a roll Talking to Joe about something who ever the fuck knows And I was there and I was I was a sad that I was fucking heartbroken Like my chance to see the other zeppelin is dead like I'm yeah, I'm never gonna hold D You know I'm saying like I was playing on OD and it lets up on the second night or something That's when we used to have to get four tickets had a shot you had to mail them in Yeah, mailed them in four tickets. They have to mail them in so you sent for he sent for me George Tricky Nick and next thing, you know fucking only two of us got chosen, but we all go into the concert bitch

Then that was a fun fucking like we were on a tear Only two of us got chosen, but we all going to the concert, bitch. That was a fun fucking, like we were on a tear. We started on a tear, Vils, that April, we went to... Wow. There was a group in school that was the gourmet club. Yeah, yeah. And on Sundays, one Sunday a month, they took you somewhere to eat and you had to act like — and it was supposed to be like juniors and seniors, but I don't know how we got on

the bus, right? And we got on the bus, it rained, we went to Chinatown or something, and they took us back to Mr. Palu's house. Oh, God. God rest his soul. And all of a sudden we're like, Palu, what's going on downstairs? He's like, nothing. What's going on downstairs? He's like nothing That's just a basement go look or something and we went down and we found some albums or something next thing, you know

Somebody went for beer. Yeah These these are our coaches and teachers They want to come in downstairs We got like cases and cases. Oh my God. We left at eight o'clock after 60 minutes, Doug. That's how embarrassing that was. We got there at 12. We're in the guy's basement drinking.

They're upstairs like, oh my God. How do we get rid of these kids? That was right after the new barbarians and we were just on a tap. Everybody was doing their own thing. I was downtown, but I would come up at night China costly would have parties every fucking once a week and shit tremendous and then I Went to the hospital and my mom punched a ticket

And when I got out when everything when the smoke cleared I remember like I was in your house like a week after my mom died. We're talking about something And you're like the fucking war comes out in two weeks Yeah, so that's when it started guys that was Fucking Insane I think it came out the day after Thanksgiving Something like that. I just remember like you would hear the radio Pink Floyd's new album, little sound bite here, little sound bite there.

But there was this huge buildup every time. A new album came out from a big artist like that. We were going into the holidays with Pink Floyd with a new fucking album. Everybody was fired up. And then you motherfuckers drop a bomb on me one night. Are you coming to get Pink Floyd tickets with me tomorrow? Yeah, and that started like at night like at 1130 Yeah, yeah, we were all gonna go get pink Floyd tickets, but it was just hearsay The morning when the smoke cleared

It was me lubes you and Joe Fokarachio in the green. In the Green Monster. In the Green Monster, okay. I'm guessing that was the car. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah, it was the car. I'm in the backseat behind Fok, and he's driving, he's a little excited. We're like on the fucking 46 or the 17 or something. We're on a the fucking 46 or the 17 or something. We're on a real fucking highway. And he's a little excited.

Also, you hear boom, and you see a fucking, he hit one of those. Right away, he hit something. That was a cone or something like that. And then we went to Paramus, maybe. I think it was Paramus, because that's where the ticket master was, yeah. And then we ended up at St. Peter's Prep. Yeah, we had to go down to Jersey City because we were going down to Boulevard when he when he dropped the

Himself out and the car is doing this son of Like oh my god. Oh my god. I didn't even want to say nothing. I didn't even want to say nothing. I'm sorry. Oh my god. I blew it. No, no, no, no, no, like I didn't want to, I didn't even want to bring up that the cherry hit his shirt because it's so, people go, it's such a bullshit story, but the cherry really did his, he was so excited, he kept talking to us in the back and all of a sudden he's like, and he's fucking hitting his shirt. And I don't know, he's hitting things. It was just fucking superb. And we didn't stop. Like that holiday was rough for me and shit. But then these motherfuckers opened up the year with,

we're having the Island of Insanity party. Oh God, yeah. And I'm like, what? And they're like, yeah, we go to Hudson County, it freezes over and we walk over the puddle and we fucking have a party on the island. I'm like, I'm not going for this shit. And it was cold. Yeah, it was cold.

Cold didn't bother us back then. It was cold. Didn't bother us us back then. It was cold. Didn't bother us. And I ate a Kwe Loo. Well, maybe it bothered you. I ate a Kwe Loo with Loobs and Folk. And we had to get off the island. And we ended up walking to the Wing Fong Chinese restaurant. I remember the Wing Fong.

And we're sitting there. And it's me and lose on this side I think I know this one We didn't we were too hard at dining-dash Like they were waiting for us to dining-dash. I kept telling the guy no, no, no, no, no, we paid tonight. No running I Don't forget me and Lou was having a conversation and folk just falls asleep in the pork fried rice Breathing you can see the thing and we're like And we're like trying to fuck and at that point we don't even give a fuck and chirpies like lubes

Folk folk get up and when he got up he looked up and a bunch of rice came out of his mouth Yes. Oh my God. You remember that story. And I ended up walking home, blacked out. I don't remember. I could sit here for years and tell you I knew where I was going. I remember I had a blue sweatshirt on, like a light blue hoodie, and some other jacket on top.

I'm gonna tell you where I woke up. On top of the Chinese, by the cemetery, my mom's cemetery, on top of the corner before you hear Shitzen Park, there used to be a little bodega there, it's still there. It's been there through generations, now it's an Indian guy. But back then, it was, Now it's an Indian guy. I go into the checkup on my neighborhood.

Then it was a Cuban Chinese guy. On Sundays, he would make pork fried rice and roast pork, yacame, the nice pork with the red circles around it, fucking world class. He owned the building, you know, where Jill Gutman lived. Okay. And Gnipkina, the Jewish girl, I forget what her name was. Gnipkina.

Yeah, she had like a weird Jewish name. What was, what was, what was, and they called her Gnipkina. I remember, man, I haven't thought about that in 40 years. What was her name, like Rachel? Gnipkina? Dog, if you think I just thought about, I just thought of Gnipkop, and that was the fucking name.

I haven't heard that expression in 20 fucking years. Gnip-Gnop. I remember waking up in between the walls. Outside, like it was like 8.15 in the morning, and I woke up like pinned, like there was a little alley, and I was like pinned on that wall With another wall in front of me and I got up. I only had to scratch it. I was survived

I'm like, I can't believe I didn't freeze and I was staying with the benders and I just ran down the hill and went home You just never made it there The quail had different plans Yep, I could see that how many people were you doing quail is like how many people were doing he was a good guy. Yep, I could see that. How many people, were you doing Quaaludes? How many people were doing Quaaludes? He was a good guy. He was one of the good ones. No, no man.

I was part of a different crew. I didn't dabble in any of that. Every time I saw somebody doing Quaaludes, it did not look like they were having a good time. They'd be sitting, you'd be at a party. I was always talking to girls. I was doing whatever. And I'd see one of the guys would be doing Quaaludes. They'd be at a party, I was always talking to girls, I was doing whatever, you know, and I'd see like one of the guys would be doing quite,

they'd be gray, they'd be sitting in the corner, holding a beer, you know, looking like half dead, you know? That's what it looked like. Did you dabble in acidic with us? Yes. So it was always me, you and Loobz, I think. Pretty much, Higgins too. And I remember one night we went to...

Well, he's finally gonna shoot me for saying that. Delete that. The night that we went to Gamiot's party and Folk was the devil, he was dressed like the devil. Yeah. And you and me spread up. And there was all these conversations going on. I'll never forget that.

And every 20, 25 minutes, I look at you and then we both look at Cherpy and we go. And then we look at the conversation we were doing. Because we were having such a great time. Were you at the Times with us at the movie theater by Carvel up in Fairview? Did you go to any of those late night movies with us at midnight?

I went to see, what was it? It was like, we went to see, it was like a Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young movie followed by a Jimi Hendicks movie or something like that We were at yes I also went to see pink floyd alive on palpate. I mean listen you didn't know what was gonna be there I'm not gonna sit here and go well, no you went up there. You took your chances. Some of them were fucking god-awful And some of them were pretty fucking good

Some of them were god-awful like the time crowley Some of them were pretty fucking good. Some of them were god awful. Like the time Crowley, we got stuck outside for the midnight movie and they wouldn't let us in. And the Carvel was right there and there was a half melted double cone with sprinkles and a couple of fucking ants on it. And Crowley picked it up and started to eat it. And the people like, just let him in.

Just let him. Special kind of crazy that guy. Special kind of crazy. We used to go to movies and rage. We used to do so many fucking things as kids that kids don't even think of today. No, it was so much. Everything you did was outside of where, you know, like you didn't stay home. You never home. You know, I go home, sleep and it was it.

And shower, thank God. But yeah, you'd be out all the time, all the time. From nine o'clock in the morning, we'd be out. In the summers, we were gone, gone. I look at my daughter in the summers, I'm like, what? This is it? This is fucking it?

If they don't take you to a camp, I'm dead. This is it. But then again, I don't want to put another kid down the fucking shore. That's scary enough. The shore, the ocean's fucking bad. Not for us. Again, we went down there in a different fucking... Listen, I swam. I'm

Fucking the real deal. I swam the Hudson Yeah, the fucking no Bergen Lake and the Jersey Shore bitch and hack and sack We used to we used to go fishing down on the piers in the Hudson skip school Yes cases of beer down there and we would catch eels and throw them back. But when it got hot You'd want to jump in. But the thing you had to remember is you had to throw a stick or something in to see where the current was.

Because the current would pull you right out. So you had to find part of the current that was going to take you back to the pier. So you could grab a piling and climb back up. But at least the dude is half in the bag. And I like how in your mind, you're like, listen, I'll throw the stick and then I'll know where the... Did anyone ever drown?

No. Hang on. Because you know, you watch the stick. I could watch 18 sticks, I'm definitely going to drown. See, that's, it's that type of... You're not an avianic type of Jew, you know what I'm saying? You're not like a floating type of Jew. No, I don't float at all.

You never studied in Israel with those motherfuckers. They float, they float underwater. You know. Ha ha ha ha! Now let me know again how you got involved in the band business. You always had a band. The first time I got, I saw, there was a band on 51st Street that Johnny

Rago was in when I was like 12 years old, maybe 11, and I remember watching them play on his porch and every time they were playing it was just loaded with girls in front of it so I was like I gotta do that. So I started learning guitar again because I first started when I was seven and I quit. And then I picked it up again at like 11 or 12. And then every once in a while, they'd let me sit in with them on the porch. And from there, I didn't really do much in high school.

But after high school, it was, you know, actually, I hadn't, I really didn't do much little things here and there until I was much older. I was in my 20s, I ran into a buddy of mine on a train, in a path train, and he was like, hey, we're gonna be jamming down at this place, let's, you know, why don't you come down? So I came down, formed a band with them.

And then he went to follow the Dead, the drummer, and Johnny Regal joined. And I brought my cousin in, and that was the cheese bags, talk about a silly ass name. But we were together for probably about 10 years, and then I took a bunch of years off with the kids. And then it's the band I'm in now, to pass masters for almost 20 years.

The lineup has changed, but it's still, you know, same thing. I mean, it's a great band. You guys sound fucking great. Whenever I see you, it's great to see you up there. I try to focus on you and listen to the vocals. Fucking tremendous. It's fun to be up there. I still haven't gotten my tape from Overthrow that you were gonna lay down for me from Chris

Cornell. You sound just like him on that track. You can pull it off with the acoustic. It's just crazy that you got into music. I would have gotten into music, but I would have pawned the guitar. You know what I'm saying? Like I was one of those crazy motherfuckers.

I would have had a show for you, you could lay me some nights. A fucking harp. Do you, cause I was, when I found out you were gonna be on like the last couple of years, I've had like a regular day job too. And I don't see a lot of people, it's more than a hobby for you, but it's something artistic that you like to do.

Do you think it's important outside of family and work to have something like some sort of outlet like that? Absolutely. Absolutely, it keeps me sane. And it's just, you know, I love music. There's nothing like playing with a group of guys and like hitting. Like, I mean, you're just in the pocket.

It's almost as good as sex. There's no other way to describe it. It's almost as good as sex. There's no other way to describe it. It's just, it's one of the best feelings ever. And like, why do you think, I mean, it could just be that's a reason, but I mean, to keep it going for as long as you have, what like, what kept you in it? Just like it just,? It's fun. And it's the guys you're in the band with.

Everybody gets along. We all have real jobs and stuff because you can't live on what we do, not anymore. But it's just fun. I look forward to it. Every week we rehearse. So we get together every week. And then that's not just the shows.

I mean, you know, you work and everybody puts time in, you know, to learn things and to come forward with stuff. So it's just that whole creative process, even though we're not doing original music, as there's nothing better. And you know where you stand. Yeah. You've known where you stood for the last 20 years pretty much Pretty fucking cool. I noticed that too and I spoke to Lee that there's different types of comedy you could do

As long as you're trying as long as you're thinking it's better than fucking sitting there watching jeopardy Yeah, anything beats sitting there watching Jeopardy. Yeah. Anything beats sitting there watching fucking TV. I get depressed some nights. I got nine, like what am I doing with my life? I never watched this much fucking TV in my life. You know, it's sad. A football game, I could watch a quarter.

And then I gotta go. I gotta go. Yeah. I got a lot of shit to do. I can't sit and just watch something anymore. No, I'm gonna go to Florida, and then I gotta go. I gotta do something. Yeah. I got a lot of shit to do. I can't sit and just watch something anymore. No, I can't do it anymore. If I'm sitting watching something, I'm doing a puzzle, or I'm reading a book.

I'm doing three or four different things at the same time. 90% of the time, and it pisses my wife off to no end, God bless her, the TV will be on on and I'll come in with a guitar. You know, she's trying to watch television. She's given up now. She's she's learned to give up now. She goes and she'll watch it in the bedroom and I'll sit in the living room. But yeah, you will never be bored if you if you can play a guitar

or play some type of musical instrument, that's for sure. That keeps my attention. But yeah, you will never be bored if you can play a guitar or play some type of musical instrument, that's for sure. That keeps my attention. Really? Yeah. Because it's like, and I don't think they're sad, but like whenever I tell the people at my day job that like I do comedy, they're like, wow,

like it's very foreign to them. And I see a lot of them and it's great. And so you took time off for your kids, but like it seems like a lot of people have, they have work, they do stuff with their kids, and then they're in bed at like 8.30. And it just, that's why, one of the reasons I love standup,

and I was interested like, if it's similar for you, it's just, it's an outlet. It's like, oh, it's it's it's it's it's a huge stress reliever. Yeah. It's a huge outlet for you. You know, I mean, I don't know what what what comedy is like. You know, I know I enjoy it watching it, but it's it's you know, if it's the same type of feeling it's, you know, if it's the same type of feeling, where, you know, when I'm done at the end of a night, I've put everything I have into playing, I'm tired. I'm sweaty, I'm tired.

It's like, if you look at, you know, I can't compare myself, but it's like, when you look at like a Springsteen show and you see him at the end of the night, you know, you basically can ring him out. Right. You know, and that's him at the end of the night, you know, you basically can ring him out. Right. You know, and that's when I'm done playing at night, just ring me up. I'm finished.

I'm spent. It's confession time. I was in the band in North Bergen. You were? The sixth grade. What did you play? What was the band? I was a singer.

A friend of ours played the bass. Dean Lepre played the guitar. What did you play? What was the band? I was a singer. A friend of ours played the bass, Dean Lepre played the guitar and Ray Cannella played the drums. No kidding. And then my voice went sour like Michael Jackson. And that was the end of the black and white band. You got that nice deep voice after that. Yeah, but Lovito used to let me sing on Fridays.

I like singing. You could have played drums too. I've always liked music, bro. Listen, I've always loved music. My problem is that I'm a fucking antique. So 20% of the stuff I listen to came out the last 10 years maybe if I'm lucky. You know, Tyler Kennedy, whatever, and Slash and those guys. I like the jam that we like by Contraband.

Mm-hmm. Velvet Revolver. Velvet Revolver. I like this Billie Irish shit, believe it or not. My daughter listens to it. It's okay in the car. It's somebody not yelling. And I can hear the lady with the directions.

You know what I'm saying? That's the most important lady I listen to. Make a left turn at 150 feet. Now I gotta do the math in my head, 150 feet. But come on, man. 80% of the shit that's on is the shit I grew up with. Whether it's Spanish, rock, black music, soul music, it really is.

You can't get away from it Yeah, and listen it was such a like I listened to a lot So when I revisit some I haven't listened to it in two years like I put on I was cracking jokes about Marvin Gaye and I put on the really good out the other day and it was fucking you know, yeah Yeah, this motherfucker go off and then I'll put on What else not I was listening to? to hear this motherfucker go off. And then I'll put on, what else now? I was listening to, cause that's why I brought it up to you the other day. God damn it.

I can't remember either. Yes, fragile. Okay. Yes, you know, even that shit. You know, I'm doing shit. I got to listen to something. When I'm doing shit and I'm involved and I'm trying to clean something out,

you got to have some type of fucking music on or you'll lose your mind. That's what my wife got me a foot massage for Christmas. I go, listen, you got me another fucking gadget because my wife loves fucking gadgets. Last week, the gadget she had, I had a low temperature until I got to the doctor. He's like, you're 102. I go, but my mom, my wife taking the fucking gadget. The thing that you roll on your head, they roll, it's 98. I can feel the fucking heat in my eyes, but I'm not gonna argue. My wife, if she don't have a gadget, life's not working for her.

She loves gadgets. I wake up in the morning, there she is in the morning, trembling, because she's sitting on something for her neck. Would you just go to the fucking gym? You know what I'm saying? Like it aggravates the fuck out of me. So for Christmas I wake up, oh, I got you a foot massager for your calves.

I go, I'm gonna use that once. Then I'm gonna sit over there and collect dust. I go, why don't you trade that in for a fucking tremendous. I'm talking about, I wanna to hear it come up through the walls. What do you call those? A Bluetooth? Speaker? Oh, like a... So I'm going to get me a fucking Bose. Bose, yeah. That's what I miss. You want me to tell you what I miss? At 6.30 in the morning, my fucking neighbor on giving that terrorist, me blasting fucking in the evening by Zeppelin and the Jehovah Witnesses hitting on my door.

Oh, please close the door. And my mom passed out for the night before. She can't even hear the fucking music. And I'm like, yeah. You know what I still have in my basement? What? I still have my stereo from college with the big, big speakers.

I got them all like surrounding the four walls, all pointing in. I still have a dual cassette deck, CD and a turntable. You could be a DJ now too, part time. Yeah, DJ. Part time. Two turntables with a mic. Steve, it's been great to have you on.

It's been great being here. It's great to have you as a friend for fucking 50 years. Absolutely, man. Thank you for opening your home up to me and with your other crazy brothers. Yeah, they're nuts. The music and the shed and the fucking stories and the people eating fucking cinder blocks when I walked in there. The fuck is going on?

We had a lot of fun growing up, bro. Yeah, we did, man. And it's why I'm here. That shit stayed with me to just the fact that you were neighbors with fucking Dee Dee. Yeah, he was around the corner. The butcher shop, the longos, fucking hell of a neighborhood.

Yeah. What am we gonna do a walk up that hill for donations? Like we could. Donations, yes. I think it's gonna be best to see how fast we can get up. Dog, I look at that hill and I'm like, I don't know. That's gotta be a three-day. It's a three-day. You're gonna bring a tent? How you gonna take three days to walk up a hill? Bro, don't pick us up at the spot where we passed out the day before. Is it that bad?

It's up there. Yeah. Fuck. Because you forget that we were young. We had fucking HGH, baby leech. You had sperm in your toes. You had sperm coming out of you. Think about it.

Every day I went for a run, I would run up that freaking hill. And you walked it twice a fucking day. You walked it in the morning. either I walked the one by my house And then you had to meet by the bottom of the hill by your house and we'd walk up that hill Sometimes with ammunition with fucking bottles of Gatorade and a bottle of poop off up in that motherfucker You know the same and then you get to the top of the hill you're so hot from walking the hill You're like why we're gonna get on the bus for now. Let's just walk it Yeah, we go to the cemetery cemetery at night, right seeing the devil worship

Yeah shit. I took a fucking shit one night in the cemetery. That's an old grave It was like from 1834. They know becoming back from 1834. I think they might have You actually you should Listen to me. I guess this great. There's like that's like new areas, but if you get lost There's like an area where they have like colonial soldiers back there. It's like you see a guy with a musket. I don't wanna leg and shit Those poor people they had some crazy member those mausoleums the one like like I'm fucking kidding you that's some scary Shit in those tailed 50 first Street. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah all that down there. They'll stab you my pants down And I took a shit

I'll never forget. There was like a little a little you know across and it was broken It was broken. It was shit that whole it was shit. That whole area was nothing. But I take this shit, it's freezing. It's the night Freddie Prince got shot, by the way. Okay. It's fucking freezing. I go to get up to put my pants on and when I, I didn't take my dick out of the pants.

It peed in the fucking pants and now it froze. It was icicles. And I had to walk in my house with these fucking swimming pants on. My mom was like, what's going on here? You have peepee pants? Yeah, like what happened? And I had nothing, mom, nothing.

Go to bed. Go to bed, just go to bed. It was good to have you on, my brother. Ah, it was great to be here, man, thanks. Guys, thank you. I'm sorry about last week, about not showing up, but we were sick, I was sick, Lee was just fucked up, walking around New York

with his scarf on like fucking, It was cold. Like a flying Nazi, you know, he's on the wrong side now. At least I'm always flying, I appreciate it. We love you guys, we'll be back next Tuesday after election day, if anything's left, you know what I'm saying, if there's anything left, we'll get through to you cocks if there's anything left we'll get through to you cocksuckers Tuesday pilot to bombardier one more time Steve

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